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| 01:44.55 | HelloWorldSmiley | SportChick: can i suck on your clit ? |
| 01:45.28 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 01:45.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@68-187-150-65.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com] by DTRemenak |
| 01:45.39 | *** kick/#bzflag [HelloWorldSmiley!n=DTRemena@adsl-68-126-0-210.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] by DTRemenak (DTRemenak) |
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| 01:45.59 | spldart | Geez |
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| 01:46.04 | spldart | lame |
| 01:46.05 | L4m3r | Hel-lo |
| 01:46.07 | Khellendros | hey |
| 01:46.25 | SportChick | nalioth: DTRemenak kicked/banned him |
| 01:46.34 | Khellendros | SportChick: what happened ? |
| 01:46.43 | spldart | He's being rude don't worry about it |
| 01:46.45 | DTRemenak | sorry, should I not have? |
| 01:46.48 | Khellendros | ( its me helldragon ) |
| 01:46.54 | Khellendros | ok |
| 01:46.56 | DTRemenak | yup, recognized the cloack |
| 01:46.59 | DTRemenak | s/ck/k/ |
| 01:47.05 | SportChick | I'm perfectly happy with it, but you may want to verify for nalioth |
| 01:47.15 | Khellendros | its my third nick, because im at 20 channels on the other ones :) |
| 01:47.58 | spldart | confucious say man who harass chic can't get one |
| 01:49.12 | spldart | This is where all of you apply fortune cookie addage..."in bed" |
| 01:49.39 | DTRemenak | SportChick: if you ever don't want me to kickban someone who says something like that, better tell me in advance :) |
| 01:49.48 | SportChick | DTRemenak: I am happy for you to do so |
| 01:49.59 | SportChick | ask nalioth if it makes a difference |
| 01:50.19 | SportChick | I just pasted to him the join/message/ban so he had the details |
| 01:50.24 | SportChick | to kline him |
| 01:50.24 | DTRemenak | I pm'ed him the relevant text also |
| 01:50.28 | SportChick | ok |
| 01:50.31 | SportChick | he got it twice :) |
| 01:50.44 | DTRemenak | good, then he knows you weren't faking it :) |
| 01:50.53 | SportChick | DTRemenak: I'm going to dinner - most places are +m now, but you at least have rights in most of the others |
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| 01:51.14 | SportChick | kick/ban/pm nalioth as necessary :) |
| 01:51.17 | LanceDural | hey |
| 01:51.56 | DTRemenak | heh. I read that as "kick nalioth/ban nalioth/pm nalioth as necessary", which was definitely not the right expansion :) |
| 01:51.59 | LanceDural | hey SportChick |
| 01:52.03 | LanceDural | hey DTRemenak |
| 01:52.11 | DTRemenak | hello |
| 01:52.13 | spldart | Hi |
| 01:52.40 | LanceDural | hey /names , then |
| 01:52.47 | SportChick | nope |
| 01:52.52 | SportChick | hellow |
| 01:52.54 | SportChick | -w |
| 01:53.05 | spldart | Hi, moshi moshi |
| 01:53.08 | LanceDural | SPORTCHICK, DID YOU KNOW THAT HELLDRAGON AND CHRISTEL BOTH LOVE TO SUCK ON YOUR CLIT |
| 01:53.10 | LanceDural | SPORTCHICK, DID YOU KNOW THAT HELLDRAGON AND CHRISTEL BOTH LOVE TO SUCK ON YOUR CLIT |
| 01:53.10 | LanceDural | SPORTCHICK, DID YOU KNOW THAT HELLDRAGON AND CHRISTEL BOTH LOVE TO SUCK ON YOUR CLIT |
| 01:53.13 | spldart | geea |
| 01:53.15 | spldart | z |
| 01:53.19 | SportChick | I had a feeeling |
| 01:53.20 | Khellendros | wtf |
| 01:53.26 | SportChick | can we just go +m dtr? please |
| 01:53.31 | spldart | geez and a half |
| 01:53.33 | Khellendros | i wont be able to talk ! |
| 01:53.35 | *** mode/#bzflag [+m] by DTRemenak |
| 01:53.44 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Khellendros] by DTRemenak |
| 01:53.53 | Khellendros | yay |
| 01:53.59 | *** mode/#bzflag [+vvvv a_temp_dist Admirarch amcnabb blast007] by DTRemenak |
| 01:54.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [+vv Blue_Eyes brad] by DTRemenak |
| 01:54.04 | SportChick | ty DTRemenak |
| 01:54.09 | SportChick | maybe in bzchat too |
| 01:54.09 | *** mode/#bzflag [+vvvv broken_chaos catay CBG CIA-1] by DTRemenak |
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| 01:54.32 | spldart | thank you :) |
| 01:54.43 | SportChick | ~dtremenak++ |
| 01:54.53 | spldart | ~dtremenak++ |
| 01:55.01 | spldart | for dealing with teh poopie heads |
| 01:55.52 | L4m3r | ~dtremenak++ |
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| 01:57.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Legolas_] by DTRemenak |
| 01:57.59 | Legolas_ | thanks dtr. |
| 01:58.11 | spldart | siege in here :( |
| 01:58.16 | DTRemenak | np. that's the bad thing about +m :( |
| 01:58.27 | Khellendros | some noobs are trolling us with lasers ! |
| 01:58.39 | spldart | And base camping |
| 01:58.53 | Legolas_ | sounds like fun |
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| 02:11.06 | Legolas_ | hi jeff |
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| 02:13.57 | DTRemenak | zee188: /nick yourcallsign please |
| 02:15.12 | SC-phone | he probably can't /nick without a voice & +m |
| 02:15.41 | JeffM2501 | we had to go mod? |
| 02:15.45 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 02:15.48 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 02:16.05 | nalioth | JeffM2501: personal attack spam. |
| 02:16.13 | DTRemenak | nalioth said it best |
| 02:16.14 | JeffM2501 | joy |
