irclog2html for #bzflag on 20040711

`00:11.45`	`*** join/#bzflag The_Viper (Viper@198.116.205.68.cfl.rr.com)`
`00:12.29`	`Patlabor221`	`so your making a cheats forum The_Viper?`
`00:12.47`	`lan56`	`ooh, a cheats forum, I gotta see that`
`00:13.32`	`Patlabor221`	`seems to be mostly what's on his forums`
`00:14.00`	`lan56`	`you mean, as in there is no true cheats only forum, but there are messages describing instructions to implement cheats>?`
`00:14.13`	`Patlabor221`	`yes it's code on how to cheat`
`00:14.22`	`lan56`	`hmm, that's not right`
`00:14.53`	`lan56`	`cheats are choice, pursuading people to make that choice is wrong`
`00:15.33`	`lan56`	`oh, and it's that ass knightmare`
`00:16.05`	`lan56`	`I hate him, he thinks he is the only one that knows C++, or at the least how to cheat (which, in the end, are equal)`
`00:16.37`	`lan56`	`jeez, if I saw him in person, I'd really get violent towards him`
`00:16.39`	`Patlabor221`	`he just likes riling people up`
`00:16.46`	`Patlabor221`	`that's what he wants you to do`
`00:16.51`	`Patlabor221`	`then he is better then you if you do`
`00:17.03`	`lan56`	`to cheat is one thing, to act like it is "in style" and show-off about it is awful`
`00:17.22`	`lan56`	`nah, if I killed him he is worse than me`
`00:17.23`	`lan56`	`:)`
`00:18.01`	`Patlabor221`	`I have no problem with mods for fun, just change the version number so moded clients can play with moded clients only`
`00:18.10`	`Patlabor221`	`then it's a new version`
`00:18.22`	`lan56`	`true, true`
`00:19.14`	`guu`	`New news from matches: Jul 11 00:02 => The Barbarians:12, The Warriors of Darkness:0`
`00:19.27`	`lan56`	`at least knightmare is a frequent player, and he does do most of his cheating on his own servers`
`00:19.37`	`lan56`	`I mean he is not a frequent player`
`00:19.48`	`lan56`	`I don't know how you make a mistake like that :)`
`00:20.01`	`Patlabor221`	`that was his argument, he says on his cheat server, I just wanted him to change his version so the cheat clients can't be used on regular servers`
`00:20.24`	`lan56`	`I have yet to see him play`
`00:20.30`	`Patlabor221`	`it's like giving away guns, and saying "well they are suposed to only shoot them in here"`
`00:21.00`	`lan56`	`but that is not good to limit where you can shoot guns`
`00:21.08`	`lan56`	`I mean, to limit it to only there`
`00:21.19`	`lan56`	`shouldn't be that free to shoot anywhere :)`
`00:21.37`	`Patlabor221`	`only if you want the consiquences of everone geting shot`
`00:22.07`	`lan56`	`guns shouldn't be limited to only being shot in the store, but they shouldn't be allowed to be shot anywhere`
`00:22.27`	`lan56`	`there should be certain legal places and events that guns can be shot legally, like there are`
`00:22.29`	`Patlabor221`	`in this case it could be fun to tweak the client to see what cool stuff oyu could do`
`00:22.37`	`Patlabor221`	`so I see his point`
`00:22.45`	`Patlabor221`	`changing the game to make it difrent and better`
`00:22.49`	`Patlabor221`	`that is what open source is about`
`00:23.03`	`Patlabor221`	`but it becomes cheating when one or a few have the ability to do stuff the masses don't`
`00:23.09`	`Patlabor221`	`and it gives them an advantage`
`00:23.23`	`lan56`	`if he could put those skills to good improvements, he sure would be respected`
`00:23.40`	`Patlabor221`	`thats the thing, he likes feeling better then everyone`
`00:23.49`	`Patlabor221`	`so if he worked WITH people he would not get that feeling`
`00:24.28`	`lan56`	`but you see, it loops right into itself, I have yet to see him, so I don't quite know why he supports cheating if I have yet to see him actually do it`
`00:25.09`	`Patlabor221`	`mostly cus he's been allready baned from the big servers`
`00:25.13`	`Patlabor221`	`he dosn't really play much`
`00:25.22`	`Patlabor221`	`only when he's bored`
`00:25.50`	`lan56`	`I remember he once hacked bzfs to ping that there were 30 players when there really weren't, it lasted for days`
`00:25.59`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`00:26.03`	`lan56`	`I could name the exact function, line, and command that was changed in the source`
`00:26.04`	`Patlabor221`	`he did a lot to the list server`
`00:26.32`	`lan56`	`but it doesn't hurt the list server`
`00:26.39`	`Patlabor221`	`it can`
`00:26.45`	`lan56`	`how so?`
`00:26.51`	`Patlabor221`	`he caused the list server to crash on a number of ocasions`
`00:27.01`	`lan56`	`because of pinging with 30 players?`
`00:27.03`	`Patlabor221`	`and denied it service`
`00:27.14`	`Patlabor221`	`because of sending it a DOS`
`00:27.21`	`Patlabor221`	`overflowing buffers and stuff`
`00:27.22`	`lan56`	`ahh, that's different`
`00:27.35`	`lan56`	`I thought you meant all that because of a false ping`
`00:27.38`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`00:27.45`	`Patlabor221`	`and it wasn't a false ping`
`00:27.47`	`Patlabor221`	`it was a real one`
`00:27.54`	`Patlabor221`	`just with untrue data`
`00:28.00`	`lan56`	`same thing`
`00:28.14`	`Patlabor221`	`false pings usualy have bad return data`
`00:28.30`	`lan56`	`how come he isn't banned from the list server?`
`00:28.43`	`Patlabor221`	`cus the list server dosn't have ban capabilitys yet`
`00:29.01`	`lan56`	`I feel I've been lied to`
`00:29.09`	`Patlabor221`	`well at least at the time`
`00:29.13`	`Patlabor221`	`it may now`
`00:29.20`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`00:29.29`	`lan56`	`I was told that a few people have been banned over time`
`00:29.39`	`Patlabor221`	`well from servers sure`
`00:29.43`	`Patlabor221`	`dono about the list server`
`00:29.44`	`lan56`	`no, from the list server`
`00:29.48`	`Patlabor221`	`tho I'll find out shortly`
`00:30.07`	`lan56`	`alright`
`00:31.38`	`lan56`	`alright, I don't want to support knightmare even one drop, but I can't help but agree with the idea of this post: http://bzflag.mmdhost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5`
`00:31.49`	`lan56`	`but I will never cheat like that`
`00:32.00`	`lan56`	`not that hardcore`
