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00:02.48blast007hehe
00:03.12TimRikerI_Died_Once: just email me for a hostname pointer. specify a name or ip to point it to.
00:03.22DTRemenakmessing with people's timestamps is a terrible thing to do :)
00:11.13CBG`WHAT?! someone actually _did_ that? :O
00:11.42DTRemenakCBG`: see man 1 touch :)
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00:32.33CIA-17BZFlag: 03timriker 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/debian/changelog.in: 2.0.8 release history
00:34.44CIA-17BZFlag: 03timriker 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (configure.ac debian/rules): work around broken debian buildd boxes that have ccache but cannot use it
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00:45.52spldart<:-x
00:50.35GnurduxTimRiker, yeah you gotta
00:50.41Gnurduxor they wont put it in testing
00:50.44Gnurduxit isn't building on HPPA
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00:51.36TimRikerGnurdux: I added and used a --disable-ccachetest  to configure.
00:51.46Gnurduxah
00:51.58TimRikerthe hppa build failed cause ccache is installed but won't run under buildd.
00:52.08Gnurduxi see
00:52.13TimRikernothing to do with hppa, just a broken machine.
00:52.24TimRikerso debian builds don't try ccache anymore.
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01:02.25spldart:(... and to think... I just added ccache :(
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01:07.15maquisquick question.  i'm looking at the serverlist on my.bzflag.org, and was wondering if the list only includes bzflag2 servers...
01:07.18maquiswe
01:07.36maquisre actually looking for a bzflag1 server at the moment
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01:10.59DTRemenakmaquis: it includes all servers 1.10 and newer
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01:58.11spldart>maquis... bzflag.org shows my 1.10.9, 2.0.x and 2.1.x at this time
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02:27.44spldartBzzzzzzt!!!
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03:25.05bradHi, any idea why I get this error when loading this plugin:
03:25.08bradPlugin:./flagReset.so not found, error ./flagReset.so: undefined symbol: _ZNSs4_Rep20_S_empty_rep_storageE
03:29.39L4m3rAlso, for anyone that can answer... I know that using a transparent texture instead of an alpha blend will improve performance in meshboxes, etc. Is the same true of mesh faces?
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04:14.21wegstarlan56...
04:20.32lan56dev-c++ is messed up again, huh?
04:26.05wegstarnope.. just wondering whether it can compile a "bzfs.a" ;)
04:26.23lan56ahh, the plugins thing
04:26.34wegstaryep
04:26.51lan56it should be able to as it uses gcc, and mac uses gcc and can do it, I just have yet to understand how its done
04:27.01wegstarok
04:27.05lan56so my guess is as good as yours currently :(
04:27.12cosmoswhat are you trying to compile
04:27.29lan56the bzfs.a file to build plugins with on Dev-C++
04:27.50cosmoson what platform os x
04:27.52cosmos?
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04:28.00lan56no windows
04:28.15cosmosahh, i have a date with os x compiling this weekend
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04:29.05wegstarlan56: bzfs.lib is composed of just some specific compiled sources for bzfs... yes?
04:33.40lan56correct but it extracts the object files from the bzfs compilation, or something like that
04:33.54lan56so it isn't just another project
04:34.11wegstarwhich ones? ;)
04:34.21lan56well, thats the part I am unsure of
04:34.21JeffM2501the lib in regular windows builds is not just "some files"
04:43.11maquisDTRemenak, spldart: thanks!
04:43.31maquis(sorry to disappear after asking)
04:44.02lan56wegstar: I am trying something regarding bzfs.a, it might help hold on
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04:56.50lucky_philCan anyone tell me how I register?
04:57.09lan56go to stats.bzflag.org/bb and register
04:57.20lucky_philok
04:58.14lucky_philI didn't put the stats at the front and was trying just bzflag.org/bb Thankyou
04:58.21lan56np
04:58.31lan56enjoy bzflagging
05:06.18lan56ahh actually forget what I was trying, wegstar
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05:40.57silverfoxis sf.net cvs working right now?
