| 00:00.39 | callofhonor | JeffM2501... how am i supposed to play on bzreserve if i'm banned?\ |
| 00:00.52 | JeffM2501 | how am I suposed to know |
| 00:01.00 | callofhonor | i can pnly play on like 5 servers |
| 00:01.00 | JeffM2501 | the point of being baned is so you DON'T play |
| 00:01.11 | JeffM2501 | sucks to get baned then huh? |
| 00:01.17 | callofhonor | yes |
| 00:01.37 | JeffM2501 | probably shoulda thought about that before you got banned huh? |
| 00:01.51 | callofhonor | i had a bad day, i wasn't thinking |
| 00:02.04 | callofhonor | i think that part is obvious |
| 00:02.10 | JeffM2501 | you were like warned many times |
| 00:02.12 | JeffM2501 | over a week |
| 00:02.45 | callofhonor | don't remember. btw did you email me about it. i never got anything? |
| 00:04.38 | callofhonor | is their a chance that if i make my own server i will be banned from my own server? |
| 00:05.07 | callofhonor | that's what it seems like |
| 00:06.16 | callofhonor | jeffm2501??????????//\ |
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| 00:07.53 | Inferno | hello |
| 00:08.18 | Inferno | ~seen jeffm2501 |
| 00:08.22 | ibot | jeffm2501 is currently on #bzflag (1h 40m 42s) #tacobeam (1h 40m 42s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 6m 10s |
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| 00:09.45 | JeffMmini | wheeeeeeee |
| 00:10.01 | Inferno | who is JeffMmini |
| 00:10.06 | JeffMmini | me |
| 00:10.27 | Inferno | are you related to JeffM2501? |
| 00:10.55 | JeffMmini | ya think :) |
| 00:11.07 | Inferno | maybe :)? |
| 00:18.28 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 00:18.37 | Inferno | very funny :) |
| 00:18.39 | JeffM2501 | awww the munchkin left? |
| 00:18.43 | JeffM2501 | Inferno, what? |
| 00:18.58 | Inferno | I got a bot, that can recieve messages now :) |
| 00:19.02 | Inferno | :p |
| 00:19.11 | JeffM2501 | umm great |
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| 00:22.42 | Inferno | i think for now I'll have just a messenger bot |
| 00:22.52 | RPG_ | that's easy to make |
| 00:22.54 | JeffM2501 | that does what? |
| 00:22.57 | RPG_ | plugin!!!!!!! |
| 00:23.09 | Inferno | or one that just rejoins and lets me kiil him, so I can get on the high scores :) |
| 00:23.23 | JeffM2501 | that's called cheating |
| 00:23.27 | Inferno | lol |
| 00:23.28 | JeffM2501 | and rather lame |
| 00:23.45 | Inferno | I was kidding |
| 00:24.54 | Inferno | well, talk to ya later, thx alot for all the help! |
| 00:25.42 | RPG_ | do you think this is a good idea for a contest: you make a cheat client, then on a certain day at a certain time on a certain server, all the cheat clients go against each other, and we see who wins? |
| 00:26.11 | Inferno | lol, that would be messy |
| 00:26.22 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, no |
| 00:26.23 | RPG_ | there'd be rules, like no modifying the hit radius |
| 00:26.33 | JeffM2501 | those clients would get out |
| 00:26.39 | RPG_ | thats what I was thinking |
| 00:26.41 | JeffM2501 | and all you'd do is show people how easy it is to cheat |
| 00:26.45 | Inferno | RPG_, what does ur name stand for? |
| 00:26.59 | RPG_ | rocket propelled grenade and role playing game |
| 00:27.13 | JeffM2501 | Realy Pual Gummont |
| 00:27.43 | Inferno | is the g: Gerite or something like that |
| 00:27.47 | JeffM2501 | the grenade one is so very 1980's |
| 00:27.51 | JeffM2501 | died with rambo |
| 00:28.01 | JeffM2501 | they are called "bazzoka" now |
| 00:28.14 | RPG_ | not the primitive ones |
| 00:28.16 | Inferno | is cool anyway :) |
| 00:29.54 | RPG_ | if you use bz_eTickEvent in a plugin, when BZFS runs it's loop, and gets to the plugin, does BZFS halt it's actions until the plugin's actions complete? |
| 00:30.01 | RPG_ | i.e. does eTickEvent slow down the server? |
| 00:30.11 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, yes |
| 00:30.19 | JeffM2501 | the server is single threaded |
| 00:30.23 | RPG_ | ok |
| 00:30.30 | RPG_ | so i gotta keep it short and sweet |
| 00:30.34 | JeffM2501 | it calls that once every time for it's loop |
| 00:30.43 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you have to do that for ANY callback |
| 00:30.56 | JeffM2501 | every time i calls you, the server is waiting for you to return |
| 00:31.02 | Inferno | what, the player decides where it spawns?!?!? |
| 00:31.05 | RPG_ | i see |
| 00:31.08 | JeffM2501 | Inferno, no |
| 00:31.13 | RPG_ | Inferno: where'd that come from? |
| 00:31.14 | JeffM2501 | not anymore |
| 00:31.18 | JeffM2501 | it used to |
| 00:31.20 | Inferno | oh |
| 00:31.41 | Inferno | well, then can you tell me what is sent to respawn by client, PLZ |
| 00:32.02 | JeffM2501 | I think it's a message join |
| 00:32.09 | JeffM2501 | both ways |
| 00:32.46 | Inferno | k? |
| 00:33.15 | Inferno | do you send ur id? |
| 00:33.23 | JeffM2501 | what does the code say |
| 00:33.28 | JeffM2501 | or do we have to go thru all this again? |
| 00:33.41 | Inferno | not again |
| 00:33.48 | RPG_ | inferno: how many % are you done with this? |
| 00:34.07 | Inferno | .00000000000000000000000001% |
| 00:34.20 | RPG_ | gotcha |
| 00:34.36 | Inferno | well, at least I have a WAY better idea about what I'm doing so maybe %10 |
| 00:34.48 | Inferno | so I'm started :) |
| 00:35.30 | RPG_ | bz_eAllowPlayer, |
| 00:35.30 | RPG_ | what's this event do? |
| 00:35.46 | JeffM2501 | do you want to allow or disallow the player |
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| 00:35.56 | JeffM2501 | like if you want to do your own ban |
| 00:36.02 | RPG_ | oh |
| 00:36.02 | RPG_ | ok |
| 00:36.22 | RPG_ | this? bz_eGetPlayerInfoEvent, |
| 00:36.37 | Inferno | and, you answer RPG_??!?!?! |
| 00:36.46 | Inferno | he should go to the hard code! |
| 00:36.53 | RPG_ | huh? |
| 00:37.01 | JeffM2501 | he is asking logical questions on new features |
| 00:37.09 | Inferno | oh, k |
| 00:37.09 | JeffM2501 | he LEARNS when I tell him something |
| 00:37.17 | Inferno | so am I? |
| 00:37.31 | JeffM2501 | no, you are asking about existing stuff that is WAY more complex |
| 00:37.37 | JeffM2501 | stuff that you have to figure out |
| 00:37.52 | Inferno | oh :( |
| 00:38.00 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, it's when it needs to send out info if the user is admin or observer or whatnot |
| 00:38.09 | JeffM2501 | Inferno, I also have known him for a LOT longer |
| 00:38.20 | JeffM2501 | and he helps me test and develop many new features |
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| 00:38.29 | Inferno | wait, I've been arounf here for like...1 year |
| 00:38.32 | JeffM2501 | his is one of the core reasons the API works as well as it does |
| 00:38.45 | Inferno | oh, way to go RPG! |
| 00:38.55 | RPG_ | yay! |
| 00:39.48 | JeffM2501 | w00t dual head in linux |
| 00:40.25 | bryjen | mutant penguins from the ozone-depleted south pole! |
| 00:41.11 | JeffM2501 | tho I can't get head 2 over 1024 |