`00:33.03`	`The_Viper`	`Heh i planned on using it on a sever i run off my comp every once in a while or if someone started a cheat server`
`00:33.39`	`lan56`	`I've ran cheat servers in the past`
`00:33.49`	`lan56`	`nobody ever came on and cheated though :\`
`00:34.12`	`The_Viper`	`I'm talking bout get a couple poeple to meet there and plat`
`00:34.27`	`lan56`	`that's the thing, you create a cheat server--nobody cheats on it; you create a normal server, many people cheat`
`00:34.30`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`00:34.41`	`Patlabor221`	`we should make an ofical "cheat" product code, then it could all be seperate`
`00:34.53`	`lan56`	`cheat product code?`
`00:34.56`	`lan56`	`what is that?`
`00:35.22`	`Patlabor221`	`instad of BZFS1XX make it like BZCS0XXX`
`00:35.31`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`00:35.36`	`Patlabor221`	`then regulars can't connect to the cheat servers and clients and stuff`
`00:35.51`	`Patlabor221`	`then people could go to town on the freeforall network`
`00:36.18`	`lan56`	`heh, that's a funny phrase "go to town"`
`00:36.22`	`Patlabor221`	`and not be called cheaters, cus the clients could not be used on reguar servers`
`00:37.11`	`lan56`	`I remember when I was younger, I was a chess master, and I when I would be on winning streaks, I would say "that I took XXX to the cleaners"`
`00:37.18`	`lan56`	`it was a ton of laughs`
`00:37.45`	`lan56`	`anyway, back to cheating`
`00:37.52`	`lan56`	`I mean, back to talking about it :)`
`00:38.01`	`SportChick`	`heh`
`00:38.39`	`The_Viper`	`heh pat in another one of my posts i posted to do that...or was that a email`
`00:39.05`	`Patlabor221`	`I dono`
`00:39.12`	`Patlabor221`	`I didn't actualy read your board`
`00:39.27`	`Patlabor221`	`not after I saw the first couple posts`
`00:40.05`	`The_Viper`	`oh`
`00:40.20`	`Patlabor221`	`as if that is the reason for it, there is nothing there that would intrest me`
`00:40.32`	`lan56`	`patlabor221: http://bzflag.mmdhost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15 -- knightmare is in love with you :)`
`00:40.56`	`Patlabor221`	`heh`
`00:41.02`	`The_Viper`	`lol`
`00:41.10`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah he loves to hate me for some reason`
`00:41.53`	`lan56`	`http://bzflag.mmdhost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11 -- man he is lame, he counts on ID flag to tell him about the best flags, if he wanted to know where the best flags were, he'd do radar coloring`
`00:41.58`	`Patlabor221`	`makes me wonder if he is a closet homosecual`
`00:42.14`	`lan56`	`I hate homosexual people`
`00:42.15`	`Patlabor221`	`he's lazy on the code`
`00:42.17`	`Patlabor221`	`why?`
`00:42.24`	`Patlabor221`	`what they do is there own choice`
`00:42.29`	`Patlabor221`	`dosn't really affect you`
`00:42.31`	`orchid`	`hate them?!`
`00:42.36`	`lan56`	`it sure does`
`00:42.40`	`orchid`	`my god`
`00:42.41`	`lan56`	`I see them on the street`
`00:42.41`	`Patlabor221`	`very stron words`
`00:42.48`	`lan56`	`it's an opinion`
`00:42.56`	`orchid`	`isnt there enough hate going around already`
`00:42.56`	`Patlabor221`	`people used to say that about people of your skin tone too`
`00:43.05`	`The_Viper`	`gays are wreong`
`00:43.07`	`lan56`	`I know`
`00:43.13`	`lan56`	`I know about slavery`
`00:43.18`	`Patlabor221`	`then I'd watch the servers you go to`
`00:43.24`	`orchid`	`ugh`
`00:43.25`	`lan56`	`and times before the civil war`
`00:43.52`	`The_Viper`	`noones born gay there just wierdos`
`00:44.01`	`The_Viper`	`lol`
`00:44.03`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm convinced that every man that says he hates them right off the bat, is just scared at himself cus he has found a man atractive`
`00:44.15`	`menotume`	`lol`
`00:44.18`	`The_Viper`	`lol`
`00:44.36`	`lan56`	`alright, you want to know why I hate homosexuals instead of any body else to hate?`
`00:44.40`	`menotume`	`I say: to each their own`
`00:44.46`	`orchid`	`lan56: not really`
`00:44.47`	`Patlabor221`	`why do you have to have somone to hate?`
`00:44.53`	`lan56`	`you don't`
`00:44.58`	`Patlabor221`	`you seem to`
`00:45.02`	`Patlabor221`	`based on your statement`
`00:45.08`	`lan56`	`I have opinions too`
`00:45.10`	`The_Viper`	`of your christian its against the comandments er sumthin`
`00:45.33`	`Patlabor221`	`if you only knew man, if you only knew`
`00:45.45`	`lan56`	`alright, back to bzflag :)`
`00:45.54`	`The_Viper`	`nothing good can come of that`
`00:45.56`	`The_Viper`	`ok`
`00:46.11`	`lan56`	`I hate lemons`
`00:47.05`	`The_Viper`	`lol`
`00:47.23`	`menotume`	`lemos have rights too`
`00:47.26`	`lan56`	`actually, I made a mistake in my message earlier: the civil war didn't end slavery, it was the 13th ammendment that was created after the civil war the ended slavery`
`00:47.50`	`*** topic/#bzflag by Patlabor221 -> http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://stats.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag \|\| BZ will be included on the "Game Based Linux Distro" LiveCD http://www.gbld.net \|\| server usage graphs-http://bzflag.bz/usage/ \|\| http://bzflag.org/wiki/Logging <-- fill in details and RFC \|\| <Punk> anyone here with version 1.11.6 who wants to pay me? \|\| munchkin alert level = 1`
`00:47.51`	`lan56`	`but had the northerners lost, that wouldn't have happened I bet`
`00:47.56`	`menotume`	`uh oh`
`00:47.59`	`Patlabor221`	`I think that just about pushed it over the edge`
`00:48.05`	`menotume`	`alert, alert!`
`00:48.20`	`lan56`	`alright, I know I know, take it to #ushistory :)`
`00:48.21`	`Patlabor221`	`well it's a purple alert`
`00:48.42`	`Patlabor221`	`plastic saves lives!`
`00:49.19`	`Patlabor221`	`mmmmm spring roll`
`00:49.28`	`lan56`	`sounds good`
`00:49.36`	`Patlabor221`	`they have vietamese ones at the factory of cheesecake`
`00:50.08`	`orchid`	`dont speak of cheescake unless you can deliver it to me this instant`
`00:50.14`	`lan56`	`I can!`
`00:50.37`	`orchid`	`:)`
`00:50.43`	`lan56`	`how is it?`
`00:50.52`	`Patlabor221`	`I can send you a plane ticket`
`00:50.56`	`Patlabor221`	`hows that?`
