| 00:09.35 | JeffM2501 | why does every little coder kiddie say to me "you should make your own fork!!!?!" |
| 00:12.48 | brlcad | you should reply, "but I already have a spork" |
| 00:13.01 | A_Meteorite | Naw, a spoon is fine. |
| 00:13.12 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:13.14 | A_Meteorite | Those sporks are clumsy... |
| 00:13.23 | JeffM2501 | and kinda lame |
| 00:13.28 | A_Meteorite | Yeah... |
| 00:13.29 | JeffM2501 | I prefer chopsticks |
| 00:13.37 | A_Meteorite | Lol! |
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| 00:24.30 | SportChick | ~seen menotume |
| 00:24.33 | ibot | menotume is currently on #essy (1d 1h 16m 17s) #bzflag (1d 1h 16m 17s) #kierra (1d 1h 16m 17s) #bzleague (1d 1h 16m 17s) #silvercat (1d 1h 16m 17s) #bz-inc (1d 1h 16m 17s) #guleague (1d 1h 16m 17s). Has said a total of 327 messages. Is idling for 3h 26m 55s, last said: 'yo'. |
| 00:25.17 | JBdiGriz | JeffM2501: Whether you make a fork or a spoon, you should use a napkin. |
| 00:25.26 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:26.02 | JeffM2501 | I just find it funny |
| 00:26.09 | JeffM2501 | but then I find lots of things funny |
| 00:26.17 | JeffM2501 | like red dwarf |
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| 00:30.36 | JeffM2501 | wonder if we should just clear the ban list |
| 00:30.43 | JeffM2501 | probalby lots of trash bans in there now |
| 00:30.50 | JBdiGriz | Ready to have a discussion with cell again? |
| 00:31.17 | JeffM2501 | why does he allways keep trying to come back? |
| 00:31.25 | JeffM2501 | tho I don't think our bans hold him |
| 00:31.30 | JBdiGriz | I think he has a crush on you. |
| 00:31.32 | JeffM2501 | since he just changes name |
| 00:31.34 | JeffM2501 | I guess |
| 00:31.49 | JeffM2501 | I mean damn.. tha'ts some poor taste |
| 00:32.04 | JBdiGriz | You do seem to attract some of the more unusual characters |
| 00:32.19 | menotume | someone say something about me ? |
| 00:32.20 | JeffM2501 | <- patron saint of retards |
| 00:32.26 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.29 | JeffM2501 | the sporty was lookin for ya :) |
| 00:32.55 | menotume | yes, thx :) |
| 00:33.03 | JeffM2501 | I just don't know what 90% of the bans in there are for |
| 00:33.08 | JeffM2501 | or if they are even valid |
| 00:33.08 | JBdiGriz | ?? unusual character |
| 00:33.15 | JeffM2501 | tho the tor one I get |
| 00:33.24 | menotume | <== unusal character |
| 00:33.28 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:33.41 | JeffM2501 | ^^^^ very unusual |
| 00:33.48 | JBdiGriz | ???? |
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| 00:34.33 | JeffM2501 | wow that was big |
| 00:34.53 | JeffM2501 | like I say I don't think they are valid anymore |
| 00:35.01 | JeffM2501 | I left the cell name and tor |
| 00:35.06 | JeffM2501 | on principle :) |
| 00:35.23 | Mr_Molez | most of them will probably be my proxies ;) |
| 00:35.29 | brlcad | they're trustworthy to visit at least once in a while |
| 00:35.42 | JeffM2501 | +m took care of you mostly molez |
| 00:35.43 | guu | JeffM2501: are you 10? |
| 00:35.49 | JeffM2501 | yes guu I am |
| 00:36.17 | JeffM2501 | it was kind of impresive how efective +m was |
| 00:36.31 | Mr_Molez | :P yup worked well |
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| 00:47.09 | orchid | ~dict trying |
| 00:48.32 | brlcad | heh, backbreaking |
| 00:49.47 | JeffM2501 | I like devitalizing |
| 00:50.00 | ndim | BTW, on that windows zip thingy... CVS has the information which files are binary and which are not. If you remove the CVS/ dirs, that information is gone and you have to provide it in some other way. |
| 00:50.31 | ndim | And you would need that information to find out which files to convert lineending-wise. |
| 00:51.49 | ndim | orchid: That reminds me of words like "enstrengthen". |
| 00:52.34 | orchid | :) |
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| 00:56.44 | brlcad | ndim: there was a dist-zip-dos target provided by automake automatically at one point, CVS doesn't necessarily need to know if zip does it's job correctly.. have to test it |
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| 01:07.02 | menotume | uh ohs |
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| 01:21.52 | Atomica | aww NO TEPPIC! :'( |
| 01:21.54 | Atomica | bye |
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| 01:26.49 | Atomica | Does anyone know how to tile textures? |
| 01:27.03 | Atomica | I can't find it anywhere! |
| 01:27.16 | brlcad | that was horribly worded too, I meant we don't need CVS for that information if zip is doing it's job |
| 01:27.42 | brlcad | Atomica: sure, bring the texture into photoshop, turn on the tile filter |
| 01:27.45 | brlcad | viola |
| 01:28.02 | Atomica | uhh |
| 01:28.06 | blast007 | set them as your desktop background :) |
| 01:28.16 | Atomica | no no no |
| 01:28.24 | brlcad | heh, click the tile checkbox ;) |
| 01:28.25 | blast007 | I know what you mean...on an object |
| 01:28.28 | Atomica | Tile the textures on boxes for BZFlag |
| 01:28.40 | JeffM2501 | use a texture matrix |
| 01:28.51 | Atomica | But what do I edit in it |
| 01:28.52 | JeffM2501 | and make the UVs smaller |
| 01:28.57 | JeffM2501 | notepad |
| 01:29.03 | Atomica | It make no sense when used with 0.0 0.0\ |
| 01:29.13 | Atomica | WTH are UVs? |
| 01:29.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah 0 would make no sens |
| 01:29.24 | JeffM2501 | the texture coordindates |
| 01:29.31 | Atomica | uhh |
| 01:29.34 | JeffM2501 | you using a material? |
| 01:29.47 | Atomica | I see 7 things to fill |
| 01:29.51 | Atomica | yes |
| 01:30.05 | JeffM2501 | one part of the texture matrix is a scale IIRC? |
| 01:30.18 | Atomica | OMGOSH IIRC? |
| 01:30.24 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 01:30.34 | Atomica | it makes me thing of IRC |
| 01:30.38 | JeffM2501 | whatever |
| 01:30.40 | Atomica | what's IIRC? |
| 01:30.41 | JeffM2501 | you want help or not? |
| 01:30.44 | Atomica | yes |
| 01:30.46 | JeffM2501 | If I Recall Corectly |
| 01:30.53 | Atomica | Oh! |
| 01:31.04 | Atomica | Sorry :( I'm a bit upset |
| 01:31.13 | JeffM2501 | like that matters here |
| 01:31.21 | Atomica | well I go insane |
| 01:31.22 | JeffM2501 | set the scale on the texture matrix to less then 1 |
| 01:31.27 | Atomica | like up there |
| 01:31.29 | JeffM2501 | again like that matters here |
| 01:31.48 | JeffM2501 | if you can't keep yourself civl then there is no point helping you |
| 01:31.48 | Atomica | huh? why less than 1? |
| 01:31.59 | JeffM2501 | cus 1 is the normal scale |
| 01:32.03 | JeffM2501 | you want your textures to be smaller |
| 01:32.06 | JeffM2501 | so they repeat |
| 01:32.18 | brlcad | keep your insanity to yourself, I have my own insanity to worry about |
| 01:32.20 | Atomica | ok? |
| 01:32.37 | Atomica | oh oh I get it |
| 01:32.41 | JeffM2501 | actuay I think you want "fixedscale" |
| 01:32.42 | Atomica | like 100%? |
| 01:32.50 | JeffM2501 | 1 == 100% |
| 01:32.53 | ndim | brlcad: Hmm, so you're hoping that automake knows which files are binary and which are not. (BTW, it's written "voila", with a raising accent on the "a" :-) |
| 01:32.53 | Atomica | ok |
| 01:33.05 | JeffM2501 | you want like fixedscale 0.25 0.25 |
| 01:33.20 | Atomica | umm.. How do you know though? |
| 01:33.31 | JeffM2501 | you play with the numbers till you get the repeats you want |
| 01:33.36 | JeffM2501 | it depends on how big the object is |
| 01:33.47 | JeffM2501 | it a meshbox? |
| 01:34.00 | Atomica | I just want it to tile twice in X on a 20(X) box |
| 01:34.20 | JeffM2501 | and how many repeats is it doing now? |
| 01:34.21 | JeffM2501 | 1 ? |
| 01:34.37 | Atomica | IDK |
| 01:34.45 | Atomica | I haven't tested it yet |
| 01:34.48 | JeffM2501 | start at 0.5 and see |
| 01:34.57 | JeffM2501 | I forget how big a texture is |
| 01:34.59 | brlcad | and no, i'm hoping zip has a means to figure it out correctly |
| 01:35.02 | JeffM2501 | I think it's like 10 units |
| 01:35.02 | brlcad | we shall see |
| 01:35.07 | brlcad | zip has an option for it |
| 01:35.18 | Atomica | oh ok |
| 01:35.20 | brlcad | that's all dist-zip-dos did |
| 01:35.37 | Atomica | and I put the .png in the texture thing for the material? |
| 01:35.49 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:37.17 | Atomica | ok umm... It says -1 for no texmat but couldn't you just leave it out? |
| 01:37.19 | JeffM2501 | ahh yes, now I reember, 9.42 units for each texture repeat |
| 01:37.27 | JeffM2501 | what says -1? |
| 01:37.31 | Atomica | why can't it just be 10? |
| 01:37.40 | Atomica | the material |
| 01:37.42 | JeffM2501 | it's the number of your texture matrix |
| 01:37.44 | Atomica | for texmat |
| 01:37.53 | Atomica | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.01 | JeffM2501 | if you only have one texture matrix then you use 1 for it |
| 01:38.04 | JeffM2501 | or maybe it's 0 |
| 01:38.07 | JeffM2501 | probably 0 |
| 01:38.11 | JeffM2501 | -1 means don't use one |
| 01:38.14 | JeffM2501 | you want to use one |
| 01:38.29 | Atomica | don't I put the name? |
| 01:38.43 | JeffM2501 | you probably can |
| 01:38.50 | Atomica | ok |
| 01:38.55 | Atomica | so... |
| 01:39.33 | Atomica | I would declare the texmat with (scale or fixedscale) of .5 and then use that texmat for everything? |
| 01:40.04 | Atomica | so it's kinda like a CSS thingy (in web terms) |
