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| 00:19.24 | hardwire | meh |
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| 00:23.38 | spldart | OMG the propoganda!!! 8-0 |
| 00:23.57 | romfis__ | hä?? |
| 00:24.40 | spldart | Watching a national geographic channel special... It's full of bs and it's kinda upsetting me... sorry about the OT |
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| 00:25.24 | Guest907eu | hi all, menotumeno is not here right??? |
| 00:25.57 | spldart | Not heard from him recent :-/ |
| 00:28.48 | JeffM2501 | spldart, your not the only one who has goten that message on the fourms |
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| 00:29.37 | blast007 | seems like spldart's IP is on a list |
| 00:29.53 | blast007 | with an event from 2005 :/ |
| 00:30.23 | JeffM2501 | the bastard |
| 00:31.14 | blast007 | apparently open proxies |
| 00:31.29 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:31.44 | JeffM2501 | why do people insist on using open proxies? |
| 00:34.38 | spldart | I got this ip after a power outtage shifted all the RR customers in this area |
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| 00:35.08 | spldart | should I say IP addy |
| 00:36.03 | JeffM2501 | if you use a proxy server you let the terrorists win |
| 00:36.16 | JeffM2501 | are you a terrorist spldart ? |
| 00:36.20 | JeffM2501 | it's ok, you can tell me |
| 00:36.24 | JeffM2501 | I'm your friend |
| 00:36.27 | spldart | Don't get me started |
| 00:36.39 | spldart | you wouldn't like me when I'm started... green... err uh |
| 00:36.45 | spldart | Hi |
| 00:36.48 | JeffM2501 | I'll accept that as an admision of guilt |
| 00:37.09 | spldart | Tal 'Shiar, Obsidian Order anyone? |
| 00:37.34 | JeffM2501 | you'll be home for like an hour right? |
| 00:37.41 | spldart | Me.. that's the plan |
| 00:37.43 | JeffM2501 | the homeland security guys are stuck in traffic |
| 00:37.43 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 00:37.46 | a_meteorite | Let's get the FBI |
| 00:37.57 | spldart | Watch'n propoganda.. I mean tv |
| 00:37.57 | a_meteorite | oh, homeland security is better |
| 00:38.02 | spldart | Meh |
| 00:38.05 | JeffM2501 | that would be there job |
| 00:38.08 | JeffM2501 | not the FBI |
| 00:38.09 | spldart | Don't get me 'up in arms' |
| 00:38.19 | a_meteorite | doesn't the CIA got bigger guns? |
| 00:38.21 | JeffM2501 | NSA at the furthest |
| 00:38.28 | spldart | Doubt it ;) |
| 00:38.39 | JeffM2501 | the CIA's job is to spy on others, not us |
| 00:38.39 | a_meteorite | dangit |
| 00:38.54 | JeffM2501 | FIMA is where all the real power is at |
| 00:38.55 | spldart | Heh.. Don't count on it |
| 00:38.59 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:39.13 | a_meteorite | lol |
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| 01:06.27 | GMMan_ | Huh? What? Open proxie? I think I've got blocked by the BZBB server software for relaying messages or something. |
| 01:06.44 | JeffM2501 | you on an open proxy server? |
| 01:07.29 | BinarySpike | open proxy = web proxy? |
| 01:07.40 | JeffM2501 | that is open to anyone |
| 01:07.43 | GMMan_ | No. I'm on Privoxy. My own IP address with a filter un the middle. |
| 01:08.05 | hardwire | weird |
| 01:08.10 | JeffM2501 | it may have been used for something in the past |
| 01:08.18 | JeffM2501 | we've been having problems with the software |
| 01:08.45 | GMMan | Hmm... Used tor before. On a different computer routed from my router. |
| 01:09.09 | GMMan | No, I didn't even know BZFlag then. |
| 01:09.14 | JeffM2501 | it's probably not something you specificly did |
| 01:09.26 | JeffM2501 | but a problem with the security software |
| 01:09.43 | GMMan | For some weird reason got listed twice for sending SOCKS 4 and 5 relay messages. |
| 01:09.58 | GMMan | It was on that DSBL. |
| 01:10.26 | GMMan | I tried posting.php this morning, it it worked. |
| 01:10.32 | hardwire | if oyu are using privoxy I can see why |
| 01:10.46 | GMMan | Did you disable the security or something, Jeff? |
| 01:10.48 | hardwire | something outside of this channel is BL you |
| 01:10.55 | BinarySpike | BL you? |
| 01:11.03 | JeffM2501 | blacklist |
| 01:11.03 | hardwire | well. outside of bzflag is blacklisting you I bet |
| 01:11.18 | JeffM2501 | the secuity sofdware pulls from a database |
| 01:11.22 | GMMan | I don't think Privoxy is the problem. Tor is probably. |
| 01:11.29 | hardwire | tor is a socks proxy :0 |
| 01:11.50 | JeffM2501 | why do you need tor? or a proxy? |
| 01:11.51 | BinarySpike | 4 bits can only equal up to the number 16 right? |
| 01:11.54 | JeffM2501 | what do you have to hide? |
| 01:11.58 | GMMan | I'm not using tor right now. |
| 01:11.59 | hardwire | but its really hard to blacklist tor unless all the endpoints are mapped.. which is almost impossible |
| 01:12.14 | JeffM2501 | are you using your proxy server now? |
| 01:12.21 | GMMan | I didn't want to hide anything. Just heard it from one of my magazines. |
| 01:12.25 | hardwire | y/n |
| 01:12.52 | blast007 | hardwire: Tor won't work with BZFlag very well, since BZ uses both TCP and UDP, but Tor only does TCP |
| 01:12.55 | GMMan | I'm using my computer through Privoxy from my IP address to the Internet. |
| 01:13.07 | JeffM2501 | have you tried bzbb not using your proxy? |
| 01:13.18 | hardwire | blast007: wild |
| 01:13.27 | blast007 | hardwire: not really |
| 01:14.13 | GMMan | Yup. Same thing. |
| 01:14.13 | blast007 | some games are UDP only |
| 01:14.13 | JeffM2501 | many are |
| 01:14.13 | hardwire | blast007: I thought bzflag had a tcp only option |
| 01:14.13 | BinarySpike | hardwire: it does |
| 01:14.14 | hardwire | I see |
| 01:14.14 | blast007 | many servers kick for TCP only |
| 01:14.14 | GMMan | I think my IP got listed as a block from one of the BL lists on another server. |
| 01:14.14 | JeffM2501 | not realy any more |
| 01:14.18 | hardwire | GMMan: I'm not really doubting that |
| 01:14.25 | BinarySpike | stupid AirPort base station, it runs the internet constantly, takes up bandwidth... D:< |
| 01:14.28 | hardwire | you can check your status on most of the real time blacklists |
| 01:14.28 | GMMan | BZBB's the only site that I've met with this problem. |
| 01:14.40 | JeffM2501 | GMMan, why do you need a privproxy what do you have to hide? |
| 01:14.48 | blast007 | provixy |
| 01:14.50 | blast007 | er |
| 01:14.51 | hardwire | he has CIA issues |
| 01:14.52 | blast007 | privoxy |
| 01:14.55 | GMMan | I don't hide anything. |
| 01:15.01 | JeffM2501 | then why do you use a proxu? |
| 01:15.07 | GMMan | I just use it to block out annoying ads. |
| 01:15.13 | BinarySpike | Get firefox |
| 01:15.15 | hardwire | JeffM2501: privoxy is port80 only |
| 01:15.16 | JeffM2501 | get an add blocker |
| 01:15.19 | GMMan | Plus I do some cache digging. |
| 01:15.26 | JeffM2501 | hardwire, so is the website ;) |
| 01:15.32 | hardwire | hah |
| 01:15.33 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: if only people who had something to hide used a proxy, then everyone using a proxy would have something to hide |
| 01:15.37 | hardwire | I thought we were talking about game play! |
| 01:15.38 | blast007 | privoxy can block ads, restrict animated GIF's to the first frame, and a lot of other cool stuff |
| 01:15.46 | JeffM2501 | no he's talking about the fourms |
| 01:15.50 | hardwire | totally confusing.. bzflag.. ads.. I didn't know which way was up |
| 01:16.01 | blast007 | however, privoxy is commonly used alongside Tor |
| 01:16.04 | hardwire | JeffM2501: these forums are a larger bother than they are worth.. |
