| 00:02.32 | menotume | we have a TK/jerk on Quol, can anyone help ? |
| 00:02.38 | bluedragon | who |
| 00:02.40 | bluedragon | lol |
| 00:02.42 | bluedragon | ban |
| 00:02.45 | menotume | BRUIN |
| 00:08.33 | *** join/#bzflag sbo092 (~d8ec11d5@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 00:12.49 | *** join/#bzflag bandito (~c635b85d@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 00:13.10 | Bandito | ok all i have a problem |
| 00:13.27 | Patlabor221 | msc is for VC only |
| 00:13.34 | Bandito | ? |
| 00:13.35 | Patlabor221 | win32 would be for all windows systems |
| 00:13.45 | Patlabor221 | aka non ms compiler |
| 00:13.58 | Bandito | oh hes talking to someone else |
| 00:14.17 | Patlabor221 | tho we are totaly inconcsistent |
| 00:14.27 | Patlabor221 | generaly the code uses _WIN32 |
| 00:14.41 | Bandito | ok ill just state my problem well it is i have made a server and it almost works but when i go to get in it says communication error joining game |
| 00:14.52 | Patlabor221 | you have routing issues then |
| 00:15.03 | Patlabor221 | something is messing up the comunication |
| 00:15.04 | Bandito | so what would the prob be? |
| 00:15.14 | Patlabor221 | firewall, crap router, no UDP |
| 00:15.21 | Bandito | hmmmm |
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| 00:15.43 | Patlabor221 | turn on some -d in the server and see where it pukes |
| 00:16.42 | Bandito | so do i just go -d |
| 00:16.55 | Patlabor221 | put 3 of them |
| 00:16.56 | Bandito | in the conf file |
| 00:16.58 | Patlabor221 | -d -d -d |
| 00:17.00 | Bandito | ok |
| 00:17.02 | Patlabor221 | in the command line |
| 00:17.27 | Bandito | spaces? |
| 00:17.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah they are seperate |
| 00:18.33 | trepan | Patlabor221: thx, for the MSC_VER vs. WIN32 tip |
| 00:19.01 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 00:19.18 | Patlabor221 | techincalyy the win32 is just defined as a define |
| 00:19.24 | Patlabor221 | and MSC_VER is a number |
| 00:19.31 | Patlabor221 | so you can check what version of VC your runing |
| 00:19.48 | Patlabor221 | like for those warnings that we do all the time, don't need to do them in 7.0+ |
| 00:20.24 | trepan | wonder if cygwin will need <dirent.h> to work, that's the way the code is |
| 00:20.52 | Patlabor221 | probably |
| 00:20.57 | Patlabor221 | that's why what we do is kinda bad |
| 00:21.07 | Patlabor221 | for unix style builds on windows |
| 00:21.29 | trepan | cygwin (msys) build use windows native mode, doesn't it? |
| 00:21.57 | Bandito | ok i got in but umm when i try to do any commands like register or asmin login if i do 2 things it terminates |
| 00:23.20 | Bandito | whats the prob |
| 00:24.24 | Patlabor221 | I don't know if they do or not, if they do then yes they would need directX |
| 00:24.27 | Patlabor221 | or SDL |
| 00:24.45 | Patlabor221 | did you set up your user, group, and password fiels? |
| 00:25.00 | Bandito | i set up only the group files |
| 00:25.13 | Patlabor221 | did you define file locations for the other files in the config? |
| 00:25.23 | Bandito | yah |
| 00:25.30 | Patlabor221 | are they valid? |
| 00:25.36 | Bandito | Yah |
| 00:25.47 | Patlabor221 | was any error generated? |
| 00:26.10 | Bandito | just said server forced a disconnect |
| 00:26.25 | Patlabor221 | did you get any messages in the server window? |
| 00:26.36 | Bandito | umm ALOT |
| 00:26.48 | Patlabor221 | read them, that is what happend |
| 00:26.59 | Patlabor221 | the -d's give more detailed errors |
| 00:27.43 | Bandito | ummm i have a BIG question |
| 00:27.48 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 00:27.54 | Bandito | how do i read it |
| 00:28.07 | Bandito | it just mutter on wit 0's |
| 00:28.15 | Bandito | oh nvm |
| 00:28.20 | Patlabor221 | you put letters together into words, words sperated by spaces form sentances :) |
| 00:28.30 | menotume | lol |
| 00:28.40 | Bandito | lol i know that |
| 00:29.03 | Patlabor221 | then you have answerd your own question, welcome to a larger world :) |
| 00:29.09 | Bandito | :) |
| 00:29.14 | Bandito | ok umm it says |
| 00:30.15 | Bandito | PLayer Bandito [0] on 1892 removed:write error |
| 00:30.43 | Patlabor221 | that's not good |
| 00:31.10 | Patlabor221 | what did you do when it kicked you? |