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| 01:44.43 | brlcad | menotume: heh |
| 01:45.20 | JeffM2501 | umm eww |
| 01:45.36 | brlcad | menotume: did I mention how cool I think spawning policies are? |
| 01:45.58 | menotume | hmmmm |
| 01:46.04 | brlcad | :) |
| 01:46.19 | menotume | policies / algorthims, whaterever :) |
| 01:46.52 | brlcad | now just need to get people to write new ones |
| 01:47.00 | menotume | :) |
| 01:47.10 | menotume | i haven't looked at the class at all (yet) |
| 01:47.57 | brlcad | was thinking that it might make sense to have style-based methods .. RabbitSpawnPolicy, CtfSpawnPolicy, FfaSpawnPolicy, etc |
| 01:47.57 | JeffM2501 | dude don't be crass |
| 01:47.58 | Atomica | ok |
| 01:48.05 | Atomica | who me? |
| 01:48.23 | JeffM2501 | yes you |
| 01:48.59 | Atomica | sorry |
| 01:49.42 | Atomica | so about that simile |
| 01:49.49 | Atomica | is that right? |
| 01:50.45 | JeffM2501 | you would use it for the materals you want scaled yes |
| 01:50.52 | menotume | brlcad: dunno, depends on what a policy is, i guess |
| 01:50.54 | Atomica | ok |
| 01:51.05 | Atomica | woohoo! You ARE the BEST! |
| 01:51.12 | JeffM2501 | if you say so |
| 01:51.15 | brlcad | menotume: basically the same as the spawning algorithm |
| 01:51.23 | menotume | well, i mean |
| 01:51.25 | Atomica | And since you are an admin... Do you know if the forums support the [GLOW] tag? |
| 01:51.41 | JeffM2501 | no they don't |
| 01:51.45 | Atomica | aww |
| 01:51.53 | menotume | maybe we should have methods for postion zones |
| 01:51.55 | JeffM2501 | lame things like that add nothing |
| 01:52.14 | menotume | well, dosn't matter really |
| 01:52.24 | brlcad | like how if ctf, at least maybe on leage maps, you might consider it unfair to spawn a player on the other side of the map in a league match where two players are fighting over a flag |
| 01:52.25 | Atomica | ok, but which is it, scale or fixed? |
| 01:52.33 | JeffM2501 | fixedscale |
| 01:52.36 | Atomica | ok |
| 01:52.38 | JeffM2501 | you don't want them to change over time |
| 01:52.39 | menotume | brlcad: right |
| 01:53.10 | brlcad | yet that happens now, so the weak go from bad to worse |
| 01:53.14 | menotume | but, maybe most of the other logic is the same |
| 01:53.24 | brlcad | maybe |
| 01:53.31 | menotume | so, diff methods for each game style? |
| 01:53.33 | brlcad | they're inheritable classes |
| 01:53.44 | menotume | k |
| 01:54.08 | menotume | lemme ask this ... is there any configuration for the current policy ? |
| 01:54.12 | ndim | In league games, just getting a 10 second cannot-move-cannot-see-cannot-shoot penalty for getting shot could be OK. |
| 01:54.16 | menotume | s/current/new |
| 01:54.45 | brlcad | the current/default policy now is exactly what it used to be behavior-wise |
| 01:54.54 | menotume | ahh |
| 01:54.57 | brlcad | wasn't going to change that for 2.0.6 |
| 01:55.03 | Atomica | How can I make a flag appear in a certqain zone and what is the most currect precompiled version of bzfs? |
| 01:55.20 | brlcad | it's just abstracted so that it is trivially changeable |
| 01:55.25 | menotume | well, i'll try to look at it 2nite, but for now .... match ! |
| 01:55.26 | brlcad | and I added one example |
| 01:55.32 | menotume | i better get good spawns |
| 01:55.36 | brlcad | that provides purely random spawning |
| 01:55.52 | brlcad | while maintaining that they be valid spawn points |
| 01:55.53 | blast007 | Atomica: you can check the version on the forum |
| 01:56.05 | Atomica | but is that precompiled? |
| 01:56.13 | Atomica | oh wait nvm |
| 01:56.16 | Atomica | ugh |
| 01:56.36 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, where do they come from? |
| 01:56.46 | Atomica | If I make my spawn zone in a box (and around) would they spawn in the box? |
| 01:56.50 | JeffM2501 | it's George Jr. Isn't it? |
| 01:56.53 | Atomica | or just where possibnle? |
| 01:56.58 | JeffM2501 | try and see |
| 01:57.02 | JeffM2501 | it's called LEARNING |
| 01:57.09 | brlcad | Atomica: are you asking me? |
| 01:57.17 | Atomica | well I have always LEARNED to ask |
| 01:57.27 | Atomica | And I'm asking everyone! |
| 01:57.28 | JeffM2501 | well now you can learn by trying |
| 01:57.29 | blast007 | Atomica: you'll learn better by trying something |
| 01:57.37 | JeffM2501 | it's called research |
| 01:57.41 | JeffM2501 | and experimentation |
| 01:57.41 | Atomica | ok |
| 01:57.43 | blast007 | experiment until you figure out how it all works |
| 01:57.47 | brlcad | JeffM2501: where do what come from? |
| 01:57.50 | JeffM2501 | thems |
| 01:58.31 | JeffM2501 | the idiot man childs ;) |
| 01:58.43 | brlcad | oooooh heh |
| 01:58.46 | JeffM2501 | of emence anoyance |
| 01:58.49 | brlcad | that took me a while.. sheesh |
| 01:58.56 | JeffM2501 | sorry |
| 01:58.57 | JeffM2501 | long day |
| 01:59.01 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 01:59.03 | brlcad | yeah it still is |
| 01:59.13 | JeffM2501 | as should I |
| 01:59.18 | JeffM2501 | it's rather late there for you |
| 01:59.31 | Atomica | Why are there 2 0.0 in the fixedscale thing? |
| 01:59.34 | brlcad | no more so than my usual random |
| 01:59.39 | brlcad | i think |
| 01:59.55 | JeffM2501 | I have come to like 9 to 6 |
| 02:00.06 | brlcad | drives me nuts |
| 02:00.08 | blast007 | Atomica: because a texture is two dimensional :) |
| 02:00.16 | JeffM2501 | one for each axis |
| 02:00.21 | Atomica | SO I need both to be .5? |
| 02:00.25 | Atomica | oh ok |
| 02:00.26 | Atomica | sorry |
| 02:00.31 | JeffM2501 | for each axis you want to scale |
| 02:00.34 | JeffM2501 | think about it |
| 02:00.38 | Atomica | ok |
| 02:00.44 | JeffM2501 | has to be homeschool |
| 02:00.53 | brlcad | schedule flexibility is probably worth about a third of my pay to me |
| 02:00.55 | JeffM2501 | if it ain't then damn at the public education system |
| 02:00.56 | Atomica | uhhhhhhhhhhh....... I think I'm to stupid |
| 02:00.58 | Atomica | :P |
| 02:01.20 | brlcad | run to tfm |
| 02:01.21 | JeffM2501 | or just shut up when you don't have anything important to say |
| 02:01.25 | JeffM2501 | damn |
| 02:01.32 | JeffM2501 | they let us pick our time |
| 02:01.59 | JeffM2501 | start between 6 and 10 |
| 02:01.59 | brlcad | i just can't get down on an 8-hour day |
| 02:02.00 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 02:02.02 | brlcad | i prefer 10-12 hours |
| 02:02.09 | brlcad | take a day off every now and then |
| 02:02.14 | brlcad | or not |
| 02:02.16 | brlcad | whatever works |
| 02:02.19 | JeffM2501 | prez here likes to see the time cards |
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| 02:02.37 | JeffM2501 | took a lot of push to get him as flexable as he is |
| 02:02.58 | JeffM2501 | I'd never go to work if I had as much flex as you :) |
| 02:03.16 | brlcad | i mean, if you don't have to interact with customers and rarely with management, the rest is details that can be worked out without a rigid schedule |
| 02:03.30 | JeffM2501 | I have to interact with the other members of my team |
| 02:03.38 | JeffM2501 | and I'm support for our other in house dev dept |
| 02:03.43 | JeffM2501 | for our custom language |
| 02:03.51 | brlcad | that's usually doable so long as you overlap at least half their day |
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| 02:04.35 | JeffM2501 | well they are REALY dumb |
| 02:04.35 | Gnurdux | thanks whoever unbanned me |
| 02:04.35 | Gnurdux | or cleared banlist it seems |
| 02:04.35 | JeffM2501 | just please for the love of god try to use some common sense and don't babble |
| 02:04.41 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 02:04.44 | JeffM2501 | or it's realy easy to put you back on that ban list |
| 02:04.46 | brlcad | yay for statements instead of questions |
| 02:05.15 | JeffM2501 | well I can't say the other dev dept is dumb |
| 02:05.22 | JeffM2501 | just not real developer type people |
| 02:05.31 | JeffM2501 | don't realy know how to program a computer |
| 02:05.34 | Gnurdux | i can make random statements too, so don't suggest it to me |
| 02:05.37 | brlcad | if you're only asking because you're curious or a question just came to mind, please for the love of our sanity do not ask it |
| 02:06.13 | brlcad | if you have some purposed demonstrateable need for knowing, then ask and it won't come off so annoying |
| 02:06.44 | brlcad | most of your questions seem to just be asked for the hell of asking like you have nothing at all better to do |
| 02:08.04 | brlcad | and it's taking up peoples time to even read them and/or ignore them, especially when a bulk of them are questions without a purpose .. i.e. you're wasting our time if it's not thought through _before_ you write it |
| 02:08.27 | Gnurdux | yes. its mainly that im not really used to "serious" channels |
| 02:08.39 | brlcad | it's not so much about seriousness |
| 02:08.46 | brlcad | we all like to kid and joke, we do it all the time |
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| 02:09.02 | Gnurdux | well this channel is dominated by the developers |
| 02:09.04 | brlcad | but your questions are like you just spewing every little thought you have |
| 02:09.34 | brlcad | like you're asking because you're not willing to think it through yourself |
| 02:09.39 | brlcad | we don't want to think for you |
| 02:09.49 | brlcad | you shouldn't want us to, imho |
