| 00:00.07 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 00:00.24 | Tupone | ciao |
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| 00:33.47 | JeffM2501 | there's my girl |
| 00:34.12 | JeffM2501 | yay and her reverse dns held :) |
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| 01:01.30 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: ping |
| 01:02.33 | wegstar | :) |
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| 01:06.09 | Harlin | anyone here have any suggestions as to how i can get bzflag to play faster on Linux? it runs fine on XP but just not on linux |
| 01:06.21 | DTRemenak | update your video drivers |
| 01:06.56 | DTRemenak | if you're using an nvidia card or a recent ati one, get their binary drivers |
| 01:07.09 | Harlin | yeah theyre updated |
| 01:07.19 | Harlin | i have an I85* intel card |
| 01:07.31 | DTRemenak | ah, you're probably sol then :) |
| 01:07.33 | Harlin | cheapie but works well on xp |
| 01:07.39 | Harlin | just not on linux |
| 01:14.09 | blast007 | DRI supports i852/855 |
| 01:18.53 | Harlin | yeah but for some reason it runs very slow |
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| 01:37.39 | stealth | hi, how can I turn off the score board? |
| 01:37.54 | Tupone | S |
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| 01:54.38 | WonderMop | can any explain the "bad token" problem? |
| 01:55.35 | wegstar | hi |
| 01:56.10 | wegstar | bad login info? :/ |
| 01:56.33 | WonderMop | hey weg... i check the name and password... same used for the bzflag ste |
| 01:56.41 | WonderMop | er, site |
| 01:56.45 | wegstar | hmm |
| 01:58.02 | WonderMop | :P |
| 01:58.46 | wegstar | Once I connected to a server with a "grainy" connection that kept losing packets, and that was the only time I had seen a "bad token" message... ;) |
| 01:58.56 | wegstar | hmm |
| 01:58.58 | wegstar | what server? |
| 02:00.41 | WonderMop | any |
| 02:00.43 | WonderMop | :( |
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| 02:02.16 | wegstar | what OS are ya on? |
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| 02:05.31 | WonderMop | gentoo |
| 02:06.46 | wegstar | ah |
| 02:07.10 | WonderMop | usually it's not a prob, but i cannot use the global registration :( |
| 02:07.49 | wegstar | %32$% |
| 02:08.13 | wegstar | did you compile it yourself? :/ |
| 02:10.17 | WonderMop | yes |
| 02:10.20 | WonderMop | emerged it |
| 02:10.49 | wegstar | "emerged"? |
| 02:11.04 | wegstar | yep... I see |
| 02:11.09 | WonderMop | :) |
| 02:11.12 | blast007 | wegstar: it downloads the source, compiles, and installs it |
| 02:11.16 | WonderMop | Yes |
| 02:11.23 | WonderMop | 2.0.2 |
| 02:11.31 | WonderMop | kinda nice to use :) |
| 02:11.55 | blast007 | does the "Find Servers" page work properly? |
| 02:12.01 | WonderMop | yup |
| 02:12.08 | WonderMop | and i can get textures and all that |
| 02:12.13 | blast007 | k, good |
| 02:12.45 | blast007 | can't remember if the casing of the password matters |
| 02:12.52 | wegstar | yep it does |
| 02:12.58 | blast007 | k |
| 02:13.11 | WonderMop | checked it |
| 02:14.01 | wegstar | hmm |
| 02:14.15 | WonderMop | :) |
| 02:14.20 | wegstar | :) |
| 02:14.21 | WonderMop | i've been beating my head on it |
| 02:14.21 | WonderMop | lol |
| 02:16.01 | blast007 | does it say something like this when you connect? invalid callsign or password |
| 02:16.08 | blast007 | if it does, something is being typed wrong |
| 02:16.33 | WonderMop | lemme check fasrt |
| 02:16.36 | blast007 | k |
| 02:17.51 | WonderMop | nope. global login rejected, bad token |
| 02:17.51 | WonderMop | and the name and pass r right |
| 02:18.05 | blast007 | hmm |
| 02:18.37 | blast007 | let me try a couple things, and attempt to duplicate that |
| 02:18.47 | WonderMop | ok |
| 02:19.44 | wegstar | what's that vote_to_kick_someone command again? |
| 02:19.55 | wegstar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.05 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.06 | WonderMop | "/poll kick [name] |
| 02:20.29 | learner | kicking them is only useful if they are NR |
| 02:20.30 | wegstar | ok.. thanks |
| 02:20.38 | orchid | I think im getting to old to keep up with these fast tank speed/fast bullet servers |
| 02:20.40 | learner | if they are causing trouble, use a ban poll |
| 02:20.45 | wegstar | ok |
| 02:21.05 | learner | bans from polls are only temporary anyways |
| 02:21.17 | learner | orchid, do your knees ache too? |
| 02:21.39 | blast007 | can't seem to duplicate it :/ |
| 02:22.03 | blast007 | so apparently the client is getting a token, but the server just says it's invalid |
| 02:22.22 | WonderMop | yes :) |
| 02:22.24 | blast007 | if the username or password were wrong, the client wouldn't get a token |
| 02:22.24 | learner | blast007_away, do you have a proxy between you |
| 02:22.36 | WonderMop | i even sniffed the outbound packets and they looked ok |
| 02:22.38 | WonderMop | no proxy |
| 02:23.13 | blast007 | hmm... |
| 02:23.40 | blast007 | but that would make sence if it _was_ a proxy, because the token is compared against your IP I think |
| 02:25.15 | WonderMop | yes, that's true |
| 02:25.27 | orchid | learner: nope, but im too slow to play on the speedy servers |
| 02:28.15 | WonderMop | well, thx all :) i'll keep working |
| 02:32.33 | wegstar | hmm |
| 03:00.14 | Thumper_ | blast007: reading about your problem... |
| 03:00.59 | blast007 | it was actually a problem for WonderMop |
| 03:01.08 | Thumper_ | yup see that |
| 03:01.09 | blast007 | might be a proxy he doesn't know about |
| 03:01.15 | Thumper_ | might be config problem |
| 03:01.31 | Thumper_ | other windows user has junk in the email section of config that prevented authentication |
| 03:01.39 | blast007 | ah |
| 03:01.42 | Thumper_ | checking details... |
| 03:02.22 | Thumper_ | Problem was bad "set email" entry in config file! |
| 03:02.41 | Thumper_ | with or without quotes... I can't remember |
| 03:02.41 | blast007 | strange |
| 03:03.11 | Thumper_ | but that was for another player - maybe it's the same problem |
| 03:03.22 | blast007 | yeah, it could be |
| 03:06.51 | Thumper_ | problem was [set email ""] (without the [] obviously) |
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| 03:20.18 | MeBigFatGuy | wow Tim wields the mighty septor on shockzor's head :) |
| 03:21.33 | learner | howdy, ye who enjoyeth my doltness |
| 03:21.43 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 03:21.45 | MeBigFatGuy | twas fun |
| 03:21.56 | MeBigFatGuy | i see you gotz a mac email account, eh? |
| 03:22.22 | learner | yeah, had it since they started the program |
| 03:22.36 | MeBigFatGuy | how much space? |
| 03:22.58 | learner | 256 iirc |
| 03:23.52 | learner | maybe not, dunno -- didn't pay much attention to it, not close to any limit |
| 03:24.00 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 03:25.16 | MeBigFatGuy | Thank you for your opinion. |
| 03:25.17 | MeBigFatGuy | BZFlag remains under the LGPL. |
| 03:25.22 | MeBigFatGuy | --gotta love that |
| 03:25.41 | learner | antivirus, web space, file space, profile synchronization, backup service, and a few other nifty features |
| 03:25.54 | learner | heh, yeah |
| 03:25.55 | MeBigFatGuy | trying to compete against the google grid? |
| 03:26.23 | learner | they predate the google e-mail service by a couple years |
| 03:27.22 | learner | the profile syncing and roaming e-mail has to be the best feature that I appreciate most |
| 03:27.29 | MeBigFatGuy | but not the grid... that comes in 2008 |
| 03:28.01 | learner | i sit down at any mac, and I have all my settings, bookmarks, e-mail, etc (and not through some clunky web interface) |
| 03:28.26 | learner | heh, I don't know that I've heard of the "grid" |
| 03:28.45 | learner | conglomerate of web services? |
| 03:28.54 | learner | s/services/apps/ ? |
| 03:28.55 | MeBigFatGuy | lemme find it |
| 03:29.22 | MeBigFatGuy | history of the internet, as of 2014 |
| 03:29.55 | learner | epic |
| 03:30.14 | MeBigFatGuy | epic |
| 03:30.15 | MeBigFatGuy | yes |
| 03:30.19 | MeBigFatGuy | it is excellent |
| 03:35.23 | purple_cow | MeBigFatGuy: where did you see that LGPL thing? |
| 03:35.36 | MeBigFatGuy | tim riker's response to a sf post |
| 03:37.21 | purple_cow | which? |
| 03:37.51 | learner | it's visible right after where I shoved my foot in my mouth |
| 03:38.07 | MeBigFatGuy | https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3183003 |
| 03:38.44 | learner | pretty funny video |
| 03:38.50 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 03:38.50 | learner | googlezon! |
| 03:38.53 | MeBigFatGuy | very well done |
| 03:38.54 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 03:39.18 | learner | several silly bits, but indeed polished |
