| 00:01.50 | menotume | HAPPY NEW YEAR (to everyone in the appropriate time zone) |
| 00:02.47 | brad2901 | yay :) |
| 00:02.53 | brad2901 | happy new year ! |
| 00:03.06 | Chestal | hmmph, the clocks are nto working correctly |
| 00:08.39 | Chestal | but the timeserver is, hurrah |
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| 00:20.26 | ToughShooter | happy new year all |
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| 02:51.08 | BearPerson | what, a supercooled joystick? |
| 02:51.19 | JeffM2501 | well it is super cool |
| 02:51.25 | BearPerson | that'd get you stick to a game ;-) |
| 02:51.41 | JeffM2501 | http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm |
| 02:53.41 | BearPerson | okay. you're right. ;-) |
| 02:54.55 | blast007 | I like that joystick :) |
| 03:00.10 | JeffM2501 | 34 buttons |
| 03:00.19 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:00.41 | JeffM2501 | 7 anaolog axes |
| 03:00.47 | JeffM2501 | 3 hats |
| 03:00.52 | JeffM2501 | and a mini stick |
| 03:01.25 | JeffM2501 | AND it lights up |
| 03:07.36 | blast007 | I just have their P2500 gamepad |
| 03:08.16 | blast007 | 10 buttons, shift key, POV hat, dual analog, rumble feedback |
| 03:08.49 | blast007 | works good for racing games |
| 03:27.38 | JeffM2501 | this thing has basicly a MOUSE in the side of the throttle |
| 03:50.25 | Blue_Eyes | hey Jeff, Chestal, Menooooooo....Happy New year to all, have a nice year |
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| 04:17.15 | menotume | thx Blue |
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| 04:59.58 | menobot | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.06 | menotume | crap ! |
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| 05:01.17 | menobot | I'm back! |
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| 05:01.57 | menobot | I'm back! |
| 05:02.05 | menobot | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.11 | menobot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:02.34 | Aribeth | oh no, its y2k all over again :P |
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| 05:03.17 | blast007 | hehe |
| 05:03.49 | Aribeth | happy new year! |
| 05:04.20 | SilverFoX | y2k... lol |
| 05:04.29 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 05:20.52 | Blue_Eyes | tupone ci sei? |
| 05:21.02 | Tupone | yes |
| 05:21.13 | Blue_Eyes | tanti auguri di buon anno |
| 05:21.44 | Tupone | auguri anche a te |
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| 09:46.49 | JeffM2501 | why are the children so upsett about beeing left out of the "global group" |
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| 11:15.57 | sniperyyd | ToughShooter_: why you are online with two nicknames? |
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| 13:42.24 | sniperyyd | hey WolverineJrDUB |
| 13:42.37 | sniperyyd | WolverineJrDUB: wanna play 1vs1 srv 1? |
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| 15:25.36 | bz6722 | hello... |
| 15:25.56 | bz6722 | anyone there? |
| 15:26.17 | BearPerson | only us chickens |
| 15:26.34 | bz6722 | lol |
| 15:26.35 | sniperyyd | and me:D |
| 15:26.53 | bz6722 | I'm having trouble finding a server... |
| 15:26.56 | sniperyyd | hmm |
| 15:27.00 | sniperyyd | what one?:o |
| 15:27.33 | sniperyyd | what server???:O |
| 15:27.38 | bz6722 | good question - where can I find a list of available servers? |
| 15:27.53 | sniperyyd | press 'find servers' |
| 15:27.54 | sniperyyd | :D |
| 15:28.22 | bz6722 | yup, and it says "servers found: 0" |
| 15:31.57 | bz6722 | ...and in the box at the bottom of the screen is says ... |
| 15:32.53 | bz6722 | Can't open list server: http://www.bigfoot.com/~bzflag/list-server.txt |
