| 00:05.46 | JeffM2501 | did you tell him he's the reason for the downfall of bzflag? |
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| 01:19.59 | Z6 | is there anyway to make bases shoot through? everytime i turn it on it turns itself off |
| 01:21.20 | A_Heart_Attack | turn what on? |
| 01:21.39 | A_Heart_Attack | oh |
| 01:21.48 | A_Heart_Attack | bzedit right? |
| 01:21.50 | A_Heart_Attack | hmm |
| 01:21.52 | A_Heart_Attack | it shouldnt |
| 01:22.30 | Z6 | yea:D |
| 01:22.43 | Z6 | hey you host servers right? |
| 01:23.09 | A_Heart_Attack | yes... |
| 01:23.26 | Z6 | you looking for more maps :D? |
| 01:23.31 | A_Heart_Attack | umm |
| 01:23.51 | A_Heart_Attack | i look for people who need hosting |
| 01:23.53 | A_Heart_Attack | not maps |
| 01:24.03 | A_Heart_Attack | and i might be able to host for you |
| 01:24.14 | Z6 | cool |
| 01:24.29 | Z6 | okay anyways, first things first |
| 01:24.53 | Z6 | any idea why it is turning itself off? |
| 01:24.57 | A_Heart_Attack | nope |
| 01:25.58 | Z6 | are your servers based out of US or euro |
| 01:27.59 | A_Heart_Attack | US |
| 01:27.59 | Z6 | ah cool |
| 01:27.59 | A_Heart_Attack | near washignton DC i think |
| 01:28.35 | Z6 | cool |
| 01:28.48 | Z6 | you have aim or msn? |
| 01:29.26 | A_Heart_Attack | yup |
| 01:29.35 | Z6 | cool, which one:D? |
| 01:29.55 | A_Heart_Attack | ain |
| 01:29.57 | A_Heart_Attack | *aim |
| 01:29.58 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 01:30.23 | Z6 | whats your? mine is "iamz6" its ok, i know im creative =D |
| 01:30.33 | A_Heart_Attack | bzheartattack |
| 01:30.34 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 01:30.53 | Z6 | ah ur as creative as me:D |
| 01:31.11 | A_Heart_Attack | i know |
| 01:31.53 | Z6 | you on now? |
| 01:31.56 | A_Heart_Attack | no |
| 01:32.06 | Z6 | ah ok |
| 01:33.28 | A_Heart_Attack | one sec ill go on |
| 01:33.32 | A_Heart_Attack | nvm |
| 01:33.34 | A_Heart_Attack | i cant |
| 01:33.43 | A_Heart_Attack | my aim doesnt work on this computer |
| 01:34.15 | Z6 | lol ok |
| 01:34.57 | A_Heart_Attack | ok im bored, im leaving |
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| 01:36.15 | Z6 | anybody know how to configure the bzfs for ctf? |
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| 01:38.18 | JeffM2501 | how many partitions can you do per drive? |
| 01:38.26 | JeffM2501 | aka how many OSs can I get per drive |
| 01:38.28 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, 4 normal ones |
| 01:38.48 | Gnurdux | but one can be extended, and can hold a lot, like 16 or something insidei t |
| 01:40.37 | JeffM2501 | is it ok to install OSs in the extended? |
| 01:43.47 | inchworm | JeffM2501: remember your swap space per OS... |
| 01:44.05 | inchworm | per unix OS at least |
| 01:50.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah gig per |
| 01:50.52 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, yes it is |
| 01:50.56 | JeffM2501 | oh yeah it needs a partiion |
| 01:51.02 | JeffM2501 | they can't share? |
| 01:51.10 | Gnurdux | any OS installer should set that stuff up automatically |
| 01:51.32 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, depends on the OS... *bsds might accept linux swap |
| 01:51.43 | JeffM2501 | well I have 3 drives |
| 01:51.46 | JeffM2501 | so hope I'll be ok |
| 01:59.48 | JeffM2501 | brlcad any OS sugestions? |
| 02:03.36 | inchworm | You didn't ask but that never stopped free advice... Solaris 10 is interesting, FreeBSD has the best x86 BSD support... |
| 02:03.59 | inchworm | not sure how swap works in BSD |
| 02:03.59 | JeffM2501 | not to use, to build clients on |
| 02:04.07 | JeffM2501 | solaris don't give a crap about :) |
| 02:04.18 | inchworm | that's why i couln't get it to compile there... |
| 02:04.18 | JeffM2501 | I think I have acccess to bsd via bzflag.bz |
| 02:05.08 | inchworm | wouldn't help anyway..they don't have agpgart support for x86 in sol10 |
| 02:08.38 | JeffM2501 | so build one |
| 02:08.43 | inchworm | 32 meg ram on a p90 makes an extremely slow compile w/ alot of swapping |
| 02:08.56 | inchworm | but that is just an excuse i imagine |
| 02:09.04 | JeffM2501 | so you do it once |
| 02:09.06 | JeffM2501 | let it run |
| 02:09.07 | JeffM2501 | sleep |
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| 02:09.14 | JeffM2501 | wake up it's done |
| 02:09.19 | inchworm | wasn't done after running it over night |
| 02:09.31 | JeffM2501 | then let it run 2 nights |
| 02:09.33 | inchworm | that was without compiling the client |
| 02:09.35 | Z6 | anyonw know where i can get a list of conf commands? |
| 02:09.43 | JeffM2501 | man bzfs |
| 02:10.07 | Z6 | huh..? =/ |
| 02:10.15 | inchworm | JeffM2501: you are right, i was just tiried of hearing my old hard drives swap that much |
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| 02:10.46 | JeffM2501 | z6 in the manual |
| 02:10.49 | JeffM2501 | what OS are you on? |
| 02:10.53 | Z6 | ah ok |
| 02:10.58 | Z6 | winXP |
| 02:11.02 | JeffM2501 | start menu |
| 02:11.04 | JeffM2501 | bzflag |
| 02:11.08 | JeffM2501 | docs |
| 02:11.11 | JeffM2501 | bzfs.html |
| 02:11.17 | Z6 | k:D ty |
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| 03:49.26 | brlcad | JeffM2501: OS suggestions? |
| 03:49.52 | JeffM2501 | for building bins |
| 03:49.53 | brlcad | depends on the purpose.. .bz is bsd |
| 03:52.07 | JeffM2501 | should I be able to build a client bin there? |
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| 03:55.20 | brlcad | actually, not really.. missing the opengl stuff |
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| 04:06.50 | I_Died_Once | http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1222/cannabis4bw.jpg |
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| 04:16.34 | JeffM2501 | freebsd or netbsd better? |
| 04:18.27 | JeffM2501 | and anyone know if fedora has a net install? |
| 04:18.39 | brlcad | depends for what purpose.. netbsd is generally the portability king -- freebsd adapts faster and usually has the latest stuff |
| 04:18.59 | JeffM2501 | it's just to build a bin for this tourny thing |
| 04:19.18 | JeffM2501 | have a 2.8gig celly that I wasn't using, gonna load up some OSs on it |
| 04:23.10 | brlcad | the bsd playing bzflaggers isn't a prime demand last i checked |
| 04:23.20 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 04:23.29 | JeffM2501 | and I can build server bins on .bz right? |
| 04:23.34 | brlcad | it's not nil, but I'd wait until someone asks |
| 04:23.43 | brlcad | yeah, server bins are no trouble |
| 04:23.56 | JeffM2501 | well I was gonna do a FC, debian, and suse on this thing |
| 04:24.02 | JeffM2501 | figure that should get the major linuxes |
| 04:24.15 | JeffM2501 | tho if I link it all static one bin should work for all right? |
| 04:26.36 | brlcad | for most.. depends on the version of the system libraries you link against (like glibc, templates) |
| 04:27.14 | JeffM2501 | can you static link those? |