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| 02:13.10 | Gnurdux | hola Atomica |
| 02:13.13 | Atomica | Please don't kill me! But team 0 = Rogue |
| 02:13.28 | Atomica | red green blue and then purp? |
| 02:13.44 | Gnurdux | check the default config |
| 02:13.51 | Gnurdux | it tells you |
| 02:14.01 | Atomica | umm |
| 02:14.06 | Atomica | ok? |
| 02:16.04 | blast007 | RogueTeam = 0, RedTeam = 1, |
| 02:16.05 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.20 | Atomica | thanks |
| 02:16.29 | Gnurdux | and observer = 5 i think |
| 02:16.35 | Atomica | ok |
| 02:17.05 | Atomica | doesn't 2.0.5 have that zoneflag command? |
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| 02:24.02 | blast007 | Gnurdux: yes, observer is 5, rabbit is 6 |
| 02:24.14 | Gnurdux | rabbit gets a team? |
| 02:24.19 | Gnurdux | whats hunter? |
| 02:28.49 | blast007 | hunter is just rogue |
| 02:28.52 | blast007 | at least on 2.0.x |
| 02:29.08 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 02:29.23 | blast007 | I belive in 2.1 hunter is a real team |
| 02:36.55 | Gnurdux | so the official name of 2.0.6 is Fools' Gold correct? |
| 02:39.48 | blast007 | maybe, maybe not |
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| 02:47.07 | Gnurdux | hola Mr_Molez |
| 02:47.19 | Mr_Molez | oh hey :) |
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| 02:47.58 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, any new plugin ideas |
| 02:48.13 | Gnurdux | oh and BZF 2.0.6 "Fools' Gold" is being released on Saturday! |
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| 02:48.41 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: I have loads of ideas :) All of them I an unable to do :) |
| 02:48.54 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, tell em here. in private message so that they dont ban my ass |
| 02:49.04 | blast007 | Gnurdux: watch the language ;) |
| 02:49.11 | Gnurdux | ok.... |
| 02:49.44 | Mr_Molez | They won't ban for talking about that |
| 02:50.08 | Gnurdux | well they are pretty pissed at me. i got banned earlier today so i gotta be careful. just privmsg me |
| 02:50.24 | Mr_Molez | uhhuh |
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| 02:58.33 | Mr_Molez | oh its JeffM2501 :) |
| 02:58.51 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 02:59.24 | Mr_Molez | that was an indirect greeting :) |
| 02:59.29 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
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| 03:14.35 | wegstar | ;) |
| 03:14.53 | Gnurdux | hi wegstar |
| 03:15.02 | wegstar | hello Gnurdux |
| 03:15.07 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, also, i also had a patch in there that complements theming |
| 03:15.22 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: The theming is good stuff :P |
| 03:15.23 | Gnurdux | which makes it so that /reset loads vars set in config file |
| 03:15.37 | Mr_Molez | ah |
| 03:15.37 | Gnurdux | so that you can set default settings in config and use /reset * to go back to normal |
| 03:16.02 | Mr_Molez | sweet |
| 03:16.03 | Gnurdux | its not important enough |
| 03:16.22 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, cause you know that normally if you set like skyColor in config it dies on reset |
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| 03:16.48 | blast007 | bryjen: you scared him away :) |
| 03:16.59 | bryjen | do i win a prize? |
| 03:17.05 | wegstar | :P |
| 03:17.07 | EbErT | haha, meanies |
| 03:28.51 | JBdiGriz | ~bryjen++ |
| 03:30.15 | wegstar | ~Gnurdux |
| 03:30.17 | ibot | hmm... gnurdux is El owner de GnurdyGuy (Spanglish)! |
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| 03:30.47 | wegstar | ~karma gnurdux |
| 03:30.47 | ibot | gnurdux has karma of 10 |
| 03:31.37 | blast007 | shouldn't that be -10? ;) |
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| 04:13.48 | JeffM2501 | should I wait till like thursday to make a b7 ? |
| 04:13.57 | purple_cow | what's thursday? |
| 04:14.06 | JeffM2501 | a day tha'ts not today |
| 04:15.44 | purple_cow | true enough |
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| 04:20.48 | JeffM2501 | mmm hostess cupcake :) |
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| 07:19.56 | blast007 | there's been an issue with sending /me commands when the server is running on Windows |
| 07:20.19 | blast007 | I tracked it down to the sendPlayerMessage function |
| 07:21.31 | blast007 | the /me command text gets all corrupted, and it appears to occur right after the scope of "if (strncasecmp(message, "/me", 3) == 0) {" ends |
| 07:22.53 | blast007 | should actionMsg be declared outside that scope? |
| 07:23.44 | blast007 | it seems to fix it, but I'm just wondering if that's supposed to be required, or if there is another reason the information was corrupted |
| 07:24.25 | blast007 | I have a patch that shows the change I made: http://bz.porteighty.org/patches/bzfs.cxx.patch |
| 07:29.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03blast007 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Fix the /me command for win32 bzfs |
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| 07:58.29 | truijllo | ~help |
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| 09:08.03 | mejobloggs | hey guys |
| 09:08.14 | mejobloggs | i just tried to join, and the server banned me |
| 09:08.35 | mejobloggs | well, it was my brother 'Jimmy the rabid cucumber' |
| 09:08.56 | mejobloggs | he joined, and he was instantly banned for bad language |
| 09:09.04 | mejobloggs | didnt even say anything |
| 09:09.35 | mejobloggs | then he logged in under my name, and i got instantly banned as well |
| 09:09.40 | mejobloggs | silvercat server |
| 09:10.17 | EbErT | musta done something |
| 09:11.31 | mejobloggs | er, no |
| 09:11.33 | mejobloggs | not at all |
| 09:11.45 | mejobloggs | we didnt even get to say anything |
| 09:13.00 | mejobloggs | EbErT: if you get banned for bad language, does it tell you what you said? |
| 09:13.20 | EbErT | no, they tell u whatever they want in the kick |
| 09:13.26 | EbErT | but its all in the logs |
| 09:13.35 | mejobloggs | ok, how can I check the logs? |
| 09:13.39 | mejobloggs | or does someone else? |
| 09:16.07 | Birdie | what are you and your brother his nick? |
| 09:16.53 | mejobloggs | mejobloggs NZ |
| 09:17.08 | mejobloggs | Jimmy the rabid cucumber |
| 09:19.37 | mejobloggs | hey, and I can't log into silvercat.bzflag.org anymore |
| 09:20.42 | mejobloggs | hmm, i can log into silvercat.bzflag.org. Something just screwed up, but its ok now |
| 09:21.07 | Birdie | but still banned on the server? |
| 09:21.12 | mejobloggs | yeah |
| 09:21.28 | Birdie | hmm |
| 09:21.34 | mejobloggs | possible for you to find out what we did wrong? |
| 09:22.03 | Birdie | who banned you? |
| 09:22.04 | Birdie | yes |
| 09:22.41 | mejobloggs | silverfox |
| 09:22.48 | Birdie | when? |
| 09:23.14 | mejobloggs | tried to log in about 10 minutes ago |
| 09:23.18 | mejobloggs | and found i was banned |
| 09:23.25 | Birdie | but you dont know since when? |
| 09:23.36 | mejobloggs | no |
| 09:23.37 | mejobloggs | sorry |
| 09:23.48 | mejobloggs | since now and last time i logged in, heh |
| 09:23.57 | Birdie | i'll try to find out, but i have to wait till one of my collegues wakes up to check logs |
| 09:24.03 | mejobloggs | heh, ok |
| 09:24.06 | mejobloggs | thanks |
| 09:24.30 | EbErT | silverfox is on the server |
| 09:24.41 | mejobloggs | can i talk to him? |
| 09:24.57 | Birdie | i'll try to get him |
| 09:25.11 | mejobloggs | thanks |
| 09:25.12 | EbErT | u can, but i've been bugging him about flag limits and the ctf plugin |
| 09:25.19 | mejobloggs | heh |
| 09:25.24 | EbErT | so u might wanna let birdie talk |
| 09:25.54 | mejobloggs | silvercat != silverfox ? |
| 09:26.03 | EbErT | ? |
| 09:26.17 | EbErT | sivercat is the server, silverfox is one of the owners |
| 09:26.26 | mejobloggs | yep, ok |
| 09:26.48 | mejobloggs | but there was someone using a silvercat nick? |
| 09:26.52 | mejobloggs | was that silverfox? |
| 09:27.03 | mejobloggs | or 2 different people |
| 09:27.15 | EbErT | was it registered? |
| 09:27.27 | EbErT | i dunno. its not supposed to be a person |
| 09:27.34 | mejobloggs | ah, ok |
| 09:27.36 | mejobloggs | nm |
| 09:27.46 | mejobloggs | that is nothing to do with me not being able to log in |
| 09:28.15 | EbErT | birdie: i'm kinda peeved about the flag shot limits on babel and overlord |
| 09:28.24 | Birdie | post it on the forum? |
| 09:28.25 | mejobloggs | our names were registered, yes |
| 09:28.34 | EbErT | no need for a 50 shot limit on burrow |
| 09:28.59 | mejobloggs | shot limited wings is really annoying |
| 09:29.01 | EbErT | i've already talked to menotume and fox |
| 09:29.19 | EbErT | that too, no since in that if it only has 1 or 2 flaps |
| 09:29.37 | EbErT | if u cant hit someone with 2 flaps, then u should either get better or go somewhere else |
| 09:30.21 | mejobloggs | heh, yeah, but wings is what, 15 shots? |
| 09:30.22 | EbErT | no need to soften the server up to welcome noobs. there are lots of dedicated players besides |
| 09:30.30 | EbErT | ridiculous |
| 09:30.38 | mejobloggs | no, but it was harder with more shots |
| 09:31.11 | mejobloggs | made it a challenge if the enemy had a good flag, because then it was important to kill that player |
