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| 00:00.21 | autocosm2 | !weather 03801 |
| 00:00.24 | TheLastSpartan` | autocosm2: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 86°F (6:55 PM EDT on August 05, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 70°F. Pressure: 29.91 in (1013 hPa). Visibility: 20.0 miles (32.2 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 16 |
| 00:00.38 | autocosm2 | !weather 04294 |
| 00:00.39 | TheLastSpartan` | autocosm2: The current temperature in Wilton, Maine (04294) is 68°F (7:45 PM EDT on August 05, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 68°F. UV: 0 out of 16 |
| 00:01.01 | autocosm2 | hey I'm back on BZFlag |
| 00:01.36 | autocosm2 | Thanks for taking off the master ban list1 |
| 00:01.46 | autocosm2 | :) |
| 00:01.48 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 00:02.12 | autocosm2 | SOMETHing happened and well, u get the point |
| 00:02.22 | JeffM2501 | I don't remember anyone on the list by your name |
| 00:02.57 | *** join/#bzflag autocosm2 (~183ddb61@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:03.02 | autocosm2 | wtf |
| 00:03.08 | autocosm2 | oh well |
| 00:03.17 | JeffM2501 | what name do you usualy play by? |
| 00:03.24 | autocosm2 | I was on it, *call of honor* remember |
| 00:03.30 | JeffM2501 | you were not removed |
| 00:03.46 | autocosm2 | how come I can play? |
| 00:03.59 | autocosm2 | does it use IP address or name? |
| 00:04.05 | JeffM2501 | probably because a website hickuped and a server can't get the list |
| 00:04.06 | JeffM2501 | both |
| 00:04.23 | autocosm2 | the name I understand |
| 00:04.30 | autocosm2 | I'm on my dad's computer |
| 00:04.43 | JeffM2501 | well we'll just have to add that to the list then |
| 00:04.48 | autocosm2 | It feels weird NO! |
| 00:04.56 | autocosm2 | PLease |
| 00:04.57 | JeffM2501 | why do you feel you should be unbaned? |
| 00:04.59 | autocosm2 | Don't |
| 00:05.10 | autocosm2 | Because I'm not that stupid anymore |
| 00:05.27 | autocosm2 | and I'm telling you, so that's responsible isn't ti? |
| 00:05.30 | JeffM2501 | what have you done to redem yourslef in the server owners eyes |
| 00:05.41 | autocosm2 | I have no idea |
| 00:05.47 | autocosm2 | Well, wait |
| 00:05.55 | autocosm2 | I got some back |
| 00:06.00 | autocosm2 | Not all |
| 00:06.11 | JeffM2501 | who let you back in? |
| 00:06.20 | autocosm2 | brb |
| 00:06.31 | autocosm2 | ummm y? |
| 00:06.46 | JeffM2501 | if you want back in you can't run away |
| 00:06.49 | JeffM2501 | you have to explain |
| 00:06.54 | JeffM2501 | you have to talk with us |
| 00:08.18 | autocosm2 | well since I played BZFlag on both computers I should be banned from both, but say my internet died for a couple months, wouldn't something delete it, because I wasn't on for so long? My dad's computer is his work computer so it gets wiped every once in a while |
| 00:08.29 | autocosm2 | should I keep talking? |
| 00:08.38 | JeffM2501 | we didn't ban your computer |
| 00:08.41 | JeffM2501 | we baned YOU |
| 00:08.58 | JeffM2501 | but you are not explaining WHY you shoudl be unbaned? |
| 00:09.07 | JeffM2501 | not even a simple "I'm sorry I was a prick" |
| 00:09.24 | JeffM2501 | you go right to computers and IP's instead of just a simple aplogy |
| 00:09.46 | autocosm2 | Oh so that means that the computer in my living room is banned. And is it possible to make like boxes or pyramids explode? |
| 00:10.06 | JeffM2501 | you don't get it do you? |
| 00:10.25 | JeffM2501 | why can't you just admit you were a jerk? |
| 00:10.33 | autocosm2 | Fine |
| 00:10.45 | JeffM2501 | ohh sorry don't mean to FORCE you into it |
| 00:10.54 | JeffM2501 | I mean I know I'm twisting your arm and stuff to do it |
| 00:10.57 | JeffM2501 | dude that's sad |
| 00:11.42 | autocosm2 | I'm sorry for being a jerk, insulting JeffM2501 horribly, spamming severly on servers, being a jack***, and If I do it again I be 'shunned' for a while |
| 00:12.05 | JeffM2501 | not that I think you mean it |
| 00:13.06 | autocosm2 | why wouldn't I? Being gone for months? Why wouldn't I change? I spent my time since April working on a map that's got soo amny problems |
| 00:14.03 | JeffM2501 | then why would we let you back in? |
| 00:14.31 | autocosm2 | I need somebody to host my map, and if they were to host it I might be banned from my own map.... |
| 00:14.40 | autocosm2 | And i need help |
| 00:15.31 | JeffM2501 | no those are your needs, why should WE let you in |
| 00:15.54 | JeffM2501 | the world does not revolve around you |
| 00:16.27 | autocosm2 | Because I'm sorry, and and I know the world doesn't revolve around me, |
| 00:16.45 | JeffM2501 | you just said your not, because you don't change |
| 00:17.01 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: update with new current info |
| 00:17.38 | JeffM2501 | let us know when you are ready to talk about it in a rational and serious manner |
| 00:17.40 | autocosm2 | who says somebody can't change? and now i'm confused |
| 00:18.13 | JeffM2501 | why would I have to basicly force you to admit you were a jerk? |
| 00:18.27 | autocosm2 | I don't know! |
| 00:18.34 | JeffM2501 | you should, it was all you |
| 00:18.55 | JeffM2501 | I don't see any reason to let you back, does anyone else? |
| 00:19.14 | autocosm2 | I know it was all me. A stupid mistake, I have to admit. |
| 00:19.44 | autocosm2 | I know a lot of people are on here. Will somebody please except me back? |
| 00:19.47 | JeffM2501 | have you convinced server ops to give you an exemption? |
| 00:20.10 | autocosm2 | I haven't been on. Can you give me a minute? |
| 00:20.48 | JeffM2501 | it'll take more then a min |
| 00:21.05 | JeffM2501 | if you are just geting to that point, let us know in a couple of weeks after you've played with them for a while |
| 00:22.01 | JeffM2501 | I'm willing to remove the master ban, but not untill I am sure you realise you were an ass and not just that your "time is up" and I see you make a real effort |
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| 00:23.31 | JeffM2501 | if the only reason you want off is to play on a server running your map, then that is not enough reason for me, as they could throw you an exception. You have to be willing to work with the bzflag coumunity again, and that is what I don't see you doing. |
| 00:23.59 | autocosm2 | Can I ask the players if they want to let me back on? |
| 00:24.07 | JeffM2501 | players don't mater |
| 00:24.09 | JeffM2501 | it's server ops |
| 00:24.18 | autocosm2 | let me think |
| 00:24.19 | JeffM2501 | lets just say you don't have the best rep with them |