`00:50.56`	`hondje`	`I have two cheesecakes cooling in the fridge right now`
`00:50.57`	`orchid`	`its virtual, so not so good`
`00:51.09`	`lan56`	`it doesn't taste good eating bytes?`
`00:51.14`	`lan56`	`heh, get it-bytes`
`00:51.20`	`lan56`	`like bites of food`
`00:51.22`	`hondje`	`Those jello no-bake ones are pretty decent`
`00:51.28`	`lan56`	`err, it's no good taking bytes?`
`00:51.32`	`lan56`	`I am on fire tonight!`
`00:51.39`	`orchid`	`make him stop`
`00:51.40`	`Carnage`	`wow, just finished readin`
`00:51.50`	`orchid`	`so, purple_cow decks tonight?`
`00:51.51`	`Carnage`	`took me 10 mins`
`00:51.51`	`Patlabor221`	`if Fire= many people's ignore list, then yes you are on it`
`00:51.52`	`lan56`	`laughs are too much to handle?`
`00:52.11`	`lan56`	`alright, alright, I'll stop`
`00:52.35`	`scanline`	`orchid: he's not here :(`
`00:52.47`	`lan56`	`getting a bit too excited here, understandable human function, but I'll cool it`
`00:53.07`	`orchid`	`scanline: he will be later though?`
`00:53.18`	`scanline`	`probably, but I don't know where he went`
`00:53.20`	`scanline`	`maybe to his parents'`
`00:54.08`	`scanline`	`Patlabor221: we can't?`
`00:54.22`	`lan56`	`just set mode +m I believe`
`00:54.27`	`Patlabor221`	`well can't do manual voice cus of the n00bs who want help`
`00:54.32`	`Patlabor221`	`can't do the reg cus of CIA`
`00:54.40`	`scanline`	`hrm`
`00:54.43`	`lan56`	`nah, give CIA, ibot, and guu voice by default`
`00:54.48`	`scanline`	`I should get around to fixing that :P`
`00:54.54`	`Patlabor221`	`CIA changes name`
`00:54.57`	`lan56`	`and the new people can wait :)`
`00:54.59`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`00:55.03`	`Patlabor221`	`no the n00bs can't`
`00:55.12`	`scanline`	`Patlabor221: can you use a hostmask, or CIA-*?`
`00:55.13`	`Patlabor221`	`they are the customer, have to make them feel good`
`00:55.18`	`lan56`	`I guess you're right`
`00:55.19`	`Patlabor221`	`probably could`
`00:55.33`	`Patlabor221`	`I find it's just as easy to kick poeple :)`
`00:55.35`	`scanline`	`:)`
`00:55.45`	`lan56`	`uggh, I know what that's like :(`
`00:59.11`	`Carnage`	`anyone know were is the download link for 1.11.6? i dont wanna look in cvs...`
`00:59.28`	`Patlabor221`	`guu 1.11.6win32`
`00:59.28`	`guu`	`1.11.6win32 is http://bzbb.bzflag.org/files/bzflag1.11.6.exe`
`00:59.29`	`menotume`	`noodle's site ?`
`00:59.46`	`Patlabor221`	`she knows all :)`
`00:59.48`	`menotume`	`ahhh, nice`
`01:00.01`	`lan56`	`I can't wait till it's released`
`01:00.08`	`lan56`	`it's going to be huge`
`01:00.12`	`lan56`	`I can feel it`
`01:00.50`	`hepcat`	`whats the cvs branch for those of us compiling servers`
`01:01.10`	`Patlabor221`	`HEAD`
`01:01.14`	`Patlabor221`	`if you want 1.11.x`
`01:01.24`	`Patlabor221`	`basicly no branch`
`01:01.29`	`hondje`	`Odd ball fairly OT question....`
`01:01.31`	`hepcat`	`yeah cool`
`01:01.35`	`Patlabor221`	`if you want 1.10.x then it's v1_10branch`
`01:01.40`	`hondje`	`But how fast is debian testing at getting the latest and greatest bzflag?`
`01:02.03`	`Patlabor221`	`i think it's when ever tim submits a version`
`01:02.18`	`Patlabor221`	`he does that a week or so after a release is posted`
`01:02.24`	`hondje`	`Ah, nice :)`
`01:02.29`	`orchid`	`!debian version bzflag`
`01:02.31`	`guu`	`orchid: 3 matches found: bzflag (stable: 1.7e4); bzflag (testing: 1.10.6.20040516); bzflag (unstable: 1.10.6.20040516)`
`01:02.43`	`*** join/#bzflag Rayeh (rayeh@pcp08881808pcs.vnburn01.mi.comcast.net)`
`01:03.20`	`orchid`	`hondje: you can always download the source and go into the deb dir and build a .deb of the latest version`
`01:04.00`	`orchid`	`looks like you dont need to though`
`01:06.53`	`Patlabor221`	`what is the list server php file?`
`01:06.59`	`Patlabor221`	`bzfslite.php?`
`01:07.55`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh poo, it uses sqllite not mysql`
`01:10.34`	`Carnage`	`lol`
`01:10.47`	`Carnage`	`pat, knightmare really hates u`
`01:11.28`	`Patlabor221`	`I know`
`01:11.33`	`Patlabor221`	`no real worry to me`
`01:12.30`	`hepcat`	`knightmare can kiss my ass`
`01:12.47`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm sure he would, if given the chance`
`01:13.27`	`lan56`	`alright, I set up a server that allows cheating. it's for the latest CVS version`
`01:13.46`	`hepcat`	`??`
`01:14.28`	`lan56`	`in the latest CVS protocol, I set up a server that allows cheating`
`01:14.31`	`lan56`	`just for tonight`
`01:14.57`	`hepcat`	`heh`
`01:15.29`	`hepcat`	`better let spoogebob know`
`01:15.29`	`lan56`	`I don't plan to make this a habit, but since we've been talking about a server for cheats, there you go`
`01:15.29`	`lan56`	`he cheats?`
`01:16.12`	`*** join/#bzflag LilDog (~1811e8df@procyon.noodleroni.com)`
`01:16.14`	`Patlabor221`	`change your version`
`01:16.34`	`lan56`	`there is yet another new protocol?`
`01:16.35`	`The_Viper`	`hey ld`
`01:16.37`	`*** join/#bzflag sbo892 (~1811e8df@procyon.noodleroni.com)`
`01:16.54`	`lan56`	`alright, let me update my sandbox`
`01:16.57`	`sbo892`	`!1.11.6cvs`
`01:17.09`	`LilDog`	`pat`
`01:17.18`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`01:17.24`	`LilDog`	`what was guu's command to give link to 1.11.6?`
`01:17.31`	`Patlabor221`	`guu 1.11.6win32`
`01:17.32`	`guu`	`1.11.6win32 is http://bzbb.bzflag.org/files/bzflag1.11.6.exe`
`01:17.37`	`LilDog`	`oh thx`
`01:17.41`	`Patlabor221`	`and didn't you download it allready?`
`01:17.51`	`LilDog`	`ya this is for carni`
`01:18.04`	`The_Viper`	`lol`
`01:18.06`	`Patlabor221`	`umm ok`
`01:18.12`	`Patlabor221`	`you people are wierd`
`01:18.26`	`lan56`	`you are downloading for someone else?`
`01:18.36`	`The_Viper`	`lol`
`01:19.09`	`lan56`	`alright, never mind, I don't like the idea of hosting a cheat server`
`01:19.16`	`lan56`	`I am calling it off`
`01:19.20`	`LilDog`	`good idia`
`01:19.34`	`lan56`	`I am now just going to run a normal CVS version bzflag server`
`01:19.39`	`lan56`	`so, cheat and die!`
`01:19.45`	`LilDog`	`good!`
`01:19.52`	`lan56`	`you go girl!`
