| 00:06.11 | JeffM2501 | I don't get what he means by 'redirect" |
| 00:06.19 | JeffM2501 | the OS should just give us a path |
| 00:06.36 | JeffM2501 | it can be a network path sure, but that should wor fine as well |
| 00:06.53 | JeffM2501 | I know you can do roving profiles where your profile is on a domain controller |
| 00:06.58 | JeffM2501 | but it's suposed to be transperant |
| 00:07.04 | JeffM2501 | it is for our app here |
| 00:07.09 | JeffM2501 | we just get paths |
| 00:07.29 | JeffM2501 | unless he's not on a domain and doing something "wierd" where like his my docs dir is a shortcut |
| 00:07.56 | JeffM2501 | I don't know what we can do in code to make it work for a network, there are no network file IO functions |
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| 00:10.42 | DTRemenak | I dunno. have you tried passing it a network path? |
| 00:10.49 | elwin | I have a question.... |
| 00:10.55 | DTRemenak | I have an ansewr |
| 00:10.58 | JeffM2501 | gonna after I get this bzdb thing in |
| 00:11.03 | DTRemenak | heh, ok :) |
| 00:11.08 | JeffM2501 | I have done it in our app |
| 00:11.12 | JeffM2501 | and plugins |
| 00:11.20 | JeffM2501 | get a net path, shove it into fopen and I'm good |
| 00:11.32 | elwin | thank you...I remember when I first played bzflag there was a way to do a time limit on good flags...how is this accomplished? |
| 00:11.44 | JeffM2501 | you can do a shot limit |
| 00:11.49 | DTRemenak | there has never been a time limit on good flags |
| 00:12.09 | DTRemenak | at least not since it's been open source, I can't speak for before that |
| 00:12.17 | elwin | there hasn't? maybe I just got killed so fast I thought there was |
| 00:12.22 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
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| 00:12.43 | elwin | okay, well that answers that. |
| 00:12.45 | elwin | thank you. |
| 00:12.51 | DTRemenak | you could do it with a server patch |
| 00:13.10 | elwin | I am, alas, not a programmer |
| 00:13.14 | JeffM2501 | wana do the bzdb var as configdir DTRemenak? |
| 00:13.15 | DTRemenak | wouldn't be too difficult, but I don't know of anyone who's done it, and certainly not officially |
| 00:13.21 | JeffM2501 | or profiledir ? |
| 00:13.27 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, whatever :) |
| 00:13.35 | JeffM2501 | yourmommadir it is then |
| 00:13.38 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 00:14.13 | bryjen | set yourmammadir=sofat |
| 00:14.22 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:15.04 | elwin | well, I am off to go peruse the forums... |
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| 00:16.09 | JeffM2501 | hah |
| 00:16.15 | JeffM2501 | fatal flow |
| 00:16.20 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bryjen.bzflag.org |
| 00:16.23 | JeffM2501 | how can I put the config dir name in the config |
| 00:16.33 | JeffM2501 | cus it needs to know the config dir to get the config |
| 00:16.54 | JeffM2501 | have to be a command line swap |
| 00:17.05 | JeffM2501 | whohoooo chicken! |
| 00:18.46 | DTRemenak | hehe |
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| 00:19.40 | bryjen | hrm |
| 00:19.54 | JeffM2501 | -configdir "some dir here" ? |
| 00:20.04 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 00:20.09 | JeffM2501 | or put it in bzdb |
| 00:20.14 | JeffM2501 | and make them use -config |
| 00:20.16 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 00:20.39 | DTRemenak | whatever :) |
| 00:20.42 | JeffM2501 | -config allready exists |
| 00:20.47 | JeffM2501 | just trying to see what is cleaner |
| 00:20.53 | JeffM2501 | probalby bzdb |
| 00:20.58 | JeffM2501 | then each config can have it's own dir |
| 00:21.06 | JeffM2501 | may make testing easyer |
| 00:21.16 | JeffM2501 | if somone uses -config for like multiple instances or something |
| 00:28.06 | JeffM2501 | bahh won't work right |
| 00:28.12 | JeffM2501 | the -config asumes it's just a file name |
| 00:28.14 | JeffM2501 | not a full path |
| 00:31.21 | trepan | prefixing -config with the configDir made more sense for its original use =) |
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| 00:33.46 | JeffM2501 | yeah it did |
| 00:33.49 | JeffM2501 | ohh well |
| 00:33.52 | JeffM2501 | I tried |
| 00:36.34 | trepan | it wouldn't be so bad to make it an absolute filename |
| 00:37.00 | trepan | very few folks ever use it (or so i'd guess) |
| 00:37.00 | JeffM2501 | there are other problems |
| 00:37.07 | JeffM2501 | we set some dirs before we even load the config |
| 00:37.36 | trepan | is that necessary? |
| 00:37.42 | JeffM2501 | didn't look |
| 00:37.57 | JeffM2501 | just saw that we hit the dir function a couple times before config load |
| 00:38.05 | JeffM2501 | still at work |
| 00:38.09 | JeffM2501 | so can't do much more |
| 00:39.13 | trepan | parseConfigName is called pretty early |
| 00:39.20 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 00:39.34 | JeffM2501 | think i counted 3-4 calls to the dir before that |
| 00:39.37 | JeffM2501 | I put breakpoints |
| 00:39.48 | JeffM2501 | probably from the constructors of classes |
| 00:39.57 | JeffM2501 | made it take a full path |
| 00:40.20 | JeffM2501 | it used my config but didn't make any other dirs in there like it normaly does |
| 00:40.25 | JeffM2501 | I'll look at it when I get home |
| 00:40.31 | JeffM2501 | aka, in a smidge :) |
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| 01:27.16 | findlay | jpa-: my original legitimate suspicion seems to have had the germ of correctness in it (: |
| 01:27.46 | findlay | namely that bzflag was being jumpy because of some external program not behaving correctly |
| 01:29.21 | findlay | having just updated gnome around the time, I upgraded from gnome-2.8.? to gnome-2.10.1 |
| 01:36.37 | uso | any admin here on knjiga? |
| 01:37.44 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bryjen.bzflag.org |
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| 02:58.55 | AndyIII | hey all |
| 02:59.30 | JeffM2501 | hello |
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| 03:21.21 | bz3831 | anyone know how to use those custom maps i download from internet? |
| 03:21.33 | JeffM2501 | run a server with one |
| 03:21.36 | JeffM2501 | join it |
| 03:21.37 | JeffM2501 | play |
| 03:21.54 | bz3831 | what should the file extension be? |
| 03:22.07 | JeffM2501 | dosnt' mater |
| 03:22.19 | trepan | .bzw is the standard though |
| 03:22.21 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.23 | bz3831 | doesn't matter where i place the maps? |
| 03:22.25 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:22.32 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 03:22.36 | bz3831 | i see.. cool.. let me try and now and see |
| 03:22.39 | bz3831 | thanks so much |
| 03:22.44 | JeffM2501 | you know it's command line |
| 03:22.49 | JeffM2501 | not point and click |
| 03:22.54 | bz3831 | ya |
| 03:23.01 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 03:25.18 | bz3831 | ok.. i am doing something wrong |
| 03:25.32 | bz3831 | so i used command line and what do i do? |
| 03:25.38 | bz3831 | can you tell me the full command |
| 03:25.47 | bz3831 | if my map file is iceworld.map |
| 03:28.31 | blast007 | there isn't really a "full command", cuz there are many options that you may or may not want |
| 03:28.50 | blast007 | but the real basic would be: bzfs -world "iceworld.map" |
| 03:29.18 | bz3831 | ok.. let me try.. thx |
| 03:29.50 | blast007 | that's assuming you already cd'ed to your bzflag directory, and that the map file in in your bzflag directory |
| 03:30.10 | bz3831 | ya they are |
| 03:33.51 | bz3831 | hmm.. after i typed the command.. it just stall there and nothing happens.. does it take a long time to load? |
| 03:34.25 | blast007 | it's running, just not any output by default |
| 03:34.32 | blast007 | add -d -d -d to the end of the command |
| 03:34.53 | trepan | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 03:35.36 | trepan | that link should help you set up a server... |
| 03:36.27 | trepan | ~bzfs |
| 03:36.28 | ibot | somebody said bzfs was the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 03:36.56 | bz3831 | cool guys.. thanks for the help |
