| 00:00.12 | DemolitionMan | for double nested stuff, I usualy put the lower stuff in a struct |
| 00:00.30 | DemolitionMan | so you have staticArray[thing].subThing[otherthing] |
| 00:00.37 | DemolitionMan | so you know exactly what your doin |
| 00:01.10 | DemolitionMan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:01.39 | L4m3r | I just need to store flag types by category :P |
| 00:02.02 | DemolitionMan | then maybe a map would help, it has 2 values |
| 00:02.08 | DemolitionMan | the key and the value |
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| 00:10.17 | L4m3r | perhaps I should just change that whole mess to a flat two-dimensional array |
| 00:33.56 | L4m3r | is there an "official" term for "this should never happen but I'm going to add this case anyway just in case"? |
| 00:34.06 | L4m3r | ...aside from "really WTF" |
| 00:36.42 | DemolitionMan | I usualy put "should not get here" |
| 00:36.49 | DemolitionMan | or "sanity check" |
| 00:39.32 | L4m3r | :) |
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| 00:41.53 | A-Delusion | >join #essy |
| 00:51.22 | SportChick | A-Delusion: > |
| 00:51.29 | SportChick | A-Delusion: ? I mean |
| 01:01.35 | A-Delusion | means I used the wrong operator code |
| 01:01.56 | A-Delusion | i do it at least once a week, sportchick |
| 01:02.50 | SportChick | heh |
| 01:02.50 | SportChick | ok |
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| 01:39.06 | JeffM2501 | again? |
| 01:39.24 | L4m3r | I don't think so |
| 01:39.31 | JeffM2501 | ok good :) |
| 01:39.34 | JeffM2501 | cus that would suck |
| 01:39.37 | JeffM2501 | and suck hard |
| 01:39.38 | L4m3r | did you see that Q&A yesterday? |
| 01:41.00 | L4m3r | lol... guess it is |
| 01:41.36 | L4m3r | it's like lilo reads this channel :o |
| 01:41.40 | JeffM2501 | that boy REALY needs to learn some public speaking |
| 01:41.45 | L4m3r | heh |
| 01:42.21 | L4m3r | they also need to learn how to hold a serious Q/A discussion |
| 01:42.21 | JeffM2501 | better would have been , "hi all, as you may be aware, on 06/25/06 we had..." |
| 01:42.37 | L4m3r | the one yesterday was trolled quite a bit |
| 01:42.45 | JeffM2501 | then like "this is just a reminder that you should change your passwords now, and regulary" |
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| 01:57.46 | L4m3r | well, now that I changed that wonky array of vectors to a 2D array, it SEEMS to be working without incident. thanks for the help :) |
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| 02:01.17 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 02:01.36 | Aribeth | hi JeffM2501 |
| 02:01.40 | JeffM2501 | hi |
| 02:01.48 | L4m3r | hi aribeth :) |
| 02:01.52 | JeffM2501 | hows it' goin |
| 02:01.53 | Aribeth | hi |
| 02:02.09 | Aribeth | doing good in eq2 |
| 02:02.15 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 02:02.18 | JeffM2501 | you level 60 yet? |
| 02:02.26 | Aribeth | i switched to the bazzar |
| 02:02.34 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 02:02.39 | Aribeth | have a level 34 templar |
| 02:02.49 | Aribeth | level 24 paladin |
| 02:03.02 | Aribeth | level 25 warden |
| 02:03.53 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 02:03.53 | Aribeth | joined a guild too |
| 02:04.27 | Aribeth | i was in SH when the server went down a bit ago\ |
| 02:04.55 | JeffM2501 | have you learned to hate SOE yet? :) |
| 02:05.25 | Aribeth | lol....with a passion...they nerfed tradeskill bad in UL24 |
| 02:06.47 | Aribeth | i still love the game though |
| 02:08.09 | Aribeth | i think my lvl 24 paladin is better than my 34 templar |
| 02:08.37 | JeffM2501 | I've been doing WoW And DDO |
| 02:09.17 | Aribeth | you were telling me about that |
| 02:10.12 | Aribeth | so no eq2 for you then? |
| 02:17.10 | brlcad | L4m3r: yeah, I gave a bit of a gripe in public and in private about the Q/A yesterday.. it was pretty piss poor, not thought out at all |
| 02:17.21 | L4m3r | heh |
| 02:17.54 | L4m3r | as weird as it sounds, I think IRC wasn't the right way to convey it |
| 02:18.36 | brlcad | smacked horribly of inexperience in dealing with holding a forum, from a group I would not have expected to have been like that |
| 02:19.11 | brlcad | IRC could/would have been fine, just not this "please line up" crap |
| 02:20.19 | brlcad | having people msg one person interest in asking a question, only to then give them unmoderated voice (on an already very politically/emotionally charged issue) |
| 02:20.52 | L4m3r | yeah... |
| 02:20.59 | brlcad | there's a reason most press conferences are not open to "the public" |
| 02:21.28 | brlcad | the ones that would otherwise clammor to get ahold of a mic are usually the last ones you want speaking |