`01:19.58`	`LilDog`	`can i be one of the firsts to try out your cvs server?`
`01:20.12`	`lan56`	`it's up for grabs, anybody that wants to join it go ahead`
`01:20.21`	`LilDog`	`is it up right now?`
`01:20.22`	`The_Viper`	`i will`
`01:20.27`	`lan56`	`let me just update my sandbox and recompile then it will be up`
`01:20.40`	`LilDog`	`erhm will it be in 1.11.6?`
`01:20.42`	`lan56`	`but remember, I am on 56k, so don't get too comfy on it :)`
`01:20.45`	`The_Viper`	`yea`
`01:20.51`	`lan56`	`1.11.7 if I know correctly`
`01:21.03`	`LilDog`	`how do i get 1.11.7?!`
`01:21.10`	`The_Viper`	`lol :(`
`01:21.13`	`lan56`	`alt-f4`
`01:21.13`	`LilDog`	`sorry for "!"`
`01:21.17`	`LilDog`	`punk`
`01:21.25`	`*** join/#bzflag The_Viper (Viper@198.116.205.68.cfl.rr.com)`
`01:21.26`	`lan56`	`heh :)`
`01:21.31`	`*** join/#bzflag Viper (Viper@198.116.205.68.cfl.rr.com)`
`01:21.32`	`LilDog`	`how do i get 1.11.7?`
`01:21.36`	`Patlabor221`	`you don't`
`01:21.38`	`Patlabor221`	`there is none`
`01:21.41`	`LilDog`	`ohhhh`
`01:21.44`	`LilDog`	`i see...`
`01:21.46`	`Patlabor221`	`unless they bumped it recently`
`01:21.47`	`lan56`	`hmm`
`01:21.59`	`lan56`	`let me check version.h`
`01:22.19`	`lan56`	`hmm, that's weird, its still 1.11.6`
`01:22.25`	`LilDog`	`ngood!`
`01:22.33`	`LilDog`	`leave it that way`
`01:22.34`	`LilDog`	`:)`
`01:22.38`	`Patlabor221`	`why would it not be 1.11.6?`
`01:22.44`	`Patlabor221`	`proto hasn't changed`
`01:22.57`	`lan56`	`well, I thought you told me to update my version as I had 1.11.6`
`01:23.14`	`Patlabor221`	`sure, there were changes to it`
`01:23.17`	`Patlabor221`	`just not proto`
`01:23.20`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`01:23.24`	`lan56`	`there's the confusion`
`01:23.27`	`Patlabor221`	`we don't bump the version on every single commit`
`01:23.32`	`lan56`	`I know that`
`01:23.43`	`lan56`	`but I thought why else would I need to update?`
`01:23.56`	`lan56`	`and there were only 3 servers`
`01:24.02`	`lan56`	`while there are usually 9 or so`
`01:24.06`	`Patlabor221`	`bugs :)`
`01:24.11`	`lan56`	`ahh :)`
`01:24.25`	`LilDog`	`the only server i see in 1.11.6 is bzg's..`
`01:24.34`	`LilDog`	`whyat other servers are there?`
`01:24.47`	`Patlabor221`	`there was a brygen one but it was boosted`
`01:25.01`	`LilDog`	`awn`
`01:25.01`	`lan56`	`now try, mine should be there too`
`01:25.07`	`LilDog`	`k brb`
`01:26.50`	`lan56`	`it's not rocket science boy, do you see servers or not?`
`01:27.45`	`LilDog`	`umm pat...`
`01:27.47`	`LilDog`	`lol`
`01:27.53`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`01:27.59`	`LilDog`	`your server thats all`
`01:28.05`	`LilDog`	`not that i could do any better`
`01:28.06`	`Patlabor221`	`my server?`
`01:28.07`	`LilDog`	`rofl`
`01:28.12`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't have a server`
`01:28.18`	`lan56`	`wow`
`01:28.19`	`Patlabor221`	`not on normal at least`
`01:28.21`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh I do`
`01:28.24`	`Viper`	`im there`
`01:28.31`	`lan56`	`he's so bad, he is seeing servers that don't even exist :)`
`01:28.38`	`Patlabor221`	`guess Ishoudl BUILD bzfs`
`01:29.20`	`Patlabor221`	`was still running the old one`
`01:29.28`	`Viper`	`my and ld at breygen`
`01:30.27`	`Patlabor221`	`hah, it would help if I compiled after I change the version, not before :)`
`01:32.20`	`lan56`	`are you and lil dog cheating on bryjens server?`
`01:32.24`	`lan56`	`or maybe it's my lag`
`01:32.34`	`orchid`	`lan56: was that you cheating on bryjens?`
`01:32.43`	`lan56`	`not me`
`01:32.53`	`lan56`	`I joined, see two people flying, and see my above question`
`01:33.43`	`orchid`	`wings flag enables flying`
`01:34.01`	`orchid`	`you however had a ton of shots on a 3 shot server`
`01:34.20`	`lan56`	`I didn't cheat`
`01:34.31`	`lan56`	`I joined, saw two people flying, and see my above question`
`01:34.54`	`*** join/#bzflag PrezKennedy (~Matt@pcp035019pcs.aberdn01.md.comcast.net)`
`01:35.22`	`lan56`	`I do know that I can't see the font as it's messed up, so I switch to an 8 bit resoulution, and that makes my lag skyrocket as it is too slow`
`01:36.00`	`Patlabor221`	`go to fry's`
`01:36.05`	`Patlabor221`	`get a better card`
`01:36.06`	`*** join/#bzflag bryjen (bryjen@69-165-63-90.clvdoh.adelphia.net)`
`01:36.12`	`lan56`	`I know`
`01:47.34`	`trepan`	`I should have bumped the protocol for the last PlayerUpdateSmall change, it's completely whacked out if you mixed the two packet types`
`01:48.24`	`Patlabor221`	`you wana bump it?`
`01:48.48`	`lan56`	`ironic`
`01:48.50`	`trepan`	`na, i'm kinda depressed, hence, lazy`
`01:48.57`	`lan56`	`then I will`
`01:48.59`	`Patlabor221`	`heh`
`01:49.12`	`trepan`	`lan56: the flying around was probably from that _noSmallPacket change, might not have been cheating at all`
`01:49.17`	`trepan`	`do not bump it yet`
`01:49.20`	`lan56`	`ok`
`01:49.27`	`trepan`	`someone should fix the bloody bzfs first`
`01:49.33`	`lan56`	`what is wrong with it?`
`01:49.38`	`trepan`	`namely, the person that borked it`
`01:49.43`	`lan56`	`gulp`
`01:49.48`	`lan56`	`what is the problem with it?`
`01:49.50`	`trepan`	`build a recent version, and try to connect to it`
`01:49.56`	`lan56`	`I already have`
`01:49.57`	`lan56`	`it works`
`01:50.08`	`trepan`	`really? hmmm, maybe it's just me then`
`01:50.17`	`lan56`	`well, let me build today's changes`
`01:50.42`	`lan56`	`I just compile what has changed unless there was a new protocol`
`01:50.46`	`Patlabor221`	`I can't even connect to a local server`
`01:50.51`	`orchid`	`anyone have a 2o or 21" monitor? what res do you run it at?`
`01:50.56`	`Patlabor221`	`says Unsupported response from server during flag negotiation`
`01:50.58`	`trepan`	`Patlabor221: bzfs going into a spin loop?`
`01:51.03`	`trepan`	`yup, that's what i get`
`01:51.14`	`lan56`	`let me try`
`01:51.17`	`Patlabor221`	`orchid I run 1600x1200 on my 21's`
`01:51.24`	`trepan`	`looks like the select() is just being passed through, because tcpReceive keeps return ReadReset`
`01:51.48`	`orchid`	`Patlabor221: and you can read fonts no problem?`