| 04:27.34 | JeffM2501 | or do they tie into the kernel |
| 04:27.59 | brlcad | even if you do, if the abi is different, it will be incompatible |
| 04:28.15 | brlcad | by large, it will just work |
| 04:28.34 | JeffM2501 | well that's good |
| 04:28.47 | JeffM2501 | getting a debian and fc now |
| 04:28.59 | JeffM2501 | I can start with those and see what dosn't work after that then |
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| 04:29.42 | JeffM2501 | just have to test a release build with 2 players it should be ready for working out the nix build |
| 04:31.55 | JeffM2501 | for nix I was just thinking of making a bzflagTE bin that could run from the users home dir, and find the shared data path |
| 04:32.00 | JeffM2501 | think that will work ok? |
| 04:34.06 | brlcad | sure why not |
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| 06:19.41 | osofete | hi, I run Fedora 4 - I can't move beyond "entering game..." when -solo |
| 06:19.45 | osofete | help plz |
| 06:34.29 | JeffM2501 | what version? |
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| 12:02.29 | LePoulpe303 | anyone has an idea why i cant' connect any more on the (excellent) brad's Gu style servers ? |
| 12:02.46 | LePoulpe303 | it goes till "Global Login approved" and stay there |
| 12:03.11 | LePoulpe303 | i cant' see any players |
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| 12:35.36 | Birdie | it works again lepoulpe |
| 12:36.24 | LePoulpe303 | oh ok tx birdie |
| 12:36.52 | Birdie | :) |
| 12:38.27 | LePoulpe303 | Birdie: always nothin on bzflag0.gu.brad.bz :( |
| 12:46.58 | Birdie | hmm |
| 12:47.32 | Birdie | i can join there |
| 12:48.14 | LePoulpe303 | i can't :S |
| 12:48.25 | Birdie | it didnt said your banned right?:) |
| 12:48.38 | LePoulpe303 | nope |
| 12:48.40 | LePoulpe303 | :) |
| 12:48.49 | Birdie | can you join into other servers? |
| 12:48.56 | LePoulpe303 | except if now politics are to ban bad players |
| 12:49.02 | LePoulpe303 | yes |
| 12:49.13 | Birdie | ugh |
| 12:49.33 | Birdie | i'll go look for a ban though, you never know your caught in a range |
| 12:49.33 | LePoulpe303 | it was working a few days ago |
| 12:50.02 | LePoulpe303 | hmm must give you my ip |
| 12:50.45 | Birdie | i saw you logged in |
| 12:50.53 | LePoulpe303 | :S |
| 12:50.54 | Birdie | (not banned) |
| 12:52.06 | Birdie | i really dunno |
| 12:52.28 | Birdie | and it happens only there.. |
| 12:52.37 | LePoulpe303 | yeah |
| 12:52.38 | Birdie | maybe its a block from you work to connect to that serverip;) |
| 12:53.18 | Pommes | Yeah - probably they found out what you're doing all day ... |
| 12:53.20 | LePoulpe303 | yu mean ? firewall ? |
| 12:54.33 | LePoulpe303 | M*th*rf*ck*rs !!! |
| 12:55.20 | Pommes | Ssssh ! They're watching you! |
| 12:55.35 | LePoulpe303 | they can't ! SSH powa ! |
| 12:55.49 | Pommes | But yon can't play via ssh, can you? |
| 12:56.08 | LePoulpe303 | nope ; i can only contro;l my home pc from work |
| 12:56.13 | Pommes | :) same what I do here |
| 12:57.04 | LePoulpe303 | seriously Birdie you think that a security parameter could cause this symptom ? only on brad server N |
| 12:58.03 | LePoulpe303 | because i'm spied when i go on bzforums , i know it |
| 12:58.06 | LePoulpe303 | but it's www |
| 12:58.53 | ToughShooter | It could be a ban.. |
| 12:59.38 | LePoulpe303 | :'( |
| 12:59.49 | LePoulpe303 | ok |
| 12:59.51 | ToughShooter | idban or host perhaps |
| 12:59.55 | LePoulpe303 | i must say it |
| 13:00.05 | LePoulpe303 | sometimes i leave server without saying goodbye |
| 13:00.06 | ToughShooter | Server doesn't always tell the people when they are banned |
| 13:00.42 | LePoulpe303 | but isn't it a rude punishment fot tthat ? |
| 13:04.39 | ToughShooter | A host ban often bans more than just one |
| 13:05.37 | LePoulpe303 | ok ; i must msg brad to ask him to unban me then |
| 13:06.01 | ToughShooter | It's not sure that you are banned, just sounds most likely |
| 13:08.37 | LePoulpe303 | brad : ping , pang, pong ? |
| 13:08.43 | LePoulpe303 | (let's try that) |
| 13:10.36 | brad | hi LePoulpe303 |
| 13:11.50 | LePoulpe303 | hi brad :) |
| 13:12.19 | LePoulpe303 | it seems that i have been banned from bzflag0.gu.brad.bz |
| 13:12.27 | brad | I'll check, 2 secs |
| 13:12.34 | LePoulpe303 | ty |
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| 13:13.42 | brad | LePoulpe303: the IP you're using now? |
| 13:13.51 | LePoulpe303 | brad : nope |
| 13:13.54 | brad | ah |
| 13:13.57 | LePoulpe303 | brad : wait i connect |
| 13:14.09 | brad | could you PM me the IP then |
| 13:14.24 | LePoulpe303 | oh ok |
| 13:14.37 | brad | nvm got it :) |
| 13:14.45 | LePoulpe303 | you're da king |
| 13:15.11 | LePoulpe303 | if you unban me i promise i'll say "hello" and "goodbye" now |
| 13:15.48 | brad | you're definitely not on any ban list |
| 13:15.54 | LePoulpe303 | :S |
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| 13:16.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 13:16.01 | brad | unless you bzbb ID is 6110 |
| 13:16.04 | brad | your* |
| 13:16.14 | A_Heart_Attack | hey SportChick |
| 13:16.14 | LePoulpe303 | dunno |
| 13:16.52 | brad | should be hmm it appears not |
| 13:17.12 | brad | global login works fine aswell because you get a + |
| 13:17.23 | LePoulpe303 | where do i get my bzbb ID ? can't see it in profile |
| 13:17.37 | brad | it's in the URL |
| 13:17.43 | brad | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1686 |
| 13:17.50 | brad | 1686 ^ |
| 13:18.04 | A_Heart_Attack | can u find mine? |
| 13:18.18 | SportChick | hi there A_Heart_Attack |
| 13:18.33 | brad | just go to your profile A_Heart_Attack |
| 13:18.37 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 13:18.38 | A_Heart_Attack | fine |
| 13:18.57 | brad | LePoulpe303: I can't say I know why :/ |
| 13:19.13 | brad | I remember having that problem at secret place a while ago |
| 13:19.19 | A_Heart_Attack | http://my.bzflag.bz/bb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9736 |
| 13:19.33 | A_Heart_Attack | 9736 |
| 13:19.36 | A_Heart_Attack | :D |
| 13:20.10 | LePoulpe303 | wow ; even in ID i have a pathetic score |
| 13:20.11 | brad | j/k |
| 13:20.30 | brad | heh |
| 13:21.26 | Pommes | perhaps you could try to connect from outside your company-network ... |
| 13:21.49 | brad | yeah, although I still don't see what the problem is |
| 13:22.09 | LePoulpe303 | Pommes: i wonder if login succeeded yesterday evening ; i don't remember :( |
| 13:24.01 | LePoulpe303 | ok brad i'll try this evening from home ; we will seee |
| 13:24.20 | Pommes | you'll better stay friend with your firewall-admin ;-) |
| 13:24.35 | LePoulpe303 | Pommes: it's an external company |
| 13:24.39 | Pommes | ah |
| 13:24.47 | LePoulpe303 | f*cked |
| 13:25.04 | brad | ok LePoulpe303 |
| 13:25.43 | ToughShooter | brad: Also not hostbanned? |
| 13:26.10 | brad | ohh didn't check, hang on |
| 13:26.14 | LePoulpe303 | brad: i can't connect with an alias so it's an IP thing |