| 03:39.45 | learner | i liked the "sony's electronic paper is cheaper than real paper this year" |
| 03:39.54 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 03:39.55 | learner | that's supposedly in a year or two |
| 03:40.02 | purple_cow | haha |
| 03:41.57 | purple_cow | i love little RMS soldiers |
| 03:42.31 | MeBigFatGuy | any iPod owners? getting $50 in mail |
| 03:42.42 | learner | hmm? |
| 03:42.50 | MeBigFatGuy | some suit settlement |
| 03:42.56 | learner | ahh |
| 03:43.10 | learner | my battery works great |
| 03:43.37 | learner | though I suppose they don't know that |
| 03:43.46 | MeBigFatGuy | i won't tell |
| 03:43.59 | blast007 | http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=814981 |
| 03:46.38 | learner | so if it takes me more than a few minutes to find my receipt, it's basically not worth it.. |
| 03:47.00 | blast007 | :) |
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| 03:57.09 | noyb_ | is it common for a nick to be used by someone else? |
| 03:57.26 | MeBigFatGuy | depends on the nickname |
| 03:57.57 | noyb_ | how does one get it back? |
| 03:58.20 | learner | did you register it? |
| 03:58.26 | noyb_ | yes |
| 03:58.32 | learner | then you can kick them off |
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| 03:58.47 | learner | msg nickserv help ghost |
| 03:59.01 | noyb_ | oh. that seems a little rude. will that cause trouble? |
| 03:59.07 | learner | nope |
| 03:59.12 | noyb_ | ah. thanks. |
| 03:59.16 | learner | they were warned when they joined already |
| 04:00.38 | learner | eh, you have to ghost and then change your nick to it in time |
| 04:01.00 | learner | so kick 'em again |
| 04:01.08 | learner | then /nick noyb |
| 04:03.00 | learner | there ya go :) |
| 04:03.10 | MeBigFatGuy | now identify |
| 04:03.26 | learner | he rejoined as lba_ ;) |
| 04:03.49 | noyb | he joined very quickly after my ghost command. |
| 04:04.15 | learner | probably his client rejoins automatically when it notices |
| 04:04.25 | learner | cause he's not talking |
| 04:04.36 | noyb | thank you, learner. You are most helpful, even off topic. |
| 04:04.50 | noyb | ~learner++ |
| 04:04.55 | learner | thank me in your will |
| 04:04.55 | noyb | :-) |
| 04:05.01 | blast007 | hehe |
| 04:05.05 | noyb | lol |
| 04:06.37 | noyb | I had a power outage about 2 hours ago. |
| 04:06.55 | noyb | that's why I lost my nick. |
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| 04:10.57 | noyb | ... and to my helpful friend: my entire penny colletion and assorted lint... |
| 04:11.28 | learner | woo hoo! .. lint |
| 04:11.47 | noyb | hey, it's the least I could do.... really. |
| 04:11.50 | learner | and 10 billion pennies |
| 04:11.58 | jpa_ | omorniniing |
| 04:12.10 | learner | guten tag |
| 04:12.26 | noyb | if I had 10 billion pennies... you could have my lint, but gold plated. |
| 04:13.43 | noyb | I like the new oncap feature. It certainly ended the death cycle on hepcat. |
| 04:26.55 | Thumper_ | night jpa_ |
| 04:27.27 | Thumper_ | learner: what good is that (thank me...) if you die first? |
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| 06:08.01 | noyb | anyone want to volunteer their favorite bzfs config file? |
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| 10:14.44 | LePoulpe | i have a strange issue : on my current PC with WinXP , all flags (even on top of tanks) are hidden behind a big black strip |
| 10:15.09 | LePoulpe | i've installed bzflag on a half-dozen of pc's , never seen that |
| 10:15.15 | LePoulpe | and this pc was working a week ago |
| 10:16.02 | LePoulpe | i've reinstalled bzflag (without uninstall) and this changes nothing |
| 10:20.16 | BearPerson | AGP fast write on? |
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| 10:21.34 | LePoulpe303 | damned |
| 10:22.24 | LePoulpe303 | anyone awake ? |
| 10:22.52 | Pimpinella | <BearPerson> AGP fast write on? |
| 10:23.37 | Pimpinella | LePoulpe303: ^^^ maybe you didn't get this? |
| 10:24.17 | LePoulpe303 | Pimpinella : no i didn't ! i even wasn't sure my text has been sent ! :) |
| 10:24.28 | LePoulpe303 | so ok my text has been sent |
| 10:24.34 | LePoulpe303 | for agp i have a look |
| 10:24.34 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 10:26.36 | LePoulpe303 | Pimpinella : where could i find this option ? i quickly had a look to ati control panel but i did not see it |
| 10:27.06 | BearPerson | wait... *thinking* |
| 10:27.12 | LePoulpe303 | in the BIOS perhaps |
| 10:27.18 | BearPerson | try SMARTGART |
| 10:27.23 | BearPerson | or whatever it is called |
| 10:27.34 | BearPerson | ati control panel, smartgart |
| 10:27.41 | LePoulpe303 | yup ati control panel |
| 10:27.44 | BearPerson | you can set AGP speed and stuff there |
| 10:29.19 | BearPerson | gah... my bzflag segfaults |
| 10:30.55 | LePoulpe303 | BearPerson : can't see any option for AGP |
| 10:31.26 | BearPerson | there should be somewhere... hmm |
| 10:31.44 | LePoulpe303 | i"ve browsed the whole tree 4 times now ; |
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| 10:42.14 | Pimpinella | LePoulpe303: can you provide us with a screenie? |
| 10:44.03 | LePoulpe303 | Pimpinella : you ask 1/2 second too late !! i've put "reset to defaults" in the ati conytol board and now that's ok |
| 10:44.31 | LePoulpe303 | thanks however BearPerson, Pimpinella |
| 10:45.03 | Pimpinella | even better then :) |
| 10:45.12 | LePoulpe303 | ;) |
| 10:46.40 | LePoulpe303 | i'm totally addicted to this game ; i play it even at lunch time at work ; my face was already becoming gray of having my play time wasted :D |
| 10:48.41 | BearPerson | bzflag still segfaults :/ (latest anon CVS) |
| 10:49.05 | BearPerson | first screen comes up, going down into any menu (tested start game, options) kills it |
| 10:49.33 | BearPerson | pressing esc also kills it |
| 10:50.58 | BearPerson | yikes... ltrace takes like forever scrolling all the messages before bzflag even starts |
| 11:00.13 | Pimpinella | BearPerson: trying here |
| 11:01.14 | Pimpinella | works fine here |
| 11:01.30 | Pimpinella | at least client is unpatched |
| 11:02.26 | BearPerson | hmm... right, mine isn't completely |
| 11:02.44 | BearPerson | though none of it should matter |
| 11:03.57 | BearPerson | hmm... bzflag still running through its startup steps in the ltrace |
| 11:04.04 | BearPerson | I begin to think it was overkill |
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| 11:04.29 | Pimpinella | hi Birdie |
| 11:04.53 | Birdie | good morning/afternoon |
| 11:05.50 | Pimpinella | no recent changes, your copy should match mine |
| 11:06.25 | Pimpinella | try running in gdb |
| 11:09.47 | BearPerson | do I have to do anything so gdb gives keyboard focus to bzflag? |
| 11:09.57 | BearPerson | didn't seem to get my keystrokes |
| 11:10.56 | Pimpinella | no idea, never had to debug the client so far |
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| 11:11.16 | Pimpinella | but was answered before iirc... |
| 11:12.31 | BearPerson | supposedly in "curlProgressFunc ()" |
| 11:12.59 | BearPerson | ah... after the sigsegv the handler isn't executed yet |
| 11:14.20 | BearPerson | 0x081688a4 in curlProgressFunc () |
| 11:14.37 | BearPerson | after 2 cont's "The program no longer exists." lol |
| 11:18.23 | Pimpinella | platform? |
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| 11:19.26 | Pimpinella | ack tupone's the right one for questions on curl :) |
| 11:19.35 | Tupone | :) |
| 11:20.10 | Pimpinella | BearPerson: has segfaults running bzflag |
| 11:20.26 | Tupone | use -d to help on debugging curl, or -d -d |
| 11:20.35 | Pimpinella | <BearPerson> supposedly in "curlProgressFunc ()" |
| 11:20.35 | Pimpinella | <BearPerson> ah... after the sigsegv the handler isn't executed yet |
| 11:20.36 | Pimpinella | <BearPerson> 0x081688a4 in curlProgressFunc () |
| 11:20.36 | Pimpinella | <BearPerson> after 2 cont's "The program no longer exists." lol |
| 11:21.26 | Tupone | when is loading the texture? |
| 11:22.06 | Pimpinella | maybe, i don't load any and it works fine here |
| 11:22.11 | Pimpinella | maybe BearPerson does |
| 11:22.53 | Tupone | if that is regular segv, why not building with debug and getting more info |
| 11:27.02 | BearPerson | setTextureFilter() Couldn't find texid: -1 |
| 11:27.54 | BearPerson | nothing over 3 d's? |
| 11:30.10 | Tupone | that error I get always |
| 11:31.22 | BearPerson | hmm... what's the configure option for debug mode(s)? |
| 11:32.02 | Tupone | --enable-debug |
| 11:32.11 | BearPerson | should've guessed :) |
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| 11:33.05 | CBG | Pimpinella? |
| 11:33.21 | Pimpinella | CGB ! |
| 11:34.49 | CBG | :/ |
| 11:34.49 | Pimpinella | CBG ! |
| 11:34.50 | Pimpinella | of course... |
| 11:34.50 | CBG | I must admit, i'm not impressed with your admins... lol |
