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| 01:04.14 | brad2901 | spam at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5900 |
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| 01:18.19 | cosmos | hrm |
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| 01:19.32 | cosmos | jewish spam nice |
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| 01:54.01 | cosmos | hepcat is back to pillbox for good. either people play or they dont heh |
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| 01:55.03 | occy | moo |
| 01:55.05 | occy | :) |
| 01:55.26 | occy | anyone here use Ubuntu bzflag? |
| 01:56.28 | occy | I've got this: 0000:00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller (rev 04) |
| 01:56.33 | occy | and I'm getting some odd clipping |
| 01:57.10 | JeffM2501 | that would be because onboard intel video sucks |
| 01:57.25 | cosmos | haha |
| 01:57.53 | occy | heh |
| 01:57.55 | JeffM2501 | it really realy does |
| 01:57.57 | occy | it's a laptop. |
| 01:57.58 | JeffM2501 | I do not jest |
| 01:58.06 | JeffM2501 | has crapy drivers, and crapy performance |
| 01:58.15 | occy | :/ |
| 01:58.17 | occy | yeah |
| 01:58.48 | occy | did we ever get a mode in for bzflag that let's you use the radar full screen? (without using the viewport?) |
| 01:58.54 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:59.40 | occy | JeffM2501, so basicallly, I'm SOL |
| 01:59.52 | JeffM2501 | you can see if there are any better drivers for it |
| 01:59.55 | occy | the odd thing is, I can do some 3D stuff half-way decently |
| 02:00.03 | occy | with the default Ubuntu drivers |
| 02:00.03 | JeffM2501 | but if it can't do ceompilant GL, we can't make it better |
| 02:00.12 | occy | nod |
| 02:00.26 | occy | No, I totally understand it's not bzflag's fault. |
| 02:00.28 | JeffM2501 | the intel stuff often only implements some of the open GL spec |
| 02:00.39 | occy | Just wondered if others had the same chipset with any success |
| 02:00.42 | JeffM2501 | they are the worst video chipsets in the world |
| 02:00.57 | occy | JeffM2501, craptacular for me huh? |
| 02:00.57 | occy | :) |
| 02:01.00 | JeffM2501 | I'd rather have no video, because then at least software gets it RIGHT |
| 02:01.15 | JeffM2501 | every person who comes here with intel video has problems |
| 02:01.50 | occy | JeffM2501, I am guessing noone has fixed their problems, or you don't know about it if they have. |
| 02:02.08 | occy | google isn't turning up much ATM |
| 02:02.15 | JeffM2501 | the only way to "fix" them is to fix the drivers |
| 02:02.19 | JeffM2501 | and work around the problem |
| 02:02.26 | occy | hell, I don't need the viewport anyway when I'm playing ducati :) |
| 02:02.26 | JeffM2501 | hence why I say check for new drivers |
| 02:02.27 | occy | heh |
| 02:02.45 | occy | radar++ |
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| 03:06.49 | tinytank | whi |
| 03:06.51 | tinytank | hi |
| 03:07.07 | tinytank | how do u start a server? |
| 03:07.23 | tinytank | anyone? |
| 03:07.29 | tinytank | here? |
| 03:07.57 | Tupone | ~bzfs |
| 03:07.59 | ibot | it has been said that bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
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| 03:20.06 | tinytank | how do u put a server on a public list? |
| 03:20.23 | trepan | ~bzfs |
| 03:20.25 | ibot | methinks bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 03:20.39 | tinytank | thanks |
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| 04:21.03 | cosmol | sure there is. I have seen some funny nationwide bans in irc channels |
| 04:23.21 | SilentSwan | hah - my friend (who happily for me, works in a bookstore) got me this today: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0976694018/002-0768896-4272014?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance |
| 04:25.15 | SilentSwan | probably a recommended read for anyone thinking of IT careers... |
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| 05:27.59 | Smartkid | hello??? |
| 05:28.11 | Smartkid | anyone here |
| 05:28.38 | SilentSwan | no |
| 05:28.48 | Smartkid | lol |
| 05:28.55 | Thumper_ | nobody is home right now... leave your message at the sound of the *BEEP* |
| 05:29.02 | SilentSwan | _bubbles_ ... um... you on undernet by any chance? |
| 05:29.05 | Smartkid | hey im really new and need some help |
| 05:29.22 | SilentSwan | or a regular there? |
| 05:29.32 | SilentSwan | Smartkid what's up? |
| 05:29.39 | Smartkid | nothing much |
| 05:29.55 | Smartkid | right now im a dumbkid, i need some help |
| 05:30.00 | SilentSwan | so ask away |
| 05:30.05 | Smartkid | thanx |
| 05:30.25 | Smartkid | can this game be on a LAN network withour internet? |
| 05:30.35 | SilentSwan | yes |
| 05:30.46 | SilentSwan | when you start the client, you'll see an option to "Start Server" |
| 05:30.50 | Smartkid | ok adn how do i start a server then? |
| 05:30.51 | SilentSwan | that'll give you a default map |
| 05:30.56 | Smartkid | o... |
| 05:31.01 | Smartkid | i sec |
| 05:31.30 | Smartkid | see i have three computers and want to play lan with my bro |
| 05:31.32 | SilentSwan | this may be of help to you if you want to go a little further: http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
| 05:31.38 | SilentSwan | that should be no problem |
| 05:31.48 | Smartkid | when i look at it i dont see a start server... |
| 05:31.54 | SilentSwan | hang on |
| 05:31.59 | Smartkid | ok |
| 05:32.10 | SilentSwan | oh i'm sorry, go under the "Join Game" menu... last option |
| 05:32.15 | Smartkid | ok |
| 05:32.43 | Smartkid | ok its loading or something |
| 05:33.12 | Smartkid | it says server started, can i playon the computer i started the server on |
| 05:33.15 | SilentSwan | there's more here: http://www.sleepycows.org/how_to_bzfs.html and here: http://www.sleepycows.org/bz_on_XP.html |
| 05:33.20 | SilentSwan | i think so |
| 05:33.36 | Smartkid | ok |
| 05:33.54 | Smartkid | i was trying to do it with the dos prompt for some reason |
| 05:33.59 | SilentSwan | that works |
| 05:34.28 | Smartkid | well no it dident |
| 05:34.45 | Smartkid | or at least i think it dident |
| 05:34.51 | SilentSwan | well, check out those links... you should find everything you need |
| 05:35.01 | Smartkid | ok thanx |
| 05:35.05 | SilentSwan | i'm probably forgetting a few details, but they should be explained there |
| 05:35.06 | SilentSwan | np |
| 05:35.35 | Smartkid | this is a pretty ausome game |
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| 05:36.15 | SilentSwan | it's addicting too :) |
| 05:36.31 | SilentSwan | brb |
| 05:37.04 | Smartkid | right |
| 05:38.12 | Smartkid | hey i think it worked |
| 05:38.16 | SilentSwan | good :) |
| 05:39.05 | Smartkid | well sorta |
| 05:39.37 | Smartkid | the computer i made the server on works but the other one cant seem to find my game |
| 05:39.58 | SilentSwan | do you know the host name of the computer the server is running ong? |
| 05:40.00 | SilentSwan | on |
| 05:40.22 | Smartkid | o i know why |
| 05:40.33 | Smartkid | host isent spelled with n a lol |
| 05:40.58 | SilentSwan | m:) |
| 05:41.36 | Smartkid | bam done it worked |
| 05:41.43 | Smartkid | very fast i might add |
| 05:42.03 | SilentSwan | excellent |
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| 05:44.50 | SilentSwan | hi |
| 05:44.54 | RPG_ | hola |
| 05:45.03 | Smartkid | hello |
| 05:47.00 | Smartkid | dammit |
| 05:47.32 | Smartkid | i dont know how but i ended up on two different games |
| 05:47.41 | Smartkid | sry 4 language |
| 05:51.32 | Smartkid | ... |
| 05:51.58 | RPG_ | i have no clue what you mean |
| 05:51.59 | RPG_ | have an apple |
| 05:52.09 | blast007 | lol |
| 05:52.25 | Smartkid | lol |
| 05:52.26 | RPG_ | a special kid ruined our school play |
| 05:52.36 | Smartkid | that sucks |
| 05:52.44 | RPG_ | 'twas funny though! |
| 05:52.47 | SilentSwan | oh? so you found LIthium 2? |
| 05:52.55 | RPG_ | rofl |
| 05:53.00 | blast007 | http://www.bzflag.bz/tmp/WTF.jpg |
| 05:53.23 | SilentSwan | awwwww |
| 05:53.28 | Smartkid | lol |
| 05:54.05 | SilentSwan | i'm saving that.. that's too cute |
| 05:54.13 | Smartkid | is your callsign your name? |
| 05:54.16 | blast007 | ;) |
| 05:54.39 | RPG_ | yes, her name is Swan, Silent |
| 05:54.48 | SilentSwan | hehe |
| 05:54.52 | Smartkid | crap, my network hub just fell |
| 05:54.57 | SilentSwan | i'm not really a swan, just a goose with greying feathers |
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| 05:59.42 | Smartkid | sorry |
| 05:59.48 | blast007 | ;) |
| 06:00.13 | Smartkid | evedentially while trying to check my network cables i pulled my phone line outa the pc |
| 06:00.33 | SilentSwan | d'oh |
| 06:01.03 | RPG_ | phone line? |
| 06:01.17 | SilentSwan | i remember those |
| 06:01.22 | Smartkid | lol |
| 06:01.28 | Smartkid | dialupsucks i know |
| 06:01.44 | blast007 | make it stop! aaa! |
| 06:01.44 | SilentSwan | *&#$^^% NO CARRIER |
| 06:02.03 | RPG_ | quote of the day: "I fixed my exaust with a Coke can and some phone line" |
| 06:02.11 | SilentSwan | heh |
| 06:02.13 | Smartkid | see i have 3 pcs and a 32in plasma hooked up al on one side of a room, theres basicly cords everywhere |