| 00:31.29 | Bandito | umm i tryed to login as an admin |
| 00:31.39 | Bandito | and the tried to register |
| 00:31.41 | Patlabor221 | with -password something ? |
| 00:31.50 | Bandito | yah |
| 00:31.51 | menotume | write permission on the group/user files ? |
| 00:31.55 | Patlabor221 | did that work? |
| 00:32.02 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's probably a file thing |
| 00:32.09 | Bandito | no it didn't do anything |
| 00:32.10 | Patlabor221 | do you have write permisions to the dir |
| 00:32.23 | Patlabor221 | and what are your paths to the users and password files? |
| 00:32.25 | Bandito | which dir? |
| 00:32.39 | Patlabor221 | what ever dir you have it set to do the files in |
| 00:32.41 | menotume | Are you using Linux, Bandito ? |
| 00:32.49 | Patlabor221 | he's onXP |
| 00:32.50 | Bandito | i only wish |
| 00:32.56 | menotume | oooo, bummer :( |
| 00:33.02 | Patlabor221 | wishes can come true, linux is free |
| 00:33.25 | Patlabor221 | what do you have in your config for the files? |
| 00:33.28 | Bandito | uwhere u get it how u install it can u run 2 os's on 1 comp at the same time |
| 00:33.37 | Patlabor221 | at the same time, don't |
| 00:33.40 | Patlabor221 | you can dual boot |
| 00:33.42 | Bandito | well u answer those later |
| 00:33.48 | *** join/#bzflag loser (~04419e15@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 00:34.00 | Patlabor221 | only if you start typing full words :) |
| 00:34.11 | loser | so how does this work? |
| 00:34.16 | Patlabor221 | you type |
| 00:34.17 | loser | this irc thing? |
| 00:34.18 | Patlabor221 | we see |
| 00:34.22 | loser | o |
| 00:34.27 | loser | first time here :) |
| 00:34.32 | Bandito | but it is C:\MY BZ SERVER\the files(ex. usrpriv.db) |
| 00:34.33 | Patlabor221 | really? couldn't tell :) |
| 00:34.37 | loser | lol |
| 00:34.46 | Patlabor221 | you have a folder called that Bandito? |
| 00:34.48 | Bandito | for all of them |
| 00:34.57 | Bandito | yah |
| 00:35.02 | Patlabor221 | take the spaces out |
| 00:35.09 | Patlabor221 | it may not like them |
| 00:35.13 | Bandito | ok |
| 00:35.14 | loser | what's the green @ symbol next to some ppl's names? |
| 00:35.19 | loser | is it admin or something? |
| 00:35.21 | Patlabor221 | operators |
| 00:35.22 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:35.27 | loser | o |
| 00:35.32 | loser | k00l |
| 00:35.39 | Patlabor221 | please don't leet |
| 00:35.42 | menotume | quotes "around the file name" may help |
| 00:35.46 | loser | o srry |
| 00:35.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah but not using spaces is a sure fire way :) |
| 00:36.05 | menotume | true :) |
| 00:37.07 | Patlabor221 | best to start simple |
| 00:37.21 | Patlabor221 | Bandito, or just put them in the dir with the server exe and take off all paths |
| 00:37.54 | loser | g2g bye |
| 00:39.37 | Bandito | ok done |
| 00:40.20 | Patlabor221 | run it |
| 00:40.30 | Bandito | yah and now guess what |
| 00:40.49 | Bandito | it wont even let me in |
| 00:40.57 | Patlabor221 | you have issues then |
| 00:41.03 | Bandito | back to communication error joining |
| 00:41.10 | *** join/#bzflag triclops (~triclops_@wireless-183.wireless.cse.unsw.EDU.AU) |
| 00:41.14 | Patlabor221 | go back and see what you changed |
| 00:41.21 | Patlabor221 | change 1 thing at a time back untill it works |
| 00:41.26 | Bandito | ok |
| 00:41.27 | Patlabor221 | that way you can see what you did |
| 00:41.34 | Patlabor221 | try it with no registration first |
| 00:41.36 | Patlabor221 | does that even work? |
| 00:41.47 | Patlabor221 | break it up into small parts |
| 00:42.02 | Bandito | with no registratino |
| 00:42.28 | triclops | hey what does updateNumPlayers() do in playing.cxx? It takes no parameters and only changes a local variable? |
| 00:43.03 | Bandito | umm ok if i want port 5156 i have to put it behind the server name right like |
| 00:43.20 | Patlabor221 | you do a -port 5156 I think |
| 00:43.28 | Patlabor221 | read the man page |
| 00:43.31 | Patlabor221 | bbl |
| 00:43.36 | Bandito | o |
| 00:46.03 | Bandito | who will help me now? |
| 00:46.19 | triclops | heh |
| 00:46.32 | Bandito | oh no not u? |
| 00:46.44 | Bandito | i have many more questions |
| 00:46.56 | triclops | hehe |
| 00:47.04 | Bandito | + im first |
| 00:47.37 | triclops | fair cop |
| 00:56.27 | im | ~seen pimpinella |