| 01:16.13 | hardwire | :] |
| 01:16.18 | Theme97 | Shouldn't /reset display some public alert like /set does? |
| 01:16.19 | JeffM2501 | hardwire, they are the user database |
| 01:16.36 | hardwire | JeffM2501: I see why you are having such interest in security.. |
| 01:16.44 | GMMan | Hold the discussion on me for a while. Going to do homework. |
| 01:16.56 | hardwire | GMMan: what is your IP just so I know |
| 01:16.56 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:17.45 | blast007 | open proxies from 2004.. |
| 01:18.16 | blast007 | assuming his IRC IP address |
| 01:18.32 | BinarySpike | hmm, anybody know of an ICMP checksum generator? |
| 01:18.32 | blast007 | he may be running a local closed proxy server which he uses for Privoxy |
| 01:19.11 | blast007 | BinarySpike: google might |
| 01:19.28 | JeffM2501 | or the linux source |
| 01:20.17 | BinarySpike | Seems like checksums are something in general, I might be able to write my own this this checksum overview :) |
| 01:20.59 | BinarySpike | anybody know the difference between a 1 and 2 complemints machine? |
| 01:21.07 | spldart | I'm fuxored for Jun 2k5 issues. I think something needs to be done about holding an ip addy responsible for stuff over a year later when it's not truly static :mad: |
| 01:35.22 | GMMan | Ahhem! I'm back. |
| 01:36.01 | spldart | [monty python] yay [/monty python] |
| 01:36.28 | GMMan | hardwire: 64.1**.***.** |
| 01:37.01 | GMMan | Actually, 64.201.196.77 |
| 01:38.18 | GMMan | ~cookie |
| 01:38.50 | GMMan | Wow. What was that? |
| 01:39.48 | spldart | ~cookie and a half |
| 01:41.20 | findlay | ~weather PVU |
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| 01:45.52 | spldart | OMG!!! |
| 01:46.15 | delusional | what just hapened? |
| 01:46.15 | spldart | Just me and 4 little peeps cut off on a net split |
| 01:46.15 | spldart | or perhaps a server split |
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| 01:46.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 01:46.16 | delusional | there were 5 of us left |
| 01:46.16 | spldart | IB freenode message |
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| 01:47.33 | spldart | I know I know.. It must have been my open proxy |
| 01:47.33 | spldart | :rolleyes: |
| 01:48.00 | GMMan | What happened to everyone? |
| 01:48.00 | spldart | LOLOL |
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| 01:48.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [+ovv tofu SportChick Manu] by irc.freenode.net |
| 01:48.08 | GMMan | Well, that problem's back. |
| 01:48.09 | spldart | North Korean underground Atomic test |
| 01:48.09 | a_meteorite | that explains things |
| 01:48.09 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:48.22 | a_meteorite | probably took a couple major internet backhauls with them |
| 01:48.23 | GMMan | I guess I should email that address: badbots+nospam@nospam.ioerror.us |
| 01:48.23 | a_meteorite | just waiting for the news to roll in |
| 01:48.32 | findlay | ~welcome our new Korean underground nucular overlords |
| 01:48.34 | ibot | our new Korean underground nucular overlords, Sup yo? |
| 01:48.55 | spldart | lmao |
| 01:49.12 | GMMan | ~welcome There comes annoyance |
| 01:49.13 | ibot | Howdy, There comes annoyance! |
| 01:49.31 | GMMan | Ahhahahah! LMAO! |
| 01:50.01 | findlay | ~dict lamo |
| 01:51.06 | GMMan | Anyone help me with my problem? |
| 01:51.25 | GMMan | Dug up more info. |
| 01:51.47 | hardwire | hmmm |
| 01:52.09 | GMMan | Found that the message that listed my computer as a bad guy was sent by trapper from my IP. |
| 01:52.42 | GMMan | Was sent to listme@listme.dsbl.org |
| 01:52.46 | GMMan | How evil! |
| 01:52.53 | GMMan | ~bomb trapper |
| 01:52.55 | ibot | ACTION drops a humongous exploding nuke on trapper |
| 01:53.06 | hardwire | GMMan: you probably have a virus on your machine |
| 01:53.27 | hardwire | you will self destruct soon |
| 01:53.38 | GMMan | Ehh! That message was sent sometime in October, 2004 |
| 01:54.00 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:54.13 | blast007 | it was an open proxy iirc |
| 01:54.14 | hardwire | JeffM2501: bzbb.bzflag.org/bb/ is the correct bulliton board with the registration issues right? |
| 01:54.19 | spldart | ~nuke spldart's open proxy |
| 01:54.20 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at spldart's open proxy ... B☢☢M! |
| 01:54.26 | blast007 | hardwire: my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 01:54.31 | hardwire | nahr |
| 01:54.45 | JeffM2501 | my.b.o. is the correct URL |
| 01:54.45 | findlay | ibot is such a violent bot |
| 01:54.46 | blast007 | and it doesn't have "registration issues" anymore |
| 01:54.51 | hardwire | they look identical :) |
| 01:55.18 | hardwire | what revision of apache/php/phpbb? |
| 01:55.20 | JeffM2501 | blast007, software still runnin? |
| 01:55.28 | JeffM2501 | bzbb.b.o is a redirect |
| 01:55.37 | GMMan | ~nuke trapper |
| 01:55.38 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at trapper ... B☢☢M! |
| 01:55.39 | blast007 | JeffM2501: eh, I guess |
| 01:55.48 | blast007 | I don't know anything about it |
| 01:55.55 | hardwire | AHH.. not unicode! |
| 01:56.09 | blast007 | or was that supposed to be directed to brlcad? :) |
| 01:56.32 | JeffM2501 | anyone :) |
| 01:56.35 | GMMan | Talking about virus on my PC... I scanned recently and had no problem. |
| 01:56.44 | JeffM2501 | what ever he installed recently is nailing a lot of people |
| 01:56.50 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:57.00 | GMMan | A rootkit in 2004? Maybe... |
| 01:57.14 | blast007 | GMMan: it probably wan't even you |
| 01:57.26 | hardwire | contest it |
| 01:57.41 | GMMan | I know. Reading some stuff on DSBL right now. |
| 02:00.48 | GMMan | I still can't believe that I'm blocked from posting BZBB. Any temprary solutions? |
| 02:01.02 | a_meteorite | Morph into a ninja! |
| 02:01.19 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Fake your IP. |
| 02:01.27 | a_meteorite | That'll work. |
| 02:01.40 | blast007 | PuMpErNiCkLe: that would involve using an open proxy, which would be blocked anyway ;) |
| 02:01.58 | a_meteorite | Hijack a wireless connection (that's legal). |
| 02:02.00 | a_meteorite | ;) |
| 02:02.01 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Or using WiFi. |
| 02:02.08 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:02.13 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ...what he said. |
| 02:06.15 | spldart | Hrm.. time to break out my waveguide ant. |
| 02:06.55 | hardwire | JeffM2501: one very very very very simple way of killing off quite a few bots for a good long time is to send the image as a java applet that is dynamically compiled with 16 arrays of randomized x,y pairs representing shade as it draws the image from the array. |
| 02:07.03 | hardwire | if you could randomize the offset in the binary that might get you somewhere |
| 02:07.17 | GMMan | I hope that I could actually drop my IP address. It always come back to me. |
| 02:07.48 | JeffM2501 | we need to start by upgrading to the current phpbb, then see were we are from there |
| 02:07.50 | hardwire | sorry.. the human verification image.. I have no idea what the nickname is for those things |
| 02:07.59 | JeffM2501 | capatcha |
| 02:08.04 | JeffM2501 | curent phpbb has em |
| 02:08.05 | hardwire | catchy |
| 02:08.14 | hardwire | yeh.. but you are telling me machines are reading the images |
| 02:08.26 | GMMan | Hmm... got listed by 5 trustable blackklist. How come?! |
| 02:08.36 | blast007 | hardwire: we aren't running a fully upgraded forum |
