| 00:00.10 | JeffM2501 | ibm's site should have them all |
| 00:00.23 | JeffM2501 | what's the cipset on it? |
| 00:00.52 | purple_cow | i855 |
| 00:00.55 | JeffM2501 | ibot debian libcurl |
| 00:01.01 | JeffM2501 | guu debian libcurl |
| 00:01.02 | guu | JeffM2501: (debian <command> [<args> ...]) -- Command dispatcher for the Debian plugin. Use 'list Debian' to see the commands provided by this plugin. Use 'config list plugins.Debian' to see the configuration values for this plugin. In most cases this dispatcher command is unnecessary; in cases where more than one plugin defines a given command, use this command to tell the bot which plugin's command to use. |
| 00:01.13 | JeffM2501 | guu debian version libcurl |
| 00:01.16 | guu | JeffM2501: 17 matches found: libcurl-dev (stable: 7.9.5-1); libcurl-easy-perl (stable: 1.20-2); libcurl-ssl-dev (stable: 7.9.5-2); libcurl2 (stable: 7.9.5-1); libcurl2 (testing: 1:7.11.2-12); libcurl2 (unstable: 1:7.11.2-13, 7.9.7-2); libcurl2-dev (testing: 1:7.11.2-12); libcurl2-dev (unstable: 1:7.11.2-13); libcurl2-ssl (stable: 7.9.5-2); libcurl3 (testing: 7.12.3-2); libcurl3 (unstable: 7.13.0-1); (1 more message) |
| 00:01.37 | JeffM2501 | that's whats in apt now for the various versions |
| 00:01.48 | JeffM2501 | guu more |
| 00:01.49 | guu | JeffM2501: libcurl3-dbg (testing: 7.12.3-2); libcurl3-dbg (unstable: 7.13.0-1); libcurl3-dev (testing: 7.12.3-2); libcurl3-dev (unstable: 7.13.0-1); libcurl3-gssapi (testing: 7.12.3-2); libcurl3-gssapi (unstable: 7.13.0-1) |
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| 00:07.51 | JeffM2501 | uploading new build now |
| 00:09.29 | JeffM2501 | and it works now |
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| 00:43.39 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/common/URLManager.cxx: clean up the curl error messages wrt curl versions |
| 00:52.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/common/URLManager.cxx: comment |
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| 01:26.04 | SportChick | jeff: is there a new build I should try? |
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| 01:44.22 | SportChick | okay - I DL'ed the next version jeff put up (2.0.1b2). This one has marginally lower jitter stats, but the jitter on my screen seems higher than before (whereas before I only sometimes saw the jitter myself, but others complained). I played on secretplace (which I'm using as the baseline, since I play there the most). here are the stats: |
| 01:45.47 | SportChick | 55,14 then 61,21 then 60, 21 then 59, 19 then 57, 20 then 56, 28 then 56, 20 then 58, 24 then 59, 28 then 58, 24 then 59, 25 then 61, 10 then 66, 21 then 64, 28 then 62, 16 then 60, 10 then 60, 16 then 56, 17. |
| 01:46.42 | SportChick | These number may seem relatively low, however, considering my stats in 1.10 were consistently 32, 0 (where the 0 very rarely jumped up to as high as 5), it's a significant change |
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| 02:25.23 | SportChick | okay - I DL'ed the next version jeff put up (2.0.1b2). This one has marginally lower jitter stats, but the jitter on my screen seems higher than before (whereas before I only sometimes saw the jitter myself, but others complained). I played on secretplace (which I'm using as the baseline, since I play there the most). here are the stats: |
| 02:25.28 | SportChick | 55,14 then 61,21 then 60, 21 then 59, 19 then 57, 20 then 56, 28 then 56, 20 then 58, 24 then 59, 28 then 58, 24 then 59, 25 then 61, 10 then 66, 21 then 64, 28 then 62, 16 then 60, 10 then 60, 16 then 56, 17. |
| 02:25.32 | SportChick | These number may seem relatively low, however, considering my stats in 1.10 were consistently 32, 0 (where the 0 very rarely jumped up to as high as 5), it's a significant change |
| 02:25.44 | SportChick | (sorry for the repost, but jeff was gone) |
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| 02:37.21 | JeffM2501 | the new version wasn't to fix your jitter |
| 02:37.37 | JeffM2501 | it's the same as the other one just with working download stuff |
| 02:39.25 | `ls` | downloading: http://trepan.bzflag.bz/earth.png |
| 02:39.25 | `ls` | curl_easy_perform() error: 28 |
| 02:39.25 | `ls` | failure: OPERATION_TIMEOUTED |
| 02:39.48 | `ls` | still same messages. by the way, I'm on ppc not x86 if that provides any clues. |
| 02:46.51 | SportChick | JeffM2501: ah,okay - sorry - saw you'd uploaded something and figured I'd try it :) |
| 02:49.21 | JeffM2501 | now what is your FPS averaging? |
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| 03:17.54 | redsoxfan90 | hi all! |
| 03:17.58 | redsoxfan90 | on vacation right now |