| 00:56.30 | ibot | pimpinella is currently on #bzleague (3h 26m 6s) #bzflag (3h 26m 6s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 3h 2m 28s |
| 00:59.37 | trepan | triclops: updateNumPlayers(), yup, seems weird |
| 01:03.55 | triclops | yeah |
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| 01:24.14 | *** join/#bzflag patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-67-115-244-189.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 01:25.46 | patlabor221 | no |
| 01:25.46 | *** join/#bzflag bandito (~cdceed94@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 01:25.52 | patlabor221 | but Im sure i can look |
| 01:25.59 | triclops | coolies |
| 01:26.09 | bandito | patlabor your back |
| 01:26.11 | patlabor221 | let me just get this movie in the dvd |
| 01:26.24 | patlabor221 | what about my back? |
| 01:26.37 | bandito | u are back |
| 01:26.40 | bryjen | is there a /command to get bzfs to send its version, or is that just in the "announce message" ? |
| 01:26.42 | patlabor221 | it could use some moisturiser |
| 01:26.45 | bandito | i need help badly |
| 01:27.18 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 01:27.30 | bandito | well anyways continues on ok i unplugged my router and am now using no ip .com |
| 01:27.39 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:27.44 | bandito | and well it still doesn't f in work |
| 01:27.58 | pyrobunny | patlabor221, this is prolly a very stupid question, but in C++ can you have a class within a class within a class... etc |
| 01:28.12 | bandito | and i have a new q umm are the pass word group and user susposed to be .db files |
| 01:28.15 | patlabor221 | oh my no cvs here |
| 01:28.19 | patlabor221 | I guess I am |
| 01:28.37 | patlabor221 | pyrobunny, you can, but often if your doing that it's best to derive a class from a class |
| 01:28.54 | patlabor221 | bandito, did it work with no registration stuff? |
| 01:29.03 | pyrobunny | ok thank |
| 01:29.05 | pyrobunny | s |
| 01:29.12 | bandito | what do u mean no registration stuff? |
| 01:29.32 | patlabor221 | did you try it with out doing the password, group, and user files? |
| 01:29.43 | bandito | oh maybe i should |
| 01:29.53 | patlabor221 | that is the last thing I told you to try |
| 01:30.02 | bandito | but are the files susposed to be .db? |
| 01:30.08 | patlabor221 | it dosn't mater |
| 01:30.11 | patlabor221 | they are just text files |
| 01:30.22 | patlabor221 | the extenstion is just a name |
| 01:31.32 | patlabor221 | joy must restart, brb |
| 01:32.07 | bandito | ~seen grumbler |
| 01:32.12 | ibot | grumbler <~Grumbler@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 5h 52m 1s ago, saying: 'now there would be a feature............a way for an admin to upload a new map'. |
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| 01:34.43 | bandito | hey |
| 01:35.45 | patlabor221 | yes? |
| 01:36.01 | bandito | umm well i can get in but i can't spawn and as soon as i try to like login as admin KIK |
| 01:36.30 | patlabor221 | well then you have other problems then registration |
| 01:36.33 | patlabor221 | you need to solve those |
| 01:36.41 | patlabor221 | where did you get the server app? from sf? |
| 01:37.12 | bandito | server app? |
| 01:37.22 | patlabor221 | the exe your runing |
| 01:37.24 | patlabor221 | bzfs |
| 01:37.41 | bandito | oh yah its the BZFS |
| 01:38.18 | patlabor221 | where did you get it? |
| 01:38.56 | bandito | umm www.bzflag .org |
| 01:40.01 | patlabor221 | triclops, it looks like it just goes thru and clears out and reupdates an aray that keeps the current max players per team |
| 01:40.13 | triclops | but that array is local to the method |
| 01:40.18 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:40.22 | patlabor221 | oh |
| 01:40.22 | triclops | how is that useful? |
| 01:40.25 | patlabor221 | well damn |
| 01:40.28 | patlabor221 | no clue :) |
| 01:40.36 | patlabor221 | don't look like it does a damned thing then |
| 01:40.57 | triclops | yeah, thats what i was thinking |
| 01:41.10 | patlabor221 | bandito, you have a password set in your config/ |
| 01:41.17 | bandito | yah |
| 01:41.35 | patlabor221 | i'd start removing stuff from your config till you find out what is jacked |
| 01:42.29 | triclops | my C++ is rusty, i wasn't sure if there was some weird side effect i wasn't seeing. |
