| 00:10.54 | *** join/#bzflag qbwwdp (n=lexiana@dsl081-117-104.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:11.04 | qbwwdp | hey, what happened to britsystems.com |
| 00:11.19 | qbwwdp | anyone body use that server |
| 00:11.23 | qbwwdp | anyone home |
| 00:11.25 | qbwwdp | oye |
| 00:11.29 | qbwwdp | wake up fats |
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| 00:11.31 | RPG_ | we're home, just sleeping |
| 00:11.41 | qbwwdp | you got monday off? |
| 00:12.21 | RPG_ | yep |
| 00:12.24 | RPG_ | who doesnt? |
| 00:12.41 | qbwwdp | people who work at burger king |
| 00:12.48 | qbwwdp | do you work at burger king? |
| 00:13.01 | RPG_ | nope |
| 00:13.04 | JeffM2501 | cops don't get it off |
| 00:13.08 | JeffM2501 | nor do firemen |
| 00:13.13 | RPG_ | nor do BZFlag devs :) |
| 00:13.18 | JeffM2501 | or people in countrys that don't celbrate it |
| 00:13.34 | qbwwdp | what is it monay any way? |
| 00:13.39 | qbwwdp | why do we have a day off? |
| 00:13.47 | qbwwdp | is it thanks giving? |
| 00:13.50 | blast007 | cuz the sky is scheduled to fall |
| 00:14.49 | JeffM2501 | it's labor day |
| 00:15.07 | qbwwdp | fine labor day where one gets a day off from labor |
| 00:15.55 | JeffM2501 | where do you work? |
| 00:16.17 | qbwwdp | i work for a radiology software company |
| 00:18.11 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 00:18.21 | qbwwdp | no, it's not fun |
| 00:18.37 | qbwwdp | damn fucking doctors calling, this does not work, how do i use this tool and all that crap |
| 00:18.55 | JeffM2501 | please watch your language |
| 00:19.06 | qbwwdp | doctors are just plain dumb when it comes to software or computers |
| 00:19.37 | qbwwdp | JeffM2501: are you a doctor? you sound like one |
| 00:19.44 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:19.48 | ChipX86 | not all |
| 00:19.48 | ChipX86 | and why should they be smart about it? |
| 00:19.48 | ChipX86 | that's not their profession |
| 00:19.48 | ChipX86 | qbwwdp: I bet you're very dumb when it comes to brain surgery or ankle surgery or heart surgery |
| 00:20.09 | ChipX86 | but it's not dumb in a bad way. It's not your profession |
| 00:20.37 | I_Died_Once | I got Monday of fand I DON'T work at Burger King |
| 00:20.40 | qbwwdp | ChipX86: and you're just plain dumb overall |
| 00:20.43 | JeffM2501 | qbwwdp, this considered a famialy channel |
| 00:20.52 | JeffM2501 | qbwwdp, what? |
| 00:20.56 | ChipX86 | qbwwdp: you don't even know who I am or what I do |
| 00:21.03 | ChipX86 | qbwwdp: if you did, perhaps you wouldn't be calling me dumb |
| 00:21.05 | RPG_ | qbwwdp: too many calls today? |
| 00:21.58 | I_Died_Once | qbwwdp loves his mom, and YOU CAN TOO for ONLY $19.95 !!! |
| 00:22.17 | JeffM2501 | don't feed the troll |
| 00:22.26 | I_Died_Once | sry |
| 00:22.39 | qbwwdp | hahaha can't write properly when you are angry |
| 00:22.41 | I_Died_Once | That line usually goes over better on the server |
| 00:22.52 | qbwwdp | I_Died_Once: take your time there buddy |
| 00:22.53 | JeffM2501 | I_Died_Once, this is not your server |
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| 00:23.28 | JeffM2501 | qbwwdp, if you came here to just make people angry, then you will be removed |
| 00:24.53 | JeffM2501 | this channel is not for "trash talk" |
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| 01:18.29 | Meteorite | hey all |
| 01:20.09 | I_Died_Once | Yo |
| 01:21.24 | RPG_ | HI |
| 01:21.28 | I_Died_Once | Low |
| 01:21.37 | RPG_ | bunas noches |
| 01:22.00 | I_Died_Once | I can't believe they are switching SmackDown to Friday nights |
| 01:22.11 | I_Died_Once | Buenos Noches |
| 01:22.58 | wegstar_away | no.. it's Buenas Noches |
| 01:23.27 | I_Died_Once | Fine - how about "Hey! How they hangin' y'all?" |
| 01:24.16 | wegstar_away | ... |
| 01:24.36 | christof83 | is there any limit to the size a map can be? |
| 01:25.51 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:25.56 | JeffM2501 | use a "world" object |
| 01:26.54 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, ping |
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| 01:27.08 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: pong |
| 01:27.10 | I_Died_Once | Ding! Fries are done! |
| 01:27.23 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, so I have a new nix install |
| 01:27.32 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 01:27.32 | JeffM2501 | and it says it can't find g++ or c++ |
| 01:27.37 | DTRemenak | so install it |
| 01:27.40 | JeffM2501 | what am I missing |
| 01:27.47 | DTRemenak | probably, uh, g++ :) |
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| 01:27.54 | JeffM2501 | apt-get install g++ says it's up to date |
| 01:27.59 | I_Died_Once | I would say you are missing g++ and c++ |
| 01:28.06 | DTRemenak | then something is borked |
| 01:28.13 | JeffM2501 | or it's part of another package |
| 01:28.20 | DTRemenak | assuming your system db is up to date, do a "locate g++" |
| 01:28.23 | I_Died_Once | what are you using, Suse 9.1 personal ?? |
| 01:28.28 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:28.39 | JeffM2501 | kubuntu |
| 01:28.40 | DTRemenak | if he were using suse he would not be using apt :) |
| 01:28.42 | I_Died_Once | I was gonna suggest the FTP update |
| 01:29.07 | JeffM2501 | g++ is in apt archices thats it |
| 01:29.23 | JeffM2501 | I recall there was some "standard" package of utlitys I was missing |
| 01:30.03 | DTRemenak | hmm |
| 01:30.06 | I_Died_Once | I tried ubuntu, didn't like it |
| 01:30.40 | DTRemenak | "i just switched...to kubuntu 5.04. there is no /usr/bin/g++ by default (you have to set the link manually to /usr/bin/g++-3.4 or whatever)" |
| 01:31.00 | DTRemenak | google is my friend :) |
| 01:31.13 | JeffM2501 | so I make a link? |
| 01:31.17 | DTRemenak | apparently |
| 01:31.42 | JeffM2501 | I get warnings from cstdlib too |
| 01:31.47 | JeffM2501 | "present but not compiled" |
| 01:31.55 | DTRemenak | fun |
| 01:32.05 | DTRemenak | that'd be enough to make me drop the distro, personally :) |
| 01:32.23 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:32.25 | DTRemenak | if it can't compile crap out of the box... |
| 01:32.43 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 01:33.00 | JeffM2501 | because scanlime recomended it, usualy he's one of those smart guys :) |
| 01:33.18 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 01:34.08 | JeffM2501 | there we go |
| 01:34.14 | JeffM2501 | one ln and it's MUCH better :) |
| 01:41.35 | wegstar_away | :) |
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| 02:01.00 | bz9227 | hello, could someone help me with bzflag? |
| 02:01.19 | blast007 | we maybe could, if we knew the question ;) |
| 02:03.00 | trepan | didn't see that coming... ;) |
| 02:04.37 | *** join/#bzflag bz9227 (n=4527446c@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 02:05.00 | bz9227 | ok, sorry about that, i goofed something up here |
| 02:05.16 | bz9227 | i just downloaded 2.0.0 redhat 9 rpm and tried to run it |
| 02:06.12 | bz9227 | when i ran it it came up with just a black screen with the little captions at the bottom right quadrant of the screen, then nothing else happened and ESC and other keys did nothing- any thoughts? |
| 02:12.57 | *** join/#bzflag bz6144 (n=4527446c@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 02:14.05 | bz6144 | hello |
| 02:14.14 | *** join/#bzflag lvlinux (n=gospelpr@145-pool1.ras17.gaatl-i.alerondial.net) |
| 02:15.41 | blast007 | bz6144: well, do other OpenGL games work on your system? |
| 02:17.34 | lvlinux | yeah i had bzflag 1.10 and it worked fine also other opengl games |
| 02:18.00 | lvlinux | i do have a matrox g400 card that is hardware supported and then software fallback. |
| 02:18.55 | blast007 | lvlinux: ah, try deleting your configuration directory for bzflag |
| 02:19.09 | lvlinux | would that be in /etc or where? |
| 02:19.11 | blast007 | sometimes the config upgrade script doesn't work too well |
| 02:19.33 | blast007 | hmm, it's in your home directory |
| 02:19.42 | blast007 | do a 'ls -a' in there |
| 02:19.54 | blast007 | should be some directory starting with .bz |
| 02:20.53 | lvlinux | ah, yes (duh my home dir- i forgot about that) i have a .bzflag and a .bzf and a .bzflag-cache |
| 02:21.00 | lvlinux | should i delete all of them? |
| 02:21.26 | blast007 | try killing them all |
| 02:22.00 | lvlinux | ok, that must have been it, it runs fine now |
| 02:22.02 | lvlinux | thanks! |
| 02:22.22 | lvlinux | why did it do that, is it because of the incompatibilities with the 1.x and 2.x versions? |
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| 02:24.04 | RPG_ | hello |
| 02:24.17 | RPG_ | would it be feasable to put SSL on this page? http://my.bzflag.org/weblogin.php |
| 02:27.15 | lvlinux | well thanks a lot for the help, i appreciate it. see ya. |
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| 02:39.56 | christof83 | has anyone noticed that the instructions for compilation for bzfed say to run autogen.sh, but the tar file doesnt come with it? |
| 02:40.15 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:41.43 | blast007 | christof83: the source archive was already run with that |
| 02:41.50 | blast007 | so you just need to do ./configure and make |
| 02:41.54 | christof83 | oh |
| 03:13.01 | JeffM2501 | mmmmmmm CS2 |
| 03:13.09 | JeffM2501 | I hope it does PNG better |
| 03:13.28 | Meteorite | lol |
| 03:13.35 | Meteorite | Just get Photoshop CS2? |
| 03:13.50 | JeffM2501 | just got enought space to install it |