| 03:37.08 | jpa- | morning |
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| 05:22.55 | findlay | TimRiker: I solved my jumpiness problem, it was not anything having to do directly with bzflag |
| 05:24.32 | TimRiker | and? inquiring minds want to know. |
| 05:25.19 | findlay | must have been something to do with gnome because I switched to 2.10.0 from 2.8.? |
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| 05:25.59 | findlay | that is what I suspected yesterday, though I didn't have the presence of mind to run bzflag from TWM or some other more robust desktop (: |
| 05:26.17 | findlay | but it seems to run well in either case now |
| 05:26.50 | findlay | 2.10.1 actually |
| 05:34.38 | TimRiker | hmm. interesting. |
| 05:34.58 | TimRiker | I still wonder how that could effect it. |
| 05:48.27 | sgk284 | TimRiker, |
| 05:48.30 | sgk284 | ping |
| 05:48.54 | TimRiker | pong |
| 05:49.19 | sgk284 | whats your thoughts on making heavier weapons like GM and laser make you move slower or affect other attributes? |
| 05:49.29 | findlay | TimRiker: don't know |
| 05:50.30 | sgk284 | some flags already do, like burrow so it wouldnt be a far stretch |
| 05:51.45 | TimRiker | sgk284: have to think about it. I really want the laser length limited. That's so we can do less frequent updates for distant players. |
| 05:52.02 | TimRiker | 110% or so would be fine. |
| 05:52.10 | sgk284 | right |
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| 11:01.46 | jpa- | morning |
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| 11:12.21 | ruskie | lo |
| 11:13.08 | jpa- | :) |
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| 11:27.36 | jpa- | sgk284: \o/ |
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| 12:55.02 | menotume | ruskie walks the echoing halls of #bzflag |
| 12:55.17 | ruskie | ??? |
| 12:55.22 | menotume | echo :) |
| 12:55.26 | ruskie | lol |
| 13:03.08 | Pimpinella | menotume: i need your help |
| 13:03.26 | Pimpinella | when the matchserver lately crashed on /countdown |
| 13:03.51 | Pimpinella | was it emediately after the /countdown command or later? |
| 13:03.58 | menotume | ahhh |
| 13:04.03 | menotume | right at '0' |
| 13:04.32 | Pimpinella | the moment when the match should have started? |
| 13:04.38 | menotume | yes |
| 13:04.42 | Pimpinella | ty |
| 13:04.45 | menotume | the countdown finished ... |
| 13:04.59 | menotume | i right-clicked to spawn, and nothing happened |
| 13:07.20 | Pimpinella | was there a message like "The match has started!...Good Luck Teams!" ? |
| 13:11.19 | menotume | Pimpinella: sry, i don't recall |
| 13:11.23 | Pimpinella | np |
| 13:11.39 | menotume | Pimpinella: if I had to _guess_, i would say yes, and that the 'boo' sound happened also, only because i didn't notice anything strage untill i couldn't spawn. |
| 13:11.44 | menotume | but, i'm not sure |
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| 13:14.41 | menotume | morn' Grumbler |
| 13:15.11 | Grumbler | morin menotume |
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| 13:24.30 | Pimpinella | packVirtualFlagCapture looked buggy to me before |
| 13:27.16 | Pimpinella | menotume: when it happens again to you, try to remember as much details a possible, what messages, if anybody spawned before the countdown ended.. such things |
| 13:27.27 | menotume | ok, will do |
| 13:27.32 | Pimpinella | ty :) |
| 13:28.04 | menotume | np, and a screen cap too |
| 13:28.16 | Pimpinella | great :) |
| 13:28.20 | Grumbler | notarized |
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| 13:47.14 | tupone | blast007: I'm sorry cvs is broken for you and all M$ OS licensee. I nee some who volunteer debugging why :( |
| 13:47.54 | blast007 | :) |
| 13:49.02 | blast007 | I've been poking around in the source a bit, but I'm not very familar with winsock/curl/ares |
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| 13:52.01 | tupone | I think we need to debug the behaviour of libcurl in windows to know why, going with debugger through the source |
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| 14:45.57 | menotume | Pimpinella: I crashed it ! |
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| 15:41.11 | ToughShooter | ~bzflist |
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| 15:57.13 | Legoguy | is it just me or is global login not working at all |
| 15:57.56 | Legoguy | (this is what i don't like about global login. it depends on a server other than that you're connecting to to provide login auth) |
| 15:58.14 | bryjen | its just you ;P |
| 15:58.30 | ruskie | well imho it could use a redundancy i.e. login info cached localy... |
| 15:58.36 | ruskie | on every server |
| 15:58.38 | Legoguy | using latest cvs.. anon cvs anyway |
| 15:58.40 | ruskie | optionaly of course |
| 15:58.51 | Legoguy | i was just thinking about that |
| 15:59.06 | JeffM2501 | Legoguy, that's the point of it, it requires a server other then the game server |
| 15:59.22 | JeffM2501 | play on local auth servers, and then deal with them having your password |
| 15:59.46 | JeffM2501 | if global auth dosn't work, then your not geting to the list server, so how did you get to the game in the first place? |
| 15:59.48 | Legoguy | bleh. anyway, my point is, it's not working right now.. |
| 15:59.56 | JeffM2501 | can you get to the list server? |
| 16:00.05 | Legoguy | not for me anyway, yes it can get the list server |
| 16:00.11 | Legoguy | just not logging in |
| 16:00.17 | JeffM2501 | are you behind a caching proxy? |
| 16:00.21 | Legoguy | nope |
| 16:00.24 | JeffM2501 | because the list server does the global auth |
| 16:00.27 | JeffM2501 | when it gets the list |
| 16:00.32 | JeffM2501 | does it say bad token? |
| 16:00.35 | Legoguy | nope |
| 16:00.41 | JeffM2501 | then the problem isn't you |
| 16:00.46 | JeffM2501 | it could be the server your going to |
| 16:00.58 | JeffM2501 | you get your token when you get your list |
| 16:01.20 | JeffM2501 | the game server has to get a token too for it to all work |
| 16:01.20 | Legoguy | it just ... doesn't work... heh. lemme try with a server other than my turbogfx.net ones (which used to work perfectly..) |
| 16:01.39 | JeffM2501 | wait are you on windows? |
| 16:01.43 | JeffM2501 | with current CVS? |
| 16:01.57 | Legoguy | linux |
| 16:02.01 | JeffM2501 | or realy anything with current CVS? |
| 16:02.04 | Legoguy | current anon cvs |
| 16:02.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah don't use that |
| 16:02.11 | Legoguy | :| |
| 16:02.18 | Legoguy | hepcat.org works tho |
| 16:02.18 | JeffM2501 | Tupone is in the middle of changing how the client does HTTP |
| 16:02.21 | JeffM2501 | it coudl break all kinds of things |
| 16:02.22 | Legoguy | not turbogfx.net |
| 16:02.27 | JeffM2501 | use 2.0.2 raw |
| 16:02.28 | Legoguy | oh |
| 16:02.29 | Legoguy | well |
| 16:02.32 | Legoguy | ok then |
| 16:02.37 | JeffM2501 | he's making it all use libcurl |
| 16:03.02 | JeffM2501 | I can't even get a list server on windows anymore |
| 16:03.59 | Tupone | all works, AFAIK, except on windows |
| 16:04.18 | Tupone | all -> linux :) |
| 16:06.42 | bryjen | anon cvs might be broken. _current_ cvs Works for Me(tm) |
| 16:10.42 | JeffM2501 | lucky you |
| 16:24.07 | bryjen | hmm. working at turbogfx.net even... |
| 16:24.56 | bryjen | Ah, after connecting to the CTF instance, the was a message in the console, "Unable to talk to list server" or somesuch |
| 16:25.26 | bryjen | Odd, it had just said global auth succeeded tho |
| 16:30.54 | JeffM2501 | maybe the server can't talk to list server |
| 16:30.58 | JeffM2501 | so it can't get your token |
| 16:31.42 | JeffM2501 | a noble effort |
| 16:32.29 | bryjen | src/game/ServerList.cxx void ServerList::finalization |
| 16:32.39 | Legoguy | turbogfx.net server is 2.0.3.20050323-DEVEL-freebsd4.9 |
| 16:38.10 | bryjen | that appears to be client-side. and i was getting global auth'ed, so maybe a seperate issue or glitch |
| 16:39.22 | Tupone | I got authorizetion everytime I need :/ |
| 16:40.39 | Tupone | bryjen: what version of libcurl? |
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| 16:44.18 | bryjen | i have not been able to make it happen again. curl-config --version = libcurl 7.12.0 |
