| 00:00.32 | GeekTechnica | I once spent 15 minutes troubleshooting why this woman's cash registers weren't working, asked her to check the server in the back office and she tells me "ok, let me go get a flashlight" when I asked her why she says "Oh, because the power went out about a half hour ago" |
| 00:01.16 | Noodleman | i need to calm down now |
| 00:02.42 | GeekTechnica | heheh.... I remember once this one Aeropostale store (the software co. I worked for creates point of sale and back office retail software) called in to us to see if we could let them out of the store... they closed the electronic gate (it was in a mall) and the power went out and trapped them inside... |
| 00:03.37 | GeekTechnica | they spent the night in the mall.. turns out that all they had to do was pull a lever for the manual release ;) |
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| 00:31.47 | Tupone | decks? |
| 00:32.43 | orchid | i cannot tonight Tupone |
| 00:32.54 | Tupone | :( |
| 00:33.02 | orchid | Sat night i think so |
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| 00:34.06 | Tupone | I have decks running at bzgirl ... with vertical velocity shot |
| 00:34.08 | orchid | hi Grumbler |
| 00:34.31 | lan56 | vertical velocity shot? whats that? |
| 00:34.45 | Tupone | go & try :) |
| 00:35.00 | lan56 | ok, hold on :) |
| 00:36.32 | Grumbler | orchid, dont suppose you know where libglade-2.0.pc would be installed on debian? |
| 00:36.59 | orchid | Grumbler: i will look |
| 00:37.06 | orchid | if i have it that is |
| 00:38.23 | lan56 | tupone: sorry, kicked because of lag |
| 00:39.17 | purple_cow | Grumbler: locate & find are your friends ;) |
| 00:39.24 | purple_cow | Grumbler: there may be a devel package you need to install |
| 00:39.37 | Grumbler | i hate find.... |
| 00:39.46 | Grumbler | always have to read the bloody man page |
| 00:39.46 | purple_cow | you hate find? |
| 00:40.15 | Grumbler | sry....its a personal battle i have been waging for many years |
| 00:40.17 | orchid | Grumbler: its installed, but i cannot locate that file. |
| 00:40.54 | Grumbler | orchid, thnx.....guess i have to shake off the dust |
| 00:41.23 | Grumbler | purple_cow, i installed libglade2-dev and libglade2.0....hopefully, i got it |
| 00:41.33 | orchid | im doing a find now, but i assume if locate cannot find the file, then find will not be able to locate it either :) |
| 00:42.05 | purple_cow | for me it's /usr/lib/pkgconfig |
| 00:43.42 | Grumbler | not there.....hmmm, i have more to install |
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| 00:48.23 | orchid | Grumbler: are you stable or unstable? |
| 00:48.43 | orchid | distrobutionally speaking |
| 00:49.12 | lan56 | how do you put a server in replay mode? |
| 00:49.41 | orchid | Grumbler: i have libglade2-0 and libglade2-0-dev on Sid, but not that file |
| 00:51.27 | orchid | Grumbler: sry, i do have it where purple_cow said his was, i didnt updatedb, (/usr/lib/pkgconfig/libglade-2.0.pc) |
| 00:52.44 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: replace the only contraction with the whole two words, just to make it sync with the other messages of the same type. |
| 00:54.23 | lan56 | ahh, nm I found out about -replay |
| 00:54.35 | Grumbler | orchid, unstable |
| 00:55.24 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/AutoPilot.cxx: 2 unused vars, and try to follow DEVINFO rules on formatting |
| 01:00.26 | Grumbler | aaahhh, i missed the error message....libglade2.0-dev failed to fetch |