| 09:31.17 | EbErT | they have to land after 2 flaps. just count the flaps and you'll get them most of the time |
| 09:31.26 | mejobloggs | thats not the point |
| 09:31.38 | EbErT | what's the point |
| 09:32.12 | mejobloggs | if you had an enemy wings with a lot of shots, he is going to be more dangerous |
| 09:32.34 | mejobloggs | but with only a small amount of shots, no one even bothers trying to take out the wings |
| 09:32.45 | mejobloggs | because he will run out very soon anyway |
| 09:32.56 | EbErT | ya, what's the fun in that? |
| 09:33.11 | mejobloggs | wait, sorry, are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? |
| 09:33.23 | mejobloggs | i got confused when you started talking about flaps |
| 09:33.24 | EbErT | don't even bother with it. take out all the flaps and we can play pillbox |
| 09:33.38 | mejobloggs | i dont understand you |
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| 09:33.51 | EbErT | disagreeing with the small amount of shot |
| 09:33.53 | EbErT | s |
| 09:34.00 | EbErT | might as well not have the flaegs |
| 09:34.06 | mejobloggs | yeah, thats it |
| 09:34.14 | EbErT | making it easy for noobs who can't deal with superflags |
| 09:34.26 | mejobloggs | heh, man im slow, yeah, thats what I was also meaning |
| 09:34.31 | EbErT | birdie: i just don't get how changes are made to babel and overlord |
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| 09:34.48 | EbErT | fox said u each do it separately, without a vote |
| 09:35.23 | EbErT | menotume agrees with much that i am saying, yet none of them are implemented |
| 09:35.45 | EbErT | and besides, if the other owners disagree and haven't voted first, they'll just change it the way they like it |
| 09:35.57 | EbErT | sok mejobloggs, i understand u :) |
| 09:36.39 | mejobloggs | heh, thanks |
| 09:36.41 | mejobloggs | ah |
| 09:36.50 | mejobloggs | my brother said he got banned when he said.... |
| 09:36.53 | mejobloggs | snigger |
| 09:37.15 | EbErT | did he mean snicker? |
| 09:37.23 | mejobloggs | its the same thing |
| 09:37.32 | EbErT | no, looks like ngger |
| 09:37.49 | mejobloggs | righty-ho, whatever |
| 09:37.57 | mejobloggs | that is pretty lame |
| 09:38.00 | EbErT | which is kinda bad. but ionno, |
| 09:38.04 | EbErT | ya, wrong spelling |
| 09:38.50 | mejobloggs | he also said he has said snigger before, and never got banned |
| 09:38.58 | mejobloggs | is it an auto ban? |
| 09:39.07 | EbErT | that doesn't mean anything that he hasn't before |
| 09:39.13 | mejobloggs | or does silverfox actually have to ban manually? |
| 09:39.20 | EbErT | its there server, they do what they want |
| 09:39.24 | mejobloggs | heh |
| 09:39.34 | EbErT | no, pretty sure he did it manually |
| 09:39.43 | EbErT | the language filter is pretty crummy |
| 09:40.05 | mejobloggs | heh, like it bans snigger instead of ngger? |
| 09:40.08 | Birdie | ok checking logs now |
| 09:40.49 | mejobloggs | is it an IP ban? |
| 09:40.59 | mejobloggs | becauset that would explain why I am banned too |
| 09:41.46 | EbErT | i'd bet so |
| 09:42.57 | Birdie | it propably is |
| 09:43.07 | Birdie | wait let me see |
| 09:43.45 | Birdie | yep its your brother |
| 09:43.48 | Birdie | the cumcumber one |
| 09:43.55 | Birdie | 10 000 more minutes waiting for you |
| 09:43.57 | Birdie | reason: language |
| 09:44.21 | EbErT | siblings can mess things up can't they |
| 09:44.35 | mejobloggs | heh, but he didnt really do anything wrong anyway |
| 09:44.51 | mejobloggs | can the ban be lifted? or do we just have to wait 10 000 minutes? |
| 09:45.05 | mejobloggs | what, heh, how long is 10 000 minutes...... |
| 09:45.18 | EbErT | convert it :) |
| 09:45.33 | Birdie | one week? |
| 09:45.52 | EbErT | calk 10000 / 60 |
| 09:45.58 | EbErT | calc |
| 09:46.03 | mejobloggs | yeah, a week |
| 09:46.10 | mejobloggs | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 09:46.13 | mejobloggs | a weeeeeek |
| 09:46.26 | mejobloggs | *gasp* |
| 09:46.35 | EbErT | that's harsh |
| 09:47.52 | Birdie | one week is just fine for bad language |
| 09:48.02 | Birdie | ist just not cool if others are involved like you |
| 09:48.11 | EbErT | snigger? i dunno |
| 09:48.18 | EbErT | guess so |
| 09:48.28 | mejobloggs | far out, lame |
| 09:48.42 | Birdie | i did something wrong with my account so i cant check the languagestuff |
| 09:49.00 | EbErT | stuff flies around all the time when just cops are there. they mostly don't pay attention to lag either |
| 09:49.00 | Birdie | i'll look to it tomorrow if i dont forget |
| 09:49.21 | mejobloggs | :( |
| 09:49.29 | EbErT | and then the whip cracks down when owners get there :) |
| 09:49.40 | mejobloggs | yeah, and for completely ok works |
| 09:49.46 | Birdie | every one is trying to do his best, at least give them a bit credit |
| 09:49.51 | mejobloggs | true |
| 09:50.10 | EbErT | i disagree that the cops and junior admins do their best |
| 09:50.32 | EbErT | there was a F50 that was a cop a while ago and didn't know how to kick |
| 09:50.44 | Birdie | than he was new and still had to learn |
| 09:50.54 | Birdie | or maybe you understood it wrong |
| 09:50.55 | EbErT | not around now though |
| 09:51.25 | EbErT | sok, fox didn't want me adminning at all so i have no power.. |
| 09:51.40 | Birdie | he will propably have had his reaons |
| 09:51.49 | mejobloggs | dictonary says: "Half supressed secretive laugh" for snigger |
| 09:51.50 | EbErT | its cuz i asked :) |
| 09:52.20 | Birdie | sox wont have banned him for more than a week, just for saying that word once |
| 09:52.36 | EbErT | i think he would |
| 09:52.42 | mejobloggs | well it happened |
| 09:53.15 | EbErT | is that really the same word, snigger and snicker ? |
| 09:53.36 | Birdie | i have no idea, english is not my first language |
| 09:53.47 | EbErT | it is mine, and i haven't heard it |
| 09:55.24 | EbErT | wish i had a little more input on silverfox though, i play there so often.. |
| 09:55.54 | Birdie | again, if you dont have got powers, silverfox will have got his reasons |
| 09:55.54 | EbErT | instead orange has to disagree w/ most things i say and doesn't play babel or overlord much |
| 09:56.07 | EbErT | its cuz i asked once. i understand tho |
| 09:56.16 | EbErT | didn't need any |
| 09:56.41 | Birdie | if orange disagrees with things you say, that might be a reason to |
| 09:56.59 | EbErT | but menotume and i are on exactly the same page |
| 09:57.07 | mejobloggs | according to answers.com |
| 09:57.09 | Birdie | you propably said some wrong things that some of us didnt liked |
| 09:57.22 | mejobloggs | The verb snigger has one meaning: |
| 09:57.24 | mejobloggs | laugh quietly |
| 09:57.30 | mejobloggs | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.36 | EbErT | oh, it wasn't about being an admin though, just about flag limits and the ctf plugin |
| 09:57.56 | EbErT | i'm fine not being an admin, i asked long ago |
| 09:58.11 | Birdie | your so fine, that you keep complaining about it |
| 09:59.01 | EbErT | just want input into these unreasonable changes |
| 09:59.20 | EbErT | and i hate forums :/ |
| 09:59.25 | Birdie | than you can explain your opinion in the forums |
| 09:59.34 | Birdie | like so many others |
| 10:00.40 | EbErT | i've seen forums, things dont happen in them |
| 10:00.40 | EbErT | and who wants to look through all that |
| 10:00.41 | EbErT | well, they do, just not as much imo |
| 10:00.41 | mejobloggs | ok, im going to make a forum entry on low flag shot limits |
| 10:00.48 | mejobloggs | what maps was it in? |
| 10:00.50 | EbErT | can't argue upfront w/ ppl |
| 10:00.59 | EbErT | overlord and babel |
| 10:01.07 | EbErT | ty mejo |
| 10:03.30 | mejobloggs | how much shots does wings have? |
| 10:03.57 | EbErT | ack, if i was an admin i could find out quick heh |
| 10:04.36 | mejobloggs | is ST shot limited? |
| 10:04.42 | EbErT | all i know is wings, laser, and gm aren't reasonable |
| 10:04.46 | EbErT | no st limit |
| 10:05.01 | EbErT | and burrow doesn't even need one if they are gunna make it 50 shots |
| 10:05.57 | EbErT | give talented ppl a chance to use more than 50 if they can stay alive |
| 10:06.03 | mejobloggs | shall I say all shot limits need to be doubled? |
| 10:06.21 | EbErT | just say re-evaulated i guess |
| 10:06.43 | ToughShooter | mejobloggs: I have looked up logs and I can confirm silverfox banned for one week |
| 10:06.44 | EbErT | doubled would be a good step though |
| 10:07.21 | EbErT | bah i hate forums |
| 10:08.56 | EbErT | ToughShooter: can u see what was said? |
| 10:09.49 | mejobloggs | EbErT: http://silvercat.bzflag.org/index.php?module=phpbb&file=viewtopic.php&t=165&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= |
| 10:10.45 | EbErT | awesome, i like the way u put that |
| 10:10.50 | EbErT | better than i could, thx |
| 10:11.07 | mejobloggs | np |
| 10:11.22 | ToughShooter | Ebert: Said by whom? |
| 10:11.23 | mejobloggs | it was bugging me enough to do it :p |
| 10:11.35 | mejobloggs | http://silvercat.bzflag.org/index.php?module=phpbb&file=viewtopic.php&t=165&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= |
| 10:11.36 | EbErT | said by jimmy the rabid cucumber |
| 10:11.47 | mejobloggs | oh, i thought you were talking abou the link |
| 10:11.53 | EbErT | it bugs the heck outta me, as does the ctf plugin |
| 10:12.00 | ToughShooter | Well, he said "snigger" and then he got banned |
