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| 00:03.32 | A_Meteorite | is there a script that someone can use (on their own website) in PHP that tells who's playing? |
| 00:03.37 | A_Meteorite | like what my.bzflag.org uses |
| 00:03.56 | A_Meteorite | I can't seem to find it in CVS.. probably looking in the wrong place |
| 00:05.38 | blast007 | there's a bzfquery.php file in the misc/ directory |
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| 12:43.49 | Mr_Molez | Can there be a feature on the /bb forums to choose whether to see win xp's posts or not :P |
| 12:49.06 | gsnedders | :P |
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| 13:08.11 | {janis} | hi all |
| 13:11.35 | Mr_Molez | nevermind got it :P |
| 13:11.58 | Mr_Molez | hey {janis} |
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| 17:16.40 | brlcad | muahaha |
| 17:16.42 | brlcad | http://img252.echo.cx/img252/8159/006wo.swf |
| 17:19.50 | Mr_Molez | I can't do things like that I keep expecting some scary face to suddenly popup on the screen |
| 17:20.23 | brlcad | :) |
| 17:20.27 | brlcad | so you've been suckered before |
| 17:20.43 | Mr_Molez | heh too many times :P you seen the relaxing drive one ? |
| 17:20.55 | brlcad | yep |
| 17:21.02 | brlcad | (no reaction) :) |
| 17:21.22 | Mr_Molez | pfft. Did you have your speakers up ? |
| 17:21.31 | brlcad | yep |
| 17:21.42 | Mr_Molez | aww :( |
| 17:21.44 | brlcad | the empty room picture frame was was better :) |
| 17:22.08 | Mr_Molez | I don't think I have seen that one |
| 17:24.11 | CBG | done it before.. ;) |
| 17:24.31 | Mr_Molez | CBG: need a new roof afterwards ? |
| 17:24.41 | CBG | nope, it's boring. |
| 17:24.46 | Mr_Molez | aww |
| 17:25.07 | brlcad | some of my friends about crapped their pants |
| 17:25.27 | CBG | o.O |
| 17:25.43 | CBG | do they have heart attacks when someone slams a car door? |
| 17:26.13 | brlcad | some of them |
| 17:26.20 | CBG | sheesh. |
| 17:26.49 | brlcad | it's also about cleverly suckering them into it with some preparation |
| 17:27.06 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 17:27.07 | CBG | preparation for what? |
| 17:27.19 | CBG | nothing happens, its plain boring. |
| 17:27.20 | brlcad | set them up for a good fall |
| 17:27.46 | brlcad | CBG: i don't mean that specific one with the car, there are others |
| 17:27.53 | Mr_Molez | CBG: you must have seen the crap ones |
| 17:27.54 | brlcad | there are better ones too imo |
| 17:28.16 | Mr_Molez | sound does it for me more than the picture |
| 17:30.24 | purple_cow | brlcad: you're such a friend |
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| 17:50.33 | Mr_Molez | brlcad: For people with bad eye sight I have heared they have trouble seeing the flag colours once they have picked up the flag. Could there be a set # in the config file made so that people could increase the size of the flag on their to so they can see it better ? |
| 17:51.22 | Mr_Molez | *on their tank, so they could see * |
| 17:52.20 | gsnedders | a x second grace period, of which you cannot be killed. |
| 17:52.24 | gsnedders | *in |
| 17:53.17 | Mr_Molez | gsnedders: I thought that was already in the code albeit not very long ? |
| 17:53.28 | gsnedders | Mr_Molez: nope. |
| 17:53.33 | Mr_Molez | ah ok |
| 17:54.11 | gsnedders | Mr_Molez: if it is, it's so short you can be killed within 0.1 seconds of spawning :P |
| 17:56.19 | Mr_Molez | infact increase the size of all flags.. |
| 17:56.31 | Mr_Molez | whether on tank or not :P |
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| 18:09.31 | JeffM2501 | IIRC there is a server side variable for that |
