irclog2html for #bzflag on 20040721

`00:00.01`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh I had to refresh again :)`
`00:00.30`	`Patlabor221`	`tho a gray one with the little front may be nice`
`00:00.37`	`menotume`	`sticker and mousepad got rotated :)`
`00:01.19`	`TimRikerOLS`	`hmm. not showing up yet...`
`00:01.48`	`TimRikerOLS`	`ah, reload did it for me too.`
`00:02.06`	`TimRikerOLS`	`menotume: new feature of the site, so I converted em to use it.`
`00:02.18`	`menotume`	`ahhh, kewl`
`00:03.46`	`TimRikerOLS`	`menotume: hmm. did you order before or after I changed the layout? /me wonders which layout menotume will get.`
`00:03.58`	`menotume`	`before :)`
`00:04.37`	`menotume`	`I got the ash grey tee, and white tee with 'you were saying' on front`
`00:06.19`	`menotume`	`TimRikerOLS: ash grey tee (nutshell front)`
`00:07.47`	`menotume`	`TimRikerOLS: Will be interesting to see what I get - either is fine w/me`
`00:08.49`	`TimRikerOLS`	`menotume: cool. well if you get the "wrong" one you could complain and see if they send you the "right" on too. ;-)`
`00:08.58`	`menotume`	`lol`
`00:09.18`	`TimRikerOLS`	`might help to mention that if both items could exist on the same site, they would not have this "problem".`
`00:09.39`	`menotume`	`ahhh, gotya`
`00:09.41`	`Patlabor221`	`hah, OpenGLState.cpp will rue the day it looked at me funny! :)`
`00:09.55`	`Patlabor221`	`cafepress has gone evil`
`00:10.01`	`Patlabor221`	`they will not listen`
`00:10.22`	`menotume`	`must mean they're making too much money.`
`00:11.40`	`menotume`	`ahhh, only one design per 'product', i c`
`00:12.34`	`Patlabor221`	`most people just make a site per product`
`00:12.38`	`Patlabor221`	`well per design`
`00:16.46`	`Patlabor221`	`whilst I know that the shot in this screenshot is messed up, it realy looks ominous :)`
`00:16.47`	`Patlabor221`	`http://sasami.bakadigital.com/temp/mesedupshots.png`
`00:16.52`	`Patlabor221`	`like firing a black hole`
`00:18.46`	`TimRikerOLS`	`cool.`
`00:19.21`	`Patlabor221`	`tho that shot does have an alpha shadow`
`00:20.03`	`Patlabor221`	`no stence = good :)`
`00:20.08`	`Patlabor221`	`stencel`
`00:20.26`	`Patlabor221`	`I should make tanks fall in the hole :)`
`00:20.41`	`Patlabor221`	`and apear from a random teleporter`
`00:22.03`	`CIA-4`	`BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: a bunch of small optimizations, mostly in favor of memory and space.`
`00:27.04`	`Patlabor221`	`feels good to mod 53 files in 11 dirs :)`
`00:29.53`	`lan56`	`I saw you make a 1000+ file commit last week, now -that's- neat :)`
`00:29.58`	`lan56`	`to FS I mean`
`00:31.21`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh that`
`00:31.24`	`Patlabor221`	`that's been removed`
`00:31.32`	`Patlabor221`	`well "moved"`
`00:31.35`	`*** join/#bzflag Noodlema1 (~tuckerm@bc11448.bendcable.com)`
`00:32.54`	`Patlabor221`	`this was a change to those 1000 files`
`00:35.41`	`Patlabor221`	`OpenGLState and OpenGLStateBuilder must die`
`00:41.26`	`brlcad`	`TimRikerOLS: OLS again already?`
`00:44.59`	`brlcad`	`heh, lan56 undid a bunch of the vc5 things..`
`00:46.08`	`Patlabor221`	`sigh`
`00:46.22`	`Patlabor221`	`how much mem did he save?`
`00:47.01`	`brlcad`	`heh, none that I can see`
`00:47.14`	`Patlabor221`	`what did he do?`
`00:47.17`	`brlcad`	`just reinserting a bunch of the for (int i = .. things`
`00:47.30`	`Patlabor221`	`oh`
`00:47.35`	`Patlabor221`	`5 and 6 don't like that`
`00:47.44`	`Patlabor221`	`lan56, undo that commit`
`00:47.48`	`brlcad`	`yeah, I recall mac always needing to undo my code for that`
`00:47.49`	`Patlabor221`	`you'll break windows compilers`
`00:47.50`	`DTRemenak`	`brlcad: no, still works ok - I looked at each one, they're all each the only for loop in that function`
`00:47.56`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhhhh`
`00:48.00`	`Patlabor221`	`then nevermind :)`
`00:48.01`	`DTRemenak`	`and it still compiles, which is more important`
`00:48.02`	`brlcad`	`ah, lucky him :)`
`00:48.08`	`Patlabor221`	`so he saved 4 bytes`
`00:48.12`	`DTRemenak`	`otherwise I already would have demanded that he revert it :)`
`00:48.24`	`scanline`	`how would that save memory?`
`00:48.35`	`Patlabor221`	`oh it won't`
`00:48.37`	`Patlabor221`	`nevermind :)`
`00:48.42`	`Patlabor221`	`scanline is back!`
`00:48.43`	`DTRemenak`	`it will on vc`
`00:49.07`	`lan56`	`sorry, was reading some email and sending a few back, about the commit, revert or not?`
`00:49.29`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: not necessary to revert - probably was not necessary to commit either`
`00:49.35`	`brlcad`	`oo interesting.. "A Brief Journey Through the History of Gun Propulsion" .. should probably attend that`
`00:49.37`	`DTRemenak`	`doesn't break anything`
`00:49.46`	`Patlabor221`	`tell him the limts on VC tho so he knows`
`00:49.50`	`lan56`	`alright, optimizing, cleaning up, whatever you want to call it`
`00:50.03`	`lan56`	`revert or not is what I am looking for`
`00:50.12`	`brlcad`	`not`
`00:50.20`	`lan56`	`good, all I needed`
`00:51.33`	`lan56`	`then, mind if I implement checkArgc() into bzflag.cxx?`
