| 00:01.19 | purple_cow | but other than those, i can't really think of any flags i've heard of that i feel would really add anything to the game |
| 00:01.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah most of them are crap |
| 00:01.39 | JeffM2501 | I prefer a more aciton game, that's why I'd like 3 way |
| 00:01.51 | purple_cow | you know what we should do? |
| 00:02.03 | purple_cow | that game you started with the boat control pod thingies |
| 00:02.17 | JeffM2501 | screamers |
| 00:02.27 | purple_cow | yeah, that's it |
| 00:02.38 | JeffM2501 | it did have some neat physics didn't it? |
| 00:02.51 | JeffM2501 | yeah the skid and tilt |
| 00:03.19 | JeffM2501 | once I thought that maybe if you turned and stoped TOO tight, it would flip and roll a couple times as it came to a stop :) |
| 00:03.27 | JeffM2501 | but that woudl make people puke in first person :) |
| 00:03.38 | JeffM2501 | the code for that motion was HORIBLE |
| 00:03.41 | purple_cow | screw first person |
| 00:03.49 | JeffM2501 | 3rd was rather playable |
| 00:04.08 | purple_cow | well, 2nd |
| 00:04.15 | purple_cow | with some good camera logic, 2nd would be quite playable |
| 00:04.28 | JeffM2501 | you know I have been thinking of using the "type" field in MsgAddPlayer for something :) |
| 00:04.43 | JeffM2501 | it was about ready for networking |
| 00:04.47 | purple_cow | pff |
| 00:05.01 | JeffM2501 | you got part way on collisions didn't you? |
| 00:06.05 | purple_cow | maybe |
| 00:06.21 | JeffM2501 | wonder where the code it |
| 00:06.22 | JeffM2501 | is |
| 00:07.29 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:07.37 | purple_cow | of course, another project is *exactly* what i need! |
| 00:08.02 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:08.07 | *** join/#bzflag ElectricElf (~david@ElectricElf.developer.debian) |
| 00:08.22 | JeffM2501 | hmm found one, but it dosn't have the chicken |
| 00:08.26 | JeffM2501 | so it's not current code :( |
| 00:08.49 | purple_cow | if we were to do it, it'd probably make sense just to start over and base it on ogre to start with |
| 00:08.59 | JeffM2501 | well yeah |
| 00:09.06 | JeffM2501 | I just want to see if I have the physics code |
| 00:09.12 | JeffM2501 | I dono if I could dupe it again |
| 00:09.16 | JeffM2501 | I was drunk when I wrote it |
| 00:09.37 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:09.40 | JeffM2501 | tho I do have that codebase for firestarter |
| 00:09.46 | purple_cow | at least that's easy to reproduce ;) |
| 00:09.47 | JeffM2501 | ogre all set up and going |
| 00:09.51 | JeffM2501 | with networking |
| 00:10.58 | JeffM2501 | hmm this could be it |
| 00:10.58 | JeffM2501 | My Documents\FromCap\screamers |
| 00:11.33 | JeffM2501 | back in the "capitan" days for you :) |
| 00:11.45 | JeffM2501 | gack... vc6 |
| 00:12.09 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:12.21 | JeffM2501 | it burns and it stings....... |
| 00:13.10 | JeffM2501 | hmmm ogre... tnk... fmod.... |
| 00:13.15 | JeffM2501 | tnl even |
| 00:14.47 | *** join/#bzflag BenUrban (~benurban@pcp07709741pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:16.41 | JeffM2501 | and the map format makes baby J cry |
| 00:17.21 | trepan | PC on the JC, GJ |
| 00:18.24 | purple_cow | JIFM? |
| 00:18.56 | JeffM2501 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/pennyarcade/6fc1/ |
| 00:19.50 | BenUrban | oh dear... |
| 00:20.10 | trepan | http://www.bustedtees.com/images/jesus.artwork.green.home_thumb.jpg |
| 00:20.30 | BenUrban | *chuckle* |
| 00:20.35 | *** join/#bzflag _bubbles_ (~nadic666@toronto-HSE-ppp4265916.sympatico.ca) |
| 00:21.06 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:21.10 | _bubbles_ | :oP |
| 00:21.22 | JeffM2501 | CTS rocks |
| 00:24.21 | JeffM2501 | todays was prety funny |
| 00:24.29 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (~vircuser@cpe-67-10-221-4.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 00:24.38 | purple_cow | yep :) |
| 00:24.51 | spldart | Don't mind me I'm just here for b8 8-D |
| 00:25.20 | RichardRauch | CTS? "Capture The Suirrel"? (A combination of rabbit & CTF?) |
| 00:25.31 | JeffM2501 | Cardboard Tube Samuari |
| 00:25.33 | BenUrban | lmao |
| 00:25.45 | spldart | ooo ooo.. I did find a new map for my server.... :) A CTF version of LouMan's Legoland :) |
| 00:25.45 | JeffM2501 | do not mock CTS |
| 00:26.17 | spldart | Don't mind me.. I'm talking to the stealth tank ;) |
| 00:26.19 | RichardRauch | We mock what we don't understand. I heard that on GhostBusters. |
| 00:28.32 | JeffM2501 | not many people got this one |
| 00:28.32 | JeffM2501 | http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-10-01&res=l |
| 00:28.36 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow did tho |
| 00:29.03 | BenUrban | too many colors |
| 00:29.07 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:29.10 | purple_cow | i love that one :D |
| 00:29.12 | BenUrban | can't keep track |
| 00:29.13 | BenUrban | lol |
| 00:29.19 | JeffM2501 | so subtle |
| 00:29.21 | JeffM2501 | but so good |
| 00:29.32 | BenUrban | where's waldo is subtle too |
| 00:29.33 | BenUrban | lol |
| 00:29.51 | BenUrban | and it's easier to find the point :P |
| 00:30.17 | purple_cow | that one only makes sense if you've played the game |
| 00:30.29 | BenUrban | there's a game involved? |
| 00:30.39 | purple_cow | but if you haven't played it, you're HUMAN GARBAGE |
| 00:31.03 | JeffM2501 | doing the moon was too hard |
| 00:31.20 | purple_cow | it does take some practice |
| 00:31.36 | purple_cow | i bet if you tried it again, you'd find you could go well past the moon |
| 00:31.53 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:31.58 | JeffM2501 | I don't own the PS2 tho |
| 00:33.22 | JeffM2501 | there |
| 00:33.23 | JeffM2501 | http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-07-28&res=l |
| 00:33.24 | JeffM2501 | CTS |
| 00:37.07 | spldart | Ow! My eye! |
| 00:38.03 | spldart | yay! |
| 00:38.12 | BenUrban | ~blinky spldart |
| 00:38.14 | ibot | ACTION slaps spldart on the head with a three-eyed fish named Blinky |
| 00:38.17 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 00:38.18 | spldart | Now I feel like Jaqar from babylon 5 |
| 00:38.21 | spldart | they don't match |
| 00:38.21 | BenUrban | still has three... |
| 00:38.26 | spldart | eek |
| 00:38.31 | BenUrban | must be magical... |
| 00:38.41 | spldart | third eye is blind |
| 00:38.45 | BenUrban | or maybe Burns keeps dumping that toxic waste |
| 00:38.46 | BenUrban | lol |
| 00:38.49 | spldart | I want my money back |
| 00:39.41 | BenUrban | atoms! (one, two, three, four) five |
| 00:39.44 | BenUrban | of them! |
| 00:39.47 | BenUrban | take him away! |
| 00:39.55 | BenUrban | damn enter key |
| 00:39.56 | spldart | You are counting the stuff between the bills |
| 00:40.06 | BenUrban | the ink? |
| 00:40.14 | BenUrban | ;) |
| 00:40.18 | spldart | Pretty thin ink :eek: |
| 00:40.19 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:40.39 | BenUrban | === <-- ink |
| 00:40.45 | spldart | hehehehe |
| 00:40.59 | BenUrban | === <-- superglue |
| 00:41.07 | spldart | ooOOOoo |
| 00:41.19 | spldart | isocyanocrylate or whateva |
| 00:41.28 | spldart | Holds my tank together |
| 00:41.34 | spldart | that and duct tape |
| 00:41.39 | BenUrban | heh |
| 00:41.47 | spldart | Missed my neutron |
| 00:41.52 | RichardRauch | Gravity holds my tank together. |
| 00:42.04 | spldart | Weak force! |
| 00:42.04 | BenUrban | wow your tank must be huge |
| 00:42.09 | RichardRauch | (Made of neutronium.) |
| 00:42.32 | BenUrban | haha |
| 00:42.40 | spldart | spock.. phasers don't phase it |
| 00:42.50 | RichardRauch | Judge me by my tank's size, do you? |
| 00:43.07 | RichardRauch | As well you should not. For my ally is a fundamental Force. |
| 00:43.14 | BenUrban | either it's really big or really heavy or floating in space |
| 00:43.15 | spldart | Always practice safe tanking... Ranger tank commander says wrap that panzer |
| 00:43.21 | RichardRauch | Powerful ally it is. Keeps star systems in galaxies, it does. |
| 00:43.37 | spldart | I vote for space |
| 00:43.45 | RichardRauch | (Neutron star material...) |
| 00:43.49 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:44.12 | spldart | A teaspoon of which weighs more than my coc.... wait |
| 00:44.22 | BenUrban | heh |
| 00:45.23 | spldart | I'm just going to sit hera and wait till steven hawkings black hole evaporation dissolves your tank. |
| 00:45.30 | RichardRauch | Kids, don't try to do this at home. BenUrban is a professional neutronium eater. And he has good dental insurance. |
| 00:45.32 | BenUrban | LMAO |
| 00:45.40 | BenUrban | i do? |
| 00:45.47 | BenUrban | news to me |
| 00:45.59 | spldart | Well... You got them bonded didn't you? |
| 00:46.03 | RichardRauch | Oh, wait. You didn't take the spoon. You haded it off. |
| 00:46.11 | BenUrban | spldart: strong nuclear force, of course |
| 00:46.25 | spldart | mmmMMMmmm red wine... Lubes my treads real nice |
| 00:46.36 | RichardRauch | What you doin' with that spoon? |
| 00:46.38 | spldart | Quit peering out of you singularity... |
| 00:46.43 | BenUrban | lol |
| 00:46.47 | spldart | It defies the laws of physics |
| 00:46.51 | BenUrban | ROFL |
| 00:47.07 | BenUrban | in this hose we obey the laws of thermodynamics! |
| 00:47.11 | BenUrban | *house |
| 00:47.15 | spldart | woah |
| 00:47.20 | spldart | hey |
| 00:47.21 | BenUrban | haha |
| 00:47.39 | BenUrban | lmao |
| 00:47.40 | spldart | lmao |
| 00:48.11 | RichardRauch | ~thermodynamics |
| 00:48.19 | BenUrban | *chamber |
| 00:48.23 | BenUrban | ack i can't type |
| 00:48.29 | spldart | LOL at BenUrban's keyboard |
| 00:48.44 | BenUrban | electroweak :( |
| 00:49.01 | RichardRauch | ~thermodynamics |
| 00:49.03 | ibot | well, thermodynamics is the prospect that you can't win, you can't break even, and you can't quit. Applies equally to physics and casinos and (for some people) bzflag. |
| 00:49.06 | spldart | woah.... haven't grinned this hard in a while |
| 00:49.18 | BenUrban | ROFLMFAO |
| 00:49.57 | spldart | Woah... |
| 00:50.28 | spldart | I see your hiden needle and raise you a hidden ***** pump |
| 00:50.34 | spldart | 8-O |
| 00:50.36 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:51.03 | spldart | Now everybody is gonna think this tanker is a perv :( |
| 00:51.04 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:51.11 | BenUrban | yup lol |
| 00:51.23 | BenUrban | astroglide, a hidden ***** pump... |
| 00:51.31 | BenUrban | botox too... |
| 00:51.55 | BenUrban | and mismatching eyes |
| 00:52.09 | BenUrban | with one of them blind |
| 00:52.20 | spldart | I'm more F'd up than even I thought eek |
| 00:52.28 | BenUrban | indeed |
| 00:52.46 | spldart | Just call me tank BDSM or whatever it's called |
| 00:52.48 | spldart | LMAO |
| 00:52.56 | BenUrban | i'd rather not... |
| 00:53.13 | spldart | IB my tank rolls onto a map with latex and spikes and ish 8-O |
| 00:53.22 | spldart | Ok ok |
| 00:53.41 | spldart | I'll change course this rant has gone |
| 00:53.51 | BenUrban | you've done enough already |
| 00:53.59 | spldart | I messed up the whole place |
| 00:54.00 | spldart | they |
| 00:54.06 | spldart | 'll be cleaning for weeks |
| 00:54.08 | RichardRauch | Rolling your tank onto a map isn't a good idea. It's hard on the turrets everytime you go over... |
| 00:54.09 | spldart | btw |
| 00:54.18 | BenUrban | LMAO |
| 00:54.18 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:54.32 | BenUrban | ok this is a much better direction |
| 00:54.35 | spldart | I logged on to get the b8 and see what I've stepped in? |
| 00:54.54 | spldart | Get dirt in my barrel and I'll really be in trouble |
| 00:54.55 | RichardRauch | Yes. Please scrape it off your shoe before going back inside. |
| 00:55.11 | BenUrban | inside? |
| 00:55.13 | spldart | Panzer flop on my boot |
| 00:55.21 | BenUrban | so we're Outside the Asylum? |
| 00:55.34 | RichardRauch | It's all a matter of perspective. |
| 00:55.54 | BenUrban | (totally disregarding the directions) |
| 00:56.57 | RichardRauch | Boolean puffs. |
| 00:57.22 | spldart | I remember doing boolean algebra in HS.. On paper :( |
| 00:57.27 | BenUrban | heh |
| 00:57.44 | spldart | Back with Apple II's and 286's were it |
| 00:57.54 | RichardRauch | Boolean algebra...that's where you say, "Is this right?" and the answer is either "Yes" or "No"? |