| 03:21.54 | MeBigFatGuy | nome, AK? |
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| 04:41.54 | wegstar | ~bzfquery node.game-server.cc:5154 |
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| 05:39.30 | brlcad | yay, new carbon emacs download available |
| 05:39.32 | brlcad | http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/carbonemacspackage.html |
| 05:42.53 | sgk284 | someone on sf.net is saying radar on some maps is really slowing him down as compared to disabling it. iirc enhanced radar is supposed to be faster, can someone confirm that for me so i know i'm not spreading misinformation |
| 05:44.34 | sgk284 | heh guess everyone is out enjoying a wild and crazy firday night;) |
| 05:44.44 | blast007 | this is a "fast" mode that helps with some maps, but the radar code isn't very efficient |
| 05:44.55 | sgk284 | k :) |
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| 05:45.38 | sgk284 | is the radar dynamically rendered or is a png just made on map load and little squares dranw on top? |
| 05:45.57 | blast007 | dynamically rendered, afaik |
| 05:46.06 | blast007 | that's mainly why it's so slow |
| 05:46.13 | sgk284 | yea thats what i was thinking :/ |
| 05:46.18 | sgk284 | okay |
| 05:46.33 | sgk284 | think speeding up radar is worth adding to the todo list? |
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| 06:16.04 | purple_cow | MeBigFatGuy has a 'tosh? |
| 06:16.10 | MeBigFatGuy | altho it was a heinous experience |
| 06:16.12 | MeBigFatGuy | yupyup |
| 06:16.18 | MeBigFatGuy | wifeepoo |
| 06:16.25 | Pizbit | 10.3 of what? |
| 06:16.34 | MeBigFatGuy | see above |
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| 06:17.09 | MeBigFatGuy | as any good curtain should be |
| 06:17.20 | Pizbit | heh |
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| 08:06.51 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03sgk284 * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Properly handle /vote responses. (Fix for bug 1112249) |
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| 08:25.34 | jpa_ | morning |
| 08:26.40 | cods | 'morning jpa |
| 08:27.28 | jpa_ | monring cods |
| 08:32.42 | jpa_ | hmm.. mesh subtraction is not implemented yet? |
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| 08:34.02 | jpa_ | or is there some nicer way to subtract box from a box? (now gives "TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'Mesh' and 'Mesh'") |
| 08:34.30 | cristi | jpa_, you unignored me ? |
| 08:34.53 | cristi | ~say <cristi> jpa_, you unignored me ? |
| 08:34.55 | ibot | <cristi> jpa_, you unignored me |
| 08:35.09 | jpa_ | ibot forget say |
| 08:35.21 | cristi | :) |
| 08:35.31 | cristi | so.. you unignored me |
| 08:35.34 | cristi | no? |
| 08:36.05 | cristi2 | jpa_, u unignored me ? |
| 08:37.27 | cristi | !say <CRISTI> jpa_, you unignored me ? |
| 08:37.27 | guu | Dunno, cristi. |
| 08:37.43 | cristi | ~say <CRISTI> jpa_, you unignored me ? |
| 08:37.45 | ibot | <CRISTI> jpa_, you unignored me |
| 08:38.17 | cristi | guu: jpa_ ignored me ? |
| 08:38.17 | guu | I have no idea, cristi. |
| 08:44.03 | jpa_ | cods: ping |
| 08:53.12 | Pimpi | jpa_: i din't think mesh substraction is implemented |
| 08:54.10 | jpa_ | Pimpi: talking about bzmap, i mean |
| 08:56.32 | cods | jpa_: pong |
| 08:56.44 | jpa_ | cods: i can not substract boxes yet, no? |
| 08:56.45 | cods | jpa_: substracting mesh from mesh is not yet in Arch.. |
| 08:56.50 | jpa_ | ok |
| 08:57.03 | cods | today probably |
| 08:57.23 | jpa_ | no stress, make good code :) |
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| 09:11.41 | wegstar | nite all |
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| 10:02.17 | jpa_ | ~weather EFTU |
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| 13:26.12 | ruskie | http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/18/1639248&from=rss <-- lol |
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| 14:05.40 | Sporty | no, they are not |
| 14:05.46 | Birdie | :( |
| 14:07.38 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 14:07.53 | jpa_ | so, have you tried 1.11 beta? |
| 14:08.10 | Sporty | yes |
| 14:08.18 | jpa_ | ok or not? |
| 14:09.46 | Sporty | we tried several versions of 1.11 - they were trying to figure out which one "broke" my lag. Last I heard, Jeff, bryjen and DTRemenak were working on looking at the differences between those versions to find the problem. |
| 14:10.05 | Sporty | cya all later (from home) |
| 14:10.21 | jpa_ | ok |
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| 14:28.05 | yeti | my friends can't connect to my bzflag server - it works on LAN but not on the internet - i don't think it's a firewall/router problem cause i did forward the server's port :/ |