`00:51.54`	`DTRemenak`	`for future reference: vc and gcc have different rules for scoping of variables declared as parameters in for loops - safest is to declare outside the loop`
`00:52.19`	`brlcad`	`lan56: have at it`
`00:52.25`	`lan56`	`what I tried to do in some of that commit is declare the variables one line before they are used`
`00:52.48`	`DTRemenak`	`vc leaves it in function scope, so you can do for(int i = 0...) and then for(i = 0...)`
`00:52.57`	`brlcad`	`lan56: the intent was perfectly fine, and ideal -- didn't mean to raise alarm`
`00:53.03`	`brlcad`	`and according to the spec`
`00:53.12`	`DTRemenak`	`gcc scopes it inside the for, so you can do for(int i = 0...) then for (int i = 0...)`
`00:53.13`	`lan56`	`if they are declared 5+ lines before ues, for example, no harm, but it would be nicer to have it right when its needed`
`00:53.27`	`lan56`	`I know, no bothers`
`00:53.47`	`brlcad`	`unfortunately the older compilers "may" choke on the for(int declared_here;...) under the right conditions`
`00:54.00`	`DTRemenak`	`so if you have more than one for loop in a function using the same iterator var, the only way to make both compilers happy is to declare it before the first loop, not in it.`
`00:54.16`	`brlcad`	`or use different iterator names :)`
`00:54.30`	`lan56`	`that's what I did for functions that used an iterator var more than once`
`00:54.33`	`DTRemenak`	`yeah, or that, but if he's working on efficiency, that's not a good solution :)`
`00:54.41`	`p0xy`	`i have preliminary stuff done for the project im working on`
`00:54.49`	`lan56`	`what project would that be?`
`00:55.14`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: you did the right thing, I was just explaining why that's the convention`
`00:55.31`	`lan56`	`I know, I got you, no bothers at all, only learned more`
`00:55.56`	`p0xy`	`im going to make bzfs execve a new binary and keep all the players`
`00:56.16`	`lan56`	`have bzfs use a separate binary to store player data`
`00:56.24`	`lan56`	`s/\n/?`
`00:56.44`	`p0xy`	`it's going to write state info, execute the new bzflag with a sepcial option, read in state info, and play`
`00:57.26`	`p0xy`	`the code isnt beautiful, but i tried not to butcher anything i didnt need to`
`00:59.27`	`brlcad`	`there's no such thing as beautiful code`
`00:59.30`	`brlcad`	`unless it's my code`
`00:59.33`	`brlcad`	`ahem :)`
`00:59.38`	`lan56`	`which is then even uglier :)`
`00:59.45`	`brlcad`	`damn straight`
`00:59.49`	`lan56`	`:)`
`01:00.02`	`p0xy`	`proof of concept == good`
`01:00.17`	`DTRemenak`	`only if the concept is good to begin with ;)`
`01:00.30`	`p0xy`	`of course it is. it's mine`
`01:01.22`	`lan56`	`In my opinion, I feel that bzadmin has the ugliest unorganized code, with each function having '{' after the declaration instead on next line, and the indenting style is unexpected in some parts of bzadminclient.cxx, and a bunch of other little rocks here and there`
`01:01.43`	`p0xy`	`i like function() {`
`01:01.58`	`lan56`	`I feel it's confusing with a scope inside a function`
`01:02.02`	`Patlabor221`	`bzflag does func() {`
`01:02.15`	`p0xy`	`oh you're a c++ programmer... something i've never ever really done`
`01:02.35`	`Patlabor221`	`it is funky, it's what they do tho`
`01:02.56`	`Patlabor221`	`consitency is the most important thing`
`01:03.04`	`lan56`	`true, true, function() { is common, but I feel it is too ugly :)`
`01:03.06`	`lan56`	`sure`
`01:03.21`	`Patlabor221`	`then submit your APT and change it :)`
`01:03.29`	`lan56`	`I will, soon :)`
`01:04.08`	`lan56`	`although, APT aren't too funny to abuse because you can't tell if someone had intentions to register a new project with an existing UNIX name, or they mean to take over the existing project, as in, no new project with same nam`
`01:04.40`	`Patlabor221`	`you could make bzflagLE`
`01:04.46`	`Patlabor221`	`Lan Edition`
`01:04.52`	`lan56`	`how true :)`
`01:05.13`	`lan56`	`or bzflagPL`
`01:05.20`	`brlcad`	`lan56: re bzadmin, that's not organization -- that's style (and he actually follows the more popular convention)`
`01:05.25`	`Patlabor221`	`naw, I am using a beter name`
`01:05.27`	`lan56`	`#define bzflagPL firestarter`
`01:05.33`	`Patlabor221`	`fs is dead`
`01:05.37`	`Patlabor221`	`no help`
`01:05.38`	`lan56`	`brlcad: exactly`
`01:05.39`	`Patlabor221`	`= dead`
`01:05.42`	`lan56`	`fs is dead ??!?!?!?!`
`01:05.48`	`lan56`	`that's a shocker to me`
`01:05.51`	`brlcad`	`~shoot fs`
`01:05.53`	`ibot`	`ACTION shoots fs in the head.`
`01:06.08`	`lan56`	`nah, are you kidding? then why do you keep commiting t oit?`
`01:06.15`	`lan56`	`s/t oit/to it`
`01:06.19`	`Patlabor221`	`when was my last commit?`
`01:06.26`	`Patlabor221`	`and what was that last commit?`
`01:06.28`	`lan56`	`well, I suppose just like two days ago`
`01:06.36`	`lan56`	`I suppose sound manage?`
`01:06.47`	`Patlabor221`	`last commit was removing over 1000 files`
`01:06.55`	`lan56`	`why?`
`01:07.01`	`Patlabor221`	`then a commit to a difrent diectory of those same files`
`01:07.10`	`lan56`	`how is that mean it is dead?`
`01:07.25`	`Patlabor221`	`the difrent directory was not in trunk/firestarter`
