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| 00:12.33 | bz68 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.58 | blast007 | bz68: need something? :) |
| 00:13.08 | bz68 | ? |
| 00:13.14 | bz68 | umm, not really |
| 00:13.18 | blast007 | k |
| 00:13.20 | TD-Linux | I reccomend you type somenthing before pushing the enter key :) |
| 00:13.28 | bz68 | but space is awesome :P |
| 00:13.31 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.37 | TD-Linux | hmm |
| 00:13.54 | TD-Linux | I don't seem to find it exhilirating... |
| 00:13.58 | TD-Linux | let me try again |
| 00:13.59 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.06 | bz68 | o.O |
| 00:14.09 | TD-Linux | hmm.... I think I might have felt something tehre |
| 00:16.23 | bz68 | uh-oh >< |
| 00:16.50 | bz68 | i think my server is too scared to show up on the server list. |
| 00:17.09 | blast007 | you have everything forwarded properly? |
| 00:17.17 | bz68 | Yes. |
| 00:17.20 | TD-Linux | did you use -public? |
| 00:17.24 | bz68 | Yes. |
| 00:17.32 | TD-Linux | what server version are you running? |
| 00:17.37 | bz68 | 2.0.5b4 |
| 00:17.57 | TD-Linux | does your server computer have a static ip on your network? |
| 00:18.02 | bz68 | Yes. |
| 00:18.21 | TD-Linux | what is your net ip/address? |
| 00:18.23 | blast007 | what address/port are you using? |
| 00:18.29 | TD-Linux | I'll search the server list |
| 00:18.39 | bz68 | 5154. |
| 00:18.43 | bz68 | and |
| 00:18.50 | bz68 | 67.122.138.142 |
| 00:18.56 | bz68 | "-publicaddr 67.122.138.142:5154" |
| 00:19.07 | blast007 | your IP right now is 67.127.173.252 |
| 00:19.19 | TD-Linux | that could explain some of it :P |
| 00:19.28 | TD-Linux | do you need a -publicaddr? I forgot |
| 00:19.45 | bz68 | Umm... |
| 00:19.46 | wizatcomp | i believe so |
| 00:19.46 | bz68 | oops :P |
| 00:19.54 | blast007 | best would be to get a dynamic DNS hostname, and use that in your config |
| 00:19.58 | bz68 | gah O.O |
| 00:20.05 | blast007 | then you can just run a little client that detects a change in your IP |
| 00:20.12 | bz68 | now why didn't they till me it was dynamic :( |
| 00:20.15 | bz68 | *tell. |
| 00:20.36 | blast007 | usually if it doesen't say 'static', or you don't pay extra for static, it will change |
| 00:20.46 | blast007 | some not as often as others |
| 00:21.44 | bz68 | ok well, thankies! |
| 00:22.13 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:25.02 | wizatcomp | bz68: i believe that you can put a hostname in the -publicaddr |
| 00:25.31 | wizatcomp | so, if you were to use no-ip for example, you could use -publicaddr bz68.no-ip.com:5851 |
| 00:27.29 | bz68 | I just got a hostname and was about to do that, but thanks anyway |
| 00:28.52 | TD-Linux | a hint: if you omit the port number when using 5154, you get 5 more characters in your advertisement ;) |
| 00:28.57 | JeffM2501 | man is playerKilled a big ass function |
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| 01:27.02 | Gnurdux | #enable flags |
| 01:27.02 | Gnurdux | +f good |
| 01:27.03 | Gnurdux | #remove unwanted flags |
| 01:27.03 | Guu` | Gnurdux: are you 10? |
| 01:27.05 | Guu` | Gnurdux: Tah mah de |
| 01:27.05 | Gnurdux | -f BU |
| 01:27.07 | Gnurdux | -f OO |
| 01:27.09 | Gnurdux | -f PZ |
| 01:27.11 | Gnurdux | -f BU |
| 01:27.13 | Gnurdux | -f OO |
| 01:27.15 | Gnurdux | -f PZ |
| 01:27.23 | Gnurdux | wait |
| 01:27.24 | *** kick/#bzflag [Gnurdux!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
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| 01:27.32 | Gnurdux | sry |
| 01:27.35 | JeffM2501 | dude what was that? |
| 01:27.38 | Gnurdux | should i have pastebin |
| 01:27.41 | Gnurdux | from conf |
| 01:27.42 | JeffM2501 | umm YEAH |
| 01:27.45 | Gnurdux | i wanna know why it doesnt work |
| 01:27.53 | Gnurdux | the flags removed were still there |
| 01:27.54 | JeffM2501 | how about 1) asking first |
| 01:28.06 | JeffM2501 | 2) use bpastebin |
| 01:28.10 | Gnurdux | k |
| 01:28.14 | JeffM2501 | for your entire config |
| 01:28.22 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 01:28.30 | Gnurdux | sry |
| 01:28.48 | Gnurdux | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/40962 |
| 01:29.16 | Gnurdux | this is a server i host for someone |
| 01:29.26 | blast007 | first of all, you can do +f good{2} instead of putting 'good' twice |
| 01:29.27 | Gnurdux | but the point is the unwanted flags are still there |
| 01:29.30 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 01:29.43 | blast007 | second, you are only taking away one of the, for example, BU flags |
| 01:29.47 | blast007 | there is two on the map |
| 01:29.48 | Gnurdux | no |
| 01:29.51 | Gnurdux | i take away bot |
| 01:29.51 | Gnurdux | h |
| 01:30.01 | Gnurdux | read pastebin |
| 01:30.08 | Gnurdux | and there are still two |
| 01:30.13 | JeffM2501 | you said +good twice |
| 01:30.15 | Gnurdux | does -f not work for server 2.0.4 |
| 01:30.17 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 01:30.21 | JeffM2501 | that will add 2 good flags |
| 01:30.24 | Gnurdux | but i did -f twice |
| 01:30.26 | JeffM2501 | 2 of each |
| 01:30.30 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 01:30.31 | JeffM2501 | ahh you did |
| 01:30.35 | blast007 | ah, I see |
| 01:30.37 | JeffM2501 | not sure if it works that way tho |
| 01:30.41 | Gnurdux | but there are still 2! |
| 01:31.06 | Gnurdux | should i just +f all of the flags I want? |
| 01:31.21 | JeffM2501 | that is the best way to have controll |
| 01:31.30 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 01:31.54 | Gnurdux | +f A{2} |
| 01:31.55 | Guu` | Gnurdux: I'm sorry, that makes NO FREAKING SENSE to me what so ever. |
| 01:32.02 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:32.03 | Gnurdux | that adds to A flags? |
| 01:32.07 | Gnurdux | whats A again |
| 01:32.26 | Gnurdux | i was just looking through list of flags and A was top |
| 01:32.26 | blast007 | bzfs -help > bzfshelp.txt |
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| 01:37.34 | Gnurdux | why arwe there some flags with no i: and s: 0? |
| 01:37.55 | Gnurdux | +f bad |
| 01:37.56 | Gnurdux | +f good |
| 01:37.57 | Guu` | Gnurdux: Don't worry, I'm sure you'll figure it out someday. |
| 01:37.58 | Guu` | Gnurdux: Do I look like that kind of girl? |
| 01:38.05 | Gnurdux | is there a shorter way to do that? |
| 01:38.10 | Gnurdux | +f all? |
| 01:38.11 | Guu` | Dunno, Gnurdux. |
| 01:40.32 | Gnurdux | anyone here? |
| 01:41.47 | DTRemenak | Gnurdux: -f prevents the flag from being generated by +s/-s. it has no effect on flags specified by +f. |
| 01:41.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:41.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: get playerKilled to work with local players |
