irclog2html for #bzflag on 20040607

`00:01.40`	`SportChick`	`~seen Patlabor221`
`00:01.42`	`ibot`	`patlabor221 <~JeffM@adsl-64-167-77-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 22h 48m 5s ago, saying: 'heh'.`
`00:28.12`	`*** part/#bzflag shorty114 (~robin@evrtwa1-ar3-4-65-157-053.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net)`
`00:28.51`	`*** join/#bzflag BZFlag8368 (www-data@c-24-1-104-25.client.comcast.net)`
`00:29.17`	`BZFlag8368`	`how do i update an outdate game in xandros`
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`00:31.16`	`*** join/#bzflag _bubbles_ (~nadic666@Toronto-HSE-ppp3940717.sympatico.ca)`
`00:31.42`	`*** part/#bzflag ppmbx (~cmredmon@rhgh00132.res.utk.edu)`
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`00:54.38`	`SportChick`	`I just made a bzflag page! :)`
`00:55.09`	`blast007`	`cool :)`
`00:55.15`	`SportChick`	`http://www.kirkanddonna.com/donna/BZFlag.htm`
`01:01.20`	`*** join/#bzflag lan56 (lan56@dialup-4.232.21.80.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net)`
`01:01.49`	`lan56`	`hello`
`01:02.19`	`blast007`	`hi`
`01:02.40`	`lan56`	`hey blast007`
`01:09.46`	`*** part/#bzflag smacnay (~smacnay@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3567482.sympatico.ca)`
`01:15.04`	`lan56`	`heh, this made me laugh awfuly hard: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/miscellaneous.html`
`01:15.20`	`lan56`	`jargon file, miscelaneous section of general appearnce of hackers`
`01:16.15`	`triclops`	`lan56: that is truly a miscellaneous collection of ideas`
`01:17.06`	`lan56`	`well, whatever it is, it's funny`
`01:17.21`	`triclops`	`yes`
`01:23.51`	`*** join/#bzflag doughecka (~rooot@doughecka.registered)`
`02:34.21`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o MrApathyCream] by ChanServ`
`02:37.18`	`triclops`	`MrApathyCream: have you had a look at http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cbro903/bzflag/FinalDesign.html ?`
`02:43.30`	`*** join/#bzflag BZFlag6461 (www-data@c-24-1-104-25.client.comcast.net)`
`02:44.19`	`BZFlag6461`	`can somebody explain how to upgrade in xandros linux?`
`02:44.37`	`lan56`	`upgrade the kernel?`
`02:44.54`	`BZFlag6461`	`bz flag`
`02:45.11`	`lan56`	`redownload it, and reinstall`
`02:45.11`	`BZFlag6461`	`it says its an older version to please upgrade`
`02:45.29`	`lan56`	`darn, never thought that the timebombboom() works`
`02:45.43`	`lan56`	`well, just get the latest version, 1.10.6 I think, and reinstall`
`02:46.13`	`BZFlag6461`	`how do you reinstall? is there an exe file`
`02:46.27`	`lan56`	`exactly how you installed the one you have`
`02:46.42`	`BZFlag6461`	`k`
`02:47.02`	`lan56`	`sf.net/projects/bzflag - get the latest version from there`
`02:47.17`	`lan56`	`then download it, and install that same way you installed the one you have`
`02:47.24`	`BZFlag6461`	`i think I already downloaded it from there`
`02:47.36`	`lan56`	`then install it`
`02:47.48`	`BZFlag6461`	`problem is my son downloaded it off the zandros network`
`02:48.05`	`BZFlag6461`	`and I am very new to linux`
`02:48.44`	`*** join/#bzflag kunphuzil (~jtmendes@ip-69-10-117-191.cableaz.net)`
`02:48.52`	`lan56`	`oh, well, I am not expierienced in Linux other than what I know of Slackware linux, so someone here, this guy needs some help`
`02:49.12`	`lan56`	`triclops, you know about installing the Linux version of bzflag?`
`02:49.25`	`kunphuzil`	`If I'm running my own server, should I open the port on my router? (that's kind of an obvious question) also, it's listed as localhost over here, how do I tell others which is my server?`
`02:49.26`	`BZFlag6461`	`now windows xp I can do`
`02:49.29`	`triclops`	`a little`
`02:49.43`	`triclops`	`i tend to download and compile`
`02:49.59`	`trepan`	`kunphuzil: yes, and look at the -public and -publicaddr options`
`02:50.01`	`BZFlag6461`	`how do you compile?`
`02:50.05`	`lan56`	`same, does you son happen to know how to install it, bzflag6461?`
`02:50.11`	`kunphuzil`	`trepan: thanks`
`02:50.19`	`BZFlag6461`	`doubt it he is 9`
`02:50.35`	`triclops`	`download source, run ./autoconf (or something), run ./configure, run make, run make install`
`02:50.55`	`triclops`	`all from the directory the source has been decompressed into`
`02:51.10`	`triclops`	`make install will probably need root`
`02:51.44`	`BZFlag6461`	`k i will give it a shot`
`02:51.58`	`lan56`	`the source is on the same place, sf.net/projects/bzflag`
`02:52.15`	`BZFlag6461`	`got to go being paged by the boss`
`02:52.58`	`trepan`	`lan56: you must picked it up in the womb from your ma`
`02:53.07`	`lan56`	`my ma passed it on`
`02:53.37`	`trepan`	`osmotic code transfer, very twilight zone`
`02:53.44`	`lan56`	`my family was very rich in knowledge of computers, in fact, they were told from God about computers before they existed`
`02:54.35`	`lan56`	`speaking about twilight zone, I will never understand the Mac "chimes of doom"`
`02:54.45`	`lan56`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:54.48`	`lan56`	`*performa`
`02:55.08`	`lan56`	`never used a mac?`
`02:55.23`	`lan56`	`Apple computers Mac, that is`
`02:55.50`	`triclops`	`my macintosh keeps me dry when it rains`