| 00:58.01 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:58.09 | spldart | brb.. gotta get kids on dinner |
| 00:58.25 | BenUrban | spldart: sounds messy |
| 00:58.37 | BenUrban | maybe you shold get them eating dinner instead |
| 00:58.47 | spldart | messy? That's a team of tanks hunting 'YOU' |
| 00:59.14 | BenUrban | lol |
| 00:59.21 | BenUrban | we've offended him :P |
| 00:59.59 | RichardRauch | Probably that business about byting me. Not even warming up with a nybble or such. |
| 01:00.06 | BenUrban | heh |
| 01:00.26 | spldart | k |
| 01:00.38 | spldart | woah |
| 01:01.30 | spldart | Two of the kids are in the middle of a big battle with 'Freeza' in the DB GT vid game and need to get to a save point LOL |
| 01:01.42 | BenUrban | heh |
| 01:01.47 | BenUrban | let them save |
| 01:01.51 | spldart | I am |
| 01:01.58 | spldart | It's just funny |
| 01:02.00 | BenUrban | or they will hate you for the rest of their lives |
| 01:02.04 | spldart | LMAO |
| 01:02.16 | spldart | They will anyway... I'm a parent... I'm evil |
| 01:02.21 | RichardRauch | Remind them that books don't have "save points". Nor does PBS. Nor do swings or ... |
| 01:02.22 | BenUrban | s/will/do/ |
| 01:02.26 | BenUrban | lol |
| 01:02.32 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:02.32 | BenUrban | nor does bzflag |
| 01:02.33 | spldart | well |
| 01:02.38 | spldart | the pool doesn't either |
| 01:02.45 | BenUrban | sure it does |
| 01:02.48 | BenUrban | if you're drowning... |
| 01:02.54 | BenUrban | you need to get to a save point |
| 01:02.57 | BenUrban | or else |
| 01:03.01 | RichardRauch | But he might have to give up his computer to them to let them play bzflag. And they might steal it from him when he's old... |
| 01:03.02 | spldart | I hate it when my tank gets stuck in the pool |
| 01:03.09 | RichardRauch | No, I think you don't want to get them started on bzflag. |
| 01:03.11 | spldart | LMAO |
| 01:03.15 | BenUrban | LMAO |
| 01:03.20 | spldart | They play my server and spiralzone |
| 01:03.30 | BenUrban | which one's yours? |
| 01:03.48 | spldart | Mine is the one with LouMan's TimeTrials map |
| 01:03.56 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 01:04.00 | BenUrban | don't recognize the name |
| 01:04.03 | spldart | I have a decent lan with 8 machines |
| 01:04.24 | BenUrban | wait a sec...you have LOCALS playing against internet players? |
| 01:04.30 | BenUrban | that's immoral |
| 01:04.35 | BenUrban | lol |
| 01:04.47 | spldart | heh |
| 01:05.01 | spldart | ~bzquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 01:05.25 | spldart | Go easy on that stuff or you wont be able to grip the controls of your tanks |
| 01:06.26 | BenUrban | lmao |
| 01:06.42 | BenUrban | s/wisely/sagely/ |
| 01:06.55 | RichardRauch | I may have found the music that I'm looking for...maybe. |
| 01:07.03 | spldart | ~query spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 01:07.10 | spldart | grr |
| 01:07.20 | spldart | what am I doin wrong :( |
| 01:07.52 | BenUrban | uhh |
| 01:08.02 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 01:08.04 | BenUrban | no clue |
| 01:08.06 | BenUrban | ~help |
| 01:08.17 | BenUrban | oh thank god he replied in a pm |
| 01:08.21 | BenUrban | heh, forgot |
| 01:08.44 | spldart | doh |
| 01:08.49 | spldart | I'm not showing public right now |
| 01:08.56 | BenUrban | ID 10 T |
| 01:09.56 | spldart | que? |
| 01:10.06 | spldart | I think I'm going to restart my server |
| 01:10.15 | spldart | It's been on for I don't know how long |
| 01:12.24 | RichardRauch | I like that racetrack map. (^& |
| 01:12.54 | spldart | That's why I've run it so long... It's like Mario Kart crossed with BZFlag |
| 01:12.59 | RichardRauch | Your whole system, or just the bzfs process? |
| 01:13.04 | spldart | Ok.. Debian restarting |
| 01:13.11 | RichardRauch | Whole OS? |
| 01:13.18 | RichardRauch | Uptime over 1 year? |
| 01:13.24 | spldart | I have a linux box to host my BZ, Apache, Samba etc |
| 01:13.30 | spldart | and I'm restarting everything |
| 01:13.33 | spldart | OS |
| 01:13.41 | RichardRauch | Uptime over 1 year? (^& |
| 01:13.42 | spldart | I get lotsa surges and stuff here so ... yeah |
| 01:13.43 | spldart | No |
| 01:13.56 | spldart | My servers don't survive for a year straight |
| 01:13.57 | RichardRauch | My workstation has only been up 35 days. |
| 01:14.08 | spldart | Lighting usually gets nuked by lighting once a year or less |
| 01:14.16 | spldart | ooops |
| 01:14.19 | BenUrban | lol |
| 01:14.24 | RichardRauch | Heh, I guess I took everything in my 'net down due to a major thundstorm/power-outage abuot a month ago. |
| 01:14.24 | spldart | server get's nuked by lightining |
| 01:14.26 | spldart | hehehe |
| 01:14.32 | Aribeth | get a good ups |
| 01:14.36 | spldart | I did |
| 01:14.39 | spldart | It got vaporized |
| 01:14.41 | spldart | twice |
| 01:14.46 | Aribeth | eek |
| 01:14.51 | RichardRauch | There's no such thing as perfect protection against lightning. |
| 01:14.53 | spldart | cyber power and hewlett packard |
| 01:15.02 | spldart | Not when you get hit more directly |
| 01:15.02 | BenUrban | so it got vaporized, liquefied, frozen, and then vaporized again? |
| 01:15.03 | RichardRauch | Except having lots of neighbors between you and the strike. (^& |
| 01:15.10 | Aribeth | true |
| 01:15.31 | spldart | last strike came off the back of the house |
| 01:15.33 | RichardRauch | But at least you had insurance coverage from the UPS/surge suppressor, yes? Or did they weasel out of that? |
| 01:15.35 | spldart | smoke came from the server |
| 01:15.40 | RichardRauch | Heh. |
| 01:15.57 | spldart | insurance deductable made it not worth while |
| 01:16.13 | RichardRauch | I've lost one modem to lighing. That's after running a dial-up BBS for some 5 years, and being online far too much. |
| 01:16.16 | spldart | I usually disconnect everything but the junky server |
| 01:16.19 | RichardRauch | (nod) |
| 01:16.39 | RichardRauch | I lost the modem when a strike hit *very* close to the house. The modem was directly on the phone line. |
| 01:17.00 | RichardRauch | It was a USR modem, so they (USR) replaced the modem with few questions asked. Cool company. |
| 01:17.13 | Aribeth | lightning will take the shortest path to ground |
| 01:17.17 | RichardRauch | Lighing, not lying. |
| 01:17.21 | BenUrban | oh sorry |
| 01:17.27 | BenUrban | ~dict lighing |
| 01:17.29 | RichardRauch | Lighing is like sighing. Only more prone to getting you lost. |
| 01:17.35 | BenUrban | lmao |
| 01:17.35 | Aribeth | sometimes your computer is the shortest path |
| 01:17.56 | BenUrban | s/shortest path/path of least resistance/ |
| 01:18.05 | Aribeth | yes |
| 01:18.16 | RichardRauch | "An expensive part will blow out in order to prectect a 5 cent fuse". |
| 01:18.20 | BenUrban | lmao |
| 01:18.27 | spldart | I had a streamer come off the back of the house where the cable line came in |
| 01:18.30 | RichardRauch | Protect, even. |
| 01:18.35 | spldart | left some cool damage to the server |
| 01:18.59 | RichardRauch | I don't know if "cool" is an adjective I'd use for that...but hey, it's your system. (^& |
| 01:19.15 | Aribeth | tree trimmers cut a power line 2 years ago. the surge fried my computer |
| 01:19.24 | Aribeth | melted the chips |
| 01:19.33 | RichardRauch | Chips don't melt. |
| 01:19.38 | BenUrban | they do |
| 01:19.39 | Aribeth | these did |
| 01:19.42 | BenUrban | if you heat them enough |
| 01:19.42 | RichardRauch | They get soggy if you leave them in guacamole too long. |
| 01:19.47 | BenUrban | LMFAO |
| 01:19.56 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 01:20.29 | Aribeth | it cost $1000.00 to rebuild the computer |
| 01:20.31 | RichardRauch | What happened to the tree trimmers, Aribeth? |
| 01:20.34 | BenUrban | oh wow it works even better now that i realize you were talking about potato chips |
| 01:20.46 | spldart | ok.... |
| 01:20.47 | Aribeth | they almost got sued |
| 01:20.50 | RichardRauch | Potato ch----oh, yeah. RIght. |
| 01:21.01 | spldart | ~query spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 01:22.02 | spldart | grrrrrrr |
| 01:22.05 | Aribeth | there is plenty of lightning here |
| 01:22.38 | Aribeth | one bolt was right over my house |
| 01:22.45 | spldart | mmMMMmm quacomole |
| 01:22.57 | spldart | now I want some 'Casa O'le' |
| 01:25.53 | spldart | ok reboot and it works fine |
| 01:26.05 | BenUrban | prove it |
| 01:26.40 | spldart | ~query spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 01:26.50 | BenUrban | haha |
| 01:27.23 | spldart | ibot's problem not mien |
| 01:27.26 | spldart | http://my.bzflag.org/serverlist.php I'm listed |
| 01:27.30 | spldart | spldart |
| 01:27.42 | spldart | what is the other command... |
| 01:27.52 | spldart | ~dns spldart.bakadigital.com |
| 01:28.12 | spldart | oh sure.. now your here ibot |
| 01:29.15 | Aribeth | ~query bzflag.sleepycows.us:5157 |
| 01:29.31 | spldart | nope |
| 01:29.34 | spldart | unlisted again |
| 01:29.36 | spldart | wtf |
| 01:29.56 | spldart | I are teh confused |
| 01:29.58 | Aribeth | !query bzflag.sleepycows.us:5157 |
| 01:30.10 | spldart | I don't get it :( |
| 01:30.26 | Aribeth | somethin amiss here |
| 01:30.50 | spldart | ok... I found me on the list again... |
| 01:30.57 | spldart | but something is amiss in here |
| 01:31.06 | spldart | I'm outta astroglide 8-O |
| 01:31.14 | spldart | that and the query doesn't work |
| 01:33.55 | RichardRauch | ~dns socrates.olib.org |
| 01:34.06 | spldart | sorry RR.. I was getting a snakc |
| 01:34.08 | spldart | snack |
| 01:34.16 | RichardRauch | (^& |
| 01:34.26 | spldart | ~query spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 01:34.47 | Aribeth | [ |
| 01:35.08 | RichardRauch | ] |
| 01:35.34 | spldart | { |
| 01:36.25 | RichardRauch | while true; do; echo '}])>'; done |
| 01:36.27 | Aribeth | dropped dip on my keyboard |
| 01:36.32 | spldart | btw.. the track is just for fun and goes along with the whole race theme... But I wouldn't presume to speak to much for LouMan |
| 01:36.41 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:37.06 | Aribeth | =]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]][[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]'[[[[];[[[[[[[[[[pp[[[[[ppppppppppppp;'[;plo;l;ll0pp-p[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ |
| 01:37.16 | spldart | eeeek |
| 01:37.21 | Aribeth | LMAO |
| 01:37.41 | Aribeth | it got down into the keys |
| 01:38.00 | RichardRauch | We won't ask what you were doing rubbing dip into your keyboard. |
| 01:38.11 | Aribeth | lol |
| 01:38.12 | spldart | 8-D |
| 01:39.02 | Aribeth | wait til it happens to you. :) |
| 01:39.30 | RichardRauch | Ah, who says that it hasn't? Perhaps I am just discreet? |
| 01:39.41 | Aribeth | lol |
| 01:40.02 | spldart | mmMMMmmm discreet pleasures |
| 01:40.17 | RichardRauch | Or, getting back to digital things, discrete pleasures. |
| 01:41.18 | spldart | mmMMmm digital |
| 01:44.32 | RichardRauch | ...mmmmmm, donuts. |
| 01:45.16 | spldart | mmmMMmmm beeer |
| 01:46.03 | RichardRauch | Beer? Did someone say beer? |
| 01:46.09 | RichardRauch | Is it BeerPerson? |
| 01:46.33 | spldart | I like Mickey |
| 01:46.35 | spldart | Mickeys |
| 01:46.49 | spldart | 40oz in my lap and it's freezing my bal....well |
| 01:46.55 | spldart | Ease E pwnts me |
| 01:48.57 | RichardRauch | Hm. "Caped Phantom of Booze" logged onto my server earlier today. I feel special. |
| 01:49.07 | spldart | wowl...You are |
| 01:49.32 | spldart | I don't think I've ever seen that name on mine |
| 01:49.49 | RichardRauch | (bingles proudly) |
| 01:51.06 | RichardRauch | Hm. Did someone try to hack my server, I wonder? |
| 01:51.10 | RichardRauch | List server send failed: Broken pipe |
| 01:51.15 | shorty114 | haha |
| 01:51.44 | shorty114 | </remoteHumor> |
| 01:52.44 | Aribeth | i've seen some broken pipe errors as well |
| 01:52.54 | Aribeth | hi Shorty114 |
| 01:53.03 | RichardRauch | Any idea what theymean? |
| 01:53.19 | shorty114 | hola Aribeth |
| 01:53.31 | shorty114 | lol @ spldart |
| 01:53.36 | spldart | I just get ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 01:53.41 | Aribeth | how are things shorty? long time no see |
| 01:53.47 | RichardRauch | Oh, I get those, too... |
| 01:54.11 | shorty114 | Aribeth, pretty good, just working on my overhauled site... |
| 01:54.21 | shorty114 | and loving wordpress more and more every second |