| 18:10.03 | Mr_Molez | :) |
| 18:10.18 | Mr_Molez | ~IIRC |
| 18:10.19 | ibot | [iirc] "if I recall correctly" |
| 18:11.11 | Mr_Molez | nice but I don't think people with sight problems would like to be limited to the servers they play on |
| 18:11.24 | JeffM2501 | it's so that it can't be used as a cheat |
| 18:11.41 | JeffM2501 | you couild make the flags huge to get a visial advantage on where people are |
| 18:12.17 | Mr_Molez | uhhuh |
| 18:12.18 | JeffM2501 | if you want to make the game "fair" regardless of the player, just make each tank kill roll some dice |
| 18:12.48 | trepan | do not pass GO, do not collect $200 |
| 18:12.55 | Mr_Molez | how about having a limit on the maximum size of the flag ? |
| 18:13.06 | JeffM2501 | at some point in an action game you have to use the skill of the player |
| 18:13.31 | Mr_Molez | or who can see best ;) |
| 18:13.39 | JeffM2501 | that is part of your skill |
| 18:13.44 | Mr_Molez | ehe |
| 18:13.46 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 18:13.53 | JeffM2501 | there are people who are faster, can see better, or think faster |
| 18:14.05 | Mr_Molez | true |
| 18:14.11 | JeffM2501 | in an acton game, people with faster reflexes will have an advantage |
| 18:14.19 | JeffM2501 | if you want to take that out, then you go turn based stat game |
| 18:14.22 | ndim | Or people with larger monitors. |
| 18:14.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah, they could lower the res and get a big ass display |
| 18:15.40 | ndim | Or faster graphics cards and faster network connections. |
| 18:15.40 | Mr_Molez | what about increased radar size, could you not say the same for that ? |
| 18:15.40 | JeffM2501 | it's a game, not an OS, it dosn' tneed 1000 and 1 disability features |
| 18:15.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah I don't like the big radar idea |
| 18:15.40 | JeffM2501 | I want to change radar |
| 18:15.41 | JeffM2501 | to be more likie.. radar |
| 18:15.48 | JeffM2501 | not a satalite view of the game |
| 18:15.57 | ndim | Mr_Molez: Two ways to get increased radar size... change the settings... or buy a 40" screen. |
| 18:15.58 | JeffM2501 | it's a cruch too many people rely on |
| 18:16.23 | Mr_Molez | It's not radar size im interested in :) |
| 18:16.30 | CBG | Some people use ONLY the radar... |
| 18:16.43 | ndim | JeffM2501: Not that there is anything wrong with a 2D based tank game... it's just a different game. |
| 18:16.48 | Mr_Molez | maybe its that crunch that makes the game worth playing, especially for gu / ducati players |
| 18:16.56 | JeffM2501 | yeah, it is a difrent game |
| 18:17.05 | JeffM2501 | bzflag as it is now is a 2.5 game |
| 18:17.27 | JeffM2501 | you have to decide how you want the game to go, chess or action |
| 18:17.40 | Mr_Molez | its fine as it is :P |
| 18:17.44 | Mr_Molez | it was fine in 10.8 |
| 18:17.47 | Mr_Molez | :P |
| 18:17.52 | JeffM2501 | then why change it at all |
| 18:18.01 | Mr_Molez | I never asked for it :P |
| 18:18.16 | JeffM2501 | you asked for a change to the flags |
| 18:18.48 | Mr_Molez | I sure did |
| 18:18.59 | CBG | The main thing I *want* right now, is for bzflag to recognise my "§" key. :) |
| 18:19.39 | Mr_Molez | why ? |
| 18:20.16 | CBG | Because I have different radar sizes for keys 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 (6 and 7 zoom in and out.) |
| 18:20.32 | Mr_Molez | you use all of them :O ? |
| 18:20.47 | CBG | I want to add a super close zoom in before my '1' key to use when passing the flag at gu (hix map). |