| 15:33.49 | bz6722 | Hello sniper, chickens ... you still out there? |
| 15:34.00 | sniperyyd | hmm |
| 15:34.00 | sniperyyd | yeah |
| 15:34.07 | sniperyyd | what o.s you are on? |
| 15:34.20 | sniperyyd | sory, im making my maps website.. |
| 15:34.59 | bz6722 | M$ Windows XP |
| 15:35.35 | sniperyyd | ah |
| 15:35.36 | sniperyyd | me too |
| 15:35.38 | sniperyyd | wait a minute |
| 15:36.54 | sniperyyd | ahhhhhhh |
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| 16:10.11 | ToughShooter | Happy new year SportChick |
| 16:10.40 | sniperyyd | hey ToughShooter |
| 16:10.41 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 16:10.50 | sniperyyd | happy new year ToughShooter |
| 16:10.51 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 16:17.00 | SportChick | Happy New Year, TS and all |
| 16:22.15 | menotume | HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!! |
| 16:22.24 | menotume | (except sc) |
| 16:22.31 | menotume | :P |
| 16:25.59 | menotume | revenge :) |
| 16:55.39 | sniperyyd | Thumper_: hello there! |
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| 17:32.24 | bz6008 | who do i report bugs to?,cheat bugs? |
| 17:33.41 | bz6008 | ok i will report the bug to blast :),because i need to get going |
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| 17:37.10 | menobot | I'm back! |
| 17:42.48 | sniperyyd | didnt notice that u leaved menobot :D |
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| 17:46.14 | menobot | I'm back! |
| 17:46.19 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 17:46.35 | A_Meteorite | oh, anyone know about bzfs security? |
| 17:46.41 | A_Meteorite | if so, give me a PM |
| 17:46.46 | A_Meteorite | I would like to review mine. :D |
| 17:46.48 | A_Meteorite | :D |
| 17:46.53 | A_Meteorite | hmmm |
| 17:46.59 | sniperyyd | :D |
| 17:47.04 | A_Meteorite | didn't display smiley first time... weird |
| 17:47.40 | sniperyyd | ... |
| 17:47.45 | sniperyyd | finnally, menobot left :D |
| 17:48.54 | A_Meteorite | bbl |
| 17:48.57 | sniperyyd | k |
| 17:48.58 | sniperyyd | :D |
| 17:50.29 | A_Meteorite | *sigh* <- what a phone does to me |
| 17:54.55 | sniperyyd | :D |
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| 17:56.56 | sniperyyd | wb |
| 17:57.07 | sniperyyd | cods: could u help me using experimental0.2? |
| 17:57.36 | cods | no |
| 17:58.24 | sniperyyd | where can i get help then??? :o |
| 17:58.36 | sniperyyd | reading examples? eh . lol ?:D |
| 18:00.10 | cods | I don't see how reading examples may make you laughing out loud, but yes it may be a good idea |
| 18:00.37 | sniperyyd | ok |
| 18:00.47 | A_Meteorite | cods: because that's the best way to learn :) |
| 18:01.02 | sniperyyd | and only one example is rabbit.py |
| 18:01.14 | sniperyyd | cause i seen that Thumper_ uses Raw |
| 18:07.00 | A_Meteorite | woah... my client is really glitchy |
| 18:07.07 | A_Meteorite | I hover over the names and they dissapear |
| 18:07.14 | A_Meteorite | gotta restart... :/ |
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| 18:08.14 | A_Meteorite | test :) |
| 18:08.25 | A_Meteorite | ok, it's working now... |
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| 18:11.03 | sniperyyd | hi zongo |
| 18:11.06 | sniperyyd | you are jrzongo? |
| 18:11.12 | |zongo| | yeah |
| 18:11.16 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 18:11.22 | sniperyyd | im in your team |
| 18:11.24 | sniperyyd | im sniperiid :D |
| 18:11.30 | |zongo| | sniperyyd, talk at #dub ;) |
| 18:11.35 | |zongo| | yup i noticed ;) |
| 18:12.36 | sniperyyd | cods: why did u put "build ( game ) |
| 18:12.37 | sniperyyd | " |
| 18:12.38 | sniperyyd | ? |