| 00:24.30 | JeffM2501 | this is NOT a thing you can just fix right now |
| 00:24.38 | autocosm2 | i know |
| 00:24.48 | JeffM2501 | you will have to prove you can play nice |
| 00:24.56 | autocosm2 | give me a few minutes please |
| 00:25.10 | JeffM2501 | for what? |
| 00:25.11 | A-Delusion | yeah, so I'm trying to get tropican8 thru a windows CvS |
| 00:25.12 | autocosm2 | actually do you want to play a game |
| 00:25.20 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, can he build? |
| 00:25.27 | A-Delusion | any links.... |
| 00:25.40 | A-Delusion | nhe's trying he has run plugins b4 |
| 00:25.42 | JeffM2501 | autocosm2, I don't think you get it, I want you to work with admins and EARN there trust and play weeks of games showing the world that you can be good. |
| 00:26.10 | autocosm2 | was nightmare ever forgiven? |
| 00:26.14 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:26.16 | A-Delusion | weeks, yes weeks, once trust is broken, it takes awhile to get it back |
| 00:26.21 | JeffM2501 | dude tried to take down the list server |
| 00:26.29 | wegstar | why won't bzfs compile with VC++ express ? |
| 00:26.32 | autocosm2 | holy.... |
| 00:26.48 | autocosm2 | fine well, i'll try cya |
| 00:26.55 | JeffM2501 | wegstar, because VC8 ( the one you have ) is more strict |
| 00:26.56 | autocosm2 | i'll be on if u need me |
| 00:26.59 | JeffM2501 | then VC7.1 |
| 00:27.06 | wegstar | strict? |
| 00:27.06 | JeffM2501 | autocosm2, I will never need you |
| 00:27.10 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:27.19 | JeffM2501 | we have to change code or proejct settings to make it support the compiler |
| 00:27.25 | JeffM2501 | and it's still in beta |
| 00:27.31 | JeffM2501 | so we haven't done that work yet |
| 00:27.33 | A-Delusion | nme? |
| 00:27.48 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, no not you :) |
| 00:27.52 | JeffM2501 | I'll never need the brat |
| 00:27.56 | A-Delusion | k |
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| 00:28.30 | JeffM2501 | wegstar, basicly VC8 is not out of the box compatable with 7 |
| 00:28.35 | JeffM2501 | we have to do work to make it work with it |
| 00:28.38 | Aribeth | who tried to take down the list server ??? |
| 00:28.46 | JeffM2501 | I had to do the same thing when we changed from 6 to 7 |
| 00:28.55 | JeffM2501 | wegstar, we'll do that work when 8 is in release |
| 00:28.59 | JeffM2501 | knightmare |
| 00:29.05 | JeffM2501 | and his munckins |
| 00:29.09 | Aribeth | yesterday?? |
| 00:29.12 | wegstar | ok |
| 00:29.13 | JeffM2501 | no no no |
| 00:29.14 | wegstar | O_o |
| 00:29.14 | JeffM2501 | years ago |
| 00:29.18 | Aribeth | ohhhh |
| 00:29.26 | JeffM2501 | wegstar, I have been making the plugins be compatable tho |
| 00:29.29 | JeffM2501 | since they are new code |
| 00:29.34 | JeffM2501 | or I have been trying at least :) |
| 00:29.34 | wegstar | yeah |
| 00:29.55 | JeffM2501 | there are things in 8 that have been depriciated from 7, we'll have to work those out |
| 00:30.03 | A-Delusion | all i need is a helpful link on windows cvs, and im gone... |
| 00:30.16 | JeffM2501 | 8 is geting apps ready for 64bit and real C++ standards and stuff so it's defaults are much more strict |
| 00:30.26 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, what do you need to do? get the code? |
| 00:30.34 | wegstar | oh, I was just making sure that microsoft did not purposely limit the compiler or something ;) |
| 00:30.38 | A-Delusion | ntropic need to learn cvs |
| 00:30.42 | wegstar | because it was free |
| 00:30.47 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, does he have a compiler |
| 00:30.52 | A-Delusion | nyes |
| 00:31.04 | A-Delusion | dont know the correct commands |
| 00:31.05 | JeffM2501 | wegstar, no no, they are actualy making it more C++ compliant, more then GCC in some respects |
| 00:31.19 | wegstar | oh |
| 00:31.23 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, what compiler and what CVS client does he have, windows does not come with a cvs client |
| 00:31.34 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, has he ever built bz before? |
| 00:31.57 | A-Delusion | well, no il have to get back to you, i tried to get him here... |
| 00:32.06 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, does he have AIM? |
| 00:32.09 | JeffM2501 | or msn |
| 00:32.10 | JeffM2501 | or anything? |
| 00:32.30 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, or do you just want me to build you a current bzfs? |
| 00:32.35 | A-Delusion | nno he's strange with that, i had to badger him for an email add\ |
| 00:32.51 | A-Delusion | if you want to that would be wonderful |
| 00:33.02 | A-Delusion | ill go donate right now |
| 00:33.14 | JeffM2501 | gimme a sec and I'll make one for ya |
| 00:33.18 | JeffM2501 | you just need bzfs right? |
| 00:33.27 | A-Delusion | nyou are most definitely the man |
| 00:33.32 | A-Delusion | nyes |
| 00:33.46 | JeffM2501 | your actualy getting newer then CVS then :) |
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| 00:33.59 | A-Delusion | and it must work with the plugin of couse |
| 00:34.12 | JeffM2501 | it should |
| 00:34.17 | JeffM2501 | this is the plugin that rpg made? |
| 00:34.37 | A-Delusion | ill tell tropic to stop...yes |
| 00:34.46 | JeffM2501 | then he's on API 7 |
| 00:34.50 | JeffM2501 | so it should be fine |
| 00:34.53 | A-Delusion | and the build will be windows? |
| 00:35.20 | A-Delusion | i sent you the plugin... to opencombat |
| 00:35.52 | JeffM2501 | I don't need the plugin |
| 00:35.57 | JeffM2501 | yes the build will be windows |
| 00:36.28 | JeffM2501 | it is building now |
| 00:36.37 | JeffM2501 | complete with custom map object support :) |
| 00:37.04 | A-Delusion | i sent to tropic to stop, now i go donate.. |
| 00:37.16 | JeffM2501 | you don't hav to donate unless you want to |
| 00:37.24 | A-Delusion | i want to |
| 00:37.27 | JeffM2501 | it just goes to help nid and tim out on the costs |
| 00:37.33 | JeffM2501 | nid needs it the most sadly :( |
| 00:37.40 | A-Delusion | i was gonna double last years ... |
| 00:37.51 | *** part/#bzflag bz1625 (~54b004da@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:38.38 | A-Delusion | does nid have a problem, medical? kids? |
| 00:38.52 | JeffM2501 | quit his job to start his on biz :) |
| 00:39.04 | JeffM2501 | yet still pays for the listserver and bzbb out of his pocket |
| 00:39.15 | A-Delusion | nand the biz tanked? or just start-up costs |
| 00:39.18 | JeffM2501 | ...must remember to not zip texture dir..... |
| 00:39.23 | JeffM2501 | its just starting up |
| 00:39.31 | JeffM2501 | he says it's going, just slow like some startups can |
