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| 00:13.40 | JeffM2501 | wow no cvs till wednesday |
| 00:14.05 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, does it say that on status> |
| 00:14.10 | Gnurdux | ~google sf status |
| 00:14.27 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, you don't need to use IRC for all things |
| 00:14.55 | JeffM2501 | and yes it says that on the status page |
| 00:15.08 | Gnurdux | ( 2006-04-03 14:04:56 - Project CVS Service ) As an update to the 2006-03-30 CVS outage, our current estimate is that CVS services will be back online (developer access) late Tuesday or early Wednesday (Pacific Timezone). |
| 00:15.09 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 00:15.15 | JeffM2501 | like I said |
| 00:15.29 | JeffM2501 | thanks for wasting all that text |
| 00:15.39 | Gnurdux | soryr |
| 00:15.58 | TD-Linux | I wonder why SF has to mess with CVS when it worked fine... |
| 00:16.06 | JeffM2501 | hardware failure |
| 00:16.10 | Gnurdux | TD-Linux, it was a hardware problem |
| 00:16.13 | TD-Linux | hardware? oh |
| 00:16.14 | Gnurdux | CVS server broek |
| 00:18.32 | JeffM2501 | well that'll probably push us off till saturday |
| 00:18.42 | JeffM2501 | cus it won't slow down till thrudsday AM |
| 00:18.52 | JeffM2501 | then will probalby not work right till firday |
| 00:19.22 | Gnurdux | is there any list of all of the BZFS BZDB vars and their functions? |
| 00:19.47 | JeffM2501 | the source code |
| 00:20.13 | Gnurdux | that doesnt have a concise list of functions |
| 00:20.20 | JeffM2501 | sure it does |
| 00:20.26 | JeffM2501 | it's just intersperced with other code |
| 00:20.28 | Gnurdux | only if you look all over it |
| 00:20.34 | Gnurdux | global.cxx has all vars |
| 00:20.34 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mean it dosn't exist |
| 00:20.37 | JeffM2501 | just you on't like it |
| 00:21.03 | JeffM2501 | that's what there is |
| 00:21.12 | Gnurdux | i guess its grep time :\ |
| 00:21.23 | JeffM2501 | well that is why you have a computer right? |
| 00:21.29 | JeffM2501 | to help you do things |
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| 00:32.09 | Gnurdux | whats flagAltitude JeffM2501 |
| 00:32.58 | JeffM2501 | look and see where it is used |
| 00:33.06 | JeffM2501 | CTRL+SHIFT+F3 |
| 00:33.15 | Gnurdux | bzfs/FlagInfo.cxx: const float flagAltitude = BZDB.eval(StateDatabase::BZDB_FLAGALTITUDE); |
| 00:33.24 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 00:33.34 | JeffM2501 | then look and see where the variable is used..... |
| 00:33.40 | Gnurdux | bzfs/FlagInfo.cxx: const float flightTime = 2.0f * sqrtf(-2.0f * flagAltitude / gravity); |
| 00:33.41 | Gnurdux | ahh |
| 00:33.57 | JeffM2501 | see that wasn't that hard was it? |
| 00:34.24 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: liar |
| 00:34.24 | Gnurdux | no |
| 00:34.40 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, you know me ;) |
| 00:35.18 | JeffM2501 | wonder if I could drop this flash drive off the roof and it be ok |
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| 01:16.09 | Gnurdux | whats updateThrottleRate |
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| 01:45.22 | Gnurdux | orange, want to see my completed theme plugin? |
| 01:45.41 | orange | Gnurdux: can't now... maybe in a couple hours |
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| 01:45.50 | Gnurdux | in a couple hours ill be asleep :P |
| 01:45.55 | Gnurdux | its 9:45 here |
| 01:46.00 | orange | yeah, same here |
| 01:46.15 | JeffM2501 | budump bum.. |
| 01:46.22 | Gnurdux | well i might not be asleep but my parents will think i am... |
| 01:46.29 | Gnurdux | and i wotn be able to be on comp |
| 01:46.38 | Gnurdux | im gonna try to move it up to my room this summer |
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| 01:47.19 | JeffM2501 | then you'll NEVER have to go outside.. it'll be AWESOME |
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| 01:47.59 | Atomica | ok! Before I ask for global groups... |
