| 00:01.10 | wegstar | see it? |
| 00:01.18 | Inferno | 2 seconds |
| 00:01.20 | Inferno | .... |
| 00:01.26 | wegstar | did you see it? |
| 00:01.55 | Inferno | no |
| 00:01.59 | wegstar | o |
| 00:02.12 | Inferno | grrrr |
| 00:02.26 | Inferno | it didn't give an error or anything like that either |
| 00:02.43 | wegstar | oh..err |
| 00:03.02 | wegstar | did you make it sleep after sending that packet? |
| 00:03.20 | Inferno | $request = pack("nnnna32a128a22a60", 246, 0x656e, 0, 'blue', 'Inferno1', 'Inferno1'); then print $sock $request should work ... |
| 00:03.26 | Inferno | sleep?? |
| 00:03.38 | wegstar | yeah.. so it doesn't quit immediately |
| 00:03.45 | wegstar | and close the connection.. |
| 00:03.57 | Inferno | oh, it didn't quit cause I used a while stdin |
| 00:04.07 | wegstar | ah |
| 00:04.10 | Inferno | or I mean while <$socket> |
| 00:04.25 | wegstar | eek |
| 00:04.46 | Inferno | so it didn't close, but how do I use sleep? |
| 00:05.22 | wegstar | uh.. check dtr's link |
| 00:05.35 | Inferno | k |
| 00:05.47 | wegstar | http://www.icewalkers.com/Perl/5.8.0/pod/func/sleep.html |
| 00:07.03 | Inferno | ok, so just "sleep;" after I connect |
| 00:07.16 | wegstar | well.. sure |
| 00:07.59 | Inferno | still an't workin' |
| 00:08.28 | Inferno | my $socket = new IO::Socket::INET (PeerAddr => "bzflag.secretplace.us", |
| 00:08.29 | Inferno | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.29 | Inferno | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.29 | Inferno | sleep; |
| 00:08.29 | Inferno | $socket->autoflush (1); |
| 00:08.29 | Inferno | $request = pack("nnnna32a128a22a60", 246, 0x656e, 0, 'blue', 'Inferno1', 'Inferno1'); |
| 00:08.29 | wegstar | #@$DFs |
| 00:08.29 | Inferno | print $socket "$request"; |
| 00:08.41 | Inferno | ? |
| 00:08.44 | wegstar | umm |
| 00:08.58 | Inferno | I can't help my self, sorry |
| 00:08.59 | wegstar | are you even sending the packet? |
| 00:09.21 | wegstar | uh |
| 00:09.25 | Inferno | yeah, I tested this script on google, with a get, and it sent back what I wanted |
| 00:09.32 | wegstar | hmmm |
| 00:10.02 | cosmos | ohh remote bzflag spamming tools in perl. cant wait till yugi gets ahold of it ;) |
| 00:10.09 | wegstar | hehe ;) |
| 00:10.21 | Inferno | sure .... |
| 00:10.48 | Inferno | it's called remote CHATTING not spamming |
| 00:10.54 | wegstar | I haven't given him the procedure(s) to send messages yet >:) |
| 00:10.55 | Inferno | but who cares |
| 00:11.14 | cosmos | inferno you havnt run popular servers have you |
| 00:11.19 | wegstar | well server admins do ;) |
| 00:11.32 | Inferno | I have a localhost |
| 00:11.33 | Inferno | :) |
| 00:11.47 | Inferno | and beaulieubrothers.com, which currently stnks |
| 00:12.05 | Inferno | oh, and I setup apache on about 5 computers |
| 00:12.15 | wegstar | lets see.. try changing a server.. |
| 00:12.19 | Inferno | and, perl, php, and html |
| 00:12.31 | cosmos | your a regular guru! |
| 00:12.31 | wegstar | no python? :P |
| 00:12.36 | wegstar | :( |
| 00:12.50 | Inferno | sorry, I python hasn't crossed my path |
| 00:12.58 | Inferno | tell me about it |
| 00:13.03 | wegstar | www.python.org |
| 00:13.10 | wegstar | that's all I can say ;) |
| 00:13.37 | Inferno | ok, back to my script ... |
| 00:13.46 | Inferno | why an't it workin' |
| 00:14.20 | wegstar | switch servers... |
| 00:14.46 | Inferno | oh, ok |
| 00:14.57 | wegstar | for some reason it doesn't work on some.. |
| 00:15.01 | Inferno | tell me a good one |
| 00:15.08 | Inferno | that works |
| 00:15.12 | wegstar | uh.. |
| 00:15.16 | wegstar | lets see |
| 00:15.21 | wegstar | mofo place |
| 00:15.37 | Inferno | like host:port format |
| 00:15.49 | wegstar | umm |
| 00:16.01 | wegstar | you have a bzflag client, yes? ;) |
| 00:16.10 | Inferno | to tell the truth, my bzflag an't workin', so I only know the one I'm usin' |
| 00:16.26 | wegstar | o |
| 00:16.28 | wegstar | ok |
| 00:16.48 | Inferno | so, you gotta the format? |
| 00:17.24 | Inferno | I'm also competing with my brother, who does c and c# |
| 00:17.25 | wegstar | uh.. |
| 00:17.26 | wegstar | um.. |
| 00:17.28 | wegstar | try dtr's server |
| 00:17.29 | wegstar | oh |
| 00:17.37 | wegstar | C# .. bleh |
| 00:17.44 | Inferno | you have a bz client, yes? |
| 00:18.19 | Inferno | so you can find out for me, yes? |
| 00:18.19 | wegstar | hehehe ;) |
| 00:18.19 | cosmos | in my day teens competed at baseball and basketball |
| 00:18.26 | wegstar | :) |
| 00:18.34 | Inferno | lol |
| 00:18.43 | wegstar | dtremenak.bakadigital.com:6001 |
| 00:18.45 | Inferno | I'm actually a soccer star in my state: MN |
| 00:18.49 | Inferno | thinks |
| 00:19.03 | cosmos | the land of 10,000 lakes |
| 00:19.10 | wegstar | :( |
| 00:19.17 | Inferno | they say something like 15,000 |
| 00:19.21 | wegstar | I should exercise... |
| 00:20.06 | Inferno | people say I could be a pro soccer player, but I'm too into programming |
| 00:20.18 | Inferno | even still, I'm really good |
| 00:21.44 | wegstar | work? |
| 00:22.07 | Inferno | 14 |
| 00:22.14 | wegstar | ? |
| 00:22.24 | Inferno | 14 years old |
| 00:22.29 | wegstar | you? |
| 00:22.32 | Inferno | me |
| 00:22.34 | wegstar | oh |
| 00:22.49 | wegstar | ah :) |
| 00:23.05 | Inferno | the script didn't work on that server either |
| 00:23.16 | wegstar | eek |
| 00:23.59 | Inferno | I like DTR's rules, Cursing is allowed but keep it calm on the words :) |
| 00:24.13 | wegstar | :) |
| 00:24.13 | cosmos | hrm |
| 00:24.13 | DTRemenak | BIYA's rules not mine |
| 00:24.15 | cosmos | 14 |
| 00:24.19 | cosmos | i dont remember 14 |
| 00:24.20 | wegstar | uh oh |
| 00:24.24 | Inferno | oh, I see |
| 00:24.47 | wegstar | hmm.. 14 I was wasting my life away on games... |
| 00:24.57 | DTRemenak | I'm stricter on servers that I set up :) |
| 00:24.58 | cosmos | me too |
| 00:25.02 | cosmos | baseball |
| 00:25.03 | Inferno | yeah, I'm lucky I don't play games |
| 00:25.04 | cosmos | basketball |
| 00:25.10 | wegstar | :( |
| 00:25.21 | Inferno | oh, I thought you meant video games, I play soccer |
| 00:25.24 | cosmos | only games were pong |
| 00:25.28 | wegstar | lol |
| 00:25.31 | cosmos | and other crap at the arcade |
| 00:25.43 | cosmos | thats where the dungeons and dragons freaks hung out |
| 00:25.45 | cosmos | no thanks |
| 00:25.56 | Inferno | I'm radically different than most teens |
| 00:26.14 | Inferno | at leats my dad says |
| 00:26.37 | wegstar | I was a non-conformist... |
| 00:26.43 | cosmos | to be radically different you would have to be dead |
| 00:26.52 | Inferno | I am ... |
| 00:26.53 | Inferno | lol |
| 00:26.54 | cosmos | no one knows which end is up as a teenager |
| 00:27.05 | cosmos | save this convo. open it up in 20 years |
| 00:27.11 | Inferno | well, I got older bros and stuff |
| 00:28.15 | Inferno | so what about my script, anyone know nothing |
| 00:28.18 | cosmos | im going to create an in game Hall of Shame at hepcat |
| 00:28.28 | DTRemenak | cosmos: wouldn't advise it |
| 00:28.32 | wegstar | :) |
| 00:28.33 | cosmos | list our favorite SOB's like redsoxfan90, yugi etc |
| 00:28.39 | DTRemenak | attention is exactly what those sobs want |
| 00:28.54 | Inferno | redsoxfan is weird |
| 00:28.58 | cosmos | yeah well still dont have my automatic DDOS code working yet |
| 00:29.09 | wegstar | eek! |
| 00:29.13 | cosmos | teehee |
| 00:29.24 | Inferno | you an admin there cosmos? |
| 00:29.31 | wegstar | yep |
| 00:29.31 | cosmos | i own the server |
| 00:29.36 | wegstar | err.. |
| 00:29.51 | cosmos | so you could call me the king of the admins there |
| 00:29.53 | Inferno | oh, well was one of your first clients |
| 00:30.04 | cosmos | back in pillbox days? |
| 00:30.16 | Inferno | yeah |
| 00:30.28 | wegstar | really? what year? |
| 00:30.31 | Inferno | me and my bros played, till it became a popular server |
| 00:30.42 | Inferno | about 1 year ago |
| 00:30.49 | cosmos | p[illbox isnt as popular with the 2.0 crowd |
| 00:31.02 | Inferno | ? |
| 00:31.02 | wegstar | hmm.. I enjoy it |
| 00:31.10 | cosmos | so do i |
| 00:31.10 | aaronf0 | th ebest ones are the random boxes spread around |
| 00:31.12 | Inferno | oh, I see |
| 00:31.19 | cosmos | but i get death threats when i put it up :) |
| 00:31.22 | aaronf0 | wait, would that be pillbox? |
| 00:31.48 | Inferno | but i get death threats when i put it up :) || don't put out your location :) |
| 00:31.54 | wegstar | the top of 1.10.8 server list would be: secretplace|Viper|Pillbox |
| 00:31.55 | cosmos | pillbox has a red and a green base surrounded by boxes |
| 00:32.02 | cosmos | and a cross hatch of boxes across the map |
| 00:32.03 | wegstar | or at least what it used to be |
| 00:32.06 | aaronf0 | oh |
| 00:32.10 | aaronf0 | that was fun to |
| 00:32.32 | cosmos | no jump no rico no flags |
| 00:32.38 | Inferno | I like secretplace, cause that's where the cool players play |
| 00:32.47 | Inferno | at least most of them |
| 00:33.04 | Inferno | my favorite map is tavern.ruklubi |
| 00:33.13 | aaronf0 | fast shot one? |
| 00:33.19 | Inferno | yeah |
| 00:33.29 | aaronf0 | yeah |
| 00:33.30 | aaronf0 | fun |
| 00:33.33 | wegstar | joy |
| 00:33.38 | aaronf0 | i liked blah.pl |
| 00:33.47 | cosmos | the 1.10.8 pillbox mirror still has 20 players on it right now |
| 00:33.49 | aaronf0 | but i havent seen that in a while |
| 00:33.55 | aaronf0 | heh |
| 00:34.37 | Inferno | anybody know about the tadd map (mcaffee. something or othert) |
| 00:34.48 | aaronf0 | no |
| 00:35.07 | Inferno | actually it was something . kaffe . somthing |
| 00:35.07 | wegstar | ooh dinner.. bbl |
| 00:35.19 | Inferno | ok, bye |
| 00:35.45 | Inferno | it was a very dynamic map, with tadd as admin ofcourse |
| 00:35.59 | Inferno | but with v2 it went trashy |
| 00:36.51 | aaronf0 | type /nick [new nick name] |
| 00:37.15 | Inferno | interesting |
| 00:37.35 | wegstar | lol |
| 00:38.40 | Inferno | so, can anybody here help me with a perl client, or no? |
| 00:38.50 | aaronf0 | lmao |
| 00:39.06 | Inferno | what does Imao mean? |
| 00:39.21 | aaronf0 | laughing my ass off |
| 00:39.56 | Inferno | oh, just keep on doing that, and you'll be a jerk in no time, to bad a jerk is good now days |
| 00:40.17 | aaronf0 | its like lol |