| 01:42.58 | patlabor221 | not unless there is a global with the same name |
| 01:43.44 | triclops | wouldn't the scope of the local override that? |
| 01:44.07 | patlabor221 | i forget what overdides what |
| 01:46.40 | triclops | there is an array of the same name in ServerStartMenu.cxx but its a local |
| 01:46.55 | triclops | otherwise it is redundant |
| 01:47.10 | patlabor221 | funny |
| 01:47.29 | brlcad | did trepan actually get the playback to work? |
| 01:48.15 | patlabor221 | dono |
| 01:48.24 | patlabor221 | didn't compile on windows |
| 01:53.21 | *** join/#bzflag pyrobunny (~pyrobunny@cpe-024-165-176-053.midsouth.rr.com) |
| 02:01.07 | bandito | is ny1 here? |
| 02:01.32 | *** join/#bzflag Corvette (~89bac829@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 02:01.35 | Corvette | hi all |
| 02:01.48 | brlcad | bandito: of course not |
| 02:01.51 | Corvette | =-) |
| 02:03.02 | Corvette | how come no one evr talks? |
| 02:03.08 | bandito | oh watch this |
| 02:03.12 | Corvette | lol |
| 02:03.16 | bandito | ~do u like sex |
| 02:03.23 | ibot | ACTION does u like sex. |
| 02:03.48 | brlcad | Corvette: busy times |
| 02:03.53 | Corvette | ~is badito insane? |
| 02:04.56 | Corvette | bandito* |
| 02:04.56 | bandito | ~67/100 |
| 02:04.59 | ibot | 0.67 |
| 02:04.59 | brlcad | how's the tanking? |
| 02:04.59 | bandito | ~seen grumbler |
| 02:05.02 | ibot | grumbler <~Grumbler@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 6h 24m 51s ago, saying: 'now there would be a feature............a way for an admin to upload a new map'. |
| 02:05.07 | Corvette | oh great other than our server crashed=-) |
| 02:05.20 | brlcad | bzfs crashed? or the machine? |
| 02:05.36 | bandito | nwell whatever machine was hosting crashed |
| 02:05.42 | Corvette | ya |
| 02:05.48 | bandito | hey brl maybe u might be able to help us |
| 02:05.54 | brlcad | so you don't know :) |
| 02:05.57 | Corvette | ya=-) |
| 02:06.20 | bandito | Grumbler was hosting it on the public design server do u have access to that |
| 02:06.32 | brlcad | "design server"? |
| 02:06.50 | bandito | it was the public design test server |
| 02:06.52 | Corvette | it was like am map tesat sevre |
| 02:07.01 | bandito | do u knwo hoe i can access it |
| 02:07.13 | Corvette | ???=-) |
| 02:07.20 | brlcad | regardless, I don't believe I have access to any of grumbler's boxes |
| 02:07.27 | Corvette | oh |
| 02:07.34 | brlcad | is the machine responding? |
| 02:07.34 | Corvette | how many he ha=ve? |
| 02:07.39 | bandito | oh i didn't think it was one of his boxes |
| 02:07.49 | Corvette | we dunno all we no is the server is gone |
| 02:07.53 | bandito | i thought it was the public design server |
| 02:07.58 | brlcad | what was the server's name and port? |
| 02:08.08 | Corvette | nummmm some thing port 5555 |
| 02:08.17 | Corvette | g sumthin |
| 02:08.30 | bryjen | galkire.net |
| 02:08.35 | Corvette | YA! |
| 02:08.37 | patlabor221 | i'm sure he'll be back later |
| 02:08.40 | brlcad | ~ping galkire.net |
| 02:08.47 | ibot | pong galkire.net |
| 02:08.47 | patlabor221 | just chill for a while ;0 |
| 02:08.50 | bandito | yah |
| 02:08.54 | bryjen | its Grumblers instance on one of Nidhoggr's boxen |
| 02:09.02 | Corvette | oh |
| 02:09.09 | Corvette | interesting |
| 02:09.12 | brlcad | looks like his bzfs crashed |
| 02:09.15 | Corvette | =-) |
| 02:09.21 | bandito | can u get it up? |
| 02:09.33 | brlcad | heh, yes, but what does that have to do with this? :) |
| 02:09.34 | Corvette | and running:) |
| 02:09.37 | patlabor221 | well is she hot? |
| 02:09.51 | Corvette | ?? hwo hot hehe |
| 02:09.55 | bandito | not sure but u can get it up |
| 02:09.59 | brlcad | patlabor221: hopefully like iMac girl :) |
| 02:10.09 | Corvette | lol |
| 02:10.15 | bandito | LOL |
| 02:10.16 | patlabor221 | what ever floats your boat |
| 02:10.23 | brlcad | oh, she floats it |
| 02:10.28 | bandito | ok brl back to my question |
| 02:10.30 | Corvette | :)~ |
| 02:10.37 | bandito | plzz |
| 02:10.43 | Corvette | =-)~ |
| 02:10.46 | brlcad | you'll have to wait |
| 02:10.48 | bryjen | brlcad: inflatable? |
| 02:10.48 | patlabor221 | there is no reason your server sould not work |
| 02:10.50 | patlabor221 | or you wait |
| 02:10.51 | brlcad | for the grumbler |
| 02:10.53 | bandito | why u cant do it |