| 00:39.37 | JeffM2501 | but he says it's picking up |
| 00:39.54 | A-Delusion | my bro had the same prob with his IT company |
| 00:40.17 | A-Delusion | ntook three years, but now he loves it... and went back to his old job |
| 00:40.34 | A-Delusion | so now he has two incomes |
| 00:41.16 | A-Delusion | he teaches at CMU |
| 00:41.31 | JeffM2501 | http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/bzfs.exe |
| 00:41.38 | JeffM2501 | that is fresh off the linker |
| 00:42.11 | A-Delusion | you 'da man |
| 00:42.33 | A-Delusion | nright now tropics off somewhere, but ill let you know as soon... |
| 00:42.41 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 00:42.45 | A-Delusion | ngot it |
| 00:42.53 | A-Delusion | nthanks again bye |
| 00:42.59 | JeffM2501 | there is a way to build in the plugin into the mac |
| 00:43.02 | JeffM2501 | it's not prety |
| 00:43.04 | JeffM2501 | but it's posible |
| 00:43.09 | JeffM2501 | just a couple changes in a couple places |
| 00:43.21 | A-Delusion | if its worth it for a test? |
| 00:43.35 | A-Delusion | nthe plugin will still be buggy? |
| 00:43.43 | A-Delusion | ndoes that matter? |
| 00:43.44 | JeffM2501 | it'll do what it does now |
| 00:43.58 | JeffM2501 | the only thing that dosn't work on the mac is the actual plugin loader |
| 00:44.02 | A-Delusion | nwill future plugin builds work? |
| 00:44.16 | JeffM2501 | what you can do is include the plugin CXX file in your mac build |
| 00:44.27 | JeffM2501 | and call the init and destroy functions manualy |
| 00:44.30 | JeffM2501 | it's a horible hack |
| 00:44.36 | JeffM2501 | but it woudl work |
| 00:44.41 | A-Delusion | ok got that, |
| 00:44.57 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to rehack it everytime the plugin changed |
| 00:45.05 | JeffM2501 | and when you wanted to go back to the real plugin way |
| 00:45.14 | A-Delusion | nyeah, thats why we wont do it now |
| 00:45.38 | A-Delusion | nwait till the plugin is better |
| 00:45.55 | A-Delusion | n i have n disease real bad |
| 00:46.44 | A-Delusion | so if i did bbuild it, i call the commands from inside client? |
| 00:47.03 | JeffM2501 | all the / commands are handled by the server |
| 00:47.07 | JeffM2501 | the client just sends em thru |
| 00:47.21 | JeffM2501 | well most of the / commands |
| 00:47.23 | A-Delusion | i call the plugin from terminal. |
| 00:47.26 | JeffM2501 | there are a few client side one |
| 00:47.45 | JeffM2501 | if the plugin uses / commands then yes |
| 00:47.50 | A-Delusion | yeah, lets get it going windoze, worry bout that later.... |
| 00:47.50 | JeffM2501 | plugins can do a lot more |
| 00:47.55 | JeffM2501 | RPGs uses / commands IIRC |
| 00:48.08 | JeffM2501 | and a couple mesasge hooks |
| 00:48.12 | A-Delusion | RPG is my savior |
| 00:48.29 | JeffM2501 | a couple other people were going to make leauge reporter plugins too |
| 00:48.37 | JeffM2501 | I'm not too keen on the way he's doing it |
| 00:48.41 | JeffM2501 | I'd have done it dif |
| 00:48.43 | A-Delusion | i meant call the loadlugin command inside client |
| 00:48.44 | JeffM2501 | but it'll work |
| 00:49.07 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, you can do that or put -loadplugin pluginname in your config or command line when you start the server |
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| 00:49.28 | JeffM2501 | that will start them at startup automaitly |
| 00:49.31 | A-Delusion | he's amazing--- ok i understand, i have the synax too |
| 00:49.46 | A-Delusion | syntax |
| 00:50.37 | A-Delusion | Alright I'm off, been really nice tawkin to you jeff |
| 00:50.47 | JeffM2501 | see ya |
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| 00:53.26 | bz3636 | gfgfg |
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| 01:02.28 | autocosm2 | Nobody's really on |
| 01:02.40 | autocosm2 | I've already been banned from Vipers |
| 01:02.47 | autocosm2 | joy. |
| 01:03.02 | JeffM2501 | doing well I see |
| 01:03.30 | autocosm2 | norang was ok. everything else was fine except Viper |
| 01:03.53 | autocosm2 | good night |
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| 01:05.41 | JeffM2501 | wow he exceded my expectation |
| 01:06.02 | CBG | who? :o |
| 01:06.18 | JeffM2501 | your prdecesor |
| 01:06.40 | JeffM2501 | you did |
| 01:06.49 | CBG | as per usual :) |
| 01:07.27 | Aribeth | heh |
| 01:07.37 | CBG | so jeff, how did you make your dm-whitemeat map? |
| 01:08.06 | Aribeth | so he got banned at viper's already tonight? |
| 01:08.18 | JeffM2501 | modeltool whitemeat.bsp -bspskip textures/skies/blacksky -gsz -10.0 |
| 01:08.21 | CBG | he? |
| 01:08.36 | CBG | JeffM2501: so, you used blender, or...? |
| 01:08.40 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:08.47 | JeffM2501 | the map was made in GTKRadiant |
| 01:08.49 | JeffM2501 | not by me |
| 01:09.18 | CBG | Oooh. ;) |
| 01:09.51 | JeffM2501 | it probably needs -gx 1.25 tho |
| 01:15.15 | JeffM2501 | I'm trying to get qxdm1 to work now |
| 01:15.43 | JeffM2501 | ACarFrondDown, it was call of honor, he's been thru that same speel like 5 times now |
| 01:15.52 | JeffM2501 | every time he gets rebaned right away |
| 01:16.15 | JeffM2501 | this time I even had a couple server admins /msg me that I should not let him in |
| 01:17.00 | ACarFrondDown | JeffM2501: yeah, I wouldn't let him in. he's on perma-ban status on secretplace |
| 01:17.02 | JeffM2501 | so yes I get a little aonyed by the fact that he just comes in, and the only reason he can think of for why he should be unbend is so he can host a map |
| 01:17.15 | ACarFrondDown | hehe - it did show a bit of ... cahones |
| 01:17.23 | JeffM2501 | when he can't even admit that he was a jerk in the first place untill you beat it out of him |
| 01:17.49 | ACarFrondDown | and even then it's with sarcasm |
| 01:18.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:18.43 | JeffM2501 | he allmost acts like a little child on a timeout |
| 01:18.48 | JeffM2501 | just wait till it's over |
| 01:19.08 | orange | what was the name of that contest/whatever bzflag was in back in the 1.7g days, where the field and stream map was used? Anybody remember? |
| 01:19.15 | orange | the server was named for the contest |
| 01:21.05 | menotume | tux-something ? |
| 01:21.19 | menotume | something-tux |
| 01:21.28 | JeffM2501 | maybe still linked on the bzflag main page |
| 01:21.34 | JeffM2501 | it hasn't been updated since then :) |
| 01:22.06 | CBG | JeffM2501: I doubt it was updated to include news of this "contest". :P |
| 01:22.18 | JeffM2501 | CBG, it was |
| 01:22.20 | JeffM2501 | I remember it |