| 02:21.50 | JeffM2501 | most ones like that take the question and paste it using a moderator |
| 02:22.00 | brlcad | if they're going to do it live, the questions should have been moderated through a couple staffers |
| 02:22.11 | brlcad | and then posted in full including the originator in the channel |
| 02:22.15 | JeffM2501 | so time to move to OFTC? |
| 02:22.20 | L4m3r | even then, the questions that were asked were very obvious ones. they could've posted all that info on the website. |
| 02:22.23 | brlcad | and THEN have mage answer the questions |
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| 02:23.34 | JeffM2501 | you still want to be a freenode node now? |
| 02:23.42 | brlcad | nah, the whole incident didn't really affect us much at all as far as I can tell -- nay a blip of concern the night that it happened other than a few chuckles from dtr iirc :) |
| 02:24.06 | A_Meteorite | I still gotta change my password :) (I tried reconnecting directly after getting disconnected) |
| 02:24.18 | brlcad | i still wouldn't mind being a freenode node -- but not without having them in a jail for sure :) |
| 02:24.28 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:25.23 | A_Meteorite | hmmmm... how DO you change your password through nickserv? |
| 02:25.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah but if we don't move servers how am I suposed to state my coupe? |
| 02:25.38 | brlcad | heh |
| 02:25.41 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, //msg nicserve set password yourmomma |
| 02:25.46 | A_Meteorite | ah thanks |
| 02:27.31 | brlcad | i think one of the /. comments summarized the entire incident quite nicely even as a worst case scenario |
| 02:27.37 | brlcad | "Oh no! Someone stole my Freenode password! Now they can login and have no control over anything!" |
| 02:27.47 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 02:28.07 | A_Meteorite | restarting client.. brb |
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| 02:29.03 | A_Meteorite | that was a significantly faster join... ;) |
| 02:30.08 | JeffM2501 | I'd not put it past many of our users to have there IRC password to be there system passwords ;) |
| 02:30.26 | QuantumBeep | Um, like me. |
| 02:30.33 | A_Meteorite | nah, my system password is 5x longer and that much more random :D |
| 02:30.34 | JeffM2501 | and your a server host ;) |
| 02:31.26 | QuantumBeep | My server doesn't have that password anywhere on it. |
| 02:31.31 | QuantumBeep | But I'm still a moron. |
| 02:31.31 | A_Meteorite | QuantumBeep: you so need to change root password ;) |
| 02:31.47 | QuantumBeep | Root password isn't the same one. |
| 02:32.00 | A_Meteorite | yeah, but it would easily get hacked... |
| 02:32.00 | QuantumBeep | Root hasn't been compromised, unless you compromised it. |
| 02:32.06 | QuantumBeep | Would it? |
| 02:32.11 | A_Meteorite | yes |
| 02:32.19 | QuantumBeep | It's not even a dictionary word. |
| 02:32.27 | A_Meteorite | it isn't? |
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| 02:32.45 | A_Meteorite | french |
| 02:33.00 | QuantumBeep | No... some web dictionaries would have it, but I highly doubt a crack dictionary would have it. Besides, it's obfuscated from there. |
| 02:33.08 | A_Meteorite | yeah, true true |
| 02:33.10 | QuantumBeep | But yeah, lets' change it. |
| 02:33.14 | blast007 | awww |
| 02:33.16 | QuantumBeep | You change it and give it to me, k? |
| 02:33.21 | A_Meteorite | alright |
| 02:33.41 | QuantumBeep | Er, and next time, let's discuss embarassing things like this where Jeff can't see it. |
| 02:33.46 | QuantumBeep | >.< |
| 02:33.56 | A_Meteorite | eek... wrong channel... |
| 02:33.57 | JeffM2501 | dosn't make it any less embarasing ;)( |
| 02:33.59 | blast007 | lol |
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| 02:41.29 | A_Meteorite | QuantumBeep: check your PMs |
| 02:42.10 | QuantumBeep | Holy cow. |
| 02:42.12 | QuantumBeep | OK, |
| 02:42.19 | QuantumBeep | That's a good password. |
| 02:42.22 | A_Meteorite | thanks :) |
| 02:42.38 | A_Meteorite | mine are about three times as long and have more characters, but I tried to make it easy |
| 02:43.07 | QuantumBeep | Easy? You're a freak. |
| 02:43.16 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
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| 03:40.26 | orange | you're passing root passwords in pm? |
| 03:44.21 | QuantumBeep | You saw nothing. |
| 03:44.42 | orange | somebody did though |
| 03:45.27 | menotume | password = '123' :) |
| 03:47.36 | QuantumBeep | It wasn't IRC PM. |
| 03:47.50 | orange | bzbb? ;-) |
| 03:50.34 | QuantumBeep | Nope. |
