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`00:11.42`	`lurgy`	`glarb`
`00:11.47`	`lan56`	`http://bash.org/?337295 -- that is funny, I am guessing, because that word is impronouncable, but I think the statement of the kid's age also takes away from the humor :( but it is pretty funny`
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`00:13.47`	`StArHaCkT`	`anyone remember rocks and diamonds?`
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`00:22.33`	`lan56`	`:)`
`00:22.36`	`StArHaCkT`	`:-D`
`00:24.18`	`lan56`	`http://bash.org/?105841 -- also very funny; I like the one liners best, they're fast laughs`
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`00:32.19`	`lan56`	`I guess its the style to just join, close the IRC window, the join again, and repeat`
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`00:57.33`	`StArHaCkT`	`i dare sum1 to slap me`
`00:57.53`	`StArHaCkT`	`cmon sum1 do it`
`00:59.49`	`amathis`	`StArHaCkT, who might you be?`
`00:59.54`	`StArHaCkT`	`idk`
`00:59.56`	`StArHaCkT`	`slap me`
`01:00.10`	`StArHaCkT`	`lol`
`01:00.26`	`StArHaCkT`	`:-P`
`01:00.26`	`amathis`	`*idiocy`
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`01:40.03`	`lan56`	`lol at tartaros's exit message`
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`01:40.44`	`havoc_`	`hey cosmos`
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`02:13.41`	`lan56`	`what happens if opengl commands to draw things are given in a program, but the program never creates a window? like, it's a console program and a separate window is never created by the program`
`02:19.40`	`Patlabor221`	`if no context is active the command will return an error`
`02:20.13`	`lan56`	`so to render using opengl you have to create a separate window?`
`02:20.23`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`02:20.28`	`Patlabor221`	`context != window`
`02:20.34`	`Patlabor221`	`there has to be a current context`
`02:20.43`	`lan56`	`context?`
`02:20.50`	`Patlabor221`	`an openGL context`
`02:20.53`	`Patlabor221`	`rendering conttext`
`02:20.56`	`Patlabor221`	`thing to render too`
`02:21.05`	`lan56`	`how is a console window sound?`
`02:21.13`	`lan56`	`like command prompt`
`02:21.15`	`Patlabor221`	`depends on your GL driver`
`02:21.18`	`Patlabor221`	`but generaly no`
`02:21.27`	`Quol`	`any takers on checking out my latest HTF instance - I created a new map, and hopefully this will be OK for a public HTF server - until server side is ready...`
`02:21.32`	`Patlabor221`	`if you on windows you can generaly only bind RCs to DCs`
`02:21.44`	`lan56`	`dc?`
`02:21.52`	`Patlabor221`	`Device context`
`02:21.53`	`lan56`	`Quol: I will play, just one second`
`02:21.57`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`02:21.59`	`Patlabor221`	`never done any windows programing have you?`
`02:22.07`	`blast007_away`	`http://nehe.gamedev.net/lesson.asp?index=01`
`02:22.10`	`lan56`	`heh, no, I am a console person really`
`02:22.13`	`Quol`	`K - great - meet you there...`
`02:22.18`	`lan56`	`what port?`
`02:22.32`	`Patlabor221`	`use SDL, it' gives you a quicky window and context`
`02:22.48`	`Quol`	`in the list - 5168 though`
`02:22.57`	`Quol`	`it should be in the list that is :)`
`02:23.02`	`lan56`	`yes, I did install SDL, works great, gives a seg fault on some examples, but some work`
`02:23.17`	`lan56`	`can opengl and sdl be used together?`
`02:23.21`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`02:23.28`	`lan56`	`sorry for sounding very stupid`
`02:23.31`	`Patlabor221`	`sdl can get u a context`
`02:23.50`	`lan56`	`would you happen to know the name of the function to create a context`
`02:25.33`	`GeekTechnica`	`heh`
`02:25.35`	`Patlabor221`	`init video`
`02:25.50`	`lan56`	`SDL_init_video()?`
`02:26.06`	`Patlabor221`	`when yeah`
`02:26.06`	`triclops`	`oh, www.libsdl.org has had a facelift`
`02:26.26`	`Patlabor221`	`if you pass it the "make me an openGL" flag, it'll make a context`
`02:26.27`	`lan56`	`great, thanks patlabor`
`02:26.28`	`Patlabor221`	`and select it`
`02:26.39`	`lan56`	`whats the name of that flag?`
`02:26.43`	`Patlabor221`	`then just do your GL then call SDL_swapBuffers`
`02:26.55`	`Patlabor221`	`I would guess the only one with OPENGL in it`
`02:27.03`	`lan56`	`:)`
`02:27.07`	`Patlabor221`	`I can find out for you in a bit`
`02:27.12`	`lan56`	`no its fine`
`02:27.16`	`Patlabor221`	`I did all this once for LGE/SGL`
`02:27.21`	`lan56`	`dont cause yourself trouble, thanks anyway`
`02:27.25`	`Patlabor221`	`I have it here`
`02:27.27`	`Patlabor221`	`one sec`
`02:27.30`	`Patlabor221`	`and I offerd`
`02:27.36`	`Patlabor221`	`if It was trouble I would not`
`02:28.19`	`lan56`	`how did you learn? college, tutorials? just curious, if you don't mind my asking`
`02:28.22`	`triclops`	`http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cbro903/plg-final-pdf-no-really-i-mean-it-this-time.pdf has details on how to use SDL`
`02:28.30`	`triclops`	`with ogl too`
`02:28.35`	`Patlabor221`	`using SDL with GL is super easy`
`02:28.40`	`Patlabor221`	`all SDL does is the setup`
`02:28.43`	`lan56`	`good, I will remember that url`
`02:28.46`	`Patlabor221`	`I just read the docs and hooked it up`
`02:29.00`	`triclops`	`lan56: i dunno how long it will remain`
`02:29.12`	`Patlabor221`	`there we are, SGL/3dView`
`02:29.16`	`lan56`	`its usually nice if you tell me how :)`
`02:29.32`	`Patlabor221`	`heck you can use SGL if you want`
`02:29.35`	`Patlabor221`	`it's even easyer`
`02:29.58`	`lan56`	`www.libsgl.org?`
`02:30.23`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`02:30.23`	`Patlabor221`	`I made SGL`
`02:30.35`	`lan56`	`oh, well where can I find it`
`02:31.07`	`Patlabor221`	`SDL_SetVideoMode(x,y,0,SDL_OPENGL);`
`02:31.14`	`Patlabor221`	`I can zip it for you if you wish`
`02:31.18`	`Patlabor221`	`no real docs tho`
`02:31.24`	`lan56`	`no, its fine`
`02:31.27`	`lan56`	`thank you anyway`
`02:31.32`	`Patlabor221`	`hoooka`
`02:31.43`	`lan56`	`I wrote down that function`
`02:31.55`	`Patlabor221`	`that will make a window X by Y at the desktop bpp with GL`
`02:32.06`	`Patlabor221`	`add in SDL_FULLSCREEN if you want full screen`
`02:32.12`	`lan56`	`wow, I didn't think it was that easy`
`02:32.12`	`Patlabor221`	`and besure to init video`
`02:32.21`	`Patlabor221`	`SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO )`
`02:32.21`	`Patlabor221`	`first`
`02:32.24`	`lan56`	`SDL_InitVideo()?`
`02:32.28`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`02:32.29`	`blast007_away`	`lan56: http://www.libsdl.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/SDL12/test/testgl.c?rev=1.11`
`02:32.31`	`lan56`	`didn't see that`
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`02:32.43`	`lan56`	`I tryed that example, gives a seg fault :(`
`02:32.45`	`blast007`	`ah`
`02:32.53`	`Patlabor221`	`then debug it :)`
`02:33.03`	`lan56`	`but isn't it already debuged?`
`02:33.09`	`Patlabor221`	`aperantly not`
`02:33.13`	`Patlabor221`	`if it crashes`
`02:33.20`	`Patlabor221`	`or I can make you a helo triangle if you want`
`02:33.26`	`Patlabor221`	`after I become clensed`
`02:33.26`	`lan56`	`well, I can't since I can't fit a "printf()" in there to see how far I got ;)`
`02:33.34`	`lan56`	`no, its fine, thank you`
`02:33.45`	`Patlabor221`	`how you gonna do printf in full screen video?`
`02:33.47`	`lan56`	`:) I will use GDB, for once :)`
`02:34.10`	`Patlabor221`	`why don't you like help?`
`02:34.10`	`lan56`	`I do like help, thats why I asked`
`02:34.20`	`Patlabor221`	`be sure to call SDL_GL_SwapBuffers();`
`02:34.20`	`Patlabor221`	`glFlush();`
`02:34.23`	`Patlabor221`	`at the end of every frame`