| 11:34.50 | Pimpinella | which one in special |
| 11:34.50 | CBG | Ruskie Manu and Jim... Whilst I was on just now, Manu and Jim did not warn anyona about lag... |
| 11:34.50 | CBG | While I warned about 5 people. |
| 11:34.50 | CBG | and ruskie did not seem to think 30ms jitter was bad... O.o |
| 11:34.50 | BearPerson | were they repeated offenders? |
| 11:35.47 | CBG | Two, i believe. |
| 11:35.49 | BearPerson | We have some people with a 350 lag that keep coming back |
| 11:35.49 | CBG | Some had lag of like 800 |
| 11:35.49 | BearPerson | ouch |
| 11:35.49 | CBG | and only one person actually tried to do something about their lag when i spoke to them |
| 11:35.49 | CBG | the others all ignored me and ruskie |
| 11:35.49 | CBG | and since there we admins on, I did not kick, I thought ruskie would... but i dont think he did. |
| 11:35.53 | ruskie | I was kicking them a lot |
| 11:36.01 | CBG | Ruskie and Manu were also playing rather unfairly. |
| 11:36.04 | CBG | Oh, hello ruskie. |
| 11:36.16 | Pimpinella | CBG: they probably didn't notice, still no admin msg on lagkick |
| 11:36.34 | ruskie | CBG, I kept kicking as much as I could... |
| 11:36.38 | Pimpinella | nah, they _never_ play unfair |
| 11:36.43 | CBG | O.o |
| 11:36.46 | BearPerson | lol |
| 11:36.58 | BearPerson | all depends on what you call unfair I guess |
| 11:36.58 | Pimpinella | surely, i've played them much |
| 11:37.02 | Pimpinella | maybe |
| 11:37.03 | ruskie | but among being hunted by tons of ppl and jumpin all around it wask inda hard |
| 11:37.06 | Tupone | unfair means kill without being killed |
| 11:37.07 | CBG | It was 6v3 at one point, and they (other players too) were camping with GM, SW, L, etc |
| 11:37.21 | BearPerson | did you tell them? |
| 11:37.22 | ruskie | nothing unfair in that |
| 11:37.26 | CBG | Really? |
| 11:37.37 | ruskie | CBG, that's only borring... |
| 11:37.41 | ruskie | for both teams imho |
| 11:37.41 | CBG | You think its fun for the 3 who cannt spawn without dieing 3 seconds later. |
| 11:37.41 | Pimpinella | it's common sense on viper |
| 11:37.51 | Pimpinella | it's not ducati |
| 11:38.01 | BearPerson | but that's just me |
| 11:38.07 | CBG | I would have expected an admin to do that... |
| 11:38.09 | Pimpinella | yeah, good idea of course |
| 11:38.15 | ruskie | cbg I couldn't really do much admining since it seems that loki was hunting me all the time |
| 11:38.37 | CBG | Maybe you should have gone obs, which I did at one point when in conversation with one player.. |
| 11:38.50 | ruskie | well I was mostly on for playing... |
| 11:39.01 | ruskie | maybe I should start using my anon account more often... |
| 11:39.05 | CBG | I'm not trying to be mean... I'm trying to be constructive... |
| 11:39.10 | ruskie | it's ok |
| 11:39.12 | Pimpinella | sure |
| 11:39.18 | CBG | There are a lot of folk who will play unfair and bully other players... |
| 11:39.25 | ruskie | but never take for granted that if an admin is on will take care of things |
| 11:39.29 | CBG | I think if tahts the case, admins should try to make it fair... |
| 11:39.40 | CBG | by changing teams, or dropping their GM/whatever... |
| 11:39.43 | Pimpinella | you have powers in order to deal with that stuff, ty for doing so :) |
| 11:39.53 | CBG | Your welcome. :) |
| 11:40.09 | CBG | btw: I love the dynamic colors on the pyras at the bases. :D |
| 11:40.15 | ruskie | only actions I condone are basecamping, geno and sw basecamping(lynch them rust their tanks etc..) |
| 11:40.34 | ruskie | hmmm a rust gun would be nice... |
| 11:40.37 | Pimpinella | trusted was invoked to have more players involved, while not flooding the server with @ |
| 11:40.41 | CBG | There was base and sw camping goin on. |
| 11:40.54 | BearPerson | hmm... seems --enable-debug also turns compile warnings fatal |
| 11:41.05 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 11:41.27 | CBG | Just please, try to keep it fair. Its not fair for the 3 players when the other 6 are camping with GM and stuff... :( |
| 11:41.34 | BearPerson | how could one make them non-fatal again? |
| 11:41.40 | CBG | Change teams... warn folk to play fair... etc |
| 11:41.47 | ruskie | cbg well hold on for the new and improved bzfs with anti-basecamping capabilities :) |
| 11:42.01 | ruskie | shouldn't take much longer I think :) |
| 11:42.02 | CBG | hold-on? Its ready and waiting to go :P |
| 11:42.07 | Tupone | BearPerson: why you have warning? |
| 11:42.25 | Tupone | what OS ? and gcc ? |
| 11:42.26 | Pimpinella | hmm, viper has already some strict rules, don't make it overruled |
| 11:42.41 | BearPerson | linux, gcc 3.4, slightly patched homebrewn version |
| 11:42.49 | ruskie | I think some rules could be more lenient while others should be more enforced... |
| 11:42.49 | BearPerson | HUDRenderer.cxx:1626: warning: unused variable 'localPlayer' |
| 11:42.54 | BearPerson | that might be due to me |
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| 11:43.15 | Tupone | I have zero warning on 3.4 so should be your system ? |
| 11:43.16 | ruskie | i.e. no cursing more lenient while base camping extemly enforced |
| 11:43.18 | CBG | Pimpinella: I just don't appreciate 6 players "Bullying" the other 3. Otherwise, great server. Keep up the good work folks! :) |
| 11:43.36 | ruskie | ~bzfquery bzflag.dtdm.org:5154 |
| 11:43.46 | ruskie | ~bzfquery bzflag.dtdm.net:5154 |
| 11:43.52 | ruskie | :( |
| 11:44.16 | Pimpinella | just porting 1vs1 and @permission patch to current cvs, then changing map |
| 11:44.39 | Pimpinella | then we should be ready for hunting base campers |
| 11:44.53 | ruskie | hmm I really shold start work on my labyrinth map... |
| 11:45.20 | BearPerson | right, that was me |
| 11:45.51 | CBG | O.o |
| 11:47.44 | Pimpinella | seems bzfs doesn't dump cores in my chroot, any idea why? |
| 11:48.03 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@host-84-222-138-82.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 11:48.04 | _Manu_ | no ;) |
| 11:48.26 | BearPerson | lemme see |
| 11:48.39 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, problems with baflag cvs? |
| 11:48.55 | BearPerson | yeah, segfaulting... might be my patchwork patches |
| 11:48.58 | _Manu_ | s/baflag/bzflag |
| 11:49.12 | BearPerson | Though... I like custom scoreboard sorting... |
| 11:49.18 | _Manu_ | it's running fine for me.. just playing with the last version using sourcemage |
| 11:49.45 | BearPerson | I was thinking about adding console patch... hide regular kills and flag pickups/drops |
| 11:50.20 | BearPerson | Pimpinella, I've seen something on the FHS a bit ago about where cores are to be dumped, I'll see if I can find it again |
| 11:50.51 | ruskie | why hide flag pickups drops/kills |
| 11:51.19 | BearPerson | so admin-important messages aren't scrolled off so quickly |
| 11:51.34 | _Manu_ | heh.. press shift + F2 for messages only |
| 11:51.38 | BearPerson | I know |
| 11:51.45 | _Manu_ | and shift+F3 for server messages.. |
| 11:51.46 | BearPerson | but what if I need a joiner's IP? |
| 11:52.15 | BearPerson | bzflag seems to have a bug that it doesn't store IPs for people coming in after the initial ipinfo from the server |
| 11:52.22 | _Manu_ | for what? :) |
| 11:52.58 | _Manu_ | you also can run: bzflag -echo > yourlogfile |
| 11:53.11 | _Manu_ | then you have all the messages |
| 11:53.14 | BearPerson | I like putting a suspected TK/cheater's IP on /highlight |
| 11:53.18 | BearPerson | hey, thanks for that one |
| 11:53.25 | Pimpinella | /playerlist should help you anyway, no? |
| 11:54.07 | BearPerson | not when he just left |
| 11:54.18 | Pimpinella | true |
| 11:54.31 | BearPerson | maybe I should just debug the IP saving |
| 11:54.54 | BearPerson | I'd still like a more overviewable general console... joins/parts and TKs are important to me |
| 11:55.09 | BearPerson | kills and flag pickups/drops very irrelevant |
| 11:57.04 | ruskie | BearPerson, maybe add an #admin console? |
| 11:57.13 | BearPerson | maybe |
| 11:58.30 | Pimpinella | ? |
| 11:58.48 | BearPerson | I still don't get too informative debug info |
| 11:59.09 | BearPerson | ah, my bad |
| 11:59.30 | Pimpinella | use ddd, it's sometimes more intuitive |
| 12:03.51 | BearPerson | I do |
| 12:05.53 | BearPerson | Pimpinella, bzfs does have write permission where it'd dump core, right? |
| 12:06.12 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 12:07.30 | BearPerson | okay, new bzflag compile with -Wno-error and -g |
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| 12:12.25 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 12:12.33 | BearPerson | now where did that -s come from... :/ |
| 12:12.47 | ruskie | make make install? |
| 12:16.18 | Pimpinella | ~bzflist |
