| 00:04.01 | Thumper_ | ruskie: (even though you're sleeping ;) cods made a patch to bail on infinite loop if flags can't be placed. you can patch bzfs with it |
| 00:04.43 | Thumper_ | ruskie: it's here -> http://arch.norang.ca/cgi-bin/archzoom.cgi/bernt@norang.ca--2005-main/bzmap-patches-bzfs--bzflag2-cvs--1.0--patch-7/common/bzfs-fix-flag-placement-loop.patch for current CVS code |
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| 00:21.22 | SportChick | hi retro |
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| 00:23.53 | retro | hey sportchick |
| 00:24.11 | retro | ain't seen you on secretplace recently. Then again, I've been on rather late |
| 00:24.25 | retro | boof has been kicking my buttocks the last few times I saw him. :-( |
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| 00:35.04 | spldart | Sorry to be a drag but is anyone else having severe problems with 'Cosmic Destroyer' ? |
| 00:36.59 | spldart | Apparently he logged onto my server to cuss me out... I don't even know the guy. |
| 00:37.09 | wegstar | hmm |
| 00:37.40 | spldart | I banned him locally but he's AOL so I imagine he'll be back the next time he logs in with his provider :( |
| 00:38.21 | JeffM2501 | global name? |
| 00:38.34 | spldart | lemme check |
| 00:39.21 | spldart | Player Cosmic Destroyer [1] has joined from 172.196.129.186 at 2005-06-06 19:32:51 with token "505513614" |
| 00:39.31 | JeffM2501 | what'd he do? |
| 00:39.35 | spldart | And how about somebody called 'Aryan Tanker' |
| 00:40.07 | spldart | apparently he came in and was cussing me out. I'm logged in as bzadmin_spldart. |
| 00:40.19 | spldart | Hrm... |
| 00:40.29 | spldart | I wonder if our Nazi friends are back :( |
| 00:41.01 | JeffM2501 | hmm I could make an asshats group on bzbb, and you could make it a group on your server and make them not able to spawn :) |
| 00:41.03 | spldart | Player ARYAN TANKER [1] has joined from 12.158.242.12 at 2005-06-06 19:28:05 with token "" But this dude didn't say anything |
| 00:41.05 | JeffM2501 | thor talk |
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| 00:41.11 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:41.21 | JeffM2501 | and then no mater what IP he hits he's useless |
| 00:42.37 | spldart | I'd post the crap that cosmic destroyer spammed me with but it's 80% cuss words and not approriate for this channel |
| 00:42.58 | JeffM2501 | add a new group to your groups file that denys all perms |
| 00:43.08 | JeffM2501 | called "BZBB.ASSHATS" |
| 00:43.22 | spldart | Can you give me a sample line I can add to my groups? |
| 00:43.37 | JeffM2501 | what is your default line look like |
| 00:44.21 | JeffM2501 | your reg only right? |
| 00:44.21 | spldart | Ok.. I got my group.db open... |
| 00:44.26 | JeffM2501 | what lines do you have in it? |
| 00:44.27 | spldart | I have LOCAL.COPS: KICK SHORTBAN FLAGRESET as the only line right now |
| 00:44.37 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 00:44.40 | JeffM2501 | your not reg only then |
| 00:44.47 | spldart | no |
| 00:44.53 | spldart | I guess I should do that |
| 00:44.54 | JeffM2501 | then it won't work for ya |
| 00:45.19 | spldart | Since I'm on linux now my global login USUALLY works hehe |
| 00:46.26 | spldart | Now that I think about it this cosmic destroyer name sounds familiar... But can't remember from where |
| 00:47.01 | JeffM2501 | well you could add BZBB.ASSHATS: -SPAWN -TALK IIRC |
| 00:47.12 | JeffM2501 | and that would remove those perms |
| 00:47.34 | spldart | Just that line to my group.db file? |
| 00:47.36 | JeffM2501 | he'd get around it by going non reg |
| 00:47.37 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:47.40 | spldart | oh |
| 00:47.41 | JeffM2501 | sans the IIRC part :) |
| 00:47.43 | spldart | welll |
| 00:47.52 | spldart | I'll try it. sans IIRC |
| 00:47.56 | JeffM2501 | if you required reg, and did that line, he'd never be able to use that name :) |
| 00:48.10 | spldart | How could I require reg? |
| 00:48.42 | spldart | And how can I reload the group file? |
| 00:48.59 | JeffM2501 | there is a requireID perm or something |
| 00:49.03 | JeffM2501 | and reload, I dono |
| 00:49.06 | JeffM2501 | maybe /reload |
| 00:49.07 | spldart | okies |
| 00:49.12 | spldart | I just did /reload |
| 00:50.08 | spldart | AHH |
| 00:50.25 | spldart | I found him... cosmic destroyer was banned by me some time ago for cussing and spamming |
| 00:50.36 | spldart | He just came back on another IP |
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| 00:51.49 | spldart | Originally he was 172.195.242.241 |
| 00:54.12 | spldart | So the BZBB.ASSHATS group... Is that a online list? |
| 00:55.17 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:55.23 | spldart | pretty sweet |
| 00:55.50 | spldart | Can I look this list up... Like the banlist? |
| 00:56.49 | JeffM2501 | it won't ban him but you can make that group basicly be unable to do anything |
| 00:58.01 | spldart | So I have to add him to that group myself. |
| 00:58.25 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:58.33 | JeffM2501 | I added him to the group |
| 00:58.45 | JeffM2501 | just make the group able to do nothing on your server |
| 00:58.57 | JeffM2501 | then who ever we add to the group will not be able to do stuff on your server |
| 00:59.00 | JeffM2501 | like a jerk list |
| 00:59.03 | spldart | Sorry.. Shortly after switching over to linux to get the global login issue fixed I was pulled away from developing bz stuff by other R.W. issues. |
| 00:59.16 | JeffM2501 | he'd be able to play on other global auth servers |
| 00:59.23 | JeffM2501 | just not ones that subscribe to our "jerk list" |
| 00:59.31 | spldart | I haven't been able to get back and get my server all nice and set up some cops and finish my new map and stuff |
| 00:59.58 | spldart | IC.. Sweet idea. |
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| 01:10.19 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: this jerk-list is new? |
| 01:10.43 | wegstar | hmm |
| 01:14.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah I just made it like now :) |
| 01:20.07 | spldart | Wow |
| 01:20.22 | spldart | I was witness to the birth of a new form of idiot control :~D |
| 01:20.33 | JeffM2501 | you were |
| 01:20.38 | spldart | Sweet |
| 01:20.40 | JeffM2501 | spawwned right from my ass |
| 01:20.43 | spldart | LMAO |
| 01:20.52 | JeffM2501 | you may want to wash it off |
| 01:21.01 | spldart | LMMFAO"!!! |
| 01:22.59 | Grumbler | or use it in shampoo |
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| 01:23.46 | ^Sharpshooter^ | ? |
| 01:23.48 | spldart | BTW.. So what is the appropriate way to introduce a new name to this new list. Here? Bring the name and the reason it's being proposed? |
| 01:23.49 | JeffM2501 | boycot shampoo.. demand REAL poo |
| 01:23.54 | ^Sharpshooter^ | jeffm |
| 01:23.58 | JeffM2501 | tell me |
| 01:24.04 | spldart | Down with the man with the Sham! |
| 01:24.04 | JeffM2501 | and I add them |
| 01:24.05 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:24.05 | ^Sharpshooter^ | im banned from the forum.. |
| 01:24.09 | spldart | okies |
| 01:24.24 | spldart | So whether here or bz bb private message is fine? |
| 01:24.29 | JeffM2501 | whereever |
| 01:24.33 | spldart | okies |
| 01:24.41 | JeffM2501 | you could also make a spldart.asshats group for just your server too |
| 01:25.25 | spldart | How would I go about that? (sorry for the noob question) |
| 01:25.49 | JeffM2501 | ask me to make you a group |
| 01:25.54 | JeffM2501 | and then I set you as the admin |
| 01:25.55 | spldart | Oh... IC |
| 01:26.03 | spldart | I get it... My bad |
| 01:26.04 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:26.22 | spldart | I might do that later. |
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| 02:14.27 | orange | can't people unjoin groups on bzbb to which they belong? |
| 02:18.32 | Aribeth_away | hi orange |
| 02:35.55 | orange | hey aribeth |
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| 02:41.23 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: so this new list... are the members publicly viewable? and it only works for registered nicks right? |
| 02:41.40 | Aribeth | some storm orange |
| 02:42.16 | JeffM2501 | public view no |
| 02:42.19 | JeffM2501 | registered yes |
| 02:42.22 | JeffM2501 | opt in only, yes |
| 02:42.29 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 02:42.47 | JeffM2501 | aka, it's not default on any servers |
| 02:43.01 | Thumper_ | right ... opt in only ... for membership on the list ;) |
| 02:43.09 | JeffM2501 | for useage of the list too |
| 02:43.12 | Thumper_ | oh please please PLEASE put me on it... NOT |
| 02:43.42 | JeffM2501 | basicly it's just a list of users who are kinda jerks |
| 02:43.48 | Thumper_ | ok so it only really works well if the server requires player id before allowing spawning right? |
| 02:43.53 | JeffM2501 | not really banable, but people who have had problems and complaints |
| 02:43.54 | Thumper_ | ie no anon players |
| 02:44.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah, otherwise it's easy to get around |
| 02:44.29 | Thumper_ | ok - I'm not ready to restrict my servers to no anon players yet... |
| 02:44.47 | JeffM2501 | your call |
| 02:45.00 | Thumper_ | if it gets bad I'll just change my mind on that one |
| 02:45.24 | Thumper_ | is it the same mechanism as the regular lists? |
| 02:45.30 | JeffM2501 | the more jerks there are.. the more systems go global only :) |
| 02:45.32 | Thumper_ | so players that get added to it get PM notifications? |
| 02:45.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's just a group |
| 02:45.41 | JeffM2501 | with me as admin |
| 02:45.43 | JeffM2501 | nothoing new |
| 02:46.14 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 02:46.23 | JeffM2501 | probably depends on how big a jerk they are :) |
| 02:46.32 | Thumper_ | we have all kinds :) |
| 02:46.40 | JeffM2501 | that there are |
| 02:47.15 | Thumper_ | are you going to post something on bzbb about it? so server owners will know it exists and how to use it? |
| 02:47.34 | JeffM2501 | naw |
| 02:47.37 | Thumper_ | k |
| 02:47.41 | JeffM2501 | bsicly it's just my private lists |
| 02:47.49 | JeffM2501 | for servers who trust me |
| 02:48.15 | spldart | cool |
| 02:48.29 | Thumper_ | who is on the bzflag developers list? trepan mentioned (a _long_ time ago now - pre 2.0.0 release) that I should add them as admins... |
| 02:48.39 | JeffM2501 | let me look |
| 02:48.50 | JeffM2501 | that one should be publicly viewable |
| 02:48.59 | Thumper_ | oh it is? what's it called? |
| 02:49.20 | JeffM2501 | it wasn't |
| 02:49.21 | JeffM2501 | it is now |
| 02:49.25 | JeffM2501 | it's just "closed" |
| 02:49.38 | JeffM2501 | it's called "developers" amazingly enough |
| 02:50.10 | Thumper_ | 'planing developers' ? |
| 02:50.20 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:50.25 | JeffM2501 | that's my special group |
| 02:50.34 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/groupcp.php?g=1235 |
| 02:50.41 | Thumper_ | don't see just 'developers' anywhere |
| 02:50.47 | JeffM2501 | hmm wierd |
| 02:51.17 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.27 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:51.31 | JeffM2501 | chestal,dtr,learner, mebigfatguy, purpilecow,tim, trepan, tupone, me, and orchid |
| 02:51.40 | Thumper_ | got it from your link. thx |
| 02:51.53 | JeffM2501 | not a horibly big group |
| 02:51.59 | Thumper_ | nope. |
| 02:52.23 | orange | JeffM2501: can't a user leave any group of which they are a member (on phpbb?) |
| 02:52.45 | JeffM2501 | depends on if it's open o closed I thinkk |
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| 02:56.09 | Thumper_ | ok so to add the developers as admins... in the group file it's just DEVELOPERS: privs ? |
| 02:56.35 | spldart | ooo... that's a good idea |
| 02:56.41 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:56.43 | Thumper_ | the groupfile can't use other groups in the right hand side can they? |
| 02:57.01 | spldart | I could add that to my group.db file too |
| 02:57.02 | Thumper_ | DEVELOPERS: NORANG.SRADMIN for instance |
| 02:57.14 | Thumper_ | instead of repeating all the same privs as the NORANG.SRADMIN group line |
| 02:57.38 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 02:57.52 | JeffM2501 | dude just copy and paste :) |
| 02:57.56 | Thumper_ | :-P |
| 02:58.02 | Thumper_ | that's easy... |
| 02:58.08 | Thumper_ | just not the answer I was hoping for ;_ |
| 02:58.10 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 02:58.57 | spldart | I wouldn't mind any of the developers being able to police on my server if they should ever find themselves there. |
| 02:59.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 02:59.56 | JeffM2501 | bahh stupid password changes |
| 03:01.01 | Thumper_ | done. |
| 03:01.44 | JeffM2501 | cool... now all I have to do is get passwords for that DoD system and I can rule the world!!!!!!!! ;) |
| 03:03.08 | Thumper_ | feel free :) |
| 03:03.29 | Aribeth | rule the world from jail |
| 03:03.32 | Thumper_ | lol |
| 03:03.35 | Aribeth | lol |