| 10:12.05 | mejobloggs | yeah |
| 10:12.11 | mejobloggs | look snigger up in the dictionary |
| 10:12.25 | ToughShooter | besides I don't know what "snigger" means |
| 10:12.51 | mejobloggs | sigh |
| 10:12.56 | ToughShooter | ~x en de snigger |
| 10:12.59 | mejobloggs | snicker, laugh |
| 10:13.03 | ToughShooter | sigh |
| 10:13.07 | mejobloggs | chuckle |
| 10:13.16 | mejobloggs | snort |
| 10:13.24 | mejobloggs | Verb1.snigger - laugh quietly |
| 10:14.00 | mejobloggs | A snide, slightly stifled laugh. |
| 10:14.12 | ToughShooter | I am looking it up |
| 10:14.18 | mejobloggs | yep, thanks |
| 10:14.52 | mejobloggs | on no! it also means "a disrespectful laugh" |
| 10:14.58 | mejobloggs | thats instant banning! |
| 10:16.38 | ToughShooter | I will talk to birdie about the ban when he comes back |
| 10:17.18 | mejobloggs | thanks very much |
| 10:17.36 | mejobloggs | cya, and have fun |
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| 12:57.47 | bz21 | hehe |
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| 17:00.13 | Tupone | we need some who exports a wannabe 2.0.6 server to play on that |
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| 17:14.07 | Mr_Molez | does anyone know if bzflag is playable on a tft monitor ? |
| 17:14.26 | Tupone | a very fast one, yes |
| 17:14.36 | Tupone | 8msec or less |
| 17:14.59 | Mr_Molez | the higher the ms the slower the frame rate |
| 17:15.01 | Mr_Molez | ? |
| 17:15.16 | Tupone | not related to refresh rate |
| 17:15.31 | Tupone | frame rate and refresh rate are not |
| 17:15.53 | Mr_Molez | ok umm... the higher the higher the ms the less chance of bzflag being playable ? |
| 17:16.01 | Tupone | yep |
| 17:16.03 | Mr_Molez | the higher the higher = the higher the ms |
| 17:16.04 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 17:16.07 | Mr_Molez | ok thanks :) |
| 17:16.36 | Tupone | visual illness if too slow |
| 17:16.45 | JeffM2501 | you can think of the ms as the "refresh" of the display |
| 17:16.53 | JeffM2501 | tho it's not tied to the actual input refresh |
| 17:17.08 | JeffM2501 | it can be playable on good ones, others can shear |
| 17:17.11 | JeffM2501 | or smear |
| 17:17.13 | JeffM2501 | try and see |
| 17:17.25 | Mr_Molez | k thanks :) |
| 17:17.27 | JeffM2501 | games run fine on my big ass LCD display |
| 17:17.42 | JeffM2501 | but then it's down to like 8ms |
| 17:18.05 | Mr_Molez | I was thinking about buying one I saw on ebay. But I don't wanna get it just to find its useless to me :) |
| 17:18.18 | JeffM2501 | what was the speed of it? |
| 17:18.25 | JeffM2501 | and who makes it? |
| 17:18.35 | Mr_Molez | 30ms :( |
| 17:18.39 | JeffM2501 | ouch |
| 17:18.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's gonna smear and shear like crazy |
| 17:19.03 | JeffM2501 | that gives you a max frame rate of like 33 fps |
| 17:19.17 | Tupone | refresh rate :) |
| 17:19.29 | JeffM2501 | in general gamers look for 12ms or better |
| 17:19.46 | Mr_Molez | visual illness = ghosting I have heared :P |
| 17:20.01 | JeffM2501 | ghosting = smearing |
| 17:20.05 | JeffM2501 | shear is worse |
| 17:20.11 | ToughShooter | Ah, blur effects? |
| 17:20.15 | JeffM2501 | kinda yea |
| 17:20.24 | Tupone | ToughShooter: you feel very bad, physically |
| 17:20.28 | JeffM2501 | the display dos't update fast engouh so you see parts of the last frame |
| 17:20.41 | JeffM2501 | it feels like your vision is "stuttering" |
| 17:20.47 | JeffM2501 | it can make some people ill |
| 17:20.54 | Mr_Molez | wow lol |
| 17:20.54 | ToughShooter | Heh, I think I could not notice even when my display would smear it |
| 17:21.06 | JeffM2501 | newer displays are faster |
| 17:21.50 | ToughShooter | Tupone: I only feel bad when driving with snick, RB2 etc ;) |
| 17:22.01 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 17:22.04 | ToughShooter | I get seasick from that :/ |
| 17:22.36 | Tupone | yeah, that. With a good monitor probably you don't notice |
| 17:23.08 | Tupone | I prefer CRT to a bad TFT |
| 17:23.18 | Tupone | I mean bad CRT |
| 17:23.36 | ToughShooter | It's because of the rapid movements...I don't notice artifacts |
| 17:23.56 | Mr_Molez | :o |
| 17:24.18 | Tupone | 20 meters is a cinema |
| 17:24.32 | ToughShooter | nah, it is how apple calls the product |
| 17:24.38 | Tupone | ahh :) |
| 17:25.08 | ToughShooter | 20 meters would be too big for my room ;) |
| 17:25.31 | JeffM2501 | the applie displays are usualy prety good |
| 17:25.35 | Tupone | you can borrow the wall of the near palace |
| 17:26.06 | JeffM2501 | LG makes the actual displays IIRC |
| 17:26.08 | JeffM2501 | same as dell |
| 17:27.13 | JeffM2501 | the apple 20 is 14ms |
| 17:27.15 | JeffM2501 | so not bad |
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| 17:29.39 | ToughShooter | I have it because of the great looking colors |
| 17:29.56 | Mr_Molez | how long has the bouncy flag been in bzflag ? |
| 17:30.25 | ToughShooter | Since 2.0 |
| 17:30.37 | Mr_Molez | k :P |
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| 18:04.32 | Tupone | JeffM2501: had time to look at .zip ? |
| 18:04.44 | JeffM2501 | I can try |
| 18:05.08 | Tupone | mean if I miss some file |
| 18:05.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah sure gimme a zip |
| 18:05.33 | JeffM2501 | I just finished a bug at work |
| 18:05.37 | JeffM2501 | I can try and build |
| 18:05.49 | Tupone | http://bzflag.tupone.dyndns.org/bzflag-2.0.5.zip |
| 18:06.11 | Tupone | but remember line ending |
| 18:06.19 | Tupone | I meant just to check file list |
| 18:06.32 | JeffM2501 | oh it's not the right line ending? |
| 18:06.44 | JeffM2501 | well my winzip will convert it |
| 18:06.44 | Tupone | it is the unix I guess |
| 18:06.47 | JeffM2501 | since it's smart |
| 18:06.51 | JeffM2501 | so I can just try to build |
| 18:06.53 | JeffM2501 | see if it's right |
| 18:06.57 | Tupone | and do not touch png ? |
| 18:07.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:07.11 | JeffM2501 | it's prety smart :) |
| 18:07.12 | Tupone | great |
| 18:10.29 | JeffM2501 | I just have to send an e-mail and I'll check it out |
| 18:17.34 | JeffM2501 | umm off the bat, the entire VC8 directory is missing |
| 18:17.50 | JeffM2501 | as well as some of the project files |
| 18:22.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/win32/ (Makefile.am VC71/Makefile.am VC8/Makefile.am): for the missing windows files |
| 18:22.50 | JeffM2501 | let me do a build form cvs first to make sure windows still builds |
| 18:22.52 | Tupone | ok, you are fixing |
| 18:22.56 | Tupone | :) |
| 18:23.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah I fixed those |
| 18:23.06 | JeffM2501 | running the build now |
| 18:23.15 | JeffM2501 | brb, gotta help IT with a debian install |
| 18:23.26 | Tupone | aww, a linux expert now |
| 18:27.22 | JeffM2501 | well the only person here who has ever set one up |
| 18:27.25 | JeffM2501 | but not expert |
| 18:27.30 | Tupone | j/k |
| 18:27.40 | JeffM2501 | I have to get the VC8 projects updated before we ship |
| 18:27.46 | JeffM2501 | I wish dtr was here |
| 18:27.57 | JeffM2501 | I guess I can edit them manualy but no way to test |
| 18:28.06 | Tupone | blast cannot help? |
| 18:28.08 | JeffM2501 | they are going to be very popular this release |
| 18:28.12 | JeffM2501 | blast007, you have VC8? |
| 18:28.21 | JeffM2501 | I thought he was in 7.1 like me |
| 18:28.26 | Tupone | :( |
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| 18:28.44 | JeffM2501 | well if I have to I'll install VC8 on my server at home |
| 18:28.49 | JeffM2501 | so it's not toob ad |
| 18:29.08 | JeffM2501 | the VC8 projects work with the free MS compiler, so I think many will use them |
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| 18:40.04 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/win32/VC8/ (bzfs.vcproj common.vcproj): move text chunk manager, and add spawn policys ( manualy, not tested ) |
| 18:40.15 | JeffM2501 | that should get er up to date |
| 18:40.33 | JeffM2501 | ok, she builds from cvs now |
| 18:40.41 | JeffM2501 | give us another zip tupy ;) |
| 18:42.59 | Tupone | cannot make dist ... wait |
| 18:43.13 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:43.29 | JeffM2501 | did I screw up one of the make files? |
| 18:43.31 | JeffM2501 | :( |
| 18:43.32 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/README.WIN32: more notes on VC8 |
| 18:44.12 | Tupone | a space after the \ :) |
| 18:44.22 | JeffM2501 | ahh sorry |
| 18:51.10 | Tupone | my machine is slow :( |
| 18:53.41 | Tupone | you can re-get. Same path |
| 18:54.32 | JeffM2501 | ok |
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| 19:06.23 | JeffM2501 | it still dosn't have the VC8 directory |
| 19:06.34 | JeffM2501 | nore the ares files |
| 19:06.39 | JeffM2501 | looks like the same zip |
| 19:06.56 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/win32/VC8/Makefile.in: Please do not commit Makefile.in |
| 19:07.00 | Tupone | aww, lemme see |
| 19:08.03 | Tupone | I'm sorry, you are right :( I transferred the tar.gz |
| 19:08.07 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 19:08.10 | JeffM2501 | well I can try that |
| 19:08.14 | JeffM2501 | I can untar things |
| 19:08.16 | Tupone | bzflag-2.0.5.tar.gz |
| 19:08.20 | Tupone | same path |
| 19:08.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah geting it now |