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| 17:03.02 | *** join/#bzflag bz0705 (~cf70379e@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 17:09.09 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@198.150.76.4) |
| 17:11.08 | Tupone | -debug can give more info on why curl does not succeed |
| 17:39.12 | blast007 | Error while adding easy handle from libcurl; Error: -1 |
| 17:39.12 | blast007 | File transfer terminated with error from libcurl; Error: 6 |
| 17:40.08 | blast007 | get that for both the motd, and trying to access the list of servers |
| 17:40.18 | Tupone | -1 is strange, lemme look |
| 17:44.47 | blast007 | "CURLM_CALL_MULTI_PERFORM (-1) |
| 17:44.47 | blast007 | This is not really an error. It means you should call curl_multi_perform(3) again without doing select() or similar in between." |
| 17:45.15 | Tupone | Yeah, looking at the code, but seems only the output from perform :( lemme see |
| 17:45.57 | blast007 | well, gotta run to class |
| 17:46.00 | blast007 | cya :) |
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| 18:20.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o GvzEvxre] by ChanServ |
| 18:23.23 | *** join/#bzflag CBG (~CannonBal@cpc3-stme1-5-0-cust91.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 18:23.43 | CBG | ~bzfquery 81.103.45.91:5154 |
| 18:23.55 | CBG | :O |
| 18:26.03 | CBG | ~bzfquery 81.103.45.91:5154 |
| 18:26.12 | CBG | Yeah! |
| 18:26.27 | CBG | Is anyone there? |
| 18:26.38 | JeffM2501 | where? |
| 18:26.45 | CBG | Here. ;) |
| 18:26.51 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 18:26.53 | CBG | Can you do me a huge favour? |
| 18:26.58 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 18:27.19 | CBG | Look at the server list on bz for the ip: 81.103.45.91 |
| 18:27.46 | CBG | with a descrition of "CBG's Test Server - Map 1" |
| 18:27.53 | CBG | Please??? /me begs! |
| 18:28.02 | JeffM2501 | dont see it |
| 18:28.15 | CBG | :( |
| 18:28.21 | JeffM2501 | did you do -public ? |
| 18:28.33 | JeffM2501 | and -publicaddr ? |
| 18:28.34 | CBG | Yep. |
| 18:28.38 | CBG | to both... |
| 18:28.41 | CBG | Look at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3639&highlight= |
| 18:28.43 | JeffM2501 | what did you put for your publicaddr |
| 18:29.00 | JeffM2501 | take the port out of the public addr |
| 18:29.10 | CBG | really? |
| 18:29.13 | JeffM2501 | and if it's your IP you don't even need publicaddr |
| 18:29.13 | jpa- | hummmm |
| 18:29.14 | CBG | ok. ill try that |
| 18:29.19 | JeffM2501 | just rermove that part |
| 18:29.25 | CBG | oh. ok :D |
| 18:29.37 | JeffM2501 | if your on the default you don't need to put a port |
| 18:29.42 | JeffM2501 | for anything |
| 18:29.44 | jpa- | ah, true |
| 18:29.47 | CBG | Okies :D |
| 18:30.05 | JeffM2501 | publicaddr is for when you have an address that is not the same as your IP |
| 18:30.08 | JeffM2501 | like a domain name |
| 18:30.11 | CBG | ~bzfquery 81.103.45.91:5154 |
| 18:30.43 | CBG | ~bzfquery 81.103.45.91:5154 |
| 18:30.56 | CBG | Ok. Please can you check again? |
| 18:31.16 | JeffM2501 | you have problems geting to the list server URL? |
| 18:31.25 | CBG | Eh? |
| 18:31.41 | CBG | I have problems getting the server to come up on the srvr list |
| 18:31.42 | JeffM2501 | so just go to the URL |
| 18:31.43 | CBG | ~bzfquery 81.103.45.91:5154 |
| 18:31.45 | JeffM2501 | in a browser |
| 18:31.49 | JeffM2501 | that's all I'm doing |
| 18:31.53 | JeffM2501 | I don't see you listed |
| 18:31.58 | JeffM2501 | http://db.bzflag.org/db/ |
| 18:32.00 | JeffM2501 | hit post entry |
| 18:32.04 | JeffM2501 | it'll show you the list |
| 18:32.06 | CBG | ok. thnx |
| 18:32.49 | CBG | Why wont it work???? :( |
| 18:32.56 | JeffM2501 | do you see the list server contacting you in the terminal output? |
| 18:33.07 | CBG | What would that look like? |
| 18:33.15 | JeffM2501 | player1 connect or sometihng |
| 18:33.19 | JeffM2501 | how many -d's do you have? |
| 18:33.23 | CBG | Yep. I get all that... |
| 18:33.26 | CBG | 2 -d's |
| 18:33.38 | CBG | Ill try 4 |
| 18:33.43 | JeffM2501 | 3 |
| 18:33.46 | JeffM2501 | 4 is too many |
| 18:33.49 | CBG | oh. ok |
| 18:34.10 | JeffM2501 | and make sure you get that connection message BEFORE you try ibot |
| 18:34.15 | JeffM2501 | cus ibot will show the same way |
| 18:34.35 | CBG | woah.i gotta weird thing now |
| 18:34.38 | CBG | ill pastebin it |
| 18:35.51 | CBG | http://pastebin.ca/10579 |
| 18:36.20 | CBG | It seems to be using: "james-smiths-computer.local:5154" |
| 18:36.29 | CBG | which clearly won't work.... :/ |
| 18:36.42 | JeffM2501 | then just put your IP for the public addr |
| 18:36.43 | JeffM2501 | no port |
| 18:36.49 | CBG | Okies |
| 18:38.36 | CBG | http://pastebin.ca/10580 |
| 18:41.39 | *** join/#bzflag Birdie (~birdie@d5153C263.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:42.02 | CBG | Any more ideas? |
| 18:44.11 | Tupone | CBG: listserver should call you back, I don't see |
| 18:44.25 | Tupone | you're inside a natted area? |
| 18:44.32 | CBG | natted??? |
| 18:44.32 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, ibot can get to him |
| 18:44.35 | JeffM2501 | so he's opend |
| 18:44.42 | JeffM2501 | but list sin't geting back to him |
| 18:44.45 | orange | can someone please confirm... if you take off all ID flags from your server will that automatically engage the setting such that flag coloring won't work anymore? |
| 18:44.46 | CBG | And other people ahve been on my server |
| 18:44.47 | Tupone | tcp and udp ? |
| 18:44.55 | CBG | It just wont go on the list |
| 18:44.58 | JeffM2501 | orange, yes that is true |
| 18:45.06 | CBG | Except for me where it has LocalIP with no description |
| 18:45.10 | orange | thanks JeffM2501 |
| 18:45.10 | JeffM2501 | CBG, it won't go on the list cus the list server can't get back to you. |
| 18:45.24 | JeffM2501 | the list won't add unverfied servers |
| 18:45.33 | CBG | How do I verify my server? |
| 18:45.39 | JeffM2501 | you don't |
| 18:45.42 | Tupone | orange: that is true when you enter the game. When flag are taken and release, we cannot do anything |
| 18:45.44 | JeffM2501 | the list server will contact you |
| 18:45.48 | JeffM2501 | it'd not contacting you |
| 18:46.05 | JeffM2501 | do you have a firewall or anything? |
| 18:46.11 | orange | Tupone: I think I understand... people can still watch (even automatically) where flags are dropped |
| 18:46.18 | JeffM2501 | that may log connections |
| 18:46.20 | orange | but when the flags disappear and respawn, you won't know what they are, right? |
| 18:46.20 | jpa- | JeffM2501: if he is natted, wouldn't not having -publicaddr make it impossible for bzfs to decide outside ip to use? |
| 18:46.39 | CBG | I ahve opened port 5154 |
| 18:46.39 | CBG | BUT YES I AHVE A FIREWALL |
| 18:46.39 | CBG | (oops. sorry for caps) |
| 18:46.39 | Tupone | orange: that is exactly what I meant |
| 18:46.40 | JeffM2501 | jpa-, he added publicaddr and it still didn't work |
| 18:46.53 | JeffM2501 | CBG, does the firewall show anythiung being blocked trying to come in |
| 18:46.53 | orange | cool, that's still better than nothing... much better in fact |
| 18:46.55 | CBG | I had -publicaddr: IP:port |
| 18:46.55 | CBG | originally... |
| 18:47.12 | CBG | JeffM: No idea. I ahve no idea how the firewall works/whatever. |
| 18:47.17 | JeffM2501 | CBG, and did you open up the frewall for anyone |
| 18:47.24 | CBG | But surely, if other people can play on the server... |
| 18:47.35 | JeffM2501 | unless it's open just for them |
| 18:47.35 | CBG | I have opene port 5154 and menotume was playing there once |
| 18:47.39 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:47.46 | JeffM2501 | then list server should be able to get to you |
| 18:47.49 | CBG | when he typed in the IP... |
| 18:47.50 | JeffM2501 | if it has the right info |
| 18:48.04 | jpa- | CBG: do you have software firewall, or a hardware one? |
| 18:48.05 | JeffM2501 | it's just not contacting you back |
| 18:48.22 | CBG | jpa: software I guess. |
| 18:48.30 | *** join/#bzflag BZFlag (~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 18:48.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o BZFlag] by ChanServ |