| 01:01.00 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: we need to learn better English :) |
| 01:03.47 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Add errno.h include, to compile on debian stable |
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| 01:44.43 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Network usage dumped-out only for real players |
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| 01:59.10 | Grumbler | orchid, ok so, i did an upgrade from Kpackage, and then installed libglade2.0 from Kpackage, and the file is there now |
| 01:59.40 | orchid | yay |
| 01:59.42 | Grumbler | apt-get kept telling me libglade2.0-dev was installed, but it wasnt |
| 02:00.00 | Grumbler | ok, now onto real errors :) |
| 02:00.11 | orchid | --reinstall might help in that situaltion |
| 02:00.16 | orchid | or situation |
| 02:00.44 | Grumbler | ah, have to try that next time.....although the gui is not that retarded |
| 02:07.50 | lan56 | alright, got 24 wheat pennies! just added one I found today! |
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| 02:13.35 | Grumbler | whoohoo...it built |
| 02:21.50 | lan56 | ahh, ice cold chocolate milk, nothing like it |
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| 02:35.06 | Grumbler | laginfo.cxx, no such file or directory? |
| 02:39.50 | shopping | Grumbler, should be in src/game |
| 02:40.15 | shopping | might have recently moved from src/bzfs |
| 02:40.33 | Grumbler | ok, maybe pat hasnt updated vc71 yet |
| 02:40.44 | Grumbler | wow, that archipeligo map was cool |
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| 02:48.42 | Grumbler | shopping: yep, that fixed it....had to move things around......note that there was a LagInfo.h file referenced as well, that no longer exists |
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| 02:54.17 | shopping | Grumbler, LagInfo.h is in include/ |
| 02:59.10 | trepan | Grumbler: thx, notice the reflections? |
| 03:09.03 | lan56 | what is bzflag.bz, by the way? |
| 03:09.38 | shopping | it's a domain name? |
| 03:09.51 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:09.58 | lan56 | smart alic ;) no I mean like what does it do? what is its purpose? |
| 03:10.14 | shopping | we shall see |
| 03:10.25 | lan56 | well, what does it currently do? |
| 03:10.27 | blast007 | well, there are some bzflag servers hosted at that domain at the moment |
| 03:10.48 | lan56 | I have visited it, it just says it redirects to bzflag.org, but you often times put stuff on it |
| 03:10.49 | shopping | for starters, it'll host several bzflag servers |
| 03:10.55 | lan56 | so I know that there is more to it |
| 03:11.02 | lan56 | ahh |
| 03:11.26 | shopping | the bzflag.bz web space isn't being used much by me, some users have put it to good use |
| 03:11.34 | shopping | cept for /tmp :) |
| 03:11.45 | lan56 | :) |
| 03:12.18 | shopping | lan56, did you see the graphs? |
| 03:12.25 | lan56 | of server usage? |
| 03:12.28 | shopping | yes |
| 03:12.37 | lan56 | only the secretplace one that you linked to |
| 03:12.53 | shopping | http://bzflag.bz/usage/ |
| 03:13.18 | lan56 | oh, heh, they're all secretplace :) |
| 03:15.20 | shopping | secretplace was the only one keeping mrtg statistics |
| 03:15.59 | Cornfed | I have noticed that secretplace tends to keep good maintenance on their server |
| 03:16.07 | shopping | if you look carefully, you should be able to figure out exactly what circumstances a modem will crap out, both upload and download |
| 03:17.00 | Cornfed | do you know what connection speed secretplace is hosted on? |