`02:56.15`	`lan56`	`hmm, triclops: I am worried. you can get electricuted if water gets on electric`
`02:56.17`	`trepan`	`nope, haven't mac'ed much`
`02:56.23`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`02:57.09`	`trepan`	`the Mac COD anything like the Win BSOD?`
`02:57.29`	`triclops`	`http://auctions.searchmarketing.com/Blazer-Coat--3002-1-s.html`
`02:57.39`	`triclops`	`buy a cheap mac`
`02:57.50`	`lan56`	`an emac is good`
`02:58.06`	`lan56`	`nice, cheap, but well caught up with today's tech standards`
`02:58.26`	`lan56`	`darn nice coats for auction`
`02:59.15`	`MrApathyCream`	`it was a somber melody as i recall`
`02:59.25`	`lan56`	`chimes of doom?`
`02:59.50`	`lan56`	`scares me, never knew why Apple added that in`
`02:59.55`	`lan56`	`I guess to get your attention`
`03:00.05`	`lan56`	`but isn't a computer not working good enough? :)`
`03:00.36`	`MrApathyCream`	`yes`
`03:00.52`	`MrApathyCream`	`an off key-like 4 chord tune`
`03:01.12`	`lan56`	`its taken from the opening of the Twilight Zone`
`03:02.23`	`lan56`	`trepan: the chimes of doom are not like the BSOD; chimes of doom plays without an accompaning screen, as a matter of fact, the computer doesn't boot and nothing is shown on the screen`
`03:02.45`	`triclops`	`kinda like beep codes, but more fun`
`03:02.55`	`lan56`	`\a`
`03:03.00`	`lan56`	`hmm, doesn't work :)`
`03:03.03`	`MrApathyCream`	`as i recall it used to show a se with x's over it's eyes in the center of the screen`
`03:03.15`	`lan56`	`ahh, the sad mac I remember that`
`03:04.01`	`lan56`	`but sometimes, it would do COD or sad mac for no reason, I remember Marathon (popular Mac game) would crash, I would force restart, and then it would play, but restart again, no problem`
`03:04.57`	`*** join/#bzflag Punk (~chris@pop11-port79.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz)`
`03:04.58`	`*** join/#bzflag shorty114 (~robin@evrtwa1-ar3-4-65-157-053.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net)`
`03:05.06`	`Punk`	`hi all`
`03:05.09`	`shorty114`	`!seen Patlabor221`
`03:05.10`	`guu`	`shorty114: Patlabor221 was last seen here 1 day, 1 hour, 51 minutes, and 28 seconds ago saying: <Patlabor221> heh`
`03:05.27`	`shorty114`	`hi punk`
`03:05.36`	`shorty114`	`never watched matrix..`
`03:05.36`	`Punk`	`hey shorty`
`03:05.41`	`shorty114`	`;)`
`03:05.42`	`lan56`	`I have`
`03:05.48`	`Punk`	`what one?`
`03:05.55`	`Punk`	`first?`
`03:05.59`	`shorty114`	`never watched any`
`03:06.14`	`Punk`	`i have watched first`
`03:06.23`	`Punk`	`not second`
`03:07.21`	`Punk`	`u guys know how often the bzflag cvs is updated?`
`03:07.30`	`lan56`	`whenever there is change to source`
`03:07.42`	`lan56`	`i.e, whenever I have a new patch`
`03:07.44`	`lan56`	`lol :)`
`03:07.45`	`triclops`	`the anonymous cvs is a little behind the developer cvs`
`03:08.19`	`shorty114`	`oh really?`
`03:08.24`	`shorty114`	`how did that happen?`
`03:08.32`	`Punk`	`u developer?`
`03:08.35`	`shorty114`	`me? no`
`03:08.38`	`lan56`	`source forge mess ups`
`03:08.40`	`triclops`	`i dunno its sourceforge`
`03:08.44`	`shorty114`	`lol wat's new`
`03:08.49`	`triclops`	`not a mess up just the way it works`
`03:08.50`	`lan56`	`sf.net isn't very well built, they are recreating it though`
`03:08.58`	`shorty114`	`glad to hear...`
`03:09.04`	`Punk`	`yeah`
`03:09.05`	`lan56`	`stats don't work, CVS is behind, etc..`
`03:09.17`	`lan56`	`they do have excellent support`
`03:09.24`	`lan56`	`most companies don't even respond`
`03:09.26`	`shorty114`	`support for the things that don't work`
`03:09.34`	`lan56`	`they respond at latest one day later`
`03:09.36`	`shorty114`	`theyre probably good at suport`
`03:09.39`	`shorty114`	`lol`
`03:09.45`	`shorty114`	`a lot of experience...`
`03:09.50`	`Punk`	`how often is it updated?`
`03:10.00`	`lan56`	`whenever there is change to source`
`03:10.02`	`shorty114`	`everytime someone does a patch`
`03:10.04`	`shorty114`	`or change`
`03:10.09`	`lan56`	`i.e. when I make a patch :)`
`03:10.16`	`shorty114`	`technically, it could be every sec`
`03:10.19`	`shorty114`	`but not that active`
`03:10.25`	`shorty114`	`maybe everyday?`
`03:10.27`	`shorty114`	`??`
`03:10.39`	`shorty114`	`i recompile everyday or somewhat around that`
`03:10.50`	`lan56`	`I recompile when there is change`
`03:10.57`	`lan56`	`but I cvs update everyday`
`03:11.11`	`shorty114`	`how do u get news of changes?`
`03:11.12`	`Punk`	`really!!`
`03:11.16`	`*** join/#bzflag LilDog (~1811e8df@server24.greatnet.de)`
`03:11.21`	`shorty114`	`punk: just do cvs update -dP`
`03:11.22`	`Punk`	`hey lildog`
`03:11.25`	`shorty114`	`in the bzflag directory`
`03:11.27`	`shorty114`	`hey ld`
`03:11.38`	`Punk`	`oh yeah :)`
`03:11.40`	`Punk`	`tld...`
`03:11.43`	`Punk`	`toops`
`03:11.47`	`MrApathyCream`	`is patlabor near santa barbara?`
`03:11.49`	`shorty114`	`lol just anick...`
`03:11.56`	`shorty114`	`i dunno...where did u hear that?`
`03:11.56`	`MrApathyCream`	`big fire there`
`03:11.58`	`LilDog`	`hey`
`03:12.08`	`shorty114`	`!where Patlabor221`
`03:12.15`	`LilDog`	`shorty =.......`
`03:12.17`	`shorty114`	`doesn't work...`
`03:12.17`	`Punk`	`i am so used to pressing "t" for talk in bzflag i do it here where i dont need to`
`03:12.20`	`LilDog`	`i forgety`
`03:12.22`	`shorty114`	`lol`
`03:12.28`	`shorty114`	`hey ld`