| 19:08.45 | JeffM2501 | at 36k a sec |
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| 19:10.50 | Tupone | I'm at 512K upload |
| 19:10.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (configure.ac win32/Makefile.am): Fix for adding VC8 to autotools |
| 19:11.04 | Tupone | or 320 ? |
| 19:11.50 | Tupone | 320Kb/sec upload, 1.5M d/l |
| 19:12.01 | JeffM2501 | that would make sense then |
| 19:12.29 | Tupone | 1 km from here, no ADSL |
| 19:12.36 | Tupone | so better this way |
| 19:12.51 | JeffM2501 | I'm on a full T1 |
| 19:12.53 | JeffM2501 | here |
| 19:13.46 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/bzadmin.vcproj: curses.lib not pdcurses.lib |
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| 19:26.08 | ToughShooter | Tupone: The Cu line here is less than 500 metres long, but no glas fibre :(( |
| 19:27.09 | Tupone | 500 meter is too much I guess |
| 19:28.02 | ToughShooter | Umm, glas fibre can be used over a longer distance than Cu, AFAIK |
| 19:32.01 | Tupone | yes, I mean 500 meters cu is too much. fiber can arrive to some km with hi power laser |
| 19:32.27 | JeffM2501 | mmmm high power laser :) |
| 19:32.45 | Tupone | and I don't recommend looking at the other side |
| 19:33.18 | Tupone | well I wrote hi thinking to abbreviate, like hifi |
| 19:33.35 | blast007 | and yes, I'm only on VC 7.1 :) |
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| 20:00.16 | brlcad | woot, new bench press max |
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| 20:14.57 | SportyGal | need an admin on badgerking (I"m at work and can't go) to kick a tker |
| 20:15.11 | Mr_Molez | poll ? |
| 20:15.18 | SportyGal | I've suggested that |
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| 20:55.04 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, it build the applications just fine |
| 20:55.14 | Tupone | ok :) |
| 20:55.14 | JeffM2501 | I'll test to make sure it can do an installer in a sec |
| 20:55.28 | JeffM2501 | as soon as I fix the installer :) |
| 20:55.40 | Tupone | now I just need a server with very last version, and people that test it |
| 20:55.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: need curses and glew |
| 20:56.05 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure brlcad can get you setup wiht a server on bzflag.bz for testing |
| 20:56.37 | Tupone | the problem is just to distract true players from match and test it |
| 20:56.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/ (header.bmp side.bmp): new kickass installer graphics by saturos |
| 20:56.52 | brad2901 | Tupone: what version? |
| 20:56.57 | Tupone | very last |
| 20:57.02 | Tupone | cvs head |
| 20:57.06 | brad2901 | 2.0 branch? |
| 20:57.08 | brad2901 | or 2.1? |
| 20:57.13 | JeffM2501 | 2.0 |
| 20:57.14 | Tupone | yep branch |
| 20:57.18 | JeffM2501 | in prep for 2.0.6 |
| 20:57.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/data/menu_arrow.png: new kickass menu arrow by saturos |
| 20:57.28 | brad2901 | ah k |
| 20:57.34 | Tupone | even test bzadmin |
| 20:58.21 | JeffM2501 | testing plugins now from your tarball |
| 20:58.55 | brad2901 | ~bzcvs |
| 20:58.56 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 20:59.57 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, installer works |
| 21:00.08 | JeffM2501 | so yeah looks like it's got all the files it needs to build |
| 21:00.21 | JeffM2501 | even did the man page stuff like it should |
| 21:00.32 | Tupone | ok, look we need just testing |
| 21:00.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:00.52 | JeffM2501 | I'll build and post a 2.05b7 tonight |
| 21:02.40 | JeffM2501 | saturos realy does make some nice art |
| 21:02.57 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:03.03 | blast007 | arrow* |
| 21:03.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:03.14 | JeffM2501 | very good and contrasty |
| 21:03.24 | JeffM2501 | he also did header and side pictures for your installer |
| 21:03.31 | blast007 | awesome |
| 21:04.21 | JeffM2501 | heh, I just realised I don't have to wait till I get home, I just built a version here |
| 21:05.38 | JeffM2501 | so on the makefile generated zip all we have to do is make sure zip can do the file endings. |
| 21:05.47 | JeffM2501 | and worse case is I can rezip from the tarball |
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| 21:06.25 | blast007 | woah, he did some an incredible job on the side.bmp |
| 21:06.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:06.32 | JeffM2501 | it's realy cool |
| 21:06.40 | JeffM2501 | I have a similar one for the mac DMG too |
| 21:06.45 | JeffM2501 | so they kinda all match |
| 21:06.57 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/2.0.x/bzflag-2.0.5b7.exe for anyone that wants it |
| 21:07.45 | brlcad | tupone already has an account iirc |
| 21:07.53 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:08.01 | brlcad | new dmg art? |
| 21:08.03 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I'll have to send you the mac background image I have |
| 21:08.04 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:08.09 | JeffM2501 | based on saturos art |
| 21:08.12 | brlcad | that is, of course, the most important part of making the release ;) |
| 21:08.26 | JeffM2501 | he made new ones for us to use in the windows installer |
| 21:08.46 | brlcad | i had a background lined up saved from last release, but it'd be good to be consistent |
| 21:08.47 | JeffM2501 | http://saturos.de/projects/upload/files/side.png |
| 21:09.20 | brlcad | hmm |
| 21:09.29 | brlcad | that's for the installer side panel, yes? |
| 21:09.34 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:09.45 | JeffM2501 | I have one similar at home for the mac dmg |
| 21:09.46 | brlcad | would have to modify it slightly for a dmg background |
| 21:09.50 | brlcad | k |
| 21:09.53 | JeffM2501 | it's wider |
| 21:10.01 | JeffM2501 | I was experiementing with more stuff in the dmg |
| 21:10.07 | JeffM2501 | I'll send you what I have |
| 21:10.14 | JeffM2501 | I had a dir for the docs and stuff |
| 21:10.20 | JeffM2501 | and the misc dir |
| 21:10.23 | JeffM2501 | things that people may want |
| 21:10.42 | blast007 | guess I need to move around a bit more...the lights turned off on me :) |
| 21:11.08 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:11.38 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I tested building from a tupone made tarball, the make dist should now include all things windows needs. |
| 21:20.13 | brlcad | intervesting.. i haven't checked my commit e-mails yet |
| 21:20.24 | brlcad | or did he not commit anything yet? |
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| 21:27.56 | JeffM2501 | I had to make some small changes |
| 21:28.01 | JeffM2501 | then he had to fix my small changes |
| 21:28.09 | Gnurdux | heh |
| 21:28.18 | JeffM2501 | the VC8 dir was skiped |
| 21:28.22 | JeffM2501 | as well as the ares project |
| 21:28.26 | Gnurdux | :( |
| 21:28.29 | JeffM2501 | but that should be in the makefiles now |
| 21:28.44 | JeffM2501 | last night I fixed the manpage building thing for windows builds |
| 21:28.48 | JeffM2501 | so it'll allways have em |
| 21:29.13 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.22 | JeffM2501 | what is wrong with it? |
| 21:29.35 | brad2901 | s/is/was/ |
| 21:29.45 | brad2901 | blast fixed it, it was giving out random characters |
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| 21:29.51 | JeffM2501 | it should run the same as linux |
| 21:30.03 | JeffM2501 | if he fixed it and commited it, then it's int he build |
| 21:30.05 | Gnurdux | why wasnt it working before? |
| 21:30.07 | Gnurdux | i never understood that |
| 21:30.12 | blast007 | it corrupted the message |
| 21:30.24 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.25 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.25 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.27 | brad2901 | like that ^ |
| 21:30.27 | JeffM2501 | ohh the part where it didn't terminate it right? |
| 21:30.31 | Gnurdux | why did it function differently than on linux though? |
| 21:30.35 | blast007 | this is all I changed: http://bz.porteighty.org/patches/bzfs.cxx.patch |
| 21:30.46 | JeffM2501 | why didn't you just commit the fix? |
| 21:30.50 | blast007 | I did |
| 21:30.51 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:30.53 | JeffM2501 | then all good |
| 21:31.09 | blast007 | was a scoping issue |
| 21:31.11 | Gnurdux | <Gnurdux> Fix the /me command for win32 bzfs: YAY that was sucky: thats on CIA |
| 21:31.13 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:31.25 | blast007 | and it only broke windows servers |
| 21:31.36 | JeffM2501 | linux probably just didn't have garbage in the memory |
| 21:31.41 | Gnurdux | ahh |
| 21:31.42 | JeffM2501 | or didn't clean up as fast |
| 21:31.48 | JeffM2501 | difrent compilers work difrently |
| 21:31.52 | blast007 | the linux /me command worked fine |
| 21:31.59 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:32.34 | Gnurdux | in glad that fix made it in |
| 21:33.03 | blast007 | yeah, I was testing it at 1AM ;) |
| 21:33.46 | Gnurdux | heheh cool |
| 21:33.58 | brlcad | orange: you win :) |
| 21:36.01 | Gnurdux | its "frozen" at this point right? only major bugfixes make it in? |
| 21:37.38 | JeffM2501 | depends |
| 21:37.46 | JeffM2501 | it's not as ridgid as that |