| 18:49.05 | jpa- | then, when it is contacting, does there popup question asking whether to allow? |
| 18:49.16 | jpa- | it will go to list server through http |
| 18:49.24 | CBG | :O the GAME just joined the chsnn |
| 18:49.24 | CBG | *channel devoted to it |
| 18:49.26 | ToughShooter | CBG: Open "SystemPreferences.app", change to "sharing" pane |
| 18:49.39 | CBG | jpa: no pop-up... |
| 18:49.45 | ToughShooter | Now please say that Firewall is deactivated |
| 18:49.47 | CBG | ToughShooter: ok. ill tyr |
| 18:50.43 | CBG | "Firewall Off" |
| 18:51.00 | CBG | :D |
| 18:51.45 | ToughShooter | I assume there is an error in config file then |
| 18:51.55 | CBG | Ok. I have just posted ALL the stuff Terminal prints out when i run bzfs, go to http://pastebin.ca/10581 |
| 18:52.17 | CBG | I dont use one. |
| 18:52.28 | *** join/#bzflag test12345 (~test@S0106000d889852df.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 18:52.35 | CBG | I just use this to run bzfs: |
| 18:52.59 | ToughShooter | ~bzfquery 81.103.45.91:5154 |
| 18:53.08 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.13 | CBG | See? It works... |
| 18:53.21 | CBG | But its not on the list :/ |
| 18:53.48 | ToughShooter | Obviously it is not working then |
| 18:53.53 | CBG | There _should_ be qoutmarks around the -public Description, yeah? |
| 18:54.52 | ToughShooter | yes |
| 18:58.53 | Tupone | CBG: open a browser, while bzfs is active and do recall the url http://my.BZFlag.org//db/?action=ADD&nameport=81.103.45.91&version=BZFS0026&gameinfo=0029000400000000000000000000c800c800c800c800c800c800c8&build=2.0.2.20050329-STABLE-darwin7.8.0-SDL&checktokens=&groups=EVERYONE%0D%0AVERIFIED%0D%0A&title=CBG%27s+Test+Server+%2D+Map+1 |
| 18:59.23 | CBG | it says: ERROR: Requesting address is 62.252.32.13 while server is at 81.103.45.91 |
| 18:59.38 | Tupone | hehe you have a proxy |
| 18:59.44 | Tupone | I suppose |
| 18:59.50 | CBG | :( that sounds bad |
| 19:00.04 | Tupone | dunno, it is the same machine? |
| 19:00.09 | CBG | Yep |
| 19:00.16 | Tupone | what are this 2 address? |
| 19:00.54 | CBG | i dunno |
| 19:01.03 | CBG | I search googe for "whats my IP address" |
| 19:01.06 | Tupone | one should be your machine |
| 19:01.16 | CBG | and they all give either 81.103.45.91 |
| 19:01.26 | CBG | or 62.252.32.13 |
| 19:01.41 | CBG | but mostly its 81.103.45.91 so I thought that was thr right one |
| 19:02.10 | Chestal | CBG: try port 81 instead of 80 |
| 19:02.10 | CBG | Ill try the other one... |
| 19:02.15 | bryjen | -publiclist http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 19:02.21 | CBG | oh.ok |
| 19:02.25 | bryjen | add that to you bzfs command line |
| 19:02.40 | Tupone | hehe I was trying to get that command :) |
| 19:02.46 | CBG | Ok. :) |
| 19:04.06 | CBG | Did that |
| 19:04.09 | CBG | then I went to http://my.bzflag.org:81/db/?action=ADD&nameport=81.103.45.91&version=BZFS0026&gameinfo=0029000400000000000000000000c800c800c800c800c800c800c8&build=2.0.2.20050329-STABLE-darwin7.8.0-SDL&checktokens=&groups=EVERYONE%0D%0AVERIFIED%0D%0A&title=CBG%27s+Test+Server+%2D+Map+1 |
| 19:04.21 | CBG | and it says: MSG: updating 81.103.45.91 |
| 19:04.22 | CBG | ADD 81.103.45.91 |
| 19:04.33 | Tupone | you have to do that command from bzfs |
| 19:04.43 | Tupone | ./bzfs -publiclist http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 19:04.44 | CBG | I did... |
| 19:04.48 | CBG | i did.... |
| 19:05.09 | Tupone | and .. |
| 19:05.20 | CBG | it works!!! |
| 19:05.29 | CBG | Check out the server list!! :D Thanks Guys!!!! |
| 19:05.42 | *** join/#bzflag bz0622 (~5253b734@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:05.52 | CBG | Except now it wont let me join... :/ |
| 19:11.30 | _Manu_ | CBG, if your server is running in your localhost.. don't use the listserver.. just write: localhost for the nameserver |
| 19:11.45 | _Manu_ | mean in your local box.. |
| 19:12.16 | Tupone | or add a line to /etc/hosts |
| 19:18.09 | _Manu_ | he is playing.. :) he wrote by hand his local ip |
| 19:18.40 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery 81.103.45.91 |
| 19:19.26 | CBG | Its all sorted now |
| 19:19.38 | CBG | thanks loads to every on who helped |
| 19:19.40 | CBG | :D |
| 19:20.14 | CBG | I found my local and my normal IP in the server list - only the normal had the descrition, the local was just the ip on its own |
| 19:20.40 | CBG | and I can only connect to the local one, but it goes to the same place do its ok :D |
| 19:21.00 | _Manu_ | your 81.103.... is external.. |
| 19:21.09 | CBG | yeah... tahst waht i meant |
| 19:21.15 | CBG | *thats what... :/ |
| 19:21.51 | jpa- | local shows only to yourself |
| 19:21.56 | jpa- | it is the lan-search |
| 19:22.16 | CBG | now all I gotta do is wait till I finish my exams: get an easy, high-pay job to pay for a much better connection and work out how to set admins and kick, ban, etc... |
| 19:22.23 | CBG | then I;m done. :D |
| 19:22.53 | CBG | jpa- If I try to join to the external, it wont connect. I have to join the local, but it works the same. so Its ok. :D |
| 19:23.15 | Grumbler | ....there is no such thing as an easy high paying job for anybody in tech.......now if you played football |
| 19:23.43 | jpa- | football isn't easy for most techs :P |
| 19:23.47 | CBG | Grumbler, Im 5 foot tall and way 9stone. None of which is muscle. |
| 19:23.54 | CBG | Football is not easy. :D |
| 19:24.04 | CBG | But who says im a tech? |
| 19:24.17 | CBG | I didnt kno what terminal was untill a few weeks ago. :D rofl |
| 19:24.22 | jpa- | you could be a good football :) |
| 19:24.28 | CBG | True. |
| 19:24.34 | CBG | But I doubt that pays well... |
| 19:24.34 | _Manu_ | and now you know it? ;) |
| 19:24.52 | CBG | Manu: I know enough to run bzfs and bzflag with bots... :D |
| 19:26.25 | CBG | Can anyone here help me Alias my IP? |
| 19:27.11 | CBG | And on a differnt topic, can I put all the command line things like -public"desc" and -c etc in the map file at all? |
| 19:27.31 | CBG | Or do they ahve to go in a config file? If so, can anyone help me do that? |
| 19:30.06 | *** join/#bzflag sgk284_ (~sgk284@66.212.10.30) |
| 19:30.11 | sgk284_ | anyone devs around? |
| 19:30.18 | sgk284_ | s/anyone/any |
| 19:30.19 | Tupone | none |
| 19:30.22 | sgk284_ | lol |
| 19:30.28 | CBG | Ok. Forget the conf file thing... But can anyone help me alias my IP (Max OS 10.3.8) |
| 19:30.31 | sgk284_ | have you tried compiling bzflag with gcc 4.0 yet? |
| 19:30.40 | Tupone | nope, not yet |
| 19:31.09 | Tupone | mtune ? |
| 19:31.11 | jpa- | sgk284_ <33<33<3 |
| 19:31.50 | Grumbler | ~dict stone |
| 19:32.04 | Grumbler | ~more |
| 19:32.05 | ibot | [more] Displays the contents of the named files, one screenful at a time. Syntax: more (file1) (file2) ...(fileN). Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: more papers/history-final displays the file papers/history-final. |
| 19:32.09 | sgk284_ | the Fedora guys are trying to package bzflag to get it ready for fedora core 4 but when you compile with gcc 4.0 bzflag acts really funky |
| 19:32.21 | Grumbler | how much does a stone weigh? |
| 19:32.22 | sgk284_ | i.e. noone can see your shots |
| 19:32.47 | Tupone | great, a new bzflag mode |
| 19:32.54 | sgk284_ | lol |
| 19:32.54 | orange | grumbler, a stone is 14 pounds |
| 19:32.58 | sgk284_ | and you cant get hit by them either |
| 19:33.21 | sgk284_ | gcc throws out a few warnings, i have yet to try it myself, this is all 3rd party information |
| 19:33.29 | sgk284_ | i was just wondering if people are aware of this |
| 19:33.34 | orange | google on: 1 stone in pounds |
| 19:33.38 | Tupone | I was not |
| 19:33.39 | orange | google is good |
| 19:33.52 | sgk284_ | okay |
| 19:34.53 | CBG | Grumbler: http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/stones-to-grams.htm |
| 19:35.16 | CBG | 9 Stone = 57.1526 Kg |
| 19:35.21 | Grumbler | ah, thanks for the wealth of info....always wondered |
| 19:35.33 | orange | or ask google: 9 stone in kg |
| 19:35.34 | CBG | Quiet heavy/FAT for a short a** like me. |
| 19:35.34 | orange | :-) |
| 19:35.43 | Grumbler | Kg is even more obscure to me |