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| 03:51.43 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 03:51.52 | [NP]Tangent | something I saw in boxy wars that I thought was cool |
| 03:51.57 | [NP]Tangent | how the flags are all in zones |
| 03:52.19 | [NP]Tangent | anyone who wants details... PM so that Jeff doesn't get ticked again |
| 04:02.09 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 04:02.23 | JeffM2501 | you can talk about your stuff, just don't do it step by step ;) |
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| 04:28.33 | [NP]Tangent | well Jeff |
| 04:28.37 | [NP]Tangent | first you take the SW flag |
| 04:28.42 | [NP]Tangent | then you add eggs and milk... |
| 04:29.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 04:37.11 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ...then I secretly add tabasco... |
| 04:40.34 | [NP]Tangent | dude |
| 04:40.37 | [NP]Tangent | tabasco rocks |
| 04:40.39 | [NP]Tangent | anyways |
| 04:40.46 | [NP]Tangent | when you add the eggs, milk, and tabasco |
| 04:40.48 | [NP]Tangent | VOILA |
| 04:40.49 | [NP]Tangent | a G flag |
| 04:41.40 | DTRemenak | ... |
| 04:41.55 | blast007 | DTRemenak: I second that |
| 04:42.21 | QuantumBeep | What is this, the most pathetic RPG ever? |
| 04:42.58 | DTRemenak | QuantumBeep: the only role I play is that of me |
| 04:43.14 | QuantumBeep | I don't even play that role. |
| 04:43.30 | blast007 | I'm a Druid |
| 04:43.39 | QuantumBeep | However, I will play Cecil and Kain about once a month until I die. |
| 04:43.50 | PuMpErNiCkLe | I'm a Pirate. |
| 04:43.52 | PuMpErNiCkLe | yarr |
| 04:43.56 | [NP]Tangent | I'm... |
| 04:44.00 | [NP]Tangent | something... I'm sure... |
| 04:44.48 | QuantumBeep | I think I could be a kinda pathetic villain... |
| 04:45.18 | [NP]Tangent | could be!? |
| 04:45.21 | [NP]Tangent | but you already are! |
| 04:46.07 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent is the low level monk that keeps getting killed by squirrels |
| 04:46.41 | [NP]Tangent | not squirrels |
| 04:46.44 | [NP]Tangent | BU flag holders |
| 04:46.45 | QuantumBeep | Girls. |
| 04:46.46 | [NP]Tangent | :-\ |
| 04:46.49 | [NP]Tangent | them too |
| 04:48.38 | DTRemenak | PuMpErNiCkLe: I am a pirate king! |
| 04:48.58 | QuantumBeep | Pirate king? You king of a ship? |
| 04:48.59 | DTRemenak | and it is, it is a glorious thing, to be a pirate king! |
| 04:49.01 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Pirates don't have kings. o_O |
| 04:50.08 | DTRemenak | when I sally forth to seek my prey, I help myself in a royal way...I sink a few more ships, it’s true, than a well-bred monarch ought to do. |
| 04:50.17 | QuantumBeep | He is a pirate king. Beware, for pirate kings like to fire at things. |
| 04:50.29 | DTRemenak | But many a king on a first-class throne, if he wants to call his crown his own, must manage somehow to get through more dirty work than ever I do! |
| 04:53.47 | QuantumBeep | I am sorely outdone. My poetic skills are no match for your own. I am pwned bt t3h p1r4t3. |
| 04:55.33 | DTRemenak | not my poetic skills, 'tis W.S. Gilbert |
| 05:00.25 | JeffM2501 | but you are an expert in everying animal and mineral |
| 05:00.48 | DTRemenak | hmm, I can't exactly play two parts in the same opera, now, can I? |
| 05:00.53 | QuantumBeep | Are you dissing his vegetable skillz? |
| 05:02.13 | DTRemenak | I’m very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical...I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical. |
| 05:02.36 | DTRemenak | About binomial theorem I’m teeming with a lot of news...with many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse. |
| 05:17.50 | trepan | DTRemenak: thx, you induced a "The Pirate Movie" flashback |
| 05:18.03 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 05:18.44 | DTRemenak | glad I could help ;) |
| 05:18.49 | JeffM2501 | beastly pirates are we! |
| 05:22.15 | Aribeth | arr |
| 05:44.25 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Avast! |
| 05:44.57 | PuMpErNiCkLe | http://newsdesigner.com/blog/images/pirate.jpg |
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| 06:29.24 | A-Delusion | I'm having trouble setting worldweapon triggers. Is it trigger flagcap FlagCap Flagcap flagCap |
| 06:29.35 | A-Delusion | what's the capital letter |
| 06:31.17 | A-Delusion | none of them seem to work |
| 06:34.10 | [NP]Tangent | oncap |
| 06:34.15 | [NP]Tangent | I'm looking at source |
| 06:34.17 | [NP]Tangent | it's oncap |
| 06:37.38 | A-Delusion | that's not working for me |
| 06:38.49 | [NP]Tangent | doesn't spit out any errors for me |