`02:34.32`	`Patlabor221`	`and glClear(GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT \| GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT \| GL_STENCIL_BUFFER_BIT);`
`02:34.35`	`Patlabor221`	`at the begining`
`02:34.39`	`lan56`	`oh, yes, I've heard of those, will remember`
`02:34.45`	`Patlabor221`	`then have fun with the matrix`
`02:34.52`	`lan56`	`the matrix?`
`02:34.54`	`lan56`	`the movie?`
`02:34.57`	`lan56`	`good movie BTW`
`02:35.03`	`lan56`	`very good, all three`
`02:35.11`	`mebigfatguy`	`3 not so much`
`02:35.27`	`lan56`	`it was ok, I liked, I liked the first the best, however`
`02:35.28`	`Patlabor221`	`3 not at all`
`02:35.34`	`Patlabor221`	`no the modelview matrix`
`02:35.41`	`lan56`	`oh :)`
`02:35.43`	`Patlabor221`	`that is the bigest GL hurdle for n00bs`
`02:35.50`	`Patlabor221`	`the fact that GL has no camera`
`02:36.26`	`lan56`	`I am glad we had this talk, patlabor, I learned a lot`
`02:36.32`	`Patlabor221`	`you did?`
`02:36.39`	`lan56`	`not really :) of course!`
`02:36.58`	`lan56`	`I learned how to create RDs, and how everything is initialised`
`02:37.18`	`Patlabor221`	`actualy it seems you didn't read anything cus I have NO clue what an RD is`
`02:37.24`	`Patlabor221`	`and I think you mean RC and DC`
`02:37.29`	`lan56`	`yes :)`
`02:37.32`	`Patlabor221`	`but they have nothing to do with SGL`
`02:37.35`	`Patlabor221`	`sorry SDL`
`02:37.46`	`lan56`	`I know, but it answered my question`
`02:37.55`	`triclops`	`heh`
`02:37.58`	`Patlabor221`	`depending on your GL impelemntation you may not be able to even make a windows`
`02:38.05`	`Patlabor221`	`like an old voodoo`
`02:38.09`	`Patlabor221`	`only full screen`
`02:38.11`	`Patlabor221`	`no GDI`
`02:38.25`	`lan56`	`I like fullscreen better`
`02:38.29`	`lan56`	`so thats ok`
`02:38.45`	`Patlabor221`	`no debuger :)`
`02:38.52`	`Patlabor221`	`no 2d output at all :)`
`02:39.03`	`lan56`	`I dont use a debugger, remember :)`
`02:39.04`	`Patlabor221`	`unless you get some piping`
`02:39.07`	`Patlabor221`	`no printf`
`02:39.13`	`lan56`	`I know :)`
`02:39.16`	`Patlabor221`	`tho you don't have a voodoo`
`02:39.18`	`Patlabor221`	`do you?`
`02:39.24`	`lan56`	`no I dont think so`
`02:39.28`	`Patlabor221`	`what card you got?`
`02:39.30`	`lan56`	`my graphics card?`
`02:39.37`	`Patlabor221`	`ja`
`02:39.48`	`lan56`	`it starts with SG`
`02:39.53`	`lan56`	`I cant remember the whole name`
`02:40.01`	`lan56`	`or maybe just an S`
`02:40.02`	`Patlabor221`	`sg?!?!?!?`
`02:40.08`	`lan56`	`let me check`
`02:40.35`	`lan56`	`prosavage`
`02:40.40`	`Patlabor221`	`oh`
`02:40.42`	`Patlabor221`	`wow`
`02:40.46`	`lan56`	`s3 prosavage`
`02:40.46`	`GeekTechnica`	`heheh`
`02:40.46`	`Patlabor221`	`ummmm`
`02:40.49`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`02:40.51`	`lan56`	`whats the problem?`
`02:40.55`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm like REALLLY REALLLY sorry`
`02:41.01`	`blast007`	`lol`
`02:41.01`	`lan56`	`why is that?`
`02:41.08`	`Patlabor221`	`cus that card`
`02:41.09`	`Patlabor221`	`well`
`02:41.12`	`Patlabor221`	`sucks`
`02:41.16`	`Patlabor221`	`and sucks HARD`
`02:41.25`	`lan56`	`:) even voodoo is better?`
`02:41.37`	`Patlabor221`	`a voodoo3, sure`
`02:41.45`	`Patlabor221`	`best of luck trying to draw a textured quad`
`02:41.49`	`lan56`	`so, where do I download a better card?`
`02:41.53`	`lan56`	`:)`
`02:42.02`	`Patlabor221`	`bestbuy`
`02:42.17`	`lan56`	`then how come bzflag renders so nicely?`
`02:42.18`	`Patlabor221`	`GF2MXs should be under 30`
`02:42.30`	`Patlabor221`	`cus you've never seen better`
`02:42.38`	`lan56`	`lol`
`02:42.43`	`Patlabor221`	`bzflag, not so graphicaly intenive there`
`02:42.54`	`lan56`	`no I mean, it really is nice`
`02:42.55`	`Patlabor221`	`that thing even do 32 bit textures?`
`02:42.56`	`lan56`	`clear, bright`
`02:42.59`	`lan56`	`yes`
`02:43.15`	`Patlabor221`	`that card will choke on more geo`
`02:43.26`	`GeekTechnica`	`does your motherboard even have an AGP slot?`
`02:43.32`	`Patlabor221`	`OpenGL certification states that it will look the same`
`02:43.37`	`Patlabor221`	`how many FPS you get?`
`02:43.38`	`lan56`	`I guess so`
`02:43.43`	`lan56`	`in bzflag about 30`
`02:43.48`	`Patlabor221`	`thats it?`
`02:43.52`	`blast007`	`what res?`
`02:43.53`	`lan56`	`its good`
`02:43.54`	`Patlabor221`	`how fast is your CPU?`
`02:44.00`	`lan56`	`1.656 ghz`
`02:44.00`	`Patlabor221`	`no 270 is good`
`02:44.03`	`GeekTechnica`	`thats about what I got on my GF2MX200 pci card`
`02:44.13`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah cus that's PCI man :)`
`02:44.14`	`lan56`	`the human eye sees only up to 20 frames/sec, so its pretty fine for me`
`02:44.21`	`GeekTechnica`	`then again... back then I only had a 500mhz proc`
`02:44.21`	`Patlabor221`	`lan 45-60`
`02:44.23`	`blast007`	`I can get 90+ on my card`
`02:44.33`	`blast007`	`and I've got a PIII 800MHz`
`02:44.37`	`lan56`	`darn that many frames fits in one eye!?!?!`
`02:44.39`	`mebigfatguy`	`perhaps his human eyes ... :)`
`02:44.41`	`Patlabor221`	`and with the squat GEO sent thru, tha thing will barf`
`02:44.55`	`lan56`	`my science teacher lied to me then!`
`02:44.55`	`Patlabor221`	`but what ever works for you`
`02:45.02`	`Patlabor221`	`it' varys per person`
`02:45.08`	`Patlabor221`	`20 is where persitance comes in`
`02:45.17`	`Patlabor221`	`tho that will be flickery to many people`
`02:45.20`	`mebigfatguy`	`set your refresh rate at 50 and see how long it takes you to get a headache :)`
`02:45.23`	`Patlabor221`	`in games 60 is considerd "solid"`
`02:45.28`	`orange`	`who here lives in Phoenix?`
`02:45.39`	`lan56`	`but the frames seem to go so nicely and smooth`
`02:45.41`	`lan56`	`no stutter`
`02:45.42`	`mebigfatguy`	`i'm thinking 'orange' ?`
`02:45.44`	`lan56`	`or skipped`
`02:45.49`	`Patlabor221`	`lan56: like I say, you have never seen better`
`02:45.50`	`blast007`	`lan56: Check out f+'s server...it's running Pyramid, a map with a huge object count`
`02:46.01`	`orange`	`mebigfatguy: no, I'm flying in tomorrow for a quick business trip`
`02:46.11`	`lan56`	`well, I think its fine`
`02:46.19`	`lan56`	`the frames seem like that fast as in real life`
`02:46.32`	`mebigfatguy`	`aww come on, break a 25 spot out of your wallet`
`02:46.47`	`lan56`	`there is no $25 bill`
`02:46.55`	`mebigfatguy`	`anyone try 'c2' yet?`
`02:47.06`	`lan56`	`oh jesus, I had to be at quols server`
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`03:01.30`	`BZFlag9351`	`hello?`
`03:01.52`	`Patlabor221`	`hello`
`03:02.03`	`BZFlag9351`	`patla!`
`03:02.42`	`BZFlag9351`	`is there a web admin interface for the server?`
`03:02.47`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`03:02.58`	`Patlabor221`	`there is the bzadmin application`
`03:03.05`	`Patlabor221`	`but you run that on your computer`
`03:03.13`	`BZFlag9351`	`*nix?`
`03:03.17`	`Patlabor221`	`all`
`03:03.29`	`Patlabor221`	`it's built by defalt`
`03:03.37`	`Patlabor221`	`but you can just do admin stuff`
`03:03.42`	`JBdiGriz`	`orange: Nidhoggr lives in Phoenix`
`03:03.48`	`Patlabor221`	`not change game type, or map or antyhing like that`
`03:05.38`	`BZFlag9351`	`whats this irc server url? freenode.net?`
`03:05.47`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`03:05.53`	`Patlabor221`	`irc.freenode.net`
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`03:07.46`	`BZFlag9351`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:07.51`	`Patlabor221`	`we see`
`03:08.36`	`TankThis`	`patla, i setup a copy of Vipers CTF Castles with Rogues... however the maxplayer is 36, and supposed to be 12`
`03:09.00`	`Patlabor221`	`what is your plaers part of the command line look like?`