| 01:41.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: break up playerKilled to not be so huge, and to reuse existing code. |
| 01:41.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: notify server side bots when somone is killed. |
| 01:41.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: clean up TK logic. |
| 01:42.01 | blast007 | DTRemenak: oh.. |
| 01:42.05 | JeffM2501 | when you +f you are defineind the specific flag |
| 01:42.25 | DTRemenak | at least that's how it was in 1.7. haven't looked at that code since then :) |
| 01:42.39 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, that's how it is |
| 01:42.40 | blast007 | matches his symptons though :) |
| 01:42.45 | JeffM2501 | says so in the manpage |
| 01:42.49 | DTRemenak | blast007: yeah, that's what I figured |
| 01:42.58 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: and you trust the manpage? ;) |
| 01:43.00 | JeffM2501 | -f {good|bad|flag-id} |
| 01:43.01 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.03 | JeffM2501 | for old stuff |
| 01:43.04 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:43.06 | JeffM2501 | yes I do |
| 01:43.15 | DTRemenak | you have greater faith than I |
| 01:43.34 | JeffM2501 | the man page even has an EXAMPLE of how to do what he wants |
| 01:43.43 | JeffM2501 | An example of running a server with 40 to 50 flags except genocide would |
| 01:43.43 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.11 | DTRemenak | heh, notice that the example contradicts the -f description |
| 01:44.17 | JeffM2501 | yeah just read that |
| 01:44.22 | JeffM2501 | the second part is wrong |
| 01:44.25 | DTRemenak | so much for manpages ;) |
| 01:44.26 | JeffM2501 | the +s one is fine |
| 01:44.40 | Gnurdux | so there is no +f akk |
| 01:44.51 | JeffM2501 | the entire flag def system is just wacked |
| 01:44.53 | DTRemenak | +s 40 -s 40 -f bad -f G would do it |
| 01:44.54 | Guu` | DTRemenak: Huh? |
| 01:44.59 | DTRemenak | Guu`: shut up |
| 01:45.00 | Guu` | DTRemenak: are you 11? |
| 01:45.03 | blast007 | lol |
| 01:45.05 | JeffM2501 | she's set to + |
| 01:45.08 | JeffM2501 | add a space first |
| 01:45.08 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 01:45.10 | JeffM2501 | and she'll be fine |
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| 01:46.34 | DTRemenak | but yeah, you're right on the flag def system being wacked. that was one of the nicest things about bzfsgui-3...really being able to control the generated flags, visually. |
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| 01:47.28 | Gnurdux | whey are there 5 "good" flags with no identifier |
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| 01:48.20 | JeffM2501 | whey? |
| 01:48.25 | JeffM2501 | like with curds? |
| 01:48.39 | Gnurdux | why |
| 01:48.41 | Gnurdux | typo |
| 01:49.14 | brlcad | the html bzfsconf php page will let you control the generated flags somewhat visually |
| 01:49.36 | brlcad | might not be 100% up to date, but it is flag-wise iirc |
| 01:50.03 | Gnurdux | but why are there 5 good flags with no anything? |
| 01:50.10 | Gnurdux | what are they? |
| 01:50.21 | blast007 | Gnurdux: what are you talking about? |
| 01:50.37 | Gnurdux | if you do +f good |
| 01:50.40 | Gnurdux | and do /flag show |
| 01:50.45 | Gnurdux | there are 5 flags at the bottom |
| 01:50.51 | Gnurdux | which don list a flag type |
| 01:51.01 | brlcad | and they are? |
| 01:51.29 | Gnurdux | i dunno what they are |
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| 01:51.50 | Gnurdux | i can show you |
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| 01:53.02 | bz73 | hey..I'm using the Linux client and don't know how to adjust the autio when you're in the game |
| 01:53.10 | Gnurdux | [SERVER->] 43 p:-1 r:0 g:0 i: s:0 p:271.2x119.1x0.0 |
| 01:53.11 | bz73 | aren't there keys you can use? |
| 01:53.16 | Gnurdux | like that |
| 01:53.17 | bz73 | and also one for mute? |
| 01:53.37 | lan56 | adjust the sound volume in the main options menu, under "Audio" submenu |
| 01:53.40 | Gnurdux | tjere are 5 |
| 01:53.46 | Gnurdux | before them are ones like [SERVER->] 38 p:-1 r:1 g:4 i:WG s:1 p:-210.9x-316.4x0.0 |
| 01:53.50 | Gnurdux | thats from /flag show |
| 01:53.55 | bz73 | I know how to do that..but what about when you're in the game? |
| 01:54.12 | bz73 | aren't there keys you can make the audio go up/down? |
| 01:54.19 | blast007 | bz73: no |
| 01:54.24 | bz73 | and on/off? |
| 01:54.26 | bz73 | oh |
| 01:54.28 | Gnurdux | blast007, see ? |
| 01:54.54 | Gnurdux | tehy dont show unless you do +f good |
| 01:55.08 | blast007 | is that with the +s -s style config? |
| 01:55.12 | Gnurdux | no |
| 01:55.18 | Gnurdux | +f good and +f bad |
| 01:55.19 | Guu` | Gnurdux: NO this one goes here, THAT one goes there! |
| 01:55.24 | blast007 | lol |
| 01:55.25 | Gnurdux | but those are from the good |
| 01:55.46 | DTRemenak | hm, blank flag type is interesting. try picking one up. |
| 01:55.55 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:56.14 | Gnurdux | how do i find it |
| 01:56.24 | blast007 | newer server? |
| 01:56.29 | Gnurdux | 2.0.4 |
| 01:56.41 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.48 | blast007 | or do that |
| 01:56.50 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:56.54 | DTRemenak | then drive to the coordinates indicated by p: |
| 01:57.03 | blast007 | not sure when the /flag give was added |
| 01:57.26 | DTRemenak | can you specify a flag number for flag give? |
| 01:57.37 | blast007 | no idea |
| 01:57.55 | blast007 | maybe only type |
| 01:58.51 | Gnurdux | the flag is nonexistant |
| 01:59.04 | Gnurdux | how would i make 2 of each good flag other than BU? |
| 01:59.31 | DTRemenak | Gnurdux: at this point, you can't do that easily |
| 01:59.36 | blast007 | add each flag individually ;) |
| 01:59.37 | DTRemenak | you'd need to specify each flag |
| 01:59.40 | Gnurdux | k |
| 01:59.47 | DTRemenak | or, you could recompile your server without BU :) |
| 01:59.47 | Gnurdux | what do the blank flags do? |
| 01:59.53 | Gnurdux | i cant access them |
| 01:59.58 | Gnurdux | i went to coordinates |
| 01:59.59 | JeffM2501 | confuse children |
| 02:00.01 | DTRemenak | I dunno |
| 02:00.01 | Gnurdux | nothing there |
| 02:00.07 | blast007 | flag give allows flagid |
| 02:00.12 | DTRemenak | if they're not there, don't worry about them :) |
| 02:00.24 | Gnurdux | but the blank flags dont appear with +flag |
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| 02:04.12 | DTRemenak | brlcad: you collect screenshots? |
| 02:04.19 | DTRemenak | what an odd hobby |
| 02:04.28 | DTRemenak | not that I have anything against it :) |
| 02:05.32 | brlcad | :) |
| 02:05.41 | brlcad | i collect lots of useless stuff |
| 02:08.33 | wizatcomputer | is there a possibility of getting a current MySQL database "framework" if you will for the stats database? |