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| 07:14.15 | A-Delusion | well, the manpages say flagcap, it seems that's incorrect |
| 07:14.26 | A-Delusion | should say oncap |
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| 08:52.30 | [NP]Tangent | oh man |
| 08:52.45 | [NP]Tangent | there is no denying how cool that Doomball thing I just put in my map is |
| 08:53.20 | [NP]Tangent | it kills you if you run into it, it shoots genos randomly, it fires a SW every five minutes... AND it does a nice laser show for all the airborne dudes |
| 08:54.41 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 08:54.43 | [NP]Tangent | good night |
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| 12:05.09 | ToughShooter | global login broken with 2.1: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/73060 |
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| 12:10.06 | [dmp] | heh, php warnings/errors :) |
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| 12:31.40 | trepan | ToughShooter: gdb backtrace would be more useful |
| 12:36.43 | ToughShooter | I need to rebuilt my entire source tree for debug symbols..doing it now |
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| 13:16.14 | ToughShooter | trepan: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/73089 |
| 13:17.16 | ToughShooter | The player account I use is in local.admin (which has hideadmin perm) |
| 13:25.41 | trepan | ToughShooter: yup, it's broke; simple enough to fix, jeff's stuff iirc |
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| 14:11.33 | Saturos | Anybody here? |
| 14:11.49 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 14:11.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 14:11.59 | Saturos | k... |
| 14:12.11 | Saturos | Then I will ask later for the commands to get 2.1 from CVS. |
| 14:12.26 | brad | ~bzcvs |
| 14:12.28 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P bzflag (this is for HEAD ie: 2.1 see also bz20cvs) |
| 14:13.07 | brad | http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3248 |
| 14:13.17 | Saturos | Alright, thanks! :) |
| 14:16.06 | DTRemenak | see, nobody has to be here for to answer your question ;) |
| 14:16.13 | DTRemenak | s/for/ |
| 14:16.39 | DTRemenak | er, s/s\/for\//s\/for\/\/ |
| 14:17.12 | DTRemenak | missing a trailing slash on that one too :( |
| 14:17.38 | TheRedBaron | hrm.... |
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| 15:10.38 | RedBaron2 | anybody home? |
| 15:10.59 | gsnedders | no |
| 15:11.16 | RedBaron2 | darn |
| 15:11.22 | gsnedders | :) |
| 15:11.35 | RedBaron2 | :P |
| 15:11.36 | blast007 | that's twice today someone asked that ;D |
| 15:11.41 | RedBaron2 | hehe |
| 15:11.53 | RedBaron2 | had a question if something is a bug.. |
| 15:12.24 | blast007 | k |
| 15:12.44 | RedBaron2 | under gui settings the colored shot on/off option.. |
| 15:13.12 | RedBaron2 | when the colored shots are on, the radar will shade them, depending on which height the bullet is |
| 15:13.27 | TheRedBaron | bug/feature request :) |
| 15:13.32 | RedBaron2 | but when you turn it off, it doesn't do that |
| 15:13.42 | RedBaron2 | so you lose the ability to see whether a bullet will hit you, or above you |
| 15:13.51 | DTRemenak | so turn it on ;) |
| 15:14.00 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:14.04 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 15:14.04 | TheRedBaron | ... |
| 15:14.29 | TheRedBaron | DTRemenak: some of us have this weird obsession, in trying to figure out what color is shooting at us :) |
| 15:14.40 | TheRedBaron | no no no, scratch that |
| 15:14.40 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 15:14.42 | RedBaron2 | cept blue shots are hard to see on buildings |
| 15:14.45 | TheRedBaron | thats why |
| 15:14.55 | TheRedBaron | or that blasted pink color |
| 15:14.59 | RedBaron2 | right |
| 15:14.59 | blast007 | change the color |
| 15:15.01 | DTRemenak | you can change the blue radar color in your config |
| 15:16.04 | TheRedBaron | really? |
| 15:16.13 | TheRedBaron | I thought it had to do with that cryptic radar.png |
| 15:17.03 | DTRemenak | I mean, the color of the shots and tanks on radar can be changed in your config |
| 15:17.17 | blast007 | radar.png is for fast rendering mode, and it's used for objects |
| 15:17.20 | DTRemenak | if you want to change the buildings, you need to edit radar.png, or change to a different radar mode |
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| 15:17.57 | TheRedBaron | are you just trying to complicate my bzflag experience? :) |
| 15:18.16 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 15:18.45 | blast007 | adding a line if a config is complicated? :) |
