| 00:00.15 | arsenic | 1.0.7174 |
| 00:00.44 | orchid | and bzflag Version: 2.0.2.2? |
| 00:00.49 | orchid | from stable? |
| 00:00.52 | arsenic | 2.0.4 |
| 00:00.59 | arsenic | and 2.0.2 |
| 00:01.04 | arsenic | i tried them both |
| 00:01.14 | arsenic | i even compiled the 2.04 |
| 00:01.23 | orchid | tried with -window? |
| 00:01.45 | arsenic | also freezes the system |
| 00:01.50 | arsenic | :( |
| 00:02.05 | orchid | ugh |
| 00:02.09 | arsenic | exactly when beginning playing |
| 00:03.23 | arsenic | also when I'm playng on 16 bit, 800x600 |
| 00:05.09 | orchid | perhaps bzflag -d -d -d -echo >> ~/tank.txt maybe and then look at that file |
| 00:05.43 | arsenic | ok, i'll do it, and then put the message here:) |
| 00:05.50 | orchid | also glxgears work? other gl games work fine? |
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| 00:12.52 | arsenic | nothing that looks like an error here in tank.txt |
| 00:13.10 | arsenic | Image not found or unloadable: smoke |
| 00:13.19 | arsenic | this is the worse one:) |
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| 00:13.45 | Cruel_dog | hi |
| 00:13.57 | Cruel_dog | How do i get bzflag to compile with M$ Vc++? What file do I load and where is it? |
| 00:14.17 | orchid | ah, hmm, I'm outta ideas, arsenic, come back from time to time, someone will know though |
| 00:14.33 | arsenic | ok, thanx |
| 00:15.01 | Cruel_dog | How do i get bzflag to compile with M$ Vc++? What file do I load and where is it? |
| 00:15.04 | arsenic | one more question, are u 100 % sure that the video card it's ok for playing such game? |
| 00:15.22 | arsenic | or at least 75%?:D |
| 00:15.39 | orchid | well it might be a bit underpowered |
| 00:15.57 | orchid | but it shouldn't freeze the game |
| 00:16.04 | orchid | is X locking up? |
| 00:16.14 | arsenic | yes |
| 00:16.21 | orchid | eww |
| 00:16.30 | arsenic | i mean i have to dhut down the computer |
| 00:16.46 | orchid | reboot? |
| 00:16.50 | arsenic | from the buton |
| 00:16.52 | arsenic | yeap |
| 00:17.07 | orchid | you cant ctrl-alt-f2? |
| 00:17.19 | arsenic | keyboard and mouse blocked |
| 00:17.29 | arsenic | nothing with that |
| 00:17.33 | orchid | wow |
| 00:18.20 | orchid | does glxgears run? |
| 00:18.30 | arsenic | i have them installed |
| 00:18.47 | arsenic | ppracer it's running without problems |
| 00:19.07 | orchid | ok |
| 00:19.13 | arsenic | how can I see if glxgears is running or not? |
| 00:19.26 | arsenic | I have them activated in XF86Config |
| 00:19.53 | orchid | just type glxgears, but if ppracer works then your drivers are ok |
| 00:20.08 | arsenic | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.15 | arsenic | aha |
| 00:20.58 | Cruel_dog | Can someone please help me? |
| 00:20.59 | orchid | also, try moving ~/.bzf out of the way |
| 00:22.19 | arsenic | wow, for 10 seconds the cursor was crazy a little bit while running glxgears, but now it's ok again |
| 00:22.41 | arsenic | 13691 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2738.200 FPS |
| 00:23.24 | arsenic | can u tell me what are like your numbers when u are runnig glxgears, just to compare them |
| 00:24.02 | orchid | 67024 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13404.636 FPS |
| 00:24.06 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:24.14 | arsenic | :) |
| 00:24.16 | orchid | but I have a pretty new card |
| 00:24.29 | arsenic | aha |
| 00:25.09 | arsenic | ah, i forgot to tell, I tried a Geforce 440MX and it worked , also with 64 Mb |
| 00:25.14 | orchid | Cruel_dog: you gotta wait for the windows people |
| 00:25.27 | orchid | the game worked? |
| 00:25.33 | arsenic | so, it;s like the video card, uh? |
| 00:25.35 | arsenic | yeap |
| 00:25.47 | orchid | yeah, well if it worked with the other card |
| 00:26.08 | orchid | put the other card back and we're done |
| 00:26.29 | eXtreme | test |
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| 00:26.37 | arsenic | but ppracer it's working, it bzflag so more...badly?:D |
| 00:26.41 | Gnurdux | does two +f good's do anything different that one? |
| 00:26.48 | arsenic | it's not mine, hte one i tried it |
| 00:28.47 | Gnurdux | ? |
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| 00:31.00 | Gnurdux | does two +f good's do anything different that one? |
