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| 00:16.55 | Noodle-sensei | EVIL |
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| 00:58.58 | lan56 | heh, i think it's funny in TODO file where it says "world peace" under the "these should happen before the next release" part :) |
| 00:59.54 | cods | "world peace" is planned for "today", with usual meaning of today is topic ;) |
| 01:00.00 | cods | s/is/in/ |
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| 01:02.03 | lan56 | :) perhaps world peace in bzflag worlds, not the real world? :) |
| 01:02.54 | shorty114 | hi lan56 |
| 01:03.09 | lan56 | hey shorty114 |
| 01:03.15 | shorty114 | wassup? |
| 01:04.41 | lan56 | the nasdaq, by 11 points. what about you? |
| 01:05.10 | blast007 | heh |
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| 01:06.38 | shorty114 | haha. |
| 01:06.41 | shorty114 | hi SportChick |
| 01:09.58 | shorty114 | what? no hi for me? ;) |
| 01:10.34 | shorty114 | lol |
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| 01:13.43 | lan56 | shorty114: not everybody likes you :) just kidding |
| 01:13.50 | wegstar | heh... |
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| 01:15.12 | shorty114 | lan56: :'( |
| 01:15.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/README.DEVC++: mention the biggest step of all: getting dev-c++ |
| 01:15.42 | SportChick | hooray!!! /flag show works now!!! |
| 01:15.47 | SportChick | hiya shorty |
| 01:15.51 | shorty114 | yay |
| 01:15.59 | shorty114 | ~SportChick++ |
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| 01:16.20 | lan56 | shorty114: I was just kidding with you, I do not know of anyone that does not enjoy your presence |
| 01:16.29 | shorty114 | lan56: apart from JeffM2501 ;) |
| 01:16.57 | lan56 | ok, maybe one person, but you get the idea :) |
| 01:17.09 | shorty114 | lol |
| 01:19.18 | SportChick | ~trepan++ |
| 01:19.20 | SportChick | ~tupone++ |
| 01:19.21 | Noodle-sensei | JeffM2501 fears me instead |
| 01:19.24 | Noodle-sensei | bwahaha |
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| 01:26.37 | SportChick | learner/brlcad: what happened to the filter? |
| 01:26.40 | SportChick | it's borked |
| 01:27.27 | SportChick | page is now fixed it by itself, but still filters if in a sentence. now "rules" is borked. and wtf is allowed through |
| 01:27.29 | Noodle-sensei | JeffM2501: come on out, i know you're hiding from my glorious majesty |
| 01:27.38 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: ping |
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| 01:40.49 | Legolas | nhi\ |
| 01:40.59 | Legolas | no one here |
| 01:41.16 | *** part/#bzflag Legolas (~who@69.106.188.199) |
| 01:43.22 | shorty114 | well, if you would give us a chance to respond... |
| 01:49.17 | blast007 | or maybe we though "nhi\" meant there was a spider on the keyboard |
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| 01:51.06 | shorty114 | hi Aribeth |
| 01:51.12 | Aribeth | hi |
| 01:51.20 | shorty114 | how goes the site? |
| 01:51.23 | Aribeth | whats up? |
| 01:51.44 | Aribeth | not doin much on the site right noe |
| 01:52.01 | shorty114 | sw33t |
| 01:52.03 | Aribeth | been working on my GizaPlateau map |
| 01:52.13 | shorty114 | ah yes |
| 01:52.18 | shorty114 | i saw it the other day |
| 01:52.20 | shorty114 | i was playing on it |
| 01:52.24 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 01:52.25 | shorty114 | the deserty one? |
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| 01:52.31 | Aribeth | yep |
| 01:52.37 | shorty114 | ah yes |
| 01:52.44 | shorty114 | it was kinda laggy, but i think that was the conn |
| 01:52.57 | Aribeth | ahh |
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| 01:54.38 | Aribeth | i run the server on my dsl line. |
| 01:54.53 | Aribeth | not the best connection |
| 01:55.08 | shorty114 | ah yes |
| 01:55.13 | shorty114 | explains a lot ;) |
| 01:56.14 | Aribeth | i hope to colocate a server one day |
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| 02:04.44 | SportChick | bryjen: also, it used to be that the admin channel wasn't filtered, but now it is |
| 02:04.52 | SportChick | learner: ping |
| 02:04.54 | SportChick | brlcad: ping |
| 02:07.36 | orange | JeffM2501: http://tinyurl.com/4vgzw (another mp3 player, 512M, $108) |
| 02:07.53 | orange | no personal testimonial on this one though :-) |
| 02:09.14 | trepan | SportChick: do you want the admin channel filtered? |
| 02:15.41 | trepan | heh, likewise |
| 02:16.00 | trepan | i was picturing a map made out of chocolate bunnies |
| 02:16.27 | DTRemenak | I was wondering how well it would stand up to the heat...a p4 would destroy it :) |
| 02:25.09 | shorty114 | how would i decode the hex code from the bzflag list server? |
| 02:25.19 | JeffM2501 | orange, looks like it has a cable :( |
| 02:25.28 | JeffM2501 | and it's 8$ more then a shuffle |
| 02:26.08 | JeffM2501 | the 1 gig is cheaper on sale |
| 02:26.08 | shorty114 | trepan: i'll play on that map :) |
| 02:26.17 | brlcad | JeffM2501: alas, thanks for the reminder, but I haven't been in the same room as those disks in over a week |
| 02:26.24 | brlcad | so not yet |
| 02:26.30 | brlcad | SportChick: pong |
| 02:26.42 | JeffM2501 | so saunter on in there :) |
| 02:26.48 | JeffM2501 | wiht a smug look |
| 02:26.59 | brlcad | heh, i'm at home now |
| 02:27.07 | JeffM2501 | and say something about how you love the smell of something in the morning |
| 02:27.10 | JeffM2501 | even tho it's night |
| 02:27.12 | brlcad | lappy toppy screeny goodness |
| 02:27.17 | JeffM2501 | then WHY are you brlcading? :) |
| 02:27.44 | JeffM2501 | did you see my comment about the sounds? |
| 02:27.47 | brlcad | yes |
| 02:27.55 | JeffM2501 | it's interesting |
| 02:28.00 | brlcad | very :) |
| 02:28.16 | JeffM2501 | is it using bzflags?, are they a common source? did BZFlag use them after they were both done? |
| 02:28.33 | JeffM2501 | the context of them sounds more reasonable in BZ |
| 02:28.46 | JeffM2501 | our flag pickup sound is there "mine" pickup sound |
| 02:30.27 | JeffM2501 | the "bump" sound may make a good jump sound. |
| 02:31.22 | SportChick | trepan: no |
| 02:31.50 | SportChick | brlcad: hiya - I'm in the middle of cooking dinner now (guests arrive in 30), but filter seems screwy all the sudden |
| 02:33.22 | brlcad | SportChick: it hasn't changed .. so screwyness is perhaps in the situation or the filter file? |
| 02:33.41 | brlcad | specific repeatable examples are "good" :) |
| 02:33.52 | sgk284 | SportChick, filter broken? |
| 02:34.13 | sgk284 | nevermind, just read |
| 02:34.17 | sgk284 | its good to read |
| 02:34.23 | shorty114 | no kidding ;) |
| 02:34.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/TODO: allow the user to set the global password from the command line |
| 02:35.28 | JeffM2501 | umm isn't that what -password is for? |
| 02:36.03 | sgk284 | lol |
| 02:36.15 | sgk284 | lan56, get out the undo button |
| 02:36.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: allow the user to set the global password from the command line |
| 02:36.26 | sgk284 | what are you doing!? |
| 02:36.40 | lan56 | then what did the one in TODO mean? |
| 02:37.51 | shorty114 | lol |
| 02:37.55 | JeffM2501 | by "command" line do you mean with a / command? |
| 02:38.29 | lan56 | what I added is an extension to CALLSIGN@SERVER:PORT, CALLSIGN:PASSWORD@SERVER:PORT |
| 02:38.38 | lan56 | :PASSWORD is optional of course |
| 02:38.41 | JeffM2501 | ohh the user password |
| 02:38.45 | JeffM2501 | got it |
| 02:38.53 | JeffM2501 | for some reason I was thinking server |
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| 02:38.59 | lan56 | so, keep it? |
| 02:39.04 | JeffM2501 | does it work? |
| 02:39.06 | JeffM2501 | is it clean? |
| 02:39.07 | lan56 | yes |
| 02:39.18 | JeffM2501 | will DTRemenak ever have to make any changes to it? |
| 02:39.23 | lan56 | :) no |
| 02:39.30 | lan56 | I tested it, it works |
| 02:39.31 | JeffM2501 | I've heard that before |
| 02:39.38 | lan56 | no, this time I am being honest |
| 02:39.47 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure you were honest last time |
| 02:40.01 | lan56 | alright, this time I am being honest that I am honest |
| 02:40.04 | JeffM2501 | honesty dosn't make it magicaly work every time tho :) |
| 02:40.26 | lan56 | well, I tested it, if you don't trust me, you can test it too, as for me, it worked |
| 02:40.27 | JeffM2501 | you don't exactly have a history of the cleanest fixes :) |
| 02:40.33 | lan56 | :) I know |
| 02:40.35 | JeffM2501 | naw I don't realy care :) |
| 02:40.43 | orange | JeffM2501: what did you mean by it has a cable? (the mp3 player) |
| 02:41.00 | JeffM2501 | to connect it to the PC it looks like you have to use a wire |
| 02:41.11 | orange | shuffle is wireless? |
| 02:41.19 | JeffM2501 | the suffle has the USB plug right on it, and charges from the USB |
| 02:41.29 | orange | oh |
| 02:41.34 | SportChick | brlcad: okay, don't know though. it's really odd. seems to have changed only since Nid did today's upgrade |
| 02:41.34 | JeffM2501 | no, it plugs in like a flash drive |
| 02:41.38 | SportChick | sgk284: apparently |
| 02:41.41 | JeffM2501 | just less to lug around |
| 02:41.43 | orange | gotcha |
| 02:41.53 | JeffM2501 | I find that a very handy feature. |
| 02:42.03 | SportChick | JeffM2501: we need to reschedule dinner still |
| 02:42.09 | JeffM2501 | that we do |
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| 02:52.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/AutoPilot.cxx: still hunt a zoned PZ tank if we have SW |
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| 02:53.59 | siimo | anyone run bzflag from debian sid |
| 02:56.34 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: ping |
| 02:56.38 | SportChick | ~seen Nidhoggr |
| 02:56.47 | ibot | nidhoggr is currently on #brlcad (17h 2m 23s) #bzflag (17h 2m 23s). Has said a total of 119 messages. Is idling for 4h 7m 39s |
| 02:56.47 | siimo | hmmf |
| 02:56.49 | sgk284 | sporty, you in secretplace right now? |
| 02:56.57 | siimo | i cant run it with aoss wrapper |
| 02:56.59 | SportChick | no, I'm making dinner |
| 02:57.06 | SportChick | guests are gonna be here any minute |
| 02:57.12 | sgk284 | the flags seem to be disappearing... there are supposed to be 200, there are like 15 |
| 02:57.20 | sgk284 | noh okay, then i wont bug ya :) |
| 02:57.59 | sgk284 | think it might be a bug with the no flag coloring thing.... |
| 02:58.06 | sgk284 | but i want to ask nid what he did first |
| 02:58.30 | sgk284 | i'll be in secretplace if anyone is lookign for me |
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| 03:31.45 | sgk284 | ping Nidhoggr |
| 03:32.11 | Silver[a] | reply from Silver[a], Nidhoggr unreachable |
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| 03:45.42 | Nidhoggr | sgk284: ? |
| 03:45.45 | Nidhoggr | just got home. |
| 03:46.09 | JBdiGriz | me too |
| 03:46.48 | Nidhoggr | hi JBdiGriz |
| 03:46.58 | Nidhoggr | we are having severe water problems in phoenix. |
| 03:47.01 | Nidhoggr | water not fit to drink |
| 03:47.09 | Nidhoggr | lots of restaraunts not serving water or ice |
| 03:51.30 | trepan | guess it'll have to be alcoholic beverages then, for your safety =) |
| 03:51.34 | Nidhoggr | so I had some bass ale with dinner. :) |
| 03:51.38 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha |
| 03:51.42 | Nidhoggr | you are a smart man, trepan |
| 03:52.31 | trepan | lies, all lies |
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| 03:54.41 | AndySchnopps | anyone habing odd lag probs in 2.0? |
| 03:55.38 | bryjen | like? |
| 03:56.11 | AndySchnopps | Well, I used to go to Fred Cods's 3x3 all the time w/o lag probs. As soon as popped 2.0 in, it lags horridly there and i get kicked. |
| 03:56.38 | cods | :( |
| 03:56.53 | AndySchnopps | oh there you are :) |
| 03:56.55 | cods | I don't know what is wrong with my map |
| 03:57.01 | bryjen | getting kicked more often may have to do with a glitch in the original 2.0 release |
| 03:57.04 | cods | so many problems reported for it.. |
| 03:57.12 | AndySchnopps | sorry cods... i used to love shooting at Nixter, but can't get on anymore |
| 03:57.28 | AndySchnopps | hmm...ok. i'll wait for a patch :) |
| 03:57.38 | trepan | AndySchnopps: how is your frame rate on that map? |
| 03:57.44 | cods | AndySchnopps: it's about the rendering ? (is it slow ?) |
| 03:57.45 | bryjen | cods, the new map kicks ass. its just too good :) |
| 03:59.13 | cods | however, except for additionnal transparency, and maybe some color change, nothing changed from 1.10 |
| 03:59.35 | bryjen | round obstacles |
| 03:59.41 | bryjen | cylinders |
| 03:59.45 | AndySchnopps | Very low Trepan... I hit 6 once |
| 03:59.49 | AndySchnopps | other maps seem ok |
| 03:59.50 | trepan | yup, bumps up the face count significantly |
| 04:00.09 | AndySchnopps | i checked the nvidia driver and kernel -- all ok :) |
| 04:00.09 | cods | bryjen: hmm, right.. |
| 04:00.56 | trepan | AndySchnopps: you have the depth buffer turned on? |
| 04:00.59 | AndySchnopps | lol... yes, there are a ton of normals for the polys, but that seems ok |
| 04:01.03 | AndySchnopps | full 24 bit |
| 04:01.07 | AndySchnopps | same affect in 8 |
| 04:01.11 | AndySchnopps | er, effect |
| 04:01.23 | cods | yes, in fact there is several arc objects.. Forgot about them. |
| 04:01.41 | cods | s/Forgot/I forgot/ |
| 04:01.52 | AndySchnopps | at first, I thought i dumped my glx, but it's ok. |
| 04:02.03 | cods | I can try to reduce arcs divisions |
| 04:02.21 | trepan | with your vid card? folks have also complained that radar smoothing is now causing big slowdowns |
| 04:02.26 | AndySchnopps | also, i moved all the OS threads to one cpu and bz to the other -- processor is not the prob :) |
| 04:02.42 | AndySchnopps | Well, I have a Geforce MX, 64 MB |
| 04:03.07 | trepan | think the complaints came from linux/GF4 users, but it might be worth trying |
| 04:03.38 | cods | I'm designing the map for GF4 (since it's what I'm using at home) |
| 04:03.51 | blast007 | AndySchnopps: does it work better in 32 or 16 bit? |