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| 12:22.58 | BearPerson | Hmm... still get the thing stripped even with --enable-debug |
| 12:23.15 | ruskie | grep for -s :) |
| 12:23.46 | Tupone | :( it shuould not ... running the new bzflag ? |
| 12:24.42 | BearPerson | maybe --enable-threads did it |
| 12:24.56 | BearPerson | there's a -s in something specifying the curl libraries |
| 12:25.06 | Tupone | eek, do not enable-threads |
| 12:25.24 | Tupone | that is probably the crashying things |
| 12:25.54 | Tupone | I added enable-threads, but that was just to support kerberos, better remove, as is not tested |
| 12:25.57 | BearPerson | didn't before |
| 12:26.02 | BearPerson | crashed without it |
| 12:26.06 | BearPerson | hmm... |
| 12:26.32 | Tupone | ok ... I know the progres function can crash with threads |
| 12:26.48 | BearPerson | I suppose I'll try and hunt down the IPs bug today... |
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| 12:30.45 | BearPerson | looks like it's a one-line-fix |
| 12:31.03 | BearPerson | still doing -s... |
| 12:31.32 | Tupone | curl-config --libs |
| 12:33.43 | BearPerson | ah, right... there was a -s in there I think |
| 12:34.00 | BearPerson | Yes, IP info /is/ a one-line-fix |
| 12:34.41 | BearPerson | I'll see if it breaks anything, then should I just tell it to someone here, submit a bug, or make a patch and submit? |
| 12:34.57 | Tupone | submit a bug with a patch |
| 12:35.16 | Tupone | or ... well, if it is just one line, paste here |
| 12:35.18 | BearPerson | for one line.. |
| 12:37.00 | BearPerson | playing.cxx, MsgAdminInfo handler: The _player->setIpAddress(addr); needs to be copied to the if(numIPs == 1) as tank->setIpAddress(ip); |
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| 12:46.47 | Tupone | better wait learner who seems have written those piece of code :/ I have to understand it before patching |
| 12:46.51 | Tupone | learner: ping |
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| 12:55.21 | Pimpinella | menotume: ping |
| 12:55.30 | menotume | hellos :) |
| 12:55.36 | Pimpinella | :) |
| 12:55.54 | Pimpinella | once again trying to track down the match server crashes |
| 12:56.02 | Pimpinella | time for a test? |
| 12:56.06 | menotume | sure |
| 12:56.11 | Pimpinella | cu there? |
| 12:56.17 | menotume | okies |
| 12:58.59 | learner | Tupone: pong |
| 12:59.08 | Tupone | :) |
| 12:59.09 | learner | i wrote something? |
| 12:59.13 | Tupone | see ^^^ |
| 12:59.20 | Tupone | playing.cxx |
| 12:59.24 | Tupone | you did :) |
| 12:59.31 | Tupone | or was brlcad : |
| 12:59.35 | Tupone | / |
| 13:00.55 | menotume | Pimpinella: I was gonna try to reproduce it myself (like before), but i get 'game in progress' - no permiss to /gameover |
| 13:01.34 | learner | playing.cxx? what's the code? |
| 13:01.49 | learner | i've only done a little in there, so if there's a bug, that's probably where it'd be |
| 13:02.26 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.41 | Tupone | I have no clue what is it doing :( |
| 13:03.41 | learner | ahh, admininfo packets |
| 13:04.43 | learner | it sets the players ip address, which gets sent to admins when admins join |
| 13:06.32 | Tupone | that change sounds good ? if you know what it means :) |
| 13:06.37 | Tupone | I dont :( |
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| 13:07.55 | BearPerson | learner, the problem is that right now, IP info is saved when the admin joins but not when others join once he's in |
| 13:09.11 | BearPerson | ouch |
| 13:09.33 | BearPerson | it was the sound... bzflag starts crashing when it tries to play a sound but the sound device is taken |
| 13:09.50 | Pimpinella | menotume: fixed, you can /gameover now |
| 13:10.04 | Pimpinella | just in case |
| 13:10.08 | Birdie | lol again problems with /gameover? |
| 13:11.26 | Pimpinella | no, meno wasn't in local.cpos on 59998 |
| 13:11.32 | Pimpinella | local cops |
| 13:11.58 | menotume | ahh, ok, thx |
| 13:14.47 | menotume | I can't reproduce it as easily as before. Perhaps the /gameover is resetting something (as it should) |
| 13:14.52 | menotume | I'll keep trying |
| 13:16.31 | Pimpinella | gameover resets a lot of things, yes |
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| 13:35.26 | menotume | learner: got a minute ? |
| 13:54.45 | ruskie | Unknown signal 127 (core dumped) |
| 13:54.47 | ruskie | ups |
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| 14:00.06 | ToughShooter | ~weather EDDF |
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| 14:02.15 | Bagheera | oy, 82, a little warm |
| 14:02.27 | menotume | at 10am? |
| 14:02.30 | menotume | summer is here |
| 14:03.11 | Bagheera | 82 in frankfurt........which is nearly dusk |
| 14:03.26 | Bagheera | ~weather knak |
| 14:04.22 | Pimpinella | no dusk |
| 14:04.31 | Pimpinella | 16:00 |
| 14:05.02 | Bagheera | 2-3 hours...it will be |
| 14:05.11 | Pimpinella | nah... |
| 14:05.30 | menotume | 4-5 hours :) |
| 14:05.35 | Bagheera | its still warm for afternoon |
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| 14:06.02 | Pimpinella | ~weather ETNJ |
| 14:06.18 | jolie | lovely hot! |
| 14:06.34 | Bagheera | see, i am not the only one |
| 14:08.39 | menotume | ~weather kttn |
| 14:08.50 | menotume | cold spell :) |
| 14:10.24 | Birdie | ~weather antwerp Belgium |
| 14:10.34 | jolie | meno meno |
| 14:10.35 | Birdie | :( |
| 14:10.37 | jolie | <3<3 |
| 14:10.55 | menotume | hey hey |
| 14:10.59 | jolie | hey |
| 14:11.36 | Birdie | !weather antwerp |
| 14:11.38 | guu | Birdie: The current temperature in Antwerp, Belgium is 81°F (3:50 PM CEST on June 03, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 57°F. Pressure: 29.71 in (1006 hPa). |
| 14:11.51 | Birdie | guu: your my buddy |
| 14:11.52 | guu | Birdie: are you 10? |
| 14:11.52 | BearPerson | !weather aachen |
| 14:11.53 | guu | BearPerson: The current temperature in Aachen, Germany is 81°F (4:05 PM CEST on June 03, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 50°F. UV: 5 out of 16 |
| 14:11.58 | menotume | ~weather ebaw |
| 14:12.10 | Birdie | ty meno |
| 14:12.14 | menotume | :) |
| 14:12.33 | Birdie | 28C but there will thunder and lightening this evening:( |
| 14:12.55 | jolie | yaaays! for thunderssss |
| 14:13.55 | Birdie | thunder = a non pc, non tv evening |
| 14:13.59 | menotume | a bolt of lightning will come right thru your monitor ....... fride birdie |
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| 14:14.12 | Birdie | my mom really thinks that.. |
| 14:14.23 | Birdie | well not through the monitor:) |
| 14:14.28 | menotume | heh, it happened to our family one |
| 14:14.34 | Birdie | oh? |
| 14:14.52 | jolie | X-D |
| 14:14.59 | menotume | one ... thru the antenaa wire, a small bolt literaal came out the front of the TV - we saw it |
| 14:15.09 | Birdie | brrr |
| 14:15.29 | Pimpinella | my dsl modem got struck by a lightning while i was sitting next to it once |
| 14:15.56 | menotume | the antenna wire litterally melted, and the copper wire expoled out of the casing |
| 14:15.59 | Pimpinella | through the telephone wire |
| 14:16.29 | Birdie | ugh, maybe its better if i listen to my mom for once and close the pc:) |
| 14:16.41 | menotume | nahhhh |
| 14:16.51 | Pimpinella | no risc no fun |
| 14:16.52 | menotume | it'll never happen to you :) |
| 14:17.15 | Birdie | you want that the lightening hurts me so you have a toasted bid |
| 14:17.16 | Birdie | bird |
| 14:17.18 | jolie | no risk no fun |
| 14:17.29 | Pimpinella | aiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeee, c++ gurus, where are you? |
| 14:17.30 | Birdie | no risk no toasted bird |
| 14:17.38 | Birdie | :) |
| 14:17.51 | jolie | what do you need Pimpinella ? |
| 14:18.07 | Pimpinella | for (std::vector<std::string>::iterator itr = groups.begin(); itr != groups.end(); itr++) |
| 14:18.16 | Pimpinella | always worked |
| 14:18.20 | Pimpinella | now: |
| 14:19.03 | BearPerson | now nothing? ;-) |
| 14:19.09 | Pimpinella | hm, wait a moment... |
| 14:19.10 | jolie | now silence? |
| 14:19.25 | blast007 | BearPerson: I was just about to say that ;D |
| 14:19.25 | Pimpinella | /usr/include/c++/3.3/bits/stl_iterator.h: In constructor ` |
| 14:19.25 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.25 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.25 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.25 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.26 | Pimpinella | Permissions.cxx:247: instantiated from here |
| 14:19.28 | Pimpinella | /usr/include/c++/3.3/bits/stl_iterator.h:598: error: invalid conversion from ` |
| 14:19.30 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.50 | Pimpinella | why const? |
| 14:19.50 | Chestal | Pimpinella: are you workign on a const vector reference? |