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| 01:10.25 | Inferno | RPG, do you know what the respawn msg is? |
| 01:10.38 | RPG_ | respawn mesg? |
| 01:10.48 | RPG_ | client -> server or server -> client? |
| 01:10.56 | Inferno | client to server |
| 01:11.18 | RPG_ | logically, "I'm spawning now.." |
| 01:11.22 | RPG_ | but I don't know the protocol |
| 01:11.29 | Inferno | ah |
| 01:11.38 | RPG_ | that's just my potluck guess |
| 01:11.56 | Inferno | k |
| 01:12.31 | JeffM2501 | look for "spawn" in the code |
| 01:12.34 | JeffM2501 | see where it goes |
| 01:19.11 | JeffM2501 | ahh the joy of finding packages :) |
| 01:21.46 | RPG_ | JeffM: I made added page anchors to the plugin doc's "events" page to make it easier to navigate |
| 01:21.49 | RPG_ | do you want it? |
| 01:22.11 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 01:22.22 | RPG_ | SF or email? |
| 01:22.50 | JeffM2501 | email best |
| 01:22.57 | JeffM2501 | I'll just commit it |
| 01:24.53 | RPG_ | there |
| 01:33.49 | Inferno | will it let me spawn without loading the map, or doing any pre msgs? |
| 01:34.04 | RPG_ | what's "it" |
| 01:34.23 | Inferno | the server |
| 01:34.23 | JeffM2501 | maybe, but if you don't send back the UDP packet, then you'd be assumed to be TCP and lagy as hell |
| 01:34.37 | JeffM2501 | you have to at lease ACCEPT the world |
| 01:34.48 | JeffM2501 | and you have to do flag negotiaion |
| 01:35.01 | Inferno | OH |
| 01:35.07 | RPG_ | wouldn't your bot have to know the world? |
| 01:35.17 | Inferno | you don't accept world, you request it |
| 01:35.32 | Inferno | I don't care right now, just wanna spawn |
| 01:35.51 | JeffM2501 | you want to at least request the world, even if you don't do anything with |
| 01:36.03 | JeffM2501 | or you'll be in a wierd state server side |
| 01:36.07 | Inferno | k, that 's a harder thing to do |
| 01:36.18 | JeffM2501 | you also need to do flag negotiation |
| 01:36.20 | JeffM2501 | and the game info |
| 01:36.34 | JeffM2501 | as well as get the players |
| 01:36.43 | Inferno | so the server requests something back for flag and game info? |
| 01:37.06 | JeffM2501 | flag negotiaion does just that |
| 01:37.13 | JeffM2501 | makes sure both client and server know of the same flags |
| 01:37.22 | Inferno | bummer :( |
| 01:39.28 | JeffM2501 | just do what the client does |
| 01:40.07 | Inferno | is UDP required then? |
| 01:43.26 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:43.40 | JeffM2501 | but all your messages will take orders of magnitude longer |
| 01:43.45 | JeffM2501 | to get there |
| 01:44.51 | Inferno | my client isn't lagy, I got that, so why isn't it spawning? |
| 01:45.10 | JeffM2501 | did you do flag negotiation? |
| 01:45.15 | Inferno | $respawn = pack("n2", 0x0018, 0x616c);, is what I am sending |
| 01:45.30 | JeffM2501 | did you do all the other stuff the client does before it sends a spawn? |
| 01:45.36 | Inferno | you only negotiate there when you pick up or drop a flag |
| 01:45.44 | JeffM2501 | no no no |
| 01:45.52 | JeffM2501 | that is just the pickup message |
| 01:46.04 | Inferno | oh, where talking at the start... |
| 01:46.11 | JeffM2501 | but if you know all about it, you tell me why you arn't spawning |
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| 01:46.45 | Inferno | I don't know about it? |
| 01:47.02 | JeffM2501 | you just told me when we negotiate |
| 01:47.06 | JeffM2501 | so you must know all about it |
| 01:48.45 | Inferno | it was a question |
| 01:49.09 | JeffM2501 | <Inferno>you only negotiate there when you pick up or drop a flag |
| 01:49.14 | JeffM2501 | that had no ? at the end |
| 01:49.20 | Inferno | oops, sry |
| 01:50.15 | JeffM2501 | so answer my first question, did you do all the stuff that the client does before it sends a spawn? |
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| 01:51.47 | a_monkey | how do i recompile bzflag? |
| 01:52.00 | a_monkey | if i've already compiled it once |
| 01:52.08 | Inferno | no, I'm figuring out the world download thing, sounds complicated |
| 01:52.10 | JeffM2501 | the same way you compile it the first time |
| 01:52.23 | a_monkey | incorrect. |
| 01:52.34 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, no |
| 01:52.37 | JeffM2501 | make |
| 01:52.41 | a_monkey | Making all in foo |
| 01:52.41 | a_monkey | make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. |
| 01:52.44 | JeffM2501 | that will rebuild anything that changed |
| 01:52.47 | JeffM2501 | then nothing changed |
| 01:52.55 | a_monkey | i mean, recompile the whole shebang |
| 01:52.59 | JeffM2501 | do you want to force a rebuild of all things even if they didn't change? |
| 01:53.06 | a_monkey | yep. |
| 01:53.09 | JeffM2501 | make clean |
| 01:53.09 | JeffM2501 | make |
| 01:53.13 | a_monkey | ohhh |
| 01:53.14 | a_monkey | thanks! |
| 01:53.21 | a_monkey | i learn something new every day |
| 01:53.22 | JeffM2501 | you don't "rebuild" |
| 01:53.30 | JeffM2501 | you clean out the old compiled stuff |
| 01:53.32 | JeffM2501 | then just make again |
| 01:53.49 | a_monkey | i never knew what make clean meant... cool |
| 01:54.06 | JeffM2501 | it has the word "clean" what else could it make? |
| 01:54.14 | a_monkey | lol |
| 01:54.44 | JeffM2501 | we really should send all you kids to a class or seminar or something |
| 01:55.00 | Inferno | hey Jeff, here is the seminar, lol |
| 01:55.45 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:55.47 | JeffM2501 | no it isn't |
| 01:55.53 | JeffM2501 | !lol |
| 01:55.53 | TheLastSpartan | heh |
| 02:05.22 | Inferno | it sends the whole world in "2131"! |
| 02:05.33 | RPG_ | that's some world |
| 02:05.40 | Inferno | that makes it easy :) |
| 02:06.00 | RPG_ | here's your arrangement of boxes and pyramids: 2131! |
| 02:06.13 | Inferno | I dunno |
| 02:06.32 | Inferno | it's prob 2.131 kbs |
| 02:06.44 | RPG_ | or 2131 KB |
| 02:06.51 | RPG_ | if you're on a Louman map :) |
| 02:06.52 | Inferno | neh, I don't think so |
| 02:07.04 | Inferno | no, it's a random map, localhost |
| 02:07.12 | Inferno | lol |
| 02:07.33 | Inferno | does louman make maps for profession ? |
| 02:07.39 | RPG_ | probably |
| 02:07.42 | RPG_ | but each one is a new jewel |
| 02:07.49 | Inferno | yeah :) |
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| 02:10.24 | Inferno | ok, so I downloaded the world: MsgGetWorld, now what? |
| 02:18.26 | a_monkey | man it takes forever to compile on os x |
| 02:18.43 | a_monkey | linux is done in the blink of an eye |
| 02:23.24 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.31 | RPG_ | in racetoseven, it appears as this: |
| 02:23.38 | RPG_ | bz_PlayerRecord *data = bz_getPlayerByIndex(i); |
| 02:23.46 | RPG_ | is bz_PlayerRecord optional? |
| 02:23.58 | RPG_ | is the docs wrong? |
| 02:27.32 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:27.45 | JeffM2501 | it just returns a bool now to tell you if it worked |
| 02:28.02 | RPG_ | what API version did that chagne in? |