| 18:21.06 | Mr_Molez | ah ok |
| 18:21.10 | CBG | Mr_Molez: I used 4 keys for ages now. added a 5th recently, not used to it yet but already finidng it useful. |
| 18:21.12 | JeffM2501 | it probably sees it as ~ or ` |
| 18:21.33 | CBG | :( |
| 18:21.45 | JeffM2501 | manyaly add it to your config and see |
| 18:21.54 | CBG | Thats what I did. |
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| 18:22.00 | CBG | It's not recognised. |
| 18:22.08 | JeffM2501 | try manualy adding it as ` |
| 18:22.44 | CBG | That's a different key. |
| 18:22.54 | JeffM2501 | not to the game I don't think |
| 18:23.07 | JeffM2501 | it's probalby not seeing your system localle |
| 18:23.07 | CBG | Well, I use the '`' key for something els.e |
| 18:23.18 | JeffM2501 | in the config what is that set to? |
| 18:23.24 | CBG | ` is my 2nd shoot key, pressing § did not shoot. |
| 18:23.37 | CBG | what is what set to? |
| 18:23.40 | JeffM2501 | is it ' or ` |
| 18:23.59 | JeffM2501 | what character in the config is set to your second shot key? |
| 18:24.03 | CBG | ` |
| 18:24.22 | JeffM2501 | probably some wierd mac SDL bug then |
| 18:24.54 | CBG | :( |
| 18:25.09 | JeffM2501 | you may want to see if there is an updated mac SDL |
| 18:25.11 | JeffM2501 | and rebuild |
| 18:25.21 | CBG | ugh, bummer. |
| 18:26.58 | ToughShooter | Some keys don't work at all inside bzflag |
| 18:27.16 | ToughShooter | I can not create a '~' for example from within the client |
| 18:28.07 | JeffM2501 | SDL dosn't have checks for all keys |
| 18:28.23 | JeffM2501 | usualy not the ones that get changed on difrent locales |
| 18:28.38 | ToughShooter | Well, it works for other people that have english keyboards and same OS |
| 18:28.57 | JeffM2501 | where do you think SDL was writen :) |
| 18:29.44 | ToughShooter | I guess it wasn't in the country where ARAM was involved :( |
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| 18:30.06 | ToughShooter | s/involved/invented |
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| 18:31.57 | blast007 | CBG: for me, that key is showing up as two characters...maybe that's why BZ doesn't like it? |
| 18:32.10 | CBG | two characters? o.O |
| 18:32.14 | ndim | Ah. UTF-8. |
| 18:32.17 | blast007 | yup |
| 18:32.57 | ToughShooter | CBG: Could you tell me, which value for chr will create '~' for you? |
| 18:32.58 | JeffM2501 | sdl dosn't do multibyte |
| 18:33.44 | CBG | ToughShooter: don't understand... |
| 18:34.03 | ToughShooter | nm then |
| 18:35.51 | TheRedBaron | ndim: howdy |
| 18:40.46 | blast007 | brlcad: I just spent 10 minutes clicking on a red button ;D |
| 18:41.31 | CBG | blast007: I did say it was boring... |
| 18:42.04 | ndim | TheRedBaron: G'day. |
| 18:42.57 | TheRedBaron | ndim: get your rear back on ducati/dub and play :) |
| 18:43.43 | Mr_Molez | ndim: hi btw :P |
| 18:44.09 | ndim | Mr_Molez: :) |
| 18:44.23 | Mr_Molez | ;) |
| 18:44.46 | ndim | TheRedBaron: I can't. My computer is set up for a dual monitor config - and that rules out using it for 3D stuff with double buffering. |
| 18:44.56 | ndim | And I need the two screens. |
| 18:47.28 | TheRedBaron | ah :( |
| 18:48.33 | JeffM2501 | just get a dual head card that can do it |
| 18:49.07 | ndim | Laptops don't come that cheap. |
| 18:49.52 | JeffM2501 | get a real computer ;) |
| 18:50.52 | ndim | 1400x1050 on the builtin TFT plus 1024x768 on the external CRT makes for a 2424x1050 virtual screen which exceeds the 2048xsomething which still work with 3D acceleration. |
| 18:51.08 | ndim | JeffM2501: No problem. You're paying, I gather? :) |