| 18:14.12 | cods | the function 'build' is called with this parameter 'game' when bzmap create the map |
| 18:14.30 | cods | the python module should contains such a function |
| 18:15.11 | sniperyyd | cods: ok :) |
| 18:15.21 | cods | the point of this function is to populate and configure a empty "game" (which include option, objects, help page, and so on) |
| 18:15.38 | sniperyyd | ok |
| 18:15.40 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 18:15.47 | sniperyyd | gtg eat :D |
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| 18:29.13 | sniperyyd | cods: and all functions ( except sqarerings, cells and that ) are rquired |
| 18:29.14 | sniperyyd | ? |
| 18:29.59 | sniperyyd | required* |
| 18:30.35 | sniperyyd | that you wrote in rabbit.py |
| 18:41.22 | sniperyyd | cods: what is required from that fucntions u wrote in rabbit.py ?:D |
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| 18:47.36 | sniperyyd | cods: you still there?:D |
| 18:47.45 | sniperyyd | hey JeffM2501 |
| 18:49.08 | JeffM2501 | hello |
| 18:50.19 | sniperyyd | :D |
| 18:58.17 | cosmos | another new year |
| 19:00.01 | JeffM2501 | happy new beer |
| 19:00.27 | cosmos | we will see about that :) |
| 19:01.14 | JeffM2501 | man those blogspot people are relay pusshing the kiddies buttons |
| 19:01.23 | cosmos | url? |
| 19:01.24 | A_Meteorite | yeah |
| 19:01.36 | A_Meteorite | but, ummm... why are you saying that here? ;) |
| 19:01.39 | JeffM2501 | bzflagcheat.blogspot.com |
| 19:01.47 | JeffM2501 | because I personaly find it funny as hell |
| 19:01.54 | A_Meteorite | hehe: a meteorite = nice guy |
| 19:02.05 | cosmos | hahahaha |
| 19:02.08 | A_Meteorite | I find it quite funny |
| 19:02.16 | A_Meteorite | until he does one about me, that is |
| 19:02.23 | JeffM2501 | they are 100% right int there commic |
| 19:02.42 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, you have to roll with the punches man. |
| 19:02.51 | A_Meteorite | yeah, I'm learning to do that |
| 19:02.51 | JeffM2501 | it's just a retard on the net |
| 19:02.55 | A_Meteorite | at least trying |
| 19:03.17 | A_Meteorite | Blogger deleted bzjesus.blogspot.com |
| 19:03.18 | cosmos | who is it |
| 19:03.18 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 19:03.25 | A_Meteorite | it's the big cheater |
| 19:03.30 | A_Meteorite | the big bad one ;) |
| 19:03.44 | cosmos | ive been away for a bit |
| 19:03.52 | JeffM2501 | a couple kiddies made some cheats |
| 19:03.54 | A_Meteorite | oh |
| 19:03.59 | JeffM2501 | they've been going around a while |
| 19:04.03 | A_Meteorite | well, being God cheats it's pretty hard to get rid of |
| 19:04.04 | cosmos | **WARNING** Using these mods might get you banned from CERTAIN servers |
| 19:04.07 | JeffM2501 | its' freaking out all the younger server ops |
| 19:04.08 | cosmos | heh |
| 19:04.15 | A_Meteorite | without doing certain drastic measures |
| 19:04.22 | A_Meteorite | I told him to put that warning there |
| 19:04.23 | JeffM2501 | and they keep posting about it on bzbb, giveing them the attention they want |
| 19:04.32 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: I stopped |
| 19:04.43 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, I know you did, because I deleted all the posts |
| 19:04.48 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, this isn't about you |
| 19:04.50 | cosmos | these guys are pretty funny |
| 19:04.51 | A_Meteorite | ....you did?.... |
| 19:05.01 | A_Meteorite | I never even noticed, lol |
| 19:05.15 | A_Meteorite | cosmos: they are until you read the comments |
| 19:05.21 | cosmos | i can see how they would get win xp going nuts |
| 19:05.22 | JeffM2501 | you know, that entire "servers policing" forum that is gone |