| 06:02.26 | RPG_ | 32in plasma? |
| 06:02.28 | RPG_ | and dial up? |
| 06:02.31 | Smartkid | yep |
| 06:02.33 | SilentSwan | hah |
| 06:02.34 | RPG_ | where are your priorities? |
| 06:02.35 | Smartkid | LOLz |
| 06:02.48 | Smartkid | its not mine |
| 06:02.58 | Smartkid | its my grandpas i live with him |
| 06:03.14 | blast007 | sell it on eBay, and get high speed internet |
| 06:03.23 | blast007 | and replace it with a picture of a plasma screen |
| 06:03.25 | Smartkid | i cant afford that 1600$ tv |
| 06:03.27 | SilentSwan | haha |
| 06:03.46 | Smartkid | lol |
| 06:03.55 | SilentSwan | that's good enough for me. my tv is unplugged and in my basement |
| 06:04.16 | Smartkid | lol and to top it off im getting a laptop in about a week |
| 06:04.16 | RPG_ | woah, a life without TV? |
| 06:04.21 | SilentSwan | imagine |
| 06:04.29 | RPG_ | you must have the attention span of albert einstine! |
| 06:04.33 | SilentSwan | Smartkid i hope it's at least a powerbook :) |
| 06:04.37 | SilentSwan | RPG_ *giggle* |
| 06:04.42 | SilentSwan | i wish |
| 06:04.52 | SilentSwan | my attention span isn't quite what it used to be |
| 06:05.17 | Smartkid | lol |
| 06:05.22 | blast007 | my attention span is about this wide: | | |
| 06:05.30 | SilentSwan | wow |
| 06:05.34 | SilentSwan | that's good |
| 06:05.40 | blast007 | what was I talking about now? |
| 06:05.42 | Smartkid | alot of my friends call me a lucky bast$%# |
| 06:05.45 | SilentSwan | i forget |
| 06:06.00 | blast007 | I don't call 56k lucky :) |
| 06:06.01 | SilentSwan | my friends just give me funny looks |
| 06:06.15 | Smartkid | lol true 56k blows |
| 06:06.16 | blast007 | I'd rather have a 14" screen and broadband |
| 06:06.31 | RPG_ | I'd rather have a few thousand grand |
| 06:06.35 | Smartkid | but my grandparents / nor parents will get bb |
| 06:06.47 | SilentSwan | hmm... |
| 06:06.53 | SilentSwan | there must be a reason? |
| 06:06.56 | RPG_ | tell them the wonders of online bill paying |
| 06:07.01 | SilentSwan | yeah |
| 06:07.05 | SilentSwan | make them *want* it :) |
| 06:07.14 | Smartkid | but when i get my notebok ill just bum off of some wifi connection |
| 06:07.22 | SilentSwan | heh |
| 06:07.28 | RPG_ | say that it's for school or something |
| 06:07.31 | blast007 | just tweak the modem so it gets 300 baud downloads |
| 06:07.32 | SilentSwan | this is why i don't do wireless :) |
| 06:07.34 | RPG_ | that trick lways works |
| 06:07.35 | blast007 | they'll switch |
| 06:07.51 | Smartkid | ok ill try it |
| 06:07.58 | SilentSwan | i started on BBSs when 1200 was considered "state of the art" |
| 06:08.11 | Smartkid | u guys should see my forum |
| 06:08.32 | Smartkid | anyone know anything about HTML? |
| 06:08.36 | SilentSwan | a bit |
| 06:08.41 | Smartkid | ahh |
| 06:08.43 | blast007 | tons :) |
| 06:08.50 | Smartkid | well im pretty good at it |
| 06:09.06 | SilentSwan | web design was never my "thing" :) |
| 06:09.07 | Smartkid | right now im working on an matrix website |
| 06:09.18 | Smartkid | it looks grait |
| 06:10.07 | blast007 | SilentSwan: I can't say I'm the best at making nice looking designs, but I do enjoy doing the coding |
| 06:10.23 | blast007 | I should learn how to use the more advanced features of Photoshop |
| 06:10.41 | SilentSwan | yeah.. i just know how to do what i need to do in it |
| 06:10.49 | SilentSwan | both web design and photoshop |
| 06:10.50 | blast007 | yup |
| 06:10.55 | Smartkid | anyway if anyone want check out my chat forum, its an computer / HTML forum: http://htmb.myfreebb.com |
| 06:10.57 | SilentSwan | i never really got too into it |
| 06:11.08 | Smartkid | PS is ausome |
| 06:11.18 | Smartkid | but im to poor to afford it |
| 06:11.22 | SilentSwan | ah looks nice |
| 06:11.27 | Smartkid | so i just use my schools |
| 06:11.35 | Smartkid | my forum? |
| 06:11.38 | SilentSwan | i do photo editing, so i need it |
| 06:11.40 | SilentSwan | yeah |
| 06:12.01 | Smartkid | thanx |
| 06:12.13 | SilentSwan | actually, "photo editing" is a bit of an overstatement... more like "correcting the flaws inherent in digital cameras" |
| 06:12.24 | blast007 | I'll have to buy it someday...for now, its not worth it for what I do |
| 06:12.36 | blast007 | I don't do any commercial work, so no real income from it :/ |
| 06:12.44 | SilentSwan | didn't cost me anything |
| 06:12.53 | Smartkid | lol |
| 06:12.57 | SilentSwan | did i say that? oh my |
| 06:13.08 | Smartkid | what did u use filetopia? |
| 06:13.18 | SilentSwan | oh i forget... i get around |
| 06:13.34 | SilentSwan | honestly, if i were making an income from photography, i would gladly buy it legit |
| 06:13.40 | blast007 | yup |
| 06:13.54 | Smartkid | hey anyone know about proxys and how to get around blockers, im a pro at it |
| 06:13.56 | SilentSwan | and several have said i SHOULD make an income from photography |
| 06:13.59 | SilentSwan | but... i doubt i could |
| 06:14.09 | SilentSwan | anyway, brb |
| 06:14.39 | Smartkid | ? |
| 06:15.00 | blast007 | proxies are rather easy to use |
| 06:15.03 | Smartkid | rgege |
| 06:15.19 | *** join/#bzflag Smartkid (n=d84cd622@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 06:15.24 | blast007 | though think about it...the proxy can read everything you are doing :) |
| 06:15.31 | blast007 | you're sending all your traffic through them |
| 06:15.41 | Smartkid | sory pc jammed |
| 06:15.51 | Smartkid | dident hear anything u guys said |
| 06:16.14 | Smartkid | ya proxys are grait |
| 06:16.23 | Smartkid | i was a hero at my last school |
| 06:16.34 | blast007 | proxies aren't all that good |
| 06:16.42 | blast007 | many are slow |
| 06:16.46 | Smartkid | i was the only person that could get past the schools blocker |
| 06:17.33 | Smartkid | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.34 | Smartkid | . |
| 06:18.02 | Smartkid | anyway |
| 06:18.07 | blast007 | the kids in my high school used to install the winsock proxy client (or something like that) to get around it |
| 06:18.19 | SilentSwan | i remember the days when one could dial into my high-school's computers... the password was the princpal's last name:) |
| 06:18.25 | blast007 | lol |
| 06:18.31 | Smartkid | lol |
| 06:18.33 | SilentSwan | pathetic heh |
| 06:18.39 | Smartkid | ya |
| 06:18.47 | blast007 | yeah, funny how secure people think these days... |
| 06:18.57 | SilentSwan | this was circa 1990, so security wasn't a big thing then heh |
| 06:19.12 | SilentSwan | blast007 no... |
| 06:19.14 | SilentSwan | not at all |
| 06:19.20 | Smartkid | my last school wa on lockdown though, they had 3 different blockers, and the remote desktop so they can c what ur doing |
| 06:19.24 | SilentSwan | i've run crack on so many password files and found so many dumb passwords |
| 06:19.25 | SilentSwan | it's sad |
| 06:19.44 | SilentSwan | i got about 60% of the logins on an old ISP i had |
| 06:19.52 | Smartkid | wow |
| 06:19.57 | blast007 | I've played around with a rather powerful password 'recovery' tool |
| 06:20.04 | SilentSwan | they were foolish enough to be running NIS so getting the encrypted passwords was trivial |
| 06:20.05 | Smartkid | huh |
| 06:20.10 | blast007 | can sniff them over the network |
| 06:20.26 | blast007 | and uses ARP cache posioning to redirect traffic through your local machine |
| 06:20.27 | Smartkid | well the only hacker like thing iv ever done is the backdoor aroun the blocker |
| 06:20.33 | SilentSwan | blast007 cute :) |
| 06:21.09 | Smartkid | SilentSwan r u a boy or girl??? |
| 06:21.16 | SilentSwan | neither |
| 06:21.24 | Smartkid | ... |
| 06:21.26 | SilentSwan | hehe |
| 06:21.37 | SilentSwan | i'm a woman... too old to be considered a "girl" i'm afraid |
| 06:21.46 | Smartkid | o... |
| 06:22.00 | Smartkid | anyway |
| 06:22.00 | SilentSwan | those days are gone *cry* |
| 06:22.16 | SilentSwan | enjoy youth while you have it heh |
| 06:22.33 | Smartkid | yes mam |
| 06:22.37 | SilentSwan | :) |
| 06:24.32 | blast007 | oh yeah, that one 'tool' also has a VoIP recorder ;D |
| 06:24.38 | blast007 | still need to try that |
| 06:26.00 | blast007 | *pop* |
| 06:26.01 | Smartkid | nice |
| 06:26.51 | Smartkid | when you make a server how do you name it? |
| 06:27.04 | SilentSwan | whatever you wish |
| 06:27.15 | Smartkid | but where do u type it in |
| 06:27.33 | SilentSwan | oh.. it should be the computer's host name |
| 06:27.41 | SilentSwan | you don't actually type it in anywhere |
| 06:27.44 | Smartkid | arg |
| 06:27.51 | Smartkid | thats why its not working |
| 06:27.57 | SilentSwan | or IP address |
| 06:28.05 | blast007 | running the server in the command prompt? |
| 06:28.19 | Smartkid | no |
| 06:28.30 | blast007 | the 'start server' in-game isn't very good |
| 06:28.40 | blast007 | though it should work |
| 06:28.43 | JeffM2501 | it does not allow all options |
| 06:28.52 | blast007 | yup |
| 06:29.18 | Smartkid | woooooot!!! |
| 06:29.25 | Smartkid | got it i hope |
| 06:29.43 | JeffM2501 | starting a server isn't rocket science |
| 06:30.16 | Smartkid | well... |
| 06:30.35 | Smartkid | i cant think of a comeback for that =-( |
| 06:30.49 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to have a comeback for everthing |