| 04:04.03 | AndySchnopps | for me, 32 runs fine. never run 16 |
| 04:04.08 | blast007 | k |
| 04:04.42 | AndySchnopps | trepan_away, also, i noticed that the frame rate hangup interfers w/ menu operation. |
| 04:04.42 | blast007 | I used to have to run at 16 bit to get acceleration with my Intel 810, but my GeForce FX could do 32 bit too |
| 04:04.54 | AndySchnopps | Oh yeah, GF are pretty nice... |
| 04:05.04 | blast007 | yup |
| 04:05.44 | AndySchnopps | WG is a nice addition :) |
| 04:06.10 | AndySchnopps | adding the 3d motion to the game really made playing a new strategy! |
| 04:06.12 | blast007 | I like Wings only if there one hop and if they have a slide time (momentum) |
| 04:06.25 | AndySchnopps | oh yeah... i'd like to see the ice have slide. |
| 04:06.49 | blast007 | physics drivers can do that |
| 04:06.58 | Pizbit | Lower the friction gives the effect. |
| 04:07.01 | blast007 | trepan had a map up for a while that demonstrated it |
| 04:07.04 | AndySchnopps | yup -- waiting to see it in action. :) |
| 04:07.19 | blast007 | :) |
| 04:07.41 | AndySchnopps | Actually, I like to see a time dialtion flag -- your passiage of time is speed dependant. |
| 04:09.26 | blast007 | Slippery ice: trepan.homelinux.net:1357 :D |
| 04:09.39 | blast007 | and some snowmen too |
| 04:09.40 | AndySchnopps | oooh |
| 04:09.52 | AndySchnopps | i'll drop by later tonight |
| 04:10.16 | AndySchnopps | crap -- gtg |
| 04:10.21 | AndySchnopps | have fun everyone :) |
| 04:10.27 | blast007 | cya :) |
| 04:12.22 | cods | I removed transparency for separators walls |
| 04:12.49 | cods | ah.. quitted.. |
| 04:18.38 | bryjen | it ran ok (not high fps, but played and looked good) on my home pc before. the Matrox video card in my work PC didn't like it so much ;) |
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| 04:19.15 | cods | I just restarted with transparency removed on river too. |
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| 04:23.21 | Nidhoggr | I have 214 flags configured. /flag show says they are all in place. there might be a dozen or so flags on the radar. |
| 04:23.40 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 04:23.40 | sgk284 | yea there is definitly a problem with flag placement |
| 04:23.47 | sgk284 | flags are vanishing |
| 04:24.11 | sgk284 | it may have to do with the ID flag being disabled, its supposed to enable anti-flag coloring code... but may not be updating the clients properly |
| 04:24.13 | blast007 | 98 vs 62 :) |
| 04:24.14 | Nidhoggr | a /flag reset unused doesn't fix. |
| 04:24.34 | sgk284 | Tupone ping |
| 04:24.36 | Nidhoggr | if people were saying not enough flags before, it was probably existing before that. |
| 04:25.03 | sgk284 | okay, it may not have anything to do with ID |
| 04:25.07 | brlcad | so sounds like a bug introduced to fix a different problem (100% cpu looking for impossible placements) |
| 04:25.14 | sgk284 | come to think of it, secretplace did seem empty for a while |
| 04:25.29 | Nidhoggr | you'd see 114 flags. now 214. |
| 04:25.42 | sgk284 | d |
| 04:27.10 | Daddo | brlcad: u have a lock on bzfuinst? trying to get fresh copy from cvs... |
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| 04:28.22 | brlcad | Daddo: I must be syncronized closely to sf anonymous copying |
| 04:28.35 | brlcad | it updates every 5 hours .. so just have to wait |
| 04:28.50 | Daddo | whaaaa :) |
| 04:28.58 | wegstar | ah.. no wonder |
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| 04:35.37 | bryjen | hehe |
| 04:36.53 | DTRemenak | why thank you, bryjen :) |
| 04:37.34 | DTRemenak | the other alternative was willIDieInstantlyIfISpawnHere |
| 04:37.46 | bryjen | that's a mouthful |
| 04:37.50 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 04:37.56 | Nidhoggr | DTRemenak: any idea why flags in 2.0 seem to disappear forever? 214 flags showing in /flag show and around a dozen on the field. |
| 04:38.24 | DTRemenak | Nidhoggr, nope. happen every time a flag dissapears or just sometimes? |
| 04:38.47 | Nidhoggr | hard to tell. |
| 04:38.58 | Nidhoggr | sgk284: any input? |
| 04:39.18 | DTRemenak | does a /flag reset unused help? |
| 04:39.21 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 04:39.30 | DTRemenak | that's not good |
| 04:39.33 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 04:44.47 | brlcad | perhaps related to tupone's "Fixing no -fb with jump and elevated bases" fixes |
| 04:45.43 | Nidhoggr | possible. |
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| 04:50.56 | lan56 | how come "-mp {0,4,4,0,0,0}" still sets a max of 200 rogues? |
| 04:51.27 | blast007 | why the { and } ? |
| 04:51.38 | blast007 | shouldn't need those |
| 04:51.43 | lan56 | let me try that then |
| 04:52.12 | jpa- | morning |
| 04:52.15 | lan56 | blast007: that works perfect, thanks |
| 04:53.28 | sgk284 | Nidhoggr, i'm back |
| 04:53.38 | sgk284 | it doesnt appear to happen everytime |
| 04:53.44 | Nidhoggr | ok |
| 04:53.52 | sgk284 | testing on a local server, all flags remain... :/ |
| 04:53.58 | Nidhoggr | semi here - semi not |
| 04:54.34 | sgk284 | might be something special about your setup, or the fact that i'm running original 2.0 code and something in CVS changed |
| 04:54.44 | sgk284 | brb |
| 04:54.50 | Nidhoggr | ok |
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| 05:04.43 | sgk284 | back |
| 05:04.53 | sgk284 | didn't brlcad say that some flag placement code had been added? |
| 05:12.24 | brlcad | no, someone modified the existing to bail out if it couldn't find a flag placement |
| 05:12.54 | brlcad | a week or so ago |
| 05:13.13 | brlcad | remember thinking that would probably cause a problem |
| 05:13.45 | brlcad | it's likely either that change, or tupone's recent -fb behavior changes (which I haven't read closely at all) |
| 05:19.56 | brlcad | sgk284: I have a vague recollection that it was you that added the early bail out? :) |
| 05:22.47 | sgk284 | who me? |
| 05:22.49 | sgk284 | :) |
| 05:22.54 | sgk284 | dont think so... :/ |
| 05:23.36 | sgk284 | havent touched the flag code, wouldnt even know where to start |
| 05:23.49 | sgk284 | well i'd know where to start but... i havent touched it... yet ;) |
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| 06:06.15 | QuantumBeep | Is there a comprehensive documentation on map syntax, server variables. what have you? I seem to be seeing people using features I don't see in the man pages or the wiki. |
| 06:07.06 | MeBigFatGuy | s/b man pages |
| 06:07.49 | QuantumBeep | I'm a little thick today. Could you restate? |
| 06:08.04 | MeBigFatGuy | i would think the map format would be in the man pages |
| 06:08.12 | MeBigFatGuy | what's missing? |
| 06:08.52 | QuantumBeep | It's in there, but I don't see how to add floor color. |
| 06:11.42 | JeffM2501 | just save a map that does it |
| 06:11.43 | JeffM2501 | and look |
| 06:14.23 | MeBigFatGuy | material |
| 06:14.23 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.23 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.23 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:36.02 | sgk284 | quantumbeeps server makes my client seg fault... |
| 06:36.10 | sgk284 | heh that cant be good |
| 06:36.35 | sgk284 | nevermind ... it mysteriously worked now |
| 06:36.37 | sgk284 | ignore me |
| 06:37.04 | sgk284 | actually ignore that lol its reproducible |
| 06:37.14 | sgk284 | join DTRemenak's server then join Quantumbeep's |
| 06:37.25 | sgk284 | *poof* you've seg faulted |
| 06:38.05 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 06:38.25 | DTRemenak | fun stuff :) |
| 06:38.28 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:38.36 | sgk284 | did you reproduce it? :) |
| 06:38.40 | DTRemenak | run'er through a debugger :) |
| 06:38.43 | DTRemenak | no, I'm doing physics |
| 06:38.46 | sgk284 | okay |
| 06:38.49 | sgk284 | :) |
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| 06:46.17 | sgk284 | any devs awake? |
| 06:46.26 | JBdiGriz | no |
| 06:46.31 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:49.52 | wegstar | heh |
| 06:50.28 | SportChick | sgk284: you htere? |
| 06:50.35 | sgk284 | yep |
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| 07:38.27 | creeperz | how do i change the permissions of a folder to allow regular user access? |
| 07:38.30 | creeperz | and not just root? |
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| 07:41.18 | DTRemenak | chmod a+rx |
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| 07:44.12 | creeperz | didnt work :-( |
| 07:44.18 | creeperz | root owns my home dir |
| 07:44.26 | creeperz | and i dont know how to change that |
| 07:45.28 | DTRemenak | well, you can chown it |
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| 07:53.27 | creeperz | wretched thing |
| 07:53.29 | creeperz | works :-) |
| 07:54.19 | DTRemenak | heh |
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| 08:07.16 | creeperz | ok |
| 08:07.20 | creeperz | im new to linux |
| 08:07.30 | creeperz | how do i change my screen res in fluxbox? |
| 08:07.54 | creeperz | 1024x768 is kidna gettin on my nerves |
| 08:08.04 | creeperz | i have the nvidia drivers installed... i hope |
| 08:08.17 | creeperz | at least they SHOULD have installed properly :-P |
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| 09:21.09 | creeperz | how do i switch back to fluxbox? |
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| 09:57.16 | creeperz | ahh |
| 09:57.18 | creeperz | back in fluxbox |
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| 10:19.09 | SilverFox | What does it mean when you see a bzdb var with "Ad" in it? Is that how much is "Ad"ded to a standard value? ie, _burrowSpeedAd, is this value added to _tankSpeed to create the speed the tank uses while it has the burrow flag? |
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| 11:32.45 | Chestal | SilverFOx: it's usually a factor |
| 12:10.05 | jpa- | afternoon |
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| 12:55.15 | jpa- | hello creepy |
| 13:00.23 | creeperz | heya |
| 13:00.28 | creeperz | just installed slackware |
| 13:00.35 | jpa- | good :) |
| 13:00.39 | creeperz | runnin on like 30 minutes of sleep |
| 13:00.45 | creeperz | lots of caffeine |
| 13:00.52 | creeperz | its 7 in the AM here |
| 13:01.04 | jpa- | so, you should be awake, anywa |
| 13:01.10 | creeperz | no |
| 13:01.13 | jpa- | yes |
| 13:01.16 | creeperz | not normally til around noon :-) |
| 13:01.30 | jpa- | and soon you should be on your way to school |
| 13:01.34 | creeperz | xfce is an awesome desktop manager |
| 13:01.38 | creeperz | noper |
| 13:01.39 | creeperz | sick |
| 13:01.47 | creeperz | flu is my friend |
| 13:01.49 | creeperz | and my enemy |
| 13:01.56 | creeperz | kinda weird how it works out |
| 13:02.02 | jpa- | kde is better desktop :) |
| 13:02.12 | creeperz | feh |
| 13:02.15 | jpa- | or not kde itself, but the software that comes along |
| 13:02.18 | menotume | huh? kde? |
| 13:02.23 | menotume | ahh |
| 13:02.26 | jpa- | kate, kig, quanta <3 |
| 13:02.29 | creeperz | gnome > KDE |
| 13:02.34 | menotume | yes |
| 13:02.35 | creeperz | :-P |
| 13:02.38 | menotume | gnome >>>>>> kde |
| 13:02.58 | jpa- | does gnome have transparent menus? |
| 13:03.06 | creeperz | time to find cool stuff for linux |
| 13:03.15 | creeperz | jpa-: im sure it does |
| 13:03.16 | menotume | whho wants transparent menus ? |
| 13:03.23 | creeperz | or maybe not |
| 13:03.23 | jpa- | me :) |
| 13:03.28 | menotume | okies |
| 13:03.34 | jpa- | i dont use menus.. |
| 13:03.37 | creeperz | jpa-: thats j00 though :-) |
| 13:03.45 | jpa- | but i open them just to see the transparency |
| 13:03.47 | creeperz | grr |
| 13:03.56 | creeperz | every time i go to download ET i get sidetracked! |
| 13:04.05 | creeperz | and start looking at other crap |
| 13:04.16 | creeperz | not im looking at freekin shoes! |
| 13:04.20 | creeperz | now* |
| 13:04.35 | creeperz | must focus |
| 13:04.43 | creeperz | until caffeine perks up |
| 13:05.13 | jpa- | you should have installed gentoo |
| 13:05.20 | creeperz | fem |
| 13:05.22 | creeperz | all looks |
| 13:05.37 | jpa- | you could have slept while it compiles kde |
| 13:05.47 | creeperz | ewww |
| 13:05.56 | creeperz | kde took like 20 min to install here :-( |
| 13:06.01 | creeperz | gnome took like 3 |
| 13:06.49 | creeperz | jpa-: oh yeah. well in kde can you make your mouse wrap across the screen?! :-) |
| 13:06.54 | jpa- | yes |
| 13:06.58 | creeperz | oh |
| 13:07.00 | creeperz | crap |
| 13:07.02 | creeperz | alright |
| 13:07.03 | jpa- | :) |
| 13:07.11 | creeperz | mister fancy pants |
| 13:07.21 | jpa- | in gnome, do you have interactive geometry program? |
| 13:08.30 | creeperz | great... |
| 13:08.34 | creeperz | have to wget ET |
| 13:08.37 | creeperz | oh well |
| 13:08.59 | jpa- | play bz |
| 13:09.06 | creeperz | feh |
| 13:09.12 | creeperz | jumpy tanks |
| 13:09.13 | creeperz | :-P |
| 13:09.28 | creeperz | tomorrow (later) i have to install my video drivers |
| 13:09.35 | creeperz | too tired to do it right now |
| 13:09.57 | jpa- | no you are not |
| 13:10.22 | creeperz | right now im trying to figure out how to change my resolution |
| 13:11.15 | jpa- | ctrl-alt-+/- |
| 13:11.36 | jpa- | or in kde, k->settings->screen->resolution and colordepth |
| 13:11.56 | creeperz | i dont want to go clear to gnome to change my res |
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| 13:12.03 | creeperz | lol |
| 13:12.06 | creeperz | alaska :-P |
| 13:12.26 | jpa- | hello thumper |
| 13:12.51 | Thumper_ | morning |
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| 14:52.34 | SportChick | DTRemenak: ping |
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| 15:02.02 | jpa- | hello |
| 15:03.06 | brlcad | hello |
| 15:03.41 | jpa- | do you know what the parameter of shear means? |
| 15:05.34 | brlcad | usually refers to a non homogeneous transformation |
| 15:05.42 | jpa- | yes |
| 15:05.44 | jpa- | i know it |
| 15:05.48 | brlcad | where you stretch it |
| 15:05.49 | jpa- | and how it does it |
| 15:05.53 | jpa- | well, no |
| 15:06.05 | jpa- | it is |_| -> /_/ |
| 15:06.09 | brlcad | right |