| 00:40.21 | aaronf0 | but more funny |
| 00:40.31 | Inferno | oh |
| 00:41.17 | Inferno | oh well, I guess It's time for work again |
| 00:41.22 | aaronf0 | i just see no connection between perl and 3d accelerated multiplayer games |
| 00:41.29 | aaronf0 | it would be interesting |
| 00:41.36 | Inferno | oh, what language |
| 00:41.39 | aaronf0 | like to see how it turns out |
| 00:42.02 | aaronf0 | but its like saying lets port linux to java |
| 00:42.15 | Inferno | what kinda programming experience have you got there |
| 00:42.27 | aaronf0 | not much |
| 00:42.34 | Inferno | I can see that |
| 00:43.16 | aaronf0 | lol |
| 00:43.17 | Inferno | the graphics get made by your compure by your client |
| 00:43.21 | aaronf0 | i think sun did that |
| 00:43.26 | aaronf0 | yes |
| 00:43.36 | aaronf0 | i know that |
| 00:43.41 | Inferno | the server, however, is just sending text back and forth |
| 00:43.46 | aaronf0 | yes |
| 00:44.04 | Inferno | perl, can easily act like a 3d accelerated multipalyer client |
| 00:44.16 | aaronf0 | ill trust you |
| 00:44.19 | Inferno | which is what I want to do |
| 00:44.23 | aaronf0 | its just fairly odd |
| 00:44.33 | Inferno | why? |
| 00:45.18 | Inferno | and btw I wouldn't consider bzflag accelerated 3d |
| 00:45.28 | Inferno | that was a fast dinner |
| 00:45.32 | aaronf0 | perl is not normally associated with with FPSs |
| 00:45.43 | aaronf0 | it uses opengl |
| 00:45.46 | Inferno | lol |
| 00:46.01 | aaronf0 | have you tried playing without a graphics card? |
| 00:46.13 | Inferno | imao |
| 00:46.22 | Inferno | no |
| 00:46.24 | aaronf0 | its a 'L' |
| 00:46.26 | aaronf0 | not an i |
| 00:46.37 | Inferno | oh, lmao |
| 00:46.43 | ndim | *rotfl* |
| 00:47.10 | wegstar | haha |
| 00:47.44 | Inferno | thanks to aaron, I no longer feel inferior |
| 00:47.46 | Inferno | lol |
| 00:47.47 | aaronf0 | its really hard to play bzflag without a gfx card |
| 00:47.48 | wegstar | :) |
| 00:47.59 | aaronf0 | you should try sometime |
| 00:48.08 | wegstar | hmm |
| 00:48.11 | Inferno | ok .... |
| 00:48.16 | aaronf0 | it sucks... |
| 00:48.32 | Inferno | wegstar, can you send me blast's script now? |
| 00:48.41 | Inferno | please |
| 00:48.47 | wegstar | hmmmmmmmm |
| 00:49.21 | wegstar | well.. its code pulled from bzflist.php |
| 00:49.30 | wegstar | and with "other things" |
| 00:49.34 | Inferno | wheres that? |
| 00:49.38 | wegstar | err in CVs |
| 00:49.42 | wegstar | CVS* |
| 00:49.42 | Inferno | and other things? |
| 00:49.50 | wegstar | like what I pasted here |
| 00:49.52 | Inferno | where is cvs !!! |
| 00:49.57 | wegstar | :) |
| 00:50.04 | wegstar | learning time ;) |
| 00:50.08 | wegstar | lets see |
| 00:50.16 | Inferno | I actually don't know much bout php |
| 00:50.37 | wegstar | nah.. you'll be alright.. |
| 00:50.52 | Inferno | I'd learn much faster if you'd jus' tell |
| 00:51.19 | aaronf0 | php is fun |
| 00:51.22 | wegstar | ok |
| 00:51.23 | aaronf0 | wait |
| 00:51.36 | Inferno | yeah, I looked into it before |
| 00:51.36 | aaronf0 | could you play the perl client through a webpage? |
| 00:51.44 | wegstar | a source-code control system that can manage changes in source code over time and across multiple developers. |
| 00:51.47 | Inferno | sure, why? |
| 00:52.04 | wegstar | ack...nvm |
| 00:52.09 | Inferno | and how do I get that? |
| 00:52.15 | wegstar | you'll need a client |
| 00:52.15 | aaronf0 | im thinking of all the applications of that |
| 00:52.18 | wegstar | ack...nvm |
| 00:52.35 | wegstar | i'll dcc it to you |
| 00:52.36 | aaronf0 | bzflag on a computer restricted form downloading .exes |
| 00:52.41 | Inferno | what kinda client? |
| 00:52.46 | wegstar | a CVS client |
| 00:53.00 | Inferno | ok, but dcc? |
| 00:53.07 | aaronf0 | emerge -v cvs subversion |
| 00:53.14 | aaronf0 | irc sned |
| 00:53.36 | Inferno | ok, when? |
| 00:53.48 | aaronf0 | i think he means right now |
| 00:53.49 | wegstar | wait.. let me do a clean update.. been experimenting with it.. |
| 00:54.04 | Inferno | ok |
| 00:54.38 | wegstar | wait.. where are we heading? |
| 00:54.47 | wegstar | bzflist.php or blast007's script? |
| 00:55.01 | Inferno | both actually |
| 00:55.06 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@24-196-92-143.jvl.wi.charter.com) |
| 00:55.15 | wegstar | hiya blast007 |
| 00:55.24 | blast007 | hi |
| 00:55.45 | Inferno | we where just talking about how smart and intelligent you were |
| 00:55.52 | wegstar | :) |
| 00:56.03 | Inferno | to make such a un compromisable script |
| 00:56.13 | wegstar | ... |
| 00:56.28 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:56.39 | Inferno | so uh .... |
| 00:57.29 | aaronf0 | lmao |
| 00:57.56 | Inferno | weg, are you still thanking about helping me learn this stuff? |
| 00:59.18 | Inferno | that's one minute |
| 01:00.15 | wegstar | ? |
| 01:00.19 | wegstar | srry.. was washing towels |
| 01:00.30 | wegstar | uhh yeah. |
| 01:00.47 | Inferno | so, are you sending me that, stuff |
| 01:00.58 | Inferno | or ... whatever |
| 01:02.19 | DTRemenak | Washing Towels. sounds like a band. |
| 01:02.33 | DTRemenak | or maybe I've been up for too long |
| 01:02.39 | wegstar | ;) |
| 01:02.49 | Inferno | lol |
| 01:03.01 | blast007 | :D |
| 01:03.15 | Inferno | so, what was that about sending me CVS |
| 01:03.32 | wegstar | uhh.. |
| 01:03.37 | Inferno | I'm not on a "real" irc client, just incase that matters |
| 01:03.42 | wegstar | a source-code control system that can manage changes in source code over time and across multiple developers. |
| 01:03.45 | wegstar | no.. |
| 01:03.47 | wegstar | there |
| 01:04.02 | Inferno | yeah, so now what? |
| 01:04.03 | wegstar | oh yeah |
| 01:04.11 | wegstar | so i can't dcc you thingys |
| 01:04.19 | wegstar | so... umm |
| 01:06.13 | wegstar | ok |
| 01:06.26 | wegstar | Inferno: there are severl Perl scripts you can look at.. |
| 01:10.24 | blast007 | hrm, guess I was wrong about the Perl script...they just use BZAdmin |
| 01:10.45 | wegstar | oh |
| 01:11.05 | blast007 | but there is a lot of info right in the bzflag source code |
| 01:11.33 | wegstar | yeah.. but he doesn't know exactly how to use CVS... |
| 01:12.17 | blast007 | even the source archive on sourceforge would be useful |
| 01:12.31 | wegstar | yeah.. he could try that... |
| 01:13.14 | wegstar | I'm sure he can read some C/C++... |
| 01:13.16 | wegstar | err.. |
| 01:17.32 | blast007 | here's a really useful file: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/include/Protocol.h?view=markup |
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| 01:24.58 | BIYA | :) I got it to work... |
| 01:25.33 | Inferno | blast, know anything about perl ? |
| 01:25.37 | blast007 | nope |
| 01:25.42 | *** part/#bzflag Blue_Eyes (~Blue_Eyes@host198-100.pool80116.interbusiness.it) |
| 01:26.11 | Inferno | cause I got the entering part to work (for a perl bz client) now when I send a msg does it need to be pached to? |
| 01:27.10 | Inferno | I mean packed, sry |
| 01:34.20 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:34.33 | blast007 | you need to pack messages |
| 01:34.53 | blast007 | you also need to constantly read data and pull apart the packets |
| 01:35.48 | blast007 | and send their data to functions that unpack them, and deal with the information |
| 01:37.12 | Inferno | how do I do that? |
| 01:37.50 | Inferno | first of all, when I connect I have 4000 lag |
| 01:38.00 | Inferno | is there a way to fix that? |
| 01:40.36 | blast007 | you need to read the MsgPing, and respond to it |
| 01:41.04 | blast007 | writing a script that talks to bzfs isn't an easy task ;) |
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| 01:41.14 | Inferno | how do I read it? |
| 01:41.20 | Inferno | do you know? |
| 01:41.31 | blast007 | don't know how in perl |
| 01:41.49 | Inferno | can you tell me how in english, I might know enough perl? |
| 01:42.12 | blast007 | don't really have the time to explain it right now |
| 01:42.40 | Inferno | just reall quick, just give me some basics? |
| 01:42.56 | wegstar | ah.. |
| 01:43.03 | Inferno | or maybe weg can help |
| 01:43.05 | blast007 | the 'basics' are quite advanced ;) |
| 01:43.09 | wegstar | Inferno: look around for tutorials :) |
| 01:43.16 | Inferno | on? |
| 01:43.33 | wegstar | pack(), |
| 01:43.39 | Inferno | you would be shocked to see how often I do that now a days anyway |
| 01:43.50 | wegstar | O_o |
| 01:43.52 | Inferno | I know pack. |
| 01:43.53 | wegstar | there ... |
| 01:43.55 | wegstar | ok |
| 01:44.12 | wegstar | then grab source code of bzflag |
| 01:44.27 | Inferno | is the data the server sends packed? |
| 01:44.33 | wegstar | yes |
| 01:44.37 | blast007 | you need to open a socket to the server, then read data, determine what a full packet is.. |
| 01:44.48 | blast007 | then send it to a function that unpacks it, and responds to it or updates the local game state |
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| 01:45.17 | Inferno | how about observer mode, is that different? |
| 01:45.28 | wegstar | uhh.. yes |
| 01:45.29 | blast007 | not really |
| 01:45.40 | blast007 | you still need to do all the reading of data |
| 01:45.44 | blast007 | just not as much sending |
| 01:45.49 | Inferno | and weg, I tried 5 for type and it didn't work? |
| 01:45.52 | blast007 | and packets won't come in a specific order, so you have to determine what each packet is |
| 01:45.58 | wegstar | hmm |
| 01:46.13 | Inferno | how do I do that? |
| 01:46.32 | blast007 | with magic |
| 01:46.46 | Inferno | back to earth here |
| 01:47.02 | wegstar | "magic" |
| 01:47.45 | blast007 | if you aren't comfortable enough with the bzflag source, you don't have much of a change of doing it in perl |
| 01:47.52 | blast007 | chance* |
| 01:48.13 | Inferno | um, you can help me |
| 01:48.35 | Inferno | I'll give you full credit |
| 01:48.51 | blast007 | I'm sure I could help, but I'm not going to...I have other things to do |
| 01:49.26 | Inferno | alright, but can I only decide to unpack the stuff I want, like messages |
| 01:49.49 | wegstar | uh sure.. with "magic" |
| 01:49.50 | blast007 | anything is possible |
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| 01:50.14 | Inferno | can you give me a quick message format? |