| 01:54.35 | Aribeth | ahh cool. wordpress? |
| 01:54.59 | shorty114 | yeah |
| 01:55.01 | shorty114 | http://shorty114.net/ |
| 01:55.52 | Aribeth | looking good |
| 01:56.11 | shorty114 | thx |
| 01:56.22 | Aribeth | im finaly getting setup here |
| 01:56.26 | shorty114 | cool |
| 01:56.30 | shorty114 | sleepycows.us? |
| 01:56.40 | shorty114 | err .org |
| 01:56.43 | Aribeth | i moved across the country |
| 01:57.01 | Aribeth | been back online for 1 week |
| 01:57.05 | shorty114 | ah |
| 01:57.06 | shorty114 | heh |
| 01:57.17 | Aribeth | moved from CA to GA |
| 01:57.27 | shorty114 | aww now you aren't a west coastie anymore :) |
| 01:57.35 | Aribeth | nope |
| 01:57.56 | Aribeth | it was a horable move too |
| 01:58.42 | RichardRauch | But you're near the west coast of Florida... |
| 01:58.54 | RichardRauch | Or at least, nearer than you were... |
| 01:59.24 | Aribeth | nope, closer to TN |
| 02:00.08 | Aribeth | Chattanoga is 3 hours away |
| 02:00.11 | RichardRauch | Humor me. (^& |
| 02:00.16 | Aribeth | why? |
| 02:00.20 | Aribeth | :) |
| 02:00.22 | shorty114 | Aribeth, what software are you using for sleepycows.org ? |
| 02:00.23 | RichardRauch | Kansas City is about 12 hours away from where I am. |
| 02:00.48 | shorty114 | hmm nvm |
| 02:00.50 | Aribeth | shorty, not sure. tegan redid the web site |
| 02:01.00 | RichardRauch | Why? Because as evil pumpkins go, I'm a pretty good guy. |
| 02:01.16 | Aribeth | lol |
| 02:02.05 | Aribeth | well, im somewhere around the Atlanta metro sprawl |
| 02:02.54 | RichardRauch | I like the cow map, but I can't expand the thumbnail... |
| 02:03.07 | Aribeth | Giza? |
| 02:03.37 | Aribeth | cow map? |
| 02:03.57 | orange | Aribeth, I drove through Chattanooga tonight on the way home from Ohio |
| 02:04.11 | Aribeth | ahh, hi orange |
| 02:04.14 | RichardRauch | Cow map. Upper right. |
| 02:04.14 | spldart | dpm |
| 02:04.50 | spldart | don't mind me... I'm just picking out and eating the chunks of meat in my leftover crock pot stew :) |
| 02:04.50 | RichardRauch | Okay, a steer map, maybe. |
| 02:05.10 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 02:05.21 | Aribeth | which site? |
| 02:05.28 | RichardRauch | sleepycows. |
| 02:05.39 | Aribeth | which page? |
| 02:05.47 | RichardRauch | http://www.sleepycows.org/ |
| 02:05.56 | RichardRauch | Top right. |
| 02:06.49 | Aribeth | ohhh, its just an image i used. not setup to enlarge it |
| 02:07.03 | RichardRauch | Can we play the map? (^& |
| 02:07.15 | Aribeth | ROFLMAO! |
| 02:07.51 | RichardRauch | Somehow, I get the feeling that we can't. |
| 02:08.09 | Aribeth | no, i have no map with cows in it |
| 02:08.40 | RichardRauch | Hm... |
| 02:08.48 | spldart | or sleepy cows for that matter |
| 02:09.25 | Aribeth | how about some iluminating bovines instead? |
| 02:09.29 | RichardRauch | Probably just as well. You've heard of cow-tipping? |
| 02:09.39 | Aribeth | lol |
| 02:09.45 | Aribeth | who hasnt |
| 02:09.47 | RichardRauch | (I just don't see why one should give gratuities to cows...) |
| 02:09.57 | spldart | 8-O |
| 02:10.04 | Aribeth | ROFLMAO! |
| 02:10.12 | Aribeth | Mooooo! |
| 02:10.38 | RichardRauch | Okay, I think that I found the music that I needed. I think. |
| 02:10.40 | RichardRauch | Maybe. |
| 02:11.14 | spldart | I want Blackalicious - Reanimation |
| 02:11.55 | RichardRauch | I'm sorry. This will be The Benedictine Monks of Santo domingo De Silos performing Victimae Paschali Laudes. |
| 02:12.08 | spldart | In fugue? |
| 02:12.33 | RichardRauch | It's almost the same as the Blackaliscious Reanimation request, though, if you burst your eardrums. |
| 02:12.41 | spldart | lol |
| 02:12.46 | RichardRauch | No, in Spain. |
| 02:13.26 | Grumbler | 07 |
| 02:13.28 | RichardRauch | Which one? |
| 02:13.41 | Aribeth | Eat a Peach |
| 02:14.16 | Aribeth | Mountain Jam |
| 02:14.33 | RichardRauch | Wild Mountain Honey, from the Steve Miller Band. |
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| 02:21.15 | Aribeth | nhi |
| 02:29.46 | menotume | YAY, Alman Bros |
| 02:40.43 | Aribeth | ahhhh, Santana |
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| 02:52.13 | spldart | wooohooo |
| 02:53.56 | spldart | My server is now hosting LegoLand by LouMan with Blue vs Purple CTF 3v3. |
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| 03:52.19 | Ninja | ~bzfquery |
| 03:52.27 | Ninja | is that how you do it? |
| 03:53.06 | Ninja | `bzfquery 68.2.96.2:5154 |
| 03:53.14 | Ninja | ~bzfquery 68.2.96.2:5154 |
| 03:54.18 | Ninja | i have a question |
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| 03:56.28 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 03:56.44 | spldart | Busiest I've been in a while |
| 03:57.51 | BenUrban | bastard |
| 03:57.57 | spldart | 8-O |
| 03:57.59 | BenUrban | you just pulled me away from playing |
| 03:58.05 | spldart | me? |
| 03:58.07 | BenUrban | by triggering my hilight |
| 03:58.09 | BenUrban | lol |
| 03:58.11 | spldart | LOL |
| 03:58.26 | BenUrban | never seen that hapen before :P |
| 03:58.59 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:01.06 | spldart | Night all |
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| 05:15.59 | Grumbler | later people |
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| 08:04.36 | creeperz | oh wow |
| 08:04.42 | creeperz | my friend gave me his old steam account |
| 08:04.51 | creeperz | half life is da shizzle :-P |
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| 10:27.48 | LePoulpe303 | hi all |
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| 11:03.01 | KTL | i am not sure, but i think this is a bug. |
| 11:03.34 | KTL | A laser or a thief beam... it's path |
| 11:03.45 | KTL | i expect it to go forwards in all times |
| 11:04.00 | KTL | it does if you stand still, but not if you turn quickly |
| 11:04.25 | KTL | i allways thought i did not see it well but i start doubting that |
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| 11:06.55 | KTL | mmm the direction of the laser is indeed not the one of the tank if it turns fast |
| 11:07.18 | KTL | the direction the laser uses is too old |
| 11:09.34 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 11:09.38 | fabianne | hmmm |
| 11:10.08 | jpa_ | i think the laser is fired before the next frame is drawn.. so it might be 1 frame old |
| 11:10.34 | KTL | so the angle depends on the frame rate ? |
| 11:10.58 | jpa_ | i'm not sure.. shall test it |
| 11:11.24 | KTL | maybe it should try to correct it, by using the turning speed and predicting the wished angle |
| 11:14.06 | jpa_ | i don't notice much error.. |
| 11:14.10 | jpa_ | box.kapsi.fi:50141 |
| 11:19.18 | jpa_ | ah, when jumping |
| 11:19.31 | jpa_ | it is not the direction, just the origin of the beam |
| 11:19.37 | jpa_ | minor problem would i say |
| 11:20.17 | KTL | for me it is the angle, the current objective is not taken out by the laser while turning in flight |
| 11:20.55 | KTL | the player sees an objective and hits something he had as objective half a second earlier |
| 11:22.06 | jpa_ | actually, i think he hits exactly what he is targeting at |
| 11:23.04 | KTL | i have the opposite feeling, mmm experimenting again |
| 11:25.47 | KTL | mmm it is with every type of shot, with laser it is just more clear because it is instantaneous |
| 11:28.05 | KTL | i watch the little box in the middle of the screen, that's my point of reference |
| 11:43.58 | KTL | the effect is much less on the ground, it is in flight that it happens |
| 11:49.47 | KTL | mmm i checked more on the displacement with highspeed, passing a pyramid in air and triing to shoot it with the rectangle, the displacement was huge |
| 11:50.08 | KTL | (to shoot it perpendicular to my flight path) |
| 11:53.17 | KTL | (it is more obvious with thief,) |
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| 12:58.07 | srineer|laptop | can someone point me two a list of bzfs.conf commands |
| 12:59.20 | BearPerson | on linux, a good place to start is "man bzfs" |
| 12:59.36 | BearPerson | I think the commands in the .conf are just like you would set them on the command line |
| 12:59.58 | srineer|laptop | thanks |
| 13:00.29 | BearPerson | comment lines starting with # are ignored |
| 13:00.46 | BearPerson | not sure if you're allowed to mix comments and options on a single line |
| 13:00.52 | srineer|laptop | i have a server up and running |
| 13:01.07 | srineer|laptop | i was just looking for a full list of options |
| 13:01.32 | BearPerson | ah |
| 13:01.51 | BearPerson | maybe the wiki on www.bzflag.org/Wiki I think may help too |
| 13:02.10 | srineer|laptop | i been looking there |
| 13:02.18 | srineer|laptop | but could not find a list |
| 13:03.10 | srineer|laptop | for example: i want to increase the speed of bullets |
| 13:03.19 | BearPerson | ah |
| 13:03.20 | srineer|laptop | can find where to do that |
| 13:03.30 | BearPerson | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/ServerVariables |
| 13:03.47 | BearPerson | -set _shotSpeed 200 |
| 13:03.48 | Birdie | !weather antwerp, Belgium |
| 13:03.50 | BearPerson | for double speed |
| 13:03.58 | Birdie | why does guu always sleep :/ |
| 13:05.50 | srineer|laptop | thank you |
| 13:06.23 | BearPerson | anytime :) |
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| 14:23.38 | spldart | morning |
| 14:28.09 | sgk284 | the last time i was in boston was during the big dig... bad first impression but i intend to revisit sometime :) |
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| 14:36.05 | spldart | stupid network cable |
| 14:36.35 | brlcad | this is a nice lil conference |
| 14:36.41 | meacan | spam at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3604&highlight= |
| 14:37.28 | Birdie | lol and the one that went away to study..is saying that:) |
| 14:37.45 | meacan | :) |
| 14:38.14 | spldart | woah |
| 14:38.54 | meacan | im really away now.. really. exam-topic is sooo interesting. really. yep. Im all focused. Not surfing, nope. nah nah. .. |
| 14:39.08 | jolie | lol* |
| 14:39.11 | Birdie | i have my book before me.. |
| 14:39.17 | jolie | and irc provs it meacan |
| 14:39.47 | meacan | :) |
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| 14:44.12 | menotume | BearPerson: ping |
| 14:44.25 | jolie | he isnt home |
| 14:44.27 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (ScoreboardRenderer.cxx ScoreboardRenderer.h playing.cxx): |
| 14:44.28 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: Change roam 'driving with winner' logic to drive with TK/TK Ratio leader |
| 14:44.28 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: if selected in scoreboard sort. |
| 14:45.40 | menotume | dang, where IS that 'new topic' button anyway ? |
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| 14:47.07 | jolie | meno meno |
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| 15:19.06 | Grumbler | grumble, grumble, power glitches, grumble, grumble |
| 15:19.15 | jolie | hmrr |
| 15:19.48 | TheRedBaron | grumble, grumble, hurricanes, tropical storms, grumble, grumble.... |
| 15:21.32 | jpa_ | grumble grumble grumble hot hot hot grumble grumble |
| 15:21.42 | Thumper_ | jpa how hot |
| 15:22.00 | jpa_ | 20.8°C |
| 15:22.28 | jpa_ | on the north side.. where sun shines, it is warmer |
| 15:22.31 | Thumper_ | um... come on over... on the weekend it was 33C and 80% humidity |
| 15:22.32 | brlcad | Grumbler: how's it holding up down there? |
| 15:22.49 | TheRedBaron | grumble, grumble, jury duty grumble grumble |
| 15:23.16 | Grumbler | brlcad< thank god for the breeze |
| 15:23.28 | brlcad | it's freaking hot up here |
| 15:23.46 | Grumbler | heh |
| 15:23.52 | brlcad | just started raining, so hopefully it'll finally drop 20 degrees like has been speculated |
| 15:25.37 | Grumbler | heh, they said we wont see the peak until 3-4 this afternoon..... |
| 15:27.28 | Grumbler | ah well.....its only June.....wait till July and August |
| 15:29.01 | TheRedBaron | ~weather KTLH |
| 15:29.59 | jpa_ | ~weather EFTU |
| 15:31.41 | TheRedBaron | jpa_, 68F is hot? |
| 15:32.18 | Birdie | 20C isnt hot:) |
| 15:32.23 | Birdie | 30C is hot.. |
| 15:32.24 | jpa_ | 20C is hot! |
| 15:32.44 | jpa_ | well, yesterday it was 30C in some parts of finland |
| 15:32.53 | Birdie | brr:) |
| 15:33.50 | TheRedBaron | 30c, now you are starting to talk hot.. |
| 15:34.28 | Birdie | last year in greece 40:( |
| 15:34.42 | Birdie | i jumped in the pool went out and i was freezing.. |