| 01:48.00 | JeffM2501 | then you can be on the internet ALL day long, and never have to talk to girls |
| 01:48.09 | Atomica | How do I use them on my sevrers? |
| 01:48.16 | JeffM2501 | read the post on them |
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| 01:48.19 | Atomica | sorry. :( |
| 01:48.25 | Gnurdux | wegstar, i made another plugin today |
| 01:48.26 | wegstar | :) |
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| 01:48.32 | wegstar | I see.. |
| 01:48.34 | Gnurdux | do you have time to check it out? |
| 01:48.42 | wegstar | and I didn't sleep at all yesterday :( |
| 01:48.45 | RPG_ | what does the API function "bz_getCurrentTime()" return? |
| 01:48.46 | Gnurdux | why not? |
| 01:48.49 | RPG_ | it doesn't seem to return seconds |
| 01:48.57 | wegstar | too much bzflag.. |
| 01:49.04 | JeffM2501 | RPG_: returns the current time |
| 01:49.08 | RPG_ | it returned this: "match_start_time60.453292179819044double" |
| 01:49.15 | RPG_ | at approximately 8:47 PM |
| 01:49.16 | JeffM2501 | ether epoch or time since app start |
| 01:49.24 | Gnurdux | wegstar, can you come for a minute: gnurdux.homelinux.net:5162 |
| 01:49.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah cus your server was on for 60 seconds |
| 01:49.31 | wegstar | fine |
| 01:49.34 | JeffM2501 | it's not a clock time |
| 01:49.47 | JeffM2501 | it's only usefull in comparing to other calls to it |
| 01:49.49 | JeffM2501 | for like timers |
| 01:49.59 | JeffM2501 | if you want the clock time there is another function |
| 01:50.00 | JeffM2501 | one sec |
| 01:50.02 | RPG_ | ok |
| 01:50.05 | RPG_ | no thats ok |
| 01:50.07 | RPG_ | i want a timer |
| 01:50.10 | Gnurdux | you could alos just use time() |
| 01:50.18 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux: not all OSs have that |
| 01:50.29 | JeffM2501 | current time gives you the "server time" |
| 01:50.42 | JeffM2501 | you can subtract it from another server time and get a timespan in seconds |
| 01:51.43 | wegstar | Gnurdux: very nice ;) |
| 01:52.00 | Gnurdux | i thought that way would be better than variable permissions |
| 01:52.06 | Gnurdux | variable permissions are annoying |
| 01:53.05 | RPG_ | wow, thanks JeffM2501 ! |
| 01:53.11 | JeffM2501 | wow? |
| 01:53.26 | RPG_ | put the finishing touches on the new Race to 7 :) |
| 01:53.26 | JeffM2501 | hardly wow worthy ;) |
| 01:53.27 | Gnurdux | wegstar, can you get brad? |
| 01:53.51 | RPG_ | offhand, anyone know how many digits an int can store? |
| 01:54.01 | Gnurdux | not digits |
| 01:54.02 | JeffM2501 | signed or unsigned? |
| 01:54.03 | wegstar | he's not on |
| 01:54.05 | RPG_ | signed |
| 01:54.09 | Gnurdux | its from like negative 9 billion to 9 billion |
| 01:54.09 | JeffM2501 | 2billion |
| 01:54.11 | Gnurdux | or something like that |
| 01:54.21 | JeffM2501 | +-2billionish |
| 01:54.22 | guu | JeffM2501: I'm sorry, I was listening to Fatboy Slim. |
| 01:54.30 | JeffM2501 | damn right guu |
| 01:54.30 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, 9 billion |
| 01:54.31 | guu | No idea! |
| 01:54.37 | Gnurdux | 32,000 ^2 |
| 01:54.39 | Gnurdux | or so |
| 01:54.43 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:54.49 | JeffM2501 | 2 ^ 32 |
| 01:55.02 | Gnurdux | which is? |
| 01:55.08 | RPG_ | i'm sure a BZFS server wont' be up as long to get to get a bz_getCurrentTime number TAHT high |
| 01:55.08 | JeffM2501 | 4294967296 |
| 01:55.10 | Gnurdux | thats 2 ^ 16 ^ 2 |
| 01:55.19 | JeffM2501 | do the math |
| 01:55.21 | Gnurdux | ok, your right |
| 01:55.25 | JeffM2501 | I know I am |
| 01:55.33 | Gnurdux | wegstar, it died |
| 01:55.35 | RPG_ | it's... sleeping |
| 01:55.37 | JeffM2501 | what kinda math they teach you in school Gnurdux ? |
| 01:55.40 | Gnurdux | i did some stuff |
| 01:55.45 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, geo this year |
| 01:55.55 | Gnurdux | wegstar, i got mb plugin working on linux |
| 01:55.57 | Gnurdux | but its dead |