| 02:16.20 | JeffM2501 | against who this time? |
| 02:16.40 | DTRemenak | via pm |
| 02:17.01 | DTRemenak | though most everyone here was here at the time |
| 02:17.03 | JeffM2501 | nice |
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| 02:19.22 | JeffM2501 | guess that means my headake today was pre-emptive |
| 02:19.26 | Legolas_ | in a second can you guys give me a lift with a cvs problem? |
| 02:19.28 | DTRemenak | guess so |
| 02:19.39 | DTRemenak | Legolas_: sure |
| 02:21.01 | SC-phone | hi jeffm2501 |
| 02:21.05 | JeffM2501 | hi |
| 02:21.14 | Legolas_ | i keep getting an error, ill run it agian and give you the error message |
| 02:27.01 | Legolas_ | waits impatiently for an ibook g4 to finish cvs'ing |
| 02:27.17 | JeffM2501 | is the problem with CVS? or with compiling? |
| 02:27.31 | Legolas_ | thanks for the correction, its the compiling. |
| 02:28.01 | JeffM2501 | 2.1.x or 2.0.x? |
| 02:29.15 | Legolas_ | i just did: |
| 02:29.15 | Legolas_ | i just did cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co bzflag |
| 02:29.22 | JeffM2501 | that's 2.1 |
| 02:29.26 | Legolas_ | cool :) |
| 02:29.41 | JeffM2501 | are you trying to build a client that is compatable with existing servers? |
| 02:29.50 | JeffM2501 | aka the normal servers you play on? |
| 02:29.57 | Legolas_ | yes and no |
| 02:30.07 | JeffM2501 | 2.1 is not compatable with 2.0.x |
| 02:30.51 | Legolas_ | can i start a local bzflag host and then play on it with another local machine running 2.0.x? |
| 02:30.59 | JeffM2501 | NO |
| 02:31.24 | JeffM2501 | it is 100% not compatable in any way with 2.0.x |
| 02:31.24 | DTRemenak | not compatible means...not compatible :) |
| 02:31.24 | Legolas_ | really? i never would have guessed. |
| 02:31.30 | Legolas_ | thats fine, ill just run it on the slow laptop then |
| 02:31.31 | JeffM2501 | just like 1.10 can't work with 2.0 |
| 02:31.41 | JeffM2501 | you can build 2.0.x from cvs if you want |
| 02:31.42 | Legolas_ | ok, i get the picture |
| 02:31.50 | JeffM2501 | what were you hoping to get out of cvs? |
| 02:31.57 | Legolas_ | the code |
| 02:31.58 | JeffM2501 | rather then the premade binarys |
| 02:32.03 | JeffM2501 | you are going to make mods? |
| 02:32.09 | Legolas_ | not publically |
| 02:32.09 | JeffM2501 | cus you can get the 2.0.x code from cvs |
| 02:32.19 | JeffM2501 | just use the v2_0branch |
| 02:32.28 | JeffM2501 | -r v2_0branch after the co |
| 02:32.40 | JeffM2501 | if you don't do a -r, then you get the top of cvs, our dev code |
| 02:32.46 | Legolas_ | okie dokie |
| 02:33.03 | Legolas_ | ill do that later on the g5. i need the newest code for this plan. |
| 02:33.05 | DTRemenak | which may or may not work, and certainly will not let you actually play with anyone :) |
| 02:33.42 | Legolas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.45 | Legolas_ | just like that? |
| 02:33.48 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:33.54 | JeffM2501 | then bzflag at the end |
| 02:33.54 | DTRemenak | add the "bzflag" back on the end |
| 02:33.58 | DTRemenak | still need the module name |
| 02:33.59 | Legolas_ | oh. duh . got it |
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| 02:38.48 | Legolas_ | geez this ibook is slow |
| 02:43.20 | Legolas_ | how can i apply a patch after i get it compiled? |
| 02:43.29 | JeffM2501 | you don |
| 02:43.30 | JeffM2501 | t |
| 02:43.34 | JeffM2501 | patches are changes to the source |
| 02:43.37 | JeffM2501 | not the end binary |
| 02:43.50 | DTRemenak | therefore, you apply it before you compile |
| 02:43.55 | Legolas_ | so if i get a patch what do i do to it? |
| 02:44.00 | DTRemenak | patch -p0 < mypatch.diff |
| 02:44.16 | DTRemenak | with mypatch.diff in your bzflag source directory root |
| 02:44.44 | Legolas_ | hmm. so whats the code for getting to the spot where the patch needs to be put? |
| 02:45.01 | JeffM2501 | code? |
| 02:45.10 | DTRemenak | depends where you checked out bzflag |
| 02:45.11 | JeffM2501 | like drag the file into the folder man |
| 02:45.14 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 02:45.25 | Legolas_ | lol drag what file in where? |
| 02:45.36 | JeffM2501 | where you have your bzflag source code |
| 02:45.38 | Legolas_ | not that bright here with patches and source files |
| 02:45.40 | JeffM2501 | where ever you did your checkout |
| 02:45.41 | DTRemenak | the patch file, to the folder that has the sources |
| 02:45.55 | JeffM2501 | now your just talking basic computer usage |
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| 02:46.42 | spldart | danke |
| 02:47.59 | spldart | stupid win xp upchucked a driver on the nic card on my nightstand computer so had to reboot to linux like a silly neo maxi zoom dweeby |
| 02:49.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v AAA_awright] by DTRemenak |
| 02:50.12 | Legolas_ | DTRemenak = Voice controller |
| 02:50.39 | spldart | Thus sprake DTRstra |
| 02:50.44 | DTRemenak | well, I'm the one who set +m, so I'm the one who gets to give +v :S |
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| 02:51.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Theme97] by DTRemenak |
| 02:51.22 | nalioth | what will you do when it's time to eat sleep and visit the office, DTRemenak ? |
| 02:51.51 | Legolas_ | The Devs don't do that sort of fun stuff |