`01:07.39`	`lan56`	`then what?`
`01:07.47`	`Patlabor221`	`a difrent dir`
`01:07.49`	`lan56`	`/recycle bin/?`
`01:07.54`	`Patlabor221`	`umm no`
`01:08.11`	`Patlabor221`	`you seem to be following the commits, I ausmed you had seen`
`01:08.28`	`lan56`	`I saw 1000 files, just not the directory change`
`01:08.31`	`lan56`	`either way`
`01:08.36`	`lan56`	`is it officially dead?`
`01:08.40`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh you only look here`
`01:08.40`	`lan56`	`work stopped?`
`01:08.45`	`lan56`	`yes`
`01:08.52`	`lan56`	`I only look at CIA stuff`
`01:08.52`	`Patlabor221`	`noone wishes to help me, so I see no reason to continue on it`
`01:09.08`	`Patlabor221`	`it is not my intent to do all things alone`
`01:09.17`	`Patlabor221`	`CIA exists in many more channels then this one`
`01:09.24`	`lan56`	`register it on sf.net, and get project help`
`01:09.39`	`Patlabor221`	`again I state that you don't seem to read here much :)`
`01:09.48`	`lan56`	`there are more developers living than there are jobs for them`
`01:09.50`	`lan56`	`no`
`01:09.51`	`lan56`	`:)`
`01:10.21`	`lan56`	`I also am not on 24/7 or close to it`
`01:10.53`	`Patlabor221`	`you've been here :)`
`01:11.01`	`lan56`	`true :)`
`01:11.30`	`lan56`	`but like today this is my first appearance for today`
`01:11.35`	`Patlabor221`	`the folder in question has had 23 events since it's inception`
`01:12.04`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`01:12.09`	`Patlabor221`	`tho most of that is removal and breaking stuff :)`
`01:12.17`	`Patlabor221`	`like making shots look like blackholes :)`
`01:12.33`	`lan56`	`you don't even want to continue fs just for fun?`
`01:12.38`	`lan56`	`like as a time killer?`
`01:13.58`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`01:15.06`	`scanline`	`lan56: I think CIA missed that commit- it was so big that it got truncated somewhere and didn't parse`
`01:15.29`	`lan56`	`scanline: no, it told that one`
`01:15.43`	`scanline`	`link?`
`01:15.59`	`lan56`	`<CIA-4> BZFlag: lan56 * bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: a bunch of small optimizations, mostly in favor of memory and space.`
`01:16.09`	`lan56`	`that infamous commit :)`
`01:16.14`	`scanline`	`oh, I thought you were talking about firestarter`
`01:16.24`	`lan56`	`oh, that I don't know`
`01:16.33`	`lan56`	`I mean, the 1000 file one did show`
`01:16.42`	`lan56`	`wait, which one are you talking about?`
`01:16.53`	`scanline`	`I was talking about the 1000 file one`
`01:17.01`	`lan56`	`yes, that went thorugh`
`01:17.03`	`scanline`	`I thought that got eaten by the HTTP server's maximum request size limit`
`01:17.12`	`DTRemenak`	`07:54.08CIA-1navi-misc: 03jeffm * r4752 10firestarter/GTX/ (1376 files in 62 dirs): add GTX sub project`
`01:17.18`	`DTRemenak`	`from http://ibot.rikers.org/bzflag/20040713.html.gz`
`01:17.26`	`scanline`	`oh, wow`
`01:17.38`	`lan56`	`only a freak would know the exact line commits are on :)`
`01:17.40`	`scanline`	`that one was about 14MB :P`
`01:18.13`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: mozilla has this cool find-ahead feature - I just typed /firestarter and copied that line`
`01:18.13`	`scanline`	`hmm`
`01:18.21`	`scanline`	`looks like it showed up on IRC, but it's missing from the database`
`01:18.24`	`lan56`	`wow, that sounds neat`
`01:18.36`	`scanline`	`so I guess it hit a size limit in MySQL, not in the HTTP server`
`01:19.33`	`scanline`	`what's this opencombat thing?`
`01:19.37`	`scanline`	`looks a lot like a bzflag fork`
`01:20.07`	`p0xy`	`good think bzflag is bsd licensed`
`01:20.15`	`p0xy`	`s/nk/ng/`
`01:20.28`	`scanline`	`?`
`01:20.40`	`DTRemenak`	`p0xy: ?`
`01:20.45`	`lan56`	`it's lgpl`
`01:21.02`	`DTRemenak`	`scanline: Branch of BZFlag, expanding on gameplay and supporting newer graphic techonologies. Will include new tank models, new player types, and many graphical enhacmentes. Full integrated team and league management is planned."`
`01:21.04`	`p0xy`	`should be ngpl`
`01:21.09`	`DTRemenak`	`from http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=991681&group_id=1&atid=647949`
`01:21.17`	`lan56`	`poxy: ngpl?`
`01:21.22`	`p0xy`	`dont ask, i dont want to troll`
`01:21.43`	`lan56`	`then I don't know what ngpl is, so tell`
`01:21.45`	`scanline`	`DTRemenak: hmm.. that implies that it will get merged with bzflag at some point :P`
`01:21.45`	`lan56`	`we won't mind`
`01:21.51`	`p0xy`	`non-gpl :P`
`01:21.51`	`DTRemenak`	`p0xy: but you're so good at trolling ;)`
`01:22.09`	`lan56`	`poxy: ahh, you see what you can do when you try`
`01:22.16`	`DTRemenak`	`scanline: "It is planed to move as much code back into bzflag as that project desires, when sections of this project are stable." (from same page)`
`01:22.16`	`*** join/#bzflag MeBigFatGuy (~dave@balt-209-150-117-13.dynamic-dial.qis.net)`
`01:22.17`	`*** join/#bzflag bryjen (bryjen@69-166-141-2.clvdoh.adelphia.net)`
`01:22.19`	`p0xy`	`let's say I have an argv... I want to add ONE more "command line option"... how do you suggest that I do this?`
`01:22.25`	`scanline`	`DTRemenak: ah ;)`