| 03:18.32 | shopping | he's told me before, but I don't quite recall |
| 03:18.53 | shopping | it's at least a full T1, iirc |
| 03:19.04 | Cornfed | sounds reasonable |
| 03:21.47 | blast007 | <Nidhoggr> I am committed to 2mbps |
| 03:21.48 | blast007 | <Nidhoggr> which is a good deal. |
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| 03:29.04 | lan56 | wouldn't a lighted up HUD be neat, like those in airplanes? |
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| 04:26.30 | poxy | mrtg stats for a bzflag server == cool heh :) |
| 04:26.52 | lan56 | I am 100% monkey. |
| 04:34.08 | lan56 | I am creating a map that I will be famous for :) |
| 04:34.28 | lan56 | one, that will make Decks look like table scraps |
| 04:34.36 | lan56 | one, that will be nothing short of art |
| 04:34.50 | lan56 | one that will make you re-examine your life |
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| 05:24.32 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (RecordReplay.cxx bzfs.cxx): fix some more replay stuff |
| 05:25.21 | trepan | lan56: you gonna back that up with an actual map? ;) |
| 05:25.30 | lan56 | no :) |
| 05:25.32 | lan56 | yes :) |
| 05:25.52 | lan56 | I am creating a small C program to create a map that is a maze |
| 05:25.59 | lan56 | you don't have a tool to do that, do yu? |
| 05:26.00 | lan56 | *you |
| 05:26.17 | trepan | i've got a tool written for making maps, but not mazes specifically |
| 05:26.21 | lan56 | I mean an actual maze, that is like a real hedge maze |
| 05:26.23 | lan56 | ahh |
| 05:26.33 | trepan | http://members.rogers.com/trepan/, look for bzmapper |
| 05:26.40 | lan56 | I have it |
| 05:26.52 | lan56 | well, I did have it :) |
| 05:26.56 | lan56 | I don't make maps often |
| 05:27.16 | lan56 | I did like the ease of compilation, very nice tools they are |
| 05:31.35 | trepan | i've seen at least two prior maze maps, maybe you could find out who wrote them, and then ask them for their tools |
| 05:31.52 | lan56 | nah, thats just copying what they already did |
| 05:31.58 | The_Viper | i kno maze tools! |
| 05:32.08 | The_Viper | forthfreak made one |
| 05:32.18 | The_Viper | he made a script |
| 05:32.23 | lan56 | in what language? |
| 05:32.27 | The_Viper | english |
| 05:32.33 | lan56 | ahh |
| 05:32.47 | The_Viper | http://forthfreak.net/bzflag/thecomplex2.def |
| 05:33.07 | The_Viper | Try that |
| 05:33.17 | lan56 | but what programming language is that in? |
| 05:33.23 | The_Viper | gives examples |
| 05:33.27 | The_Viper | dunno lol |
| 05:33.49 | lan56 | looks like an older language |
| 05:33.54 | lan56 | by the "bye" at the ednd |
| 05:33.56 | lan56 | *end |
| 05:34.05 | lan56 | older languages were polite |
| 05:34.11 | lan56 | newer languages are mean |
| 05:34.21 | The_Viper | lol |
| 05:34.44 | trepan | ~google maze generation |
| 05:36.41 | lan56 | heh, trepan: I see what you mean by how much fun it is to program programs to create maps for you. not only does it save a whopping amount of time if done right, but it is fun to see the outcome |
| 05:43.27 | Grumbler | yeah, trepan ....the moving water was cool.....made me a little seasick :) |
| 05:44.28 | SportChick | hi everyone |
| 05:44.34 | lan56 | hello sportchick |
| 05:44.37 | Grumbler | evening SportChick |
| 05:44.42 | SportChick | how you all doing? |
| 05:44.45 | GeekTechnica | hello |
| 05:44.58 | lan56 | how was it? |
| 05:45.15 | SportChick | I thought it was much better than the 1st one |