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| 00:31.02 | Cruel_dog | How do i get bzflag to compile with M$ Vc++? What file do I load and where is it? |
| 00:31.02 | Gnurdux | anyone here? |
| 00:31.02 | Cruel_dog | me |
| 00:31.04 | Gnurdux | anyone here who knows anything? |
| 00:31.04 | Gnurdux | everyone seems to have been idle for a hwile |
| 00:31.04 | Cruel_dog | lol |
| 00:31.04 | Gnurdux | brad2901, ? |
| 00:31.04 | Gnurdux | brlcad, |
| 00:31.04 | Gnurdux | thnx |
| 00:31.04 | Gnurdux | help us! |
| 00:31.43 | brlcad | two rights make a left? |
| 00:31.43 | Cruel_dog | How do i get bzflag to compile with M$ Vc++? What file do I load and where is it? |
| 00:31.43 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 00:31.43 | Gnurdux | but do they make double right? |
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| 00:31.44 | brlcad | Cruel_dog: there's a studio project, hunt for it |
| 00:32.53 | Gnurdux | cause im hosting a server and there conf says: #enable flags |
| 00:32.53 | Gnurdux | +f good |
| 00:32.53 | Cruel_dog | i have it |
| 00:32.54 | brlcad | Gnurdux: two good's make double good |
| 00:32.54 | Guu` | Gnurdux: Hoookkkkaaayyy!!?!?! |
| 00:32.54 | Guu` | Gnurdux: this is IRC not a retard convention. |
| 00:32.54 | Cruel_dog | i have it |
| 00:32.54 | Cruel_dog | but |
| 00:32.54 | Cruel_dog | which file do i open, and where is it? |
| 00:32.54 | Gnurdux | they make twice as many good flags? |
| 00:32.54 | brlcad | two of every good flag |
| 00:32.54 | Gnurdux | ah ok |
| 00:32.54 | brlcad | you an add the amount directly iirc too |
| 00:32.54 | Gnurdux | and if you have twice do you need to double the -'s as well? |
| 00:32.54 | brlcad | +f good{59} or somesuch |
| 00:32.55 | Guu` | brlcad: WTF mate? |
| 00:32.55 | brlcad | Guu`: set prefixchar ! |
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| 00:35.00 | Cruel_dog | its compilating |
| 00:35.09 | Cruel_dog | but sais a bunch of fatal errors |
| 00:35.34 | Cruel_dog | cannot open include file windows.h |
| 00:35.50 | Cruel_dog | no such file or directory |
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| 00:49.36 | Cruel_dog | How do i get bzflag to compile with M$ Vc++? What file do I load and where is it? |
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| 01:17.11 | Gnurdux | how does -f work? |
| 01:17.20 | Gnurdux | cause #enable flags |
| 01:17.20 | Gnurdux | +f good |
| 01:17.20 | Gnurdux | #remove unwanted flags |
| 01:17.20 | Gnurdux | -f bu |
| 01:17.20 | Gnurdux | -f oo |
| 01:17.21 | Guu` | Gnurdux: WTF mate? |
| 01:17.23 | Guu` | Gnurdux: Guu des whakaremasen! |
| 01:17.24 | Gnurdux | -f pz |
| 01:17.36 | Gnurdux | that still has those flags |
| 01:18.09 | brlcad | what don't you understand? - removes, + adds |
| 01:18.18 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 01:18.19 | brlcad | think of it like a big bucket of flags |
| 01:18.21 | Gnurdux | but its not working |
| 01:18.34 | Gnurdux | that doesnt remove those flags |
| 01:18.42 | Gnurdux | maybe i should just add all other flags twice? |
| 01:18.50 | brlcad | you added two good |
| 01:18.55 | brlcad | so you'd need to remove two of the bad |
| 01:18.59 | Gnurdux | no |
| 01:19.05 | Gnurdux | but im removing burror |
| 01:19.10 | brlcad | 1 burrow |
| 01:19.12 | Gnurdux | but burrow is still there |
| 01:19.20 | Gnurdux | actually i had too of those |
| 01:19.25 | Gnurdux | but i didnt wanna flood |
| 01:19.31 | Gnurdux | but there are 2 burrows |
| 01:19.48 | brlcad | "bu" isn't the right syntax fwiw iirc |
| 01:19.58 | brlcad | case matters last I checked |
| 01:20.16 | Gnurdux | AH |
| 01:20.20 | Gnurdux | BU then |
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| 01:27.55 | Shadow | hi |
| 01:30.35 | Shadow | hello? |
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| 01:31.19 | Shadow | hi |
| 01:31.28 | Gnurdux | i dunno thats why i had you come here |
| 01:31.31 | Gnurdux | ask them :) |
| 01:31.39 | Shadow | they arent home |
| 01:31.46 | Shadow | theyre dead |
| 01:31.53 | Gnurdux | most of em are yp |
| 01:31.57 | Gnurdux | yup |
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| 01:34.53 | Thumper_ | trepan: ping |
| 01:37.41 | SportChick | learner: wow |