| 01:22.27 | JeffM2501 | it's probably still in wiki |
| 01:22.28 | orange | happy penguin |
| 01:22.29 | CBG | Yeah.... Joke.... :) |
| 01:22.36 | menotume | that's it |
| 01:22.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:22.44 | orange | hah, that was so fun |
| 01:22.50 | orange | the first place I played |
| 01:22.57 | JeffM2501 | BZFlag FrontPage UserPreferences |
| 01:22.57 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.57 | JeffM2501 | Welcome to the BZFlag Wiki! Please add to these pages! |
| 01:22.57 | JeffM2501 | Users |
| 01:22.57 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.58 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.00 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.02 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.03 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.11 | CBG | ^ spam. |
| 01:23.11 | menotume | paster !! |
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| 01:24.40 | A-Delusion | jeff, it wont run |
| 01:24.54 | Gnurdux | hey where is the plugin CVS? |
| 01:24.58 | Gnurdux | what server etc? |
| 01:25.28 | A-Delusion | jeff gave me a special bzfs |
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| 01:25.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 01:26.05 | JeffM2501 | sorry bout that |
| 01:26.31 | A-Delusion | he says the server wont start |
| 01:26.38 | JeffM2501 | and the error is? |
| 01:26.41 | A-Delusion | nill have to relay from him.... |
| 01:26.51 | JeffM2501 | how are you talking to him? |
| 01:26.55 | JeffM2501 | via e-mail? |
| 01:27.16 | A-Delusion | hes coming here i hope |
| 01:27.45 | A-Delusion | i think maybe he's just being stoop. |
| 01:28.06 | A-Delusion | he replaced his old bzfs with yours |
| 01:28.33 | A-Delusion | other than that i dont know |
| 01:29.00 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 01:29.05 | JeffM2501 | well I have to go home in a sec |
| 01:29.30 | A-Delusion | said he has an irc client, never used it |
| 01:29.49 | A-Delusion | on his way i hope..... |
| 01:31.21 | CBG | A-Delusion: so you'r not talking about RPG...? |
| 01:31.41 | A-Delusion | no this is tropic, one of two windows servers |
| 01:32.02 | A-Delusion | theres only two i know of, i tried most of em... |
| 01:32.05 | CBG | ok. |
| 01:32.15 | A-Delusion | 90 percent linux |
| 01:32.28 | Gnurdux | where is the BZFS plugin CVS? |
| 01:32.36 | A-Delusion | sadly rpg wont be back till sunday night |
| 01:32.41 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, there is more then one |
| 01:33.04 | Gnurdux | ill stfw then |
| 01:33.11 | JeffM2501 | what? |
| 01:33.28 | A-Delusion | stfu. |
| 01:33.39 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, what plugin are you looking for? |
| 01:34.43 | Gnurdux | something wegstar made |
| 01:34.51 | Gnurdux | he didnt have a chance to tell me much about it |
| 01:34.58 | Gnurdux | i just wanna take a look at it |
| 01:35.08 | JeffM2501 | he is still working on his plugin, I don't belive it is in cvs at this time |
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| 01:35.25 | CBG | Tropican8! :) |
| 01:35.29 | Tropican8 | Hey guys |
| 01:35.42 | Gnurdux | wegstar have you read the forums? |
| 01:35.42 | Gnurdux | Gnurdux what on them? |
| 01:35.42 | Gnurdux | wegstar look at the CVS plugins |
| 01:35.42 | Gnurdux | Gnurdux is it posted? |
| 01:35.42 | Gnurdux | wegstar yes |
| 01:35.43 | Gnurdux | wegstar search for plugins |
| 01:35.45 | Gnurdux | wegstar gotta go :( |
| 01:35.52 | Gnurdux | so maybe on forums? |
| 01:35.54 | A-Delusion | so what exactly did the server say? |
| 01:35.55 | CBG | A-D, Jeff and Tropica: you can come #KAS if you want. |
| 01:35.56 | Gnurdux | but i couldnt find it |
| 01:36.01 | Gnurdux | i searched them for wegstar |
| 01:36.12 | Tropican8 | Its a error in libcurl |
| 01:36.26 | Tropican8 | No messages from bzfs other than that with -dddd |
| 01:36.45 | JeffM2501 | what is the rror? |
| 01:36.47 | A-Delusion | exactly? |
| 01:37.06 | Tropican8 | I can't tell, I get the standard windows crash thing |
| 01:37.20 | JeffM2501 | with no config at all? |
| 01:37.30 | Tropican8 | no config, config nothing works |
| 01:37.35 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 01:37.45 | Tropican8 | I'ts not the plugin I don't think |
| 01:37.55 | Tropican8 | I haven't even loaded it |
| 01:37.59 | JeffM2501 | if you don't have a config it's not using it yet |
| 01:38.04 | A-Delusion | must not be |
| 01:38.11 | JeffM2501 | do you have a libcurl DLL? |
| 01:38.15 | Tropican8 | yes I do |
| 01:38.25 | Tropican8 | Do I need a special version? |
| 01:38.33 | JeffM2501 | no you should not |
| 01:38.44 | Tropican8 | I'm, gonna try again now, brb |
| 01:38.45 | JeffM2501 | wierdness |
| 01:38.53 | JeffM2501 | well I'll go home and do a full 15 package |
| 01:39.08 | Tropican8 | Just wait s sec, I'm trying again |
| 01:39.19 | JeffM2501 | dosn |
| 01:39.23 | JeffM2501 | dosm |
| 01:39.24 | JeffM2501 | bahh |
| 01:39.26 | A-Delusion | i'm getting very used to waiting |
| 01:39.38 | JeffM2501 | dosn't change that we need a 15 package anyway |
| 01:39.46 | Tropican8 | ok |
| 01:39.46 | JeffM2501 | A-Delusion, gotta love the mac ;) |
| 01:39.51 | A-Delusion | doesnt bother me anymore..... |
| 01:40.21 | A-Delusion | Ive been using macs longer than most around here have been alive |
| 01:40.33 | JeffM2501 | well that's not that long :) |
| 01:40.47 | Tropican8 | I've used OS 7, OS 8, OS 9, OS 10 |
| 01:40.56 | A-Delusion | i got one in '83, before that a commodore 64 |
| 01:41.03 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 01:41.17 | Tropican8 | 83' was that a Apple ][ or a Mac? |
| 01:41.17 | A-Delusion | nand a vic-20 too |
| 01:41.18 | JeffM2501 | ahh the joys of system 6's legacy |
| 01:41.31 | Tropican8 | I'm a cp/m man meself |
| 01:42.19 | A-Delusion | i still keep my vic-20 manual, for posterity |
| 01:42.29 | Tropican8 | lol |
| 01:42.41 | CBG | We still have an LC in the house. ;) |
| 01:42.44 | Tropican8 | I have Windows 1.0 on my other comp |
| 01:42.57 | Tropican8 | 1.0 is so much more stable than xp lol |
| 01:43.03 | CBG | Lol |
| 01:43.05 | A-Delusion | i got an lc575 too |
| 01:43.16 | A-Delusion | collecting dust |
| 01:43.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/tools/modeltool/ (Q3BSP.cxx model.h modeltool.cxx): |
| 01:43.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: write out ent list as a set of custom objects. |
| 01:43.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: turn anything that has a pos, and is NOT a map model, into a spawn point for the fixedSpawn plugin |
| 01:43.38 | CBG | My brother was using our LC untill recently. ;) |