`01:51.54`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`01:51.57`	`Patlabor221`	`they scale`
`01:52.08`	`Patlabor221`	`tho the new fonts have "issues"`
`01:52.08`	`orchid`	`oh 1600, thats what i have on my desktop now`
`01:52.14`	`lan56`	`it works fine`
`01:52.19`	`lan56`	`I can connect to my own server nicely`
`01:52.19`	`orchid`	`this is XP or debian?`
`01:52.26`	`Patlabor221`	`XP`
`01:52.29`	`orchid`	`k`
`01:52.32`	`Patlabor221`	`ttho it shouldn't mater`
`01:52.34`	`Patlabor221`	`GL is GL`
`01:52.41`	`trepan`	`i'm guessing it might relate to bzfs.cxx 1.737->1.738 changes, but i ain't sure`
`01:52.54`	`trepan`	`regardless, someone needs to learn to test before committing, i think`
`01:52.58`	`Patlabor221`	`what are the changes?`
`01:53.07`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm I'm running no flags`
`01:53.08`	`lan56`	`phew, good I didn't make those changes :)`
`01:53.12`	`Patlabor221`	`you have flags trepan?`
`01:53.34`	`trepan`	`i think i do`
`01:54.08`	`trepan`	`ya, i did, was trying that archipelago map, and its got flags`
`01:54.32`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah it inf loops for me`
`01:55.10`	`trepan`	`i'd fix it, but for the fact that i didn't break it, and that kinda breakage shouldn't be committed`
`01:55.47`	`Patlabor221`	`who did it?`
`01:55.55`	`lan56`	`not me`
`01:55.58`	`trepan`	`TBD ;)`
`01:56.05`	`Patlabor221`	`who is tbd?`
`01:56.07`	`lan56`	`we should take this to court`
`01:56.10`	`lan56`	`to be determined`
`01:56.13`	`Patlabor221`	`no we should jsut read them`
`01:56.17`	`Patlabor221`	`a rash of crap`
`01:56.26`	`lan56`	`and then sue for damages`
`01:56.29`	`Patlabor221`	`hell tell me and I'll fix it and kick there ass`
`01:56.34`	`Patlabor221`	`where in bzfs?`
`01:56.38`	`*** part/#bzflag hondje (hondje@c-24-9-245-177.client.comcast.net)`
`01:57.03`	`lan56`	`but, how do we know which revision it is from?`
`01:57.10`	`Patlabor221`	`difs man`
`01:57.13`	`Patlabor221`	`it's all allbout the difs`
`01:57.21`	`lan56`	`but how do we know what is causing it?`
`01:57.34`	`Patlabor221`	`if trepan says he would fix it then he has a n idea`
`01:57.40`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`01:58.33`	`Patlabor221`	`that was tupone checkin for difs`
`02:00.38`	`trepan`	`i'm really not sure the exact commit that caused the prob, but that one looks promising`
`02:00.46`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah that is login time`
`02:00.59`	`lan56`	`you mean, 1.737->1.738?`
`02:01.10`	`trepan`	`for all i know, i did it, and should refrain from further commits for a yet-to-be-determined time`
`02:01.38`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm looking at your changes and I don't see them near code that would screw this up`
`02:02.06`	`Patlabor221`	`well it's busted now`
`02:02.21`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't see how you can run a server lan, you sure your rebuilt the server exe fully?`
`02:02.54`	`trepan`	`I just rebuild fully, still borked, it's real`
`02:02.55`	`lan56`	`not fully, just with todays changtes`
`02:03.14`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't think you really built`
`02:03.36`	`lan56`	`I did`
`02:03.40`	`lan56`	`just not a clean build`
`02:06.02`	`Patlabor221`	`thats why I don't think you really built`
`02:06.20`	`lan56`	`I can rebuild`
`02:07.04`	`lan56`	`let me do that, hold on`
`02:09.47`	`lan56`	`nearly half done compiling`
`02:09.56`	`Patlabor221`	`wow it's THAT slow?`
`02:10.06`	`lan56`	`well, I have SETI@home running too`
`02:10.13`	`lan56`	`I guess they share the cpu time`
`02:10.18`	`Patlabor221`	`how much CPU does that take up?`
`02:10.22`	`lan56`	`99%`
`02:10.29`	`lan56`	`console seti@home version does`
`02:10.34`	`Patlabor221`	`you know the data has been gone thru like 5 times by now`
`02:10.46`	`lan56`	`you mean, commits to bzflag?`
`02:10.54`	`Patlabor221`	`no the seti data`
`02:10.57`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`02:11.01`	`lan56`	`what do you mean?`
`02:11.08`	`LilDog`	`new version ROCKS!!!`
`02:11.09`	`lan56`	`they give it's clients the work`
`02:11.11`	`LilDog`	`:)`
`02:11.14`	`*** join/#bzflag The_Viper (Viper@198.116.205.68.cfl.rr.com)`
`02:11.18`	`Patlabor221`	`they got more CPU then they figured`
`02:11.18`	`lan56`	`I use console version`
`02:11.24`	`Patlabor221`	`so the data is done`
`02:11.27`	`lan56`	`nah`
`02:11.33`	`lan56`	`they would shut down the project then`
`02:11.38`	`lan56`	`they get more data everyday`
`02:11.42`	`Patlabor221`	`no it's too popular`
`02:11.48`	`Patlabor221`	`they keep it going cus it's good PR:)`
`02:11.51`	`Patlabor221`	`sure they have new data`
`02:11.55`	`lan56`	`pr?`
`02:11.56`	`Patlabor221`	`but it gets processed way fast`
`02:12.01`	`Patlabor221`	`Public Relations`
`02:12.15`	`lan56`	`well, the console version, like I have, goes about 4 hours, while the GUI is about 9 hours`
`02:12.21`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`02:12.22`	`lan56`	`I used to use the GUI, but it went too slow`
`02:12.31`	`Patlabor221`	`but you sure it's not the same data that hasn't been processed before?`
`02:12.38`	`lan56`	`that's stupid`
`02:12.43`	`lan56`	`they wouldn't do that`
`02:12.55`	`Patlabor221`	`if they stoped it, people woould uninstall it`
`02:12.58`	`lan56`	`because they have run out of workb efore`
`02:13.19`	`lan56`	`when seti BOINC was new last week, I was one of the first to get it, and they had no work yet for it`
`02:13.24`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah and it did NOT go over well`
`02:13.32`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah that's new stuff`
`02:13.42`	`Patlabor221`	`gotta keep the CPUs chugging :)`
`02:13.56`	`lan56`	`but if they ran out of data, they would say that like they havE!@`
`02:14.20`	`Patlabor221`	`like I say, when they did it, it does not go over well, they lose users`
`02:14.27`	`Patlabor221`	`so why not rehash it to keep it chuging`
`02:14.43`	`Patlabor221`	`and did you find the aliens?`