| 19:35.48 | CBG | :D rofl |
| 19:36.03 | CBG | Then what do you weigh with? |
| 19:36.09 | Grumbler | lbs |
| 19:36.21 | CBG | Thats pounds.. 14 in a stone .. :D |
| 19:36.47 | CBG | so 9 stone = 126lbs :D |
| 19:36.58 | Grumbler | gotta wonder what the history is on that weight measurement |
| 19:37.56 | orange | right, because I knocked it off, but you couldn't see me do it |
| 19:38.29 | *** join/#bzflag fabianne (~mee@p54A7606B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:38.37 | fabianne | wheres my hunk!? |
| 19:38.46 | Tupone | hi fabianne |
| 19:38.54 | fabianne | TONI TUPONI!!! |
| 19:38.57 | Tupone | lol |
| 19:38.58 | jpa- | fabianne: i'm here, you need no brlcad :) |
| 19:39.09 | fabianne | jpa! |
| 19:39.20 | fabianne | nonono i need brlcad |
| 19:39.21 | Tupone | neither learner ... forget him |
| 19:39.25 | fabianne | why!? |
| 19:39.27 | fabianne | :( |
| 19:39.31 | Tupone | :) |
| 19:39.46 | fabianne | hmrrrr ull see one day ill be mrs happy brlcad |
| 19:39.48 | fabianne | :D |
| 19:39.48 | Grumbler | ok, i am here.....someone was asking for a hunk? |
| 19:39.59 | fabianne | Grumbler: you are familiar... |
| 19:40.04 | fabianne | hurd? |
| 19:40.16 | fabianne | maybe not.. |
| 19:40.18 | Grumbler | river? |
| 19:40.37 | fabianne | so where is my hunki?! |
| 19:40.44 | jpa- | fabianne: i ate him |
| 19:40.51 | fabianne | hm.. |
| 19:40.56 | Grumbler | ~fishslap jpa- for eating brlcad |
| 19:40.59 | ibot | ACTION slaps jpa- up side the head with a wet fish for eating brlcad |
| 19:41.31 | jpa- | ah, no, i didn't ate brlcad |
| 19:41.36 | jpa- | it was thumper i ate |
| 19:42.14 | fabianne | i wont click that... |
| 19:42.24 | sgk284_ | hey jpa <3<3<3 |
| 19:42.28 | CBG | ;D |
| 19:42.29 | jpa- | dangerous jpe files |
| 19:42.36 | fabianne | hahaha |
| 19:42.41 | jpa- | sgk284_: my hunk <33<3 |
| 19:42.46 | sgk284_ | lol |
| 19:42.48 | sgk284_ | ;) |
| 19:42.50 | fabianne | hahaha |
| 19:42.54 | fabianne | i still want brlcad |
| 19:43.04 | CBG | I want you babe! |
| 19:43.16 | fabianne | the pig? |
| 19:43.49 | jpa- | fabianne: yes, you just have to try to be happy with brlcad, sgk284_ is mine! |
| 19:44.04 | CBG | I loves that pig! |
| 19:44.13 | CBG | Curves in all the right places! |
| 19:44.36 | fabianne | http://media.ebaumsworld.com/nevercoppedafeel.swf |
| 19:44.56 | Grumbler | ..oh and like that is safe to click |
| 19:45.26 | jpa- | i accept only .jpa files from now on :) |
| 19:45.48 | JeffM2501 | it's just a single white female file |
| 19:47.02 | jpa- | JeffM2501: "just"?!? |
| 19:47.12 | JeffM2501 | ohh sorry |
| 19:47.19 | JeffM2501 | forgot you have womens issues |
| 19:47.36 | jpa- | arf, not again |
| 19:47.41 | CBG | ROFL!! |
| 19:47.48 | fabianne | lol |
| 19:47.50 | CBG | That M J movie is hilarious!! |
| 19:48.35 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, you stirring up the group again......do we need to get the tazer |
| 19:48.47 | JeffM2501 | naw |
| 19:49.01 | JeffM2501 | they come prestired man |
| 19:49.21 | Grumbler | like yogurt |
| 19:49.51 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 19:49.55 | JeffM2501 | like yogurt |
| 19:50.53 | jpa- | i do too |
| 19:51.03 | jpa- | JeffM2501: that makes you similar to me |
| 19:51.13 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 19:51.42 | jpa- | he is so easily confused :P |
| 19:52.05 | JeffM2501 | most people are when jibberish is presented at them |
| 19:52.48 | Grumbler | ~jibberish |
| 19:52.54 | jpa- | ~dict jibberish |
| 19:53.17 | Grumbler | ~botsnack |
| 19:53.17 | ibot | :), Grumbler |
| 19:53.29 | JeffM2501 | guu dict gibberish |
| 19:53.32 | guu | JeffM2501: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: gibberish n : unintelligible talking [syn: {gibber}]; gcide: Gibberish \Gib"ber*ish\, a. Unmeaning; as, gibberish language. [1913 Webster]; gcide: gibberish \gib"ber*ish\ (j[i^]b"b[~e]r*[i^]sh or g[i^]b"b[~e]r*[i^]sh), n. [From {Gibber}, v. i.] 1. Rapid and inarticulate talk; unintelligible language; unmeaning words. [1913 Webster] He, like (4 more messages) |
| 19:53.38 | jpa- | ibot: jibberish is prestired yogurt |
| 19:53.39 | ibot | okay, jpa- |
| 19:53.43 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 19:54.30 | jpa- | gnight people |
| 19:54.41 | fabianne | nite jpg |
| 19:54.45 | fabianne | ... |
| 19:54.48 | CBG | bye |
| 19:55.16 | jpa- | fabianne: it is jpa :) |
| 19:55.27 | fabianne | no its jpa- |
| 19:55.31 | fabianne | lol* |
| 19:55.33 | jpa- | it is jpa |
| 19:55.36 | fabianne | - |
| 19:55.37 | JeffM2501 | can't even get your own name right? |
| 19:55.44 | JeffM2501 | sad man, really sad |
| 19:55.50 | fabianne | well |
| 19:55.50 | jpa- | argh |
| 19:55.57 | fabianne | maybe his - stick is down? |
| 19:56.00 | fabianne | who knows.. |
| 19:56.03 | jpa- | ~lart JeffM2501 |
| 19:56.09 | jpa- | ~lart fabianne |
| 19:56.14 | fabianne | hey.. |
| 19:56.22 | JeffM2501 | that's not very nice man |
| 19:56.28 | JeffM2501 | your the one with the name problem |
| 19:56.32 | fabianne | lowers his chances to have me |
| 19:56.34 | fabianne | lol* |
| 19:56.39 | Grumbler | night jpa- ...dont freeze in your sleep |
| 19:56.47 | jpa- | fabianne: i don't need you, i have sgk284_ |
| 19:56.52 | fabianne | lol* |
| 19:56.58 | fabianne | i waaaaaaaaaaaaant hottie brlcad |
| 19:57.01 | jpa- | Grumbler: it is warm here |
| 19:57.01 | JeffM2501 | jpa-, but have you SEEn her? |
| 19:57.04 | JeffM2501 | she has amazing hair |
| 19:57.06 | fabianne | lol* |
| 19:57.15 | Tupone | she is amazing |
| 19:57.32 | fabianne | yeah she is |
| 19:57.38 | jpa- | so is sgk284_ |
| 19:57.39 | JeffM2501 | posibly just as amazing as Orchid |
| 19:57.45 | Grumbler | amazing, like something out of ripleys believe it or not |
| 19:57.52 | jpa- | and he has "_" |
| 19:57.56 | Tupone | eek I miss her :( |
| 19:58.11 | JeffM2501 | where has shee been? |
| 19:58.24 | Tupone | ~seen orchid |
| 19:58.27 | ibot | orchid <~aec@orchid.user> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 22d 22h 5m 44s ago, saying: '~Mr_Molez++ '. |
| 19:58.55 | Grumbler | her brother is probably running her irc connection |
| 19:59.52 | Grumbler | jpa-, go to sleep.....you need it |
| 20:00.21 | jpa- | do i? |
| 20:00.34 | jpa- | actually, now i'm not feeling so tired anymore |
| 20:00.45 | jpa- | i might stay up for few more hours |
| 20:00.55 | Grumbler | whats you with your mirror twin btw |
| 20:01.57 | jpa- | well.. when the day comes and JeffM2501 kicks me, i expect him to forget it so that i can monitor people crying when i'm not here anymore |
| 20:02.25 | JeffM2501 | a kick would not remove you |
| 20:02.27 | JeffM2501 | a ban would |
| 20:02.32 | JeffM2501 | and get both of em |
| 20:03.12 | jpa- | is there some evil autokick-on-ban thingie? |
| 20:03.30 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 20:03.34 | JeffM2501 | akick rocks |
| 20:03.42 | Grumbler | cant imagine JeffM2501 kick/banning jpa- apj ....but then again, ya never know. |
| 20:03.53 | jpa- | i could very well :S |
| 20:03.58 | JeffM2501 | he's come close |
| 20:04.03 | JeffM2501 | he made orchid cry |
| 20:04.09 | JeffM2501 | that's a banable aoffence |
| 20:04.12 | Grumbler | ban him now. |
| 20:04.40 | JeffM2501 | ehhh, he's rather harmless and inefectual |
| 20:04.50 | fabianne | nite boyzzzz |
| 20:04.51 | *** part/#bzflag fabianne (~mee@p54A7606B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:04.55 | Grumbler | ....and his webpages are nicely done |
| 20:05.08 | jpa- | uh? |
| 20:05.16 | jpa- | i have webpages? |
| 20:05.25 | Grumbler | ...probably has been more useful then myself of late |
| 20:05.52 | jpa- | ah, the bzw tutorial ones :) |
| 20:06.31 | jpa- | for a moment i was scared that Grumbler had hunted down some of my homepages i made years ago :I |
| 20:06.56 | ruskie | lol |
| 20:13.20 | Grumbler | hmm |
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| 20:33.41 | CBG | What sort of impact will Observers have on a servers lag? |
| 20:37.23 | JeffM2501 | they will take up bandwith |
| 20:37.33 | JeffM2501 | so if they make your pipe get saturated |
| 20:37.38 | JeffM2501 | then everyone will lag |
| 20:37.48 | JeffM2501 | basicly they count the same as a player |