| 02:08.37 | JeffM2501 | some are, some arnt |
| 02:08.45 | JeffM2501 | we need to at least upgrade |
| 02:08.51 | blast007 | so we don't have the fancy image check thingy |
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| 02:10.10 | Z_Man | haha |
| 02:11.38 | Z_Man | woops |
| 02:11.40 | *** part/#bzflag Z_Man (n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 02:17.40 | GMMan | Ahchoo! |
| 02:18.01 | GMMan | ~help |
| 02:21.27 | GMMan | Hey, check out ~wtf |
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| 02:36.13 | spldart | join #bzchat |
| 02:36.24 | spldart | ooooopsy |
| 02:36.50 | spldart | Left my / in my server box |
| 02:37.03 | spldart | Don't you hate it when that happens? |
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| 02:48.32 | laserball2 | A-D? |
| 02:49.34 | laserball2 | hi |
| 02:49.53 | laserball2 | m |
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| 03:01.45 | AAA_awright | ~help |
| 03:15.38 | delusional | laserball2, what? |
| 03:16.10 | delusional | guess i'm the only one who ever talked to him |
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| 03:51.45 | brlcad | JeffM2501: the error page that people are given back actually includes a direct link to a page that explains exactly why they were banned |
| 03:52.08 | brlcad | including the actual spam e-mails that their IP was caught sending, in the case of spammers |
| 03:52.54 | brlcad | i'm actually a bit torn.. it's correctly detecting a bad system .. there just happen to be a lot of infested player's machines |
| 03:53.34 | brlcad | e.g. here's the reason why that other person was blocked: http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26426 |
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| 04:11.37 | shorty114 | orchid, omg we have 15 members in bzflag group! |
| 04:11.50 | shorty114 | unfortunately, we need *more than* 15 :\ |
| 04:16.22 | purple_cow | group? |
| 04:22.39 | shorty114 | last.fm |
| 04:22.44 | shorty114 | http://www.last.fm/group/bzflag |
| 04:22.47 | codergeek42 | it has a group?! |
| 04:23.22 | shorty114 | heh |
| 04:23.41 | codergeek42 | YAY! ^_^ |
| 05:03.09 | delusional | tokimi has a new pic, couldnt see the face in the last one |
| 05:07.30 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, that may be but it's such a huge list of people for just a silly little game |
| 05:07.38 | JeffM2501 | with no warning whatsoever |
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| 07:25.31 | ibunny | manu manu |
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| 07:58.16 | tarco | heloo |
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| 07:58.41 | tarco | hello |
| 07:58.47 | daniel_jackson | hey |
| 07:59.01 | tarco | just a min whilr i get set up |
| 07:59.12 | daniel_jackson | ok did you login here? |
| 07:59.14 | tarco | and i'll as have to cook tea as i am home alone |
| 07:59.25 | daniel_jackson | tea? |
| 07:59.43 | tarco | dinner i have to register |
| 07:59.44 | daniel_jackson | isn't it hot there right now |
| 07:59.51 | tarco | light tea |
| 08:00.22 | daniel_jackson | here for private chat |
| 08:00.25 | tarco | whats that thing i have to do |
| 08:00.49 | daniel_jackson | "/msg NickServ identify <password> |
| 08:00.53 | daniel_jackson | " |
| 08:01.32 | tarco | ok |
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| 09:46.12 | tarco | hi dj |
| 09:46.20 | daniel_jackson | hey |
| 09:46.42 | daniel_jackson | did you login? |
| 09:46.51 | tarco | not sure |
| 09:47.29 | daniel_jackson | "/msg NickServ identify ,password>" |
| 09:47.31 | daniel_jackson | that comma is a typo |
| 09:47.39 | tarco | ok |
| 09:47.41 | tarco | sdone |
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| 10:10.55 | LePoulpe303 | Hi bzworld ! |
| 11:10.52 | Manu | hola brlcad :) |
| 11:28.55 | spldart | hrm |
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| 11:31.01 | ibunny | manu manu |
| 11:39.05 | spldart | did bzbb just die? before I couldn't post cuz of the security now I can't even get it to respond |
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| 11:41.53 | spldart | :( |
| 11:45.24 | spldart | ~dns my.bzflag.org |
| 11:59.49 | blast007 | brlcad: the problem with that system is that some of the incidents occured on dynamic IPs, and were from a year or two ago |
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| 12:19.58 | Skeeve | Moin! |
| 12:22.46 | Skeeve | ~translate de en klobuerste |
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| 16:21.21 | Steve14 | good evening |
| 16:21.55 | Erroneous | moin moin |
| 16:22.14 | PuMpErNiCkLe | afternoon |
| 16:22.22 | Steve14 | is doch gar nich morgen xD |
| 16:22.28 | Erroneous | ~ugt |
| 16:22.34 | ibot | i guess ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 16:22.37 | findlay | ~date |
| 16:22.39 | ibot | It is now 2006.10.19 16:22:39 GMT |
| 16:23.15 | spldart | So... IRC is eternally the cyber land of the rising sun |
| 16:29.00 | findlay | ibot: irc is also eternally the cyber land of the rising sun |
| 16:29.02 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 16:36.15 | spldart | ibot ibot... Should I turn left here? |
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| 16:50.09 | hardwire | *yawn* |
| 16:50.09 | hardwire | I need coffee |
| 16:50.10 | spldart | I'm taking no doze by the handfull here 8-0 |
| 16:50.10 | spldart | Washing it down with coke |
| 17:00.07 | hardwire | so we have a supply cabinet at work |
| 17:00.11 | hardwire | and I burn a lot of cd's |
| 17:00.16 | hardwire | every day.. my sharpie is gone |
| 17:00.24 | hardwire | so every time I burn a cd.. I have to get another one |
| 17:00.29 | hardwire | I have no idea where my sharpies are going |
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| 17:11.34 | sc-phone | jeffm2501: got time for a stupid windows question? |
| 17:11.54 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 17:12.03 | sc-phone | i'm at work |
| 17:12.32 | sc-phone | it's my work computer... I was having problems printing & control panel was freezing |
| 17:12.38 | sc-phone | so I decided to reboot |
| 17:13.02 | sc-phone | when I shut down it said it was installiing some windows updates |
| 17:13.28 | sc-phone | it has been installing update 2 of 6 for about 10-15 minutes |
| 17:13.34 | sc-phone | makes me think it is crashed |
| 17:14.19 | sc-phone | but it keeps flashing "do not turn off or unplug your computer" |
| 17:14.20 | sc-phone | i'm in a time crunch... :-/ |
| 17:14.46 | sc-phone | do u think I could safely/should force a hard boot? |
| 17:15.04 | hardwire | it hasn't crashed |
| 17:15.16 | hardwire | do not turn it off |
| 17:15.34 | sc-phone | it really takes THAT long to install an update?! |
| 17:15.38 | hardwire | yes |
| 17:15.42 | hardwire | esp if that update is .net 2.0 |
| 17:15.47 | sc-phone | grrrrrrrrr |
| 17:15.54 | hardwire | sorry sportyspice. |
| 17:16.08 | sc-phone | meanwhile I sit here twiddling my thumbs :( |
| 17:16.19 | hardwire | I have a domain here that is part of a WAN domain. |
| 17:16.44 | hardwire | they push global policies every once in a while. So I learned how to use them for my part of the domain only and installed .net 2.0 on every machine here. |
| 17:16.49 | hardwire | yeh |
| 17:16.51 | hardwire | everybody hated me |
| 17:17.08 | hardwire | so I got it 30x what you have right now |
| 17:17.35 | sc-phone | how long is it going to take |
| 17:17.54 | sc-phone | i've got 2 days woth of work to do in 6 hours :( |
| 17:18.17 | hardwire | you may want to assume you have 2 days of work to finish in 5 hours |