| 03:13.59 | Meteorite | lol |
| 03:14.04 | JeffM2501 | cs 1 blew for png and tga support |
| 03:14.18 | Meteorite | Would do anything for a pro photo editor |
| 03:14.35 | Meteorite | Except pay like $700 |
| 03:14.37 | Meteorite | :P{ |
| 03:14.39 | Meteorite | :P |
| 03:14.53 | JeffM2501 | it's not bad compared to other apps |
| 03:15.01 | JeffM2501 | max is a couple grand |
| 03:15.15 | JeffM2501 | hell our software is like 30k all decked out |
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| 03:17.34 | blast007 | Meteorite: and the reason that they can charge $600 for Photoshop is because people can use it to make profits |
| 03:18.00 | JeffM2501 | 600 for a company is chump change |
| 03:19.12 | blast007 | yup |
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| 03:30.18 | bz8884 | hi |
| 03:30.26 | bz8884 | test |
| 03:30.28 | blast007 | hello |
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| 03:51.21 | bryjen | wassit with people signing there own SSL certs? annoying popup warning >:| "Trust Us. We say we are who we say we are." |
| 03:53.06 | Grumbler | because people dont want to spend the money on some silly little cert that is usually bogus anyhow ? |
| 03:54.02 | bryjen | and why https to browse a wiki? |
| 03:54.57 | Grumbler | because |
| 03:55.56 | JeffM2501 | because the S makes it "SUPER" |
| 03:56.00 | Grumbler | yeah, not right now.......blasted jumping tanks ticked me off |
| 03:56.03 | JeffM2501 | and you can't be UBER and not SUPER |
| 03:57.36 | bryjen | ?? |
| 03:58.28 | Grumbler | record the ip, find the address and beat the carp out of them........not a great movie, but i left laughing for hours after the final scenes |
| 03:59.18 | bryjen | ones that try to break in, or just random lines from the log file ;) |
| 03:59.26 | orange | I enjoyed their scenes in chasing amy... not too much of them |
| 04:01.02 | Grumbler | it was hard to sit through the entire thing.....but the women in tight/skimpy clothing kept me from walking out |
| 04:04.46 | jomojo | is there a recent manual for admin commands that i can point my new cops towards? |
| 04:05.12 | jomojo | the newest one i have found is more for 1.10 than anything else |
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| 04:15.23 | Harlin | hi guys |
| 04:19.59 | orchid | hi Harlin |
| 04:20.17 | orchid | jomojo: the man pages are reasonably up to date |
| 04:23.15 | Aribeth | hi orchid |
| 04:23.29 | orchid | hey Aribeth |
| 04:31.02 | jomojo | i hear syntax of /ban is changing does anyone know how? |
| 04:44.26 | orange | jomojo: I just got you that :-) |
| 04:44.36 | orange | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5094 if others are interested |
| 04:45.12 | Harlin | hate banning others ... |
| 04:45.30 | Harlin | especially on someone else's server but alas it must be done <sigh> |
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| 15:35.24 | SportChick | Has anyone reported a bug allowing players to drive through buildings without OO or PZ? |
| 15:37.15 | SportChick | I have a guy running 2.0.2 windows stable claiming that he has not modded his client and he can do it - no lag issues |
| 15:37.40 | Grumbler | ask him what he is smoking |
| 15:37.57 | Aribeth | sounds like a cheat client to me |
| 15:38.26 | Aribeth | he may be trying to bamboozel you |
| 15:39.11 | SportChick | Aribeth: I've got to hop in the shower - do you have a sec to watch him on sp |
| 15:39.16 | SportChick | see if he offers to show you |
| 15:39.20 | SportChick | it's lddw |
| 15:39.25 | Aribeth | ok |
| 15:39.34 | Aribeth | on my way |
| 15:40.09 | Aribeth | he left |
| 15:41.56 | ToughShooter | I've seen that maps that players are using can be different on one server at the same time |
| 15:42.31 | Aribeth | heh lddw left right after i joined SP |
| 15:43.04 | Grumbler | was that before or after SportChick left |
| 15:43.26 | ToughShooter | Maybe you've scared lddw off |
| 15:43.26 | Aribeth | after she left. she wasnt there when i joined |
| 15:43.35 | Grumbler | he/she may have just left because the admin she/he was working with left |
| 15:43.44 | Aribeth | maybe |
| 15:44.18 | Grumbler | aw heck, just ban him/her and sort it out later :) |
| 15:44.40 | Aribeth | hummm...i just lost my connection to SP |
| 15:44.54 | Aribeth | can't reconnect |
| 15:46.03 | Aribeth | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5355 |
| 15:46.47 | Aribeth | ~bzflist |
| 15:47.02 | Aribeth | ??? |
| 15:47.12 | Aribeth | huh? |
| 15:47.43 | Aribeth | hummm...no list server |
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| 15:48.14 | bryjen | no bzbb either |
| 15:48.35 | Aribeth | hummm |
| 15:50.41 | Aribeth | what server are the forums on? |
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| 15:55.14 | Aribeth | hi nidhoggr |
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| 16:03.17 | supertanker | Greetings citizens! |
| 16:04.28 | supertanker | well one new thread that contains all 5 maps, not 5 different threads |
| 16:17.28 | supertanker | I got an all time low score today... |
| 16:17.36 | supertanker | I'm not going to tell you what it is. NEVER! |
| 16:22.50 | JeffM2501 | why is he the only one I see typing on any channel? |
| 16:22.58 | supertanker | I dunno |
| 16:23.11 | supertanker | Because everyone is at work/school/too bussy doing something else |
| 16:23.19 | ChipX86 | it's the supertanker. |
| 16:23.21 | JeffM2501 | I don't think so skip |
| 16:23.30 | ChipX86 | with the horrible genocide flag and lag |
| 16:24.15 | supertanker | ??? |
| 16:24.20 | supertanker | If you mean last nite.... |
| 16:24.20 | *** join/#bzflag ibunny (n=alex@pdpc/supporter/active/jolie) |
| 16:24.24 | JeffM2501 | I say he has other flags |
| 16:24.27 | ibunny | tada! |
| 16:24.30 | ChipX86 | supertanker: yep |
| 16:24.33 | supertanker | Yeah. like GM, sw, l... |
| 16:24.35 | supertanker | :) |
| 16:24.57 | supertanker | last nite was actualy the best I had ever played on bzflag... a score of 12, omg, and everyone else was againstme! |
| 16:25.00 | ChipX86 | every time you hit my girlfriend, it blew me up too. Made me sad, like a little duck |
| 16:25.14 | supertanker | Little Duck named sad? |
| 16:25.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 16:25.25 | JeffM2501 | ChipX86, 20$ and I can masterban him for ya |
| 16:25.33 | ChipX86 | JeffM2501: awesome |
| 16:25.34 | supertanker | harhar you are hilarious |
| 16:25.39 | JeffM2501 | and I'll give you the tacobeam discount |
| 16:25.41 | ChipX86 | JeffM2501: you won't do it for free for spooklight? :( |
| 16:26.07 | JeffM2501 | hell I'll do it just for the fun! |
| 16:26.15 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 16:26.20 | supertanker | Hey the only reason I kept killing him/her was because she was like 20 meeters from where I spawned' |
| 16:26.30 | ChipX86 | definite her |
| 16:26.34 | supertanker | WHat just because I had a good day your going to ban me? |
| 16:26.43 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 16:26.46 | ChipX86 | we're messing with you |
| 16:26.49 | JeffM2501 | didn't you know I'm evil? |
| 16:27.16 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/fanime/2005/dsc01987.jpg <-- that's the girl you kept killing :( |
| 16:27.35 | JeffM2501 | cosplay.... nice |
| 16:28.07 | JeffM2501 | ChipX86, you know you can send all of the "will you fix my computer" girls you don't want my way |
| 16:28.21 | supertanker | okay, ill let you know in an hour once hte image loads. |
| 16:28.21 | ChipX86 | JeffM2501: I don't have any "will you fix my computer" girls |
| 16:29.08 | JeffM2501 | wern't you complaining about the shirt yesterday? |
| 16:29.09 | supertanker | hey is that miami? Do you watch CSI: Miami? |
| 16:29.12 | JeffM2501 | or am I confusid |
| 16:29.14 | ChipX86 | supertanker: it's not |
| 16:29.23 | JeffM2501 | ChipX86, your up by scanline are you not? |
| 16:29.24 | ChipX86 | JeffM2501: I think that was.. hmm.. wasn't scanline, was it? |
| 16:29.27 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 16:29.41 | ibunny | nice pic.. i dont like the ... hairs on her hand tho. |
| 16:29.47 | JeffM2501 | when I get my license I should fly up there and we can all have lunch |
| 16:29.56 | ChipX86 | yeah definitely :) |
| 16:30.01 | JeffM2501 | ibunny, cosplay is hot |
| 16:30.03 | ChipX86 | ibunny: they're not always there |
| 16:30.18 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/photos/jamie1.jpg |
| 16:30.19 | ChipX86 | more normal pic |
| 16:30.29 | ibunny | hm.. |
| 16:30.33 | ibunny | preffer the other one |
| 16:30.42 | ibunny | the face looks better |
| 16:30.48 | _Manu_ | ibunny ibunny :) |
| 16:30.53 | ibunny | manu manu bonito |
| 16:31.01 | ChipX86 | face always looks good to me. |
| 16:31.03 | ibunny | porque ando flirteando con una chica, yo ??? |
| 16:32.07 | _Manu_ | quien es la chica? y como lo sabes? ;) |
| 16:32.15 | ibunny | i like the outfit too... |
| 16:32.31 | ibunny | creo q es ChipX86 |
| 16:32.43 | ibunny | porque hice click en la foto |
| 16:32.44 | ibunny | :P |
| 16:33.19 | _Manu_ | que inocente ;) |
| 16:33.28 | Aribeth | hi ibunny |
| 16:33.29 | ibunny | ta muy flaca tho :P |
| 16:33.34 | ibunny | Aribeth, !!! :** |
| 16:33.37 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 16:33.52 | supertanker | what is the screenshot button again? |
| 16:33.55 | ChipX86 | when talkign about myself and my girlfriend, can we use a language I understand? |
| 16:34.07 | ibunny | ChipX86, manu was asking how do I know you are a girl... and whos the girl., |