| 03:03.40 | JeffM2501 | not if I own all the jails :) |
| 03:03.45 | Aribeth | true |
| 03:03.50 | JeffM2501 | and my army of robots |
| 03:04.10 | Thumper_ | they'll have internet access... |
| 03:04.10 | Thumper_ | ... but it'll be dialup :) |
| 03:04.10 | Aribeth | quick, disconnect |
| 03:04.19 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 03:04.32 | JeffM2501 | DSL here is now cheaper then some dialups |
| 03:05.16 | Aribeth | ya, price wars |
| 03:05.42 | JeffM2501 | 14.95 for a1.5 down 256 up |
| 03:05.52 | Aribeth | thats good |
| 03:06.09 | Thumper_ | so get 2 |
| 03:06.13 | Aribeth | sad, no dsl here. too far. had to go cable |
| 03:06.16 | JeffM2501 | I'm moving |
| 03:06.32 | JeffM2501 | when I move I'll have 2 3meg down 768k up lines |
| 03:06.43 | Aribeth | thats good |
| 03:06.59 | Thumper_ | mine is only 5meg down, 8k up |
| 03:07.03 | Thumper_ | single cable modem |
| 03:07.06 | Aribeth | i have 1.5/384 right now |
| 03:07.07 | JeffM2501 | 8k |
| 03:07.12 | JeffM2501 | 8????? |
| 03:07.13 | Thumper_ | 800k |
| 03:07.14 | Thumper_ | sorry |
| 03:07.15 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 03:07.15 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 03:07.51 | Aribeth | Adelphia wants 60.00 for 3mb 768kb |
| 03:08.06 | JeffM2501 | adelphia is EVIL |
| 03:08.11 | Thumper_ | it's $50 CAD here |
| 03:08.18 | Aribeth | only came in town here |
| 03:08.24 | Aribeth | game* |
| 03:08.24 | JeffM2501 | move :) |
| 03:08.31 | Aribeth | i just did |
| 03:08.40 | JeffM2501 | then you didn't do it right :) |
| 03:08.50 | Aribeth | im locked in this house for 1 year |
| 03:08.51 | Thumper_ | hmm i was about to say 'then you did it wrong' |
| 03:08.56 | orange | ah, adelphia |
| 03:09.08 | Thumper_ | phil-adelphia ? |
| 03:09.10 | orange | I'm surprised you can't get dsl though |
| 03:09.16 | Aribeth | ya i did. oh well |
| 03:09.29 | orange | aribeth, you should have bought my house |
| 03:09.30 | Aribeth | im 26000 feet from the co |
| 03:09.36 | orange | I qualify for DSL and my house is for sale too :-) |
| 03:09.54 | Aribeth | ahh, too bad |
| 03:10.06 | orange | and I really really want to sell it too |
| 03:10.07 | JeffM2501 | start busting lines, then they'll put a RT in to boost signal :) |
| 03:10.51 | Aribeth | the problem here is the town is growing faster than the infrastructure |
| 03:11.04 | orange | you can say that again |
| 03:11.10 | JeffM2501 | sounds like it's time for you to be mayor |
| 03:11.13 | Thumper_ | where is that not the case? |
| 03:11.21 | Aribeth | orange, wish i could buy a house now |
| 03:11.48 | orange | you shoulda talked to me before you bought ;-) |
| 03:11.58 | Aribeth | im renting |
| 03:12.02 | orange | ohhh |
| 03:12.26 | spldart | Renting is evil :( |
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| 03:12.33 | Aribeth | it is |
| 03:12.41 | orange | it has its place |
| 03:12.51 | spldart | Perhaps |
| 03:12.55 | Aribeth | Tegan may be able to buy in 8 months |
| 03:12.58 | spldart | I'm finally buying and glad |
| 03:13.04 | spldart | Bout 5 years ago |
| 03:13.56 | Aribeth | well, i didnt have much time to plan the move right |
| 03:14.15 | spldart | Sounds like my last move :( |
| 03:14.29 | Aribeth | i wanted a year to do it right and got 60 days |
| 03:15.23 | Thumper_ | night all... |
| 03:15.28 | spldart | Night thumper |
| 03:15.29 | Aribeth | night |
| 03:17.42 | Aribeth | so what happened to hepcat? |
| 03:18.08 | orange | nobody knows |
| 03:18.09 | orange | it's just gone |
| 03:18.25 | orange | I think silverfox's servers are still running |
| 03:18.34 | Aribeth | weird |
| 03:18.38 | orange | but they aren't drawing the crowds |
| 03:19.04 | Aribeth | i noticed my servers are getting more players now |
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| 03:19.30 | Aribeth | hi SGK284 |
| 03:23.48 | spldart | Cosmos dissappeared at the same time to right? |
| 03:24.55 | spldart | I hope he didn't get into trouble.. |
| 03:26.10 | Aribeth | i got back online just as all this with hepcat happened |
| 03:26.43 | Aribeth | everyone was asking me what happened |
| 03:27.24 | spldart | Hepcat/overlord had become my favorite server/map after i got the basics down on secret/spiral |
| 03:28.14 | Aribeth | i think i played there twice |
| 03:42.25 | Aribeth | g'night all |
| 03:43.27 | sgk284 | hey aribeth! |
| 03:43.38 | Aribeth_away | hi sgk |
| 04:04.32 | spldart | night all... Thanks Jeff |
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| 04:13.44 | bryjen | what's that quote about confusing malice with ignorance? |
| 04:22.39 | trepan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_Razor |
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| 06:41.48 | jolie | morning |
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| 08:45.36 | Chestal | bine: wie isses mit Cafete heute? |
| 08:45.38 | Chestal | oops |
| 08:56.43 | Pimpinella | hattet ihr nicht aufstiegsparty oder so? |
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| 11:06.11 | sniper_ | hi |
| 11:06.45 | sniper_ | who can give me a lot of maps for BzFlag?:O |
| 11:08.32 | [dmp] | talk with the people who make them |
| 11:08.48 | sniper_ | I do not know ppl that make maps |
| 11:08.49 | sniper_ | i need |
| 11:08.51 | sniper_ | server + map |
| 11:08.52 | sniper_ | ;) |
| 11:09.11 | sniper_ | who can host and who can give me a lot of maps? |
| 11:09.43 | sniper_ | ~karma |
| 11:09.43 | ibot | sniper_ has neutral karma |
| 11:10.06 | [dmp] | Did you try looking at bzbb forum? |
| 11:10.11 | sniper_ | ok |
| 11:10.12 | sniper_ | ty |
| 11:10.23 | sniper_ | but , i am under 13 years old |
| 11:11.17 | [dmp] | I think you still can read the forums |
| 11:11.22 | sniper_ | yea |
| 11:11.26 | jpa_ | uh, why do you need to have your own server, if you don't even have own maps? |
| 11:11.26 | sniper_ | but i want to post , too |
| 11:11.32 | sniper_ | lol |
| 11:11.39 | sniper_ | jpa, u forgot somehting, i am cristi ;) |
| 11:11.52 | jpa_ | aha |
| 11:12.15 | jpa_ | no logic in cristi.. i won't ask more |
| 11:12.36 | sniper_ | no , i was just told u .. i think now u r not ignoring me |
| 11:13.17 | jpa_ | actually, i didn't know (remember) you are sniper now, would have ignored otherwise |
| 11:13.47 | sniper_ | :) |
| 11:15.12 | sniper_ | jpa , i am ignored by u ? :O |
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| 11:36.56 | sniper_ | ~say <sniper_> jpa_: i am ignored by you? |
| 11:37.35 | ibot | <sniper_> jpa_: i am ignored by you |
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| 12:48.56 | Birdie | ~saw gina |
| 12:49.11 | Birdie | ~seen gina |
| 12:49.16 | ibot | gina <~gigi@23-162.241.81.adsl.skynet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 6d 13h 51m 13s ago, saying: 'Wurst mit Sauerkraut'. |
| 12:57.05 | Grumbler | pull! |
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| 13:15.00 | sniper_ | hwy |
| 13:15.19 | sniper_ | i have box |
| 13:15.20 | sniper_ | position -20 -20 0 |
| 13:15.20 | sniper_ | size 10 20 10 |
| 13:15.20 | sniper_ | end |
| 13:15.24 | sniper_ | how i set material for it ? |
| 13:16.03 | sniper_ | can any1 help me with that / |
| 13:16.25 | sniper_ | ? |
| 13:17.37 | trepan | you can't |
| 13:17.44 | sniper_ | hm |
| 13:17.59 | sniper_ | well , then, i need use meshbox? |
| 13:18.16 | Aribeth | hi trepan |
| 13:18.37 | trepan | hiya Ari |
| 13:18.47 | sniper_ | i need use mesh box? |
| 13:21.06 | trepan | ~bzw |
| 13:21.07 | ibot | i guess bzw is at http://users.pandora.be/dpf/bzWorlds/index.html |
| 13:21.18 | trepan | hm |
| 13:21.20 | sniper_ | k but i already got it :) |
| 13:21.29 | sniper_ | not the url |
| 13:21.32 | sniper_ | the map work |
| 13:22.03 | sniper_ | hm not work |
| 13:22.29 | sniper_ | can i spam u with my code? a material and a mesh box ? |
| 13:22.49 | sniper_ | pls |
| 13:22.52 | sniper_ | i will send it |
| 13:22.57 | Aribeth | better to use pastebin |
| 13:23.09 | trepan | sniper_: don't ever PM me again, pls |
| 13:23.22 | sniper_ | k |
| 13:23.24 | sniper_ | ok |
| 13:23.28 | sniper_ | well, i will use pastebin |
| 13:23.30 | sniper_ | tell me url |
| 13:24.34 | sniper_ | done i already got it |
| 13:24.35 | sniper_ | http://pastebin.com/296432 |
| 13:25.19 | sniper_ | pls tell me anyerrors |
| 13:26.00 | sniper_ | bug was, resetmat ;) |
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| 13:37.38 | Thumper_ | morning trepan |
| 13:38.10 | sniper_ | hi thumper_ :) |
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| 13:39.34 | trepan | Thumper_: i consider 'morning' a relative term ;-) |
| 13:39.40 | Thumper_ | me2 |
| 13:39.53 | Thumper_ | first time I've seen you today... therefore it's morning :) |
| 13:40.00 | sniper_ | ;) |
| 13:40.03 | sniper_ | i gotta go eat |
| 13:40.05 | sniper_ | cya all |
| 13:40.14 | Thumper_ | bye sniper/cristi/... |
| 13:40.25 | Thumper_ | lag seems to be a big issue in bzflag |
| 13:40.39 | Thumper_ | if the server did all the work for hit detection instead of the |
| 13:40.47 | Thumper_ | client could that help at all? |
| 13:41.41 | trepan | no, that would make the clients feel jerky |
| 13:41.47 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 13:42.41 | Thumper_ | and clients would explode when bullets seem far away (for the tank hit) |
| 13:43.09 | Thumper_ | which would not be better :/ |
| 13:44.06 | [dmp] | We could make bzflag turnbased :) |
| 13:44.12 | trepan | having both do the physics is prolly the way you'd want to go eventually |
| 13:44.50 | trepan | but i'm sure the irc logs are filled with previously versions of this conversation |
| 13:45.08 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 13:46.03 | Grumbler | not sure if i should fishslap [dmp] or pat him on the back....a turn based bzflag.......hmmmmmmm |
| 13:46.24 | trepan | just make a plugin for it ;) |
| 13:46.27 | Grumbler | probably have to call it bzchess |
| 13:46.35 | [dmp] | hehe |
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| 13:46.51 | Thumper_ | is there a good log search somewhere? |
| 13:47.11 | [dmp] | Actually, Im gonna write about network in realtime games. I hope that I can use bzflag for testing ideas and approaches |
| 13:48.18 | Thumper_ | Grumbler: whaleslap |
| 13:50.03 | Thumper_ | trepan: is there an archive of the 'technical' conversations on this channel somewhere |
| 13:50.15 | [dmp] | ~logs |
| 13:50.16 | ibot | from memory, logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 13:50.17 | Thumper_ | that would probably be interesting reading if we can search it/ filter out all the noise |
| 13:50.41 | [dmp] | I dont think anyone did any filtering :) |
| 13:50.46 | trepan | familiar with zgrep? ;) |
| 13:52.23 | Thumper_ | trepan: yes... bug need something to zgrep. guess I can suck all the logs from Riker's site with curl... |
| 13:52.37 | Thumper_ | trepan: so in other words I have to roll my own ;) thanks. |
| 13:53.51 | trepan | smoke 'em if you've got 'em |
| 13:53.58 | Thumper_ | hehe |
| 13:54.19 | trepan | you may want to google for terms like: co-simulation, multiplayer, authoritative server, etc... |
| 13:54.31 | trepan | there's all kinds of docs out there |
| 13:54.37 | Thumper_ | oh yeah... google. duh. |
| 13:54.57 | Thumper_ | the coffee isn't working this morning :( |
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| 13:56.47 | sniper_ | hi |
| 14:01.22 | Grumbler | try espresso |
| 14:01.41 | Aribeth | try Italian Roast |
| 14:02.37 | jolie | TRY MOCCA |
| 14:03.22 | Aribeth | any dark roast coffee will have more bang per cup |
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| 14:06.45 | sniper_ | hey again, hey thumper_ |
| 14:07.32 | sniper_ | nidhoggr is here? |
| 14:08.06 | Aribeth | lol |
| 14:08.24 | sniper_ | y lol ? |
| 14:08.25 | sniper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.55 | Aribeth | once you try fresh ground coffee you never want to go back to instant |
| 14:09.04 | Thumper_ | instant - ick. |
| 14:09.11 | Thumper_ | percolated Columbian Supremo |
| 14:09.16 | jolie | instant.. :S |
| 14:09.34 | jolie | hey guys |
| 14:09.39 | Grumbler | once you try a coffee press you never go back to drip |
| 14:09.41 | jolie | hey orchid pie |
| 14:09.41 | Thumper_ | if you are gonna drink instant... you may as well just put mud in a cup and stir |
| 14:09.53 | orchid | hi :) |
| 14:09.59 | Aribeth | hi orchid |
| 14:10.04 | sniper_ | thumper_ , norang.ca olympics? |
| 14:10.07 | sniper_ | you want to play> |
| 14:10.08 | sniper_ | ? |
| 14:10.12 | sniper_ | >o) |
| 14:10.13 | Thumper_ | sniper_: no |
| 14:10.18 | orchid | hey Aribeth |
| 14:10.19 | sniper_ | k |
| 14:10.46 | sniper_ | gimmy the perl script then :) |
| 14:11.21 | Thumper_ | what perl script |
| 14:11.26 | Aribeth | i never percolate coffee |
| 14:11.33 | sniper_ | bzmap-2.0 |
| 14:11.40 | Thumper_ | there is no such thing |
| 14:11.43 | Thumper_ | it's Python. |
| 14:11.47 | sniper_ | yea |
| 14:11.50 | sniper_ | sorry, python |
| 14:11.55 | Thumper_ | you got the link yesterday. |
| 14:12.12 | sniper_ | hm, can u give me it again ? |
| 14:12.17 | Thumper_ | get it from the logs |
| 14:12.25 | sniper_ | oh ok |
| 14:12.26 | Birdie | ~logs |