`01:22.35`	`Nidhoggr`	`MeBigFatGuy: hiya`
`01:22.41`	`lan56`	`you mean you want to append a string to argv[]?`
`01:22.42`	`MeBigFatGuy`	`heya`
`01:22.47`	`p0xy`	`sure, lan56`
`01:22.58`	`scanline`	`p0xy: no portable way to do that except allocate a new argv array and copy the existing entries plus the new one in`
`01:23.00`	`lan56`	`just argv[argc] = ANYTHING_HERE`
`01:23.08`	`scanline`	`lan56: bad!`
`01:23.12`	`lan56`	`but argv isn't const`
`01:23.26`	`p0xy`	`but its size is defined at startup and cant grow`
`01:23.30`	`MeBigFatGuy`	`prolly would get away with it, as argv is prolly defined as an array of 255 or so`
`01:23.33`	`scanline`	`lan56: you don't know how much memory the OS has allocated for that so you could be stomping on things, plus argv[argc] should always be NULL`
`01:23.33`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`01:23.49`	`lan56`	`wow, I feel so dirty :)`
`01:23.52`	`p0xy`	`you are`
`01:24.13`	`lan56`	`hah :)`
`01:25.06`	`p0xy`	`my c convention seems to be "two spaces per indent"`
`01:25.07`	`brlcad`	`TimRikerOLS: ping .. I'm creating an account on cafepress.com .. care to give me a referrer id?`
`01:25.28`	`brlcad`	`howdy MeBigFatGuy`
`01:25.35`	`MeBigFatGuy`	`heya`
`01:27.12`	`guu`	`New news from bzgirl: loving my little mutt`
`01:29.22`	`p0xy`	`wtf`
`01:29.29`	`lan56`	`what?`
`01:30.13`	`CIA-4`	`BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: implement checkArgc() garbage.`
`01:31.19`	`lan56`	`at first, checkArgc() was changed so much from what I first coded it as, that I didn't even know how to use it, and I wrote it :)`
`01:45.11`	`*** join/#bzflag jolly (~hjjj@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com)`
`01:45.42`	`brlcad`	`yay, jolly =)`
`01:47.01`	`jolly`	`hi learner :)`
`01:48.49`	`*** join/#bzflag wizart (~wizard@dsl-082-083-139-073.arcor-ip.net)`
`01:49.58`	`*** join/#bzflag wizart (~wizard@dsl-082-082-146-197.arcor-ip.net)`
`02:28.37`	`brlcad`	`http://bzflag.bz/tmp/laptop.jpg`
`02:28.47`	`brlcad`	`ack`
`02:28.58`	`bryjen`	`403`
`02:28.58`	`brlcad`	`fixed`
`02:29.33`	`bryjen`	`err`
`02:29.38`	`brlcad`	`:)`
`02:30.19`	`bryjen`	`Oh, look, Windows :)`
`02:30.28`	`brlcad`	`hehe`
`02:30.54`	`trepan`	`TimRikerOLS: coming to ottawa?`
`02:31.29`	`brlcad`	`TimRikerOLS: I used "bzflag" as the referrer, so maybe it'll match up`
`02:39.45`	`DTRemenak`	`heh - "This email is going out exclusively to the admins of the top 250 (out of 80,000+) projects on SourceForge.net." - uh.....right....`
`02:41.25`	`lan56`	`what do you mean, dtremenak? I got one, and look at my project :)`
`02:41.38`	`lan56`	`my project is the most popular on sf.net :)`
`02:41.55`	`lan56`	`and, I am going to win those sf.net tshirts as well :)`
`02:41.59`	`DTRemenak`	`heh`
`02:42.03`	`brlcad`	`DTRemenak: you get it too? :)`
`02:42.06`	`DTRemenak`	`yeah`
`02:42.26`	`lan56`	`well, in a way it could be right, I mean there is a lot of garbage on sf.net`
`02:42.38`	`lan56`	`a lot of projects that haven't gotten over 5% pop in their life`
`02:42.39`	`DTRemenak`	`I'm wondering if all project admins got it, or if they botched the script so that all project admins who were also (non-admin) members of the top 250 got it`
`02:43.18`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: the stats page will show you the current ranking of a project`
`02:43.33`	`DTRemenak`	`top 250 would be less than the top 1%`
`02:43.49`	`lan56`	`I know, but I think they meant projects that have been in the top 250 at any time in their life`
`02:43.56`	`lan56`	`that my project has been`
`02:44.02`	`lan56`	`for like 2 hours :)`
`02:44.15`	`brlcad`	`I'm thinking it went out to all admins that have had any activity`
`02:44.25`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: no, stats are only collected at 1-day resolutions`
`02:44.25`	`lan56`	`and probably file releasexs`
`02:44.39`	`lan56`	`I know, I am just kidding around either way`
`02:44.45`	`DTRemenak`	`brlcad: that's a possibility, in which case they should not have left that line in :)`
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`02:45.01`	`brlcad`	`DTRemenak: or yeah.. somehow botches our associations as admins with projects that are actually in the top 1% :)`
`02:45.18`	`lan56`	`I already responded with 4 quotes, and every one is going to win a tshirt`
`02:46.05`	`DTRemenak`	`for a second I wondered if bkm had gotten another magazine review or something, it wouldn't take a lot to put it in the top 250`
`02:46.26`	`brlcad`	`fact that I'm admin on rather inactive projects and associated with the mostly very active bzflag.. neat bug :)`
`02:46.34`	`lan56`	`what is bkm?`
`02:46.50`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: a database-based bookmark manager for windows`
`02:46.54`	`lan56`	`ahh'`
`02:47.05`	`DTRemenak`	`http://sourceforge.net/projects/bkm`
`02:47.21`	`brlcad`	`DTRemenak: well, I'm sure that's not my case.. I've not started my other projects yet`
`02:48.00`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`02:48.04`	`DTRemenak`	`brlcad: that would tend to indicate that's not the case`