| 14:20.07 | Pimpinella | not that i know of |
| 14:20.18 | Chestal | well, what is the exact type of groups? |
| 14:20.39 | Pimpinella | groups is std::vector<std::string> |
| 14:20.41 | Chestal | let me have a look at that file |
| 14:20.56 | Pimpinella | nah, not in cvs |
| 14:21.14 | Pimpinella | but it used to work exactly that way |
| 14:21.30 | Chestal | line 247 is the for loop? |
| 14:22.07 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.07 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.07 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.07 | Pimpinella | if (group->second.explicitDenys.test(right)) |
| 14:22.07 | Pimpinella | return false; |
| 14:22.07 | Pimpinella | else if (group->second.explicitAllows.test(right)) |
| 14:22.08 | Pimpinella | isAllowed = true; |
| 14:22.11 | Pimpinella | } |
| 14:22.28 | Pimpinella | cycling through groups |
| 14:22.34 | Chestal | and what is line 247? |
| 14:22.44 | Pimpinella | the first one |
| 14:23.31 | Pimpinella | if i make it std::vector<const std::string> it complains about no operator!= for itr |
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| 14:24.11 | blast007 | hmm...I might be missing something, but it looks like you are creating the 'group' variable inside the loop |
| 14:24.26 | Chestal | is that isnide a const member function? |
| 14:24.35 | Chestal | than groups is const and you neec const_iterator |
| 14:24.48 | Pimpinella | yeah, seems it's const |
| 14:24.49 | blast007 | oh wait, nvm.. |
| 14:24.49 | Pimpinella | now |
| 14:24.54 | blast007 | groups != group ;) |
| 14:25.25 | Pimpinella | somebody might have made it const |
| 14:26.54 | Pimpinella | whats the benefit of making it const? |
| 14:26.58 | Pimpinella | don't get it |
| 14:27.19 | Chestal | if it doesn'tr modify the object, it should be const |
| 14:29.08 | Pimpinella | i don't modify it, so whats the trick to make it work without removing const? choosing a different kind of iterator? |
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| 14:29.19 | Chestal | what is isallowed? |
| 14:29.28 | Pimpinella | bool |
| 14:29.32 | Chestal | Pimpinella: read above :-) use const_iterator |
| 14:29.33 | Pimpinella | local |
| 14:29.41 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 14:29.45 | Chestal | for itr |
| 14:29.46 | Pimpinella | so easy |
| 14:32.42 | Pimpinella | stl has still tripwires for me :/ |
| 14:33.34 | jolie | what is the error message now ? |
| 14:33.45 | Pimpinella | build fine now, ty all |
| 14:34.09 | Pimpinella | removing const or using const_iterator both worked fine |
| 14:34.29 | Pimpinella | used the latter ;) |
| 14:34.47 | jolie | i was for removing const |
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| 15:23.44 | Pimpinella | wow, it's raining like hell |
| 15:23.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Tell admins about lagkicks |
| 15:24.33 | jolie | here soon heavin will break |
| 15:26.33 | BearPerson | nothing down here yet, but soon |
| 15:26.41 | BearPerson | Pimpinella, T-H-A-N-K-S ;-) |
| 15:27.27 | Pimpinella | np ;) |
| 15:28.34 | Pimpinella | would have expectedto have it raining soon at you while it will at jolie ;) |
| 15:28.51 | jolie | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.56 | jolie | say that again in english please... |
| 15:29.05 | Pimpinella | noe |
| 15:29.11 | jolie | damm |
| 15:29.39 | BearPerson | lightning and thunder, but no water coming down yet |
| 15:29.46 | jolie | ahhhhh |
| 15:29.48 | jolie | duh! |
| 15:30.00 | jolie | ... |
| 15:30.06 | Pimpinella | ihr wohnt beide in Frankfurt, da darf man erwarten, dass es bei BearPerson gleich regnet wenn es das auch bei dir gleich tut... |
| 15:30.22 | jolie | i got it... |
| 15:31.14 | jolie | wir wohnen in frankfurt? |
| 15:31.23 | jolie | hum.. |
| 15:31.46 | Pimpinella | dachte ich jedenfalls, kann natürlich auch anders sein... |
| 15:31.58 | jolie | hm.... |
| 15:32.07 | Pimpinella | BearPerson: any other admin messages desired? |
| 15:32.10 | BearPerson | naja, hier Aachen |
| 15:32.15 | BearPerson | let me think... |
| 15:32.26 | Pimpinella | richtig, ToughShooter war frankfurt... |
| 15:32.50 | BearPerson | ~weather ETBA |
| 15:33.01 | jolie | this will be soo cool!!!! |
| 15:33.03 | jolie | forrest is just outside my home |
| 15:33.06 | jolie | X-D |
| 15:33.32 | Pimpinella | :/ |
| 15:33.37 | jolie | ich auch! |
| 15:33.40 | jolie | why :/ ? |
| 15:33.49 | BearPerson | ~weather 10503 |
| 15:34.00 | Pimpinella | auf baeume klettern? |
| 15:34.21 | jolie | ich bin kein katze |
| 15:34.27 | BearPerson | And it started raining... |
| 15:34.36 | Pimpinella | BearPerson: any other admin messages desired? |
| 15:34.37 | jolie | go sing in the rain |
| 15:34.42 | jolie | wear a pretty dress |
| 15:34.47 | jolie | and run around in cricles :D |
| 15:35.13 | BearPerson | why wear a pretty dress? Why wear anything? ;-) |
| 15:35.24 | jolie | uhm.. |
| 15:35.27 | BearPerson | Pimpinella, thinking... what else gets players kicked... hmm |
| 15:35.29 | jolie | well.. |
| 15:36.41 | Pimpinella | maybe we need a jitterkick |
| 15:36.42 | BearPerson | I've seen a change somewhere adding a "plugin" to allow admis to see a player's last said chat... |
| 15:36.42 | BearPerson | do we have something like that? |
| 15:36.42 | Pimpinella | not yet |
| 15:36.43 | ToughShooter | Pimpinella: Hier hat's aber kein einziges Zeichen von Gewitter oder dergleichen gegeben. :D |
| 15:36.54 | Pimpinella | na dann... |
| 15:37.04 | jolie | ich glaube das nichts! |
| 15:37.21 | BearPerson | Pimpinella, can't think of anything currently... go ahead |
| 15:37.47 | BearPerson | eventually a "has used 10 swear words in the last 5 minutes" could be nice, but that requires code patching |
| 15:39.24 | Pimpinella | could be done |
| 15:39.49 | BearPerson | sure... but isn't too neccessary |
| 15:40.40 | Pimpinella | problem is, that any change of that kind makes bzfs more "smelly" since it's losing more and more it's (already poor) design |
| 15:41.21 | BearPerson | true |
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| 15:50.07 | CBG | I learnt a valuable lesson today: You can make friends by giving away points in the 1vs1 tourny. :D |
| 15:51.25 | Pimpinella | poor frinds :/ |
| 15:51.33 | Pimpinella | friends |
| 15:51.34 | CBG | lol :D |
| 15:51.51 | jolie | i hate diapers! |
| 15:51.51 | jolie | >_< |
| 15:52.11 | CBG | rofl |
| 15:54.36 | jolie | damm sure i would!!!! |
| 15:54.44 | jolie | he should go to potti on his own.... |
| 15:54.46 | jolie | >_< |
| 15:54.52 | CBG | but, he cant... |
| 15:55.01 | CBG | so what would he do without diapers? |
| 15:55.04 | jolie | ... |
| 15:55.08 | BearPerson | unless you declare the carpet to be potty |
| 15:55.10 | CBG | you have to clean the carpets... :( |
| 15:55.12 | BearPerson | then he probably could |
| 15:55.16 | CBG | Yeah, sure... |
| 15:55.18 | CBG | :/ |
| 15:55.24 | jolie | same thing he did to me yesterday in the ... carrousel... |
| 15:55.35 | jolie | poop all over me.... |
| 15:55.43 | CBG | jolie: put lino down all over the house... then he can run (and poop) free |
| 15:55.58 | jolie | he isnt a dog... |
| 15:56.05 | jolie | but after how he pooped yesterday ... |
| 15:56.15 | CBG | :( |
| 15:56.30 | BearPerson | so the diaper was bad? |
| 15:56.34 | jolie | you see me drying his butt with the hand drier >_< |
| 15:56.42 | jolie | no he just pooped WAY too much. |
| 15:56.46 | jolie | lovely talk BTW. |
| 15:56.49 | BearPerson | indeed |
| 15:56.50 | CBG | lol |
| 15:57.01 | CBG | look at this happy little kiddy on the lino: http://www.ecofriendlyflooring.com/images/MarinaLino.jpg |
| 15:57.05 | Birdie | drying a butt with a hand drier? lol |
| 15:57.22 | CBG | Birdie: dont remember last weekend? |
| 15:57.32 | Birdie | what about it? |
| 15:57.40 | CBG | hope it didnt burn ya butt. :P |
| 15:57.49 | Birdie | au |
| 15:57.53 | CBG | hehe |
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| 15:59.53 | jolie | hahha |
| 15:59.55 | CBG | Talk of the devil............ ;) |
| 15:59.58 | jolie | he will ^_^ |
| 16:00.05 | jolie | hahahahhahaha |
| 16:00.05 | jolie | hahaha |
| 16:00.37 | jolie | i swear |
| 16:00.44 | jolie | if you would have said something more witty |
| 16:00.49 | jolie | i will be bashing you right now :D |
| 16:01.39 | CBG | why bash me for being witty|? :P |
| 16:08.16 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:08.33 | CBG | huh what? |
| 16:08.37 | BearPerson | ... no comment ... |
| 16:22.45 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o jolie] by JeffM2501 |
| 16:22.55 | CBG | :o |
| 16:22.58 | JeffM2501 | how do you know guu dosn't just log it all? |
| 16:23.08 | CBG | Hmm? |
| 16:23.13 | CBG | ibot logs it all... |
| 16:23.19 | JeffM2501 | it does |
| 16:23.26 | CBG | ~logs |