| 14:12.28 | ibot | [logs] http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 14:12.39 | sniper_ | k thank u |
| 14:13.54 | sniper_ | done got it |
| 14:14.14 | sniper_ | but, the fun part |
| 14:14.20 | sniper_ | can u tell me wat to select |
| 14:14.20 | sniper_ | ? |
| 14:14.26 | sniper_ | from this : http://arch.tuxee.net/archzoom.cgi/frederic@jolliton.com--2005-main/bzmap-system--experimental--0.2 |
| 14:14.26 | jolie | hey Grumbler what kinda tea do you drink? |
| 14:15.20 | Thumper_ | sniper_: last patch -> Download tree, no go do it already |
| 14:15.24 | Thumper_ | now* |
| 14:15.43 | sniper_ | k |
| 14:16.04 | Aribeth | i do miss my Kenya coffee |
| 14:16.10 | Thumper_ | jolie: so you're just a blur as you walk thru the house? |
| 14:16.27 | jolie | heh |
| 14:16.27 | Thumper_ | jolie: from all the caffeine vibrations |
| 14:16.38 | jolie | nah but my son is in the lovely age of .. climbing all and dropping all.. |
| 14:16.39 | Aribeth | buzzin |
| 14:16.52 | jolie | you gotta be ready to stop him from pushing computer |
| 14:17.08 | Grumbler | jolie, mixture of whatever i can get strolling through various tea places in the area.......i stick with twinnings for breakfast.....i still need some caffiene |
| 14:18.26 | Aribeth | after 6 years i finaly found decaf tea for makeing iced tea |
| 14:19.20 | Grumbler | in atlanta it doesnt matter.....all ice tea is sweetened with 20lbs of sugar/glass.... :) |
| 14:20.03 | Aribeth | hehe. the movers made iced tea for the helpers and they complained that it wasn't sweet enough |
| 14:20.51 | Aribeth | i never found the decaf tea in CA, but its everywhere here |
| 14:20.52 | Grumbler | yeah, i was shocked when my cousins made me ice tea.....lost a few teeth on that one |
| 14:21.05 | Aribeth | eek |
| 14:21.30 | Grumbler | i think luzianne has a decaf rev....makes a good tasting ice tea |
| 14:21.49 | Aribeth | i found lipton here |
| 14:22.04 | sniper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.02 | Aribeth | iced tea is better for you than sodas |
| 14:24.01 | Grumbler | ....you still have to make 40 trips to the toliets though.. :) |
| 14:24.12 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 14:25.06 | Aribeth | na, just stand outside here for an hour. at 88% humidity you can sweat it out |
| 14:25.20 | Aribeth | :) |
| 14:25.48 | sniper_ | who wants play bzflag? |
| 14:26.14 | jolie | Birdie |
| 14:26.24 | sniper_ | shure |
| 14:26.25 | sniper_ | ? |
| 14:26.30 | sniper_ | what server ? |
| 14:26.36 | Birdie | hey! |
| 14:26.40 | jolie | thihi |
| 14:26.50 | sniper_ | who wants play bzlag? |
| 14:26.56 | sniper_ | bzflag* |
| 14:28.30 | Grumbler | heh |
| 14:28.38 | sniper_ | who wants to play BzFLag ? |
| 14:28.38 | Pimpinella | if anyone wants to help be rooting out the bug that makes match servers crash on /countdown, try on pimpi.dyndns.org:5154 |
| 14:28.41 | Thumper_ | bzlag... hmmm too bad that is how it fells sometimes |
| 14:28.53 | jolie | moin Pimpinella |
| 14:29.05 | Pimpinella | couln't reproduce it myself yet |
| 14:29.09 | Pimpinella | hi jolie |
| 14:29.32 | Thumper_ | sniper_: just go play with people already one somewhere. (if we wanted to play we wouldn't be here) |
| 14:29.52 | sniper_ | hm oke |
| 14:29.53 | sniper_ | cu |
| 14:29.54 | orchid | Pimpinella: what coundown value? |
| 14:29.54 | Thumper_ | ...already on* somewhere... |
| 14:30.12 | Thumper_ | yay! :) |
| 14:30.18 | Aribeth | yay! |
| 14:30.30 | Pimpinella | usually used with default 10 seconds |
| 14:30.36 | Aribeth | we arnt mean are we? |
| 14:30.38 | Thumper_ | nah |
| 14:30.39 | Aribeth | lol |
| 14:30.46 | Pimpinella | hm, let me reduce time first |
| 14:30.49 | Thumper_ | just evil |
| 14:30.52 | Birdie | i'm there pimpinella |
| 14:30.53 | Aribeth | yep |
| 14:31.02 | Birdie | you may be evil against such people.. |
| 14:31.06 | Thumper_ | ~Aribeth++ |
| 14:31.15 | Aribeth | yay! |
| 14:31.15 | Thumper_ | ~sniper_-- |
| 14:31.23 | Aribeth | ouch |
| 14:31.26 | Aribeth | :P |
| 14:31.31 | Pimpinella | k, up again |
| 14:31.36 | orchid | Pimpinella: cant connect |
| 14:31.42 | Pimpinella | try now |
| 14:31.55 | Pimpinella | reduced time to 60 seconds |
| 14:32.18 | Birdie | i'm still there? |
| 14:46.40 | Pimpinella | ty orchid |
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| 15:21.26 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 15:22.04 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: gameOver must be false if we want to play a second game |
| 15:23.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: use snprintf instead of sprintf |
| 15:34.03 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, what are you changing? |
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| 15:42.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: ws |
| 15:43.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: ws |
| 15:46.36 | brlcad | Pimpinella: heh, if you're going to use snprintf, you have to add the n parameter :) |
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| 15:52.43 | sniper_ | hey again :) |
| 15:53.54 | sniper_ | Pimpinella: can i have a BzFlagClan Server on your computer? |
| 15:55.45 | sniper_ | P l e a s e :P |
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| 16:09.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 16:10.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: snprintf requires max buffer size |
| 16:11.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (TextChunkManager.cxx TextChunkManager.h): constify a bit |
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| 16:13.06 | ruskie | anyone looked for me? |
| 16:15.06 | CBG | would you like us to, ruskie? |
| 16:15.33 | ruskie | CBG, depends for what :) |
| 16:15.47 | CBG | o.O |
| 16:16.33 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
| 16:16.33 | CBG | JeffM2501: I see the new logo on the bb. I LIKE IT! :) |
| 16:16.46 | ruskie | time to spread some mayhem |
| 16:17.08 | BearPerson | :) |
| 16:19.02 | CBG | ~seen JeffM2501? |
| 16:19.12 | ibot | jeffm2501 is currently on #opencombat (10m 12s) #bzflag (10m 12s) #tacobeam (10m 12s) |
| 16:20.27 | Pimpinella | brlcad, JeffM2501, Chestal: yep, changed n in one work dir and buffer in another :(. at least i commited the right one... |
| 16:21.02 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: move common code for lagkick to function |
| 16:21.11 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella :) |
| 16:24.20 | JeffM2501 | CBG, saturos did it |
| 16:24.45 | CBG | JeffM2501: Yeah, you said he would. I like it more than the original and the official logos... |
| 16:24.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: use string literal concatenation instead of multilines with backslash |
| 16:25.11 | CBG | JeffM2501: But it stretches the forum out too wide for my window.... :( |
| 16:26.15 | JeffM2501 | get a bigger screen |
| 16:28.43 | CBG | JeffM2501: Gee... That won't be expensive at all... |
| 16:28.47 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: use potentially cheaper reference |
| 16:28.52 | JeffM2501 | your problem not mine :) |
| 16:30.23 | CBG | JeffM2501: Thanks for being so kind and considerate. :P |
| 16:30.48 | JeffM2501 | mores law is not a fickle beast |
| 16:30.55 | JeffM2501 | keep up or be left behind :) |
| 16:31.05 | CBG | :? |
| 16:31.12 | CBG | mores law? :S |
| 16:31.34 | JeffM2501 | rate of increase in computer technology |
| 16:31.41 | JeffM2501 | your display is what 1024? |
| 16:31.42 | Aribeth_away | google it |
| 16:32.15 | CBG | 1024 x 768, yes |
| 16:32.47 | JeffM2501 | sad |
| 16:32.51 | JeffM2501 | so very small |
| 16:32.56 | JeffM2501 | so very 90s |
| 16:32.59 | Aribeth_away | indeed |
| 16:33.01 | CBG | 12"... Its an iBook... |
| 16:33.10 | JeffM2501 | old hardware |
| 16:33.19 | JeffM2501 | it's allways going to have to adapt to the new |
| 16:33.22 | CBG | Look, I could either have an iBook, or nothing... |
| 16:33.27 | CBG | What would you have chosen? |
| 16:33.45 | JeffM2501 | vga port on the back of the lapy to ge higher res and dual head :) |
| 16:33.55 | JeffM2501 | and it's not allways as clear cut as you say |
| 16:33.55 | Aribeth_away | yep |
| 16:34.22 | CBG | what is "not allways as clear cut as you say" ? |
| 16:34.28 | JeffM2501 | "it" :) |
| 16:34.30 | JeffM2501 | life |
| 16:34.32 | JeffM2501 | the universe |
| 16:34.34 | JeffM2501 | events |
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| 16:34.47 | CBG | When did I say life was clear cut? |
| 16:34.49 | JeffM2501 | but if I was somehow forced to use a crap ibook, I'd deal with it |
| 16:34.59 | JeffM2501 | and not complain because I'd know I was using a crap ibook |
| 16:35.05 | JeffM2501 | you said ibook or nothing |
| 16:35.07 | solemnwarning | any1 know wtf happened to bladica |
| 16:35.10 | CBG | Yes... |
| 16:35.13 | solemnwarning | its been down for days |
| 16:35.20 | JeffM2501 | I doubt in reality if you follow all your paths out, it's not that cut and dry |
| 16:35.23 | CBG | solemnwarning: look at the bb. |
| 16:35.24 | JeffM2501 | solemnwarning, it's gone |
| 16:35.27 | solemnwarning | bb? |
| 16:35.36 | JeffM2501 | forums |
| 16:35.39 | solemnwarning | k |
| 16:35.46 | JeffM2501 | it is gone, taken down, bandwith costs |
| 16:36.27 | CBG | JeffM2501: At the time, the only laptop I could have had was this one. You want me to go back in time to when we went on holiday abroad when I was 6 and say: Don't go. Save your money so I can get a better laptop in 10 yrs time!" ...??? |
| 16:36.46 | Grumbler | uhmmm, JeffM2501 , thats a pretty ugly image for title |
| 16:36.57 | CBG | Grumbler: The bb logo? |
| 16:36.59 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, patches welcome |
| 16:37.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: delete looks strange with the () |
| 16:37.21 | Grumbler | nothing was wrong with the old one |
| 16:37.30 | Grumbler | so the patch already exists |
| 16:37.47 | JeffM2501 | the blue tank? |
| 16:37.49 | solemnwarning | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:37.52 | JeffM2501 | the blue tank was horible |
| 16:38.08 | Chestal | JeffM2501: does it make sense to cleanup the ws in bzfsAPI.cxx or are you going to mess it up again anyways? :-) |
| 16:38.10 | solemnwarning | bladicas isp sucks if it pays by bandwidth |
| 16:38.28 | jolie | who knows java here? |
| 16:38.33 | JeffM2501 | all ISPs charge bandwith solemnwarnin |
| 16:38.37 | JeffM2501 | for REAL isps |
| 16:38.40 | JeffM2501 | not the crap you get at home |
| 16:38.45 | JeffM2501 | he was on a real datacenter |
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| 16:39.04 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, it's clean |
| 16:39.08 | JeffM2501 | just not in your way :) |
| 16:39.14 | Chestal | JeffM2501: not in the bz way :-) |
| 16:39.31 | Chestal | at least it's consistently wrong, so I won't touch it |
| 16:39.43 | JeffM2501 | I wish to make the rest of the code eventualy real clean |
| 16:39.48 | JeffM2501 | just because it's BZ dosn't mean it's right |
| 16:40.23 | Chestal | well, that would mean to change DEVINFO etc. |
| 16:40.40 | Chestal | not that I am a big fan of the current tab setup |
| 16:40.43 | JeffM2501 | oh no.... the horror.. a change to a FILE |
| 16:41.11 | Chestal | I wouldn't assume there is a consensus here on what to change it to |
| 16:41.30 | JeffM2501 | exactly why I just went and did it my way :) |
| 16:41.38 | JeffM2501 | I can't abide by the if () { thing |
| 16:41.41 | JeffM2501 | on the same line |
| 16:41.46 | Chestal | vi and emacs users wouldn't care I guess because of the formatting hints |
| 16:42.05 | CBG | JeffM2501: Just for the record: I had no choice of other laptops. It was this or nothing. And I'm not complaining, just pointing out that the logo makes the forum quite wide and people (like me) with small screens will have to scroll. :) |
| 16:42.17 | JeffM2501 | that would be a complaint :) |
| 16:42.47 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, vi and emacs won't be a problem when I take over and crush all infedels ;) |
| 16:42.53 | Chestal | I get a horizontalscroll bar, too, but why scroll? there's nothing important to see there anyway |
| 16:43.11 | CBG | No JeffM2501: That would be a statement. |
| 16:43.21 | JeffM2501 | complaints are a class of statement |
| 16:43.39 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, what do you not like about said thing, or do you just wishing to add a grumble? |
| 16:43.48 | CBG | Doesnt mean that every statement is a complaint, jeffm2501. |
| 16:43.55 | JeffM2501 | this is true |
| 16:43.58 | JeffM2501 | but that one was |
| 16:44.02 | Aribeth_away | interesting logo |
| 16:44.04 | CBG | No. T'was not. |
| 16:44.11 | JeffM2501 | it seemed like one |
| 16:44.25 | CBG | Then you took it the wrong way. |
| 16:44.31 | JeffM2501 | fair nuf |
| 16:44.41 | Grumbler | well....since you ask. |
| 16:45.16 | CBG | Try this end of the stick...: I was *pointing out* that it made the forum wider than before and it may mean some people with smaller screens need to scroll. |
| 16:45.21 | Grumbler | the image content is such, that shrunk to that size makes it look cheap and sloppy |