| 15:34.47 | Birdie | day after i had a cold.. |
| 15:34.53 | Birdie | when 40C.. |
| 15:36.44 | Grumbler | ~weather knak |
| 15:37.16 | Grumbler | gotta love that heat index |
| 15:38.07 | spldart | ~weather ksgr |
| 15:38.58 | TheRedBaron | that is a nice heat index... |
| 15:39.24 | Thumper_ | ~weather CYYZ |
| 15:39.38 | Thumper_ | it's nice an cool today - we're turning off the airconditioning and opening the windows for the breeze :) |
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| 15:43.50 | jpa_ | Thumper_: you have airconditioning? :S |
| 15:47.02 | Thumper_ | yes... :) |
| 15:47.07 | Thumper_ | it's been on for a week |
| 15:47.09 | Thumper_ | :-P |
| 15:47.11 | Grumbler | jpa_< thats so they can keep the hockey ice as the right temperature, they dont actually use it |
| 15:47.25 | Thumper_ | lol |
| 15:48.00 | Grumbler | ...i mean, doesnt everybody in canada have a sheet of ice in their living room? :) |
| 15:48.20 | ruskie | lol |
| 15:49.44 | Grumbler | ....as opposed to finland, where the sheet of ice IS the living room. :) |
| 15:49.55 | ruskie | :)) |
| 15:49.56 | jpa_ | grr |
| 15:50.46 | Grumbler | sry jpa_ , it was too tempting. |
| 15:50.57 | jpa_ | if i had airconditioning, i would put one room to -1°C and keep penguins there |
| 15:51.05 | TheRedBaron | don't be sry... he deserves it... |
| 15:51.12 | TheRedBaron | evil jpa... |
| 15:51.36 | jpa_ | i've been quite nice lately |
| 15:51.54 | Grumbler | true, only a couple veins of evil |
| 15:52.29 | Grumbler | nothing a good beating from the big sister wouldnt cure |
| 15:52.34 | TheRedBaron | really? |
| 15:52.45 | Grumbler | yep |
| 15:52.45 | TheRedBaron | jpa_ nice? |
| 15:52.53 | Grumbler | scary isnt it |
| 15:53.07 | TheRedBaron | no wonder his living room is a big sheet of ice... hell froze over :) |
| 15:53.17 | jpa_ | Grumbler: umm.. beating from the big sister? |
| 15:53.48 | Grumbler | TheRedBaron< nice touch |
| 15:54.05 | jpa_ | i don't like you! |
| 15:54.20 | TheRedBaron | sorry, i think i got infected with your evilness, you stole my niceness... |
| 15:54.50 | Grumbler | heh |
| 15:55.03 | Grumbler | when was TheRedBaron ever nice? |
| 15:55.12 | Grumbler | mouse cheats, etc |
| 15:55.37 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 15:56.23 | TheRedBaron | i was nice... until some one messed up my radar... |
| 15:56.32 | ruskie | messed up? |
| 15:56.59 | BearPerson | menotume, pong |
| 15:57.18 | TheRedBaron | not a convincing look... |
| 15:57.33 | ruskie | lol |
| 15:58.00 | TheRedBaron | hmmm halo... |
| 15:59.13 | spldart | LOL |
| 16:01.12 | jpa_ | mmm..tasty |
| 16:04.02 | TheRedBaron | *hands |
| 16:04.06 | jpa_ | no need |
| 16:04.10 | jpa_ | thx anyway |
| 16:04.33 | TheRedBaron | See! proof i'm nice... |
| 16:04.39 | ruskie | lol |
| 16:05.09 | Grumbler | one drop of water in a desert does not make an ocean |
| 16:05.34 | BearPerson | neither will one drop of an H-bomb |
| 16:05.39 | BearPerson | or will it? |
| 16:05.51 | BearPerson | s/will/would/ |
| 16:06.09 | BearPerson | or does... or whatever |
| 16:06.12 | ruskie | lol |
| 16:06.28 | TheRedBaron | bah, grumbler has to ruin it with his soliloquisms.. |
| 16:07.17 | jpa_ | Grumbler: no, you need to add some salt, too |
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| 16:08.36 | spldart | If a salty drop of water landed in the desert while no one was around would it make a sound? |
| 16:09.27 | TheRedBaron | Go Long! |
| 16:10.54 | ruskie | spldart, yeah.... whoooossshhhhh |
| 16:10.59 | spldart | heh |
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| 16:15.00 | giskard | hi all :) |
| 16:15.02 | Thumper_ | ~bzfrag salt dispenser in flight on the way to Grumbler |
| 16:15.04 | ibot | ACTION makes salt dispenser in flight on the way to Grumbler feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 16:15.14 | Thumper_ | snow! |
| 16:15.18 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 16:15.25 | TheRedBaron | my salt! |
| 16:15.26 | Thumper_ | oh it's just the salt falling down |
| 16:15.48 | jpa_ | i have to confess.. |
| 16:15.56 | jpa_ | i'm really the snake from the paradise |
| 16:15.57 | giskard | bzflag cannot connot use esound? |
| 16:17.03 | bryjen | bzflag can use SDL which can use esd. the sounds may be delayed though |
| 16:17.20 | giskard | bryjen, how? |
| 16:17.31 | TheRedBaron | jpa_, !!! |
| 16:17.50 | ruskie | giskard, it's a sdlenvvar you have to set |
| 16:17.50 | jpa_ | i'm sorry! |
| 16:18.14 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/ (src/bzflag/ScoreboardRenderer.cxx ChangeLog): Adjusting scores and labels |
| 16:18.26 | Tupone | bzflag option->audio->driver name . Put there esd press return and restart bzflag |
| 16:18.36 | giskard | Tupone, i tried |
| 16:18.40 | giskard | but.. |
| 16:19.23 | giskard | ruskie, i hate you...you kill me to much often ;P |
| 16:19.36 | ruskie | giskard, erm I dO? |
| 16:20.35 | giskard | Tupone, probably i need libsdl1.2debian-esd :) |
| 16:20.50 | ruskie | giskard, "SDL_AUDIODRIVER=esd SDL_PATH_DSP=host:port bzflag" |
| 16:20.57 | Tupone | not sure |
| 16:20.59 | ruskie | that one should work... |
| 16:21.36 | Tupone | ruskie, that parameters are also set by bzflag internally. If you set both, I think bzflag win |
| 16:23.51 | giskard | i have installed the package and all seems work :) |
| 16:24.01 | Tupone | delayed I guess |
| 16:24.22 | Tupone | google says 1 sec |
| 16:24.38 | ruskie | well depends on the box I guess |
| 16:25.10 | ruskie | I did want to link bzfag to my second sound card using alsa but the sound was accelerated and cut short all the time... |
| 16:26.00 | Tupone | with alsa, without any sound daemon? |
| 16:26.05 | giskard | 2s |
| 16:26.09 | ruskie | Tupone, yup |
| 16:26.20 | Tupone | any idea why ? |
| 16:26.21 | ruskie | I don't like sound daemons |
| 16:26.23 | ruskie | no clue |
| 16:26.33 | ruskie | with the primary sound card it works without a prob |
| 16:26.36 | ruskie | also alsa |
| 16:26.42 | ruskie | with the secondary I get such behaviour |
| 16:27.03 | Tupone | I have to test here, I have 2 sound board. One is disabled though |
| 16:27.18 | ruskie | I get the same behaviour if I use alsas dmix feature |
| 16:27.37 | Tupone | I wonder why SDL does not support jack |
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| 16:29.01 | CBG | bzbb admins: spam again: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3604 |
| 16:31.17 | _Manu_ | ruskie, you know i'm using alsa and works fine, also can play music in the background |
| 16:32.27 | spldart | Freakan spammers >8-( |
| 16:32.44 | _Manu_ | ruskie, and about sound accelerated usually is because using a wrong frecuency 40/44/48 khz |
| 16:33.31 | ruskie | _Manu_, I have no special configs for sound |
| 16:34.08 | _Manu_ | ruskie, perhaps you must change the default config |
| 16:34.35 | ruskie | and furthermore why would it only show up in bzflag and not in anything else ran of it? |
| 16:35.06 | giskard | bye |
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| 16:35.46 | _Manu_ | i remember when alsa was at early stages it happened with a few sound cards |
| 16:35.59 | _Manu_ | some programs working fine.. and others accelerated |
| 16:36.05 | ruskie | well I used oss until alsa came to be in the kernel |
| 16:36.29 | _Manu_ | like most of users :) |
| 16:37.19 | _Manu_ | my config for bzflag is SDL and using alsa |
| 16:37.44 | _Manu_ | and works ok |
| 16:38.04 | _Manu_ | i have no oss emulation nor other thing |
| 16:38.06 | _Manu_ | only alsa |
| 16:38.41 | bryjen | yucky unicode |
| 16:38.53 | ruskie | ? |
| 16:40.07 | bryjen | the forum item CBG pointed to. lots of junk links. deleted. |
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| 16:43.59 | bryjen | Whobay? |
| 16:45.46 | DTRemenak | I dunno how to pronounce it, but we've got a lot of spam from there |
| 16:45.54 | DTRemenak | and no legit users |
| 16:47.20 | DTRemenak | already had three class c's in that range banned, this would have made four. so I just changed to four class b's and killed the whole province. |
| 16:48.00 | DTRemenak | bzflag is probably illegal in china anyway |
| 16:49.43 | Tupone | offensive? they have to learn english before |
| 16:49.55 | bryjen | "...killed the whole province." DTRemenak the Conqueror! ;) |
| 16:50.11 | DTRemenak | Tupone: no, they can post chinese porn links :) |
| 16:50.31 | DTRemenak | well...not anymore |
| 16:50.45 | Tupone | we should support UNICODE :( |
| 16:50.55 | DTRemenak | yes, we should |
| 16:51.07 | _Manu_ | using ascii is limited :( |
| 16:51.21 | _Manu_ | only english speakers can write properly.. |
| 16:51.33 | bryjen | the posting may have been OK, i probly do not have the correct fonts, so it looked like junk |
| 16:51.38 | _Manu_ | in spanish is not the same: ano and año lol |
| 16:51.44 | DTRemenak | bryjen: yeah, it was all in chinese |
| 16:51.55 | DTRemenak | I can't read chinese so I dunno if it said anything |
| 16:52.09 | bryjen | that the entire body was a collection of links was a clue |
| 16:52.23 | jpa_ | i saw just "mp3" etc. common search words |
| 16:52.28 | DTRemenak | the links were not family friendly |
| 16:52.40 | jpa_ | links! i didn't see links! |
| 16:53.25 | DTRemenak | just as well |
| 16:56.37 | spldart | buncha asian chics with implants |
| 16:56.48 | bryjen | see?! see how the evil internet is bringing corrupt western culture into china! ... hrm ... wait, it was _their_ porn onto _our_ site ... |
| 16:57.54 | BearPerson | hmm... corrupt western money to finance _their_ porn ;-) |
| 16:58.25 | BearPerson | http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050614/ap_on_hi_te/china_microsoft |
| 16:58.28 | BearPerson | apropos china |
| 17:08.05 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/configure.ac: AC_CONFIG_FILES is the new way to enumerate config files changed by autoconf |
| 17:17.11 | Grumbler | only banned a province....really..........just remember there are probably 50million people there who will get really PO'ed if they cant access bzflag :) |
| 17:20.47 | Grumbler | just as a note, i played the b7 version last night........i still had what i would consider funky issues.......lag was not correct. bullets were going through people with low lag values, high lag values.....but others would die as normal......as would i. lots of jumping around...jumping as in lag jumps.......but the graphics were cool. |
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| 17:23.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
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| 17:32.29 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: got more spam, I banned the entire province (four class bs). there were already several ips and class c's from that range (221.192-5) in the banlist. |
| 17:32.47 | JeffM2501 | where is' it from? |
| 17:32.55 | JeffM2501 | the land of the rising sun? |
| 17:33.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o jolie] by JeffM2501 |
| 17:33.14 | jolie | ^_^ |
| 17:33.15 | DTRemenak | Hebei Province, China |
| 17:34.07 | jolie | ur just... |
| 17:34.46 | CBG | just.... ? |
| 17:35.06 | jolie | check in #hug-bunny the rest |
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| 17:39.01 | JeffM2501 | why CBG? feeling lonely? |
| 17:39.22 | CBG | JeffM2501: No. I just need a hot date for my schol prom in 2 weeks.. :P |
| 17:41.39 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/configure.ac: Use new AC_LANG commands |
| 17:42.22 | Grumbler | nice work on the ring spawn btw, JeffM2501 |
| 17:42.31 | DTRemenak | Tupone: tell me when you've finished your updates and I'll check everywhere again |
| 17:42.37 | Tupone | ok |
| 17:43.06 | Tupone | doing step by step so we can revert singularly in case something does not work |
| 17:43.07 | menotume | 'Beautify Scores' ? |
| 17:43.09 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, I'm not happy with the last ring |
| 17:43.20 | menotume | changed a '-' to a '~' ? |
| 17:43.24 | Grumbler | the last ring? |
| 17:43.41 | Grumbler | the last one drawn, or your last version? |
| 17:43.51 | JeffM2501 | last one drawn |
| 17:44.03 | JeffM2501 | I need to mod the code a bit so they all fall in |
| 17:44.07 | JeffM2501 | the last one just pops in |
| 17:45.01 | Grumbler | ah, ....i like it because it had that atom model look........ |
| 17:45.10 | JeffM2501 | atom model? |
| 17:45.19 | Grumbler | with electrons flying around |