| 16:34.10 | ibunny | i said you. |
| 16:34.19 | ChipX86 | I'm not the girl |
| 16:34.22 | ChipX86 | I'm the girl's guy |
| 16:34.25 | orchid | heh |
| 16:34.25 | ibunny | ah thats your girl? |
| 16:34.29 | Aribeth | heh |
| 16:34.36 | ibunny | muahhaha |
| 16:34.46 | ibunny | i was wondering why was i flirting with a girl :P |
| 16:34.47 | ChipX86 | unless there's been some radical change taht hasn't been told to me yet |
| 16:34.52 | ibunny | since im a girl... |
| 16:35.07 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 16:35.25 | ChipX86 | I was posting it for the sake of supertanker, since the three of us were playing bzflag last night |
| 16:35.49 | supertanker | Um would someone tell me what button makes screenies for BZFlag under windows? |
| 16:35.54 | orchid | supertanker: F% I think |
| 16:36.00 | orchid | oops :) |
| 16:36.02 | orchid | 5 |
| 16:36.07 | supertanker | f5? |
| 16:36.14 | supertanker | ill try it in a min |
| 16:36.15 | orchid | da |
| 16:37.50 | supertanker | ypu f5 works. Thx I just forgot for a min |
| 16:39.18 | bryjen | F5 makes bzflag pause whilest it assembles a png from individual electrons |
| 16:39.46 | supertanker | yeah. You mean freeze for 10 minuets, right? Okay so thats an exageration but it does take awhile at my computers speed |
| 16:40.38 | supertanker | hey who wants to try playing on my dialup server? :) |
| 16:40.58 | supertanker | lagstats: 4500ms |
| 16:41.03 | supertanker | +/- 333ms |
| 16:42.11 | supertanker | http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/1vs1vs1vs1.jpg |
| 16:42.16 | supertanker | here is 1vs1vs1vs1 |
| 16:45.20 | *** part/#bzflag ibunny (n=alex@pdpc/supporter/active/jolie) |
| 16:56.44 | ChipX86 | supertanker: lag bad |
| 16:58.27 | supertanker | duh |
| 16:58.32 | supertanker | I have dialup |
| 16:58.44 | supertanker | That reminds me, you want to play on my dialup server? :) |
| 16:58.56 | ChipX86 | I have to work for a living, unfortunately |
| 16:59.22 | JeffM2501 | ahh the joy of work |
| 16:59.53 | ChipX86 | I love my job though |
| 16:59.53 | JeffM2501 | only 200 unread e-mails to wade thru :) |
| 16:59.59 | ChipX86 | and the work environment is beautiful |
| 17:00.09 | JeffM2501 | ChipX86, you sure you arn't one of those "dumb" doctors? ;) |
| 17:00.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 17:02.08 | supertanker | hey when I checked "Alert me of any replys to this thread", I had about 645 unread at one time...then again, yahoo simply said, "You are using 1% of your 1gb limit" |
| 17:02.51 | orchid | yahoo? |
| 17:03.03 | supertanker | Yahoo mail |
| 17:03.04 | ChipX86 | pfft, 1GB limits |
| 17:03.04 | JeffM2501 | limit? |
| 17:03.06 | supertanker | mail.yahoo.com |
| 17:03.12 | JeffM2501 | e-mail has limits? |
| 17:03.13 | supertanker | now its GMAIL for me |
| 17:03.19 | JeffM2501 | why would it have a limit? |
| 17:03.28 | supertanker | 'cause its free, and I thrive on free |
| 17:03.31 | JeffM2501 | I guess if the array filled up |
| 17:03.37 | JeffM2501 | I don't pay for my e-mail |
| 17:03.43 | JeffM2501 | it has no practical limit |
| 17:03.51 | supertanker | i found one that only gives you 125 megs (myway.com) but no huge ads, and its based on html, so its really fast. |
| 17:03.58 | supertanker | infact almost no ads |
| 17:04.42 | JeffM2501 | ad? |
| 17:04.54 | Tupone | quit |
| 17:05.00 | orchid | hmm, I have 101849 files in ~/ |
| 17:05.15 | supertanker | Yes jeff. An ad is a marketing tool placed on a webpage, tv, or other media that is used to generate popularity or revenue |
| 17:05.53 | orchid | ~sarcasm |
| 17:05.54 | ibot | Oh a sarcasm detector, that's a *really* useful invention! |
| 17:06.04 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 17:06.24 | supertanker | :) |
| 17:07.38 | wizart | What does this mean on the bzflag forum: Sorry, but this username has been disallowed ? |
| 17:08.15 | supertanker | I just got The Library by 343_Guilty_Spark (my old username, but now i'm SUPERDUPERTANKER!) onto my map area. For those of you who dont want to download yes there are screenies |
| 17:08.53 | orchid | wizart: illegal character's or its length maybe |
| 17:09.00 | orchid | what is the name? |
| 17:09.09 | wizart | taumler patie |
| 17:09.16 | wizart | my cousin can't get into tankwars |
| 17:09.17 | orchid | that sounds naughty |
| 17:09.47 | wizart | and he doesn''t know english well enough to fix in on his own |
| 17:09.55 | orchid | it might be a swear word in some language, I dunno as I never swear :) |
| 17:10.18 | wizart | hmm. It sure isn't a swear word in german |
| 17:10.29 | wizart | but I will try to use a dictionary on that. |
| 17:10.35 | wizart | eh. google |
| 17:11.17 | supertanker | google is the answer for everything. If you;ve ever seen Two and a Half Men, did you know you can actualy type in the guys name and it shows up? |
| 17:11.22 | wizart | hmm. it doesn't look like a swear word collision |
| 17:11.38 | orchid | nope, all the google hits are bzflag releated |
| 17:11.40 | JeffM2501 | supertanker, why would you want an ad in your e-mail? |
| 17:11.49 | wizart | I tried part of the name as well |
| 17:11.59 | wizart | no swear word there |
| 17:12.56 | supertanker | not IN the email, but arround it. |
| 17:13.09 | supertanker | as in, a banner along the top of the page. |
| 17:13.21 | JeffM2501 | you have adds in thunderbird? |
| 17:13.23 | JeffM2501 | or outlook? |
| 17:13.27 | JeffM2501 | good lord man, why? |
| 17:13.35 | supertanker | Nope. Yahoo is Web based. |
| 17:13.39 | wizart | ah |
| 17:13.41 | supertanker | as in, i access it through firefox |
| 17:13.48 | supertanker | ALL HAIL MIGHTY FIREFOX! |
| 17:13.53 | wizart | you can try to use an ad blocker |
| 17:13.53 | ChipX86 | firefox is alright. |
| 17:13.55 | supertanker | sorry I just had to throw that in |
| 17:13.56 | ChipX86 | but *shrug* |
| 17:14.01 | ChipX86 | people get too excited over software |
| 17:14.12 | wizart | I disagree |
| 17:14.16 | supertanker | DOWN WITH IE! DOWN WITH OUTLOOK EXPRESS! |
| 17:14.46 | ChipX86 | making software is fine, the political aspects are all fine I guess, but really, it's like saying, "I live in a better building than YOU!" or "My candy bar is BETTER!" |
| 17:14.50 | supertanker | how do you make it say that, what do I type in? |
| 17:14.58 | wizart | It's fine to get excited over software if you worked hard for a couple of days and the program decides to eat your files. |
| 17:15.06 | ChipX86 | wizart: yes :) |
| 17:15.33 | supertanker | orange: how do you make it show your name then some message in purple? |
| 17:15.33 | ChipX86 | as a developer, I have a love/hate relationship with software, but developers getting excited over software is a completely different thing about users getting excited over it |
| 17:15.35 | JeffM2501 | why would you use the web for mail? |
| 17:15.41 | orange | supertanker: I don't use colors |
| 17:15.43 | ChipX86 | s/about/than/ |
| 17:15.47 | supertanker | What? |
| 17:15.49 | wizart | very ChipX86 ^^ |
| 17:15.52 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: it's handy to access from anywhere |
| 17:16.11 | JeffM2501 | then why use one with adds |
| 17:16.19 | JeffM2501 | I can hit our mailserver from anywhere |
| 17:16.19 | wizart | yea. in the old days of the internet is wass possible to access email from anywhere |
| 17:16.31 | JeffM2501 | via http, pop, or imap |
| 17:16.42 | supertanker | no seriously how do you make it show your name then whatever you type after it, on MIRC it shows it as purple |
| 17:16.44 | JeffM2501 | no ads on it at all |
| 17:16.52 | wizart | then came gmx, aol and co and spam and sudddenly everyone installed overrestrictive firewalls |
| 17:16.53 | JeffM2501 | MIRC blows |
| 17:17.06 | orange | 1I don't know mirc, sorry |
| 17:17.10 | purple_cow | stop saying purple, dammit |
| 17:17.16 | JeffM2501 | purple |
| 17:17.17 | wizart | and I can't log in to my pc from work anymore. |
| 17:17.18 | JeffM2501 | purple |
| 17:17.19 | JeffM2501 | purple |
| 17:17.26 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 17:17.27 | orchid | supertanker: as long as your the only one seeing the color its ok |
| 17:17.28 | supertanker | purplepurplepurplepurplepurplepurplepurplepurplepurplepurplepurplepurplepurple |
| 17:17.31 | supertanker | purple |
| 17:17.39 | JeffM2501 | supertanker, now you are being stupid |
| 17:17.50 | ChipX86 | (see what I did there?) |
| 17:18.03 | supertanker | gee, I never do that do I? :) |
| 17:18.20 | wizart | So Jeff, any idea why taumler patie gets this message when he tries to register? I guess the nick was registered by me a year ago or so. |
| 17:18.31 | JeffM2501 | what message? |
| 17:18.33 | wizart | And I guess I told him to remember the password |
| 17:18.42 | wizart | What does this mean on the bzflag forum: Sorry, but this username has been disallowed ? |
| 17:19.05 | JeffM2501 | the username is ether baned, in the disalow list, or has a string that is disallowed |
| 17:19.05 | wizart | But he's 11 and passwords are a problem. |
| 17:19.10 | JeffM2501 | what is the name? |
| 17:19.10 | supertanker | it means that the username is dissallowed. |
| 17:19.22 | JeffM2501 | supertanker, are you a bzbb admin? |
| 17:19.23 | supertanker | Most likely it is offensive or banned in some way |
| 17:19.23 | wizart | taumler patie |
| 17:19.28 | wizart | that's the name |
| 17:19.29 | supertanker | Or uses really odd charectors |
| 17:19.32 | wizart | the string seams fine |
| 17:19.37 | JeffM2501 | supertanker, ARE YOU A BZBB ADMIN? |