| 16:45.30 | JeffM2501 | well in general it's good to back up your critisizms |
| 16:45.57 | Grumbler | blown up to a full background, it might look ok......similar tot he saturos image thingy |
| 16:46.21 | Grumbler | also, the color base clashes with the grey-blue forum colors |
| 16:46.34 | JeffM2501 | the green blue clash I agree on |
| 16:46.55 | Grumbler | also, its oval, and the rest of the forum is linear, again a clash |
| 16:47.13 | JeffM2501 | the oval sat did |
| 16:47.14 | CBG | I disagree: but since I have a small ibook, I shouldn't even be here... :S |
| 16:47.38 | Grumbler | thats my grumbles |
| 16:48.12 | Grumbler | ....and if i ever get better at this fireworks thingy, i might be able to help |
| 16:48.26 | Grumbler | ...first i have to finish my corporate site though |
| 16:49.04 | JeffM2501 | well if you'd like post your comments on the board to saturos he's making the thigns for us |
| 16:49.09 | JeffM2501 | we have talked about changing the theme too |
| 16:49.19 | JeffM2501 | to match better |
| 16:49.29 | CBG | JeffM2501: SPAM Alert, Post 2 Here: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4006&highlight= |
| 16:49.59 | JeffM2501 | CBG, spam is more then one post |
| 16:50.11 | CBG | Its still a waste of space. |
| 16:50.15 | JeffM2501 | no it's not |
| 16:50.21 | JeffM2501 | not if you know the history of the post |
| 16:50.28 | JeffM2501 | the post USED to say |
| 16:50.34 | JeffM2501 | that he had the same problem |
| 16:50.34 | *** join/#bzflag SC (sportygali@67-21-174-30.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 16:50.45 | CBG | I dont give a dam what it USED to say. |
| 16:50.51 | CBG | I never saw what it USED to say. |
| 16:50.56 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 16:51.02 | JeffM2501 | so what and chickend offends you? |
| 16:51.03 | CBG | All I see is what it says now and its a waste of my time reading it. |
| 16:51.07 | JeffM2501 | then don't read it |
| 16:51.19 | JeffM2501 | 90% of the posts are a waste of time |
| 16:51.31 | CBG | not as much as that... |
| 16:51.33 | Grumbler | 94.3% actually |
| 16:51.35 | JeffM2501 | what do you want me todo about it? |
| 16:51.37 | CBG | what relevance is it to bz? |
| 16:51.52 | CBG | what relevence is it to the topic? |
| 16:51.56 | JeffM2501 | nothing |
| 16:52.01 | CBG | precisly. |
| 16:52.07 | JeffM2501 | he just removed his posting because he got his problem fixed |
| 16:52.12 | JeffM2501 | hence the IGNORE ME part |
| 16:52.21 | CBG | Then whats the deal with the post underneath??? |
| 16:52.31 | JeffM2501 | he didn't edit that one |
| 16:52.39 | CBG | so he made 2? |
| 16:52.40 | JeffM2501 | still what would you like me to do about it? |
| 16:52.45 | JeffM2501 | yes he made 2 |
| 16:52.46 | CBG | Remove it. |
| 16:52.49 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 16:52.54 | CBG | why not? |
| 16:52.57 | JeffM2501 | you'r never going back in that forum |
| 16:53.07 | JeffM2501 | why should i waste my time for somthing you'll never see again |
| 16:53.10 | JeffM2501 | deal with it |
| 16:53.25 | CBG | why dont you ever DEAL with something? |
| 16:53.28 | JeffM2501 | I mean crap it's 1 like |
| 16:53.35 | CBG | think about the GREATER GOOD. |
| 16:53.40 | CBG | Ever heard of that? |
| 16:53.47 | JeffM2501 | becuse it's not my job to make the world conform to your idea of how it should be |
| 16:53.50 | CBG | Its where you could do something to help EVERYONE who visits the bb. |
| 16:53.59 | JeffM2501 | CBG, is your good the greater one? |
| 16:54.02 | BearPerson | except for that one poster |
| 16:54.11 | BearPerson | nicely said, JeffM2501 |
| 16:54.19 | JeffM2501 | who's to say YOU are right? |
| 16:54.24 | CBG | You think everyone else wants to waste their time reading THAT? |
| 16:54.32 | JeffM2501 | noone else has complained |
| 16:54.37 | JeffM2501 | so it dosn't bother them |
| 16:55.09 | brlcad | there are much more important things to deal with than trolls and post and busy work like that |
| 16:55.16 | JeffM2501 | you allways expect to get your way CBG? |
| 16:55.23 | JeffM2501 | if so you are sadly in the wrong place |
| 16:55.29 | CBG | No. I expect spam/wasted posts to be removed. |
| 16:55.35 | JeffM2501 | the real world that rarely happens, perhaps you shoudl go back to your fantasy world |
| 16:55.36 | *** join/#bzflag sniper_ (~sniper_@82.137.26.35) |
| 16:55.53 | JeffM2501 | CBG, the thread will die, and in the end my deleting it will have 0 effect on anything |
| 16:55.53 | sniper_ | hii |
| 16:56.05 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you need to think in biger terms |
| 16:56.19 | sniper_ | any one wants to play?LoL |
| 16:56.43 | sniper_ | PM me ;-P |
| 16:56.48 | JeffM2501 | it's not like we need backseat admins |
| 16:57.11 | sniper_ | JeffM2051, do u have a server? |
| 16:57.25 | JeffM2501 | I have many servers |
| 16:57.30 | JeffM2501 | that do many things |
| 16:57.41 | JeffM2501 | a perminant bzflag server is not one of them |
| 16:57.44 | sniper_ | a BZFlag Server! |
| 16:58.09 | JeffM2501 | CBG, yeah, users pointing out tiny little things they think are infractions |
| 16:58.19 | sniper_ | JeffM2501, well, can u make me a bzflag srv ? |
| 16:58.27 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, no |
| 16:58.31 | brlcad | sniper_: you're not sniper-50 I take it |
| 16:58.32 | JeffM2501 | well unless |
| 16:58.38 | CBG | It was a request. In the UK you are allowed to atleast ASK. |
| 16:58.38 | JeffM2501 | how much you willing to pay for it? |
| 16:58.43 | jolie | hah |
| 16:58.52 | sniper_ | JeffM2501, i dont pay , im under 15 |
| 16:58.55 | JeffM2501 | CBG, yes you are, and you did, and I listened |
| 16:58.58 | CBG | sniper_: what OS? |
| 16:59.02 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, somone has to pay for the bandwith |
| 16:59.03 | brlcad | ahh, then you definately are not, never mind |
| 16:59.11 | sniper_ | Linux/Winodws what ever u have |
| 16:59.13 | CBG | JeffM2501: Then dont call me a backsat admin. |
| 16:59.22 | sniper_ | i have windows now |
| 16:59.24 | sniper_ | :P |
| 16:59.26 | *** join/#bzflag Teppic (~Teppic@81.105.18.239) |
| 16:59.31 | JeffM2501 | CBG, why not, int he US we can make comments about our opionins on peoiple |
| 16:59.40 | CBG | You want me to run a server on my machine, For You? |
| 16:59.58 | CBG | Then I think JeffM2501 is a moron. |
| 17:00.02 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, running a server is a big thing, just asking people you don't know generaly dosn't cut it |
| 17:00.02 | sniper_ | CBG, yes ;) |
| 17:00.13 | CBG | sniper_: grow up. :( |
| 17:00.19 | sniper_ | grow up ? |
| 17:00.23 | JeffM2501 | CBG, I know you think that, I have known you think that for a long while |
| 17:00.31 | CBG | Oh no no no. |
| 17:00.32 | jolie | guys... |
| 17:00.33 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, you can't just waltz in and ask |
| 17:00.42 | CBG | I didnt think that... Untill now. :P |
| 17:01.00 | JeffM2501 | so the other times you said it you were untruthfull? |
| 17:01.20 | CBG | I never called you a moron before. |
| 17:01.23 | JeffM2501 | I recall a macintosh converstaion where you called me worse |
| 17:01.30 | sniper_ | JeffM , ok |
| 17:01.40 | CBG | worse maybe |
| 17:01.47 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, what are you looking for, just somone to host your map? or what? |
| 17:01.52 | CBG | but never have i called you a Moron. |
| 17:01.59 | sniper_ | for someone to host server |
| 17:02.05 | sniper_ | i will get a map soon ;) |
| 17:02.09 | JeffM2501 | many people host servers |
| 17:02.15 | sniper_ | hm 4 free? |
| 17:02.17 | JeffM2501 | what is wrong with the ones that are out there? |
| 17:02.27 | sniper_ | theyr hosting 4 free? |
| 17:02.29 | JeffM2501 | all servers cost money somehow |
| 17:02.31 | CBG | My perceptions of people update everytime they do/say anything that I know about... |
| 17:02.35 | JeffM2501 | the owners chose to pay it |
| 17:02.35 | Aribeth_away | not free shiper_ |
| 17:02.51 | sniper_ | k |
| 17:02.56 | JeffM2501 | what are you looking for that is difrent then the existing servers sniper_ ? |
| 17:03.11 | sniper_ | no |
| 17:03.18 | brlcad | CBG: in terms of constructive cricisms and level contribution, you have nearly zero credits here and your burning what very little you might have had with this petty line of discussion |
| 17:03.22 | JeffM2501 | no what? |
| 17:03.33 | brlcad | especially in comparison to what JeffM2501 has and does contribute |
| 17:03.39 | CBG | brlcad: Thanks for that. |
| 17:03.52 | sniper_ | no , what im lookin 4 is not different than the existing servers |
| 17:04.15 | CBG | sniper_ so whats the point? :S |
| 17:04.18 | JeffM2501 | then the existing server will work fine for you right sniper_? |
| 17:04.29 | sniper_ | yea |
| 17:04.39 | JeffM2501 | so what do you need somone to host a server for you then? |
| 17:04.45 | sniper_ | yea |
| 17:04.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah what? |
| 17:05.03 | sniper_ | yeah what i need is someone to host a server for me |
| 17:05.14 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you can allways speak your mind, just don't asume anyone will agree with you. |
| 17:05.18 | Aribeth_away | ROFLMAO! |
| 17:05.27 | CBG | I didn't... |
| 17:05.31 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, why if the existing ones will do what you want? |
| 17:05.43 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, do you just want to be an amin? |
| 17:06.00 | sniper_ | an admin , and to have a server for my clan |
| 17:06.11 | sniper_ | http://www.unitedtronersclan.tk |
| 17:06.12 | Aribeth_away | clan??? |
| 17:06.17 | JeffM2501 | team |
| 17:06.17 | sniper_ | yea a clan ;) |
| 17:06.23 | sniper_ | a team |
| 17:06.23 | JeffM2501 | old quake term |
| 17:06.24 | Aribeth_away | ahh |
| 17:06.39 | JeffM2501 | then ether get in good with a server owner who will pay for a server for you |
| 17:06.42 | JeffM2501 | or host one yourself |
| 17:07.04 | sniper_ | well, i haved a hoster b4 at my bro's comp but wasnt anytime online... |
| 17:07.06 | sniper_ | and |
| 17:07.30 | sniper_ | he wont let me now because his computer is really bad because its restarting |
| 17:07.37 | JeffM2501 | ok then that's your problem |
| 17:07.41 | sniper_ | yea ;) |
| 17:07.46 | JeffM2501 | just asking for somone to give you a host is stupid |
| 17:07.48 | JeffM2501 | noone knows you |
| 17:07.55 | sniper_ | :) :P |
| 17:07.58 | JeffM2501 | the more you bug people about it the less peopel will want to help |
| 17:08.04 | JeffM2501 | so go host one yourself |
| 17:08.13 | JeffM2501 | or talk to people with bandwith and get to know them |
| 17:08.16 | sniper_ | ToughShooter,Thumper_,Cods knows me |
| 17:08.24 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, which thread is saturos handling this?.....hard tell with all the carp in there |
| 17:08.28 | cods | hmm ? |
| 17:08.33 | sniper_ | >o) |
| 17:08.41 | sniper_ | Cods, i know u, im cristi |
| 17:08.41 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, I'd start a new one? |
| 17:08.43 | sniper_ | remember me ? |
| 17:08.58 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, ok then ask them to host something for you |
| 17:09.06 | sniper_ | Yep! |
| 17:09.09 | JeffM2501 | if they like you enough to pay for the bandwith |
| 17:09.11 | JeffM2501 | they will |
| 17:09.18 | JeffM2501 | but coming in an asking a general channel..... |
| 17:09.22 | Grumbler | ok |
| 17:09.25 | JeffM2501 | when all you want to do is be an admin for some reason |
| 17:09.27 | sniper_ | yea.. |
| 17:09.36 | sniper_ | Cods, you remember me ? |
| 17:09.49 | sniper_ | JeffM, yes |
| 17:09.51 | sniper_ | ;) |
| 17:10.18 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, they are rarely on IRC these days |
| 17:10.40 | sniper_ | k :( |
| 17:10.50 | sniper_ | but onwhat servers i can be admin |
| 17:10.59 | sniper_ | what server is hosting Pimpi ? |
| 17:11.06 | brlcad | ahh, christi, that explains it some |
| 17:11.13 | JeffM2501 | Pimpi hosts himself |
| 17:11.23 | sniper_ | i know |
| 17:11.27 | sniper_ | whats his server name ? |
| 17:11.31 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, you have to ask server owners in private if you can be admin |
| 17:11.36 | JeffM2501 | and they have to know you and trust you |
| 17:11.41 | sniper_ | ok :) |
| 17:11.46 | brlcad | and if you have to ask, that's not a good sign |
| 17:11.52 | brlcad | they'll generally ask you |
| 17:11.58 | sniper_ | ;) |
| 17:11.59 | sniper_ | ok |
| 17:12.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah, if you have to ask to be an admin, then you shouldn't be one |
| 17:12.08 | Aribeth_away | asking to be admin on my server will disqualify you automaticaly |
| 17:12.16 | sniper_ | :) |
| 17:12.19 | JeffM2501 | I know many places that require age 17 or older to be admin |
| 17:12.25 | brlcad | Aribeth_away: can I be an admin on your server? |
| 17:12.32 | sniper_ | :)))) |
| 17:12.35 | Aribeth_away | ROFLOL! |
| 17:12.40 | sniper_ | brlcad, ur disqualified ;))) |
| 17:12.48 | sniper_ | muahaha rofl |
| 17:12.50 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, dude, just add yourself to her group :) |