| 02:51.59 | spldart | :O |
| 02:52.25 | DTRemenak | nalioth: I've been eating |
| 02:52.29 | DTRemenak | I will not sleep for some time yet |
| 02:52.34 | JeffM2501 | and he gets in to work before me |
| 02:52.36 | DTRemenak | and I will not go to the office for even more time |
| 02:52.39 | JeffM2501 | so I can cover him while he drives :) |
| 02:53.02 | Legolas_ | hopefully you have been eating, we dont want our tanks to get to skinny they might think of us as cheaters |
| 02:53.07 | spldart | truly sad state of affairs :( |
| 02:53.26 | Legolas_ | i must woefully agree with spldart |
| 02:53.30 | DTRemenak | and perhaps by that time our little annoyance will have run out of proxies or something, and we can do -m |
| 02:54.30 | Legolas_ | heh i just noticed that u guys have some information on the plugins. |
| 02:55.04 | Legolas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.10 | Legolas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.11 | Legolas_ | etc |
| 02:58.42 | DTRemenak | what are you on, an Osborne? :) |
| 02:59.15 | JeffM2501 | damn.. and they arn't that expensive |
| 02:59.33 | JeffM2501 | 975$ |
| 02:59.39 | DTRemenak | Osbornes? they better not be that expensive :D |
| 02:59.39 | Legolas_ | :) |
| 02:59.46 | JeffM2501 | the HP |
| 03:01.15 | JeffM2501 | why not just buy a PC, it's the same thing ;) |
| 03:01.26 | JeffM2501 | and stop calling them "G5" |
| 03:01.28 | spldart | old panasonic toughbook |
| 03:01.28 | JeffM2501 | cus they aint |
| 03:01.38 | Legolas_ | i like the g5 better than the stupid intel names. |
| 03:01.46 | Legolas_ | g5 sounds cool |
| 03:01.46 | JeffM2501 | it's an imac |
| 03:01.50 | JeffM2501 | same name as it was before |
| 03:01.52 | Legolas_ | i got to go eat, ill ttyl |
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| 03:02.43 | DTRemenak | he's got a point, "Core" is a really stupid name |
| 03:03.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:03.31 | JeffM2501 | hmmm, if I go down to a 15.4 inch, I can get a 7200 for video.... |
| 03:03.40 | AAA_awright | "Dual core: do more". Yah, right. |
| 03:03.54 | JeffM2501 | I love my dual cores |
| 03:03.59 | JeffM2501 | and it does let me do a lot more at one time |
| 03:04.15 | DTRemenak | heh. 7200 is a bad model number, simply because both companies use it :) |
| 03:04.23 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 03:04.23 | AAA_awright | Okay, so it _does_ help. But double cores!=double peformance |
| 03:04.26 | JeffM2501 | nvidia go 7200 |
| 03:04.36 | spldart | I wann dual dual core ':-( |
| 03:04.37 | JeffM2501 | nope, noone says it doubles performance |
| 03:04.45 | DTRemenak | they say you can "do more" |
| 03:04.46 | DTRemenak | and you can |
| 03:04.52 | JeffM2501 | but it does help with just runing the machine a lot |
| 03:05.20 | AAA_awright | alright, I was wrong to begin with. Must be my mysterious... thing... I have for intel |
| 03:05.35 | JeffM2501 | intel isn't the only multi core CPU |
| 03:05.48 | DTRemenak | nor were they first |
| 03:06.02 | AAA_awright | 64-bit... now there is somthing to brag about (moreso If you are on unix) |
| 03:06.17 | spldart | heh |
| 03:06.22 | JeffM2501 | looking at the laptops it's like 200$ more to get a core duo over a dual core turion |
| 03:06.33 | DTRemenak | ugh |
| 03:06.40 | DTRemenak | of equivalent speed? |
| 03:06.51 | JeffM2501 | hard to say |
| 03:06.57 | JeffM2501 | the core are probably faster |
| 03:06.58 | DTRemenak | yeah, know what you mean :( |
| 03:07.17 | DTRemenak | see, and that stupid name gets people to say stuff like "the core are" |
| 03:07.58 | JeffM2501 | well for the same clock speed, it's like 200$ more for the intel |
| 03:08.22 | JeffM2501 | and they only go down to a core 1, and then core 2s |
| 03:09.13 | JeffM2501 | on the AMD side it only goes up by 100$ to go from a sempy to a turion X2 at 1.6gig with 512 cache |
| 03:09.30 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 03:09.44 | DTRemenak | sempron->turion x2 is a major upgrade |
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| 03:10.13 | JeffM2501 | then 75$ more to go from a go 6150 onboard to a go 7600 |
| 03:10.23 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v tdizzle] by DTRemenak |
| 03:10.33 | JeffM2501 | yeah, they only offer a 1.8 gig sempy |
| 03:10.38 | JeffM2501 | so it's not a horible sempy |
| 03:10.44 | JeffM2501 | but I'd rather have the turion |
| 03:10.48 | JeffM2501 | ddr suport and all that :) |
| 03:11.02 | DTRemenak | wow, that's a really modest price delta from 6150 to 7600 too |
| 03:11.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:11.18 | JeffM2501 | and a 256meg 7600 |
| 03:11.30 | JeffM2501 | free upgrade to a gig of ram |
| 03:11.39 | DTRemenak | that's just about a necessity |
| 03:11.43 | JeffM2501 | 80 gig sata drive in clude in the price |
| 03:11.54 | JeffM2501 | dual layer burner standard |
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| 03:13.27 | JeffM2501 | well the intel model DOES come standard with the 7600 |
| 03:13.35 | JeffM2501 | and dosn't have the 6150 as an option |
| 03:13.46 | JeffM2501 | sempys are good CPUs |
| 03:13.51 | DTRemenak | xp is gonna have a fit |
| 03:13.57 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 03:14.02 | JeffM2501 | you gonna change mobos? |