| 02:11.07 | Corvette | dont get him mad bart |
| 02:11.20 | brlcad | because I lack thumbs |
| 02:11.20 | Corvette | =-)~ |
| 02:11.34 | Corvette | thunbs? like fingers lol |
| 02:11.35 | bandito | no patlabor i have hosted it on Grumblers server but bzfs crashed and i think brl can access it |
| 02:11.54 | patlabor221 | just wait for the server op |
| 02:11.56 | Corvette | *thinks* |
| 02:12.46 | patlabor221 | you will live |
| 02:12.47 | bandito | ~ping galkire.net |
| 02:12.53 | ibot | pong galkire.net |
| 02:12.53 | Corvette | how we no when he comes? |
| 02:12.53 | patlabor221 | you'll see a message that he has joined |
| 02:12.53 | bandito | which is grumbler |
| 02:12.53 | *** join/#bzflag JBdiGriz (~JBdiGriz@adsl-63-204-117-13.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 02:12.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 02:12.54 | patlabor221 | or send him an e-mail |
| 02:12.54 | bryjen | like that one for JB |
| 02:12.54 | Corvette | hey jb |
| 02:12.54 | JBdiGriz | hey |
| 02:13.04 | bryjen | must be a looong table |
| 02:13.04 | bandito | ok so its obviously still running |
| 02:13.17 | Corvette | lol so wats that mean? |
| 02:13.19 | patlabor221 | no that means the server responds to pings |
| 02:13.25 | bryjen | the machine is, the bzfs program may not be |
| 02:13.28 | brlcad | hrm.. ibot is conflicting.. galkire might have simply lost dns resolution |
| 02:13.28 | patlabor221 | that does not mean bzfs is running |
| 02:13.46 | brlcad | can anyone get an IP to resolve? |
| 02:13.52 | trepan | brlcad: yup, playback actually works |
| 02:13.58 | brlcad | trepan: shibby |
| 02:13.58 | bandito | i think i could |
| 02:13.58 | patlabor221 | cortana nslookup |
| 02:14.04 | bryjen | ~nslookup localhost |
| 02:14.19 | brlcad | bryjen: yes, but ibot cannot resolve galkire.net |
| 02:14.34 | bryjen | you didnt ask for a specific one ;) |
| 02:14.34 | brlcad | yet conflictingly she'll report a pong |
| 02:14.36 | patlabor221 | nor can I |
| 02:14.39 | patlabor221 | it's NFG |
| 02:14.44 | brlcad | yup |
| 02:14.47 | patlabor221 | it's probably cached |
| 02:14.47 | Corvette | nhey bry u have a public server could u see wats wrng with the 1 were making |
| 02:15.05 | patlabor221 | ibot ping brlcad |
| 02:15.17 | ibot | pong brlcad |
| 02:15.17 | brlcad | *pong* |
| 02:15.17 | Corvette | lol |
| 02:15.17 | scanline | Corvette: can't you use real words, rather than things like "u" and "1"? |
| 02:15.18 | bryjen | ~ping bzflag.galkire.net |
| 02:15.28 | ibot | pong bzflag.galkire.net |
| 02:15.37 | bryjen | ~nslookup bzflag.galkire.net |
| 02:15.45 | brlcad | mmm.. |
| 02:15.47 | bandito | oh it did it |
| 02:15.47 | Corvette | y wrong wth my shrtnd version of things? |
| 02:16.15 | brlcad | well, no server running on 5555 |
| 02:16.22 | bandito | ibot ping corvette |
| 02:16.28 | ibot | pong corvette |
| 02:16.28 | Corvette | whos scanline? |
| 02:16.31 | patlabor221 | a person |
| 02:16.37 | bandito | :) |
| 02:16.56 | Corvette | y wats wrong with me using shortened versions of every thing |
| 02:16.57 | brlcad | Corvette, why you ask? |
| 02:17.15 | brlcad | scanline's a good guy |
| 02:17.25 | bandito | psssh i dont know whos real and whos a bot to do stuff for us |
| 02:17.28 | patlabor221 | because we like to read words |
| 02:17.33 | patlabor221 | not that crap |
| 02:17.50 | bandito | see i type good :) |
| 02:17.56 | Corvette | lol y asure |
| 02:18.06 | Corvette | sry giys thast just the way i type |
| 02:18.15 | patlabor221 | then change it |
| 02:18.29 | Corvette | WHY* though? |
| 02:18.38 | patlabor221 | because we asked |
| 02:18.45 | Corvette | it matter that much |
| 02:18.48 | bandito | ibot nsresolve galkire.net |
| 02:18.51 | ibot | bandito: bugger all, i dunno |
| 02:18.57 | patlabor221 | bandito do it in a /msg |
| 02:19.01 | patlabor221 | it's just down |
| 02:19.07 | bandito | its not workin for me |
| 02:19.07 | patlabor221 | you'll have to wait till it comes back |
| 02:19.14 | patlabor221 | or get your server working |
| 02:19.17 | bandito | how will it come back |
| 02:19.22 | patlabor221 | when he fixes it |
| 02:19.26 | Corvette | *lauugh out loud* |
| 02:19.37 | bandito | pssh that could be when like next year |
| 02:19.45 | bandito | ibot have you seen grumbler |
| 02:19.47 | ibot | bandito: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 02:19.51 | patlabor221 | then it will be next year |