| 17:12.57 | Aribeth_away | hehe |
| 17:13.04 | JeffM2501 | we don't have to "ask", we can just "be" ;) |
| 17:13.23 | JeffM2501 | ok so have learner do it :) |
| 17:13.27 | brlcad | hehe |
| 17:13.31 | jolie | yeah pm learner |
| 17:13.33 | Aribeth_away | hehe |
| 17:13.40 | JeffM2501 | I think spldart and thumper added devs as admins on there servers yesterday |
| 17:13.41 | sniper_ | does learner have his server? |
| 17:13.59 | JeffM2501 | no learner can't run computers, since the "inncedent" |
| 17:14.04 | JeffM2501 | brlcad is the server owner |
| 17:14.10 | JeffM2501 | they are "life partners" |
| 17:14.24 | Aribeth_away | ROFLMAO! again!!! |
| 17:14.25 | brlcad | :) |
| 17:14.31 | sniper_ | ;) friends or are in the same family? |
| 17:14.41 | Aribeth_away | you could say that |
| 17:14.42 | JeffM2501 | they are special friends |
| 17:14.44 | JeffM2501 | very very special |
| 17:14.48 | JeffM2501 | very very close |
| 17:14.50 | jolie | extremly special |
| 17:14.52 | brlcad | he's not my friend |
| 17:14.59 | sniper_ | :)) ok |
| 17:15.01 | JeffM2501 | yet you sleep with him |
| 17:15.13 | brlcad | why do you think he's not my friend :) |
| 17:15.18 | sniper_ | ROFL |
| 17:15.23 | jolie | ahh the denial |
| 17:15.39 | brlcad | makes me go sleep when I don't want to |
| 17:15.48 | brlcad | unproductive bastage |
| 17:15.51 | sniper_ | brlcad, can i be admin on your server?:P |
| 17:15.52 | sniper_ | lets see the reaction :P |
| 17:15.52 | *** join/#bzflag crko (~jan@cmb27-47.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 17:16.07 | JeffM2501 | it's a love hate thing |
| 17:16.13 | sniper_ | lol |
| 17:16.15 | brlcad | sniper_: sure, go ahead so long as I don't have to do anything |
| 17:16.28 | sniper_ | :) |
| 17:16.37 | sniper_ | brlcad: so i can be admin on your server? |
| 17:16.41 | Aribeth_away | but dont let learner know |
| 17:16.56 | Aribeth_away | :P |
| 17:17.01 | brlcad | sniper_: you can be a pink bunny on my server for all I care |
| 17:17.06 | sniper_ | my nick on bzflag is sniperiid |
| 17:17.06 | sniper_ | :) |
| 17:17.07 | Thumper_ | lol |
| 17:17.18 | jolie | hey watch out with the bunny |
| 17:17.21 | JeffM2501 | sniper_, that would mean he would have to do something |
| 17:17.27 | JeffM2501 | using your username |
| 17:17.50 | sniperiid | ok .. but my pasword |
| 17:17.54 | sniperiid | i can rename it in any moment ;) |
| 17:18.15 | brlcad | rename it to "tool" and I'll see what happens |
| 17:18.23 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, he was screwing with you saying you can "be" what ever you want, as long you don't make him do ANYTHING |
| 17:18.25 | Aribeth | hahahahaaaa |
| 17:18.33 | sniperiid | k |
| 17:18.41 | sniperiid | wait 1 min |
| 17:18.54 | JeffM2501 | wow he's so dumb, that's like mean |
| 17:18.58 | brlcad | hmm.. too subtle for the youngin' |
| 17:19.00 | brlcad | shame on me |
| 17:19.04 | JeffM2501 | kids these days |
| 17:19.21 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, dude, your not going to be admin, just run your own server |
| 17:19.29 | sniperiid | lol |
| 17:19.30 | sniperiid | :P |
| 17:19.44 | sniperiid | im going to be admin on my server if i would make my server |
| 17:19.44 | sniperiid | ;) |
| 17:19.53 | Grumbler | done |
| 17:19.56 | JeffM2501 | and that would be the only place you'd be it |
| 17:19.58 | sniperiid | brlcad, so u make me admin or make me server? |
| 17:19.59 | Aribeth | the word is if |
| 17:19.59 | brlcad | sniperiid: don't you pay no mind.. you can be whatever you want to be if you put your mind to it |
| 17:20.12 | Aribeth | poof you a server |
| 17:20.45 | sniperiid | k brlcad |
| 17:20.45 | Aribeth | lol |
| 17:20.55 | sniperiid | whats ur host : port ? |
| 17:20.59 | sniperiid | bzflag serve |
| 17:21.01 | sniperiid | r |
| 17:21.02 | sniperiid | please |
| 17:21.14 | brlcad | if you build it, they will come |
| 17:21.22 | Aribeth | i'll never tell |
| 17:21.26 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, every thought of hijacking the bzflag.de banner image....would need a color exchange but its pretty decent |
| 17:21.45 | JeffM2501 | didn't saturos make that one too? |
| 17:21.52 | Grumbler | not sure |
| 17:21.53 | sniperiid | brlcad, well, i cant make server |
| 17:21.56 | sniperiid | u make me one? |
| 17:21.57 | brlcad | sniperiid: my server is on 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:21.59 | Grumbler | i think so though |
| 17:22.10 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, dude that's mean |
| 17:22.17 | sniperiid | brlcad, ok , this means localhost , but ur ip? |
| 17:22.19 | Grumbler | brlcad, ug |
| 17:22.19 | brlcad | JeffM2501: but but .. it's true :) |
| 17:22.23 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 17:22.30 | JeffM2501 | tho are you at home or work? |
| 17:22.50 | brlcad | yes. :) |
| 17:22.51 | Grumbler | i guess you could have said 192.168.1.1 |
| 17:23.01 | JeffM2501 | that is only on some lans |
| 17:23.12 | Grumbler | but it is even more evil |
| 17:23.13 | JeffM2501 | mine is 192.168.8.110 |
| 17:23.18 | brlcad | remotely logged in to a server where bzfs is 127.0.0.1 ;) |
| 17:23.27 | sniperiid | mine is 192.168.0.3 :) |
| 17:23.34 | sniperiid | 0.1 is my brother |
| 17:23.41 | Thumper_ | sniperiid give it up already. |
| 17:23.45 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, then why do you need somone to host a server for you |
| 17:23.52 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, yes it is geting REALY old |
| 17:24.03 | brlcad | JeffM2501: we've been through this before with "cristi" |
| 17:24.05 | sniperiid | Thumper_: what ? |
| 17:24.10 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, ok |
| 17:24.12 | brlcad | the connection can't hold more than 3 players |
| 17:24.13 | JeffM2501 | then it's time to end it |
| 17:24.20 | sniperiid | k i know |
| 17:24.42 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, I'm basicly turning over logo design to saturos |
| 17:24.48 | JeffM2501 | I don't want to deal with it anymore |
| 17:25.16 | Grumbler | heh, sry to hear it was such a chore.....but it does seem that saturos is da'man |
| 17:25.28 | JeffM2501 | he is a good artist |
| 17:25.44 | Grumbler | i'll find something wrong with it ;) |
| 17:26.14 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@host-84-222-138-82.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 17:26.45 | brlcad | http://hatethefrog.desktopcreatures.com/index.asp?q=crazy+frog |
| 17:27.14 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, I'm sure you will |
| 17:27.23 | Birdie | brclad: i saw this 2hours ago:), i get 93 m |
| 17:27.26 | *** join/#bzflag noyb_ (~noyb@pool-71-108-85-69.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 17:27.35 | sniperiid | brlcad, that nokia!!!!!!!! is my brother's phone ;)) |
| 17:27.39 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, I'll finish the new ranks some days, but it's good to have some help on some stuff |
| 17:27.46 | sniperiid | Nokia 6600 ;) |
| 17:28.57 | brlcad | 92 is best score though |
| 17:29.20 | Birdie | http://www.addictinggames.com/kittencannon.html |
| 17:29.21 | Birdie | try this |
| 17:30.49 | Birdie | and beat 1956:) |
| 17:34.26 | Tupone | 92.5 :) |
| 17:35.17 | Birdie | 93 is still the winner |
| 17:36.39 | Grumbler | 90 |
| 17:37.54 | Birdie | i love the song its playing when you got far |
| 17:40.46 | Grumbler | but did you draw a pig |
| 17:41.54 | Grumbler | ...dang, i knew i should have made t hat tail larger |
| 17:44.01 | *** join/#bzflag crko (~jan@cmb27-47.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 17:46.56 | ruskie | hmm I get my kitten to 1630 :) |
| 17:47.03 | ruskie | then he get's eaten :( |
| 17:48.07 | Birdie | the kitty is hard |
| 17:48.17 | Birdie | i think i killed allready 100 kittys to get that 1956 |
| 17:48.31 | ruskie | Birdie, do you know at what angle I go that far? |
| 17:48.40 | Grumbler | is birdie getting revenge on the cats? |
| 17:48.54 | Birdie | 42.5 i think |
| 17:48.57 | Birdie | and LOL for grumbler:) |
| 17:49.04 | ruskie | Birdie, 10 |
| 17:49.12 | Birdie | 10?:s |
| 17:49.14 | ruskie | yup |
| 17:49.15 | ruskie | 10 |
| 17:49.18 | ruskie | and max power |
| 17:50.01 | Pimpinella | sniperiid: i don't host clanservers (exept for my ow team of course) |
| 17:51.01 | Pimpinella | i'msorry |
| 17:51.17 | ruskie | hmmm nice 1400 exact |
| 17:51.50 | Pimpinella | ruskie: is lag better now? |
| 17:52.34 | ruskie | Pimpinella, no clue... rebuilding dri since I updated my kernel |
| 17:53.30 | ruskie | hmm nice 1795 |
| 17:53.39 | ruskie | hmm forgot to submit... |
| 17:54.02 | Birdie | i have a screanshot of mine |
| 17:54.14 | Birdie | so people would at least believe me:) |
| 17:55.06 | ruskie | Birdie, screenshots can be faked :) |
| 17:55.42 | Birdie | not that one:( |
| 17:56.10 | ruskie | guess what I just got |
| 17:56.25 | ruskie | for the range |
| 17:56.25 | CBG | life? |
| 17:56.37 | CBG | I've been trying to get life since I was born :( |
| 17:56.42 | Birdie | dont say you have more distance than my kitty:( |
| 17:56.45 | CBG | no luck yet: got any hints? |
| 17:56.50 | ruskie | 2215 |
| 17:56.54 | ruskie | *g* |
| 17:56.54 | Birdie | :( |
| 17:57.00 | Birdie | you screanshotfaker:) |
| 17:57.01 | *** join/#bzflag crko (jan@crko.user) |
| 17:57.16 | ruskie | angle 40 |
| 17:57.19 | brlcad | we played kittie a couple months ago..forget my score |
| 17:58.09 | sniperiid | Pimpinella: ok but a server for me ? |
| 17:58.13 | sniperiid | ;) |
| 17:58.27 | Birdie | he allready gave an answer |
| 17:58.47 | CBG | sniperlid: nobody will host a server for you for free. stop bugging everybody. |
| 17:59.01 | sniperiid | CBG: LOL!\ |
| 17:59.12 | sniperiid | Birdie: lol.. i know |
| 17:59.12 | CBG | I was being deadly serious... :/ |
| 17:59.16 | BearPerson | okay, friends will I think |
| 17:59.29 | Birdie | sniperiid: so stop asking |
| 17:59.31 | BearPerson | but just asking people isn't making friends too quickly ;-) |
| 17:59.58 | sniperiid | lol ;P |
| 18:00.35 | ruskie | BearPerson, saw the labyrinth with added floors and some flags? |
| 18:00.45 | BearPerson | hmm, not yet |
| 18:00.52 | BearPerson | is it up currently? |
| 18:00.54 | ruskie | mages.ath.cx:5154 |
| 18:00.57 | Aribeth | i think he likes razzing everyone |
| 18:01.10 | Birdie | a second yugi |
| 18:01.12 | BearPerson | who? |
| 18:01.31 | Aribeth | sniper |
| 18:02.50 | sniperiid | ;))) |
| 18:02.57 | sniperiid | i joined on mages.ath.cx;5154 |
| 18:02.58 | sniperiid | :) |
| 18:03.00 | sniperiid | its kool |
| 18:03.05 | sniperiid | but now i left |
| 18:03.23 | Aribeth | oh GOD! |
| 18:03.59 | CBG | whats the deal with all th OO flags? |
| 18:04.04 | sniperiid | Anyone knows how to do port forwarding on windows? |
| 18:04.15 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, it depends on your router |
| 18:04.16 | CBG | sniperlid: ask google |
| 18:04.45 | sniperiid | JeffM2501, well... i do Microsoft Connection Sharing.. my brother set up his computer as a router... |
| 18:04.59 | sniperiid | my bro do ICS ( internet connection sharing ) |
| 18:05.02 | sniperiid | * |
| 18:05.13 | ruskie | CBG, OO flags? |
| 18:05.26 | ruskie | there's only 2 |
| 18:05.30 | CBG | wtf? |
| 18:05.42 | CBG | I tried 4 times and everytime the first and only flag I got was OO |
| 18:05.51 | CBG | and once you get it you cant get rid of it |
| 18:05.55 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, ewww. betst of luck then |
| 18:06.03 | sniperiid | OO = Osclation Overtruster? |
| 18:06.10 | ruskie | CBG, ahh that would be a bug... |
| 18:06.11 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, hit F1 and read the help, we arn't a networking support channel |
| 18:06.17 | sniperiid | k |
| 18:06.20 | sniperiid | did u know one ? |
| 18:06.30 | brlcad | ahh |
| 18:06.41 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, google |
| 18:06.44 | brlcad | dtremenak "won" |
| 18:06.46 | brlcad | 17:11:08: DTRemenak: 2195 ft :) |
| 18:06.46 | sniperiid | l |
| 18:06.48 | sniperiid | ok |
| 18:06.52 | ruskie | CBG, try again... |
| 18:06.56 | CBG | ok :) |
| 18:07.01 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, aka, start thinking for yourself |
| 18:07.04 | brlcad | not quite as much as ruskie |
| 18:07.11 | ruskie | brlcad? |
| 18:07.13 | ruskie | ahh |
| 18:07.22 | Birdie | brclad: thx for your searching job, i didnt knew that kitty thing allready went here:( |
| 18:07.46 | sniperiid | JeffM, ok :) thanks for no help ;) |
| 18:07.53 | brlcad | heh, np.. i was just curious was the prior "best" was :) |
| 18:07.58 | ruskie | Aribeth, no they can't sadly... |
| 18:08.11 | Birdie | depends who you are talking about |
| 18:08.13 | brlcad | Bagheera started it last time ;) |
| 18:08.19 | CBG | ruskie: better |
| 18:08.24 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:08.24 | Birdie | you would be surprised how mature some kids of 10 11 can be |
| 18:08.36 | Grumbler | that guy is always causing trouble |
| 18:08.38 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, we can';t help you with all things |
| 18:08.39 | CBG | Its a great map too :D |