| 03:14.03 | DTRemenak | switching from sis to nforce |
| 03:14.05 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 03:14.07 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 03:14.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:14.14 | JeffM2501 | it may not even boot |
| 03:14.31 | DTRemenak | I can get it to boot. just have to set it up right before you shut down |
| 03:15.00 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 03:15.10 | DTRemenak | probably gonna have to switch to a pirated key, since I really don't want to call microsoft to reactivate |
| 03:15.33 | AAA_awright | Swaping only the CPU shouldn't do that... |
| 03:15.38 | DTRemenak | cpu and motherboard |
| 03:15.50 | DTRemenak | which means about a dozen actual devices |
| 03:16.07 | JeffM2501 | configed for the same clock speed CPU, the AMD is 125$ cheaper |
| 03:16.23 | AAA_awright | There is a limit of serial numbers that you can change. If it has no examinable serial number, it dosn't see a change. |
| 03:16.23 | DTRemenak | and I've already changed the video card twice, the nic, the ram, added two hard drives... since I installed |
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| 03:16.43 | JeffM2501 | don't forget the nic in the mobo is bad |
| 03:16.46 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 03:16.51 | DTRemenak | I'm using a card now anyway |
| 03:17.03 | DTRemenak | couldn't use my onboard at Tech since it didn't have a hardware MAC |
| 03:17.22 | DTRemenak | so it would boot up and get my port blocked before I could set a MAC :S |
| 03:17.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChicky] by DTRemenak |
| 03:18.08 | DTRemenak | SportChicky: see, you don't auto-id either! |
| 03:21.13 | JeffM2501 | the question is, is a 17 incher worth the extra money |
| 03:21.40 | AAA_awright | LCD? |
| 03:21.51 | nalioth | JeffM2501: macbook pro? no. |
| 03:22.11 | JeffM2501 | oh god no |
| 03:22.20 | JeffM2501 | why would I want to pay more for the apple logo |
| 03:22.33 | nalioth | sorry, been off chasing feral boars |
| 03:22.35 | nalioth | er, bores |
| 03:22.38 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 03:22.55 | JeffM2501 | for the hardwar macbooks seem rather overpriced |
| 03:23.09 | JeffM2501 | looking at HPs right now |
| 03:23.34 | AAA_awright | Mac OX X? Sure. |
| 03:24.09 | AAA_awright | But I won't say Macbook pro unless you need somthing exclusive to that. |
| 03:24.09 | DTRemenak | do the sell the plows too? |
| 03:24.18 | AAA_awright | * oS x |
| 03:24.26 | DTRemenak | s/the/they/ |
| 03:24.31 | AAA_awright | lol |
| 03:24.38 | JeffM2501 | AAA_awright, naw, I could put OSX on other hardware if I wanted to for some silly reason |
| 03:24.40 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: get with it! |
| 03:24.40 | DTRemenak | making fun of your typo and got one myself |
| 03:24.44 | JeffM2501 | it's the SAME hardware |
| 03:24.47 | DTRemenak | what justice :) |
| 03:25.27 | AAA_awright | JeffM2501, true, but I am more worried about it coming bundled with windows. Becides, Apple makes good hardware. |
| 03:25.35 | purple_cow | uh |
| 03:25.44 | purple_cow | AAA_awright: have you ever *used* any apple hardware? :) |
| 03:25.49 | JeffM2501 | AAA_awright, so do other people |
| 03:25.51 | AAA_awright | Yes. |
| 03:25.58 | JeffM2501 | they each come with an OS, whopty freaking do |
| 03:26.01 | JeffM2501 | it's software |
| 03:26.04 | DTRemenak | woohoo, flamewar coming right up! |
| 03:27.15 | JeffM2501 | I mean I can get an HP 17 for just over 1000, the macbook STARTS at 2800$ |
| 03:27.42 | JeffM2501 | that's a huge price dif |
| 03:28.03 | JeffM2501 | heck the 15 isn't even in the ballpark |
| 03:28.38 | nalioth | the macbook will well outlast the HP |
| 03:28.45 | JeffM2501 | sure you get an X1600 for video, but that's not realy worth it |
| 03:28.56 | JeffM2501 | for the money I'm saving I can get another HP ;) |
| 03:29.13 | AAA_awright | How about this. Go to an apple store, and install BZFlag on the cheapest laptop. If it runs smooth, get it. If not upgrade. |
| 03:29.26 | JeffM2501 | dude, I know what in them |
| 03:29.29 | JeffM2501 | I own a mac |
| 03:29.31 | AAA_awright | When it gets too expensive, you know that Apple is not for you. |
| 03:29.42 | JeffM2501 | the cheapest mac book is too expensive for me |
| 03:29.52 | JeffM2501 | I'm not paying 1800$ for a 15 inch laptop |
| 03:30.26 | purple_cow | but just think of the sense of superiority it would give you |
| 03:30.33 | JeffM2501 | if I pay that much I'll get a tablet :) |
| 03:30.41 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, I have that in so many other places ;) |
| 03:30.59 | JeffM2501 | so basicly my @ saves me 1800$ :) |
| 03:31.02 | purple_cow | i bet your hair isn't perfectly tousled |
| 03:31.12 | JeffM2501 | I have to stand out side |
| 03:31.15 | nalioth | JeffM2501: 1800? |
| 03:31.23 | AAA_awright | (must... prevent... flamewar) Just think though: Microsoft is rolling out their new OS soon. Little more explination needed. |
| 03:31.25 | nalioth | JeffM2501: you can get a macbook for > $1000 |
| 03:31.35 | JeffM2501 | ewww, intel onboard video.. no thanks |
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| 03:31.50 | JeffM2501 | and a 13incher |