| 01:43.39 | Gnurdux | cyall tomorrow |
| 01:43.46 | JeffM2501 | well if apple had not decided to do the dynamic library stuff difrent, you could have had plugins by now |
| 01:43.53 | CBG | Coding in the original basic which refused to work on an iMac. |
| 01:44.05 | A-Delusion | tropic.... |
| 01:44.10 | Tropican8 | yes |
| 01:44.17 | JeffM2501 | so can I go home now? |
| 01:44.23 | A-Delusion | got anything important? |
| 01:44.31 | Tropican8 | you said not to bother, lol I'm trying now |
| 01:44.42 | CBG | Jeff: no. >:) |
| 01:44.44 | JeffM2501 | I just said we had to rebuild |
| 01:44.57 | Tropican8 | very sorry, trying again now |
| 01:45.27 | CBG | Thats ok, I only use the name "CBG" on IRC, cause my full name exceeds the char-limit. |
| 01:45.43 | JeffM2501 | it scans for IPs too |
| 01:45.55 | CBG | That's cool, mine is dynamic. |
| 01:46.05 | Tropican8 | bzfs.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close |
| 01:46.07 | JeffM2501 | and mac address |
| 01:46.13 | JeffM2501 | wierdness |
| 01:46.17 | CBG | "mac address"...? |
| 01:46.19 | JeffM2501 | what makes you say it's libcurl? |
| 01:46.39 | Tropican8 | because that's what's failing in the MS error report |
| 01:46.52 | Tropican8 | It says appname bzfs.exe |
| 01:47.05 | Tropican8 | modname:libcurl.dll |
| 01:47.16 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 01:47.24 | JeffM2501 | let me find my libcurl |
| 01:47.28 | Tropican8 | k |
| 01:48.14 | Tropican8 | I have a crash log, you want it? |
| 01:48.26 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:48.31 | Tropican8 | ok |
| 01:48.32 | JeffM2501 | it is only valid on your system anyway |
| 01:48.36 | Tropican8 | true |
| 01:49.06 | Tropican8 | all I did this last time is run bzfs, no config file, no arguments |
| 01:49.24 | Tropican8 | same crash with arguments of any kind, including a config |
| 01:49.29 | A-Delusion | no plugin |
| 01:49.34 | Tropican8 | no plugin |
| 01:49.41 | JeffM2501 | if it dies sans config, it's going to die WITH a config :) |
| 01:49.48 | CBG | so now, bzfs wont work at all? |
| 01:49.51 | Tropican8 | I haven't even tried loading the plugin yet |
| 01:49.56 | Tropican8 | no it won't work at all |
| 01:49.58 | JeffM2501 | where did your old bzfs come from? |
| 01:50.08 | Tropican8 | the last b14 build |
| 01:50.13 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 01:50.49 | JeffM2501 | http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/libcurl.zip |
| 01:50.52 | JeffM2501 | use that |
| 01:50.54 | Tropican8 | k |
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| 01:51.48 | Tropican8 | it works |
| 01:51.56 | A-Delusion | go home jeff |
| 01:52.03 | Tropican8 | I'm gonna try it with a conf in a sec |
| 01:52.14 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 01:52.18 | JeffM2501 | best of luck |
| 01:52.23 | Tropican8 | thx |
| 01:52.36 | A-Delusion | pulling me out of a ditch again jeff... |
| 01:53.18 | CBG | without making you look like a fool too... grml. |
| 01:53.41 | A-Delusion | well just looking like a fool is better than.... |
| 01:53.55 | CBG | :) |
| 01:54.10 | A-Delusion | we talked about that b4 cbg |
| 01:54.16 | CBG | we did? |
| 01:54.27 | A-Delusion | awhile ago |
| 01:54.35 | CBG | The only talk with you I remember was the lesbian one... |
| 01:54.46 | A-Delusion | i got a little on the macserver help again |
| 01:55.00 | CBG | PM it to me |
| 01:55.05 | A-Delusion | still going for sunday release? |
| 01:55.09 | CBG | oh crap... sunday is the day after tomorow |
| 01:55.11 | CBG | :( |
| 01:55.22 | Tropican8 | Hey A-D, go to port 4201, I have a suprise for you :-) |
| 01:55.23 | CBG | I totally forgot all about it. |
| 01:55.27 | A-Delusion | nok ill send it when its ready... |
| 01:55.39 | A-Delusion | u 2 cbg |
| 01:56.18 | Tropican8 | hehehe |
| 01:56.20 | CBG | wont let me... |
| 01:56.28 | Tropican8 | because I started a match |
| 01:56.41 | Tropican8 | It works that's why |
| 01:56.47 | A-Delusion | its supposed to do that |
| 01:56.55 | A-Delusion | use match end |
| 01:57.05 | Tropican8 | hehehe I just said that I know this is great |
| 01:57.26 | A-Delusion | try observer |
| 01:57.31 | Tropican8 | umm the server shuts down |
| 01:57.39 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.49 | Tropican8 | I'm an admin |
| 01:57.58 | CBG | me too. |
| 01:57.58 | Tropican8 | logged in w/ pass and all |
| 01:58.10 | CBG | I just did /match_end... it worked |
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| 01:58.44 | CBG | oookay, i broke the server... |
| 01:58.59 | A-Delusion | tropic left here too |
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| 01:59.17 | A-Delusion | it wont let you join during a match |
| 01:59.20 | CBG | what happened? |
| 01:59.23 | Tropican8 | I know that |
| 01:59.27 | A-Delusion | nexcept observer |
| 01:59.32 | Tropican8 | I know |
| 01:59.37 | Tropican8 | that's not the prob |
| 01:59.51 | A-Delusion | ..... |
| 01:59.57 | CBG | the prob is that the server is down |
| 02:00.00 | Tropican8 | when I ended the match it crashed |
| 02:00.14 | A-Delusion | we gotta expect lots of bugs |
| 02:00.26 | A-Delusion | ndid it create a match report? |
| 02:00.41 | Tropican8 | I'll see |
| 02:00.57 | A-Delusion | nyou MAY HAVE TO RESTART SERVER AFTER EVERY match |
| 02:00.58 | Tropican8 | I'm sorry this is going so slow, my mouse died on me |
| 02:01.09 | A-Delusion | relax |
| 02:01.47 | Tropican8 | no report |
| 02:02.01 | A-Delusion | cbg type /match for rules, when back on |
| 02:02.02 | CBG | maybe cause we didnt get to 7 caps? |
| 02:02.12 | A-Delusion | ncould be |
| 02:02.12 | CBG | cant, im going now. |
| 02:02.19 | CBG | 3AM == bedtime :) |
| 02:02.29 | A-Delusion | nits supposed to cuss at you if you report too early? |
| 02:02.36 | CBG | you cant deprive me my beauty sleep. :) |
| 02:02.40 | Tropican8 | lol |
| 02:02.49 | A-Delusion | jeez. i forgot cbg's in london |
| 02:02.54 | CBG | no. |
| 02:02.57 | CBG | i'm not. |
| 02:03.00 | A-Delusion | nclose |
| 02:03.03 | CBG | I'm in Wales. |
| 02:03.06 | CBG | Big difference. |
| 02:03.22 | A-Delusion | nso go sleepy |
| 02:03.26 | CBG | Anyway, bye |
| 02:03.33 | CBG | cya guys later today. :) |
| 02:03.42 | A-Delusion | ok cbg see you soon |
| 02:04.01 | A-Delusion | toodle oo |
| 02:04.33 | Tropican8 | I gtg translate some dirty latin this hot girl wrote in her AIM profile, brb |
| 02:04.49 | A-Delusion | come- on |
| 02:05.41 | Tropican8 | Well what can we do now? |
| 02:05.53 | A-Delusion | restart it |
| 02:06.02 | Tropican8 | I have priorities give me a sec |
| 02:06.07 | A-Delusion | ndont start match till ready |