| 15:06.14 | brlcad | hehe, good example |
| 15:06.21 | jpa- | but, i mean how is the amount defined? |
| 15:06.41 | brlcad | a vector |
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| 15:07.00 | sgk284 | g' morning |
| 15:07.11 | jpa- | morning |
| 15:07.13 | brlcad | 0 0 0 is default so 1 0 0 would be a shear down X |
| 15:07.44 | jpa- | "shear down" ? |
| 15:08.06 | brlcad | shear along the X axis |
| 15:08.13 | jpa- | ok, and how much? |
| 15:08.42 | brlcad | just have to play with it .. don't know if it's normalized or not |
| 15:08.53 | jpa- | ok |
| 15:08.59 | jpa- | i will, thx |
| 15:09.05 | Nidhoggr | hi sgk284 |
| 15:09.07 | jpa- | ~brlcad++ |
| 15:09.11 | brlcad | i'd imagine it is, or at least partially is .. so 1 is 1 width 2 is 2x width, etc |
| 15:09.30 | sgk284 | there he is:) |
| 15:09.59 | brlcad | I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work too .. ;) I've not seen shearing in bz yet :) |
| 15:10.06 | SportChick | Nidhoggr, gmorning |
| 15:10.10 | SportChick | hiya sgk |
| 15:10.11 | Nidhoggr | hi SportChick :) |
| 15:10.14 | brlcad | but I do see the params in the file spec so who knows what treppy was up to |
| 15:10.15 | SportChick | brlcad: gmorning |
| 15:10.18 | Nidhoggr | good morning, brlcad |
| 15:10.20 | sgk284 | morning sporty |
| 15:10.20 | brlcad | SportChick: g'morning |
| 15:10.25 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: did you see my message about the filter |
| 15:10.29 | Nidhoggr | yeah. |
| 15:10.42 | Nidhoggr | let me check the config file just in case. |
| 15:10.46 | brlcad | howdy Nidhoggr sgk284 and everyone else too :) |
| 15:10.48 | SportChick | sgk284 and brlcad said that no changes were made |
| 15:11.04 | SportChick | it's not filtering much but most of what it IS filtering are perfectly good words |
| 15:11.50 | SportChick | brlcad: thanks for helping last night -s orry for not being around/responsive more..we had dinner guest |
| 15:11.52 | SportChick | s |
| 15:12.01 | brlcad | i never noticed |
| 15:12.07 | SportChick | :) |
| 15:12.10 | SportChick | ~brlcad++ |
| 15:15.10 | Nidhoggr | <05/01/25|12:58:08> Loading /conf/multilingualSwearList.txt |
| 15:15.10 | Nidhoggr | <05/01/25|12:58:08> ............... |
| 15:15.10 | Nidhoggr | <05/01/25|12:58:08> Loaded 1445 words |
| 15:15.20 | Nidhoggr | it is loading the list. |
| 15:15.33 | SportChick | is the list somehow corrupted? |
| 15:15.36 | Nidhoggr | it might not be loading our own list. |
| 15:15.48 | SportChick | it's filtering "rules" but not "f--k" |
| 15:16.02 | Nidhoggr | it looks fine |
| 15:16.04 | SportChick | it also still filters puzzle |
| 15:16.19 | SportChick | brlcad: help! other ideas? |
| 15:16.31 | Nidhoggr | it is a new list (imported from cvs) |
| 15:16.40 | SportChick | how new? |
| 15:16.42 | Nidhoggr | I've had our own list for a long time |
| 15:16.48 | Nidhoggr | about a week maybe. |
| 15:16.50 | SportChick | days or since 2.0? |
| 15:17.13 | Nidhoggr | since brlcad removed "tit" |
| 15:17.15 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:17.50 | Nidhoggr | let me put back the old list and restart. see if it's the list. |
| 15:18.00 | SportChick | ok |
| 15:19.52 | jpa- | ~dict shear |
| 15:20.35 | SportChick | !weather 90277 |
| 15:20.35 | guu | SportChick: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California is 59°F (6:50 AM PST on January 26, 2005). Conditions: Light Rain Mist. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 59°F. Pressure: 29.97 in (1015 hPa). Visibility: 3.0 miles (4.8 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 15:23.32 | nvz | if a server had rain enabled would it appear as an option on the server listing screen? |
| 15:23.54 | bryjen | no |
| 15:24.12 | nvz | I am trying to find one with rain :P |
| 15:25.23 | bryjen | its snowing on DTR's two castles |
| 15:26.09 | Thumper_ | nvz - you can go to the olympic server and I can turn rain on for you... |
| 15:28.19 | brlcad | SportChick: I'll debug it later tonight to see if I can figure out what's going on |
| 15:28.35 | nvz | I looked where bryjen suggested |
| 15:28.40 | nvz | its pretty cool |
| 15:28.45 | SportChick | brlcad: thanks - Nid is trying to see if loading our old list fixes the problem |
| 15:28.47 | sgk284 | anyone around running a stock 2.0 build and wanna try to reproduce a seg fault? |
| 15:29.16 | sgk284 | hint: join DTR's server then join QuantumBeeps |
| 15:29.17 | jpa- | trepan_away: be present |
| 15:30.27 | Nidhoggr | is the swear list reloaded with /reload? |
| 15:30.32 | jpa- | trepan_away: or nothing |
| 15:30.38 | Nidhoggr | I thought it was, but just making sure. |
| 15:31.05 | brlcad | I don't think it is unless someone added it |
| 15:31.10 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 15:31.50 | nvz | I got 3 that say DTR and none that say QuantumBeep |
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| 15:32.26 | nvz | I dont think being specific is a bad thing when reporting bugs |
| 15:32.58 | sgk284 | nvz, you got 3 what? |
| 15:33.27 | nvz | servers in the list that say DTR |
| 15:34.05 | sgk284 | oh okay, maybe quantumbeep took his down :/ |
| 15:34.08 | sgk284 | thanks for trying |
| 15:34.13 | sgk284 | ~bzflist |
| 15:35.35 | nvz | only problem I had so far was on hepcat.tybox.net, when picking up a burrow flag I get Autokicked for moving too fast.. the burrow flag makes me move like 800% faster |
| 15:36.10 | Nidhoggr | server restarted/old list in place. |
| 15:36.23 | SportChick | thanks Nid |
| 15:36.29 | Nidhoggr | np |
| 15:36.33 | SportChick | so the problem must be int he new list somewhere |
| 15:36.37 | SportChick | ? |
| 15:37.35 | Nidhoggr | it works now? |
| 15:37.43 | SportChick | oh, dunno |
| 15:37.49 | SportChick | thought you were saying it did |
| 15:37.58 | Nidhoggr | just saying I restarted, not tested. :) |
| 15:41.28 | nvz | can you still see shots on radar in 2.0? mine doesnt show em |
| 15:41.48 | nvz | this game is like impossible to play when you cannot look any direction but straight ahead |
| 15:42.05 | Pimpinulla | we can see them |
| 15:42.09 | nvz | I can dodge fire I dont even know is comming :/ |
| 15:42.24 | Nidhoggr | nvz, that's what the radar is for. |
| 15:42.24 | nvz | maybe its an option I got turned off |
| 15:42.28 | SportChick | brlcad: if someone says the same swearword twice in a row (without a space), it's completely in the clear |
| 15:42.39 | nvz | radar only shows tanks not fire right now |
| 15:42.41 | Nidhoggr | in the options look for radar shot length. |
| 15:42.44 | SportChick | so, e.g., "f--k" is filtered, but "f--kf--k" is not |
| 15:43.25 | Pimpinulla | SportChick: don't filter, kane them leave |
| 15:43.32 | nvz | swear filtering is counter-productive IMHO |
| 15:43.34 | brlcad | SportChick: i wondered how long it'd be till someone figured that out |
| 15:43.37 | Pimpinulla | s/kane/make |
| 15:43.43 | SportChick | brlcad: not long |
| 15:43.52 | nvz | if you dont want people to swear, best thing is to warn/kick/ban |
| 15:44.04 | SportChick | nvz, we do - but the filter is a failsafe |
| 15:44.06 | brlcad | SportChick: yes, if they are actively trying to get around it, best to immediately kick |
| 15:44.12 | nvz | swearing is just slang, and it differrs by region and belifs |
| 15:44.53 | nvz | you are fighting a loosing battle, that really encourages it more than it prevents |
| 15:44.55 | SportChick | nvz, our server is very strict. every one who plays there regularly knows it and most are fine (or they leave). We have lots of young kids who play there |
| 15:44.59 | Nidhoggr | people allow their kids play on my servers because they know we filter words and warn regarding swearing. |
| 15:45.29 | Nidhoggr | we've developed a strong trust relationship with these parents because we do filter. |
| 15:45.57 | nvz | heh, I get the idea, I am just telling you blocking it invites people to swear and come up with more creative ways of doing it |
| 15:46.20 | Nidhoggr | with over 40 admins for the servers, they don't get away with it for long. :) |
| 15:46.31 | nvz | you tell your kid he cant say f--k and he says freak |
| 15:46.45 | nvz | the word has no real meaning to begin with, its the context |
| 15:47.19 | Nidhoggr | yeah, but it causes kids to go up to parents and say "what does f* mean?" i don't want to be a source for that sort of "education". |
| 15:47.23 | nvz | yeah banning people will get a message across there is a no-tolerance policy |
| 15:47.32 | nvz | filtering shows tolerance |
| 15:48.02 | Nidhoggr | filtering keeps honest people honest. it's not for the person who wants to get around it. |
| 15:48.29 | nvz | I suppose |
| 15:48.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Nidhoggr] by ChanServ |
| 15:48.37 | sgk284 | heh |
| 15:48.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Nidhoggr] by ChanServ |
| 15:48.48 | brlcad | there will always be plenty of ways to get around it, it prevents the emotional mishap |
| 15:49.26 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:49.26 | brlcad | and I actually appreciate folks getting around it.. gives me something to do :) |
| 15:49.36 | Nidhoggr | brlcad: :) |
| 15:49.48 | sgk284 | ~brlcad++ |
| 15:50.03 | nvz | Nidhoggr: make up your mind +v and +o are mutually exclusive :) |
| 15:50.23 | Nidhoggr | nvz, I didn't do it. services did. :) |
| 15:50.26 | brlcad | already have to modify it to handle multiple suffixes, and (now) pattern repetition |
| 15:50.39 | nvz | yeah I wasnt even aware chanserv did +v |
| 15:50.59 | brlcad | e.g. asslyness isn't filtered due to the 2 suffixes :) |
| 15:51.07 | Nidhoggr | hahahahahahaha |
| 15:51.25 | nvz | prefix? |
| 15:52.12 | Nidhoggr | SportChick: we should have a test server up all the time that we can test the filter and other stuff on. |
| 15:52.54 | nvz | oh well computing in here in the daytime is futile.. too much sunlight.. going to reattach in the other room :-/ |
| 15:53.06 | sgk284 | cat /usr/share/dict/words > brlcad |
| 15:53.12 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha |
| 15:53.33 | Nidhoggr | a friend of mine has a perl script that assembles compound swear words. |
| 15:53.35 | nvz | thats FN abuse, and would probably flood him offline |
| 15:53.43 | sgk284 | lol |
| 15:56.04 | Nidhoggr | I walked in this morning to find a 6v ups/alarm battery on my desk with a note telling me to replace my home alarm battery. |
| 15:56.19 | Nidhoggr | the alarm company must have called work to let them know it was croaking. |
| 15:56.54 | sgk284 | heh |
| 15:57.09 | Nidhoggr | it's nice to have such a tight network of support. |
| 15:57.11 | Pimpinulla | what happened to parseCommand() ? |
| 15:57.38 | Pimpinulla | not in bzfs.cxx anymore? |
| 15:57.41 | Chestal | ~bzflist |
| 15:57.43 | bryjen | or its a dead battery, and someone's planning on breaking in |
| 15:58.07 | Nidhoggr | heh. |
| 15:58.22 | Nidhoggr | it's my workmate, Bill. he already knows my alarm code. :) |
| 15:58.58 | bryjen | ah, but that's what he _wants_ you to think ;) |
| 15:59.29 | Nidhoggr | the note has an exclamation point on it, so he must have been called by the alarm company more than once. :) |
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| 16:14.45 | trepan | jpa-: "be present, or nothing" ? |
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| 16:20.03 | nvz | Nidhoggr: your "work mate"'s last name isnt gates is it? |
| 16:20.07 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 16:20.21 | nvz | good |
| 16:20.21 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:20.34 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha |
| 16:20.44 | Nidhoggr | hrm. weather is getting icky here. |
| 16:20.52 | Nidhoggr | ~weather kphx |
| 16:22.02 | nvz | its a tit bit nipply here in Lake Dallas today |
| 16:22.29 | nvz | I am boiling some potatos right now.. will soon be frying them up with some eggs |
| 16:22.41 | Nidhoggr | yum |
| 16:22.52 | Nidhoggr | I'm having my second cup of hot cocoa. |
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| 16:24.41 | Nidhoggr | ut oh. |
| 16:24.52 | jpa- | trepan: i don't need you |
| 16:24.59 | jpa- | trepan: you are useless, anyway :) |
| 16:25.12 | Nidhoggr | ~jpa--- |
| 16:25.17 | Nidhoggr | ~trepan++ |
| 16:25.19 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:25.36 | jpa- | hmph |
| 16:25.40 | nvz | I've been eating these eggs & potato all week.. I got the whole upstairs stinkin, if you know what I mean |
| 16:25.43 | jpa- | ~karma jpa- |
| 16:25.43 | ibot | jpa- has karma of 2 |
| 16:25.53 | jpa- | Nidhoggr: how mean of you :S |
| 16:26.01 | Nidhoggr | ~karma trepan |
| 16:26.01 | ibot | trepan has karma of 86 |
| 16:26.03 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:26.06 | trepan | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 16:26.10 | trepan | ~jpa-?? |
| 16:26.14 | JBdiGriz | trepan is about as useful as a hole in the head |
| 16:26.28 | jpa- | JBdiGriz: oh, that is a much said |
| 16:26.39 | jpa- | i couldn't live without my mouth |
| 16:26.47 | Nidhoggr | just going to say. :) |
| 16:26.50 | JBdiGriz | ~dict trepan |
| 16:27.48 | bryjen | !dict trepan |
| 16:27.51 | guu | bryjen: web1913 and wn responded: web1913: Trepan \Tre*pan"\, v. t. To insnare; to trap; to trapan. Guards even of a dozen men were silently trepanned from their stations. --De Quincey; web1913: Trepan \Tre*pan"\, n. [See {Trapan}.] 1. A snare; a trapan. Snares and trepans that common life lays in its way. --South. 2. a deceiver; a cheat. He had been from the beginning a spy and a trepan. (3 more messages) |
| 16:28.57 | Pimpinulla | server commands used to be sorted out in handleCommand by checking for a leading "/" in a MsgMessage, now this seems to have changed |
| 16:29.15 | Pimpinulla | where do i have to search for that mow? |
| 16:29.19 | Pimpinulla | now |
| 16:29.46 | trepan | Pimpinulla: sendPlayerMessage() |
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| 16:30.02 | Pimpinulla | oh |
| 16:30.03 | trepan | or search for "// check for a server command" |
| 16:30.12 | bryjen | trepan snuck off with them! ;) |
| 16:31.02 | Pimpinulla | grr doxygen hasn't linked it |