| 20:37.50 | JeffM2501 | ish |
| 20:38.06 | JeffM2501 | they don't send, so they are a little better then a player |
| 20:38.13 | JeffM2501 | but they still get everyone else's data |
| 20:38.21 | JeffM2501 | how fast is your connection? |
| 20:38.25 | JeffM2501 | upload |
| 20:38.29 | CBG | 128 |
| 20:38.31 | CBG | ish... |
| 20:38.34 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 20:38.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:38.46 | JeffM2501 | you may get 4 players |
| 20:38.48 | CBG | But I get bad lag with more than one player. |
| 20:38.48 | JeffM2501 | on a good day |
| 20:38.52 | JeffM2501 | yeah you would |
| 20:38.58 | JeffM2501 | you have a very narrow pipe |
| 20:39.28 | CBG | Thats why I need to get an easy, high-paying job after my exams, so I can chip in for a better line. |
| 20:39.57 | JeffM2501 | umm isn't that what everyone wants? |
| 20:40.11 | CBG | I guess. :D |
| 20:40.38 | CBG | Someone suggested football, which is inpractical: Im not exactly fit... more fAt... |
| 20:40.52 | CBG | We decided on me being a football. |
| 20:41.05 | CBG | Im best suited to that, it would seem. :) |
| 20:41.19 | CBG | I just need to go apply and find out how much I can get/match. |
| 20:41.41 | JeffM2501 | you get out what you put in |
| 20:41.49 | CBG | :D lol |
| 20:42.15 | CBG | Ide be putting my whole body in, do i get a hot babe in return? |
| 20:42.32 | JeffM2501 | are you any good? |
| 20:42.48 | CBG | At being a football? |
| 20:42.52 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:42.54 | CBG | Not half bad. |
| 20:43.03 | CBG | Im bouncy, but not soft... |
| 20:43.09 | CBG | Perfectly rounded. |
| 20:43.27 | CBG | Im happy to have some kind of Tick tatooed on my forehead. |
| 20:43.30 | JeffM2501 | and what experience do you ahve? |
| 20:44.02 | CBG | Little, but I'm willing to learn. |
| 20:44.24 | CBG | I'm always on-time and dress smartly. |
| 20:44.32 | JeffM2501 | and why would they want to hire you whent here are tons of others out there with more experience? |
| 20:44.34 | CBG | I am predicted mostly A's for GCSEs |
| 20:44.51 | CBG | Someday all the experienced balls will die. |
| 20:44.59 | CBG | They have to keep training young'uns |
| 20:45.24 | JeffM2501 | they have machiens that do that |
| 20:45.30 | CBG | rofl |
| 20:46.21 | Grumbler | would you pass a steriod test? |
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| 20:46.44 | CBG | Sure would! |
| 20:47.33 | JeffM2501 | so you have no work experience at all now? |
| 20:48.26 | JeffM2501 | no college for you? |
| 20:49.08 | CBG | I want to have the job for the 10 weeks or so before collage/sixth form |
| 20:49.51 | CBG | Actually, tha lag on my server is not so bad |
| 20:49.57 | CBG | its the jitter thats bad |
| 20:50.09 | JeffM2501 | that probably means your being flooed out |
| 20:50.14 | JeffM2501 | makes the lag variable |
| 20:50.17 | CBG | 2 players, 1 obs: around 350ms each +- 60 each... |
| 20:50.25 | CBG | flooed out ?? |
| 20:50.25 | JeffM2501 | 350 |
| 20:50.29 | JeffM2501 | DAMN |
| 20:50.32 | JeffM2501 | that's horible |
| 20:50.36 | CBG | I meant 250 |
| 20:50.40 | JeffM2501 | still |
| 20:50.41 | CBG | which is bareable |
| 20:50.43 | JeffM2501 | that's dialup speed |
| 20:50.47 | JeffM2501 | should be under 100 |
| 20:50.55 | CBG | most servers dont untill over 300 |
| 20:50.59 | CBG | I know i know |
| 20:51.08 | CBG | but I am connected wirelessly... |
| 20:51.10 | JeffM2501 | sure but that dosn't mean that's where you hang out at |
| 20:51.13 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 20:51.29 | CBG | and I only hvae 2/4 bars on the airport card |
| 20:51.40 | JeffM2501 | amazing |
| 20:52.26 | CBG | wha?? |
| 20:52.31 | JeffM2501 | tiger |
| 20:52.33 | JeffM2501 | you know |
| 20:52.38 | JeffM2501 | OSX 10.4 |
| 20:52.40 | CBG | oh. |
| 20:52.45 | CBG | why go to the valleys? |
| 20:52.47 | JeffM2501 | it does come out today |
| 20:52.52 | JeffM2501 | cus thats where they have it |
| 20:52.58 | JeffM2501 | at a decent price |
| 20:53.03 | CBG | oh. right. |
| 20:53.12 | CBG | or, apple.com/store... |
| 20:53.19 | JeffM2501 | and pay 129 |
| 20:53.21 | JeffM2501 | I think not |
| 20:53.32 | JeffM2501 | 99 where I'll go |
| 20:53.32 | CBG | :D |
| 20:53.39 | CBG | jigsaw24.com |
| 20:53.45 | CBG | or is it .co.uk ? |
| 20:53.48 | CBG | :? |
| 20:53.51 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 20:54.19 | CBG | cheap apple reseller |
| 20:54.32 | JeffM2501 | but how would that get it to me NOW? |
| 20:54.43 | JeffM2501 | shiping costs money |
| 20:54.46 | CBG | Through a teleporter. |
| 20:54.50 | JeffM2501 | and I'm not on your little island |
| 20:55.01 | CBG | Little, but mighty. |
| 20:55.09 | JeffM2501 | if you say so |
| 20:55.15 | CBG | And as much as I hate Blair, he can speak english. |
| 20:55.32 | JeffM2501 | I'd hope so |
| 20:56.00 | CBG | Unlike some other important guy in the world... |
| 20:56.06 | CBG | Whats his name? |
| 20:56.11 | CBG | Gerry Tree? |
| 20:56.14 | JeffM2501 | Arnold Swartenager! |
| 20:56.19 | CBG | Graham Shrub? |
| 20:56.51 | CBG | George something.... |
| 20:56.52 | JeffM2501 | still dosnt' change the fact that this state alone has more financial power then your nation ;) |
| 20:56.55 | JeffM2501 | but that's a tangent |
| 20:56.59 | JeffM2501 | he'll be gone soon |
| 20:57.04 | JeffM2501 | then the cullings can begin |
| 20:57.13 | CBG | Your state alone is bigger than the whole UK |
| 20:57.20 | JeffM2501 | that we are |
| 20:57.41 | JeffM2501 | texas dosn't like that we do more $$ then they do |
| 20:57.43 | CBG | But I reckon the UK has more power/area (or citizens) than the USA |
| 20:57.46 | JeffM2501 | but then they have allways been wierd |
| 20:57.53 | CBG | What state you in anyway? |
| 20:57.54 | JeffM2501 | power? |
| 20:57.58 | JeffM2501 | california |
| 20:58.22 | CBG | POWER!!! |
| 20:58.27 | CBG | Muahahaha! |
| 20:59.23 | JeffM2501 | where in the UK are you? |
| 20:59.31 | CBG | Cardiff, Wales. |
| 20:59.37 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 20:59.59 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to go to wales and scotland one day |
| 21:00.16 | CBG | Come to wales first. It's better. ;) |
| 21:00.35 | JeffM2501 | I know a number of people in scotland |
| 21:01.13 | JeffM2501 | tho I understand you all have your own little segementary issues out there ( britan, scotland, wales, ireland ) |
| 21:01.33 | CBG | I would rather be Welsh, than British. |
| 21:01.43 | CBG | I would rather be British than English. |
| 21:01.56 | CBG | Some idiots seem to think The UK == England... |
| 21:01.58 | JeffM2501 | if you say so |
| 21:02.03 | CBG | I do. |
| 21:02.10 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:02.14 | CBG | I would rather be Scottish than English. |
| 21:02.19 | JeffM2501 | ohh I know UK != england |
| 21:02.26 | CBG | ;) |
| 21:02.51 | JeffM2501 | tho don't hear much about your king |
| 21:02.59 | CBG | Rofl. |
| 21:03.00 | JeffM2501 | not so much a kindom anymore is it? |
| 21:03.16 | CBG | Its a Queendom right now |
| 21:03.22 | JeffM2501 | maybe change the name to United Atlantic Islands |
| 21:03.27 | JeffM2501 | and invite iceland |
| 21:03.27 | CBG | but as soon as the silly cow pops her clogs, we'll be back |
| 21:03.31 | CBG | ROFL!!! |
| 21:03.50 | CBG | On a different note: is there a list of ALL flags, anywhere? |
| 21:03.57 | JeffM2501 | man bzfs |
| 21:04.02 | CBG | ok. cheers |
| 21:04.17 | JeffM2501 | or bzfs --help probably has it too |
| 21:04.41 | CBG | okie |
| 21:08.23 | CBG | Got it. Thanks |
| 21:11.21 | CBG | If I use +f to define all the flags I want, Specifically, (like +f GM{1}) |
| 21:11.33 | CBG | And I dont define random or anything, do i need to use -f |
| 21:11.40 | CBG | to define those I dont want? |
| 21:11.44 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:11.48 | JeffM2501 | if you just do +f |
| 21:11.49 | CBG | :D cool |
| 21:11.52 | JeffM2501 | then that's the flags you'll get |
| 21:11.56 | JeffM2501 | default is no flags |
| 21:12.01 | CBG | thought so. thanks |
| 21:12.03 | JeffM2501 | so it only does what you tell it to |
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| 21:14.34 | CBG | If this works: |