| 02:28.21 | RPG_ | because |
| 02:28.21 | RPG_ | bz_PlayerRecord *data = bz_getPlayerByIndex(i); |
| 02:28.21 | RPG_ | is currently in the final release of racetoseven |
| 02:28.22 | JeffM2501 | 'I dono |
| 02:28.24 | JeffM2501 | I didn't do it |
| 02:28.38 | RPG_ | hmm |
| 02:28.52 | JeffM2501 | guess you arn't so 'final" |
| 02:29.04 | RPG_ | but it compiled flawlessly |
| 02:30.28 | a_monkey | with the latest cvs the bzflag client returns "segmentation fault" |
| 02:30.47 | a_monkey | anybody know what this means? |
| 02:31.35 | RPG_ | it means you had a segmentation falut |
| 02:32.11 | a_monkey | of course |
| 02:32.23 | a_monkey | what does *that* mean? |
| 02:32.24 | RPG_ | Jeff: bzfsAPI.h defines "bz_getPlayerByIndex" as: |
| 02:32.24 | RPG_ | BZF_API bz_PlayerRecord *bz_getPlayerByIndex ( int index ); |
| 02:32.25 | bryjen | isn't he helpful? :P |
| 02:32.47 | bryjen | it means it tried to access memory that it hadn't allocated |
| 02:32.48 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, the current one? |
| 02:32.56 | a_monkey | why |
| 02:32.58 | a_monkey | oops |
| 02:32.58 | RPG_ | i'll update again, to be sure |
| 02:33.03 | a_monkey | why'd it do that? |
| 02:33.04 | RPG_ | did it this morning |
| 02:33.14 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 02:33.55 | RPG_ | just updated, bzfsAPI.h still has it just taking an int |
| 02:34.03 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 02:34.07 | JeffM2501 | then the docs are wrong |
| 02:34.18 | JeffM2501 | check the docs |
| 02:34.25 | JeffM2501 | see when they chaned |
| 02:34.31 | JeffM2501 | use your cvs history |
| 02:35.00 | RPG_ | 8/21 was the last update, by DTR, comment: proffreading |
| 02:35.09 | RPG_ | +61 -69 |
| 02:35.17 | JeffM2501 | diff them |
| 02:35.18 | bryjen | proff ? |
| 02:35.20 | JeffM2501 | see when it changed |
| 02:35.46 | DTRemenak | bryjen: proffreading and speling |
| 02:35.59 | RPG_ | it was spelled "proofreading" |
| 02:36.01 | RPG_ | i just mistyped ti |
| 02:36.02 | RPG_ | it |
| 02:36.31 | RPG_ | gah |
| 02:36.35 | RPG_ | i was looking in the wrong HTML file |
| 02:36.38 | RPG_ | foret everything i just said |
| 02:38.47 | RPG_ | JeffM: what do you want with the diff? |
| 02:39.01 | RPG_ | All I can see is that the line was edited by DTR on 8/26, rev1.15 |
| 02:39.53 | JeffM2501 | diff for what? |
| 02:40.07 | RPG_ | you told me to get the diff of DTR's revision |
| 02:40.19 | bryjen | typsos tio |
| 02:40.26 | RPG_ | JeffM2501: diff them |
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| 02:41.43 | JeffM2501 | I have no recolection |
| 02:41.46 | JeffM2501 | I was told to forget |
| 02:41.55 | RPG_ | ok |
| 02:42.06 | RPG_ | i really didn't know what you would want with that diff |
| 02:42.19 | JeffM2501 | it was for you |
| 02:42.27 | JeffM2501 | to see when it changed |
| 02:42.30 | RPG_ | oh |
| 02:44.22 | RPG_ | oh no |
| 02:50.49 | RPG_ | can anyone help me with this linker error? |
| 02:50.50 | RPG_ | masterbot.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol "class std::basic_string<char,struct std::char_traits<char>,class std::allocator<char> > __cdecl TextUtils::format(char const *,...)" (?format@TextUtils@@YA?AV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@PBDZZ) referenced in function "public: virtual void __thiscall Log::process(class bz_EventData *)" (?process@Log@@UAEXPAVbz_EventData@@@Z) |
| 02:58.47 | trepan | RPG_: you linking with common.lib ? |
| 03:00.00 | RPG_ | LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'common.lib' |
| 03:00.02 | RPG_ | my bad |
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| 03:12.41 | RPG_ | where would this "common.lib" be? |
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| 03:16.35 | RPG_ | the one in /src/common/debug/common.lib doesn't work too well |
| 03:16.46 | RPG_ | 22 errors, 21 warnings |
| 03:17.11 | RPG_ | it's also around 12MB |
| 03:20.32 | RPG_ | JeffM2501: In bz_PlayerJoinPartEventData, could you consider adding the IP address of the user? |
| 03:25.13 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, no, since you can get it via other means |
| 03:25.43 | RPG_ | yes, bz_getPlayerByIndex(((bz_PlayerJoinPartEventData*)eventData)->playerID); |
| 03:25.52 | RPG_ | data->ipAddress; |
| 03:26.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:26.08 | JeffM2501 | the events don't give you ALL things |
| 03:26.21 | JeffM2501 | just the things that may be used commonly |
| 03:28.01 | RPG_ | so the player is added into his slot before the bz_ePlayerJoinEvent is called, and his slot is revoked after the bz_ePlayerPartEvent? |
| 03:29.33 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:29.42 | RPG_ | just checkign |
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| 03:38.53 | Meteorite | hey all |
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| 04:00.25 | Aribeth | wb learner |
| 04:01.18 | learner | thx |
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| 09:35.57 | ToughShooter | Could someone help me to find out what's causing the segfault of BZFLag client? I used gdb to run it and doing a backtrace but I'm not really able to read the results ("??" makes me wondering). http://pastebin.com/354291 |
| 09:45.27 | ruskie | I am a nobody with gdb but it looks like it get's some memory yanked from under it while running |
| 09:46.19 | ruskie | atleast if judging by the human readable output there |
| 09:46.21 | ToughShooter | All I know that either Tupone or JeffM2501 have broken it |
| 09:46.27 | ruskie | :) |
| 09:48.11 | ToughShooter | The output looks really wiered to me. With other debuggers there is usually a description where it crashes, at least there should be one. |
| 09:48.48 | ruskie | tried doing where? |
| 09:48.53 | ruskie | that ussualy can show as well |
| 09:50.15 | meacan | "where" is the same as "bt" |
| 09:51.40 | meacan | ToughShooter: i think your stack is destroyed (like it suggests), which explains why you dont get the "normal" output. |
| 10:00.07 | ToughShooter | How to revert back to a certain date? My tries are at http://pastebin.com/354299 but they haven't been successful :( |
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| 10:02.22 | meacan | ToughShooter: -d arg should be before the checkout parameters |
| 10:02.46 | ToughShooter | Well, then it tells me it can't find the module "bzflag checkout" |
| 10:03.21 | meacan | ToughShooter: try: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag checkout -D 01 Sep 2005 00:00 -z3 -P bzflag |
| 10:03.54 | meacan | ToughShooter: you know that co is short for checkout? :) |
| 10:04.50 | ToughShooter | bah, it hates me http://pastebin.com/354301 |
| 10:07.20 | meacan | ToughShooter: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag checkout -D "01 Sep 2005 00:00" -P bzflag |
| 10:09.48 | ToughShooter | meacan: Thanks. I feel pretty much blamed now ;) |
| 10:10.27 | meacan | no worries :) |