| 02:19.51 | brlcad | patience young grasshopper |
| 02:19.55 | patlabor221 | really sSTOP with the bot |
| 02:20.00 | patlabor221 | you have been warned |
| 02:20.10 | bandito | tldp.org? |
| 02:20.12 | patlabor221 | send him an email |
| 02:20.12 | Corvette | *Laugh Out Loud* |
| 02:20.33 | patlabor221 | Corvette, what are you trying to do/ |
| 02:20.44 | Corvette | how i talk like that? |
| 02:20.47 | brlcad | patlabor221: so how's cali this week? |
| 02:20.51 | Corvette | when its orange? |
| 02:21.05 | patlabor221 | it's nice this week |
| 02:21.09 | JBdiGriz | It's drizzling a bit right now. |
| 02:21.11 | patlabor221 | you comin out for e3/ |
| 02:21.20 | brlcad | I wish |
| 02:21.35 | brlcad | nah, I'll be in for either javaone or siggraph again, though |
| 02:21.42 | patlabor221 | when is that/ |
| 02:21.54 | brlcad | java1 is end of june, siggraph is end of july |
| 02:22.06 | brlcad | iirc |
| 02:22.07 | JBdiGriz | When are you going to think about moving out here? |
| 02:22.12 | Corvette | anyway to answer ur question patlabor221 im not suposed to use shortened versions of stuff |
| 02:22.27 | brlcad | heh, when I get an offer for double salary to compensate for the living expenses :) |
| 02:22.40 | patlabor221 | it would be nice if you spoke in complete sentances like everyone else, yes |
| 02:22.45 | Corvette | *laugh Out Loud* |
| 02:22.54 | Corvette | i am jeese |
| 02:22.58 | JBdiGriz | Hmmm, I'm not sure about double, but there might be some good jumps right now ;) |
| 02:23.04 | bandito | well as long as no punctuation has to be added |
| 02:23.11 | patlabor221 | no Corvette your being rather anoying |
| 02:23.17 | patlabor221 | this isn't a place for babble |
| 02:23.27 | Corvette | OH u spelt annoying wrong sue me lol |
| 02:23.44 | Corvette | jk |
| 02:23.49 | Corvette | i meen just kidding |
| 02:23.55 | *** kick/#bzflag [Corvette!~morrison@brlcad.active.supporter.pdpc] by brlcad (enough please) |
| 02:24.03 | patlabor221 | yes i can not spell |
| 02:24.44 | patlabor221 | who let the special children in tonight/ |
| 02:25.11 | trepan | shift key broken/ |
| 02:25.36 | JBdiGriz | you didn't just log on, you only returned ;) |
| 02:25.36 | patlabor221 | yes it is |
| 02:25.45 | patlabor221 | I spilled a beer in here last night |
| 02:25.51 | patlabor221 | guess it didn't all get cleaned out |
| 02:25.52 | *** join/#bzflag Corvette (~89bac829@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 02:25.59 | Corvette | amoi back? |
| 02:26.03 | brlcad | yes |
| 02:26.07 | Corvette | oh lol |
| 02:26.08 | bandito | poor ibot i guess he sizzled for awhile |
| 02:26.20 | Corvette | you sizzled him |
| 02:26.22 | trepan | patlabor221: you've gotta be putting me on ... |
| 02:26.26 | JBdiGriz | It was only a kick, not a ban. Have you heard the story about getting a donkey's attention? |
| 02:26.32 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 02:26.35 | Corvette | ha? |
| 02:26.58 | Corvette | ohhh storys i like storys=-) |
| 02:27.47 | brlcad | hehe |
| 02:27.48 | bryjen | Long ago, on a television far away... |
| 02:28.08 | brlcad | =) |
| 02:28.10 | Corvette | lol ohhh this one sounds good [continue] |
| 02:28.26 | Corvette | hey meno |
| 02:28.30 | Corvette | and how u do that? |
| 02:28.34 | patlabor221 | Corvette, he means that was a warning, the next one will not let you come back |
| 02:28.39 | menotume | who, /me ? |
| 02:28.42 | brlcad | Corvette: a show that probably ended before you were born |
| 02:28.45 | Corvette | wat i do? |
| 02:28.45 | patlabor221 | cortana irc guide |
| 02:28.46 | Cortana | irc guide is http://www.mirc.com/irc.html |
| 02:28.50 | patlabor221 | go read that |
| 02:28.57 | Corvette | who me? |
| 02:28.59 | bryjen | oo, that's handy |
| 02:28.59 | patlabor221 | yes you |
| 02:29.10 | patlabor221 | i had a feeling it would come in handy |
| 02:29.13 | Corvette | oh ya if it was before 91 yep |
| 02:29.19 | bryjen | eep |
| 02:29.33 | JBdiGriz | Does she have a guide to the smart way to ask questions? |
| 02:29.51 | Corvette | ok wats tat site for? |
| 02:29.53 | patlabor221 | no you sould add that |
| 02:29.58 | pyrobunny | Corvette, try ChatJunkies, you will probably find it more suitable then freenode |
| 02:29.58 | patlabor221 | it's for reading |