| 17:18.47 | hardwire | is this work related.. just concider this an SOP and take a coffee break |
| 17:18.57 | hardwire | go take your significant other out to lunch for a while |
| 17:18.59 | hardwire | :) |
| 17:19.18 | sc-phone | I don't work that way |
| 17:19.19 | hardwire | sc-phone: seriously.. i would get worried at around 45 minutes |
| 17:19.31 | sc-phone | and hubby is in Australia :( |
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| 17:19.43 | hardwire | it took 20 minutes for a p4 3.0 ghz do to a batch of updates once |
| 17:20.47 | sc-phone | not encouraging :( |
| 17:21.49 | hardwire | youw ant some Eiffel 65 while you wait? |
| 17:21.55 | hardwire | man this artist is weird |
| 17:22.31 | sc-phone | eiffel 65? what's that |
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| 17:24.03 | ibunny | hi |
| 17:26.03 | hardwire | how cute |
| 17:26.09 | hardwire | sc-phone: bad technoish artist |
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| 17:26.57 | sc-phone | hw: now way I could listen anyway..."sc-phone" means I'm connected using a cell phone |
| 17:29.46 | sc-phone | i'm very tempted to take this stuff home & work on it..... |
| 17:31.01 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, they can take a while |
| 17:31.32 | JeffM2501 | if it realy is installing updates, and you shut it down, it would REALY screw it up |
| 17:31.51 | Erroneous | she's not here any more JeffM2501 |
| 17:31.54 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:31.55 | JeffM2501 | sorry |
| 17:32.00 | JeffM2501 | she was on the phone |
| 17:32.03 | Erroneous | yup |
| 17:32.08 | Erroneous | could call her I guess :) |
| 17:32.09 | JeffM2501 | I was typing up a huge e-mail about IJK paths |
| 17:32.34 | Erroneous | sounds like fun |
| 17:32.38 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:33.11 | SportChick | i lost connection w the phone...still on the phone but at least this way i don't miss anything |
| 17:33.17 | JeffM2501 | I got to use the word kinematics :) |
| 17:33.30 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, is the hard drive light flashing? |
| 17:33.37 | JeffM2501 | some updates can take a long while |
| 17:33.43 | SportChick | no |
| 17:33.48 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 17:33.57 | SportChick | it's got a single steady light |
| 17:34.04 | SportChick | but no flashing |
| 17:34.06 | JeffM2501 | for the HD? |
| 17:34.25 | SportChick | i have no idea |
| 17:34.38 | SportChick | this is my work comp |
| 17:34.48 | JeffM2501 | I'd leave it on for at least an hour or so |
| 17:34.52 | SportChick | two light windows |
| 17:35.01 | JeffM2501 | if it realy is doing an update, turning it of could be super bad |
| 17:35.06 | JeffM2501 | like reinstall windows bad |
| 17:35.14 | SportChick | the steady one has the power symbol by it |
| 17:35.24 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 17:35.28 | JeffM2501 | well give it some time |
| 17:35.32 | SportChick | the other on is dark & has a battery symbol |
| 17:35.50 | JeffM2501 | batery? |
| 17:35.53 | JeffM2501 | it a laptop? |
| 17:36.06 | JeffM2501 | or does it look like a cylinder? |
| 17:36.17 | SportChick | cylinder |
| 17:36.25 | SportChick | not a lappy |
| 17:36.26 | JeffM2501 | that's the HD light :) |
| 17:36.33 | SportChick | oh |
| 17:36.37 | SportChick | it's off |
| 17:36.50 | JeffM2501 | well let it go for a while |
| 17:36.55 | SportChick | not lit at all |
| 17:36.56 | JeffM2501 | some updates don't hit the drive for a while |
| 17:37.07 | JeffM2501 | if it's not done in like an hour, kill it and pray |
| 17:38.12 | SportChick | it's been going for about 40 minutes so far |
| 17:38.33 | SportChick | & hasn't budged off the update 2 of 6 |
| 17:39.38 | Erroneous | probably a big one |
| 17:41.32 | Erroneous | for future reference, you do know you can restart without applying updates right? |
| 17:44.13 | SportChick | i didn't have any idea there were updates TO install |
| 17:44.39 | hardwire | behold.. the gotcha! |
| 17:45.40 | hardwire | your computer just elbowed you around and opted to install the updates itself since you are so pokey. |
| 17:45.51 | hardwire | SportChick: so are you on a domain where you work? |
| 17:46.32 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, it's a common setting for company machines to do it automaticly |
| 17:46.39 | JeffM2501 | to make sure they get done |
| 17:46.54 | JeffM2501 | you can change the setting if you wish ( and you have permisions to do so ) |
| 17:46.59 | Erroneous | SportChick: when you tell it to restart it explicitly says "Restart (and apply updates)" if there are updates to apply |
| 17:47.18 | Erroneous | or on the silly graphical shutdown screen hit has a little four-color shield over the restart button |
| 17:47.35 | JeffM2501 | tho it's a good I dea to do them |
| 17:47.45 | SportChick | i don't mind doing them generally |
| 17:47.55 | SportChick | but the timing here is atrocious |
| 17:47.59 | JeffM2501 | it sounds like the computer has other problems |
| 17:48.09 | Erroneous | that is why I was suggesting you should have skipped it when you restarted :) |
| 17:48.10 | JeffM2501 | and that may be impacting the update |
| 17:48.16 | SportChick | this is my first time in the office in 2 weeks |
| 17:48.28 | JeffM2501 | hence why a lot of updates are probably pending ;) |
| 17:48.29 | Erroneous | ah, so it might already be nicely infected ;) |
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| 17:52.23 | laserball3 | thumper |
| 17:53.24 | SportChick | 50 minutes & the hd light is still dark |
| 17:53.32 | JeffM2501 | up to you |
| 17:53.50 | JeffM2501 | if the drive light is off, then it probablywon't do any real damage to the drive |
| 17:54.07 | JeffM2501 | the question will be is, if it was in the middle of an update and you have a pooched OS now |
| 17:54.11 | Erroneous | course it still might not boot :) |
| 17:54.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:54.33 | blast007 | it was probably a WGA update ;) |
| 17:54.36 | JeffM2501 | if it hadn't finished puting all the right files in the right places, it could be iffy |
| 17:54.45 | JeffM2501 | you have the XP CD to do a repair right? |
| 17:54.51 | SportChick | nope |
| 17:55.01 | JeffM2501 | you may want to go find that |
| 17:55.09 | SportChick | & my computer tech is mia |
| 17:55.10 | Erroneous | heh, repair and then have to update for hours on end :) |
| 17:55.27 | JeffM2501 | well like I say, it's up to you |
| 17:55.41 | hardwire | SportChick: you should just run windows in a vmware that snapshots every night :) |
| 17:55.53 | hardwire | then just.. rewind |
| 17:56.05 | JeffM2501 | but that won't fix your imediate problem |
| 17:56.06 | SportChick | hw: it's my work computer |
| 17:56.13 | SportChick | that is not my option |
| 17:56.19 | JeffM2501 | and force your company to pick a difrent OS |
| 17:56.21 | hardwire | JeffM2501: no.. it won't fix her issues atm |
| 17:56.38 | hardwire | we have a lot of computers that die around here because "hey I don't wanna wait for this" *click* |
| 17:56.40 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, hopefully it was at the end of one update, then moving to the next |
| 17:56.41 | SportChick | i hardbooted & it's coming up fine |
| 17:56.48 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 17:57.00 | blast007 | SportChick: that's what it WANTS you to think! |
| 17:57.07 | JeffM2501 | you may want to go manualy finish the updates |
| 17:57.09 | Erroneous | then, in the words of yoda, lucky you were |
| 17:57.21 | hardwire | dodged the bullet |