`02:48.21`	`DTRemenak`	`heh, ok - revise that to someone got "admin" and "member" screwed up`
`02:48.39`	`brlcad`	`:)`
`02:48.53`	`trepan`	`my dsa key isn't working for compiler farm access, so i'm not going to bother trying for the t-shirt ;)`
`02:48.56`	`brlcad`	`trepan: didn't you hear? Tim passed the torch on to you now`
`02:49.00`	`*** join/#bzflag AlphA90 (~1811e8df@procyon.noodleroni.com)`
`02:49.12`	`*** join/#bzflag imapimpbitch (~4153c311@procyon.noodleroni.com)`
`02:49.18`	`brlcad`	`hrm`
`02:49.19`	`lan56`	`trepan: just ly and say some good things, but keep it catchy and persuasive`
`02:49.26`	`lan56`	`that's what I did for linux.com`
`02:49.27`	`brlcad`	`imapimpbitch: change the nick please`
`02:49.32`	`trepan`	`brlcad: didn't you hear, i'm passing it to lan56!`
`02:49.34`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: testimonials are not supposed to be lies :)`
`02:49.42`	`imapimpbitch`	`who is this`
`02:49.46`	`DTRemenak`	`honest ones almost always sound better`
`02:49.49`	`imapimpbitch`	`what r yall main tanks`
`02:50.02`	`imapimpbitch`	`is this for n00bs cus im uot`
`02:50.05`	`brlcad`	`imapimpbitch: please change the callsign with /nick new_name`
`02:50.06`	`lan56`	`brlcad: I want to see action! ban! :)`
`02:50.07`	`imapimpbitch`	`out*`
`02:50.16`	`AlphA90`	`wow...`
`02:50.19`	`imapimpbitch`	`k`
`02:50.21`	`imapimpbitch`	`how`
`02:50.27`	`brlcad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:50.37`	`brlcad`	`type that like a bz command`
`02:50.43`	`brlcad`	`or that`
`02:50.54`	`lan56`	`ahh man, you should have banned him or kicked`
`02:50.58`	`brlcad`	`nah`
`02:51.02`	`lan56`	`you're too polite, he got away`
`02:51.21`	`trepan`	`lan56: a little power hungry these days?`
`02:51.30`	`lan56`	`I suppose :)`
`02:51.36`	`lan56`	`or desire to see action`
`02:51.45`	`brlcad`	`that can be arranged :)`
`02:51.55`	`trepan`	`run lan56, run!`
`02:51.59`	`*** kick/#bzflag [lan56!~brlcad@brlcad.sustaining.supporter.pdpc] by brlcad (action!)`
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`02:52.04`	`brlcad`	`:)`
`02:52.05`	`lan56`	`heh :)`
`02:52.23`	`lan56`	`that's not action, there was no build up to the climax`
`02:52.25`	`lan56`	`take 2 :)`
`02:52.36`	`brlcad`	`it's all part of the build up..`
`02:52.45`	`lan56`	`true`
`02:52.48`	`*** join/#bzflag slanky (~4153c311@procyon.noodleroni.com)`
`02:53.02`	`trepan`	`slanky: better :)`
`02:53.15`	`slanky`	`what r yall main tanks`
`02:53.33`	`brlcad`	`much better :)`
`02:53.43`	`lan56`	`much worse, now there's no chance of action :)`
`02:53.44`	`slanky`	`?`
`02:53.49`	`trepan`	`slanky: what do you mean? main tanks?`
`02:53.53`	`lan56`	`I am a tank when I play, yes`
`02:53.54`	`brlcad`	`slanky: what's yours?`
`02:54.06`	`brlcad`	`trepan: he means our callsigns`
`02:54.14`	`slanky`	`what`
`02:54.18`	`slanky`	`im confused`
`02:54.22`	`brlcad`	`you play as "what"?`
`02:54.22`	`lan56`	`slanky: what are you asking us?`
`02:54.26`	`trepan`	`brlcad: you sure?`
`02:54.28`	`slanky`	`let me leave cus im in the wrong place`
`02:54.32`	`lan56`	`no you are not`
`02:54.44`	`lan56`	`bzflag is about tanks yes`
`02:54.45`	`slanky`	`does this have anything to do with bf`
`02:54.52`	`lan56`	`bzflag? yes`
`02:54.54`	`brlcad`	`boyfriends? :)`
`02:54.55`	`lan56`	`this is the IRC channel`
`02:55.02`	`brlcad`	`~bzflag`
`02:55.04`	`ibot`	`well, bzflag is a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming interuptions. See also TimRiker`
`02:55.07`	`lan56`	`oh, then if brlcad is right, take this to #cheaters :)`
`02:55.24`	`brlcad`	`lan56: don't confuse him more :)`
`02:55.30`	`lan56`	`alright :)`
`02:55.32`	`slanky`	`ok so what r yall bf main tanks`
`02:55.44`	`brlcad`	`~learner`
`02:55.45`	`ibot`	`from memory, learner is your friend .`
`02:55.48`	`lan56`	`what do you mean by "main tanks"?`
`02:55.54`	`slanky`	`nvm`
`02:56.05`	`slanky`	`im in the wrong place`
`02:56.08`	`slanky`	`ttyl`
`02:56.08`	`lan56`	`no you are not`
`02:56.12`	`AlphA90`	`?`
`02:56.12`	`brlcad`	`slanky: what's your callsign?`
`02:56.25`	`brlcad`	`what's _your_ main tank?`
`02:56.36`	`slanky`	`dont know what the hell is a callsign`
`02:56.40`	`slanky`	`imma just leave`
`02:56.44`	`slanky`	`ttyl`
`02:56.44`	`lan56`	`no don't`
`02:56.48`	`AlphA90`	`slanky you play battlefield?`
`02:56.48`	`trepan`	`ciao slanky`
`02:56.53`	`lan56`	`what is your main tank?`
`02:57.00`	`slanky`	`slanky`
`02:57.02`	`AlphA90`	`slanky do you play battlefield?`
`02:57.04`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`02:57.05`	`slanky`	`thats my main`
`02:57.08`	`slanky`	`yea alpha`
`02:57.18`	`AlphA90`	`your alpha 01?`
`02:57.23`	`slanky`	`no`
`02:57.29`	`AlphA90`	`ok`
`02:57.29`	`brlcad`	`slanky: yep, you are in the wrong place :) see http://bzflag.org ;)`
`02:57.30`	`AlphA90`	`:)`
`02:57.48`	`AlphA90`	`im -AlphA-90 ;) ;)`
`02:57.59`	`slanky`	`im confused : )`
`02:58.02`	`slanky`	`cya`
`02:58.04`	`AlphA90`	`rofl`
`02:58.05`	`AlphA90`	`cya`
`02:58.14`	`lan56`	`I don't understand what he wanted`
`02:58.38`	`AlphA90`	`neither do i`
`02:58.38`	`AlphA90`	`:)`
`02:58.49`	`orange`	`neither did he`