| 15:18.49 | blast007 | ina * |
| 15:18.52 | blast007 | gah.. |
| 15:18.54 | blast007 | in a* |
| 15:19.18 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 15:19.19 | DTRemenak | oh, and for what it's worth, shots are always scaled by their radar positions, regardless of whether colored shots are on... |
| 15:19.39 | RedBaron2 | hmm |
| 15:19.43 | DTRemenak | oops, spoke too soon. that's an ugly little bug |
| 15:19.44 | TheRedBaron | blast007: see what complications do to you? |
| 15:19.48 | blast007 | lol |
| 15:19.54 | A-Delusion | another nice refinement might be to shad the radar blip of a tank that's waay above or below you |
| 15:19.55 | TheRedBaron | DTRemenak: thats what we are referring to |
| 15:19.55 | RedBaron2 | oh, so it is a bug then? |
| 15:20.04 | DTRemenak | yeah, the code is wrong |
| 15:20.08 | RedBaron2 | ok |
| 15:20.13 | TheRedBaron | with colored shots off, there is no scaling |
| 15:20.18 | RedBaron2 | the only problem with shaving the tank |
| 15:20.27 | TheRedBaron | your tank is hairy? |
| 15:20.28 | RedBaron2 | is sometimes i have my radar zoomed in..and can't see the tank |
| 15:20.32 | A-Delusion | shade. |
| 15:21.17 | RedBaron2 | shading* |
| 15:22.01 | DTRemenak | TheRedBaron: it does scale, for your own shots and world weapon shots...just not other tanks' shots ;) |
| 15:22.22 | TheRedBaron | ah, thats my problem |
| 15:22.27 | TheRedBaron | I never pay much attention to my shots |
| 15:22.36 | TheRedBaron | too paranoid about the other tanks' shots |
| 15:23.57 | RedBaron2 | right |
| 15:24.01 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx: be consistent, scale other tanks' shots (from white) by height even when colored shots are off. |
| 15:24.08 | RedBaron2 | maybe thats the reason you always blow yourself up bro :P |
| 15:24.15 | DTRemenak | now don't say complaining never got you anything ;) |
| 15:24.21 | TheRedBaron | DTRemenak: hehe |
| 15:24.54 | TheRedBaron | we weren't complaining ;) |
| 15:25.04 | TheRedBaron | just merely asking for a feature request ;) |
| 15:25.04 | RedBaron2 | "weren't" :p |
| 15:25.11 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 15:30.54 | DTRemenak | whatever :P |
| 15:33.16 | TheRedBaron | ~dtremenak++ |
| 15:33.25 | TheRedBaron | Now don't say we were never grateful ;) |
| 15:33.31 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 15:33.44 | RedBaron2 | hurray for DTR :D |
| 15:33.52 | TheRedBaron | ~hail DTRemenak |
| 15:33.55 | ibot | ACTION bows down to DTRemenak and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 15:34.20 | RedBaron2 | :) |
| 15:35.39 | DTRemenak | ~TheRedBaron++ |
| 15:35.47 | DTRemenak | for finding a bug, of course |
| 15:35.52 | RedBaron2 | *blink* |
| 15:36.01 | DTRemenak | ~RedBaron2++ |
| 15:36.04 | DTRemenak | you too ;) |
| 15:36.06 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 15:36.08 | DTRemenak | just don't type that fast |
| 15:36.20 | RedBaron2 | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 15:36.25 | RedBaron2 | :) |
| 15:40.04 | menotume | Thumper_: piiing |
| 15:42.34 | DTRemenak | pooong |
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| 16:37.30 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/73089 |
| 16:37.51 | JeffM2501 | umm what is that? |
| 16:37.53 | JeffM2501 | and hello |
| 16:38.08 | ToughShooter | The broken global login in current 2.1 |
| 16:38.28 | JeffM2501 | and what am I going to do with that? |
| 16:38.45 | ToughShooter | "[15:25] trepanToughShooter: yup, it's broke; simple enough to fix, jeff's stuff iirc" |
| 16:38.59 | JeffM2501 | ok then fix it |
| 16:39.10 | ToughShooter | I wanted to notify you |
| 16:39.14 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 16:39.40 | JeffM2501 | I don't even know what that blob of text says |
| 16:39.54 | JeffM2501 | why not just come out and say what you want to say |
| 16:40.00 | JeffM2501 | "this code here is busted" |
| 16:40.06 | JeffM2501 | "and this is how to fix it" |
| 16:40.11 | ToughShooter | because he said it was your stuff |
| 16:40.14 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 16:40.17 | JeffM2501 | I have lots of "stuff" |
| 16:40.31 | JeffM2501 | that dosn't mean I can read your wiered apple dump |
| 16:40.38 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsMessages.cxx: fix segfault (thx toughshooter) |
| 16:40.42 | JeffM2501 | or can read your mind to know what code your talking about :) |
| 16:40.44 | BenUrban | haha |
| 16:40.49 | JeffM2501 | see THAT is the way to fix it ;) |
| 16:40.59 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter: best to paste into the channel. many people can fix things, not just those who wrote them ;) |