`02:14.49`	`lan56`	`I don't believe you, I know they would shut down the project if they truly ran out, and they get data all the time`
`02:14.50`	`lan56`	`no`
`02:14.52`	`lan56`	`it's tough`
`02:14.57`	`Patlabor221`	`cus they are allready here`
`02:15.05`	`lan56`	`you are the best example`
`02:15.08`	`lan56`	`:)`
`02:15.23`	`lan56`	`you mean illegal aliens?`
`02:15.56`	`Patlabor221`	`nope`
`02:16.04`	`lan56`	`then what?`
`02:16.06`	`Patlabor221`	`those aren't really alliens`
`02:16.19`	`Patlabor221`	`those are just people kept in lines on a map by greedy humans`
`02:16.56`	`lan56`	`I know they aren't true ET`
`02:17.05`	`lan56`	`nah, they're not in lines`
`02:17.09`	`Patlabor221`	`the non terans are better at hiding`
`02:17.19`	`lan56`	`they're all down in Compton or Torrance :)`
`02:17.39`	`lan56`	`the true ETs arrive in spaceships`
`02:18.21`	`Patlabor221`	`no, not all`
`02:18.28`	`Patlabor221`	`there are many ways of travel`
`02:18.32`	`lan56`	`flying?`
`02:18.35`	`Patlabor221`	`and some non-terans are born here`
`02:18.49`	`lan56`	`you mean, ETs are born here?`
`02:18.59`	`lan56`	`wait, what is a non-teran?`
`02:19.40`	`Patlabor221`	`genetic structures who did not evolve on this ball of mud`
`02:19.42`	`guu`	`New news from bzgirl: 21"`
`02:19.50`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`02:19.52`	`lan56`	`ETs then`
`02:20.01`	`lan56`	`dang, bzgirl is short`
`02:20.16`	`trepan`	`three apples high`
`02:20.17`	`lan56`	`that's not even 2 feet tall`
`02:20.25`	`*** topic/#bzflag by Patlabor221 -> http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://stats.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag \|\| BZ will be included on the "Game Based Linux Distro" LiveCD http://www.gbld.net \|\| server usage graphs-http://bzflag.bz/usage/ \|\| http://bzflag.org/wiki/Logging <-- fill in details and RFC \|\| <Punk> anyone here with version 1.11.6 who wants to pay me? \|\| munchkin alert level = 0`
`02:20.38`	`Patlabor221`	`really man, your not funny`
`02:20.45`	`lan56`	`I never meant to be`
`02:20.52`	`lan56`	`but how do I know what it means?`
`02:20.53`	`Patlabor221`	`it's a monitor size`
`02:20.57`	`*** join/#bzflag sadie (~4469506b@procyon.noodleroni.com)`
`02:20.58`	`Patlabor221`	`you think`
`02:21.01`	`lan56`	`like I am supposed to guess that`
`02:21.07`	`lan56`	`21" describes alot`
`02:21.21`	`lan56`	`of all things to describe, you think I go straight to monitors?`
`02:21.31`	`lan56`	`it can even mean how tall a candle is`
`02:21.41`	`lan56`	`a radio remote`
`02:21.47`	`Patlabor221`	`well she DID just ask about what res people run on them`
`02:21.49`	`lan56`	`a paper bag`
`02:22.02`	`lan56`	`that was orchid`
`02:22.10`	`Patlabor221`	`one and the same`
`02:22.19`	`lan56`	`orchid == bzgirl?`
`02:22.33`	`Patlabor221`	`yup`
`02:22.47`	`lan56`	`like I was also supposed to guess that`
`02:22.49`	`lan56`	`now I know`
`02:22.55`	`lan56`	`but when I said what I did, I didn't`
`02:22.58`	`Patlabor221`	`then best not to comment unless you know all the facts :)`
`02:23.02`	`trepan`	`orchid: avoid the trial, and if you do go, don't bring popcorn, i hear that that's taboo`
`02:23.15`	`lan56`	`but everybody says things that they guess at`
`02:23.30`	`Patlabor221`	`generaly here people put a bit more thought into it`
`02:23.45`	`lan56`	`they're humans too`
`02:23.56`	`Patlabor221`	`if you say so`
`02:24.05`	`lan56`	`then what are they if they are not humans?`
`02:24.08`	`lan56`	`bears?`
`02:24.12`	`lan56`	`gorillas?`
`02:24.20`	`Patlabor221`	`I dbout your frail mind could handle it`
`02:24.30`	`lan56`	`ahh man, tell me`
`02:24.37`	`lan56`	`I hate it when people judge me like that`
`02:24.38`	`Patlabor221`	`naw you would just hate them`
`02:24.52`	`lan56`	`tell me`
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`02:24.57`	`lan56`	`I won't hate them`
`02:25.01`	`lan56`	`the people here are nice`
`02:25.09`	`Patlabor221`	`man was not meant to know all things`
`02:25.21`	`Patlabor221`	`to asume so is greedy and childish`
`02:25.28`	`lan56`	`will you just tell me and stop giving me a tough time`
`02:25.44`	`Patlabor221`	`you just have to learn for yourslef`
`02:25.44`	`lan56`	`I admit, I don't know everything`
`02:25.45`	`JBdiGriz`	`Give him a tough time ;)`
`02:25.54`	`Patlabor221`	`circle of life man`
`02:26.02`	`Patlabor221`	`how goes it JBdiGriz?`
`02:26.12`	`lan56`	`people learn by asking questions`
`02:26.15`	`lan56`	`and I am asking one`
`02:26.20`	`JBdiGriz`	`Not too bad.`
`02:26.24`	`lan56`	`and I am being told that's not how you learn`
`02:26.29`	`Patlabor221`	`people learn also by thinking and experimenting`
`02:26.39`	`lan56`	`true, but I don't have a clue to start with`
`02:26.45`	`lan56`	`you say I am wrong about what I thought`
`02:26.50`	`lan56`	`so I ask what is correct`
`02:26.52`	`JBdiGriz`	`~clue lan56`
`02:26.54`	`ibot`	`ACTION fans out Vegas-style a stack of clues for lan56 "Pick one, any one! ...and don't show it to me."`
`02:26.54`	`Patlabor221`	`then time to do some deep thinking`
`02:27.06`	`Patlabor221`	`ACE OF SPADES!`
`02:27.16`	`lan56`	`al;right, I think that everybody here is a human except guu and ibot`
`02:27.24`	`lan56`	`there, that's as far as I can think`
`02:27.38`	`JBdiGriz`	`that's a good hypothesis, now how can you set about to determine if it's true?`
`02:27.50`	`lan56`	`there is no true way`
`02:27.50`	`orchid`	`hi JBdiGriz`
`02:27.50`	`Patlabor221`	`is it time for a turring test?`
`02:27.53`	`lan56`	`I can't see them here`
`02:28.18`	`Patlabor221`	`your eyes can decieve you, don't trust them`
`02:28.22`	`JBdiGriz`	`heya orchid, I play on an LCD, so they must not be very good for gaming`
`02:28.23`	`lan56`	`there are two possiblities: bot or human`
`02:28.29`	`orchid`	`:)`
`02:28.29`	`lan56`	`ibot is a bot, and so is guu`
`02:28.30`	`ibot`	`lan56: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?`
`02:29.00`	`JBdiGriz`	`What about the possibility of a hybrid, a bot that can be controlled by a human, so you're never quite sure?`
`02:29.25`	`lan56`	`well, I would only start with 1 tier deep--who responds to messages`