| 01:38.28 | brlcad | world of warcraft? |
| 01:39.23 | brlcad | with our widgets? |
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| 02:14.52 | Thumper_ | brlcad: ping |
| 02:38.34 | blast007 | <@brlcad> +f good{59} or somesuch |
| 02:38.42 | blast007 | that would add 59 of every flag :/ |
| 02:38.47 | blast007 | every good flag* |
| 02:38.59 | blast007 | and would likely make it impossible to join the server |
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| 03:18.39 | spldart | Can anyone send me a windows compile of bzadmin for protocol 0035? |
| 03:18.43 | spldart | Pweeese |
| 03:21.49 | JeffM2501 | the dev one? |
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| 03:24.46 | spldart | yeah |
| 03:25.02 | JeffM2501 | how old is your code? |
| 03:25.03 | spldart | I can't do windows builds yet... |
| 03:25.17 | spldart | I just got the stuff off cvs today |
| 03:25.22 | JeffM2501 | what time? |
| 03:25.26 | spldart | oh..... |
| 03:25.26 | spldart | lunch |
| 03:25.32 | spldart | central |
| 03:25.38 | JeffM2501 | then it's probably busted |
| 03:25.39 | spldart | is it new again? |
| 03:25.45 | spldart | oh... hehe |
| 03:25.59 | spldart | That would explain some odd messages during the build in windows |
| 03:26.06 | JeffM2501 | it'll build |
| 03:26.11 | JeffM2501 | just probalby won't run right |
| 03:26.19 | JeffM2501 | not with more then one player |
| 03:26.37 | spldart | well.... got bzfs up and running and it shows up with bryjen's using 0035 |
| 03:26.54 | spldart | but ok... If I should wait a bit for a fix before messing with it further I will ;) |
| 03:26.56 | JeffM2501 | it'll show, and you can even join |
| 03:27.09 | JeffM2501 | but if you have more then one player, the message updates won't be right |
| 03:27.24 | JeffM2501 | they will read the timestamp as the ID and vice versa |
| 03:27.30 | JeffM2501 | the fix is done |
| 03:27.36 | JeffM2501 | it's been busted for a couple days |
| 03:27.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * 10bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp: Fix check for /REPORT |
| 03:28.39 | JeffM2501 | what errors did you have when you compile? |
| 03:29.43 | spldart | I can run it again to give you the errors if you want.... :)... |
| 03:30.07 | JeffM2501 | do you remeber what one was? |
| 03:30.14 | JeffM2501 | or even a guess |
| 03:30.16 | spldart | not off the top of my head :( |
| 03:31.56 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/tmp/bzadmin35.zip |
| 03:31.59 | spldart | all recursive error 1 |
| 03:33.55 | spldart | thanks... that bzadmin does connect |
| 03:34.10 | JeffM2501 | use at your own risk |
| 03:35.29 | spldart | hehe |
| 03:35.50 | spldart | So... is the code fixed or still in the process of being fixed? |
| 03:36.05 | JeffM2501 | the update bug was fixed about 2ish probalby |
| 03:37.46 | spldart | update? |
| 03:38.05 | spldart | I did noticed cvs was down all morning but that's not what your refering too is it? |
| 03:38.33 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 03:38.34 | spldart | well... cvs bzflag anyway.... others cvs projects were working |
| 03:38.43 | JeffM2501 | update is the message that tanks send out when they move |
| 03:38.49 | JeffM2501 | MsgPlayerUpdate |
| 03:38.50 | spldart | thought so... I'll go after some new code just in case :) |
| 03:39.08 | JeffM2501 | I changed the order of it |
| 03:39.12 | JeffM2501 | when I bumped to 35 |
| 03:39.20 | JeffM2501 | but I missed a part in the client |
| 03:41.32 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: so it's ./configure --enable-shared in v2_0branch and ./configure --enable-plugins in HEAD ? |
| 03:41.40 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 03:41.45 | Thumper_ | fair enough |
| 03:41.47 | JeffM2501 | I didn't do the makefiles |
| 03:42.07 | Thumper_ | --enable-plugins works in HEAD only |
| 03:42.15 | JeffM2501 | there has been much combat between the 2 makefile archechts on how to do it, it may be difrent |
| 03:42.19 | spldart | OT question... when booting a linux machine that has a disconnected LAN cable is there a way to get it to ignore trying to negotiate a network during boot process... speed things up... |
| 03:42.37 | Thumper_ | don't print the interface up at boot time |