| 17:45.41 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: raising MaxZ should make them all fall in, right? |
| 17:45.48 | JeffM2501 | valence shels |
| 17:46.00 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, that's part of it |
| 17:46.01 | DTRemenak | 'cause they fall 'till 2.5 * n |
| 17:46.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:46.58 | JeffM2501 | max should proibably go to 15 |
| 17:47.20 | Grumbler | http://www.geocities.com/yummyphysics/atom.html |
| 17:47.23 | DTRemenak | guess there's probably a timing change also, so they don't start fading while they're falling |
| 17:47.38 | JeffM2501 | actualy... it may be ok |
| 17:47.46 | JeffM2501 | try it |
| 17:47.49 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 17:48.53 | menotume | ping _Manu_ |
| 17:49.55 | menotume | _Manu_: I line in changelog 'beautify scores' for changing a couple of '-'s to '~'s? you must be bored |
| 17:50.18 | DTRemenak | if I try to use both DVD drives at once when both hard drives are plugged in the computer turns off :S |
| 17:50.40 | ruskie | DTRemenak, get a more powerfull PSU |
| 17:50.49 | DTRemenak | that's what I said, I believe |
| 17:50.56 | ruskie | :) |
| 17:51.34 | DTRemenak | also have too many y-cables in there :) |
| 17:52.30 | DTRemenak | and the new fx5900 will want another cable and some more juice |
| 17:53.03 | bryjen | lotsa splitters is usually a sign you're going to exceed the design limits |
| 17:53.09 | DTRemenak | yup :) |
| 17:53.33 | DTRemenak | I've got two in there, one between the dvd drives and one between two fans |
| 17:55.01 | DTRemenak | hm, actually I guess it's between the DVD-ROM and the 5-1/4 floppy |
| 17:55.15 | bryjen | eeek! |
| 17:55.21 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 17:55.49 | JeffM2501 | I can recomend a new case |
| 17:55.53 | bryjen | and the last time you used that was? |
| 17:55.56 | JeffM2501 | it's only 70$ |
| 17:56.00 | JeffM2501 | nice beefy power supply |
| 17:56.10 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: cool. got a link? |
| 17:56.19 | DTRemenak | bryjen: uh...november |
| 17:56.29 | DTRemenak | of 2003 |
| 17:56.58 | DTRemenak | er, maybe I used it last summer |
| 17:58.53 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: reader and writer |
| 17:58.59 | Grumbler | ....and who the hell uses floppy drives anymore |
| 17:59.59 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: actually I've never copied a DVD. I copy CD's and burn DVD's for backup. |
| 18:00.09 | DTRemenak | and it would be the MPAA anyway |
| 18:00.29 | bryjen | no, the RIAA wants to know about your _CD_ copying |
| 18:00.29 | JeffM2501 | http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1336697 |
| 18:00.30 | Grumbler | its one of those AA thingies..... |
| 18:00.30 | bryjen | ;) |
| 18:00.32 | JeffM2501 | and it's on sale |
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| 18:01.20 | Grumbler | thought you said it had a power supply |
| 18:01.56 | JeffM2501 | oh wrong link :) |
| 18:02.07 | DTRemenak | he prolly meant http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1336698 |
| 18:02.10 | JeffM2501 | http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1336698 |
| 18:02.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:02.15 | JeffM2501 | that's why it was cheaper :) |
| 18:03.13 | DTRemenak | only 4 4-pin connectors according to one of the comments |
| 18:03.16 | DTRemenak | I need 7 |
| 18:03.34 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 18:03.54 | JeffM2501 | 7 is a lot for a dekstop case |
| 18:04.01 | JeffM2501 | I' guess I'm using Y adapeters |
| 18:04.01 | DTRemenak | 3 hdds, 2 optical, floppy drive, video card |
| 18:04.12 | JeffM2501 | that's about what I have in mine |
| 18:04.14 | JeffM2501 | and 5 fans |
| 18:04.30 | BearPerson | http://www.enermax.com.tw/products_page.php?Tid=1&gon=266&Gid=18&Gid2=46 <<my PSU... |
| 18:04.32 | DTRemenak | yeah, I have all three of my fans running off one connector |
| 18:04.32 | bryjen | your one floppy drive is a 5.25" ? |
| 18:04.55 | JeffM2501 | ditch the flopy |
| 18:04.56 | DTRemenak | bryjen: no, I have both in there. 3-1/2 takes a different connector |
| 18:05.07 | JeffM2501 | youyr probably gonna have to get a server type PS |
| 18:05.10 | bryjen | oh, yeah. the leetle one |
| 18:05.32 | bryjen | is still four pins, no? |
| 18:06.10 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: upper-end desktop psus have enough |
| 18:06.42 | DTRemenak | it's a fairly standard gaming configuration with different components (2 optical, 3 hdd, video and fans) |
| 18:07.05 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: heck yeah :) |
| 18:07.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:07.46 | JeffM2501 | they have those modular PSs |
| 18:07.47 | DTRemenak | most of the people I know have a different set of HDDs though. the big gaming thing is a pair of raptors in raid and a storage drive. |
| 18:07.48 | JeffM2501 | get one of those |
| 18:07.54 | DTRemenak | that would be cool |
| 18:08.00 | JeffM2501 | get an old AT PS just for your drives :) |
| 18:08.03 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 18:08.10 | DTRemenak | need a bigger case for that |
| 18:08.12 | Grumbler | raptors rock |
| 18:08.27 | DTRemenak | raptors are very high $/gb |
| 18:08.35 | Grumbler | scary how fast my computer boots now |
| 18:08.40 | DTRemenak | I like my JBs just fine |
| 18:08.49 | DTRemenak | bryjen: raptors are 10k rpm, but only 70 gb |
| 18:08.55 | Grumbler | 76gb |
| 18:08.58 | Grumbler | :) |
| 18:09.07 | bryjen | heh "only" |
| 18:09.12 | DTRemenak | put them in raid so you get better performance, but still only 152 gb |
| 18:09.23 | bryjen | again with the only |
| 18:09.25 | DTRemenak | so people put a 400gb in as the third drive |
| 18:09.33 | bryjen | yeesh |
| 18:09.46 | DTRemenak | bryjen: I know multiple people with terabyte+ raid arrays |
| 18:10.04 | bryjen | that's a lotta pr0n ;) |
| 18:10.05 | DTRemenak | at least two of them are full |
| 18:10.15 | Grumbler | bryjen< he probably has 50gb used.... |
| 18:10.56 | Grumbler | bryjen< and only knows what he has in a 10 gb section.......so viruses are free to roam ;) |
| 18:10.59 | DTRemenak | bryjen: you can fill up the raptor arrays with just apps and games |
| 18:11.18 | DTRemenak | kotor is 5 gb, for instance |
| 18:11.47 | Grumbler | play that alot to ya? |
| 18:11.51 | DTRemenak | now...I personally don't run that setup |
| 18:12.28 | DTRemenak | I have an 80JB and a 120JB, and a 10-gig SCSI drive because I don't have an active terminator lying around ;) |
| 18:12.47 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, that's the PS you need -> http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A6226341# |
| 18:13.08 | bryjen | JiggjaBytes ? hehe |
| 18:13.57 | DTRemenak | heh. WD for years has sold AA, AB, BB, and JB model drives. JB is 7200 and 8mb cache |
| 18:14.10 | DTRemenak | actually my scsi drive is an AB model |
| 18:16.48 | spldart | 4 WD Caviar 80 gig raid 0 |
| 18:17.54 | Grumbler | ya know if you use RAID FOG you eliminate those hard bugs |
| 18:23.35 | jpa_ | i wouldn't use raid 0.. LVM is much more flexible anyway |
| 18:24.00 | BearPerson | and slower |
| 18:24.02 | spldart | I needed incredible speed |
| 18:24.14 | spldart | and at a reasonable price |
| 18:24.36 | spldart | controller in 64/66 slot too |
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| 18:35.40 | Thumper_ | jpa_: LVM on Raid |
| 18:36.08 | Thumper_ | (it finally works for me :-) ) |
| 18:36.48 | jpa_ | yes, it is nice |
| 18:36.59 | jpa_ | but raid0 under LVM would be of no use :) |
| 18:37.03 | Thumper_ | raid1 |
| 18:37.08 | Thumper_ | and yes :) |
| 18:37.18 | jpa_ | except.. it could speed up a bit.. |
| 18:37.33 | jpa_ | i don't think lvm can stripe |
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| 19:09.49 | jpa_ | huh.. 25°C in my room |
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| 19:13.26 | DTRemenak | 23°C in mine |
| 19:14.59 | bryjen | !covert 24 degC to degF |
| 19:15.00 | guu` | bryjen: I'm sorry, I was listening to AirSupply. |
| 19:15.06 | bryjen | !convert 24 degC to degF |
| 19:15.06 | guu` | bryjen: 75.2 |
| 19:16.16 | Noodleman | it's gotta be at least 80°F in here |
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| 19:27.17 | Grumbler | ~convert C F 85 |
| 19:28.04 | Grumbler | anyhoow......my AC is holding up....20 degree F difference from outside to inside......whoohooo and they said i was mad..... |
| 19:28.25 | Grumbler | ~weather knak |
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| 19:35.29 | displaytor | finnish servers? |
| 19:35.57 | Grumbler | whoa, that was quick |
| 19:36.18 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 19:36.23 | jpa_ | i would have known one :) |
| 19:40.40 | Grumbler | only one |
| 19:43.49 | menotume | BearPerson: obs roam 'with winner' now follows TK leader if that sort option is chosen |
| 19:44.13 | menotume | but, it doesn't follow callsign, for example, if that is the sort option :) |
| 19:44.24 | BearPerson | aww |
| 19:44.27 | menotume | lol |
| 19:44.30 | BearPerson | how about "normalized"? |
| 19:44.35 | menotume | yes |
| 19:44.38 | BearPerson | good |
| 19:44.48 | BearPerson | I guess it's irrelevant to ask for "1vs1" |
| 19:44.54 | BearPerson | at least currently |
| 19:45.11 | _Manu_ | perhaps somebody must change those uglies ratios after the email string... ;) |
| 19:45.25 | BearPerson | they'll be removed as soon as we see it works |
| 19:45.35 | menotume | callsign, team and '1v1' will follow high score, otherwise, it's whatever sort option is chosen |
| 19:45.51 | menotume | ugly ratio ? |
| 19:45.56 | menotume | there's a define |
| 19:46.00 | BearPerson | the [0.32] thing |
| 19:46.10 | _Manu_ | yes.. name, emailstring[x.xx] |
| 19:46.19 | _Manu_ | yes.. namelonger, emailstringlonger[x.xx] |
| 19:46.42 | menotume | ok, manu, you can change it .... #define DEBUG_SHOWRATIOS 0 |
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| 19:57.26 | JeffM2501 | saturos is doing some really good work |
| 19:58.00 | BearPerson | okay, nm then |
| 19:59.16 | Birdie | is this only me or goess bzbb very very slow for the moment? |
| 19:59.38 | DTRemenak | just you |
| 19:59.49 | Birdie | doh |
| 20:00.36 | menotume | hmmm, my client just crashed while 'searching for servers' |
| 20:00.50 | menotume | heh |
| 20:01.10 | menotume | searching for servers - sat there for about a minute, then crashed (segfault) |
| 20:01.45 | DTRemenak | fun |
| 20:02.38 | menotume | there's another problem with server list |
| 20:02.50 | menotume | sometimes i don't get the server that i select from the list |
| 20:03.07 | menotume | noticed it several times over the last couple/few weeks |
| 20:03.18 | Grumbler | ....and how much were you drinking before you started to play> |
| 20:03.24 | menotume | haha |
| 20:03.34 | menotume | you'll believe me when others report it too |
| 20:03.48 | Grumbler | thats what i keep saying |
| 20:03.58 | menotume | (it thought it may have been me) |
| 20:04.06 | menotume | but, now i'm sure there's a problem :) |
| 20:04.15 | Grumbler | so am i |
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| 20:05.15 | Birdie | jeffm2501: you sure you added me? |
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| 20:06.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah I think so |
| 20:06.47 | Birdie | hmm |
| 20:06.53 | _Manu_ | JeffM2501, why there is only 10 users in developers group? :) |
| 20:07.04 | JeffM2501 | because that's all I could remember :) |
| 20:07.12 | _Manu_ | hehe |
| 20:07.15 | Birdie | ah i see it, i have to logout and login again, i use that on auto |
| 20:07.38 | Grumbler | _Manu_< he is trying to keep the undesirables out |
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| 20:26.06 | JeffM2501 | If you're gonna jump, then jump far |
| 20:26.35 | spldart | WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 20:27.18 | JeffM2501 | fly like a sky diver |
| 20:27.24 | JeffM2501 | If you're gonna be a singer |
| 20:27.47 | JeffM2501 | then you better be a rockstar |
| 20:32.45 | JeffM2501 | man is the SW replacement turning out to be a PITA |
| 20:32.46 | _Manu_ | JeffM2501, can't jump, it hurts my knees :( |
| 20:32.59 | JeffM2501 | then don't jump |
| 20:33.05 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 20:33.11 | JeffM2501 | if you are goin to be a driver, better drive a race car |