| 18:08.39 | ruskie | rgw ground floor was 1 thick |
| 18:08.43 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:08.44 | ruskie | tnx |
| 18:08.46 | sniperiid | JeffM, ok :) |
| 18:08.52 | ruskie | still missing a lot |
| 18:08.58 | ruskie | the floors will be redefined |
| 18:09.06 | orchid | http://www.bowkera.com/images/Dolby%20Years/Dolby%20Bowker%20System%2036.jpg |
| 18:09.21 | ruskie | and of course all the suprises need to get in as well |
| 18:09.43 | CBG | world weaps? |
| 18:10.02 | ruskie | sw mines, laser coridors... geno gun.... |
| 18:10.12 | ruskie | some phys objects as well |
| 18:10.13 | CBG | hehe - you could get hold of a model of a tank and stick it somewhere |
| 18:10.23 | CBG | so you come around the corner and think its gonna shoot ya :D |
| 18:10.24 | ruskie | I want a false_base |
| 18:10.30 | JeffM2501 | there are obj files for the tank around |
| 18:10.44 | ruskie | since there would be a false base on each level |
| 18:10.47 | CBG | for the false base, make a meshbox and use the base material |
| 18:10.55 | ruskie | ohh |
| 18:11.29 | ruskie | still thinking if it should be 2 team or 4 team |
| 18:11.43 | CBG | hmm... could be either. |
| 18:11.57 | ruskie | could be even 12 team :)) |
| 18:12.07 | CBG | maybe it would be better FFA. with CTF you could hide team flags so easily... |
| 18:12.23 | ruskie | not really |
| 18:12.31 | CBG | There is no radar... |
| 18:12.37 | ruskie | true |
| 18:12.46 | ruskie | but there is only one safe zone... guarded by a geno gun :) |
| 18:12.56 | brlcad | orchid: is that the new Debian release on a floppy? :) |
| 18:12.58 | CBG | oh. thats ok then :D |
| 18:13.21 | ruskie | and the purpose is to go hide and seek :) |
| 18:13.42 | sniperiid | who maked that server with ' The labyrinth by ruskie' ? |
| 18:13.58 | CBG | ruskie did. lol |
| 18:14.00 | ruskie | -srvmsg "The Labyrinth by ruskie" |
| 18:14.06 | ruskie | and -admsg as well :) |
| 18:14.11 | sniperiid | ;) |
| 18:14.16 | sniperiid | ruskie , u do the server? |
| 18:14.18 | Aribeth | thats the new and improved IBM PC |
| 18:14.19 | sniperiid | , i mean not the map |
| 18:14.24 | sniperiid | the srv |
| 18:14.24 | Thumper_ | no santi claus did |
| 18:14.34 | ruskie | but this is only my testbed bzflag server |
| 18:14.45 | ruskie | the real one is bzflag.dtdm.org:5154 |
| 18:14.51 | ruskie | or is that .net |
| 18:14.52 | Aribeth | the server made it. they are smart these days |
| 18:14.56 | Birdie | !praise orchid |
| 18:15.08 | sniperiid | k ruskie, we can talk on PM ? |
| 18:15.24 | ruskie | you can try... |
| 18:15.26 | sniperiid | k |
| 18:15.31 | orchid | brlcad: yeap, 250 floppys |
| 18:15.36 | orchid | ty guu |
| 18:15.36 | guu | I don't have a clue. |
| 18:15.51 | sniperiid | :)) |
| 18:15.56 | Birdie | isnt guu sweet |
| 18:16.09 | CBG | guu is soo stupid |
| 18:16.15 | sniperiid | guu is a bot |
| 18:16.17 | CBG | guu: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command). |
| 18:16.17 | guu | But Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command), CBG. |
| 18:16.21 | CBG | ROFL |
| 18:16.28 | CBG | see? STUPID |
| 18:16.59 | sniperiid | guu is a bot |
| 18:17.01 | sniperiid | guu is stupid! |
| 18:17.12 | CBG | wow? guu is a bot? :O |
| 18:17.16 | sniperiid | yea |
| 18:17.24 | JeffM2501 | sniperiid, you have problem withg uu? |
| 18:17.28 | sniperiid | nopr |
| 18:17.31 | CBG | wll blow me down and call me momma! |
| 18:17.33 | sniperiid | just tolding user |
| 18:17.36 | JeffM2501 | you called her stupid |
| 18:17.37 | sniperiid | useres * |
| 18:17.39 | JeffM2501 | tolding? |
| 18:17.43 | sniperiid | telling * |
| 18:17.56 | JeffM2501 | they know what guu is |
| 18:18.36 | sniperiid | JeffM, i called her stupid cos of: 10[21:16] guu: 01Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command). |
| 18:18.40 | sniperiid | and gived me 3 messages of this |
| 18:19.23 | JeffM2501 | well you are not registered |
| 18:19.29 | JeffM2501 | so it is a correct error message |
| 18:19.43 | JeffM2501 | you atempted to an action that requires registation |
| 18:20.02 | Birdie | somethimes i have the same though, guu tells me that, although i'(m registered and identified |
| 18:20.19 | JeffM2501 | it's registered with GUU |
| 18:20.22 | JeffM2501 | not with nickserv |
| 18:20.29 | jolie | hahah |
| 18:20.44 | Birdie | ah oops |
| 18:20.45 | Birdie | :/ |
| 18:21.25 | JeffM2501 | guu does not work with nickserv |
| 18:21.25 | guu | JeffM2501: Hoookkkkaaayyy!!?!?! |
| 18:21.29 | JeffM2501 | she is not part of the network |
| 18:21.47 | JeffM2501 | that's my girl |
| 18:21.57 | JeffM2501 | guu who's your daddy? |
| 18:21.58 | guu | Dunno. |
| 18:22.06 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:22.08 | CBG | guu: whats ya gender? |
| 18:22.09 | guu | I don't have a clue. |
| 18:22.14 | JeffM2501 | fathers day is fun for her |
| 18:22.17 | JeffM2501 | guu gender |
| 18:22.18 | guu | Im all woman baby |
| 18:22.32 | CBG | guu: gender! |
| 18:22.33 | guu | Im all woman baby |
| 18:22.52 | CBG | Wow. She seems certain about *something*. (for once) |
| 18:22.55 | Grumbler | well, that explains why you have to ask her three times for a proper response....woman...sheesh :) |
| 18:22.58 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't change |
| 18:23.00 | JeffM2501 | ever |
| 18:23.03 | JeffM2501 | she is not ibot |
| 18:23.09 | JeffM2501 | in any way, shape, or form |
| 18:23.32 | CBG | they have "shape" :o lol |
| 18:23.52 | JeffM2501 | they do |
| 18:23.59 | JeffM2501 | the box is larger |
| 18:24.03 | CBG | hehe |
| 18:24.10 | CBG | you calling guu fat? |
| 18:24.13 | JeffM2501 | ibot runs on some freaky old hardware IIRC |
| 18:24.16 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:24.18 | JeffM2501 | guu runs on a nice new dell server |
| 18:24.18 | guu | JeffM2501: Poke me there again, and you'll pull back a stump. |
| 18:24.26 | JeffM2501 | and she's sentive about it |
| 18:24.30 | JeffM2501 | since it just moved |
| 18:24.31 | CBG | you bet. |
| 18:24.34 | JeffM2501 | and is running rather hot |
| 18:24.46 | JeffM2501 | I have to put some vents in the cabinent soon |
| 18:25.07 | CBG | lol |
| 18:25.21 | Birdie | you made her all by yourself? |
| 18:25.35 | Birdie | like the "i'm all woman baby" etc |
| 18:26.25 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 18:26.33 | JeffM2501 | dell made the machine |
| 18:26.41 | JeffM2501 | orchid gave her her spirit |
| 18:26.57 | JeffM2501 | I showed her how to swear in chineese |
| 18:27.13 | *** join/#bzflag crko (~jan@crko.user) |
| 18:27.25 | CBG | guu: swear in chineese! |
| 18:27.26 | Birdie | orchid gaves her the spirit, thats why guu is female |
| 18:27.26 | guu | CBG: are you 10? |
| 18:27.34 | CBG | guu: who cares. SWEAR |
| 18:27.35 | guu | CBG: are you 10? |
| 18:27.45 | CBG | guu: boo |
| 18:27.46 | guu | CBG: are you 11? |
| 18:27.55 | CBG | guu: getting closer... |
| 18:27.55 | guu | CBG: WTF? |
| 18:28.16 | orchid | CBG: try /msg guu <...> |
| 18:28.28 | *** part/#bzflag sniperiid (~sniper_@82.137.26.35) |
| 18:28.45 | CBG | yay. he left :D lol |
| 18:29.50 | Birdie | people may think about you the same when you leave |
| 18:30.04 | CBG | I am sure they do... :| |
| 18:32.05 | CBG | lets try it and see :D |
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| 18:32.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
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| 18:39.00 | Birdie | if you have a slow shockwave, what is the command to change it? (to basic) |
| 18:40.34 | Pimpinella | Birdie: use the corrosponding set command and use default vaue |
| 18:40.42 | Pimpinella | value |
| 18:42.58 | ruskie | or a really slow sw with an envelope map size :) |
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| 18:44.00 | BearPerson | ruskie, envelop part of map |
| 18:44.12 | ruskie | naahh full map |
| 18:44.15 | ruskie | it's nicer |
| 18:44.16 | BearPerson | "get out of here in the next 10 seconds or you'll be trapped" |
| 18:44.23 | BearPerson | full map kills anyone spawning tho |
| 18:44.45 | ruskie | yeah true |
| 18:44.59 | Birdie | just before they cap, you shoot (slow shockwvae on their base), you die but shockwave will still be going to kill:) |
| 18:45.16 | ruskie | well labyrinth will have sw mines :) |
| 18:45.24 | ruskie | hmmm can a static sw be made? |
| 18:46.03 | sniperiid | ruskie, whats ur test server, forgot it |
| 18:46.07 | sniperiid | host : port |
| 18:46.10 | ruskie | mages.ath.cx:5154 |
| 18:46.13 | sniperiid | k |
| 18:53.10 | BearPerson | ruskie, probably not... but a world weapon firing often enough should do the trick |
| 18:54.27 | BearPerson | hmm... when you directly connect with "bzflag <server>" it doesn't fetch a token it seems... |
| 19:01.04 | jpa_ | ruskie: you could make a sphere with phydrv death |
| 19:01.45 | ruskie | well I don't really want a sw static unless it's a tiny sw |
| 19:06.33 | Grumbler | now that would be interesting.......a sphere with a hold in one side that had a rotating texture of the hole......sort of a jump through at your own risk |
| 19:06.55 | Grumbler | be a bit difficult to pull off |
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| 19:52.02 | ruskie | hmmm how can I chnage floor texture and wall texture? |
| 19:52.15 | ruskie | I'd want to give them the same as box is using... |
| 19:52.40 | CBG | Check out jpas tutorial |
| 19:52.45 | ruskie | url? |
| 19:52.52 | CBG | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/textures.php |
| 19:52.56 | CBG | :) |
| 19:53.55 | jpa_ | aargh |
| 19:54.15 | ruskie | :) |
| 19:54.16 | ruskie | why? |
| 19:54.18 | CBG | lol. :D |
| 19:54.50 | ruskie | so basicaly no why to make floor a diff texture and still have bu work on it... |
| 19:55.00 | ruskie | atleast I don't see it in there |
| 19:55.10 | CBG | Umm. only per client, not per server, iirc |
| 19:55.37 | CBG | anyone want to correct me on that? |
| 19:55.41 | ruskie | ahh std_ground |
| 19:55.45 | ruskie | and wall |
| 19:55.56 | ruskie | but those are just builtin text |
| 19:56.15 | jpa_ | ruskie: just use some boxes instead |
| 19:56.22 | ruskie | no I want to have BU work |
| 19:56.24 | ruskie | else I would |
| 19:56.28 | CBG | But what about OO and Burrow then? |
| 19:56.37 | ruskie | OO will work |
| 19:56.38 | CBG | (dont forget OO. :P) |
| 19:56.42 | ruskie | as long as box is height 0 |
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| 19:56.49 | ruskie | like it is atm |
| 19:56.53 | ruskie | but BU won't |
| 19:56.58 | CBG | oh ok - yeah... |
| 19:57.10 | jpa_ | ruskie: put the floorbox so that it is under the floor |
| 19:57.26 | CBG | will it even show up? |
| 19:57.31 | ruskie | erm and the texture would still be seen? |
| 19:57.32 | jpa_ | just a little, 0.01, otherwise it will look stupid |
| 19:57.44 | ruskie | you're confusing me... |
| 19:57.45 | jpa_ | yes, it will be seen (due to the way bzflag draws the world) |
| 19:58.09 | CBG | put the box with the new texture so ithe top is 0.01 under the floor |
| 19:58.18 | CBG | but the grass will still be there |
| 19:58.21 | CBG | it will look silly :( |
| 19:58.26 | jpa_ | hmm? |
| 19:58.36 | jpa_ | i don't think the grass will be visible |
| 19:58.39 | ruskie | mages.ath.cx:5154 |
| 19:58.42 | Pimpinella | ruskie: just thought about static SW |
| 19:58.45 | jpa_ | bzflag draws things in funny order |
| 19:58.49 | ruskie | with the floor box set to -0.01 |
| 19:59.16 | ruskie | erm I goofed |
| 19:59.22 | Pimpinella | try inner and outer radius close together and swAdLife very large |
| 19:59.31 | ruskie | :) |
| 19:59.39 | Pimpinella | not sure if that works |
| 19:59.54 | ruskie | is it possible to define different options for each world weapon? |
| 20:00.07 | jpa_ | no |
| 20:00.08 | Pimpinella | no |
| 20:00.17 | jpa_ | but i think a sphere would work, too |
| 20:00.30 | Pimpinella | ack |
| 20:00.56 | Pimpinella | or a zone combined witha plugin |
| 20:00.58 | CBG | ruskie: cant find a burrow flag |
| 20:01.09 | ruskie | hmmm is it possible to put an object into -? |
| 20:01.13 | CBG | and then i got a JM flag (useless with no radar to jam) which i couldnt get rid of. |
| 20:01.13 | ruskie | via z |
| 20:01.22 | jpa_ | it should be |
| 20:01.51 | ruskie | restart of the server |
| 20:02.18 | Grumbler | ~jpa_++ |
| 20:03.01 | Grumbler | ~Pimpinella++ |
| 20:04.37 | Pimpinella | Grumbler: ty, but fr what? |
| 20:04.38 | ruskie | Pimpinella, you can return... :) CBG forgot to check what client I'm using :) |
| 20:04.49 | Pimpinella | hehe |
| 20:04.51 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, sadly no the data is the same for all shots of that type |
| 20:05.03 | jpa_ | ruskie: box.kapsi.fi:50141 |
| 20:05.08 | JeffM2501 | I want to change it so it sends the shot data ( size, speed, etc... ) with the shot |
| 20:05.17 | _Manu_ | ~Pimpinella++ |
| 20:05.38 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: yeah, i know, was ruskie's question though ;) |
| 20:05.42 | JeffM2501 | and right now the plugins don't get any zone event |
| 20:05.43 | CBG | yes. silly me... :( lol |
| 20:05.43 | Pimpinella | _Manu_: ;) |
| 20:05.43 | JeffM2501 | ohh sorry |
| 20:05.51 | jpa_ | ruskie: bah, wait |