| 01:50.37 | blast007 | the packing is language specific, so no, I can't |
| 01:51.12 | Inferno | I mean what the message from the server looks like, I already realize you can't help me with perl |
| 01:51.56 | wegstar | ok.. wait.. |
| 01:53.01 | Inferno | <== MsgMessage |
| 01:53.36 | Inferno | ? |
| 01:53.39 | wegstar | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/bzflag/bzflag/doc/guide/NetworkProtocol.xml\ |
| 01:53.41 | wegstar | err |
| 01:53.43 | wegstar | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/bzflag/bzflag/doc/guide/NetworkProtocol.xml |
| 01:53.44 | wegstar | try that |
| 01:54.23 | Inferno | The XML page cannot be displayed |
| 01:54.33 | wegstar | O_o |
| 01:54.43 | Inferno | Whitespace is not allowed at this location. Error processing resource 'http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/ent/iso-am... |
| 01:54.58 | wegstar | ... |
| 01:56.17 | wegstar | view it as text then: |
| 01:56.19 | wegstar | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/bzflag/bzflag/doc/guide/NetworkProtocol.xml?content-type=text%2Fplain |
| 01:56.40 | Inferno | still didn't work. |
| 01:56.42 | wegstar | ? |
| 01:56.51 | Inferno | same error |
| 01:56.55 | wegstar | ... |
| 01:57.06 | Inferno | <! Y lthree "⋋"> <!-- LEFT SEMIDIRECT PRODUCT --> |
| 01:57.07 | Inferno | --^ |
| 01:57.07 | Inferno | <! Y lthree "⋋"> <!-- LEFT SEMIDIRECT PRODUCT --> |
| 01:57.07 | Inferno | --^ |
| 01:57.22 | Inferno | oops again |
| 01:58.06 | Inferno | btw, where can I get the bzflag source? |
| 01:58.19 | wegstar | www.sf.net |
| 01:58.22 | wegstar | look up bzflag |
| 01:58.40 | wegstar | good luck.. gotta go |
| 01:58.49 | Inferno | ok, later |
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| 03:08.25 | menotume | Can any1 help with a failed cvs build? ... |
| 03:08.27 | menotume | ../../include/Singleton.h:102: error: `atexit' is not a member of `std' |
| 03:08.45 | menotume | I just upgraded my stytem, and cannot build anymore |
| 03:10.47 | trepan | menotume: OS? compiler version? |
| 03:11.09 | menotume | FC3 |
| 03:11.21 | menotume | compiler version - good question :) |
| 03:11.27 | menotume | everything is new |
| 03:11.31 | trepan | gcc -v |
| 03:11.47 | menotume | gcc version 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22.fc3) |
| 03:15.04 | menotume | I;m getting a fresh CO from cvs now, maybe something was left over from old system |
| 03:16.09 | menotume | and, a new problem ... |
| 03:16.11 | menotume | configure.in:735: required file `src/c-ares/Makefile.in' not found |
| 03:16.22 | menotume | I think I'll wait til tomorrow on this :) |
| 03:16.22 | trepan | ./autogen.sh |
| 03:16.31 | menotume | yes, i did that |
| 03:16.35 | menotume | got errors in that |
| 03:16.49 | trepan | ah, i believe Tup did some changes there recently |
| 03:16.50 | menotume | /usr/share/aclocal/openhbci.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_OPENHBCI |
| 03:16.50 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.50 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.54 | menotume | and more .. |
| 03:17.22 | menotume | ya, i'll wait - got plenty more to do here |
| 03:17.42 | menotume | thx trepan |
| 03:18.53 | menotume | I get the same autogen errors on 2.0.0 - i'll look an an automake update |
| 03:20.13 | trepan | good plan, i'm not overly familiar with that stuff, learner might be of more assistance there |
| 03:20.45 | menotume | okies, looks like i have the most current (which most likely is the problem:) |
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| 04:47.07 | learner | hmm, who what? |
| 04:47.27 | Tupone | hey, learner |
| 04:47.39 | learner | howdy tuponester |
| 04:48.49 | DTRemenak | hiya learner, Tupone |
| 04:49.02 | learner | evenin' |
| 04:49.08 | Tupone | morning |
| 04:49.09 | learner | how's tricks? |
| 04:49.34 | Pimpinella | general wakeup? |
| 04:50.37 | DTRemenak | he's a good general, he is. |
| 04:51.54 | Pimpinella | sarge sleep is my friend |
| 04:52.08 | DTRemenak | sarge sleep, hm. |
| 04:54.14 | Pimpinella | wakeup is a cruel guy and always too early |
| 04:54.48 | DTRemenak | ah, I thought you were talking about debian sarge :S |
| 04:55.21 | Pimpinella | yep, that sarge is sleepimg too... |
| 04:55.54 | DTRemenak | besides, sleep is the one that's always too early. I'd just as soon he never came around at all |
| 04:57.17 | learner | that sarge is rather the opposite.. instead of cruel, it's so utterly uncruel almost to the point of boredom and always too late |
| 04:57.52 | learner | DTRemenak, unless if I could code while I slept.. then sleep would be quite welcome |
| 04:58.10 | DTRemenak | true enough :) |
| 04:58.29 | DTRemenak | although sometimes I wonder if I do code in my sleep |
| 04:58.41 | DTRemenak | I wake up and something is written that wasn't before |
| 04:59.09 | Pimpinella | too much philosophy at this early time of day |
| 05:01.24 | learner | DTRemenak, touché .. I've coded asleep too.. but that code compiles even less that when I'm awake |
| 05:01.45 | learner | usually do to something like jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj....[snip]....jjjjjjjjj |
| 05:02.53 | learner | bleh, s/do/due/ |
| 05:08.16 | Tupone | nite all, and mornig all the others |
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| 06:06.00 | wegstar | rn |
| 06:06.03 | uso | bzflag 2 servers are a pain, such a lot of servers but none useable |
| 06:06.31 | uso | either they are laggy from europe or they have improved wings or they are dead :( |
| 06:06.52 | uso | no wonder a lot of people stay on knjiga and bzflag 1 |
| 06:07.54 | uso | wegstar: looks somewhat cryptic for me :) |
| 06:08.04 | wegstar | ? |
| 06:08.08 | wegstar | grr.. |
| 06:08.18 | uso | your last statement |
| 06:08.22 | wegstar | ah |
| 06:08.49 | uso | maybe xchat lacks unicode support |
| 06:08.55 | wegstar | ;) |
| 06:08.56 | uso | or my settings ;) |
| 06:09.24 | TimRiker | nope, that was control characters, not unicode. |
| 06:09.43 | TimRiker | ~x en jp hello japanese world |
| 06:09.52 | wegstar | eek |
| 06:09.53 | TimRiker | that looks fine. |
| 06:10.03 | uso | hehe, but this doesn't look better :) |
| 06:10.07 | wegstar | so this is when people in #bzflag gets active.. ;) |
| 06:10.12 | TimRiker | =) |
| 06:10.22 | TimRiker | just checking in before heading to bed. |
| 06:10.28 | wegstar | ah :) |
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| 06:12.43 | wegstar | hmm.. I should be sleeping too |
| 06:12.46 | wegstar | nite all |
| 06:13.46 | wegstar | how'd you close this thing.. |
| 06:14.17 | uso | kill -9 ;) |
| 06:14.42 | wegstar | hmm |
| 06:14.53 | wegstar | oh well |
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| 06:21.03 | wegstar | what the... |
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| 07:08.15 | ruskie | good morrow all |
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| 08:34.25 | ToughShooter | ~weather EDDF |
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| 10:46.13 | BearPerson | Hmm. what is the difference between -reportfile and -reportpipe? |
| 10:57.10 | _Manu_ | do you know what's a pipe? |
| 10:59.34 | BearPerson | yeah |
| 10:59.34 | _Manu_ | -reportfile filename stores the reports in file filename |
| 10:59.51 | BearPerson | but from unix level they should work the same, not? |
| 11:00.10 | _Manu_ | and -reportpipe execute the command you write with the report info.. |
| 11:00.34 | _Manu_ | we use it in viper for sending reports to email |
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| 11:55.55 | Pimpinella | BearPerson: yes and no |
| 11:56.08 | BearPerson | thanks |
| 11:56.13 | BearPerson | manu explained it already :) |
| 11:56.25 | Pimpinella | a pipe is internally a virtual file in /proc |
| 11:56.34 | Pimpinella | no, he didn't... |
| 11:57.15 | Pimpinella | at least not the unix view of it |
| 12:03.00 | menotume | a pipe is a conduit to move water from one place to another |
| 12:03.03 | menotume | ~dict pipe |
| 12:03.15 | menotume | if you have a broken pipe, call a plumber |
| 12:03.32 | menotume | geek dictionary ! |
| 12:03.41 | Pimpinella | lol |
| 12:12.00 | Pimpinella | hey, my operating system is quite careful. just tried to use use a pipe with no process waiting on the right side, and the os refuses to execute the command |
| 12:12.10 | Pimpinella | so no water cann spill into my computer |
| 12:13.27 | Pimpinella | do you think i could use unix pipes for water cooling issues? |
| 12:14.46 | menotume | hmmmm |
| 12:15.27 | menotume | I think unix pipe are quite small (not enough water flow) |
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| 12:27.51 | ToughShooter | tupone: Is it intentional that in "c-ares" is no makefile? |
| 12:33.09 | tupone | is there a Makefile.am ? |
| 12:33.22 | tupone | or I forgot to put in yesterday? |
| 12:33.41 | tupone | prolly I forgot |
| 12:33.44 | ToughShooter | there's no "Makefile.am" |
| 12:34.11 | tupone | sorry, you should wait till late evening when I'm back home |
| 12:34.31 | ToughShooter | Just wanted to ask you. |
| 12:34.46 | tupone | however, I suggest to install c-ares in the system, with a new version |
| 12:34.58 | tupone | and build libcurl c-ares enabled |
| 12:35.45 | ToughShooter | Hmm, I first have to do a major upgrade of my OS |
| 12:35.54 | tupone | I'm going to put some check on it, so to give user warning about unsafe feature .. like bzflag blocking awaiting for dns resolving |
| 12:36.15 | tupone | in case I don't see libcurl c-ares enabled |
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| 12:40.44 | ruskie | hmmm ok both pipe and file and be used for reports... |
| 12:40.53 | ruskie | at the same time |
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| 13:06.17 | jpa- | hmm.. saw a strange dream :) |
| 13:06.25 | ruskie | ? |
| 13:07.20 | jpa- | i found out that timriker was really the one who invented www, people had just mistaken his name as berners-lee |
| 13:07.31 | ruskie | :) |
| 13:07.35 | jpa- | and he had never corrected it :P |
| 13:08.52 | ToughShooter | Luckily web-browser are multithreaded in contrast to bzflag :) |
| 13:09.02 | ruskie | who says so |