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| 06:31.29 | Smartkid | woot i killed myself |
| 06:31.42 | JeffM2501 | thanks for sharing |
| 06:31.45 | Smartkid | ok so how do you lock on |
| 06:31.51 | SilentSwan | right click |
| 06:31.53 | JeffM2501 | right click |
| 06:32.08 | SilentSwan | yes! beat JeffM2501 by 2seconds :) |
| 06:32.17 | JeffM2501 | that you did |
| 06:32.44 | Smartkid | when i fire the bullet just mises |
| 06:32.51 | JeffM2501 | then aim better |
| 06:32.56 | JeffM2501 | only 1 shot locks on |
| 06:32.57 | JeffM2501 | GM |
| 06:33.05 | Smartkid | but if i lock on then i should hit it! |
| 06:33.18 | SilentSwan | Smartkid you mean guided missile, right? |
| 06:33.18 | JeffM2501 | lock only works with guided shots |
| 06:33.26 | JeffM2501 | and they have a limit to how far they can turn |
| 06:33.29 | JeffM2501 | people CAN dodge them |
| 06:33.37 | JeffM2501 | it's called "skill" |
| 06:33.39 | Smartkid | arg |
| 06:33.49 | Smartkid | im a major n00b at this |
| 06:33.57 | JeffM2501 | really? I could not tell |
| 06:34.04 | Smartkid | but the only way to get smart is to ask questions |
| 06:34.15 | JeffM2501 | or to just play and learn :) |
| 06:34.18 | Smartkid | so ok i think i got this |
| 06:34.39 | Smartkid | so how do i get a homming rocket and how do i fire it |
| 06:34.48 | Smartkid | the flags right |
| 06:34.48 | JeffM2501 | you would have to pick up the GM flag |
| 06:34.59 | JeffM2501 | then then it would turn your shots into missles |
| 06:35.11 | Smartkid | ok! |
| 06:35.18 | SilentSwan | didn't save my playlist |
| 06:35.54 | JeffM2501 | note that not all servers have the GM flag |
| 06:36.28 | Smartkid | ok anyone want to play me? |
| 06:36.46 | Smartkid | im gunna join the first server that pops up |
| 06:36.50 | blast007 | I'm sure someone on the first page or two of servers does |
| 06:37.01 | blast007 | it will show how many players on on a server |
| 06:37.05 | JeffM2501 | they are sorted by player counts |
| 06:37.07 | SilentSwan | Smartkid you're on dialup.. that won't work well |
| 06:37.24 | JeffM2501 | eww dialup |
| 06:37.27 | Smartkid | true |
| 06:37.31 | blast007 | SilentSwan: I used to play on 56k with only 180ms of lag on most servers :) |
| 06:37.41 | SilentSwan | ?? |
| 06:37.45 | blast007 | not too good, but good for 56k |
| 06:37.47 | SilentSwan | must've been nice dialup :) |
| 06:38.05 | SilentSwan | well, i've never tried on dialup, so... you may get lucky |
| 06:38.08 | blast007 | used to connect at like 53.3kbps |
| 06:38.57 | blast007 | http://the.cyber0ne.com:84/WTF/long_connection.png |
| 06:39.11 | SilentSwan | hah |
| 06:39.11 | blast007 | (and no, that's not edited) |
| 06:39.19 | SilentSwan | ew.. windows |
| 06:39.33 | JeffM2501 | dialup just needs to die |
| 06:39.45 | blast007 | definately |
| 06:40.18 | twogigovercu | dial up and windows go hand in hand both bad |
| 06:40.46 | JeffM2501 | every OS has it's strenghts |
| 06:41.18 | blast007 | one thing I like about Windows is Visual Studio |
| 06:41.23 | SilentSwan | ick |
| 06:41.28 | blast007 | aww :) |
| 06:41.34 | JeffM2501 | tain't nothing like it on nix sadly |
| 06:41.41 | JeffM2501 | kdev is ALLMOST there |
| 06:41.45 | JeffM2501 | maybe in another year |
| 06:41.47 | SilentSwan | i like kdevelop for poking around in large products |
| 06:41.55 | SilentSwan | but i edit with vi |
| 06:42.08 | JeffM2501 | visual studio is like kdev with about 10 years more dev time |
| 06:42.18 | twogigovercu | i use kwrite or nano |
| 06:42.21 | SilentSwan | and 10GB more bloat haha |
| 06:42.38 | blast007 | 10GB of documentation ;) |
| 06:42.40 | SilentSwan | vc doesn't even use makefiles... further complicating portability |
| 06:42.47 | JeffM2501 | SilentSwan, it's about the same size as kdev |
| 06:42.47 | blast007 | nmake? |
| 06:42.57 | JeffM2501 | yeah it can use nmake |
| 06:43.05 | SilentSwan | the only time i ever used VC was an old version in school |
| 06:43.08 | JeffM2501 | and if you use scons, the same build system can be used on ANY OS |
| 06:43.12 | JeffM2501 | SilentSwan, it's goten a LOT |
| 06:43.14 | JeffM2501 | better |
| 06:43.23 | SilentSwan | hmm.. i have a recent copy... will have to load it on a vm |
| 06:43.33 | JeffM2501 | vc is actualy more C++ compliant now the gcc |
| 06:44.00 | JeffM2501 | it is made for a difrent target tho, so it won't have every single feature of command line GCC |
| 06:44.36 | JeffM2501 | the linux IDEs just need to get the Integration part down, instead of relying on GDB |
| 06:44.44 | JeffM2501 | it's a limiting flaw right now |
| 06:44.49 | SilentSwan | what's wrong with gdb? |
| 06:44.50 | JeffM2501 | not good tool integration |
| 06:44.57 | JeffM2501 | nothing is wrong with it on it's own |
| 06:45.03 | SilentSwan | ah i see |
| 06:45.06 | JeffM2501 | it just don't have that many hooks for OTHER tools |
| 06:45.12 | SilentSwan | yeah |
| 06:45.16 | JeffM2501 | like going right to debug from valgrind error |
| 06:45.28 | JeffM2501 | you can call one from the other but not bidirectional |
| 06:45.38 | SilentSwan | yeah, there's a few little details like that that bug me |
| 06:45.39 | JeffM2501 | with a real integrated system you get a lot of flex |
| 06:45.47 | JeffM2501 | that's why I say give it a year or so |
| 06:45.53 | SilentSwan | but i'm still of the commandline individual tools school |
| 06:46.03 | SilentSwan | so it doesn't matter to me so much... but i agree with you |
| 06:46.21 | JeffM2501 | at some point the project management of a huge project gets hard in the command line interface |
| 06:46.28 | SilentSwan | yep |
| 06:46.29 | SilentSwan | very |
| 06:46.31 | JeffM2501 | what is a "large" project to you? |
| 06:46.38 | SilentSwan | i don't do large projects |
| 06:46.44 | JeffM2501 | well many people do :) |
| 06:46.48 | SilentSwan | yep |
| 06:47.13 | JeffM2501 | I do need to see if there is a shell CVS client like tort, for kde or gnome |
| 06:47.14 | SilentSwan | the worst thing i've ever had to deal with was this convoluted/obfuscated/downright INSANE build system that was used where i used to work |
| 06:47.20 | Smartkid | THATS WHY I ALWASE DIE! |
| 06:47.40 | blast007 | Smartkid: cuz you hit the delete key? |
| 06:47.43 | Smartkid | im on dial up, they have an advantage |
| 06:47.44 | SilentSwan | it was a hack of perl and shell scripts that made the phrase Spaghetti Code sound delicious |
| 06:47.46 | blast007 | ;) |
| 06:48.00 | SilentSwan | and that was life at SPSS |
| 06:48.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah there are some wacky build systems for ALL Oss out there there |
| 06:48.11 | blast007 | Smartkid: well, they find it harder to hit you as well, so it evens out a bit |
| 06:48.33 | blast007 | but still, if you are laggy, you'll be dead |
| 06:48.47 | SilentSwan | it's funny.. just about everyone i know who used SPSS in school or something always goes on about how they hated it :) |
| 06:48.49 | blast007 | run a /lagstats in the game to see what your lag is |
| 06:50.19 | JeffM2501 | just get DSL |
| 06:50.31 | Smartkid | is -27 good lol |
| 06:50.51 | blast007 | if you factor in absolute value, then yes |
| 06:51.02 | blast007 | :) |
| 06:52.22 | blast007 | kdev does indeed look interesting/promising |
| 06:52.46 | blast007 | might have to try that when I get a real linux box set up |
| 06:52.47 | SilentSwan | i wish the class inheritance browser were a bit more.. useful |
| 06:53.55 | JeffM2501 | it's better then it used to be |
| 06:54.03 | JeffM2501 | you can still tell it's a shell on GCC |
| 06:54.10 | blast007 | yeah, one of these days I'm gonna do gentoo |
| 06:54.14 | JeffM2501 | but it's good enough that I can use it |
| 06:54.20 | blast007 | got up to the bootloader once ;) |
| 06:54.22 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't import projects that well |
| 06:54.32 | SilentSwan | i've fallen in love with gentoo... it's similar to FreeBSD which i fell in love with a long time ago :) |
| 06:54.54 | SilentSwan | gentoo actually changed my views on linux to something more ... positive :) |
| 06:54.55 | SilentSwan | brb |
| 06:55.09 | blast007 | might even install it on my laptop I'm gonna be buying |
| 06:58.45 | SilentSwan | it was painful to load on my old Sun Ultra 10 though |
| 06:58.54 | SilentSwan | took a week to get everything built |
| 06:58.58 | SilentSwan | took a few hours on this computer :) |
| 07:00.26 | blast007 | I was doing it on a 700MHz PIII |
| 07:00.34 | SilentSwan | even that's better... |
| 07:00.40 | SilentSwan | my ultra 10 is 333MHz |
| 07:01.05 | SilentSwan | i'm presently on a slightly overclocked 2.4GHz amd64 |
| 07:01.14 | SilentSwan | that runs rings around faster intel x86 boxes |
| 07:01.52 | blast007 | it can kick intel chips in the face and the butt at the same time ;) |
| 07:01.59 | SilentSwan | something like that :) |
| 07:03.11 | SilentSwan | all i know is i have 2 3GHz intel boxes at work.. one running XP, the other gentoo. they are both noticeable slower, even with same RAM, SATA disk, etc... |
| 07:03.25 | SilentSwan | havn't done any benchmark tests, but it's amusing |