| 03:42.49 | Thumper_ | let ifplugd do it for you |
| 03:43.02 | Thumper_ | I use that on my laptop -works great |
| 03:43.34 | Thumper_ | s/print/bring/ bah it's late |
| 03:44.50 | spldart | hrmm.... |
| 03:45.14 | Thumper_ | spldart: what distro? |
| 03:45.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp: Don't use strncasecmp - not available on windows |
| 03:45.22 | spldart | debian |
| 03:45.30 | Thumper_ | same here. |
| 03:45.30 | spldart | sarge stable |
| 03:45.49 | Thumper_ | just remove the 'auto eth0' in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:45.54 | Thumper_ | and install ifplugd for eth0 |
| 03:46.04 | spldart | oki doki :) |
| 03:46.26 | Thumper_ | it'll bring the interface up and down when a cable is plugged in and removed |
| 03:46.53 | Thumper_ | so things like sendmail don't take eons at boot time |
| 03:47.49 | Thumper_ | night guys - I'll catch trepan and brlcad (much) later |
| 03:50.05 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:51.33 | spldart | Thanks Thumper :) |
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| 04:17.30 | brlcad | blast007: yep, that was the point of the example ;) |
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| 06:44.32 | JeffM2501 | yay for yet another proto bump :) |
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| 07:43.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (9 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:43.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Input changes (some derived from a patch by workaphobia): |
| 07:43.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Allow 12 joystick buttons |
| 07:43.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Fix mousebox edge positioning (full speed at line, not at line + nomotionsize / 2) |
| 07:43.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Revise joystick coordinate handling to be independent of mousebox positioning (prep for sensitivity setting) |
| 07:43.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Make slow binoculars a selectable option that applies to all input types |
| 07:43.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Make slow motion keybinding affect all input types and change menus appropriately |
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| 08:31.15 | Guest334 | hi all |
| 08:33.34 | DTRemenak | hi |
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| 13:35.41 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: ping |
| 13:46.47 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: Would you please delete the collon (',') in bzfsAPI.h:1345? Additionally today I get that problem when starting bzflag: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/40857 Could it be that I don't have debug symbols inside binary? |
| 13:50.06 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, pong |
| 13:50.24 | ToughShooter | BTW: make distclean is also broken |
| 13:56.23 | BenUrban | if you were referring to ',' , that's a comma |
| 13:58.02 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, done |
| 13:58.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: Bad enum, removing the wrong char |
| 13:59.17 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, about the debug, I have no time at now. I'ts lunch time ;) |
| 14:08.09 | ToughShooter | BenUrban: You're right, I was confused again :/ |
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| 15:04.35 | conanhome | hi there people |
| 15:06.04 | conanhome | i was wondering if you could bring some light on this idea, basically i want to define if it would be overkill or not for a bzflag server |
| 15:06.23 | conanhome | the idea is to let bzfs to have jabber XML cappabilities |
| 15:07.31 | conanhome | bzfire wants to make a plugin for bzfs to let it consult my jabber bot (wich gives information about servers and players much like in the way the zeeborthers page) |
| 15:08.03 | conanhome | and i was wondering if the right way would be be to use the already built in method of passing messages in bzfs |
| 15:08.46 | conanhome | and have another application listening on some port and retrieving information from the bzbot database |
| 15:09.14 | conanhome | or if it would be coolest to have bzfs to talk jabber protocol |