| 20:05.59 | ruskie | jpa_, sorry no gl client atm... need to restart X to get the libs reread |
| 20:06.03 | JeffM2501 | lot of text realy close together |
| 20:06.10 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: 10 minutes work for you, no? ;) |
| 20:06.25 | JeffM2501 | it would break proto |
| 20:06.43 | Pimpinella | add zone event? |
| 20:06.43 | JeffM2501 | and have to put in some more checks to make sure that when clients send shots they match the bzdb vars |
| 20:06.52 | JeffM2501 | zone event I don't know |
| 20:06.53 | jpa_ | ruskie: now it works :) |
| 20:06.54 | bryjen | ruskie: i think you can define a material call GroundMaterial in your map file that will be used to draw the ground |
| 20:07.12 | JeffM2501 | zone events mean the server has to track when clients enter and exit a zone |
| 20:07.19 | Grumbler | whhoa, thhats an old question.....bryjen must be in a time warp again |
| 20:07.21 | jpa_ | ruskie: i have a meshbox at -1.001, height 1, drivethrough |
| 20:07.27 | JeffM2501 | I think I'll the code is tehre now, I just haven't looked where to make it check everyone every loop |
| 20:07.37 | ruskie | jpa_, hmm can a box be drivethourgh? |
| 20:07.47 | jpa_ | uh, of course? |
| 20:07.57 | JeffM2501 | there isn't a place for a zone entry hook now, I'd have to add a place where we checked to see when a player moves |
| 20:08.04 | ruskie | so just add a drivethrough directive in? |
| 20:08.12 | jpa_ | yes |
| 20:08.13 | bryjen | Grumbler: only about 15 minutes of reading backlog |
| 20:08.17 | JeffM2501 | it will make the server use a little more cpu |
| 20:08.31 | Pimpinella | no matter for bzfs |
| 20:08.47 | Grumbler | bryjen, i thought he asked that yesterday....maybe i am in the time warp |
| 20:08.52 | jpa_ | but be sure it is under the ground, i think it will stop flags appearing on it if it is at 0 |
| 20:09.19 | ruskie | well I have -fb so they will :) |
| 20:09.22 | Pimpinella | would be a good job to have checks like that in a chain of objects |
| 20:09.38 | jpa_ | ruskie: drivethrough... |
| 20:09.46 | ruskie | ahh |
| 20:09.50 | Pimpinella | only checks we need would be in it |
| 20:09.59 | Grumbler | ruskie, flags wont appear on a drivethrhough object |
| 20:10.04 | ruskie | ahhh |
| 20:11.05 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, yeah it's all doable, I just haven't taken the time to look at where I have to put the code. |
| 20:11.29 | Pimpinella | doStuffOnPlayers |
| 20:11.46 | JeffM2501 | getBuzyWithTheCheeszeWizz(); |
| 20:11.49 | Pimpinella | i think |
| 20:11.56 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 20:12.04 | JeffM2501 | it all just takes time |
| 20:12.17 | Pimpinella | so true... |
| 20:13.06 | Pimpinella | maybe time to say i love the plugin stuff :) |
| 20:13.19 | JeffM2501 | have you used it yet? |
| 20:13.22 | Pimpinella | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 20:13.32 | Pimpinella | working on a plugin |
| 20:13.38 | JeffM2501 | what will it do? |
| 20:13.46 | Pimpinella | the 1vs1 stuff |
| 20:14.01 | Pimpinella | i'm sad maintaining the path |
| 20:14.04 | Pimpinella | patch |
| 20:14.17 | JeffM2501 | ahh yeah |
| 20:14.18 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 20:14.21 | ruskie | CBG, running again |
| 20:14.26 | CBG | okies |
| 20:14.28 | JeffM2501 | plugin should be a lot easyer for it |
| 20:14.36 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 20:14.37 | JeffM2501 | I think I need some more API stuff for seting like team score and stuff |
| 20:14.50 | JeffM2501 | if you need more api calls let me know |
| 20:15.03 | Pimpinella | ty, will do |
| 20:15.44 | JeffM2501 | when I know what to add it's easy and fast for me, the hard part is figuring out what to add :) |
| 20:16.45 | jpa_ | i'd like a protect-jpa-from-dying -module |
| 20:17.13 | Pimpinella | easy fix ;) |
| 20:22.00 | ruskie | hmmm what's the option to auto drop bad flags after a time? |
| 20:22.03 | JeffM2501 | that is one of the evils of plug-ins ( and server patches ) |
| 20:22.14 | Pimpinella | that crappy matchserver still refuses to crash, prolly it only does on woody |
| 20:27.53 | TimRiker | annoying DOSsers |
| 20:29.47 | Grumbler | sarge rules |
| 20:31.29 | CBG | ruskie: do I lag? |
| 20:33.59 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, do you think that a HTF plugin could be made too? |
| 20:34.31 | JeffM2501 | if there was a way to have the plugin limit the number of team flags and aprove the capture of a base |
| 20:39.03 | JeffM2501 | hmm could probably also do a true rabbit chase too |
| 20:39.15 | JeffM2501 | if I overide the anoint |
| 20:39.56 | BearPerson | hmm... /me gets a crazy idea for a game type |
| 20:41.02 | bryjen | what's wrong about the current rabbit chase? |
| 20:44.34 | JeffM2501 | I think it should make the killer be the rabbit |
| 20:44.37 | JeffM2501 | and give score on time |
| 20:44.44 | jolie | why a rabbit! |
| 20:44.45 | JeffM2501 | the current method is fun |
| 20:44.49 | jolie | a dig |
| 20:44.53 | jolie | dog or ferret |
| 20:44.56 | jolie | not rabbit >_< |
| 20:45.02 | JeffM2501 | becuse "get whittie" was frowned upon |
| 20:45.34 | JeffM2501 | it would just be cool to customise it in those types of ways |
| 20:46.05 | Birdie | or a bird, shooting in the ari |
| 20:46.06 | Birdie | air |
| 20:46.11 | Birdie | working with angle |
| 20:46.13 | Birdie | should be cool |
| 20:47.18 | jolie | well i got enought of chassing bloddy rabbit in jumpnbump |
| 20:51.44 | jpa_ | we have a ferret |
| 20:51.45 | jpa_ | i think |
| 20:52.31 | Grumbler | well, you could call it "osama chase" ....that might tick off some people though |
| 20:52.53 | Grumbler | ...would explain the rocket launcher on the rabbit a little better though |
| 20:54.30 | JeffM2501 | sadly stuff like changing how players move isn't doable via a server side plugin :) |
| 21:00.40 | ruskie | hmmm my map will need a warning |
| 21:00.49 | CBG | yes. :D |
| 21:02.04 | ruskie | Ppl who are claustrophobic or get dizzy easily are advised not to play this map!!! |
| 21:07.45 | bryjen | its currently an option to have the killer become the rabbit. all's you'd need to override is the scoring |
| 21:07.49 | bryjen | JeffM |
| 21:08.42 | JeffM2501 | ahh cool |
| 21:08.50 | JeffM2501 | then it shant be too hard then :) |
| 21:09.18 | Grumbler | looks like you have some wall issues ruskie |
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| 21:09.25 | JeffM2501 | I think it'd be cool if those sub game variations were plugins rather then command line options |
| 21:09.29 | ruskie | Grumbler? |
| 21:09.35 | JeffM2501 | more modular code |
| 21:09.42 | ruskie | JeffM2501, would be nice |
| 21:09.55 | CBG | JeffM2501 what would the benefit(s) be? |
| 21:10.05 | Grumbler | all your wall joints are half a width off |
| 21:10.11 | JeffM2501 | just more modular code, and it would be easyer to combine modes and stuff |
| 21:10.19 | ruskie | Grumbler, that's intentional |
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| 21:11.00 | Grumbler | why, it looks so .......unfinished |
| 21:11.05 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:11.20 | ruskie | ricos have amazing effects |
| 21:12.20 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: probably still not real HTF via plugin, but surely better than what we have now |
| 21:12.39 | Grumbler | yeah....but it doesnt look right.......whoohoo found blue base |
| 21:12.41 | JeffM2501 | what more would htf need todo thats not in plugin? |
| 21:12.51 | ruskie | Grumbler, :)) |
| 21:12.59 | ruskie | Grumbler, won't be so easy soon with fake bases... |
| 21:13.00 | Pimpinella | have to think about it |
| 21:13.10 | Pimpinella | i never really playerd htf |
| 21:13.13 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 21:13.13 | ruskie | and planing on covering the outside wall with a box... :) |
| 21:13.21 | JeffM2501 | it'd be cool to identify those kinds of things |
| 21:13.25 | CBG | ruskie: there are 2 tricks on the map: |
| 21:13.29 | ruskie | hmmm /me read about htf but can't get it |
| 21:13.35 | JeffM2501 | and make sure that future versions allow for that kinda stuff to be done. |
| 21:13.37 | ruskie | CBG, tell |
| 21:13.39 | CBG | 1. use the little coloured dot above the mousebox to find the bases |
| 21:13.46 | Pimpinella | killer becomes rabbit is already implemented |
| 21:13.53 | JeffM2501 | yeah bryjen said so |
| 21:13.57 | Grumbler | its what ducati-ites do when they are bored o f the dance |
| 21:13.58 | Pimpinella | you can choose between modes |
| 21:13.58 | JeffM2501 | score on time isn't |
| 21:13.59 | ruskie | CBG, not works always... |
| 21:14.01 | JeffM2501 | but that can be done now |
| 21:14.02 | JeffM2501 | ish |
| 21:14.12 | CBG | 2. if you hunt someone, you can find where they are (but not what floor) by turning around tll it says "Spotted Player" |
| 21:14.14 | Pimpinella | define score on tine |
| 21:14.17 | Pimpinella | time |
| 21:14.24 | ruskie | CBG, well nothing wrong with that |
| 21:14.49 | CBG | why wont the compass thing work? |
| 21:14.50 | ruskie | and even that doesn't really work if to many ppl in between |
| 21:15.10 | ruskie | CBG, cuse the flag can be dropped somewhere else :) |
| 21:15.18 | ruskie | or be always on the move |
| 21:15.21 | CBG | you could also keep pressing the "look/lock on" button and turn till you see someone |
| 21:15.34 | CBG | ruskie: but it helps you find your base to cap |
| 21:15.34 | Grumbler | ruskie, why dont you make a rounded mesh for the corners....then richo would be interesting |
| 21:15.35 | ruskie | true |
| 21:15.46 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: what do you mean with score on time? |
| 21:15.56 | Grumbler | time being rabbit |
| 21:15.58 | ruskie | Grumbler, the map is already huge... and rather complex |
| 21:16.12 | Grumbler | ran fine for me....make it larger :) |
| 21:16.16 | CBG | rofl |
| 21:16.18 | Pimpinella | ah yeah |
| 21:16.21 | Pimpinella | ty Grumbler |
| 21:16.25 | bryjen | Pimpinella: something like you get 1 point for every minute you are the rabbit |
| 21:16.38 | Pimpinella | nice idea |
| 21:16.44 | Pimpinella | bbl |
| 21:16.47 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, rabbit gets a point for every 5 seconds it's a rabbit |
| 21:16.57 | JeffM2501 | so the point of the game is to run |
| 21:17.01 | ruskie | CBG, and nothing wrong with trying to lock onto someone or hunting them :) |
| 21:17.01 | JeffM2501 | and be rabbit |
| 21:17.02 | bryjen | maybe 1 point / 10 seconds would be more..... yeah, what JeffM said |
| 21:17.06 | JeffM2501 | not to rack up rabbit kills |
| 21:17.12 | ruskie | yeah |
| 21:17.14 | JeffM2501 | yeah 1 point per N time |
| 21:17.15 | ruskie | that would be nice |
| 21:17.19 | CBG | ruskie: yeah, but its a handy hint... :P |
| 21:17.24 | ruskie | nice game of rabbit |
| 21:17.30 | ruskie | CBG, well the map is confusing enough |
| 21:17.33 | Grumbler | .....and subtract points for being the hunter |
| 21:17.35 | CBG | yeah, make the map rabbit hunt. |
| 21:17.56 | CBG | ruskie: but its easier if you learn the tricks... :D |
| 21:17.58 | ruskie | CBG, variations will be done for ffa and the rabbit hunt jeff descibres |
| 21:18.02 | Grumbler | at a slower rate of course |
| 21:18.28 | CBG | of course , grumbler. :P |
| 21:19.35 | ruskie | CBG, since ffa and rabbit hunt would warrant different setting for worl weapons :) |
| 21:19.53 | CBG | ruskie: yeah. but rabbit would be awesome on that map. :D |
| 21:19.57 | ruskie | and did I mention the floors won't be like they are atm... |
| 21:20.07 | CBG | how will they differ? |
| 21:20.08 | ruskie | there will be hidden jump routes |
| 21:20.17 | ruskie | you won't be able to jump as you can now |
| 21:20.30 | ruskie | a few holes here and there |
| 21:20.35 | CBG | oh right. cool |
| 21:20.45 | ruskie | and still missing tele's :) |
| 21:20.47 | CBG | make the boxes passable |
| 21:20.55 | CBG | so you dont think its a gap... |
| 21:21.00 | CBG | and teles would be cool! |
| 21:21.01 | ruskie | yup |
| 21:21.03 | ruskie | my plan :) |
| 21:21.15 | CBG | maybe make some teles randomly linked?? |
| 21:21.16 | ruskie | also some phys objects as traps :) |
| 21:21.27 | ruskie | can that be done? |
| 21:21.42 | CBG | yes, iirc |
| 21:21.43 | Grumbler | bryjen, laptop with a funky spacebar |
| 21:22.01 | CBG | you mean "f un k y", right? |
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| 21:23.13 | ruskie | hmmm how would a TH react in a rabbit hunt? |
| 21:23.38 | Grumbler | TH doesnt kill hte rabbit, just steals its flag |
| 21:24.19 | ruskie | ahh |
| 21:26.17 | ruskie | btw can someone explain how HTF is played... /me keeps forgeting that one... |
| 21:26.36 | Birdie | trying to capture your own flag |
| 21:26.45 | ruskie | hmmm |
| 21:26.48 | CBG | HTF? |
| 21:26.52 | Birdie | you are for example with 5 reds, you teamkill and you try to put your flag in green base |
| 21:26.54 | JeffM2501 | "hold the flag" |
| 21:27.13 | CBG | oook. :S |
| 21:27.23 | ruskie | hmmm interesting |
| 21:27.27 | Birdie | just the opposite what you normally TRY to do |
| 21:27.41 | ruskie | imho would be better if there would be 1 flag for all to cap |