| 17:19.39 | supertanker | No but I am a PHPbb admin. |
| 17:19.41 | wizart | banned... well he is 11 |
| 17:19.43 | supertanker | BZBB is PHPBB |
| 17:19.47 | JeffM2501 | supertanker, ARE YOU A BZBB ADMIN? |
| 17:19.53 | wizart | But I guess he doesn''t know enough english to get banned |
| 17:19.53 | supertanker | No |
| 17:19.56 | supertanker | I said no already |
| 17:19.56 | JeffM2501 | then shuddap |
| 17:19.57 | wizart | even if he tried |
| 17:19.57 | ToughShooter | At least it is not in the multilingual swearlist that is in CVS |
| 17:20.01 | supertanker | BUT BZBB IS PHPBB |
| 17:20.11 | wizart | So I guess it's disallow list. |
| 17:20.26 | JeffM2501 | supertanker, yes it is, but you don't know what we have set, so all you do is confuse people. please let the proper admins thandle it |
| 17:20.26 | wizart | The name doesn't show up in the members list either. |
| 17:20.31 | JeffM2501 | wizart, let me check for you |
| 17:20.38 | wizart | that would be great. |
| 17:20.39 | JeffM2501 | now that I am not so rudely intrupted |
| 17:20.53 | orange | hope he checked the right age box |
| 17:21.36 | JeffM2501 | now I have to wade thru the crap to find the name |
| 17:22.08 | JeffM2501 | ok it will work now |
| 17:22.13 | JeffM2501 | you hit the *pat* filter |
| 17:22.15 | JeffM2501 | I removed it |
| 17:22.25 | orange | hehe |
| 17:22.28 | orange | are spaces allowed anymore? |
| 17:22.33 | ToughShooter | Who's pat? |
| 17:22.33 | supertanker | the what filter? |
| 17:22.33 | JeffM2501 | they should be |
| 17:22.43 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, before your time |
| 17:23.19 | JeffM2501 | supertanker, there was a filter for disallowed name of *pat* |
| 17:23.53 | supertanker | With wildcards? |
| 17:24.09 | JeffM2501 | that would be why it was a filter |
| 17:24.12 | supertanker | as in, the word pat with zero or more charectors before and zero or more charectors after? |
| 17:24.37 | JeffM2501 | that would be the definition of a wildcard |
| 17:24.47 | supertanker | of the * wildcard. |
| 17:24.58 | JeffM2501 | umm yeah |
| 17:25.06 | supertanker | ive been reading about Regular Expressions, those are like super-really-fancy wildcards |
| 17:25.12 | JeffM2501 | umm yeah |
| 17:25.29 | supertanker | do you have a button you press that just makes it say umm yeah? |
| 17:25.47 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 17:26.00 | supertanker | yes there is a Perl Compatible Regular Expressions guide somewhere, but I have PHP 5, Unleased, which also explains about POSIX and other regular expressions |
| 17:26.01 | JeffM2501 | remember the talk we had the other day? |
| 17:26.09 | supertanker | Yes |
| 17:26.17 | JeffM2501 | think hard about that talk, right now |
| 17:26.18 | JeffM2501 | ok? |
| 17:26.26 | supertanker | Every "talk we had the other day". Ok |
| 17:26.40 | JeffM2501 | I am not joking |
| 17:26.57 | supertanker | Yes I remeber that too, and yes I know you are not joking. |
| 17:28.01 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 17:28.26 | supertanker | seriously how do you make the irc do things like |
| 17:28.27 | supertanker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.34 | JeffM2501 | you read the help on IRC |
| 17:28.40 | JeffM2501 | it is not our job to help you in all things |
| 17:28.49 | supertanker | oh yeag I forgot this thing has a help button |
| 17:29.09 | JeffM2501 | use your brain every once in a while ok? |
| 17:29.15 | supertanker | tada |
| 17:29.49 | supertanker | and for impropper grammar |
| 17:29.53 | JeffM2501 | we know, you don't have to tell us |
| 17:30.00 | JeffM2501 | I don't think you remember our talk |
| 17:30.12 | supertanker | no, I do, and I can get up the logs too |
| 17:31.08 | JeffM2501 | well then, if you do remember them, then that means you are just blatanly disregarding it |
| 17:31.15 | supertanker | Okay nevermind about the logs I dont have it enabled |
| 17:31.45 | supertanker | now I do |
| 17:32.02 | JeffM2501 | good for you, we don't need to know that level of detail in your life. |
| 17:36.31 | *** join/#bzflag justaquickquesti (n=rkr@socrates.olib.org) |
| 17:37.07 | justaquickquesti | Quick question: Is there any reason that OS kernel version would affect global login? |
| 17:37.13 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 17:37.22 | JeffM2501 | what error do you get? |
| 17:37.24 | justaquickquesti | I was over on the viper server and could not globally login earlier. |
| 17:37.34 | justaquickquesti | I got booted for trying to login without a recognized global login. |
| 17:37.36 | JeffM2501 | did you get an error? |
| 17:37.41 | JeffM2501 | like "invalid token" ? |
| 17:37.42 | justaquickquesti | Switching back to earlier OS kernel let me in. |
| 17:37.49 | *** join/#bzflag DrNick (n=80bbf0b6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 17:37.55 | justaquickquesti | I don't recall seeing such, but the messages are spammy enough that I can't be sure. |
| 17:38.09 | justaquickquesti | I reverted to a slightly older kernel and global login worked again. |
| 17:38.11 | DrNick | So... how about a n00by question about bzflag on Windows? |
| 17:38.20 | JeffM2501 | well it's just a web hit, so if in one version you have difrent firewall rules, or something it could screw you up |
| 17:38.28 | JeffM2501 | or if you are behind a proxy |
| 17:38.36 | justaquickquesti | I tried 3 or 4 times (booted every time). |
| 17:38.37 | JeffM2501 | DrNick, what is your question? |
| 17:38.42 | justaquickquesti | Same "firewall" (ipf). |
| 17:39.05 | DrNick | I downloaded the latest version of bzflag (2.0.2) and installed it on Windows XP. |
| 17:39.23 | DrNick | I run it and start a server but when I try to connect, the game window just closes with no errors or prompts. |
| 17:39.27 | JeffM2501 | justaquickquesti, try changing your list server URL in your config to have :81 after the org part, and take out the # on the line |
| 17:39.43 | DrNick | The bzfs.exe process stays running in memory though, also with no errors that I can see. |
| 17:39.44 | JeffM2501 | DrNick, can you connect to other servers? |
| 17:40.03 | DrNick | Not so far. Every time I hit "connect" the window just closes |
| 17:40.11 | JeffM2501 | then it's probably a GL problem |
| 17:40.13 | DrNick | It's happened on my machine as well as one other |
| 17:40.16 | JeffM2501 | what video card do you have? |
| 17:40.37 | DrNick | A Radeon 7000 (unfortunately) |
| 17:40.47 | DrNick | Using Microsoft driver actually now that I think about it. |
| 17:40.47 | JeffM2501 | and what drivers are you running? |
| 17:40.53 | JeffM2501 | that would be bad |
| 17:40.59 | JeffM2501 | get the drivers from ATI |
| 17:41.06 | JeffM2501 | the MS drivers don't work well |
| 17:41.08 | DrNick | I suppose I'll go grab the ATI drivers and give that a shot then. |
| 17:41.09 | justaquickquesti | Jeff: Okay, thanks. I'll see if that helps. |
| 17:41.11 | DrNick | Appreciate the help :) |
| 17:41.15 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 17:41.35 | justaquickquesti | Just to be 100% sure, line should now be: |
| 17:41.36 | justaquickquesti | set list http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 17:41.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:41.46 | justaquickquesti | Okay. |
| 17:41.52 | *** join/#bzflag zettaiG (n=zettai@cable200-116-9-83.epm.net.co) |
| 17:41.56 | justaquickquesti | I'll do a quick reboot and try. Thanks again. |
| 17:41.59 | JeffM2501 | that usualy gets past most transperant proxys some ISPs use |
| 17:42.15 | justaquickquesti | No proxy here. But we'll see what happens. |
| 17:42.22 | JeffM2501 | the proxy may be upstream from you |
| 17:42.47 | justaquickquesti | Unlikely. I have static IP and as far as I know mY ISP doesn't do silly stuff like that to me. But I'll try it. |
| 17:43.12 | JeffM2501 | the other problem could be that the libcurl you use, dosn't like that kernel |
| 17:43.13 | justaquickquesti | I emphasize that it works fine with the slightly older OS kernel, which my provider has no knowledge of. But I'll try it and see what happens. |
| 17:43.16 | JeffM2501 | and we use libcurl to do the logins |
| 17:43.23 | justaquickquesti | Ah...that is remotely possible. |
| 17:43.43 | justaquickquesti | I'll try the config.cfg file change first, though. |
| 17:46.29 | *** join/#bzflag supertanker (i=supertan@o1-dialup-69-85-135-69.rev.o1.com) |
| 17:48.18 | *** join/#bzflag justaquickquesti (n=rkr@socrates.olib.org) |
| 17:48.22 | justaquickquesti | Hm...interesting. |
| 17:48.48 | justaquickquesti | Back with kernel from yesterday's sources, and global logins work regardless of config.cfg adjustments for list server. |
| 17:49.25 | justaquickquesti | Once in a while I've been blocked on first login and need to re-do it (or there's a delay---perhaps in the network), such that I need to re-connect. |
| 17:50.13 | justaquickquesti | Never had it happen more than once, and got booted 3 times earlier, though, so that's weird. Oh well. |
| 17:50.29 | justaquickquesti | I'll chalk it up to weirdness unless it happens again. Thanks. |
| 17:53.02 | supertanker | That....was weird |
| 17:53.47 | *** join/#bzflag DrNick (n=80bbf0b6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 17:53.57 | supertanker | Hi |
| 17:54.02 | DrNick | Well, back again. |
| 17:54.09 | supertanker | Me or you? |
| 17:54.19 | DrNick | Me :) |
| 17:54.25 | supertanker | me too. |
| 17:54.28 | supertanker | :) |