| 03:31.54 | JeffM2501 | what's the point of that |
| 03:32.24 | purple_cow | bah |
| 03:32.30 | purple_cow | 13 inches is too big! |
| 03:32.46 | JeffM2501 | it may have to be my main machine for a number of weeks |
| 03:33.13 | JeffM2501 | hopefully not |
| 03:33.37 | DTRemenak | weeks!? |
| 03:33.58 | AAA_awright | ... Is that a bad thing or good thing? |
| 03:34.32 | DTRemenak | "hopefully not" <- suggests it's a bad thing |
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| 03:39.43 | JeffM2501 | they have to do a mold thing in my house |
| 03:39.47 | JeffM2501 | so we have to leave for like week |
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| 03:43.13 | DTRemenak | aw |
| 03:45.23 | AAA_awright | I was going to ask, if you have ever been to stats.bzflag.org (yes I assume), what sort of features have you ever wanted? |
| 03:47.48 | shorty114 | eh? |
| 03:48.06 | shorty114 | i guess it's +m and voices in #bzflag now :) |
| 03:49.02 | AAA_awright | ... I ask because I have put up player usage stats on my (expirmental proof-of-concept) stat site http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/ |
| 03:56.32 | AAA_awright | Any ideas? anyone? |
| 03:59.27 | brlcad | AAA_awright: a little cleaner layout, but seems to be the same basic interface? |
| 03:59.56 | AAA_awright | yah. In fact, I use the same stylesheets. But that's it. |
| 04:00.51 | brlcad | hm, mostly the same info too :) |
| 04:01.20 | AAA_awright | Servers and stuff, yah. I keep records of the players, though. Might want to check that out. |
| 04:01.23 | brlcad | just without explaining any of the score info |
| 04:01.46 | AAA_awright | Explaining...? |
| 04:02.02 | brlcad | well comparing to how it is now, compared to what you've made |
| 04:02.39 | brlcad | you collapse it all into a fairly dense data line, e.g. With score 103 [+0.518] (48-151) [0] |
| 04:03.25 | AAA_awright | That may some explaining, yes. If you know the BZFlag scoring line it should be self-explanatory. |
| 04:03.30 | AAA_awright | *need |
| 04:04.02 | brlcad | heh, I know the bzflag scoring line and not all of those values are self-explanatory to me :) |
| 04:04.52 | AAA_awright | I realised I do explain the score. See the help page. |
| 04:05.14 | AAA_awright | very bottom. It may need some expanding, but... |
| 04:05.17 | brlcad | it's not a matter of having it documented somewhere |
| 04:05.56 | brlcad | it's not complex data to present, it should be fiarly obvious without having to read the docs unless you want to get into graphing up derivatives and statistics over time, etc |
| 04:06.22 | AAA_awright | Mabye a (?) link? That wouldn't look great, though. On the table header? |
| 04:06.32 | brlcad | don't get me wrong, looks like good work.. just some usability issues |
| 04:06.51 | JeffM2501 | too bad noone makes a 17inch tablet |
| 04:06.55 | JeffM2501 | that would kick ass |
| 04:07.00 | AAA_awright | Heh. |
| 04:07.03 | AAA_awright | :) |
| 04:07.34 | AAA_awright | I should put up a ? link on the table header, and expand the user page to four lines for four fields. Good |
| 04:07.37 | AAA_awright | ? |
| 04:08.39 | brlcad | AAA_awright: consider the current table, e.g. http://stats.bzflag.org/playerinfo.php?callsign=chumpchange -- is there any doubt as to what value is what? a person might not know what "High Kill Ratio" means, but they know that 0.888889 is/was this player's without needing explanation |
| 04:09.24 | brlcad | not saying that's a great example for how it should be, but it does speak fairly clearly from a usability perspective |
| 04:09.58 | AAA_awright | I see. I will expand the score line to as many lines a possable, that should be better |
| 04:10.16 | brlcad | odesn't necessarily have to be multiple lines |
| 04:10.35 | brlcad | a table header might do the trick, especially if you were to track their score over time |
| 04:10.39 | brlcad | that would be a cool feature |
| 04:10.55 | AAA_awright | Score over time is somthing I am *trying* to do. |
| 04:11.13 | brlcad | example, http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=3248&ugn=bzflag&mode=week&&type=prdownload |
| 04:11.26 | brlcad | that is effectively a "score" line there on the table at the bottom |
| 04:11.31 | AAA_awright | Have you seen the player search? go to players, click on "search all players". |
| 04:11.56 | AAA_awright | Yah. I am planning somthing like that. |
| 04:12.29 | AAA_awright | http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/playersearch Should I make the link stand out better? |
| 04:12.44 | AAA_awright | It is sort of hidden. |
| 04:13.59 | brlcad | i like the ajaxing, though feedback of no result would be useful and making sure it still works for the folks that don't have javascript :) |
| 04:14.54 | AAA_awright | It works without javascript, just like a normal form. |
| 04:15.05 | brlcad | ah, nice |
| 04:15.15 | AAA_awright | Will add a "no players found" message, too. |
| 04:15.58 | brlcad | what's your goal with this? |
| 04:17.06 | AAA_awright | It is mostly a proof-of-concept, showing off my PHP library. |
| 04:17.34 | brlcad | ahh |
| 04:17.43 | AAA_awright | I have a script in progress that can log player kills/deaths, flag movment, ect, too. |
| 04:18.19 | AAA_awright | It is funny, on the same computer, bzadmin has a 500ms ping time, bzflag has an 18ms ping time, and the PHP script has 1ms. |