| 13:26.28 | brad | nope nothin on there |
| 13:26.32 | ToughShooter | Aww |
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| 15:22.22 | SportChick | brad: what problem did you have at secretplace? |
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| 16:21.57 | A_Heart_Attack | morning jeff |
| 16:22.48 | [NP]Tangent | hi AHA |
| 16:22.51 | A_Heart_Attack | hey |
| 16:23.42 | JeffM2501 | word |
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| 16:41.22 | A_Heart_Attack | 'moring everyone |
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| 19:51.23 | spldart | finally got a decent match going on my brand knew ctf map... seems to play decent... And had my first ban... 'axl rose' cussing, tking, and delivering team flag to the enemy. |
| 19:52.46 | I_Died_Once | tk's and team caps - the cardinal sin |
| 19:52.56 | [NP]Tangent | ah |
| 19:53.01 | [NP]Tangent | axl rose should be globally banned |
| 19:53.07 | [NP]Tangent | had them on my server a few days ago |
| 19:53.17 | [NP]Tangent | banned them for having an innappropriate email string |
| 19:53.27 | spldart | oh yeah.. |
| 19:53.29 | A_Meteorite | [NP]Tangent: masterbans come far and few inbetween |
| 19:53.36 | spldart | his email string was pretty.... course |
| 19:53.43 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 19:53.49 | [NP]Tangent | it probably had "cunt" in it, didn't it? |
| 19:53.49 | I_Died_Once | what was it???? |
| 19:53.57 | spldart | And I'm always trying to stay children safge |
| 19:53.58 | A_Meteorite | uhhh language... |
| 19:53.58 | [NP]Tangent | because all three he used on my server did |
| 19:54.08 | [NP]Tangent | sorry Meteorite |
| 19:54.12 | spldart | every sex appendage name you could think of.. |
| 19:54.15 | A_Meteorite | give me his IP and I can lower the golden axe on him |
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| 19:54.21 | spldart | and yes C*** was in it |
| 19:54.27 | [NP]Tangent | yeah, spldart, same on mine |
| 19:54.31 | [NP]Tangent | that's why we banned him |
| 19:54.36 | [NP]Tangent | AHA might have been there when he was on |
| 19:54.42 | spldart | I guess I'll make my ban permenant |
| 19:54.48 | spldart | I gave him 1 momtn |
| 19:54.51 | spldart | month |
| 19:54.53 | [NP]Tangent | Heart attack, were on my server when axl rose was on? |
| 19:54.58 | A_Heart_Attack | umm |
| 19:55.01 | A_Heart_Attack | i thinks so |
| 19:55.02 | spldart | I'll get it in a sec |
| 19:55.03 | A_Heart_Attack | *think |
| 19:55.09 | [NP]Tangent | I gave him a day, he never showed up again |
| 19:56.08 | spldart | Player axl rose [4] has joined from 24.177.58.131 |
| 19:57.05 | spldart | I have swear filter on so I'm only now seeing all the crap he said cuz i'm in the logfile |
| 19:57.36 | A_Meteorite | ahh.. it's so fun to ban people like these :) |
| 19:57.55 | spldart | esp while they are right there wreaking havoc |
| 19:58.02 | spldart | player axl rose has quit |
| 19:58.05 | spldart | LOL |
| 19:58.13 | A_Meteorite | yeah... time for some banination |
| 19:58.48 | spldart | I often put a colorful ban message in the banfile for them to read if they try to join :) |
| 19:58.55 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 19:59.04 | [NP]Tangent | I remember I had to kick a girl off my server because she said all arabs should die |
| 19:59.10 | [NP]Tangent | dunno who all was online during that |
| 19:59.15 | spldart | 8-X |
| 19:59.30 | [NP]Tangent | yeah, it was when Squall kept PMing Tanner, "I HATE YOU!" |
| 19:59.48 | [NP]Tangent | and then I think Carrot said "it's cuz you're arab" |
| 19:59.56 | [NP]Tangent | and then the one girl started ranting |
| 20:00.00 | spldart | yikes |
| 20:00.13 | [NP]Tangent | of course, Carrot was joking |
| 20:00.21 | [NP]Tangent | and he only mentioned it that once |
| 20:00.39 | spldart | I just think the bad people of every race should die... You know... Child molesters, rapists, etc |
| 20:01.03 | A_Meteorite | let's put them all on an island and drop a nuke |
| 20:01.22 | [NP]Tangent | <insert Australia joke here> |
| 20:01.24 | A_Meteorite | spldart: you forgot murderers :P |
| 20:01.38 | [NP]Tangent | spldart, you also forgot Meteorites |
| 20:01.47 | spldart | George Carlin " fence them in and watch them kill each other. Put in on pay per view: |
| 20:02.00 | spldart | :-D |
| 20:02.13 | spldart | etc = all the other reall baddies |
| 20:06.36 | brlcad | axel rose.. there's a name I haven't heard in a really long time |
| 20:06.53 | A_Meteorite | BAN HIM! |
| 20:06.56 | A_Meteorite | OFF WITH HIS HEAD |
| 20:06.58 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 20:07.01 | A_Heart_Attack | ... |
| 20:07.07 | CBG | he's on the mofo-masterban-list |
| 20:07.13 | A_Heart_Attack | really? |
| 20:07.18 | CBG | Sure is. |
| 20:07.20 | A_Meteorite | is his IP static? |
| 20:07.36 | CBG | I guess we'll soon find out. |
| 20:07.48 | A_Meteorite | well, I banned him practically anywhere I can... |
| 20:07.58 | A_Meteorite | (which is quite a bit) |
| 20:08.02 | CBG | A_Meteorite: wanna do me a favour? |
| 20:08.07 | A_Meteorite | sure |
| 20:08.16 | spldart | Does anyone know if he floats ip? |
| 20:08.21 | A_Meteorite | floats IP? |
| 20:08.32 | CBG | Can you ban him at my 3 servers (cbg.bzflag.org, on the list) for perma, or as long as you can, please? :) |
| 20:08.34 | uso_p | probably dynamic if you look at the reverse lookup |
| 20:08.35 | spldart | around the same subnet-dialup or static.. |
| 20:08.51 | A_Meteorite | sure |
| 20:09.02 | CBG | I should really restart those servers with the mofo ban list loaded, but that's difficult till I get my iBook back.. |
| 20:09.15 | A_Meteorite | oh yeah, actiontanks is dead |
| 20:09.19 | A_Meteorite | don't need that anymore :P |
| 20:09.26 | A_Meteorite | unless you want too |
| 20:09.27 | CBG | Ok, can you superkill? |
| 20:09.49 | CBG | well, you can probably kill the process from beeps server, if you like. |
| 20:09.56 | CBG | Otherwise it'll have to wait a couple of days. |
| 20:09.57 | A_Meteorite | nah, that's OK :P |
| 20:10.04 | A_Meteorite | it won't hurt anything |
| 20:10.08 | CBG | yeah :) |
| 20:12.47 | spldart | what is a permanent ban time now? It used to be Time=0 a long time ago |
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| 20:13.05 | spldart | I was going through my other servers |
| 20:14.02 | CBG | spldart: still time = 0 |
| 20:15.21 | spldart | hrm.. 2.0.9 gave me an invalid time warning... but lemme try again formatted as you have it |
| 20:15.29 | uso_p | also 100 years may be enough, ipv4 is probably gone at this time |
| 20:15.49 | CBG | just /ban "naughty person" 0 Don't be naughty! |
| 20:16.01 | CBG | don't actually say "time = ".. :) |
| 20:16.45 | spldart | Ah.. the old version required the time |
| 20:17.04 | spldart | welll got him for half a million minutes now so I'll call that good enough :) |
| 20:19.27 | CBG | heh |