| 02:06.14 | Tropican8 | fine |
| 02:06.29 | A-Delusion | your on the public list |
| 02:06.51 | Tropican8 | yeah cause it crashed |
| 02:07.04 | Tropican8 | didn't issue the REMOVE line to the listserver |
| 02:07.18 | Tropican8 | Its going back up now though won't matter |
| 02:07.29 | A-Delusion | i hope it doesnt crash at every match end |
| 02:07.42 | Tropican8 | yeah that would kinda defeat the purpose |
| 02:08.05 | A-Delusion | nbut we can test everything up to then would be do- able |
| 02:08.13 | Tropican8 | k its up |
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| 02:19.09 | A-Delusion | it works but crashes at end of match |
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| 02:19.19 | Tropican8 | I could see that lol |
| 02:19.31 | A-Delusion | you got the report? |
| 02:19.37 | Tropican8 | I'll check |
| 02:19.59 | Tropican8 | no I didn't |
| 02:20.13 | A-Delusion | ok its only bug so far tho |
| 02:20.31 | Tropican8 | yeah I'd say that's pretty big |
| 02:20.35 | A-Delusion | its prob trying to send to rpg's directory |
| 02:20.49 | Tropican8 | yeah |
| 02:21.00 | A-Delusion | nneeds to be configurable |
| 02:21.06 | Tropican8 | yeah |
| 02:21.11 | A-Delusion | nbut it tested up to then fine |
| 02:21.20 | Tropican8 | nyeah |
| 02:21.23 | A-Delusion | nput it back up!!!!! |
| 02:21.29 | Tropican8 | nok |
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| 02:21.54 | A-Delusion | yippee yiiieieieie yayayayayyyyy |
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| 02:25.16 | Aribeth | god i hate the kiddies on bz today |
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| 02:25.50 | JeffM2501 | mmmmm uuudooonnnnn |
| 02:26.09 | JeffM2501 | and nasty tea |
| 02:26.13 | A-Delusion | its workin jeff |
| 02:26.18 | JeffM2501 | cooleo |
| 02:26.29 | A-Delusion | goto tropics server if you wanna seeit |
| 02:26.32 | JeffM2501 | untill I change the API I again :) |
| 02:28.39 | trepan | ~Aribeth++ |
| 02:29.42 | Aribeth | a kid came in on sleepycows as WHAMMOCHEATS then aribeth is stupid |
| 02:30.04 | Aribeth | so he and his father got a 1 day ban |
| 02:30.27 | Aribeth | his father wouldnt do anything about his kids actions |
| 02:31.06 | Aribeth | si i did |
| 02:31.14 | Aribeth | s/si/so |
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| 02:31.47 | Aribeth | howdy Grumbler |
| 02:31.55 | Aribeth | heh |
| 02:32.00 | trepan | better to use '0' as the bantime, single key press, easier to type |
| 02:32.26 | Aribeth | im considering a long ban |
| 02:32.27 | Grumbler | doh, hey Aribeth |
| 02:33.07 | Grumbler | ban'em, ban'em all |
| 02:34.10 | Aribeth | the kid as bad, the father didnt care, so they both got banned |
| 02:34.14 | Aribeth | :) |
| 02:34.40 | Aribeth | the father plays as Who? |
| 02:34.40 | foo-on-fire | how do people make their hills? |
| 02:34.49 | foo-on-fire | i mean |
| 02:34.50 | foo-on-fire | weird |
| 02:34.54 | foo-on-fire | rocks and hills and stuff |
| 02:35.02 | Aribeth | wings3d, blender, etc |
| 02:35.07 | foo-on-fire | oh |
| 02:35.08 | foo-on-fire | i see |
| 02:41.28 | foo-on-fire | hmm |
| 02:41.41 | foo-on-fire | i'm having a hard time trying to make bumpy rocks with blender |
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| 02:43.49 | Aribeth | hi SC |
| 02:48.23 | foo-on-fire | can i make an object constantly bobbing up and down as if it were in water? |
| 02:48.47 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:49.16 | JeffM2501 | objects can't move |
| 02:49.47 | foo-on-fire | aww |
| 02:49.59 | foo-on-fire | they should be able to. |
| 02:50.05 | JeffM2501 | they can't |
| 02:50.42 | foo-on-fire | well, you guys should implement this feature |
| 02:50.51 | JeffM2501 | code it up |
| 02:51.05 | foo-on-fire | maybe, if i have the time... :) |
| 02:51.41 | JeffM2501 | it's been talked about |
| 02:51.49 | JeffM2501 | there are issues with geting it to work right |
| 02:51.56 | JeffM2501 | like synciing it up on all players |
| 02:52.13 | JeffM2501 | so they all get the exact same collision detection |
| 02:52.20 | JeffM2501 | it's harder since the server dosnt' do a lot of it |
| 02:52.34 | foo-on-fire | hmm |
| 02:52.43 | foo-on-fire | yes, i suppose that would be very hard |
| 02:53.04 | JeffM2501 | it's not that hard, it just has to be done right, or it's a huge mess |
| 02:53.06 | foo-on-fire | now that i think of it |
| 02:53.35 | JeffM2501 | everyone felt that time would be better spent on making the networking and server more solid |
| 02:53.44 | JeffM2501 | then it would be easyer once the server can sync stuff |
| 02:53.50 | foo-on-fire | yes |
| 02:54.22 | JeffM2501 | now for little things that are like fluff, and arn't collideable, I don't see why a simple path can't be put on the object |
| 02:54.26 | JeffM2501 | since it would not have to be synced |
| 02:55.36 | foo-on-fire | hmm |
| 02:55.36 | foo-on-fire | brb |
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| 04:12.14 | A-Delusion | it's great jeff thanx again, but it crashes at the end of every match |
| 04:12.40 | A-Delusion | otherwise near-perfect |
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| 05:46.38 | Twingy | moo |
| 05:49.30 | Aribeth | moo |
| 05:59.24 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.24 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.24 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.24 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.24 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.25 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.33 | BenUrban | don't abuse cowsay... |
| 05:59.38 | Pimpinella | ...."Have you mooed today?"... |
| 05:59.44 | BenUrban | and don't make me paste a dragon in here |
| 05:59.56 | BenUrban | or some other excessively large cowsay |
| 06:00.17 | BenUrban | oh wow it's 2am |
| 06:00.20 | BenUrban | i should sleep |
| 06:00.51 | Twingy | muu |
| 06:01.12 | BenUrban | nowya done it |
| 06:02.24 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.26 | BenUrban | < Moo! > |
| 06:02.26 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.26 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.26 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.26 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.28 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.29 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.31 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.35 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.37 | BenUrban | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.39 | BenUrban | see what you did? |
| 06:02.41 | BenUrban | ok i sleep now |