| 21:27.46 | JeffM2501 | it's a non team game, the person who caps the flag gets the points, not the team |
| 21:28.09 | ruskie | so one can set the flag somewhere on the map(or a few zones) and ppl have to try to cap it... |
| 21:28.21 | JeffM2501 | maybe the plugin could allow the system to define a flag for a base that dosn't exist, and ahve the plugin handle the respanw |
| 21:28.34 | JeffM2501 | then you could have say a red base, yet a blue flag spanw, |
| 21:28.54 | JeffM2501 | then have the plugin also take care of the teamkill scoring so it don't peanalise teamkills |
| 21:29.04 | JeffM2501 | it probalby could be dooable |
| 21:29.20 | ruskie | hmmm do rogues have a flag? |
| 21:29.28 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:30.18 | CBG | wouldnt HTF be better with rogoues and a rogue flag and base? |
| 21:30.36 | JeffM2501 | then what makes them any difrent from any other team? |
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| 21:30.56 | JeffM2501 | other then they are black? |
| 21:31.19 | brad2901 | They can teamkill.. |
| 21:31.41 | JeffM2501 | it would be easyer to simply remove the teamkill on real teams then to make rouge a team ;) |
| 21:31.53 | CBG | There already is a rogue team |
| 21:31.54 | JeffM2501 | there are options to disable TK now |
| 21:32.04 | CBG | you just need to make a rogue base texture and a rogue flag... |
| 21:32.06 | ruskie | but still having a neutral flag would be better than trying to cap your own |
| 21:32.08 | JeffM2501 | it's not really a team, since they don't have a base |
| 21:32.10 | brad2901 | yeah, but not w/o losing points |
| 21:32.11 | JeffM2501 | or a cap |
| 21:32.20 | JeffM2501 | that's a LOT more code to change |
| 21:32.26 | JeffM2501 | client AND server |
| 21:32.27 | CBG | it just seems to be that HTF is a free for all... no teamplay... |
| 21:32.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:32.33 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 21:32.37 | CBG | so it seems silly to be on the red team for example |
| 21:32.43 | JeffM2501 | your not on red team |
| 21:32.45 | JeffM2501 | your just red color |
| 21:32.53 | JeffM2501 | you have to get over color == team |
| 21:33.04 | CBG | not everyone will |
| 21:33.06 | JeffM2501 | it would equaly as wrong to have a rouge have a flag |
| 21:33.17 | CBG | and noobs who play HTF will then go to other game moded and TK and think its good.... |
| 21:33.22 | JeffM2501 | CBG, then they won't play true FFA or HTF |
| 21:33.31 | CBG | huh? |
| 21:33.46 | JeffM2501 | then that is a documenation problem |
| 21:33.54 | JeffM2501 | NOT a game mechanic prlblem |
| 21:34.06 | JeffM2501 | I'd also like to hook up a hud change when you have a real teamie targetd |
| 21:34.16 | ruskie | so that explains all the noobs who join and try shooting at you |
| 21:34.16 | JeffM2501 | so it's easy to know who to shoot and who not to shoot |
| 21:34.19 | ruskie | they are playing htf |
| 21:34.22 | CBG | in FFA cna CTF rogues are suppossed to kill rogues. HTF should be the same :( imho |
| 21:34.24 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:34.29 | JeffM2501 | FFA is not a real FFA |
| 21:34.33 | JeffM2501 | that is why they are confused |
| 21:34.40 | JeffM2501 | normal FPS ffa dosn't have teams |
| 21:34.50 | JeffM2501 | FFA really isn't "Free" for all |
| 21:34.51 | ruskie | yeah ffa would equal all rogue |
| 21:34.57 | ruskie | and only rogue |
| 21:34.57 | CBG | yes yes... then ignore ffa, think of CTF |
| 21:34.58 | JeffM2501 | it's "team deathmatch" |
| 21:35.19 | ruskie | only if you have teams :) |
| 21:35.20 | JeffM2501 | team CTF or ffa CTF? :) |
| 21:35.24 | CBG | Then maybe we should rename it to TDM ? |
| 21:35.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah not all CTFs have team |
| 21:35.34 | CBG | Team CTF |
| 21:35.36 | JeffM2501 | CBG, i've sugested that Many times |
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| 21:35.45 | CBG | Nobody listens, eh? |
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| 21:36.00 | JeffM2501 | if you only knew |
| 21:36.11 | ruskie | basicaly TDM == current FFA; FFA == TDM with rogue team only |
| 21:36.45 | JeffM2501 | why peanalise people and make them all black for real FFA? |
| 21:36.51 | JeffM2501 | why not let them chose color? |
| 21:37.00 | JeffM2501 | and remove the teamscore aspect |
| 21:37.05 | JeffM2501 | you can do that in quake |
| 21:37.06 | ruskie | or that... |
| 21:37.13 | JeffM2501 | and every other game on the freaking planet |
| 21:37.14 | CBG | why is there a teamscore in FFA? |
| 21:37.23 | JeffM2501 | because it's a team game |
| 21:37.27 | jpa_ | maybe r/h/n olor choosing |
| 21:37.28 | JeffM2501 | bzflag only has team games |
| 21:37.36 | jpa_ | rgb i mean |
| 21:37.36 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, what do you have against BZFlag being different? |
| 21:37.43 | JeffM2501 | nothing |
| 21:37.46 | CBG | real FFA is not a team game - we just said... |
| 21:37.50 | JeffM2501 | it just shoudl be difent for a reason :) |
| 21:38.00 | JeffM2501 | you know me |
| 21:38.05 | DTRemenak | too well ;) |
| 21:38.07 | JeffM2501 | I'm just doing my normal thing |
| 21:38.13 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:38.19 | ruskie | trying to impreove bzflag on so many levels |
| 21:38.35 | JeffM2501 | I see people come in with expectations, and get confused |
| 21:39.17 | DTRemenak | most people who play lots of other fps' don't like bzflag anyway, it's a different playing style |
| 21:39.35 | CBG | n/me has to go |
| 21:39.37 | CBG | nnight all |
| 21:39.56 | CBG | damn 'n' bug... byeeeee |
| 21:40.57 | ruskie | yeah I also play only bzflag from the fps variety |
| 21:41.08 | ruskie | it's the only game I still have faith in for the fps like |
| 21:42.56 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, dosn't mean they arn't right :) |
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| 21:43.20 | DTRemenak | so there are a few different rules...it doesn't matter if BZFlag is different from everything else, 'cause there's not much (stable) overlap anyway |
| 21:43.29 | JeffM2501 | there is a good call for a good vehicle combat game |
| 21:43.49 | JeffM2501 | I just think that some other modes could be fun too |
| 21:44.17 | DTRemenak | sure...you haven't heard me say htf is bad |
| 21:44.23 | DTRemenak | just that team != color is bad :) |
| 21:44.47 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, only to you, comeone think difrent ;) |
| 21:44.54 | DTRemenak | you'll need to have more reasons than "every other fps does it" to convince me :) |
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| 21:45.02 | JeffM2501 | it will be fun |
| 21:45.04 | JeffM2501 | there |
| 21:45.09 | JeffM2501 | that's where i"m leaving it |
| 21:45.17 | DTRemenak | it can be fun without the rainbow too :) |
| 21:45.52 | ruskie | will tanks ever be in diff shapes and have skins? |
| 21:45.59 | ruskie | I guess the same thing |
| 21:47.17 | DTRemenak | skins would be cool, but the team color should still show through |
| 21:47.49 | DTRemenak | different shapes is a "probably not" |
| 21:47.57 | DTRemenak | but who knows |
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| 21:49.00 | ruskie | imho shape should be defined from minimal x size to max x size and minimal y size max y size and min z size and max z size |
| 21:49.59 | DTRemenak | the 1/2 z thing is really wierd :) |
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| 21:51.06 | ruskie | hmmm could wireframe mode be disabled for clients on a map? |
| 21:52.04 | jpa_ | don't think so |
| 21:52.29 | ruskie | well the maze acctually looks weird in wireframe... |
| 21:52.41 | ruskie | but it could be playable |
| 21:52.42 | jpa_ | ruskie: how would you define a rotated object in that way? |
| 21:52.43 | DTRemenak | ruskie, wireframe is only available in debug builds |
| 21:52.52 | ruskie | DTRemenak, ahhh |
| 21:52.56 | jpa_ | DTRemenak: and with -debug |
| 21:53.00 | DTRemenak | 98% of players will never see it |
| 21:53.13 | ruskie | <scribble> <scribble> <jot> <jot> <scribble> |
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| 21:55.15 | jpa_ | evil nevvvver dies |
| 21:56.04 | creeperz | to Chinese food |
| 21:56.10 | creeperz | cuz it's really good :-) |
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| 21:56.48 | ruskie | DTRemenak, jpa_, you two behave kinda weird... |
| 21:57.14 | amathis101 | hi guys. |
| 21:57.18 | amathis101 | havn't been here in a while. |
| 21:57.39 | DTRemenak | you do not, I took it from you when I killed you :) |
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| 22:02.37 | orchid | !weather cyyz |
| 22:02.39 | guu | orchid: The current temperature in Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario is 86°F (5:00 PM EDT on June 07, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 61°F. Wind: WNW at 20 mph (32 km/h). Pressure: 29.83 in (1010 hPa). Visibility: 15.0 miles (24.1 kilometers). UV: 5 out of 16 |
| 22:03.17 | jpa_ | i've never seen DTRemenak so silly :) |
| 22:03.32 | bryjen | a bit warm for fires and marshmallows |
| 22:03.33 | DTRemenak | jpa_, you haven't been here long ;) |
| 22:03.56 | DTRemenak | ~weather KBUR |
| 22:04.02 | ruskie | ~weather ljlj |
| 22:04.15 | DTRemenak | ibot, you suck |
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| 22:04.33 | bryjen | at least your not a flying elephnat |
| 22:04.36 | DTRemenak | !weather 91126 |
| 22:04.39 | guu | DTRemenak: The current temperature in Pasadena, California (91126) is 77°F (2:59 PM PDT on June 07, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 56°F. UV: 10 out of 16 |
| 22:04.44 | bryjen | ~spell elephant |
| 22:04.58 | DTRemenak | not too warm for fires and marshmellows |
| 22:05.03 | bryjen | but was it /typed/ correctly |
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| 22:08.47 | amathis | su |
| 22:08.48 | bryjen | !weather 42301 |
| 22:08.51 | guu | bryjen: The current temperature in Owensboro, Kentucky (42301) is 88°F (4:45 PM CDT on June 07, 2005). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Pressure: 29.90 in (1012 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 4 out of 16 |
| 22:08.53 | amathis | ww |
| 22:10.34 | bryjen | California has more ultraviolet |
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| 22:35.29 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking || "Killing Spree" |
| 22:35.29 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 22:36.17 | menotume | hmmm, bzflag doesn't work too well as a LAN-only game anymore :P |
| 22:37.07 | Tupone | menotume: why? |
| 22:37.29 | menotume | my internet was down for 1 1/2 days, so to test some stuff, i ran my own server |
| 22:37.37 | Tupone | and ? |
| 22:37.41 | menotume | LAN (same machine actually) |
| 22:38.03 | menotume | sometimes it would connect (after a bout 2 mintes), sometimes it said 'error cionnecting to server' |
| 22:38.07 | Tupone | have you got my last changes? |
| 22:38.14 | menotume | probably not |
| 22:38.19 | menotume | if less than 2 days |
| 22:38.33 | Tupone | I did 2 days ago |
| 22:38.37 | menotume | lol |
| 22:38.45 | menotume | ok, gimmie a bit to get in sync |
| 22:38.53 | Tupone | areshandler, and multicast.cxx |
| 22:38.59 | menotume | ahhh |
| 22:39.03 | menotume | ok |
| 22:39.37 | menotume | i'm sure it was all m.b.o. related |
| 22:40.14 | Tupone | my changes allows to discover the local lan server again, and let c-ares look at /etc/hosts |
| 22:40.56 | Tupone | the bzflag.org is just for getting the token |
| 22:41.53 | menotume | ahhh |
| 22:42.13 | menotume | i never tried a 'list servers', just tried to connect to localhost |
| 22:42.14 | Tupone | what you mean by that? you hurted? |
| 22:42.34 | Tupone | if you connect to localhost, you still try to get the token |
| 22:42.34 | menotume | ahhhh .... mean 'I understand' |
| 22:42.52 | menotume | ok |
| 22:43.12 | Tupone | you did get my new changes now? or they were already in ? |
| 22:43.19 | menotume | no, it'll take a bit |
| 22:43.28 | menotume | I made a lot of code changes (scoreboard) |
| 22:43.32 | menotume | lemme get in sync |
| 22:43.46 | menotume | of course, it connects just fine now, now that my internet works |
| 22:44.46 | DTRemenak | menotume, it should not try to contact m.b.o if you clear your password |
| 22:44.50 | Tupone | but even to localhost, it should not work with the ares bug |
| 22:45.10 | Tupone | with or without internet |
| 22:45.20 | Tupone | unless localhost in a dns name :/ |
| 22:45.45 | menotume | ahhh |
| 22:45.55 | Tupone | well, I remain with this doubt. Nite |
| 22:45.56 | menotume | it's in /etc/hosts, i would think |
| 22:46.02 | menotume | g'nite |
| 22:46.08 | menotume | check with me when you get up |
| 22:46.11 | Tupone | and it was not read correctly. Cya |
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| 22:48.53 | menotume | DTRemenak: thx, i discovered that (clear password). I guess the other problem got me then. |
| 22:49.23 | menotume | although, there was quite a delay (1-2 minutes) before i could connect to my bzfs on the same machine :) |
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