| 16:41.10 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 16:41.19 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, what was the code? |
| 16:41.21 | DTRemenak | trepan's tree is all wierd, he can't commit a lot of fixes even if they're easy. |
| 16:41.27 | ToughShooter | DTRemenak: I thought I did so in the past |
| 16:41.35 | DTRemenak | I never saw it ;) |
| 16:41.45 | JeffM2501 | and all I saw was you pastebin |
| 16:41.49 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: dereferencing a player without checking to see if it was null |
| 16:41.52 | JeffM2501 | that's not a very nice "good morning" |
| 16:41.55 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 16:41.56 | JeffM2501 | where? |
| 16:42.03 | JeffM2501 | in cleanup stuff? |
| 16:42.10 | ToughShooter | DTRemenak: Ah, you came in around an hour later |
| 16:42.12 | BenUrban | JeffM2501: good morning :P |
| 16:42.18 | JeffM2501 | hows it going BenUrban |
| 16:42.19 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: 0x0001c778 in sendAdminInfoMessage (aboutPlayer=0, toPlayer=-1, record=true) at bzfsMessages.cxx:442 |
| 16:42.29 | JeffM2501 | ahh ok |
| 16:42.29 | DTRemenak | as the backtrace he posted said ;) |
| 16:42.35 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it did |
| 16:42.42 | JeffM2501 | I just have no experience reading those |
| 16:42.48 | DTRemenak | it had a lot of extra crap at the top, but the bottom is a standard gdb backtrace |
| 16:42.56 | BenUrban | it's going wet |
| 16:43.01 | BenUrban | very very wet |
| 16:43.03 | ToughShooter | yeah, too many debug levels |
| 16:43.10 | BenUrban | at least outside it is :P |
| 16:43.30 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter: actually that extra stuff is probably useful in hard-to-debug situations |
| 16:43.47 | DTRemenak | this situation was very simple though. GetPlayerByIndex(-1) returns null |
| 16:44.23 | DTRemenak | hm, not sure that fix will compile on gcc though |
| 16:44.37 | BenUrban | ?! |
| 16:44.38 | ToughShooter | I don't know about a lot of code in BZFlag |
| 16:44.41 | JeffM2501 | when do I use gdb ;) |
| 16:44.53 | ToughShooter | Some "easy" fixes are indeed very hard for me |
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| 16:45.22 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter: mostly it's "easy" because it's the same damn problem we've had about 300 other places in bzfs since tupone changed GetPlayerByIndex ;) |
| 16:45.22 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsMessages.cxx: build |
| 16:46.23 | DTRemenak | the new code is more correct, but it returns null sometime. so anytime you get a player, you have to make sure it exists before you can use it |
| 16:47.50 | DTRemenak | I went through after fixing a dozen or so from valgrind. checked every instance of GetPlayerByIndex, got many many more. and still more get introduced when people rewrite or add things. |
| 16:48.23 | DTRemenak | the api even has a large-font boldfaced warning about it, and people still don't check it in plugins... |
| 16:48.41 | JeffM2501 | yeah noone reads the docs |
| 16:49.03 | JeffM2501 | don't know why I bothered to write them |
| 16:49.05 | JeffM2501 | but if I didn't |
| 16:49.11 | DTRemenak | I read them ;) |
| 16:49.15 | JeffM2501 | people would complain that there were no docs :) |
| 16:49.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah but for you I could have put the docs as code comments and you'd read them ;) |
| 16:49.31 | DTRemenak | guess that's life, the people who don't need to read the docs are the only ones that do... |
| 16:50.38 | ToughShooter | If one wants to tweak network protocoll for example no ducumentation wouldn't be so nice |
| 16:50.54 | DTRemenak | heh, there's no documentation for the net protocol ;) |
| 16:51.39 | JeffM2501 | puting the docs in the code makes sure that you only get moders who are savy enough to read the code ;) |
| 16:52.07 | ToughShooter | Hmm, doxygen |
| 16:52.16 | JeffM2501 | it was started at one point |
| 16:52.24 | JeffM2501 | but like so many other things...droped |
| 16:54.25 | ToughShooter | I've a lot of trouble reading others code :( |
| 16:55.26 | JeffM2501 | well if you want to be a programer as a profession that's a skill you are going to need. |
| 16:55.42 | JeffM2501 | unless you want to niche yourself into very small projects |
| 16:56.53 | JeffM2501 | only 24 more dlls to go then I am free :) |
| 16:58.25 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, do they do group projects at them fancy schools you go to? |
| 17:01.14 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: yeah, in certain classes |