| 06:02.58 | Pimpinella | moo |
| 06:03.39 | Aribeth | moo |
| 06:03.54 | Aribeth | moo |
| 06:04.01 | BenUrban | oow |
| 06:04.09 | BenUrban | well that didn't work :P |
| 06:04.29 | BenUrban | ok enough spamming |
| 06:04.31 | BenUrban | sleep now |
| 06:05.48 | Aribeth | moo moo |
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| 07:25.49 | DTRemenak | bahhh...hour and a half of debugging to find a stray "&" :( |
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| 08:05.08 | silverfox | silvercat.tybox.net:5154 (overlord/babel) is back up now. |
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| 09:26.34 | silverfox | what mta should I use if I just need to send mail (for alert scripts and such) |
| 09:44.33 | Pimpinella | silverfox: ssmtp |
| 09:45.08 | Pimpinella | really small, easy to configure and works out of the box in a chroot |
| 09:45.25 | Pimpinella | it's what i use |
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| 10:01.02 | silverfox | cool. |
| 10:01.06 | silverfox | it works well. |
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| 12:30.04 | Gnurdux | im thinkin, you were saying there cant be server side bots since clients need a network connection, so a plugin cant jsut do that |
| 12:30.23 | Gnurdux | couldnt a plugin "cheat" and use socketpair or something to simulate a network connection |
| 12:34.03 | silverfox | it'd be easier to write a bot client that would run on the server and connect to localhost |
| 12:34.35 | silverfox | just take out fall the graphical stuff. |
| 12:37.46 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 12:38.07 | Gnurdux | yes i see |
| 12:39.41 | Gnurdux | how good is the bzflag robot? |
| 12:39.56 | Gnurdux | the one in the client |
| 12:42.15 | Chestal | it works ok on the ground |
| 12:42.33 | Chestal | aims pretty well, some basic evading, but it's far too dumb and does no flags |
| 12:43.05 | Chestal | playing against 3 of the bots on a random map without flags is good training though |
| 12:44.13 | Chestal | that is the -solo bots, there also is the autopilot which bahves differently |
| 12:55.08 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 12:55.33 | Gnurdux | well is there a way fro the client to only run -solo bots and not open a window? |
| 12:55.44 | Gnurdux | whgen i do -slo it dtill opens a window |
| 12:57.00 | Chestal | no |
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| 12:57.30 | autocosm2 | good morning |
| 12:57.36 | autocosm2 | !weather 03801 |
| 12:57.38 | TheLastSpartan` | autocosm2: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 70°F (7:55 AM EDT on August 06, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 61°F. Pressure: 30.14 in (1020 hPa). Visibility: 20.0 miles (32.2 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 16 |
| 12:57.52 | Gnurdux | !help |
| 12:57.52 | TheLastSpartan` | Gnurdux: (help [<plugin>] <command>) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 12:57.57 | Gnurdux | so a supybot |
| 12:59.05 | Tupone | Gnurdux: if you look through the SF patches I did once long time ago, that did run bots, without displaying anything, just an hack, and patch was against an old version |
| 12:59.24 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 12:59.26 | Gnurdux | hmmm |
| 12:59.36 | Gnurdux | im running a pacman map from shellshock that i map ctf |
| 12:59.50 | Gnurdux | what would be better, that or the new overlord/grassroots? |
| 13:00.42 | Gnurdux | so no command line options |
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| 13:06.31 | Gnurdux | or i could run legoland |
| 13:06.58 | ToughShooter | ping Saturos |
| 13:07.09 | Saturos | :) |
| 13:45.51 | Grumbler | good morning all |
| 13:55.07 | Gnurdux | yay |
| 13:55.10 | Gnurdux | my langauge works |
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| 14:07.53 | bzflagwiz | Tupone: ping |
| 14:08.05 | Tupone | pong |
| 14:08.13 | bzflagwiz | Did you get the email I sent you? |
| 14:08.14 | menotume | pang |
| 14:08.20 | Tupone | when ? lemme se |
| 14:08.42 | Tupone | ah yes about that IP |
| 14:08.44 | bzflagwiz | Couple days ago - to your @users.sourceforge.net |
| 14:08.49 | bzflagwiz | yep |
| 14:09.14 | Tupone | well, just curiosity, not that I run bzfs |
| 14:09.15 | bzflagwiz | Interesting thing I noticed later is that the guy ALWAYS signed off within 1 second of signing on |
| 14:09.37 | bzflagwiz | and not from being banned |
| 14:09.59 | Tupone | Have you updated sp ? |
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| 14:10.29 | Tupone | or are you still evaluating? |
| 14:10.36 | bzflagwiz | Just got it recompiled and am evaluating this weekend |
| 14:11.07 | bzflagwiz | Maybe I haven't looked hard enough yet, but how do I run it with plugins |
| 14:11.08 | Tupone | you know the main difference of relenvance is the IP antiban |
| 14:11.24 | Tupone | I'm not a plugin man. I hate those |
| 14:11.40 | bzflagwiz | Yes - the improved antiban stuff will be nice |
| 14:12.14 | Tupone | and also the hostban should be more effective. Player wait for DNS resolving before allowed to enter |
| 14:13.00 | bzflagwiz | haven't peeked at the new logs yet, but is the host information back in the log files? |
| 14:13.19 | Tupone | I don't know really :/ |
| 14:13.22 | bzflagwiz | meaning, the text string that you would use for hostbans |
| 14:13.35 | bzflagwiz | ok |
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| 14:14.13 | Tupone | you should try and whine if needed |
| 14:14.41 | bzflagwiz | I'll probably get told to write a plugin for it :) |
| 14:15.07 | Tupone | if you wanna those things made by me, don't ask about plugins |
| 14:15.43 | bzflagwiz | :) |
| 14:16.57 | bzflagwiz | That and an indication of the recipient of each message in the log files would be nice |
| 14:17.48 | Grumbler | havent seen that name on the scoreboard in a long time..........and after so many deaths, maybe i dont want to :) |
| 14:18.09 | Tupone | what are you talking about ? |
| 14:18.55 | Tupone | I don't think you refer to c3po |
| 14:19.03 | Grumbler | heh |
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| 16:34.23 | autocosm2 | JeffM2501 |
| 16:35.15 | autocosm2 | I feel slightly better. Happy Tanker accepted my mistakes. |
| 16:35.29 | autocosm2 | !weater 03801 |
| 16:35.29 | TheLastSpartan` | autocosm2: Guu des whakaremasen! |
| 16:35.42 | autocosm2 | !weather 03801 |
| 16:35.43 | TheLastSpartan` | autocosm2: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 77°F (11:55 AM EDT on August 06, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 57°F. Wind: NNW at 8 mph (13 km/h). Pressure: 30.15 in (1021 hPa). Visibility: 20.0 miles (32.2 kilometers). UV: 5 out of 16 |