05:41.14Mr_Molezshould be
05:42.00Mr_Molezits been working the past week or 2
05:43.39silverfoxcvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login
05:43.39silverfoxLogging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:2401/cvsroot/bzflag
05:43.53silverfoxand I get a "connection refused"
05:44.22bryjenthe host changed
05:45.16bryjenuse :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag
05:45.31Mr_Molez~bzcvs
05:45.33ibotcvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P bzflag   (this is for HEAD ie: 2.1 see also bz20cvs)
05:46.22silverfoxoh...
05:48.00silverfoxthanks much!
05:56.32silverfoxwhat ver of automake do I need for cvs these days?
06:01.15Mr_Molezminimum 1.6 or 1.8 cant remember :P
06:01.31trepansilverfox: read the top of autogen.sh
06:03.59silverfox1.6 it looks lile.
06:04.10silverfoxthe autogen.sh complains and tells you if you don't have the right one.
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07:04.11Silver[a]anyone seen menotume?   http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/61267
07:05.54DTRemenak~seen menotume
07:05.58ibotmenotume <n=meno@pdpc/supporter/active/menotume> was last seen on IRC in channel ##essy, 2d 5h 1m 2s ago, saying: 'isreal'.
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11:15.33I_Died_Onceis anyone alive in here that uses Slackware Linux?
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11:28.47PuMpErNiCkElNo, but I've used about half a dozen others... what's the issue?
11:32.59I_Died_Oncewondering if its a debain derivitave, and what kind of package manager is has
11:35.35PuMpErNiCkElIt isn't, and it doesn't really have one.
11:37.30PuMpErNiCkElNot by default, at least - I think there's something called 'slapt-get' that helps with stuff normally done by a package manager.
11:37.48PuMpErNiCkElOtherwise, you're dealing with tarballs and install scripts. :)
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15:01.50SportChick~seen brlcad
15:02.06ibotbrlcad is currently on #bzflag #brlcad ##ducleague. Has said a total of 68 messages. Is idling for 12h 30m 55s, last said: 'and that router seems to be back now'.
15:02.06SportChick~seen learner
15:02.08ibotlearner <n=sean@pdpc/supporter/silver/brlcad> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 16d 45m 37s ago, saying: 'by far more popular, unless you work for GM or defense .. then it depends'.
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15:25.05JeffM2501ahh such a nice day to be stuck at work :(
15:26.39blast007yeah...I have a feeling it will be a slow day today
15:27.07blast007been here for an hour and a half, and no students have showed up yet
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15:45.24Gnurduxhi A_Meteorite
15:45.28A_Meteoritehey
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17:11.35Kit||DwaggieHello BZFlag people, im new. Any chance of some help?
17:12.00A_MeteoriteWhat sort of help?
17:12.41Kit||DwaggieI looked into the game, seems really good. I just want to know a bit about getting started.
17:12.57A_MeteoriteOK, here's the basic buttons..
17:13.09Kit||Dwaggiebefore that, do i have to download to play?
17:13.13A_MeteoriteEnter (or mouse click) is too shoot, tab is to jump, spacebar is to drop a flag
17:13.18A_Meteoriteyes, you need to download it
17:13.22Kit||Dwaggiedo i have to pay money?
17:13.24A_Meteoriteno
17:13.26A_Meteoriteit's totally free
17:13.30Kit||Dwaggieis it a large file?
17:13.30A_MeteoriteWindows?
17:13.33Kit||Dwaggieyup win
17:13.38A_Meteoriteok
17:13.41blast007like 10MB download for windows
17:13.47A_MeteoriteI'll give you a direct link
17:13.53Kit||DwaggieThanks :)
17:14.14A_Meteoritehttp://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bzflag/bzflag-2.0.8.exe
17:14.46Kit||DwaggieSo once its downloaded?
17:14.52A_MeteoriteYou install it.
17:14.56Kit||Dwaggielol indeed :p
17:15.01A_MeteoriteAnd, it will be in your Start Menu and on your Desktop.
17:15.18A_MeteoriteI suggest you sign-up at the forums and get global registration down first: my.bzflag.org/bb
17:15.30A_Meteoritethat is NOT required, but some servers require it to talk or spawn
17:15.47Kit||Dwaggieis that another download?