| 17:57.39 | hardwire | I should work |
| 17:58.12 | SportChick | right now, I just want to get my work done |
| 17:58.24 | SportChick | I'll make Mike work on getting it to update properly while I'm not here |
| 17:59.35 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, work is overrated |
| 18:00.47 | SportChick | JeffM2501: perhaps, but since I'm here only today, I've GOT to get ti done |
| 18:01.05 | JeffM2501 | just write in "I am a fish" and go home |
| 18:01.13 | JeffM2501 | that way you'll see if anyone reads what you write ;) |
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| 18:02.48 | JeffM2501 | noone ever gets my red dwarf refrences |
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| 18:03.34 | SportChick | well, something's definitely wrong - even after rebooting, I still can't print |
| 18:03.35 | hardwire | JeffM2501: I don't get it.. but I appreciate the humor. |
| 18:03.37 | hardwire | :) |
| 18:03.53 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, you may want to uninstall and reinstall your print drivers |
| 18:03.59 | Thumper_ | dwarf's are red? |
| 18:04.03 | hardwire | SportChick: are you on a domain? if so rdesktop to mikes computer as you and hijack his machine while you work |
| 18:04.15 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: I have heard it before. something about a test. |
| 18:04.22 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 18:04.25 | Erroneous | just wondering if you had used that method previously :) |
| 18:04.26 | SportChick | hw: i have no idea how to do that, nor would I try |
| 18:04.37 | JeffM2501 | so he could be something other then chicken soup technicial second class |
| 18:04.51 | hardwire | SportChick: yer no fun |
| 18:04.52 | CBG | JeffM2501: red dwarf rocks |
| 18:04.58 | CBG | too bad I never get to see it. :/ |
| 18:05.00 | Erroneous | no instances of "I am a fish" in gc :) |
| 18:05.04 | CBG | It should really be on TV so much more. |
| 18:05.09 | hardwire | SportChick: I have people do that here quite often when their machines are freaking out |
| 18:05.12 | SportChick | well, the problem isn't limited to outlook |
| 18:05.17 | hardwire | and they can't wait in line |
| 18:05.18 | hardwire | hah |
| 18:05.21 | SportChick | I can't print from any program |
| 18:05.31 | JeffM2501 | uninstall then reinstall the drives |
| 18:05.39 | CBG | Restarted printer? |
| 18:05.43 | hardwire | drivers! |
| 18:05.45 | Thumper_ | SportChick: is the printer on? |
| 18:05.56 | CBG | If it's a shared printer, can others print on it? |
| 18:06.10 | hardwire | now thats diagnostic smartyness |
| 18:06.34 | CBG | I am a true smartie. |
| 18:06.38 | hardwire | SportChick: I still cringe when I do a dist-upgrade in linux and reboot.. |
| 18:06.46 | CBG | Not one of those M&M things... ;) |
| 18:06.46 | hardwire | so you aren't alone |
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| 18:07.36 | hardwire | poor SportChick.. she just wanted to ask one guy.. one thing.. |
| 18:07.43 | CBG | :( |
| 18:07.58 | hardwire | and you bunch of loudmouthes had to spoil her mood |
| 18:08.07 | spldart | yeesh |
| 18:08.10 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:08.14 | hardwire | ok.. I should work too |
| 18:08.34 | hardwire | ibook w/ bad HDD .. 56 steps to replace HDD |
| 18:08.43 | spldart | I've completed two repairs in this batch of conversation |
| 18:10.08 | hardwire | Erroneous: http://www.csupomona.edu/~jelerma/springfield/ |
| 18:10.11 | hardwire | does that cheer you up? |
| 18:10.32 | Erroneous | nope |
| 18:11.09 | hardwire | it cheers me up |
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| 18:12.52 | hardwire | it should be clean my office day |
| 18:13.00 | hardwire | and.. I should have help |
| 18:13.02 | hardwire | dangit |
| 18:16.08 | hardwire | *hiya!* I fixed the stapler.. |
| 18:16.11 | hardwire | beat that spldart |
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| 18:35.22 | spldart | Saw that this morning Erroneous |
| 18:35.42 | spldart | That stapler made by Sony or Toshiba hardwire? |
| 18:36.43 | hardwire | no.. its made by corporate express.. |
| 18:36.48 | hardwire | a very hard to repair stapler |
| 18:36.54 | hardwire | i had to use tweezers |
| 18:37.22 | spldart | Hold the phone! Tweezers?!?! OMG |
| 18:37.25 | spldart | LOLOL |
| 18:37.32 | hardwire | :) |
| 18:38.01 | hardwire | you seemed to think you were the cats pajamas since you fixed a few things.. I just wanted you to know you aren't the only one in those PJ's |
| 18:39.04 | blast007 | the cat's pajamas would be full of hair |
| 18:39.07 | hardwire | so I have this sonly laptop external PSU, and by looking at it the only assumption I can make is that this guy either tried to jumprope with it.. or decided to hang upside down from a ceiling fan holding the laptop.. |
| 18:39.17 | spldart | umm |
| 18:39.21 | hardwire | cause this cord is totally curled up |
| 18:39.29 | spldart | Your in my PJ's?!?! |
| 18:39.31 | hardwire | but.. uniformly |
| 18:39.32 | spldart | Umm |
| 18:39.37 | spldart | Do I know you that well? |
| 18:39.39 | spldart | ;) |
| 18:39.53 | blast007 | spldart: I was gonna make that joke too, but figured you would awant to ;) |
| 18:39.56 | blast007 | want* |
| 18:39.57 | hardwire | spldart: quit playing games with my head. |
| 18:40.07 | spldart | heh |
| 18:40.12 | blast007 | hardwire: pacman? |
| 18:40.24 | hardwire | man I really want a world weapon pacman |
| 18:40.49 | hardwire | every time you touch a ghost you drop your flag and inherit phantom zone |
| 18:41.04 | hardwire | spoooky |
| 18:41.25 | hardwire | I'm trying to get it.. but all I am tuning into is mario i |
| 18:41.52 | blast007 | spldart: crud, now I have Mario Brother 3 start music in my head |
| 18:42.02 | spldart | yay |
| 18:42.26 | hardwire | I imagine thos cord could have been made into this curly mess if he decided to spin the laptop while plugged in.. like a pizza crust |
| 18:42.32 | hardwire | those pizza guys can get pretty stunty |
| 18:58.12 | tannerld | how can I download bzflag source via the command line? (/me can't find a topic on it) |
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| 19:00.29 | CBG | ~bz20cvs |
| 19:00.37 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 19:00.58 | tannerld | hmm |
| 19:01.01 | tannerld | life is too obvious |
| 19:01.02 | tannerld | thanks :P |
| 19:01.19 | Gina | which it was:-) |
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| 19:01.26 | Gina | wish |
| 19:01.38 | tannerld | :P |
| 19:02.28 | Gina | it's assembler:-) |
| 19:03.43 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:05.33 | hardwire | I need a micro electric screwdriver with a micro hammer |
| 19:05.42 | hardwire | this lappy's screw ain't coming lose like it needs too |
| 19:06.10 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:06.15 | tannerld | sonice screwdriver? :P |
| 19:06.17 | tannerld | *sonic |
| 19:06.21 | hardwire | that would rule |
| 19:06.27 | hardwire | but I might screw over the processor its over |
| 19:06.35 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:09.16 | hardwire | there are little magnets all over this ibook |
| 19:09.17 | hardwire | its so weird |
| 19:09.30 | hardwire | why is there a magnet near the cdrom/battery? |
| 19:09.45 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:09.58 | tannerld | hold the screws in? :D |
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| 19:12.36 | hardwire | yeh:0 |
| 19:12.42 | hardwire | crapola |
| 19:12.58 | hardwire | thats no fun |