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| 15:09.47 | conanhome | what do you think? it would be overkill to have jabber protocol capabilities on bzfs? |
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| 15:20.48 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : i'm interested in it ;) |
| 15:21.08 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: ;) |
| 15:21.27 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: can you answer my question about overkillness? |
| 15:21.37 | harpo | hello everybody, I'm harpo conanhomeśs sideshow in the bzbot development |
| 15:23.10 | conanhome | it seems everybody is sleepping, or maybe i was not clear about what i want to know |
| 15:26.10 | blast007 | why would it be overkill? seems like a reasonable idea |
| 15:26.23 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : ppl are often less talktative here ;) |
| 15:26.31 | blast007 | a plugin could read and send messages |
| 15:28.05 | conanhome | blast007: don't know, i think bzfs have its messages packaged in a C struct, probably a very compact one (din't look it in detail) |
| 15:28.52 | conanhome | blast007: and maybe having a bzfs talking XML would be somehow ... heavy |
| 15:29.57 | conanhome | blast007: but since i don't know bzfs code still i want a suggestion to where to go first: should i go for XML straight, or should i start with standard bzfs messages? |
| 15:30.26 | blast007 | you wouldn't have to mess with the code of bzfs |
| 15:30.30 | blast007 | just the bzfs API |
| 15:30.42 | harpo | conanhome: i'll give xml a try ;) |
| 15:31.05 | blast007 | http://www.bzflag.org/docs/api/ |
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| 17:05.05 | ToughShooter | DTRemenak: ping |
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| 17:54.22 | ToughShooter | Tupone: ping |
| 17:54.31 | Tupone | ToughShooter: pong |
| 17:54.59 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Does the newest BZFlag client from CVS HEAD crash for you, too? |
| 17:55.14 | Tupone | I have not tested it |
| 17:55.41 | Tupone | I see the 2.0 crashing sometimes |
| 17:55.52 | ToughShooter | Tupone: I think it is high likely that DTRemenak broke it but I'm not sure how to fix... |
| 17:56.10 | Tupone | I will check |
| 17:56.16 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, how old is the code? |
| 17:56.22 | JeffM2501 | I had some bugs in there till yesterday |
| 17:56.29 | JeffM2501 | well still may be bugs now :) |
| 17:56.33 | JeffM2501 | if your talking about head |
| 17:56.38 | ToughShooter | It is something with the input that is wrong |
| 17:56.44 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:57.04 | ToughShooter | ..wait..../me gets a bt |
| 17:57.06 | JeffM2501 | up till yesterday, the client would not receve msgPlayerUpdates correctly |
| 17:57.18 | JeffM2501 | on servers with more then one player |
| 17:58.44 | ToughShooter | There it is: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/40873 |
| 17:59.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah that ain't me :) |
| 17:59.35 | JeffM2501 | yay for it not being me :) |
| 17:59.37 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Well, today it doesn't even display anything, it just crashes instantly when launched, yesterday it started correctly |
| 18:00.02 | JeffM2501 | hmm I know it didn't do that when I commited |
| 18:00.10 | JeffM2501 | I at least test that |
| 18:00.19 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I found two errors in your code that broke it on my platform, though (but they have been minor ones) |
| 18:00.27 | JeffM2501 | what were they? |
| 18:00.46 | ToughShooter | Oh, one ';' too much and one ',' too much |
| 18:00.54 | JeffM2501 | really? |
| 18:00.58 | ToughShooter | So pretty easy to fix |
| 18:01.06 | JeffM2501 | where |
| 18:01.14 | JeffM2501 | cus that shoudl not have compiled I would think |
| 18:01.26 | JeffM2501 | and I would not have commited sans compile |
| 18:01.52 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Manu was so nice to fix it in CVS, see http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag |
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| 18:02.22 | JeffM2501 | hmm in the enum |
| 18:02.47 | ToughShooter | yes and bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsMessages.cxx before |