17:15.48A_Meteoriteit just depends on the server settings, but that insures no one can take a name you choose
17:15.51A_Meteoriteno
17:15.55blast007no, it's just a forum registration
17:15.59Kit||Dwaggieok, thank you
17:16.05A_Meteoriteit's not *required*, but it's nice to have ;)
17:16.19Kit||Dwaggiehopefully my name wont be taken already :p
17:16.22A_Meteoriteheh
17:16.25A_MeteoriteI doubt it
17:17.15A_MeteoriteIf you tell me when it's installed I can have you go to a certain server and I can show you some basics. :)
17:18.00Kit||Dwaggiethat would be great, its almost done now. Ill go register at that thingo first then give you a shout :) thanks again
17:18.07A_Meteoritewelcome
17:18.17Kit||Dwaggiebtw, whats the community like here?
17:18.42A_Meteoriteusually kind :)
17:18.51A_Meteoriteand friendly/willing to help
17:19.23A_Meteoritewarning: you will come across some people that aren't worth being around, just like any other game, but they're easy to ignore
17:19.27A_Meteorite:P
17:19.47A_Meteoritebut, for the most part it's a caring close-knit community
17:20.42Kit||Dwaggiethats good to hear. Lol, yes all games have there "personalitys", however having been online for many years i know how to ignore them. :)
17:20.48A_Meteorite:)
17:21.51A_Meteoritebrb
17:22.04Kit||Dwaggiehow long for the comformation email to come through do you think? kk.
17:24.09JeffM2501it's usualy fast
17:24.17JeffM2501check your spam folders
17:24.22Kit||DwaggieHi Jeff. Thank you :)
17:24.37JeffM2501hi
17:24.48Kit||Dwaggienope its in neither spam or inbox
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17:25.31JeffM2501what username did you register?
17:25.46Kit||DwaggieErrr, probs not a good idea for me to tell peeps on here?
17:25.54JeffM2501umm why not?
17:25.55A_Meteoriteusername is fine to give out (back)
17:26.06Kit||DwaggieUsername: Dragonfang
17:26.12JeffM2501yeah it's the name you show up in game as
17:26.15Kit||Dwaggiewb Meteorite
17:26.42Kit||Dwaggieahhh kewl kewl, i only clicked "register" link, i suppose it was for forums.
17:27.00JeffM2501it is for the froums and the game
17:27.02JeffM2501same user db
17:27.11Kit||Dwaggieok :)
17:27.15A_Meteoritethe forums give you something many people call global registration
17:27.24Kit||Dwaggieoh i see
17:27.27A_Meteoriteso, you get to make sure you keep your name and people really know you are you
17:28.45Kit||Dwaggiethats great
17:29.07Kit||DwaggieJeff are you a mod?
17:29.15Kit||Dwaggieor admin ?
17:29.23A_MeteoriteJeff, if you want to call it, the head guy
17:29.28A_Meteoritebesides Tim Riker - the maintainer
17:29.34JeffM2501huh?
17:29.36Kit||Dwaggiesweet
17:29.45A_MeteoriteJeffM2501: well, you always seem to be in charge :P
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17:29.56JeffM2501I just have a few bits set, that's all
17:30.02A_Meteoriteheh
17:30.12A_Meteoriteyou do most of the dev, don't you? ;)
17:30.21JeffM2501oh god no
17:30.23A_Meteoriteat least I see you commit more
17:30.30Kit||Dwaggie:D its wicked to see a game where one of the people at the top help newbies :) im impressed.
17:31.07A_Meteoritewell, you at least seem to be next to Tim Riker... what would you "official" position be then?
17:31.25JeffM2501I don't have one
17:31.32JeffM2501noone does other then tim
17:31.43A_Meteoriteheh, I've been around for a year and I don't know your position! :P
17:32.24JeffM2501people don't have asigned jobs
17:32.30JeffM2501they just do what they will
17:32.57A_Meteoriteheh ok
17:33.17Kit||Dwaggieok so im up and running, now what?
17:33.23A_Meteoritewell, we're still in good company with a dev
17:33.40JeffM2501join a game, and shoot people who arn't the same color as you, unless your black, then shoot everyone
17:33.41A_MeteoriteOpen BZFlag... now Join Game.
17:33.57A_MeteoritePut Dragonfang in as your callsign
17:34.04A_Meteoritethen put your forum password in to password
17:34.05Kit||Dwaggiekk 2secs
17:34.56Kit||Dwaggiedone :)
17:35.07A_Meteoriteok, let's go to a server...