| 01:56.00 | RPG_ | so would that make you 15 or 16? |
| 01:56.01 | JeffM2501 | so then you should have done basic algebra |
| 01:56.02 | wegstar | oh |
| 01:56.03 | Gnurdux | until RPG_ works on it |
| 01:56.07 | Gnurdux | RPG_, 14 |
| 01:56.08 | wegstar | ;) |
| 01:56.10 | JeffM2501 | RPG_: if you are worried about it, keep it as a float or double |
| 01:56.19 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, yes, but i dotn memorize powers of 2 |
| 01:56.38 | JeffM2501 | if you are going to do programing then you should at least remember the important ones |
| 01:57.31 | JeffM2501 | oh that's right your going to do university research... reality dosn't need to play for you ;) |
| 01:58.01 | Gnurdux | theoretical physicists set all the constants to 1 ;) |
| 01:58.08 | JeffM2501 | sure they do |
| 01:58.09 | Gnurdux | so they dont work in actual units |
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| 01:58.24 | Atomica | So wait, where can I find the groups? |
| 01:58.29 | purple_cow | well, to be fair, memorizing them is something that happens on its own after doing it for a while |
| 01:58.33 | Gnurdux | Atomica, jeff has to make you some |
| 01:58.39 | JeffM2501 | Atomica: you request them |
| 01:58.45 | JeffM2501 | or you use local groups |
| 01:59.09 | Atomica | but how would I call the global groups? |
| 01:59.13 | JeffM2501 | whooohoo... my ipod is busted |
| 01:59.23 | JeffM2501 | Atomica: from your groups file |
| 01:59.24 | Atomica | hehe, How? |
| 01:59.48 | JeffM2501 | did you read the post on them |
| 01:59.55 | Atomica | Jeff: But it's not like a link? And yes, yes I did |
| 02:00.14 | JeffM2501 | then you saw the part where it told you to make a groups file |
| 02:00.28 | Atomica | So BZFlag is really hooked up to the forums? |
| 02:00.33 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 02:00.37 | Atomica | No, I didn't see that |
| 02:00.42 | JeffM2501 | but it dosn't get the permisions from them |
| 02:00.48 | JeffM2501 | it has to know what permisions each group has |
| 02:00.55 | JeffM2501 | you set that in your group file |
| 02:01.35 | JeffM2501 | that way your permisions are secure |
| 02:01.41 | Atomica | What are some of the most common names? .admin, .com, but what's for registered users? |
| 02:01.45 | JeffM2501 | and noone on the forums can set your permisions |
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| 02:02.00 | JeffM2501 | do you want to give registered users difrent permisions then non reg? |
| 02:02.16 | Atomica | well just spawn and stuff |
| 02:02.21 | Atomica | like you suggested |
| 02:02.28 | JeffM2501 | do you want non-reg to spawn? |
| 02:02.32 | Atomica | no |
| 02:02.37 | Atomica | but talk |
| 02:02.39 | JeffM2501 | then you don't need a global group for that |
| 02:02.40 | Atomica | and talk only |
| 02:02.44 | Atomica | oh! |
| 02:02.54 | JeffM2501 | registered users have an automatic group |
| 02:02.58 | Atomica | What would they be called then? |
| 02:03.06 | JeffM2501 | let me find out |
| 02:03.16 | JeffM2501 | I think it's in the sample |
| 02:04.59 | JeffM2501 | from the man page |
| 02:05.00 | JeffM2501 | "The server will automatically create three groups: EVERYONE, VERIFIED, and LOCAL.ADMIN." |
| 02:05.22 | Atomica | ah |
| 02:05.27 | JeffM2501 | there is a big section about groups |
| 02:05.30 | JeffM2501 | have you read it? |
| 02:06.28 | Atomica | ok. So let's say i make aglobal group TEST.ADMIN, I'd just put TEST.ADMIN and then the perms and have that groups file load? |
| 02:06.28 | Atomica | on the man page? |
| 02:06.28 | Atomica | no, where is it? |
| 02:06.30 | JeffM2501 | what OS are you on? |
| 02:07.00 | Atomica | WINDOWS! (it sux, I kno) |
| 02:07.11 | JeffM2501 | actualy I have no problems with windows |
| 02:07.21 | JeffM2501 | your man pages will be in your start menu under the docs folder |
| 02:07.27 | JeffM2501 | in the bzflag shortcut dir |
| 02:07.44 | Atomica | it just has too many problems (viruses, crashes, ect.) |