| 16:23.27 | ibot | hmm... logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 16:23.37 | CBG | :) so whats your point? :S |
| 16:24.08 | jolie | logs are evil |
| 16:24.14 | jolie | you run CBG run... |
| 16:24.17 | jolie | :P |
| 16:24.17 | JeffM2501 | kinda wondering what yuor point is |
| 16:24.31 | CBG | I didnt want to make a point... |
| 16:24.36 | jolie | JeffM2501: ^_^ |
| 16:24.43 | CBG | you just randomly said "how do you know guu dosn't just log it all?"... |
| 16:24.45 | JeffM2501 | wanting to, and making one are difrent things :) |
| 16:24.53 | CBG | which surely is irrelevant if ibot logs all... |
| 16:25.06 | JeffM2501 | well you indicated there were things I should not see that were said before I arived |
| 16:25.31 | CBG | yes.... but I dont see how that explains your comment about guu logging... |
| 16:25.32 | jolie | no he said, he better run before you see what he said |
| 16:25.46 | JeffM2501 | that implies I would not like what I saw |
| 16:26.06 | jolie | one way to find out |
| 16:26.18 | CBG | todays log is not up yet jolie. |
| 16:26.21 | jolie | but still doesnt mean you shouldnt see it |
| 16:26.31 | jolie | oh.. i could friendly paste it :D |
| 16:26.40 | CBG | you could... |
| 16:26.43 | CBG | ~pastebin |
| 16:26.45 | ibot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 16:26.45 | JeffM2501 | goes at 2400gmt |
| 16:26.50 | jolie | now.. would i ? |
| 16:28.38 | CBG | I would... |
| 16:28.42 | CBG | I have... [16:50] CBG: I learnt a valuable lesson today: You can make friends by giving away points in the 1vs1 tourny. |
| 16:28.45 | CBG | [16:51] Pimpinella: poor frinds |
| 16:28.48 | CBG | [16:51] Pimpinella: friends |
| 16:28.50 | CBG | [16:51] CBG: lol |
| 16:28.53 | CBG | [16:51] jolie: i hate diapers! |
| 16:28.55 | CBG | [16:51] jolie: >_< |
| 16:28.58 | CBG | [16:52] CBG: rofl |
| 16:29.01 | CBG | [16:53] tango_ left the chat room. ("Leaving") |
| 16:29.03 | CBG | [16:53] BearPerson: wonders if jolie would be happier without them |
| 16:29.06 | CBG | [16:54] jolie: damm sure i would!!!! |
| 16:29.08 | CBG | [16:54] jolie: he should go to potti on his own.... |
| 16:29.11 | CBG | [16:54] jolie: >_< |
| 16:29.13 | CBG | [16:54] CBG: but, he cant... |
| 16:29.16 | CBG | [16:55] CBG: so what would he do without diapers? |
| 16:29.19 | CBG | [16:55] jolie: ... |
| 16:29.21 | CBG | [16:55] BearPerson: unless you declare the carpet to be potty |
| 16:29.23 | jolie | erk... |
| 16:29.23 | CBG | [16:55] CBG: you have to clean the carpets... |
| 16:29.26 | CBG | [16:55] BearPerson: then he probably could |
| 16:29.28 | CBG | [16:55] CBG: Yeah, sure... |
| 16:29.31 | CBG | [16:55] CBG: |
| 16:29.33 | CBG | [16:55] jolie: same thing he did to me yesterday in the ... carrousel... |
| 16:29.36 | Birdie | i guess he can read logs to, this is onlyu annoying for people who read this every day.. |
| 16:29.36 | CBG | [16:55] jolie: poop all over me.... |
| 16:29.38 | CBG | [16:55] CBG: jolie: put lino down all over the house... then he can run (and poop) free |
| 16:29.39 | *** kick/#bzflag [CBG!thilo@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de] by Chestal (begone) |
| 16:29.54 | Birdie | :) |
| 16:29.59 | jolie | aww |
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| 16:30.50 | CBG | so sorry guys... http://pastebin.ca/13280 is the link |
| 16:30.59 | JeffM2501 | was it not you who sugested pastebin in the first place? |
| 16:31.16 | CBG | for some reason, after i posted the chat to pastebin, it did not copy the url... :( |
| 16:31.41 | JeffM2501 | wow that his horibly booring for all that |
| 16:31.45 | CBG | i think maybe i have a dodgy C key :( |
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| 16:45.31 | ruskie | I hate base campers.... gaaaaaqhahhaahahhaahzhaaqhwhahahahahahahaha |
| 16:47.10 | ruskie | better not play again until I cool down |
| 16:48.19 | JeffM2501 | upgrade your server, and add base clearing world weapons |
| 16:48.26 | ruskie | it's on viper :) |
| 16:48.29 | ruskie | not my server :) |
| 16:48.35 | JeffM2501 | upgrade viper :) |
| 16:48.38 | JeffM2501 | or tell them to |
| 16:48.56 | ruskie | the hardest part of being a cop/admin is resisting /kill annoyingbasecamper |
| 16:49.16 | JeffM2501 | wonder if plugin could for just a respawn on cap |
| 16:50.36 | JeffM2501 | don't think client will allow for a respawn that isn't a death. |
| 16:51.19 | JeffM2501 | the way I'd do CTF would be, on cap, stop keeping scores of player deaths, give a 10 sec timer, and then reset the entire system |
| 16:51.33 | JeffM2501 | then have it all go to a max cap score |
| 16:51.42 | JeffM2501 | when that's done, then reset it all and it's a new "game" |
| 16:51.45 | JeffM2501 | or 'Match' |
| 16:56.17 | Pimpinella | ruskie: if you wanna press it, get the map and add world weapons and event triggering |
| 16:56.54 | Pimpinella | _Manu_ can provide you with the latest (commented) version of the map |
| 16:57.08 | Pimpinella | or maybe me to... |
| 17:01.11 | Pimpinella | http://balin.pimpi.org/newviper.bzw |
| 17:01.17 | Pimpinella | thats it |
| 17:02.26 | Birdie | several players play for score and are not happy with that clear base worldwapon stuff |
| 17:02.40 | Pimpinella | not my problem |
| 17:03.03 | Birdie | and also like on hepcat, (dunno if you know the map overlord) the whole tower(several buildings) is cleared with shockwave, so much players die |
| 17:03.56 | Birdie | btw the newest tactic: getting shield flag and camp:) |
| 17:04.32 | orange | but at least you're left camping with only three normal shots |
| 17:04.48 | Birdie | if you camp with shield, you have to take the flag and go down |
| 17:04.53 | Birdie | otherwise your always dead |
| 17:05.07 | Pimpinella | i know the map, i don't think everything should be cleared. but base camping should at least require skill |
| 17:05.16 | orange | so we should set the world weapons to fire twice immediately |
| 17:05.30 | Birdie | right, if you want to use it, do it 2 times |
| 17:05.46 | Birdie | (if you want to prevent all the camping) |
| 17:05.57 | Pimpinella | needs probably a plugin of it's own |
| 17:06.13 | orange | what bugs me is to be playing and have 3 or 4 of my teammates all waiting to camp, and nobody getting the flag |
| 17:06.25 | orange | some will even go set up camp while the opposing team flag is still on their base |
| 17:06.25 | Pimpinella | yeah... |
| 17:06.28 | orange | it's stupid |
| 17:06.55 | Birdie | thats why the worldweapon is cool |
| 17:07.06 | bunny | haha |
| 17:07.07 | Birdie | at least you force them in some way to play |
| 17:07.11 | bunny | if you join #hug-bunny |
| 17:07.13 | orange | and in my opinion the #1 reason to remove geno flag from the game is to keep people from camping and catching new players joining |
| 17:07.16 | bunny | would get dizzi |
| 17:07.17 | bunny | lol* |
| 17:07.26 | BunnyBoy | i sometimes use that callsign |
| 17:07.31 | Birdie | (its removed again on hepcat?) |
| 17:07.37 | orange | I don't know... I hope so |
| 17:07.44 | orange | hepcat is down anyway |
| 17:07.52 | bunny-bird | it was crazy lag yesterday |
| 17:08.00 | bunny-bird | 500, 10% lost for every one |
| 17:09.41 | orange | camping with geno waiting for new players to join has to be the very worst score-whoring I've seen |
| 17:10.13 | bunny-bird | yea thats really patethetic and lame |
| 17:10.17 | bunny-bird | i NEVER used geno like that |
| 17:10.37 | orange | most people don't since they realize how unsportsmanlike it is |
| 17:10.49 | orange | but it only takes a few to ruin it for the many |
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| 17:26.13 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: ping |
| 17:26.38 | ruskie | BunnyBoy, I haven't even started work on my own map... :)) |
| 17:26.59 | ruskie | but seems that going under my anon alias it was better since nobody wanted to hunt the poor newbie :) |
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| 17:27.11 | lazyGuy | hi |
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| 17:30.59 | freelancer | howdy |
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| 18:00.47 | thelastdalec | does any one know how to only have one team flag fin CTF mode? |
| 18:01.15 | JeffM2501 | one flag CTF isn't a normal mode |
| 18:01.20 | orange | don't allow players of the team you don't want to have a flag |
| 18:01.24 | ruskie | hlol |
| 18:01.32 | ruskie | put the other flag high above unreachable :) |
| 18:01.45 | JeffM2501 | mod your server |
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| 18:01.56 | thelastdalec | what is that? |
| 18:01.57 | ruskie | hmm though would be nice to see a CTF game where the goal really is cpaturing the flag that would do some on even trigger |
| 18:02.12 | ruskie | without killing the oposing team |