| 16:31.16 | SportyGal | ~trepan++ |
| 16:31.22 | SportyGal | ~jpa--- |
| 16:31.28 | jpa- | hmphmh |
| 16:32.08 | jpa- | i won't finish my 3d transformations tutorial unless you return my karma! |
| 16:32.23 | SportyGal | Nidhoggr: I, of course, missed everything after the last thing I said in relation to the language filter |
| 16:32.28 | SportyGal | jpa-: doesn't bug me any |
| 16:32.34 | bryjen | ~jpa--- |
| 16:32.43 | jpa- | :( |
| 16:32.44 | trepan | ~dict karma |
| 16:32.48 | Nidhoggr | jpa- was dissing trepan. |
| 16:32.48 | bryjen | one cannot blackmail for karma |
| 16:32.59 | jpa- | ~karma jpa- |
| 16:32.59 | ibot | jpa- has neutral karma |
| 16:33.00 | SportyGal | Nidhoggr: I SAW that much |
| 16:33.12 | SportyGal | I'm talking about when my power went out at home |
| 16:33.30 | Nidhoggr | aaah... hrm... you didn't miss much after that. |
| 16:34.34 | jpa- | Note to self: never diss trepan, he has many simple-minded fans :) |
| 16:34.40 | trepan | 1. don't be here |
| 16:34.46 | SportyGal | ~jpa--- |
| 16:34.46 | trepan | 2. nevermind what i was saying |
| 16:34.51 | Nidhoggr | ~jpa--- |
| 16:35.22 | jpa- | trepan: it ment, that i wanted to know about shear, but then suddenly i understood everything and didn't need you anymore |
| 16:35.35 | trepan | jpa-: so #2, cool |
| 16:36.53 | jpa- | now i am negative, so i must start gaining on timriker :) |
| 16:37.05 | jpa- | so i should probably diss trepan even more :) |
| 16:37.08 | jpa- | ~karma timriker |
| 16:37.08 | ibot | timriker has karma of -661 |
| 16:37.18 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha |
| 16:37.24 | Nidhoggr | ~timriker++ |
| 16:37.43 | trepan | bryjen: what a sad state that would be |
| 16:38.12 | jpa- | bryjen: you would understand how impossible it would be if you did |
| 16:38.53 | brlcad | ~jpa-++ |
| 16:38.59 | brlcad | i liked the tutorial :) |
| 16:39.01 | jpa- | brlcad: :) |
| 16:39.11 | Nidhoggr | link to tutorial? |
| 16:39.15 | jpa- | brlcad: new one will follow when i get my +3 back :) |
| 16:39.20 | bryjen | cause a paradox and negate all reality :( |
| 16:39.26 | jpa- | Nidhoggr: http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/ |
| 16:39.53 | Nidhoggr | oh, I saw that yesterday. cool. |
| 16:39.59 | Nidhoggr | ~jpa-++ |
| 16:40.23 | menotume | ~jpa-++ |
| 16:40.33 | brlcad | there, now get back to work! |
| 16:40.42 | menotume | :) |
| 16:40.47 | jpa- | writing as fast as i can :) |
| 16:40.50 | Nidhoggr | hahahahaha |
| 16:40.57 | jpa- | dammit |
| 16:41.06 | jpa- | almost made a bad mistake :) |
| 16:41.28 | jpa- | "As you may have understood from previous examples, order does not matter." |
| 16:41.29 | brlcad | as opposed to a good mistake? |
| 16:44.08 | bryjen | nothing ruins an evil plan like a good mistake ;) |
| 16:48.13 | jpa- | ~karma jpa- |
| 16:48.13 | ibot | jpa- has karma of 1 |
| 16:48.19 | jpa- | still missing some :) |
| 16:49.31 | jpa- | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/transformations.php |
| 16:50.35 | jpa- | hmm |
| 16:50.39 | jpa- | one image missing |
| 16:51.58 | brlcad | ~jpa--- |
| 16:52.04 | brlcad | for not using a proper cad package like brl-cad |
| 16:52.11 | brlcad | ~jpa-++ |
| 16:52.18 | brlcad | ~jpa-++ |
| 16:52.23 | jpa- | like that :) |
| 16:52.26 | brlcad | for the coolness anyways :) |
| 16:52.42 | jpa- | kig is a proper cad-package |
| 16:53.04 | brlcad | bah |
| 16:53.18 | Pimpinulla | nice tutorial jpa- |
| 16:53.31 | jpa- | now the shearing image works, too :) |
| 16:53.35 | Pimpinulla | would have saved me some time |
| 16:53.55 | Pimpinulla | ~jpa- ++ |
| 16:54.07 | brlcad | jpa-: did you actually verify that it really shears in bz? |
| 16:54.26 | jpa- | brlcad: yes |
| 16:54.33 | brlcad | wicked |
| 16:54.42 | brlcad | ~trepan++ |
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| 16:54.52 | creeperz | jpa-: wanna help me figure out why my drivers wont install? |
| 16:55.01 | jpa- | brlcad: i made a lot of accurate measurements to know how it does it :) |
| 16:55.14 | jpa- | creeperz: nope |
| 16:55.14 | creeperz | alright |
| 16:55.19 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, in the room with the disks yet? :) |
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| 16:55.52 | jpa- | brlcad: eww, you are not freeware :S |
| 16:56.29 | jpa- | or hmm |
| 16:56.43 | jpa- | you are |
| 16:56.54 | jpa- | but.. why is there "purchasing" stuff on the site |
| 16:57.01 | jpa- | or |
| 16:57.03 | jpa- | oh |
| 16:57.06 | jpa- | ok, i'm stupid |
| 16:57.12 | JeffM2501 | things can be licensed under more then one license :) |
| 16:57.30 | jpa- | and i should read the whole sentence :) |
| 16:57.41 | jpa- | "Purchase.............support or training" |
| 16:58.03 | jpa- | ~karma jpa- |
| 16:58.03 | ibot | jpa- has karma of 2 |
| 16:58.09 | jpa- | hpmh |
| 16:58.24 | creeperz | ~karma creeperz |
| 16:58.24 | ibot | creeperz has neutral karma |
| 16:58.29 | creeperz | wowza |
| 16:58.35 | creeperz | ~creeperz-- |
| 16:58.42 | creeperz | :-P |
| 16:58.50 | jpa- | ~karma creeperz |
| 16:58.50 | ibot | creeperz has neutral karma |
| 16:58.57 | jpa- | you can't karma yourself :) |
| 16:59.10 | creeperz | i found out :-P |
| 16:59.12 | jpa- | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "brlcad". |
| 16:59.19 | jpa- | so brlcad sucks, anyway |
| 16:59.47 | JeffM2501 | hmm there are no emerge builds for "yourmomma" ether.. |
| 16:59.52 | JeffM2501 | so. she... must...? |
| 16:59.59 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 17:00.11 | jpa- | ~jeffm2501-- |
| 17:00.17 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 17:00.38 | JeffM2501 | ~jpa--- |
| 17:00.41 | bryjen | ibot sucks |
| 17:00.42 | ibot | If you give me $5 I'll do more than that! |
| 17:01.05 | nvz | c'mon now |
| 17:01.14 | creeperz | ewwww |
| 17:01.15 | creeperz | :-) |
| 17:02.08 | jpa- | hmph.. this day has been bad for my karma |
| 17:03.36 | jpa- | bryjen: i forgive you, you can't take responsibility for your actions, anyway |
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| 17:06.09 | Nidhoggr | ~bzflist |
| 17:06.11 | jpa- | brlcad: ok, compiling brlcad, do i get my karma back now? :) |
| 17:07.17 | Nidhoggr | bzfs is taking 11% of the CPU, which it hasn't done before. |
| 17:07.42 | JeffM2501 | it filtering? |
| 17:07.52 | Nidhoggr | it always has. |
| 17:08.00 | SportyGal | ~jpa--- |
| 17:08.14 | JeffM2501 | just this morning? |
| 17:08.30 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:08.33 | JeffM2501 | there are logs :) |
| 17:08.38 | JeffM2501 | how did your dinner go? |
| 17:09.19 | jpa- | SportyGal: its afternoon |
| 17:09.25 | jpa- | or evening, actually |
| 17:10.00 | jpa- | and you must just understand growing evilness |
| 17:10.15 | jpa- | i can't help it from getting out sometimes :) |
| 17:10.51 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: dinner was great! I made crab/corn chowder, chicken scallopini and fruit pizza |
| 17:11.00 | SportyGal | the fruit pizza was a new recipe, but pretty darn good |
| 17:11.07 | SportyGal | jpa-: it's morning |
| 17:11.12 | JeffM2501 | jpa-, try decaf |
| 17:11.19 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's morning |
| 17:11.20 | jpa- | JeffM2501: decaf? |
| 17:11.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:11.46 | bryjen | coffee without caffeine |
| 17:11.50 | JeffM2501 | there are many fine blends these days |
| 17:11.52 | jpa- | fruits in pizza kinda ruins the whole idea of pizza as unhealthy, good tasting snack |
| 17:12.06 | JeffM2501 | you have cafinated pizza |
| 17:12.08 | jpa- | JeffM2501: i don't drick coffee :S |
| 17:12.13 | JeffM2501 | that's probably your problem |
| 17:12.22 | jpa- | maybe |
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| 17:12.31 | jpa- | but probably not the only one :) |
| 17:13.08 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure there are more |
| 17:13.56 | jpa- | well, i thought so too |
| 17:14.05 | jpa- | but, if you think so, it can't be right |
| 17:14.26 | JeffM2501 | yup I'm allways wrong |
| 17:14.28 | JeffM2501 | every time |
| 17:14.36 | JeffM2501 | don't even know why people listen to me |
| 17:15.01 | bryjen | even in saying that you're always wrong? |
| 17:15.06 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 17:15.08 | jpa- | bryjen: just about to say |
| 17:15.17 | JeffM2501 | this sentance is false |
| 17:15.57 | bryjen | you missed the statement about paradoxes and breaking reality, didn't you? |
| 17:16.12 | jpa- | but, obviously, i can't practise my evilness on this channel |
| 17:16.27 | JeffM2501 | why would I wish to? |
| 17:16.29 | jpa- | people take everything too seriously and destroy my karma |
| 17:16.47 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, I prety much am a paradox, so may as well run with it |
| 17:17.05 | JeffM2501 | ohh we can destroy more then your karma if you wish |
| 17:17.12 | jpa- | like? |
| 17:17.14 | JeffM2501 | ibot karma shorty114 |
| 17:17.14 | ibot | shorty114 has karma of -479 |
| 17:18.10 | gina | ~gina-- |
| 17:18.16 | gina | heh |
| 17:18.36 | gina | ~gina------------- |
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| 17:21.11 | bryjen | yeesh. "Disconnect from network" shoud not be on the context menu for a user to user tab |
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| 17:28.29 | Martok | Hey t-s. |
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| 17:32.19 | jpa- | eww |
| 17:32.25 | jpa- | brlcad looks bad |
| 17:32.37 | jpa- | there is no brlcad-binary, just billion other ones |
| 17:32.54 | JeffM2501 | is that all you do is complain? |
| 17:33.09 | jpa- | somedays, yes |
| 17:33.10 | JeffM2501 | if you don't like it then just don't use it. |
| 17:33.13 | JeffM2501 | and be done |
| 17:33.28 | jpa- | hmph |
| 17:34.01 | jpa- | "use brlcad" "don't use it" |
| 17:34.15 | jpa- | i just can't find docs anywhere |
| 17:34.24 | jpa- | and brlman does not give any help |
| 17:34.27 | brlcad | jpa-: it wasn't made to look pretty |
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| 17:34.53 | brlcad | jpa-: http://brlcad.org has docs and there are manpages for almost all of the tools |
| 17:35.04 | JeffM2501 | jpa-, everything anyone tells you to do is an option, you don't have to listen to any of them. |
| 17:35.11 | jpa- | hmm? no interface? |
| 17:35.13 | JeffM2501 | even that statement :) |
| 17:35.33 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, in the room with the disks yet? ;) |
| 17:35.55 | brlcad | and it was never written to be a single app .. it's a suite of tools -- akin to unix cmd tools |
| 17:36.13 | brlcad | JeffM2501: not even in the right building now.. but there may be some in here somewhere |
| 17:36.28 | jpa- | hmm |
| 17:36.33 | brlcad | jpa-: the closest to what you're looking for is going to be the modeler, mged |
| 17:36.39 | jpa- | ok :) |
| 17:37.19 | jpa- | how obvious name, would have been last one i would have tried :) |
| 17:37.43 | brlcad | jpa-: actually if you look at the file sizes, it's by far the largest |
| 17:38.01 | brlcad | and if you'd read the Documents, it points you there first :P |
| 17:38.19 | jpa- | documents that i didn't find :) |
| 17:38.27 | SportyGal | jpa-: fruit in this pizza makes it a more unhealthy tasty snack! http://pie.allrecipes.com/AZ/FruitPizzaII.asp |
| 17:38.33 | jpa- | was wandering in brlcad.com etc :) |
| 17:38.44 | brlcad | suggest reading "Overview of BRL-CAD" and "Introduction to MGED" on http://brlcad.org .. under the Documents section.. |
| 17:38.55 | brlcad | ahh, brlcad.com is the commercial support |
| 17:39.04 | brlcad | you give them money and they'll answer your questions |
| 17:39.35 | jpa- | i won't, since i will just ask nicely and you will answer :) |
| 17:39.58 | JeffM2501 | the history behind the sounds is bugging me :) |
| 17:40.16 | JeffM2501 | there is obviously some link between them that has gone unspoken |
| 17:41.06 | brlcad | probably is |
| 17:41.21 | brlcad | e-mail crs ;) |
| 17:41.47 | jpa- | hmm |
| 17:42.06 | jpa- | all that i can get by trying everything is "no database loaded" |
| 17:42.13 | jpa- | maybe i should read documentation :) |
| 17:42.45 | brlcad | opendb test.g |
| 17:42.52 | brlcad | yes you should :) |
| 17:43.01 | jpa- | i have to type commands? :S |
| 17:43.13 | brlcad | no, you can use the menu should that be your cup of tea |
| 17:44.19 | JeffM2501 | Iron works better then Tin at dispursing raido energy |
| 17:44.38 | creeperz | radio energy? |
| 17:44.45 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 17:44.50 | JeffM2501 | raido waves are light |
| 17:44.53 | JeffM2501 | with energy |
| 17:44.54 | creeperz | what abnout copper? |
| 17:45.03 | JeffM2501 | coper reflects |
| 17:45.05 | jpa- | µMetal is better :) |
| 17:45.08 | creeperz | ohhh |
| 17:45.13 | creeperz | i see what youre saying :-) |
| 17:45.17 | JeffM2501 | if the charge is put INTO the copper it conducts well |
| 17:45.37 | JeffM2501 | but if it's from a EM wave, then iron absorbs and transfers the energy very well |
| 17:45.40 | creeperz | yes |
| 17:45.52 | creeperz | but other than that it doenst let any radio waves through |
| 17:45.52 | JeffM2501 | it's the primary material in stealithing up stuff |
| 17:46.11 | DTRemenak | SportyGal, pong (time=13,800,000 ms) |
| 17:46.13 | JeffM2501 | iron is feric, it will react to a number of difrent EM waves |
| 17:46.24 | JeffM2501 | it can be used to generate them as well |
| 17:46.44 | jpa- | brlcad: hmm.. that program is just like kig, except that kig is easier :) |
| 17:48.05 | brlcad | jpa-: familiarity is all |
| 17:49.13 | jpa- | on the other hand, it is just as difficult as all cad packages |
| 17:49.14 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: ? |
| 17:49.52 | DTRemenak | [06:54] <SportChick> DTRemenak: ping |
| 17:49.54 | JeffM2501 | my cad package is easy |
| 17:50.34 | brlcad | uni was relatively easy too .. |
| 17:50.44 | jpa- | sketchup is easy :) |
| 17:51.04 | JeffM2501 | ours even has a spreadsheet interface, talented user can make complex shapes in seconds. |
| 17:51.11 | brlcad | bah, drafting tools are useless to me |