| 07:03.48 | blast007 | I still need to get an AMD system.. |
| 07:04.11 | SilentSwan | athlon 4000+... not too expensive and very good for the money |
| 07:04.11 | blast007 | when I build my next PC, it's gonna have a 939 board with a low end CPU |
| 07:04.21 | blast007 | that way I can upgrade to an X2 eventually |
| 07:04.27 | SilentSwan | i'm using the A8N-SLI board (Asus) |
| 07:04.36 | JeffM2501 | why low end? the 3500's are cheap as hell |
| 07:04.49 | SilentSwan | even the 4000+ isn't that much |
| 07:04.50 | blast007 | well, low end as in "not an X2" |
| 07:04.58 | SilentSwan | actually |
| 07:05.05 | SilentSwan | i was reading an article comparing amd processors |
| 07:05.08 | JeffM2501 | 3800x2 and mobo is like 350 |
| 07:05.16 | SilentSwan | the X2 doesn't give you quite the bang for the buck as the 4000+ |
| 07:05.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah the single cores are faster |
| 07:05.35 | JeffM2501 | for single thread tasks |
| 07:05.37 | JeffM2501 | by far |
| 07:05.54 | JeffM2501 | the fastest AMD chip is the FX line |
| 07:06.00 | blast007 | but I'm a multitasker, so I could probably use the X2 :) |
| 07:06.16 | SilentSwan | i may at some point up this box to dual processor |
| 07:06.17 | JeffM2501 | the dual cores feel faster |
| 07:06.29 | SilentSwan | but for the time being, i hardly need it |
| 07:06.48 | SilentSwan | i can run XP and other linux distros in VMWare as well as if they were running natively.. i'm happy |
| 07:06.55 | JeffM2501 | a 3500 is the same as a single core 3800x2 |
| 07:07.05 | SilentSwan | but being able to allocate a cpu to a VM is a nice thing |
| 07:07.32 | SilentSwan | the 3700+ has a 1MB cache... another nice thing... and the 4000+ as well |
| 07:07.42 | SilentSwan | L2 |
| 07:18.10 | Smartkid | bie |
| 07:19.41 | SilentSwan | *grin* http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/08/12/thou_art_no_romeo/ |
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| 08:09.53 | SilentSwan | anyone happen to know what image format windows icons are in? |
| 08:19.30 | _Manu_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICO_(icon_image_file_format) |
| 08:19.58 | _Manu_ | SilentSwan, read up |
| 08:21.09 | SilentSwan | hm... i'm guessing windows isn't smart enough to use a simple png or jpg, etc...? |
| 08:21.30 | _Manu_ | heh.. yes but they used his own format |
| 08:22.02 | SilentSwan | hmm |
| 08:22.27 | _Manu_ | usually they works in that way.. |
| 08:22.37 | SilentSwan | yeah, i've noticed *grr* |
| 08:22.52 | SilentSwan | every day, one more reason to despise microsoft, and i don't even use their products |
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| 15:19.48 | Birdie | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5908 |
| 15:19.53 | Birdie | ugh remove that? |
| 15:22.40 | SportChick | ~work brlcad |
| 15:22.42 | ibot | ACTION looks over the shoulder of brlcad to see what needs to be done and then sets the elves to work getting it all done so brlcad can play bzflag |
| 15:24.58 | brlcad | heh |
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| 15:52.40 | Jo-W | mm |
| 15:54.24 | Jo-W | why is my meshbox' texture messed up :/ |
| 15:56.35 | jpa- | because the textures are evil :) |
| 15:56.38 | Jo-W | http://www.audiorhoon.nl/temp/bah.jpg , at one side its texture is just as long as the other side, but it is streched |
| 15:56.47 | Jo-W | im not even defining any textures |
| 15:57.25 | Jo-W | all i have is meshbox size 85 5 20 end |
| 15:57.29 | Jo-W | :/ |
| 15:58.47 | Jo-W | the Y side texture is the same as the X side, but it stretches at the Y side |
| 16:04.23 | Jo-W | bah >_> |
| 16:08.57 | jpa- | looks just fine IMHO |
| 16:08.59 | Aribeth | uvmapping, uvmapping |
| 16:09.08 | jpa- | or |
| 16:09.17 | jpa- | ah, it is just so dark i did not notice |
| 16:09.55 | jpa- | use bzmap, it handles textures nicely :) |
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| 16:15.19 | spldart | grr... whateva this e2fsprog thing is I think I hate it :) |
| 16:16.04 | jpa- | seems almost every apt user has that problem :P |
| 16:17.16 | gsnedders | what forum should I post a OS X build of 2.0.5? |
| 16:17.43 | spldart | it's a first time for me |
| 16:17.58 | spldart | an266vm mobo but same exact deb sarge |
| 16:18.12 | spldart | decided that the kids should have a dual boot machine too :) |
| 16:20.33 | spldart | I had to go to /etc/apt/ configuration and changed from testing to sarge.... then re update, upgrade then I was able to move on setting up the install |
| 16:21.14 | jpa- | dist_upgrade is probably the preferred method |
| 16:21.35 | jpa- | or dist-upgrade, can't remember |
| 16:22.57 | spldart | I don't normally run upgrade or update... I finish the sarge base install then go straight to an appropriate new kernel then x window then gnome |
| 16:23.01 | spldart | but meh |
| 16:23.03 | spldart | hehe |
| 16:25.15 | menotume | ToughShooter: pong :) |
| 16:29.03 | gsnedders | :) |
| 16:29.51 | ToughShooter | heh, that was a long network latency ;) |
| 16:33.14 | Aribeth | lag |
| 16:34.34 | jpa- | possibly jitter too |
| 16:35.07 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 16:35.45 | Aribeth | dialup perhaps :P |
| 16:36.14 | jpa- | or just laggy fingers |
| 16:36.38 | Aribeth | heh |
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| 16:37.00 | Aribeth | nic card glitch |
| 16:37.26 | Aribeth | user error 37 |
| 16:37.30 | Aribeth | :P |
| 16:38.01 | jpa- | !lart menotume to fix lag |
| 16:38.22 | Aribeth | ouch |
| 16:38.24 | jpa- | lol, that got a whole new meaning :D |
| 16:39.01 | Aribeth | heh, ya |
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| 16:59.27 | Jo-W | mm back to 1.x boxes |
| 17:00.11 | jpa- | :D |
| 17:00.23 | jpa- | but that is quite strange |
| 17:00.30 | jpa- | boxes should not be broken like that |
| 17:00.35 | jpa- | what client version? |
| 17:01.40 | jpa- | and is that meshbox size 85 5 20 end really all you have? |
| 17:05.14 | Jo-W | yes |
| 17:05.17 | Jo-W | just an empty file |
| 17:05.22 | Jo-W | and thats the only thing in it |
| 17:05.37 | Jo-W | client version 2.0.5 |
| 17:06.13 | Jo-W | it only happends with meshboxes |
| 17:06.20 | Jo-W | not with normal :/ |
| 17:06.52 | Jo-W | well not normal, old boxes |
| 17:06.53 | jpa- | hmm yeah |
| 17:06.54 | Jo-W | :p |
| 17:07.00 | jpa- | strange, haven't noticed that before |
| 17:07.18 | Jo-W | it happends to all boxes in my map |
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| 17:08.33 | jpa- | strange.. maybe something has changed in the new version |
| 17:08.42 | Jo-W | lemme test in old version :) |
| 17:08.55 | Jo-W | 2.0.4 that is |
| 17:09.02 | jpa- | i tested with 2.0.4 |
| 17:09.13 | jpa- | same thing |
| 17:09.31 | jpa- | possibly it has always been like that, trepan would know |
| 17:10.11 | Jo-W | yup same |
| 17:10.51 | jpa- | there is something about texsize, it might help: http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/textures.php |
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| 17:11.34 | jpa- | and bzmap should handle it by itself: http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/bzmap.php :) |
| 17:12.36 | Jo-W | bzmap seems harder then making a map with notepad |
| 17:12.38 | Jo-W | :p |
| 17:12.58 | Jo-W | mm texsize is the size of the texture.png right |
| 17:13.06 | Jo-W | one block of texture thingie |
| 17:16.00 | jpa- | well maybe than with notepad, because that implies you are on windoze :) |
| 17:16.47 | Jo-W | actually i use editpad |
| 17:16.56 | Jo-W | but i dont think you know that editor :) |
| 17:17.21 | Jo-W | regex search, etc |
| 17:19.22 | jpa- | i do know it, from while back |
| 17:19.50 | Jo-W | oh ok |
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| 17:20.30 | Jo-W | its really usefull if you have 300 boxes and you decide you want to make them all 10 higher |
| 17:20.37 | jpa- | on *nix bzmap is not much harder to use than making with a text editor |
| 17:20.47 | jpa- | well that one could do also with bzmap :) |
| 17:20.52 | jpa- | much more easily :P |
| 17:20.57 | Jo-W | /size\s(\d+)\s(\d+)\s(\d+)/ :p |
| 17:21.09 | jpa- | ack |
| 17:21.17 | Jo-W | lol |
| 17:22.04 | jpa- | s/[A-Z][a-z-]{2}[A-Z]// |
| 17:22.14 | jpa- | bah too pretty |
| 17:22.34 | Thumper_ | s/.*// |
| 17:22.55 | jpa- | s/:E// |
| 17:23.08 | jpa- | and they've been trying to remove evilness from the world this long |
| 17:23.21 | Thumper_ | jpa-: but that only works on self |
| 17:23.23 | Jo-W | =~ s/size\s(\d+)\s(\d+)\s(\d+)/size $1 $2 20/g |
| 17:23.37 | Jo-W | $ |
| 17:24.10 | jpa- | what is not going to happen? :) |
| 17:24.30 | Aribeth | removing evilness from the world |
| 17:24.48 | Jo-W | that isnt to hard |
| 17:24.59 | Jo-W | if you destroy the entire world.. |
| 17:25.00 | Aribeth | in theory |
| 17:25.26 | jpa- | just remove all niceness and negate it |
| 17:25.46 | Aribeth | it dont work that way |
| 17:26.14 | Jo-W | another way is to change ur perspective of "evil" |
| 17:26.24 | Aribeth | never |
| 17:26.43 | brlcad | ~lart Jo-W for using perl regex extensions |
| 17:26.57 | jpa- | ouch |
| 17:26.58 | Aribeth | oh no |
| 17:27.08 | jpa- | haha, i got to say "ouch" before Aribeth did! |