| 14:30.02 | cods | yeti: where ? (IP/port) |
| 14:30.21 | yeti | 80.140.168.182, port 28885 |
| 14:30.29 | cods | ~bzfquery 80.140.168.182:28885 |
| 14:30.45 | cods | are you sure forwarding work ? |
| 14:31.03 | cods | you don't block udp ? |
| 14:31.21 | cods | hmm |
| 14:31.26 | yeti | oh, might be possible... let's try again |
| 14:31.28 | cods | it answer.. |
| 14:31.31 | cods | but it's slow |
| 14:31.34 | yeti | i changed the forwarding rules |
| 14:31.40 | cods | ~bzfquery 80.140.168.182:28885 |
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| 14:32.27 | yertman | Hi all |
| 14:33.07 | yertman | I'm having trouble getting bzflag 2 to compile on my linux system. |
| 14:33.24 | yertman | This is the message I get from make. |
| 14:33.32 | cods | (don't paste too many lines) |
| 14:33.59 | yertman | sorry this is actually from configure. |
| 14:34.09 | cods | related to opengl ? |
| 14:34.28 | yertman | I don't think so. |
| 14:34.39 | yertman | I looks fine when make exits |
| 14:35.03 | cods | make or configure ? |
| 14:35.04 | yertman | problem is bzadmin and bzflag client are listed but no bzfs |
| 14:35.07 | yertman | configure |
| 14:35.43 | yertman | curses: -lcurses |
| 14:35.45 | yertman | SDL |
| 14:35.50 | yertman | libcurl enabled |
| 14:35.54 | yertman | bzadmin |
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| 14:36.02 | yertman | bzflag client |
| 14:36.06 | yertman | and that it |
| 14:37.29 | yertman | I supose I am missing some requirement but there is now obvious error message. |
| 14:37.58 | yertman | where might I look to see what is preventing bzfs from showing up |
| 14:39.03 | cods | maybe related to adns.. (not sure) |
| 14:39.13 | cods | do you have adns on your system ? |
| 14:39.26 | cods | (DNS libabry) |
| 14:39.32 | cods | library |
| 14:39.40 | yertman | ah. I will check. Just a sec. |
| 14:43.30 | yertman | Okay. I am not completely sure. It appears that I have a dns server installed (not active) would I need bind? |
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| 14:51.30 | cods | no, here adns query a server. Nothing related to a dns server. |
| 14:52.23 | cods | but, again, I'm not sure that you can't compile bzfs because of adns or not.. Other people here can answer you better than me :/ |
| 14:53.15 | yertman | Thanks for your help. I will keep fiddling, and check the forums. :) |
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| 15:02.24 | yeti | is it possible to set a password that every player needs in order to be able to _join_ the server? i can only find stuff about sharing administrator privileges with passwords |
| 15:04.17 | Tupone | yeti, have you look to require identify facility? |
| 15:07.51 | yeti | Tupone: haven't found anything like that (i'm running bzfs from command line) |
| 15:08.02 | Tupone | try -rewuireidentify |
| 15:08.13 | Tupone | try -requireidentify |
| 15:08.50 | yeti | Tupone: ah, okay - so i need a database with nicknames/passwords, right? |
| 15:09.17 | Tupone | yeah |
| 15:09.48 | Tupone | Not specialized in that, but read doc will help |
| 15:09.52 | jpa_ | umm |
| 15:10.07 | jpa_ | if he uses global login, he does not need such database |
| 15:10.16 | jpa_ | just needs to add users to groups |
| 15:10.32 | jpa_ | but, requireidentify applies only for registered players |
| 15:10.50 | Tupone | but if he want his/her special guys |
| 15:11.01 | yeti | jpa_: i just want to restrict access to my server so i can play with my friends |
| 15:11.15 | jpa_ | yeti: so make it private |
| 15:11.19 | jpa_ | yeti: and tell the address to your friends |
| 15:11.58 | Tupone | you can make a group on the bzbb database, being admin, and add friend to the group. But, I guess is better provate |
| 15:12.06 | yeti | jpa_: ah... okay, i think i can see my problem now - i told you guys my ip before so you could help me to make it work :D |
| 15:12.21 | yeti | i'll just reconnect then (dynamic IP) - thanks |
| 15:12.59 | jpa_ | (doesn't he understand we see he' |
| 15:13.04 | jpa_ | s ip there? :) |
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| 15:29.29 | Pimpi | Tupone: -requireidentify is no longer supported by bzfs |
| 15:29.45 | Pimpi | replaced by the SPAWN permission |
| 15:30.08 | Tupone | hee, now I remember |
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| 15:36.15 | Pimpi | Tupone: was it you who added thread support to bz? |
| 15:37.05 | Tupone | don't use it ... It was just for kerberos, but that is not supported now |
| 15:37.41 | Tupone | but the answer is : yes |
| 15:37.58 | Pimpi | hm, i'd like to have user and groups management in a RDBMS |