| 18:02.40 | JeffM2501 | thelastdalec, do you want one flag for more then one team to caputre? or one flag that more then one team caputres? |
| 18:02.47 | orange | I worked with Quol on an htf map that needed characteristics like that |
| 18:02.50 | JeffM2501 | aka what are you trying to do? |
| 18:02.57 | thelastdalec | no its that when you pick up your team flag and put it down some place another turns up at your base |
| 18:03.20 | ruskie | O.o |
| 18:05.33 | orange | borked up flag options for bzfs? |
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| 18:07.53 | rooter | does anyone here have /gameover privs on dub 59998? |
| 18:08.44 | rooter | nm.. i found someone |
| 18:08.46 | rooter | thanks |
| 18:18.44 | jolie | DA storm |
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| 19:04.17 | brlcad | wee.. someone else discovers the trackerr |
| 19:09.56 | brlcad | goodness, he's on a rampage |
| 19:10.03 | brlcad | I think he's going to respond to them all... |
| 19:10.17 | brlcad | maybe I should update the tasker at the same time.. |
| 19:21.45 | BearPerson | ruskie, so, you redoing the viper map? :) |
| 19:31.34 | purple_cow | brlcad: hehe |
| 19:32.41 | purple_cow | the posts seem to be getting less and less coherent as he goes |
| 19:33.31 | DTRemenak | I'm not sure he's even reading the text he's responding to :) |
| 19:34.01 | DTRemenak | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248 |
| 19:34.11 | Bagheera | ....nobody told SportChick about big brother did they... |
| 19:35.14 | BunnyBoy | BearPerson: ppl pove you ;) |
| 19:35.15 | SportChick | okay, WHO discovered the tracker? (I've seen the tracker before, but didn't realize it was THE tracker) |
| 19:35.47 | DTRemenak | couple people apparently...who combined have made ~50 posts in the last 24 hours |
| 19:35.56 | SportChick | eek! |
| 19:36.00 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 19:36.13 | Bagheera | yugi has found a new profession maybe |
| 19:36.21 | SportChick | oh! HIM.... |
| 19:37.57 | BunnyBoy | ~dict pove |
| 19:38.09 | BunnyBoy | thought so |
| 19:38.16 | BunnyBoy | was meant to be love |
| 19:39.16 | SportChick | could have meant "prove" |
| 19:42.22 | brlcad | and for many of us that actually track the tracker (i.e. most devs), that has resulted in either 50 or 100 e-mails ;) |
| 19:42.38 | purple_cow | i wonder where these kids get the idea that adding comments to tracker items is helpful in any way |
| 19:42.51 | BearPerson | BunnyBoy, I just muted a spammer... usual reaction I guess |
| 19:42.58 | BearPerson | /report spamming => ban |
| 19:43.06 | SportChick | brlcad: ewwwwwwwww |
| 19:46.30 | DTRemenak | brlcad: there's a reason I get them in digest form :) |
| 19:47.13 | SportChick | BunnyBoy: that's a good question. I would like to propose that there be a way to permanently mute a callsign. |
| 19:47.19 | SportChick | oops |
| 19:47.28 | SportChick | that was supposed to be "bunny-bird" |
| 19:47.49 | jpa_ | noih |
| 19:47.52 | jpa_ | äh |
| 19:47.58 | jpa_ | ww |
| 19:48.13 | DTRemenak | SportChick: you can remove TALK from them |
| 19:48.30 | SportChick | DTRemenak: doesn't the server have to have special config for that? |
| 19:49.01 | DTRemenak | just needs to have a group like "MOUTH: -TALK" so you can /addgroup "Callsign" MOUTH |
| 19:49.51 | SportChick | DTRemenak: I see. the only issue I have with that is that the only folks who can add someone to groups (under our current setup) are full admins (not cops). Often though, the perma-mute would need to be done by an ops |
| 19:49.51 | DTRemenak | probably be a good idea to have mute automatically set the permission on the user |
| 19:50.25 | DTRemenak | SportChick: you can also set it up so that people can add to certain groups but not to others...so you can have cops allowed to add people to MOUTH but not to COPS |
| 19:51.10 | SportChick | DTRemenak: really? is there a faq on that somewhere? |
| 19:51.30 | DTRemenak | SportChick: it's probably in the manpage |
| 19:53.46 | ndim | thats prolly incorrect. |
| 19:54.34 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 20:02.05 | purple_cow | yay |
| 20:02.14 | purple_cow | the fedex guy just brought me a bunch of hard disks |
| 20:04.13 | bunny-bird | dtremenak: may i trust YOU, that the mute will work for ever in the next release? |
| 20:04.22 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 20:04.47 | DTRemenak | you may trust yourself if you write the patch to do it though :) |
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| 20:05.26 | bunny-bird | well..that could be a problem |
| 20:05.27 | bunny-bird | :) |
| 20:05.40 | bunny-bird | but i'll use my charmes to ask orchid, she wrote the normal mute |
| 20:05.41 | DTRemenak | otherwise you can trust chance :) |
| 20:07.15 | bunny-bird | hm i'll trust my charmes more |
| 20:09.37 | Bagheera | next thing you know these bunnys will start hugging and stuff...... |
| 20:09.49 | bunny | hah |
| 20:09.55 | bunny-bird | wont you like that? |
| 20:10.22 | Lagomorph | wait...bagheera...panther... |
| 20:10.56 | Bagheera | wait, i was just getting the hosenphefer sauce |
| 20:11.09 | bunny | uh |
| 20:11.15 | SportChick | on a more serious note (well, somewhat anyway), is the next release slated to include muting by slot number? |
| 20:15.05 | Lagomorph | SportChick: that has not been implemented yet |
| 20:15.17 | Lagomorph | who knows what the next release will include :) |
| 20:16.18 | blast007 | :) |
| 20:16.46 | Lagomorph | ~dict implement |
| 20:17.02 | bryjen | yes, that's what he means. but he may be wrong. |
| 20:17.16 | Lagomorph | "bring to pass" that sounds about right :) |
| 20:18.22 | Lagomorph | SportChick: an implementation is what makes the thing actually work. first you have an idea, then you might spec out an interface, then you implement it. |
| 20:20.04 | bryjen | ~dict 3 implement |
| 20:20.16 | bryjen | so if I call you an implement.... |
| 20:20.24 | Lagomorph | you tool :) |
| 20:23.23 | bryjen | src/bzfs/commands.cxx: revision 2.54; date: 2005/04/16 10:00:10; author: jujibo; Added slots option to mute/unmute commands |
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| 20:25.46 | Lagomorph | hrm :) |
| 20:25.59 | Lagomorph | SportChick: I take it back, yes that will be in the next release :) |
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| 20:26.38 | SportChick | bryjen: ty |
| 20:26.53 | Lagomorph | ~bryjen++ |
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| 20:28.54 | SportChick | ~bryjen++ |
| 20:30.06 | bryjen | ah |
| 20:30.22 | bryjen | ~_Manu_++ |
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| 20:34.10 | Bagheera | thats my line |
| 20:34.12 | DTRemenak | SportChick, IMHO PMs should be...uh...private ;) |
| 20:34.43 | bryjen | it all goes to the server's output/log with enough -d 's |
| 20:34.54 | SportChick | DTRemenak: the only reason behind it is to save admins from having to go back and search the logs for things - you could handle them in game if needed. AND it would be available to full admins only, not ops. |
| 20:35.09 | SportChick | pms aren't private, anyway - not so long as they are logged |
| 20:35.16 | DTRemenak | yeah, I don't have a problem with it being logged. but I'd not want everything I say to be sent to all the admins in game. |
| 20:35.23 | cods | We've some patch here to extract every message from bzfs and store that in postgresql database |
| 20:35.47 | DTRemenak | I can think of a couple good examples. Coordinating strategy between two rogues is one. |
| 20:35.59 | Bagheera | heh, sounds like DTRemenak is trolling |
| 20:36.02 | DTRemenak | playing under an alias while talking to someone who knows who you really are |
| 20:36.13 | DTRemenak | etc |
| 20:36.46 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 20:37.10 | SportChick | DTRemenak: i understand your concerns. as an admin, we are having to deal with all kinds of things that often, by the time we look them up in the logs, the damage is done |
| 20:39.09 | DTRemenak | I wouldn't even be opposed to a command that echoes a backlog of the last n minutes of pm to an admin who requests it. I'd just much, much prefer it to be an active "let me see" not a passive "I can see it" |
| 20:39.41 | bryjen | i wonder if the chat history plugin Jeff did replays PMs... |
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| 20:40.21 | SportChick | DTRemenak: that would be fine, too - I think the idea we had would that it wouldn't be on unless you specific turned it on (sort of like turning on binoculars or whatever0 |
| 20:40.45 | DTRemenak | I think that would invite people to turn it on and just leave it on the whole time though |
| 20:40.51 | DTRemenak | which is what I'd like to avoid |