| 19:13.02 | hardwire | it looks pretty important |
| 19:13.11 | hardwire | OH WELL! |
| 19:13.16 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:13.37 | tannerld | its always fun when you re/put something together and then find extra parts afterwards. :D |
| 19:15.25 | findlay | it just means that you didn't need those parts and with recursive dis/re-assembly you ultimately get to a point where all the cruft had been filtered out |
| 19:16.05 | findlay | and then your car falls apart on the highway and you're left sitting in the road amongst a pile of car parts |
| 19:16.25 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:16.33 | tannerld | with the steering wheel still in your hands? :d |
| 19:16.45 | findlay | yeah |
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| 19:16.53 | Wings | hi |
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| 19:17.11 | Wings | hi |
| 19:17.20 | tannerld | hi |
| 19:17.23 | Wings | hi pommes |
| 19:17.39 | Wings | play you bzflag`? |
| 19:17.53 | *** part/#bzflag Wings (n=3e8fa5ca@vs189182.vserver.de) |
| 19:20.30 | tannerld | hmm |
| 19:20.45 | tannerld | how does one install bzflag from the cvs? ./configure isn't wokring |
| 19:20.59 | blast007 | ./autogen.sh |
| 19:21.04 | blast007 | do that first |
| 19:21.16 | blast007 | then the regular tarball style stuff |
| 19:21.32 | blast007 | the tar's come pre-autogen'ed ;) |
| 19:21.55 | tannerld | hmm |
| 19:21.59 | tannerld | GNU Autoconf is missing |
| 19:22.20 | hardwire | wooo.. beers all around the screw came loose finally! |
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| 19:29.48 | hardwire | they should have a rim around chairs to catch screws when they fall |
| 19:29.50 | hardwire | or a big magnet |
| 19:30.06 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:31.59 | hardwire | I think if everybody who had hate toward apple for placing the HDD in an ibook g4 in a totally pain in the butt spot were able to throw a peice of dust at the developer.. then that developer would be stoned to death |
| 19:38.09 | JeffM2501 | I don't think they sell THAT many macs ;) |
| 19:39.17 | PrezKennedy | yeah... 5 pieces of dust... 3 of which missed cuz we're talking mac people here... ;) |
| 19:48.35 | deprecated | In the BZ score display, what is the third column (with the square brackets)? |
| 19:48.45 | CBG | teamkills iirc |
| 19:48.46 | Erroneous | teamkills, iirc |
| 19:48.51 | Erroneous | must be :) |
| 19:48.53 | CBG | snap, Erroneous |
| 19:49.03 | deprecated | Thanks |
| 19:49.07 | Erroneous | hey, I had to type a comma :P |
| 19:49.38 | CBG | punctuation doesn't count. |
| 19:49.49 | blast007 | heh |
| 19:51.38 | JeffM2501 | Erroneous, how much of your dialog stuff is done? |
| 19:51.38 | Erroneous | umm...some |
| 19:51.38 | Erroneous | I don't remember |
| 19:51.45 | JeffM2501 | to the point where it can draw something? |
| 19:52.06 | Erroneous | yeah...but I didn't do the net code yet, so I had no way to test it |
| 19:52.23 | JeffM2501 | you want to commit it? I can do net |
| 19:52.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/chathistory/chathistory.cpp: ws |
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| 19:53.47 | hardwire | the magnet starts/stops sleep mode |
| 19:54.15 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:54.32 | Erroneous | can't commit it from here |
| 19:54.36 | JeffM2501 | oh I know |
| 19:54.37 | Erroneous | it's all on my home machine |
| 19:54.42 | JeffM2501 | I'm just saying whenever |
| 19:55.01 | Erroneous | I don't like committing untested stuff either :) |
| 19:55.03 | Erroneous | but sure |
| 19:55.20 | JeffM2501 | you want to hook up the net stuff? or got a lot on your plate? |
| 19:55.31 | Erroneous | I can hook it up |
| 19:55.45 | JeffM2501 | oko |
| 19:56.27 | Erroneous | is there a cricket in here? |
| 19:56.30 | Erroneous | or is it just me? |
| 19:56.36 | JeffM2501 | there are many |
| 19:56.44 | JeffM2501 | they escape from Chris's office |
| 19:56.47 | Erroneous | heh |
| 19:57.31 | CBG | heh |
| 19:59.06 | JeffM2501 | they are the lucky ones |
| 20:01.49 | Erroneous | indeed |
| 20:02.15 | tannerld | checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp |
| 20:02.15 | tannerld | configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 20:02.16 | tannerld | :\ |
| 20:02.31 | blast007 | tannerld: ./straightjacket |
| 20:02.35 | blast007 | ;) |
| 20:02.40 | tannerld | hmm? |
| 20:02.41 | Erroneous | tannerld: os and compiler? |
| 20:02.52 | tannerld | ubuntu and gcc (I think) |
| 20:02.56 | blast007 | they may not have all the dev tools |
| 20:03.03 | Erroneous | then you have an insane install :) |
| 20:03.08 | blast007 | they didn't have autoconf |
| 20:03.22 | Erroneous | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.27 | tannerld | worked on my main computer :\ |
| 20:03.36 | Erroneous | should be in some bin |
| 20:03.43 | JeffM2501 | ubuntu by default dosn't install the C++ compiler |
| 20:03.57 | tannerld | i installed gcc |
| 20:03.58 | JeffM2501 | the error is the generic error |
| 20:04.01 | JeffM2501 | that's not enough |
| 20:04.04 | JeffM2501 | g++ |
| 20:05.25 | tannerld | thanks jeff |
| 20:05.32 | tannerld | that got rid of the error |
| 20:05.59 | JeffM2501 | make sure you do sdl dev, curl3 dev, and the other packages |
| 20:06.34 | tannerld | I think I got them. |
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| 20:38.11 | SportChick | apparently my print problems are network wide, not specific to me :-/ |
| 20:38.38 | Erroneous | doesn't that make you feel better? :) |
| 20:41.50 | spldart | HEHE |
| 20:43.13 | blast007 | SportChick: or maybe your Windows updates crashed the printer |
| 20:43.29 | L4m3r | my print problems are apparently common to people of the male persuasion |
| 20:43.34 | SportChick | blast007: it's every printer on the network, so I doubt that |
| 20:44.00 | L4m3r | Fortunately there are people with worse chicken-scratch than me :) |
| 20:46.42 | L4m3r | heh |
| 20:47.48 | Erroneous | it just sort of came naturally ;) |
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| 21:31.26 | Erroneous | when you join a game from the commandline without specifying a username and password, does it automatically use the ones saved in your config file? |
| 21:31.37 | Erroneous | I'd test it, but am at work |
| 21:34.05 | JeffM2501 | test it!!!! |
| 21:34.22 | JeffM2501 | want me to go run interferance with isy? |
| 21:35.23 | Erroneous | heh |
| 21:35.25 | Erroneous | naw |
| 21:36.21 | brlcad | JeffM2501: heh, as much fun as it was, I disabled the blacklist check |
| 21:36.44 | brlcad | it's still doing a slew of other checks, just not the ones that queried spamhaus and company for blacklisted IP addrs |
| 21:37.11 | brlcad | so hopefully the infested masses can continue browsing |
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| 21:41.30 | JeffM2501 | remember our target player :) |
| 21:41.37 | JeffM2501 | somone to cheap to buy real windows games |
| 21:43.28 | blast007 | brlcad: the two it found were not infected |
| 21:43.37 | blast007 | they just got an IP that had been at one time |
| 21:43.42 | hardwire | JeffM2501: good point |
| 21:43.44 | blast007 | they're dynamic |
| 21:43.55 | hardwire | so having a 450 triangle model.. or even 1600.. probably not a great idea |
| 21:44.23 | JeffM2501 | probably not, not on modern hardware |
| 21:44.35 | hardwire | 16m triangles all moving around |
| 21:44.39 | hardwire | something to that degree |
| 21:45.18 | JeffM2501 | 1600 is a little high for a modern game, but not horible |
| 21:45.22 | JeffM2501 | 450 would be fine |