| 19:05.25 | A_Meteorite | especially when Win Xp is invovled |
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| 19:05.44 | A_Meteorite | I mean "not funny" as in the vulgar language |
| 19:05.46 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, actualy I find the comments the most funny |
| 19:05.53 | A_Meteorite | I'm not into it bad language, you see |
| 19:05.57 | cods | sniperyyd: only the build function is mandatory |
| 19:06.04 | JeffM2501 | yeah not all of us are kids, we can take the fact that people use adult language some times |
| 19:06.08 | sniperyyd | cods: ok thanx |
| 19:06.11 | cods | and please don't ask in query if you don't get answer there.. |
| 19:06.12 | cosmos | yeah im reading the comments |
| 19:06.18 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: I realize that :) |
| 19:06.27 | cosmos | and as someone well into his thirties im busting a gut laughing |
| 19:06.46 | sniperyyd | cods: ok:) |
| 19:06.49 | JeffM2501 | what I find funny is there only responce is basicly "well your a doodie head" |
| 19:06.54 | A_Meteorite | LOL!! |
| 19:06.55 | cosmos | yeah |
| 19:07.02 | sniperyyd | cods: i still dont know how to apply material to a box.. :D |
| 19:07.05 | cosmos | its like a junior high standoff |
| 19:07.06 | A_Meteorite | I like the "I'm smarter than you" |
| 19:07.21 | Mr_Molez | cant bzflag just be made differently; to stop all cheaters ? |
| 19:07.29 | A_Meteorite | if you want to code it |
| 19:07.33 | cosmos | jesus edition cheats. heh too bad spoogebob wasn't this inventive |
| 19:07.33 | sniperyyd | yep :D |
| 19:07.48 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez, yes, 2.2.0 will have more things server side to prevent them |
| 19:07.52 | JeffM2501 | that is the idea at least |
| 19:08.00 | JeffM2501 | bzflag was made as a lan game, so it trusts clients |
| 19:08.10 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: are there any plans to help stop God mode in 2.2? |
| 19:08.15 | JeffM2501 | we need to move it to a more authortive server type system that is common for internet play |
| 19:08.30 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, if someone writes them, sure |
| 19:08.35 | cosmos | jeffm, well all the n00bs were not around for the sgi lan game ;) |
| 19:08.38 | JeffM2501 | tupone is moving more things server side |
| 19:08.42 | A_Meteorite | ahh |
| 19:08.44 | JeffM2501 | that will help |
| 19:08.46 | A_Meteorite | that's better |
| 19:08.51 | JeffM2501 | but as for "plans" there is no plan |
| 19:09.00 | Mr_Molez | i was reading on forum about some 1 who said this client was a cheat and the maker said it wasn't, well anyway. He said most cheats could be eliminated if the server did all the calculations and not the client |
| 19:09.01 | A_Meteorite | yeah, it would be something "nice to see" though |
| 19:09.01 | JeffM2501 | everyone just does what they want |
| 19:09.29 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez, it's not as simple as that but yes, many of the cheats could be defeated if the srever verifys all input |
| 19:09.41 | JeffM2501 | and dosn't let them go "god" mode in the first place |
| 19:09.49 | JeffM2501 | that is one way to prevent major cheats |
| 19:10.00 | JeffM2501 | by not allowing them in the protocoll in the first place |
| 19:10.08 | trepan | or alternatively, only send user controls to the server |
| 19:10.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:10.18 | trepan | avoids time-tolerance checks, etc... |
| 19:10.23 | A_Meteorite | wouldn't that mean more packets? |
| 19:10.31 | JeffM2501 | there are many methods of limiting the input |