| 05:45.34 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:45.37 | GeekTechnica | *sigh* I wanna see it... but I don't have the $$ at the moment |
| 05:45.42 | lan56 | it better be, it's making too much money if you ask me |
| 05:45.46 | lurgy | that movie had some of the most interesting science i've ever seen :) |
| 05:46.01 | lan56 | how much is a theatre ticket these days? |
| 05:46.01 | lurgy | it made me happy |
| 05:46.07 | lan56 | $5 last time I checked |
| 05:46.07 | lurgy | too much |
| 05:46.14 | SportChick | I don't wanna know - almost 10, I think |
| 05:46.19 | lurgy | $7 here with student discount |
| 05:46.23 | lurgy | $9 otherwise |
| 05:46.30 | SportChick | we rarely go out to the movies - usually stay in and watch netflix |
| 05:47.07 | SportChick | awww... |
| 05:47.23 | SportChick | we don't have cable - we got netflix instead |
| 05:47.27 | SportChick | and it's cheaper! :) |
| 05:47.34 | Grumbler | i did as well......but the lag between return and send was getting longer and longer |
| 05:47.55 | Grumbler | i would return on a monday, and not have a new movie till the next monday |
| 05:47.59 | SportChick | really? ours is shorter |
| 05:48.05 | SportChick | we just had to find the right post office |
| 05:48.06 | trepan | i have cable, but no TV, and I just gave my dvd away :) |
| 05:48.09 | SportChick | 1 day each way |
| 05:48.38 | SportChick | and we switched to the 5-at-a-time. Now we always have movies to watch |
| 05:48.44 | Grumbler | thats how it started for me as well.....then, it became 2 days, then 3....etc |
| 05:49.18 | Grumbler | i dont think they liked me, i kept telling them their movies were scratched |
| 05:49.22 | Grumbler | :) |
| 05:49.27 | SportChick | heh |
| 05:49.33 | SportChick | we haven't really had any problems |
| 05:49.48 | SportChick | well, one movie was mia for a while, but it showed up eventually (went MIA when we shipped it back) |
| 05:50.38 | Grumbler | i miss the ability to get the IFC and foreign films..... |
| 05:51.08 | Grumbler | gmm |
| 05:51.35 | Grumbler | ~gmm |
| 05:52.30 | Grumbler | ah well, guess i will let them play out......put the new version up tomorrow..... |
| 05:52.35 | Grumbler | have a nice night all |
| 05:52.49 | SportChick | gnight grumbler |
| 05:52.56 | lan56 | cya grumble |
| 05:53.03 | lan56 | fast sleep |
| 05:53.26 | lurgy | lala |
| 05:53.32 | lan56 | zzz |
| 05:54.04 | lan56 | do any of you know if kobe bryant has left the lakers yet? |
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| 06:12.49 | SportChick | someone on SP just had the shots diff color than tank bug |
| 06:13.12 | lan56 | was it a cheat? |
| 06:13.21 | lan56 | what color were they, and what team color was he? |
| 06:13.32 | SportChick | Noodleman, he was complaining (and I've had the same problem) |
| 06:13.37 | lan56 | ahh |
| 06:13.37 | SportChick | he is blue but his bullets were red |
| 06:13.44 | SportChick | I had him reconnect and same |
| 06:13.51 | SportChick | he closed out game and restarted and now it's fixed |
| 06:14.31 | lan56 | hmm, sounds like a client bug, as in the client calls the wrong .png |
| 06:14.41 | SportChick | dunno |
| 06:14.46 | SportChick | I've had the same issue before |
| 06:14.49 | SportChick | he's running 1.10.6 |
| 06:15.13 | lan56 | shopping: do you know the status of this bug? |
| 06:16.21 | lan56 | can't find it in the changelog, have you submitted a bug report to sf.net? |
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| 06:25.46 | sgk284 | howdy |
| 06:25.53 | lan56 | hello sgk284 |
| 06:26.04 | sgk284 | hey lan! |