`02:29.27`	`Patlabor221`	`don't forget dolphins`
`02:29.30`	`lan56`	`but bots and humans respond`
`02:29.36`	`lan56`	`so to tell them apart is tough`
`02:30.02`	`JBdiGriz`	`dolphins generally don't have keyboards, so let's call that a negligible possibility`
`02:30.24`	`Patlabor221`	`they use macs with specail speech recog`
`02:30.27`	`lan56`	`only humans can operate keyboards`
`02:30.34`	`Patlabor221`	`and monkeys`
`02:30.42`	`lan56`	`alright, and monkeys`
`02:30.47`	`Patlabor221`	`and robots`
`02:31.09`	`lan56`	`well, they don't actually use the keyboard, they just use the letters asociated to each key`
`02:31.20`	`Patlabor221`	`they have robots that type`
`02:31.25`	`Patlabor221`	`and don't forget the greys`
`02:31.42`	`lan56`	`alright, then bots, monkeys, and humans can use a keyboard`
`02:31.48`	`Patlabor221`	`and greys`
`02:31.56`	`lan56`	`never heard of that animal`
`02:32.06`	`Patlabor221`	`they are not generaly considerd animals`
`02:32.18`	`lan56`	`alright, then greys included, whatever they are`
`02:32.25`	`Patlabor221`	`so anything that is not a human is an animal?`
`02:32.32`	`lan56`	`humans are animals`
`02:33.10`	`Patlabor221`	`damn where are all the car theifs when you need one`
`02:33.20`	`lan56`	`you want to steal a car?`
`02:33.25`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`02:33.32`	`JBdiGriz`	`but back to the original hypothesis, let's say everyone here is either a human or a bot, i would say that's incorrect`
`02:33.38`	`Patlabor221`	`I'd just steal one if I needed the car`
`02:33.43`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`02:33.53`	`lan56`	`alright, so guu and ibot are bots`
`02:34.00`	`Patlabor221`	`I need the theifs`
`02:34.00`	`lan56`	`I am a human`
`02:34.37`	`JBdiGriz`	`Seeing as this is the Internet, statements like that are always suspect, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.`
`02:34.44`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh drug dealers, close enough!`
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`02:35.29`	`lan56`	`if there is a such thing as cyber-anger, and a way to express it so much that it can be close to how it is in real-life, I'd be full of it right now`
`02:35.30`	`JBdiGriz`	`actually the statement was that everyone here is human except guu and ibot, I had better be accurate in this one. ;)`
`02:36.11`	`JBdiGriz`	`typing in upper case is considered yelling, that's fairly close.`
`02:36.27`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't think he is good at reading his own words and/or understanding them`
`02:36.42`	`lan56`	`but we are just stuck with smileys, :) and :(, and jbdigriz's suggestion, uppercase typing, but that's abused too much by people who type like that all the time`
`02:37.14`	`JBdiGriz`	`However, if I find myself getting angry, I tend to start looking at my assumptions. Usually I'm drawing conclusions which can't be completely founded on fact.`
`02:37.38`	`lan56`	`anger doesn't always happen with conclusions`
`02:38.00`	`lan56`	`if you get short changed at a store, and can't get your money back, you don't say any conclusions`
`02:38.02`	`Patlabor221`	`it does happen a lot with asumptions`
`02:38.04`	`lan56`	`just that you were shortchanged`
`02:38.06`	`JBdiGriz`	`but there's usually a reason to get angry`
`02:38.07`	`Patlabor221`	`but nothing ever allways happens`
`02:38.48`	`lan56`	`ahh, forget any conversation I was involved in, I am too confused to continue`
`02:38.52`	`JBdiGriz`	`Is there a good reason to get angry if you are shortchanged, I will usually stop dealing with that store, and make sure the story is published somewhere.`
`02:39.16`	`lan56`	`I hate it when people say that if you don't like something, that you should leave or ignore it`
`02:39.18`	`lan56`	`that does nothing!`
`02:39.33`	`lan56`	`I have been in cases like that`
`02:39.50`	`lan56`	`if there is a warning about the problem, and you chose to accept it, then that is ok to do`
`02:40.06`	`lan56`	`but when a problem happens that nobody told you about, and they say that, that is wrong`
`02:40.31`	`CIA-1`	`BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/GameKeeper.cxx: de-bork`
`02:40.34`	`lan56`	`like saying that if you don't like president bush, to go live in a different country`
`02:40.43`	`lan56`	`I have heard of people like that`
`02:40.55`	`lan56`	`alright, now time for silence from me`
`02:41.02`	`JBdiGriz`	`Of course, but those are foolish people.`
`02:41.18`	`lan56`	`they sure are in my opinion`
`02:41.39`	`JBdiGriz`	`So are people like Alec Baldwin who stated that he would move to Canada if Bush won, and then didn't.`
`02:41.51`	`trepan`	`bump away, and taggin' would be a good idea too`
`02:41.56`	`lan56`	`hmm, I'd say thats just forgetful`
`02:42.22`	`lan56`	`heh, I remember when alec baldwin played charles nelson riley on SNL`
`02:42.36`	`lan56`	`it was such a good impersonation it was laughs to remember`
`02:42.57`	`lan56`	`alright, now silence, true silence, from me starting now`
`02:48.35`	`lan56`	`wow, bzfs does go into a loop, 99% cpu usage`
`02:48.44`	`lan56`	`but I was able to connect to my own server`
`02:48.45`	`Patlabor221`	`thats what we said the bug was`
`02:48.58`	`lan56`	`I thought you meant you couldnt connect at all`
`02:49.09`	`Patlabor221`	`can't`
`02:49.13`	`Patlabor221`	`and it uses 99`
`02:49.21`	`lan56`	`I only had half of that`
`02:49.50`	`trepan`	`lan56: true silence? and SETI was prolly eating your other half`
`02:50.07`	`bryjen`	`49.5?`
`02:50.11`	`lan56`	`alright, I just had to throw in those few messages`
`02:50.24`	`lan56`	`and no, compilation is alway that slow`
`02:50.43`	`Patlabor221`	`bryjen: somone busted the server it goes into a inf loop and sometimes dosn't return from flag negotiaion`
`02:50.57`	`Patlabor221`	`trepan is the man`
`02:51.08`	`lan56`	`nice`
`02:51.18`	`Patlabor221`	`does that mean it's time to stop beating up thugs?`
`02:51.32`	`trepan`	`na, twas but an extra character`