| 02:09.24 | JeffM2501 | like a dump? |
| 02:09.32 | wizatcomputer | but without the data, yes |
| 02:09.43 | DTRemenak | table structures |
| 02:09.44 | JeffM2501 | that I do not know how to do |
| 02:09.49 | wizatcomputer | DTRemenak: yes |
| 02:09.54 | DTRemenak | I don't remember how either |
| 02:09.57 | wizatcomputer | JeffM2501: there's a guide how to do it in the readme |
| 02:10.06 | JeffM2501 | what readme? |
| 02:10.12 | wizatcomputer | in the db folder |
| 02:10.24 | wizatcomputer | db/support/README |
| 02:10.34 | JeffM2501 | that woudl mean I would have to get db |
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| 02:11.02 | wizatcomputer | as in you don't have the file? |
| 02:11.07 | DTRemenak | http://cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/bzflag/db/support/README?rev=1.1 |
| 02:11.14 | wizatcomputer | yup |
| 02:11.17 | DTRemenak | that one? |
| 02:11.25 | wizatcomputer | yes |
| 02:11.46 | EbErT | jeffm, have you tested macnus's mac mapeditor at all? |
| 02:11.52 | EbErT | i don't think it works on my system |
| 02:12.00 | wizatcomputer | since what's provided isn't up to date with the php code |
| 02:12.07 | DTRemenak | hrm |
| 02:13.22 | blast007 | you should be able to fix up the tables by looking at the update script I would think |
| 02:13.40 | JeffM2501 | EbErT, you mean "iBZEdit" ? |
| 02:13.49 | blast007 | I managed to generate the tables from scratch back when I was working on some improvements to the stats site |
| 02:13.58 | EbErT | yes jeff |
| 02:14.04 | JeffM2501 | once or twice |
| 02:14.12 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it's stable |
| 02:14.14 | JeffM2501 | at all |
| 02:14.22 | JeffM2501 | and not ready for real editing |
| 02:14.23 | wizatcomputer | blast007: you mean db/update/update_data.php |
| 02:14.25 | wizatcomputer | ? |
| 02:14.31 | EbErT | ok, that's what i thought |
| 02:14.57 | JeffM2501 | binarySpike seems to be strugling thru it |
| 02:15.08 | DTRemenak | wizatcomputer: http://my.bzflag.org/temp/database_structure.sql |
| 02:15.11 | JeffM2501 | the bender method is going to be the map editor of the future anyway |
| 02:15.24 | wizatcomputer | ah |
| 02:15.26 | DTRemenak | thar ya goe, matey |
| 02:15.26 | wizatcomputer | thank you! |
| 02:15.33 | DTRemenak | no problem |
| 02:15.34 | EbErT | bender method? |
| 02:15.50 | EbErT | does that have to do with compatibility with macs? |
| 02:15.53 | blast007 | wizatcomputer: last I knew, there was some perl script for updating the stats |
| 02:16.11 | wizatcomputer | the comment is that "it must die" |
| 02:16.19 | JeffM2501 | EbErT, blender runs on all system |
| 02:16.21 | JeffM2501 | including the mac |
| 02:16.27 | JeffM2501 | well many OSs |
| 02:16.30 | wizatcomputer | bzupdate.pl is the script used to populate the stats tables. |
| 02:16.30 | wizatcomputer | It needs to die. |
| 02:16.35 | blast007 | ;) |
| 02:16.37 | JeffM2501 | so it has everyting to do with "mac compatability" |
| 02:17.08 | EbErT | awesome, didn'[t know about it. are there any test versions out yet? who is doing the work on it |
| 02:17.19 | blast007 | blender is a modeler |
| 02:17.42 | JeffM2501 | there have been posts on the froum by tepic on his work on the blender plugin |
| 02:17.59 | JeffM2501 | his plan is to make the plugin allow for full map editing inside of blender |
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| 02:18.37 | blast007 | that would be awesome |
| 02:18.43 | EbErT | good plan |
| 02:18.47 | blast007 | I'd just have to learn to use blender then ;) |
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| 02:19.03 | RPG_ | question: when a BZFS server has no players on it, does it still call the handlers for bz_eTickEvent in the API? |
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| 02:19.11 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, yes |
| 02:19.15 | JeffM2501 | just very slowly IIRC |
| 02:19.19 | RPG_ | hmm |
| 02:19.26 | RPG_ | how many times a minute ? |
| 02:19.26 | JeffM2501 | or it should |
| 02:19.32 | RPG_ | it appears as it's not |
| 02:19.45 | JeffM2501 | you can query the tick time |
| 02:19.50 | DTRemenak | 10x/sec |
| 02:19.51 | JeffM2501 | it gets realy log |
| 02:19.52 | DTRemenak | iirc |
| 02:19.54 | DTRemenak | 10/sec would be 600/minute |
| 02:20.07 | RPG_ | DTRemenak: when there's no players on the server? |
| 02:20.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah cus it still has to loop, to listen |
| 02:20.11 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 02:20.15 | RPG_ | hmm |
| 02:20.16 | DTRemenak | listening connections |
| 02:20.22 | JeffM2501 | unless the event call is in the wrong spot |
| 02:20.24 | JeffM2501 | and that is posible |
| 02:20.34 | DTRemenak | seemed to work for bzfscron |
| 02:20.42 | DTRemenak | but I suppose it probably thought it had a player |
| 02:20.48 | JeffM2501 | I'll look |
| 02:20.50 | JeffM2501 | I'm there anyway |
| 02:20.59 | DTRemenak | since there is that nasty back-connect thing |
| 02:21.39 | wizatcomputer | DTRemenak: think you could upload that to CVS to help out others? |
| 02:21.53 | DTRemenak | wizatcomputer: it changes from time to time |
| 02:21.59 | JeffM2501 | DAMN is that a big ass function |
| 02:22.07 | DTRemenak | that's why it has instructions for fetching it |
| 02:22.09 | wizatcomputer | it's that part of the advantage of cvs? |
| 02:22.24 | DTRemenak | wizatcomputer: not much of an advantage if people never update it ;) |
| 02:22.31 | wizatcomputer | true |
| 02:22.35 | wizatcomputer | but it's a start |
| 02:22.42 | wizatcomputer | the old one is missing entire tables |
| 02:22.50 | DTRemenak | is there one on it already? |
| 02:22.58 | wizatcomputer | yes |
| 02:23.01 | wizatcomputer | it's 14+ months old |
| 02:23.23 | JeffM2501 | ehh, there are a couple "continues" before the event is called |
| 02:23.26 | JeffM2501 | it could be skiping it |
| 02:23.29 | DTRemenak | ah, yeah it's there |
| 02:23.30 | JeffM2501 | I'll move it up to the top |
| 02:23.38 | RPG_ | yay |
| 02:23.51 | JeffM2501 | in dev |
| 02:24.16 | JeffM2501 | as soon as I get this sucker to build |
| 02:26.12 | wizatcomputer | heh, the copyright date on the stats page still reads 03 |
| 02:27.08 | RPG_ | is this change going to be in v2_0branch? |
| 02:27.18 | JeffM2501 | JeffM2501 in dev |
| 02:27.19 | blast007 | wonder if I still have all the changes I made to the stats site, way back when... |
| 02:27.35 | RPG_ | so 2.1? |
| 02:27.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10db/support/database_structure.sql: update |
| 02:27.57 | wizatcomputer | thanks :) |
| 02:28.02 | DTRemenak | np |
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| 02:28.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:28.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: call ticks first. |