| 04:19.30 | JeffM2501 | wow I could spend 3500 and get a 20.1 inch "laptop" |
| 04:20.43 | AAA_awright | Ultimately I may use it as part of a server, detailing tank interactions, ect. |
| 04:20.48 | AAA_awright | thanks for your sugguestions, brlcad |
| 04:21.29 | brlcad | any reason you wouldn't think these changes would be suitable for the main stats site? |
| 04:22.25 | AAA_awright | I could imagine parts of this one day become integrated with the main stats site. |
| 04:22.57 | brlcad | i mean if you're willing to put in the effort to make the improvements, might as well work towards making them live on the main site |
| 04:23.28 | JeffM2501 | best would be to mod the game servers to send all that player info on each update as well, so that the stats system dosn't have to poll |
| 04:23.29 | AAA_awright | True. Wonder who would be able to do that? |
| 04:24.22 | AAA_awright | have the game servers stream score data to the stats site...? |
| 04:24.35 | JeffM2501 | not steam |
| 04:24.44 | JeffM2501 | just have them send the scores when they heartbeat |
| 04:24.51 | JeffM2501 | or update the list |
| 04:24.59 | JeffM2501 | since they have to contact the list anyway |
| 04:25.19 | AAA_awright | The script already has the ability to connect as an observer (or any team) and record scores. |
| 04:25.33 | JeffM2501 | yeah but then it's pollin tons of servers |
| 04:25.46 | JeffM2501 | it's better to let the servers push |
| 04:26.16 | AAA_awright | true. I can only imagine how the servers would "opt in", though. Or opt-out for that matter. |
| 04:26.19 | JeffM2501 | then there are only conections when data changes |
| 04:26.30 | JeffM2501 | make it the default for public servers |
| 04:26.41 | JeffM2501 | and a "-nostats" option for those that want out |
| 04:26.43 | AAA_awright | for the popular servers, the data changes alot. |
| 04:27.05 | JeffM2501 | that's fine, then it's still the same amount of conections for them as polling |
| 04:27.11 | JeffM2501 | but for others its less |
| 04:27.14 | brlcad | AAA_awright: servers already "opt-in" to get publicly listed |
| 04:27.21 | JeffM2501 | so at worst it's the same, at best it's less |
| 04:27.40 | brlcad | yeah |
| 04:27.46 | JeffM2501 | techincaly your poling system has no "opt out" |
| 04:27.51 | JeffM2501 | as it connects to everyone |
| 04:27.54 | brlcad | and for popular servers, they already are contacting the list server "a lot" |
| 04:27.58 | AAA_awright | *on the list server |
| 04:28.08 | AAA_awright | actually, there is an opt-out |
| 04:28.18 | JeffM2501 | ban the script? |
| 04:28.27 | brlcad | this wouldn't increase the number of connections to the list server, just would be a few additional bytes |
| 04:28.35 | AAA_awright | there is a switch that prevents people connecting without joining as a tank |
| 04:28.39 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 04:28.57 | JeffM2501 | well you still get more controll from leting the servers do it |
| 04:29.05 | JeffM2501 | some servers may only want to update every 10 min or so |
| 04:29.12 | JeffM2501 | to save bandwith, then they have that option |
| 04:29.29 | JeffM2501 | it's also less resources on the list server machine as it's not having to constantly poll |
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| 04:30.25 | brlcad | though that seems to be rather negligible at the moment, more resource intensive is the inbound updates |
| 04:30.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 04:30.35 | AAA_awright | Only a few kb of data is transfered every connection. |
| 04:30.45 | JeffM2501 | I just think it's better in the long run as a push system, then a poller |
| 04:31.01 | JeffM2501 | then you could make the stats system have a generic interface that other sites could use |
| 04:31.11 | JeffM2501 | right now each stats site has to poll it's own set of data |
| 04:31.19 | brlcad | yeah, and the polling doesn't really have to go away .. just wouldn't be what stats/list uses |
| 04:32.00 | JeffM2501 | I'd think you'd have to do both for a while |
| 04:32.09 | JeffM2501 | poll the servers that don't push any data ( old ones ) |
| 04:32.54 | brlcad | i wouldn't get rid of polling really, it's just a basic ability to ask a server what they have |
| 04:33.13 | brlcad | we just happened to take advantage of that ability to get stats, even though the data should have been push-provided |
| 04:33.44 | brlcad | it'd still be useful to have the ability to ask the server what they have on the spot |
| 04:33.53 | brlcad | without them having to be public, or talking to the list server, et |
| 04:33.54 | JeffM2501 | must stop drooling at 20 inch laptops........ |
| 04:34.17 | AAA_awright | Any final ideas? |
| 04:34.19 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah the server should still respond to the querys |
| 04:34.23 | AAA_awright | must go soon |
| 04:34.24 | brlcad | i was thinking my 17" is too big for a lot of situations |
| 04:34.39 | JeffM2501 | I'm pondering ether a 17 or a 15.4 |
| 04:34.52 | JeffM2501 | with the HPs the price dif isn't THAT much to go to a 17 |
| 04:35.09 | brlcad | AAA_awright: graphs |
| 04:35.22 | AAA_awright | My site is diffrent in that it updates a static HTML page, and only uses the database when refreshing. |