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| 18:58.59 | Tupone | admin for gu.de ? |
| 19:00.00 | Tupone | Birdie: ping |
| 19:00.08 | Birdie | k, who? |
| 19:00.30 | Tupone | LOK is too lagging |
| 19:04.47 | ToughShooter | Hmm, I remember LOK lags there often |
| 19:06.01 | Birdie | 8000 is a bit big:) |
| 19:07.04 | ToughShooter | heh, that is even more than I had at all times, my highest was "only" 482+- 30ms and 13% loss :) |
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| 19:40.32 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter: pong |
| 19:41.08 | ToughShooter | DTRemenak: Have you tested the changes you commited recently? |
| 19:41.17 | DTRemenak | yeah, they work for me |
| 19:41.22 | DTRemenak | do they do something odd for you? |
| 19:41.41 | ToughShooter | DTRemenak: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/40873 |
| 19:42.00 | DTRemenak | fun fun fun |
| 19:42.09 | ToughShooter | ignore the SDL-thingy, that is not related |
| 19:42.39 | DTRemenak | heh, it dies in the std::string constructor |
| 19:42.40 | ToughShooter | DTRemenak: I could give you shell access and a screen if you want |
| 19:43.07 | DTRemenak | lemme check the code first. I mighta done something stupid. |
| 19:44.07 | ToughShooter | I looked inside and I am unsure where the prob is but obviously it seems to have to do something with input |
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| 19:47.48 | DTRemenak | yup, I done something stupid. |
| 19:48.12 | ToughShooter | nobody is perfect |
| 19:48.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/common/KeyManager.cxx: name those buttons |
| 19:48.31 | DTRemenak | I'm mostly surprised it didn't crash on windows :) |
| 19:49.09 | ToughShooter | win is ... different |
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| 19:49.49 | DTRemenak | ibot: that's not very nice |
| 19:50.22 | SportyGal | :( |
| 19:50.29 | Tupone | hi SportyGal |
| 19:50.37 | SportyGal | Tupone: hi :( |
| 19:50.43 | SportyGal | ~onjoin #bzflag -SportyGal |
| 19:50.43 | ibot | ok, SportyGal |
| 19:50.44 | Tupone | what's up? |
| 19:50.50 | SportyGal | Tupone: just working :) |
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| 21:18.17 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I didn't test on win after your changes |
| 21:18.30 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: I did ;) |
| 21:18.33 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:18.54 | JeffM2501 | I'm just hoping my next set of changes don't bust anything more |
| 21:19.11 | JeffM2501 | it's gonna be another proto bump |
| 21:19.31 | CBG | proto bump? as opposed to proto change? |
| 21:19.42 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: your changes will always bust something more :) |
| 21:19.44 | JeffM2501 | the proto will change slightly |
| 21:20.04 | JeffM2501 | yeah but thos I'm usualy not scared of DTRemenak , these I am |
| 21:20.10 | DTRemenak | oh? |
| 21:20.13 | JeffM2501 | big message shufflin |
| 21:20.26 | JeffM2501 | changes to the enums for death reason and stuff |
| 21:20.46 | DTRemenak | oooh, fun |
| 21:20.54 | JeffM2501 | tho more stuff is in common places now, so it makes me happy |
| 21:21.06 | JeffM2501 | like one file for all the player postion/speed cheat checks |
| 21:21.47 | JeffM2501 | and one file that has allmost all the pack and unpack code |
| 21:22.21 | JeffM2501 | tho the coolest part was when I got the server side bot to spawn and drive around :) |
| 21:22.56 | DTRemenak | oooh, more fun |
| 21:23.09 | JeffM2501 | it drives thru stuff and can't die yet |
| 21:23.09 | DTRemenak | hm, I suppose I should rewrite bzfscron to use a real player now :) |
| 21:23.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah I figured you could |
| 21:23.50 | JeffM2501 | there are still places I have to change to make it not crash on server side players |
| 21:23.58 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:24.02 | JeffM2501 | like places we assume we have a net handler |
| 21:24.23 | JeffM2501 | probalby have about 10 more places to do on mesages sent out |
| 21:24.29 | JeffM2501 | brb |
| 21:48.27 | JeffM2501 | fun with algebra :) |