| 02:28.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: let local players know about flag drops |
| 02:28.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: api to let local players drop flags |
| 02:28.15 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, what is the current development version? |
| 02:28.23 | RPG_ | errrr ok |
| 02:28.41 | JeffM2501 | I don't have 2.0.x code here |
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| 02:49.55 | wizatcomputer | argh |
| 02:49.59 | wizatcomputer | finally got stats working |
| 02:50.16 | *** part/#bzflag EbErT (n=edwardhu@168.16.136.171) |
| 02:50.40 | wizatcomputer | the CVS files haven't been updated in a while it seems, and what has been updated doesn't work with everything else |
| 02:51.35 | blast007 | how useful |
| 02:51.54 | wizatcomputer | oh very |
| 02:52.00 | blast007 | anyway, I'm setting up a local copy right now, and I'll see if there is anything I can fix up |
| 02:52.13 | blast007 | trying to get a working perl install first |
| 02:52.33 | wizatcomputer | trust me, there is |
| 02:54.38 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:08.03 | JeffM2501 | man, are the API docs going to have to change :) |
| 03:09.12 | blast007 | heh |
| 03:09.30 | JeffM2501 | fixed up the chat text events, so there is none one before and after the filter |
| 03:09.35 | JeffM2501 | and they don't get / commands anymore |
| 03:10.27 | JeffM2501 | so some events changed |
| 03:15.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (11 files in 4 dirs): |
| 03:15.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: move chat spam and garbage filters to there own file ( should put filter there too ). |
| 03:15.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: clean up chat send functions. |
| 03:15.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Break API chat hook into 2 hooks, one before, and one after filter. |
| 03:15.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Don't send "/" commands to API chat hooks ( they are for chat ). |
| 03:15.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: API for server side players to send text messages as players ( will parse "/" commands ). |
| 03:15.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Fix some comments ( admin channel is not unused ) |
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| 08:28.18 | Zathman | hello |
| 08:28.24 | Zathman | i've got a problem/question |
| 08:29.16 | Zathman | lol i just emerged/compiled bzflag and i'm in hte games group - but i can't get it to run |
| 08:29.16 | Zathman | what am i doing wrong |
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| 10:49.15 | LePoulpe303 | BzFire : wow at what do i owe the honor to be an admin ??? |
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| 11:06.19 | BzFire | LePoulpe303: your special :) |
| 11:06.37 | LePoulpe303 | lol |
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| 12:39.05 | jomojo | BzFire: you around? |
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| 13:22.24 | BzFire | jomojo: yes |
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| 13:56.44 | BzFire | jomojo: how can i help ? |
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| 15:46.34 | BzFire | how is it possible for players to send a message on a serverwith the name .. UNKNOWN: (something they type) |
| 15:52.02 | Chestal | BzFire: it's most probably a bug. UNKNOWN is printed when the client does not have an entry for the player id that is attached to the message |
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| 15:52.20 | BzFire | Chestal: ok thanks |
| 15:53.20 | ToughShooter | It happens when they have got applied their privs but before they are listed in the scoreboard and send their messages in that exact moment |
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| 16:21.02 | Teppic | Anyone available to dig a domain name for me please? |
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| 17:26.35 | BzFire | how do i set bzfs to make a new log everyday or not overwrite the current log when the server is restarted ? |
| 17:35.21 | sniperyyd | simply go into BZflag source and be the programmer |
| 17:35.22 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 17:35.51 | BzFire | too easy ;) |
| 17:36.21 | sniperyyd | yea |
| 17:36.24 | sniperyyd | :D |
| 17:48.36 | orange | divert the output through a filter that splits it up, or use some kind of log rotation program |
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| 18:10.47 | JeffM2501 | get brlcad to finish the loging enhancment |
| 18:17.04 | JeffM2501 | orchid, it will be ordered tomorow, asuming I don't find a store that has one today ;) |
| 18:28.47 | brlcad | yay, logging |
| 18:38.38 | orchid | yay, tommorow |
| 18:38.44 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:39.06 | JeffM2501 | and I may just spend an inordinant amount of money on a case |
| 18:39.22 | orchid | are you going to run that SLI do-dad with it? |
| 18:39.41 | JeffM2501 | not at present |
| 18:39.45 | JeffM2501 | right now I have one card |
| 18:39.48 | JeffM2501 | a 6800GS |
| 18:40.18 | orchid | hmm, I have a 6800 something |
| 18:40.25 | JeffM2501 | they are good cards |
| 18:40.32 | orchid | loud though :) |
| 18:40.39 | JeffM2501 | a friend of mine is offering me a 7800GTX |
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| 18:41.00 | gsnedders | I have a 6800 Ultra |
| 18:41.24 | orchid | ~congratulate Tupone |
| 18:41.25 | ibot | ACTION congratulates Tupone on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 18:41.32 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:41.33 | Tupone | 500 $$$$ ? |
| 18:41.36 | orchid | pfft ibot |
| 18:41.39 | JeffM2501 | what brick did you buy? |
| 18:41.43 | JeffM2501 | a mac mini? |
| 18:41.48 | Tupone | lol |
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| 18:45.40 | JeffM2501 | orchid, you ever turn yours vertical? |
| 18:45.56 | orchid | heh, I was reading up on that last week |
| 18:46.10 | JeffM2501 | I did it to one here, it's funny |
| 18:46.14 | orchid | I think ive already got the right xorg extensions to do it |
| 18:46.23 | JeffM2501 | I want to see a game done vertical |
| 18:46.26 | JeffM2501 | just for giggles |
| 18:46.29 | orchid | e great for editing and irc |
| 18:46.39 | orchid | not so good for bzflag id imagine |
| 18:47.00 | Chestal | good for Tetris! |
| 18:47.05 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:47.13 | Tupone | lol |
| 18:47.41 | orchid | vertical would waste way less space though |
| 18:48.56 | JeffM2501 | wonder if it would let you see "UP" more |
| 18:50.28 | JeffM2501 | my bigest concern is if I spend 280$ on a case |
| 18:51.08 | ToughShooter | ~bzflist |