17:35.35A_Meteoritego to brad.bz ePOCH
17:35.40A_Meteoriteit's on the first page
17:36.06Kit||Dwaggiehow do i enter it?
17:36.13A_Meteoritego to find servers
17:36.20A_Meteoritethen scroll down to that server and hit enter
17:36.28A_Meteoritethen select connect
17:36.37Kit||Dwaggiekk done
17:36.56A_MeteoriteI don't see you there
17:37.28Kit||Dwaggiei just got killed :p
17:37.36A_Meteoriteyou must be at the wrong server ;)
17:37.46Kit||Dwaggieoh, it was first page, there is loads of people in here.
17:40.33A_MeteoriteKit||Dwaggie: hello?
17:40.54Kit||Dwaggiehi soz
17:41.01A_Meteoriteuse n to talk
17:41.08Dragonfangim registered as that
17:41.12A_Meteoriteok
17:41.21A_Meteoritego back to bzflag and use n to talk
17:41.23A_MeteoriteI'm A Meteorite
17:41.25DragonfangDwaggie is for short and Kit is my real name
17:41.36Dragonfangcan we go in a quiet room? so i can learn?
17:41.43A_Meteoritesure
17:42.27A_MeteoriteI'll have you enter the server manually, hold on
17:42.59Dragonfangkk :)
17:43.22A_Meteoritefor server erase what's in there and enter:
17:43.28A_Meteoritebzf.yi.org
17:43.37A_Meteoriteand make sure port it set to 5154
17:43.42A_Meteoriteconnect
17:43.55Dragonfang2secs
17:44.56Dragonfangok im there
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17:45.39Dragonfanghow do i talk in there?
17:45.49A_Meteoritepress n
17:45.56A_Meteoritethen what you want -> enter
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17:49.23Dragonfangi turned off the speach window, how do i put it back on?
17:50.59blast007w
18:01.43DragonfangThat was fun, but i need to get used to the controls
18:01.56Dragonfangthankies btw Blast
18:02.00A_Meteoriteyeah, it takes awhile
18:02.36A_Meteoritego to viper2.pimpi.org:5158
18:02.46A_Meteorite5158 is the port, the rest is the server
18:03.45A_Meteoriteack, it's full now
18:03.48Dragonfangsee you in there
18:03.51A_Meteoritewait
18:06.29DTRemenakI_Died_Once: I use slackware, yes.  The default package management system is pkg.  It's very minimal.
18:07.23DTRemenakyou can put slapt or rpm or pkgsrc or any other more powerful package manager on top of it if you want.
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18:37.15*** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 UNSTABLE, use for new commits || 2.0.8 is released react acordingly
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18:41.07JeffM2501From the begining there as been one mission... blaze across the universe....
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18:55.54cb22i have this weird menu problem running bzflag 2.0.8 (and previous versions) under windows, can anyone here help me?
18:56.07JeffM2501what is the problem?
18:56.51cb22well in the main menu, instead of displaying a font there are just lines
18:57.09cb22however, if i start a game and press esc. everything is fine
18:57.09JeffM2501what video card?
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18:57.13cb22i815
18:57.17JeffM2501eww
18:57.21cb22dont laugh
18:57.23JeffM2501current drivers ( not from MS )
18:57.26JeffM2501?
18:57.28cb22its all i can afford :/
18:57.31cb22yes
18:57.35cb22off intel's website
18:57.43cb22gl-117 and tuxracer work fine
18:57.53JeffM2501we do fonts as textures
18:58.02JeffM2501let me find the line to set bitmap fonts
18:58.03JeffM2501one sec
18:58.08cb22thanks
19:00.52JeffM2501in your config file, put "set useBitmapFontRenderer 1"
19:00.53JeffM2501with no " "
19:00.57JeffM2501then run
19:01.03JeffM2501that may help with that crap video
19:03.40cb22still the same thing
19:03.48cb22i have a screen shot if it would help
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19:06.13cb22erm
19:06.16cb22forget what i said
19:06.20cb22i'm an idiot
19:06.27cb22i forgot to save the config file
19:06.31blast007:)
19:06.33cb22it works great, thanks
19:07.06cb22i just moved from linux to windows so i'm feeling a little out of place :(
19:07.40JeffM2501heh
19:07.59JeffM2501well from what I've seen the drivers for the intel crap are better on windows, more people use em
19:08.11JeffM2501but if your not on a laptop, you may want to look at a cheap card with a GPU
19:08.19cb22on a laptop
19:08.23cb22a 5 year old one
19:08.35JeffM2501sounds like it's time to upgrade :)
19:08.38cb22yeah
19:08.53cb22although i dont have much cash to spare
19:09.07cb22which kinda sucks
19:09.30cb22also computer prices in south africa are extreamly high
19:09.55JeffM2501ahh
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19:13.50Gnurduxhi QuantumBeep
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19:48.12JeffM2501baby got purple hair, baby got a secret lair, baby got an army there, i ain't ever seen baby scared.