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| 21:58.09 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I made a bzfs only .sln for vc7, I don't know if you want to make one for 8, I find it easyer to have 2 of them when trying to debug both the client and server, then you get a debuger for each |
| 21:58.52 | DTRemenak | meh |
| 21:59.03 | JeffM2501 | a fair enough assesment |
| 21:59.07 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 21:59.27 | DTRemenak | haven't run a windows server in...a long time |
| 21:59.30 | JeffM2501 | debuging why bzfs was using 100% cpu... now that was a pita |
| 21:59.41 | DTRemenak | two machines makes debugging client/server much easier |
| 21:59.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:00.01 | JeffM2501 | then I'd have to install vc on the other windows machine |
| 22:00.02 | DTRemenak | so that dualie gets the server half |
| 22:00.17 | JeffM2501 | and I kind of like having a "virgin" system for testing |
| 22:00.25 | JeffM2501 | your better at gdb then I |
| 22:00.29 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 22:00.42 | DTRemenak | it's very different from vc's debugger |
| 22:00.47 | JeffM2501 | very |
| 22:01.07 | JeffM2501 | and I'm geting crashes left and right as I do the bot stuff, so it's nice to have server in debug |
| 22:01.38 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 22:01.55 | JeffM2501 | I just LOVE derefrencing null |
| 22:02.41 | JeffM2501 | did you ever upgrade the bios in the dualie? |
| 22:03.00 | JeffM2501 | and put in your 500s |
| 22:06.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/SaveWorldMenu.cxx: reset world-save mode for menu operation |
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| 22:39.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (12 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:39.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: clean up the playerKilled reason ( BlowedUpReason), make both the client and server use the same enumerations |
| 22:39.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: change proto to 36 |
| 22:39.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: add callbacks to let server side bots know somone was killed |
| 22:39.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: more message cleanups |
| 22:39.53 | DTRemenak | urgh |
| 22:40.19 | JeffM2501 | ? |
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| 22:40.39 | DTRemenak | was just trying to merge v2_0branch |
| 22:40.45 | JeffM2501 | bwahahaha |
| 22:41.01 | JeffM2501 | I manualy moved up changes in the API from 2.0 |
| 22:41.09 | JeffM2501 | some didn't make it in the last merge it seems |
| 22:41.26 | DTRemenak | last merge was quite a while ago |
| 22:41.41 | DTRemenak | probably two weeks |
| 22:42.20 | JeffM2501 | the header had been mreged, but not the actual functions |
| 22:42.29 | JeffM2501 | was wierd |
| 22:42.38 | JeffM2501 | had to change em anyway, so was no bigie |
| 22:43.21 | DTRemenak | hm |
| 22:43.25 | DTRemenak | that is strange |
| 22:43.42 | JeffM2501 | it was the helpfile and reports API stuff |
| 22:43.53 | DTRemenak | 2.1 is diverging quite a bit, makes merging harder |
| 22:44.33 | DTRemenak | maybe we should release 2.0.6 so everyone will move to head :) |
| 22:44.47 | JeffM2501 | umm yeah |
| 22:45.03 | JeffM2501 | I'm only going to split stuff more too |
| 22:45.12 | DTRemenak | yeah, I know |
| 22:45.22 | JeffM2501 | my goal is to not have a single call to getDirectMessageBuffer in bzfs.cxx |
| 22:45.43 | DTRemenak | it wouldn't be a problem except that somebody is doing active new-feature development on 2.0.5 too |
| 22:45.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:45.54 | JeffM2501 | somone is |
| 22:46.27 | JeffM2501 | this is why I say tag BEFORE release and only allow bug fixes in ;) |
| 22:47.12 | DTRemenak | yeah, branching three weeks after release was a bit silly |
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| 22:54.30 | JeffM2501 | I"ll wait to commit the next stuff till your done |
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| 23:07.38 | JeffM2501 | hmm I think I see a bug wth the option to kill TKers |
| 23:07.57 | DTRemenak | oh? |
| 23:08.01 | JeffM2501 | we have a check to kick the killer if they tk too much |