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| 18:52.49 | orchid | whats the opposite of landscape mode? seascape? :) |
| 18:52.57 | Tupone | portait |
| 18:53.03 | Tupone | portrait |
| 18:53.10 | orchid | ah |
| 18:53.34 | Tupone | you were just kidding ? |
| 18:53.53 | Chestal | seascape is landscape roated 180 degrees I think |
| 18:53.57 | Chestal | rotated, even |
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| 19:04.01 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 19:09.05 | JeffM2501 | on windows the nvrotate part of the driver let us rotate the display as needed |
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| 20:08.55 | gsnedders | *waits for viper.pimpi.org to go back online* |
| 20:14.06 | Pimpinella | moment... |
| 20:18.02 | gsnedders | I mean port 80, httpd |
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| 20:47.21 | Inferno | hey, JeffM, I got some textures I need hosted. |
| 20:47.40 | Inferno | I'm paying $0 in US for you to host them |
| 20:47.48 | Inferno | think about it |
| 20:50.24 | Inferno | Yeh, I sent them to ya on bzbb. |
| 20:53.04 | Inferno | JeffM2501, I want to get my server up right now I need these texts hosted...you there? |
| 20:53.35 | Inferno | ~JeffM2501 |
| 20:53.36 | ibot | i heard jeffm2501 is bzbb god |
| 20:53.43 | Inferno | ~seen JeffM2501 |
| 20:53.45 | ibot | jeffm2501 is currently on #bzflag (3h 34m 28s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 1h 44m 40s, last said: 'on windows the nvrotate part of the driver let us rotate the display as needed'. |
| 20:58.04 | brlcad | Inferno: please take the conversation private or be quiet and be patient |
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| 21:00.04 | Tupone | brlcad :) |
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| 21:01.47 | Inferno | ok, sorry about that |
| 21:01.59 | Inferno | do you know of anyone else that can add textures? |
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| 21:04.51 | JeffM2501 | dude I can't have lunch? |
| 21:05.15 | Inferno | wellll, you did didn't you ;) |
| 21:05.31 | JeffM2501 | why can't you just follow the existing procedure? |
| 21:05.39 | Inferno | I PMed them |
| 21:05.52 | Inferno | isn't that how ya do it :S |
| 21:05.58 | JeffM2501 | again, why can't you just follow the existing procedure? |
| 21:06.00 | JeffM2501 | no it isn't |
| 21:06.04 | JeffM2501 | there is a thread |
| 21:06.04 | JeffM2501 | you post them |
| 21:06.06 | JeffM2501 | and you wait |
| 21:06.34 | Inferno | ok, lemme se |
| 21:06.38 | JeffM2501 | your wall image isn't the right size |
| 21:06.49 | JeffM2501 | and do you have license to use them? |
| 21:07.57 | Inferno | I MADE them! |
| 21:08.01 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:08.02 | JeffM2501 | just checking |
| 21:08.05 | JeffM2501 | chill out man |
| 21:08.12 | JeffM2501 | make them power of 2 |
| 21:08.20 | Inferno | 2^2? |
| 21:08.32 | JeffM2501 | each side must be a power of 2 |
| 21:08.32 | CBG | anything^2 |
| 21:08.39 | Inferno | oh, ok |
| 21:08.54 | Inferno | is the other text riht size? |
| 21:10.14 | Inferno | are we talkin height and width...seperate here? |
| 21:10.16 | trepan | CBG: 2^n, not n^2 |
| 21:10.28 | CBG | oh, duh |
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| 21:10.39 | CBG | ~lart CBG |
| 21:10.58 | CBG | sorry Inferno - I'm not thinking straight. |
| 21:11.42 | Inferno | np |
| 21:11.43 | JeffM2501 | if I fix it will you stop buging me? |
| 21:11.51 | Inferno | yeh |
| 21:12.02 | Inferno | I didn't think I was bugging you though :S |
| 21:12.06 | JeffM2501 | and maybe look into your add? |
| 21:12.22 | blast007 | :) |
| 21:12.32 | JeffM2501 | what is your real name? |
| 21:12.46 | Inferno | George |
| 21:12.58 | JeffM2501 | first inital last name please |
| 21:13.09 | Inferno | are you serious? |
| 21:13.15 | JeffM2501 | we host them by author |
| 21:13.18 | JeffM2501 | for copyright reasons |
| 21:13.19 | JeffM2501 | so yes |
| 21:13.28 | JeffM2501 | I'm not hosting it under "inferno" |
| 21:13.39 | Inferno | SBeaulieu then... |
| 21:14.10 | JeffM2501 | you have a license for them? |
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| 21:14.33 | Inferno | I don't understand the license stuff, sooo no |
| 21:14.43 | Inferno | oh wait...it's "634w98605256543" :P |
| 21:14.52 | JeffM2501 | do you want these hosted or not? |
| 21:14.59 | Inferno | sry |
| 21:15.07 | JeffM2501 | I'll do it later when I get home |
| 21:15.12 | Inferno | do I need a licence? |
| 21:15.16 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:15.21 | JeffM2501 | it's your art |
| 21:15.23 | JeffM2501 | it's up to you |
| 21:15.31 | Inferno | ok, no licence then |
| 21:15.43 | JeffM2501 | tho I'm curous why you would name it "dirt3_860" |
| 21:16.11 | Inferno | dirt3..it's a texture and it's dirt and it's my 3rd modification |
| 21:16.21 | JeffM2501 | and 860? |
| 21:17.04 | Inferno | I didn't add that :S |
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| 21:17.19 | JeffM2501 | ahh so you didn't |
| 21:17.54 | Inferno | exactly |
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| 21:19.05 | Inferno | is that all you need to know? |
| 21:19.20 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:19.58 | Inferno | cool! How do I know what the address to the pics is (is this something I'm magicly suposed to know/look up)? |
| 21:20.28 | JeffM2501 | well, if you had done it via the normal method there would have been a post by me with the URL |
| 21:21.11 | Inferno | I JUST found the forum for submission |
| 21:21.26 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 21:21.48 | Inferno | http://images.bzflag.org/sbeaulieu/ is empty... |
| 21:21.53 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 21:22.20 | Inferno | is ther something I need to do, or just wait? |
| 21:22.44 | JeffM2501 | when did I say I'd do it? |
| 21:23.12 | Inferno | ok...sry |
| 21:23.22 | Inferno | good ride home! |
| 21:23.24 | JeffM2501 | really man |
| 21:23.26 | JeffM2501 | ride home? |
| 21:23.29 | JeffM2501 | I drive |
| 21:23.38 | JeffM2501 | and I go home in like 5 hours |
| 21:23.39 | Inferno | Good drive home! |
| 21:23.46 | Inferno | OH :( |
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| 21:24.49 | JeffM2501 | why would that help? |
| 21:24.54 | JeffM2501 | all he has to do is act normal |
| 21:24.56 | JeffM2501 | and calm down |
| 21:25.01 | CBG | I didn't say it work JeffM2501. |
| 21:25.09 | CBG | would* |
| 21:25.38 | JeffM2501 | Inferno, it's done, now please just calm the heck down. it's just textures for a game man. |
| 21:26.03 | JeffM2501 | and if you have to do this again, please look at the forums and use the established method |
| 21:26.08 | Inferno | I will |
| 21:26.13 | JeffM2501 | and know that it may take a little time |