| 04:35.29 | brlcad | AAA_awright: that alone makes it useful to replace the current stats.. |
| 04:35.31 | AAA_awright | implementing those soon. Within 14 days. |
| 04:35.43 | AAA_awright | I have the framework the that down... |
| 04:35.46 | brlcad | mysql is intensively pounded |
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| 04:36.14 | AAA_awright | my database is only connected to when refreshing, I generate static HTML pages. |
| 04:36.32 | JeffM2501 | that would be a good thing for the main system |
| 04:36.32 | brlcad | eh, I got that much -- you just said that :) |
| 04:36.35 | AAA_awright | there is a link to see the live source at the bottom, sugguest theching tht out. |
| 04:36.39 | AAA_awright | checking |
| 04:36.56 | SportChick | brlcad: you back home now? |
| 04:37.00 | brlcad | SportChick: yes |
| 04:37.08 | SportChick | brad: how was Utah? :) |
| 04:37.27 | brlcad | brad enjoyed it |
| 04:37.32 | AAA_awright | well, bye all. Will implement the UI changes by tommrow, the graph... soon. |
| 04:37.36 | AAA_awright | "bye all" |
| 04:37.39 | brlcad | cheers |
| 04:38.29 | brlcad | the mountains surrounding SLC are just gorgeous.. which I appreciated even more so when I hiked up to the top of one of them a couple days ago |
| 04:39.19 | brlcad | that was quite a hard workout, picked one of the steepest and climbed for about two hours |
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| 04:53.01 | SportChick | brlcad: sounds nice :) |
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| 06:11.09 | Noodleman | is it just me or are we having list server troubles? |
| 06:18.07 | essy | I haven't had any problems, Noodleman |
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| 06:22.37 | Noodleman | hrm |
| 06:23.06 | Noodleman | because i can't ping my.bzflag.org either |
| 06:23.12 | Noodleman | that's where the list is, right? |
| 06:23.25 | DTRemenak | yup. I can connect |
| 06:23.33 | SilverFox | thank you DTRemenak. |
| 06:24.10 | DTRemenak | np. feel free to ask via pm, I have my speakers turned up for just that reason |
| 06:24.16 | SilverFox | DTRemenak, is it a name resolution problem, or a no route to host problem? |
| 06:24.38 | DTRemenak | I dunno. it works for me. |
| 06:24.51 | SilverFox | errr. sorry, Noodleman, is it a ... |
| 06:24.55 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 06:25.22 | SilverFox | ie, when you ping my.bzflag.org, does it resolve to an IP address, or do you get no host found? |
| 06:26.10 | Noodleman | oh, it resolves just fine |
| 06:26.22 | Noodleman | 11 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss |
| 06:26.24 | SilverFox | so, you try a traceroute? |
| 06:26.32 | Noodleman | SilverFox: yup, sure did |
| 06:26.39 | SilverFox | how far does it get? |
| 06:26.49 | Noodleman | it gets to hop 9, which is in chicago, i guess |
| 06:27.43 | SilverFox | my trace: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/179443 |
| 06:28.10 | jujibo | Noodleman: it works for me too |
| 06:28.35 | SilverFox | if its dying that far upstream, I'd say there isn't a whole lot you can do. |
| 06:28.43 | Noodleman | :'( |
| 06:28.51 | SilverFox | the only question is if it is dying close enough to the list server that its owner can deal w/it. |
| 06:29.03 | SilverFox | I doubt it though, since most of us seem to be fine. |
| 06:29.22 | SilverFox | when I log into a map, most everyone has a +, so they are working too. |
| 06:29.42 | Noodleman | feh |
| 06:29.54 | Noodleman | pinging it works from another machine i can log in to |
| 06:30.10 | SilverFox | heh |
| 06:30.17 | Noodleman | not really |
| 06:30.21 | Noodleman | that would be messy |
| 06:30.45 | SilverFox | must be that deny noodleman any statement on the bz firewall. |
| 06:31.28 | Noodleman | those kneelickers |
| 06:31.53 | SilverFox | I'm rather unsure what that means, but it frightens me. |
| 06:32.12 | Noodleman | knee + licker == kneelicker == one who licks knees |
| 06:32.19 | Noodleman | it's not that complicated :-P |
| 06:33.11 | SilverFox | still frightens me. |
| 06:33.15 | Noodleman | hehehe |
| 06:33.18 | Noodleman | my job is done |
| 06:33.37 | Manu | SilverFox: long time no see, and you Noodleman too :) |
| 06:35.06 | Noodleman | may the Spork be with you |
| 06:36.00 | Manu | :) |
| 06:38.08 | Noodleman | SilverFox: sshhh, you weren't supposed to let that get out... |
| 06:38.52 | Manu | SilverFox: you mean weird? |
| 06:39.06 | SilverFox | Manu, yeah, wierd. |
| 06:39.34 | Manu | now so wierd as you :p |
| 06:39.38 | Noodleman | no, he meant "wired" |
| 06:39.49 | Manu | heh |
| 06:39.50 | SilverFox | yeah, thats what I said, wierd. |
| 06:39.51 | Noodleman | Noodleman is "wired" |
| 06:40.20 | Noodleman | i must be if i'm up and it's this late |
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| 07:08.49 | Flash | cosmos, are you listening? |
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| 07:39.30 | L4m3r | awww, someone squelched the poor wittle nintendo fanboy |
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| 08:14.03 | SilverFox | what happened to AutoHunt.h ? |
| 08:24.43 | brlcad | it got wired apparently |
| 08:26.34 | brlcad | File: AutoHunt.h Status: Up-to-date |
| 08:30.01 | Manu | heh |