| 02:29.59 | patlabor221 | getto it |
| 02:30.07 | patlabor221 | yeah or undernet |
| 02:30.16 | Corvette | whats chat junkies? |
| 02:30.23 | patlabor221 | a difrent IRC network |
| 02:30.31 | Corvette | oh y should i go there? |
| 02:30.37 | Corvette | why* sry |
| 02:30.41 | Corvette | sorry* |
| 02:30.46 | Corvette | habbit |
| 02:30.51 | *** join/#bzflag bandit (~cdceed94@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 02:31.02 | patlabor221 | no he can't |
| 02:31.05 | Corvette | why? |
| 02:31.24 | brlcad | less questions, more listening |
| 02:31.31 | patlabor221 | read that doc |
| 02:31.37 | patlabor221 | it tells what IRc is and how to use it |
| 02:31.43 | Corvette | a hint is there some sorta hidden hint im not good at those BELEIVE me |
| 02:32.14 | menotume | Corvette: This is not a 'chat' channel. There are other channels for that |
| 02:32.26 | Corvette | oh wat is this then? |
| 02:32.37 | patlabor221 | it's a channel for development of bzflag |
| 02:32.38 | pyrobunny | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.52 | pyrobunny | and general, 'matureness' |
| 02:32.54 | patlabor221 | why did you come in here? |
| 02:33.08 | Corvette | oh i think there should be...................ummmmmm.............. better help in game |
| 02:33.28 | patlabor221 | or go to #bzleague |
| 02:33.28 | pyrobunny | have you ever played bzflag? |
| 02:33.31 | Corvette | u know minors like me dont understand as well as elders |
| 02:33.40 | patlabor221 | sure they do |
| 02:33.44 | Corvette | oplayed oh ya im 1 of the best lol |
| 02:33.47 | patlabor221 | they just have to pay atention |
| 02:34.01 | pyrobunny | I am a minor, (though I _can_ be annoying) |
| 02:34.03 | Corvette | one sprry sorry habbit |
| 02:34.08 | patlabor221 | well I'm done with him, anyone else see any reason to keep him here/ |
| 02:34.13 | pyrobunny | nope. |
| 02:34.21 | patlabor221 | bye Corvette |
| 02:34.40 | pyrobunny | ...the silence intrigues pyrobunny |
| 02:34.42 | *** join/#bzflag bandito (~cdceed94@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 02:34.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 02:34.53 | bandito | <-----------is back |
| 02:35.02 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*Guu@*.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by patlabor221 |
| 02:35.03 | *** kick/#bzflag [Cortana!~JeffM@adsl-67-115-244-189.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by patlabor221 (patlabor221) |
| 02:35.11 | *** join/#bzflag Terminator (~89bac829@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 02:35.12 | bryjen | ?!?! |
| 02:35.15 | pyrobunny | patlabor221, augh! |
| 02:35.16 | Terminator | hello all |
| 02:35.17 | JBdiGriz | ooh, that'll teach her |
| 02:35.18 | bandito | why cortana get kiked |
| 02:35.19 | pyrobunny | :D |
| 02:35.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*89bac829@*.noodleroni.com] by patlabor221 |
| 02:35.22 | *** kick/#bzflag [Corvette!~JeffM@adsl-67-115-244-189.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by patlabor221 (patlabor221) |
| 02:35.26 | pyrobunny | mistake bandito |
| 02:35.35 | bryjen | an innocent bystander to a right-click action, /me bets |
| 02:35.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*Guu@*.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by patlabor221 |
| 02:35.45 | bandito | oh |
| 02:35.48 | triclops | or tab completion |
| 02:35.48 | bandito | poor her |
| 02:35.56 | patlabor221 | I missclicked |
| 02:36.00 | patlabor221 | it's ok, she knows me |
| 02:36.05 | bandito | who u mean to click |
| 02:36.08 | JBdiGriz | intimately |
| 02:36.16 | *** join/#bzflag Cortana (~Guu@adsl-67-115-244-189.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 02:36.29 | JBdiGriz | Cortana: hi |
| 02:36.30 | patlabor221 | the person next to her |
| 02:36.38 | pyrobunny | patlabor221, if I have more than one class, is there a 'master' deconsturcter, instead of having to do it for all? |
| 02:36.43 | bandito | so what exactly does cortana do |
| 02:36.56 | patlabor221 | many things |
| 02:37.05 | bandito | like name one |
| 02:37.15 | patlabor221 | all the things a supybot does |
| 02:37.16 | pyrobunny | !list |