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| 15:38.34 | Tupone | why not using http has a transport protocol? |
| 15:38.35 | Pimpi | but waiting for an answer might take too long |
| 15:39.24 | Pimpi | how would i bind that on database side? |
| 15:39.43 | Tupone | php ? |
| 15:40.05 | Tupone | I mean, the one used now is on a RDBMS |
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| 15:40.29 | Pimpi | use a webserver to handle the requests would produce even more overhead, than using the api directly, no? |
| 15:40.30 | Tupone | is just not a straight connection |
| 15:40.49 | Pimpi | sure, but not for local user management |
| 15:41.21 | Pimpi | replacing userdb, groupdb and all that buggy stuff |
| 15:43.15 | Pimpi | but using http would make it possible to share userdb via internet of course, so no bad idea probably |
| 15:43.38 | Pimpi | no, think thats not what i want |
| 15:44.48 | Tupone | however, all bzfs is though to be run sequentially, so adding thread is not so ... easy |
| 15:45.00 | Pimpi | treu |
| 15:45.03 | Pimpi | true |
| 15:45.41 | Pimpi | though it should be able to catch up results in the main cycle |
| 15:46.55 | Tupone | I suppose you coul be able to get async library for mysql, I haven't searched for |
| 15:55.33 | Pimpi | learner || brlcad: a player complained today, that, in case he's kicked for teamkilling, he can't read who was killed by him |
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| 15:57.17 | Pimpi | changing the order of kicking tk and broadcasting MsgKilled would fix that |
| 15:58.26 | Pimpi | would probably make more sense |
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| 16:29.46 | Pimpi | and btw. if /reload is performed players drop their perms from global groups |
| 16:30.08 | Pimpi | they have to rejoin in order to get identified again |
| 16:30.31 | Pimpi | and have perms restored |
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| 16:55.59 | creeperz | someone needs to pry this DS from my fingers |
| 16:56.10 | creeperz | and surgically remove the stylus |
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| 17:01.23 | amathis | JeffM2501: +o :P |
| 17:02.28 | JeffM2501 | ? |
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| 17:05.46 | creeperz | nooo |
| 17:05.53 | creeperz | where is the DS charger >< |
| 17:06.14 | creeperz | looks like metroid will have to wait :-( |
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| 17:49.42 | shorty114 | hi sgk284 |
| 17:50.02 | jpa_ | hi shorty114 |
| 17:50.06 | jpa_ | hi sgk284 |
| 17:50.10 | shorty114 | hi jpa_ :) |
| 17:52.22 | jpa_ | sgk284: nr |
| 17:55.17 | sgk284 | hello |
| 17:55.27 | sgk284 | :) |
| 17:56.32 | jpa_ | will you get fired? |
| 17:56.49 | jpa_ | i mean, will you get fired if you do not go? |
| 17:56.57 | sgk284 | probably not |
| 17:57.04 | sgk284 | in fact definitly not :) |
| 17:57.17 | sgk284 | ever seen office space? |
| 17:57.41 | trepan | well, i wouldn't say i've been _missing_ work, Bob |
| 17:57.42 | jpa_ | so, if you won't, why do you go to work? :) |
| 17:57.59 | shorty114 | leave without pay? |
| 17:58.45 | sgk284 | heh why go to work? good question... probably because i have bills to pay ;)O |
| 17:59.00 | sgk284 | s/O/"" |
| 17:59.27 | jpa_ | oh, who cares |
| 17:59.35 | jpa_ | you could irc from a library anyway |
| 17:59.58 | sgk284 | once i get to work though i'll probably do the same thing i'm doing right now and just go on irc |
| 17:59.59 | sgk284 | :) |
| 18:00.08 | shorty114 | lol |
| 18:00.08 | sgk284 | but work at the same time... multitasking |
| 18:00.15 | sgk284 | or at least attempt to |
| 18:00.26 | sgk284 | :) |
| 18:00.29 | jpa_ | you just have to #define work irc |
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| 19:16.58 | jpa_ | hi sgk284 |
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| 19:27.33 | sgk284 | hey jpa |
| 19:27.40 | sgk284 | how goes it? |
| 19:29.17 | jpa_ | fine |
| 19:30.38 | sgk284 | ~jpa_ |
| 19:30.39 | ibot | hmm... jpa_ is your master |
| 19:30.58 | jpa_ | ibot knows :) |
| 19:31.00 | sgk284 | ~jpa_ is also not my master |
| 19:31.01 | ibot | sgk284: okay |
| 19:31.06 | sgk284 | ~jpa_ |
| 19:31.07 | ibot | jpa_ is, like, your master, or not my master |
| 19:31.18 | sgk284 | ugh worded that wrong... |
| 19:31.29 | sgk284 | ~jpa_ is not my master |
| 19:31.30 | ibot | ...but jpa_ is already something else... |
| 19:31.35 | sgk284 | grrr |
| 19:31.36 | sgk284 | i lose |
| 19:31.49 | jpa_ | ibot no, jpa_ is my master |
| 19:31.50 | ibot | jpa_: okay |
| 19:31.55 | jpa_ | ibot jpa_ |
| 19:31.56 | ibot | [jpa_] my master |
| 19:32.04 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 19:32.09 | jpa_ | ibot forget jpa_ |