`02:51.47`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh the +1 part`
`02:52.29`	`trepan`	`poor old player 0 was getting neglected`
`02:53.04`	`trepan`	`dawned upon me that i'd made commits to bzfs since 1.738, so I shoulda known that that wasn't the prob`
`02:54.00`	`Patlabor221`	`so just in gamekeeper?`
`02:54.19`	`trepan`	`yup, far as I can tell`
`02:58.05`	`lan56`	`I feel like making some commits`
`02:58.46`	`Patlabor221`	`just don't cross the streams`
`02:58.56`	`lan56`	`cross the streams?`
`02:59.02`	`trepan`	`mmm, marshmellows`
`02:59.02`	`Patlabor221`	`it would be bad`
`02:59.12`	`bryjen`	`ok, egon`
`03:02.44`	`EgonSpengler`	`hmmm, now why would my server not be able to register it'self with it's own list server`
`03:03.16`	`PeterVenkman`	`don't know, anything showin' on your PK meter?`
`03:03.18`	`lan56`	`I'd say those were names from star wars`
`03:03.19`	`EgonSpengler`	`I collect spores, molds, and fungus.`
`03:03.36`	`bryjen`	`sound like you need a bath`
`03:03.43`	`PeterVenkman`	`i'm a sham, that scams on hot chicks`
`03:03.44`	`EgonSpengler`	`blasphmy lan56`
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`03:04.15`	`PeterVenkman`	`who's gonna be LouisTully?`
`03:04.20`	`lan56`	`I will`
`03:04.29`	`PeterVenkman`	`that's about right`
`03:04.29`	`EgonSpengler`	`Smells like burnt dog hair`
`03:04.50`	`bryjen`	`hmm, that'll need more than soap`
`03:05.13`	`PeterVenkman`	`let's all gather around the statue of liberty, and sing happy tunes`
`03:05.23`	`GDTRFB`	`print is dead`
`03:05.30`	`PeterVenkman`	`eesh, what a crap sequel`
`03:06.02`	`EgonSpengler`	`where is Jeneene`
`03:06.15`	`EgonSpengler`	`well the dancing toaster was funny`
`03:06.21`	`PeterVenkman`	`she kinda cute without the eyewear`
`03:06.31`	`bryjen`	`~seen ochid`
`03:06.32`	`ibot`	`i haven't seen 'ochid', bryjen`
`03:06.36`	`bryjen`	`buh`
`03:06.52`	`PeterVenkman`	`bryjen: ;) looking for candidates?`
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`03:09.55`	`PeterVenkman`	`anyone have a clue is to what GDTRFB meant?`
`03:10.22`	`LouisTully`	`get dtremenak far back`
`03:10.59`	`bryjen`	`~nslookup 24.171.118.70`
`03:11.28`	`bryjen`	`not one of the usual suspects`
`03:11.45`	`EgonSpengler`	`anyoone know if the list server will accept somethig other then BZFSXXXX for the version?`
`03:11.49`	`orange`	`bryjen: were you looking for ochid or orchid?`
`03:12.32`	`bryjen`	`we needed a supporting actress`
`03:12.57`	`EgonSpengler`	`who's gonna be the danna?`
`03:13.27`	`trepan`	`EgonSpengler: don't think so: db/support/BZFlag/Info.pm needs BZFS I think`
`03:13.47`	`EgonSpengler`	`sux`
`03:14.00`	`trepan`	`whatcha doing?`
`03:14.06`	`EgonSpengler`	`"stuff"`
`03:14.11`	`trepan`	`:)`
`03:14.45`	`bryjen`	`suberting an innocent game for world dominaion ;)`
`03:15.04`	`EgonSpengler`	`damnit you weren't suposed to tell anyone`
`03:15.05`	`bryjen`	`~spell subvert`
`03:15.06`	`ibot`	`'subvert' may be spelled correctly`
`03:15.10`	`EgonSpengler`	`and I gave you ALL THAT MONEY`
`03:15.28`	`bryjen`	`is that like below a pervert?`
`03:15.51`	`bryjen`	`and I spent it all on pr0n and MtDew`
`03:16.16`	`TheBrain`	`if you've got p0rn, ya gotta have Dew`
`03:16.36`	`EgonSpengler`	`naw you gotta blow it on beer and cookie dough`
`03:16.49`	`bryjen`	`eww`
`03:16.51`	`TheBrain`	`mmm, dough`
`03:16.57`	`bryjen`	`d'oh!`
`03:17.06`	`TheBrain`	`ray`
`03:17.16`	`EgonSpengler`	`hmm I don't think I have a full list server install`
`03:17.22`	`bryjen`	`menotume`
`03:17.32`	`EgonSpengler`	`do you need anything other then the php file?`
`03:17.34`	`TheBrain`	`heh`
`03:18.18`	`trepan`	`EgonSpengler: beats me, i've never touched the stuff`
`03:19.15`	`EgonSpengler`	`nor I`
`03:19.19`	`menotume`	`brygen`
`03:19.55`	`CIA-1`	`BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/AutoPilot.cxx: Roger should ignore zoned PZ shots if he is not zoned.`
`03:20.14`	`orange`	`can pz shoot?`
`03:20.19`	`LouisTully`	`yes`
`03:20.21`	`LouisTully`	`if zoned`
`03:20.27`	`LouisTully`	`then they shoot zoned shots`
`03:20.37`	`LouisTully`	`otherwise, they shoot normal shots`
`03:20.41`	`orange`	`is that new? I don't play superflags much, but I don't remember that.`
`03:20.46`	`LouisTully`	`yes its new`
`03:20.56`	`orange`	`ah, cool, thought I was losing it`
`03:26.12`	`CIA-1`	`BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/RobotPlayer.cxx: Roger passes down some knowledge.`
`03:38.38`	`CIA-1`	`BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/RobotPlayer.cxx: it's usually nice if it's error less.`
`03:40.53`	`CIA-1`	`BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: zoned PZ shots.`
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`03:55.46`	`CIA-1`	`BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/AutoPilot.cxx: there are certainly better targets than a tank with cloaking while Roger has laser.`
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`03:55.48`	`LouisTully`	`alright that's enough commiting for me, as for tonight`
`03:56.10`	`*** part/#bzflag Silver[a] (~SilverFox@68.116.46.109)`
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`04:28.45`	`lan56`	`dang, there was such a nice shot I forgot to take, I jumped up after my teammate feel from the sky with opposition flag, so I jump up and shoot the opposition tank following him in mid air, such a nice shot but forgot to get a photo`
`04:35.23`	`Carnage_`	`for the 1.11.6 im on bzgirls map and when i jump up to fire the bullets go up like they just hit a pyramid, like on a 25 degree angle, is this supposed to happen?`
`04:35.36`	`lan56`	`yes on that server it is`
`04:35.42`	`lan56`	`it's part of the configuration`
`04:36.18`	`Carnage_`	`awsome`
`04:36.38`	`lan56`	`a piece of artwork to say the least`
`04:36.45`	`Carnage_`	`i need the new files to update SS`
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`07:10.02`	`Cornfed`	`you know, reading Knightmare's cheat posts are actually interesting`
`07:10.11`	`Cornfed`	`it's like, learning about his life`
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