| 17:54.44 | DrNick | I installed the ATI drivers for the Radeon 7000 and rebooted. The menu looks a lot better with the real OpenGL drivers, but the game still crashes when I try to join a server. |
| 17:54.54 | supertanker | I just finished getting slaughted on bzflag by this idiot who magicaly spawned with L right next to me |
| 17:54.59 | supertanker | About the video, thats odd. |
| 17:55.05 | DrNick | haha |
| 17:55.18 | supertanker | what? |
| 17:55.21 | JeffM2501 | DrNick does it do any error messages? |
| 17:55.35 | DrNick | Not that I can see. The window just closes with no warning. |
| 17:56.39 | supertanker | I had a simular problem, but instead of closing it would try to close, then lock up. Not pretty. |
| 17:56.40 | DrNick | Would it be worth trying an older version of the game? |
| 17:57.34 | JeffM2501 | well you can try a newer one actualy |
| 17:57.52 | JeffM2501 | I woudl start by trying 2.0.3.b17 |
| 17:58.01 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.2 is prety old |
| 17:58.08 | JeffM2501 | and we've fixed a number of bugs in the current beta |
| 17:58.15 | ruskie | :) |
| 17:58.28 | ruskie | not to mention the current version has some nice effects and usefull features :) |
| 17:58.32 | JeffM2501 | after that, we coudl start looking at stuff like maybe you have a bad config |
| 17:58.37 | JeffM2501 | or permsisons |
| 17:58.52 | JeffM2501 | DrNick, I would do the folowing |
| 17:58.56 | DrNick | Alright. I'm running as admin so I doubt it's a permissions problem. |
| 17:58.58 | JeffM2501 | 1) open your "my documents" folder |
| 17:59.07 | JeffM2501 | and throw away your "my bzflag files" dir |
| 17:59.17 | JeffM2501 | then go grab 2.0.3b17 from the forums |
| 17:59.21 | JeffM2501 | and try that |
| 17:59.37 | DrNick | Hmm, no folder in there named that |
| 17:59.55 | JeffM2501 | ummm |
| 17:59.58 | JeffM2501 | that is not good |
| 18:00.25 | JeffM2501 | that could be why you are crashing |
| 18:00.41 | JeffM2501 | your drive isn't full? or your profile isn't on a network volume or anything is it? |
| 18:01.24 | DrNick | Drive isn't full, but My Documents is actually redirected to a share on a server |
| 18:01.30 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:01.35 | JeffM2501 | do you have perms to make files there |
| 18:01.38 | DrNick | Yup |
| 18:01.42 | JeffM2501 | that is probably why it's crashing |
| 18:01.50 | JeffM2501 | we may not like the redir |
| 18:01.56 | DrNick | Is there any way to tell it to make the folder someplace else? |
| 18:02.03 | JeffM2501 | let me check |
| 18:02.10 | JeffM2501 | it's been a while since I did that code |
| 18:02.34 | JeffM2501 | how did you redir the my docs? |
| 18:02.40 | JeffM2501 | just put a shortcut in your profile? |
| 18:03.05 | JeffM2501 | or like domain stuff? |
| 18:03.09 | DrNick | Group policy |
| 18:03.18 | DrNick | The system is on a domain |
| 18:04.44 | JeffM2501 | dosn't look like I ever did a way to overide it |
| 18:05.12 | orange | can you put a link on a share back to a local folder? |
| 18:05.48 | JeffM2501 | I really should make a command line option |
| 18:05.53 | JeffM2501 | that lets a user pass it in |
| 18:06.18 | DrNick | That would be nice I suppose. Don't suppose you could have that out by this afternoon? |
| 18:06.20 | DrNick | :) |
| 18:07.20 | DrNick | Oh, and I tried the beta just now and it has the same problem. |
| 18:07.25 | JeffM2501 | it will |
| 18:07.30 | JeffM2501 | the problem is your my docs |
| 18:11.19 | supertanker | That is interesting |
| 18:14.06 | JeffM2501 | aww he left |
| 18:14.10 | JeffM2501 | and I just finished it too |
| 18:15.21 | supertanker | You must be a fast typer |
| 18:15.29 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 18:15.33 | supertanker | Nevermind. |
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| 18:15.43 | JeffM2501 | it was a minimal change |
| 18:15.56 | supertanker | wtf is goingon with sourceforge today? The page stops loading halfway throug! |
| 18:16.05 | JeffM2501 | it's called "trafic" |
| 18:16.30 | supertanker | stupid lousy peice of (&*()#$&#!$ it did it yeasterday to, its the adplug download page (adplug.sourceforge.net) |
| 18:16.37 | supertanker | dont ask why I like adlib, I just do |
| 18:16.46 | JeffM2501 | whatever |
| 18:16.58 | JeffM2501 | souldn't you be in school? |
| 18:18.22 | supertanker | I'm homeschoolled. Lucky me. Except i forgot to do my school today. Oh well, I have until sauterday |
| 18:18.26 | supertanker | sauterday 7pm |
| 18:18.50 | supertanker | Thats the joy of homschooling: being able to get up at 10, take as long as you want... as long as you get it done |
| 18:19.03 | bryjen | ~spell sauterday |
| 18:19.18 | supertanker | BTW I found a new bzflag server... |
| 18:19.21 | CIA-13 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 4 dirs): add -configdir to the client to let users specify a difrent base dir to use for config/temp/cache/ etc... |
| 18:19.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah I see it REALY paying off for you |
| 18:19.43 | supertanker | Its this big field, with circles of pyramids, with a whole bunch of little circles inside a big one |
| 18:19.53 | bryjen | JeffM2501: there's an item in one of the trackers on SF about My Doc and UNC paths |
| 18:20.01 | supertanker | Shut up. I just finished Algebra 1 last year, that helped quite a bit. |
| 18:20.03 | JeffM2501 | just because noone said aything about it in chat, dosn't mean you have to spam all channels with it supertanker |
| 18:20.24 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, I'm going to be not using the mydocs path in 2.1 |
| 18:20.24 | supertanker | This year I am on the geometry, that will be usefull for when I am designing levels for my games on paper. |
| 18:20.47 | supertanker | Sorry, I meant to post it here but forgot which channel |
| 18:20.50 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it weill |
| 18:20.57 | supertanker | Will |
| 18:21.05 | supertanker | or Well |
| 18:21.14 | supertanker | There is no definite way to tell. |
| 18:22.09 | supertanker | I can't believe there are more than 3 people on #bzchat |
| 18:22.24 | JeffM2501 | so what class teaches you social interaction? |
| 18:22.32 | orange | I can't believe 90% of the things said in this channel today have been from you |
| 18:23.18 | supertanker | None, me and my mother live up in the foothills, near Pollock Pines...my idiot father lives near Placerville...being stuck in a diviorce does have its advantages. Such as 24/7 computer access. |
| 18:23.35 | supertanker | Yes I actualy do interact with other people, at the community pool, with my friends, ect |
| 18:23.41 | JeffM2501 | supertanker, my parents are maried and I have 24/7 computer access |
| 18:24.15 | supertanker | Yeah but mom is on Ebay most of the time so its kinda hard to get online for more than a 15 minuet download most days.... |
| 18:24.34 | JeffM2501 | that is because you are a child |
| 18:24.36 | supertanker | I can't beleive I'm actualy using IE instead of firefox...*sniff* |
| 18:24.42 | JeffM2501 | you'll live |
| 18:24.51 | JeffM2501 | I don't think you remember our talk at all |
| 18:25.25 | supertanker | No, I do. |
| 18:25.39 | JeffM2501 | they why do you insist on continuing to fill this channel with babble? |
| 18:25.48 | supertanker | I dunno. |
| 18:26.05 | JeffM2501 | that is not a valid answer |
| 18:26.06 | supertanker | I think its "persist" not insist |
| 18:26.18 | supertanker | I don't know is a perfectly legitiment answer. |
| 18:26.22 | supertanker | I think. |
| 18:26.23 | JeffM2501 | no you insist on it, I have asked you to stop |
| 18:26.25 | supertanker | :) |
| 18:26.40 | supertanker | Alright fine. Shutting up. |
| 18:28.44 | JeffM2501 | rittlin shortage |
| 18:28.55 | supertanker | If there *was* a table I would be doing that. |
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| 18:29.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah kiddo, that's not a good thing |
| 18:29.30 | JeffM2501 | go outside |
| 18:29.33 | JeffM2501 | talk to real people |
| 18:30.09 | supertanker | YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! My stayhosted acount just got activated! YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! |
| 18:30.42 | Grumbler | wow the google earth pictures of katrina are pretty amazing |
| 18:31.50 | Aribeth | url? |
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| 18:31.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b %supertanker!*@*] by JeffM2501 |
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| 18:32.48 | JeffM2501 | no clue if that worked or not |
| 18:32.51 | JeffM2501 | but we'll see |
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| 18:44.31 | _Captan_Kirk_ | hi |
| 18:44.38 | *** join/#bzflag KTL (n=KTL@kotnet-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be) |
| 18:46.43 | KTL | my lagstats are <normal number (or 0)> + - huge negative number |
| 18:47.29 | KTL | the result of that lag is that i can not kill, other people still can kill me, and i hear people saying "you are all over the place" |
| 18:47.29 | _Captan_Kirk_ | Thats odd |
| 18:48.07 | KTL | i suspect the admins of my network, they allways do things i dislike :) |
| 18:48.35 | meacan | i think there is a known problem with debians bzflag package |
| 18:48.37 | JeffM2501 | they probably blocked UDP |
| 18:48.47 | JeffM2501 | and yes, the debian package is busted |
| 18:48.52 | KTL | udp from client to server |
| 18:48.52 | JeffM2501 | build from CVS source |
| 18:48.57 | _Captan_Kirk_ | Out of curisoty, what is UDP? |