| 21:26.19 | Inferno | ok |
| 21:26.22 | JeffM2501 | we don't just sit here waiting for you to post images |
| 21:26.34 | JeffM2501 | having them posted is a privilage not a right |
| 21:26.44 | wizatcomputer | just out of curiosity, what are the images hosted on? |
| 21:26.49 | JeffM2501 | fourm |
| 21:26.50 | Inferno | ok, well thanks alot man! |
| 21:26.52 | JeffM2501 | just a dir |
| 21:27.06 | wizatcomputer | alright |
| 21:27.11 | JeffM2501 | they will move to the new froum host when it moves too |
| 21:27.14 | JeffM2501 | so they'll be faster |
| 21:27.20 | wizatcomputer | good :) |
| 21:27.55 | JeffM2501 | it's one reason it's going to move, since that web space is used for so much more now |
| 21:47.13 | *** part/#bzflag a_temp_dist (n=grondin@mn-69-34-50-242.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 21:57.22 | *** part/#bzflag semmel (n=spreker@ip51cfa1ef.direct-adsl.nl) |
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| 22:17.18 | bryjen | hmm, more shadowed members... |
| 22:17.27 | JeffM2501 | where? |
| 22:17.41 | JeffM2501 | did I 'tard up again? |
| 22:18.14 | purple_cow | oh no, please tell me it isn't catching |
| 22:18.32 | JeffM2501 | I think I may need vaxination |
| 22:18.36 | bryjen | playerID in bzfsAPI.h step on alotta stuff, as it's included evawhere |
| 22:18.41 | JeffM2501 | vodka works fo that right? |
| 22:18.54 | JeffM2501 | oh I can't use playerID? |
| 22:19.01 | JeffM2501 | where else is it used? |
| 22:19.07 | DTRemenak | ...everywhere... ;) |
| 22:19.17 | JeffM2501 | in a global scope? |
| 22:19.19 | bryjen | It's just a warning.... |
| 22:19.40 | bryjen | it's a member variable in some classes |
| 22:19.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:19.50 | JeffM2501 | so it shoudl stay in those classes |
| 22:19.54 | JeffM2501 | one would think |
| 22:20.52 | JeffM2501 | ahh I see it |
| 22:20.53 | JeffM2501 | got it |
| 22:20.59 | bryjen | gcc complaining about could be possibly potentialy ambigous naming |
| 22:21.11 | bryjen | ~spell ambigous |
| 22:21.19 | bryjen | uu |
| 22:21.24 | JeffM2501 | I used it as a param in the smae class |
| 22:21.29 | JeffM2501 | for a stubbed method |
| 22:22.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: no ambiguous variable names here |
| 22:22.57 | JeffM2501 | that shouod take care of bz_ServerSidePlayerHandler |
| 22:24.05 | DTRemenak | size_t != int sure generates a lot of junk. |
| 22:24.19 | JeffM2501 | it does indeed |
| 22:24.39 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, have the vc8 projects in dev been working? |
| 22:24.48 | DTRemenak | not like I'm planning on having more than 2 billion members in a vector anyway :) |
| 22:25.00 | JeffM2501 | I am adding new files to them by copying and pasting from the VC 7.1 ones :0 |
| 22:25.01 | bryjen | like "comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions" ? |
| 22:25.04 | DTRemenak | yeah, I've been using them |
| 22:25.12 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 22:25.15 | JeffM2501 | then it worked |
| 22:25.20 | DTRemenak | bryjen: no, size_t is long long now |
| 22:25.30 | JeffM2501 | big faty long |
| 22:25.31 | DTRemenak | so when you say int = something.size() |
| 22:25.37 | DTRemenak | you have a possible loss of data |
| 22:26.00 | JeffM2501 | you can't even do int < something.size() |
| 22:26.05 | JeffM2501 | that'll give you signed unsinged |
| 22:26.12 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 22:26.17 | JeffM2501 | lots of casting to the int |
| 22:26.45 | DTRemenak | hmm....could override the stl method with a mandatory cast to int. that would confuse people nicely :) |
| 22:28.15 | JeffM2501 | how horible |
| 22:28.25 | JeffM2501 | for those cases when you WANT the unsigned ;) |
| 22:28.53 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 22:29.34 | JeffM2501 | ok so we change tank death to make your little dude get out of the tank before death. then you have to run around and not get sqished for 10 seconds |
| 22:29.39 | JeffM2501 | if you make it, you can respawn |
| 22:29.46 | JeffM2501 | if you don't the server deltes your global account |
| 22:29.52 | DTRemenak | ooh, fun |
| 22:30.19 | bryjen | strlen(text)>=CallSignLen and EmailLen and TokenLen and VersionLen |
| 22:30.19 | bryjen | in game/PlayerInfo.cxx |
| 22:30.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah we do that crap EVERYWHERE |
| 22:30.47 | DTRemenak | warning C4267: 'initializing' : conversion from 'size_t' to 'const int', possible loss of data |
| 22:31.05 | JeffM2501 | size is unsigned |
| 22:31.13 | Tupone | where? |
| 22:31.19 | JeffM2501 | everywhere |
| 22:31.23 | JeffM2501 | it's an unsigned long long |
| 22:31.30 | JeffM2501 | on windows at least |
| 22:31.34 | Tupone | even in a 64 bit machine? |
| 22:31.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:31.44 | DTRemenak | vc8 changed to 64-bit int sizes :( |
| 22:31.54 | JeffM2501 | and actualy checks for when you use them wrong now |
| 22:31.56 | DTRemenak | mucho casting coming up |
| 22:32.19 | JeffM2501 | it's allways been at least an unsigned long IIRC, VC just didn't warn by default till 7 |
| 22:32.28 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 22:32.42 | DTRemenak | pointers are also long long now |
| 22:32.55 | DTRemenak | so pointer arithmetic needs to be casted too |
| 22:32.55 | JeffM2501 | not that we shoudl be doing pointer math |
| 22:33.02 | DTRemenak | why not? it's fun :) |
| 22:33.10 | bryjen | gcc apparently also doesn't like you "declaring" i repeatedly in for's |
| 22:33.12 | JeffM2501 | and rewarding |
| 22:33.29 | DTRemenak | bryjen: we should not be doing that :) |
| 22:33.51 | JeffM2501 | vc changed that with 7 as well |
| 22:34.02 | JeffM2501 | I recall we had to make them external in 6 |
| 22:34.07 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 22:34.07 | JeffM2501 | but didn't in 7 |
| 22:34.14 | JeffM2501 | what's the c++ standard say? |
| 22:34.15 | bryjen | bzfsMessages.cxx around line 342 |
| 22:34.24 | bryjen | s/around/starting at/ |
| 22:34.45 | DTRemenak | 7 adds an additional nesting layer, so gcc-like code and vc6-like code both work in it |
| 22:35.05 | DTRemenak | it's still possible to write code that breaks gcc in vc7 |
| 22:35.34 | Tupone | for size -> vector::size() is of type vector::size_type, that is the only thing you can say I guess |
| 22:35.38 | bryjen | for(int i=0; i < foo; i++) { for(int i=0; i < bar; i++) } |
| 22:35.39 | JeffM2501 | the C++ standard says that vars defined in the for part of the loop go out of scope after the for |
| 22:35.42 | JeffM2501 | so I'd not change it |
| 22:35.47 | JeffM2501 | as it's a GCC bug |
| 22:36.05 | DTRemenak | ah, bryjen's situation is a shadowing warning |
| 22:36.10 | DTRemenak | or should be |
| 22:36.24 | bryjen | yes, "shadows a previous local" |