| 02:07.53 | JeffM2501 | or you can view them on the web from www.bzflag.org -> geting help |
| 02:07.55 | Atomica | ok thanks |
| 02:08.03 | JeffM2501 | any computer can have problems, if it is not set up properly |
| 02:08.33 | Atomica | WTH? docs is empty! |
| 02:08.42 | JeffM2501 | then you have an old version |
| 02:08.47 | Atomica | WOW! I messed up my 2.0.4 up badly |
| 02:08.47 | JeffM2501 | use the web |
| 02:09.01 | Atomica | the /me doesn't work in bzfs! |
| 02:09.12 | JeffM2501 | again you probalby have an old version |
| 02:09.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah, can't say I've had a virus in a while |
| 02:09.31 | JeffM2501 | not one that affects anything |
| 02:09.32 | Atomica | of 2.0.4? |
| 02:09.37 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.4 is rather old |
| 02:10.47 | Atomica | whoich man page? |
| 02:11.00 | JeffM2501 | take a guess |
| 02:11.11 | Atomica | hahah sorry, it's a bit late |
| 02:11.13 | JeffM2501 | what program are you running |
| 02:11.41 | Atomica | and I think you need mods on the forums to delete the useless posts...err..spam |
| 02:11.51 | JeffM2501 | we have mods that do that now |
| 02:12.20 | JeffM2501 | it is generaly not a huge problem |
| 02:13.46 | Atomica | well over the past week, I've seen spam everyday and it doesn't get deleted |
| 02:14.17 | JeffM2501 | so you say there is spam there now? |
| 02:14.18 | JeffM2501 | where? |
| 02:15.03 | Atomica | General Discussion -> I posted last in it |
| 02:15.11 | Atomica | oh "How do I take screenshots |
| 02:15.15 | Atomica | last 2 |
| 02:15.23 | Atomica | err 3 including mine |
| 02:16.00 | JeffM2501 | that isn't spam |
| 02:16.03 | JeffM2501 | that's just an idiot |
| 02:16.10 | Atomica | hahahaha |
| 02:16.20 | JeffM2501 | and that's been there for like less then an hour |
| 02:16.27 | JeffM2501 | you just want to be an admin don't you? |
| 02:16.34 | Atomica | no |
| 02:16.40 | Atomica | I want a clean forum |
| 02:16.56 | JeffM2501 | then perhaps you could help by pointing them out |
| 02:16.59 | Atomica | i hate you is soo spam |
| 02:17.07 | Atomica | I just did! |
| 02:17.12 | Atomica | ;) |
| 02:17.17 | JeffM2501 | instead of publicly critizing the admin staff |
| 02:17.19 | JeffM2501 | send a PM |
| 02:17.26 | Atomica | Well I gtg, thanks bunch! |
| 02:17.27 | JeffM2501 | spam is more then one message over and over |
| 02:17.30 | Atomica | ok |
| 02:17.36 | JeffM2501 | that is more of a flame then anything else |
| 02:17.40 | Atomica | or pointless crap |
| 02:17.47 | JeffM2501 | please try to help the problem, and don't be part of it |
| 02:17.47 | Atomica | whatever |
| 02:17.56 | Atomica | Sorry. |
| 02:18.32 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 02:18.56 | purple_cow | gotta learn to filter out idiots if you're gonna read bzbb |
| 02:18.57 | JeffM2501 | what an idiot |
| 02:19.07 | JeffM2501 | then he'd never see his own posts |
| 02:20.12 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:20.20 | JeffM2501 | well I think this ipod is toast |
| 02:24.13 | JeffM2501 | what valid uses of TOR are there on freenode? |
| 02:24.53 | orange | political refugee programmers |
| 02:25.00 | JeffM2501 | ummm.. yeah.... |
| 02:25.10 | Mr_Molez | people disgruntled with bzflag ;) |
| 02:25.15 | bryjen | one is a number |
| 02:25.25 | JeffM2501 | cus that open source software they make will overthrow a guberment |
| 02:25.27 | bryjen | and for that matter, so is zero ;) |
| 02:25.46 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 02:25.52 | orange | well, maybe the decss guy |
| 02:25.54 | JeffM2501 | the only rason to use tor is to hde something :) |
| 02:27.01 | JeffM2501 | I think they use the refugee thing as there moral excuse to keep there botnet around |
| 02:27.31 | JeffM2501 | cus dissedents need warez too |
| 02:27.55 | bryjen | you don't live in a country where you might be incarcerated indefinately or executed for expressing your beliefs |