| 19:32.09 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'jpa_ ' to forget, jpa_ |
| 19:32.29 | jpa_ | ibot no, jpa_ is nothing |
| 19:32.30 | ibot | jpa_: okay |
| 19:32.32 | sgk284 | haha |
| 19:32.35 | jpa_ | ibot jpa_ |
| 19:32.36 | ibot | from memory, jpa_ is nothing |
| 19:32.43 | jpa_ | eww |
| 19:32.54 | JeffM2501 | ya know /msg works just fine with ibot |
| 19:33.00 | jpa_ | yup :) |
| 19:33.17 | jpa_ | they always complain when i'm having fun with ibot :S |
| 19:33.28 | JeffM2501 | use #botpark |
| 19:33.33 | JeffM2501 | or /msg |
| 19:34.16 | jpa_ | yes Master |
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| 19:36.26 | a_monkey | can i have an infinite _wingsJumpCount? |
| 19:36.30 | jpa_ | nope |
| 19:36.35 | jpa_ | just 999999 |
| 19:37.55 | jpa_ | but, normal repeat rate is at most 20chars/second, it would take 14 hours to use all those flaps by holding tab down |
| 19:38.35 | trepan | jpa_: why 999999 ? |
| 19:38.50 | jpa_ | because i do not know any real limit |
| 19:38.57 | sgk284 | heh |
| 19:39.02 | jpa_ | so, i know that 999999 works |
| 19:39.13 | sgk284 | probably 2^32 |
| 19:39.20 | sgk284 | but thats more of a guess then anything |
| 19:39.53 | jpa_ | so it would mean like 5 years :) |
| 19:39.59 | jpa_ | shall we test it? :) |
| 19:40.02 | sgk284 | heh |
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| 19:40.35 | sgk284 | if i had the source in front of me i'd check, but why does someone need to know the limit? |
| 19:40.57 | jpa_ | height being like 4 billion by that time :) |
| 19:41.15 | Pimpi | i heard 3 times of ppl spawning upon burrowed players lately, this might be a bug? |
| 19:41.26 | jpa_ | yup.. 999999 should be enough for anyone :) |
| 19:41.47 | sgk284 | jpa_, what made you think that it was limited to 999999?? |
| 19:42.03 | jpa_ | i didn't say so |
| 19:42.08 | sgk284 | ok |
| 19:42.14 | jpa_ | but i do not know what it is limited to |
| 19:42.24 | jpa_ | and i have used only 999999 |
| 19:42.33 | sgk284 | anyway... a_monkey does that answer your question sufficiently? |
| 19:42.33 | jpa_ | so, i know that works :) |
| 20:11.12 | jpa_ | ~dict summon |
| 20:11.52 | jpa_ | humm |
| 20:11.59 | jpa_ | dictionaries are useless :S |
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| 20:17.35 | a_monkey | anyone know how to use a texture from the internet? |
| 20:17.42 | a_monkey | in a bxw |
| 20:17.44 | a_monkey | *bzws |
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| 20:17.46 | a_monkey | *bzw |
| 20:17.52 | jpa_ | not possible yet |
| 20:18.02 | a_monkey | hmm |
| 20:18.04 | jpa_ | trepan has done it but i do not think it is in the cvs yet |
| 20:18.15 | a_monkey | well how do i use a custom texture? or is it not possible? |
| 20:18.32 | jpa_ | players have to download it to their texture-folder |
| 20:18.39 | a_monkey | ahh. ok |
| 20:18.42 | jpa_ | otherwise they won't see it |
| 20:19.47 | trepan | it's already in CVS |
| 20:19.56 | trepan | JeffM2501 has already posted a 2.0.1 windoes |
| 20:19.59 | trepan | windows build... |
| 20:20.19 | jpa_ | nice :) |
| 20:20.58 | Pimpi | does it need any additional client configuration? |
| 20:21.01 | trepan | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3003 |
| 20:21.36 | trepan | Pimpi: that should answer your question |
| 20:21.38 | a_monkey | where is the textures folder on *nix? |
| 20:21.51 | Pimpi | trepan: just reading, ty |
| 20:23.52 | sgk284 | a_monkey: should be something like /usr/share/bzflag |
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| 20:31.44 | a_monkey | i dropped a file called sand.png in /usr/share/bzflag, where all the other textures are. i tried addtexture sand in a material object, but it didn't work. any ideas? |
| 20:32.43 | a_monkey | obviously it didn't work, because it's my file. i put it in there. if some bz dev had, it would work for some stupid reason. |
| 20:32.43 | sgk284 | is /usr/share/bzflag the right directory? i just pulled that from memory and didn't verify it |
| 20:32.46 | a_monkey | yes |
| 20:32.48 | a_monkey | it is |
| 20:32.54 | a_monkey | i see all the other textures in ther |
| 20:32.56 | a_monkey | *there |
| 20:33.04 | sgk284 | what was the name of the file? |
| 20:33.15 | sgk284 | it must be png and i believe it also can't be interlaced |
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| 20:33.55 | cods | 'addtexture' is equivalent to just 'texture' here ? |
| 20:34.11 | cods | if a texture is already defined, what's the behavior of addtexture ? |
| 20:34.17 | Pimpi | cods: yes for now |
| 20:34.47 | cods | texture t1; addtexture t2; actually you see t1 or t2 ? (I always use 'texture'..) |