| 22:36.32 | DTRemenak | using the same variable name in an inner and outer loop is PROBABLY a real bug too ;) |
| 22:36.35 | JeffM2501 | it's gone out of scope |
| 22:36.43 | DTRemenak | want to check that loop contents carefully |
| 22:36.44 | JeffM2501 | I did that? where/ |
| 22:37.03 | DTRemenak | <bryjen> bzfsMessages.cxx around line 342 |
| 22:37.06 | bryjen | actually 2 fors inside one other |
| 22:37.16 | bryjen | all using i |
| 22:37.33 | DTRemenak | which means that any reference to i inside the inner loop may or may not be broken |
| 22:44.23 | *** join/#bzflag smallfoot- (i=amy@c-cb5b70d5.041-5-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:44.26 | smallfoot- | hi dude!!!! |
| 22:44.31 | smallfoot- | when will u ever make new version!!! |
| 22:46.26 | Tupone | everyday and destroy everynite |
| 22:46.45 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 22:47.07 | wizatcomputer | smallfoot-: you can make your own whenever you want :) |
| 22:47.28 | smallfoot- | im a noob |
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| 22:47.32 | smallfoot- | i cant make shit |
| 22:47.36 | smallfoot- | plz make a new version |
| 22:48.07 | smallfoot- | that page in topic has nightly rpm builds |
| 22:48.12 | smallfoot- | but dude i want win32 build nightly plz |
| 22:48.16 | purple_cow | smallfoot-: watch the language |
| 22:48.21 | TD-Linux | smallfoot-: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6661 |
| 22:48.40 | TD-Linux | that should be plenty recent |
| 22:49.02 | DTRemenak | heh, nightly. half the nights it's broken :) |
| 22:49.04 | BzFire | smallfoot-: i have a win32 build of the current cvs but its useless because there is a protocol break . so there are no players and only 1 server |
| 22:49.19 | wizatcomputer | bzflag-2.0.5b5.exe 18-Jan-2006 15:49 9.1M |
| 22:49.22 | wizatcomputer | seems recent enough |
| 22:49.38 | wizatcomputer | BzFire: you need to get 2.0.x |
| 22:49.40 | wizatcomputer | not 2.1.x |
| 22:49.43 | smallfoot- | purple_cow, i didnt say bad word |
| 22:50.03 | wizatcomputer | starts with s, ends in hit |
| 22:50.28 | smallfoot- | its old |
| 22:50.47 | DTRemenak | it's less than a month old. what do you expect? |
| 22:51.11 | smallfoot- | cant it be version from today? |
| 22:51.13 | BzFire | wizatcomputer: yes i know that |
| 22:51.14 | smallfoot- | and when is official version come? |
| 22:51.41 | TD-Linux | really, 2.0 dosen't change often enough to make nightly updates worthwhile |
| 22:51.49 | DTRemenak | most days nothing changes. we don't have an automated build system and most of us would rather spend time on something else. |
| 22:51.55 | DTRemenak | 2.0.6 will be released when it is ready. |
| 22:52.25 | TD-Linux | I could build one for you, but VC8 broke and I haven't fixed it yet :( |
| 22:52.51 | DTRemenak | 'tain't broke |
| 22:53.01 | DTRemenak | unless your copy is what you mean |
| 22:53.02 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 22:53.18 | smallfoot- | so 2.0.5 is beta, 2.0.7 is beta, 2.0.9 is beta? |
| 22:53.32 | smallfoot- | and 2.0.2, 2.0.4, 2.0.6, 2.0.8 is stable? |
| 22:53.34 | smallfoot- | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 22:54.13 | smallfoot- | what is new in 2.0.5 ? |
| 22:54.35 | wizatcomputer | some graphics improvements, bug fixes, etc |
| 22:54.49 | TD-Linux | smallfoot-: there is also often a suffix on a beta build, that increments each time a build is released |
| 22:54.50 | wizatcomputer | the server has some more flag commands |
| 22:54.54 | TD-Linux | b1, b2, b3 etc |
| 22:55.03 | DTRemenak | smallfoot-: http://cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/ChangeLog?rev=2.103.2.7&only_with_tag=v2_0branch&view=markup |
| 22:55.19 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 22:55.27 | smallfoot- | is the graphics improvements good? |
| 22:55.35 | wizatcomputer | eye candy, mainly |
| 22:55.37 | wizatcomputer | AFAIK |
| 22:56.20 | DTRemenak | my personal favorite addition in 2.0.5 is server list searching, but you can get that from any old 2.0.5. I think it was in the b1 build. |
| 22:56.33 | DTRemenak | active dev now is on 2.1.x |
| 22:57.02 | smallfoot- | is possible download a .zip file with latest win32 build? |
| 22:57.12 | wizatcomputer | if someone was to make it, yes |
| 22:57.12 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 22:57.28 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 22:57.29 | smallfoot- | :( |
| 22:57.37 | smallfoot- | is any roadmap for bzflag? |
| 22:57.52 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 22:57.57 | smallfoot- | any estimate for 2.0.6 official release? 1 month? 2 month? 3 month? 6 month? 9 month? 1 year? |
| 22:58.00 | smallfoot- | damn |
| 22:58.05 | DTRemenak | you seem to mistake this for an organized operation :) |
| 22:58.05 | wizatcomputer | smallfoot-: when it's done |
| 22:58.19 | DTRemenak | we work on it when we feel like it. every single one of us is a volunteer. |
| 22:58.32 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 22:58.33 | DTRemenak | we work on what we think needs to be done at the moment. |
| 22:58.45 | DTRemenak | there's no schedule and certainly no "plan" |
| 22:59.00 | DTRemenak | although perhaps there ought to be |
| 22:59.01 | bryjen | not dis-organized.... asynchronous! ;) |
| 22:59.25 | bryjen | ~spell asynchronous |
| 22:59.51 | DTRemenak | when someone thinks it's time to release, he tries to convince the others. if he succeeds, there's a release. if he doesn't, there isn't. |
| 23:00.12 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 23:06.11 | bryjen | piñata management style |
| 23:11.04 | bryjen | hehe |
| 23:11.20 | DTRemenak | ooh, look what I found: ~ ! |
| 23:13.40 | *** part/#bzflag bryjen (n=bryjen@63.147.94.149) |
| 23:14.37 | DTRemenak | hmph, he waves a tilde at me and leaves |
| 23:14.41 | DTRemenak | talk about hit and run |
| 23:14.58 | CBG | rofl |
| 23:15.12 | TD-Linux | I have two |
| 23:15.13 | CBG | man, I don't believe how much that cheered me up... o.O |
| 23:15.13 | TD-Linux | ≈ |
| 23:15.27 | TD-Linux | ha, three |
| 23:15.28 | CBG | is that what it's called? ~ = a tilde? |
| 23:15.28 | TD-Linux | ≋ |
| 23:15.54 | TD-Linux | and a big one: |
| 23:15.54 | TD-Linux | ≀ |
| 23:15.55 | CBG | I have a chain of them... ~~~~~~~~ eh. |
| 23:16.28 | TD-Linux | I have more |
| 23:16.34 | TD-Linux | ~x∞ |
| 23:16.51 | CBG | bah. cheater. |
| 23:17.05 | CBG | ~x2∞ ..? :P |
| 23:17.07 | TD-Linux | wow, unicode art is fun ⋰⋱⋰⋱ |
| 23:17.42 | TD-Linux | ⊙.⊙ |
| 23:18.05 | TD-Linux | those are my favorite eyes ^^^^^^ |
| 23:18.26 | TD-Linux | sleepy eyes: ⊖.⊖ |
| 23:19.22 | CBG | I can only do so many different characters. |
| 23:20.09 | TD-Linux | K Menu>Acessories>KCharSelect |
| 23:20.28 | TD-Linux | but you need kde for that :) |