| 20:33.12 | spldart | Buy a jetpack |
| 20:33.24 | spldart | SW not looking good? |
| 20:33.30 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 20:33.34 | JeffM2501 | haven't had it drawing yet |
| 20:33.38 | JeffM2501 | it's just difrent |
| 20:33.39 | spldart | oh |
| 20:33.42 | JeffM2501 | from the other effects |
| 20:33.56 | JeffM2501 | have to make effects that can be udated via external objects |
| 20:33.59 | JeffM2501 | not a bad thing |
| 20:34.06 | JeffM2501 | just takes more then the other effects did |
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| 20:34.52 | spldart | so all effects can be changed via external objects? |
| 20:35.22 | JeffM2501 | not yet |
| 20:35.27 | spldart | but that is a goal? |
| 20:35.29 | JeffM2501 | right now they are fire and forget |
| 20:35.32 | spldart | ah |
| 20:35.40 | JeffM2501 | sw will need one that can be |
| 20:35.47 | JeffM2501 | since it's a shot |
| 20:35.52 | JeffM2501 | other shots will need em too |
| 20:36.40 | spldart | what prompted all these effects changes, that I do find neat, anywho? |
| 20:37.12 | JeffM2501 | I needed wanted a spawn effect for a new player type |
| 20:37.33 | spldart | oh? |
| 20:37.41 | _Manu_ | the raining tanks thing? :) |
| 20:37.44 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 20:38.00 | _Manu_ | mean spawn in air |
| 20:41.57 | JeffM2501 | and I mean "no" ;) |
| 20:42.15 | JeffM2501 | tha'ts just a spawn pos |
| 20:42.23 | JeffM2501 | not a player type |
| 20:42.57 | _Manu_ | oh... i missed it |
| 20:45.17 | JeffM2501 | :D |
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| 20:49.19 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (acinclude.m4 configure.ac): AC_TRY_LINK is obsolete |
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| 20:53.32 | JeffM2501 | tho when i'm done I'll probably be the most feared and hated deamon-god |
| 20:53.37 | JeffM2501 | I mean developer |
| 20:54.32 | JeffM2501 | you mean mac keyboards? |
| 20:54.54 | jpa_ | no, logitech ones |
| 20:55.03 | jpa_ | that have over-sized delete but no insert |
| 20:56.56 | JeffM2501 | I am used to people fearing an hating me. |
| 20:57.51 | spldart | mmmmMMMMMMMmmmm feared and hated.... |
| 20:57.57 | spldart | maybe even a touch of revile |
| 20:57.59 | JeffM2501 | but it's still my job to protect them |
| 20:59.12 | bryjen | from themselves? |
| 20:59.17 | Grumbler | jpa_, logitech.....hmmm, mine are the microsoft version keyboards like that......and yes it does suck, i thought it was just another microsoft thing |
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| 20:59.38 | JeffM2501 | it's probably some "standard" |
| 20:59.45 | Grumbler | it sucks |
| 20:59.48 | JeffM2501 | mac keyboards don't have one ether |
| 20:59.50 | JeffM2501 | they have "help" |
| 20:59.59 | JeffM2501 | sucks when using VIM |
| 21:00.10 | Grumbler | well, they probably need a key dedicated to that :) |
| 21:00.18 | bryjen | press help and ask it how to delete |
| 21:00.25 | Grumbler | insert |
| 21:00.29 | JeffM2501 | delete is below it |
| 21:00.37 | JeffM2501 | ohh I press "I" insteadad |
| 21:00.42 | bryjen | meh, whatever |
| 21:00.44 | JeffM2501 | but it jus sucks to have to change |
| 21:00.51 | JeffM2501 | between systems |
| 21:01.01 | JeffM2501 | the mac is geting a nice MS keyboard soon :) |
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| 21:01.58 | CBG | bb admins: maybe this breaks the rules, maybe not...: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4148 |
| 21:01.58 | JeffM2501 | how long can nicks be here? |
| 21:02.17 | CBG | (the last post on that topic... its rude at least) |
| 21:03.07 | JeffM2501 | as I suspected he's on his way for the 4th ban |
| 21:03.41 | CBG | Who? experiMENTALfrog? |
| 21:03.47 | JeffM2501 | ja |
| 21:04.02 | CBG | He has had a different nick each time? |
| 21:04.04 | jpa_ | ok.. just about to reply :) |
| 21:04.10 | jpa_ | now i shall be evil and not reply |
| 21:04.20 | JeffM2501 | the post is gone |
| 21:04.38 | bryjen | 16 chars |
| 21:05.11 | TheOriginalSpart | ;) |
| 21:05.36 | CBG | Yep. 16. :) |
| 21:05.44 | JeffM2501 | do you even know what it is? |
| 21:05.51 | CBG | Nope. :P |
| 21:06.06 | JeffM2501 | then I doubt your an orgional :) |
| 21:06.11 | CBG | hehe. |
| 21:06.24 | JpaHasLongNickTo | :/ |
| 21:06.36 | CBG | An Age of Mythology map right? |
| 21:06.38 | meacan | when you connect to irc, the server tells you NICKLEN=16 :) |
| 21:06.47 | CBG | meacan: Not on my client. :P |
| 21:06.50 | JeffM2501 | that would involve reading |
| 21:06.56 | CBG | lol |
| 21:06.59 | bryjen | meacan: but who reads all that spiel |
| 21:07.11 | trepan | ~meacan++ |
| 21:07.30 | CBG | The Last Spartan is an age of mythology map, a Halo2 theme and more... |
| 21:07.40 | bryjen | the info about who the server was named for and their lovely acsii-art donations progress pie |
| 21:07.42 | meacan | CBG: yes it does. You just need to read it :) (its above the we-beg-for-money-freenode-pie-chart-thing) :) |
| 21:07.51 | bryjen | Mmm, pie |
| 21:08.01 | CBG | meacan: I don't see that on my client. |
| 21:08.04 | jpa_ | :/ |
| 21:09.26 | jpa_ | :( |
| 21:09.27 | Thumper_ | bryjen: sorry I was too lazy to turn my KeyTronic keyboard over |
| 21:09.29 | CBG | no bryjen. he said "keyTronic" and "They" and "ouT" ... |
| 21:09.33 | jpa_ | i was just trying to be nice |
| 21:09.39 | CBG | lol |
| 21:09.56 | Thumper_ | jpa: see what that gets you? |
| 21:10.01 | meacan | CBG: wierd client :) There outta be a server-window. |
| 21:10.21 | CBG | meacan: Its "colloquy", free, mac os x.. :) |
| 21:10.23 | jpa_ | Thumper_: lots of hugs! |
| 21:10.43 | JeffM2501 | ~sup |
| 21:10.44 | ibot | Yo jeffm2501, how's it going eh? |
| 21:10.52 | meacan | CBG: i know, i was just browsing screenshots to see i could prove you wrong :-) |
| 21:10.52 | JeffM2501 | !sup |
| 21:10.53 | TheLastSpartan | JeffM2501: Guu des whakaremasen! |
| 21:11.10 | JeffM2501 | TheLastSpartan, flush |
| 21:11.11 | TheLastSpartan | JeffM2501: okay |
| 21:11.12 | CBG | meacan: huh? |
| 21:11.29 | JeffM2501 | meacan, not all of them have them |
| 21:11.38 | JeffM2501 | XChat on the mac allows it to not be shown |
| 21:11.45 | meacan | CBG: i was just viewing the screenshots, to see if i could find a server-window. |
| 21:12.08 | CBG | Oh. :) How did you know I had Colloquy before I said? |
| 21:12.34 | JeffM2501 | eqqq |
| 21:12.36 | JeffM2501 | ewwww |
| 21:13.13 | meacan | CBG: "/ctcp CBG version" asks you client to tell me what version you're running. It gave me both a name and url |
| 21:13.32 | CBG | cool. |
| 21:13.45 | JeffM2501 | we also know your running OS 10.3.9 |
| 21:14.15 | spldart | Time to go home :) laterz |
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| 21:15.06 | CBG | Where does it say what OS I run? /ctcp CBG version ? |
| 21:15.20 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: wtf is wrong with me? |
| 21:15.27 | purple_cow | i'm actually considering that screamers thing :P |
| 21:15.35 | JeffM2501 | your not the only one :) |
| 21:16.04 | bryjen | heh. ask that question and be told to see #flood |
| 21:16.07 | bryjen | ;) |
| 21:16.34 | RichardRauch | CBG: It tells me what OS your IRC client thinks it's using... |
| 21:16.44 | RichardRauch | CBG: *** CTCP VERSION reply from CBG: Colloquy 2.0 (2D16) - Mac OS X 10.3.9 - http://colloquy.info |
| 21:16.59 | CBG | RichardRauch: Ok. Thanks. :) But /ctcp won't work for me. |
| 21:17.14 | JeffM2501 | CBG, that is because your client sucks |
| 21:17.18 | RichardRauch | Interesting. (shrug) |
| 21:17.18 | meacan | CBG: it works, youir client dosnt show it :) |
| 21:17.30 | CBG | JeffM2501: Yes. But it is FREE. :) |
| 21:17.40 | CBG | meacan: so whahst the use in that? |
| 21:17.40 | JeffM2501 | ummm... |
| 21:17.42 | CBG | *whats |
| 21:17.46 | RichardRauch | I think that the commands are handled by the server... |
| 21:17.46 | JeffM2501 | 99% of them are free |
| 21:17.52 | RichardRauch | (My client is free, too. Pffft.) |
| 21:17.53 | jpa_ | CBG: i think it goes to the server window.. or query window |
| 21:17.55 | JeffM2501 | actualy all of them that I know of are |
| 21:17.59 | CBG | JeffM2501: What would you reccomend I use? |
| 21:18.01 | JeffM2501 | some just ask for a reg to help them out |
| 21:18.04 | JeffM2501 | x-chataqua |
| 21:18.09 | CBG | server or query window? huh? |
| 21:18.48 | jpa_ | the tabs on the bottom or on the top.. there should be one called "irc.freenode.net" |
| 21:18.58 | CBG | Nope. |
| 21:19.03 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 21:19.05 | jpa_ | uh |
| 21:19.08 | jpa_ | oh |
| 21:19.14 | JeffM2501 | he's not using xchat |
| 21:19.15 | CBG | lol :) |
| 21:19.17 | JeffM2501 | he dosn't have tabs |
| 21:19.22 | jpa_ | for some reason i thought you used xchat :) |
| 21:19.29 | CBG | I do. |
| 21:19.40 | CBG | One for each channel... :) |
| 21:19.40 | jpa_ | i'm confused now :) |
| 21:19.47 | jpa_ | ah |
| 21:19.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's fulgy |
| 21:19.52 | CBG | none for server or "irc.freenode.net" |
| 21:19.53 | jpa_ | better go sleep |
| 21:20.16 | JeffM2501 | CBG, did you find it? |
| 21:20.27 | CBG | JeffM2501: Downloading as we speak. |
| 21:20.35 | CBG | How does it differ from xchat ? |
| 21:20.46 | JeffM2501 | it is on the mac |
| 21:20.55 | JeffM2501 | and uses the aqua API |
| 21:20.57 | JeffM2501 | not GTK |
| 21:21.07 | CBG | Regular "XChat" is not for mac? |
| 21:21.15 | JeffM2501 | well what do you think the X is for? |
| 21:21.22 | CBG | Mac os X maybe? |
| 21:21.25 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:21.28 | JeffM2501 | X11 |
| 21:21.37 | CBG | which is? :P |
| 21:21.44 | JeffM2501 | there were things in the world before apple got on that unix bandwagon :) |
| 21:21.57 | JeffM2501 | the core windowing system for linux, unix, and other systems |
| 21:22.19 | JeffM2501 | XChat has been ported to many systems |
| 21:22.29 | JeffM2501 | it's kind of the defacto standard in graphical clinets |
| 21:23.14 | JeffM2501 | so purple_cow ogre? |
| 21:23.16 | JeffM2501 | or something else? |
| 21:23.25 | JeffM2501 | I'll do the hard parts |
| 21:23.29 | JeffM2501 | since I know your buys |
| 21:23.30 | JeffM2501 | busy |
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| 21:23.47 | CBG2 | Well, it says NICKLEN=16 :) |
| 21:24.05 | JeffM2501 | hmm only a 1.2 gig PPC? |
| 21:24.10 | JeffM2501 | that's prety slow man |
| 21:24.17 | CBG | Who? |
| 21:24.20 | JeffM2501 | you |
| 21:24.29 | CBG | Its the cheapest apple there is. |
| 21:24.35 | JeffM2501 | not true |
| 21:24.37 | CBG | (current) |
| 21:24.41 | JeffM2501 | not true |
| 21:24.45 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: i thought mirc was the defacto ,) |
| 21:25.01 | CBG | Its cheaper than any other G4 ibook or powerbook. |
| 21:25.04 | JeffM2501 | only for the l33tD00dz and they don't count |
| 21:25.07 | CBG | Cheaper than any G5 imac |
| 21:25.17 | CBG | ah wait... |
| 21:25.18 | JeffM2501 | CBG it is the cheapest laptop yes |
| 21:25.18 | CBG | emacs... |
| 21:25.26 | JeffM2501 | mini :) |
| 21:25.29 | CBG | No. |
| 21:25.34 | CBG | The iBook worked out cheaper... |
| 21:25.43 | CBG | What with having to buy KB, Mouse, SCREEN... |
| 21:25.48 | JeffM2501 | well if you buy apple displays YEAH |
| 21:26.03 | CBG | This was not much more... |
| 21:26.10 | JeffM2501 | mini 499, 19" CRT 78$, keyboard + mouse = 30 |
| 21:26.12 | JeffM2501 | dine and done |
| 21:26.13 | CBG | How much can you get a 12" LCD for these days? |
| 21:26.21 | CBG | dine? |
| 21:26.24 | JeffM2501 | done |
| 21:26.28 | CBG2 | :P |
| 21:26.31 | JeffM2501 | why would anyone want a 12? |
| 21:26.32 | JeffM2501 | small |
| 21:26.34 | CBG | sush you, cbg2. |
| 21:26.34 | JeffM2501 | low res |
| 21:26.43 | CBG | I have a 12".... |
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| 21:26.47 | bryjen | is it dinner time yet? |
| 21:26.51 | JeffM2501 | yes because you want porability |
| 21:26.52 | jpa_ | 2 CBG!?! |
| 21:26.53 | JeffM2501 | you pay more for that |
| 21:26.55 | jpa_ | can this get worse? |
| 21:26.59 | JeffM2501 | so it was not the cheapest |
| 21:26.59 | CBG | It was 4.5 hours agoi bryjen. :P |
| 21:27.05 | JeffM2501 | it was the cheapest for YOUR needs |
| 21:27.08 | bryjen | yes, there could be 2 jpa_ |
| 21:27.10 | JeffM2501 | not the cheapest in existance |
| 21:27.13 | CBG | haha |