| 20:23.00 | spldart | lol... he tried to rejoin.... player removed /ban |
| 20:23.05 | spldart | Hehe |
| 20:23.51 | spldart | I'm a naughty little server god :evil: |
| 20:25.42 | [NP]Tangent | I'm a naughty little... uh... former mIRC pro |
| 20:25.50 | [NP]Tangent | dude, I used to OWN that irc client |
| 20:25.53 | [NP]Tangent | now I use xchat |
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| 20:36.56 | spldart | :) |
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| 20:42.36 | spldart | eek |
| 20:44.09 | Mr_Molez | who cares |
| 20:45.29 | CBG | Gnurdux: why..? |
| 20:45.37 | Gnurdux | just curious lol |
| 20:45.48 | Gnurdux | bout how (in)active he really is |
| 20:46.01 | CBG | My Riker's the maintainer, doesn't have to be commiting code everyday. |
| 20:46.30 | brlcad | Gnurdux: you assumedly saw the statcvs activity graph like everyone else |
| 20:46.32 | CBG | I'm sure he has a real life to, this is just a hobby, like with all the devs. They get nothing in return and could not have the time to spare right now. |
| 20:46.44 | Gnurdux | but if he's totally inactive, maybe JeffM2501 should be the maintainer |
| 20:46.55 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501 has a nice job where he has plenty of time to work on BZ |
| 20:46.59 | Mr_Molez | jeff gets too involved, he aint cut out for the job |
| 20:46.59 | brlcad | if you really care, his last commit can be pulled from the cvs mailing list easily enough |
| 20:47.02 | Gnurdux | whereas Tim, as you say, has a life |
| 20:47.03 | CBG | He's not toally inactive, he's here now. |
| 20:47.04 | brlcad | or directly from cvs |
| 20:47.13 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, i might not like JeffM2501 but he's the best candidate |
| 20:47.35 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: he will be inactive in a year or so.. then some 1 else will be more active |
| 20:47.48 | CBG | Gnurdux: why does it even matter who is "maintainer"? |
| 20:48.03 | Gnurdux | maintainers cane get stuff DONE |
| 20:48.07 | CBG | Will Mr Riker commit more if his title is revoked? I think not. |
| 20:48.09 | CBG | How so? |
| 20:48.20 | Gnurdux | devs listen to them |
| 20:48.32 | CBG | Doesn't mean they can do more. |
| 20:48.46 | Mr_Molez | i say gnurdux should be the new maintainer !! |
| 20:48.47 | CBG | That's totally dependant on their drive, available time, etc. |
| 20:49.14 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, LOL i'd like to be but i can't do much, and i dont know crap |
| 20:49.33 | CBG | "Omg, I'm gonna call myself maintainer and get a weeks worth of homework done in half the time!" |
| 20:49.51 | Gnurdux | and i wouldn't test anything, id be like YAY RELEASE TIME oh whoopps didn't notice that clients crash after 2 minutes! |
| 20:50.39 | A_Heart_Attack | ha ha ur impulsivity |
| 20:50.59 | CBG | It's true, Jeff does give a lot of his time to bzflag, but so do other devs, we just "see" Jeff to be more active because he's the main admin on the forums, the main OP here, etc. |
| 20:51.36 | Mr_Molez | yay gnurdux the bestest ever maintainer ! |
| 20:53.10 | Gnurdux | CBG, he's also been very active recently |
| 20:53.37 | Gnurdux | and most powerful other than TimRiker at the moment as far as i can tell |
| 20:54.06 | CBG | Sure, recently. Next week he could be the busiest guy on the planet and not commit at all, whereas Mr Riker may have hours free next week and commit hundreds of time each day. |
| 20:54.46 | brlcad | all the devs time fluctuates greatly, ebb and flow |
| 20:55.09 | brlcad | some more than others |
| 20:55.59 | brlcad | scroll to the bottom of http://bzflag.bz/statcvs/authors.html and you can see just how much it fluctuates :) |
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| 20:57.15 | brlcad | 2.0 apparently sucked the life out of a lot of us |
| 20:58.04 | brlcad | or there was at least too much diversion on other stuff like league matters, cheaters, moving the list server, etc |
| 20:58.27 | Mr_Molez | k |
| 20:58.46 | Mr_Molez | 2.x sucks... 1.10.8 is where its at |
| 20:59.05 | spldart | 8-/ |
| 20:59.13 | brlcad | under the hood, it's not really that different |
| 20:59.20 | spldart | true |
| 20:59.29 | CBG | just new spoiler and sound system? :) |
| 20:59.38 | brlcad | something like that |
| 20:59.42 | spldart | and a cold air intake |
| 20:59.44 | Mr_Molez | im still not sure i like the global id system |
| 21:00.35 | brlcad | so don't use it |
| 21:00.55 | spldart | I so hope bzflag doesn't die :-( |
| 21:01.03 | Mr_Molez | it deserves to :P |
| 21:01.16 | brlcad | bzflag will never die |
| 21:01.25 | brlcad | such is the nature of open source |
| 21:01.40 | spldart | It doesn't deserve to |
| 21:01.44 | brlcad | as long as there is probably two people willing to play |
| 21:02.09 | brlcad | what determines whether a game "deserves" anything? it's just a game, people like it, they play |
| 21:02.17 | Mr_Molez | cant bzflag find some way to make money and hire a full time coder |
| 21:02.25 | spldart | I've been into bzflag since roughly 3/24/05 and still haven't shaken the bug |
| 21:02.26 | CBG | people love it, they don't stop playing it |
| 21:02.52 | spldart | some much longer of course |
| 21:02.58 | brlcad | Mr_Molez: the game by itself can't do anything.. now YOU could try to find some way to make money and hire a full time coder |
| 21:03.03 | CBG | I've been playing almost 2 years, still loving it more every day. |
| 21:03.04 | brlcad | or anyone for that matter, it's a community |
| 21:03.54 | spldart | is bzflag still limited to a set of rules or bounds that it needs to follow as it develops? |
| 21:04.08 | brlcad | heck, I'm sure there are several devs that'd consider quitting their job if they could work on bzflag all day every day and not have to worry about senseless things like bills |
| 21:04.36 | Manu | brlcad: and the food for the kids ;) |
| 21:04.50 | spldart | Yeah.. All 5 of 'em |
| 21:05.06 | brlcad | spldart: i'd say yes .. just what those bounds are is usually driven by the project's vision and those leading development (or the maintainer should it be the case) |
| 21:05.09 | spldart | all 5 of which play bz time to time |
| 21:05.12 | Mr_Molez | i think the best way to make money is to add feature to bzflag so everyone can have their own tank colours/styles.. and its global so everyone can see it |
| 21:05.15 | Gnurdux | brlcad, yep :P but JeffM2501 seems to have plenty of time during work |
| 21:05.19 | Gnurdux | thats the awesome thing |
| 21:05.27 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, then how do you do color teams? |
| 21:05.34 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 21:05.40 | Gnurdux | i wish servers could supply tank textures |
| 21:05.44 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: ok, styles ;) |
| 21:05.49 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, you work on bzflag while your at work |