`03:12.32`	`shorty114`	`shorty114 = loser`
`03:12.34`	`shorty114`	`in forum`
`03:12.38`	`LilDog`	`sup loser?`
`03:12.40`	`shorty114`	`cant use loser in irc`
`03:12.45`	`shorty114`	`already registered...`
`03:12.47`	`lan56`	`why?`
`03:12.47`	`shorty114`	`:(`
`03:12.49`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`03:12.50`	`LilDog`	`dude you need to go to ECN;s forum fast!`
`03:12.59`	`shorty114`	`i already did`
`03:13.05`	`LilDog`	`you get a custm rank if you do 30 posts (non spam crap)`
`03:13.06`	`shorty114`	`registered as loser :)`
`03:13.09`	`LilDog`	`nim at 47`
`03:13.14`	`shorty114`	`k00000000l`
`03:13.21`	`shorty114`	`can u pick it and the image?`
`03:13.33`	`shorty114`	`the custome rank`
`03:13.37`	`Punk`	`hi ld`
`03:13.49`	`shorty114`	`he's been here for a few min...lol`
`03:13.56`	`Punk`	`heh`
`03:14.00`	`Punk`	`:D`
`03:14.02`	`LilDog`	`yes`
`03:14.09`	`LilDog`	`hey`
`03:14.12`	`shorty114`	`trying to get my damn phpbb working`
`03:14.19`	`shorty114`	`not deoing very well... :)`
`03:14.30`	`Punk`	`ya know when cvs last updated?`
`03:14.30`	`shorty114`	`:\`
`03:14.38`	`lan56`	`today`
`03:14.38`	`Punk`	`:/`
`03:14.43`	`lan56`	`about 7 hours ago`
`03:14.45`	`LilDog`	`loser only one more can have a custom!!!`
`03:14.45`	`shorty114`	`ike, everyday`
`03:14.49`	`LilDog`	`go go go!`
`03:14.54`	`lan56`	`brlcad made a change to commands.cxx`
`03:15.03`	`Punk`	`might as well go and get the latest one!!`
`03:15.49`	`triclops`	`thats the cost of staying up to date`
`03:15.53`	`LilDog`	`~idle`
`03:16.00`	`Punk`	`~stats`
`03:16.01`	`ibot`	`Since Tue Jun 1 11:52:14 2004, there have been 45 modifications, 524 questions, 2028 dunnos, 10 morons and 488 commands. I have been awake for 5d 15h 23m 46s this session, and currently reference 107173 factoids. I'm using about 18960 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 7460.86/1193.22 child 908.07/108.09`
`03:16.03`	`*** join/#bzflag Fuddl (~fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:2e0:7dff:fee8:c0b9)`
`03:16.10`	`LilDog`	`~idlestats`
`03:16.16`	`Punk`	`lol`
`03:16.47`	`MrApathyCream`	`builds now`
`03:16.55`	`lan56`	`~fling LilDog`
`03:16.57`	`ibot`	`ACTION flings poo at LilDog`
`03:16.57`	`LilDog`	`hey Apathycream`
`03:16.58`	`LilDog`	`i like your site`
`03:17.00`	`lan56`	`:)`
`03:17.08`	`LilDog`	`uygh`
`03:17.15`	`LilDog`	`~whaleslap lan56`
`03:17.17`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps lan56 upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`03:17.18`	`LilDog`	`get away bugger`
`03:17.22`	`LilDog`	`:)`
`03:20.07`	`lan56`	`lol`
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`03:21.34`	`lan56`	`jeez, the lakers just can't score tonight`
`03:21.39`	`LilDog`	`:)`
`03:21.52`	`lan56`	`they were kicking butt in the first two quarters, now they are behind 9 points`
`03:24.04`	`MrApathyCream`	`lo LilDog`
`03:24.52`	`triclops`	`MrApathyCream: did you have a look at the AI framework link?`
`03:24.55`	`SportChick`	`trepan: you still here?`
`03:25.48`	`MrApathyCream`	`a quick look`
`03:25.49`	`MrApathyCream`	`:)`
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`03:26.03`	`triclops`	`what do you think?`
`03:26.14`	`MrApathyCream`	`a good start`
`03:26.27`	`LilDog`	`Apathycream have you seen my site?`
`03:26.35`	`MrApathyCream`	`prolly not`
`03:26.51`	`LilDog`	`wanna?`
`03:26.59`	`LilDog`	`i'll give you link`
`03:27.01`	`MrApathyCream`	`sure`
`03:27.02`	`triclops`	`MrApathyCream: what do you think of the overall structure?`
`03:27.05`	`LilDog`	`http://home.comcast.net/~gadgetmaster/`
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`03:28.24`	`MrApathyCream`	`your battlefield link is old`
`03:28.34`	`LilDog`	`i know`
`03:28.47`	`LilDog`	`i left it there in memory of battlefield`
`03:28.54`	`LilDog`	`you heard of the game?`
`03:29.04`	`MrApathyCream`	`no`
`03:29.07`	`MrApathyCream`	`why not just use www.PlayBattlefield.com`
`03:29.32`	`LilDog`	`thas a good idia`
`03:29.38`	`LilDog`	`i'll update it later`
`03:29.39`	`LilDog`	`thanks`
`03:30.48`	`MrApathyCream`	`your bzflag download version is old too!!`
`03:30.55`	`MrApathyCream`	`get to work young man :)`
`03:32.16`	`MrApathyCream`	`hmmm, sf bounced mail from sfsnap@babylonia.flatirons.org`
`03:32.27`	`MrApathyCream`	`that was the cows ip no?`
`03:33.13`	`LilDog`	`im going to update my bzflaglink when 1.12 comes out`
`03:33.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`you wouldn't want to bust a gut doin' it for 1.10 and 1.12 :))`
`03:34.05`	`LilDog`	`:)`
`03:34.31`	`SportChick`	`~trepan++`
`03:34.39`	`SportChick`	`he, MAC`
`03:34.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`~SportChick++`
`03:34.41`	`SportChick`	`heh`
`03:34.44`	`SportChick`	`awwwww`
`03:34.45`	`SportChick`	`thanks!`
`03:34.48`	`SportChick`	`what was THAT for?`
`03:34.51`	`SportChick`	`~trepan++`
`03:34.55`	`trepan`	`~Patlabor221++`
`03:34.58`	`SportChick`	`~karma SportChick`
`03:34.58`	`ibot`	`sportchick has karma of 18`
`03:35.00`	`SportChick`	`wow`
`03:35.01`	`MrApathyCream`	`no idear`
`03:35.04`	`trepan`	`~karma patlabor221`
`03:35.04`	`ibot`	`patlabor221 has karma of 79`
`03:35.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`seems impotent to you`