| 21:27.29 | CBG2 | JeffM2501: What I mean is, this worked out the cheapest solution for me. |
| 21:27.37 | CBG | ^ What he said. :) |
| 21:27.42 | JeffM2501 | pick a client |
| 21:27.50 | CBG | I cant. :( |
| 21:27.51 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: yeah, i was thinking ogre |
| 21:28.01 | JeffM2501 | I don't like there new menu system |
| 21:28.05 | JeffM2501 | you may tho |
| 21:28.13 | purple_cow | i haven't looked at it much |
| 21:28.23 | CBG | not untill I annoy you all with xc--- uh, not untill I check out allk the options on xchat aqua, i mean. :P |
| 21:28.24 | JeffM2501 | simple octree scenegraph? |
| 21:28.37 | purple_cow | we should probably try to define what the game looks like before thinking about any internals ;) |
| 21:28.38 | RichardRauch | OH, my NetBSD reminder service lets me know that today is "Flag Day". (^& |
| 21:28.40 | *** kick/#bzflag [CBG!~JeffM@users.gibbscam.com] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 21:28.44 | JeffM2501 | there |
| 21:28.45 | JeffM2501 | done |
| 21:28.53 | Birdie | lol |
| 21:28.59 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, yeah trying to get it's requirements |
| 21:29.01 | CBG2 | What kind of a reason is "JeffM2501" ? |
| 21:29.12 | JeffM2501 | the ONLY reason you need :) |
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| 21:29.21 | purple_cow | and then once that's done, i'd suggest we try to get it playable before having any fancy graphics ;) |
| 21:29.36 | JeffM2501 | so simple flat world, objects, that kinda stuff first? |
| 21:30.21 | JeffM2501 | well I have all those models and stuff, so we can just use them and the'll look decent for starters |
| 21:30.22 | purple_cow | whatever - something simple. we can refactor out parts to make it cool later |
| 21:30.52 | JeffM2501 | net lib sugestions? |
| 21:30.57 | purple_cow | and i'd love to sit and chat about this, but i've got to go look at an apartment and meet with people for work |
| 21:31.05 | JeffM2501 | well best of luck :) |
| 21:31.11 | JeffM2501 | victory or death |
| 21:32.32 | JeffM2501 | hmm I wonder where the old site went |
| 21:32.36 | JeffM2501 | it had a requirements doc |
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| 21:39.07 | CBG2 | too clunky.. :/ |
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| 21:39.58 | JeffM2501 | is there a way to find out what process us using what sockets? |
| 21:40.08 | JeffM2501 | on linux? |
| 21:40.26 | Tupone | server ? netstat |
| 21:40.27 | bryjen | netstat --programs |
| 21:41.10 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 21:41.33 | JeffM2501 | hmm it's blank |
| 21:41.59 | Tupone | netstat -ntpl ? |
| 21:42.23 | Tupone | list the process who listen |
| 21:42.29 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 21:42.30 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 21:42.30 | bryjen | --all to get listening sockets, and you may need to be root to see some program names |
| 21:42.48 | JeffM2501 | ahh root did it |
| 21:43.43 | JeffM2501 | odd there was a wget running |
| 21:44.18 | JeffM2501 | something has been leeching my bandwith at home when I'm playing WoW |
| 21:44.25 | JeffM2501 | so I've been trying to track it down |
| 21:44.58 | JeffM2501 | or I just need to redo sasami, and move all her web stuff to a new host |
| 21:45.25 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/configure.ac: AC_TRY_COMPILE obsoleted |
| 21:52.39 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/acinclude.m4: AC_TRY_RUN obsoleted |
| 21:52.57 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added 'Always Show Team Score' option (GUI Options Menu). |
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| 22:09.22 | Tupone | DTRemenak: I have fixed all configure warning |
| 22:09.31 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/configure.ac: All obsolete warnings gone |
| 22:09.38 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 22:09.47 | Tupone | good testing :) |
| 22:09.48 | DTRemenak | I'll start compiling |
| 22:12.17 | DTRemenak | configure.ac:16: `automake requires `AM_CONFIG_HEADER', not `AC_CONFIG_HEADER' |
| 22:15.15 | DTRemenak | SunOS blinky 5.8 Generic_117350-24 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V210; automake (GNU automake) 1.6.2; autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.53 |
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| 22:15.39 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, should I retry on the mac again to make sure it's still cool, when I get home? |
| 22:16.39 | Tupone | your automake is a bit old, but if that is the only warning put back AM_CONFIG_HEADER |
| 22:16.42 | DTRemenak | no such error on MINGW32_NT-5.0 ZALMOXIS 1.0.10(0.46/3/2) 2004-03-15 07:17 i686 unknown; automake (GNU automake) 1.7.1; autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.56 |
| 22:16.59 | Tupone | what distro is ? |
| 22:17.16 | DTRemenak | solaris |
| 22:17.26 | Tupone | ah yeah :) |
| 22:17.44 | Tupone | automake ... where it come from? you installed it ? |
| 22:17.59 | DTRemenak | no, it's probably from the sun gnu tools cd |
| 22:18.20 | spldart | Has anyone figured out what is kateewompus with bzbb? |
| 22:18.21 | Tupone | ok, we need to decide if we can live with a warning or not |
| 22:19.01 | Tupone | try to put back AM_CONFIG_HEADER and hope is the last error |
| 22:19.14 | DTRemenak | oh, and it is not warning - it's an error |
| 22:19.30 | Tupone | I mean a warning during autoreconf |
| 22:19.30 | shorty114 | spldart, apparently it's open to https://, but on the SSL server there's no /bb |
| 22:21.01 | DTRemenak | it works with AM_CONFIG_HEADER |
| 22:21.04 | Tupone | JeffM2501: if you can do .. thanks |
| 22:21.07 | DTRemenak | does that generate a warning for you? |
| 22:21.19 | Tupone | only when I run autoreconf --warning=all |
| 22:21.40 | spldart | bb gone? |
| 22:21.43 | spldart | :( |
| 22:21.48 | DTRemenak | if you want to kill the warning you should require a newer automake, I guess |
| 22:21.49 | Tupone | it says it is obsoleted. No problem with that |
| 22:22.28 | Tupone | well, obsolete means for that, it is redirected to AC_CONFIG_HEADERS. So it is the same |
| 22:22.41 | Tupone | just newer version can remove that |
| 22:22.58 | Tupone | but 1.9 stil support both |
| 22:23.08 | Pimpinella | something weird just happend to me on bzbb, got a failture because using plaint http to a ssl enabled server. it always did fine before. it only worked after requesting https://my.bzflag.org:80/bb/ |
| 22:23.56 | spldart | I'm having problems too... Your link made it work for me too |
| 22:24.42 | spldart | except topics can't be viewed :( |
| 22:24.43 | shorty114 | Pimpinella's link didn't work for me |
| 22:24.49 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/configure.ac: automake 1.6 requires AM_CONFIG_HEADER instead of AC_CONFIG_HEADER |
| 22:25.05 | shorty114 | comes up with an error that m.b.o didn't return a proper code/message |
| 22:25.10 | spldart | ah |
| 22:25.22 | spldart | went back to the normal url and it's workign again |
| 22:25.58 | Pimpinella | also for me now |
| 22:26.26 | Pimpinella | somebody playing with the server settings? |
| 22:32.08 | spldart | :( |
| 22:52.33 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, my.b.o is being upgraded to apache2 |
| 22:52.57 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 22:53.05 | JeffM2501 | so things have been "wierd" |
| 22:53.12 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 22:53.36 | shorty114 | hmm the banner on the forums is too wide for my monitor |
| 22:53.39 | shorty114 | the image pushes the text over |
| 22:53.46 | Pimpinella | ~dict wierd |
| 22:54.28 | menotume | ~dict weird |
| 22:54.29 | Pimpinella | much more like it would spell if pronounced german |
| 22:54.42 | menotume | hmm |
| 22:54.55 | shorty114 | only 6 months before i can use the BZ forums again :D |
| 22:55.14 | brad2901 | ? |
| 22:56.00 | Pimpinella | ~x de en vererben |
| 22:56.28 | shorty114 | COPPA |
| 22:58.58 | RichardRauch | Why 6 months, Shorty? |
| 22:59.24 | shorty114 | RichardRauch, i'm 13 in 6 months |
| 22:59.56 | RichardRauch | 13? |
| 22:59.57 | RichardRauch | Hm. |
| 23:00.12 | RichardRauch | Most of us are content to be unique. |
| 23:00.39 | RichardRauch | Is this a cloning process, or is it accomplished via subdivision? |
| 23:00.44 | RichardRauch | (^& |
| 23:01.46 | JeffM2501 | shorty114, get a bigger monitor |
| 23:02.29 | JeffM2501 | shorty114, you could use it now if you cared enough to get a coppa form filled out |
| 23:02.58 | shorty114 | JeffM2501, i'll just wait |
| 23:03.10 | menotume | that logo/layout forces 1024 resolution |
| 23:03.17 | shorty114 | i don't even play bz anymore |
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| 23:06.19 | JeffM2501 | sneaking it around your parrents? |
| 23:06.42 | shorty114 | sneaking what? |
| 23:06.55 | JeffM2501 | being on the net and stuff :) |
| 23:07.08 | shorty114 | noyb, they know about me being on the net |
| 23:07.22 | JeffM2501 | then why would they not do a coppa letter? |
| 23:07.27 | shorty114 | i never asked them |
| 23:07.31 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 23:07.47 | shorty114 | i couldn't find anything on the web relating on what's supposed to be in a COPPA letter |
| 23:07.51 | shorty114 | i probably didn't look hard enough |
| 23:07.59 | Grumbler | Coppacabana |
| 23:08.05 | JeffM2501 | all it is a letter that says we can store info for you |
| 23:08.12 | JeffM2501 | signed by one of them |
| 23:08.22 | JeffM2501 | there are even links on bzbb to the coppa site |
| 23:08.43 | shorty114 | mm i'll see if i can do that |
| 23:09.17 | shorty114 | i'll register as an "I agree to the terms and am under 13 years old" |
| 23:09.30 | JeffM2501 | that don't cut it |
| 23:09.39 | JeffM2501 | we must have a letter on file |
| 23:09.42 | JeffM2501 | fax it to Tim |
| 23:09.45 | shorty114 | i know, i'm thinking that it'll have instructions at the end |
| 23:09.51 | JeffM2501 | it won't |
| 23:10.19 | shorty114 | so why is there a COPPA Fax Number and Address field in the admin?? |
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| 23:10.34 | JeffM2501 | it shows somewhere |
| 23:10.47 | JeffM2501 | there arn't like step by step instructions tho |
| 23:11.14 | shorty114 | yeah, all i want is the fax number/address |
| 23:12.37 | JeffM2501 | tho you still have to follow the other rules, no spaming posts, stuppid stuff, or childish antics ;) |
| 23:14.20 | RichardRauch | You're not allowed to be stupid??? |
| 23:14.36 | menotume | bummer |
| 23:14.45 | JeffM2501 | min IQ of 110 |
| 23:14.50 | shorty114 | 146 here |
| 23:14.51 | brad2901 | :( |
| 23:14.51 | JeffM2501 | you pass don't you? |
| 23:15.00 | menotume | crap, i better dereg |
| 23:15.08 | shorty114 | idk, is 146 more or less than 110? ;) |
| 23:15.16 | RichardRauch | Never took an IQ test. |
| 23:15.24 | shorty114 | i took one to get into a school |
| 23:15.29 | shorty114 | 2 years ago |
| 23:15.29 | JeffM2501 | how many fingers am I holding up |
| 23:15.36 | Aribeth | 34 |
| 23:15.39 | RichardRauch | You don't hold up fingers. You hold up banks. |
| 23:15.41 | shorty114 | 274!!! |
| 23:15.41 | JeffM2501 | you pass |
| 23:15.41 | Aribeth | lol |
| 23:15.45 | shorty114 | lol @ RichardRauch |
| 23:16.03 | JeffM2501 | RichardRauch, e-transfers are easyer |
| 23:16.46 | RichardRauch | But you don't get to drive a getaway car if you do it via e-transfers. |
| 23:17.16 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 23:17.22 | JeffM2501 | but you can buy your own race track |
| 23:17.31 | Aribeth | holding up a bank will get your pic on the evening news |
| 23:18.09 | RichardRauch | I had a race track once. Mattel brand, probably...maybe HotWheels... |
| 23:20.11 | Aribeth | i remember raceing at a race track once |
| 23:20.42 | JeffM2501 | ari was a race car driver, drive so gosh darn fast. |
| 23:21.03 | Aribeth | hehe. i made a mess of the dirt parking lot |
| 23:21.25 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: find the old web page? |
| 23:22.02 | JeffM2501 | welllll |
| 23:22.06 | JeffM2501 | yes and no |
| 23:22.17 | JeffM2501 | I know where it is |
| 23:22.20 | JeffM2501 | but I can't get to it |
| 23:22.27 | JeffM2501 | I blocked port 80 on my router at home |
| 23:22.36 | JeffM2501 | can't open it till I get back there :) |
| 23:22.45 | RichardRauch | Aribeth: Sounds like fun. (^& |