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| 09:15.35 | a_temp_dist | some spam to take care of http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=90322#90322 |
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| 09:44.44 | quantumdot | my.bzflag.org seems to be down, it is correct or is it only me who sees it down? |
| 09:51.44 | brad | doesn't work for me either qd |
| 09:53.59 | quantumdot | thanks brad |
| 09:54.05 | quantumdot | good to see you :) |
| 09:54.24 | quantumdot | brad have a min? pm |
| 10:28.50 | brlcad | looking into it |
| 10:29.58 | brlcad | huh, apache's just sitting there and won't respond on 80 |
| 10:33.05 | brlcad | quantumdot|brad: should be fixed now |
| 10:35.07 | quantumdot | thx brlcad it's fixed |
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| 14:09.15 | quantumdot | brlcad: i hate to bother you, but my.bz is down again |
| 14:11.47 | DTRemenak | what fun. seems apache died and will not restart. |
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| 14:37.53 | essy | m.b.o up and down a lot todya |
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| 15:40.48 | a_meteorite | *sigh* *wishes he wasn't sick and could go to school* |
| 15:40.49 | a_meteorite | :( |
| 15:41.04 | a_meteorite | even for no friends, this is pretty boring right now.. |
| 15:41.13 | Erroneous | play bzflag ;) |
| 15:41.49 | a_meteorite | yeah, I will :) |
| 15:42.13 | a_meteorite | they better not drop my grade for being sick. my mom called in. but you gotta realize how many kids cut school cause they're "sick"... |
| 15:45.11 | a_meteorite | wow, only one teacher posts the homework online. |
| 15:45.13 | a_meteorite | absolutely sad. |
| 15:45.51 | a_meteorite | Erroneous: where do you like to play? |
| 15:46.22 | Erroneous | a_meteorite: been a while since I've looked... |
| 15:46.26 | a_meteorite | same |
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| 17:48.29 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you around? |
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| 18:18.33 | essy | he hides |
| 18:41.06 | brlcad | JeffM2501: yeah |
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| 19:07.49 | a_meteorite | ~logs |
| 19:07.51 | ibot | i guess logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
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| 19:32.44 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, is your 17inch laptop realy too big to lug around? |
| 19:34.33 | JeffM2501 | as I'm about to make my descision and I'm trying to decide if it's worth 250$ more for the 17 |
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| 20:24.40 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: ping |
| 20:24.50 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 20:24.55 | Thumper_ | hi Jeff |
| 20:25.07 | Thumper_ | can I get another global group setup if you have time? |
| 20:25.20 | JeffM2501 | just post it in the fourm for it |
| 20:25.26 | Thumper_ | ok thanks |
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| 20:27.45 | SpazzyMcGee | hi all. |
| 20:28.41 | SpazzyMcGee | does anybody have the Wings3D exporter? the link in the thread is now dead. |
| 20:34.45 | JeffM2501 | you can't just use modeltool? |
| 20:35.22 | SpazzyMcGee | i diddn't think it worked on mac? |
| 20:35.29 | JeffM2501 | sure it does |
| 20:35.37 | JeffM2501 | it's a normal command line ap |
| 20:35.55 | SpazzyMcGee | is it at bzbb? |
| 20:36.35 | JeffM2501 | it's part of the sources |
| 20:37.05 | SpazzyMcGee | ok |
| 20:37.29 | SpazzyMcGee | does it do UV mapping and all? |
| 20:37.40 | JeffM2501 | if there are uv maps in the obj, sure |
| 20:38.29 | SpazzyMcGee | ok. cheers jeff. |
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| 22:08.32 | Cybodog | fwiw, silvercat is lag crazy |
| 22:08.37 | Cybodog | dos? |
| 22:08.57 | Cybodog | give me like 1205ms lag and normaly I am at like 57 to 120 |
| 22:09.15 | Cybodog | 12 people on it, all went lag nuts |
| 22:09.43 | Cybodog | I feel better by sharing, thanks for listening |
| 22:09.54 | a_meteorite | um ok |
| 22:10.16 | Cybodog | I feel people don't take me seriously and never listen |
| 22:10.28 | Cybodog | what do you think? |
| 22:10.33 | a_meteorite | I think everyone would find out when they joined ;) |
| 22:10.43 | Cybodog | lol |
| 22:10.59 | Cybodog | I figur3d mabybe an admin would be here, one who could tough the box even |
| 22:11.39 | Cybodog | I was realy thinking of secret place, that used to be the server data base box also |
| 22:13.41 | Cybodog | it is working now, go figure |
| 22:13.49 | Cybodog | one guy had like a 6 sec lag |
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| 22:15.49 | supertanker | "The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step" |
| 22:16.02 | supertanker | About time I finally took that step |
| 22:16.22 | blast007 | "You take one step forward: You find bear trap, skip one roll" |
| 22:16.29 | supertanker | lol |
| 22:16.40 | supertanker | I took the step an bought "Drawing for Dummies" |
| 22:17.56 | supertanker | and I manged to find the only copy of a Chevelle album AND the Acoustic Alchemy album AArt (Which usually you have to reserve) in the entire music area of Borders. |
| 22:18.05 | supertanker | so yesterday was fun |
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