| 21:38.01 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 21:38.41 | JeffM2501 | why do you ask? |
| 21:39.26 | Gnurdux | hehe i still imagine a possibility of my patches making it in. |
| 21:39.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's not one dimensional |
| 21:39.53 | JeffM2501 | probably depends on how people are feeling before this weekend |
| 21:40.05 | Gnurdux | and how annoying i am... |
| 21:40.15 | JeffM2501 | in general that woudl not help it |
| 21:40.23 | JeffM2501 | it can only hinder |
| 21:40.25 | Gnurdux | it would hurt it |
| 21:40.28 | Gnurdux | i know, thats what i meant |
| 21:40.58 | JeffM2501 | if we waited for every possible change, 2.0.x would never ever be done |
| 21:41.05 | JeffM2501 | and we'd never get to move forward |
| 21:41.25 | Gnurdux | but the CVS wont be maintained either will it |
| 21:41.36 | JeffM2501 | depends what people put into |
| 21:41.46 | JeffM2501 | we will ask that people put new stuff into CVS head |
| 21:41.54 | JeffM2501 | so we can move forward |
| 21:55.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: b7 tag |
| 21:58.15 | orange | brlcad: what did I win? |
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| 22:01.17 | Gnurdux | sorry |
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| 22:11.07 | MadRush | howdy folks |
| 22:11.19 | Gnurdux | hi MadRush |
| 22:11.24 | MadRush | i have an issue: when i shoot, my rounds go harmlessly through my opponents |
| 22:11.42 | Gnurdux | that sounds like a server issue, or an issue at their end |
| 22:11.42 | EbErT | network probs |
| 22:11.44 | Gnurdux | what server? |
| 22:11.54 | MadRush | i dont recall the servers offhand, but it wasnt just one |
| 22:12.07 | EbErT | does it also seem like no one is paying attention to your tank being there? |
| 22:12.13 | MadRush | no |
| 22:12.21 | MadRush | i can get hit, and do get hit quite a lot |
| 22:12.26 | EbErT | wow, weird |
| 22:12.40 | MadRush | you said it. are there any ports i should open? |
| 22:13.11 | MadRush | only thing i could think of is theres some ports that are blocked .. |
| 22:13.30 | Gnurdux | your the client not the server |
| 22:13.35 | MadRush | yah |
| 22:13.57 | JeffM2501 | what OS are you on? |
| 22:14.08 | MadRush | kubuntu 5.1 (debian) |
| 22:14.20 | JeffM2501 | using the binary package or build yourself? |
| 22:14.24 | MadRush | binary |
| 22:14.26 | JeffM2501 | and are you on an AMD64? |
| 22:14.30 | MadRush | yes |
| 22:14.37 | JeffM2501 | build from source |
| 22:14.41 | MadRush | heh ok |
| 22:15.07 | MadRush | ive had lotsa fun because of the architecture |
| 22:15.08 | JeffM2501 | the binarys were made for 32 bit systems |
| 22:15.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:15.16 | JeffM2501 | once you build yourself it's fine |
| 22:15.42 | MadRush | cool |
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| 22:16.20 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, you like theming dont you? |
| 22:16.26 | Mr_Molez | yup |
| 22:16.35 | Gnurdux | also do you like my /reset patch? |
| 22:16.43 | Mr_Molez | yup |
| 22:20.56 | Mr_Molez | very useful :P |
| 22:21.15 | Gnurdux | i like my other patch too but its unimportant |
| 22:27.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (clientCommands.cxx defaultBZDB.cxx): store the last screenshot number in the config so we can just go from there when we take new ones ( variation of patch 1393174 ) |
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| 22:37.17 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, hows masterbot going |
| 22:37.32 | A_Meteorite | uhh.. wrong channel :P |
| 22:37.36 | A_Meteorite | but well, I don't really know |
| 22:37.48 | A_Meteorite | I thought you knew :P |
| 22:38.31 | Gnurdux | there havent been any commits for almost 3 weeks |
| 22:38.44 | A_Meteorite | yikes |
| 22:38.49 | blast007 | sounds like my projects |
| 22:39.02 | A_Meteorite | we need to go catch RPG and put him in hand cuffs and make him work! |
| 22:39.06 | A_Meteorite | >:) |
| 22:39.07 | Gnurdux | hehe |
| 22:39.16 | Gnurdux | or get the other one |
| 22:39.54 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, btw have i showed you my theme plugin? |
| 22:40.02 | A_Meteorite | yes |
| 22:40.36 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 22:41.01 | Gnurdux | 2.0.6 is coming out on saturday |
| 22:41.33 | A_Meteorite | !!!? |
| 22:41.39 | A_Meteorite | How do YOU know? |
| 22:41.47 | Gnurdux | they were discussing it here |
| 22:41.51 | A_Meteorite | wow |
| 22:41.56 | A_Meteorite | I can't wait |
| 22:42.27 | Gnurdux | but i wanted my patches to make it into some release |
| 22:42.32 | Gnurdux | and this will be the last 2.0.x |
| 22:42.47 | Gnurdux | then 2.0.x will stop |
| 22:42.56 | Gnurdux | so no more server updates |
| 22:42.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): API function for giving players flags, from patch 1455857 |
| 22:43.04 | Mr_Molez | your theme thingy would be a nice addition to 2.0.6 |
| 22:43.09 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, its a plugin |
| 22:43.19 | Mr_Molez | it is ? |
| 22:43.24 | Gnurdux | no need to put that in, that can be downloaded |
| 22:43.28 | Gnurdux | yes, thats what plugins are for |
| 22:43.38 | Gnurdux | the thing that I want in is the patch that goes along with it |
| 22:43.38 | Mr_Molez | have up put it in the plugins section of /bb ? |
| 22:43.43 | Gnurdux | not yet |
| 22:43.46 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, its not DONE |
| 22:44.03 | Mr_Molez | useless ;) |
| 22:44.06 | JeffM2501 | nothing says you can't keep working on plugins for 2.0.x |
| 22:44.08 | JeffM2501 | after .6 |
| 22:44.14 | Gnurdux | exactly |
| 22:44.22 | Gnurdux | theres no pressure there Mr_Molez |
| 22:44.29 | Gnurdux | and its badly written, they wouldnt put it in |
| 22:44.31 | A_Meteorite | only, it won't be the newest version |
| 22:44.35 | Gnurdux | i dont think it works on windows |
| 22:45.04 | JeffM2501 | did you do linux specific stuff? |
| 22:45.08 | Gnurdux | no |
| 22:45.16 | JeffM2501 | they why would it not work? |
| 22:45.17 | Gnurdux | but the memory management stuff |
| 22:45.23 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 22:45.26 | Gnurdux | for stringLists and stuff like that |
| 22:45.27 | JeffM2501 | what memory management stuff |
| 22:45.31 | Gnurdux | read bzApi site |
| 22:45.33 | JeffM2501 | did you use API strings? |
| 22:45.36 | Gnurdux | the types section |
| 22:45.44 | JeffM2501 | if you used those then it's fine |
| 22:45.52 | JeffM2501 | those were made so it would work on windows |
| 22:46.00 | Gnurdux | These functions are bz_newIntList, bz_newFloatList, and bz_newStringList. |
| 22:46.02 | Gnurdux | i didnt do those |
| 22:46.08 | Gnurdux | and i also used some std::lists |
| 22:46.08 | JeffM2501 | that's fine |
| 22:46.13 | JeffM2501 | as long as they stay inside the plugin |
| 22:46.19 | Gnurdux | ahh |
| 22:46.24 | JeffM2501 | you only have to use the bz_ ones when you send data to or from the API |
| 22:46.24 | Gnurdux | but |
| 22:46.28 | Gnurdux | i do though |
| 22:46.31 | JeffM2501 | and those are the only choices |
| 22:46.37 | Gnurdux | i use local variables |
| 22:46.38 | JeffM2501 | noone in there right mind woudl use them internaly |
| 22:46.40 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 22:46.42 | Gnurdux | i just do: |
| 22:46.43 | JeffM2501 | locals are locals |
| 22:46.57 | JeffM2501 | it's fine to use STL inside your pluing |
| 22:47.03 | JeffM2501 | allmost all of the plugins use STL |
| 22:47.06 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.06 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.13 | Gnurdux | thats not OK is it? |
| 22:47.20 | JeffM2501 | thats the only way you can do it |
| 22:47.23 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 22:47.24 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:47.26 | JeffM2501 | dude that's bad |
| 22:47.28 | JeffM2501 | way bad |
| 22:47.34 | Gnurdux | only on windows |
| 22:47.41 | JeffM2501 | no, on linux too |
| 22:47.45 | Gnurdux | how/ |
| 22:47.48 | JeffM2501 | you don't have the implemenation of the list |
| 22:47.53 | JeffM2501 | parts of it may be in bzfs |
| 22:47.55 | Gnurdux | yes i do |
| 22:47.59 | Gnurdux | on linux i do |
| 22:48.06 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:48.13 | JeffM2501 | it's in the bzfs |
| 22:48.16 | JeffM2501 | and not exported |
| 22:48.18 | Gnurdux | well it works |
| 22:48.25 | JeffM2501 | due to luck |
| 22:48.26 | JeffM2501 | do it right |
| 22:48.29 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 22:48.31 | JeffM2501 | don't cheze hack it |
| 22:48.37 | Gnurdux | once i finish it ill clean it up |
| 22:49.08 | JeffM2501 | why not do it right as you make it? |
| 22:49.13 | Gnurdux | hmm |
| 22:49.17 | Gnurdux | ill clean it up now then |
| 22:50.05 | Gnurdux | is there any way to convert a bzfsapistringlist to a vector<string> |
| 22:50.21 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:50.37 | Gnurdux | cause you can do vice versa |
| 22:50.46 | JeffM2501 | you can iterate thru it and build one up |
| 22:50.49 | Gnurdux | hmm ill fix it up tonight |
| 22:50.50 | Gnurdux | true |
| 22:51.19 | Gnurdux | its actually badly designed in some other ways |
| 22:51.36 | Gnurdux | i certainly dont want it included, all i want is the patch for /reset which nicely complements it |