| 18:49.06 | KTL | datagram protocol |
| 18:49.07 | JeffM2501 | UserDatagramPacket |
| 18:49.17 | _Captan_Kirk_ | Oh Olay. |
| 18:49.20 | JeffM2501 | KTL, are you on deiban? |
| 18:49.22 | _Captan_Kirk_ | Okay |
| 18:49.25 | KTL | yes on debian |
| 18:49.45 | JeffM2501 | KTL, the package in debina is busted and has that exact problem |
| 18:49.54 | KTL | (UDP is faster, smaller packets, it is connectionless, good for multiplayer games) |
| 18:49.55 | JeffM2501 | get cvs current code and build it yourself |
| 18:50.00 | JeffM2501 | it's a problem with GCC4 |
| 18:50.12 | meacan | and dont forget unreliable, KTL :) |
| 18:50.18 | KTL | mmm my kde is half-gone too because of gcc :) |
| 18:50.47 | _Captan_Kirk_ | So thats why I can play resonably with little (300ms) lag... |
| 18:50.53 | KTL | i had to add the debian.org ftp-repository to have my kde back, half of it |
| 18:50.56 | JeffM2501 | CVS has fixes to the makefiles that will work fine under GCC4 |
| 18:51.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b %_Captan_Kirk_!*@*] by JeffM2501 |
| 18:51.22 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 18:51.25 | JeffM2501 | much better |
| 18:51.41 | KTL | euh what did he do? ? :) |
| 18:51.47 | JeffM2501 | long story |
| 18:51.58 | JeffM2501 | it wasn't a real ban |
| 18:52.00 | JeffM2501 | just a quiet |
| 18:52.23 | JeffM2501 | he's very young and very exciteable |
| 18:52.40 | KTL | one of the reasons i don't use irc a lot is because anyone with ops can kick you :) for a reason like copy pasting a fortune for example |
| 18:52.50 | JeffM2501 | but yes, all you have to do is rebuild, we are working on geting a 2.0.4 out the door so the current package gets fixed. |
| 18:53.00 | KTL | nice nice |
| 18:53.01 | JeffM2501 | in general we warn a lot before a kick |
| 18:53.13 | JeffM2501 | quiet is usualy the first step |
| 18:53.32 | KTL | ah i discovered that the bot here, that is is in a package "blootbot", i tried to set it up, seems to crash a bit :) |
| 18:54.01 | JeffM2501 | blootbot should have been merged into the "infobot" project |
| 18:54.09 | JeffM2501 | as TimRiker runs both of them |
| 18:54.35 | JeffM2501 | I prefer supybot |
| 18:54.47 | KTL | what does it too? |
| 18:54.49 | DTRemenak | what do we have left to do? |
| 18:54.57 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I think you are good to go for this weekend |
| 18:55.08 | JeffM2501 | I say we make a b18 tongight and let it fly |
| 18:55.08 | DTRemenak | really?!? |
| 18:55.10 | DTRemenak | sweet |
| 18:55.19 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 18:55.21 | JeffM2501 | if it's all good over the weekend, we pop on monday |
| 18:55.53 | KTL | We shall recompile and recompile until we are |
| 18:55.53 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.08 | *** part/#bzflag tango_ (n=nome@adsl-ull-115-119.44-151.net24.it) |
| 18:57.30 | KTL | mmm no infobot package, i guess blootbot took it's place then |
| 18:57.39 | JeffM2501 | they merged |
| 18:57.44 | JeffM2501 | I don't recall what the final name was tho |
| 18:57.52 | JeffM2501 | they were branches |
| 18:58.01 | JeffM2501 | I'm not a huge perl fan |
| 18:58.21 | KTL | (me neither, not for this size of project) |
| 18:58.24 | JeffM2501 | I just recall seeing him do SF maintance at the same time I did, and that's what he was doing. |
| 18:58.32 | JeffM2501 | supybot is in python |
| 18:59.10 | KTL | better scalable, still not perfect but just what is needed |
| 18:59.32 | JeffM2501 | the only one i've ever made has been in C++ |
| 19:00.23 | KTL | 7GEN:/home/donf# supybot |
| 19:00.23 | KTL | Dude, don't even try to run this as root. ehehehehehee |
| 19:01.30 | KTL | cool, it has wizard |
| 19:02.16 | JeffM2501 | the support channel for it is prety good too |
| 19:11.49 | KTL | (any more good plugins for supybot?) |
| 19:12.20 | KTL | Markov chains lol |
| 19:13.35 | SC | ~secretplace |
| 19:14.04 | SC | ~bzquiery bzflag.secretplace.us:5355 |
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| 19:14.16 | SC | ~bzquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5355 |
| 19:14.22 | *** part/#bzflag Naka (n=chatzill@dialup-4.248.235.127.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net) |
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| 19:14.29 | SC | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5355 |
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| 19:26.48 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: we doing dll for pdcurses or static? |
| 19:28.16 | JeffM2501 | dll |
| 19:28.19 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 19:28.26 | JeffM2501 | I updated the installer |
| 19:28.35 | DTRemenak | you want a copy of pdcurses 2.6 with a working vc71 project file? |
| 19:28.45 | JeffM2501 | and the "it dosnt' log" thing was resolved |
| 19:28.55 | JeffM2501 | the linux one dosn't log and use curses ether :) |
| 19:29.05 | DTRemenak | yeah, I kinda figured that would be the answer :) |
| 19:29.06 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, do we need it? |
| 19:29.24 | JeffM2501 | just send me a lib kit |
| 19:29.29 | DTRemenak | I dunno, but I put one together anyway |
| 19:29.37 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 19:29.42 | DTRemenak | heh, and vc's warnings found a bug too |
| 19:29.48 | DTRemenak | not encouraging ;) |
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| 19:30.29 | DTRemenak | there was a function that took "unsigned long n, bool sgn", and later on did "if (sgn) n = -n;" |
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| 19:31.16 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 19:31.34 | DTRemenak | it also nailed a couple of unused variables |
| 19:31.41 | JeffM2501 | best warning in our software here was "conversion from double to bool.. posible loss of data" |
| 19:31.45 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 19:31.55 | JeffM2501 | like maxium data loss |
| 19:32.53 | JeffM2501 | time for the f00d |
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| 19:44.48 | Eragon | can some 1 give me the link to the page that tells how to design a map through notepad |
| 19:45.30 | ToughShooter | Eragon: This link should be a good start http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/ |
| 19:45.37 | Eragon | k thnx |
| 19:45.50 | Eragon | r u the 1 that gave it to me last time?? |
| 19:46.32 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: also, did you ever switch everything over to /MD? |
| 19:49.58 | Eragon | me |
| 19:50.01 | Eragon | oh |
| 19:50.02 | Eragon | lol |
| 19:50.06 | Eragon | nvm |
| 19:56.04 | Eragon | zone = flag ("good" <wings>){1..*} |
| 19:56.09 | Eragon | thats what i put |
| 19:56.22 | Eragon | and location 0,0,0 |
| 19:56.30 | Eragon | will that work??? |
| 19:56.38 | bryjen | no |
| 19:57.16 | Eragon | ok whats wrong (plz be critical |
| 19:57.57 | Eragon | u there??? |
| 19:58.06 | Eragon | what did i do wrong |
| 19:58.12 | Eragon | i'll fix it |
| 19:58.29 | bryjen | zone |
| 19:58.30 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.32 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.34 | bryjen | end |
| 19:58.38 | Eragon | k |
| 19:58.43 | bryjen | hmm, will need a size too |
| 19:58.51 | Eragon | zone =??? |
| 19:58.55 | Eragon | or zone |
| 19:59.26 | bryjen | this is for a world file to use with bzfs, correct? |
| 19:59.40 | Eragon | yes |
| 19:59.52 | Eragon | i did most of the map on bzedit |
| 19:59.58 | Eragon | but i want flags |
| 20:00.09 | Eragon | so i'm using note pad |
| 20:00.36 | bryjen | flags in specific areas or just flags everywhere? |
| 20:00.55 | Eragon | 0 0 0 |
| 20:00.58 | Eragon | for now |
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| 20:01.40 | bryjen | only in that one spot? |
| 20:02.03 | Eragon | and around it |
| 20:02.08 | Eragon | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.18 | Eragon | i have a tower there |
| 20:03.08 | Eragon | wow this IRC is slow |
| 20:03.32 | bryjen | the web-irc thing is bad |
| 20:03.46 | Eragon | useful though |
| 20:03.52 | JeffM2501 | real IRC is better |
| 20:04.39 | Eragon | i put zone = 0 0 0 |
| 20:04.45 | Eragon | flag good |
| 20:04.50 | Eragon | end |
| 20:04.59 | bryjen | no, just zone |
| 20:05.03 | Eragon | k |
| 20:05.11 | bryjen | then position 0 0 0 |
| 20:05.22 | bryjen | and probably size 10 10 10 |
| 20:05.34 | bryjen | or however big you want it |
| 20:06.01 | Eragon | is 10 10 10 flag size??? |
| 20:06.13 | bryjen | no, its the size of the zone |
| 20:06.28 | Eragon | what exactly is a zone??/ |
| 20:06.29 | bryjen | like you're making an invisible box the flags will land in |
| 20:06.30 | JeffM2501 | flags don't change size |
| 20:06.41 | JeffM2501 | a zone is an area for something to happen in |
| 20:06.46 | Eragon | oh |
| 20:07.05 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: so you want me to put together a lib pack? |
| 20:07.07 | Eragon | how do i control # of flags??? |
| 20:07.18 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, if you are feeling the verve |
| 20:07.35 | bryjen | when you start bzfs, you tell it what flags you want |
| 20:07.37 | DTRemenak | I am. Then we can just set pdcurses to required and get rid of the extra build target too :) |
| 20:07.42 | Eragon | oh |
| 20:07.50 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 20:08.13 | Eragon | zone position 0 0 0 |
| 20:08.30 | Eragon | size 10 10 10 |
| 20:08.38 | Eragon | flag good |
| 20:08.40 | Eragon | end |