| 10:14.48 | ToughShooter | Do I have to add lag because I'm using anon CVS or am I amble to use just the times from CIA? |
| 10:17.52 | meacan | CIA might be slightly delayed from the actualy commit, but remember that anon cvs is pretty slow. It might be hours outdated compared to the "real" cvs |
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| 11:50.05 | ToughShooter | ibot, botmail for JeffM2501: I found out what caused my segfaults, it was your commit http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag/.message/5518318 |
| 11:50.38 | ToughShooter | ~botmail for JeffM2501: I found out what caused my segfaults, it was your commit http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag/.message/5518318 |
| 11:50.58 | ToughShooter | Hmm |
| 12:00.49 | jpa- | ibot is dead |
| 12:00.54 | jpa- | and ibot_ is retarted |
| 12:01.30 | jpa- | ibot_: ibot |
| 12:07.04 | ruskie | lol |
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| 12:32.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 12:33.20 | meacan | bb-user: "seofluder" is a spammer (removed the post) |
| 12:36.32 | menotume | meacan: got a minute ? |
| 12:39.14 | menotume | I need a tester for just a minute ... can someone go to bzflag.no-ip.com:5156 please |
| 12:43.27 | menotume | TY ToughShooter, i will look at multiple-hunt next :) |
| 12:43.45 | menotume | ~ToughShooter++ |
| 12:51.23 | ToughShooter | menotume, ibot is death |
| 12:51.31 | menotume | ahhh, okies |
| 12:51.32 | ToughShooter | ~say I'm awake |
| 12:51.34 | ibot | I'm awake |
| 12:51.39 | ToughShooter | OW |
| 12:51.42 | menotume | hehe |
| 12:51.46 | ToughShooter | ~botmail for JeffM2501: I found out what caused my segfaults, it was your commit http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag/.message/5518318 |
| 12:51.47 | menotume | ibot woke up |
| 12:52.47 | ToughShooter | ~karma ToughShooter |
| 12:52.47 | ibot | toughshooter has karma of 11 |
| 12:52.59 | menotume | ~ToughShooter++ |
| 12:53.05 | menotume | ~karma ToughShooter |
| 12:53.06 | ibot | toughshooter has karma of 12 |
| 12:53.17 | ToughShooter | Eww |
| 12:53.33 | menotume | ~botmail for JeffM2501: test of botmail :) |
| 12:53.56 | ToughShooter | He said okay to me previously, only stopped today |
| 12:54.20 | menotume | yes, usually gives a confirmation |
| 12:54.33 | menotume | ~botmail for menotume: test of botmail :) |
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| 12:54.58 | menotume | nope, no botmail |
| 12:55.14 | menotume | is it when you join a channel ? |
| 12:55.31 | ToughShooter | Dunno |
| 12:55.43 | jpa- | why not just the messageserv thingie? |
| 12:55.50 | ruskie | memoserv you mean :) |
| 12:56.10 | jpa- | yeah |
| 12:56.41 | jpa- | ruskie: ruskmessage to ToughShooter: use ruskie |
| 13:02.43 | ruskie | hmmm |
| 13:02.49 | ruskie | I wonder if jpa- would like a banana... |
| 13:08.17 | jpa- | i would |
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| 13:12.37 | BearPerson | I think botmail is when the person speaks, not joins |
| 13:12.51 | BearPerson | basically when they show signals of being awake and around |
| 13:20.17 | menotume | i'm awake, where's my biotmail ? |
| 13:27.40 | jpa- | menotume: say i love jpa |
| 13:27.55 | menotume | say i love jpa |
| 13:28.01 | menotume | jpa <3 |
| 13:28.13 | jpa- | :) |
| 13:29.00 | menotume | lol ! |
| 13:29.14 | menotume | i was just going to say that we have laws here in the US |
| 13:29.43 | menotume | jpa, i know what you mean, but it's not good for someone my age to say that to a younger male (or female even) |
| 13:30.06 | jpa- | the limit is 16 in finland, i'm all legal :P |
| 13:30.14 | menotume | hmmm |
| 13:30.37 | Birdie | meno is "to" legal in finland;) |
| 13:30.54 | menotume | :) |
| 13:31.01 | menotume | jpa-: I am 47 |
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| 13:32.18 | menotume | Tupy ! |
| 13:33.20 | jpa- | menotume: age doesn't matter, you'r cutie |
| 13:33.46 | menotume | lol |
| 13:40.33 | Tupone | RC is fantastic in pics.bzleague But I guess I'm too right |
| 13:40.43 | menotume | lol |
| 13:40.53 | Birdie | tupone should place his pic to |
| 13:40.54 | menotume | it's a pic that she posted on bzbb a while back |
| 13:41.02 | Birdie | thats not RC btw |
| 13:41.02 | menotume | I'm just trying to get her attention |
| 13:41.07 | Birdie | RC is only 5 feeth |
| 13:41.14 | Birdie | the girl in the pic is taller than that |
| 13:41.36 | Tupone | how do you know. That moto could be just an 1:50 scale |
| 13:42.01 | Birdie | she wouldnt place such pic on bzbb from herself |
| 13:43.10 | Tupone | that I why I said the pic is too much fantastic. That is just unreal |
| 13:43.32 | menotume | Birdie: I don't think that anyone believes that is really her :) |
| 13:43.41 | Birdie | some did... |
| 13:44.29 | menotume | well, i never even said that is RebelChick |
| 13:44.37 | menotume | i just put RC as the caption :p |
| 13:45.32 | Birdie | i hope she posts her real pic soon |
| 13:45.44 | Birdie | we can also use more "nicole "pics:) |
| 13:45.55 | jpa- | http://pics.bzleague.com/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=2 eww cutie orangepie |
| 13:45.58 | menotume | those who haven't put their own pic up yet, should'nt say that :) |
| 13:46.40 | Birdie | you dont want jpa |
| 13:46.41 | Birdie | he is blond |
| 13:46.56 | menotume | Chestal: ping |
| 13:46.56 | jpa- | so i wouldn't be compared to him.. |
| 13:52.45 | jpa- | haha, menotume looks like a pedophile :S |
| 13:53.11 | menotume | that's the word :) |
| 13:53.32 | menotume | i was speaking of you Birdie |
| 13:53.53 | Birdie | bah |
| 13:53.56 | menotume | those who haven't contributed, should not ask for more pics :) |
| 13:54.04 | Birdie | i said you will get it soon! |
| 13:54.07 | Birdie | 24th! |
| 13:54.09 | Birdie | and you know why |
| 13:54.15 | menotume | we'll see :) |
| 13:54.25 | Birdie | you know i dont have problems to give free my pic |
| 13:56.43 | Birdie | and you saw mine to btw |
| 13:57.21 | menotume | heh |
| 14:08.06 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:08.06 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: Added bzfs /sendhelp command. |
| 14:08.06 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: Idea and initial implementation by Mike Weisenborn (orange). |
| 14:08.06 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: Reorganized by menotume. |
| 14:09.11 | menotume | Birdie: http://pics.bzleague.com/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=2&pos=0 |
| 14:09.28 | Birdie | lol |
| 14:09.33 | Birdie | thats not an eagle like i am;) |
| 14:09.53 | jpa- | that is cuuuutie |
| 14:18.33 | ToughShooter | Looks good but is too small |
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| 14:25.18 | geoffrey | how wide is a tank? |
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| 14:27.07 | jpa- | ack |
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| 14:27.32 | meacan | .. |