| 21:05.52 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, why cus youw ant to see porn? |
| 21:05.53 | spldart | lol |
| 21:05.57 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, when other tests are running |
| 21:06.00 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, still you could disguise your color |
| 21:06.11 | brlcad | Gnurdux: it comes and goes |
| 21:06.17 | brlcad | i wouldn't take it for granted in the least |
| 21:06.19 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, your right, thats a good point.... mofo would put up tons of porn |
| 21:06.22 | Gnurdux | j/k |
| 21:06.29 | JeffM2501 | it's been talked about |
| 21:06.31 | Gnurdux | but htye wanted to for april fools day |
| 21:06.42 | JeffM2501 | ti'll probably done after the net setup |
| 21:06.52 | Gnurdux | cool |
| 21:07.02 | Gnurdux | then raise the max number of teams to 8 |
| 21:07.05 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:07.12 | brlcad | a man, a plan, a canal, Panama! |
| 21:07.14 | Gnurdux | a plan!?! A PLAN!?!!! WOW a plan! |
| 21:07.28 | JeffM2501 | hey you heard tim yesterday, I'm planing it ;) |
| 21:07.41 | spldart | I'm a witness |
| 21:07.43 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, he said you were, and you said huh? |
| 21:07.46 | JeffM2501 | I can't see increasing the teams by default |
| 21:07.51 | Mr_Molez | or set up voice support and charge for it /me coughs |
| 21:07.55 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, dude I said "huh" at my wedding |
| 21:08.02 | [NP]Tangent | dude |
| 21:08.06 | [NP]Tangent | 8-team CTF would rock |
| 21:08.07 | spldart | LOL |
| 21:08.09 | JeffM2501 | I can see leting the API define how team behavors work |
| 21:08.17 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, it would be cool if default teams were red green blue purple, but the server could specify up to 8 color teams |
| 21:08.18 | spldart | It would get confusing :eek" |
| 21:08.19 | Gnurdux | or somehting |
| 21:08.21 | JeffM2501 | so you can use plugins to make something like custom teams |
| 21:08.34 | Gnurdux | louman's the hive would be awesome as a 6-team CTF map |
| 21:08.42 | Gnurdux | yea, true |
| 21:08.45 | JeffM2501 | once the server can do textures it becomes easyer for the server to do more |
| 21:08.51 | JeffM2501 | but there are bigger fish to fry |
| 21:08.52 | Gnurdux | yea |
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| 21:08.59 | Gnurdux | like death |
| 21:09.20 | Gnurdux | also, someone needs to give bzflag's code a polish |
| 21:10.09 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, make l4m3r a dev |
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| 21:11.21 | JeffM2501 | QA in development actualy |
| 21:11.27 | JeffM2501 | we need some good QA people |
| 21:11.32 | A_Heart_Attack | QA |
| 21:11.33 | A_Heart_Attack | ? |
| 21:11.36 | JeffM2501 | it's tied to dev |
| 21:11.42 | JeffM2501 | Quality Assurance |
| 21:11.47 | A_Heart_Attack | what is that? |
| 21:11.50 | JeffM2501 | basicly make sure that bugs are fixed right |
| 21:11.53 | JeffM2501 | testings |
| 21:11.53 | A_Heart_Attack | oh |
| 21:11.55 | A_Heart_Attack | ;p; |
| 21:11.56 | A_Heart_Attack | *lol |
| 21:12.23 | JeffM2501 | you work in the dev deptarment, you arn't coding, but your involved in the process |
| 21:12.28 | JeffM2501 | it's a good entry point |
| 21:12.30 | uso_p | lol, 8 team ctf, most did not even grok 2 team ctf ;) |
| 21:12.31 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, but someone needs to remove dead and bad code in bzflag |
| 21:12.48 | [NP]Tangent | 8 team CTF would be a riot |
| 21:12.50 | [NP]Tangent | literally |
| 21:12.53 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, umm yeah, so...? |
| 21:12.58 | quantumdot | hehe JeffM2501 go on you almost sold the car |
| 21:13.16 | spldart | a bad riot or good riot?\ |
| 21:13.39 | JeffM2501 | I just know them and know that they may be looking for jobs, tho don't know what we pay here for that |
| 21:13.42 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, that maybe should be first priority: cleaning it up |
| 21:13.46 | JeffM2501 | but it'd not be part time |
| 21:13.52 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux and who's gonna do it? |
| 21:14.08 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, dunno |
| 21:14.11 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 21:14.17 | brlcad | good talent sitting there |
| 21:14.19 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, yeah but I'm closer to them then you are ;) |
| 21:14.23 | Gnurdux | whoever finds it interesting |
| 21:14.35 | Gnurdux | to remove other people's bad stuff, and rewrite it |
| 21:14.37 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, that would be noone, cus if somone found it interesting they would have done it in the past 11 years |
| 21:14.39 | brlcad | JeffM2501: true.. though I probably get cooler toys to play with :) |
| 21:14.40 | A_Heart_Attack | i would do it but i know nothing about coding |
| 21:14.48 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, probably |
| 21:14.54 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, well thats not the most interesting part of programming.. |
| 21:15.00 | JeffM2501 | our QA guy is leaving to go sell machines, so we are looking |
| 21:15.09 | brlcad | biggest downside is the damn location :) |
| 21:15.17 | A_Heart_Attack | who was the QA guy? |
| 21:15.24 | JeffM2501 | Eric |
| 21:15.28 | Gnurdux | A_Heart_Attack, hes talkijng about his co, not bzflag |
| 21:15.38 | A_Heart_Attack | oh |
| 21:15.40 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 21:15.42 | JeffM2501 | he can make more selling then the can as qa if he busts is ass |
| 21:15.55 | Gnurdux | *he |
| 21:16.09 | JeffM2501 | ocean is only about 20 min away from here |
| 21:16.15 | JeffM2501 | so not bad, and we don't get the fog |
| 21:16.39 | JeffM2501 | we are about inbetween the malabu and ventura beaches. |
| 21:16.46 | JeffM2501 | so you get your pick |
| 21:17.04 | JeffM2501 | and about an hour and a half away from a ski mountan |
| 21:17.09 | spldart | OH YEAH! Well I got the... gulf of mexico... :( |
| 21:17.20 | spldart | ;-D |
| 21:17.23 | JeffM2501 | yeah and you have texans ;) |
| 21:17.30 | JeffM2501 | I do not envy you |
| 21:17.50 | spldart | All kidding aside I am very happy here ;) |
| 21:17.58 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 21:18.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah your houses are probably a lot cheaper then they are hear |
| 21:18.12 | JeffM2501 | here |
| 21:18.16 | JeffM2501 | we pay to live here |
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| 21:19.00 | A_Heart_Attack | hey thonolan |
| 21:19.01 | spldart | True on average but I live in a very rich area, good schools for my kids, and pay out the nose... 5 bedrooms is half a million 2/3 to 1/2 million |
| 21:19.16 | Thonolan | A_Heart_Attack: hello |
| 21:19.23 | JeffM2501 | umm that's the price of a 2 bedroom |