| 02:28.13 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure there are people in situations like that |
| 02:28.14 | orange | you think the guys hiding in the hills in afghanistan can just run into the store to get the latest version of ms office? |
| 02:28.27 | JeffM2501 | but I'm also sure that 99.999% of TOR users ARN'T in that situation |
| 02:29.05 | orange | 5 9's? |
| 02:29.10 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:29.16 | orange | that's a bold statement |
| 02:29.21 | JeffM2501 | a LOT of people use it for warez and stuff |
| 02:29.33 | Mr_Molez | what's wrong with that ? |
| 02:29.48 | JeffM2501 | ummm.. it's called theft |
| 02:30.02 | orange | Mr_Molez: regardless of your feelings on that, you can't say that they NEED to access irc anonymously just to do warez |
| 02:30.02 | bryjen | copyright infringement |
| 02:30.20 | JeffM2501 | it's also used for DOS and other atacks |
| 02:30.28 | JeffM2501 | just like freenode is experienceing now |
| 02:30.34 | JeffM2501 | it's good in concept |
| 02:30.43 | JeffM2501 | if everyone was honest |
| 02:30.51 | JeffM2501 | tho if everyone in the world was honest we'd not need it ;) |
| 02:30.52 | orange | anonymity leads people to act in ways they normally wouldn't |
| 02:30.58 | JeffM2501 | big time |
| 02:31.16 | bryjen | yes, the perpetrators of (MS)DOS must be stopped! |
| 02:31.16 | JeffM2501 | turns them into jackholes |
| 02:31.24 | Mr_Molez | :-S |
| 02:31.38 | JeffM2501 | you know all about it molez |
| 02:31.43 | Mr_Molez | I do ?? ;) |
| 02:32.26 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 02:32.28 | Mr_Molez | I would have got away with it too, if it wasn't from those meddling kids :P |
| 02:32.43 | JeffM2501 | actualy arn't we like older then you |
| 02:33.16 | Mr_Molez | don't take that literally, I was just quoting :) |
| 02:33.42 | bryjen | s/from/for/ |
| 02:33.48 | bryjen | and there's no dog here |
| 02:34.05 | JeffM2501 | gnardux could be the dog |
| 02:34.07 | orange | on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog |
| 02:34.13 | Mr_Molez | from = for ... lol JeffM2501 |
| 02:35.27 | JeffM2501 | hmmm now do I get another ipod, or something non apple..... |
| 02:35.44 | Mr_Molez | get a decent mobile phone that can play mp3's |
| 02:35.50 | JeffM2501 | I have one |
| 02:35.52 | JeffM2501 | it's not big enough |
| 02:35.57 | JeffM2501 | and I allways forget the cord |
| 02:36.13 | JeffM2501 | I use it when I go walking or riding |
| 02:36.24 | JeffM2501 | need something that can stay in the car |
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| 02:37.49 | Mr_Molez | I don't see why ipods have gotten so popular, apart from being able to get legal tracks easily |
| 02:38.00 | JeffM2501 | the software is slick |
| 02:38.03 | JeffM2501 | the interface is slick |
| 02:38.13 | JeffM2501 | they are rather easy to use |
| 02:38.27 | JeffM2501 | and for the flash based players, they have some of the cheapest ones ( the shuffle ) |
| 02:39.14 | Mr_Molez | get a new ipod then, that way you can't get disappointed :) |
| 02:39.29 | JeffM2501 | well the one thing it dosn't do well is transport music |
| 02:39.41 | JeffM2501 | since it's DRMed and stuff |
| 02:40.33 | JeffM2501 | my shuffle was a good deal when I got it but now I may want something a bit biger |
| 02:40.47 | Mr_Molez | get the video one |
| 02:40.59 | JeffM2501 | they are cool |
| 02:41.01 | JeffM2501 | but a bit thick |
| 02:41.12 | JeffM2501 | creative has a little 5 gig zen micor |
| 02:41.16 | JeffM2501 | micro |
| 02:41.57 | Mr_Molez | sweet |
| 02:44.24 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: are you any good at bzflag ? |
| 02:46.37 | purple_cow | hah |
| 02:49.12 | Mr_Molez | ~bzfquery links.bzflag.org:5190 |
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| 03:38.43 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez: nope |
| 03:38.51 | Mr_Molez | k :P |
| 04:04.47 | SportChick | Mr_Molez: I answered your question on #bzleague, but you had left :p |
| 04:05.10 | Mr_Molez | :P |