| 13:10.17 | Chestal | most web browsers I know are not really making use of multi-threading |
| 13:10.35 | jpa- | they don't halt while downloading.. :) |
| 13:11.25 | Chestal | the GUI is very often blocked though |
| 13:18.27 | ToughShooter | Safari doesn't seem to block anything |
| 13:22.03 | BearPerson | Hmm. where in the server can you get the IP of a player? |
| 13:24.07 | tupone | PlayerInfo? |
| 13:25.30 | tupone | surely is something inside (dunno how deep) GameKeeper |
| 13:26.32 | BearPerson | yeah |
| 13:26.58 | BearPerson | GameKeeper::Player->NetHandler.getTargetIp |
| 13:31.23 | BearPerson | why is sometimes sendMessage(ServerPlayer, t, "foo bar"); and sometimes sendMessage(ServerPlayer, t, TextUtils::format("foo bar").c_str()); used? |
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| 13:34.14 | Chestal | the format thing makes no sense, unless it's actually doing any formatting |
| 13:36.05 | Chestal | hi RB2 |
| 13:36.17 | RedBaron2 | hey ches :) |
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| 13:44.34 | BearPerson | Hmmm... I just remember Manu telling me TimRiker wasn't too keen on more server commands getting added... |
| 13:44.54 | BearPerson | well, I suppose if I just add /votemap for one patched server... ;-) |
| 13:52.30 | Chestal | tupone: no src/c-ares/Makefile*? |
| 13:53.36 | Chestal | aber 10 ist doch gar nicht perfekt |
| 13:53.37 | Chestal | oopsa |
| 13:53.53 | ToughShooter | Chestal: I already told tupone |
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| 13:56.20 | tupone | Chestal: I forgot to add. It is easy to forgot new file in cvs :( |
| 14:06.30 | TimRiker | BearPerson: I'm fine with new server commands as long as they are cleanly implemented. |
| 14:06.58 | BearPerson | heh :) |
| 14:07.14 | jpa- | my /gamestats wasn't? :( |
| 14:07.41 | ruskie | :) |
| 14:10.33 | BearPerson | error: invalid use of member (did you forget the `&' ?) |
| 14:10.42 | BearPerson | what is gcc trying to tell me? |
| 14:11.01 | ruskie | hmm macgyver time... bbl |
| 14:11.08 | jpa- | that you forgot a '&' ?:) |
| 14:11.23 | Chestal | BearPerson: my guess is that you forgot () when calling a member function |
| 14:11.33 | BearPerson | indeed :) |
| 14:11.58 | BearPerson | thanks, the exact same split second I saw the missing () my computer beeped for that highlight... lol |
| 14:12.32 | TimRiker | jpa-: did I reject your gamestats? I don't recall doing so. |
| 14:13.43 | jpa- | nope.. but it didn't get accepted.. |
| 14:14.03 | jpa- | atleast i don't see it in the server (or is my cvs too old?) |
| 14:14.22 | TimRiker | ah. it sounds good in pricinple, I'll look into it sometime soon. |
| 14:14.55 | BearPerson | rofl.... mooooo |
| 14:15.06 | BearPerson | I shouldn't be using /votemap as a new command |
| 14:16.17 | jpa- | while i probably should improve it.. i noticed that the client divides screen _always_ to three tabs.. i thought it was because of my 800x600 but no |
| 14:19.34 | trepan | lights can now be grouped (much easier to work with): http://trepan.bzflag.bz/lights.jpg |
| 14:20.26 | BearPerson | okay... most of the questions I have can simply be answered by reading another part of the source that does a similar thing :) |
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| 15:01.24 | Noodlema1 | does anybody know who "Da Daragon" is? |
| 15:02.52 | trepan | a bad speller? |
| 15:03.21 | Noodlema1 | besides that :-P |
| 15:15.09 | menotume | any automake gurus out there who can help with a cvs build problem? |
| 15:15.38 | tupone | I broke cvs |
| 15:15.54 | menotume | missing Makfile, yes I saw that |
| 15:16.00 | menotume | I have other probs |
| 15:16.37 | menotume | /usr/share/aclocal/openhbci.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_OPENHBCI |
| 15:16.37 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.37 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.04 | menotume | and a few other 'underquoted definitions after that" - i have no idea what that means |
| 15:17.09 | ruskie | menotume, I get tons of those all the time... |
| 15:17.16 | ruskie | but it compiles wihout the probs |
| 15:17.19 | menotume | ahh, ok |
| 15:18.08 | ruskie | if it's a "warning" I ussualy ignore it if it's an "error" I start hitting ppl... |
| 15:18.30 | TheRedBaron | ruskie: thats a great policy to have. :) |
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| 15:19.09 | menotume | lol, well i get an error too ... but i can't reproduce it right now till the missing makefile un-missings |
| 15:19.22 | tupone | ruskie: we cannot fix with broken finger |
| 15:19.45 | menotume | rofl |
| 15:24.13 | ruskie | tupone, you can't break more with broken fingers as well |
| 15:24.24 | ruskie | but only had massive breakages with the dri ppl |
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| 15:32.55 | CBG | hi all |
| 15:43.26 | Pimpinella | menotume: what are you doing with openhbci? i thought HBCI used only in germany |
| 15:43.38 | Pimpinella | and btw. openhbci is depreciated |
| 15:43.45 | menotume | huh ? |
| 15:43.59 | Pimpinella | <menotume> /usr/share/aclocal/openhbci.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_OPENHBCI |
| 15:44.22 | menotume | I dunno what it is even - I just did a fresh install of FC3 |
| 15:45.33 | Pimpinella | Home Banking Computer Interface |
| 15:46.03 | Pimpinella | you don't need that |
| 15:46.11 | Pimpinella | i wrote some patches for it once |
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| 15:57.53 | menotume | Home Banking ? geez |
| 15:58.47 | menotume | ahhh, autogen looks at all in aclocal ? |
| 15:58.58 | ruskie | yeah |
| 15:59.04 | ruskie | all of them do |
| 15:59.10 | menotume | ahhh, thx |
| 16:00.06 | menotume | fixed :) |
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| 16:01.28 | Inferno | hello |
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| 16:02.34 | Inferno | hi gennose\ |
| 16:03.46 | Inferno | anyobdy home? |
| 16:05.55 | menotume | I am at home |
| 16:06.01 | Inferno | cool |
| 16:06.08 | menotume | hello :) |
| 16:06.31 | Inferno | --> /id,/ target-id/team-id, message string |
| 16:06.41 | Inferno | do you knoe the id stuff? |
| 16:08.53 | Inferno | that is what the client sends to the server, in MsgMessage, do you know anything about it? |
| 16:09.03 | menotume | nope |
| 16:09.09 | Inferno | oh |
| 16:09.21 | menotume | i can guess :) |
| 16:09.21 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, no they can't read, I learned that long long ago |
| 16:09.37 | Inferno | ok |
| 16:09.58 | menotume | id is either the player slot id, or team id (which is predefined at 250-255 or something like that) |
| 16:10.44 | Inferno | so, what would I put if I wanted to send to everyone? |
| 16:11.17 | JeffM2501 | cosmos, ping |
| 16:13.00 | menotume | Inferno: probably 255, but i'm not sure .... i 'll look |
| 16:15.35 | menotume | no - not 255 |
| 16:15.35 | menotume | but, i can't find it |
| 16:15.35 | Inferno | ok ... |
| 16:15.48 | Inferno | where would you look |
| 16:16.43 | menotume | in the source code ... somewhere |
| 16:17.35 | Inferno | oh, do you know where I can download a text version of the source? |
| 16:17.46 | Inferno | that would help alot I think |
| 16:18.40 | Inferno | I've already got my perl script to connect |
| 16:18.53 | Inferno | only under ROGUE that is |
| 16:20.58 | menotume | Inferno: all players is 254 |
| 16:21.50 | Inferno | so I use --> /0x656e/ 254/??, "my message" |
| 16:21.50 | menotume | you can browse the source at: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/ |
| 16:22.25 | menotume | i dunno |
| 16:22.36 | menotume | if you are able to connect, can you see messages ? |
| 16:22.48 | menotume | try dumping MsgMessages |
| 16:22.53 | Inferno | ummm, not erally |
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| 16:23.18 | Inferno | cause the perl code seems to stop once I connect |
| 16:23.41 | Inferno | so I can't exactly read twhat the server sends back |
| 16:23.46 | menotume | well, i dunno about the perl syntax .... the '254' is decimal |
| 16:24.08 | Inferno | ok |
| 16:24.10 | menotume | you may have problems with proper binary formatting |
| 16:24.25 | Inferno | no, cause it worked for loging in :) |
| 16:24.34 | menotume | k |
| 16:24.53 | Inferno | all I need is the: --> /0x656e/ 254/??, "my message" part |
| 16:25.25 | menotume | look at src/bzadmin/BzadminClient.cxx |
| 16:25.29 | Inferno | what is the difference between target-id and team-id? |
| 16:25.51 | menotume | i would think it would be one or the other |
| 16:26.03 | Inferno | oh |
| 16:26.03 | menotume | team ids are 244 thru 250 |
| 16:26.13 | menotume | player ids are 0-240 or so |
| 16:26.30 | Inferno | oh |
| 16:26.50 | Inferno | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/src/bzadmin/BzadminClient.cxx ??? |
| 16:26.54 | menotume | look at src/bzadmin/BzadminClient.cxx - it has a handler for MsgMessage |
| 16:27.40 | Inferno | op4, found it thanks |
| 16:27.45 | menotume | k |
| 16:34.13 | Inferno | bzadmin.cxx deson't seem to have that part in it? |
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| 16:38.12 | menotume | JeffM2501: I could use a new vid card |
| 16:38.27 | CBG | ~x de en inchen |
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| 16:38.44 | JeffM2501 | so could I |
| 16:38.55 | CBG | ~x en de inchen |
| 16:39.02 | JeffM2501 | FX750 isn't cuting it so much anymore |
| 16:39.07 | menotume | tis much better to give than to receive |
| 16:39.24 | menotume | mine is just plain going south ( i think) |
| 16:39.25 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure I have a voodoo 5 I can send you |
| 16:39.42 | Inferno | HEY, what about me! |
| 16:39.54 | CBG | ~x ge en inchen |
| 16:40.10 | JeffM2501 | for you I have a S3 Verge |
| 16:40.55 | menotume | mine is FX-5700 |
| 16:41.10 | JeffM2501 | shouldn't be that old then |
| 16:41.21 | menotume | but, last friday something went wrong - my systems 'hangs' for a few seconds every once in a hilwe |
| 16:41.29 | Inferno | I only have a 8mb |
| 16:41.30 | menotume | nope, it isn't |
| 16:41.31 | JeffM2501 | checkt he fan |
| 16:41.35 | menotume | i have |