| 21:19.23 | spldart | Sugar Land is one of the fastest growing cities in the US |
| 21:19.34 | JeffM2501 | in average place |
| 21:19.38 | spldart | True but your incomes are higher too |
| 21:19.52 | JeffM2501 | my parents sold there house in an average place for 680k |
| 21:19.56 | JeffM2501 | no pool |
| 21:20.01 | JeffM2501 | 4 bedroom 2 bath |
| 21:20.04 | ToughShooter | hello |
| 21:20.10 | spldart | Hi LOL |
| 21:20.22 | JeffM2501 | somewhat higher, I know I'm not rich ;) |
| 21:20.23 | ToughShooter | Can anyone tell me why my client tells me 2.0.8 is available when I use 2.0.9? |
| 21:20.33 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, my house is 3 bedroom, and worth like 850 |
| 21:20.35 | JeffM2501 | because that is part of the MOTD |
| 21:20.36 | A_Heart_Attack | its the message |
| 21:20.45 | Gnurdux | because housing prices are through the roof here |
| 21:20.45 | spldart | Code writing C++ here in a good field gets you 75 to 110k... how about there? Just curious |
| 21:20.46 | A_Heart_Attack | and it doesnt change veeryday |
| 21:20.48 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't check your version |
| 21:20.53 | Gnurdux | we bought for 350 |
| 21:21.02 | JeffM2501 | spldart, I don't make that much |
| 21:21.09 | ToughShooter | Why not show it to lower versions of clients only? |
| 21:21.10 | spldart | My brother was doing 82K |
| 21:21.19 | spldart | Really? |
| 21:21.25 | JeffM2501 | Thonolan, cus I did the MOTD for all 2.0.x versions |
| 21:21.37 | JeffM2501 | I need to go clean them up one day |
| 21:21.52 | JeffM2501 | but brlcad never made an inteface for removing them when he RSSerized it ;) |
| 21:22.02 | spldart | No wonder he owned a big house, single engine plane, full size 4x4 and trailer to pull plane, etc etc |
| 21:22.19 | JeffM2501 | 82k would be a senior dev |
| 21:22.25 | spldart | eek |
| 21:22.27 | JeffM2501 | somone with 5-10 years of experience |
| 21:22.44 | spldart | Well.. he has been writing code since the mid 90's |
| 21:22.44 | [NP]Tangent | heh, I'm going to major in computer programming in college |
| 21:22.56 | JeffM2501 | a lot of people do |
| 21:23.03 | spldart | I picked the wrong industry Electronics :( |
| 21:23.16 | JeffM2501 | spldart, acutaly there is starting to be a biger call for it |
| 21:23.34 | spldart | I can hope then |
| 21:23.43 | JeffM2501 | everyone went to CS majors leaving the other engenering fields empty |
| 21:23.55 | JeffM2501 | there are a LOT of CS majors out here |
| 21:24.01 | JeffM2501 | who can't program for crap |
| 21:24.07 | spldart | TRUE! |
| 21:24.15 | JeffM2501 | you can get a CS degree here and never learn a programing language |
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| 21:24.22 | A_Heart_Attack | i cant program for my life |
| 21:24.45 | JeffM2501 | we turn those people into localisation drones :) |
| 21:24.46 | spldart | I'm stunned how many are in the IT industry who don't know crap 2 |
| 21:24.58 | JeffM2501 | yeah IT and CS are full of bad tallent |
| 21:25.03 | JeffM2501 | it's hard to find a good person |
| 21:25.05 | spldart | amen |
| 21:25.12 | spldart | same in electronics |
| 21:25.19 | JeffM2501 | you can thank ITT for that ;) |
| 21:25.24 | uso_p | ToughShooter: set disableMOTD 1 ;) |
| 21:25.27 | spldart | YES |
| 21:25.47 | ToughShooter | lol |
| 21:25.53 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, so I see you saying all the stuff we should do, but I've never seen you do any of it, why is that? |
| 21:26.23 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, I'm not good at doing practical things |
| 21:26.32 | JeffM2501 | then why don't you learn or become better |
| 21:26.34 | spldart | Techincal institutes have dumped a poop load of ill equiped hacks with degrees on the market :mad: |
| 21:27.09 | spldart | oh? |
| 21:27.13 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 21:27.17 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, i will eventually... |
| 21:27.30 | Gnurdux | but I tend to prefer impractical stuff |
| 21:27.31 | spldart | Wouldn't a degree comman better pay? |
| 21:27.33 | JeffM2501 | sure you will Gnurdux ... sure you will. |
| 21:27.36 | spldart | command |
| 21:27.42 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 21:27.48 | spldart | oh |
| 21:27.58 | JeffM2501 | they'd not pay me any more for it here |
| 21:27.59 | JeffM2501 | I asked |
| 21:28.06 | spldart | ic |
| 21:28.18 | JeffM2501 | it's not like it'll make me any more productive |
| 21:28.28 | JeffM2501 | and I've never been unable to do anything they've asked me to do. |
| 21:28.30 | spldart | I'm hooked up with papers saying I know electronics and it's not paying off :( |
| 21:28.37 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 21:28.43 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, you don't have many 14 year old devs, do you? |
| 21:28.51 | spldart | but at least I'm a bad arse so I have work wherever I go :/ |
| 21:29.00 | JeffM2501 | no we only employ children to stuff CDs in cases. |
| 21:29.08 | Gnurdux | i mean bzflag, not your co |
| 21:29.08 | JeffM2501 | we have some 12 year olds doing it now |
| 21:29.19 | Gnurdux | hehe |
| 21:29.21 | JeffM2501 | I don't know the ages of everyone with commit access |
| 21:29.29 | JeffM2501 | some are under 16 IIRC |
| 21:29.34 | Gnurdux | most people with commit access dont use it |
| 21:29.43 | JeffM2501 | we don't have dev "jobs" on this project |
| 21:29.52 | Gnurdux | heh yea |
| 21:29.53 | JeffM2501 | if we did it'd be a difrent show |
| 21:30.02 | Gnurdux | then it might actually get somewhere |
| 21:30.09 | Gnurdux | but now JeffM2501 has a plan! |
| 21:30.09 | JeffM2501 | it is somewhere |
| 21:30.33 | JeffM2501 | if we had asignments, I'd be loathe to assign something to somone under 16 tho |
| 21:30.47 | JeffM2501 | no with out good reason and a lot of talk about it |
| 21:31.06 | JeffM2501 | time at that age is very tenious |
| 21:31.38 | bryjen | ibot: status |
| 21:31.39 | ibot | Since Tue Jul 4 19:09:37 2006, there have been 131 modifications, 1124 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 895 commands. I have been awake for 7d 2h 22m 1s this session, and currently reference 111146 factoids. I'm using about 18616 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 21779.21/1547 child 0.04/0.01 |
| 21:31.43 | JeffM2501 | but then if we had asignments we'd have feature secifications |
| 21:31.52 | JeffM2501 | 0 morons.. how can that be posible? |
| 21:32.00 | bryjen | overflow |
| 21:32.04 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:32.08 | spldart | lol |
| 21:32.16 | JeffM2501 | thats a lot of ram it's using |
| 21:32.35 | JeffM2501 | more then one would think |
| 21:33.01 | JeffM2501 | almost as much as notepad |
| 21:33.43 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, notpad uses more than 18 megs? |
| 21:34.09 | JeffM2501 | it was a joke |
| 21:34.13 | JeffM2501 | but on vista, probably\ |