| 21:45.32 | hardwire | the models you had were so.. tiny |
| 21:45.32 | JeffM2501 | 1000 is probably a decent target point |
| 21:45.35 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:45.42 | hardwire | like.. mesagl tiny |
| 21:45.46 | JeffM2501 | they were made for the days of software rendering |
| 21:45.49 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 21:45.52 | Erroneous | we run on mesa, hardwire :) |
| 21:46.02 | hardwire | Erroneous: butwhy! |
| 21:46.07 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:46.07 | JeffM2501 | when they were made hardware GL was the realm of SGIs and tha'ts about it |
| 21:46.24 | JeffM2501 | remember it's a 14 year old game |
| 21:46.55 | hardwire | thats like 5 years in geek years |
| 21:47.03 | JeffM2501 | more like 30 |
| 21:47.11 | hardwire | depends on your involvement :) |
| 21:47.35 | JeffM2501 | pff I think games from last year look outdated :) |
| 21:49.44 | JeffM2501 | hmm it's kinda cool to hold a real world book for your programing language. |
| 21:51.32 | findlay | probably for sentimental reasons |
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| 22:07.07 | hardwire | findlay: I enjoy it too |
| 22:07.09 | hardwire | but its creepy |
| 22:08.22 | findlay | heh |
| 22:09.08 | findlay | rife with material for bzflag nightmares |
| 22:11.59 | hardwire | hmm |
| 22:12.15 | hardwire | I shouldn't have flamed microsoft about their IE7.0 announcement they mailed to everybody so they could be prepared |
| 22:12.30 | hardwire | "the world isn't ready for this &*%@" |
| 22:12.38 | hardwire | using the same address I have for a passport |
| 22:12.51 | hardwire | that was bad foresight |
| 22:12.52 | a_meteorite | that's a bad idea |
| 22:13.14 | a_meteorite | so, how long was your account around before they killed it? |
| 22:14.17 | hardwire | they didn't kill it |
| 22:14.18 | hardwire | yet |
| 22:14.32 | hardwire | they are just tapping all my communications and sending me bad updates.. |
| 22:14.39 | hardwire | I ASSUME atleast |
| 22:14.51 | a_meteorite | hehe |
| 22:19.43 | hardwire | dude |
| 22:19.50 | hardwire | SportChick: the same thing just happened to a user here |
| 22:29.01 | hardwire | findlay: your right |
| 22:29.09 | hardwire | its really neat playing w/ notexture |
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| 22:41.08 | Erroneous | anyone opposed to us cooperating with xfire? |
| 22:41.33 | a_meteorite | xfire? |
| 22:41.47 | Erroneous | http://www.xfire.com |
| 22:42.12 | a_meteorite | looks neat enough, but it requires Windows :( |
| 22:42.19 | a_meteorite | kinda gives the impression BZFlag is closed-source, IMHO |
| 22:42.35 | Erroneous | not at all |
| 22:42.42 | a_meteorite | *IMHO* |
| 22:43.19 | Erroneous | just because we're open-source doesn't mean we shouldn't interact with closed-source software :) |
| 22:44.23 | L4m3r | I'd be more worried about the "windows only" issue |
| 22:44.42 | L4m3r | I'd say bzflag has a larger mac/linux following than most (as a percentage) |
| 22:45.02 | a_meteorite | yeah |
| 22:45.07 | Erroneous | that's true |
| 22:45.56 | Erroneous | but I don't see that as a significant reason not to support it under windows. it's also an opportunity to get exposure to a pretty large audience. |
| 22:46.58 | L4m3r | I suppose. what does it entail? |
| 22:48.00 | Erroneous | at the simplest level, nothing on our part. they would detect our process and inject a dll to allow other people to join the same server. according to our license that's fine, and there's actually nothing we could do to stop them, although if we asked them not to I'm sure they wouldn't. |
| 22:48.58 | Erroneous | we can also pass messages to their dll to give more information to the user's friends...like what server they're on, and what gamestyle it is |
| 22:49.18 | L4m3r | hm |
| 22:49.19 | Erroneous | I was considering adding that sort of support |
| 22:49.40 | L4m3r | that reminds me, did someone make a protocol hander for bzflag? |
| 22:49.48 | Erroneous | protocol handler? |
| 22:49.53 | L4m3r | i.e. bzflag://bzflag.secretplace.us:5155 |
| 22:50.12 | Erroneous | probably not |
| 22:50.22 | L4m3r | I remember hearing something about it, can't remember if it was a request or a posting |
| 22:50.32 | Erroneous | wouldn't be too difficult to do if not |
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| 22:52.51 | L4m3r | it'd be very nice to have for IRC and bzbb |
| 22:53.07 | L4m3r | altho configuring it to link in IRC would probably be tricky |
| 22:53.17 | L4m3r | and for bzbb it'd need its own bbcode |
| 22:54.00 | TimRiker | Erroneous: we export all that info in xml. all they need to do is query it. |
| 22:54.42 | TimRiker | users on the forums already added info on how to get it to launch bzflag.exe with the correct user/password/server on the commandline. |
| 22:55.01 | Erroneous | yup |
| 22:55.12 | TimRiker | post has bugs, but it should work. (home page http://bzflag.com <- like that) |
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| 22:55.49 | TimRiker | for reference the official home page URL is "http://BZFlag.org/" |
| 22:57.09 | TimRiker | note, no www, correct case, trailing slash and .org instead of .com or .net. many variations work. but the correct one should be posted, not the others. |
| 22:57.17 | hardwire | Erroneous: so you could easily use the Plugin for the xfire stuff eh? |
| 22:57.21 | hardwire | or are plugins server side? |
| 22:57.40 | L4m3r | server side |
| 22:57.47 | hardwire | nyeh |
| 22:58.02 | TimRiker | no dll is required. |
| 22:58.22 | TimRiker | query the player list. and launch bzflag.exe with the correct server on the command line. |
| 22:58.57 | Erroneous | TimRiker: if all is ok, they will be adding it as a supported game, which means that forum post will be either removed or obsoleted. I can make sure they get the url right on the official list. |
| 22:59.14 | hardwire | TimRiker: is info you export in XML on the client side? |
| 22:59.33 | TimRiker | feel free to point them to me for any questions. my email is in the game startup text |
| 22:59.44 | TimRiker | hardwire: no. does it need to be? |
| 22:59.54 | hardwire | TimRiker: heres my thought |
| 23:00.01 | hardwire | it look slike something a client logs into |
| 23:00.02 | hardwire | like jabber |
| 23:00.19 | hardwire | and they subscribe to their buddies and relate their buddy list in categories based on game ID |
| 23:00.32 | TimRiker | all they should need is to know the ip and port that zfire customer X is connected to. the OS will tell you that already. |
| 23:00.35 | hardwire | so it would have to report what you.. the client.. is doing to the xfire IM system |
| 23:00.42 | Erroneous | yes, it is. it's an in-game messenger, among other things |
| 23:00.45 | TimRiker | s/zfire/xfire/ |
| 23:01.12 | hardwire | so the client would have to be able to be queried somehow for "who am i, what server am I on, how am I doing?" |
| 23:01.24 | hardwire | and I think xfire has its own hooks it uses |
| 23:01.32 | Erroneous | I'd like to pass the scores through to it, for one thing |
| 23:02.01 | TimRiker | whoami : read the players config file. what server am i on: check the tcp connection, what am I doing: playing BZFlag, duh. |
| 23:02.13 | hardwire | TimRiker: simple |
| 23:02.23 | hardwire | so L4m3r could write one.. without ever touching the code |
| 23:02.29 | TimRiker | exactly. |
| 23:02.56 | hardwire | not what am I doing.. how am I doing :) |
| 23:03.11 | TimRiker | if they want a dump of all the active players on all the servers to insert on their server, use the xml files from the stats code. |