| 04:05.15 | Mr_Molez | pm or here ? |
| 04:05.44 | Mr_Molez | bbl |
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| 04:38.32 | Mr_Molez | nevermind i saw |
| 04:38.33 | Mr_Molez | bbl |
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| 17:14.03 | Birdie | jeffm2501 ping |
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| 17:37.22 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, ? |
| 17:43.47 | Birdie | ty |
| 17:43.52 | Birdie | ~jeffm2501++ |
| 17:43.57 | JeffM2501 | sure |
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| 18:56.55 | Sor | hey |
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| 20:02.55 | Mr_Molez | slow day |
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| 20:06.49 | SportChick | ~lart mr_molez |
| 20:06.57 | Mr_Molez | :( |
| 20:07.08 | SportChick | I was just trying to speed it up for you :) |
| 20:09.08 | slime_bzb | molez |
| 20:09.31 | Mr_Molez | yes ? |
| 20:09.38 | slime_bzb | u want to play 1 vs 1? |
| 20:10.04 | Mr_Molez | sorry i can't atm, maybe later |
| 20:10.07 | slime_bzb | k |
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| 20:21.48 | Atomica | Does Theme97 EVER get on here? And Hello! |
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| 20:59.01 | Birdie | bind F1 down fullscreen |
| 20:59.17 | Birdie | thats to make bzflag as a normal window you can minimilize and maximize? |
| 20:59.32 | Birdie | so you dont loose your whole screan to bzflag, but like its a normal program |
| 20:59.34 | Birdie | ? |
| 21:00.39 | Tupone | what is the question? |
| 21:01.12 | Birdie | i putted that in my config, but if i press F1 on bzflag, my bzflag doesnt go as a normal window but stays fullscreen |
| 21:01.20 | Birdie | how to make it as a normal window? |
| 21:01.23 | Tupone | windows ? |
| 21:01.26 | Birdie | yes |
| 21:01.48 | Tupone | I don't know if that work, I'm sure it work with SDL, but SDL is not there |
| 21:02.05 | Birdie | or any other line in my config that would help? |
| 21:02.21 | Chestal | Birdie: does anything at all happen when you press F1 then? |
| 21:02.24 | Birdie | no |
| 21:02.26 | Tupone | that fullscreen goes fron full to windowed and viceversa, when work |
| 21:02.56 | Chestal | Birdie: does -window command line parameter work? I am not familiar with bzflag on windows, either |
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| 21:03.35 | Gnurdux | CVS isnt up is it? |
| 21:03.52 | Birdie | chestal: how can i test that...?i dont see that command line:( |
| 21:04.00 | Birdie | you talked about the config? |
| 21:05.22 | Chestal | either start bzflag as 'bzflag -window' from the command prompt, or add '-window' parameter via the Windows shortcut somehow |
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| 21:05.44 | Chestal | if you want to switch between full/window, that won't help you though |
| 21:05.56 | Chestal | I'm sure someone who runs windows can help you a lot easier, maybe they're all asleep |
| 21:06.03 | Birdie | who does? |
| 21:06.18 | Birdie | do they excist here:) |
| 21:08.26 | Tupone | DTRemenak, blast007, JeffM2501, SportChick ... |
| 21:08.32 | Birdie | ok thx |
| 21:08.53 | Birdie | (ping to those) |
| 21:10.12 | brad2901 | Birdie: F1 doesn't put it back to windowed mode unless your client has been built with SDL, AFAIK |
| 21:10.29 | Birdie | and any idea how to do it without? |
| 21:10.53 | purple_cow | alt+tab should minimize in windows, I think |
| 21:11.15 | Birdie | it does, but that takes long long very long somethimes |
| 21:11.21 | CBG | Alt+Tab in windows is like Apple-Tab on mac. It lets you switch app.s. |
| 21:11.24 | Birdie | my screna goes black for 5 - 6 seconds |
| 21:11.27 | Birdie | screen* |
| 21:11.35 | brad2901 | minimize or window? /me should have read up |
| 21:11.40 | Birdie | and than it goes over, and crashes in 10% of the cases |
| 21:11.58 | Birdie | (bzflag crashes) |
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| 21:12.13 | Birdie | brad2901: yes was about windowed mode |