`02:58.53`	`trepan`	`sometimes, it's best to just let it slide`
`02:59.01`	`lan56`	`and we did`
`02:59.09`	`lan56`	`we pretended to understand`
`02:59.56`	`lan56`	`wow the time just flies, it's already 8pm, feels like I just woke up a few minutes ago`
`03:00.29`	`AlphA90`	`maybe you did?`
`03:00.38`	`lan56`	`hmm, maybe I did`
`03:00.56`	`AlphA90`	`blahblahblah`
`03:01.03`	`AlphA90`	`btw im LD`
`03:01.08`	`lan56`	`ld?`
`03:01.12`	`AlphA90`	`im waiting for somone from a diferent game`
`03:01.15`	`AlphA90`	`lil dog`
`03:01.19`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`03:01.53`	`AlphA90`	`http://www.playbattlefield.com/battle/game/play.do`
`03:02.03`	`AlphA90`	`and or`
`03:02.08`	`AlphA90`	`http://www.playbattlefield.com`
`03:04.33`	`AlphA90`	`i am "and then click IRC" at R&S`
`03:05.51`	`AlphA90`	`dubgummit!!!!!!!!!!`
`03:07.58`	`lan56`	`nah, it's not the phrase that people should care about, it's why people make such a big deal about that people should wonder about`
`03:08.08`	`[6yob]`	`lol`
`03:08.16`	`[6yob]`	`yes, what im saying.`
`03:08.24`	`[6yob]`	`you live in cf?`
`03:08.32`	`lan56`	`yes, I live in los angeles`
`03:08.46`	`[6yob]`	`ahh cool`
`03:08.50`	`trepan`	`my sympathies on the air quality`
`03:08.52`	`lan56`	`you think I care about the lakers and don't live in cf? :)`
`03:08.58`	`lan56`	`nah, it's ok down here`
`03:09.04`	`lan56`	`or maybe I am just used to it:)`
`03:09.16`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`03:09.25`	`[6yob]`	`Im going to college there:)`
`03:09.32`	`brlcad`	`lan56: you going to join us in the get together?`
`03:09.33`	`lan56`	`in los angeles?`
`03:09.35`	`[6yob]`	`Not sure what school .. down to 2`
`03:09.38`	`[6yob]`	`or 3`
`03:09.40`	`lan56`	`nah, I can't, too busy`
`03:09.45`	`lan56`	`I am sorry, learner`
`03:10.09`	`brlcad`	`shame :)`
`03:10.13`	`lan56`	`it sure is`
`03:10.19`	`[6yob]`	`Im not sure lan I do know I wanna live near the beach i love to serf:)`
`03:10.21`	`brlcad`	`if you change your mind, you know where we are :)`
`03:10.22`	`JBdiGriz`	`How go the plans for the party?`
`03:10.34`	`lan56`	`brlcad: I know :)`
`03:10.44`	`lan56`	`[6yob]: there is UCSB if you want it`
`03:10.50`	`brlcad`	`JBdiGriz: still down to either Sat 7th or Sun 8th in the evening`
`03:10.54`	`lan56`	`that's beach view as well`
`03:11.05`	`[6yob]`	`ucbs?`
`03:11.07`	`brlcad`	`JBdiGriz: it's likely that crs will join us :)`
`03:11.11`	`[6yob]`	`whice school?`
`03:11.11`	`brlcad`	`he was rather interested`
`03:11.13`	`JBdiGriz`	`UCSB is a good school for surfing, but the beaches all face south`
`03:11.13`	`lan56`	`uc santa barbara`
`03:11.18`	`[6yob]`	`oh ok`
`03:11.34`	`[6yob]`	`Whats there focus?`
`03:11.40`	`lan56`	`surfing :)`
`03:11.42`	`[6yob]`	`study wise`
`03:11.44`	`[6yob]`	`lol`
`03:11.45`	`lan56`	`nobody goes to learn there :)`
`03:11.50`	`JBdiGriz`	`That would be fun to meet crs.`
`03:12.00`	`lan56`	`I'd say marine biology`
`03:12.07`	`[6yob]`	`heh, not bad`
`03:12.09`	`JBdiGriz`	`UCSB is the party school of the UC system.`
`03:12.09`	`lan56`	`I know UCLA is probably medical or neurology`
`03:12.24`	`JBdiGriz`	`UCLA is the catch all for the system.`
`03:12.27`	`lan56`	`and uc riverside is the landfill of the uc system`
`03:12.51`	`JBdiGriz`	`There's more marine biology at UCSD and SIO.`
`03:12.57`	`lan56`	`sio?`
`03:13.08`	`JBdiGriz`	`Scripps Institute of Oceanography`
`03:13.18`	`lan56`	`makes sense there would be :)`
`03:13.46`	`lan56`	`where is sunnydale, again?`
`03:13.51`	`JBdiGriz`	`Sunnydale? Isn't that somewhere in Indiana?`
`03:14.01`	`[6yob]`	`Ack, not sunnydale..`
`03:14.08`	`lan56`	`sunnyvale?`
`03:14.08`	`[6yob]`	`Wrong one:)`
`03:14.22`	`AlphA90`	`springdale?`
`03:14.28`	`JBdiGriz`	`in the wasteland of the bay area`
`03:14.29`	`[6yob]`	`lol`
`03:14.39`	`[6yob]`	`I'll think of it..`
`03:14.54`	`JBdiGriz`	`Don't hurt yourself`
`03:14.58`	`lan56`	`uc riverside is a real wasteland; they'll accept any body`
`03:15.02`	`lan56`	`100% acceptance rate`
`03:15.14`	`lan56`	`because nobody want's to go to a colleg in the desert I suppose`
`03:15.35`	`JBdiGriz`	`Riverside isn't the desert, but there isn't much there.`
`03:15.37`	`trepan`	`mmm, desert`
`03:15.49`	`JBdiGriz`	`trepan: It's not dessert either.`
`03:16.10`	`trepan`	`JBdiGriz: ya try to crack one pun...`
`03:16.22`	`JBdiGriz`	`and it leads to a 1000 more...`
`03:16.24`	`lan56`	`yeah yeah, tell it to the judge :)`
`03:16.49`	`JBdiGriz`	`puns are like potato chips`
`03:16.55`	`lan56`	`they taste good`
`03:17.01`	`lan56`	`but if they are from trepan...`
`03:17.03`	`trepan`	`they make you feel crappy later`
`03:17.05`	`lan56`	`well, they aren't too great`
`03:17.08`	`lan56`	`:)`
`03:17.26`	`lan56`	`eew I hate that flavor`
`03:17.44`	`JBdiGriz`	`We finally made learner hungry (of course that's not hard to do)`
`03:17.49`	`AlphA90`	`yummmmmmmmm`
`03:18.32`	`lan56`	`[6yob]: ever been to san diego?`
`03:21.22`	`[6yob]`	`lan56, Yes:) Went with my family.. Was alright but never got to do much:)`
`03:21.33`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`03:21.37`	`[6yob]`	`lan56, and by the way I think it is sunnyvale:P`