| 16:41.40 | JeffM2501 | and it may be under waranty still |
| 16:41.53 | menotume | i have to check that - i don't think it is |
| 16:42.01 | Inferno | my laptop had a hanging pronlem too |
| 16:42.03 | JeffM2501 | who made it? |
| 16:42.06 | menotume | not even sure if it's the vid card yet |
| 16:42.30 | Inferno | everytime it hung it hung sooner, until it wouldn't turn on |
| 16:42.53 | Inferno | you "could" have the same prob |
| 16:42.59 | menotume | not sure who the mfg is |
| 16:43.30 | menotume | i thought someone had hacked my system, so I upgraded to FC3 :P |
| 16:43.50 | menotume | It was randomly trying to acess the floppy :) |
| 16:44.03 | Inferno | weird, what brand is it? |
| 16:44.10 | Inferno | dell, gateway, .... |
| 16:44.15 | menotume | so, could be mobo, processor, main power supply |
| 16:44.20 | menotume | homebrew |
| 16:44.28 | JeffM2501 | floppy? |
| 16:44.30 | JeffM2501 | what is that? |
| 16:44.33 | menotume | lol |
| 16:45.28 | menotume | but, it gets worse if I play bz for a while, so i was thinking vid card |
| 16:45.39 | menotume | time to pull it out and have a look-see |
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| 17:06.57 | menotume | JeffM2501: The card was made by 'eVGA.com', and I bought it on April last year :( |
| 17:07.16 | JeffM2501 | probably just went outa waranty then :( |
| 17:07.21 | menotume | ya |
| 17:07.34 | menotume | i still don't even know if it's the problem |
| 17:07.56 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 17:09.11 | menotume | got an ATI somehwere |
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| 17:15.53 | ruskie | http://www.pastebin.com/280053 <-- I think there's something wrong with this on HouseWarfare map it allows for a flag to land there thus making it impossible to pickup |
| 17:16.52 | tupone | menotume: have you tried using the vsync option? should make the card cooler (opposite of hotter) |
| 17:18.16 | menotume | tupone: thx, i already use that |
| 17:18.42 | tupone | do you have a separate power for the board too? |
| 17:18.55 | tupone | I dunno if apply |
| 17:19.18 | menotume | yes, it has power supplement |
| 17:19.30 | menotume | i just found an older ATI card |
| 17:19.33 | ruskie | can anyone help with that paste? |
| 17:19.41 | menotume | gonna try to see if the problem goes away |
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| 17:37.21 | menotume | and now I remember why I got rid of the ATI in the first place :) |
| 17:37.50 | ruskie | why? |
| 17:38.05 | menotume | drivers for linux - nvidia was much easier |
| 17:39.42 | ruskie | <-- uses ati and dri.sf.net |
| 17:40.01 | ruskie | no big probs whatsoever |
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| 17:44.35 | menotume | ahhh. well ati driver rpm says conflict with my mesa-gl |
| 17:44.58 | menotume | I think i'll just let it run this way, and see if the probb goes away - i don't NEED to run bzflag :) |
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| 17:54.24 | JeffM2501 | CBG, connection problems? |
| 17:54.41 | CBG | JeffM:No... Updating irc client... |
| 17:54.48 | CBG | Sorry for all the loggin on and off. |
| 17:55.08 | CBG | Iv'e got it set to automatically join when I run the client.. |
| 17:55.15 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 17:55.18 | CBG | I'm done now. :D lol |
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| 17:57.11 | CBG | hi brad |
| 17:57.15 | CBG | :P |
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| 18:00.31 | CBG | Hi meno |
| 18:01.05 | menotume | hellos |
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| 18:12.08 | Mayhem | Hey folks |
| 18:12.50 | Mayhem | Are you guys aware of this fake-players exploit/bug? http://aluigi.altervista.org/fakep.htm |
| 18:17.02 | jpa- | Mayhem: i don't think that will be much of a problem for bzflag.. |
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| 18:17.26 | jpa- | a) there is automatic idle-kick |
| 18:17.47 | jpa- | b) if bots haven't been disabled on the server, one could do that just with bzflag -solo 20 |
| 18:18.29 | Mayhem | oh goody :) |
| 18:19.22 | Mayhem | what is the default idle-kick time? |
| 18:19.37 | jpa- | no default i think |
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| 18:19.45 | jpa- | most servers have it set too 300 seconds |
| 18:20.06 | CBG | I set my lagwarn to 450... |
| 18:20.09 | Mayhem | this isn't filling me with joy... |
| 18:20.13 | jpa- | and i would care much less if someone fills my server with fake players than if someone comes and teamkills on my server |
| 18:20.17 | CBG | but even that will prob kick everone on my server off. lol |
| 18:20.34 | jpa- | CBG: we were talking about idlekick :) |
| 18:20.42 | CBG | Oh right. Lol. :D |
| 18:21.07 | CBG | DUH!. Thought you said 300 ms... = lag... nvm. lol |
| 18:22.35 | Mayhem | This could definitely be a problem, if someone wanted to be a pest, they could fill all the popular servers with fakes |
| 18:23.41 | trepan | Mayhem: that's what bans are for |
| 18:23.43 | jpa- | so? he would end up on the global ban list quite soon |
| 18:24.07 | jpa- | and then, people would pay more attention to new maps that are down the list - would be a good thing IMHO |
| 18:29.03 | Mayhem | nice to see exploit code is taken so seriously :P |
| 18:29.22 | Chestal | it's a simple DOS |
| 18:29.30 | Mayhem | yup |
| 18:29.47 | Chestal | bzfs is not really shielded against any kind of DOS attacks |
| 18:29.58 | Chestal | and there has been no need for it yet |
| 18:30.03 | jpa- | it is a bit comical.. he has actually reverse-engineered the protocol.. instead of just using bzadmin |
| 18:30.23 | jpa- | (not complete protocol, just the join part though) |
| 18:31.49 | _Manu_ | jpa-, reverse engineered? he can read the source code.. heh |
| 18:34.35 | jpa- | yup.. but doesn't seem so |
| 18:34.47 | jpa- | it looks like he has captured what bzflag sends :) |
| 18:35.36 | jpa- | we could implement a few server options.. _maximumFromSameHost and --keep-observer-slots-for-admins 2 |
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| 18:39.15 | Mayhem | on thing suggested by the guy who wrote it is "using challenge keys based on the source IP and port" |
| 18:39.34 | Mayhem | but thats more an anti-spoofing idea |
| 18:48.38 | jpa- | well |
| 18:48.46 | jpa- | it would work for closed-source apps |
| 18:48.52 | jpa- | but not for bzflag |
| 18:51.07 | _Manu_ | he.. it's a very simply and bad DoS attack.. he can omit the msgenter.. then server full and no players names |
| 18:51.20 | _Manu_ | :/ |
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| 18:56.24 | jpa- | hi menotume <3 |
| 18:57.50 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/c-ares/Makefile.am: This does not install c-ares |
| 18:57.50 | menotume | hey jpa <3 |
| 18:59.40 | menotume | yay tupy |
| 18:59.42 | menotume | building |
| 19:00.12 | Tupone | hehe |
| 19:00.33 | Tupone | I'm sorry, but I couldn't help before :) |
| 19:01.21 | menotume | np, i can't run it right now anyway |
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| 19:05.57 | menotume | it built just fine :) |
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| 19:44.42 | aaronf0 | in the join game screen it should say the current server stats |
| 19:45.01 | aaronf0 | like a condensed version of whats in the pick server list |
| 19:45.42 | JeffM2501 | patches welcome |
| 19:46.02 | aaronf0 | dont know C yet |
| 19:46.08 | aaronf0 | just thought of it |
| 19:46.22 | aaronf0 | and waiting for my system to get some cpu back so i can play |
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| 19:55.03 | trepan | LouMan strikes again, his new "Babylon IV" map is prolly the best lookin' bz map, ever |
| 19:58.02 | _Manu_ | yes, he really writes nice bzflag worlds |
| 20:01.13 | JeffM2501 | the power of lightwave :) |
| 20:01.59 | trepan | indeed, i wonder if he got the normals exporting from LW, or is still using wings |
| 20:02.23 | trepan | his LW's obj files had 'l' lines objects... possibly for normals ? |
| 20:02.40 | JeffM2501 | he has his own tool |
| 20:02.56 | JeffM2501 | and yeah the OBJ files were wierd |
| 20:03.07 | JeffM2501 | I know he made one that did lightwave itself to bzw |
| 20:03.08 | trepan | his tool is also obj->bzw, iirc |
| 20:03.38 | JeffM2501 | I menttioned that he should merge the code in |
| 20:03.46 | JeffM2501 | dono how he felt about it |
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| 20:16.20 | menotume | JeffM2501: Your voodoo is safe :) |
| 20:16.40 | menotume | now to find a power supply |
| 20:16.52 | JeffM2501 | PSs are cheap |
| 20:16.55 | menotume | ya |
| 20:17.05 | menotume | i'd just like to know if that's it or not |
| 20:17.21 | JeffM2501 | when a PS of mine dies, I feel it's then time for a new cool case :) |
| 20:17.28 | menotume | hehe |
| 20:17.35 | menotume | ahhh, maybe i should turn my clock down |
| 20:17.45 | JeffM2501 | how big is the PS? |
| 20:17.52 | menotume | watts ? |
| 20:17.56 | JeffM2501 | ya |
| 20:18.04 | menotume | 380 |
| 20:18.14 | JeffM2501 | that' not bad |
| 20:18.37 | menotume | time to fool with some BIOS settings, and put the nvidia back in |
| 20:19.26 | JeffM2501 | http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1336698 |
| 20:19.26 | JeffM2501 | thats the last case I got |
| 20:19.26 | JeffM2501 | many fans |
| 20:19.27 | menotume | i like my case |
| 20:19.40 | menotume | ahhh, nice one |
| 20:20.26 | menotume | mine's got a nice big 5" main fan |
| 20:20.35 | JeffM2501 | that's big |
| 20:20.43 | Chestal | mine, too |
| 20:20.46 | menotume | and quiet |
| 20:20.59 | JeffM2501 | I got that one because it keeps it off the ground ( has 4 handles like a G5 case ), and has filters on the intakes |
| 20:21.10 | menotume | ahhh, filters, nice |
| 20:21.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:21.17 | menotume | mine got soo dusty |
| 20:21.39 | JeffM2501 | the entire side pannel has holes in it, but a fine nylon mesh that gets the dust and unscrews for cleaning |
| 20:21.45 | menotume | hi Chestal, the lurker :) |
| 20:22.06 | menotume | I suppose I could add a filter (holes in the side also |
| 20:22.45 | Chestal | I just widh my harddisks would be more quiet |