| 18:51.36 | JeffM2501 | 32 meg card or something? |
| 18:51.44 | ndim | And I have to say... for doing real work, having two physical screens rules. |
| 18:54.12 | JeffM2501 | 3 is better |
| 18:54.18 | ndim | JeffM2501: I think it was 32MB, right. IBM ThinkPad A31 with a ATI Radeon Mobility M7. |
| 18:54.29 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 18:54.31 | JeffM2501 | I'm sorry |
| 18:54.35 | ndim | JeffM2501: Of course. I use the serial terminal for the third :) |
| 18:54.35 | JeffM2501 | those chipsets suck |
| 18:54.38 | Mr_Molez | anyone got an intel pentium D dual core 64bit ? |
| 18:54.49 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow does IIRC |
| 18:55.16 | ndim | JeffM2501: But the 118dpi TFT rules very much. |
| 18:55.39 | JeffM2501 | must be an older lapy to have such a crap chipset on it |
| 18:55.54 | ndim | 2001 or 2002, IIRC. |
| 18:56.19 | ndim | At least it works without any binary-only drivers. |
| 18:56.38 | JeffM2501 | well "works" is probably a reltive term :) |
| 18:56.55 | JeffM2501 | I remember dri on my M4, it was less then stellar |
| 18:57.39 | ndim | It's sufficient for a little bzflag and the openracing thingy, that's all I ask from it. |
| 18:58.03 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:58.08 | ndim | OK, FlightGear would be nice, but I'll need to buy another machine for it. |
| 18:58.12 | JeffM2501 | untill trepan gets done with yea :) |
| 18:58.26 | JeffM2501 | if it's ain't got shaders.. it's crap.. |
| 18:58.44 | JeffM2501 | current lapys are shiping with deent chipsets |
| 18:58.54 | JeffM2501 | we have some with quadros they work quite well |
| 18:59.00 | trepan | crap, aka the same as it is now, new is optional |
| 18:59.14 | ndim | OTOH... before pumping thousands of dollars into a gaming computer, I could of course use the money to buy flying lessons. :) |
| 19:00.01 | JeffM2501 | you shouldn't ahve to pump thousands |
| 19:00.12 | JeffM2501 | decent gaming systems are easy for around 500$ |
| 19:00.50 | gsnedders | that's £285… |
| 19:01.01 | gsnedders | you can get an absolute entry level computer for that :P |
| 19:01.17 | JeffM2501 | entry level PCs here cost 200$ |
| 19:01.32 | gsnedders | freckin' hell. |
| 19:02.05 | trepan | sans windows? :) |
| 19:02.07 | JeffM2501 | I got a little sempy for 180$, put a 6200, and a gig of ram in it for another 200 and it was golden |
| 19:02.10 | JeffM2501 | yaeh no windows |
| 19:02.14 | JeffM2501 | came with linux |
| 19:02.36 | trepan | what's windows cost these days, off the shelf? |
| 19:02.44 | JeffM2501 | home, about 80$ |
| 19:02.51 | JeffM2501 | tho it's easy to get it on sale for cheap |
| 19:02.57 | JeffM2501 | like 20-50 |
| 19:03.18 | ndim | What does one need Windows for? |
| 19:03.26 | JeffM2501 | pro retail is like 250, but it's easy to get OEM for about 100 |
| 19:03.31 | JeffM2501 | playing FEAR |
| 19:03.39 | JeffM2501 | and other current games :) |
| 19:03.48 | ndim | Too expensive for my taste. |
| 19:04.01 | TheRedBaron | Jeffm2501: fear scared me |
| 19:04.03 | trepan | $80, + office apps, + etc... more then the h/w to be useful |
| 19:04.03 | JeffM2501 | then windows you do not need |
| 19:04.20 | JeffM2501 | you can still run openoffice on windows |
| 19:05.08 | trepan | ah, true, but then bill doesn't love you |
| 19:05.19 | JeffM2501 | who said bill had to love you? |
| 19:05.26 | JeffM2501 | I just want to play a game or 2 :) |
| 19:05.33 | JeffM2501 | it's a tool, not a religon |
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| 19:08.55 | JeffM2501 | then you should hate your hardware too :) |