`03:21.40`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`03:21.50`	`[6yob]`	`My memory is getting bad`
`03:21.50`	`lan56`	`I knew you'd agree :)`
`03:21.56`	`lan56`	`it already is :)`
`03:22.04`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`03:22.57`	`[6yob]`	`At 16 my memory is bad eh:) Well had to go sometime..`
`03:25.13`	`lan56`	`ahh, if I could, I'd just drink cream soda after cream soda, all with ice, all day long`
`03:25.44`	`[6yob]`	`nothing like a nice root eer or cream soda:)`
`03:25.50`	`lan56`	`how true`
`03:25.55`	`lan56`	`not a single thing like it`
`03:26.12`	`[6yob]`	`'cold' root beer is to sweet:)`
`03:26.27`	`lan56`	`like the feeling of a cold splash of it hitting your tongue, then your entire mouth, and then just chug after chug of it coming from the glass`
`03:26.31`	`MeBigFatGuy`	`http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5721464`
`03:26.43`	`lan56`	`MeBigFatGuy: I like it too, although, I think root beer competes too much :)`
`03:26.51`	`MeBigFatGuy`	`true`
`03:26.51`	`[6yob]`	`IBC, ever tried it? or is that a southern thing;)`
`03:27.13`	`lan56`	`IBC is hardly seen around here`
`03:27.22`	`[6yob]`	`really:O`
`03:27.33`	`lan56`	`oh, and BTW, it's only good when it's in ice in a glass, otherwise, too gasy to be enjoyable`
`03:28.21`	`[6yob]`	`Ahh man.. I really want a root beer right now;)`
`03:28.27`	`lan56`	`same here`
`03:28.29`	`[6yob]`	`Im hoping in the car and getting one..`
`03:28.36`	`[6yob]`	`A nice cold one..`
`03:28.41`	`lan56`	`with ice?`
`03:28.43`	`[6yob]`	`ine a glass bottle:)`
`03:28.50`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`03:28.56`	`[6yob]`	`chilled glass bottle would do for me:)`
`03:29.04`	`lan56`	`I suppose`
`03:29.07`	`[6yob]`	`but ice is nice:)`
`03:29.14`	`lan56`	`it sure is :))))`
`03:29.34`	`[6yob]`	`What ever floats your boat i guess`
`03:29.51`	`lan56`	`true true`
`03:30.21`	`[6yob]`	`Lan you run apache?`
`03:30.27`	`lan56`	`no`
`03:30.31`	`lan56`	`not that I know of`
`03:30.52`	`[6yob]`	`heh, well I was going to ask you what you thought of apache 2..`
`03:31.01`	`[6yob]`	`the re wrote the 1.3.x`
`03:31.17`	`lan56`	`menotume mentioned that yesterday`
`03:31.19`	`[6yob]`	`It is quite confusing..`
`03:31.25`	`AlphA90`	`...............`
`03:31.26`	`scanline`	`people still run apache 1.3? :P`
`03:31.30`	`[6yob]`	`lool`
`03:31.33`	`[6yob]`	`i want to`
`03:31.43`	`[6yob]`	`im reinstalling debain and running the 1.3`
`03:31.56`	`scanline`	`apache2 is much nicer.. definitely upgrade to it`
`03:32.07`	`scanline`	`and it's been around for a while now`
`03:32.09`	`scanline`	`1.3 is ancient`
`03:32.28`	`[6yob]`	`Im confused.. where did the put the hosts at?`
`03:32.30`	`[6yob]`	`vhosts?`
`03:32.55`	`purple_cow`	`and all those fiddly little modules like _perl and _php work now`
`03:33.47`	`[6yob]`	`I think 1.3.x wasw much cleaner.. as in u didn't have to fool with as much..`
`03:34.23`	`scanline`	`what makes you say that?`
`03:35.02`	`scanline`	`the configuration isn't much differerent, and if anything it's better`
`03:36.03`	`[6yob]`	`Heh, i guess it is my quick judgement.. I just need to sit and look around..`
`03:36.17`	`[6yob]`	`Sounds like I am lookin over a few things.`
`03:39.35`	`lan56`	`'night`
`03:42.26`	`AlphA90`	`bye`
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`04:02.29`	`AlphA90`	`hihi`
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`04:14.06`	`AlphA90`	`hihi`
`04:14.08`	`AlphA90`	`GUEST`
`04:14.12`	`AlphA90`	`228!`
`04:14.16`	`AlphA90`	`tis you!!!`
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`04:54.00`	`SportChick`	`Nidhoggr: you around?`
`04:54.31`	`Nidhoggr`	`what's up?`
`04:54.40`	`SportChick`	`did you see the email from pyrotank's dad?`
`04:55.06`	`SportChick`	`(I'm assuming you had to approve it)`
`04:55.09`	`Nidhoggr`	`yeah. I'm gunna respond and say that he's doing better and we'll email him if it gets out of hand again.`
`04:55.24`	`SportChick`	`are you going to tell him what the problem was in the first place?`
`04:55.26`	`Nidhoggr`	`since the 2 we thought might be him were not.`
`04:55.32`	`SportChick`	`agreed`
`04:56.00`	`Nidhoggr`	`I think being the "tattle tale" when pickel specifically told me he had learned his lesson would be tacky.`
`04:56.12`	`Nidhoggr`	`we'll be on his better side if we don't.`
`04:56.14`	`SportChick`	`I didn't know he had told you that`
`04:56.20`	`SportChick`	`agreed`
`04:56.31`	`SportChick`	`just wanted to know if you were responding, so I wouldn't need to`
`04:57.08`	`Nidhoggr`	`sleep well, and get better. If I don't get to it tonight, I'll do it in the morning.`
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`05:18.18`	`AlphA90`	`:P`
`05:18.25`	`AlphA90`	`bed time'`
`05:18.31`	`AlphA90`	`night night`
`05:34.30`	`lan56`	`does getConfigDirName() return the path to the user directory (like on windows -- "\my documents\", or mac os--"/username/documents"), or does it just place the bzflag docs folder on the hard drive directly?`