| 06:26.09 | sgk284 | how goes it? |
| 06:26.17 | lan56 | it's going fine |
| 06:26.18 | lan56 | and you? |
| 06:26.33 | sgk284 | wonderful:) |
| 06:26.44 | lan56 | thats good to hear! :) |
| 06:27.09 | sgk284 | heh, doing anything good for the 4th? |
| 06:27.19 | lan56 | no, just seeing fireworks |
| 06:27.23 | lan56 | how about you? |
| 06:27.44 | lan56 | wait, the 4th of what? ;) |
| 06:27.45 | sgk284 | i'm going to my shore house and gonna watch the fireworks from the bay in our boat:) should be fun |
| 06:27.55 | lan56 | sounds like a blast |
| 06:27.59 | lan56 | sounds relaxing as well |
| 06:28.02 | sgk284 | yep yep:) |
| 06:28.10 | sgk284 | i'm more interested in the relaxing part heh |
| 06:28.15 | lan56 | :)))) |
| 06:28.36 | sgk284 | ever play wolfensteain:enemey territory? |
| 06:28.40 | lan56 | no |
| 06:29.06 | sgk284 | neither have i heh, but the source was released a bit ago and i just saw they have a linux client, so i'm d/ling it and gonna check it out |
| 06:29.13 | sgk284 | it seems pretty cool |
| 06:29.20 | lan56 | are you building from source? |
| 06:29.20 | sgk284 | it'll be the only other PC game i |
| 06:29.26 | sgk284 | 've played besides bzflag |
| 06:29.29 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:29.34 | lan56 | you have no life |
| 06:29.35 | lan56 | :) |
| 06:29.37 | sgk284 | nah i'm d/ling the binary |
| 06:29.50 | lan56 | you're too lame to build from source ;) |
| 06:29.52 | lan56 | jk |
| 06:30.01 | sgk284 | with intentions of playing with the source later:) |
| 06:30.07 | lan56 | ahh, there we go :) |
| 06:30.11 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:30.31 | sgk284 | hows your c++ dev kit project comign along? |
| 06:30.40 | sgk284 | or is it not? heh |
| 06:30.44 | lan56 | slow, slow, but pretty good otherwise |
| 06:30.47 | lan56 | it's not :) |
| 06:30.54 | sgk284 | any more releases? |
| 06:31.05 | lan56 | you mean there was a release to begin with? :) |
| 06:31.11 | lan56 | not anything on the horizon |
| 06:31.27 | sgk284 | haha |
| 06:31.34 | lan56 | heh, the fire department & police, & ambulance just went up my stret |
| 06:31.52 | sgk284 | well at least they didnt stop at your house ;) |
| 06:32.02 | lan56 | what do you mean they didn't? :) |
| 06:32.32 | sgk284 | haha |
| 06:33.19 | sgk284 | i hope it runs on my measily intel i810 graphics chip heh |
| 06:33.30 | lan56 | good luck :) |
| 06:33.32 | sgk284 | its a laptop so you cant expect much :) |
| 06:33.37 | sgk284 | i'm not a big gamer :? |
| 06:33.37 | lan56 | true, true |
| 06:33.39 | sgk284 | :/ |
| 06:33.45 | sgk284 | unless its bz:) |
| 06:33.46 | lan56 | Its tough to smile like :? in life |
| 06:33.53 | lan56 | I don't know how you do it |
| 06:33.53 | sgk284 | haha |
| 06:34.04 | sgk284 | oh its tricky but i got it;) |
| 06:34.09 | lan56 | I am on fire tonight! :) |
| 06:34.15 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:35.24 | sgk284 | thats why the fire department went by... to make sure you were okay |
| 06:35.37 | lan56 | and the laughs all of a sudden died down |
| 06:35.38 | lan56 | :) |
| 06:35.42 | lan56 | jk |
| 06:35.50 | sgk284 | haha |
| 06:35.56 | lan56 | (insert laughs here) |
| 06:36.30 | lan56 | jeez, that is a sad life ;) |
| 06:36.32 | lan56 | jk again |
| 06:37.15 | sgk284 | haha |
| 06:39.53 | sgk284 | well i |
| 06:39.58 | sgk284 | 'm off to go try out this new game |
| 06:39.59 | sgk284 | cya |
| 06:40.01 | lan56 | cya |
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| 08:45.41 | Stilgad | I've got a problem, anyone online for help? |