| 21:12.32 | brad2901 | k |
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| 21:14.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/README.MacOSX: sweet, cvs is apparently working again. updated Mac readme with details for both a source and binary distribution including suggestions for working around common issues. |
| 21:15.35 | TD-Linux | CVS IS BACK |
| 21:15.37 | TD-Linux | !!! |
| 21:15.38 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 21:15.41 | A_Meteorite | Woah |
| 21:16.14 | A_Meteorite | I didn't know CIA-3 was smart :) |
| 21:16.21 | A_Meteorite | are you smart, CIA-3? |
| 21:16.24 | A_Meteorite | hehe :P |
| 21:16.32 | TD-Linux | cia-3 only responds to 2 things |
| 21:16.38 | A_Meteorite | which are..? |
| 21:16.39 | A_Meteorite | ok |
| 21:16.40 | TD-Linux | and one other one... |
| 21:16.43 | TD-Linux | I forgot it |
| 21:16.46 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 21:16.54 | TD-Linux | ahh |
| 21:16.58 | TD-Linux | that's it |
| 21:16.59 | A_Meteorite | rofl |
| 21:21.51 | brlcad | ooooooh |
| 21:22.02 | CBG | oooooho? |
| 21:22.14 | brlcad | looks like cvs is back |
| 21:22.21 | brlcad | partially |
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| 21:23.10 | brlcad | sweet, just a delay, looks fully |
| 21:23.57 | JeffM2501 | yeah I don't think we'll realy get back in till tomorow night |
| 21:24.27 | CBG | that's good enough for me. I'll have the 2.0.6 please, waiter. |
| 21:24.27 | CBG | Not too well done... |
| 21:24.44 | JeffM2501 | you can have 2.0.5b7 |
| 21:27.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (README data/title.png package/win32/README.win32.html): update readmes and new title picture |
| 21:27.39 | JeffM2501 | well lookit that |
| 21:27.52 | CBG | On mac OS? |
| 21:27.54 | CBG | Has that std::isnan stuff been sorted? Last time I tried CVS it wouldn't work... |
| 21:28.15 | JeffM2501 | that is the first commit to bzflag since cvs went down |
| 21:28.27 | JeffM2501 | how would it magicaly get fixed? |
| 21:29.19 | CBG | The last time I tried CVS was probably a month ago, or maybe longer. |
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| 21:29.40 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it's been commited yet |
| 21:30.34 | JeffM2501 | have to see how well the cvs server handles the flood of users ;) |
| 21:30.40 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 21:30.45 | Gnurdux | The SourceForge.net Website is currently down for maintenance. |
| 21:30.51 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you have an authors file for me to read over? |
| 21:32.01 | Gnurdux | so CVS is up? |
| 21:32.06 | JeffM2501 | so it seems |
| 21:32.27 | Gnurdux | awesome |
| 21:32.35 | Gnurdux | then maybe you can release tomorrow |
| 21:32.44 | JeffM2501 | I'd not push it that fast |
| 21:32.47 | JeffM2501 | but soon yes |
| 21:33.02 | JBdiGriz | It's possible to work around the isnan stuff on MacOS. The hard part was getting one set of sources that would cover all cases. |
| 21:33.54 | JeffM2501 | you guys found a set that woudl work right? it just needs to be commited IIRC |
| 21:34.13 | JBdiGriz | I left brlcad with a few possibilities. He did all the hard work. |
| 21:34.42 | JeffM2501 | well I'm sure he'll get it in then |
| 21:35.38 | JBdiGriz | unless learner was distracting him again. |
| 21:35.46 | JeffM2501 | that bastard |
| 21:35.59 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (3 files): don't use colors when we don't need them, and don't set colors for effects that don't have them ( prevetns crashes ) |
| 21:36.38 | JeffM2501 | there that should fix my 2 |
| 21:36.55 | menotume | whoa ! |
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| 21:44.49 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added GUI option for email string display length |
| 21:45.13 | brlcad | JeffM2501: yeah, but it'll take me a bit to get to that now that cvs is back up |
| 21:45.32 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:45.37 | JeffM2501 | I'm gonna go home in a bit |