`03:09.12`	`Patlabor221`	`or config or whatever`
`03:09.12`	`TankThis`	`-mp 12,12,0,12,0,3`
`03:09.20`	`Patlabor221`	`that adds up to 36`
`03:09.23`	`Patlabor221`	`so makes sense`
`03:09.39`	`TankThis`	`ok i see`
`03:09.47`	`Patlabor221`	`I think you want -mp 4,4,0,4,0,3`
`03:09.53`	`Patlabor221`	`that adds up to 12 real players`
`03:10.00`	`TankThis`	`so i should be 1,6,0,6,0,3`
`03:10.10`	`Patlabor221`	`that is 13 players`
`03:10.22`	`Patlabor221`	`and 3 observers`
`03:11.07`	`TankThis`	`thanks and im glad i am not forced to use mIRC LOL`
`03:11.23`	`Patlabor221`	`you can use any IRC client you wish`
`03:11.30`	`Patlabor221`	`I prefer Xcaht`
`03:11.41`	`TankThis`	`i like Fedora Core 2 with linux kernel 2.6`
`03:11.58`	`Patlabor221`	`that is an OD`
`03:12.01`	`Patlabor221`	`OS`
`03:12.06`	`Patlabor221`	`it should come with xchat`
`03:12.13`	`purple_cow`	`wheeeeeeeeee`
`03:12.16`	`TankThis`	`im on Xchat LOL`
`03:12.22`	`Patlabor221`	`there ya go then`
`03:12.36`	`TankThis`	`i was saying, i quit windows cold turkey :P`
`03:12.45`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh`
`03:12.46`	`Patlabor221`	`fun`
`03:12.48`	`menotume`	`no WinPatch ?`
`03:13.24`	`Patlabor221`	`it's called lindows`
`03:13.31`	`menotume`	`hehe`
`03:13.42`	`Patlabor221`	`or vmware`
`03:14.02`	`menotume`	`lindows for 30 days, then off completely`
`03:14.09`	`TankThis`	`lol`
`03:14.21`	`Patlabor221`	`well, unless you want to play a game :)`
`03:14.31`	`menotume`	`ya, then it's ok to cheat`
`03:14.38`	`TankThis`	`yeah i dualboot just for Everquest :P`
`03:14.46`	`bryjen`	`hmm, never heard of the "cold turkey" edition of windows. theres pro, server, home....`
`03:15.09`	`Patlabor221`	`it goes by "ME" sometimes`
`03:15.38`	`blast007`	`Windows ME...shudders...`
`03:15.46`	`GeekTechnica`	`I thought that was the name of a particularly bad virus`
`03:16.00`	`Patlabor221`	`bout the same as far as the drive is concerned`
`03:16.05`	`blast007`	`yeah, it infects Windows 98 and makes it crash`
`03:16.06`	`bryjen`	`.. media center, tablet, ce, oh my!`
`03:16.20`	`Patlabor221`	`MC isn't bad`
`03:16.32`	`Patlabor221`	`some kinda cool tivoesqe stuff`
`03:16.40`	`Patlabor221`	`and I wouldn't mind a tabletPC`
`03:17.03`	`Patlabor221`	`for a digital sketchpad`
`03:17.11`	`GeekTechnica`	`tablet pcs are interesting...`
`03:17.20`	`bryjen`	`i've heard there basicly funky expensive laptops right now`
`03:17.27`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`03:17.32`	`GeekTechnica`	`I'd still prefer a regular pc and a wacom pad though`
`03:17.32`	`Patlabor221`	`but I don't need a laptop`
`03:17.44`	`Patlabor221`	`I need something I can take notes and sketch out stuff on`
`03:17.51`	`Patlabor221`	`and also bring up a part if needed`
`03:18.14`	`Patlabor221`	`as you can see I'm not the best typest :)`
`03:18.15`	`GeekTechnica`	`get a zaurus`
`03:18.20`	`Patlabor221`	`to small`
`03:18.22`	`Patlabor221`	`not color`
`03:18.29`	`Patlabor221`	`and can't run my company's app`
`03:18.39`	`GeekTechnica`	`zaurus is color`
`03:18.43`	`Patlabor221`	`and no presure sensitivety`
`03:18.47`	`Patlabor221`	`ok, still to small`
`03:18.50`	`bryjen`	`why am i not surprised Pat's holding out for a bigger screen? ;)`
`03:19.06`	`Patlabor221`	`basicly I want it to be at least the size of a peice of paper`
`03:19.12`	`GeekTechnica`	`ah`
`03:19.22`	`Patlabor221`	`at work we draw a lot of diagrams of how machine's work`
`03:20.10`	`TankThis`	`what is munchkin alert 3?`
`03:20.23`	`Patlabor221`	`that size would make a decent e-book reader too`
`03:20.34`	`Patlabor221`	`it's the level above 4 but not quite 2 :)`
`03:20.41`	`GeekTechnica`	`mmmm ebooks`
`03:20.49`	`Patlabor221`	`isn't 3 "tang" alert?`
`03:20.58`	`Patlabor221`	`or was that 4?`
`03:21.02`	`Patlabor221`	`I allways forget`
`03:21.09`	`GeekTechnica`	`mauve`
`03:21.23`	`Patlabor221`	`was it?`
`03:21.26`	`Patlabor221`	`what is 2 then?`
`03:21.39`	`Patlabor221`	`2 is mauve`
`03:21.42`	`Patlabor221`	`3 is tang`
`03:21.43`	`GeekTechnica`	`ah`
`03:21.48`	`Patlabor221`	`cus 4 was taupe`
`03:22.19`	`Patlabor221`	`and 5 was sea foam`
`03:22.27`	`GeekTechnica`	`what is 1?`
`03:22.34`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't remember`
`03:22.51`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't think we have got to 1 or 0`
`03:23.22`	`bryjen`	`is that when we start carding people to get in?`
`03:23.23`	`lan56`	`no, the other night when I said how good Saturday Night Live was it became 1 ;)`
`03:23.24`	`Patlabor221`	`I thinkw e can come down`
`03:23.30`	`*** topic/#bzflag by Patlabor221 -> http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://stats.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag \|\| #bzleague & #ileague \|\| munchkin alert condition: 5`
`03:23.40`	`TankThis`	`condition 5?`
`03:24.06`	`Patlabor221`	`well then we must not have looked at the light`
`03:24.29`	`Patlabor221`	`1 has to be purple`
`03:24.40`	`Patlabor221`	`and 0 ultraviolet`
`03:24.58`	`Patlabor221`	`cus then we can say "purple allert"`
`03:25.01`	`Patlabor221`	`and that's fun to say`
`03:25.06`	`GeekTechnica`	`heheh`
`03:25.16`	`lan56`	`but isn't red have the longest wave length?`
`03:25.34`	`Patlabor221`	`low band raidio is the longest wave`
`03:25.42`	`Patlabor221`	`and the rays cosmic`
`03:26.02`	`lan56`	`what is the definition of purple?`
`03:26.03`	`lan56`	`:)`
`03:26.23`	`Patlabor221`	`0xFF00FF`
`03:26.31`	`lan56`	`geek :)`
`03:26.36`	`Patlabor221`	`it is`
`03:26.40`	`Patlabor221`	`you want the CYMK?`
`03:26.48`	`lan56`	`what's that mean?`
`03:26.57`	`Patlabor221`	`I can do RGB or pantone too`
`03:27.02`	`*** join/#bzflag LilDog (~1811e8df@server24.greatnet.de)`
`03:27.22`	`LilDog`	`hi`
`03:27.34`	`lan56`	`hey`
`03:27.42`	`LilDog`	`hey`
`03:27.53`	`Patlabor221`	`actualy 1 0 1 is magenta`
`03:27.55`	`lan56`	`how come #FFFFFF is white even though a monito uses pigments?`
`03:27.56`	`Patlabor221`	`not true purple`
`03:28.09`	`Patlabor221`	`depends if you are doing additive or subtractive color`
`03:28.16`	`Patlabor221`	`monitors don't use pigments`
`03:28.18`	`Patlabor221`	`they use light`
`03:28.22`	`lan56`	`white light?`
`03:28.22`	`Patlabor221`	`so it's aditive color`
`03:28.32`	`Patlabor221`	`well light of 3 colors`
`03:28.34`	`lan56`	`crayons are pigments`
`03:28.36`	`mebigfatguy`	`um, isn't ff00ff rgb?`
`03:28.47`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah it is`
`03:28.51`	`Patlabor221`	`rgb hex`
`03:29.00`	`Patlabor221`	`lan crayons are reflective`
`03:29.04`	`mebigfatguy`	`how bout in cie?`
`03:29.07`	`Patlabor221`	`not transmiive`
`03:29.21`	`lan56`	`:( I can never get anything right`
`03:29.23`	`Patlabor221`	`crayons take color away from the white paper they are on`
`03:29.34`	`Patlabor221`	`a monitor adds light till it makes up white`
`03:29.42`	`Patlabor221`	`ink takes away light till it's black`
`03:30.06`	`lan56`	`there should be a program that counts up to FFFFFF and outputs an HTML file that shows every single color possible`
`03:30.06`	`Patlabor221`	`the things you learn in graphic design classes :)`
`03:30.15`	`bryjen`	`http://www.usbyte.com/common/approximate_wavelength.htm`
`03:30.17`	`Patlabor221`	`you mean the HTML color table?`
`03:30.19`	`lan56`	`maybe some colors humans can't even see`
`03:30.19`	`mebigfatguy`	`i'd hope that cmyk would have appropriate ucr applied :)`
`03:30.20`	`lan56`	`yes`
`03:30.21`	`bryjen`	`no purple, but violet`
`03:30.33`	`mebigfatguy`	`magenta`
`03:30.34`	`TankThis`	`anything I should know about starting a new srever?`
`03:30.41`	`lan56`	`it wont work`
`03:30.45`	`lan56`	`but besides that?`