| 17:27.09 | Jo-W | lol |
| 17:27.14 | ToughShooter | PCRE is nice :( |
| 17:27.23 | Jo-W | perl is the best way to do such text crap |
| 17:27.26 | Jo-W | :) |
| 17:27.36 | Aribeth | i wasnt gona say ouch :P |
| 17:28.45 | Jo-W | mm this safety setting in ZONE sound interesting |
| 17:29.13 | jpa- | ~lart Aribeth |
| 17:29.20 | Jo-W | so if i drop a flag it always flies to the zone? |
| 17:29.21 | Aribeth | yummm |
| 17:29.35 | jpa- | Jo-W: it is only for teamflags |
| 17:29.42 | Jo-W | i know |
| 17:29.47 | Jo-W | i meant team flags :) |
| 17:29.56 | jpa- | and no |
| 17:30.06 | jpa- | only if it is dropped on a surface it can't fall on |
| 17:30.06 | Jo-W | doh |
| 17:30.10 | Jo-W | oh |
| 17:30.13 | Aribeth | ~lart jpa- |
| 17:30.17 | Jo-W | pyramids and stuff |
| 17:30.21 | Aribeth | :) |
| 17:31.00 | Jo-W | ibot literal ~lart |
| 17:31.14 | Jo-W | ~spell literal |
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| 17:32.39 | brlcad | perl is great for text processing junk, but avoiding their extensions is a "good thing" when in company ;) |
| 17:33.33 | Aribeth | perl is good for creating dynamic web pages too, but regex??? |
| 17:34.07 | jpa- | "regular" expressions |
| 17:34.35 | Aribeth | ya, i would be carefull with them in perl |
| 17:34.47 | Aribeth | shell script ok |
| 17:34.52 | brlcad | if you're only in perl, there's no point in avoiding them ;) |
| 17:35.18 | Aribeth | ya |
| 17:35.27 | brlcad | when "sharing" regex's with others though.. if you want any hope of the regex working, posix regex's should be used ;) |
| 17:35.38 | Aribeth | true |
| 17:35.40 | brlcad | albeit slightly more typing for character classes |
| 17:36.04 | Aribeth | regex's arn't always portable |
| 17:40.54 | brlcad | posix ones are at least to posix-conforming tools (which many/most are theses days) |
| 17:41.53 | Jo-W | lol i was talking about texsize |
| 17:42.03 | brlcad | the biggest mixup I usually see people make is understanding the distinction between all the various tools and their need to escape certain characters |
| 17:42.07 | Jo-W | and now every ended up at posix |
| 17:42.31 | Aribeth | yep |
| 17:54.30 | brlcad | anyone remember what a bzw unit of 1 roughly corresponds to? |
| 17:55.04 | Aribeth | nope |
| 17:56.01 | Jo-W | default tank height is 2.05 units right |
| 17:56.58 | Jo-W | doh.. |
| 17:57.00 | Jo-W | :p |
| 17:58.17 | Jo-W | most tanks are about 3 meters |
| 17:59.04 | Jo-W | so if you know a tanks height in bzflag in units |
| 17:59.16 | Jo-W | in those units.. |
| 18:01.44 | brlcad | an m1a1 is about 8 feet or 2.4 meters tall, I believe that is a close approximation to presume |
| 18:03.46 | longhair | you can find default values for any server variable by using /set without any arguments, or you could find default _tankHeight by typing /set _tankHeight |
| 18:05.03 | brlcad | longhair: not really interested in server values, interested in the "real world" correspondance to the units |
| 18:05.17 | brlcad | we calculated it a long while back, but I just don't remember |
| 18:07.21 | brlcad | ibot: 2.4384 / 2.05 |
| 18:07.23 | ibot | 1.189463414634 |
| 18:09.33 | brlcad | what's suspicious is I could easily see someone thinking of a tank as being about 10 feet tall, converting to 3.05 meeters -- over time someone could have shrunk them to 2.05 to make them fit better on the field |
| 18:10.05 | brlcad | implying that there 'should' have been a 1-1 correspondence with meters |
| 18:14.37 | Chestal | gravity is -9.8, doesn't that imply meters? |
| 18:14.54 | Chestal | if we assume normal gravity and time, that is |
| 18:15.37 | jpa- | maybe time is in bzflag units too :) |
| 18:16.12 | jpa- | has anyone implemented einsteins theories for bzflag yet? ,) |
| 18:17.21 | brlcad | Chestal: good point |
| 18:18.01 | brlcad | strengthens the 3.05 theory of mine there too.. that +0.05 is suspect :) |
| 18:18.08 | longhair | I believe that acceleration due to gravity is 9.8mps^2 so probably |
| 18:18.58 | longhair | I remember hearing that the "unit" in bzflag is more or less _supposed_ to be a meter.... |
| 18:20.48 | Jo-W | hehe: -set _gravity -9.81309 |
| 18:21.08 | brlcad | heh, yeah, that can be fun |
| 18:23.06 | brlcad | that probably should be a signed value so it intuitively counters the jump velocity value |
| 18:23.24 | brlcad | instead of just being a magnitude with implied direction down |
| 18:23.52 | brlcad | or add a variable for the gravity vector |
| 18:24.40 | blast007 | _windSpeed ;) |
| 18:33.40 | Jo-W | _thunder |
| 18:34.10 | blast007 | /set _blastCannotDie 1 |
| 18:36.18 | *** join/#bzflag Thonolan (n=Thonolan@iD4CC0026.versanet.de) |
| 18:46.15 | Aribeth | all hail to our god blast007 |
| 18:46.22 | Aribeth | :P |
| 18:46.47 | jpa- | Thumper_'s server said today "jpa is protected from being killed" :) |
| 18:47.41 | jpa- | :( |
| 18:47.48 | Aribeth | jk |
| 18:49.08 | jpa- | yeah right :( |
| 18:49.15 | jpa- | everyone is being mean with me :( |
| 18:50.06 | brlcad | at least they're being mean with you and not to you |
| 18:50.15 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 18:50.27 | ToughShooter | to place a gras mesh at the ground and scale it to fit height |
| 18:52.56 | jpa- | oops that was Ari's finger >:| |
| 18:53.10 | Aribeth | no way jose! |
| 18:54.34 | Aribeth | ~sleep jpa- for bitting Ari's finger |
| 18:54.35 | ibot | ACTION sends jpa- for bitting Ari's finger to bed without supper |
| 18:55.11 | Aribeth | hummm....kinda got mixed up there |
| 18:55.43 | jpa- | what is supper? |
| 18:56.31 | Aribeth | see, i try to be nice and i get bit for it :P |
| 18:57.07 | jpa- | sowwy |
| 18:57.38 | jpa- | i just can't help having this finger-bitting fetish |
| 18:58.55 | jpa- | oh it was a grape |
| 18:59.10 | jpa- | looks a bit like your nose |
| 19:00.50 | jpa- | no |
| 19:00.54 | jpa- | don't hit the dog! |
| 19:00.55 | Aribeth | yes |
| 19:01.05 | jpa- | one may not hit the dog |
| 19:01.08 | jpa- | newa |
| 19:02.23 | *** join/#bzflag |zongo| (n=zongo@lsn-boi-catv-c114-p223.vtx.ch) |
| 19:03.49 | ToughShooter | noone like my ideas :/ |
| 19:06.02 | *** join/#bzflag Thumper_ (n=bernt@CPE000102d0fe75-CM0012256ecbde.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:10.53 | jpa- | thanks but i've had enough |
| 19:13.28 | Aribeth | since jpa- has been a good sport |
| 19:13.38 | Aribeth | ~jpa-++ |
| 19:15.00 | jpa- | :o |
| 19:17.07 | *** part/#bzflag Thonolan (n=Thonolan@iD4CC0026.versanet.de) |
| 19:24.22 | Jo-W | karma? |
| 19:24.30 | Jo-W | ibot karma jpa- |
| 19:24.30 | ibot | jpa- has karma of 2 |
| 19:28.26 | Aribeth | ~karma Aribeth |
| 19:28.26 | ibot | aribeth has karma of 26 |
| 19:28.43 | Birdie | ~karma birdie |
| 19:28.43 | ibot | birdie has karma of 26 |
| 19:28.47 | Birdie | lol |
| 19:28.52 | Birdie | we are as nice:)p |
| 19:29.01 | Aribeth | :) |
| 19:29.09 | cosmos | heh |
| 19:29.33 | Birdie | is that a compliment for me, or an insult for you |
| 19:30.15 | Aribeth | im just smiling |
| 19:30.39 | Birdie | :) |
| 19:31.23 | brlcad | ~birdie++ |
| 19:31.27 | brlcad | ~aribeth++ |
| 19:31.28 | brlcad | :) |
| 19:31.35 | Ice_Wewe | ~brlcad++ |
| 19:31.40 | Ice_Wewe | ~aribeth++ |
| 19:31.44 | Aribeth | :) |
| 19:31.51 | Ice_Wewe | ~karma Aribeth |
| 19:31.51 | ibot | aribeth has karma of 28 |
| 19:31.57 | Ice_Wewe | ~karma Ice_Wewe |
| 19:31.57 | ibot | ice_wewe has karma of 2 |
| 19:32.01 | Ice_Wewe | :( |
| 19:32.15 | Aribeth | ~Ice_Wewe++ |
| 19:32.19 | Ice_Wewe | :) |
| 19:32.28 | Ice_Wewe | bah |
| 19:32.32 | Ice_Wewe | I was using that chanserv! |
| 19:32.50 | brlcad | so you're saying you broke chanserv |
| 19:32.51 | Aribeth | wow, you crashed chanserv |
| 19:34.04 | Ice_Wewe | hehe oops |
| 19:34.24 | cosmos | ice_wewe you have caused quite a stir on the forums |
| 19:35.01 | Ice_Wewe | cosmos: yea, I know... I just need a huge scandal to get me some media time every once in a while... |
| 19:35.35 | blast007 | yay! |
| 19:36.07 | blast007 | * Ice_Wewe has quit (Connection reset by rope) |
| 19:36.19 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
| 19:36.25 | Aribeth | roflmao! |
| 19:36.34 | Ice_Wewe | ~blast007++ |
| 19:36.44 | blast007 | ~karma blast007 |
| 19:36.44 | ibot | blast007 has karma of 47 |
| 19:37.01 | Aribeth | well, Ice_Wewe, if you would not have pulled away so hard....:P |
| 19:37.28 | Aribeth | ~blast007++ |
| 19:37.35 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: if you would have not wanted to keep me that much |
| 19:38.00 | Aribeth | i didnt, you were running away from the scine |
| 19:38.03 | blast007 | if man had not discovered how to make rope... |
| 19:39.22 | brlcad | ! Ice_Wewe n=Ice_Wewe@ppp-216-106-101-182.storm.ca has quit Run error: 105 (Connection roped by peer) |
| 19:39.23 | Guu | brlcad: Don't worry, I'm sure you'll figure it out someday. |
| 19:39.30 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
| 19:40.31 | Ice_Wewe | sure, NOW you tell me |
| 19:40.46 | Aribeth | heh |
| 19:41.08 | Aribeth | thats what happens when you miss staff meetings :P |
| 19:41.09 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@host-84-222-137-139.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 19:41.23 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: :P |
