| 00:01.14 | Chestal | trepan: join seems to take about half the time now |
| 00:05.03 | trepan | Chestal: cool about the speedup, and yup about the options |
| 00:05.46 | trepan | Chestal: i'll do a couple of other easy tweaks and see if I can speed it up easily |
| 00:06.06 | trepan | (already have 2 done) |
| 00:08.56 | trepan | Chestal: the two with any clear category are opacity and mousebox, opacity could go in display, and mousebox in ... display? ;) |
| 00:09.05 | trepan | s/with/without |
| 00:09.44 | Chestal | locale? |
| 00:10.08 | trepan | i'd put that in text |
| 00:10.32 | Chestal | control panel tabs? |
| 00:10.37 | trepan | text |
| 00:10.47 | Chestal | hmm, stretches that category a little IMHO :-) |
| 00:10.47 | trepan | i'd also take smoothing out of display, and put it into radar |
| 00:11.49 | trepan | oops, BZDBCache::smooth is also in HUDRenderer |
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| 00:15.11 | Chestal | hmm, 3D/3DOptionsManager seems to be unused class |
| 00:15.44 | trepan | 3 files in 3D are unused |
| 00:16.09 | trepan | DrawablesManager.cxx and DisplayListManager.cxx too |
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| 00:43.51 | trepan | Chestal: Collision Octree processed in 0.599 seconds, getting there :) |
| 00:45.46 | Chestal | good good :-) |
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| 00:57.10 | [shorty114] | hmm mirc sucks |
| 00:57.17 | [shorty114] | it's shareware too :( |
| 00:57.19 | [shorty114] | oh well |
| 00:57.28 | [shorty114] | i clicked on the irc:// link by accident anyway >D |
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| 00:57.34 | blast007 | lol |
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| 01:04.55 | shorty114 | lol |
| 01:05.02 | shorty114 | i was on my dad's windoze machine >.< |
| 01:05.11 | shorty114 | i forgot that mIRC is the only client >D |
| 01:05.30 | Silver[a] | shorty114, you can always ssh and use something text based. |
| 01:05.48 | shorty114 | Silver[a]: on a windoze machine? |
| 01:05.50 | JeffM2501 | huh? there are a number of windows IRC clients |
| 01:05.56 | JeffM2501 | like ohh... Xchat |
| 01:05.57 | shorty114 | xchat, mirc |
| 01:06.07 | JeffM2501 | there are many more |
| 01:06.11 | shorty114 | yeah |
| 01:06.11 | JeffM2501 | those are just the popular ones |
| 01:06.13 | shorty114 | biatchx |
| 01:06.22 | shorty114 | oh wait that's UNIX only |
| 01:06.29 | shorty114 | unless there's a windoze version... |
| 01:06.40 | JeffM2501 | full unix, wow |
| 01:08.08 | tapo | visualIRC is free (instead of xchat/win) |
| 01:09.48 | shorty114 | xchat is free too |
| 01:09.55 | shorty114 | http://www.silverex.info/ |
| 01:10.05 | shorty114 | (not the shareware xchat) |
| 01:10.27 | JeffM2501 | they charge for the build |
| 01:10.29 | JeffM2501 | you can get the old one |
| 01:10.32 | JeffM2501 | or a build not from them |
| 01:12.20 | shorty114 | silverex makes free builds |
| 01:12.29 | shorty114 | he's kept xchat alive on windows |
| 01:12.39 | JeffM2501 | umm |
| 01:12.42 | JeffM2501 | it's not "dead" |
| 01:12.45 | shorty114 | hmph |
| 01:12.48 | JeffM2501 | so why would he be keeping it alive? |
| 01:12.55 | shorty114 | because he made a free build |
| 01:13.04 | shorty114 | the windows buid on xchat.org became shareware |
| 01:13.04 | JeffM2501 | that dosn't change the codebase |
| 01:13.06 | JeffM2501 | he's just nice |
| 01:13.16 | shorty114 | people don't use it, it becomes dead. |
| 01:13.28 | JeffM2501 | the same codebase is for all versions |
| 01:13.30 | shorty114 | yeah |
| 01:13.31 | shorty114 | so? |
| 01:13.35 | JeffM2501 | so it can't die till the linux one does |
| 01:13.44 | JeffM2501 | wether they charge for builds or not |
| 01:13.46 | shorty114 | xchat on windows will die, if it's all shareware |
| 01:13.51 | JeffM2501 | no it won't |