| 19:10.33 | A_Meteorite | not neccesarrily more server load, more bandwidth load |
| 19:10.41 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, depends how you do it |
| 19:10.45 | JeffM2501 | don't assume |
| 19:10.49 | JeffM2501 | reasarch |
| 19:10.50 | A_Meteorite | right |
| 19:11.03 | JeffM2501 | it's not like bzflag is the only net game out there |
| 19:11.16 | JeffM2501 | there are many other games doing it in more secure ways |
| 19:11.20 | sniperyyd | cods: how to apply a material to a box? :D |
| 19:11.23 | A_Meteorite | I know, it's just whenever I hear that, us DSL hosters get the creeps |
| 19:11.24 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 19:11.25 | JeffM2501 | quake does the input method |
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| 19:12.44 | sniperyyd | hey you! :D |
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| 19:13.27 | ToughShooter | A_Meteorite: Well, get FTTH then ;) |
| 19:13.55 | A_Meteorite | FTTH? |
| 19:14.13 | ToughShooter | There's google |
| 19:14.20 | sniperyyd | :D |
| 19:14.31 | A_Meteorite | fiber to the home |
| 19:14.35 | A_Meteorite | I saw that Verizon FiOS |
| 19:14.40 | A_Meteorite | but it's not in our area |
| 19:14.47 | A_Meteorite | I would looooove that |
| 19:15.01 | cosmos | i told my dad to get fibre so he picked up a jar of metamucil |
| 19:15.10 | JeffM2501 | it's called FIOS |
| 19:15.14 | A_Meteorite | do you know (off the top of your head) if there are other FFTH providers? |
| 19:15.18 | A_Meteorite | besides Verizon |
| 19:15.24 | JeffM2501 | it will be the god of internet |
| 19:15.36 | cosmos | i swear when i call verizon the call is routed directly to hades |
| 19:15.49 | A_Meteorite | the technology seems quite new - or it's not been made known well |
| 19:15.55 | JeffM2501 | I'll deal with the devil for 60 megs down |
| 19:15.58 | cosmos | they wanted to charge me $675 to fix my phone wiring that they screwed up |
| 19:16.03 | A_Meteorite | ... |
| 19:16.05 | JeffM2501 | put that sucker on the phone |
| 19:16.43 | cosmos | hrm, 1.35 increase in gas prices next week! |
| 19:18.03 | sniperyyd | cods: how to apply a material to a box? :D |
| 19:20.58 | sniperyyd | cods: u there?:) |
| 19:25.15 | JeffM2501 | a regular box can't have a material, you need to use a meshbox |
| 19:26.31 | sniperyyd | i know |
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| 19:28.45 | sniperyyd | wb zongo :D |
| 19:35.19 | cods | sniperyyd: you can easily find answers by reading rabbit.py.. |
| 19:35.25 | cods | search a bit before asking something.. |
| 19:36.01 | cods | the more you ask, the less I want to answer you |
| 19:36.34 | cods | (probably bad english.. but the idea is there) |
| 19:37.09 | sniperyyd | cods: i searched, it doesnt work, puts in the map generated just options ... end help ... end world size 250 end and no objects ( in my .py i added a cylinder ) |
| 19:38.34 | cods | are you sure you added the object to game.world ? |
| 19:38.54 | sniperyyd | how to add it ? :D |
| 19:41.08 | cods | 1) you don't need to end each question with a smiley, 2) PLEASE READ rabbit.py which can give you the answer.. |
| 19:41.16 | cods | from now, I stop answering you. |
| 19:41.36 | sniperyyd | cods: sorry... ok |
| 20:05.06 | JeffM2501 | cods, don't you wish there was a nice way to say "RTFM" ;) |
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| 20:05.41 | twb | Hey fellas, why do I get "error unpacking world database" whenever I try to join a game from my Debian/PPC box? |
| 20:05.53 | JeffM2501 | what version? |
| 20:06.00 | twb | something.4 |
| 20:06.02 | twb | lemme check. |
| 20:06.11 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.4 |
| 20:06.18 | JeffM2501 | from a package or from source? |