| 19:41.29 | Ice_Wewe | ~Aribeth++ |
| 19:41.32 | blast007 | so if he pulls really hard, he'll be dividing in half :) |
| 19:41.33 | Aribeth | :) |
| 19:41.40 | Aribeth | yep |
| 19:42.00 | Aribeth | then i'll say "is there a doctor in the house?" |
| 19:42.16 | Aribeth | ouch |
| 19:42.24 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
| 19:42.49 | Aribeth | oh no, the bullet train ic comeing up from behind fast :P |
| 19:42.53 | Ice_Wewe | the faster I get away from the male deprived Aribeth the better, don't you think blast007? |
| 19:43.15 | Aribeth | oooooooooo |
| 19:43.16 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: well, half of you got away...your legs |
| 19:43.21 | Ice_Wewe | all she has is staff meetings, and those aren't known for keeping peoples sanity |
| 19:43.23 | Aribeth | ~lart Ice_Wewe |
| 19:43.35 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: well, atleast the important bits got away |
| 19:43.46 | Aribeth | ~lart Ice_Wewe |
| 19:43.55 | blast007 | lol |
| 19:44.00 | blast007 | that sure if fitting |
| 19:44.09 | Aribeth | lol |
| 19:44.12 | Aribeth | yep |
| 19:44.17 | blast007 | is* |
| 19:45.24 | blast007 | whoops! |
| 19:45.30 | Ice_Wewe | NOOOOO! |
| 19:45.39 | Aribeth | ooooo thats gona leave a mark |
| 19:45.47 | blast007 | two of the actually |
| 19:45.51 | blast007 | them* |
| 19:45.53 | Ice_Wewe | hehe ) |
| 19:45.55 | Aribeth | yep |
| 19:46.15 | Aribeth | 4, here comes the bullet train |
| 19:46.36 | cosmol | Ice_Wewe: I accept you apology and am sorry I made a big deal out of it. I was really angry, I let things get to me too easily sometimes |
| 19:46.43 | Ice_Wewe | The scream that woke the world |
| 19:47.01 | Ice_Wewe | cosmol: dude, same here, I wanted to kill you... |
| 19:47.04 | Ice_Wewe | oh wait |
| 19:47.11 | Ice_Wewe | replace wanted with want (lol) |
| 19:47.21 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: that's mean! |
| 19:47.32 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: Romeo and the #4 Bullet Train |
| 19:47.49 | Aribeth | j/k |
| 19:48.06 | Aribeth | it was a small bullet train. HO scale |
| 19:48.22 | cosmol | ok, you are confusing me Ice_Wewe |
| 19:48.45 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: hehe, how did you know? |
| 19:48.52 | Ice_Wewe | cosmol: just kidding, sorry man |
| 19:50.19 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: that wasn't very nice! |
| 19:50.42 | *** join/#bzflag ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 19:50.42 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net |
| 19:50.59 | blast007 | lol |
| 19:52.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 19:53.20 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 19:53.21 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 19:53.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 19:58.37 | ToughShooter | Aribeth: Do you still have the flag config from Spheres mini? |
| 19:58.49 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Ciao ;) |
| 19:59.01 | Aribeth | i should have it |
| 19:59.09 | ToughShooter | Can you give it to me please |
| 19:59.22 | Aribeth | let me see if i can find it |
| 20:00.34 | Tupone | ToughShooter: Hallo |
| 20:00.37 | cosmos | good old pillbox |
| 20:01.20 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Could it be that I gave whole world shell access yesterday? :o |
| 20:01.45 | cosmos | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5912 |
| 20:01.59 | Tupone | yep, it could be. Why you asked? |
| 20:02.12 | Tupone | you should have stopped sshd after |
| 20:02.49 | Tupone | and reset firewall |
| 20:02.59 | Tupone | chat is not secure |
| 20:03.08 | cosmos | he gave out shell access?! |
| 20:03.10 | cosmos | teehee |
| 20:03.32 | ToughShooter | I am just curious |
| 20:03.45 | ToughShooter | not that I would have any important data on this machine |
| 20:04.26 | cosmos | KILLER_1 kept asking for shell acccess to my hepcat server |
| 20:04.30 | cosmos | thats why hes banned for life |
| 20:04.45 | ToughShooter | cosmos: My machine is not a game server :) |
| 20:06.43 | cosmos | even better |
| 20:07.23 | cosmol | KILLER_1 was one of the admins that was giving me grief on solarcat :( |
| 20:07.27 | ToughShooter | I remember star wars and killer_1 kept asking me for passwords on several servers, that was so funny |
| 20:07.46 | cosmos | yes killer_1 needs to be deregistered and global banned IMHO |
| 20:07.49 | ToughShooter | yeah, along with "the_sun" and "Dvn", IIRC |
| 20:08.08 | cosmol | btw are registered call-signs case sensitive |
| 20:08.12 | Tupone | why deregistered?, we could ban better if he kept registered :) |
| 20:08.20 | ToughShooter | if you look at #bzchat the owner asked how he can come in again |
| 20:08.22 | blast007 | I think we can ban by userid now too |
| 20:08.32 | ToughShooter | he was unable to join at his server :) |
| 20:08.35 | cosmos | i have to update cvs |
| 20:08.54 | cosmol | Because I am thinking about becoming Cosmol so I'm not confused with cosmos so much |
| 20:09.07 | cosmos | yeah heh |
| 20:09.12 | ToughShooter | ~Aribeth++ |
| 20:09.23 | Aribeth | ~karma Aribeth |
| 20:09.23 | ibot | aribeth has karma of 30 |
| 20:09.27 | Aribeth | :)) |
| 20:09.33 | Birdie | grrr:) |
| 20:09.38 | cosmos | some guy came yelling at me on my server about how i shouldnt impersonate you cosmol |
| 20:09.40 | Aribeth | lol |
| 20:09.43 | Ice_Wewe | ~Birdie++ |
| 20:09.49 | Ice_Wewe | ~karma birdie |
| 20:09.49 | ibot | birdie has karma of 28 |
| 20:09.51 | Ice_Wewe | :P |
| 20:09.56 | Ice_Wewe | ~karma Ice_Wewe |
| 20:09.56 | ibot | ice_wewe has karma of 3 |
| 20:09.59 | Ice_Wewe | beats mine |
| 20:09.59 | cosmol | lol I am sorry cosmos, and I swear i was cosmol long before I knew you were around |
| 20:10.09 | Ice_Wewe | cosmol: that's what they all say... |
| 20:10.12 | cosmos | likewise |
| 20:10.29 | Ice_Wewe | cosmol: I came out with Wewe, 3 days later, wewewewew was created, by someone else |
| 20:10.32 | cosmos | lets see, i first used this as my unix login in 1988 |
| 20:10.43 | cosmos | my how time flies |
| 20:10.46 | cosmol | ok, you have me beat I used it in a MUD in 95 |
| 20:12.58 | Jo-W | ibot spell boundaries |
| 20:15.02 | Ice_Wewe | may be? oh thats a useful script |
| 20:16.43 | Jo-W | aspell |
| 20:18.29 | Jo-W | mm wasent there a way to hide an object from the radar |
| 20:21.09 | Ice_Wewe | stop it... seriously |
| 20:21.25 | Ice_Wewe | I'm gonna register that nick if you don't cease and disest.... hehe |
| 20:22.18 | Cosmol | sorry, i am fooling around with NIckserv |
| 20:23.20 | Jo-W | nvm found it, "noradar" in material def |
| 20:25.13 | cosmos | how do you register a nick anyhow |
| 20:25.34 | Cosmol | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.41 | *** join/#bzflag lala (n=50917638@genesis.concept69.de) |
| 20:27.07 | lala | need help! :D |
| 20:27.07 | Jo-W | /ns help register |
| 20:27.15 | Cosmol | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup |
| 20:27.21 | blast007 | ~ask |
| 20:27.23 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Remember, we're all volunteers. Please don't /msg people without permission. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 20:27.59 | lala | need someone who can help me with my bzconfig (windows) |
| 20:28.12 | blast007 | ask the question, and maybe we can help ya :) |
| 20:29.27 | lala | ok can i switch the coulor of the walls on the radar transparent? Cauz my radar is big and transparent, only the wlls not they cover the tanks and shots on my scrren, i did it vauz im more a scrren player as radar |
| 20:30.26 | blast007 | the border on the radar? |
| 20:30.31 | blast007 | not that I know of |
| 20:31.36 | lala | nah not the border, the walls :) |
| 20:31.56 | lala | they are red |
| 20:32.14 | lala | and thats the prob they cover much in the creen view |
| 20:32.32 | lala | nso i want the walls transparent, that i can see throuugh the walls on my rdar |
| 20:32.47 | lala | nnot the walls on the screen, only on my radar |
| 20:33.18 | Ice_Wewe | ??? |
| 20:33.35 | lala | nthe objects |
| 20:33.38 | Ice_Wewe | red means phydrv death |
| 20:33.42 | Aribeth | man that would drive me nutz |
| 20:33.44 | Tupone | bthansen ?? who is he ? |
| 20:34.14 | Ice_Wewe | lala just press Q and get rid of the radar if it's bugging you so much |
| 20:34.16 | Jo-W | lala: you can always turn the radar off |
| 20:34.46 | blast007 | Tupone: Thumper_ |
| 20:35.00 | lala | thats a bad idea first q isnt not radar off, second i need it the whole time ;) |
| 20:35.13 | Ice_Wewe | lala: yes it is |
| 20:35.19 | Ice_Wewe | lala: then deal with it |
| 20:35.24 | lala | nnot if i changed it ;) |
| 20:35.34 | Ice_Wewe | lala: I can't work in this kind of environment |
| 20:35.49 | Ice_Wewe | lala: if you continue to not want my help, I can continue to not give it |
| 20:36.15 | blast007 | 'q' by default is 'toggle radar' |
| 20:36.31 | blast007 | of course, if you changed that, we can't read your config from here to know |
| 20:36.37 | lala | ya but that was not an answer of my question, opnly a good idea |