| 01:14.00 | shorty114 | you need users |
| 01:14.02 | JeffM2501 | many people are gratefull for it and will pay for the builds |
| 01:14.06 | shorty114 | o.O |
| 01:14.11 | JeffM2501 | kids just don't get that |
| 01:14.14 | shorty114 | even with a free build round the corner? |
| 01:14.17 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 01:14.23 | JeffM2501 | to support the people who make it |
| 01:14.40 | JeffM2501 | you give money to freenode don't you? |
| 01:14.44 | JeffM2501 | to support the network? |
| 01:14.49 | JeffM2501 | bandwith and time arn't free |
| 01:14.58 | JeffM2501 | no mater how you "license" them |
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| 01:21.27 | Elspuddy | hi, any one know what ports i got to open to run a bzflag server ? |
| 01:25.51 | learner | 5154 |
| 01:25.57 | learner | or whatever port you run it on |
| 01:27.46 | Elspuddy | thanks :) |
| 01:30.39 | trepan | Chestal: that commit should be another 3X or 4X improvement, i hope |
| 01:35.14 | purple_cow | learner: cool, slashdotted :) |
| 01:35.44 | learner | =) |
| 01:36.18 | learner | it's finally done .. |
| 01:36.20 | purple_cow | congrats on the release |
| 01:36.25 | learner | thanks |
| 01:36.35 | learner | seems like it took forever |
| 01:37.34 | purple_cow | hmm...siggraph |
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| 01:38.26 | learner | we actually released over about two weeks ago, but we weren't authorized to talk about it. |
| 01:38.48 | purple_cow | hmm, 11 may deadline for posters |
| 01:38.59 | purple_cow | that gives us a few months to rewrite fyre |
| 01:39.01 | learner | monday, we got approval.. took 6 days for /. to post it |
| 01:39.08 | learner | hehe |
| 01:39.18 | purple_cow | well, we've got big plans ;) |
| 01:39.27 | purple_cow | we're suffering from the same problem as opengl 1.x |
| 01:39.48 | learner | you have pressure from industry to fight direct-x too? |
| 01:39.57 | purple_cow | we've got a fixed-function pipeline that's starting to show its age, and we can either rewrite to be generic and programmable or continue to stuff more things into it |
| 01:40.52 | purple_cow | nono |
| 01:40.54 | purple_cow | "inject" |
| 01:42.59 | DTRemenak | inflate? |
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| 01:55.54 | DTRemenak | CollisionManager.cxx: In member function `void ColDetNode::resizeCell()': |
| 01:55.56 | DTRemenak | CollisionManager.cxx:735: error: `getExtents' undeclared (first use this function |
| 01:56.42 | trepan | DTRemenak: crap, one sec |
| 01:58.02 | trepan | DTRemenak: committed |
| 01:58.53 | DTRemenak | thx :) |
| 01:59.05 | trepan | likewise |
| 02:02.16 | trepan | ~learner++ |
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| 02:06.02 | shorty114 | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 02:06.14 | shorty114 | ~trepan++ |
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| 02:31.53 | Tupone | ~learner++ |
| 02:32.18 | learner | ciao :) |
| 02:32.36 | Tupone | ciao |
| 02:33.08 | shorty114 | ~tupone++ |
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| 03:21.44 | Legoguy | trepan: I have a question for you before I get much farther with putting ProFont into bzflag.. is the font rendering system able to display semi-transparent PNG's as they are, or does it round it to fully-transparent or fully-opaque? |
| 03:22.25 | learner | yay, profont |
| 03:22.49 | Legoguy | can't live without it, it's my monospace font of choice ;) |
| 03:23.33 | trepan | Legoguy: it supports translucency |
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| 03:36.41 | learner | uh, you were running vnc at 1280x1024.. |
| 03:37.55 | learner | ~ww |
| 03:37.56 | ibot | Thanks for wasting our time yet again by telling us "ww" |
| 03:38.03 | learner | yw |
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