`05:35.53`	`trepan_away`	`it's where the 'config' file is supposed to go, user dir`
`05:35.59`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`05:36.01`	`lan56`	`good good ty`
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`06:46.35`	`guu`	`New news from matches: Jul 20 08:52 => Donjon's Ugly Beasts (DUB):6, The Atypical Antipsychotics [TAA]:4 \|\| Jul 19 08:11 => The Atypical Antipsychotics [TAA]:6, Donjon's Ugly Beasts (DUB):4`
`06:48.26`	`brlcad`	`w00t .. bzflag.bz has a proper favicon.ico now`
`06:54.21`	`trepan`	`me neither`
`06:54.51`	`brlcad`	`probably because you've been there before and you have it cached`
`06:55.08`	`brlcad`	`took me a while to figure that out locally -- deleted my icon cache and it popped up`
`06:55.39`	`lan56`	`what is a favicon?`
`06:56.30`	`scanline`	`brlcad: it doesn't cache lack of icon.. you need a <link> pointing to it`
`06:56.39`	`trepan`	`brlcad: dunno, did a reload (skip cache), and still no joy`
`06:56.44`	`scanline`	`<link href="/favicon.ico" type="image/png" rel="shortcut icon" />`
`06:56.46`	`scanline`	`in your <head>`
`06:57.04`	`TimRikerOLS`	`All I get is: Cross-Referencing BZFlag \n Browse the code with no favicon entry in the tst.`
`06:57.22`	`TimRikerOLS`	`er text.`
`06:57.56`	`brlcad`	`hrm.. browser difference. safari automatically checked for the favicon.ico even without the link, but I do recall that now that you mention it..`
`06:58.12`	`lan56`	`same here, all I get is text`
`06:58.13`	`TimRikerOLS`	`I did one for http://rikers.org/ but never got around do doing one for bzflag.org`
`06:59.39`	`brlcad`	`try that`
`07:00.11`	`trepan`	`much better`
`07:00.15`	`brlcad`	`silly galeon/firefox`
`07:00.15`	`scanline`	`it shows up, but it just looks like a messy black square`
`07:01.01`	`lan56`	`I go to bzflag.bz and still see only text`
`07:01.52`	`TimRikerOLS`	`cool. perhaps the tank should point up?`
`07:02.48`	`brlcad`	`it could easily enough ..`
`07:02.52`	`brlcad`	`I've had that image for years`
`07:02.56`	`brlcad`	`http://bzflag.bz/tmp/avatar.gif`
`07:03.08`	`brlcad`	`I hand crafted it using graph paper`
`07:03.23`	`TimRikerOLS`	`cool. it's growing on me actually.`
`07:03.43`	`brlcad`	`:)`
`07:04.19`	`TimRikerOLS`	`color tank might be nice. dark green but still black treads and turret?`
`07:04.46`	`brlcad`	`somewhere around here I have then in red/green/blue/etc`
`07:05.06`	`brlcad`	`one of my first java apps used that little tank as part of an agent-based simulation`
`07:05.09`	`scanline`	`oh. now that I know what it is it looks better.. but it still doesn't scale down to 16x16 well at all`
`07:05.35`	`brlcad`	`scanline: that's a common first impression .. you get an "OH" effect once you see it, then it's hard to not see it`
`07:06.49`	`brlcad`	`TimRikerOLS: I'll give that a try`
`07:08.17`	`TimRikerOLS`	`brlcad: just suggestions. it's cool as it is too.`
`07:22.38`	`lan56`	`http://www.terraserver.com/providers/usgs_urban.asp -- how do you forget los angeles, las vegas, or new york city???`
`07:26.11`	`brlcad`	`perhaps a bit dark`
`07:26.13`	`brlcad`	`http://bzflag.bz/tmp/avatar_green.png`
`07:27.55`	`TimRikerOLS`	`yes, too dark. and I'd leave the sides of the treads black.`
`07:28.22`	`brlcad`	`I tried leaving them gray.. looked odd`
`07:29.26`	`TimRikerOLS`	`hmm. well I gotta crash. check you web changes into cvs. ;-) probably want to change the cgi-bin/moin_config.py too.`
`07:29.31`	`TimRikerOLS`	`nite.`
`07:29.47`	`brlcad`	`web changes?`
`07:30.11`	`brlcad`	`oh, I wonder if he meant use it on .org`
`07:30.36`	`lan56`	`better make sure first`
`07:30.51`	`brlcad`	`nah`
`07:31.15`	`PrezKennedy`	`night all you folks`
`07:31.19`	`lan56`	`night`
`07:32.03`	`brlcad`	`that's what he meant, he'd hinted to it already`
`07:32.16`	`brlcad`	`and otherwise what he said makes no sense :)`
`07:32.19`	`brlcad`	`cya PrezKennedy`
`07:32.25`	`PrezKennedy`	`ill sleep on the irc thing brlcad`
`07:32.27`	`PrezKennedy`	`;-)`
`07:32.47`	`brlcad`	`would be useful..`
`07:33.50`	`PrezKennedy`	`yep`
`07:33.56`	`PrezKennedy`	`well... until tomorrow`
`07:33.57`	`PrezKennedy`	`gnight`
`07:34.05`	`brlcad`	`oh wow.. Tim was right..`
`07:34.24`	`brlcad`	`it actually works really well after the scaline to 16x16 .. looks like crap before`
`07:34.32`	`brlcad`	`http://bzflag.bz/tmp/avatar_green2.png`
`07:34.55`	`brlcad`	`that's cute, I like that`
`07:35.46`	`lan56`	`it's not bad`
`07:47.03`	`guu`	`New news from matches: Jul 20 08:52 => Donjon's Ugly Beasts (DUB):6, The Atypical Antipsychotics [TAA]:4 \|\| Jul 19 08:11 => The Atypical Antipsychotics [TAA]:6, Donjon's Ugly Beasts (DUB):4 \|\| Jul 18 22:48 => Fortix:4, The Barons:2 \|\| Jul 18 16:54 => (BbF) BLaCK buLLET FricTioN:15, Knights of Camelot [KoC]:2 \|\| Jul 17 23:37 => (BbF) BLaCK buLLET FricTioN:6, Jumping Tank:0`
`07:53.29`	`brlcad`	`ahh.. Tim's got bad perms on moin_config.py`
`08:02.56`	`brlcad`	`ugh.. sf interactive node suddenly went intolerable.. everyone's cron-job kicking off at 4am it seems`
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`08:04.27`	`Duelist`	`hey folks`
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