| 20:23.07 | Chestal | guess the only way to achieve this is to use damming |
| 20:23.34 | menotume | dam those drives ! |
| 20:23.56 | menotume | what kind of drives ? |
| 20:24.05 | menotume | regular ole IDE ? |
| 20:24.18 | Chestal | an older 5400 PATA and a new 7200 SATA (80+160) |
| 20:24.29 | menotume | ahhh |
| 20:24.41 | menotume | yes, i just got my SATA working |
| 20:24.48 | Chestal | the drives are by far the noisiest thing in my desktop |
| 20:25.01 | menotume | ya, i guess i just got used to mine |
| 20:25.04 | Chestal | maybe the Fans will get noisier with time, though |
| 20:25.19 | menotume | the DVD drive, however, sound like a jet plane taking off |
| 20:25.43 | Chestal | ah, yes, forgot that |
| 20:25.46 | Chestal | but that's rarely in use |
| 20:25.51 | menotume | right |
| 20:26.04 | Chestal | in my old Athlon 700 system I could barely hear the DVD |
| 20:26.09 | menotume | power-down time - bbiab (i hope) |
| 20:26.12 | Chestal | tells something about the general noise level |
| 20:26.20 | menotume | hehe |
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| 20:30.58 | carlstanford | hi |
| 20:31.11 | JeffM2501 | hello |
| 20:35.25 | carlstanford | I'd like to collaborate. David Trowbridge told me to start here |
| 20:35.51 | JeffM2501 | colaborate on? |
| 20:36.19 | carlstanford | ehm, developing bzflag :-) |
| 20:36.25 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 20:36.55 | JeffM2501 | best place to start is with the source |
| 20:36.59 | JeffM2501 | make some patches |
| 20:37.01 | JeffM2501 | submit them |
| 20:37.10 | JeffM2501 | and bug someone to appply them :) |
| 20:37.27 | JeffM2501 | what kinda stuff were you interested in doing? |
| 20:37.44 | carlstanford | ok I was missing this key :-) |
| 20:37.53 | JeffM2501 | kye? |
| 20:37.55 | JeffM2501 | key? |
| 20:38.55 | ruskie | ehh nice to play with server vars |
| 20:38.59 | brlcad | key to the city, of course |
| 20:39.07 | JeffM2501 | the emerald city? |
| 20:39.09 | carlstanford | such things you mentioned to get started, the "key" to start collaborating |
| 20:39.13 | JeffM2501 | I've allways wantd to go there |
| 20:39.20 | brlcad | carlstanford: hanging out here helps too |
| 20:39.38 | JeffM2501 | well colaborating is a big word, not sure if that allways happens here :) |
| 20:39.47 | brlcad | so we get to know you, you get to put up with our absurdities |
| 20:40.07 | JeffM2501 | carlstanford, what kinda coding do you like to do? |
| 20:40.20 | brlcad | hopefully computer coding |
| 20:40.28 | JeffM2501 | one would hope |
| 20:40.50 | brlcad | he's perhaps not the quickest of typists too? :) |
| 20:40.55 | JeffM2501 | lag |
| 20:41.36 | carlstanford | it's one against 51, give me a moment :) |
| 20:41.42 | carlstanford | well |
| 20:41.51 | brlcad | hmm.. blocking ctcp too :) |
| 20:42.36 | brlcad | cept DTRemenak |
| 20:42.39 | brlcad | he's not allowed |
| 20:43.00 | JeffM2501 | wasn't that the cheerleading one? |
| 20:43.41 | trepan | ra,ra,ya |
| 20:44.10 | brlcad | hopefully scanline's done repairing the cia systems |
| 20:44.19 | trepan | don't get me wrong, i'm fine with a plotless flick (it was situational) |
| 20:44.32 | carlstanford | I'm a C/C++ coder (I've worked a lot on C for my thesis @ university). Never coded games before.. |
| 20:45.12 | JeffM2501 | did you have anything specific you wanted to do or work on? or just general stuff? |
| 20:45.19 | JeffM2501 | and have you build the code before? |
| 20:45.42 | carlstanford | general stuff it's ok |
| 20:46.10 | JeffM2501 | there isn't much orginsation here, it's mostly just a "do what you want to do" thing within some guidelines |
| 20:46.28 | JeffM2501 | there is a bug list and todo you could take a crack at, as well as the feature request list |
| 20:46.41 | JeffM2501 | but nothing so formal as like a roadmap or people with specific jobs |
| 20:47.02 | carlstanford | ok |
| 20:47.18 | JeffM2501 | best way to jump in may be to make some patches for stuff on the todo |
| 20:47.29 | JeffM2501 | then bug someone to get apply them to source |
| 20:47.51 | JeffM2501 | then when they get sick of doing that, they will just ask tim to make you a user with commit access :) |
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| 20:48.33 | carlstanford | good |
| 20:48.37 | JeffM2501 | that way you learn the code, we learn your coding style, and everyone gets some time to fit together |
| 20:48.51 | JeffM2501 | tho "everyone" is a misleading term |
| 20:49.26 | JeffM2501 | guu projectcommits bzflag |
| 20:49.45 | JeffM2501 | hmmm maybe CIA's rss isn't back yet |
| 20:50.29 | carlstanford | thanks for your advice |
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| 20:51.39 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 20:55.38 | BearPerson | is there a comment symbol in .bzf maps? |
| 20:55.44 | BearPerson | .bzw that is |
| 20:56.50 | JeffM2501 | # |
| 20:57.06 | BearPerson | thanks |
| 20:58.37 | cosmos | "you got the wrong babel map bitches" |
| 20:58.42 | cosmos | no one is ever happy |
| 20:59.03 | JeffM2501 | you can't please all the people all the time |
| 20:59.08 | JeffM2501 | so don't even bother |
| 20:59.14 | cosmos | or any of them some of the time :) |
| 20:59.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:59.22 | JeffM2501 | so why bother |
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| 20:59.44 | cosmos | yugi sends about 5 emails a day its funny |
| 20:59.51 | JeffM2501 | realy? |
| 20:59.53 | cosmos | hes begging to be unbanned and he will play nice |
| 20:59.58 | JeffM2501 | he's trying to sign up for bzbb now |
| 21:00.04 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:00.13 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3710 |
| 21:00.23 | cosmos | heh |
| 21:00.26 | Chestal | yugi = 12.158.x.y? |
| 21:00.31 | cosmos | yes |
| 21:00.34 | cosmos | among others |
| 21:00.52 | Chestal | got some Hitler crap etc. from him in my logs |
| 21:01.08 | JeffM2501 | and he wonders why he was baned |
| 21:01.33 | CBG | JeffM: The email button is actually between the pm and www buttons. |
| 21:01.41 | CBG | No doubt he will pick up on that. |
| 21:02.02 | JeffM2501 | it's still to one side of the IM ones |
| 21:02.12 | JeffM2501 | so next is a vaible descriptor |
| 21:02.24 | JeffM2501 | it's just not "right next" to it |
| 21:02.39 | CBG | I know... But I'm sure Yugi won't think of that. |
| 21:03.03 | JeffM2501 | I doubt he has the attention span to read anything anyway |
| 21:03.07 | JeffM2501 | so it maters not |
| 21:03.07 | cosmos | heh |
| 21:03.10 | CBG | true. lol |
| 21:03.15 | cosmos | i replied back once telling him no |
| 21:03.26 | cosmos | then he responds with how he will take my servers out |
| 21:03.30 | cosmos | now hes back to begging |
| 21:03.42 | CBG | On an entirely different topic, Whats the code to make an object drive-through-able in bzw? |
| 21:03.59 | JeffM2501 | I'm going to tell him that once he gets personal exceptions on the servers that complain about him and play's nice for a couple months then we'll look into giveing him back his global login |
| 21:04.11 | JeffM2501 | if he dosn't want that then he's got all the non reg servers to play on |
| 21:04.22 | JeffM2501 | CBG, drivethrough |
| 21:04.35 | CBG | I'm SURE i tired that. :( |
| 21:04.45 | CBG | Does it work on all objects? |
| 21:04.49 | JeffM2501 | should |
| 21:04.57 | CBG | Hmm. OK. Thanks :D |
| 21:04.57 | JeffM2501 | did when I wrote it |
| 21:04.59 | cosmos | ill ask him to send a dna sample, a signed notarized authorization from his parents and $500 for the crap hes caused |
| 21:05.11 | CBG | lol cosmos |
| 21:05.26 | JeffM2501 | cosmos, what ever you want to do to let him have an exception, |
| 21:07.17 | JeffM2501 | do you know his age? |
| 21:07.18 | CBG | It works, Jeff. Not that I ever doubted you. Cheers. |
| 21:07.31 | JeffM2501 | well it better work :) |
| 21:07.40 | brlcad | I doubted |
| 21:07.47 | CBG | :D lol |
| 21:07.48 | cosmos | birdie says hes like 12 or something |
| 21:07.52 | JeffM2501 | people change my code all the time, so nothing realy suprises me |
| 21:07.55 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:07.57 | CBG | Birdie said I was 11 |
| 21:08.02 | JeffM2501 | well then no bzbb for him |
| 21:08.05 | CBG | Dont believe a word Birdie says. :( |
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| 21:08.17 | JeffM2501 | you could pass for 11 |
| 21:08.22 | cosmos | heh |
| 21:08.25 | CBG | Sometimes... |
| 21:08.39 | CBG | But this particular time, I was acting my real age. Not 11. |
| 21:08.48 | JeffM2501 | 5 years isn't realy much in the grand scheme |
| 21:08.55 | CBG | Im 16 now? |
| 21:08.58 | cosmos | not at that age |
| 21:09.08 | cosmos | in many cases its worse |
| 21:09.09 | JeffM2501 | arn't you? |
| 21:09.19 | CBG | What makes you think I am? |
| 21:09.27 | JeffM2501 | thought you had said you were |
| 21:09.38 | JeffM2501 | but then 15-18 is about the same |
| 21:09.39 | CBG | Oh. OK :) |
| 21:09.51 | CBG | Beleive me, I have changed loads since I was 11. |
| 21:09.51 | brlcad | ahh, irc .. where men are men, women are men, and little girls are fbi agents.. |
| 21:09.52 | JeffM2501 | dosn't really mater |
| 21:10.20 | JeffM2501 | CBG, I'm sure you think you have, tell me when your 30 |
| 21:10.24 | JeffM2501 | then look back |
| 21:10.31 | CBG | Lol. :) Will do. |
| 21:10.42 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: hey, don't knock it. i was 16 when you and i first met ;) |
| 21:10.44 | CBG | If you can still get up the stairs to the computer |
| 21:10.56 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, yes, but your a genetnic freak |
| 21:10.58 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 21:10.58 | cosmos | when hes 30 i hope to be retired |
| 21:11.04 | brlcad | purple_cow: and look how much you've changed |
| 21:11.13 | CBG | genetnic freak? |
| 21:11.20 | purple_cow | brlcad: yep. i'm angier now |
| 21:11.36 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, are you now the drunk and bitter purple cow? |
| 21:11.40 | cosmos | are you married purple? |
| 21:11.42 | purple_cow | err, angrier |
| 21:11.46 | purple_cow | cosmos: no |