| 17:51.48 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: that was HOURS ago |
| 17:52.11 | DTRemenak | SportyGal, thus the (time=13,800,000 ms) :) |
| 17:52.11 | brlcad | though someone was talking about linking brl-cad's sketch primitive to qcad |
| 17:52.16 | brlcad | that should be interesting |
| 17:52.19 | jpa- | brlcad: well, for me, accurate plans are not as necessary, i can't make accurate parts anyway :) |
| 17:52.38 | JeffM2501 | what CAM package you use? |
| 17:53.05 | DTRemenak | I always try to return pings, even if they're a little late :) |
| 17:53.08 | brlcad | we don't do any cam or drafting |
| 17:53.09 | *** join/#bzflag gina (~gigi@19.10-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:53.14 | brlcad | all solid modeling |
| 17:53.16 | JeffM2501 | no I mean for jpa- |
| 17:53.19 | bryjen | ~ 13800000 / 1000 / 3600 |
| 17:53.20 | ibot | 3.833333333333 |
| 17:53.24 | JeffM2501 | I know what YOUR thing does |
| 17:53.27 | brlcad | :) |
| 17:53.30 | JeffM2501 | we take your crap :) |
| 17:53.37 | brlcad | heh |
| 17:53.39 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: hehe, but now I don't even remember WHY the ping |
| 17:53.40 | JeffM2501 | how do you make parts then? |
| 17:53.54 | jpa- | with dremel and superglue? |
| 17:53.54 | brlcad | JeffM2501: that's interesting .. you read .g's or .asc's? |
| 17:53.54 | DTRemenak | SportyGal, well that's not _my_ problem, is it? :) |
| 17:54.16 | JeffM2501 | asc sounds famialar |
| 17:54.19 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: yes! you need to be more prompt! I mean, c'mon! What's a college boy like you doing sleeping past 6AM?! |
| 17:54.20 | SportyGal | ;) |
| 17:54.24 | DTRemenak | hahaha |
| 17:54.28 | JeffM2501 | I don't reemmber anymore |
| 17:54.37 | JeffM2501 | soo many formats |
| 17:54.41 | gina | ~ 1 / 0 |
| 17:54.42 | brlcad | yeah |
| 17:54.54 | gina | ~ 1 / 1 |
| 17:54.56 | ibot | 1 |
| 17:54.56 | JeffM2501 | ACIS, Parasolid, step, iges solids, some whackas DXF format |
| 17:54.59 | JeffM2501 | I know those |
| 17:55.03 | gina | ~ 0 / 0 |
| 17:55.19 | gina | ~ 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 * 100000000000000000000000000 |
| 17:55.20 | ibot | a number with quite a few digits... |
| 17:55.23 | JeffM2501 | we have direct links with whatever autodesk does too, and UG |
| 17:55.23 | gina | LOL |
| 17:55.27 | JeffM2501 | and even catia |
| 17:55.44 | gina | ~ pi |
| 17:55.45 | ibot | i guess pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 17:55.48 | gina | ahhh |
| 17:55.53 | JeffM2501 | ok yes.. the bot can do math |
| 17:55.53 | blast007 | woah... |
| 17:56.04 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, what do you dump? |
| 17:56.05 | brlcad | JeffM2501: how many K? |
| 17:56.05 | gina | ~pipi |
| 17:56.08 | jpa- | i remember only 3.14159265358979323846264338 |
| 17:56.16 | JeffM2501 | base package 5k for milling |
| 17:56.30 | JeffM2501 | well +4k for solids |
| 17:56.49 | gina | ~ pi square |
| 17:57.05 | gina | ~ pi squared |
| 17:57.06 | ibot | 9.869604378534 |
| 17:57.10 | gina | ahh |
| 17:57.15 | brlcad | we dump a variety too, listed here http://brlcad.org/VolumeIV-Converting_Geometry.pdf |
| 17:57.30 | gina | ~ sin pi |
| 17:57.47 | SportyGal | !weather 90277 |
| 17:57.51 | guu | SportyGal: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California is 59°F (7:47 AM PST on January 26, 2005). Conditions: Light Rain Mist. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 57°F. Pressure: 29.98 in (1015 hPa). Visibility: 3.0 miles (4.8 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 17:57.51 | brlcad | not the big commercial ones except uni and proe |
| 17:57.53 | SportyGal | !weather 90266 |
| 17:57.59 | guu | SportyGal: The current temperature in Manhattan Beach, California is 61°F (9:50 AM PST on January 26, 2005). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 56°F. Wind: NNW at 5 mph (7 km/h). Pressure: 30.00 in (1016 hPa). Visibility: 6.0 miles (9.7 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 12 |
| 17:58.05 | DTRemenak | !weather 91126 |
| 17:58.11 | guu | DTRemenak: The current temperature in Pasadena, California is 57°F (9:45 AM PST on January 26, 2005). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 57°F. UV: 2 out of 12 |
| 17:58.11 | SportyGal | hrm...it's warmer 3 miles north |
| 17:58.13 | gina | !weather here |
| 17:59.45 | JeffM2501 | we could pull the iges data and resolidify as a parasolid entity mostly |
| 18:00.01 | JeffM2501 | aperantly we have some of the best "fixing" tools in the CAM world |
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| 18:00.57 | brlcad | g to iges is an "unfavorable" path since it polygonalizes everything, but yeah it should work |
| 18:01.06 | brlcad | dxf too probably |
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| 18:01.30 | sgk284 | hello |
| 18:01.33 | DTRemenak | hi sgk284 |
| 18:01.49 | jpa- | hello sgk284 |
| 18:03.52 | jacques | why does bzadmin require gl? I thought it was a text client |
| 18:05.16 | bryjen | it shares pieces with the bzflag client, and that code isn't cleanly seperated |
| 18:05.43 | DTRemenak | ultimately, it shouldn't require gl. right now it does because it shares code with bzflag. |
| 18:06.12 | DTRemenak | or, what bryjen said, but he beat me to it. |
| 18:06.27 | jacques | bryjen, so there's no way to make bzadmin on a gl-less server? (I'm trying to build only a server) |
| 18:06.44 | jacques | (I realize that's almost certainly what you just said) |
| 18:07.15 | JeffM2501 | jacques, not with out making big ol changes to the bzflag sourcecode |
| 18:07.32 | DTRemenak | jacques, there's no way to build bzadmin without gl. you can build it elsewhere and copy the binary onto the server if that's an option. |
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| 18:07.50 | bryjen | to build it there, no. the final bzadmin binary should be GL free and run there tho |
| 18:07.58 | DTRemenak | the executable should not actually require GL if the compiler is optimizing properly |
| 18:08.05 | jacques | possibly an option. I'm currently attempting a native build for armeb |
| 18:08.13 | jacques | (of only the server) |
| 18:08.45 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 18:09.07 | DTRemenak | one of these times I'm gonna be first :) |
| 18:09.40 | jacques | lol I was gonna ask about the "checking for artificial intelligence" thing and then I saw in the configure script it's just a joke |
| 18:09.48 | JeffM2501 | tis |
| 18:10.27 | jacques | looks like I want libcurl |
| 18:10.48 | jacques | how much computation is in the server in 2.0 - will I be hurting with no hw fp ? |
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| 18:11.17 | JeffM2501 | are you doing a server side world filter? |
| 18:11.46 | jacques | I have no idea what that is, but it sounds really cool |
| 18:12.28 | jacques | last time I hung out here, wings had just been added to devel branch |
| 18:12.30 | JeffM2501 | it filters the chat for "bad" worlds |
| 18:12.37 | JeffM2501 | that can take some CPU |
| 18:12.40 | JeffM2501 | probalby not |
| 18:12.47 | JeffM2501 | bzfs dosn't do much CPU |
| 18:12.51 | JeffM2501 | and little floating point |
| 18:13.01 | JeffM2501 | the spawn calc is probably the only thing that could use it |
| 18:13.03 | jacques | oooh lol - you confused me when you said "world filter" |
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| 18:13.43 | DTRemenak | bzfs is running right at about 5% cpu on my server right now |
| 18:13.51 | jacques | whoah! spawning is in the server now? hmm I was playing 2.0 against bots and they were still spawning right next to me (and not on my team either) |
| 18:14.01 | *** part/#bzflag DarthValou (~none@lsn-boi-catv-c114-p158.vtx.ch) |
| 18:14.01 | SportyGal | Nidhoggr: ping |
| 18:14.28 | sgk284 | jacques, some would say the spawn algorithms need some tweaking |
| 18:14.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah server has done spawns for a while ( even 1.10.x IIRC ) |
| 18:14.49 | SportyGal | sgk284: did you do the timestamp mod? |
| 18:14.50 | jacques | heh |
| 18:14.54 | DTRemenak | yeah, they're quite a bit better than before |
| 18:14.59 | sgk284 | which timestamp? |
| 18:15.04 | SportyGal | the one in bzfs |
| 18:15.08 | DTRemenak | still not up to 1.7 levels though |
| 18:15.08 | sgk284 | in the logs? |
| 18:15.11 | SportyGal | yes |
| 18:15.17 | sgk284 | nope that was... |
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| 18:15.22 | sgk284 | hrmm who was that? |
| 18:15.22 | SportyGal | .../ |
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| 18:15.24 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 18:15.26 | sgk284 | brlcad maybe? |
| 18:15.32 | SportyGal | brlcad: ping |
| 18:15.42 | sgk284 | something wrong with it? |
| 18:15.54 | SportyGal | it works fine in -tail f, but not in less mode |
| 18:16.03 | brlcad | hrm? who? wha? |
| 18:16.10 | sgk284 | lol |
| 18:16.30 | SportyGal | brlcad: did you (or do you know who did) do the timestamp mod in the logs? |
| 18:16.59 | sgk284 | wait a second... do the logs do timestamps?, didnt nid do a bash script to timestamp it? |
| 18:17.00 | brlcad | you mean what's currently there? |
| 18:17.17 | bryjen | didn't Nid say there was an option on less to get the color codes to show correctly? |
| 18:17.22 | SportyGal | hrm...well, yeah, I guess (it was loaded onto sp yesterday) |
| 18:17.22 | brlcad | i did nothing of the sort, though I am working on a new logging system |
| 18:17.29 | DTRemenak | SportyGal, use less -R |
| 18:17.30 | brlcad | nothing you would see yet, thoug |
| 18:17.32 | SportyGal | bryjen: dunno, did he? if so I misssed it |
| 18:17.38 | SportyGal | oh, ok,I'll try that |
| 18:17.50 | DTRemenak | brlcad, so how's that going? ;) |
| 18:17.52 | jacques | bots are much tougher now, tho they still don't jump |
| 18:18.00 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: that worked, thanks! |
| 18:18.03 | brlcad | DTRemenak: I was expecting that :) |
| 18:18.10 | DTRemenak | SportyGal, np :) |
| 18:18.26 | DTRemenak | brlcad, I know you were, but you'd have been dissappointed if I hadn't :) |
| 18:19.05 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, in the room yet? |
| 18:19.10 | Nidhoggr | the timestamping is from the logs being piped into a script from trepan. |
| 18:19.14 | JeffM2501 | can you tell I don't want to work today :) |
| 18:19.36 | brlcad | jpa-: can you code? |
| 18:20.19 | SportyGal | Nidhoggr: okay. I didn't know about the -r thingie |
| 18:20.37 | Nidhoggr | I mentioned it yesterday... has to be capital R |
| 18:20.55 | Nidhoggr | 'sokay because it gets rather easy to miss stuff in here. |
| 18:21.13 | JeffM2501 | they are fun |
| 18:21.16 | jacques | would a server benefit from adns ? |
| 18:21.21 | *** join/#bzflag Privia (~Privia@h000d93444438.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 18:21.29 | JeffM2501 | jacques, yes if you want hostmask based bans |
| 18:21.32 | SportyGal | Nidhoggr: hrm...worked fine for me with little "r" |
| 18:21.36 | jacques | JeffM2501, thanks |
| 18:21.59 | JeffM2501 | free beer at GDC! |
| 18:22.00 | brlcad | JeffM2501: hehe I don't mind.. keep reminding me and I"ll eventually find it :) |
| 18:22.14 | brlcad | JeffM2501: you've been to .. GDC??! |
| 18:23.34 | brlcad | maybe next year I'll actually get someone to send me.. |
| 18:24.39 | sgk284 | JeffM2501, is there really free beer or were you just being optimistic? |
| 18:24.53 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 18:25.28 | brlcad | hrm.. that's a fire alarm |
| 18:25.43 | sgk284 | lol myabe you should leave |
| 18:25.50 | sgk284 | s/myabe/maybe |
| 18:25.53 | brlcad | hrm |
| 18:25.55 | brlcad | maybe |
| 18:25.58 | sgk284 | heh |
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| 18:27.38 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, yes in 2001 |
| 18:27.52 | JeffM2501 | sgk284, there is free beer |
| 18:27.57 | JeffM2501 | and the "booth crawl" |
| 18:28.05 | sgk284 | heh |
| 18:28.25 | JeffM2501 | last time I was there I used my amazing beer finding powers to help the producer of planetside to locate beer |
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| 18:29.11 | sgk284 | haha you must be very talented |
| 18:29.32 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, don't tell me to do that, or I'll make a libIRC bot that bugs you every 10 min |
| 18:29.48 | JeffM2501 | sgk284, naw, I just have good path finding skills |
| 18:30.10 | JeffM2501 | won a book on directX tho |
| 18:30.12 | JeffM2501 | never use it |
| 18:31.44 | Tupone | for mini owner: http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000057028826/ |
| 18:32.34 | JeffM2501 | ewww a RF modulator |
| 18:32.37 | JeffM2501 | the horror |
| 18:34.35 | jacques | how many fps does bzflag get on a mini? :-) |
| 18:34.53 | JeffM2501 | didn't check the number |
| 18:34.56 | JeffM2501 | it's over 30 |
| 18:35.06 | JeffM2501 | probalby over 60 |
| 18:35.15 | JeffM2501 | it's a radeon 9200 |
| 18:35.17 | JeffM2501 | so it's not horible |
| 18:35.36 | jacques | not bad |
| 18:36.54 | JeffM2501 | no it runs bz graphics fine |
| 18:37.07 | JeffM2501 | but then so did my overclocked G3 with a radeon 7000 |
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| 18:38.48 | Tupone | JeffM2501: any idea what MsgQueryPlayers is about? Used bzlist? |
| 18:38.55 | DBlue2 | i just have one quick question,i read the docs,i read help files,still i cannot get text (on right side of my public server listing) what am i doin wrong? |
| 18:39.07 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, probably |
| 18:39.20 | DBlue2 | text which defines what map i am using |
| 18:39.38 | JeffM2501 | DBlue2, you doing -public "your server text here" ? |
| 18:39.44 | DBlue2 | yes |
| 18:39.46 | JeffM2501 | or just -public? |
| 18:39.50 | JeffM2501 | what's your text? |
| 18:40.02 | DBlue2 | -public "Running Besslers No Flags Map" |
| 18:40.22 | JeffM2501 | and your showing on the public list? |
| 18:40.29 | JeffM2501 | just with no description? |