| 23:08.11 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 23:08.13 | JeffM2501 | then we check the victimData |
| 23:08.19 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.19 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.26 | JeffM2501 | why would a victim be kicked for TK? |
| 23:08.47 | JeffM2501 | but then we check to see if the TK killer shoudl die |
| 23:08.52 | JeffM2501 | and kill him |
| 23:08.57 | JeffM2501 | but only if there is still a vitim |
| 23:09.07 | DTRemenak | the victim may also have tk'ed recently? |
| 23:09.18 | JeffM2501 | should we just not check to kill him right after we see if he shoudl be kicked? |
| 23:09.29 | DTRemenak | or is victimData in the killer's network alloc? |
| 23:09.43 | JeffM2501 | this is all in the same function |
| 23:10.01 | JeffM2501 | unless he was also the killer |
| 23:10.03 | DTRemenak | yeah, but you can't ever count on playerdata not being null |
| 23:10.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:10.07 | DTRemenak | probably just a bogus comment |
| 23:10.13 | JeffM2501 | there is a check for it too |
| 23:10.22 | JeffM2501 | and we REGET victimData |
| 23:10.25 | JeffM2501 | it's wier |
| 23:10.30 | JeffM2501 | I know it can go null |
| 23:10.49 | JeffM2501 | it has to be if the killer == victim |
| 23:11.06 | JeffM2501 | hmm, but there is a check for that, we'll never TK kick a suicide |
| 23:11.26 | DTRemenak | suicide with tk |
| 23:11.29 | DTRemenak | err with geno |
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| 23:11.48 | JeffM2501 | the geno message would happen latter |
| 23:12.00 | JeffM2501 | since it's all single thread |
| 23:12.14 | DTRemenak | ok. I dunno what order things are handled in |
| 23:12.15 | JeffM2501 | if you TK yourself shoudl you be TK kicked? |
| 23:12.25 | DTRemenak | I only ever touched that code for the hunters-are-a-team change |
| 23:12.40 | JeffM2501 | I'm gonna clean it up |
| 23:12.43 | DTRemenak | go for it |
| 23:12.45 | JeffM2501 | and we can tweak it if I miss part |
| 23:12.53 | DTRemenak | yeah, this is dev branch |
| 23:12.56 | JeffM2501 | since I'm puting it all in funcs :) |
| 23:13.03 | DTRemenak | bust it up |
| 23:13.07 | DTRemenak | fix it later |
| 23:13.21 | DTRemenak | when it gets tested |
| 23:14.22 | JeffM2501 | ok, if we are doing the "kill TKers" command line option, and you TK yourself, then you shoudl not die AGAIN right? |
| 23:14.22 | DTRemenak | speaking of which, when you finish messing with the protocol, we should probably bust out some beta builds and get the testing going |
| 23:14.29 | DTRemenak | right |
| 23:14.30 | JeffM2501 | betaL |
| 23:14.32 | JeffM2501 | beta? |
| 23:14.38 | JeffM2501 | alpha :) |
| 23:14.42 | DTRemenak | alpha...whatever |
| 23:14.47 | JeffM2501 | pre-alpha |
| 23:14.49 | DTRemenak | builds |
| 23:14.53 | DTRemenak | just builds |
| 23:14.58 | DTRemenak | I don't care what kind :) |
| 23:15.00 | JeffM2501 | like negitive omega |
| 23:15.17 | JeffM2501 | yeah, don't know what else I have to change yet |
| 23:15.49 | DTRemenak | just that there are bound to be some^Ha lot of bugs introduced between tupone's changes and your changes and my changes. |
| 23:16.04 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah |
| 23:16.37 | DTRemenak | and I haven't even started cranking out the big stuff yet :) |
| 23:18.10 | JeffM2501 | what are you planing? |
| 23:18.13 | DTRemenak | the input stuff I committed last night was prep for prelim testing the hud/input changes we talked about earlier |
| 23:18.24 | JeffM2501 | oh taking out the box? |
| 23:18.28 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 23:18.31 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 23:18.37 | JeffM2501 | gonna make the round ring too? |
| 23:18.39 | JeffM2501 | with the marker |
| 23:18.41 | DTRemenak | I'm gonna try it and see how it works |
| 23:18.45 | DTRemenak | that's the plan |
| 23:19.01 | JeffM2501 | I have code to draw that round hud with compas from screamers if you need it |
| 23:19.28 | DTRemenak | shouldn't be that hard. I mean, it's like a circle and some colored triangles :) |
| 23:19.44 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:19.47 | JeffM2501 | it's not that hard |
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