`03:35.08`	`SportChick`	`~MrApathyCream++`
`03:35.15`	`SportChick`	`~PatLabor221++`
`03:35.29`	`trepan`	`141 to go`
`03:35.48`	`SportChick`	`naw... I really use it to say thanks to the zillions of folks on here who help me`
`03:35.55`	`SportChick`	`AND I give it when I'm in a good mood`
`03:35.56`	`lan56`	`shouldn't it be ++CALLSIGN?`
`03:36.11`	`lan56`	`CALLSIGN++ will increment next time the same command is called`
`03:36.21`	`MrApathyCream`	`you would think`
`03:36.22`	`lan56`	`or am I too geeky`
`03:36.33`	`MrApathyCream`	`you have to ask?`
`03:36.50`	`MrApathyCream`	`~++lan56`
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`03:36.58`	`lan56`	`I have to ask :)`
`03:37.12`	`lan56`	`geeks have no life sense other than that of programming`
`03:37.13`	`MrApathyCream`	`~lan56+=1`
`03:37.47`	`lan56`	`~(lan56 == 0) ? ++lan56 : --lan56;`
`03:37.48`	`lan56`	`:)`
`03:38.35`	`SportChick`	`have fun`
`03:38.39`	`lan56`	`cya`
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`03:45.39`	`lan56`	`jeez, I was watching the lakers game, I turn away for a few minutes, and its over and I don't know who won!`
`03:45.51`	`SportChick`	`heh`
`03:45.54`	`learner`	`pistons won`
`03:46.01`	`lan56`	`ahh, darn`
`03:46.05`	`lan56`	`wanted the lakers to win`
`03:46.11`	`lan56`	`well, its best of 7 anyway`
`03:46.17`	`SportChick`	`detroit won`
`03:46.42`	`learner`	`hah, now we all know that detroit couldn't have won anything..`
`03:46.48`	`lan56`	`when the pistons play against other eastern teams, the scores bomb at the end of the game`
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`03:51.02`	`SportChick`	`that cough coach once led a certain (excellent) college team to a Final Four championship and then promptly abandoned the school/team and left them on probration`
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`03:52.40`	`triclops`	`brlcad/learner: about my AI framework. I was wondering if I could get your opinion on the way i have implemented the Events.`
`03:53.09`	`brlcad`	`triclops: there was little info on events on that previous page and two diags.`
`03:53.26`	`triclops`	`yeah i know. i can tell you how it works`
`03:53.30`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`03:53.54`	`triclops`	`basically there is a PlayerEvent class that encapsulates the events that get passed to the Players`
`03:54.31`	`triclops`	`i moved away from creating lots of subclasses to PlayerEvent and instead made PlayerEvent handle all of them`
`03:54.56`	`triclops`	`kinda like NSResponder in cocoa`
`03:55.26`	`triclops`	`would it be better to have subclassed?`
`03:58.48`	`Punk`	`just configuring bzflag now :-P`
`03:59.02`	`Punk`	`now the make..`
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`04:05.57`	`menotume`	`cosmos: it's happening again :(`
`04:06.28`	`menotume`	`someone is setting tanks speed on hepcat`
`04:07.05`	`LilDog`	`hey meno`
`04:08.03`	`brlcad`	`triclops: hrm`
`04:08.13`	`brlcad`	`(sorry was away bzbbing)`
`04:08.16`	`triclops`	`heh`
`04:08.47`	`brlcad`	`menotume: do you know whom?`
`04:08.47`	`triclops`	`its alright i have many words to write in 22 hours`
`04:08.54`	`menotume`	`no`
`04:09.16`	`brlcad`	`triclops: actually without putting a whole lot of thought into it, I would have preferred subclassing`
`04:09.35`	`triclops`	`i originally started doing that`
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`04:09.40`	`brlcad`	`that's generally important for having class meta data`
`04:09.56`	`triclops`	`i got to about 20 subclasses and stoped`
`04:10.04`	`triclops`	`yeah`
`04:10.07`	`LilDog`	`they overloaded server`
`04:10.10`	`LilDog`	`nits now jumping`
`04:10.10`	`brlcad`	`i.e. a method that returns a name, another for a description, another for the callback, another for serialization, another for logging, etc`
`04:10.13`	`Punk`	`when running make on the latest cvs of bzflag does anyone get this message?`
`04:10.15`	`Punk`	../../../bzflag/src/bzfrelay/bzfrelay.c:1114: warning: unused variable `tz'
`04:10.34`	`Punk`	`it then results in an error`
`04:10.41`	`Punk`	`and fails :(`
`04:10.42`	`brlcad`	`with NSResponder in Cocoa, it's not uncommon to subclass it ;)`
`04:10.51`	`trepan`	`brlcad: can I revert Tupone configure.in changes now?`
`04:10.52`	`menotume`	`wow, they even changed the map`
`04:10.57`	`brlcad`	`just generally is only dont' once or twice per app ;)`
`04:10.58`	`triclops`	`brlcad: actually i ment NSEvent`
`04:11.08`	`Punk`	`?`
`04:11.52`	`brlcad`	`triclops: perhaps if you are careful about creating the same interface`
`04:11.57`	`Punk`	has anyone get this error after a make of latest cvs bzflag? ../../../bzflag/src/bzfrelay/bzfrelay.c:1114: warning: unused variable `tz'
`04:12.07`	`Punk`	`s/get/got`
`04:12.18`	`brlcad`	`the main "hard part" is avoiding a switch statement anywhere`
`04:12.29`	`triclops`	`brlcad: ahh, i see now why subclassing could be useful. the events COULD be used to implement the protocol`
`04:12.32`	`triclops`	`yes`
`04:12.36`	`trepan`	`Punk: heard of it yesterday, don't know what the prob is exactly`
`04:12.39`	`triclops`	`i actually do use a switch statment`
`04:12.47`	`Punk`	`:( damn`
`04:12.57`	`brlcad`	`triclops: that's where the trouble starts :)`