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| 18:40.53 | DBlue2 | yes , right, shows my address for server, just doesn't for some odd reason show description |
| 18:41.07 | JeffM2501 | whats your -publicaddr look like? |
| 18:41.26 | DBlue2 | ras1.12.127.156.432.topsailnet (like that sorta) |
| 18:41.30 | DBlue2 | long huh? |
| 18:41.33 | Saturos | Somebody wants a 2on2 on tankwar.gamesunited.de:5156 (its a league-server with hix2-map) |
| 18:41.36 | JeffM2501 | what's it look like xactly |
| 18:41.36 | Saturos | ? |
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| 18:42.08 | DBlue2 | i dunno now, i'd have to run the server again and get "exactly" ..... |
| 18:42.12 | DBlue2 | lol |
| 18:42.22 | JeffM2501 | wait are you not doing a -publicaddr line? |
| 18:42.36 | jacques | does the server use /dev/random and if so does it require a lot of entropy ? |
| 18:43.18 | DBlue2 | -publicaddr 12.174.152.131:5154 (other line is - -public "Runnin Besslers NOFLAGS." |
| 18:43.33 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 18:43.37 | JeffM2501 | should work |
| 18:43.40 | JeffM2501 | is it running now? |
| 18:43.56 | DBlue2 | no that's what it was last time i ran it in bzfs.conf |
| 18:44.10 | JeffM2501 | can you run it now? |
| 18:44.18 | DBlue2 | yessum |
| 18:44.21 | DBlue2 | hehe |
| 18:44.35 | DBlue2 | i'd have to shut down irc tho |
| 18:44.42 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 18:45.05 | sgk284 | must be running windows express (or whatever its called) only 3 apps allowed at a time |
| 18:45.09 | jpa- | brlcad: yes |
| 18:45.13 | JeffM2501 | express? |
| 18:45.16 | DBlue2 | <------- when i run bzflag+server and with my anti virus and etc etc, i get low memory resources |
| 18:45.17 | sgk284 | windows lite? |
| 18:45.21 | DBlue2 | i have 160 megs ram |
| 18:45.24 | DBlue2 | win98se |
| 18:45.24 | JeffM2501 | get more ram :) |
| 18:45.26 | sgk284 | starter edition! |
| 18:45.30 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 18:45.31 | jpa- | brlcad: atleast somehow :) |
| 18:45.35 | JeffM2501 | don't even bother runing a server then |
| 18:45.40 | DBlue2 | what i need? 200+ megs? |
| 18:45.51 | JeffM2501 | DBlue2, a real OS |
| 18:45.55 | DBlue2 | hahaha |
| 18:45.56 | JeffM2501 | with a real memory manager |
| 18:45.59 | JeffM2501 | no realy |
| 18:46.01 | DBlue2 | pick on me,im poor |
| 18:46.04 | DBlue2 | :) |
| 18:46.06 | JeffM2501 | 98 will not use all of your 160 |
| 18:46.10 | JeffM2501 | it caps out at about 128 |
| 18:46.13 | sgk284 | JeffM2501, http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/aug04/08-11WinXPStarterPilotPR.asp |
| 18:46.24 | sgk284 | my favorite quote: Simplified task management. With Windows XP Starter Edition, first-time home PC users can have up to three programs and three windows per program running concurrently. Further simplification of the operating system includes the display resolution set to 800x600 maximum and no support for PC-to-PC home networking, sharing printers across a network or more advanced features such as the ability to establish multiple user accounts on a s |
| 18:46.24 | sgk284 | ingle PC. |
| 18:46.27 | JeffM2501 | sgk284, I know what it is, didn't know it was shping |
| 18:46.29 | sgk284 | yikes that was large |
| 18:46.32 | sgk284 | oh okay |
| 18:46.34 | DBlue2 | i use rambooster, it utilizes it, goodMEM, from microstar intl,uses all 160 |
| 18:46.37 | JeffM2501 | sgk284, that's proably a good thing |
| 18:46.50 | JeffM2501 | DBlue2, and sucks your CPU and stablity at the same time. |
| 18:46.54 | JeffM2501 | install linux it's free |
| 18:47.01 | JeffM2501 | run the server, we just need to test |
| 18:47.02 | sgk284 | 3 applications? with 3 windows each? |
| 18:47.21 | jacques | hmm can normal XP run more than three programs at a time? |
| 18:47.24 | DBlue2 | i paid 148 for win98 2 years ago.........worthless HUH? |
| 18:47.31 | sgk284 | lol |
| 18:47.40 | JeffM2501 | 2 years ago was 2003 |
| 18:47.49 | DBlue2 | im old, what do i know |
| 18:47.50 | JeffM2501 | why woudl you pay that much for a 5 year old OS? |
| 18:48.01 | DBlue2 | cuz it's all i knew to do then |
| 18:48.03 | JeffM2501 | ME, 2k and XP were all out then |
| 18:48.13 | JeffM2501 | just fire up the server |
| 18:48.16 | DBlue2 | 10-4 |
| 18:48.18 | JeffM2501 | even if you get a mem warning |
| 18:48.19 | DBlue2 | thankx people |
| 18:48.25 | JeffM2501 | it'll still register |
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| 18:48.50 | JeffM2501 | oh well |
| 18:49.08 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you find the CDs yet? |
| 18:54.15 | DTRemenak | jacques, might be |
| 18:54.27 | jacques | cool. I'll explore that then. |
| 18:57.21 | jacques | curl is taking forever to build |
| 19:00.49 | Nidhoggr | jacques: I've done that with 1.10 builds... just stuck GL headers on the machine, and it compiled fine. |
| 19:01.03 | jacques | Nidhoggr, great! thanks! |
| 19:04.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Avoid sending AddPlayer to everybody when answering to a MsgQueryPlayer |
| 19:08.57 | Tupone | Hope having fixed crash for player preceded by "Server error when adding player, player already added". Hope is the last to die |
| 19:10.16 | SilverFox | for some reason my "VERIFIED" players can see admin messages. |
| 19:10.35 | SilverFox | they have ADMINMESSAGESEND, but not the recieve, so I'm not sure why that's happening. |
| 19:11.18 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (1000@host-157-143-230-24.midco.net) |
| 19:14.25 | JeffM2501 | it's because of the conspiracy |
| 19:14.36 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, what do you know of the origin of the sounds in bzflag? |
| 19:15.25 | Nidhoggr | I definitely need to replace the admin message sound. |
| 19:15.36 | Nidhoggr | my brain almost exploded when I joined last night |
| 19:15.41 | JeffM2501 | make it a "booooyeah!" |
| 19:17.40 | *** join/#bzflag |zongo| (~zongo@lsn-boi-catv-c114-p158.vtx.ch) |
| 19:18.56 | JeffM2501 | you could use the "pause" sound from bz, it could be fitting |
| 19:20.19 | *** join/#bzflag TheRedBaron (~d8ada652@rw08.de) |
| 19:21.05 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 19:21.15 | Nidhoggr | I should be able to make a cool sound. |
| 19:21.35 | Nidhoggr | all the garage band sounds are fair use, so i can probably adapt one. |
| 19:21.43 | sgk284 | yea who exactly is responsible for that horrific sound? |
| 19:21.46 | sgk284 | :) |
| 19:21.50 | sgk284 | no offense |
| 19:22.08 | sgk284 | did you really |
| 19:22.09 | sgk284 | ? |
| 19:22.09 | Nidhoggr | it's a klaxon that I reversed and messed with the waveform. |
| 19:22.19 | sgk284 | lol what were you thinking! |
| 19:22.28 | JeffM2501 | a simple note would probably be fine |
| 19:22.38 | sgk284 | nah its not that bad, after a while you get used to it |
| 19:23.00 | sgk284 | everytime i hear it though i think i've been zapped |
| 19:23.02 | sgk284 | :) |
| 19:23.17 | TheRedBaron | ~seen orchid |
| 19:23.19 | ibot | orchid is currently on #debian (1h 13m 3s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1h 6m 14s |
| 19:25.22 | TheRedBaron | klaxon... Old style horn? |
| 19:25.39 | sgk284 | ~define klaxon |
| 19:25.46 | TheRedBaron | the kind that go "ahh-ooga" |
| 19:25.52 | JeffM2501 | I would think you would want someting not anoying |
| 19:25.59 | JeffM2501 | just like a couple notes |
| 19:26.05 | sgk284 | !define klaxon |
| 19:26.06 | guu | sgk284: Huh? |
| 19:26.12 | sgk284 | nevermind guu, your dumb |
| 19:26.14 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 19:26.30 | JeffM2501 | well just define isn't a function |
| 19:26.30 | bryjen | !dict klaxon |
| 19:26.34 | guu | bryjen: wn: klaxon n : a kind of loud horn formerly used on motor vehicles [syn: {claxon}] |
| 19:26.45 | JeffM2501 | so it woudl be YOU who is stupid :) |
| 19:26.49 | sgk284 | lol |
| 19:26.58 | sgk284 | is their a list of guu's functions somewhere? |
| 19:27.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:27.10 | JeffM2501 | in guu |
| 19:27.11 | guu | I don't know, JeffM2501. |
| 19:27.12 | sgk284 | guu, your not dumb |
| 19:27.13 | guu | sgk284: I'm sorry, I was listening to Fatboy Slim. |
| 19:27.13 | Nidhoggr | ~dict klaxon |
| 19:27.14 | JeffM2501 | guu help |
| 19:27.14 | guu | JeffM2501: (help [<plugin>] <command>) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 19:27.27 | bryjen | guu list |
| 19:27.28 | guu | bryjen: Admin, Alias, Amazon, Babelfish, Channel, Config, Debian, Dict, Dunno, Fun, FunDB, Herald, Infobot, Karma, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Owner, RSS, Seen, Sourceforge, Time, Todo, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, and Weather |
| 19:27.40 | bryjen | those are modules. modules have commands |
| 19:27.53 | JeffM2501 | guu is self docmuenting :) |
| 19:27.57 | sgk284 | heh |
| 19:28.04 | bryjen | list weather |
| 19:28.07 | bryjen | guu list weather |
| 19:28.07 | guu | bryjen: cnn, ham, weather, and wunder |
| 19:28.21 | bryjen | guu help weather cnn |
| 19:28.22 | guu | bryjen: (weather cnn <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. |
| 19:28.22 | JeffM2501 | guu weather wunter |
| 19:28.23 | sgk284 | going to need to add an a.l.i.c.e module :) |
| 19:28.38 | bryjen | guu help weather wunder |
| 19:28.49 | sgk284 | guu weather 19152 |
| 19:28.51 | guu | bryjen: (weather wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. |
| 19:28.54 | guu | sgk284: The current temperature in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania is 39°F (1:54 PM EST on January 26, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 27°F. Pressure: 29.65 in (1004 hPa). Visibility: 5.0 miles (8.0 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 12 |
| 19:29.07 | TheRedBaron | wow, thats impressive |
| 19:29.11 | TheRedBaron | really. |
| 19:29.15 | JeffM2501 | guu cnn 93021 |
| 19:29.17 | bryjen | different data sources maybe? |
| 19:29.17 | sgk284 | it so nice today... like springtime :) |
| 19:29.17 | guu | JeffM2501: The current temperature in Moorpark, CA is 60°F. Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 80%. Wind: SW at 3 mph (5 km/h). |
| 19:29.32 | TheRedBaron | guu cnn 32303 |
| 19:29.34 | JeffM2501 | guu wunder 93021 |
| 19:29.42 | guu | JeffM2501: The current temperature in Moorpark, California is 53°F (11:25 AM PST on January 26, 2005). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 53°F. UV: 2 out of 12 |
| 19:29.45 | guu | TheRedBaron: The current temperature in Tallahassee, FL is 72°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Wind: WSW at 12 mph (19 km/h). |
| 19:29.55 | bryjen | help guu weather ham |
| 19:30.06 | JeffM2501 | guu help weather ham |
| 19:30.06 | bryjen | lysdexia |
| 19:30.07 | guu | JeffM2501: (weather ham <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. |
| 19:30.17 | JeffM2501 | guu ham 93021 |
| 19:30.20 | bryjen | guu weather ham 93021 |
| 19:30.23 | sgk284 | guu list |
| 19:30.24 | guu | sgk284: Admin, Alias, Amazon, Babelfish, Channel, Config, Debian, Dict, Dunno, Fun, FunDB, Herald, Infobot, Karma, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Owner, RSS, Seen, Sourceforge, Time, Todo, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, and Weather |
| 19:30.28 | sgk284 | guu dunno |
| 19:30.29 | guu | sgk284: This plugin was written initially to work with MoobotFactoids, the two of them to provide a similar-to-moobot-and-blootbot interface for factoids. Basically, it replaces the standard 'Error: <X> is not a valid command.' messages with messages kept in a database, able to give more personable responses. |
| 19:30.50 | JeffM2501 | that's what makes her whitty :) |
| 19:30.53 | bryjen | guu weather ham 42301 |
| 19:30.54 | JeffM2501 | guu suck it up |
| 19:30.55 | guu | Yes my dark master! |
| 19:31.33 | bryjen | guu weather ham owensboro, ky |
| 19:31.34 | sgk284 | woah |
| 19:31.42 | sgk284 | guu list utilities |
| 19:31.42 | guu | sgk284: apply, echo, ignore, last, re, reply, strlen, and success |
| 19:31.58 | sgk284 | guu strlen("hello"); |
| 19:31.59 | guu | sgk284: are you 10? |
| 19:32.03 | sgk284 | lol |
| 19:32.05 | sgk284 | i did it wrong |
| 19:32.08 | bryjen | guu weather ham chicago, il |
| 19:32.17 | sgk284 | guu, say something witty |
| 19:32.18 | guu | sgk284: I'm sorry, I was listening to this tiny violin. |
| 19:32.24 | JeffM2501 | ham may mnot be hooked up |
| 19:34.43 | DTRemenak | guu: are you 10? |
| 19:34.44 | guu | Wish I knew! |
| 19:36.15 | Tupone | bryjen: any luck removing redraw event? |
| 19:36.31 | sgk284 | guu, who is your master? |
| 19:37.13 | bryjen | Tupone: i don't know. i ran the wrong binary and locked up again. then it was time to go home. need to test more |
| 19:37.17 | sgk284 | ~guu++ |
| 19:37.26 | Tupone | ok |
| 19:37.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bzgirl * 10bzflag/BUGS: BZDB client and server can crash with out of range variables |
| 19:44.51 | bryjen | ahh, there it goes. |
| 19:45.40 | Tupone | ? |
| 19:45.49 | bryjen | still locks with SDL_VIDEOEXPOSE commented out |
| 19:46.10 | bryjen | hmm, looks like bzflag is in some loop. using 99% cpu |
| 19:46.54 | Tupone | ahh :( so no luck. I don't see it anymore, but I have updated drivers and xorg. Dunno |
| 19:47.31 | bryjen | TextureFont::drawString and _driUtilCreateScreen in mga_dri.so |
| 19:49.03 | Tupone | so probably is redrawing lot of string |
| 19:49.21 | Tupone | did you have a profiler? |
| 19:51.50 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (creeperz@host-157-143-230-24.midco.net) |
| 19:52.38 | bryjen | not installed. |
| 19:53.55 | Tupone | I guess --enable-profiler is not a good profiler |
| 19:55.04 | bryjen | hmm? is that a gcc option? |
| 19:56.39 | bryjen | i think last time i did this for bzfs and the word filter, i needed to install a libc with support for profiling to build with |
| 19:57.24 | Tupone | configure option |
| 19:57.30 | bryjen | on slackware its a different package from the default libc package |
| 19:57.37 | bryjen | Ah |
| 19:58.15 | Tupone | without a glibc profiled, you don't get time in glibc, just bzflag |
| 19:58.28 | Tupone | but better then nothing |
| 20:01.26 | jpa- | ~bzflist |