19:48.12JeffM2501Baby' got an atom bomb!
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20:33.10RPG_have there been any reports of BZ 2.0.6 crashing the X Windows server?
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20:57.50I_Died_Onceare there some kind of new restriction when it comes to list servers on the list?
20:58.03GnurduxI_Died_Once, did you make the server public?
20:58.07I_Died_Onceof course
20:58.22GnurduxRPG_, umm, no, unless its crashing your vidcard, which it sometimes does to me
20:58.59I_Died_Once-p 4265
20:59.01I_Died_Once-public "Planet MoFo: The Passion Of The Flag Capture! Red vs. Blue!"
20:59.08I_Died_Once-publicaddr 1planetmofo.servebeer.com:4265
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20:59.22Gnurduxand it doesnt show up?
20:59.41I_Died_Oncenope
20:59.46I_Died_Oncecheck and see if you can
20:59.49I_Died_Oncecause i cant
20:59.57Gnurduxits not there
21:00.07JeffM2501run with -d -d -d and see if the list says Hi back
21:00.32Gnurduxaha
21:00.36GnurduxI_Died_Once, found the problem
21:00.47Gnurduxis it servebeer.com ,or .org or something
21:01.00I_Died_Oncewe been using that alias for a time now
21:01.09Gnurduxcause i cant resolve 1planetmofo.servebeer.com
21:01.20Gnurduxgnurdux@Mikey:~$ ping 1planetmofo.servebeer.com
21:01.20Gnurduxping: unknown host 1planetmofo.servebeer.com
21:01.40Gnurduxthey must have shut off your DNS
21:01.45Gnurduxso the list server is prolly blocking it
21:02.15JeffM2501it's not "blocking"it
21:02.15JeffM2501it just dons't list servers it can't get back to
21:02.15I_Died_OnceI figured Jeff or someone did it manually for whatever the rason is for the day
21:02.16Gnurduxye thats what i mean
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21:02.19Gnurdux*meant
21:02.36JeffM2501then say what you mean
21:02.47JeffM2501I_Died_Once, check your domain hoster
21:02.58JeffM2501no-ip or dynadns what ever you use
21:03.05JeffM2501and make sure the alais is still good
21:03.16JeffM2501I_Died_Once, we don't just ban server
21:03.28JeffM2501please at least give us some credit for that and stop the bashing
21:05.58Gnurduxi don't think he's "bashing" just saying what he thought it might be caused by
21:06.47JeffM2501Gnurdux, don't go there
21:07.07I_Died_Oncesorry, seems like a fair question & assumption
21:07.13I_Died_Onceworking on it now
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21:07.30GnurduxJeffM2501, go where?
21:07.32JeffM2501sure after you check that your own stuff dosn't work ;) not the first thing
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21:17.05I_Died_Oncewhats our beloved maintainer, Tim Riker's email address, anyone know?
21:18.54CBGsee www.rikers.org
21:19.05CBGprobablu just tim@rikers.org, iirc, but check.
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22:22.06Dragonfang||brbw00t all :)
22:22.49I_Died_OnceI'm sooo ready for tomorrow's season finale of the Sopranos
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22:26.03BearPersonbzflag + high texture settings + weird vga driver = esotericflag
22:26.09BearPersonhttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1011/bzfi00015li.png
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22:31.08lan56yet another IRC bot?