| 21:11.53 | JeffM2501 | and back then I think I only met that david trowbridge bot |
| 21:11.55 | cosmos | married tends to make you angrier |
| 21:11.56 | CBG | DO any of you regret drinking? |
| 21:12.06 | CBG | As in alcohol... |
| 21:12.08 | JeffM2501 | CBG, in general, or in the past? |
| 21:12.19 | CBG | In general |
| 21:12.22 | JeffM2501 | when I was 18 I was freaking stupid |
| 21:12.23 | CBG | Do you wish you never had? |
| 21:12.28 | JeffM2501 | ohh no |
| 21:12.34 | cosmos | hell no |
| 21:12.36 | JeffM2501 | just there are times when I wish I hadn't |
| 21:12.36 | CBG | Show me someone who wasnt stupid at 18. :P |
| 21:12.55 | JeffM2501 | CBG, ask any 18 year old, they will tell you they arn't stupid |
| 21:12.56 | cosmos | ive woken up with naked women. thanks to the drinking |
| 21:12.59 | cosmos | you cant knock that |
| 21:13.00 | CBG | btw: sorry for being SO OT. |
| 21:13.10 | CBG | JeffM: Not whern they are 40 looking back. :P |
| 21:13.13 | CBG | *when |
| 21:13.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:13.22 | creeperz | about how long does it take USPS to Air Mail within the United States? |
| 21:13.23 | cosmos | although waking up on a street in new orleans wasnt the tops |
| 21:13.29 | JeffM2501 | your doing school tests so your probably 17 going on 18 |
| 21:13.29 | CBG | within? |
| 21:13.50 | CBG | Me? |
| 21:14.08 | cosmos | creepers depends |
| 21:14.11 | CBG | I guess the UK School system varies from the US system. |
| 21:14.18 | cosmos | on whether or not they loot the mail before they ship it |
| 21:14.25 | CBG | I'm doing GCSEs in just over 2 weeks. |
| 21:14.42 | creeperz | ah |
| 21:14.43 | CBG | That makes me 16 (or at least 15 and about 9/10 months) |
| 21:14.43 | creeperz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.07 | cosmos | just dont use UPS |
| 21:15.16 | cosmos | they passed one of my packages through the incinerator by accident |
| 21:15.19 | creeperz | FedEx > UPS |
| 21:15.19 | cosmos | then tried to deliver it |
| 21:15.42 | JeffM2501 | so then why did you question when I said you were 16? |
| 21:15.50 | JeffM2501 | or were you just trying to screw with people again? |
| 21:15.55 | CBG | I just asked what made you think I was 16... |
| 21:15.56 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 21:16.01 | cosmos | hes 16 theres your answer |
| 21:16.02 | CBG | Again? |
| 21:16.09 | brlcad | purple_cow: white wines are good for that |
| 21:16.54 | CBG | *have. Argh. |
| 21:17.05 | CBG | *minutes _ of. Argh. |
| 21:17.21 | CBG | Is LouMan a Dev?? |
| 21:17.32 | CBG | Or does he just make maps for a living? |
| 21:17.53 | brlcad | LouMan is not a dev |
| 21:18.06 | brlcad | at least not one that I know of |
| 21:18.19 | CBG | He seems to make at least one new amazing map each week. |
| 21:18.30 | cosmos | 50 afghan women beheaded for crimes of adultery, speaking out of turn and not wearing the head scarves. lots of progress over there i see |
| 21:18.34 | CBG | He's my latest Idol. |
| 21:18.44 | CBG | cosmos: Thats Islam for you. |
| 21:18.53 | JeffM2501 | creeperz, cus it's an explaation for when people act like idiots |
| 21:19.00 | CBG | Their motto seems to be: Kill them all! |
| 21:19.23 | CBG | Ah ye, Jeff. I am not stupid, Just ignorant. |
| 21:19.39 | CBG | Ye canne hold that agesnt meh. |
| 21:19.53 | brlcad | eek |
| 21:20.45 | cosmos | heh new study shows kids cant hit slow pitches because their brains are wired for fast paced activities |
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| 21:20.53 | cosmos | so scrap tball and underhand baseball |
| 21:21.02 | CBG | Hi meno. |
| 21:21.09 | CBG | tball ? |
| 21:21.23 | menotume | re hi |
| 21:21.52 | purple_cow | brlcad: wine is more of an evening thing for me :P |
| 21:22.10 | cosmos | hahaha mich principal bans students from playing "louie louie" yet allows "baby got back" at school dance |
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| 21:24.51 | cosmos | WASHINGTON - The Bush administration, in one of its biggest decisions on environ |
| 21:24.51 | cosmos | mental issues, moved Thursday to open up nearly all remote national forest lands |
| 21:24.52 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.00 | cosmos | coming soon, wendys in the grand canyon |
| 21:25.04 | brlcad | purple_cow: but maybe that's why your angrier |
| 21:25.13 | purple_cow | brlcad: hehe, maybe |
| 21:25.17 | purple_cow | i'm more inclined to blame school |
| 21:25.31 | brlcad | that shall soon pass :) |
| 21:25.38 | brlcad | then you'll miss it |
| 21:26.12 | CBG | Oh. A few days back I inverted my macs screen colours... |
| 21:26.18 | CBG | Looked cool on secretplace :) |
| 21:26.19 | uso | ~x en de wendys |
| 21:26.24 | CBG | lol |
| 21:26.32 | uso | ~dict wendys |
| 21:26.38 | uso | ~dict wendy |
| 21:26.44 | uso | hmm |
| 21:26.46 | cosmos | wendys is a fast food burger joint |
| 21:26.49 | BenUrban | lol |
| 21:26.53 | uso | ah, lol |
| 21:27.02 | CBG | wendy is also JeffM's wife. |
| 21:27.05 | uso | must have been something like this :) |
| 21:27.12 | CBG | ;) |
| 21:27.48 | CBG | Aww nuts. If you invert the screen colours, bz screenshots still come out normal. |
| 21:27.59 | CBG | That hadn't occured to me. :( Drat. |
| 21:28.09 | BenUrban | well lol |
| 21:28.14 | BenUrban | simple solution |
| 21:28.18 | BenUrban | invert the screenshot |
| 21:28.22 | CBG | lol |
| 21:28.26 | CBG | True. :D |
| 21:30.06 | brlcad | BenUrban: you only blame it until you have it, then you realize it's not the problem or the solution |
| 21:33.20 | CBG | bzfs error: unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping |
| 21:35.34 | CBG | Nevermind, I sorted i :D |
| 21:37.56 | BenUrban | brlcad: no, i mean the idea of money is the problem |
| 21:38.16 | BenUrban | brlcad: what problems in society today can't be ultimately traced to money? |
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| 21:44.09 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, were you ever able to get bz to build on anita? |
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| 22:10.57 | Inferno | hello |
| 22:11.28 | spldart | hi |
| 22:12.43 | Inferno | why is everyone leaving? |
| 22:12.55 | Inferno | scared I'm gona burn them? |
| 22:13.34 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.35 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.35 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.35 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.35 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.35 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.37 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.39 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.41 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.50 | DTRemenak | erm, that really wasn't necessary cosmos |
| 22:14.05 | Inferno | what? |
| 22:14.28 | Inferno | lol |
| 22:14.45 | Inferno | I'm only more powerfull when burning |
| 22:14.53 | spldart | I banned a dude for that on my server a couple few days ago :( |
| 22:15.27 | Inferno | isn't cosmos the one who ones hepcat? |
| 22:15.41 | bryjen | DTR: http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/ ? |
| 22:16.55 | Inferno | I actually don't know anything about that OS, not related to my name, sry |
| 22:17.04 | DTRemenak | bryjen: I was looking at that sometime recently. Don't remember why. |
| 22:18.35 | DTRemenak | iirc it's an offshoot of plan9 |
| 22:18.46 | bryjen | http://freshmeat.net/projects/inferno/ |
| 22:18.47 | Inferno | ? |
| 22:18.59 | bryjen | ah, bell labs/at&t/lucent |
| 22:19.15 | Inferno | who here even knows what Inferno means? |
| 22:19.27 | cosmos | i know about disco inferno |
| 22:19.35 | Inferno | not that |
| 22:19.53 | bryjen | its something to do with a green leafy bush, no? |
| 22:19.58 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:20.06 | Inferno | http://www.answers.com/inferno&r=67 |
| 22:21.13 | Inferno | yake the 2nd definition please :) |
| 22:21.35 | Inferno | take* |
| 22:21.45 | ruskie | ... |
| 22:23.24 | cosmos | inferno dont you know the only approved reading under the Bush administration is the Bible? |
| 22:30.22 | spldart | OMG I have had some real pricks on my server this last week |
| 22:31.43 | trepan | JeffM2501: which engine, and why? |
| 22:31.51 | JeffM2501 | torque |
| 22:32.00 | JeffM2501 | cus I'm horibly curious about it :) |
| 22:32.20 | trepan | how much? |
| 22:32.26 | JeffM2501 | 100$ |
| 22:32.41 | *** join/#bzflag scelestus (~a7daff04@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:32.51 | JeffM2501 | bonus is techincaly large enough to let me buy both engine and headphones and then some |
| 22:32.51 | scelestus | hello everyone |
| 22:32.54 | JeffM2501 | hello |
| 22:33.15 | scelestus | I was wondering where I coudl find good documentation for starting my own server |
| 22:33.20 | trepan | ~bzfs |
| 22:33.21 | ibot | rumour has it, bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 22:33.34 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 22:33.47 | JeffM2501 | if you can't tell, it's been asked before :) |
| 22:33.56 | trepan | ~bzw |
| 22:33.57 | ibot | somebody said bzw was at http://users.pandora.be/dpf/bzWorlds/index.html |
| 22:34.06 | trepan | need to change that one... |
| 22:34.16 | scelestus | Yeah I really didn't want to be another one to ask but I figured it would be fastest this way to just suck it up and be the next moron lol |
| 22:34.30 | JeffM2501 | trepan, torque intereses me in that it would be a complete solution, tho there would be some caveats |
| 22:35.00 | trepan | JeffM2501: but why? plan on making a bin-dist only game? |
| 22:35.07 | JeffM2501 | well |
| 22:35.08 | blast007 | scelestus: another good reference is http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzfs.6s |
| 22:35.10 | JeffM2501 | been reading on it |
| 22:35.20 | JeffM2501 | the only thing that can't be distroed would be the engine sources |
| 22:35.24 | JeffM2501 | the game code could be |
| 22:35.31 | JeffM2501 | like a game plugin |
| 22:35.38 | scelestus | Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. |
| 22:35.41 | JeffM2501 | but that is one of the caveats |
| 22:35.53 | trepan | TNL + ogre + ode? |