| 20:06.24 | twb | 2.0.4.20051019-STABLE-linux-gnu-SDL |
| 20:06.28 | twb | From the Debian package. |
| 20:06.45 | JeffM2501 | get cvs and build it yourself, some of the packages don't seem to work too well |
| 20:06.47 | twb | It's been happening for like three months, with the 2.0.2 packages, too. |
| 20:07.21 | JeffM2501 | yeah I don't think the debian package builder does it correctly |
| 20:07.24 | twb | So it's not a stupid endianness bug or something? |
| 20:07.45 | JeffM2501 | I think it efectivly IS, but it's because of how it was built, not the code |
| 20:07.51 | twb | I was kinda hoping you'd say "Oh, whoops. Just a sec and I'll fix it". |
| 20:08.13 | JeffM2501 | the problem happens on AMD64s too |
| 20:08.19 | JeffM2501 | it's a build thing, not a code thing |
| 20:08.32 | JeffM2501 | we put all packet data in network format |
| 20:08.49 | twb | Okie dokey. |
| 20:08.50 | JeffM2501 | but the packing of the flots gets screwed some times depending on how its' built |
| 20:09.04 | twb | Is it just a bad ./configure option |
| 20:09.06 | twb | ? |
| 20:09.06 | JeffM2501 | every person I have seen with the problem, has it fixed by building there own |
| 20:09.23 | JeffM2501 | I think it's a bad enviromnet on the system that made the package |
| 20:09.25 | twb | I'd prefer to fix it upstream in the deb package. |
| 20:09.28 | JeffM2501 | not the config itself |
| 20:09.39 | JeffM2501 | well Tim is basicly AWOL so I don't see that happening |
| 20:09.44 | twb | bad environment in what way? |
| 20:09.54 | twb | bad version of a lib? |
| 20:09.59 | JeffM2501 | something he has makes his packages not work on a number of systems |
| 20:10.04 | JeffM2501 | or a wierd compiler version or something |
| 20:10.12 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: Lol, just saw your blog |
| 20:10.17 | JeffM2501 | my what? |
| 20:10.28 | A_Meteorite | your blog |
| 20:10.28 | menotume | JeffM2501 has a blog ? |
| 20:10.32 | A_Meteorite | yup |
| 20:10.35 | JeffM2501 | I do? |
| 20:10.47 | JeffM2501 | oh the like year old LJ thing? |
| 20:10.56 | A_Meteorite | no |
| 20:10.58 | A_Meteorite | http://stuffabstuff.blogspot.com/ |
| 20:11.05 | A_Meteorite | http://www.blogger.com/profile/16526804 |
| 20:11.10 | A_Meteorite | either that someone says they are youy |
| 20:11.12 | A_Meteorite | *you |
| 20:11.38 | A_Meteorite | ummm... did someone sign-up as you? |
| 20:11.45 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 20:11.55 | JeffM2501 | yeah probably |
| 20:11.57 | A_Meteorite | I found it via a comment at that cheater's blog |
| 20:12.02 | twb | I had this conversation last week. |
| 20:12.07 | twb | "I have a blog?" |
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| 20:33.42 | orchid | maybe Tim reads bug reports http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343551 |
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| 21:26.38 | BenUrban | oops wrong button |
| 21:28.42 | ruskie | lol |
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| 21:34.21 | SilverFoX | I see a LOT of registrations on bzbb that are regulars on silvercat. I think we're making an impact with our registration policy. |
| 21:34.32 | A_Meteorite | yeah |
| 21:35.00 | A_Meteorite | I'm working on making you /register to even spawn and you must global reg to talk |
| 21:35.02 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 21:35.17 | JeffM2501 | /register IS BAD |
| 21:35.20 | JeffM2501 | bad bad bad bad |
| 21:35.24 | JeffM2501 | do not use it |
| 21:35.37 | A_Meteorite | If I go all global reg I'll lose all traffic |
| 21:35.41 | A_Meteorite | I've done it temp before |
| 21:35.50 | A_Meteorite | like two weeks of it |