`04:12.58`	`trepan`	`Punk: is that the only error listed?`
`04:13.04`	`triclops`	`brlcad: why is that?`
`04:13.13`	`triclops`	`actually i know why`
`04:13.18`	`triclops`	`:)`
`04:13.20`	`Punk`	`trepan: lots more about undeclared stuff`
`04:13.45`	`Punk`	the `tv` one was the one at the bottom :-P
`04:13.47`	`trepan`	`Punk: can you pipe it to a log file and send it to me? [ make &> logfile ]`
`04:13.58`	`Punk`	`toops`
`04:14.06`	`Punk`	`damn`
`04:14.08`	`brlcad`	`well, switched, you'll need multiple switch sections if you want to support any sort of metadata -- even if you forfeit event metadata, it's a rather limited process to add/remove events.`
`04:14.40`	`Punk`	`i always put a t in front of my chat because thats my talk button in bzflag :)`
`04:14.48`	`brlcad`	`with objects, you can register each event type as part of the constructor and there is no table to maintain`
`04:14.48`	`Punk`	`trepan: ok, brb`
`04:14.50`	`triclops`	`yeah. i guess the question arises of how far this event system would go`
`04:15.29`	`Punk`	`trepan: i got the file`
`04:15.38`	`Punk`	`trepan: now what?`
`04:15.39`	`brlcad`	`triclops: you can still go switchless without objects -- but you still need some sort of "register this event" facility`
`04:15.41`	`trepan`	`dcc it to me, or email?`
`04:15.50`	`Punk`	`trepan: dcc?`
`04:16.01`	`Punk`	`trepan: whats that?`
`04:16.11`	`trepan`	`it's how you send files over IRC`
`04:16.20`	`Punk`	`COOL!!!!`
`04:16.29`	`Punk`	`i dont know how tho :(`
`04:16.30`	`trepan`	`or just email to: trepan@rogers.com`
`04:16.33`	`brlcad`	`triclops: it sounds like you've already had thoughts on "how far it would go" .. sounds pretty critical`
`04:16.40`	`triclops`	`brlcad: ah, i think your talking about having some sort of message centre (ala notifications) that classes would register to`
`04:16.56`	`brlcad`	`yes, I am :)`
`04:17.34`	`brlcad`	`that would be preferred, though you could do it through a selective handling heirarchy too .. just not as efficient`
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`04:18.08`	`LilDog`	`hey there pat`
`04:18.15`	`triclops`	`hmm, well i've implemented it in a less general sense. in the heirarchy fashion. the event is pushed to the manager which pushes it to the players`
`04:18.56`	`triclops`	`a message centre was an idea i'd had off hand before, but didn't give much thought to it`
`04:19.14`	`Patlabor221`	`hello`
`04:20.11`	`brlcad`	`triclops: it depends on the types of events you have`
`04:20.16`	`triclops`	`In the long term a message centre could be a useful way to treat network data`
`04:20.21`	`triclops`	`yeah`
`04:20.24`	`brlcad`	`if they are selective, then it makes sense to make them notifications`
`04:20.34`	`brlcad`	`if they are not selective, then it is usually better to always deliver`
`04:21.04`	`triclops`	`well many of the messages require all of the players to receive them`
`04:21.21`	`brlcad`	`the prior is definately more flexible in general and prepared to scale "big", but is a little more work and thought up front`
`04:21.42`	`trepan`	`like bzfs? ;)`
`04:21.54`	`brlcad`	`something that wrapped log4cxx is something I've mentally toyed with`
`04:22.06`	`brlcad`	`it's geared for high-volume message notifications`
`04:22.38`	`triclops`	`where is log4.cxx?`
`04:22.56`	`brlcad`	`It's part of the apache project now`
`04:23.08`	`brlcad`	`http://logging.apache.org/log4cxx/`
`04:23.10`	`triclops`	`ah`
`04:23.19`	`brlcad`	`it's a port of java's log4j to c++`
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`04:24.47`	`brlcad`	`basically a means to create logging categories (like warnings, errors, etc) that you might want -- even arbitrary ones -- and then formatting them up for some sort of delivery`
`04:25.19`	`brlcad`	`like if the output is stdio, then just print/display it .. maybe mark it up as plain text, xml, html, etc`
`04:25.35`	`SportChick`	`hiya pat`
`04:25.55`	`brlcad`	`other delivery locations might be simply in memory, or to a remote logging device, syslog, NT event log, etc`
`04:25.56`	`Patlabor221`	`hi`
`04:26.16`	`triclops`	`can it handle multiple outputs?`
`04:26.45`	`Punk`	`trepan: an email should be arriving around now :)`
`04:26.51`	`trepan`	`Punk: thx, i know what your problem is`
`04:27.02`	`Punk`	`what?!`
`04:27.35`	`Punk`	`trepan: have you got it?`
`04:27.45`	`brlcad`	`triclops: considering we'd have to wrap up the logging into our own interface, we could easily have multiple outputs -- but I honestly don't recall if the lib suports it`
`04:27.48`	`trepan`	`the -D_BSD_SOURCE and -D_POSIX_SOURCE flags where removed from CPPFLAGS`
`04:28.00`	`Punk`	`trepan: wha???`
`04:28.09`	`trepan`	`you have to reconfigure, and rebuild`
`04:28.16`	`brlcad`	`ahh.. triclops: "Log4cxx allows logging requests to print to multiple destinations."`
`04:28.19`	`Punk`	`is that all`
`04:28.31`	`brlcad`	`it's never "all" ;)`
`04:28.35`	`trepan`	`nope, you have to add CPPFLAGS='-D_BSD_SOURCE and -D_POSIX_SOURCE'`
`04:28.51`	`brlcad`	`s/and// ...`
`04:28.54`	`Punk`	`just make clean, and configure, and make?`
`04:29.03`	`triclops`	`brlcad: thanks for the feedback, that helps heaps. the whole message passing thing was the one I was most 'uncomfortable' with.`