| 20:08.48 | Eragon | is that ok??? |
| 20:08.51 | DTRemenak | 'cause the non-pdcurses on doesn't link (it tries to compile CursesMenu.cxx anyway) |
| 20:08.58 | DTRemenak | s/on/one |
| 20:09.17 | Eragon | is that ok |
| 20:09.21 | bryjen | hmm, that may work. i'd put position on a seperate line after zone |
| 20:09.25 | JeffM2501 | ohh I can fix that if you want DTRemenak |
| 20:09.30 | DTRemenak | naw |
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| 20:09.36 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 20:09.37 | DTRemenak | I'll just put together a lib pack |
| 20:09.45 | Eragon | sry messed up |
| 20:09.48 | JeffM2501 | don't forget to make regular relese be MD not MT |
| 20:09.50 | DTRemenak | seems like it will be a better option in the future anyway |
| 20:09.53 | Eragon | clicked wrong thing |
| 20:10.02 | DTRemenak | ah, it has not been changed yet? |
| 20:10.09 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 20:10.16 | JeffM2501 | spend all of yesterday rebuilding my PC |
| 20:10.18 | JeffM2501 | didn't have time |
| 20:10.22 | Eragon | is what i wrote correct |
| 20:10.32 | Eragon | bryjen |
| 20:12.45 | bryjen | close enough. i'd probably put position on a seperate line, but it may work |
| 20:12.58 | Eragon | k |
| 20:13.22 | Eragon | do i put "wings" in it when i put it on bzfs |
| 20:14.18 | bryjen | bzfs +f wings{X} -world yourfile.bzw |
| 20:14.31 | Eragon | ??? |
| 20:14.32 | bryjen | where X is the number of flags you want |
| 20:14.47 | bryjen | oops |
| 20:14.49 | Eragon | this on notepadf??? |
| 20:14.56 | bryjen | +f WG{X} |
| 20:15.05 | JeffM2501 | it's in the command line for bzfs |
| 20:15.07 | JeffM2501 | when you start it |
| 20:15.12 | Eragon | k |
| 20:15.13 | bryjen | no, this is the command to start bzfs, in a command window |
| 20:15.33 | Eragon | bzfs just has a lot of blanks with questions |
| 20:15.41 | Eragon | the 1 i have |
| 20:15.51 | bryjen | uhm, no. do not open bzfs.exe in notepad.... |
| 20:16.12 | ToughShooter | ROFL |
| 20:16.27 | JeffM2501 | Eragon, have you ever run a server before? |
| 20:16.47 | Eragon | no |
| 20:16.49 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 20:16.52 | Eragon | first time |
| 20:16.54 | JeffM2501 | you need to learn how |
| 20:17.00 | JeffM2501 | learn that before you worry about your map :) |
| 20:17.01 | Eragon | yes |
| 20:17.06 | Eragon | oh |
| 20:17.15 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 20:17.16 | JeffM2501 | read that |
| 20:17.20 | JeffM2501 | all the way thru |
| 20:17.30 | Eragon | yeahj i was just gonna submit my maps to official maps list |
| 20:17.35 | Eragon | k |
| 20:17.56 | JeffM2501 | learn to run a server and test your maps before you submit them :) |
| 20:18.09 | Eragon | k |
| 20:18.28 | Eragon | that just tells me how to make a map not a server |
| 20:19.03 | JeffM2501 | that tells you step by step how to run a server |
| 20:19.10 | Eragon | k |
| 20:19.13 | JeffM2501 | you run servers from the command line |
| 20:19.15 | Eragon | i'll read it |
| 20:19.23 | Eragon | wheres that lo9l |
| 20:19.32 | Eragon | command prompt?? |
| 20:19.34 | JeffM2501 | that's what it tells you about |
| 20:19.35 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 20:19.38 | JeffM2501 | read it |
| 20:19.39 | Eragon | is that command line |
| 20:19.47 | Eragon | k |
| 20:22.50 | Eragon | sry but that talks about how to edit a map |
| 20:23.07 | Eragon | nothing to do /w a server |
| 20:23.20 | JeffM2501 | what is the title of the topic you see? |
| 20:23.28 | JeffM2501 | is it "how to run a public server" ? |
| 20:23.33 | Eragon | bzw |
| 20:23.41 | JeffM2501 | you are not on the URL I posted |
| 20:23.50 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 20:23.55 | Eragon | k |
| 20:24.06 | Eragon | ohhhh |
| 20:24.09 | Eragon | thnx |
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| 20:54.41 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, I do belive your student there is retarded |
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| 21:06.04 | Grumbler | dont hold back there JeffM2501, tell us what your really think |
| 21:06.20 | JeffM2501 | 11, maybe 12, hit with a shovel at the age of 5 |
| 21:14.43 | RPG_ | for masterbot, who is willing to contribute by writing the framework (or the entire thing), for a plugin that recieves and sends TCP connections |
| 21:15.05 | RPG_ | preferably expertise in socket programming |
| 21:15.08 | wegstar | for what? |
| 21:15.13 | RPG_ | masterbot.bzflag.org |
| 21:15.16 | wegstar | ah |
| 21:15.30 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, why reinvent the wheel? |
| 21:15.36 | RPG_ | eh? |
| 21:15.37 | JeffM2501 | why not use an existing lib? |
| 21:15.54 | RPG_ | i know diddly when it comes to sockets |
| 21:16.01 | RPG_ | so do the rest of the masterbot devs |
| 21:16.23 | RPG_ | did you have a lib in mind? |
| 21:16.25 | JeffM2501 | another reason to use an existing lib |
| 21:16.39 | JeffM2501 | you want just a net connection? or a full web server? |
| 21:16.44 | RPG_ | preferably one that worke on win and lin |
| 21:16.47 | RPG_ | just a net connection |
| 21:16.49 | wegstar | ah.. |
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| 21:16.55 | JeffM2501 | there are many |
| 21:16.55 | RPG_ | a simple protocol |
| 21:17.07 | JeffM2501 | if you do the conenction, YOU define the protocoll |
| 21:17.11 | RPG_ | client -> "SEND LOGS" -> server |
| 21:17.23 | TD-Linux | actually, more like: |
| 21:17.26 | JeffM2501 | sdlnet |
| 21:17.29 | RPG_ | server -> "RPG: HI|TD-LINUX:HI" -> client |
| 21:17.50 | TD-Linux | well, not like that RPG_ |
| 21:17.52 | TD-Linux | I suggest... |
| 21:17.54 | JeffM2501 | I still think a webserver is better |
| 21:18.00 | wegstar | hmm |
| 21:18.02 | JeffM2501 | then you can just send the data in a URL |
| 21:18.07 | TD-Linux | probably, but a plugin is easier to add |
| 21:18.10 | RPG_ | but why a webserver? |
| 21:18.16 | RPG_ | it's more than we need |
| 21:18.22 | RPG_ | we just need a basic protocol |
| 21:18.26 | TD-Linux | A webserver would be good |
| 21:18.32 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, never understimate what people will do with your stuff |
| 21:18.32 | TD-Linux | but it isn't very easy to set up |
| 21:18.39 | JeffM2501 | and you guys know web the best |
| 21:19.15 | TD-Linux | I only know web :P |
| 21:19.24 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 21:19.43 | RPG_ | but a webservber would be a little overkill, wounld't it? |
| 21:19.48 | TD-Linux | A plugin would be nice, but we need to recurit some person to do it |
| 21:19.52 | wegstar | no.. not really... |
| 21:20.01 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, not really |
| 21:20.16 | RPG_ | this plugin needs to: ban people, kick people, kill people (all the admin stuff), and also send logs to the masterbot PHp script |
| 21:20.17 | TD-Linux | a plugin woud be cooler :) |
| 21:20.20 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, I don't like your existing masterbot thing beause you centeralise all management to one host |
| 21:20.31 | JeffM2501 | why not let bzfs just be admined via it's own internal webserver? |
| 21:20.38 | TD-Linux | hmmm |
| 21:20.41 | JeffM2501 | and that webserver be in the plugin |
| 21:20.44 | RPG_ | this is for "adminning via HTTP" |
| 21:20.51 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:20.51 | TD-Linux | yes... |
| 21:20.53 | JeffM2501 | web == HTTP |
| 21:20.55 | RPG_ | yes |
| 21:20.57 | RPG_ | i got it now |
| 21:21.10 | JeffM2501 | if the game server was it's own HTTP server, then it could be all self contained |
| 21:21.24 | JeffM2501 | as you ahve it now, you need a seperate web server, that talks to the game server |
| 21:21.31 | JeffM2501 | why not just go direct |
| 21:21.50 | TD-Linux | having one fancy web interface server would be nice so from one location you could admin many servers, but having the actual stuff go on at the bzfs end would be a lot better |
| 21:21.56 | RPG_ | hmmm |
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| 21:22.24 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, that is a HUGE security risk |
| 21:22.24 | TD-Linux | hmmm |
| 21:22.32 | WaaronBurglett | hello all\ |
| 21:22.35 | JeffM2501 | and it's not really centeral |
| 21:22.43 | JeffM2501 | since that server has to go to all the other servers ANYWAY |
| 21:22.50 | JeffM2501 | all you are doing is making it slower |
| 21:22.58 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:23.03 | WaaronBurglett | i can log on to gnurdex.homelinux.net |
| 21:23.12 | JeffM2501 | and again, you could still do your centeral thing, but have the protcoll to bzfs just be http |
| 21:23.14 | WaaronBurglett | it has connection errors |
| 21:23.15 | RPG_ | i don't think the PHP devs would be to happy wiht slashing hte PHP project, though |
| 21:23.28 | TD-Linux | I would be happy |
| 21:23.35 | TD-Linux | as long as it's better, me == happy |
| 21:23.36 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: you got a copy of your build of bzadmin with curses hanging around? |
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| 21:23.45 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, what? |
| 21:23.47 | DTRemenak | I'm curious if yours crashes like mine does :) |
| 21:23.58 | RPG_ | we'd slash the PHP part of masterbot if we made it just into a plugin-webserver |
| 21:24.02 | wegstar | ah.. |
| 21:24.04 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, probably in myth.gibbscam.com/temp/ |