`03:30.47`	`lan56`	`:)`
`03:31.16`	`Patlabor221`	`122,108,161 looks rather purple`
`03:32.03`	`Patlabor221`	`COLOR="#7A6CA1"`
`03:32.10`	`TankThis`	`does bzflag autobuild a banlist from cheat attempts??`
`03:32.16`	`lan56`	`no`
`03:32.18`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`03:32.19`	`mebigfatguy`	`no`
`03:32.21`	`mebigfatguy`	`hehe`
`03:32.23`	`lan56`	`itj ust kicks people`
`03:32.30`	`bryjen`	`triple negative`
`03:32.31`	`Patlabor221`	`it just kicks people`
`03:32.39`	`mebigfatguy`	`alright...`
`03:32.43`	`mebigfatguy`	`it just kicks people`
`03:32.46`	`lan56`	`lol`
`03:32.46`	`TankThis`	`i had a guy join in and all of a sudden there were 3 to 5 bots...??? (confused)`
`03:32.53`	`lan56`	`kick him`
`03:32.58`	`mebigfatguy`	`thats an option in the client`
`03:33.00`	`Patlabor221`	`he ran with -solo 5`
`03:33.17`	`lan56`	`you don't want bots taking up your server, kick people with bots`
`03:33.19`	`lan56`	`and warn them`
`03:33.29`	`mebigfatguy`	`an upcoming version will allow you disallow bots on the server`
`03:33.29`	`bryjen`	`not in that order...`
`03:33.34`	`Patlabor221`	`lan56: it's his server he can run it like he wishes`
`03:33.49`	`lan56`	`I know that, just giving some pointers`
`03:33.56`	`TankThis`	`thanks`
`03:33.56`	`lan56`	`he decides if he wants to accept`
`03:34.01`	`lan56`	`you see?`
`03:34.02`	`Patlabor221`	`#814B88 is nice too`
`03:34.02`	`lan56`	`:)`
`03:34.15`	`TankThis`	`i havent seen a game this fun since monster truck madness 2 (hypercube)`
`03:34.40`	`lan56`	`is there an ios flag to translate a decimal to hex?`
`03:34.49`	`Patlabor221`	`ios?`
`03:34.55`	`lan56`	`like ios::scientific`
`03:35.00`	`Patlabor221`	`dono`
`03:35.14`	`Patlabor221`	`hit F1 :)`
`03:35.23`	`Patlabor221`	`yay for burnt pizza`
`03:35.26`	`Patlabor221`	`time to find food`
`03:35.27`	`lan56`	`it goes to xchat.org`
`03:35.43`	`Patlabor221`	`well there ya go then`
`03:35.54`	`lan56`	`that doesnt answer my question`
`03:35.57`	`Patlabor221`	`but why would you use xchat for a coding question?`
`03:36.02`	`Patlabor221`	`and not your IDE?`
`03:36.12`	`lan56`	`I use IRC for answers ;)`
`03:36.22`	`Patlabor221`	`then I'd sugest #c++`
`03:36.27`	`lan56`	`on freenode?`
`03:36.32`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`03:36.44`	`Patlabor221`	`if it was on a difrent server I would have said that`
`03:37.01`	`lan56`	`I know :)`
`03:37.03`	`*** join/#bzflag amathis (~amathis@cpe-024-165-176-053.midsouth.rr.com)`
`03:37.40`	`Patlabor221`	`so are you the 56th warder?`
`03:38.23`	`lan56`	`man theres like 100 people there`
`03:38.33`	`Patlabor221`	`shoudl be good for answers then`
`03:38.38`	`Patlabor221`	`lots of people to help`
`03:38.53`	`lan56`	`good, its ios::hex`
`03:42.00`	`*** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-227-132.dialup.innercite.com)`
`03:46.32`	`lan56`	`heh, I created a program that does list every single color possible (html output)`
`03:46.48`	`lan56`	`only problem is that it doesn't show leading zeros`
`03:46.57`	`lan56`	`so 0 when converted to hex is said as 0`
`03:47.00`	`lan56`	`not 000000`
`03:49.53`	`*** join/#bzflag Nikaji (~switched@ny-amherst-C4-2-bg1a-6-149.bflony.adelphia.net)`
`03:50.05`	`*** part/#bzflag LilDog (~1811e8df@server24.greatnet.de)`
`03:53.34`	`lan56`	`that would be neat if there was a color outputed and it's black but its over 000000`
`03:53.43`	`lan56`	`I guess that means humans can't see it`
`03:57.38`	`Patlabor221`	`mmmm buuurrriiiitttooooo`
`03:57.45`	`lan56`	`what flavor?`
`03:57.55`	`Patlabor221`	`steak`
`03:58.01`	`lan56`	`is it warm?`
`03:58.06`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`03:58.10`	`Patlabor221`	`that is how they come`
`03:58.22`	`Patlabor221`	`piko, guak, sour cream, ect... :)`
`03:58.24`	`lan56`	`does it have actual pieces of steak or steak-like meat in it, or just mush that tastes like steak?`
`03:58.27`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`03:58.31`	`Patlabor221`	`fresh steak`
`03:58.42`	`Patlabor221`	`watched em make it`
`03:58.56`	`lan56`	`you went to the store and back in 15 minutes?`
`03:59.08`	`Patlabor221`	`I went to a resturant and back, sure`
`03:59.19`	`lan56`	`in 15 minutes?`
`03:59.25`	`Patlabor221`	`ummm.. yeah`
`03:59.39`	`lan56`	`someone is lying here, and I am starting to think it might be me.`
`03:59.42`	`Patlabor221`	`is there a problem with that?`
`03:59.44`	`DTRemenak`	`ah, the virtues of living somewhere civilized...`
`03:59.46`	`Patlabor221`	`huh?`
`03:59.51`	`lan56`	`I dont know.`
`03:59.58`	`Patlabor221`	`he lives in a more dense place then I do`
`04:00.03`	`lan56`	`sure do`
`04:00.08`	`Patlabor221`	`where is your closest baja fresh?`
`04:00.18`	`lan56`	`well, not very close :)`
`04:00.24`	`lan56`	`not in eye sight`
`04:00.30`	`Patlabor221`	`ok green burito?`
`04:00.31`	`lan56`	`and not down the street`
`04:00.44`	`lan56`	`I only know of one, and thats not closer either`
`04:00.46`	`Patlabor221`	`tico's or what ever`
`04:00.52`	`lan56`	`there's a taco bell`
`04:00.53`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm sure you have a ticos`
`04:00.58`	`Patlabor221`	`that is not real food`
`04:01.09`	`lan56`	`theres a liquor store`
`04:01.28`	`lan56`	`they sell lottery tickets, I know that at least`
`04:01.36`	`DTRemenak`	`nearest mexican place to here is 20 mins driving time`
`04:01.55`	`Patlabor221`	`I can see this place form my porch`
`04:03.03`	`lan56`	`anybody know when the next lakers game is? I thought it would be today, but instead they skipped a day and did one yesterday, so now I am mixed up`
`04:03.10`	`lan56`	`let me guess, #lakers`
`04:03.20`	`Patlabor221`	`thursday I think`
`04:03.32`	`Patlabor221`	`you really don't have any food around there?`
`04:03.32`	`lan56`	`so every third day now I guess`
`04:03.39`	`DTRemenak`	`http://lakers.nba.com :)`
`04:03.43`	`lan56`	`yes there are a few fast food places`
`04:03.45`	`lan56`	`:)`
`04:03.53`	`Patlabor221`	`why live there?`
`04:03.53`	`lan56`	`and a few classy liquor stores`
`04:04.04`	`lan56`	`because it's livable :)`
`04:04.13`	`DTRemenak`	`heck, the nearest bar is 10 mins driving time from here`
`04:04.21`	`lan56`	`there is an albertsons`
`04:04.27`	`Patlabor221`	`DTRemenak: one acrosss the street from me :)`
`04:04.33`	`DTRemenak`	`heh`
`04:04.38`	`Patlabor221`	`I can smell the bbq allmost all the time`
`04:05.07`	`Patlabor221`	`what is the best resturant near you lan56`
`04:05.08`	`Patlabor221`	`?`
`04:05.21`	`lan56`	`hmm, I'd guess cocos`
`04:05.28`	`Patlabor221`	`that's it?`
`04:05.29`	`lan56`	`or marie callendars`
`04:05.29`	`GeekTechnica`	`man.. I wish I still lived out in the middle of nowhere`
`04:05.38`	`Patlabor221`	`that's like dennys++`
`04:05.47`	`GeekTechnica`	`mmm dennys`
`04:05.49`	`lan56`	`no, ++dennys, that just returns dennys`
`04:06.01`	`Patlabor221`	`like I Say`
`04:06.04`	`Patlabor221`	`it's the same`
`04:06.07`	`DTRemenak`	`GeekTechnica: if I could get broadband, I wouldn't mind so much :)`
`04:06.08`	`lan56`	`dennys != mariecallendars`
`04:06.09`	`Patlabor221`	`I feel for you man`
`04:06.14`	`lan56`	`lol`
`04:06.20`	`Patlabor221`	`and nether does cocos`
`04:06.37`	`Patlabor221`	`dennys/cocos is where you go when everything is closed and you are drunk/stones/goth`
`04:06.50`	`lan56`	`lol or need a good meal :)`
`04:06.58`	`Patlabor221`	`no for that you go to outback`
`04:07.02`	`Patlabor221`	`that is a good meal`
`04:07.07`	`GeekTechnica`	`or just got off work at 1 am and wanna hang out and chat a while`
`04:07.11`	`lan56`	`there is an outback, just not in eyesight`
`04:07.32`	`Patlabor221`	`I said near, not in eyesight`