22:31.18cruel_dogsorry
22:31.21cruel_dogi made him leave
22:31.24cruel_dogits mine
22:31.49lan56hah no I didnt mean it that way, it just reminded me of in general how the irc bot is popular thing to develop
22:31.58cruel_doglol
22:32.08lan56over and over again with each new brand of bot it seems like a reinvention of the wheel
22:32.08ruskieit was just a supybot :)
22:32.12lan56ahh
22:32.13cruel_dogyea
22:32.20cruel_dogso?
22:32.23cruel_dogits stil la bot, lol
22:32.25ruskiejust look at the ident field :)
22:32.31cruel_dogyea, rofl
22:32.49cruel_doglol
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22:49.30Punkusis there a change list for 2.1?
22:49.45Punkuslike, whats been added so far
22:50.06lan56yes CVS HEAD "NEWS"
22:50.15CIA-17BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/common/AccessList.cxx: unsigned glob tests
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22:50.37DTRemenakPunkus: http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag/NEWS?revision=2.22&view=markup
22:50.39CIA-17BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/common/AccessList.cxx: unsigned glob tests
22:50.49Punkusthanks
22:52.21DragonfangHey, could someone please try and answer a question of mine?
22:52.35DTRemenakDragonfang: not if we don't know what the question is
22:52.44lan56~ask
22:52.45ibotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a quesiton first.  Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily.  See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
22:53.01DragonfangDTRemenak: i better ask the question then :p
22:53.08DTRemenakyeah, you better :P
22:53.21Dragonfangdo people form clans or alliances or groups etc on BZFlag?
22:53.25lan56yes
22:53.30Dragonfangoh and thankies Mr Bot :p
22:53.31DTRemenak"teams" generally
22:53.37Dragonfangahhh kk
22:53.47DTRemenaksee for example http://my.bzflag.org/league/
22:53.51Dragonfanghow does someone go about finding out which teams are good etc?
22:54.07Dragonfangahhh on the link i expect
22:54.11DTRemenakthere are several leagues which play different styles
22:54.15DTRemenakthat's the ducati-style league
22:54.21DTRemenak(2 shots, no jumping, no flags)
22:54.46DTRemenakevery league keeps records on which teams win which matches
22:55.03DTRemenakso find out what style you want to play, find the league for that style, and see who's doing well
22:55.29DragonfangThanks very much DTR
22:55.35DTRemenakno problem :)
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22:57.44CIA-17BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/NEWS: update with 2.0.8 changes
23:01.36trepanDTRemenak: also filter the server list based on ServerAccess.txt, or mark them?  (knowing that the feature is probably never used)
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23:02.41DTRemenaktrepan: I have no idea.  ServerAccess is not my stuff :)
23:03.09Punkustrepan: you wrote a tutorial on bzmap, aye? whats the url?
23:03.10theMogul_<PROTECTED>
23:03.21Punkusheh
23:04.39trepanbzmap is cods' python thing, iirc
23:05.10Punkusyeah
23:05.18trepanmy scripter with bzmapper, entirely different
23:05.29PunkusI think you made a tut on that
23:05.36Punkusor that might've been cod's
23:06.36theMogul_<PROTECTED>
23:07.08lan56theMogul_, take out the space for goodness sakes
23:07.26lan56the first character should not be anything but /, not even whitespace like you have
23:07.52theMogul_ah!
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23:17.35Punkushey A
23:17.37Punkuswoop
23:17.41Punkushey A_Meteorite
23:17.45A_Meteoritehello
23:17.52A_MeteoriteI don't think I know you. ;)
23:18.37DTRemenakdoes that mean he can't say hey to you? :)
23:19.54A_Meteoriteheh
23:19.56lan56can't we live in a society without classes? where one stranger can greet another, rather than strictly friend to friend? where one can brighten a person's day by saying, "hello", meaning "I don't know you, but I accept you as a human and you are welcomed in my eyesight and thought process"?
23:19.57A_Meteoriteno ;)
23:20.11A_Meteoritelan56: that's not what I meant...
23:20.14lan56:) jk
23:20.17lan56I am kiding with you
23:20.21A_Meteoritelan56: I just wanted him to introduce who he is :P
23:20.22A_Meteoriteok
23:20.34lan56:) I know I am joking around with you
23:20.38A_Meteoriteheh
23:22.09PunkusI am a stranger in a hole
23:22.30Punkusjust watch the pile of dirt over there
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23:29.57lan56http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/Download heh the labels on how old each one is are funny
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