| 16:35.55 | autocosm2 | bye |
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| 17:31.57 | sc-phone | gmorning all |
| 17:34.07 | blast007 | morning :) |
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| 19:10.41 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/tools/modeltool/Q3BSP.cxx: |
| 19:10.41 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: break up concave thigns into valid faces so that poly faces look correct ( surfs and meshes are still a little jacked, but it is now useable ) |
| 19:10.41 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: add in export of spawns |
| 19:15.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/fixedspawn/ (6 files): fixedspawn plugin to read fixed pos spawns from a map and use them instead of default spawn logic. |
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| 19:50.31 | JeffM2501 | just baned professorChaos from the boards, does he need a masterban too? |
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| 19:56.48 | bryjen | i was going to ask you about that thread, but it was midday Friday, and there hadn't been a post in a few hours, so i was hoping it had burned itself down |
| 19:57.15 | JeffM2501 | I mean damn |
| 19:57.22 | JeffM2501 | those people are just stupid |
| 19:58.02 | JeffM2501 | If I ever need a fire fuled I'll call them |
| 19:58.26 | bryjen | never underestimate a human's capacity for stupidity |
| 19:59.21 | JeffM2501 | aperantly |
| 20:06.57 | bryjen | i don't recall seeing professorChaos much in-game. |
| 20:18.11 | JeffM2501 | probably other names |
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| 20:22.09 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: usernames on the board are case sensitive right? |
| 20:22.19 | Thumper_ | shouldn't the bzfs Identify message also be? |
| 20:24.23 | JeffM2501 | I don't think they are |
| 20:24.59 | Thumper_ | hmm ok |
| 20:25.50 | Thumper_ | ok looks like you are correct |
| 20:26.00 | Thumper_ | nevermind. :D |
| 20:26.43 | Thumper_ | it just struck me as 'weird' that the Identify msg |
| 20:26.51 | Thumper_ | puts the callsign in all uppercase when the |
| 20:27.02 | Thumper_ | log message doesn't |
| 20:27.50 | Thumper_ | The Identify message is the only one I've seen that uppercases the callsign |
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| 20:31.29 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/playersearch.php?callsign=chaos&page=2 |
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| 21:05.35 | Birdie | chestal, menotume, meacan: is 4vs4 allowed in the league? |
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| 21:31.42 | meacan | Birdie: only 2vs2 and 3vs3 |
| 21:32.26 | Birdie | k ty |
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| 22:32.31 | Autocosm | I need help with my map |
| 22:32.57 | Autocosm | hello? |
| 22:33.40 | Autocosm | I NEED HELP! |
| 22:35.05 | purple_cow | Autocosm: just ask whatever your question is |
| 22:35.09 | Autocosm | I need to know how to make artificial land that a tank can drive on (looks like grass) and an ocean that will stop killing tanks |
| 22:35.49 | Autocosm | I have an entire city based 700m/u up |
| 22:36.24 | purple_cow | Autocosm: come back when you've read the available documentation |
| 22:36.32 | Autocosm | huh? |
| 22:36.46 | Autocosm | nvm |
| 22:36.50 | purple_cow | people have written documentation on how to do what you're asking |
| 22:36.51 | purple_cow | read it |
| 22:37.15 | Autocosm | it doesn't make sense.... |
| 22:37.26 | purple_cow | which part? |
| 22:37.37 | Autocosm | the land |
| 22:37.47 | purple_cow | what are you reading? give me a link |
| 22:39.25 | Autocosm | i just lost it!\ |
| 22:39.51 | Autocosm | forget it |
| 22:39.51 | TheLastSpartan` | I've never heard of it, Autocosm! |
| 22:40.07 | Autocosm | heard of what? |
| 22:40.39 | purple_cow | Autocosm: seriously, people here don't have time to hold everyone's hand, that's why the documentation is there. it's easy to find on google, and we're really happy to help *after* you've tried to do some work on your own |
| 22:40.42 | Pimpi | what would be a test for 'find' to find all files older than 5 days? |
| 22:41.04 | bryjen | -mtime +5 |
| 22:41.13 | Pimpi | ty |
| 22:41.31 | Autocosm | all i need to know is this fancy 2.0 stuff. Like the mesh boxes and coloring them and water! |
| 22:42.02 | purple_cow | Autocosm: yeah, it's in the docs |
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| 22:42.34 | foo-on-fire | in Display Options, what does Smoothing do? |
| 22:42.41 | foo-on-fire | i can't seem to see a difference |
| 22:42.46 | brad2901 | Autocosm: Have you read http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking ? |
| 22:42.50 | foo-on-fire | with Smoothing on, and Smoothing off |
| 22:43.43 | Autocosm | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking#head-f5f793ec4be4dede55a5114407e9556bc8d872a3 |
| 22:44.17 | Pimpi | Autocosm: read this http://balin.pimpi.org/bzw.5.html ? |
| 22:45.15 | Pimpi | it's almost all you need |
| 22:45.39 | Autocosm | ok. So how do you add color or pictures to the boxes? |
| 22:46.16 | Pimpi | make your mesh and add your material to the face |
| 22:47.43 | Autocosm | doesn't make sense |
| 22:48.11 | Pimpi | what doesn't make sense to you? |
| 22:48.28 | Autocosm | all I want to do now is add color to a big box. I'm reading Materials. That's too much |
| 22:49.03 | brad2901 | Autocosm, make a simple meshbox first |
| 22:49.21 | brad2901 | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking#head-5a64859a1b594b2133e5bf8447541f602faba08a |
| 22:49.26 | Autocosm | and u didn't mention this brad |
| 22:49.31 | Autocosm | where do u think I AM! |
| 22:49.32 | brad2901 | ? |
| 22:49.46 | Autocosm | I'm already there! |
| 22:49.47 | brad2901 | It makes perfect sense :) |
| 22:50.10 | Autocosm | to you! I have NEVER used any of this! |
| 22:51.06 | purple_cow | guh |
| 22:51.15 | purple_cow | Autocosm: you're not even trying |
| 22:51.23 | Autocosm | screw this |
| 22:51.33 | brad2901 | erm |
| 22:51.38 | Pimpi | ack |
| 22:51.46 | brad2901 | Just as I was making him an example :) |
| 22:52.01 | purple_cow | what a surprise! CGI:IRC :P |
| 22:53.41 | Pimpi | don't waste your time on that brad2901 |
| 22:54.06 | brad2901 | :) |
| 22:54.30 | brad2901 | I won't in the future |
| 22:54.52 | Birdie | your TO good brad..:) |
| 22:55.05 | brad2901 | heh |
| 22:58.21 | Aribeth | just a hot head |
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| 23:59.38 | CBG | JeffM2501: I am intrigued... |