| 21:14.41 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.45 | CBG | why wont this: |
| 21:14.50 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.22 | JeffM2501 | is that where the config is? |
| 21:15.29 | CBG | yep |
| 21:15.39 | JeffM2501 | and the error it givs is? |
| 21:16.06 | CBG | -bash: ./bzgoc.txt: Permission denied |
| 21:16.23 | CBG | Thats the name of the file that /Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bzfs -conf "/Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/conf.conf" is in |
| 21:16.40 | CBG | I have a file called bzgoc.txt which contains /Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bzfs -conf "/Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/conf.conf" |
| 21:16.41 | JeffM2501 | do you have a file called bzgoc.txt ? |
| 21:16.44 | CBG | Yep. |
| 21:17.04 | CBG | This is exactly the same setup as I had before where I defined all the commands singally |
| 21:17.04 | JeffM2501 | why would you have that in a text file? |
| 21:17.13 | JeffM2501 | it can't open or find that file |
| 21:17.17 | JeffM2501 | thats what the message is saying |
| 21:17.24 | CBG | The bzgoc.txt file is in my user account |
| 21:17.35 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:17.41 | CBG | the conf file is in applicatiosnm/bzflag/contentc/macos/.... |
| 21:17.45 | JeffM2501 | still dosn't change the fact that bz can't find it or open it |
| 21:17.59 | CBG | I just did : ls |
| 21:18.06 | CBG | it IS there :( |
| 21:18.44 | Tupone | you can sh bzgoc.txt |
| 21:18.50 | CBG | sh? |
| 21:18.57 | Tupone | or chmod a+x bzgoc.txt and then run |
| 21:19.04 | CBG | :S |
| 21:19.16 | CBG | Eh? lol |
| 21:19.29 | CBG | a+x? |
| 21:19.37 | Tupone | you don't like? |
| 21:19.45 | CBG | I dont understand |
| 21:20.05 | Tupone | if you want to execute a file you have to raise the execution permissoin |
| 21:20.10 | Tupone | a -> all |
| 21:20.14 | Tupone | x -> execute |
| 21:20.15 | bryjen | CHange MODe (permissions), give All eXecute |
| 21:20.19 | CBG | oh. ok. ill try |
| 21:21.01 | CBG | I already have full (Read and write_ permissions on the file |
| 21:21.10 | Tupone | read and write are not full |
| 21:21.13 | bryjen | *nix stuff, silly mac person ;) |
| 21:21.15 | Tupone | you miss x |
| 21:21.21 | CBG | and I never had to do that on the old file that ran bzfs -world... -j... -. -.nfjdnkd |
| 21:21.31 | CBG | They are the fullest I can do. |
| 21:21.45 | CBG | and They are the same as the other file I used to use which worked fine |
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| 21:22.03 | Tupone | well, if you say so ... ok |
| 21:22.03 | JeffM2501 | where is that file refreneced in bz? |
| 21:22.06 | JeffM2501 | in the config? |
| 21:22.18 | CBG | what file? |
| 21:22.22 | JeffM2501 | the .txt one |
| 21:22.26 | JeffM2501 | that bz says it can't open |
| 21:22.35 | JeffM2501 | how is it geting that filename/path |
| 21:22.37 | CBG | Im not openeing it in bz. |
| 21:22.41 | CBG | Let me explain |
| 21:22.47 | JeffM2501 | what gives you the error then? |
| 21:22.56 | CBG | I ahve a plain .txt file: bzgoc.txt |
| 21:23.00 | Tupone | it is bash that is giving the error :) |
| 21:23.05 | CBG | This file contains: /Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bzfs -conf "/Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/conf.conf" |
| 21:23.07 | Tupone | not executable file |
| 21:23.11 | bryjen | shell script |
| 21:23.12 | JeffM2501 | ohh your trying to make a script |
| 21:23.14 | JeffM2501 | got it |
| 21:23.15 | Tupone | -> permission denied |
| 21:23.16 | CBG | When I run ./bzgoc.txt in Terminal |
| 21:23.17 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah perms man |
| 21:23.20 | CBG | It should run /Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bzfs -conf "/Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/conf.conf" |
| 21:23.30 | JeffM2501 | do sh ./bzgoc.txt |
| 21:23.35 | CBG | ok |
| 21:23.36 | JeffM2501 | or make the file executable |
| 21:23.42 | JeffM2501 | with the perms that they showed you |
| 21:23.55 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't know what to run a text file with by default |
| 21:23.58 | CBG | Wow. Thanks guys. |
| 21:24.01 | JeffM2501 | cus text files don't "run" |
| 21:24.07 | CBG | It sorked before |
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| 21:24.10 | CBG | *worked |
| 21:24.15 | Tupone | I doubt |
| 21:24.15 | CBG | with the old .txt file |
| 21:24.18 | CBG | It did |
| 21:24.21 | JeffM2501 | not if you didn't have the perms on that file |
| 21:24.22 | CBG | I used it loads of time. |
| 21:24.28 | JeffM2501 | then you set that file to executable somehow |
| 21:24.30 | Tupone | I doubt that it does not have +x and run |
| 21:24.30 | CBG | I id not have to change any perms on it |
| 21:24.33 | JeffM2501 | or your mac magicaly did it |
| 21:24.39 | JeffM2501 | and that would be scary indeed |
| 21:24.41 | CBG | I dont know how to set higher than "Read and Write" |
| 21:24.54 | CBG | Then I guess I should be scared. |
| 21:24.55 | Tupone | is not higher, is different |
| 21:25.18 | CBG | same difference :P |
| 21:25.21 | Tupone | you could open a terminal and write "chmod a+x bzgoc.txt |
| 21:25.58 | CBG | really? :D rofl |
| 21:25.58 | Tupone | well, pointing to the correct directory and file |
| 21:26.20 | CBG | hehe. Thanks |
| 21:26.31 | CBG | Im still incredibly new to Terminal :D |
| 21:26.38 | CBG | Now, my next problem: |
| 21:26.57 | Tupone | terminal were born before raster graphic |
| 21:27.00 | CBG | I run this: /Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bzfs -conf "/Applications/BZFlag/BZFlag-2.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/conf.conf" |
| 21:27.15 | CBG | and it just gives me "Help" as if I did bzfs -help |
| 21:27.34 | Pimpinella | remove the quotes |
| 21:27.43 | CBG | Ok :) cheres |
| 21:27.54 | CBG | *cheers pimpi |
| 21:27.58 | Pimpinella | np |
| 21:28.23 | CBG | Eck. No difference |
| 21:28.47 | Tupone | I guess -help is inside your conf.conf |
| 21:28.57 | CBG | Lemme see |
| 21:29.26 | Pimpinella | read up then, above the help text is a hite whats wrong in yout conf |
| 21:29.42 | Pimpinella | s/hite/hint |
| 21:29.55 | CBG | thanks. |
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| 21:31.01 | CBG | It now says bad argument "Hello and Welcome to CBGs Test Server" |
| 21:31.44 | Pimpinella | -srvmsg "Hello and Welcome to CBGs Test Server" |
| 21:31.55 | CBG | Thats what I have |
| 21:31.58 | bryjen | the options before that ( -admsg -svrmsg or whatever ) may be typo-ed or the like |
| 21:32.19 | CBG | before that I have -sb and -requireudp |
| 21:32.33 | CBG | and besides, I copied it all from the man page and just deleted stuff I dont want |
| 21:32.53 | CBG | so I only typed only bits like "Hello and welcome....." |
| 21:33.36 | CBG | wait. |
| 21:33.48 | CBG | fixed that |
| 21:33.52 | Pimpinella | you most obviously want this text for -srvmsg or -admsg |
| 21:34.07 | CBG | I sorted it. thanks |
| 21:34.24 | CBG | Now it has a problem with -votePercentage 50 "bad argument" |
| 21:35.35 | Pimpinella | try -poll votePercentage 50 |
| 21:35.50 | Pimpinella | not sure about that though |
| 21:36.07 | CBG | Now it says "expected -poll variable=value" |
| 21:36.12 | Pimpinella | this has changed since i used it last |
| 21:36.24 | Pimpinella | -poll votePercentage=50 |
| 21:36.26 | Pimpinella | then |
| 21:36.54 | CBG | I just read the deafult is 50.1% |
| 21:36.59 | CBG | so maybe I need the % sign |
| 21:37.05 | CBG | or to make it Over 50 |
| 21:37.12 | CBG | either way, I will just use the default |
| 21:37.20 | CBG | and leave it out. :D |
| 21:37.50 | Pimpinella | somebody reworked the help msg, really nice job |
| 21:37.58 | CBG | Yeah |
| 21:38.12 | CBG | It works now :D |
| 21:38.52 | Pimpinella | reminds me, that i have to add some things to bzfs.6 |
| 21:39.55 | Pimpinella | DTRemenak: around? |
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| 22:09.30 | CBG | JeffM: What if the observer is in bzadmin, does he still contibute to lag? |
| 22:10.42 | JeffM2501 | bzadmin is still a client |