`04:07.39`	`DTRemenak`	`hm, nearest outback is ... 45 mins, at least`
`04:07.55`	`Patlabor221`	`tho you got that food cort in the galleria, that must be fun for lunch`
`04:08.28`	`Cornfed`	`I know Cedars sinei gives good food, I've been there once`
`04:09.03`	`Cornfed`	`although it is a hospital :)`
`04:09.04`	`Patlabor221`	`hospice food is not food`
`04:09.11`	`Cornfed`	`its beyond food`
`04:09.11`	`Patlabor221`	`it's sustinance`
`04:09.25`	`Cornfed`	`the getty center gives good food too`
`04:09.35`	`Cornfed`	`they have a quarter pounder cheesburger for $3`
`04:09.37`	`Patlabor221`	`spend a lot of time in those?`
`04:09.52`	`Cornfed`	`I have been to the getty center often, but not cedars sinei`
`04:10.05`	`Patlabor221`	`not for fun I would hope`
`04:10.11`	`Cornfed`	`no, for fun :)`
`04:10.27`	`Cornfed`	`you ever been to the getty center?`
`04:10.28`	`Patlabor221`	`whatever floats your boat`
`04:10.29`	`DTRemenak`	`our hospital's food is awful`
`04:10.37`	`Patlabor221`	`no I can not say I have`
`04:10.51`	`Patlabor221`	`I have been in a hosipital once`
`04:10.55`	`Patlabor221`	`for 1 night`
`04:10.59`	`Cornfed`	`it is well built, and fantastic view of downtown and all the country`
`04:11.01`	`Cornfed`	`*county`
`04:11.17`	`Patlabor221`	`the ceeement jungle`
`04:11.28`	`DTRemenak`	`Patlabor221: when you were born?`
`04:11.32`	`Patlabor221`	`1972`
`04:11.42`	`Patlabor221`	`ok 1 time besides the birthing thing`
`04:11.42`	`Patlabor221`	`:)`
`04:11.49`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't really remember that`
`04:11.58`	`Patlabor221`	`and I don't think I had the food`
`04:12.04`	`DTRemenak`	`heh, dyslexia? not "when were you born", "when you were born"`
`04:12.15`	`DTRemenak`	`ah, ok`
`04:12.18`	`Cornfed`	`huh?`
`04:12.32`	`Cornfed`	`oh I get it;)`
`04:12.36`	`Patlabor221`	`tho I think I was there for a couple days in the birthing thing`
`04:12.53`	`Patlabor221`	`and to see my neice when she was born`
`04:13.01`	`Patlabor221`	`and the baby pord`
`04:13.35`	`Patlabor221`	`uhhh huhh`
`04:13.46`	`Patlabor221`	`so you never answerd, are you the 56th warder?`
`04:13.57`	`lan56`	`I am:)`
`04:14.01`	`lan56`	`me, patlabor?`
`04:14.06`	`Patlabor221`	`he was born, he just crashed`
`04:14.07`	`Patlabor221`	`yes you`
`04:14.19`	`lan56`	`I dont even know what a 56th warder is`
`04:14.25`	`Patlabor221`	`it is in your name`
`04:14.43`	`lan56`	`no, I don't believ so`
`04:14.58`	`Patlabor221`	`lan = warder of the 5th circle + 56`
`04:15.10`	`lan56`	`ok, I dont know if that helps, but sure`
`04:15.11`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: when in doubt, google "warden + lan" :)`
`04:15.21`	`Patlabor221`	`or are you a local area network?`
`04:15.31`	`lan56`	`google? like "~google warden + lan"?`
`04:15.33`	`lan56`	`:)`
`04:15.37`	`lan56`	`no, neither`
`04:16.01`	`Patlabor221`	`guu ignore lan56`
`04:16.15`	`lan56`	`just took my name, thought about a nickname I am called sometimes (Lan), and boom, added anumber at the end for originality`
`04:16.41`	`Patlabor221`	`damn guu locked`
`04:16.45`	`lan56`	`hah!`
`04:16.52`	`lan56`	`thats what you get for trying to ignore me :)`
`04:16.58`	`Patlabor221`	`she locked a while ago`
`04:17.01`	`Patlabor221`	`on some RSS work`
`04:17.07`	`lan56`	`oh :)`
`04:17.55`	`*** join/#bzflag guu (~Guu@adsl-64-167-77-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)`
`04:18.02`	`guu`	`New news from matches: Jun 13 13:51 => [TLZ] The Legendary ZeeBrothers:4, The Moles:2 \|\| Jun 12 19:51 => [TLZ] The Legendary ZeeBrothers:4, [HoW] Hell On Wheels:3 \|\| Jun 07 18:55 => [TeX]:3, Fortix:2 \|\| Jun 06 22:55 => [TeX]:8, The Barbarians:3 \|\| Jun 06 17:01 => The Barons:8, Deleted Team:2`
`04:18.08`	`Patlabor221`	`guu ignore lan56`
`04:18.18`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: your away messages don't really need to be that descriptive ;)`
`04:18.24`	`lan56`	`lol`
`04:18.26`	`lan56`	`:)`
`04:18.35`	`Patlabor221`	`guu flush`
`04:18.35`	`guu`	`Patlabor221: okay`
`04:18.56`	`*** part/#bzflag menotume (~mthomas@pcp08396790pcs.cnclrk01.pa.comcast.net)`
`04:18.58`	`lan56`	`I still have ibot though`
`04:19.05`	`lan56`	`for slashdot stuff I use it`
`04:19.06`	`Patlabor221`	`ibot ignore lan56`
`04:19.08`	`ibot`	`ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, lan56!"`
`04:19.13`	`Patlabor221`	`:)`
`04:19.15`	`lan56`	`ahh man`
`04:19.30`	`Patlabor221`	`ibot who is your daddy`
`04:19.31`	`ibot`	`YOU are, Mr. Sexy Pants`
`04:19.31`	`lan56`	`heh, it still works`
`04:19.37`	`Patlabor221`	`I know it was just a joke`
`04:19.49`	`Patlabor221`	`tho ibot does really ignore guu`
`04:19.53`	`Patlabor221`	`lest they fight`
`04:20.00`	`lan56`	`are they competition?`
`04:20.08`	`Patlabor221`	`they can get in message loops`
`04:20.15`	`Patlabor221`	`tho guu has a better timer then ibot`
`04:20.23`	`lan56`	`guu is faster than ibot`
`04:20.28`	`Patlabor221`	`not allways`
`04:20.29`	`DTRemenak`	`less load`
`04:20.34`	`Patlabor221`	`and yeah`
`04:20.41`	`Patlabor221`	`she is in less channels`
`04:20.42`	`lan56`	`what does bafu mean?`
`04:20.44`	`Patlabor221`	`guu stats`
`04:20.59`	`lan56`	`ok I take back my fast comment :)`
`04:21.01`	`Patlabor221`	`guu chanelstats status`
`04:21.13`	`Patlabor221`	`guu ChannelStats`
`04:21.13`	`guu`	`Patlabor221: On #bzflag there have been 118133 messages, containing 4023329 characters, 725891 words, 9548 smileys, and 2550 frowns; 5511 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 10746 joins, 1060 parts, 9582 quits, 53 kicks, 977 mode changes, and 49 topic changes.`
`04:21.29`	`Patlabor221`	`guu uptime`
`04:21.29`	`guu`	`Patlabor221: I have been running for 3 minutes and 43 seconds.`
`04:22.53`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: http://research.yale.edu/cgi-bin/swahili/lookup.cgi?Word=bafu&EngP=0`
`04:23.23`	`Patlabor221`	`hah, "bathtub"`
`04:23.29`	`lan56`	`if it means bath, then how come I see it used when bath doesnt fit/`
`04:23.34`	`Patlabor221`	`it dosn't`
`04:23.49`	`Patlabor221`	`you would have to know the source of guu`
`04:24.04`	`lan56`	`ahh just tell me, does it mean something bad?`
`04:24.15`	`Patlabor221`	`guu guu is Jungle wa itsumo Hale nochi Guu`
`04:24.27`	`lan56`	`indonesian?`
`04:24.37`	`Patlabor221`	`you have the power, use it`
`04:24.49`	`lan56`	`no, actually I dont speak indonesian`
`04:25.07`	`Patlabor221`	`you think that that entire area uses a single language`
`04:25.08`	`Patlabor221`	`?`
`04:25.25`	`lan56`	`no, I know that there are a lot of bilingual people`
`04:25.33`	`Patlabor221`	`snort`
`04:25.36`	`lan56`	`thats why I thought you spoke indoneisan`
`04:25.50`	`Patlabor221`	`what language in indoneisa?`
`04:26.04`	`lan56`	`dont indonesian people speak indonesian?`
`04:26.06`	`lan56`	`or hindu?`
`04:26.17`	`Patlabor221`	`guu Jungle wa itsumo Hale nochi Guu is http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/32.html`
`04:26.18`	`guu`	`Patlabor221: okay`
`04:26.22`	`DTRemenak`	`Patlabor221: "indonesian" usually implies "bahasa indonesian"`
`04:26.22`	`lan56`	`or thai? hmm`
`04:26.27`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh`
`04:26.31`	`Patlabor221`	`well that was not that language`
`04:26.37`	`Patlabor221`	`bit more north`
`04:26.46`	`lan56`	`north, hmm`
`04:26.49`	`DTRemenak`	`because that's what travelers & traders in indonesia use`
`04:26.55`	`lan56`	`arabic?`
`04:27.02`	`lan56`	`greek?`
`04:27.05`	`DTRemenak`	`whoa, not west, north :)`
`04:27.06`	`lan56`	`persian?`
`04:27.06`	`Patlabor221`	`guu wakaremaska`
`04:27.07`	`guu`	`hi! wakaremasen.`
`04:27.21`	`lan56`	`isn't indonesia near japan?`