`04:29.11`	`brlcad`	`trepan: isn't he the same guy?`
`04:29.19`	`Punk`	`tso i type "make clean"`
`04:29.30`	`trepan`	`brlcad: beats me, but there has been a couple of others at least`
`04:29.55`	`Punk`	`than "./configure CPPFLAGS='-D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE'"`
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`04:30.04`	`Punk`	`than "make"?`
`04:30.29`	`Punk`	`trepan: correct?`
`04:30.30`	`trepan`	`not sure that the cleaning is required, but go for it`
`04:30.36`	`Punk`	`ok`
`04:31.43`	`brlcad`	`~spell travelling`
`04:31.44`	`ibot`	`possible spellings for travelling: traveling travel ling travel-ling travailing travelings raveling graveling driveling grovelling traversing trawling trialling`
`04:32.03`	`LilDog`	`~spell hi`
`04:32.03`	`ibot`	`'hi' may be spelled correctly`
`04:32.17`	`triclops`	`brlcad: everything else imho is pretty straight forward. Oh one more thing I've added references to the hud, controlPanel and radar inside the Player object because I thought it would be neat to be able to specify which Player is driving these things. What are your thoughts on doing that? I am still a little apprehensive because it breaks the MVC paradigm i'm so use to, but it makes converting from the old to the new very easy`
`04:32.35`	`Punk`	`lol`
`04:32.36`	`brlcad`	`ack!`
`04:32.45`	`Patlabor221`	`lildog, please do not act like an admin on bzbb, you are not one.`
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`04:33.17`	`brlcad`	`triclops: /me no likie for sure`
`04:33.32`	`Punk`	`trepan: still same thing`
`04:33.45`	`PrezKennedy`	`dang work tomorrow`
`04:33.50`	`PrezKennedy`	`windowless cave`
`04:33.51`	`triclops`	`don't like?`
`04:33.51`	`PrezKennedy`	`:-(`
`04:34.02`	`trepan`	`brlcad: what was your trick for adding CPPFLAGS again?`
`04:34.12`	`brlcad`	`triclops: It's not so much about MVC as it's encapsulation`
`04:34.23`	`brlcad`	`those objects should know nothing about the others..`
`04:34.27`	`Punk`	`yessss, go on :)`
`04:34.35`	`LilDog`	`sorry, i just tried to help`
`04:34.35`	`LilDog`	`i wont do it again`
`04:34.36`	`LilDog`	`i promise`
`04:34.45`	`Patlabor221`	`just don't try so damn hard`
`04:34.49`	`Punk`	`what?`
`04:34.51`	`Patlabor221`	`we can run the board just fine`
`04:34.52`	`brlcad`	`./configure CPPFLAGS="-D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE"`
`04:34.56`	`Punk`	`ok`
`04:35.05`	`Punk`	`brlcad: shall i try that?`
`04:35.12`	`brlcad`	`you shall`
`04:35.44`	`CIA-4`	`BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/configure.in: Reverting previous change, it breaks bzsignal.c and bzfrelay.c`
`04:35.46`	`Punk`	`is that the same?`
`04:36.00`	`Punk`	`i did`
`04:36.03`	`triclops`	`brlcad: hmm, needs a bit more work then. Unfortunately all the code that drives the sound, hud, control panel and radar is mixed in with the code that updates the player's`
`04:36.11`	`Punk`	`but is it the same as this one?`
`04:36.26`	`Punk`	`its to do with bzfrelay`
`04:36.53`	`Punk`	`no other problems...`
`04:37.06`	`Punk`	`except a whole lot with bzfrelay :(`
`04:37.23`	`brlcad`	`triclops: if it's something truely useful, then a bridge paradigm would probably help`
`04:37.32`	`trepan`	Punk: it is that problem, your first error tells all: bzfrelay.c:239: error: storage size of `sa' isn't known
`04:37.33`	`brlcad`	`something that knows and can make the linkage`
`04:37.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`log4c++ heh`
`04:38.04`	`brlcad`	`heya MAC.. all depoo'd? :)`
`04:38.08`	`Punk`	`could i just mv the whole bzfrelay dir to somwhere else?`
`04:38.14`	`MrApathyCream`	`all depooed`
`04:38.29`	`Punk`	`or will it have a problem with it not being there?`
`04:38.32`	`trepan`	`Punk: you'll also prolly kack on common/bzsignal.c`
`04:38.38`	`brlcad`	`I'd love to use log4cxx .. i'd be using it already if there wasn't a mac os x bug..`
`04:39.03`	`MrApathyCream`	`used log4j often :)`
`04:39.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`didn't know of the port`
`04:39.17`	`Punk`	`there is no error other than the bzfrelay errors`
`04:39.32`	`MrApathyCream`	`Patlabor221: younear the santa barbara fires?`
`04:39.52`	`Patlabor221`	`there are fires?`
`04:40.04`	`triclops`	`brlcad: so an object that encapsulates the sound, hud, controlPanel, etc updates`
`04:40.09`	`MrApathyCream`	`yes brush fires`
`04:40.14`	`Punk`	`trepan: what about moving the dir to somwhere else? that is.. the bzfrelay dir`
`04:40.19`	`triclops`	`s/updates/for updates/`
`04:40.20`	`trepan`	`Punk: compilation stops at bzfrelay, there are more errors to come`
`04:40.25`	`trepan`	`Punk: forget moving things...`
`04:40.37`	`Punk`	`trepan: oh, hehe`
`04:41.08`	`brlcad`	`MrApathyCream: so having used log4j often, do you thing something similar for c++ would be of use (especially for logging.. ;)`
`04:41.21`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm about an hour away from SB`
`04:41.22`	`Punk`	`:(`
`04:41.27`	`brlcad`	`triclops: yeah, perhaps some user interface class`
`04:41.30`	`Noodleman`	`what would you do with a klondike bar?`
`04:41.36`	`brlcad`	`of player gui class`
`04:41.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`prolly assuming the port is good`