| 20:36.51 | lala | q is my second shot! |
| 20:36.56 | blast007 | mine too |
| 20:36.59 | lala | nso! |
| 20:37.04 | blast007 | ~n |
| 20:37.05 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much |
| 20:37.07 | lala | :) |
| 20:37.25 | lala | ;P cant be |
| 20:37.42 | Ice_Wewe | oh boy, a bunch of Qties |
| 20:37.50 | blast007 | anyway, the radar isn't designed for full screen, though I still don't know what you are talking about |
| 20:37.52 | Ice_Wewe | *shiver* I like the ole enter way |
| 20:37.59 | blast007 | could you get us a screenshot of the problem? |
| 20:38.13 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: some windows clients have a bug where the radar spills over onto the regular screen |
| 20:38.59 | lala | lol i think my english is to bad to say what my prob is :) or so LOL |
| 20:38.59 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: not that I use windows *looks left, the right, then jumps out a nearby window* |
| 20:39.10 | blast007 | sounds more like a video card issue than a windows issue |
| 20:39.28 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: no, it's BZFlag, the video card doesn't decide where things go |
| 20:39.39 | lala | hell! the walls(objects on my rdar) cover the tanks or shots in the screen view |
| 20:39.44 | lala | nthats all LOL :) |
| 20:40.02 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: mine decides to put red tank treads on blue tanks, so yes, the video card DOES decide where things go :P |
| 20:40.19 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: hehe, probably Windows |
| 20:40.22 | blast007 | nope |
| 20:40.24 | blast007 | in linux too |
| 20:40.26 | blast007 | the card sucks |
| 20:40.38 | blast007 | only 8MB video |
| 20:40.51 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: hehe, mine sucks too, but I got 128MB video |
| 20:40.58 | blast007 | (at least, when I can GET it to work in linux) |
| 20:41.13 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: hehe, mine works all the time |
| 20:41.26 | blast007 | mine is an S3 Savage IX...not the best support out there |
| 20:41.30 | blast007 | only hope is DRI |
| 20:42.47 | blast007 | lala: get us a picture of the screen...upload it to http://www.imageshack.us/ or something |
| 20:43.03 | blast007 | you can press F5 in the game, and it will save a png of the screen |
| 20:43.25 | devster | i sometimes get crazy graphic glitches |
| 20:43.33 | blast007 | in Windows it goes to My Documents\My BZFlag Files\screenshots |
| 20:43.52 | blast007 | my nVidia card does well in bzflag |
| 20:43.55 | *** part/#bzflag longhair (n=shane@pool-71-240-136-43.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:44.01 | lala | ok |
| 20:44.03 | devster | like guided missile trail goes vertical with the width bein the size of the map |
| 20:44.12 | blast007 | lol |
| 20:44.25 | devster | so basically i cant see a thing |
| 20:44.30 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: same here, nVidia all the way! |
| 20:44.34 | *** part/#bzflag JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 20:44.34 | devster | then eventually i get hit by the missile |
| 20:44.48 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
| 20:44.53 | blast007 | with this S3, I've had grass as one of the mountains textures, a mountain as the clouds, and white ground |
| 20:45.07 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: hmm, I have an S3, and it runs fine |
| 20:45.11 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: in my old PC |
| 20:45.15 | blast007 | which one? |
| 20:45.21 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: perhaps you're not using the right driver |
| 20:45.22 | blast007 | and are you in software, or hardware? ;) |
| 20:45.26 | Ice_Wewe | NumberNine |
| 20:45.29 | devster | any ideas with what i get blast007 ? |
| 20:45.44 | blast007 | devster: not really, I've never had an issue with a descent video card |
| 20:45.52 | blast007 | what card is it? |
| 20:45.55 | CosmoL | #9 lol I haven't heard that in a loooong time |
| 20:45.57 | devster | geforce 6600gt |
| 20:46.02 | blast007 | hmm |
| 20:46.04 | blast007 | strange |
| 20:46.09 | blast007 | mine is only a 5200 |
| 20:46.16 | *** join/#bzflag bz7805 (n=51b28c5d@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:46.19 | devster | all settings on the highest afaik and using the 7676 drivers |
| 20:46.21 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: same... |
| 20:46.34 | blast007 | mine is even PCI, cuz no AGP slot :( |
| 20:46.39 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: HAHA |
| 20:46.47 | devster | lol |
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| 20:46.57 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: eVGA GeForce FX 5200 AGP 8X |
| 20:47.09 | blast007 | mine is a PNY |
| 20:47.29 | devster | mines an XFX |
| 20:48.03 | Ice_Wewe | mine is better :P |
| 20:48.06 | Jo-W | what is the id of the speed flag? |
| 20:48.12 | blast007 | V ? |
| 20:48.13 | gsnedders | mine's an nvidia |
| 20:48.13 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: hehehe |
| 20:48.27 | gsnedders | nvidia 6800 ultra ddl :D |
| 20:48.27 | Jo-W | it isnt in the sample bzfs.conf |
| 20:48.29 | Jo-W | :) |
| 20:48.36 | blast007 | bzfs -help |
| 20:48.39 | blast007 | gives 'em all |
| 20:48.43 | Ice_Wewe | gsnedders: nVidia doesn't actually make video cards, they just make GPUs and sell them to people who make the cards |
| 20:48.45 | Jo-W | oh ok |
| 20:48.53 | gsnedders | Ice_Wewe: they do make a couple |
| 20:48.58 | lala | so i upped to pics |
| 20:48.59 | Ice_Wewe | gsnedders: only old ones |
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| 20:49.24 | blast007 | bz6067: need help with something? :) |
| 20:49.35 | gsnedders | Ice_Wewe: they make: 6800 gt, 7800 gtx, 6600gt for mac... |
| 20:49.38 | gsnedders | they aren't old... |
| 20:50.17 | lala | http://img512.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img512/8914/bzfi00017wc.png |
| 20:50.24 | lala | look there is my prob ;) |
| 20:50.43 | blast007 | okay, for one thing, yuck |
| 20:50.44 | Jo-W | wth |
| 20:50.53 | lala | :) |
| 20:50.55 | blast007 | no textures? low quality? |
| 20:51.06 | blast007 | probably have blending turned off too... |
| 20:51.08 | Jo-W | isnt that radar a bit big lol |
| 20:51.08 | lala | nya sry the only way to play for me :( |
| 20:51.33 | Jo-W | mine is in the lower left corner and is like 20 by 20 pixels |
| 20:51.35 | blast007 | try turning on blending |
| 20:51.41 | lala | ni have to much fps with texture l |
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| 20:52.12 | devster | i have to play it at uni like that |
| 20:52.17 | lala | turning on blending ok |
| 20:52.19 | devster | comps dont have graphics drivers installed :( |
| 20:52.38 | blast007 | devster: or their cards don't do OpenGL ;) |
| 20:52.39 | lala | nbut i have installed it LOL |
| 20:52.57 | blast007 | lala what video card is that? |
| 20:52.58 | devster | blast007: they are some form of nvidia 5200's |
| 20:53.11 | blast007 | devster: hehe, and they didn't do drivers? nice |
| 20:53.29 | lala | Ati Rage fury 128 pro or so was a complett packets for some year from fujitsu siemens or so 4in1 |
| 20:53.35 | devster | nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] |
| 20:53.40 | devster | thats what they got |
| 20:53.49 | blast007 | eeeek, rage! |
| 20:54.00 | devster | blast007: its a default install of fedora core 4 with no nvidia drivers :( |
| 20:54.05 | Jo-W | mm how do i adjust the jump height ? :) |
| 20:54.14 | blast007 | http://www.ati.com/products/rage128/ragefury/ |
| 20:54.21 | Jo-W | gravity? |
| 20:54.23 | blast007 | so it says it can do OpenGL... |
| 20:55.42 | blast007 | lala: when you start bzflag, what does it say (in the message box) for renderer? |
| 20:55.47 | blast007 | GDI Generic? |
| 20:57.17 | blast007 | Jo-W: there is a _jumpVelocity var |
| 20:57.30 | Jo-W | oh ty |
| 20:57.47 | Jo-W | i thought that only set the jump speed |
| 20:58.17 | lala | nothing look http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bzfi00002yf.png |
| 20:58.26 | blast007 | lower speed means lower jump |
| 20:58.39 | Jo-W | yeh i get it now :) |
| 20:58.50 | Ice_Wewe | lala: yea, that is 2.0.4 bug, get 2.0.5 for windows |
| 20:59.16 | blast007 | 2.0.4 bug? |
| 20:59.17 | lala | and than? |
| 20:59.21 | lala | nwhats better? |
| 20:59.26 | Ice_Wewe | lala: start it up and play |
| 20:59.28 | lala | nmy prob is away? |
| 20:59.35 | blast007 | anyway, it seems to be using the hardware |
| 20:59.36 | Ice_Wewe | lala: well for one thing, you shouldn't have that problem anymore |
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| 20:59.41 | cupcakekid | hi :) |
| 20:59.44 | Jo-W | omg, bzfs doesnt recognise the U flag |
| 20:59.56 | blast007 | US == Useless? |
| 20:59.56 | cupcakekid | what socket lib does bzflag use for its windows build? |
| 21:00.09 | blast007 | winsock you mean? |
| 21:00.39 | lala | i hope! :) |
| 21:00.41 | blast007 | really isn't a lib other than that |
| 21:00.48 | cupcakekid | they use winsock32.lib? |
| 21:00.48 | Jo-W | doh :P |