| 23:20.56 | CBG | apporx 46x4 |
| 23:20.56 | CBG | approx* |
| 23:21.01 | CBG | Pff... |
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| 23:21.05 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 23:21.17 | DTRemenak | bah, you don't need kde. ♫ |
| 23:21.21 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, you do that again, and I'll ban ya for a week |
| 23:21.33 | CBG | Or Edit>Special Characters... in Colloquy. ;) |
| 23:21.42 | JeffM2501 | it makes baby xchat crash |
| 23:21.48 | DTRemenak | hah |
| 23:21.52 | DTRemenak | sucker :P |
| 23:21.58 | CBG | heh |
| 23:22.13 | TD-Linux | I'm using xchat to send them |
| 23:22.16 | JeffM2501 | this isn't the place for "unicode art" and you know it ;) |
| 23:22.18 | JeffM2501 | still |
| 23:22.23 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 23:22.23 | JeffM2501 | take that crap to your own channel |
| 23:22.41 | CBG | TD-Linux: #baby-chatter |
| 23:22.56 | CBG | (seriously ;) ) |
| 23:23.05 | TD-Linux | wow, I'm using an old version of xchat... that could be why |
| 23:23.11 | JeffM2501 | whatever |
| 23:23.12 | JeffM2501 | I don't care |
| 23:23.15 | JBdiGriz | JeffM2501: We've sent unicode here for years, what's wrong with your client? |
| 23:23.21 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 23:23.26 | JeffM2501 | when I selected it it pooped |
| 23:23.40 | JeffM2501 | it was showing as huge lists of whitespace |
| 23:23.51 | JeffM2501 | and the uni that you all send is like short |
| 23:23.55 | DTRemenak | sweet |
| 23:25.09 | JBdiGriz | I'm using xchat-aqua, and it's all good. |
| 23:25.45 | TD-Linux | hmm |
| 23:25.46 | TD-Linux | Linux 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3 [i686/599.59MHz] |
| 23:25.46 | TD-Linux | Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango |
| 23:25.46 | TD-Linux | Compiled: Sep 20 2004 |
| 23:25.49 | JeffM2501 | even if it didn't crash, this isn't the palce for text art |
| 23:26.55 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (10 files): casting fun with microsoft's newest. vc8 has unsigned 64-bit long size_t and spits out warnings when assigning int = container.size() |
| 23:26.55 | JBdiGriz | You should still get a client which doesn't crash. Occasionally it's useful capability. |
| 23:27.01 | DTRemenak | 600mhz? bit behind the times eh? |
| 23:27.47 | JeffM2501 | it's a recent version |
| 23:27.50 | JeffM2501 | from november |
| 23:28.32 | TD-Linux | DTRemenak: did that just fix some problems that caused errors in winnt.h? |
| 23:28.33 | DTRemenak | november...that's like five months ago :) |
| 23:28.44 | DTRemenak | TD-Linux: I have no errors in winnt.h |
| 23:28.47 | JeffM2501 | it's worked before |
| 23:28.49 | DTRemenak | just fixing warnings |
| 23:28.51 | TD-Linux | oh... that's my problem then |
| 23:28.53 | JeffM2501 | but I rarely have to select it |
| 23:29.03 | JeffM2501 | and the usefull feature of it dosn't invlove "art" |
| 23:29.29 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:29.31 | TD-Linux | oh... duh, fixed my problem |
| 23:29.36 | DTRemenak | are you saying art is useless? :) |
| 23:29.38 | TD-Linux | had to do with directory order |
| 23:29.49 | TD-Linux | make sure PSDK is over DirectX :) |
| 23:31.24 | JeffM2501 | that is why using the real version of the compiler is better :) it installs things for you |
| 23:32.23 | blast007 | your just as likely to get the order wrong in the full program as you are with manually modifying the files in express |
| 23:33.09 | JeffM2501 | the full install, puts the SDK and direct X in for you, in the right order |
| 23:33.25 | JeffM2501 | actualy the DX is merged in |
| 23:33.39 | JeffM2501 | so it's a lot harder to mess up |
| 23:46.57 | TD-Linux | in 2.0branch, VC8 bzflag.sln shows up as an unrecognized version in Explorer |
| 23:53.01 | TD-Linux | odd... my 2.0 bzflag still exits on successful server join |
| 23:53.26 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, so you wana implement my squishy death idea? :) |
| 23:53.44 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: I think I'll pass on that one ;) |
| 23:53.50 | JeffM2501 | aww |
| 23:53.58 | JeffM2501 | permadeath would be great |
| 23:54.08 | JeffM2501 | would make people REALY try not to get shot |
| 23:54.37 | TD-Linux | squishy death? |
| 23:54.53 | JeffM2501 | when you die, it shows you geting out of the tank, |
| 23:54.55 | smallfoot- | please make new version bzflag!! |
| 23:55.03 | JeffM2501 | and you have to run around and not be sqished |
| 23:55.08 | JeffM2501 | for 10 seconds |
| 23:55.10 | JeffM2501 | if you don't |
| 23:55.14 | JeffM2501 | then your global account is deleted |
| 23:55.19 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, huh? |
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| 23:55.39 | smallfoot- | i want new version come |
| 23:55.43 | smallfoot- | with new graphics |
| 23:55.44 | smallfoot- | and stuff |
| 23:55.46 | smallfoot- | new cool |
| 23:55.49 | JeffM2501 | again huh? |
| 23:55.57 | smallfoot- | :( |
| 23:55.59 | JeffM2501 | what version are you on? |
| 23:56.00 | TD-Linux | smallfoot-: the devs are working on it, ok? |
| 23:56.09 | DTRemenak | smallfoot-: you have two options: 1. help. 2. wait. |
| 23:56.18 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 23:56.21 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, I don't understand what he's saying, so do you know we are working on it? |
| 23:56.37 | JeffM2501 | even for 2.2 I know of no major graphics changes |
| 23:56.39 | TD-Linux | well, it just sounded like he wanted a better BZFlag |
| 23:56.58 | JeffM2501 | oh I think he wants something difrent then that |
| 23:57.04 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: he wants a newer release of bzflag. not quite sure what he's on though. |
| 23:57.10 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:57.11 | TD-Linux | I really hope trepan commits that cubemapping stuff |
| 23:57.15 | JeffM2501 | I got the newer part |
| 23:57.22 | JeffM2501 | but what he expects in it,....... |
| 23:57.36 | TD-Linux | should I pastebin a debug log? |
| 23:57.37 | JeffM2501 | there will be a 2.0.6 at some point, with treapans changes |
| 23:57.41 | TD-Linux | for my 2.0 crash |
| 23:57.51 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, why not just debug it |
| 23:57.57 | JeffM2501 | and see where it's crashing |
| 23:57.59 | JeffM2501 | use the brain |
| 23:58.26 | TD-Linux | it's not being that easy on me.... |
| 23:58.38 | DTRemenak | 'cause for some of these I'm tempted to switch from int to size_t instead of casting if it's supported all over |
| 23:58.58 | JeffM2501 | size_t is part of the standard IIRC |
| 23:59.14 | TD-Linux | http://pastebin.ca/41082 |
| 23:59.57 | DTRemenak | ah, it's in sys/types.h by standard |