| 23:23.04 | Aribeth | 66 Chevell SS full race |
| 23:23.12 | Aribeth | in 1973 |
| 23:23.14 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, like you I also got a bit busy |
| 23:23.23 | RichardRauch | This is why you should be using an old computer for a router (or at least firewall). ssh into it...(^& |
| 23:23.56 | RichardRauch | In 1973 I was all of 5 years old. That is about the time of my first driving experience. |
| 23:24.02 | RichardRauch | At the zoo. On a little rail train. |
| 23:24.23 | Aribeth | in 1973 i was out of high school |
| 23:24.37 | RichardRauch | I was terrified we'd go flying off (not train, sorry; but a safari-type ride on a rail; you have accelerator and limited steering). |
| 23:24.54 | JeffM2501 | autotopia |
| 23:24.57 | RichardRauch | The older I get, the more respect I have for my dad's courage who suggested I drive it, and he never screamed in terror. |
| 23:24.59 | RichardRauch | Not once. |
| 23:25.06 | Aribeth | top speed was 160+ miles per hour |
| 23:25.40 | RichardRauch | No, I'm pretty sure our safari cart didn't get up to 160mph. |
| 23:25.49 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 23:26.13 | Aribeth | the Chevell could do a 1/4 mile in less than 9 seconds |
| 23:26.51 | Aribeth | and thats with the front end off the ground the whole time |
| 23:27.31 | RichardRauch | Faster if the front end is scraping the ground and giving off sparks? (^& |
| 23:28.29 | Aribeth | no, only the rear tires on the ground and then just barely |
| 23:28.41 | RichardRauch | (Of course, in later years, when driving a real car, my dad always took firm hold of the door handle or the handle on the ceiling by the door...) |
| 23:29.00 | Aribeth | with that kind of horsepower the car would jump off the ground |
| 23:29.06 | RichardRauch | (When I was driving, that is, and he was in the car at the time...) |
| 23:29.23 | Aribeth | lol |
| 23:30.04 | RichardRauch | Oh no! It's my.bzflag.org.frankenstein |
| 23:36.22 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, DTRemenak did some stuff to make the CGI's work again on apache2 today too |
| 23:36.30 | JeffM2501 | he's my personal hero |
| 23:37.22 | Thumper_ | does Thief not have a shot limit like other flags? |
| 23:37.44 | JeffM2501 | flags by default don't have limits |
| 23:37.51 | JeffM2501 | limits must be applied |
| 23:37.56 | RichardRauch | Thief is only fun if you hold down <return> (default keyboard fire key). |
| 23:38.09 | Thumper_ | if I hold down the return key it seems to fire forever on my 3-shot server |
| 23:38.12 | RichardRauch | Oh, is it a feature that you canuse thief to walk through thin walls? |
| 23:38.20 | JeffM2501 | IIRC theif has a fire time that is so short it seems almost infinate tho |
| 23:39.01 | RichardRauch | On a rabbit server with paper thin walls, I noticed that if you are right up against the wall, running "into" it, and fire thief, you can walk through the wall. |
| 23:39.07 | Thumper_ | this? /set _thiefAdLife 0.050000 |
| 23:40.01 | RichardRauch | (Has to be paper thin, though; if the wall has any thickness, it doesn't work. Maybe only 0-thickness?) |
| 23:41.47 | RichardRauch | (Maybe related to the way you can fall-through some floors?) |
| 23:42.41 | RichardRauch | (at least, some players can; sniperid(?) had a map where I could fall through one of his floors just by standing on it 'long enough'. 'Long enough' seemed to be random, but generally was around 5 seconds.) |
| 23:42.56 | RichardRauch | (Not everyone could do it, though...) |
| 23:43.10 | JeffM2501 | actualy the thickness is probably related to the frame rate of the client shooting :) |
| 23:43.27 | JeffM2501 | if the time delta between checks is larger then the gap, it could jump it |
| 23:43.48 | RichardRauch | Really? |
| 23:43.56 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:44.08 | JeffM2501 | its all just timeslice data |
| 23:44.50 | JeffM2501 | take the time since last draw, extrapolate a new pos, then see if that new pos is inside something |
| 23:45.06 | RichardRauch | I had just about decided that bzflag was using a path collision detection of some sort. If you drop from a great height such that you move vertically *very* fast, I still have never fallen through a surface, even though my framerate is typcially about 20fps and you can get going quite fast if you drop far enough... |
| 23:45.09 | JeffM2501 | if the time delta is too big it could skip objects that are smaller |
| 23:45.10 | purple_cow | oh, right |
| 23:45.12 | spldart | ^_^ |
| 23:45.17 | purple_cow | brlcad, JeffM2501: i'm comin' out to LA again :) |
| 23:45.27 | JeffM2501 | wh0000t |
| 23:45.37 | JeffM2501 | RichardRauch, have you ever looked at the code? |
| 23:45.46 | spldart | Is there somewhere I can go to get tutorialed through setting up the anticamper SW like hepcat? |
| 23:46.00 | RichardRauch | No, i have not. That's why i'm asking questions rather than asserting how it works. (^& |
| 23:46.02 | JeffM2501 | spldart, do you want one SW on each base? |
| 23:46.08 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: yeah, I noticed. I was planning to fix the cgi's but he beat me to it. ;-) |
| 23:46.10 | JeffM2501 | or something more compelx? |
| 23:46.15 | spldart | Yeah.. right before team respawn |
| 23:46.20 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, I kinda poked him into doing it :) |
| 23:46.35 | JeffM2501 | spldart, add OnCap SW to each base in the map |
| 23:46.41 | JeffM2501 | and make sure you have current code |
| 23:46.49 | RichardRauch | (Well, I looked at tiny pieces when getting it to compile a few months ago, but I kept as far from it as possible...(^&) |
| 23:46.49 | spldart | uh oh... |
| 23:46.52 | spldart | I forgot |
| 23:46.58 | RichardRauch | I have the 2.0.2 code. |
| 23:47.00 | JeffM2501 | RichardRauch, then it's best not to assume :), it's code from 1992 |
| 23:47.01 | spldart | debian... get apt bzfs |
| 23:47.10 | spldart | I don't think I have current code :( |
| 23:47.10 | JeffM2501 | spldart, nope |
| 23:47.15 | spldart | well crap |
| 23:47.19 | JeffM2501 | current code isn't in apt |
| 23:47.22 | JeffM2501 | not till 2.0.4 |
| 23:47.25 | JeffM2501 | cvs |
| 23:47.28 | JeffM2501 | build build bild :) |
| 23:47.29 | spldart | That leaves me back at the ... yeah |
| 23:47.32 | JeffM2501 | it's eays |
| 23:47.34 | JeffM2501 | easy |
| 23:47.36 | RichardRauch | IT's a good thing that i'm not assuming. |
| 23:47.37 | spldart | build my own |
| 23:47.37 | JeffM2501 | I did it just yesteday |
| 23:47.38 | spldart | ok |
| 23:47.38 | RichardRauch | n(^& |
| 23:47.48 | spldart | Is there a tutorial on building bzfs on linux? |
| 23:47.51 | RichardRauch | apt? |
| 23:47.54 | spldart | :) |
| 23:47.55 | JeffM2501 | spldart, no |
| 23:47.56 | Aribeth | go forth and build |
| 23:47.59 | JeffM2501 | there are instructions |
| 23:48.04 | JeffM2501 | it's simple |
| 23:48.07 | spldart | crapenzee doeech |
| 23:48.11 | TimRiker | spldart: that's apt-get install bzflag-server actually. |
| 23:48.12 | JeffM2501 | ./autogen.sh |
| 23:48.15 | JeffM2501 | ./configure |
| 23:48.16 | JeffM2501 | make |
| 23:48.17 | JeffM2501 | that's it |
| 23:48.43 | spldart | Sounds easy when you say it like that but I'm WAY less linux savy than that |
| 23:48.44 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:48.45 | RichardRauch | In theory. If you're running GNU/LINUX. |
| 23:48.49 | JeffM2501 | he is |
| 23:48.51 | spldart | But I'll do some google research |
| 23:48.52 | Aribeth | look at www.bzflag.org for anon cvs instructions |
| 23:48.58 | JeffM2501 | I helped him set up his OS |
| 23:49.00 | spldart | Okies... I can do that |
| 23:49.03 | JeffM2501 | spldart, I'll help you thru it |
| 23:49.04 | JeffM2501 | it's easy |
| 23:49.07 | JeffM2501 | 1) go here |
| 23:49.07 | spldart | search search search |
| 23:49.07 | JeffM2501 | http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3248 |
| 23:49.12 | RichardRauch | (^& |
| 23:49.12 | spldart | Ok |
| 23:49.15 | JeffM2501 | 2) do the anon cvs part |
| 23:49.20 | JeffM2501 | get the module "bzflag" |
| 23:49.24 | TimRiker | ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make debian-cvs |
| 23:49.27 | JeffM2501 | but do it in a dir that you can build in |
| 23:49.40 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, he may need a package or 2 |
| 23:49.53 | JeffM2501 | I just did it from a clean deb yesterday |
| 23:49.56 | TimRiker | it'll complain about dependant packages. |
| 23:50.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:50.04 | spldart | Ok... gimme a second to get ready for this |
| 23:50.14 | JeffM2501 | you'll be fine :) |
| 23:50.38 | JeffM2501 | actualy for server only, you'll probably only need 1 package |
| 23:50.41 | JeffM2501 | curl dev |
| 23:51.15 | spldart | ok |
| 23:51.24 | JeffM2501 | do a apt-get install libcurl3-dev |
| 23:51.31 | RichardRauch | Why does bzflag requir ncurses? |
| 23:51.32 | JeffM2501 | first |
| 23:51.42 | JeffM2501 | RichardRauch, for bzadmin |
| 23:51.49 | RichardRauch | Ah...okay. |
| 23:51.51 | RichardRauch | Thanks. |
| 23:52.12 | JeffM2501 | spldart, I asume you don't need a client or linux bzadmin? |
| 23:52.30 | spldart | no |
| 23:52.33 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 23:52.35 | spldart | I bzadmin on windows boxen |
| 23:52.37 | spldart | heh |
| 23:52.49 | JeffM2501 | are you in a place where you can make a bzflag dir? |
| 23:52.52 | spldart | I ONLY bzfs on debian |
| 23:53.01 | JeffM2501 | on the linux system? |
| 23:53.03 | spldart | on my linux box? |
| 23:53.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:53.23 | JeffM2501 | I usualy make a /dev in my home dir |
| 23:53.31 | spldart | I have a /home/bzuser/bzstuff/ folder that my current bzconfigs are in |
| 23:53.41 | JeffM2501 | ok go up one level |
| 23:53.44 | JeffM2501 | lets not build in that dir |
| 23:53.49 | spldart | okies |
| 23:53.53 | JeffM2501 | then do this |
| 23:53.55 | JeffM2501 | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 23:54.17 | JeffM2501 | then this |
| 23:54.19 | JeffM2501 | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P bzflag |
| 23:54.38 | JeffM2501 | that should get a BUNCH of files |
| 23:54.46 | JeffM2501 | and make a bzflag dir in your bzuser dir |
| 23:55.08 | spldart | you should know... my current bzfs is in /usr/games/ |
| 23:55.16 | JeffM2501 | spldart, that's fine |
| 23:55.21 | JeffM2501 | this is just where we are going to build |
| 23:55.35 | JeffM2501 | in the end just the new bzfs executable will be put into your isntall dir |
| 23:55.47 | JeffM2501 | that way it keeps the install dirs clean |
| 23:56.30 | spldart | ok just a sec... I gotta remember how to do commands in terminal again..I'm only used to dos |
| 23:56.37 | spldart | like how to navigate folders |
| 23:56.39 | JeffM2501 | cd |
| 23:56.42 | JeffM2501 | same as dos :) |
| 23:56.47 | JeffM2501 | cd /home/bzuser |
| 23:56.54 | JeffM2501 | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 23:56.59 | JeffM2501 | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P bzflag |
| 23:57.04 | JeffM2501 | those 3 should do it |
| 23:57.05 | spldart | my bad |
| 23:57.23 | JeffM2501 | did you do the apt-get yet? |
| 23:57.31 | spldart | just a sec |
| 23:57.45 | *** join/#bzflag darth_mall (~evan@navi.cx) |
| 23:57.48 | JeffM2501 | or just gimme a ssh account |
| 23:57.50 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 23:57.55 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:57.58 | JeffM2501 | but then you won't learn |
| 23:58.09 | JeffM2501 | it's not hard tho |
| 23:58.09 | spldart | thinking I might set one of those up actually |
| 23:58.23 | spldart | so the wife can get around the network admin's at her workplace |
| 23:58.35 | JeffM2501 | once you have it set it's prety easy to update and rebuild |
| 23:58.53 | JeffM2501 | just route port 22 to the thing and add me as a user |
| 23:59.02 | spldart | it's aasking for a passpord |
| 23:59.02 | JeffM2501 | and if you want me to install anything I'd need sudo |
| 23:59.08 | JeffM2501 | hit enter |
| 23:59.08 | spldart | for cvs |
| 23:59.24 | JeffM2501 | anon dosn't need a pass |
| 23:59.33 | spldart | ok... blinking cursor.... |
| 23:59.43 | JeffM2501 | it should scroll stuff soon |
| 23:59.46 | JeffM2501 | or time out |
| 23:59.48 | spldart | crap.. unknown host... just a sec and I'll look for typos |
| 23:59.55 | JeffM2501 | cvs.sf.net |