| 17:01.51 | JeffM2501 | you'd think that would be a big thing for programing ones |
| 17:02.03 | JeffM2501 | but then I guess that could lead to somone carying a group |
| 17:02.37 | DTRemenak | yeah, you have to do at least one project class in your junior and senior year |
| 17:02.37 | DTRemenak | which involve groups of 3 or 4 doing a major project |
| 17:02.48 | DTRemenak | gtg to bakersfield, back in ~12 hours ;) |
| 17:04.44 | JeffM2501 | have fun :) |
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| 17:18.54 | Pimpi_ | my latest build of bzflag client tells it?s distributed under the terms of LGPL, is this intended? |
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| 17:19.10 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 17:19.17 | JeffM2501 | it's been LGPL for a while |
| 17:19.21 | JeffM2501 | years even |
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| 17:20.42 | Pimpi_ | client only? i?m sure i?ve seen GPL headers only recenty |
| 17:20.57 | JeffM2501 | the entire project is LGPL |
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| 17:21.12 | JeffM2501 | if somone did it as GPL, then that's a mistake |
| 17:21.27 | JeffM2501 | or a 3rd party head we use |
| 17:21.31 | JeffM2501 | like regex |
| 17:21.34 | JeffM2501 | or ares |
| 17:22.35 | JeffM2501 | I don't remember the exact reason why Tim redid it as LGPL, but there was one :) |
| 17:23.12 | JeffM2501 | the only diference would be IIRC, is that somone could make like a "libBZFlag" and then link to it and sell the code that links to it |
| 17:23.25 | JeffM2501 | and the posibility of THAT happening is small ;) |
| 17:25.38 | JeffM2501 | he did it on 6/9/03 acording to CVS |
| 17:25.55 | ToughShooter | Hmm, a plug-in that checks for cheating could also be closed source with LGPL, AFAIK |
| 17:25.57 | JeffM2501 | with the message "BZFlag released under LGPL v2.1 if anybody cares" |
| 17:26.01 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 17:26.04 | Pimpi_ | just i remember a discussion where somebody asked for changing to LGPL and Tim refused |
| 17:26.06 | JeffM2501 | people could sell plugins |
| 17:26.50 | Pimpi_ | afterwards i never really cared for licenses |
| 17:34.36 | JeffM2501 | well that wouldn't be the first time Tim has changed his mind ;) |
| 17:35.30 | cosmos | juicyjoes tank of love, now there is a nickname |
| 17:36.53 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 17:39.36 | Aribeth | a guy in eq2 has the name "mrschnazypants" |
| 17:42.03 | cosmos | we had a "Hitlers Proctologist" awhile back |
| 17:42.14 | Aribeth | lol |
| 17:42.44 | Aribeth | a friend called hin mr fancy panties after he got nasty in the group |
| 17:43.45 | SportChick | ARIBETH!!! |
| 17:43.54 | Aribeth | hi Sporty |
| 17:44.05 | SportChick | hey!! where've you BEEN? |
| 17:44.24 | JeffM2501 | gotta love games that give you a last name :) |
| 17:49.38 | gsnedders | Manu: that was just pure mean ;P |
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| 17:54.58 | Aribeth | good name jeff |
| 17:55.22 | Aribeth | which game? |
| 18:02.29 | JeffM2501 | DDO |
| 18:02.43 | JeffM2501 | brb, got yet another new LCD, have to restart |
| 18:07.47 | Manu | gsnedders: ?? |
| 18:09.29 | gsnedders | Manu: your email on the mailing list |
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| 18:10.30 | Manu | gsnedders: ah |
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| 18:13.23 | JeffM2501 | mmm dvi dual input goodnes :) |
| 18:15.38 | brlcad | ya sashla su ma |
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| 20:10.42 | [NP]Tangent | ~bzfquery nullbzflag.gotdns.com |
| 20:10.49 | [NP]Tangent | good |
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| 20:16.32 | CIA-6 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10projectTitan/ (TitanLogo.psd titanIcon.png): |
| 20:21.48 | amcnabb | I'm just curious: What's the reason for the underscore in the BZDB variable _tankAngVel? |
| 20:23.25 | JeffM2501 | _ means it's setable by the server |
| 20:23.54 | amcnabb | oh, ok |
| 20:23.57 | amcnabb | That makes sense. |
| 20:25.47 | CIA-6 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10projectTitan/ (main.cs project.titan/main.cs): |
| 20:39.25 | [NP]Tangent | hey Jeff |
| 20:39.31 | JeffM2501 | sup |
| 20:39.35 | [NP]Tangent | I'm adding an arc, and it connects to a ledge of one of my fortresses |
| 20:39.42 | [NP]Tangent | but I can't drive off of the box onto the arc |
| 20:39.47 | [NP]Tangent | and they are at the same height |
| 20:39.50 | [NP]Tangent | any ideas why? |
| 20:39.51 | JeffM2501 | arcs are done internal as meshes |
| 20:39.54 | JeffM2501 | it's a known issue |
| 20:40.20 | JeffM2501 | basicly it's a bug |