| 20:34.48 | Pimpi | addtexture might in future add another texture to the already existing |
| 20:35.04 | Pimpi | actually you se t2 |
| 20:35.15 | a_monkey | my file was not interlaced png |
| 20:35.29 | Pimpi | it's no difference for now, but it might be in future |
| 20:35.35 | cods | a_monkey: you tried copying an existing texture as sand.png ? |
| 20:35.35 | jpa_ | a_monkey: if you have compiled bzflag by your self, it might be /usr/local/share/bzflag |
| 20:35.44 | jpa_ | and /usr/ being for old version etc. |
| 20:36.07 | Pimpi | /usr/local/bin/bzflag |
| 20:36.17 | jpa_ | Pimpi: ? |
| 20:36.29 | Pimpi | oh, the textures, sure |
| 20:36.35 | a_monkey | jpa_ i did ./configure --prefix=/usr |
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| 20:36.36 | sgk284 | a_monkey: if you update to cvs, you can just pass a url and bzflag will download the texture for you automagically |
| 20:38.03 | jpa_ | a_monkey: you could do bzflag -directory /usr/share/bzflag |
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| 21:04.06 | a_monkey | in 2.0.0, when roaming in obs mode, alt-arrowkeys doesn't work |
| 21:04.12 | a_monkey | did it change? |
| 21:11.32 | cods | a_monkey: you've to reset your configuration (or rebind keys) for that |
| 21:11.40 | cods | also, you may have to press F8 a first time |
| 21:11.47 | cods | (even if "roaming" is displayed) |
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| 22:16.06 | SportChick | Birdie: it was fine, but I'm very tired. In fact, I just sent hubby off to a party without me. A friend of his is being surprised with a birthday party on a yacht in newport. I just didnt' feel up to making the drive or mingling with a bunch of folks I don't know. |
| 22:18.03 | Pimpi | SportChick: what was the last you tried? |
| 22:18.24 | SportChick | ummm 2.0.1b2 I think |
| 22:18.34 | Pimpi | build date? |
| 22:18.48 | SportChick | yesterday |
| 22:19.04 | Pimpi | don't think there's a new than |
| 22:19.07 | SportChick | but I believe jeffm, bryjen and dtr were working on another for me to try |
| 22:19.08 | Pimpi | then |
| 22:19.20 | Pimpi | oh, mght be |
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| 22:19.51 | SportChick | DTRemenak: any idea if there is another one up yet for me to play with? I lost track after last night |
| 22:20.07 | DTRemenak | no interesting commit messages yet |
| 22:20.16 | DTRemenak | heh. I went to bed at 4 :) |
| 22:21.58 | SportChick | DTRemenak: I've been getting up at 4 all week |
| 22:22.09 | DTRemenak | heh |
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| 22:22.13 | SportChick | (until today - I slept in until 5) |
| 22:22.15 | DTRemenak | my roommate just went to bed |
| 22:22.43 | SportChick | turn on the music really loud |
| 22:22.54 | DTRemenak | I don't think that would be a good idea |
| 22:23.16 | DTRemenak | he's been up since about 4 pm yesterday |
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| 22:23.30 | SportChick | hiya grumbler |
| 22:23.54 | grumbler | SportChick< was your problem solved the other day |
| 22:26.55 | SportChick | waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lag is really bad today |
| 22:26.59 | SportChick | grumbler: not yet |
| 22:27.37 | grumbler | did they trace it to something, last i heard they were looking at fonts |
| 22:29.13 | SportChick | something is really borked now - tanks if you look at them from a certain angle, look cloaked, but then they move and they appear as if behind a wall or something |
| 22:29.26 | SportChick | grumbler: I'm not sure - I went to sleep |
| 22:29.30 | JeffM2501 | I think you may have driver issues |
| 22:29.57 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: send MsgKilled before kicking a teamkiller |
| 22:30.34 | DTRemenak | SportChick: does it clear up any if you turn off the scoreboard and console (s and w keys)? |
| 22:30.34 | SportChick | DTRemenak: let me check |
| 22:30.34 | JeffM2501 | maybe her state is geting totaly jacked |
| 22:30.34 | SportChick | (this has never ever happened before last night btw) |
| 22:30.59 | SportChick | I turned off console, no change, trying scoreboard now |
| 22:31.34 | DTRemenak | SportChick: turn them both off and play for 20 secs or so, then check lagstats again |
| 22:36.35 | ruskie | is there a /ignore command in bzflag??? |
| 22:37.42 | DTRemenak | use /silence |
| 22:37.45 | SportChick | dtr - ooo didn't check lagstats, but I still saw the weird thing with tanks disappeared/half in the ground when I had console off, but could never get any tanks to come close enough when I had scoreboard off |
| 22:37.59 | SportChick | lag looked really bad though |