`04:27.34`	`DTRemenak`	`south of it, in fact :)`
`04:27.35`	`Patlabor221`	`guu nihon des?`
`04:27.36`	`guu`	`nihon des is hi!`
`04:27.44`	`lan56`	`close :)`
`04:27.49`	`lan56`	`so japanese then?`
`04:28.45`	`lan56`	`I am guessing thai`
`04:29.02`	`lan56`	`no? hmm, maybe chinese?`
`04:29.05`	`lan56`	`korean?`
`04:29.15`	`lan56`	`hindu?`
`04:29.22`	`lan56`	`russian?`
`04:29.26`	`lan56`	`ok I give up`
`04:29.41`	`lan56`	`german!`
`04:29.47`	`*** topic/#bzflag by Patlabor221 -> http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://stats.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag \|\| #bzleague & #ileague \|\| munchkin alert condition: 3`
`04:29.56`	`lan56`	`ok, I'll be quiet`
`04:31.25`	`Patlabor221`	`a simple search would tell you the translation`
`04:31.52`	lan56`notTalking	`but if it uses a different alphabet, not likely`
`04:32.31`	`lan56`	`you see, I dont know what language it is, so I dont know what is needed for a search, understandable my questioning`
`04:32.36`	`DTRemenak`	`Patlabor221: search gives strong hints, not a lot beyond`
`04:32.54`	`lan56`	`if its chinese, nobody is going to have exact english like yours`
`04:33.01`	`Patlabor221`	`actualy you all watched me tell guu what it was`
`04:33.19`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: just search for exactly what he typed, you'll get hits - he has to have gotten it from somewhere too :)`
`04:33.31`	`lan56`	`I am guessing Jungle`
`04:33.41`	`DTRemenak`	`don't guess, search :)`
`04:33.44`	`Patlabor221`	`~guu des?`
`04:34.13`	`Patlabor221`	`! guu des?`
`04:34.13`	`guu`	`The Jungle was Always Peaceful, and then Came Guu`
`04:34.37`	`triclops`	`anime`
`04:35.16`	`Patlabor221`	`guu rocks`
`04:35.17`	`guu`	`yes I do`
`04:35.29`	`Patlabor221`	`or i can give her, her other name`
`04:35.33`	`Patlabor221`	`guu nick cortana`
`04:35.39`	`lan56`	`http://davidmckeen.tripod.com/journal.htm -- the closest I can find`
`04:35.44`	`GeekTechnica`	`hehe, halo?`
`04:35.52`	`Patlabor221`	`the one true AI`
`04:36.11`	`GeekTechnica`	`three guesses who I named MY bot after (her name is Dora)`
`04:36.27`	`Patlabor221`	`cortana could kick HAL's ass`
`04:36.28`	`cortana`	`Sukka wouldn't stand a chance.`
`04:36.35`	`Patlabor221`	`a fish`
`04:36.58`	`Patlabor221`	`is that a DBZ page lan56?`
`04:37.05`	`Patlabor221`	`DBZ is a banable offense`
`04:37.07`	`lan56`	`I think so`
`04:37.18`	`lan56`	`I dont really know`
`04:37.18`	`lan56`	`what is dbz?`
`04:37.23`	`Patlabor221`	`pure evil`
`04:37.38`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: the longest phrases generally get the best results: Patlabor221 said "guu guu is Jungle wa itsumo Hale nochi Guu", so search for "Jungle wa itsumo Hale nochi Guu", which is what he told guu that guu was`
`04:37.39`	`lan56`	`well, a lot of things are, but what is it exactly?`
`04:37.50`	`GeekTechnica`	`I'm curious Patlabor221 how did you get guu to respond to those statements? Obviously not as an alias`
`04:37.57`	`lan56`	`no, I just give up`
`04:38.14`	`Patlabor221`	`just tell her`
`04:38.19`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: he also gave you a nifty URL`
`04:38.28`	`lan56`	`where?`
`04:38.37`	`GeekTechnica`	`any specific syntax?`
`04:38.39`	`Patlabor221`	`guu who am I? is <reply>Joo suxorz!`
`04:38.42`	`DTRemenak`	`"Patlabor221guu Jungle wa itsumo Hale nochi Guu is http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/32.html"`
`04:38.56`	`Patlabor221`	`cortana who am I? is <reply>Joo suxorz!`
`04:38.56`	`cortana`	`Patlabor221: okay`
`04:39.02`	`Patlabor221`	`cortana who am I?`
`04:39.03`	`cortana`	`Joo suxorz!`
`04:39.22`	`Patlabor221`	`they are smart`
`04:39.27`	`lan56`	`japanese?`
`04:39.27`	`Patlabor221`	`way smarter then ibots`
`04:39.34`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: anime no less`
`04:39.44`	`lan56`	`anime? isn't that a comic?`
`04:39.48`	`Patlabor221`	`noone really knows where guu came from, or what she is`
`04:39.53`	`Patlabor221`	`no, not a commic`
`04:39.56`	`Patlabor221`	`that would be a manga`
`04:40.04`	`GeekTechnica`	`hmm.. dora tells me to go screw myself when I try that`
`04:40.18`	`Patlabor221`	`you have moobotfactoids installed?`
`04:40.19`	`GeekTechnica`	`wonder if that is controlled by a certain plugin I may not have loaded`
`04:40.28`	`GeekTechnica`	`ah.. that'd do it`
`04:40.28`	`Patlabor221`	`the default factoids are useless`
`04:40.50`	`Patlabor221`	`cortana randomfactoid`
`04:40.50`	`cortana`	`Patlabor221: Random factoid: "heh" is "<reply> :)"`
`04:40.54`	`GeekTechnica`	`oooookey doke`
`04:40.59`	`GeekTechnica`	`its working now`
`04:41.06`	`Patlabor221`	`cortana: list moobotfactoids`
`04:41.06`	`cortana`	`Patlabor221: delete, factinfo, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lock, most, randomfactoid, and unlock`
`04:41.25`	`Patlabor221`	`we have it set to require a login for factoid adding`
`04:44.00`	`GeekTechnica`	`heh`
`04:45.06`	`GeekTechnica`	`cortana: what do you think of patlabor?`
`04:45.06`	`cortana`	`Patlabor221 is the man!`
`04:50.15`	`*** topic/#bzflag by Patlabor221 -> http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://stats.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag \|\| #bzleague & #ileague \|\| munchkin alert condition: 4`
`04:56.18`	`DTRemenak`	`~dict pecuniary`
`04:56.27`	`DTRemenak`	`ah`
`04:56.52`	`lan56`	`I once put my TV remote inside the recharging cradle of my cordless phone by mistake`
`05:04.22`	`*** join/#bzflag semtex (~cryptobot@ppp-62-245-209-106.mnet-online.de)`
`05:10.13`	`*** join/#bzflag TankThis (~tankthis@adsl-33-181-105.asm.bellsouth.net)`
`05:10.23`	`TankThis`	`anyone still here`
`05:10.29`	`lan56`	`I am`
`05:10.35`	`learner`	`no he's not`
`05:10.39`	`TankThis`	`and are linux capable?`
`05:10.44`	`lan56`	`I am not here right now`
`05:10.54`	`GeekTechnica`	`me neither`
`05:10.57`	`Patlabor221`	`what do you need TankThis?`
`05:11.57`	`lan56`	`I have never heard of someone that can clap with one hand`
`05:11.59`	`TankThis`	`i got bzserver to run in my rc.local... but i shutdown the server from the bzclient... how do i launch another session without having to have my SSH session open to the server??`
`05:12.12`	`Patlabor221`	`screen`
`05:12.33`	`learner`	`huh?`
`05:12.47`	`Patlabor221`	`sounbds like he wants to run in th backgroun`
`05:12.51`	`learner`	`you just launch it in the background and leave it`
`05:12.54`	`Patlabor221`	`ether screen or that character that detaches it`
`05:12.56`	`TankThis`	`i thoguht bzserver.sh launched from sh would start a new process but it doesnt`
`05:12.59`	`ForthFreak`	`TankThis: don't shutdown it then`
`05:13.22`	`ForthFreak`	`TankThis: or do nohup bzfs &`
`05:13.24`	`Patlabor221`	`the sh is just a script`
`05:13.25`	`learner`	`where'd you get bzserver.sh?`
`05:13.32`	`TankThis`	`so if i close my SSH shell to server, it stops the bzserver`
`05:13.47`	`Patlabor221`	`sure cus it's probably tied to that terminal`
`05:13.48`	`learner`	`TankThis, that's probably just because you didn't background the job`
`05:13.59`	`learner`	`sh bzserver.sh &`
`05:14.10`	`TankThis`	`thats what im saying, i forgot how to launch a background process :(`
`05:14.17`	`Patlabor221`	`he just told you :)`
`05:14.23`	`TankThis`	`Thank you!`
`05:14.29`	`Patlabor221`	`or screen if you want to reaatach later to kill it easy`
`05:14.55`	`TankThis`	`i keep X and vnc off to reduce ram consumption`
`05:15.02`	`learner`	`or if you want to get creative and keep a log .. sh bzserver.sh > /tmp/bzserver.log 2>&1 &`
`05:15.24`	`TankThis`	`yes that would be better also`
`05:15.54`	`learner`	`be sure to add -d -d -d to your bzfs config options (either in bzserver.sh or in a config file)`