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| 14:28.07 | ToughShooter | _tankWidth maybe |
| 14:28.14 | ToughShooter | _tankWidth maybe |
| 14:28.32 | geoffrey | 2.8 units by default... |
| 14:50.10 | geoffrey | sigh... |
| 14:50.17 | geoffrey | i wish there was a half pyrimid |
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| 15:02.18 | blast007 | geoffrey: there can be any shapes....just use a mesh |
| 15:02.37 | blast007 | fire up a 3D modeler like blender or Wings 3D :) |
| 15:02.55 | geoffrey | i suck at any 3D modeling :) |
| 15:03.31 | jpa- | use bzmap :) |
| 15:04.31 | jpa- | p = Pyramid(Point(2.0,2.0,2.0)) - Pyramid(Point(1.0,1.0,1.0)).translate(Point(z=1.0)) |
| 15:05.03 | geoffrey | bzmap? |
| 15:05.58 | jpa- | bzflag maps through python, http://bzflag.tuxee.net/ and http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/bzmap.php |
| 15:08.05 | blast007 | woah |
| 15:08.07 | geoffrey | ah |
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| 16:02.23 | a_monkey | how do i view a .php file properly? |
| 16:02.31 | a_monkey | (on mac) |
| 16:02.51 | blast007 | view the source code? a text editor.. |
| 16:03.09 | blast007 | just like on any other OS |
| 16:03.59 | a_monkey | not view the source code |
| 16:04.06 | a_monkey | view it how it is supposed to look |
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| 16:06.37 | a_monkey | there's some faq that's a php file, and when i open it up, it opens in a web browser, but it's the original source code, and too hard to read that way. |
| 16:06.51 | blast007 | well, you need apache/PHP |
| 16:07.36 | a_monkey | i have a command called "php"... |
| 16:07.48 | blast007 | might be able to output to a file then |
| 16:07.57 | blast007 | s/a file/an HTML file/ |
| 16:09.02 | learner | it was related to a bunch of relocation issues -- if you built brl-cad to install in /usr/brlcad, yet actually installed it in /usr/local or somewhere else there were a variety of relocation problems |
| 16:09.07 | learner | ~ww |
| 16:09.08 | ibot | Tee hee .. idiot. |
| 16:13.42 | JeffM2501 | I asume the ibot is having problems? |
| 16:18.30 | jomojo | man oh man what i wouldn't give to permanently mute a player.. I mean i have people on my server who go on and on about nothing.. I could ban them.. But they did nothing really wrong besides annoy everyone and ignore the pleas to shut up |
| 16:20.39 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Did you got my botmail? |
| 16:22.53 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 16:22.56 | JeffM2501 | but I can't change it |
| 16:23.00 | JeffM2501 | check it I mean |
| 16:24.03 | ToughShooter | Should I try to tell you again? |
| 16:24.23 | JeffM2501 | well do you want me to know what you said? |
| 16:24.26 | ToughShooter | ibot is not him-/her-/itself today it seems |
| 16:24.42 | JeffM2501 | probalby and upgrade |
| 16:24.47 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I found out what caused my segfaults, it was your commit http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag/.message/5518318 |
| 16:25.10 | JeffM2501 | the default config dir? |
| 16:25.12 | learner | jomojo, start a poll to have him temp banned for being annoying -- then let the players decide |
| 16:25.14 | JeffM2501 | are you specifying one? |
| 16:25.27 | ToughShooter | I can't say which file |
| 16:25.43 | jomojo | learner: that's no fun.. |
| 16:25.59 | JeffM2501 | do you run bzflag with -configdir? |
| 16:26.35 | ToughShooter | I did many checkouts and complete recompiles and I'm sure it was this one |
| 16:26.35 | ToughShooter | No, I don't. Just bzflag;exit |
| 16:26.36 | jomojo | but practical |
| 16:26.38 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 16:26.40 | JeffM2501 | let me look |
| 16:29.22 | ToughShooter | -configdir doesn't change behaviour. the client insist of segmentationfaults |
| 16:29.53 | JeffM2501 | didn't think it would change anything |
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| 16:31.16 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: This is backtrace I did with gdb: http://pastebin.com/354481 |
| 16:32.03 | JeffM2501 | your stack is blown |
| 16:32.59 | ToughShooter | It's tough to get something more obvious but I don't know what to do against it |
| 16:33.13 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to do any more |
| 16:34.19 | JeffM2501 | when does it die? |
| 16:34.31 | JeffM2501 | right on launch? |
| 16:34.36 | ToughShooter | It dies within launching process |
| 16:34.49 | ToughShooter | So even the arrow in dock doesn't show |
| 16:35.17 | ToughShooter | It just bounces in dock and then stop, no window opened |
| 16:35.35 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 16:37.53 | ToughShooter | Here's the checkouts I tested - make sure I was right regarding your commit. Two brains are better than one. http://pastebin.com/354484 |
| 16:39.01 | JeffM2501 | umm just hang untill I can run it in a debuger |
| 16:40.21 | JeffM2501 | hmm works on windows |
| 16:40.26 | JeffM2501 | let me restart to linux |
| 16:40.29 | JeffM2501 | OSX is building |
| 16:40.31 | JeffM2501 | it's slow |
| 16:41.46 | JeffM2501 | it's so nice to finaly have all 3 majors on my desk :) |
| 16:43.38 | DTRemenak | now you just need solaris and irix and beos and... :) |
| 16:44.50 | ToughShooter | BeOS is dead, I don't expect a rebirth of it :/ |
| 16:45.26 | JeffM2501 | naw my cut off is 5% |
| 16:46.02 | ToughShooter | It had such a nice file system.HFS(+|x) is soo slow that user accounts get slower with time due to many pref files in one dir. :( |
| 16:46.13 | JeffM2501 | hmm I can't build on mac |
| 16:46.20 | JeffM2501 | learner, ping |
| 16:46.26 | ToughShooter | Have you updated libtool? |
| 16:46.36 | JeffM2501 | seem to be missing libares |
| 16:47.07 | JeffM2501 | there is an update for libtool tho |
| 16:47.09 | ToughShooter | I only needed SDL + a newer version of libtool |
| 16:48.01 | JeffM2501 | well linux dosn't crash ether |
| 16:50.43 | JeffM2501 | ar: ares_version.o~ranlib: No such file or directory |
| 16:50.43 | JeffM2501 | make[2]: *** [libcares.la] Error 1 |
| 16:50.43 | JeffM2501 | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 16:50.43 | JeffM2501 | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 16:51.27 | ToughShooter | That would indicate a too old version of libtool, AFAIR |
| 16:51.39 | JeffM2501 | just updated libtool |
| 16:51.51 | ToughShooter | I had the same error until I updated libtool to 1.5.18_0 |
| 16:52.27 | ToughShooter | but I haven't updated autotools (automake) |
| 16:52.28 | JeffM2501 | how does one find out what version of libtool one has |
| 16:53.10 | meacan | libtool --version |
| 16:53.26 | ToughShooter | no |
| 16:53.57 | meacan | no? |
| 16:54.22 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 16:54.23 | meacan | mine tells me that im running 1.5.6 of gnu libtool |
| 16:54.37 | ToughShooter | Man page says libtool -V but that's not the real number |