`04:41.57`	`brlcad`	`Noodleman: I'd throw it away.. I don't like those things .. maybe lick off some of the chocolate first..`
`04:41.58`	`Punk`	`trepan: maybe could be my operating system? i have got fedora core 1`
`04:42.00`	`MrApathyCream`	`for% a klondike bar`
`04:42.12`	`trepan`	`Punk: do the make clean and configure again`
`04:42.13`	`Noodleman`	`brlcad: hehe`
`04:42.18`	`Punk`	`trepan: oik`
`04:42.18`	`PrezKennedy`	`what would you do for a klondike bar?`
`04:42.23`	`PrezKennedy`	`would you... kill a man?`
`04:42.24`	`Punk`	`trepan: ok`
`04:42.24`	`Noodleman`	`no, with`
`04:42.25`	`Patlabor221`	`I know I can't go down some roads due to the the regan thing tho`
`04:42.30`	`trepan`	`Punk: then check in src/bzfrelay/Makefile for the value of CPPFLAGS`
`04:42.37`	`Noodleman`	`it's a new idea for a parody commercial i came up with`
`04:42.47`	`trepan`	`Punk: if it ain't got -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURC it won't work`
`04:42.54`	`MrApathyCream`	`they are demarkated by the jelly beans?`
`04:42.58`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`04:42.58`	`Punk`	`ok`
`04:43.02`	`triclops`	`brlcad: for now i'll stick with my hack and note it as something that can be improved`
`04:43.03`	`Patlabor221`	`by cop cars`
`04:43.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`ah`
`04:43.12`	`Patlabor221`	`I can see the regan library from my porch`
`04:43.26`	`PrezKennedy`	`regan or reagan?`
`04:43.36`	`MrApathyCream`	`(2)`
`04:43.43`	`brlcad`	`yay, 5 simultaneous disjoint conversations`
`04:44.02`	`MrApathyCream`	`are they intra disjoint, or inter disjoint?`
`04:44.06`	`triclops`	`ah irc - conversations evolved`
`04:44.11`	`PrezKennedy`	`just wait until my other self gets here brlcad ;-)`
`04:44.19`	`Punk`	`trepan: u sure it is "-D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURC"?`
`04:44.22`	`brlcad`	`my other self is already here`
`04:44.26`	`brlcad`	`~lart learner`
`04:44.28`	`Punk`	`trepan: it has a problem with it`
`04:44.43`	`Punk`	`lol`
`04:44.51`	`trepan`	`what is CPPFLAGS set to in src/bzfrelay/Makefile ?`
`04:44.59`	`Punk`	`me checky`
`04:45.24`	`Patlabor221`	`the cool think is we can all follow them`
`04:46.02`	`Punk`	`oh, in the README it says to make a work dir back a dir and do the configure there, shall i do that?`
`04:47.43`	`Punk`	`the lin says "CPPFLAGS = -I$(top_srcdir)/include -Wall -W"`
`04:47.51`	`Punk`	`s/lin/line`
`04:48.12`	`trepan`	`Punk: ok, here's what you do, add -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE to that line`
`04:48.22`	`Punk`	`ok`
`04:48.24`	`trepan`	`and also add it to the CPPFLAGS line in src/common/Makefile`
`04:48.35`	`Punk`	`ok`
`04:48.40`	`PrezKennedy`	`hey brlcad, i finally made it off the floor`
`04:48.45`	`PrezKennedy`	`i actually have a table for my compute rnow`
`04:49.15`	`brlcad`	`my computer is still on the floor .. I really need to assemble my desk`
`04:49.34`	`PrezKennedy`	`now i dont have any excuses not to work on OSG`
`04:49.54`	`PrezKennedy`	`err... except that i have far cry to play when i get home from work`
`04:50.06`	`brlcad`	`Punk: add it to the CPPFLAGS for all the Makefiles in dirs that fail with any error..`
`04:51.28`	`brlcad`	`MrApathyCream: I am lying down right now.. all praise laptop in bed`
`04:52.16`	`Punk`	`ok`
`04:52.18`	`Punk`	`done`
`04:52.27`	`Punk`	`ill try it again`
`04:52.34`	`triclops`	`brlcad: i like your style.`
`04:52.42`	`Punk`	`make clean, configure, make....`
`04:56.12`	`Punk`	`trepan_strike: what u mean on "strike"?`
`04:59.07`	`brlcad`	`Punk, if you type configure again, you'll have to re-edit those Makefiles`
`04:59.18`	`brlcad`	`you only needed to run it once`
`05:03.31`	`Punk`	`ummm, i cant remember :-P`
`05:03.54`	`Punk`	`its been going for a lot longer than it was before tho' :)`
`05:04.19`	`brlcad`	`ah, good`
`05:04.52`	`Punk`	`where has everyone gone :O`
`05:05.00`	`Punk`	`>:o`
`05:05.44`	`Punk`	`?`
`05:05.51`	`Punk`	`what u up to???`
`05:06.14`	`Punk`	`its up to the SegmentedShotStrategy.cxx`
`05:06.53`	`Punk`	`polling system?`
`05:07.04`	`Punk`	`how u get that?`
`05:10.13`	`brlcad`	`don't worry about it .. it's in the game`
`05:28.03`	`trepan`	`too bad, it was prolly my fav (no flags, plenty o' targets)`
`05:28.05`	`brlcad`	`cosmos: nooooo....`
`05:28.16`	`brlcad`	`cosmos, what's happening?`
`05:28.27`	`trepan`	`are there any logs?`
`05:28.32`	`brlcad`	`don't set a server password`
`05:28.38`	`cosmos`	`there is either some nasty cheat client or someone who was able to sniff traffic between hepcat and the clients`
`05:28.43`	`cosmos`	`i dont have a server pass`
`05:29.10`	`cosmos`	`the logs do not show anyone issuing commands but just the commands themselves`
`05:29.17`	`brlcad`	`is there any group that has perm to run /set?`
`05:29.20`	`cosmos`	`no`
`05:29.39`	`cosmos`	`my useradmin group can just kick/ban and do playerlist etc`
`05:29.48`	`trepan`	`cosmos: huh, doesn't show who ran the commands? empty callsign?`
`05:30.05`	`cosmos`	`yeah the callsign shows empty or rather, like a bunch of spaces`
`05:30.21`	`trepan`	`might still be able to trace the playerid to an ip`
`05:30.25`	`purple_cow`	`woof`
`05:30.28`	`trepan`	`can i have a look?`