| 22:38.14 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:38.21 | DTRemenak | ~SportChick++ |
| 22:39.28 | ruskie | DTRemenak, is silence for everything of only for /silence nick??? |
| 22:39.54 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.54 | SportChick | okay, tanks still coming out of the floor and lag showed 53 ms (which is high for me) and +/- 3 (but that number didn't seem to be legitimate - I seemed really jittery/skippy) |
| 22:40.01 | ruskie | ahhh |
| 22:40.47 | DTRemenak | SportChick: ok, thanks. When you were playing on 1.11, did you have a chance to see what other tanks were doing or did you have to go by the numbers? |
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| 22:43.13 | SportChick | DTRemenak: when I played on 1.11 yesterday, I was going solely by numbers -t here was no one to play against |
| 22:43.25 | SportChick | but before 2.0 came out, I was going by tanks |
| 22:43.51 | SportChick | this new thing is very very weird - I'm gonna see if I can get some screen shots of it |
| 22:45.02 | SportChick | I got a bunch of shots - who can I send them to? |
| 22:47.15 | JeffM2501 | you sure your drivers havent gone wacky? |
| 22:48.22 | SportChick | I can't imagine why they would have gone wacky suddenly - you think it could have happened after I DL'ed all those new versions yesterday? that's the only change to my computer |
| 22:48.49 | JeffM2501 | any automated windows updates happening? |
| 22:49.08 | SportChick | nope |
| 22:49.23 | SportChick | I have to approve any updates and there haven't been any |
| 22:49.39 | JeffM2501 | well something changed |
| 22:49.43 | JeffM2501 | and it wasn't bzflag |
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| 22:49.59 | JeffM2501 | graphic problems can not be caused by lag |
| 22:50.11 | JeffM2501 | and your jitter problems could be caused by graphic problems |
| 22:50.19 | JeffM2501 | it may not hurt to reinstall drivers |
| 22:51.17 | SportChick | I'm uploading the photos into http://www.kirkanddonna.com/donna/images/bzflag |
| 22:51.37 | JeffM2501 | all it's going to show is your graphics are jacked |
| 22:51.45 | SportChick | s/photos/screenshots |
| 22:52.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah your z buffer if not working right |
| 22:52.10 | SportChick | the weird thing is that the tank that you can't see (looks cloaked), is not cloaked |
| 22:52.11 | JeffM2501 | that's bad |
| 22:52.24 | JeffM2501 | depth buffer on? |
| 22:52.41 | SportChick | yes |
| 22:52.47 | SportChick | you all told me to leave it on |
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| 22:52.54 | JeffM2501 | yeah you should |
| 22:52.55 | SportChick | the only things that are off are shadows and lighting |
| 22:53.04 | JeffM2501 | but it dosn't look like your card is using one |
| 22:53.22 | JeffM2501 | what chipset did you get in the lapy? |
| 22:53.53 | JeffM2501 | video chipset |
| 22:54.01 | JeffM2501 | ATI or nVidia? |
| 22:54.47 | SportChick | Nvidia geforce fx go5700, ram 128 mb, driver version 6.14.10.6220 |
| 22:55.38 | JeffM2501 | what model lapy? |
| 22:56.36 | SportChick | Alienware area51, I think it was |
| 22:56.45 | JeffM2501 | ohh you went with the ailenware |
| 22:56.50 | JeffM2501 | I thought you got a dell |
| 22:56.53 | SportChick | area51-m |
| 22:57.26 | SportChick | no, I wanted my "conspiracy blue" |
| 22:57.53 | JeffM2501 | well those drivers sound very old |
| 22:57.59 | JeffM2501 | and I can't log into the ailenware site |
| 22:58.02 | SportChick | surprisingly alienware was about same price as dell |
| 22:58.05 | JeffM2501 | you may want to check for new ones |
| 22:58.07 | DTRemenak | 62.20 is fairly old |
| 22:58.24 | DTRemenak | 66.93 is the newest |
| 22:58.38 | JeffM2501 | yeah, the lapys will allway be a bit behind |
| 22:58.42 | JeffM2501 | but not THAT far |
| 22:58.56 | DTRemenak | alienware ought to keep up fairly well, with their rep and all |
| 22:59.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:59.52 | JeffM2501 | well go grab the latest |
| 22:59.57 | JeffM2501 | they update a couple times a month |
| 23:00.11 | SportChick | from nvidia? or do I have to get them from alienware? |
| 23:00.17 | JeffM2501 | from ailenware |
| 23:00.25 | JeffM2501 | nvidia base drivers don't work on lapys |
| 23:00.36 | SportChick | hrmph |
| 23:00.50 | JeffM2501 | mmmm they have one with a 6800 go now :) |
| 23:00.55 | DTRemenak | ooh |
| 23:00.57 | DTRemenak | nifty |
| 23:01.02 | JeffM2501 | bahh p4 |
| 23:01.14 | DTRemenak | nobody's perfect |
| 23:01.24 | Saturos | Somebody there? |