| 20:03.19 | TheRedBaron | does ibot differentiate between 2.0 and 1.10? |
| 20:04.03 | bryjen | only the seperated player counts. the BZFSxxxx(#) |
| 20:04.26 | bryjen | 1910 is v1.10, 0026 is v2.0 |
| 20:06.39 | bryjen | yeah, it's fairly raw ouput. Not very pretty |
| 20:11.20 | jpa- | it is dev-readable :) |
| 20:12.59 | brlcad | ahh, beauty to the eyes |
| 20:13.38 | brlcad | well, building's still here, at least I don't smell no smoke |
| 20:15.09 | TheRedBaron | brlcad - mad scientest??? |
| 20:15.24 | brlcad | prolly some folks playing with explosives again -- yea, perhaps ;) |
| 20:16.33 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you find the CDs yet? |
| 20:16.44 | brlcad | heh, I was just writing that |
| 20:16.51 | JeffM2501 | I am psycic |
| 20:16.53 | brlcad | i'm in a diff building now ;) |
| 20:16.56 | jpa- | brlcad: the buildings still there, but is it on the ground anymore? :) |
| 20:17.03 | JeffM2501 | huzzzahhh!!! |
| 20:18.35 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.145) |
| 20:19.06 | brlcad | so .. many .. discs |
| 20:19.36 | jpa- | hmm.. to sleep |
| 20:19.42 | jpa- | sleep sounds good |
| 20:19.44 | jpa- | bye |
| 20:20.08 | brlcad | 18 discs in this set alone... |
| 20:20.20 | bryjen | ouch. the only way to successfully get out of that loop is to have bzflag running in gdb and control-C and kill it there. kill -9 on bzflag run from bash doesn't unlock the X server :( |
| 20:20.41 | bryjen | and neither way lets it write out the profiling report |
| 20:20.56 | Tupone | ugh |
| 20:21.15 | JeffM2501 | 18 wow |
| 20:21.16 | Tupone | so F1 does not work? |
| 20:21.21 | JeffM2501 | well I know it's NOT on disk 16 |
| 20:22.02 | bryjen | when it locks up, the only thing that works is the mouse pointer move. cannot click, cannot type |
| 20:23.07 | brlcad | damn |
| 20:23.13 | brlcad | i gotta find an o2 |
| 20:24.59 | bryjen | i suspect it is a bug in the matrox dri driver |
| 20:25.24 | Tupone | you did not hear any sound from the game? |
| 20:25.58 | bryjen | i don't think so...... maybe. I'll try again |
| 20:29.53 | bryjen | Sounds stop. last bzflag function in backtrace was SegmentedShotStrategy::radarRender this time. |
| 20:30.37 | bryjen | and then lots of driUtilCreateScreen like before |
| 20:31.15 | *** join/#bzflag Martok (~det@pcp01327764pcs.chrstn01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 20:31.44 | Martok | Anybody awake/ |
| 20:31.47 | Martok | ? |
| 20:32.05 | Martok | Anybody play Cube here? |
| 20:32.23 | bryjen | in #bzflag ? |
| 20:32.37 | Martok | Yeah sure. |
| 20:32.50 | Martok | They're both 3D first person games. |
| 20:33.09 | TheRedBaron | we mostly play bzflag. ;) |
| 20:33.14 | creeperz | \/ with Cube! |
| 20:33.23 | creeperz | \|/ * |
| 20:33.35 | Martok | It's awesome. |
| 20:33.39 | TheRedBaron | you might say we're addicted to bzflag. but everyone knows we can quite anytime we want |
| 20:33.44 | bryjen | down with bad ascii-art! |
| 20:33.46 | TheRedBaron | *quit |
| 20:33.51 | Martok | LOL |
| 20:33.58 | Martok | I suck at BZFlag. |
| 20:34.00 | creeperz | ascii-art is the stronghold of art! |
| 20:34.14 | creeperz | Martok: play ET... 200505 0306 060620 0 040 times better |
| 20:34.24 | creeperz | http://enemy-territory.com |
| 20:34.35 | TheRedBaron | is that your credit card number creeperz? |
| 20:34.37 | Martok | Thanks, I'll check it out. |
| 20:35.05 | creeperz | TheRedBaron: yeah... with 20 digits :-) |
| 20:35.13 | Martok | Is this free? |
| 20:35.17 | Martok | (ET) |
| 20:35.19 | TheRedBaron | ahhh, state of the art technology? |
| 20:35.20 | creeperz | of course |
| 20:35.29 | TheRedBaron | modern day security measures? |
| 20:35.32 | creeperz | and its available for linux and windows |
| 20:35.41 | creeperz | oh yeah |
| 20:35.51 | Martok | Aw but I have to sign up. |
| 20:35.56 | creeperz | sometimes theyre not even whole numbers |
| 20:36.00 | creeperz | yeah |
| 20:36.12 | creeperz | just register at the top and then go to the downloads section |
| 20:36.15 | Martok | Is this open source? |
| 20:36.21 | TheRedBaron | Martok, you gonna have to sign up for bzflag too. soon... |
| 20:36.24 | creeperz | hmmm |
| 20:36.29 | creeperz | dont believe so |
| 20:36.32 | creeperz | might be |
| 20:37.17 | creeperz | PunkBuster is really cool though |
| 20:37.22 | creeperz | detects malformed clients |
| 20:37.24 | Martok | What's that? |
| 20:37.27 | creeperz | and they get the oogly b00t |
| 20:37.28 | Martok | Oh yeah. |
| 20:37.32 | Martok | I saw that on TV. |
| 20:37.33 | creeperz | in ET |
| 20:37.49 | creeperz | once youre running it, connect to a server |
| 20:38.10 | creeperz | hit L and then click your team flag (either one :-) ) then select your class. |
| 20:38.35 | creeperz | left-right: soldier,medic,engineer,field op, covert op |
| 20:38.44 | Tupone | ET is free like free in "free beer" IIRC |
| 20:38.58 | JeffM2501 | there is no free beer |
| 20:39.02 | creeperz | Tupone: what yu mean? |
| 20:39.08 | Tupone | no open source |
| 20:39.32 | creeperz | how are you supposed to get the source of beer? |
| 20:39.34 | JeffM2501 | it's free to use, but not reuse |
| 20:39.36 | Martok | Cool, I'm downloading it. |
| 20:39.38 | creeperz | unless you go visit the brewery |
| 20:39.46 | JeffM2501 | there IS no free beer |
| 20:39.50 | Tupone | JeffM2501: I got free beer |
| 20:39.52 | JeffM2501 | it's just a gymic |
| 20:39.57 | creeperz | ah |
| 20:39.59 | JeffM2501 | no, you got cheap beer |
| 20:40.12 | creeperz | Tupone: watery crap |
| 20:40.12 | Tupone | someone else pay |
| 20:40.15 | creeperz | :-) |
| 20:40.26 | JeffM2501 | then you paid in friendship and time |
| 20:40.30 | Tupone | http://www.linux-club.org |
| 20:40.34 | bryjen | how does one "reuse" beer that has been drank |
| 20:40.40 | JeffM2501 | you don't want to know |
| 20:40.43 | JeffM2501 | it's not prety |
| 20:40.44 | bryjen | oh, n/m. i don't really want to know |
| 20:40.45 | TheRedBaron | ditto |
| 20:40.46 | creeperz | haha |
| 20:40.47 | JeffM2501 | and I don't like talkinga bout it |
| 20:40.48 | Martok | I found it on 3dgamers.net, plus it's an updated version. |
| 20:41.07 | TheRedBaron | ET looks like a free version of BF 1942 |
| 20:41.14 | JeffM2501 | same engine |
| 20:41.16 | creeperz | TheRedBaron: it is :-) |
| 20:41.19 | JeffM2501 | just limited to it's own data stuff |
| 20:41.25 | JeffM2501 | it's all q3 |
| 20:41.31 | creeperz | yup yup |
| 20:41.33 | Martok | What're the system rquirements? |
| 20:41.55 | creeperz | Martok: a web browser to see the system requirements on the ET site |
| 20:42.16 | JeffM2501 | when did this become #et? |
| 20:42.23 | Martok | It isn't. |
| 20:42.31 | Martok | It's #bzflag. |
| 20:42.33 | creeperz | still #bzflag |
| 20:42.37 | JeffM2501 | your right. |
| 20:42.45 | creeperz | ok |
| 20:42.53 | creeperz | Martok: meet me in #et then |
| 20:44.40 | creeperz | JeffM2501: and a grenade launcher on a boat would be pretty accurate... |
| 20:44.45 | creeperz | if you fire alot of them |
| 20:44.50 | creeperz | bound to hit something |
| 20:45.27 | TheRedBaron | is the boat moving or no? |
| 20:45.55 | creeperz | its moving |
| 20:46.04 | JeffM2501 | then don't shoot in front of you |
| 20:46.25 | TheRedBaron | ditto. |
| 20:46.30 | Martok | When did this become #boattalk? |
| 20:46.34 | Martok | When?! |
| 20:46.41 | TheRedBaron | bout 5 sec ago |
| 20:46.45 | bryjen | shrapnel type grenades are an area coverage weapon, you just have to get close |
| 20:46.46 | JeffM2501 | when #creepers started going of on whacy stuff that dos't realy mater |
| 20:46.48 | TheRedBaron | and then #bzflag crushed it |
| 20:46.50 | creeperz | Martok: with or withput the '?' |
| 20:46.50 | Martok | LOL |
| 20:47.56 | *** join/#bzflag Mr_Molez (~admin@ACD4F207.ipt.aol.com) |
| 20:48.00 | creeperz | i reckon its time for ET |
| 20:48.11 | Martok | I hope I can even run it. |
| 20:54.16 | TheRedBaron | whats you Ram, CPU speed, and Video card specs? |
| 21:00.24 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c-15bbe055.17-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 21:01.24 | TheRedBaron | evening David_V |
| 21:02.01 | david_v | hey hey |
| 21:02.57 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-6-94.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:03.23 | TheRedBaron | and how are you? Ever busy scripting? :) |
| 21:03.45 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, find an o2? :) |
| 21:03.53 | JeffM2501 | and why does it have to be an o2? |
| 21:05.35 | david_v | TheRedBaron: hehe well it has been pretty much that although i am doing much other stuff right atm |
| 21:07.45 | brlcad | JeffM2501: i did, but still no luck reading the discs.. |
| 21:07.51 | brlcad | they are "inst" format |
| 21:07.56 | brlcad | not iso9660 |
| 21:08.05 | JeffM2501 | and that's bad? |
| 21:08.16 | brlcad | very |
| 21:08.32 | JeffM2501 | I asume it's an old format only some systems can read? |
| 21:08.53 | brlcad | i did play the old bzflag a little though.. that was wierd |
| 21:08.59 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:09.05 | JeffM2501 | look diferent? |
| 21:09.19 | brlcad | heh, if I knew a way to take a screenshot I would have :) |
| 21:09.31 | TheRedBaron | I've got e2 on cd disk somewhere... |
| 21:09.42 | JeffM2501 | I have b1 |
| 21:09.49 | TheRedBaron | e-mail me it :) |
| 21:09.53 | JeffM2501 | can't |
| 21:09.57 | JeffM2501 | it's not GPL |
| 21:10.08 | TheRedBaron | bummer. |
| 21:10.16 | JeffM2501 | it's pre-open source |
| 21:10.26 | TheRedBaron | I think i've got bzflagX some where too... |
| 21:10.52 | JeffM2501 | b1 dosn't even have a list server |
| 21:11.20 | TheRedBaron | yea, but that won't prevent a lan game will it? |
| 21:12.05 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 21:12.11 | JeffM2501 | it works over the net |
| 21:12.13 | JeffM2501 | just fine |
| 21:12.21 | JeffM2501 | just was before there was a list server |
| 21:12.31 | JeffM2501 | windows build is a bit "iffy" |
| 21:12.46 | brlcad | hrm.. BZFS0102 .. which version was that.. :) |
| 21:12.59 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 21:14.23 | TheRedBaron | i wonder how long ezboard will keep the old forum up... |
| 21:14.47 | brlcad | $ /usr/demos/General_Demos/bzflag/bzfs -help |
| 21:14.47 | brlcad | BattleFlags server, version BZFS0102 |
| 21:14.47 | brlcad | usage: /usr/demos/General_Demos/bzflag/bzfs [-a <vel> <rot>] [-b] [-c] [+f <id>] [-f <id>] [-h] [-i interface] [-j] [-mp {<count>|[<count>],[<count>],[<count>],[<count>],[<count>]}] [-ms <shots>] [-p <port>] [-r] [{+s|-s} [<num>]] [-sa] [-st <time>] [-sw <num>] [-t] |
| 21:16.00 | bryjen | 1.7g was BZFS107e |
| 21:16.20 | brlcad | so probably 1.2 |
| 21:16.39 | brlcad | hey.. we'll be compatible here before long :) |
| 21:19.08 | *** join/#bzflag gina (~gigi@40.209-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 21:19.58 | Tupone | ciao gina |
| 21:21.33 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:21.42 | JeffM2501 | I never saw anything before 1.7 |
| 21:22.07 | bryjen | "BattleFlags" ? |
| 21:22.11 | JeffM2501 | surely there has to be some sort of reader for those disks on other OSs |
| 21:22.50 | JeffM2501 | maybe CRS wasn't sure on the name |
| 21:23.01 | brlcad | inst is their rpm/deb equivalent |
| 21:23.02 | JeffM2501 | or maybe it's nother piece ofht consipiracy!!!!! |
| 21:23.05 | brlcad | binary format |
| 21:23.09 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:23.24 | brlcad | basically a raw data disc that their software knows how to handle |
| 21:23.56 | brlcad | I tried to get the sucker to mount, but failed miserably with i/o errors |
| 21:24.05 | brlcad | i'll have to ask one of the other guys |
| 21:24.15 | JeffM2501 | or just ask the dude to mail the code to ya |
| 21:24.16 | brlcad | even still.. there's a slew of disks to search through |
| 21:24.19 | JeffM2501 | it can't be big. |
| 21:24.24 | brlcad | yeah |
| 21:24.38 | JeffM2501 | then I can get to portin |
| 21:24.46 | JeffM2501 | and the only cure |
| 21:24.49 | Nidhoggr | I found bzflag by doing a search for xtank |
| 21:24.50 | JeffM2501 | is more cowbell |
| 21:24.55 | Nidhoggr | which I never did find. |
| 21:24.59 | Nidhoggr | and bz was more fun :) |
| 21:25.08 | Nidhoggr | although xtank was cool. |
| 21:25.15 | TheRedBaron | NidHoggr, similar story here |
| 21:25.27 | JeffM2501 | this? |
| 21:25.27 | JeffM2501 | http://www.advogato.org/proj/xtank-revival/ |
| 21:25.28 | Nidhoggr | I still kinda miss xtank. |
| 21:25.28 | TheRedBaron | I was looking for a 3d tank game i played as a kid. and found bz instead |
| 21:26.15 | bryjen | http://freshmeat.net/projects/xtank/ |
| 21:26.21 | Nidhoggr | hrm. wow. |
| 21:26.27 | JeffM2501 | looks to be server based |
| 21:26.55 | bryjen | http://www.advogato.org/proj/xtank-revival/ |
| 21:26.56 | JeffM2501 | it's in apt |
| 21:27.03 | bryjen | google knows all |
| 21:27.11 | JeffM2501 | that's the link I posted :) |
| 21:28.23 | bryjen | whoops. i was off googling at that point |
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| 21:29.20 | JeffM2501 | I must know about the sounds tho |
| 21:29.36 | JeffM2501 | notice how when I asked Tim about the sounds, he loged off |
| 21:29.43 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 21:29.45 | JeffM2501 | he's going to tell the overlords! |
| 21:30.01 | bryjen | there was another tank game, xfirepower, that used X11's network transparency to do multiplayer by using multiple X displays |
| 21:30.19 | JeffM2501 | the description of xtank looks similar |
| 21:30.24 | JeffM2501 | using multiple displays |
| 21:30.41 | bryjen | makes 'em strictly LAN games |
| 21:30.46 | JeffM2501 | yeah\ |
| 21:30.59 | JeffM2501 | cross plat = right out |
| 21:33.06 | bryjen | well, anywhere X won't run |
| 21:33.22 | JeffM2501 | or would run poorly |
| 21:33.37 | bryjen | it'll do for many unixes, OSX, OS/2 |
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| 21:33.56 | JeffM2501 | oo OS2.. there is an untaped audience :) |
| 21:34.27 | JeffM2501 | wonder what the 4 OS/2 guys left in the world are doing :) |