| 22:36.08 | JeffM2501 | there are many other solutions |
| 22:36.11 | JeffM2501 | just a lot more work |
| 22:36.16 | JeffM2501 | torque has it all in a nice package |
| 22:36.19 | JeffM2501 | with editors |
| 22:36.22 | JeffM2501 | with list server |
| 22:36.24 | JeffM2501 | with it all |
| 22:36.28 | JeffM2501 | and I'm curious on it |
| 22:36.43 | JeffM2501 | mostly just pondering |
| 22:37.03 | trepan | ever get curious about the smell of burnt money? ;) |
| 22:37.10 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:37.15 | JeffM2501 | I'm not poor |
| 22:37.29 | JeffM2501 | $100 is worth it even just to see how somone else does it |
| 22:37.50 | trepan | but you don't really get to see the insides, i assume |
| 22:37.56 | JeffM2501 | you get full source |
| 22:38.01 | trepan | ah, neat |
| 22:38.01 | JeffM2501 | you just can't distro it |
| 22:38.06 | JeffM2501 | you can mod it to high heaven |
| 22:38.10 | JeffM2501 | and you own the mods |
| 22:38.30 | JeffM2501 | just every dev on your team that builds the engine needs a $100 copy of the code |
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| 22:47.55 | JeffM2501 | from what I can tell of the license, it' would be ok to distro the game part as long as it was abstracted from the engine, and any engine mods you made. |
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| 22:50.34 | JeffM2501 | it's got editor exporters for blender, mya, lightwave, max, milkshape, and something called GameSpace, as well as some custom tools |
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| 23:30.03 | RPG_ | hi |
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| 23:39.12 | RPG_ | anyone in the mood for a compile error? |
| 23:39.38 | Chestal | hi RPG |
| 23:39.46 | RPG_ | hi |
| 23:39.51 | Chestal | well, we can always ignore it :-) |
| 23:39.52 | JeffM2501 | what error? |
| 23:39.56 | Chestal | I am 9% asleep already anyway |
| 23:39.59 | RPG_ | lol |
| 23:40.08 | RPG_ | 44 G:\Programs\Dev-Cpp\repisitories\bzflag\src\common\bzfio.cxx [Warning] unused parameter 'micros' |
| 23:40.11 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.14 | RPG_ | 235 G:\Programs\Dev-Cpp\repisitories\bzflag\src\c-ares\ares_init.c [Warning] passing arg 6 of `RegQueryValueExA' from incompatible pointer type |
| 23:40.16 | RPG_ | it goes on |
| 23:40.25 | JeffM2501 | what are you building with? |
| 23:40.31 | RPG_ | Dev-C++ |
| 23:40.36 | wegstar | ah |
| 23:40.36 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 23:40.44 | JeffM2501 | bug lan to get it updated |
| 23:40.52 | JeffM2501 | probably has new files |
| 23:40.55 | RPG_ | is there a temporary fix? |
| 23:41.16 | RPG_ | blast007, whats wrong with the directory? |
| 23:41.31 | RPG_ | i ran out of space on my other HD's, so I went to my new one, G:\ |
| 23:41.35 | blast007 | nothing |
| 23:41.36 | JeffM2501 | he was just saying it shoudl have told us it was devC++ |
| 23:41.45 | RPG_ | oh |
| 23:41.58 | JeffM2501 | looks like its using stuff that devC++ dosn't like |
| 23:42.03 | JeffM2501 | I don't know much about how lan set that up |
| 23:42.12 | RPG_ | heres the line it highlighted for me: |
| 23:42.17 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.25 | JeffM2501 | we don't realy consider devC++ a "real" environ |
| 23:42.34 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't like a pointer size |
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| 23:42.48 | JeffM2501 | send lan a PM and see if he can fix it |
| 23:42.50 | RPG_ | :sigh: i want VC, but I also don't want to give my college eudcation to microsoft |
| 23:42.55 | JeffM2501 | DTR may also be able to see about it |
| 23:43.12 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, your college education costs 50$? |
| 23:43.18 | wegstar | ? |
| 23:43.23 | RPG_ | it's only $50? |
| 23:43.28 | JeffM2501 | edu version |
| 23:43.33 | JeffM2501 | may even be less |
| 23:43.42 | JeffM2501 | there are many ways to get it cheap |
| 23:43.44 | JeffM2501 | and legaly |
| 23:44.10 | JeffM2501 | ebay is a good way |
| 23:44.14 | JeffM2501 | edu discount is another |
| 23:44.33 | RPG_ | cause last time I looked at the price at my local Fry's it was around $100 i thought |
| 23:44.42 | JeffM2501 | well yeah |
| 23:44.44 | JeffM2501 | that was retail |
| 23:44.48 | JeffM2501 | never pay retal :) |
| 23:45.27 | JeffM2501 | but send lan a PM |
| 23:45.31 | JeffM2501 | he should be able to fix it |
| 23:45.36 | RPG_ | ok |
| 23:45.38 | JeffM2501 | stuff in there changes all the time in CVS |
| 23:45.46 | JeffM2501 | and lan isn't very good at updating his project |
| 23:45.50 | brlcad | RPG_: why are you trying to compile anyways?... |
| 23:45.51 | wegstar | he's usually around at hepcat late at night PST |
| 23:46.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah what did oyu need outa the new version? |
| 23:46.02 | wegstar | on Fridays |
| 23:46.04 | brlcad | 2.0.2 not good enough for ya? |
| 23:46.22 | DTRemenak | brlcad: for me it's all about the shot reload timers :) |
| 23:46.25 | RPG_ | brldad, i wanted to check out some of the new map features, trepan said objects could have "light" properties, and "glow" |
| 23:46.47 | RPG_ | and start tweaking up my map with lights |
| 23:46.50 | brlcad | DTRemenak: and you know how to make a compile work, so it's a no-contest |
| 23:47.08 | brlcad | for folks that can't work through build issues, though... |
| 23:47.21 | *** join/#bzflag Death_Barrel (~Death@adsl-70-247-47-30.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 23:47.25 | brlcad | RPG_: ahh, better reason than most |
| 23:47.57 | RPG_ | i miss the days when we had installer files for each protocol jump :) |
| 23:47.57 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you could just ask for a build |
| 23:48.07 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, this isn't a proto jump |
| 23:48.41 | RPG_ | and is it true that objects in maps will be able to glow? |
| 23:49.03 | brlcad | if you squint really hard and hold onto a power cable, they will |
| 23:49.05 | JeffM2501 | they can have emisive light |
| 23:49.08 | RPG_ | glow as in change the lightness for a certain range around the object |
| 23:49.09 | JeffM2501 | but it's not glow like you think |
| 23:49.13 | JeffM2501 | they won't glow onto other objects |
| 23:49.16 | JeffM2501 | that's what a light is for |
| 23:49.32 | RPG_ | trepan said they could glow onto other objects, unless I misunderstood him |
| 23:49.42 | JeffM2501 | IIRC you would need a light for that |
| 23:49.46 | JeffM2501 | but he did add lights |
| 23:49.54 | JeffM2501 | so you can make lights that glow onto other objects |
| 23:49.56 | RPG_ | yep, that's what i wanted |
| 23:50.07 | RPG_ | my map gets too dark sometimes |
| 23:50.08 | JeffM2501 | that is a light that does it, not an object that does it |
| 23:50.12 | RPG_ | contributing to my declining eyesight |
| 23:50.18 | RPG_ | o |
| 23:50.19 | RPG_ | k |
| 23:51.20 | RPG_ | so can someone e-mail me bzflag.exe ? |
| 23:51.25 | RPG_ | i don't like installers |
| 23:51.28 | wegstar | O-O |
| 23:51.37 | JeffM2501 | why don't you like installers? |
| 23:51.47 | wegstar | I don't trust them either... |
| 23:51.58 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 23:52.03 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 23:52.04 | RPG_ | just the concept of installing something, drilling it into your computer |
| 23:52.10 | JeffM2501 | drilling? |
| 23:52.17 | JeffM2501 | we don't use a MSI based installer |
| 23:52.22 | JeffM2501 | no registry trickery |
| 23:52.27 | JeffM2501 | no magic |
| 23:52.30 | RPG_ | really? |
| 23:52.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:52.34 | JeffM2501 | we use NISI |
| 23:52.37 | menotume | ya - all stuff in one place |
| 23:52.39 | JeffM2501 | NSIS |
| 23:52.47 | JeffM2501 | not that install sheild thing |
| 23:52.52 | RPG_ | registry stuff is the reason I stay away from installers |
| 23:52.53 | JeffM2501 | it's all self contained |
| 23:53.02 | RPG_ | when you uninstall, sometimes stuff isn't deleted |
| 23:53.02 | JeffM2501 | the only reg we add is the uninstall |
| 23:53.14 | JeffM2501 | I wrote the uninstaller |
| 23:53.20 | JeffM2501 | it will remove any file the installer added |
| 23:53.24 | wegstar | doesn't guarantee full compatibility.. |
| 23:53.25 | RPG_ | does it delete reg.... ok |
| 23:53.26 | JeffM2501 | no more |
| 23:53.27 | JeffM2501 | not less |
| 23:53.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:53.37 | JeffM2501 | it removed it's reg items |
| 23:53.40 | JeffM2501 | all 2 of them |
| 23:54.09 | RPG_ | well, if theres an extra one hiding away in the corners of your hard drive, i'll gladly take it :) |
| 23:54.12 | JeffM2501 | the only thing it wont' remove is your config |
| 23:54.17 | JeffM2501 | or anything in your my docs |
| 23:54.23 | JeffM2501 | because another install may be using it. |
| 23:54.30 | JeffM2501 | it's building now RPG_ |
| 23:54.39 | RPG_ | :-P |
| 23:54.52 | JeffM2501 | I'll send you just the exes if you want |
| 23:54.58 | JeffM2501 | you'll need server tho too |
| 23:55.04 | RPG_ | thats right |
| 23:55.10 | RPG_ | probably the isntaller |
| 23:55.12 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: my build is almost done if you want to save your time |
| 23:55.17 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 23:55.20 | RPG_ | garrett@garrettsites.net |
| 23:55.25 | RPG_ | if you want to use email |
| 23:56.00 | DTRemenak | RPG_: I'm just gonna make a beta post on bzbb with the installer. if you want the exe's separately I can send them to you. |
| 23:56.12 | RPG_ | i'll take the installer |
| 23:56.15 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: Windows right now, sadly enough |
| 23:56.17 | BearPerson | 2.0.4 coming out soon? |
| 23:56.18 | RPG_ | now that I know it doesn't muck up the registry |
| 23:56.42 | RPG_ | i heard you were fixing the teleporter-on-mesh bug, just wanted to say it's really annoying |
| 23:57.19 | DTRemenak | RPG_: afaik that can't be fixed until protocol breaks |
| 23:57.38 | DTRemenak | BearPerson: probably not |
| 23:57.50 | RPG_ | and when protocol breaks I shall have the grand release of my map |