| 21:45.41 | JeffM2501 | I can look at it whenever |
| 21:45.57 | SportChick | ~defend learner |
| 21:46.01 | ibot | ACTION jumps in front of learner, taking all insults, violence and anything else negative thrown toward learner so that learner may live on in peace and quiet |
| 21:46.35 | Gnurdux | ~defend Gnurdux |
| 21:46.36 | ibot | ACTION jumps in front of Gnurdux, taking all insults, violence and anything else negative thrown toward Gnurdux so that Gnurdux may live on in peace and quiet |
| 21:46.39 | Gnurdux | yay |
| 21:47.10 | TD-Linux | ~nuke Gnurdux |
| 21:47.11 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Gnurdux ... B☢☢M! |
| 21:47.25 | Gnurdux | ˜ |
| 21:47.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/nagware/ (CHANGELOG.txt NAGSAMPLE.cfg nagware.cpp): Added option for including/excluding observers from player count trigger. |
| 21:47.37 | menotume | ~offend learner |
| 21:50.58 | JBdiGriz | ~brlcad++ |
| 21:56.16 | brlcad | and CIA springs to life all over the place.. |
| 21:56.18 | brlcad | beautiful |
| 21:56.44 | TD-Linux | I wonder what #commits is like |
| 21:56.55 | Gnurdux | its not |
| 21:57.10 | TD-Linux | I guess nobody else figured out that cvs is up yet |
| 21:59.23 | TD-Linux | the commits are speeding up... |
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| 22:09.06 | wizart | I really wish we could have a replay feature or something like that |
| 22:09.28 | wizart | This would enable us to see much much faster who is using smaller tanks |
| 22:10.06 | trepan | a replay feature (or something like that) already exists |
| 22:10.28 | A_Meteorite | the server has to include support |
| 22:10.48 | trepan | all 2.x servers support it |
| 22:10.59 | A_Meteorite | yes, but they owner has to set it up that way |
| 22:11.53 | trepan | recording can be enabled at any time |
| 22:12.06 | A_Meteorite | don't you have to set a file or directory? |
| 22:12.20 | trepan | $HOME/.bzf/recordings is the default |
| 22:12.26 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 22:12.32 | TD-Linux | of course, you should have a replay server :) |
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| 22:45.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/win32/VC8/ (bzfs.vcproj common.vcproj Makefile.in): compile, say I |
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| 23:36.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (52 files in 15 dirs): merge from v2_0branch. v2_0branch tagged as merge-2_0-2_1-11. |
| 23:39.02 | brlcad | woot |
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| 23:48.33 | DapperD | Question- I like this game, but I seem to be rather unsuccesful- as my shots dont kill anyone. Even multiple shots with a shockwave have no effect. My shots CONSTANTLY appear to pass through tanks- any suggestions? |
| 23:49.03 | JeffM2501 | what OS are you on? |
| 23:49.27 | DapperD | Linux. Ubuntu- Dapper Drake. Everything seems to be fine but that..... |
| 23:49.35 | JeffM2501 | AMD-64? |
| 23:49.41 | DapperD | (Yes, its a beta OS...) |
| 23:49.45 | DapperD | AMD 64 yes |
| 23:50.02 | JeffM2501 | the packages made for debian and ubuntu have some problems for some AMD64 users |
| 23:50.11 | DapperD | Ooohhh..... |
| 23:50.11 | JeffM2501 | usualy building from cvs source fixes it up for them |
| 23:50.18 | DapperD | Thanks! |
| 23:50.18 | JeffM2501 | with that EXACT same problem |
| 23:50.51 | JeffM2501 | basicly the packages were made on 32 bit systems |
| 23:50.58 | DapperD | Ill go do that then.. Anyone want to help me? As you can tell, I am a bit green with linux. |
| 23:51.06 | JeffM2501 | there is a readme in the sources |
| 23:51.09 | DapperD | OOh |
| 23:51.12 | DapperD | Yea |
| 23:51.16 | JeffM2501 | it should guide you thru it |
| 23:51.16 | DapperD | Thanks |
| 23:51.23 | DapperD | Have a great day! |
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| 23:53.51 | JeffM2501 | lan56: are the devC++ projects up to date? |