| 20:40.26 | [NP]Tangent | ah |
| 20:40.26 | JeffM2501 | it may be fixed in 2.1 |
| 20:40.30 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 20:40.32 | [NP]Tangent | that would be lovely |
| 20:40.48 | [NP]Tangent | I can live without this arc |
| 20:41.58 | L4m3r | you can also change the boxes to meshboxes |
| 20:42.05 | L4m3r | that would fix the problem |
| 20:42.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's only the box -> mesh transision that is jacked |
| 20:43.05 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 20:43.14 | [NP]Tangent | well, I'd have to change the entire fortress then |
| 20:43.19 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 20:43.21 | [NP]Tangent | at least anything that's on the top |
| 20:43.27 | JeffM2501 | just replace the word box with meshbox ;) |
| 20:43.36 | [NP]Tangent | that easy? |
| 20:43.37 | [NP]Tangent | wow |
| 20:47.06 | [NP]Tangent | well Jeff, that's all fine and dandy |
| 20:47.08 | [NP]Tangent | what about the base? |
| 20:47.10 | [NP]Tangent | :P |
| 20:47.21 | JeffM2501 | that's the one there isn't a mesh for IIRC |
| 20:47.50 | [NP]Tangent | how about if I raise it up by 1 unit, then set its height to 0? |
| 20:47.54 | [NP]Tangent | might that work? |
| 20:48.02 | JeffM2501 | try and see |
| 20:48.24 | [NP]Tangent | my word |
| 20:48.28 | [NP]Tangent | 1604 lines in my BZW file |
| 20:49.19 | L4m3r | if you raise it like 0.05 it seems to work ok |
| 20:49.33 | JeffM2501 | then it's a small fall |
| 20:52.20 | [NP]Tangent | ah |
| 20:52.23 | [NP]Tangent | raised it by 0.01 |
| 20:52.28 | [NP]Tangent | and it works |
| 20:52.52 | [NP]Tangent | I should make some textures |
| 20:52.53 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
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| 21:11.56 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 21:12.27 | [NP]Tangent | that map rocks though |
| 21:12.59 | [NP]Tangent | jesus |
| 21:13.05 | [NP]Tangent | this girl will NOT leave me alone |
| 21:13.10 | JeffM2501 | umm realy man |
| 21:13.13 | [NP]Tangent | dunno how hard it is to notice that I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO HER |
| 21:13.14 | JeffM2501 | we don't care |
| 21:13.15 | [NP]Tangent | :-\ |
| 21:13.21 | JeffM2501 | save it for your blog |
| 21:13.26 | [NP]Tangent | blogs are stupid |
| 21:13.29 | [NP]Tangent | IRC rants are where it's at |
| 21:13.40 | JeffM2501 | not in this channel |
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| 21:38.51 | GlaDiaC | hi |
| 21:39.08 | GlaDiaC | is there support for quad buffering too |
| 21:40.42 | GlaDiaC | or only red-blue anaglyph |
| 21:45.56 | JeffM2501 | there are only a couple modes supported, sterio, stacked, three, and anaglyph |
| 21:50.09 | GlaDiaC | -view stereo |
| 21:50.23 | GlaDiaC | I'll test it tomorrow at the university |
| 21:50.30 | JeffM2501 | that usualy does an interlace |
| 21:50.40 | GlaDiaC | we have a stereo beamer with 120Hz and shutter glasses |
| 21:50.41 | JeffM2501 | basicly just tells GL to allocate a sterio buffer |
| 21:50.49 | JeffM2501 | that's pobably what you need then |
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| 21:59.05 | [NP]Tangent | hey meteorite |
| 21:59.08 | [NP]Tangent | on your server |
| 21:59.14 | A_Meteorite | boxy war? |
| 21:59.14 | [NP]Tangent | boxy war |
| 21:59.17 | A_Meteorite | yes? |
| 21:59.17 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 21:59.25 | [NP]Tangent | you should have a Geno world weapon in the center |
| 21:59.26 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 21:59.33 | [NP]Tangent | so people are less inclined to grab that flag |
| 21:59.38 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 21:59.51 | A_Meteorite | I was thinking of taking it out all the way and award points when you cap the flag. |
| 22:00.07 | [NP]Tangent | sounds good |
| 22:00.15 | [NP]Tangent | I'm sitting here on my server |
| 22:00.20 | [NP]Tangent | waiting for a blue to show up |
| 22:21.17 | [NP]Tangent | so |
| 22:21.25 | [NP]Tangent | when does bz come out on the game boy color again? |
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| 22:45.19 | trepan | JeffM2501: whatcha doing with TitanAE? |
| 22:45.44 | JeffM2501 | just like the name :) |
| 22:50.58 | brlcad | wasn't a bad flick either |
| 22:56.15 | JeffM2501 | no it was not |
| 22:56.31 | JeffM2501 | it sadly did not do as well as it should have |
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| 23:39.11 | Gnurdux | menotume, you there? |
| 23:40.25 | orange | ever seen that segment of some show... jimmy something... unnecessary censorship? |
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