| 16:54.45 | JeffM2501 | are you on a mac meacan ? |
| 16:55.03 | ToughShooter | I got my new libtool via darwinports |
| 16:55.04 | meacan | no, linux. But isnt it the same tools (gnu based) |
| 16:55.21 | JeffM2501 | not quite the same |
| 16:55.23 | JeffM2501 | similar |
| 16:59.45 | JeffM2501 | my fink only has 1.3.5 of libtool |
| 17:01.32 | ToughShooter | Too old, I suppose |
| 17:01.46 | JeffM2501 | how does one tell fink there are newer ones? |
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| 17:38.48 | ToughShooter | For darwinports there is the maintainer e-mail shown for packages ;) |
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| 18:06.28 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I would suggest writing an e-mail to the adress specified at http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/libtool and hope someone updates libtool |
| 18:09.21 | Chestal | hmm, a friend gets : undefined reference to `pthread_key_create' etc. when building bzflag on Debian. I think this is somehow related to nvidia drivers. Someone has a similar setup and/or knows how to fix it? |
| 18:09.40 | learner | JeffM2501: pong |
| 18:09.55 | Chestal | I am pretty sure I have seen this problem before, trying to google for it |
| 18:11.08 | learner | Chestal, sounds familiar to me too, like the nvidia drivers linking in -lpthread shared and there being no -lpthread being specified by our configure |
| 18:11.49 | learner | maybe make LDFLAGS="-lpthread" works |
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| 18:13.09 | learner | ToughShooter, you shouldn't have had to update libtool if you had the latest dev tools installed, though the ~ranlib thing is a libtool bug |
| 18:13.24 | Chestal | we really need to fix the Debian package |
| 18:13.40 | Chestal | I still don't understand why the fix should have caused problems |
| 18:14.12 | learner | i think tim's feeling on the matter was that nvidia is providing broken libraries so he didn't want to just work around it |
| 18:14.28 | Chestal | no, I am talkign about the broken gcc4-Debian builds |
| 18:14.37 | learner | ahh |
| 18:14.48 | learner | same ranlib problem? |
| 18:15.15 | Chestal | the clients don't work, jumpign around, insane jitter values, caused by PackFloat bug |
| 18:15.39 | Chestal | but as I understand it, a backport of the fix to Pack.cxx was tried and caused 'other' problems, I have no clues which |
| 18:15.39 | learner | that's right, it's all coming back to me now |
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| 18:24.13 | Legolas | ~bzfquery 69.229.118.36:5154 |
| 18:24.53 | Legolas | ~bzfquery 69.229.118.36:5154 |
| 18:24.57 | Legolas | ibot |
| 18:25.24 | Legolas | ibot, speak |
| 18:25.26 | ibot | ARFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 18:25.38 | Legolas | ibot, ~bzfquery 69.229.118.36:5154 |
| 18:25.51 | Legolas | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.59 | learner | Legolas, cut it out |
| 18:26.17 | Legolas | it isnt working why isnt ibot working at that command??? |
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| 18:26.50 | learner | because someone's impatient |
| 18:27.30 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:27.42 | JeffM2501 | I think that defines the kids these days |
| 18:27.42 | ruskie | everyone expects results before they type the command |
| 18:27.59 | ruskie | not just kids... a lot of ppl are that way |
| 18:28.03 | JeffM2501 | learner, how would one go about upgrading yon libtool on my mini? |
| 18:28.22 | learner | JeffM2501, if you have the latest dev tools installed, you shouldn't need to upgrade anything |
| 18:28.43 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 18:28.51 | JeffM2501 | geting an error when building now |
| 18:28.59 | learner | if you're getting the ranlib error, there's probably another way around it |
| 18:29.07 | ruskie | it's the dumb user approach to want stuff immediately or to demand stuff |
| 18:29.10 | JeffM2501 | yeah for ares |
| 18:29.14 | ToughShooter | learner: It didn't worked with the built-in libtool version. brlcad told me it would be a incompatible libtool + automake-version. After updating libtool it worked fine for me and I had the same error. |
| 18:29.24 | JeffM2501 | what would the proper way to fix that be? |
| 18:29.45 | learner | first have to figure out what actually autogen'd |
| 18:30.02 | JeffM2501 | is there a log? |
| 18:30.41 | learner | no, but it's only a couple things to check |
| 18:30.41 | ToughShooter | learner: The plugins are supposed to be bundles, correct? |
| 18:30.49 | learner | first do you have an acinclude.m4 |
| 18:31.03 | learner | ToughShooter, not really, though they could be |
| 18:31.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:31.14 | learner | there are like 3 ways to make loadable libs |
| 18:31.22 | JeffM2501 | I have it |
| 18:31.32 | learner | JeffM2501, cat acinclude.m4, does it say it's libtool.m4 ? |
| 18:32.14 | learner | probably does |
| 18:32.31 | learner | delete it and rerun ./autogen.sh -v |
| 18:32.39 | JeffM2501 | yes it says that at the top |
| 18:32.41 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:33.16 | JeffM2501 | Checking autoconf version: autoconf --version |
| 18:33.16 | JeffM2501 | Found GNU Autoconf version 2.59 |
| 18:33.16 | JeffM2501 | Checking automake version: automake --version |
| 18:33.16 | JeffM2501 | Found GNU Automake version 1.9.4 |
| 18:33.16 | JeffM2501 | Checking autoreconf version: autoreconf --version |
| 18:33.16 | JeffM2501 | Checking libtoolize version: libtoolize --version |
| 18:33.20 | JeffM2501 | Found GNU Libtool version 1.3.5 |
| 18:33.20 | learner | that's what's causing the ranlib problem, but that begs the next question is why autogen thought that you needed it |
| 18:33.33 | learner | oh wow |
| 18:34.07 | learner | that sounds bogus |
| 18:34.13 | ToughShooter | learner: I used -fno-common -bundle -flat_namespace -undefined suppress and the sample plugin compiled but bzfs was shocked about the plugin. Did I had the wrong approach? |
| 18:34.28 | JeffM2501 | that's what it says |
| 18:34.42 | JeffM2501 | I do get ERROR: To prepare the BZFlag build system from scratch, |
| 18:34.42 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.46 | learner | JeffM2501, 1.3.5 is ancient -- and not what apple ships |
| 18:34.52 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 18:34.57 | learner | which glibtoolize |
| 18:35.00 | JeffM2501 | wonder if I have more then one |
| 18:35.14 | ToughShooter | My system came with 1.3.5, too, AFAIR |
| 18:35.24 | JeffM2501 | Anita:~/bzflag jeffm$ which glibtoolize |
| 18:35.35 | JeffM2501 | bahh |
| 18:35.44 | JeffM2501 | /sw/bin/glibtoolize |
| 18:35.47 | learner | aha |
| 18:35.51 | learner | the culprit |
| 18:36.04 | JeffM2501 | do I have an old one from fink or something? |
| 18:36.14 | learner | run, /usr/bin/glibtoolize --version |
| 18:36.35 | JeffM2501 | 1.5 |