| 19:09.43 | trepan | amd came up as the underdogs, they get a conditional reprieve |
| 19:09.53 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 19:10.33 | brlcad | purple_cow: hehe |
| 19:11.29 | brlcad | Mr_Molez: increase the size of the flag where? on the radar? .. |
| 19:11.37 | Mr_Molez | yeh |
| 19:12.22 | brlcad | ahh, long hashout of that followed.. never mind |
| 19:12.46 | brlcad | blast007: muahaha :) |
| 19:12.52 | Mr_Molez | uh |
| 19:13.04 | blast007 | :) |
| 19:13.25 | brlcad | :) |
| 19:14.04 | brlcad | yeah, there was a neat bug in 1.7g2 for Mac related to "flag size" |
| 19:14.05 | ndim | I have to note that 1px-lines can indeed be hard to see on a 118dpi TFT. |
| 19:14.27 | brlcad | there was some bad geometry that caused an infinite pole to shoot out of the tops of the tanks |
| 19:14.36 | Mr_Molez | :O |
| 19:14.41 | brlcad | so that you could see where every tank was on the field |
| 19:14.50 | brlcad | like bumper cars with the electric pole |
| 19:15.18 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 19:15.21 | ndim | Hehe... |
| 19:15.21 | trepan | Mr_Molez: increasnig _flagRadius should do it, but it used to indicate the flag capture range |
| 19:16.03 | Mr_Molez | Needs to be done client side |
| 19:16.09 | brlcad | _flagHeight no? |
| 19:16.28 | brlcad | one of them (used to) make the flags scale |
| 19:16.52 | trepan | 234: GLfloat s = BZDBCache::flagRadius > 3.0f * ps ? BZDBCache::flagRadius : 3.0f * ps; |
| 19:17.37 | trepan | _flagHeight is mostly for spawn coldet, iirc |
| 19:18.15 | brlcad | at one point, though, it did make them render different |
| 19:18.23 | brlcad | maybe not a scale, maybe just the height of the pole |
| 19:18.39 | brlcad | or maybe there's a poleHeight |
| 19:18.51 | brlcad | i just remember playing around with that pole height with some var |
| 19:19.14 | brlcad | maybe 1.9ism |
| 19:19.28 | Mr_Molez | Would it cause any problems for the game if in the config file for the flag radius size you could change it. But for it to have a set limit |
| 19:19.35 | trepan | flagPoleSize |
| 19:21.59 | trepan | p.s. line 234: was from RadarRenderer.cxx :) |
| 19:27.30 | Mr_Molez | :P |
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| 21:08.44 | JeffM2501 | anyone know who "pieinthesky" is? |
| 21:09.32 | CBG | not the server owner? |
| 21:09.38 | JeffM2501 | I don't know |
| 21:10.21 | JeffM2501 | just a user by that name |
| 21:10.47 | TheRedBaron | i think poxy owns pieinthesky |
| 21:11.35 | JeffM2501 | I don't know if the user has anything todo with the server |
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| 21:26.03 | a_temp_dist | poxy does indeed own pieinthesky |
| 21:26.15 | a_temp_dist | but he's been MIA for a long time |
| 21:26.52 | a_temp_dist | there's a new user "pieinthesky fan" though - you may be thinking of |
| 21:26.52 | JeffM2501 | does he use the username "pieinthesky" ? |
| 21:26.55 | a_temp_dist | no |
| 21:27.02 | JeffM2501 | yes it is the user |
| 21:27.10 | JeffM2501 | does anyone know who that user is |
| 21:27.24 | brlcad | never heard/seen |
| 21:27.55 | brlcad | not that 'pits' would be on a non-jumper |
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| 23:17.42 | Frikal | hello |
| 23:18.04 | Tupone | hi |
| 23:18.31 | Frikal | can someone make like a multi level map? |
| 23:18.42 | Frikal | wherer the goal is to get to the bottom |
| 23:18.58 | Frikal | and you use portals to get there |
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| 23:20.24 | Tupone | we have 172 servers out there. Nobody with the map you like? |