| 21:35.51 | JeffM2501 | then don't do any reg to spawn |
| 21:36.02 | A_Meteorite | k |
| 21:36.03 | JeffM2501 | /register stores plaintext passwords |
| 21:36.09 | JeffM2501 | it is evil |
| 21:36.22 | A_Meteorite | I though they're encrypted in the database? |
| 21:36.31 | JeffM2501 | they are |
| 21:36.36 | JeffM2501 | but they are sent as chat |
| 21:36.50 | A_Meteorite | well, I won't do anything evil ;) |
| 21:36.50 | SilverFoX | There have been almost 100 registrations since we started the policy on silvercat two days ago. |
| 21:36.55 | JeffM2501 | we tell people that /reg servers are mostly out to scam passwords |
| 21:36.56 | BearPerson | passwords sitting in logs are nice :) |
| 21:37.09 | A_Meteorite | I don't use them |
| 21:37.16 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mater |
| 21:37.18 | JeffM2501 | it's the concept |
| 21:37.23 | A_Meteorite | ahh |
| 21:37.26 | JeffM2501 | you should use the real reg system |
| 21:37.31 | A_Meteorite | ok |
| 21:37.32 | JeffM2501 | the / stuff was mostly a test |
| 21:37.36 | JeffM2501 | I should never have made it |
| 21:37.47 | A_Meteorite | Silverfox: what's your server message that attracts so many global regs? |
| 21:37.49 | BearPerson | maybe the first time you use it it should pop up a warning instead |
| 21:37.57 | JeffM2501 | or just remove it |
| 21:38.05 | BearPerson | and set KnowsRegisterDangers to true |
| 21:38.09 | JeffM2501 | and allow for global type auth with just the server |
| 21:38.12 | A_Meteorite | if you don't mind me using it ;) |
| 21:38.12 | SilverFoX | A_Meteorite, we have a script that runs. If there and revokes SPAWN if there are more than x players. That way you don't kill your playercount when the server is trying to get started. |
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| 21:58.46 | A_Meteorite | is there a permission that can not let you register? |
| 21:59.00 | A_Meteorite | I need meteorite_admin and meteorite_logger to be able to identify |
| 21:59.11 | A_Meteorite | but that's it |
| 21:59.42 | A_Meteorite | wait.. a permission wouldn't work, before they are identifies they are in EVERYONE |
| 21:59.56 | A_Meteorite | and then everyone else would be able to register :( |
| 22:00.04 | JeffM2501 | that is why local reg is BAD |
| 22:00.21 | A_Meteorite | will making the file read-only work? |
| 22:00.26 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:00.27 | A_Meteorite | or will it crash there server, lol? |
| 22:00.29 | JeffM2501 | it stores it in ram |
| 22:00.29 | A_Meteorite | ahh ok |
| 22:00.35 | JeffM2501 | then will just fail on write |
| 22:00.38 | JeffM2501 | local reg is bad |
| 22:00.41 | A_Meteorite | oh |
| 22:00.41 | JeffM2501 | just trust me on this |
| 22:00.45 | A_Meteorite | ok |
| 22:00.57 | A_Meteorite | I guess they can identify with /password |
| 22:01.20 | JeffM2501 | or use the global registration system |
| 22:01.30 | JeffM2501 | that is what it is designed for |
| 22:01.37 | A_Meteorite | yeah, only prob is, I have to have multiple e-mail addresses |
| 22:01.42 | JeffM2501 | then get some |
| 22:01.46 | JeffM2501 | it's not hard |
| 22:01.52 | A_Meteorite | I know, just a hassle :P |
| 22:02.01 | A_Meteorite | I have TONS of Gmail invites |
| 22:02.02 | JeffM2501 | how many you gonna use? |
| 22:02.09 | JeffM2501 | 2-3? |
| 22:02.12 | A_Meteorite | yes |
| 22:02.19 | JeffM2501 | www.yahoo.com |
| 22:02.25 | JeffM2501 | make them forwarders |
| 22:02.28 | JeffM2501 | done and done |
| 22:02.32 | A_Meteorite | ahh, ok |
| 22:02.32 | JeffM2501 | use your brain |
| 22:02.34 | A_Meteorite | thanks |
| 22:02.45 | wizatcomputer | gmail also forwards |