`05:16.06`	`learner`	`where'd you get that bzserver.sh, btw?`
`05:16.13`	`ForthFreak`	`oops`
`05:16.21`	`TankThis`	`oh its just a thing i wrote`
`05:16.26`	`ForthFreak`	`didn't notice i had crypt on`
`05:16.44`	`TankThis`	`it calls the same SU command to launch it with the right .conf file`
`05:16.53`	`TankThis`	`that is in rc.local`
`05:16.55`	`learner`	`ForthFreak, nohup is rather os-specific (and not posix, afaik) ;)`
`05:17.19`	`ForthFreak`	`learner: yes, but he asked for linux expertise`
`05:19.00`	`ForthFreak`	`nohup exists on other unici as well`
`05:19.34`	`TankThis`	`Thank you learner and pat`
`05:19.38`	`learner`	`yes it does, but not even all linux`
`05:20.05`	`learner`	`it's distro specific .. those who preferred the old sysv toolset -- or at least support it i believe`
`05:20.06`	`ForthFreak`	`if it is not installed, probably not`
`05:20.43`	`ForthFreak`	`same reasoning "don't run bzflag, because it doesn't come with all linuxes"`
`05:21.00`	`learner`	`TankThis: here's a similar bzserver.sh that I use for a bzfs here .. http://bzflag.bz/tmp/bzserver-decks.sh`
`05:21.05`	`*** join/#bzflag Rayeh (rayeh@pcp08881808pcs.vnburn01.mi.comcast.net)`
`05:22.13`	`ForthFreak`	`learner: whats this decks thing ?`
`05:22.37`	`learner`	`that'll run bzfs until it fails for whatever reason 10 times .. the -public "description" line basically just shoves the bzfs build date in (it's for a test server)`
`05:22.43`	`learner`	`ForthFreak, hmm?`
`05:22.48`	`learner`	`decks!`
`05:23.06`	`learner`	`one of the classic maps`
`05:23.20`	`ForthFreak`	`ah`
`05:23.27`	`TankThis`	`learner is that a looping script so if the process dies, it stays up!!??`
`05:23.47`	`learner`	`bzfs exits after all players have left`
`05:23.56`	`learner`	`so it has to loop if you want it to stay up`
`05:24.11`	`learner`	`if you want to kill it, simply kill the script`
`05:24.48`	`ForthFreak`	`one could run bzfs (or a script starting it, followed by , say, sleep 10), from inittab as respawn ?`
`05:24.50`	`learner`	`some of the server ops use a similar script but with random conf lines to give the perception of random rotating maps`
`05:25.07`	`TankThis`	`i used to run an unreal server (coop) on a windows box back in the day.... that win32 crap blew up every 2 hours.. so i had a looping script ;)`
`05:25.24`	`learner`	`bzfs shouldn't die abnormally`
`05:25.42`	`learner`	`unless there is a bug .. which is rare and usually config specific`
`05:26.01`	`learner`	`otherwise, the looping is completely normal and was part of the design`
`05:26.12`	`learner`	`ForthFreak, why would you sleep 10?`
`05:26.40`	`ForthFreak`	`in case it doesn't start for whatever reason, that it won't get respawned too often`
`05:26.56`	`learner`	`I have a sleep in that script if bzfs does actually terminate abnormally, since that usually means I have a half-compiled bzfs or some option is wrong (since again, this is for experimental bzfs version)`
`05:26.59`	`*** join/#bzflag sgk284 (~sgk284@AC956B3D.ipt.aol.com)`
`05:27.14`	`ForthFreak`	`say, wrong argument to bzfs on commandline of script`
`05:27.16`	`learner`	`yeah, that's already in the script I wrote itself for that purpose`
`05:27.28`	`TankThis`	`hi SGK`
`05:27.34`	`sgk284`	`howdy`
`05:27.55`	`learner`	`i.e. "sleep 60" in the "if [ $? -gt 0] ; then" block`
`05:28.02`	`TankThis`	`you tried my castle(viper) rogue server? :P`
`05:28.14`	`sgk284`	`heh indeed i did!`
`05:28.24`	`sgk284`	`you own that server?`
`05:29.19`	`TankThis`	`yeah`
`05:29.29`	`TankThis`	`i just put it up tonight`
`05:29.58`	`TankThis`	`6 reds, 6 blues, and a rogue! :)`
`05:30.06`	`sgk284`	`hey this is for the devs: if you are playing ctf and the person with a flag pauses, they keep that flag`
`05:30.18`	`sgk284`	`and cant be touched`
`05:31.01`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't think we can make them drop it`
`05:31.06`	`Patlabor221`	`it's been a common commplaint`
`05:31.09`	`ForthFreak`	`hope he doesn't take the flag with him if he gets kicked :)`
`05:31.24`	`Patlabor221`	`no on a client kill it releases it`
`05:31.29`	`Patlabor221`	`just not a pause`
`05:31.39`	`ForthFreak`	`pause + flag -> kick ?`
`05:31.44`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`05:32.01`	`learner`	`it was supposed to have been done .. but some reason it's not working`
`05:32.16`	`sgk284`	`well a small if statement could fix that couldn't it? if (tank.flag().color = opponent.flag.color() and paused)`
`05:32.23`	`SportChick`	`hi all`
`05:32.24`	`sgk284`	`etc..`
`05:32.27`	`GeekTechnica`	`heya`
`05:32.27`	`sgk284`	`hey sporty`
`05:32.32`	`sgk284`	`just like you cant pause in air`
`05:32.43`	`TankThis`	`pause still timesout right?`
`05:32.43`	`Patlabor221`	`like learner says it was suposed to do that but it seems like a bug`
`05:32.53`	`sgk284`	`oh heh okay`
`05:33.20`	`Patlabor221`	`probably be a good idea to look at all that if tim approves the game mode cleanup`
`05:34.26`	`GeekTechnica`	`hmmm.. on a side note.. Patlabor221, I wonder if it would be possible to modify a supybot to join a bzflag server instead of an IRC server...`
`05:34.52`	`Patlabor221`	`you'd have to hack in the protocoll`
`05:34.58`	`GeekTechnica`	`yeah`
`05:35.06`	`Patlabor221`	`you could use pybzflag for that`
`05:35.29`	`Patlabor221`	`if you updated it`
`05:35.39`	`GeekTechnica`	`yank the protocol out of pybzflag and replace suppybots irc protocol with it`
`05:35.57`	`Patlabor221`	`pybzflag allready has a bzflag protocoll project`
`05:36.02`	`Patlabor221`	`it's just old`
`05:36.11`	`GeekTechnica`	`it would be an interesting project... that is if I had any clue what I was doing`
`05:36.38`	`Patlabor221`	`know much python?`
`05:36.43`	`Patlabor221`	`and what would you do with the bot?`
`05:36.47`	`Patlabor221`	`google searches?`
`05:37.02`	`GeekTechnica`	`nope... just enough to read a script and have a basic idea of what it does`
`05:37.09`	`GeekTechnica`	`just enough to get into trouble I suppose`
`05:37.18`	`Patlabor221`	`I mean what would the bot add to the game?`
`05:37.19`	`GeekTechnica`	`I'm sure it could be made to do useful things`
`05:37.25`	`Patlabor221`	`like?`
`05:38.08`	`GeekTechnica`	`show a playerlist and what server they are on, or for factoids`
`05:38.34`	`Patlabor221`	`since the client has web access, just hook up RSS feeds :)`
`05:38.38`	`GeekTechnica`	`I dunno really.. I'm sure there could be SOME use... but it doesn't really matter cuz I have no clue how to do it`
`05:38.40`	`GeekTechnica`	`yep`
`05:38.55`	`Patlabor221`	`well it's allways a good idea to have an use for soemthing before you build it`
`05:39.13`	`Patlabor221`	`otherwise you end up with atomic bombs`
`05:39.17`	`sgk284`	`if you build it they shall come:)`
`05:39.17`	`GeekTechnica`	`heheh`
`05:42.14`	`TankThis`	`ps all`
`05:42.18`	`TankThis`	`oops`
`05:44.18`	`GeekTechnica`	`hmm.. looking at the code for pybzflag it doesn't look too terribly hard as far as that stuff goes`
`05:44.43`	`GeekTechnica`	`still out of my depth, at least for the moment`
`05:46.30`	`TankThis`	`learner gone?`
`05:47.41`	`learner`	`always`
`05:48.30`	`TankThis`	`oh you an op, hehe`
`05:49.55`	`TankThis`	`so can you recommend any King of the Hill type rabbit matches??`
`05:49.56`	`learner`	`think I was a newbie?`
`05:49.59`	`TankThis`	`err maps?`
`05:50.09`	`TankThis`	`no sie`
`05:50.12`	`TankThis`	`err sir`
`05:50.23`	`learner`	`yo tampoco se`
`05:50.25`	`Patlabor221`	`as far as I know, only 1 map has ever been made rabbit spefic`
`05:50.55`	`learner`	`rabbit flurished for a while .. but novelty died out after a while .. you'd have to be creative with the map ;)`