| 23:20.46 | Gnurdux | Frikal hasnt been being annoying has he? |
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| 23:23.15 | Frikal | nope |
| 23:23.16 | Frikal | none |
| 23:23.22 | Frikal | Gnurdux |
| 23:23.30 | Frikal | tell him about my perfect BZmap idea |
| 23:23.34 | Gnurdux | uh oh |
| 23:23.38 | Gnurdux | what is it Frikal |
| 23:23.40 | Gnurdux | you can tell me |
| 23:23.45 | Gnurdux | and you can make it |
| 23:23.56 | Gnurdux | or tell it to LouMan, the best mapmaker in the world |
| 23:24.03 | Frikal | ok |
| 23:24.06 | Frikal | where is he |
| 23:25.06 | eXtreme | he's behind you |
| 23:25.58 | Gnurdux | whos behind who? |
| 23:26.09 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 23:26.16 | Gnurdux | Louman is prolly not online now |
| 23:26.22 | Gnurdux | hes like an adult i think |
| 23:26.26 | Gnurdux | i think he has a job |
| 23:26.30 | Gnurdux | anyway Frikal whats the idea |
| 23:27.32 | Frikal | REMEMBER? |
| 23:27.35 | Frikal | from TIC |
| 23:27.42 | Gnurdux | remember what Frikal ? |
| 23:27.47 | Frikal | the multi level map idea |
| 23:27.54 | Frikal | with the end winning |
| 23:27.57 | Gnurdux | there are plenty multi-level maps |
| 23:28.02 | Frikal | and each level down is harder? |
| 23:28.05 | Gnurdux | usually you dont "win" in bz |
| 23:28.12 | Gnurdux | usually its each level UP is harder |
| 23:28.12 | Frikal | the perfect map |
| 23:28.17 | Gnurdux | how many levels/ |
| 23:28.19 | Gnurdux | 3? |
| 23:28.22 | Frikal | remember |
| 23:28.23 | Frikal | 5 |
| 23:28.28 | Frikal | and we decided down |
| 23:28.37 | Gnurdux | down is impossiblei think |
| 23:28.38 | Frikal | because it would be BELOW the ground |
| 23:28.51 | Frikal | YOU suggested it!! |
| 23:28.52 | Gnurdux | well if you had teles it might just let you |
| 23:28.56 | Frikal | at summer camp |
| 23:29.12 | Frikal | you said youd host it |
| 23:29.13 | Gnurdux | tell it to any real mapmaker |
| 23:29.14 | eXtreme | you can't go below 0 |
| 23:29.24 | Gnurdux | and 0 is the ground |
| 23:29.28 | Frikal | we tried it |
| 23:29.30 | eXtreme | right |
| 23:29.41 | Gnurdux | Frikal, tell LouMan or someone |
| 23:29.45 | Gnurdux | they will laugh in your face |
| 23:29.48 | Gnurdux | either that or make it |
| 23:29.51 | Gnurdux | either way is good for me |
| 23:29.56 | Frikal | WE TRIED IT!!!! |
| 23:30.00 | Frikal | with the mapmaker |
| 23:30.21 | Gnurdux | cause when I host, even when it says in big letters map by LouMan, idea by RitzBitz i still get all the credit |
| 23:30.27 | Gnurdux | Frikal, the mapmaker isnt part of bzflag |
| 23:30.34 | Gnurdux | mapmaker might support underground |
| 23:30.38 | Gnurdux | but bzflag does not |
| 23:31.51 | Gnurdux | so Frikal you have to be satisfied with up |
| 23:31.55 | Gnurdux | or even horizontal |
| 23:33.07 | Frikal | I can do with horizontal |
| 23:33.11 | Frikal | as long as |
| 23:33.15 | Gnurdux | what about up? |
| 23:33.19 | Frikal | no |
| 23:33.24 | Gnurdux | i like multi-level map |
| 23:33.24 | Frikal | it covers the sky |
| 23:33.28 | Gnurdux | hehe |
| 23:33.30 | Gnurdux | make a texture |
| 23:33.38 | Gnurdux | make the bottom of the lower level look like the sky |
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| 23:38.39 | Frikal | ok |
| 23:38.40 | Frikal | so |
| 23:38.50 | Frikal | who do I submit desightn s to |
| 23:38.57 | wegstar | ? |
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| 23:40.14 | Frikal | so what is loumans email? |
| 23:41.19 | SportyGal | Frikal: send him a pm on bzbb |