| 22:07.01 | JeffM2501 | it ain't rocket science |
| 22:09.06 | A_Meteorite | back |
| 22:09.17 | A_Meteorite | I'll tell you now: taking trash out in the rain is NOT fun ;) |
| 22:09.17 | JeffM2501 | thanks for telling us, I was on the edge of my seat |
| 22:09.28 | A_Meteorite | I figured |
| 22:09.33 | JeffM2501 | try a morgate payment |
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| 22:16.20 | SilverFoX | in case anyone else wants to see our register-revoke script: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/35460 |
| 22:17.22 | wizatcomputer | SilverFoX: i'm assuming the PW is just a fake one, rather than the actuall pw |
| 22:17.44 | wizatcomputer | .spell actuall |
| 22:17.52 | wizatcomputer | forgot how to spell that |
| 22:18.32 | wizatcomputer | ~spell actuall |
| 22:19.22 | blast007 | the octal pw |
| 22:32.17 | JeffM2501 | heh, this joystick has more axes then sdl supports :) |
| 22:37.49 | Tupone | Havent seen New year mail spam yet :/ |
| 22:39.01 | Tupone | hmm Tim is not there. That's why :) |
| 22:42.14 | SilverFoX | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=64540 |
| 22:42.15 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure he'll get to it at some point |
| 22:42.32 | SilverFoX | ^^^ More info about the script. |
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| 23:05.04 | Tupone | TimRiker: not New Year spamming yet ? |
| 23:06.59 | JeffM2501 | it's kind of cool to drive a tank with an aircraft throttle and stick :) |
| 23:07.12 | blast007 | ;) |
| 23:08.43 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't seem to see all axes tho |
| 23:13.08 | TimRiker | Tupone: spamming? oh, you mean cvs update? ;-) soon, very soon. ;-) |
| 23:13.17 | Tupone | :) |
| 23:13.41 | TimRiker | probably want to make another 2.0 release to fix the nic buffer overflow. |
| 23:14.20 | blast007 | and the malformed command exploit |
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| 23:18.08 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch |
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| 23:22.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: I should have checked better my commit. Fix segv |
| 23:27.04 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Send variable status only to the first player of a shared connection |
| 23:27.51 | Tupone | mortage ? |
| 23:28.08 | trepan | pay now, or you'd better build a higher gate to save your a$$ |
| 23:28.16 | mbfg | death payment? |
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| 23:31.38 | JeffM2501 | cofin payments |
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| 23:56.28 | TD-Linux | ~lart Ice_Wewe |
| 23:56.36 | TD-Linux | need a better one |
| 23:56.41 | TD-Linux | ~lart Ice_Wewe |
| 23:56.45 | JeffM2501 | what did he do now? |
| 23:56.57 | TD-Linux | for the forums |
| 23:57.03 | TD-Linux | he said how to take a screenshot |
| 23:57.19 | JeffM2501 | and? |
| 23:57.21 | TD-Linux | start your map on your own local server, log in as observer, and take a shot (F12) |
| 23:57.27 | JeffM2501 | what thread? |
| 23:57.33 | TD-Linux | wait... |
| 23:57.40 | TD-Linux | oh, in size 8 font I found: |
| 23:57.43 | TD-Linux | hehe, it's really F5 |
| 23:57.49 | JeffM2501 | what thread? |
| 23:58.09 | TD-Linux | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6184 |
| 23:58.18 | TD-Linux | need a more fitting one still... |
| 23:58.22 | TD-Linux | ~lart Ice_Wewe |
| 23:58.45 | TD-Linux | hmmm... I think I need to go to #botpark |
| 23:59.05 | JeffM2501 | why even bother? |
| 23:59.07 | JeffM2501 | he's done for |
| 23:59.17 | TD-Linux | huh? |
| 23:59.45 | TD-Linux | oh, I see |
| 23:59.56 | TD-Linux | I'll post how to take screenshots |