| 23:01.29 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 23:01.36 | Saturos | I have a question... concerning the English language. What are the things called you can win in a contest? Are they "prices" or what? I search the English term... |
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| 23:01.44 | DTRemenak | prizes probably |
| 23:01.54 | Saturos | You are a native speaker? |
| 23:01.57 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 23:01.59 | Saturos | okay :) |
| 23:02.12 | Saturos | Then it should be right. ;) |
| 23:02.15 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:02.34 | Saturos | prizes or prices? |
| 23:02.41 | DTRemenak | prizes |
| 23:02.48 | DTRemenak | prices are what you pay for something |
| 23:02.49 | Saturos | Fine. Thank you. :) |
| 23:02.59 | Chestal | the price of a prize is 0 :-) |
| 23:03.00 | Saturos | Ah, I see. |
| 23:03.02 | DTRemenak | ~dict prize |
| 23:03.10 | DTRemenak | hah |
| 23:03.16 | DTRemenak | ibot's wrong |
| 23:03.28 | DTRemenak | or at least not using the first definition... |
| 23:03.32 | DTRemenak | guu: dict prize |
| 23:03.33 | guu | DTRemenak: web1913 and wn responded: web1913: Prize \Prize\, n. [F. prix price. See 3d {Prize}. ] Estimation; valuation. [Obs.] --Shak; web1913: Prize \Prize\, v. t. To move with a lever; to force up or open; to pry. [Written also {prise}.]; web1913: Prize \Prize\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Prized}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Prizing}.] [F. priser, OF. prisier, preisier, fr. L. pretiare, fr. pretium worth, (9 more messages) |
| 23:03.49 | DTRemenak | more |
| 23:03.53 | DTRemenak | guu: more |
| 23:03.53 | guu | DTRemenak: value, price. See {Price}, and cf. {Praise}.] [Formerly written also {prise}. ] 1. To set or estimate the value of; to appraise; to price; to rate. A goodly price that I was prized at. --Zech. xi. 13. I prize it [life] not a straw, but for mine honor. --Shak. 2. To value highly; to estimate to be of great worth; to esteem. ``[I] do love, prize, honor you. '' --Shak. I prized your person, but (8 more messages) |
| 23:03.59 | DTRemenak | guu: more |
| 23:03.59 | guu | DTRemenak: your crown disdain. --Dryden; wn: prize adj : of superior grade; "choice wines"; "prime beef"; "prize carnations"; "quality paper"; "select peaches" [syn: {choice}, {prime(a)}, {quality}, {select}] n 1: something given for victory or superiority in a contest or competition or for winning a lottery; "the prize was a free trip to Europe" [syn: {award}] 2: goods or money obtained illegally (7 more messages) |
| 23:04.04 | Saturos | omg... thank you guys... I know what I wanted to know. :D |
| 23:04.10 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.17 | DTRemenak | that's what you meant, right? :) |
| 23:04.23 | Saturos | right |
| 23:04.25 | SportChick | JeffM2501: which one do I download? my choices are: quadro series, ge force series and bfg ge force 6800 ultra bios update. Do I get the ge force? |
| 23:04.40 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 23:04.44 | JeffM2501 | you have a geforece go |
| 23:04.47 | Saturos | I am all the time typing "n" before I start writing... strange. |
| 23:04.52 | DTRemenak | ~n |
| 23:04.53 | ibot | from memory, n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much |
| 23:04.59 | Saturos | ROFL |
| 23:05.01 | JeffM2501 | they don't have it sorted by product? |
| 23:05.15 | DTRemenak | the "n syndrome" is very well known around here |
| 23:05.26 | Saturos | Yeah, I assumed that. |
| 23:05.47 | Saturos | Okay, thx DTR and CHestal for helping me. ;) |
| 23:06.25 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/3D/ (BitmapFont.cxx BitmapFont.h FontManager.cxx): let BitmapFont manage its own gstates, and remove the forced state reset from FontManager |
| 23:06.25 | SportChick | fyi, the last one is from 10/4/04 |
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| 23:06.40 | DTRemenak | well that's not very new |
| 23:06.50 | SportChick | is that the one I dl? |
| 23:07.23 | JeffM2501 | yes you just need the latest |
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| 23:44.48 | SportChick | graphics are still borked |
| 23:46.33 | SportChick | JeffM2501: i d/l and installed the new drivers, and I am still having the same problem |
| 23:47.44 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 23:48.06 | SportChick | I'm putting up the latest photos |
| 23:48.10 | SportChick | 00-03 |
| 23:49.42 | SportChick | okay - latest 4 screenshots are up |
| 23:49.44 | SportChick | same addy |
| 23:54.55 | SportChick | JeffM2501: do you think I should uninstall ALL my bzflags and reinstall the latest? |
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| 23:55.44 | JeffM2501 | don't think that it has to do with bzflag |