`05:30.28`	`brlcad`	`cosmos: I'd be glad to make a custom bzfs patch for you to get better logging specific to this`
`05:30.33`	`cosmos`	`i banned a few ips already`
`05:30.41`	`cosmos`	`brlcad that would rule`
`05:30.54`	`cosmos`	`id love to set it up so that only registered users can play`
`05:30.57`	`brlcad`	`you are running a 1.10.6 server, I assume?`
`05:31.01`	`cosmos`	`yes`
`05:31.08`	`cosmos`	`but i can do a cvs of a new branch`
`05:31.48`	`brlcad`	`ok, then I'll work on some patches for the v1_10branch to log blather better.. i added something to head, but it's not enough if this is really an exploit`
`05:32.10`	`cosmos`	`id love to have it spit out to the players if a /set command was used heh`
`05:32.20`	`brlcad`	`cosmos: would you be willing to send me some of your log and your server config?`
`05:32.30`	`brlcad`	`cosmos: that's exactly what I added`
`05:32.31`	`cosmos`	`they should never be used really and it would be nice to see`
`05:32.44`	`cosmos`	`oh wow, i should put the cvs build on then`
`05:33.01`	`cosmos`	`let me get the logs hold on`
`05:33.07`	`brlcad`	`It sends a notification to all of who set what var, and to what`
`05:33.19`	`trepan`	`cosmos: no-one is playing 1.11.x right now, and it isn't compatible with 1.10.x`
`05:33.28`	`brlcad`	`cosmos: I added it to HEAD, so I'd have to backport it to the v1_10branch`
`05:33.36`	`cosmos`	`oh drat`
`05:33.39`	`cosmos`	`WTF`
`05:33.44`	`brlcad`	`I can do that tomorrow morning`
`05:33.48`	`cosmos`	`god damn fucking script`
`05:34.07`	`brlcad`	`glad my scripts don't do that..`
`05:34.14`	`cosmos`	`i used > instead of >> shit.`
`05:34.28`	`cosmos`	`dont write when your 3/4 of a way into a jack daniels bottle`
`05:34.36`	`trepan`	`brlcad: no logs for you! (think soup nazi)`
`05:35.12`	`brlcad`	`cosmos: so you don't even have the ability to run /set?`
`05:35.34`	`cosmos`	`i could do it yes but only me. hold on ill show you my group`
`05:35.42`	`brlcad`	`I find it hard to believe there is some deeper exploit.. perhaps if no password is set .. set one to something incomprehensible`
`05:35.51`	`cosmos`	`REGISTERED: REQUIREIDENTIFY LAGSTATS POLL VOTE`
`05:35.52`	`cosmos`	`USERADMIN: IDLESTATS LAGSTATS FLAGMOD FLAGHISTORY LAGWARN PLAYERLIST KICK BAN BANLIST UNBAN VETO REQUIREIDENTIFY`
`05:36.05`	`cosmos`	`im in the default ADMIN`
`05:36.27`	`cosmos`	`i was thinking of tossing my user/pass and making all rereg again with new passwords`
`05:36.42`	`brlcad`	`are you sure there are no players in your user file also in the ADMIN group?`
`05:37.04`	`cosmos`	`lets find out. btw, i took the server pass out 3 days ago. all this began right about a day later`
`05:37.27`	`brlcad`	`it would be worthwhile to change your own password as well just for kicks .. and don't use it :)`
`05:37.48`	`PrezKennedy`	`gnight all`
`05:37.54`	`brlcad`	`hrm, then there very well may be a problem with no pass set..`
`05:38.02`	`brlcad`	`g'night PrezKennedy cya morrow`
`05:38.03`	`PrezKennedy`	`if i dont get enough sleep ill end up snoring in my cubicle`
`05:38.04`	`PrezKennedy`	`:-D`
`05:38.13`	`cosmos`	`ill set it to random garbage`
`05:38.32`	`PrezKennedy`	`see ya`
`05:39.48`	`cosmos`	`yeah i hear you.`
`05:39.53`	`cosmos`	`night`
`05:40.27`	`trepan`	`ciao brlcad`
`05:40.35`	`triclops`	`cya brlcad`
`05:40.45`	`cosmos`	`ill brb`
`05:43.05`	`SportChick`	`trepan: you still on?`
`05:43.30`	`trepan`	`yup`
`05:58.44`	`Punk`	`trepan: I did it!!!! I have been playing on it and i have found a new loved flag!!! Wings :)`
`05:59.07`	`Punk`	`playing on it for 15 mins now :-P`
`05:59.53`	`Punk`	`there r only 2 servers in the list tho' lol >:o`
`06:00.22`	`Punk`	`im going back on it :)`
`06:00.40`	`trepan`	`Punk: good work, enjoy`
`06:01.43`	`Punk`	`trepan: thx`
`06:01.53`	`Punk`	`trepan: also couldnt do it without u`
`06:02.03`	`Punk`	`trepan: have u got it?`
`06:02.18`	`Punk`	`10.11.3`
`06:03.12`	`Punk`	`brb`
`06:03.14`	`*** part/#bzflag Punk (~chris@pop11-port79.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz)`
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`06:04.42`	`trepan`	`Punk: yes, i've got 1.11.3, but i'm a little bz now`
`06:05.42`	`Punk`	`bz?`
`06:06.16`	`trepan`	`busy`
`06:06.31`	`*** join/#bzflag Punk (~chris@pop11-port79.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz)`
`06:06.46`	`Punk`	`oops`
`06:07.25`	`Punk`	`what u mean bz trepan?`
`06:07.53`	`Punk`	`thought ya might want to come on one of the servers :)`
`06:08.06`	`Punk`	`ill give ya a battle`
`06:08.56`	`Punk`	`trepan: u there?`
`06:09.00`	`trepan`	`sorry, bz = busy = otherwise occupied, i do appreciate the offer though`
`06:09.15`	`Punk`	`oh`
`06:09.23`	`Punk`	`stink.... lol`
`06:10.18`	`Punk`	`trepan: have u got a new favourite weapon?`
`06:10.41`	`trepan`	`gimp2`
`06:19.01`	`Punk`	`~seen blast007`
`06:19.03`	`ibot`	`blast007 is currently on #bzflag (1d 12h 24m 12s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 5h 16m 44s`
`06:19.54`	`Punk`	`~seen purple_cow`
`06:19.54`	`ibot`	`purple_cow is currently on #bzflag (1d 3h 29m 40s) #tacobeam (1d 3h 29m 40s). Has said a total of 75 messages. Is idling for 6m 49s`
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