| 21:24.06 | RPG_ | all the people working on masterbot only know PHP |
| 21:24.08 | RPG_ | well, most of them |
| 21:24.13 | DTRemenak | thx |
| 21:24.15 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, there are php parser projects |
| 21:24.26 | JeffM2501 | hell you could imbed apache with php into the plugin |
| 21:24.30 | JeffM2501 | there is no 'slashing" |
| 21:24.34 | JeffM2501 | link it as a lib |
| 21:25.12 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, twisted is your best option |
| 21:25.17 | JeffM2501 | and python woudl be a good lang for it |
| 21:25.25 | wegstar | yay! python :) |
| 21:25.31 | RPG_ | none of us know python :) |
| 21:25.31 | TD-Linux | ugh |
| 21:25.33 | TD-Linux | I don't know python |
| 21:25.39 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, do you know C? |
| 21:25.39 | wegstar | python's cool |
| 21:25.40 | RPG_ | neither do i |
| 21:25.47 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 21:25.52 | RPG_ | you do? |
| 21:25.56 | RPG_ | why didn't you say so? |
| 21:26.00 | TD-Linux | I know C |
| 21:26.04 | TD-Linux | C++ a little |
| 21:26.10 | JeffM2501 | python is like inbetween C and php |
| 21:26.13 | TD-Linux | I can do classes |
| 21:26.36 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: yup, yours does it too :) |
| 21:26.48 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, sw33t |
| 21:27.03 | DTRemenak | dawgonnit, build problems are easier to fix than code problems :( |
| 21:27.58 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, RPG_, search the web for imbeded web servers |
| 21:28.09 | JeffM2501 | or just use sdl.net |
| 21:28.22 | RPG_ | sdl.net doesn't sound linux-friendly |
| 21:28.28 | RPG_ | .NET |
| 21:28.29 | JeffM2501 | the net means network |
| 21:28.32 | JeffM2501 | not MS .net |
| 21:28.33 | RPG_ | oh |
| 21:28.34 | RPG_ | ok |
| 21:28.36 | JeffM2501 | it is totaly cross plat |
| 21:29.29 | RPG_ | JeffM: can you add mute and unmute functions to the API? |
| 21:29.38 | RPG_ | oh i forght.... |
| 21:29.41 | RPG_ | it's a perm |
| 21:29.43 | RPG_ | we had this convo before |
| 21:29.47 | RPG_ | scratch that |
| 21:29.48 | RPG_ | i said nothing |
| 21:30.06 | TD-Linux | is sdl.net it high level? high level enough that even I could use it? I have some other project ideas... |
| 21:37.03 | wegstar | it's bzflag package looks outdated... |
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| 21:41.21 | bryjen | SDL_net |
| 21:42.52 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: if you want to watch bzadmin die, hit F2 |
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| 21:43.41 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, umm ok |
| 21:43.58 | TD-Linux | this isn't in anonymous CVS, is it? |
| 21:44.30 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: that was just fyi, if you wanted to look at it. |
| 21:44.38 | RPG_ | i guess if we make this plugin - webserver,BZAdmin wil have no use |
| 21:44.40 | DTRemenak | I'm gonna do something else |
| 21:45.14 | wegstar | ;) |
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| 21:59.54 | Eragon | jeff |
| 21:59.58 | Eragon | u there??? |
| 22:00.16 | Eragon | is jeff here??? |
| 22:00.30 | Eragon | dude plz talk to me man |
| 22:00.38 | Eragon | i need to know what to do |
| 22:00.45 | wegstar | be patient... |
| 22:01.20 | Eragon | no he won't answer his IM either |
| 22:01.34 | Eragon | and i REALLY need help with this |
| 22:01.40 | wegstar | with what? |
| 22:02.08 | Eragon | server making |
| 22:02.27 | Eragon | he had me kinda far along and now won't talk |
| 22:02.39 | wegstar | and... |
| 22:02.43 | Eragon | so no 1 knows where i am and can't help me |
| 22:02.55 | wegstar | are you trying to get a server set up? |
| 22:02.59 | Eragon | yes |
| 22:03.15 | Eragon | he had me kinda far along and now won't talk |
| 22:03.20 | wegstar | far along? |
| 22:03.26 | wegstar | is it running yet? |
| 22:03.30 | Eragon | no |
| 22:03.40 | Eragon | halfway there or less |
| 22:03.43 | wegstar | are you working with the configuration file? |
| 22:03.51 | Eragon | but no 1 else can helpo me now |
| 22:03.57 | Eragon | no |
| 22:03.57 | wegstar | how so? |
| 22:04.25 | Eragon | no 1 would know where wo pick up again |
| 22:04.51 | JeffM2501 | dude ease up |
| 22:04.54 | JeffM2501 | it was snaple time |
| 22:04.58 | Eragon | oh |
| 22:05.01 | Eragon | crap |
| 22:05.13 | Eragon | now i feel even more of an idiot |
| 22:05.29 | Eragon | sry |
| 22:05.43 | JeffM2501 | it's ok |
| 22:05.44 | JeffM2501 | just chill |
| 22:05.54 | JeffM2501 | if someone dosn't get back to you, just wait |
| 22:06.10 | JeffM2501 | if you have to go, then save and go |
| 22:06.14 | JeffM2501 | there is never any rush |
| 22:15.55 | Eragon | bye |
| 22:16.06 | JeffM2501 | OH MY GOD!!!! |
| 22:16.10 | JeffM2501 | that boy needs help |
| 22:16.30 | JeffM2501 | dude can't even copy a file, or make a new text file |
| 22:18.19 | JeffM2501 | anyone here have XP home? |
| 22:22.22 | TD-Linux | meeeeeeeeeeee |
| 22:22.27 | TD-Linux | have XP pro also |
| 22:22.59 | JeffM2501 | does XP home have a "command prompt" icon in the start menu? |
| 22:26.10 | bryjen | it might be burried somewhere |
| 22:26.47 | wegstar | how about start->run->type 'cmd' |
| 22:26.55 | wegstar | might've been simpler |
| 22:27.14 | TD-Linux | hmmm |
| 22:27.16 | wegstar | for him |
| 22:27.17 | TD-Linux | ummm |
| 22:27.25 | wegstar | and enter |
| 22:27.27 | wegstar | ;) |
| 22:27.30 | TD-Linux | it has a 'Run' thing |
| 22:27.32 | bryjen | as long as they havn't absconded with the Run entry too |
| 22:27.46 | TD-Linux | it also has START>ALL PROGRAMS>ACCESORIES>COMMAND PROMPT |
| 22:27.55 | wegstar | exactly |
| 22:28.15 | TD-Linux | there IS a 'run' thing, on bottom right of menu |
| 22:28.45 | bryjen | ah, the shell is an accesory now. i think that's where the file explorer went too |
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| 22:29.19 | JeffM2501 | he said he had one in the raw start meny |
| 22:29.25 | JeffM2501 | I think he's running ME |
| 22:29.34 | JeffM2501 | but he keeps telling me he's on XP |
| 22:29.40 | JeffM2501 | but stuff like paths with spaces don't work |
| 22:29.45 | wegstar | eek.. |
| 22:29.50 | JeffM2501 | it all adds up to ME |
| 22:29.59 | bryjen | it was start->programs->command prompt (or ms-dos prompt) at earlier points |
| 22:30.22 | JeffM2501 | it's a 13 year old kid |
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| 22:32.01 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux I'm moving your masterbot post to developement |
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| 22:32.17 | JeffM2501 | as it dosn't seem to be an anoucnement, but more of a discussion of some of your problems. |
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| 22:36.44 | TD-Linux | someting just major happened |
| 22:36.53 | TD-Linux | at silvercat, someone killed both teams with Geno! |
| 22:37.07 | JeffM2501 | ohhhhh nooooeeees |
| 22:37.22 | TD-Linux | it IS possible ;) |
| 22:37.27 | TD-Linux | btb did it |
| 22:37.34 | TD-Linux | he shot a geno under two tanks in the air |
| 22:37.39 | TD-Linux | they both fell on the shot at the same time |
| 22:38.03 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 22:38.10 | JeffM2501 | how is that "major"? |
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| 22:38.43 | RPG_ | hello |
| 22:39.03 | RPG_ | JeffM: can you add some BZBB groups; |
| 22:39.08 | RPG_ | Sevoma.admin |
| 22:39.10 | RPG_ | and |
| 22:39.12 | RPG_ | Sevoma.cop |
| 22:39.13 | RPG_ | ? |
| 22:39.35 | jeffm2501 | LOOK IT'S ELVIS! |
| 22:39.43 | TD-Linux | it's extremely unlikely7 |
| 22:39.52 | TD-Linux | especially becuase it was only 1 shot |
| 22:39.53 | jeffm2501 | TD-Linux, not really |
| 22:39.58 | TD-Linux | you only get 1 shot with geno |
| 22:40.05 | TD-Linux | and shots are supposed to stop |
| 22:40.10 | TD-Linux | when they hit a tank |
| 22:40.13 | jeffm2501 | given the way that bzflag tracks shots, it's not suprising |
| 22:40.22 | TD-Linux | it was funny :) |
| 22:44.49 | RPG_ | ~seen DTRemenak |
| 22:44.55 | ibot | dtremenak is currently on #bzflag (1d 3h 27m 42s) #brlcad (1d 3h 27m 42s). Has said a total of 46 messages. Is idling for 1h 15s |
| 22:45.13 | TD-Linux | ~seen TD-Linux |
| 22:45.14 | ibot | td-linux is currently on #bzflag (2h 12m 43s). Has said a total of 44 messages. Is idling for 1s |
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| 23:20.00 | RPG_ | ping DTRemenak |
| 23:20.33 | DTRemenak | pong |
| 23:21.02 | RPG_ | DTR: in the BZBB gropus Sevoma.admin and Sevoma.cop, can you give Sevoma moderator status over them, and in Sevoma.admin, bump me down to a normal user? |
| 23:22.21 | DTRemenak | moderators changed. you can remove yourself from the group if you want. |
| 23:22.34 | RPG_ | thx |
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| 23:28.16 | zoly | g'day |
| 23:28.25 | zoly | RPG_: awake? |
| 23:28.29 | RPG_ | yes |
| 23:28.35 | RPG_ | ~wake RPG_ |
| 23:28.37 | ibot | RPG_: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 23:28.40 | RPG_ | definately yes |
| 23:28.42 | zoly | i would like to introduce you to jvlokt |
| 23:28.46 | RPG_ | new ref? |
| 23:28.58 | zoly | no, team mate. usa, as you, thus compatible times |
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| 23:29.05 | RPG_ | oahhh |
| 23:29.25 | zoly | do you want to join #syh ? |
| 23:29.44 | zoly | irc channel on this net/server |
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