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| 20:43.46 | orange | what if it was on all the time but translated everything to swedish chef speak so you'd have to work harder to read it |
| 20:43.52 | DTRemenak | hah |
| 20:44.50 | orange | bzffleg is a greet geme-a! |
| 20:45.25 | orange | bork bork bork |
| 20:45.34 | bryjen | that wouldn't work for *.se servers ;) |
| 20:45.53 | orange | hehe |
| 20:46.12 | orange | I live in Georgia and the redneck translator doesn't offend me... I hope the chef speak doesn't offend swedes :-) |
| 20:46.34 | Aribeth_away | Georgia? |
| 20:46.47 | orange | the state |
| 20:46.55 | Aribeth_away | orange, whereabouts? |
| 20:47.02 | orange | just north of Atlanta, for now |
| 20:47.09 | orange | moving to Athens area soon |
| 20:47.17 | Aribeth_away | wow, im just north of Atlanta |
| 20:47.32 | Grumbler | well thats taken for granted.....the rest of the state is still on the telegraph system |
| 20:47.33 | orange | no kidding... I live in Cumming (please, let it lie) |
| 20:47.59 | Aribeth_away | oh no, so do i |
| 20:48.03 | orange | no way |
| 20:48.15 | Aribeth_away | big way, just moved here |
| 20:48.31 | orange | what a small world |
| 20:48.39 | Aribeth_away | for sure |
| 20:48.40 | orange | don't tell me you moved into The Gates subdivision |
| 20:48.48 | Aribeth_away | nope |
| 20:48.58 | orange | ok, because that would have just been creepy |
| 20:49.13 | Aribeth_away | im in Castleberry |
| 20:49.26 | Grumbler | look out, he is across the street.....in the van |
| 20:49.35 | Aribeth_away | eek |
| 20:49.39 | Aribeth_away | lol |
| 20:49.51 | orange | hmmm, I know castleberry road, but not the neighborhood |
| 20:49.58 | Grumbler | now you know how i feel knowing that brlcad is so close |
| 20:50.12 | orange | how threatening can an orange really be? |
| 20:50.17 | Aribeth_away | its a small sub division neat kelly mill |
| 20:50.22 | DTRemenak | always carry a straw |
| 20:50.29 | Aribeth_away | hehe |
| 20:50.41 | Grumbler | or a jackalope |
| 20:50.55 | orange | I have some property over that way, too. |
| 20:51.50 | Aribeth_away | a very small world indeed |
| 20:52.50 | SportChick | hi ari! good to see you back online |
| 20:52.52 | Grumbler | run Aribeth_away run.....he has a little field........with newly turned earth.........and orange trees............. |
| 20:53.13 | Aribeth_away | ROFLOL! |
| 20:53.21 | Aribeth_away | thanks SprotChick |
| 20:53.41 | BearPerson | There should be some way to get playing_time for players... |
| 20:54.08 | BearPerson | I'd rather use TKs/minute to sort than TKs/kills |
| 20:54.24 | Grumbler | patches are welcome |
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| 20:54.35 | BearPerson | :) |
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| 20:54.54 | BearPerson | kinda dirty though... |
| 20:55.17 | BearPerson | probably like 100 bzdb evals or more per frame with scoreboard on |
| 20:55.18 | orange | and I use it, BearPerson, thanks |
| 20:55.35 | BearPerson | my sortscore stuff? cool :) |
| 20:56.01 | orange | yep, I usually have tk ratio as my default |
| 20:56.15 | BearPerson | I use the normalized ratio a lot for playing, TK ratio for spotting TKs, and used to use slot number before slots could time out |
| 20:57.21 | Aribeth_away | Grumbler, yes, tellegraphs are still in use here. ;) |
| 20:57.45 | bunny-bird | wow the one that made the bz bowl map.. |
| 20:57.54 | bunny-bird | is like the best map i ever saw |
| 20:58.06 | Grumbler | but is it playable |
| 20:58.20 | bunny-bird | it takes looooooooong to join:) |
| 20:58.22 | Grumbler | lots of pretty maps coming out now |
| 20:58.23 | bunny-bird | but its fun to play |
| 20:58.33 | bunny-bird | certainly with those tanks in the middle |
| 20:58.45 | Grumbler | purple_panzers map on last night was interesting |
| 20:58.47 | bunny-bird | you made the flag? |
| 20:58.50 | bunny-bird | eh map? |
| 20:58.56 | Grumbler | no, louman |
| 20:59.11 | bunny-bird | well you may tell him big congrats from me, i'm impressed |
| 20:59.27 | Grumbler | get an account on bzbb and tell him yourself |
| 20:59.36 | bunny-bird | ya i have one dont worry |
| 20:59.37 | bunny-bird | :) |
| 20:59.40 | bunny-bird | (birdie) |
| 20:59.47 | Grumbler | pull! |
| 20:59.53 | bunny-bird | lol |
| 20:59.56 | bunny-bird | once a day,:) |
| 21:00.11 | Grumbler | so long as you dont start asking for personal scores in ctf again |
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| 21:00.25 | bunny-bird | lol |
| 21:00.35 | bunny-bird | quiet some people find it important |
| 21:00.43 | bunny-bird | so i would like to keep them;) |
| 21:03.48 | Grumbler | speaking of maps.....when is the next Aribeth world coming? |
| 21:04.21 | Aribeth_away | ahh, Aribeth is wondering that too |
| 21:06.18 | Grumbler | considering the advent of unlimited size worlds and meshes......i expect something that will take weeks to drive around and see everything. :) |
| 21:06.37 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:06.37 | BearPerson | ? |
| 21:06.55 | Aribeth | i take it you are refering to Lemuria? |
| 21:07.06 | BearPerson | was there an idea once that teleporters could link up to other servers? |
| 21:07.31 | Aribeth | ooooooo, i like |
| 21:07.35 | Grumbler | BearPerson< nah, Aribeth has a tendancy to make large, large, large, large, large, and well, large maps |
| 21:07.45 | BearPerson | I see |
| 21:07.48 | Aribeth | ROFLOL! |
| 21:08.12 | Aribeth | Lemuria kinda got out of hand. 1200x1200 |
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| 21:08.23 | Grumbler | i dont think i saw that one |
| 21:08.50 | Grumbler | but 1200x1200 sounds small to me... :) |
| 21:08.57 | Aribeth | its not up now. it has a lake, mountains, etc |
| 21:10.38 | Grumbler | missed it. still dont know how you find time to do the big maps.... |
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| 21:11.10 | blast007 | BearPerson: yes, there was an idea for allowing cross-server teleporters |
| 21:11.15 | Grumbler | between you and louman, you are trying to create whole enviroments........maybe the two of you should get together and do a heaven and hell map |
| 21:11.21 | Aribeth | i dont know either, i just seem to doodle tham together |
| 21:11.35 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:12.08 | Aribeth | louman does make some very good maps |
| 21:12.31 | Grumbler | the babylon 5 map took me by surprise |
| 21:12.37 | Aribeth | he is better at the 3d modelers than i am |
| 21:12.49 | Aribeth | me too |
| 21:16.10 | bunny-bird | aribeth: in what program do you make maps? |
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| 21:16.51 | Aribeth | im useing Wings3d |
| 21:17.41 | BunnyBoy | SportChick: there's a way muting players premanently |
| 21:17.48 | BunnyBoy | permanently |
| 21:17.54 | SportChick | bunnyboy - you mean using the -talk function? |
| 21:18.21 | BunnyBoy | make a group local.notalk or similar |
| 21:18.28 | BunnyBoy | like: |
| 21:18.31 | SportChick | yeah, same idea - thanks |
| 21:18.43 | BunnyBoy | LOCAL.NOTALK: !TALK |
| 21:19.17 | BunnyBoy | 1talk, not - talk |
| 21:19.23 | BunnyBoy | !talk |
| 21:19.25 | guu | BunnyBoy: Wuo de ma! |
| 21:19.33 | BunnyBoy | ... |
| 21:26.44 | bunny-bird | orchid ping:) |
| 21:27.11 | orchid | hello Birdie |
| 21:27.16 | Birdie | hey |
| 21:27.48 | Aribeth | hi orchid |
| 21:27.59 | orchid | hey Aribeth |
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| 21:34.04 | Birdie | au not more bunnys now |
| 21:35.15 | CBG | meotume... hehe |
| 21:35.27 | menotume | NP wore me out |
| 21:36.30 | CBG | NP ? |
| 21:38.01 | menotume | the team, NP |
| 21:38.51 | Grumbler | meooowwwtume |
| 21:39.05 | menotume | purrrrr |
| 21:40.08 | CBG | ooooh. ok :) |
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| 22:24.07 | JeffM2501 | any comments on the new bzbb banner? |
| 22:25.06 | purple_cow | it's terrible |
| 22:25.09 | purple_cow | where is it? |
| 22:25.31 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:25.34 | JeffM2501 | at the top |
| 22:25.37 | JeffM2501 | of the live boards |
| 22:28.33 | purple_cow | pretty crappy shadow/transparency |
| 22:29.48 | JeffM2501 | this is very very true |
| 22:31.48 | purple_cow | ouch, .gif? |
| 22:32.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's what was there before |
| 22:32.18 | JeffM2501 | gonna change it to png tonight |
| 22:32.23 | JeffM2501 | have to edit the templates |
| 22:32.36 | JeffM2501 | I should redo the tank renders |
| 22:50.42 | JeffM2501 | or maybe stamp in the tank outline isntead of the renders |
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| 23:20.30 | Harlin | what happened to the Overlord server? |
| 23:21.15 | orchid | Harlin: no idea, who owned it? |
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