| 23:03.34 | hardwire | passing the scoreboard through would be kinda neat.. you could have people on different contenents laugh at you and they aren't even in the game |
| 23:03.34 | Erroneous | great, more things hitting our stats server all the time |
| 23:03.37 | Erroneous | easier to let the clients pass it back through their servers |
| 23:03.58 | hardwire | does bzflag grind to a halt when the stats servers are offline? |
| 23:04.08 | L4m3r | pretty much |
| 23:04.11 | TimRiker | that presumes that every client passes it all upstream. and it would not find players by name that are not xfire users. |
| 23:04.31 | hardwire | TimRiker: it probablt still would.. so you could conspire |
| 23:04.34 | L4m3r | established games keep going but they stagnate because no one new comes in, because the list is down |
| 23:04.45 | hardwire | "that darn l4m3r is on here again.. come here and help me out" |
| 23:04.51 | hardwire | "really.. whats the score?" |
| 23:04.54 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:04.54 | TimRiker | well, stats, no, but list server being down is a problem. course stats are on the same machine so that's probably what you meant. :) |
| 23:04.59 | Erroneous | this could help with that too, actually...although better would be to fix our list server |
| 23:05.01 | hardwire | ok.. I am not really in favor of this |
| 23:05.05 | hardwire | but its a neat idea |
| 23:06.08 | hardwire | TimRiker: gotcha |
| 23:06.20 | hardwire | so its not just random people giving up server space.. its just one |
| 23:06.21 | TimRiker | as long as they don't do something lame like having every xfire customer hit the stats server every n seconds, I'm fine with it. |
| 23:06.30 | Erroneous | TimRiker: are you opposed to me committing client side support for it? it's a pretty lightweight modification to the client. |
| 23:07.00 | hardwire | Erroneous: you are gonna have to start from void main() like everybody else dangit! |
| 23:07.04 | TimRiker | Erroneous: as long as it's optional, it's fine by me. |
| 23:07.23 | TimRiker | hardwire: main() is never really void. :) |
| 23:07.36 | hardwire | but it should be.. it should be.. |
| 23:07.46 | TimRiker | no. it should not be. |
| 23:08.16 | Erroneous | TimRiker: ok |
| 23:22.07 | hardwire | my mains are usually quite void. |
| 23:22.29 | Erroneous | they shouldn't be :) |
| 23:22.46 | Erroneous | always return an int so the OS knows whether you were good or not |
| 23:22.55 | hardwire | :) |
| 23:23.04 | Erroneous | otherwise test doesn't work |
| 23:23.22 | hardwire | I know :) |
| 23:23.29 | hardwire | lets just say they never do anything usefull |
| 23:23.34 | hardwire | and might as well be void :) |
| 23:27.17 | TimRiker | it does very useful things on useful OSs |
| 23:27.37 | TimRiker | if grep thing file ; then do other thing ; done |
| 23:27.40 | TimRiker | er fi |
| 23:27.43 | TimRiker | if grep thing file ; then do other thing ; fi |
| 23:28.30 | Erroneous | actually it can do useful things on useless OSs too... IF ERRORLEVEL 5 GOTO... ;) |
| 23:31.51 | hardwire | no.. my main void is useless |
| 23:31.51 | hardwire | haha |
| 23:31.52 | hardwire | ok |
| 23:31.54 | hardwire | narh |
| 23:32.25 | hardwire | it was a joke.. that was really stupid.. that was supposed to be like.. 1 maybe 2 fwacks with a fish |
| 23:33.06 | spldart | ~lart hardwire |
| 23:33.43 | hardwire | good nuff |
| 23:33.51 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:33.57 | hardwire | chianti gives me heartburn |
| 23:34.38 | hardwire | you know what just hit me?.. this iBook has no PCMCIA |
| 23:34.43 | hardwire | thats kinda freaky |
| 23:35.15 | hardwire | I guess thats what happens when your monitor tilts back over where usefull ports could be |
| 23:43.39 | *** join/#bzflag triclops (n=triclops@203-158-51-58.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:50.00 | brlcad | sb goto -40 |
| 23:50.10 | brlcad | well now that won't work, now will it |
| 23:51.04 | spldart | btw brl did you take down all those security things associated with the bb that was given some of us issues trying to post? |
| 23:51.31 | brlcad | blast007: and they're sure it's not because... most people that are infected have no idea that they are other than "it runs so slow" |
| 23:52.12 | blast007 | brlcad: the reported infections on two people were either one or two years ago |
| 23:52.19 | blast007 | both were open proxies |
| 23:52.21 | brlcad | i've had people swear to me that it absolutely couldn't be a virus, only to finally install up to date antivirus and find the blasted thing festering with them |
| 23:52.26 | blast007 | and both were on dynamic IPs |
| 23:52.42 | spldart | My issue was a transgression from a little over 1 year ago.. I've only had my address for a few months |
| 23:52.53 | blast007 | (or at least, where in a another "list" that said there were dynamic) |
| 23:53.21 | Erroneous | how many people have had a virus for a whole year and not done anything about it? everyone I know formats their machines more often than that... |
| 23:53.46 | spldart | or run linux? |
| 23:53.47 | Erroneous | windows decays too fast to run a three-year-old install |
| 23:53.52 | spldart | lol |
| 23:54.08 | blast007 | this one one of them: http://dsbl.org/listing?64.201.196.77 |
| 23:54.12 | blast007 | was one* |
| 23:54.15 | Erroneous | spldart: speaking about those susceptible to viruses :) |
| 23:55.04 | spldart | Something screams @ me holding an ip liable for activity 1 to 2 years ago is just ridiculous |
| 23:55.18 | spldart | well IP addy anywho |
| 23:55.24 | blast007 | it's not like linux is any less succeptable to running an open proxy without the user's knowledge |
| 23:55.43 | spldart | ? You don't think so ? |
| 23:56.15 | Erroneous | blast007: sure it's less susceptible |
| 23:56.21 | spldart | Well.. dsbl.org's system is FLAWED |
| 23:56.33 | blast007 | Erroneous: not if they assume they are safe, and run stuff they are unsure of |
| 23:56.48 | spldart | Now assume the same for a windows user |
| 23:56.55 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:57.04 | Erroneous | blast007: heh, and they run as root... |
| 23:57.08 | blast007 | "Look, free software!! /me installs" |
| 23:57.23 | blast007 | they wouldn't need to run as root :) |
| 23:57.36 | Erroneous | to run a socks proxy you need to be root |
| 23:57.36 | blast007 | it could install something into their home directory |
| 23:57.39 | brlcad | blast007: i don't doubt that there were/are false positives (which is part why it was disabled), I just also don't think dynamic ip is a good excuse/proof in itself that they don't have a problem |
| 23:57.45 | Erroneous | you can't use those ports otherwise |
| 23:58.15 | blast007 | brlcad: I don't find that part silly, I find the date of the reported infection to be silly |
| 23:58.16 | brlcad | the blacklists will remove any incorrectly blocking IP if you report it to them |
| 23:58.21 | spldart | The time frame is too long though |
| 23:58.29 | blast007 | 2 years is plenty of time to remove a proxy |
| 23:58.30 | brlcad | blast007: I agree for that particular instance |
| 23:58.46 | brlcad | the blacklist should delist things after 6 months or so of inactivity |
| 23:59.01 | brlcad | maybe even less |
| 23:59.26 | Erroneous | it IS inherently more secure. is it foolproof? no. are there rooted linux boxes out there? of course. but linux distros in general have much saner defaults. the "everyone is admin, and has a blank password" default is really really bad |