| 22:10.49 | JeffM2501 | it still gets the same data |
| 22:10.54 | JeffM2501 | it just ignores more |
| 22:11.00 | JeffM2501 | bzadmin isn't special |
| 22:11.13 | JeffM2501 | you arn't going to get more then 2-3 people on that |
| 22:11.15 | JeffM2501 | no mater what |
| 22:12.22 | CBG | Ok. :( |
| 22:18.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/src/c-ares/vc/ (13 files in 4 dirs): text is text |
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| 22:35.35 | menotume | is an int an int ? |
| 22:36.18 | Pimpinella | a very pilosophic question ;) |
| 22:36.33 | menotume | just wondering, cause text is text |
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| 22:36.47 | menotume | Bubbuhs ! |
| 22:36.51 | Pimpinella | and a gout is a gout |
| 22:36.55 | Pimpinella | goat |
| 22:37.02 | CBG | What does "Shot lifetime Mismatch" mean? |
| 22:37.05 | menotume | Did you get your video straightened out yet ? |
| 22:37.19 | CBG | "Player CBG [0] shot lifetime mismatch 3.700000 3.500000" |
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| 22:38.07 | Pimpinella | a shot seemed to be alive for too long |
| 22:38.24 | CBG | What could have caused that? |
| 22:38.41 | CBG | COuld it be because I used /set _shotRange 370 |
| 22:38.48 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 22:38.51 | CBG | nwhen it was originally 350? |
| 22:39.10 | CBG | Is is Suppossed to do it then? |
| 22:39.12 | menotume | sounds feasible |
| 22:39.24 | CBG | The figures match. :D |
| 22:39.52 | menotume | i would think it would straighten itself out, did you set shotrange while there was a shot ? |
| 22:40.03 | CBG | Dunno. |
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| 22:40.17 | CBG | But I kept getting the error everytime I shot |
| 22:40.25 | CBG | untill I closed are reran bzfs |
| 22:40.26 | Pimpinella | i'm not sure, it used to be simply ignored, but prolly it isn't anymore |
| 22:41.13 | Pimpinella | code develops faster than i can see the canges |
| 22:41.25 | Pimpinella | argh, i need sleep |
| 22:41.28 | CBG | me too |
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| 22:42.55 | CBG | ok... |
| 22:42.59 | CBG | night all, then. |
| 22:43.06 | CBG | cya |
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| 22:51.01 | DTRemenak | Pimpinella, I'm around now |
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| 22:53.49 | spldart | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 22:54.12 | Tupone | DTRemenak: when you are available .. do you mind debugging :) |
| 22:54.21 | DTRemenak | debugging what? |
| 22:54.25 | brad2901 | bzflag keeps crashing :( |
| 22:54.38 | Tupone | DTRemenak: libcurl |
| 22:54.43 | DTRemenak | ooh, that |
| 22:55.04 | DTRemenak | I'm rather firmly involved in linux right now. Maybe tomorrow I'll be in windows again... |
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| 22:55.38 | Tupone | ok, do you have a good debugger on windows? |
| 22:55.49 | DTRemenak | yes, visual studio's |
| 22:56.19 | Tupone | can you do libcurl debug too? probably need to rebuild from source with debug info |
| 22:57.02 | DTRemenak | yeah, would need to rebuild libcurl. I can do that, just takes effort :) |
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| 22:58.03 | Tupone | I stopped any further development here, waiting for things to be fixed. In case they are not I would rollback all :( |
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| 22:59.09 | DTRemenak | not fixing is not an option :) |
| 22:59.24 | Pimpinella | DTRemenak: i saw you reworked some of my code concerning ws |
| 22:59.31 | DTRemenak | if we need to patch libcurl I am willing to do that. what you wrote should have worked. |
| 22:59.38 | DTRemenak | Pimpinella, yes |
| 22:59.52 | Pimpinella | how should i configure my editor to do it correctly? |
| 23:00.20 | DTRemenak | the guidelines for whitespace are in DEVINFO. a tab is 8 spaces, an indent is 2 spaces. tab = 4 indents. |
| 23:00.34 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 23:00.38 | DTRemenak | some editors can't handle it, dev-cpp for instance hates having tab size != indent size |
| 23:00.48 | DTRemenak | emacs, vi, visual studio all do fine |
| 23:01.00 | DTRemenak | what do you use? |
| 23:01.09 | Pimpinella | anjuta currently |
| 23:01.22 | DTRemenak | heh, and it doesn't crash on you? :) |
| 23:01.36 | Pimpinella | no, works fine here |
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| 23:01.42 | Pimpinella | mostly ;) |
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| 23:04.00 | Pimpinella | anjuta isn't really happy about that configuration either :( |
| 23:04.28 | DTRemenak | yeah, our whitespace standards are not really that great w.r.t. making editors happy :S |
| 23:04.45 | DTRemenak | you can always patch anjunta :) |
| 23:05.49 | Pimpinella | naaaaaaah, though i use it i'm really no gtk fan.... |
| 23:07.19 | DTRemenak | kdevelop doesn't like it either, for that matter |
| 23:08.03 | Pimpinella | no, tried that too |
| 23:08.20 | DTRemenak | I haven't tried eclipse |
| 23:08.51 | Pimpinella | when i did last c++ was only supported rudimentary |
| 23:09.00 | Pimpinella | prolly time for a second try |
| 23:10.35 | Pimpinella | hm, and i didn't really use c++ at that time |
| 23:11.14 | Pimpinella | awk solves the majority of my problems |
| 23:11.53 | DTRemenak | if you're just writing new code, setting your editor to "tabs = 2 spaces, use spaces not tab characters to indent" works well enough. it turns existing code into an unreadable mess though, since it collapses the tabs into 2 spaces. |
| 23:12.28 | Pimpinella | k |
| 23:12.32 | DTRemenak | likewise if you're just reading code and not writing it, setting tabs = 8 spaces works fine |
| 23:13.08 | DTRemenak | ultimately though an editor which supports the "right" mode makes things a lot easier |
| 23:13.39 | Pimpinella | time to return to emacs ;) |
| 23:13.43 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 23:13.52 | JeffM2501 | or you can just be me and do what you want and give Tim stuff to WS |
| 23:14.06 | Pimpinella | nice idea |
| 23:14.22 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501 just does it 'cause he's lazy though, his editor supports it fine :P |
| 23:14.40 | JeffM2501 | I do it cus I do stuff at work, and don't want to change setings all the time |
| 23:14.52 | JeffM2501 | they pay me, Tim dosn't ;) |
| 23:15.05 | DTRemenak | "don't want to change setings all the time" yeah, like I said...lazy :) |
| 23:15.28 | Pimpinella | they pay you for coding bz? |
| 23:15.33 | Pimpinella | I WANT YOUR JOB |
| 23:15.38 | DTRemenak | hahaha |
| 23:15.56 | DTRemenak | I think bz would be a lot better by now if that were the case :) |
| 23:16.25 | JeffM2501 | I get paid the same no mater what I do here |
| 23:17.03 | DTRemenak | sometimes you do have to actually do work though |
| 23:17.11 | JeffM2501 | that I do |
| 23:17.20 | JeffM2501 | today was rotary head day |
| 23:17.25 | JeffM2501 | just like next week will |
| 23:18.58 | DTRemenak | sun! dreadful stuff |
| 23:31.10 | JeffM2501 | what are you doing now purple_cow? |
| 23:31.15 | JeffM2501 | still the stuff for the school? |
| 23:31.35 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, you and everyone else there who lives on campus |
| 23:31.55 | DTRemenak | not _everyone_, just most of us :) |
| 23:32.11 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: research! |
| 23:32.13 | purple_cow | it's cushy |
| 23:32.32 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 23:32.36 | JeffM2501 | researching what? |
| 23:34.26 | purple_cow | doing silly stuff with motion capture data |
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| 23:37.02 | Pimpinella | ~seen Death_Barrel |
| 23:37.08 | ibot | death_barrel <~Death@adsl-70-240-117-96.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 5h 45m 20s ago, saying: 'trepan, hehe i need to read my books, i procrastinate way too much about learning to code'. |
| 23:37.22 | JeffM2501 | is it at least intereting? |
| 23:40.45 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: yeah, i can pretty much do whatever i want, and my advisor is fantastic |
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