| 21:34.41 | Gnurdux | lol yea |
| 21:34.52 | bryjen | transparent, animated notepad |
| 21:34.55 | spldart | Just opened a new empty wordpad on win xp pro corporate and it's 4.844meg |
| 21:35.05 | Gnurdux | but Linux doesn't use that much less than win 2000 if you run KDE or gnome |
| 21:35.13 | Gnurdux | infact X itself is quite a memory hog |
| 21:35.47 | JeffM2501 | they are all about the same when it comes down to it |
| 21:36.45 | Gnurdux | well you have to do the same sutff |
| 21:36.57 | Gnurdux | linux with no GUI uses a lot less memory... |
| 21:37.15 | spldart | w0rd |
| 21:37.20 | bryjen | blasphemy! ;) |
| 21:37.26 | spldart | amazingly low |
| 21:38.22 | JeffM2501 | so does DOS ;) |
| 21:38.49 | spldart | It's amazing how fast linux runs on an antique machine when you are happy with just screen instead of X |
| 21:39.07 | JeffM2501 | all the prety needs CPU |
| 21:40.02 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, but plain linux is a lot better than dos |
| 21:40.13 | Gnurdux | cause its protected mode |
| 21:40.13 | JeffM2501 | depends what you are doing ;) |
| 21:40.24 | Gnurdux | multitrheaded, 32 bit |
| 21:40.26 | JeffM2501 | but yes for most things for simple servers linux is good |
| 21:40.43 | JeffM2501 | dos is dead |
| 21:40.49 | JeffM2501 | just like windows 98 and ME are today |
| 21:40.52 | JeffM2501 | today is a good day |
| 21:40.57 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 21:41.10 | spldart | blashpemy 98se will live forever |
| 21:41.14 | spldart | LO(L |
| 21:41.26 | JeffM2501 | spldart, no realy, today is the end of MS support for 98 and ME |
| 21:41.32 | spldart | I know |
| 21:41.40 | spldart | heard on fox news yesterday |
| 21:41.46 | JeffM2501 | it' a good thing |
| 21:41.52 | JeffM2501 | everyone should get on the 32bit bus |
| 21:42.05 | bryjen | PCI? |
| 21:42.07 | spldart | true.. but I'm still found of the old days.. I'm a nostalgic fool |
| 21:42.12 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:42.24 | Gnurdux | spldart, fox?? |
| 21:42.43 | JeffM2501 | I have a mobo here with ISA Slots bryjen, it looks "odd" |
| 21:42.48 | JeffM2501 | like too big |
| 21:42.48 | spldart | Fox News did a story on MS discontinuance of 98 and ME support |
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| 21:43.50 | bryjen | iirc the machine i'm using to serve bz has a couple of eisa ones |
| 21:44.07 | JeffM2501 | now if you had vesa local bus slots ;) |
| 21:44.11 | uso_p | my old gameloader unsupported :( |
| 21:44.42 | spldart | my test machine is a Shuttle with 3 isa slots |
| 21:44.50 | bryjen | naw, we've thrown out all the 486's with the VL slots |
| 21:45.07 | spldart | I have an old dell server in the garage that was all isa and 386 cpu :eek: |
| 21:45.28 | JeffM2501 | I kinda find it sad that I have a 2.8gig machine that Just don't know what to do with |
| 21:46.15 | DTRemenak | shutdown -r now |
| 21:46.19 | DTRemenak | ~ww |
| 21:46.21 | ibot | Wrong window, you fool! |
| 21:46.25 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:46.26 | spldart | lol |
| 21:46.42 | DTRemenak | wrong keyboard actually :S |
| 21:46.42 | bryjen | at least it wasn't su followed by the password |
| 21:46.58 | JeffM2501 | that would suck |
| 21:47.00 | spldart | Doh... I do the keyboard mistake all the time :( |
| 21:47.02 | DTRemenak | yeah it would |
| 21:47.11 | JeffM2501 | synergy,, it's all about synergy |
| 21:47.12 | spldart | LOL # bryjen joke |
| 21:47.19 | JeffM2501 | best application EVER |
| 21:47.24 | CBG_ | I do too if when I have 2 machines here. :( |
| 21:48.09 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: synergy work on bsd? |
| 21:48.20 | JeffM2501 | I think it's been ported to all kinds of stuff |
| 21:48.25 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 21:48.27 | DTRemenak | might have to try it |
| 21:48.55 | JeffM2501 | hmm it says "Unix" includes Linux, Solaris, Irix and other variants |
| 21:49.10 | JeffM2501 | it's GPL, so you can just port it ;) |
| 21:49.15 | DTRemenak | could make it work if not |
| 21:49.26 | brlcad | DTRemenak: you sure that was a ww? :) |
| 21:49.48 | JeffM2501 | it may only be for X tho |
| 21:49.52 | DTRemenak | brlcad: I don't think I have permission to shut down freenode ;) |
| 21:50.05 | brlcad | i was thinking the intarweb in general ;) |
| 21:50.21 | JeffM2501 | that would make DTRemenak god. |
| 21:50.26 | DTRemenak | woot! |
| 21:50.30 | brlcad | he's not?! |
| 21:50.35 | JeffM2501 | then all the homeschoolers would have to worship him ;) |
| 21:50.45 | Gnurdux | hah lol |
| 21:50.55 | brlcad | "Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god..." |
| 21:51.01 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite is Christian but not homeschool |
| 21:51.04 | JeffM2501 | he's already got the misterious hood thing going on |
| 21:51.20 | JeffM2501 | you say yes! |
| 21:51.45 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, linux isnt technically a version of Unix.. unix source-compatible but no Unix codebase |
| 21:52.04 | JeffM2501 | yes thank you capitan obvious |
| 21:52.06 | brlcad | sadly, that movie is older than a good portion of the current audience.. |
| 21:52.11 | JeffM2501 | it was a quote for the site |
| 21:52.15 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 21:52.20 | A_Heart_Attack | JeffM2501: nice. i like the oldschool |
| 21:52.20 | JeffM2501 | they probalby only remember #2 |
| 21:52.23 | JeffM2501 | and the dancing toaster |
| 21:52.26 | spldart | "This chic is toast!" |
| 21:52.38 | spldart | "That's a big twinkie" |
| 21:52.44 | JeffM2501 | noone steps on a church in my town |
| 21:53.02 | JeffM2501 | what did you do ray? |
| 21:53.09 | brlcad | "what did you do.*gah |
| 21:53.16 | spldart | "it's the stay-puff marshmellow man" |
| 21:53.28 | bryjen | isn't the twinkie reference in the second one? |
| 21:53.34 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:53.44 | JeffM2501 | it's the amount of PKE before gozer |
| 21:53.55 | spldart | it's the psycokenetic energy in the first one |
| 21:54.00 | spldart | oops |
| 21:54.06 | JeffM2501 | "imagene the normal amount of PsycoKenticEneryg is this twinkie" |
| 21:54.17 | JeffM2501 | now Imagine a twinki 350 feet high |
| 21:54.36 | spldart | "they hate it when I do this" |
| 21:55.28 | spldart | I love that and Buckaroo Bonzai so much :) |
| 21:55.31 | brlcad | We've been going about this all wrong.. This Mr. Stay Puft's okay. He's a sailor, he's in New York, we get this guy laid we won't have any trouble. |
| 21:55.38 | JeffM2501 | whever you go there you are. |
| 21:56.09 | spldart | Those movies were made for people like us werent' they? |
| 21:56.21 | spldart | Campy brain types |
| 21:56.38 | JeffM2501 | I was just thinking teens in the 80's |
| 21:56.46 | spldart | well... that too |
| 21:56.59 | JeffM2501 | "cus the next star wars dosn't come out for a year" |