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| 21:40.30 | bryjen | trading insults with the BeOS guys |
| 21:41.12 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:41.39 | JeffM2501 | you mean the BeOS Guy |
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| 21:47.05 | jacques | I used to play xtank |
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| 21:47.56 | jacques | some parts were quite cool, like that you built your tank and parts cost money - you could build a huge expensive tank with all the options but you would get very few points for killing a cheap tank, and they would get tons of points if they managed to kill you |
| 21:48.35 | m0nkey_poo | jacques: what game are you talking about? |
| 21:48.43 | jacques | also, there were tanks with tracks, wheels, and hover - they all drove differently |
| 21:48.52 | jacques | creeperz, xtank |
| 21:48.54 | blast007 | <jacques> I used to play xtank |
| 21:49.05 | creeperz | what system? |
| 21:49.11 | blast007 | you just missed that message ;) |
| 21:49.17 | jacques | old 2d game - guys were talking about it above |
| 21:49.45 | jacques | devs kept promising to make it a proper client/server arch, but never did |
| 21:49.48 | creeperz | modem is freakin out |
| 21:50.10 | jacques | in those days we could only dream of an open source 3d tank game |
| 21:51.12 | jacques | creeperz, I used to run a game on an IBM RS6000 running AIX3 displayed to a bunch of IBM X terminals |
| 21:52.21 | creeperz | wow |
| 21:52.38 | creeperz | i understood game and creeperz out of all of that :-) |
| 21:57.36 | TheRedBaron | http://p218.ezboard.com/bbzflag |
| 21:59.05 | jacques | ouch, why does WordFilter.cxx require so much ram to compile? |
| 22:00.19 | jacques | I'm running out of ram trying to build it :-\ |
| 22:03.43 | TheRedBaron | hmm somewhat of a bug discovery here... |
| 22:04.09 | TheRedBaron | I"m a brainwashed windows 2000 user, geforce 2 mx, current dirvers IIRC |
| 22:04.20 | TheRedBaron | bzflag 2.0 |
| 22:04.51 | TheRedBaron | if i change the quality settings at all, my FPS drops from a normal 75, to 10-20fps |
| 22:05.07 | TheRedBaron | if i alt-tab, and minimize bzflag, and then restore it |
| 22:05.29 | TheRedBaron | FPS returns to its normal 75fps. |
| 22:05.38 | TheRedBaron | bug or not? |
| 22:05.52 | jacques | OK reducing optimization on WordFilter.cxx to -O1 allows me to build it |
| 22:06.09 | blast007 | which quality setting did you switch from, and to? |
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| 22:06.33 | JeffM2501 | he returns! |
| 22:06.37 | TheRedBaron | anything i tired them all |
| 22:06.57 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, what do you know of the origin of bzflag's sounds? |
| 22:07.01 | TheRedBaron | from high to experimental, to low, to medium any setting.. |
| 22:08.05 | blast007 | is depth buffer on? smoothing? |
| 22:08.11 | TheRedBaron | yep |
| 22:08.15 | JeffM2501 | something probably just isn't reset |
| 22:08.53 | blast007 | yeah |
| 22:09.02 | brlcad | ~spell reservoir |
| 22:09.03 | ibot | 'reservoir' may be spelled correctly |
| 22:09.24 | TheRedBaron | my fault or clients fault? |
| 22:09.36 | JeffM2501 | probably the clients fault |
| 22:09.46 | JeffM2501 | changing a seting shoudn't realy screw anything up |
| 22:09.58 | JeffM2501 | thankfully it's not something that gets changed very often |
| 22:10.11 | JeffM2501 | if you quit and relaunch at the changed seting does it work better? |
| 22:10.20 | TheRedBaron | nope |
| 22:10.30 | TheRedBaron | only if i minimize bzflag and restore it |
| 22:10.38 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 22:10.39 | TheRedBaron | even tried uninstalling and reinstalling |
| 22:10.53 | JeffM2501 | that means the context just isn't reinited |
| 22:11.08 | JeffM2501 | run in experimental all the time :) |
| 22:11.10 | JeffM2501 | it's good for you |
| 22:11.36 | TheRedBaron | that's what i have it at |
| 22:11.43 | jacques | experimental is the only way to fly IMHO |
| 22:11.43 | JeffM2501 | and it's good or slow? |
| 22:11.54 | TheRedBaron | its a solid 75fps |
| 22:12.00 | JeffM2501 | then no problem :) |
| 22:12.06 | TheRedBaron | yep |
| 22:12.12 | JeffM2501 | everyone needs super wavy flags :) |
| 22:12.32 | TheRedBaron | well, i only stare at the radar... ;) |
| 22:12.41 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: not much. crs might be the one to ask. I've asked about the ones that get added to be sure of the licensing, but don't recall the original sources. |
| 22:12.51 | TheRedBaron | well 75-80%of the time. |
| 22:13.08 | JeffM2501 | I found a binary for the other tank game he mentioned in his "history" page, and it has the same sounds. TimRiker |
| 22:13.14 | JeffM2501 | the "BZ" one |
| 22:13.26 | JeffM2501 | just wondering if they came from a common source |
| 22:13.32 | JeffM2501 | or if one ganked from another |
| 22:13.40 | JeffM2501 | or if it's all part of some large conspiracy |
| 22:13.42 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 22:14.43 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: probably a conspiracy. |
| 22:14.49 | jacques | I always go with conspiracy |
| 22:15.18 | jacques | I used to see them in houston industrial section |
| 22:15.29 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: the BZ you found was the early bzflag bz? or the other Jeff Somebody bz? |
| 22:15.31 | JeffM2501 | see that's what I"M thinking |
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| 22:15.41 | JeffM2501 | the other jeff' |
| 22:15.47 | JeffM2501 | the one that is just 'bz' |
| 22:15.53 | JeffM2501 | with mines |
| 22:16.08 | TheRedBaron | woa... Jeff clones? |
| 22:16.13 | JeffM2501 | bzflag's flag pickup and drop sonds are it's mine drop and pickup sounds |
| 22:16.32 | JeffM2501 | http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/bz.tar.Z |
| 22:17.06 | JeffM2501 | maybe I am secretly the "other" jeff :) |
| 22:17.44 | brlcad | not jeff |
| 22:17.49 | brlcad | Chris Fouts |
| 22:17.56 | TimRiker | ah. chris. that's it. |
| 22:17.56 | JeffM2501 | maybe I'm the other chris |
| 22:18.00 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 22:18.03 | brlcad | more likely I am :) |
| 22:18.10 | TimRiker | * is now known as NotChris |
| 22:18.16 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:18.22 | TheRedBaron | hey, no fair playing with my mind like this... |
| 22:18.27 | TheRedBaron | its unethical |
| 22:18.29 | JeffM2501 | bz's pause sound is funny |
| 22:18.45 | TheRedBaron | bz has a pause sound? |
| 22:18.51 | jacques | bz has pause? |
| 22:18.52 | JeffM2501 | 'bz' does |
| 22:18.52 | TheRedBaron | 1.10 or 2.0? |
| 22:18.54 | jacques | :-) |
| 22:19.01 | JeffM2501 | 'bzflag' does not |
| 22:19.12 | JeffM2501 | they are not the same |
| 22:19.13 | jacques | my problem is I forget bzflag has "quit" |
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| 22:20.14 | TheRedBaron | ~slap NotChris |
| 22:20.16 | ibot | ACTION slaps NotChris, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:21.52 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you just going to ask the other chris? |
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| 22:24.01 | TheRedBaron | so is it someone is creating a mutated bzflag clone and is stealing the sounds or...? |
| 22:24.20 | TheRedBaron | do i need to upgrade my tinfoil hat? |
| 22:24.30 | JeffM2501 | no, it's another game that came out about the same time. |
| 22:24.55 | JeffM2501 | they are "suposed" to be independent. |
| 22:25.02 | JeffM2501 | but they share sounds |
| 22:25.05 | JeffM2501 | hence my curiosity |
| 22:28.38 | TheRedBaron | hmm, yea, its definately conspiracy... |
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| 22:30.06 | retro | ~seen DTRemenak |
| 22:30.18 | ibot | dtremenak <~DTRemenak@DHCP-170-84.caltech.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 55m 35s ago, saying: 'guu: are you 10?'. |
| 22:30.19 | DTRemenak | heya retro |
| 22:30.49 | retro | hey, I just picked up my new Radeon 9800. I hope to get it all working tonight for some good bzflag battles. |
| 22:31.00 | TheRedBaron | hmm did you try googling "chris fouts" |
| 22:31.03 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 22:31.31 | retro | I'm very excited. This thing sucks power too. I need to connect it to a disk drive power connector! |
| 22:36.47 | DTRemenak | :) |
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| 22:43.34 | TheRedBaron | cya guys later, home again home agian, jiggety jig, jig, |
| 22:47.10 | brlcad | JeffM2501: yep |
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| 22:53.49 | JeffM2501 | kewl |
| 23:24.13 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, would you say this is a correct statement? "David Trowbridge made the linux bzedit. It is a difrent app. David would not touch MFC with a 10 meter cattle prod" |
| 23:24.41 | JeffM2501 | well you may stab it with the cattle prod in an attempt to kill it |
| 23:25.08 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i'd be afraid that it would travel along the prod and get me |
| 23:25.30 | JeffM2501 | it has been known to do that. |
| 23:26.21 | sgk284 | so... how about this... you can fly right in front of a person with gm and get shot a million times and live as long as your within a certain range |
| 23:26.31 | sgk284 | literally fly on top of the gm and just laugh |
| 23:26.40 | sgk284 | hw should get credit for finding the bug |
| 23:27.14 | JeffM2501 | that's not a bug |
| 23:27.16 | JeffM2501 | it's a feature |
| 23:27.18 | sgk284 | its not? |
| 23:27.20 | sgk284 | lol |
| 23:27.22 | JeffM2501 | GM has an activate time |
| 23:27.32 | JeffM2501 | GM is not leathal for 0.5 seconds |
| 23:27.38 | JeffM2501 | it's a bzdb variable |
| 23:27.39 | JeffM2501 | setable |
| 23:27.43 | sgk284 | yes but the activate time should be .5 seconds until it starts tracking, not until its deadly |
| 23:27.53 | JeffM2501 | they are one and the same |
| 23:28.01 | creeperz | is that what was causing the shoot *boom* thing before? |
| 23:28.02 | JeffM2501 | it's a chink in the GM's power |
| 23:28.03 | blast007 | was that put in to prevent shooting yourself with GM? :) |
| 23:28.11 | creeperz | where you would move forward and shoot and kill yourself? |
| 23:28.17 | blast007 | yeah |
| 23:28.18 | JeffM2501 | it was put in for a weakness and to help prevent that yes |
| 23:28.25 | blast007 | k |
| 23:28.30 | JeffM2501 | you can set it on your server |
| 23:28.36 | bryjen | yeah, it's a fix for whatever was letting people drive into the GM they just fired |
| 23:28.38 | JeffM2501 | to whatever you want |
| 23:29.17 | JeffM2501 | it was made setable so server ops could customise it to how they wanted play to be |
| 23:29.20 | JeffM2501 | so it's not a bug |
| 23:29.25 | JeffM2501 | it's a customiseable feature |
| 23:29.30 | JeffM2501 | set it to 0 :) |
| 23:29.39 | JeffM2501 | none reads bzbb |
| 23:29.40 | bryjen | or 30 |
| 23:32.22 | trepan | you get hammers at home hardware |
| 23:32.24 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, the map makers were accusing you of working on windows bzedit |
| 23:32.35 | JeffM2501 | trepan, what about free hammers |
| 23:32.38 | JeffM2501 | where do you get those? |
| 23:32.45 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: egads! |
| 23:32.56 | trepan | the back loading bay of home hardware |
| 23:32.57 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, I set them straight |
| 23:33.02 | JeffM2501 | trepan, no you use rocks |
| 23:33.03 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: good man |
| 23:33.09 | JeffM2501 | rocks are free |
| 23:33.48 | JeffM2501 | to me it looks like they all trying to beat 2.0 features into bzedit with rocks |
| 23:33.49 | trepan | you use rocks to throw off buildings to test gravity |
| 23:33.51 | JeffM2501 | caveman style |
| 23:34.00 | JeffM2501 | all stiting in a circle |
| 23:34.03 | JeffM2501 | grunting. |
| 23:34.06 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:34.14 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:34.15 | JeffM2501 | "uhhh.. it have models yet?" |
| 23:34.37 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, but that means they'd have to learn to model. |
| 23:34.42 | JeffM2501 | they want to drag boxes around. |
| 23:35.50 | trepan | ize gotz no skilz |
| 23:36.03 | trepan | (or interest) |
| 23:36.07 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:36.12 | purple_cow | i've got other things to work on for the time being |
| 23:37.17 | trepan | just bought the D. Adams trilogy, it's much more appealing at the moment |
| 23:37.21 | blast007 | is there a way to force blender to use software rendering in Windows? |
| 23:37.25 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: prolly |
| 23:37.37 | JeffM2501 | trepan, the 5 book "trillogy" :) |
| 23:37.41 | blast007 | in hardware it gets all blurred :) |
| 23:37.43 | trepan | ya :) |
| 23:37.51 | JeffM2501 | they are making a movie |
| 23:37.57 | purple_cow | blast007: you should probably just turn off FSAA :P |
| 23:38.07 | trepan | JeffM2501: all the Chapters store were out, had to hunt it down |
| 23:38.56 | blast007 | heh, don't have that anyway ;) |
| 23:39.02 | blast007 | only an 8MB savage |
| 23:39.09 | purple_cow | it shouldn't be blurred if you're not using fsaa :P |
| 23:39.32 | JeffM2501 | Full Screen Anti Aliasing |
| 23:39.38 | blast007 | well, my card doesn't do OpenGL very well, and the buttons leave trails when I mouse over them |
| 23:39.46 | JeffM2501 | what card? |
| 23:40.07 | blast007 | Savage IX :P |
| 23:40.22 | JeffM2501 | doubt it even does FSAA |
| 23:40.28 | blast007 | it doesn't |
| 23:40.30 | JeffM2501 | oh and... |
| 23:40.32 | JeffM2501 | BURN IT!!! |
| 23:40.35 | JeffM2501 | allmost forgot |
| 23:40.37 | blast007 | it can't even do half the screen ;) |
| 23:41.01 | JeffM2501 | doubt it can even do a compliant GL implementation |
| 23:41.16 | blast007 | ThinkPad T20, so I can't upgrade it |
| 23:41.39 | blast007 | I'll just have to use my desktop PC, or turn down the acceleration in the display properties |
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