| 22:53.26 | JeffM2501 | plugins don't have to be included |
| 22:53.29 | JeffM2501 | that's the point of them |
| 22:53.36 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, should i use bzflag api strings internally? |
| 22:53.38 | Gnurdux | or not |
| 22:53.43 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to |
| 22:53.50 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 22:54.17 | JeffM2501 | in general you should never allocate your own bz_ anything |
| 22:54.35 | JeffM2501 | since part of it may be implemented in a difrent module |
| 22:55.43 | Gnurdux | on linux its all in a shared address space, so thats why it works |
| 22:55.47 | Gnurdux | i think |
| 22:55.55 | JeffM2501 | linux isn't the only way things are done |
| 22:56.09 | Gnurdux | true |
| 22:56.18 | Gnurdux | i might as well make it generic and cross platform |
| 22:56.25 | Gnurdux | also i might as well use an std::map internall |
| 22:56.26 | Gnurdux | y |
| 22:56.30 | Gnurdux | rather than 2 lists |
| 22:56.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah for ALL those windows servers |
| 22:58.34 | Gnurdux | crap is it possible to use a map where both of the things are strings? |
| 22:58.42 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 22:58.51 | Gnurdux | how? |
| 22:58.53 | JeffM2501 | you have to define a comparitor for std::string tho |
| 22:58.59 | Gnurdux | 1] Map::iterator is not a mutable iterator, because map::value_type is not Assignable. That is, if i is of type map::iterator and p is of type map::value_type, then *i = p is not a valid expression. |
| 22:59.22 | JeffM2501 | you have to define a > operator for std::string |
| 22:59.35 | JeffM2501 | windows defines that by default |
| 22:59.41 | JeffM2501 | your compiler does not? |
| 23:00.35 | Gnurdux | it probably does |
| 23:00.47 | JeffM2501 | how did you define the map then? |
| 23:01.04 | Gnurdux | i didnt get it to compile |
| 23:01.10 | Gnurdux | im just gonna go back to my old way |
| 23:01.11 | JeffM2501 | how did you define the map then? |
| 23:01.17 | Gnurdux | but fix the non-crossplatform way |
| 23:01.24 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, i didnt define it properly |
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| 23:11.48 | Sir_Kay_Knight | HI ALL! |
| 23:14.50 | blast007 | hello |
| 23:15.03 | Gnurdux | dont scare them |
| 23:15.19 | Sir_Kay_Knight | huh |
| 23:15.24 | Sir_Kay_Knight | oj lol |
| 23:15.27 | Sir_Kay_Knight | oh lol |
| 23:15.32 | Sir_Kay_Knight | ;D |
| 23:15.32 | Gnurdux | or annoy |
| 23:15.33 | Sir_Kay_Knight | ;D |
| 23:15.35 | Sir_Kay_Knight | ;D |
| 23:15.38 | Sir_Kay_Knight | KK |
| 23:15.39 | Gnurdux | ok i think i just genicised theming |
| 23:15.42 | Gnurdux | thats called annoying |
| 23:15.47 | Gnurdux | dont get banned like i did yesterday |
| 23:15.48 | Sir_Kay_Knight | OOPS |
| 23:15.49 | Sir_Kay_Knight | ;D |
| 23:15.52 | Sir_Kay_Knight | K |
| 23:15.55 | Sir_Kay_Knight | IM LEAVING FOR HW |
| 23:15.57 | Sir_Kay_Knight | BYE |
| 23:16.37 | SportyGal | wow, noobs have taken over #bzflag? |
| 23:16.48 | blast007 | yeah |
| 23:16.53 | JeffM2501 | tell me about it SportyGal |
| 23:17.01 | Gnurdux | n00bs like me? |
| 23:17.05 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 23:17.07 | blast007 | I recall Sir_Kay /kill'ing me for shooting them... |
| 23:17.19 | A_Meteorite | The Attack of The N00bs! |
| 23:17.24 | blast007 | just because I took their camping spot :) |
| 23:18.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (6 files): make effects show in the tank color not team color to work with masq, CB, and other mind affecting flags ( from patch 1227908 ) |
| 23:18.40 | Gnurdux | ooh your going through the patches |
| 23:19.19 | JeffM2501 | some of them |
| 23:19.26 | JeffM2501 | the ones I asigned to myself |
| 23:19.30 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 23:19.40 | Gnurdux | mopst arent very recent |
| 23:19.49 | JeffM2501 | most are breaking changes |
| 23:20.32 | Gnurdux | ok i just fixed my plugin :D |
| 23:20.43 | JeffM2501 | umm great for you |
| 23:23.58 | JeffM2501 | ugg.. your patches are flawed man |
| 23:24.07 | Gnurdux | why? |
| 23:24.16 | JeffM2501 | you assume args[0] |
| 23:24.23 | Gnurdux | that was the old one |
| 23:24.23 | Gnurdux | crap |
| 23:24.24 | *** part/#bzflag wad (n=wad@216.49.181.109) |
| 23:24.36 | Gnurdux | must not have updated |
| 23:25.07 | Gnurdux | lemme fix |
| 23:25.32 | Gnurdux | sry JeffM2501 for wasting your time, ill tell you when im done |
| 23:25.34 | Gnurdux | bbs dinner |
| 23:25.41 | JeffM2501 | and it's damn ugly |
| 23:25.44 | JeffM2501 | no I'm fixing it |
| 23:26.18 | Gnurdux | ok thanks |
| 23:26.35 | Gnurdux | what i did is i declared the variable on top |
| 23:26.38 | Gnurdux | and did: |
| 23:26.50 | JeffM2501 | then you asign in IN the iff |
| 23:26.53 | JeffM2501 | very ugly |
| 23:27.07 | Gnurdux | else if (!(BZDB.isSet(args[0]) && ((permission = BZDB.getPermission(args[0])) == StateDatabase::ReadWrite || permission == StateDatabase::Locked))) |
| 23:27.10 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 23:27.14 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's the ugly part |
| 23:27.14 | Gnurdux | yes that is what i did |
| 23:27.23 | JeffM2501 | and what if there is no args[0] |
| 23:27.30 | Gnurdux | look right up |
| 23:27.32 | Gnurdux | its an elseif |
| 23:27.40 | Gnurdux | for if (args.size() < 2) { |
| 23:27.46 | Gnurdux | thats why i had to assign it in the if |
| 23:27.53 | JeffM2501 | your in the ELSE case of that |
| 23:28.02 | Gnurdux | exactly |
| 23:28.02 | JeffM2501 | so size is less then 2 |
| 23:28.05 | JeffM2501 | 0 is less then 2 |
| 23:28.06 | Gnurdux | no |
| 23:28.10 | Gnurdux | thats a less sign on top |
| 23:28.19 | Gnurdux | so args has to be greater than 2 |
| 23:28.22 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 23:28.26 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 23:28.29 | Gnurdux | and thats why i have to do the assign |
| 23:28.33 | Gnurdux | to not assume args[0] |
| 23:28.34 | JeffM2501 | well still doing the asignment IN the iff |
| 23:28.36 | Gnurdux | dinner time now |
| 23:28.37 | JeffM2501 | that's ugly |
| 23:28.48 | Gnurdux | i oculd get rid of the variable and call the func twice |
| 23:28.55 | JeffM2501 | I've fixed it allready |
| 23:29.01 | Gnurdux | thats the more minor patch tho, the other one is more important |
| 23:29.02 | Gnurdux | thnx |
| 23:29.12 | Gnurdux | dinner now ill be back in 20 mins or so but thnx agfain |
| 23:32.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: cleanup and apply patch 1458753 to not let polls with invalid variables be run |
| 23:38.06 | A_Meteorite | is the list server down? |
| 23:38.10 | A_Meteorite | or something |
| 23:38.22 | A_Meteorite | all of a sudden global login doesn't work on my server but all other servers are fine :| |
| 23:38.27 | blast007 | ~bzflist |
| 23:38.47 | A_Meteorite | ~bzfquery bzflag.bpa.nu:4422 |
| 23:38.59 | A_Meteorite | hmmmmm |
| 23:39.24 | A_Meteorite | ~bzfquery bzflag.bpa.nu:4422 |
| 23:39.33 | A_Meteorite | ok... |
| 23:39.44 | A_Meteorite | I wonder why meteorite_owner won't login via global login |
| 23:40.05 | blast007 | I don't see that server on the list |
| 23:40.17 | A_Meteorite | me neither |
| 23:40.28 | A_Meteorite | I just logged in using my callsign and it won't login either |
| 23:40.37 | A_Meteorite | I didn't change anything in the config either... O_o |
| 23:40.42 | A_Meteorite | I just restarted the dang thing |
| 23:42.53 | A_Meteorite | how weird... |
| 23:43.03 | A_Meteorite | I just re-created a new userdb and it works fine |
| 23:43.33 | A_Meteorite | wait... never mind |
| 23:43.39 | A_Meteorite | it still won't login >:( |
| 23:43.57 | A_Meteorite | instead it doesn't tell me that I'm not logged in now |
| 23:44.47 | A_Meteorite | it's not on the list either... O_o |
| 23:47.23 | A_Meteorite | ok... for some reason the list server (or the server firewall) won't do port 4422 |
| 23:47.29 | A_Meteorite | I switched back to 4420 and it works |
| 23:48.25 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, you moved it? |
| 23:49.03 | Gnurdux | to where the poll starts? |
| 23:49.43 | Gnurdux | wait nope |
| 23:49.47 | Gnurdux | ah but still good |
| 23:49.57 | Gnurdux | cool thanks |
| 23:53.43 | blast007 | so the poll will still run? |
| 23:54.51 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 23:55.00 | Gnurdux | cause he put it in bzfs.cxx where i put it |
| 23:55.12 | Gnurdux | but it also already had a check there for only one arg |
| 23:55.19 | Gnurdux | and it let it run for that too |
| 23:56.23 | JeffM2501 | I just cleaned up your code |
| 23:56.31 | JeffM2501 | to make it not fugly |
| 23:56.40 | Gnurdux | ok thanks |
| 23:56.49 | Gnurdux | the other patch is the more noticeable one |
| 23:57.11 | JeffM2501 | it's done too |
| 23:57.22 | Gnurdux | it is? |
| 23:57.25 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:57.26 | Gnurdux | but not committed is it? |
| 23:57.28 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 23:57.35 | JeffM2501 | doing the paperwork on it |
| 23:57.39 | Gnurdux | ok thanks thought cool! |
| 23:59.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): use values from config and world set as default db values ( from patch 1458884 ) |
| 23:59.58 | Gnurdux | cool! |