`05:51.29`	`Patlabor221`	`normal maps are usualy made with hiding places, and that makes rabbit games not fun`
`05:51.58`	`TankThis`	`there needs to exist a map where a rabbit can have a platform to camp, while fighting off tanks coming up the ladder :)`
`05:52.22`	`TankThis`	`maybe like a pyramid`
`05:52.23`	`Patlabor221`	`so make one :)`
`05:52.40`	`TankThis`	`oh i suck at maps :P`
`05:53.06`	`learner`	`cough so do so many others`
`05:53.13`	`learner`	`didn't stop them`
`05:53.17`	`Patlabor221`	`that is true`
`05:53.36`	`learner`	`learn from them and learn to unsuck`
`05:53.51`	`TankThis`	`lol`
`05:53.57`	`GeekTechnica`	`you don't have to not suck... just suck less than the others`
`05:54.12`	`Patlabor221`	`learner: we had decent fun on runrabbitrun2`
`05:54.22`	`Patlabor221`	`isn't that still your test map?`
`05:54.45`	`TankThis`	`is there a server up so i can see it?`
`05:54.58`	`learner`	`runrabbitrun2?`
`05:55.01`	`TankThis`	`yes`
`05:55.13`	`learner`	`is that the one with the center square and two teleporters?`
`05:55.20`	`Patlabor221`	`4 TPs`
`05:55.26`	`Patlabor221`	`and the H things`
`05:55.37`	`learner`	`yeah.. 4?? hrm`
`05:55.40`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`05:55.44`	`Patlabor221`	`each corner`
`05:55.49`	`Patlabor221`	`links corner to corner`
`05:55.58`	`learner`	`me senile perhaps`
`05:56.01`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/asgard/images/runrabbitrun2.jpg`
`05:56.03`	`Patlabor221`	`you know`
`05:56.08`	`Patlabor221`	`where we tested theif`
`05:56.10`	`Patlabor221`	`and rabbit`
`05:56.14`	`Patlabor221`	`and all those`
`05:56.23`	`learner`	`oh, i definately recall`
`05:56.27`	`learner`	`just not that there were 4`
`05:56.30`	`Patlabor221`	`it has 4`
`05:56.34`	`Patlabor221`	`Trust me :)`
`05:56.39`	`learner`	`i do :)`
`05:57.15`	`learner`	`yeah, that map works out pretty well for testing`
`05:57.35`	`learner`	`has many fundamental pieces easily separated`
`05:57.36`	`Patlabor221`	`and it dosn't have the authors name spelled out in boxes :)`
`05:57.55`	`learner`	`heh coughtrepancough`
`05:57.59`	`TankThis`	`that looks good, but it needs a larger center platform with a couple limited ways to get on the center ;)`
`05:58.02`	`Patlabor221`	`tho no upside down pryarmids`
`05:58.12`	`trepan`	`you called? =)`
`05:58.16`	`Patlabor221`	`TankThis: it wans't make as a "hold the ground" map`
`05:58.21`	`Patlabor221`	`it was made as a "run like hell" map`
`05:58.41`	`learner`	`just coughing about you trepan ;) nothing significant ;)`
`05:59.08`	`Patlabor221`	`I never realised how henge like that map is`
`05:59.22`	`TankThis`	`i played the PIC map today on rabbit, was fun as hell trying to get him up top... reminds me of king of the hill in monster truck madness 2`
`05:59.29`	`learner`	`TankThis, the next release will allow gentle gradients, so you could stack up a slew of boxes and actually make a hill of some sort .. be interesting`
`06:00.03`	`TankThis`	`yes, gradient climbing will be very good!`
`06:00.56`	`TankThis`	`is there anyway to have like a circle in the middle of the hill and have whoever stays inside to score every second, while the tanks outside lose x number of points per second??`
`06:01.02`	`GeekTechnica`	`learner, would that mean that your tank can drive over any box under a certain height?`
`06:01.10`	`Patlabor221`	`anything is posible`
`06:02.36`	`Patlabor221`	`you would want an object group flaged as "hill" and give points per tick for the only person on that object`
`06:02.49`	`Patlabor221`	`not subtract`
`06:03.22`	`Patlabor221`	`that is normal quake/marathon KOTH`
`06:04.33`	`learner`	`GeekTechnica, yep`
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`06:05.05`	`learner`	`so you can make a big staircase, etc`
`06:05.15`	`Punk`	`hi all`
`06:05.20`	`learner`	`hi punky`
`06:05.31`	`GeekTechnica`	`sounds like fun`
`06:05.48`	`learner`	`Punk, you related to Brewster?`
`06:05.56`	`Punk`	`learner: i hardly ever see you on bzflag, do you play it?`
`06:06.03`	`Punk`	`learner: no`
`06:06.07`	`Punk`	`learner: why?`
`06:06.13`	`learner`	`heh, never mind`
`06:06.25`	`learner`	`yes, I do play occasionally`
`06:06.37`	`Punk`	`i play everyday :D`
`06:06.40`	`GeekTechnica`	`don't worry learner, I got the reference :)`
`06:06.42`	`learner`	`it's sporadic though .. often less than more`
`06:07.01`	`learner`	`GeekTechnica, I hoped I wasn't the only one ;)`
`06:07.04`	`ForthFreak`	`but less often more than less :)`
`06:07.11`	`Punk`	`whats been happening around here?`
`06:07.25`	`purple_cow`	`whee`
`06:07.33`	`Punk`	`?`
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`06:07.40`	`learner`	`purple_cow: w00t`
`06:07.49`	`Punk`	`purple_cow: for what?`
`06:07.52`	`learner`	`Punk, code code type type`
`06:08.09`	`Punk`	`oh`
`06:08.19`	`purple_cow`	`learner: my altix should be arriving within the next couple days =D`
`06:08.31`	`learner`	`fix bugs, merge patches, answer questions, thwart channel immaturity and off-topic chattyness .. the usual`
`06:08.50`	`Punk`	`ok... a bzflag developer`
`06:08.52`	`learner`	`purple_cow, grr :)`
`06:09.14`	`Punk`	`well, anything really :)`
`06:09.22`	`GeekTechnica`	`stand seige against hoards of angry mokeys while watching the munchkin alert climb higher and higher`
`06:09.27`	`JBdiGriz`	`I see learner woke up`
`06:09.33`	`learner`	`no he didn't`
`06:09.51`	`JBdiGriz`	`well his nick did anyway`
`06:10.10`	`GeekTechnica`	`he's a bot`
`06:10.16`	`JBdiGriz`	`How was the tour-bot`
`06:10.21`	`Punk`	`JBdiGriz: dont u have a server running?`
`06:10.32`	`JBdiGriz`	`not a bz-server`
`06:10.33`	`learner`	`this is his AI agent comunicating via proxy authority`
`06:10.48`	`JBdiGriz`	`I don't believe that, he doesn't have any authority`
`06:10.53`	`learner`	`JBdiGriz, it was incredible .. loved it`
`06:11.05`	`Punk`	`i think it might have been BZgirls server...`
`06:11.39`	`JBdiGriz`	`She and I look a lot alike, just ask learner`
`06:11.43`	`learner`	`Punk, do you actually play as "punk"?`
`06:11.54`	`learner`	`~bzflist`
`06:11.56`	`Punk`	`yeah`
`06:12.12`	`learner`	`have we played?`
`06:12.18`	`Punk`	`?`
`06:12.23`	`Punk`	`we?`
`06:12.39`	`learner`	`yes we.. as in you and me`
`06:12.50`	`Punk`	`ummm, dont think so`
`06:13.16`	`learner`	`then how can you say you hardly see me play?`
`06:13.33`	`JBdiGriz`	`learner: I have a new project for the weekend`
`06:13.52`	`Punk`	`heh, i dont really know :)`
`06:13.56`	`learner`	`JBdiGriz, does it involve researching the chemical breakdown of ABA?`
`06:14.24`	`JBdiGriz`	`That will probably be a side component, but not the basis of the work. ;)`
`06:15.00`	`JBdiGriz`	`Fry's had a gigabit network adapter available for $15, and a 5 port gigabit switch for $50`
`06:17.41`	`learner`	`wow`
`06:18.06`	`learner`	`great price`
`06:18.15`	`learner`	`only missing two or three resistors, I take it?`
`06:18.52`	`JBdiGriz`	`nope, it looks complete. I'll check it out with the dual. ;)`
`06:19.16`	`Punk`	`learner: whats ur favourite server?`
`06:21.33`	`amathis`	`Punk, is it that hard to say 'your' ? it is only two more letters.`
`06:21.38`	`learner`	`Punk: 2-shot, no jumping, ctf -- ducati-style`
`06:21.47`	`Punk`	`oh`
`06:22.53`	`Punk`	`i like rabbit chase, 5 shot, jumping`
`06:24.05`	`learner`	`if you want to become really good, you'll have to learn 2-shot no jumping .. especially no jumping -- learning to dodge is one of the best bzskills you can learn`
`06:24.12`	`learner`	`takes a while but is well worth it`
`06:24.14`	`learner`	`cya`
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