| 18:36.42 | learner | that's apple's |
| 18:36.51 | JeffM2501 | so kill the sw one? |
| 18:37.04 | learner | so fink is taking precedence |
| 18:37.13 | JeffM2501 | fink can suck it |
| 18:37.13 | learner | you can either move fink to later in your PATH |
| 18:37.23 | learner | or just delete it from fink |
| 18:37.29 | learner | fink uninstall libtool or somesuch |
| 18:37.59 | learner | fink remove libtool |
| 18:38.07 | JeffM2501 | done |
| 18:38.25 | learner | make sure you don't have an acinclude.m4 again, the reautogen.sh |
| 18:39.11 | JeffM2501 | told me it was named glibtoolize and not libtoolize but it was just a warning |
| 18:39.24 | learner | right |
| 18:39.45 | learner | apple missed a symbolic link in their install, it's non-standard but mostly harmless |
| 18:40.07 | JeffM2501 | configures running now |
| 18:40.18 | learner | it can cause autoreconf to fail, but autogen.sh takes care of all that so it doesn't really matter |
| 18:41.23 | learner | ToughShooter, in brief yes -- wrong approach |
| 18:41.28 | learner | try door #2 :) |
| 18:41.56 | learner | i worked up a couple of the plugins while I was en route to south carolina as dynamic libs that hopefully bzfs will eat |
| 18:42.21 | JeffM2501 | still got the ranlib problem |
| 18:42.29 | JeffM2501 | ar: ares_version.o~ranlib: No such file or directory |
| 18:42.34 | learner | rm *cache* |
| 18:42.45 | learner | make distclean |
| 18:42.54 | learner | rm acinclude.m4 |
| 18:43.05 | learner | ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make |
| 18:43.23 | learner | autogen.sh -v again |
| 18:43.37 | learner | see if it says cp misc/libtool.m4 acinclude.m4 |
| 18:43.55 | JeffM2501 | it's "preparing the build" |
| 18:47.46 | JeffM2501 | no it did not cay cp for libtool.m4 |
| 18:48.18 | JeffM2501 | http://pastebin.com/354580 |
| 18:48.36 | JeffM2501 | and it still failed |
| 18:54.55 | brlcad | and the error is still ranlib, eh? |
| 18:55.31 | brlcad | which automake |
| 18:56.29 | brlcad | apples should be 1.6 iirc |
| 18:56.42 | brlcad | anything newer/older would probably be fink again |
| 18:57.26 | brlcad | automake and libtool have to play together in sync, if they are installed out of sync, you get a substitution error -- that "~" should be a newline |
| 18:58.22 | ToughShooter | To deliver a comparision of versions that's my autogen output (it compiles for me) |
| 18:58.23 | ToughShooter | http://pastebin.com/354583 |
| 19:01.53 | brlcad | ToughShooter: if you build a bundle, you'd have to use the Carbon bundle loader routines instead of dlopen() |
| 19:02.03 | brlcad | they can both/either work, but it's a rather different approach |
| 19:10.20 | JeffM2501 | let me fink remove automake |
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| 19:10.28 | JeffM2501 | I did a fink update all thing recently |
| 19:13.27 | JeffM2501 | I had automake 1.9 from fink |
| 19:14.37 | brlcad | they can play together, but fink can't override the system stuff unless you want to keep all the fink stuff in sync |
| 19:14.40 | brlcad | which is no fun |
| 19:14.51 | JeffM2501 | if i don't need the fink then I'll remove the fink |
| 19:15.10 | JeffM2501 | I think it's left over from my 10.3 install |
| 19:15.24 | JeffM2501 | I just had fink remove automake and autoconf |
| 19:28.28 | a_monkey | somebody asked me what my isp email address is... |
| 19:28.35 | a_monkey | what's that? :/ |
| 19:28.55 | JeffM2501 | the email address of your ISP |
| 19:29.18 | a_monkey | oh |
| 19:29.26 | a_monkey | ah i see |
| 19:29.57 | a_monkey | now it makes sense. :) |
| 19:35.31 | purple_cow | well, either that or an email address provided by your ISP |
| 19:35.34 | purple_cow | since most of them do that |
| 20:05.08 | JeffM2501 | hmm now to find out why only OSX freaks |
| 20:05.28 | brlcad | still not working?? |
| 20:05.40 | JeffM2501 | it builds |
| 20:05.49 | JeffM2501 | there is a crash only in OSX tho |
| 20:05.56 | JeffM2501 | relating to something I just did |
| 20:06.12 | JeffM2501 | runing in GDB now |
| 20:06.23 | brlcad | ah |
| 20:06.26 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 20:06.42 | JeffM2501 | bahh I'm stupid |
| 20:06.53 | JeffM2501 | extern in the wrong spot :) |
| 20:06.59 | JeffM2501 | or not |
| 20:07.00 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 20:12.09 | JeffM2501 | wondering why apple's SDL implementation behaved difrently then windows or linux |
| 20:12.30 | JeffM2501 | one would think calling size of a new std::string would return 0 |
| 20:13.11 | ToughShooter | Well, no one had the crashes I had with 2.0.3 DEVEL...2.0.2 STABLE worked perfect for window switching |
| 20:13.31 | JeffM2501 | I know where the crash is |
| 20:13.39 | JeffM2501 | but the code should work fine |
| 20:13.44 | JeffM2501 | it works on the other OSs |
| 20:13.48 | JeffM2501 | and it's not tricky at all |
| 20:14.01 | JeffM2501 | I mean |
| 20:14.04 | JeffM2501 | if (customConfigDir.size()) |
| 20:14.04 | JeffM2501 | return customConfigDir; |
| 20:14.04 | JeffM2501 | if (customConfigDir.size()) |
| 20:14.04 | JeffM2501 | return customConfigDir; |
| 20:14.11 | ToughShooter | Don't discontinue Mac version please |
| 20:14.12 | JeffM2501 | it's not rocket science |
| 20:14.24 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, why would we do that? |
| 20:14.51 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I'm fearing one of my most loved apps |
| 20:14.58 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 20:15.08 | JeffM2501 | who said anything about discontinuing it? |
| 20:15.18 | JeffM2501 | I'm trying to fix it |
| 20:15.20 | ToughShooter | Noone, I'm only paranoid |
| 20:16.52 | JeffM2501 | worse case, I just move the offending code into the win and linux sections |
| 20:16.57 | JeffM2501 | but there is no reason this shoudln't work |
| 20:17.04 | JeffM2501 | unless it's a name conflict |
| 20:18.46 | ToughShooter | That reminds me of an auto-update feature I made in an app. It worked perfectly on all my machines but crashed on other computers. In addition to that it didn't crashed when being debugged on another machine... |
| 20:20.06 | JeffM2501 | some debugers init all vars to 0 |
| 20:20.19 | JeffM2501 | that prevents many errors with uniited vars |
| 20:20.52 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (6 files in 4 dirs): begin building the plugins as shared libraries through libtool. start with RogueGenocide and airspawn. this will of course need lots of testing and perhaps some libtool flag tweaking still. |
| 20:20.54 | ToughShooter | It was an Heisenbug in my case |
| 20:21.38 | trepan | the dir name funcs are probably used in other classes during init |
| 20:21.59 | JeffM2501 | it's just pulling from a global |
| 20:22.11 | trepan | should it be global? |
| 20:22.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:22.20 | JeffM2501 | it's only set once |
| 20:22.28 | JeffM2501 | if it's not set, it's never used |