| 21:57.22 | spldart | but terminator came out then too.. and whereas I did like that I love GB and BB more for some reason |
| 21:57.33 | JeffM2501 | the first one was billed as more horror |
| 21:57.38 | JeffM2501 | the second was more action |
| 21:57.39 | spldart | And Krull... Star Trek II, III |
| 21:57.51 | DTRemenak | yay twok |
| 21:57.52 | JeffM2501 | and now they make anime for us :) |
| 21:58.44 | spldart | IMO the 80's was a better decade than the 90's and the 70's |
| 21:58.50 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, have you seen the TOS with reworked effects video? |
| 21:58.55 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 21:59.00 | JeffM2501 | looked prety good |
| 21:59.05 | DTRemenak | actually I think you're the one that sent the link to me :) |
| 21:59.07 | Admirarch | Yay, Robotech |
| 21:59.08 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:59.16 | JeffM2501 | robotech is a bastardisation |
| 21:59.35 | spldart | well, then it was an old bastard |
| 21:59.43 | JeffM2501 | it was 3 seperate shows |
| 21:59.48 | JeffM2501 | shoved together |
| 21:59.57 | JeffM2501 | with remade plotlines |
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| 22:01.12 | spldart | :~D |
| 22:01.14 | JeffM2501 | but realy it's all about the macros plus |
| 22:01.22 | JeffM2501 | that's what you need to see |
| 22:01.30 | spldart | I remember |
| 22:02.06 | JeffM2501 | cus it always comes down to AIs gone rampant |
| 22:04.04 | JeffM2501 | and nadesco, everyone should see nadesco |
| 22:04.29 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501 and/or brlcad: if one of you wants to offer me a job with no degree requirement, I might just take it |
| 22:04.41 | Admirarch | Nadesico is okayish |
| 22:05.03 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, we are seriously looking for QA |
| 22:05.13 | JeffM2501 | specialy one that can program to help automate stuff |
| 22:05.26 | JeffM2501 | but it'd be full time |
| 22:05.36 | spldart | For old timers in the houston area.... Channel 39 "Kung Fu Theater" on Saturdays!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:05.50 | spldart | Late 70's early 80's |
| 22:06.01 | spldart | IIRC |
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| 22:07.51 | spldart | You do realize I'm not referring to David Carradine in "Kung Fu": but instead those terribly dubbed hong kong kung fu movies that flooded the US after Bruce Lee's death? |
| 22:08.06 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 22:08.16 | A_Heart_Attack | u realize your the only one talking now |
| 22:08.23 | spldart | damn |
| 22:09.28 | brlcad | spldart: yes, just mildly related |
| 22:09.40 | spldart | oh. OK :) |
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| 22:09.52 | spldart | Grasshopper |
| 22:17.19 | spldart | OMG.. the computer case displayed at the beginning of the How It's Made episode in making PC's is the desktop version of the Server case I have This machine in :-0 |
| 22:19.28 | Mr_Molez | spldart: i guess they decided to use the cheapest stuff they could find ;) |
| 22:21.54 | spldart | What can I say.... I spend my money on the insides.. not the outsides... |
| 22:22.07 | Mr_Molez | good on ya ! |
| 22:22.11 | spldart | Now my teenage daughters and my wife... They got kew cases. But they are girls |
| 22:22.19 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 22:22.37 | Mr_Molez | yeh I never bother with cases, mine has the side of 99.999% of the time anyway |
| 22:22.43 | Mr_Molez | *off |
| 22:23.11 | Mr_Molez | infact,, im not sure i even still have the side for this one :-S |
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| 22:28.21 | spldart | This is me... Ooo.. My server has to many HDD 's in it now... Lemme add some fans zzzzzzzzzzz cut two openings int eh front and mount another in the back http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/server.jpg |
| 22:28.34 | spldart | was getting to hot heheh |
| 22:28.45 | Mr_Molez | ewww |
| 22:29.20 | spldart | My liquid cooled dually sounds like your 'sideless' one hehe |
| 22:29.37 | Mr_Molez | 900 year old mouse. 500 year old keyboard.. 2x cdrom drive :P floppy drive !!! what are they !? are they even made anymore :P |
| 22:29.55 | Mr_Molez | spldart: what specs u got ? |
| 22:31.59 | spldart | just a sec :-p |
| 22:33.44 | spldart | You can't see the coolant lines in this pic cuz of lighting but http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/dually.jpg |
| 22:34.21 | JeffM2501 | that is almost as big as my case |
| 22:34.27 | spldart | Old msi k7d mobo with dual amd barton mobiles jumper modded to run mp # max of 2300 mhz apiece |
| 22:35.29 | spldart | mmmMMMmm make -j3 |
| 22:35.54 | Mr_Molez | nice |
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| 22:42.21 | spldart | some more eye candyhttp://spldart.opencombat.net:92/resevoir.jpg http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/pump.jpg http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/maze3waterblock.jpg |
| 22:42.30 | spldart | oops.... fouled up the first link |
| 22:42.31 | spldart | thanks |
| 22:42.56 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/resevoir.jpg http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/pump.jpg http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/maze3waterblock.jpg |
| 22:43.00 | spldart | to make it clickable |
| 22:43.32 | spldart | Still trying to decide my next direction in processor power though :( |
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| 22:55.16 | spldart | BTW.. is there any reason to update my bzfs build of 2.0.9 from a tad over a month ago.. Security or stability or otherwise fixes? |
| 22:55.43 | A_Heart_Attack | i dont think so |
| 22:55.48 | spldart | k |
| 22:55.49 | a_temp_dist | any WNC admins? axl rose is trolling and TKing again |
| 22:56.01 | Gnurdux | spldart, just some small code cleanup |
| 22:56.08 | Gnurdux | no bugfixes |
| 22:56.23 | spldart | We were just discussing axl rose 2 hours ago.. I banned him for a year >:-( |
| 22:56.36 | Birdie | WNC? |
| 22:56.40 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 22:56.42 | A_Heart_Attack | the server |
| 22:56.45 | A_Heart_Attack | WNC |
| 22:57.02 | JeffM2501 | Women of Nantucket County |
| 22:57.18 | Birdie | poll ban him? |
| 22:57.23 | spldart | He is 24.177.58.131 |
| 22:57.43 | A_Heart_Attack | sure |
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| 22:57.49 | A_Heart_Attack | hell leave though |
| 22:57.51 | spldart | He lives to TK, deliver an oppossing capture and cuss |
| 22:58.23 | Birdie | makes me think at the 89.53.*.* guy..djeez how many times i"ve banned him! |
| 22:58.33 | spldart | lol |
| 22:58.43 | brad | is that manu? |
| 22:58.46 | Birdie | yes |
| 22:58.53 | Birdie | well manu_ :) |
| 22:58.54 | brad | manu should stop trolling servers! |
| 22:59.00 | spldart | The Digital Pioneer was having fun teasing him :-D |
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