| 21:00.54 | lala | its hard enough without features =) |
| 21:01.14 | cupcakekid | how about for *nix? |
| 21:01.28 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: I'm still unsure of what bug in 2.0.4 you are speaking of? |
| 21:01.37 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: look at his picture... |
| 21:01.58 | blast007 | I am |
| 21:02.38 | Ice_Wewe | his radar limit is realyy high |
| 21:02.57 | blast007 | they set it that way |
| 21:02.59 | blast007 | they want a big radar |
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| 21:06.09 | lala | 30 limit |
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| 21:06.45 | blast007 | lala: in GUI Options, set the radar type to Fast |
| 21:06.51 | blast007 | might blend a bit better |
| 21:07.13 | lala | and u said at the beginning something what i should switch what was it? |
| 21:07.25 | blast007 | blending in the Display options |
| 21:07.30 | blast007 | make sure its on |
| 21:07.55 | lala | ni cant i mean, if i turn it on, i can see bullets on my radar |
| 21:08.11 | lala | ops i cant see bullets than |
| 21:08.19 | lala | dunno why |
| 21:08.41 | lala | i mean that was the prob there |
| 21:09.03 | lala | radar style was fast |
| 21:10.15 | blast007 | the game wasn't designed for a fullscreen radar, so there issues I guess ;) |
| 21:10.21 | blast007 | there's* |
| 21:11.48 | blast007 | not sure how it handles it on my nvidia card with everything turned on |
| 21:11.55 | blast007 | using software rendering on here |
| 21:12.31 | lala | ok blending is on too |
| 21:13.31 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: fixing crash on invalid captured flag |
| 21:14.19 | Tupone | ToughShooter: that should fix the crash. |
| 21:16.08 | Jo-W | mm +f L{2} means a shot limit of 2 right |
| 21:16.24 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: shadowed variable. |
| 21:17.36 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: fixing crash on invalid captured flag |
| 21:17.52 | Jo-W | oh wait i ned to use -sl |
| 21:17.56 | lala | ok ty for ur help |
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| 21:51.08 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Do not applaud when capturing its own flag |
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| 21:52.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Do not applaud when capturing its own flag |
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| 21:57.47 | lala | mmh blast can u tell me the adress to upload a screenshot? |
| 21:58.01 | lala | anything with shellshock or so i mean |
| 21:58.24 | ruskie | you could upload it to http://ruskie.dtdm.org/gallery and put it in the bzflag screenshots :) |
| 21:58.38 | brlcad | there's nobody maintaining shellshock at the moment unfortunately |
| 21:58.47 | brlcad | she needs a new webmaster |
| 21:59.04 | blast007 | ...if only I had 48 hour days ;D |
| 22:00.09 | brlcad | if someone with serious web skills wants to pick up site maintenance, they should let me know (and toss a message by dutchrai) |
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| 22:12.50 | ToughShooter | Tupone: :)) |
| 22:12.59 | Tupone | :) |
| 22:13.53 | Tupone | ToughShooter: just one piece of the cake. You get no crash, but the people who made that virtual capture should review her/his code |
| 22:15.48 | ToughShooter | Tupone: It's a start |
| 22:16.12 | Tupone | I'm start to get annoyed :) |
| 22:16.27 | ToughShooter | Better than me looking at the collision code |
| 22:17.19 | ToughShooter | Annoyed by what? :o |
| 22:17.30 | Tupone | ToughShooter: I already did, but people changed after that |
| 22:21.37 | Tupone | ToughShooter: how many team you have at the place you get the crash? |
| 22:23.36 | ToughShooter | Tupone: it happens with one team (only me, or more purple) and with 2 teams (purple + green). For more teams I haven't tested |
| 22:24.22 | Tupone | so the world has just 2 team , and they are not the first 2 :) red and green |
| 22:25.18 | ToughShooter | personally I would prefer green + purple ;) |
| 22:28.40 | ToughShooter | red is soo hard to see with that gras texture |
| 22:32.01 | DTRemenak | ````````````` |
| 22:32.04 | DTRemenak | oopsie |
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| 22:59.05 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Team Flag position is not fixed. When sending virtual capture look for flag then |
| 23:00.17 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Team Flag position is not fixed. When sending virtual capture look for flag then |
| 23:25.51 | SilentSwan | ok, is there a trick to getting modeltool to build on linux? |
| 23:26.25 | learner | cd to the dir and make |
| 23:27.08 | SilentSwan | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../../src/common/libCommon.a', needed by `modeltool'. Stop. |
| 23:27.08 | SilentSwan | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cygnus/src/BZFlag/bzflag/tools/modeltool' |
| 23:27.08 | SilentSwan | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 23:27.31 | SilentSwan | and the entire source was already configured and built, so there shouldn't be anything missing |
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| 23:30.25 | SilentSwan | ooook then |
| 23:30.57 | brlcad | ah |
| 23:31.22 | brlcad | the makefile.am wasn't updated with the new lib |
| 23:33.12 | brlcad | SilentSwan: edit the makefile.am and change that libCommon.a to a libCommon.la and make again |
| 23:33.51 | SilentSwan | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../../src/common/libCommon.la', needed by `modeltool'. Stop. |
| 23:33.51 | SilentSwan | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cygnus/src/BZFlag/bzflag/tools/modeltool' |
| 23:33.51 | SilentSwan | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 23:33.56 | SilentSwan | same deal |
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| 23:37.01 | brlcad | eh, wierd |
| 23:37.07 | brlcad | ls -la ../../src/common/libCommon.la |
| 23:37.36 | SilentSwan | hold on, i just blew everything away.. rebuilding |
| 23:37.40 | SilentSwan | in case i forgot something stupid |
| 23:38.00 | SilentSwan | which i am occasionally known to do every 400 years or so :) |
| 23:38.33 | brlcad | if you really want to be sure, start from autogen.sh and configure |
| 23:38.41 | SilentSwan | exactly what i did |
| 23:38.43 | brlcad | since you edited a makefile.am |
| 23:38.56 | brlcad | though the build should detect the edit and do the right thing |
| 23:39.10 | SilentSwan | keyword: "should" :) |
| 23:42.29 | SilentSwan | ok, that worked now :) |
| 23:42.33 | SilentSwan | thanks brlcad |
| 23:43.39 | brlcad | suggests there is some misconfiguration of your gnu build system stuff |
| 23:43.43 | brlcad | like missing symlinks or something |
| 23:43.50 | brlcad | but yw regarless, glad it worked |
| 23:44.01 | SilentSwan | what's bzwtransform? |
| 23:44.34 | brlcad | a converter iirc |
| 23:46.24 | brlcad | converts trpans simplified format to bzw format |
| 23:46.35 | brlcad | there's a sample template input file in the dir |
| 23:47.11 | brlcad | that's sort of been deprecated or made obsolete by the features getting added to the bzw format |
| 23:48.12 | SilentSwan | ah ok |
| 23:48.33 | SilentSwan | also just curious, but is there a way to get bzedit to recognize world files larger than 400x400? |
| 23:48.40 | SilentSwan | in other words, expand the boundaries |
| 23:49.10 | brlcad | beats me |
| 23:49.19 | SilentSwan | it appears to edit them fine, but the wall still stays at the default (the buildings appear *outside* the walls) |
| 23:49.36 | SilentSwan | ah well, no big deal... thanks |
| 23:50.47 | brlcad | yeah, that's easy enough to fix on the bzfs command line or add the worldsize param to the world var settings block |
| 23:52.55 | SilentSwan | sure that works, but bzedit doesn't see the larger world |
| 23:53.02 | *** join/#bzflag wizart (n=wizart@dslb-084-058-133-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:54.26 | SilentSwan | but then, people tell me i don't either |
| 23:54.27 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:54.31 | cosmos | *** 'KILLER_1' joined the game as Red Team from 69.119.240.73 |
| 23:54.32 | cosmos | another ban |
| 23:54.45 | SilentSwan | what'd he do? |
| 23:54.58 | cosmos | read the forums hes a persona non grata |
| 23:55.13 | cosmos | hes tried to DoS my server, ask for accounts and passwords etc |
| 23:55.14 | Aribeth | he's bad news |
| 23:56.38 | Aribeth | that ip is familiar |
| 23:57.31 | SilentSwan | *sigh* well, i guess my servants aren't going to take this old CRT down to the basement for me, so... i better do it myself |
| 23:57.35 | SilentSwan | so hard to find good help these days |
| 23:58.13 | TD-Linux | I think KILLER_1 also threatened to murder tadd's son |
| 23:58.19 | CosmoL | oh my |
| 23:58.29 | TD-Linux | not sure, though |
| 23:58.34 | TD-Linux | could have been someone else |
| 23:58.56 | CosmoL | Aribeth: he's used a ton of other callsigns from that IP, maybe you remember a different one |
| 23:59.19 | CosmoL | Thumper_'s website is great! |
| 23:59.21 | Aribeth | prolly |
| 23:59.59 | SilentSwan | hmm... threatened to murder? |