| 20:22.39 | trepan | it should be 'static'ed |
| 20:22.41 | JeffM2501 | it should construct to 0 len |
| 20:22.45 | JeffM2501 | it IS STATICED |
| 20:23.01 | JeffM2501 | and it still fails |
| 20:23.24 | trepan | isn't static in CVS... should be |
| 20:23.31 | JeffM2501 | not not in CVS |
| 20:23.34 | JeffM2501 | in my testing here |
| 20:23.45 | JeffM2501 | that was my first thing, I'm like "oh it needs to be static" |
| 20:24.10 | trepan | prolly wouldn't help resolve init dependencies |
| 20:24.31 | trepan | but nice to keep the linking namespace a little cleaner regardless ;) |
| 20:24.44 | JeffM2501 | all I want to do is check and see if somone has set a custom config dir |
| 20:26.16 | JeffM2501 | it's not used in any static functions, or anyting |
| 20:26.20 | JeffM2501 | a simple global should work |
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| 20:26.27 | JeffM2501 | it's just in that one file |
| 20:26.30 | JeffM2501 | one function to set it |
| 20:26.37 | JeffM2501 | and one that uses it |
| 20:26.58 | JeffM2501 | and when it returns it, it even returns a COPY |
| 20:27.35 | brlcad | it's initialized to empty string? |
| 20:27.35 | JeffM2501 | and it works on linux and windows |
| 20:27.42 | JeffM2501 | it's std::string |
| 20:27.48 | JeffM2501 | it suposed to constuct to empty |
| 20:27.54 | JeffM2501 | but i've set it to empty too |
| 20:27.58 | JeffM2501 | and it still pukes |
| 20:28.51 | JeffM2501 | run your cvs copy and see |
| 20:32.56 | brlcad | those plugin changes need some linux testing to see if they still work or if more flags are needed |
| 20:34.14 | JeffM2501 | that I can do |
| 20:34.28 | JeffM2501 | now that the main is set to dualboot |
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| 20:35.56 | JeffM2501 | and I got bz to run in a res other then 264881200 |
| 20:36.31 | JeffM2501 | 2648*1200 I mean |
| 20:38.58 | trepan | JeffM2501: do you know when it's puking? (during a class init?) |
| 20:39.21 | JeffM2501 | line 53, when it tests the size in the if |
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| 20:39.33 | JeffM2501 | oh in the backtracce |
| 20:40.34 | JeffM2501 | http://pastebin.com/354664 |
| 20:41.27 | trepan | obvious prob, no? |
| 20:41.35 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Why did I got these strange "??" and you don't? |
| 20:41.39 | JeffM2501 | I'm not good at read them |
| 20:42.05 | JeffM2501 | is the global not being inited? |
| 20:42.07 | JeffM2501 | and why not? |
| 20:42.49 | trepan | sry, vietnamese food calls... it's definitely an order prob (AccessList is using a dir func()) |
| 20:43.14 | JeffM2501 | mmmmmm dog with sauce |
| 20:43.26 | trepan | pho |
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| 20:57.34 | JeffM2501 | learner, just build bz from source, and shockwave death and it worked fine |
| 21:04.27 | brlcad | cool |
| 21:06.59 | JeffM2501 | on the crash thing, I have 0 clue |
| 21:07.05 | JeffM2501 | and have to go feed the fish |
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| 22:25.00 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/DirectoryNames.h: |
| 22:25.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: fix the static initializer ordering dependency borkage by wrapping access |
| 22:25.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: through a function instead of utilizing a global (static or otherwise). |
| 22:25.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: otherwise the initialization cannot be guaranteed -- getConfigDirName is used as |
| 22:25.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: an initializer for static variables elsewhere and must be called before the |
| 22:25.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: global necessarily exists. |
| 22:26.17 | brlcad | oop, might as well finish the commit |
| 22:26.42 | Pimpinella | seems i'm too drunken to understand that |
| 22:26.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/game/DirectoryNames.cxx: |
| 22:26.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: fix the static initializer ordering dependency borkage by wrapping access |
| 22:26.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: through a function instead of utilizing a global (static or otherwise). |
| 22:26.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: otherwise the initialization cannot be guaranteed -- getConfigDirName is used as |
| 22:26.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: an initializer for static variables elsewhere and must be called before the |
| 22:27.00 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: global necessarily exists. |
| 22:27.44 | brlcad | a bit too early to be coding plastered yet |
| 22:27.55 | brlcad | so how do I test these plugin things? |
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| 22:28.45 | geoffrey | hi |
| 22:29.51 | brlcad | hola |
| 22:31.36 | geoffrey | UGM 'ere |
| 22:31.54 | geoffrey | anyone able to translate one line of french to english for me? |
| 22:32.00 | Birdie | go ahead |
| 22:32.01 | DTRemenak | brlcad: bzfs -loadplugin /path/to/pluginname.whateverdynamiclibraryextensionthemacuses |
| 22:32.13 | geoffrey | le mec qui gere ca a 13 ans |
| 22:33.59 | blast007 | something about "13 years old" |
| 22:34.46 | wegstar | ummm |
| 22:34.54 | geoffrey | google translate: the guy who gere Ca is 13 years old |
| 22:35.04 | Birdie | i dunno gere.. |
| 22:35.17 | geoffrey | that\s the same problem i have... |
| 22:35.35 | blast007 | babelfish gives the same :) |
| 22:36.10 | Birdie | une gère = a war but i doubt its that:) |
| 22:36.21 | geoffrey | :) |
| 22:36.29 | geoffrey | post on some french fora... |
| 22:36.36 | geoffrey | approx translation: |
| 22:36.49 | geoffrey | http://geoffers.uni.cc the guy is 13 years old |
| 22:37.01 | geoffrey | he already speaks like masklinn on his blog |
| 22:37.10 | geoffrey | (masklinn is a member of that fora) |
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| 22:38.50 | brlcad | DTRemenak: danka |
| 22:39.07 | DTRemenak | de nada |
| 22:40.02 | brlcad | well it doesn't give an error if I give it the plugin |
| 22:40.12 | brlcad | ship it! |
| 22:49.55 | brlcad | and nay a single mac user to rejoice |
| 22:51.05 | geoffrey | eh? |
| 22:56.40 | Pimpinella | geoffrey: where did u get it? |
| 22:56.47 | Pimpinella | that line |
| 22:56.52 | geoffrey | what line? |
| 22:57.03 | geoffrey | what URI? |
| 22:57.05 | geoffrey | what fora? |
| 22:57.07 | Pimpinella | le mec qui gere ca a 13 ans |
| 22:57.19 | geoffrey | http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/Programmation/BlaBla-Programmation-sujet-37483-8960.htm |
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| 23:09.55 | geoffrey | bye |
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| 23:17.29 | bytecoder | *sigh* |
| 23:17.45 | bytecoder | I can't believe I forgot my password... |
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