| 02:37.18 | Cortana | pyrobunny: Admin, Alias, Amazon, Babelfish, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Debian, Dict, Ebay, Factoids, Fun, FunDB, Google, Herald, Http, Karma, LogToIrc, Math, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, News, Note, Owner, Parter, Poll, QuoteGrabs, Quotes, RSS, Scheduler, Seen, Sourceforge, Status, Todo, Topic, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, Weather, WordStats, and Words |
| 02:38.09 | bandito | wow she does alot of hot stuff |
| 02:38.15 | bandito | :) |
| 02:38.24 | patlabor221 | yes it's rather usefull |
| 02:38.24 | bandito | i dont see some options i like on there |
| 02:38.37 | bandito | i want more |
| 02:38.51 | patlabor221 | then make your own bot in your own channel |
| 02:38.54 | bandito | i want diff options like kiss hug entertain lol |
| 02:38.54 | pyrobunny | bandito, get the server working? |
| 02:39.01 | patlabor221 | cus the world isn't all about you |
| 02:40.10 | patlabor221 | naw that was yesterday |
| 02:40.47 | bryjen | uh, ok |
| 02:40.52 | patlabor221 | a what? |
| 02:40.59 | bandito | lol |
| 02:41.03 | pyrobunny | the beer |
| 02:41.07 | pyrobunny | Fat Bastard |
| 02:41.09 | patlabor221 | never heard of it |
| 02:41.11 | bandito | mmm mmmm beer |
| 02:41.14 | pyrobunny | :-0 |
| 02:41.14 | patlabor221 | and netehr should you have :) |
| 02:41.18 | pyrobunny | tis good |
| 02:41.31 | bandito | hey who stole corvettes voice? |
| 02:42.04 | patlabor221 | he was baned |
| 02:42.05 | bandito | i mean terminators |
| 02:42.05 | pyrobunny | bandito, does it matter, he is banned |
| 02:42.09 | pyrobunny | oh |
| 02:42.23 | bandito | sorry |
| 02:42.39 | bandito | pyrobunny, i am sorry |
| 02:43.16 | patlabor221 | why would you apologise for another user/\ |
| 02:43.44 | pyrobunny | it was a simple mistake, no need to apoligize :-P |
| 02:44.06 | pyrobunny | guilt complex, or low self-esteem? |
| 02:44.18 | bandito | ?what |
| 02:45.05 | pyrobunny | well, you said you were sorry, when it was a simple mistake. It just puzzled us... |
| 02:45.05 | bandito | why the ibot no work |
| 02:45.24 | trepan | patlabor221: did you say that the capture stuff still doesn't build on windows, or that it doesn't run? |
| 02:45.25 | bandito | is he iggyin me? |
| 02:45.25 | bryjen | ibot: hello? |
| 02:45.29 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 02:45.33 | patlabor221 | i fixed it |
| 02:45.45 | patlabor221 | just build errors |
| 02:45.46 | bandito | huh |
| 02:45.48 | patlabor221 | all better now |
| 02:45.48 | trepan | or, just that little bit from before, ok |
| 02:45.56 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (CaptureReplay.cxx bzfs.cxx): preparing for improved capture headers |
| 02:46.02 | *** part/#bzflag pyrobunny (~pyrobunny@cpe-024-165-176-053.midsouth.rr.com) |
| 02:46.21 | trepan | it might even run on windows run now, if you don't roll the 49 hour window |
| 02:46.32 | *** join/#bzflag pyrobunny (~pyrobunny@cpe-024-165-176-053.midsouth.rr.com) |
| 02:46.49 | *** join/#bzflag pyrobunny (~pyrobunny@cpe-024-165-176-053.midsouth.rr.com) |
| 02:47.16 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 02:47.28 | patlabor221 | i haven't tried to run it |
| 02:47.35 | bandito | ummm ibot no work |
| 02:47.38 | trepan | (2^32/1000)/86400 |
| 02:47.55 | trepan | ah, your weren't asking about the time... ;) |
| 02:48.06 | patlabor221 | no |
| 02:48.13 | patlabor221 | it was the dir creation stuff |
| 02:48.24 | bandito | see ~ ping galkire.net |
| 02:48.50 | bandito | ~ping galkire.net |
| 02:48.56 | ibot | pong galkire.net |
| 02:48.56 | brlcad | patlabor221: I'd suggest the ban remain indefinately for the time being |
| 02:48.58 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:49.04 | bandito | oh there we go |
| 02:49.14 | bandito | hmm there was def hesitatino |
| 02:49.16 | patlabor221 | dude bandito you'll know when it's back cus it'll show in the list server |
| 02:49.24 | patlabor221 | pinging it dosn't mean squat |
| 02:49.25 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bzflag.galkire.net:5555 |
| 02:49.28 | bandito | i wonder if grumblers box went unstable |
| 02:50.05 | bandito | ~list |
| 02:50.09 | ibot | one warez list being sent |
| 02:50.16 | patlabor221 | use the bot in a message |
| 02:50.17 | trepan | bandito: more likely that grumbler went unstable |
| 02:50.21 | patlabor221 | we don't need to see that |
| 02:50.32 | bandito | lol trepan |
| 02:51.45 | bandito | did u kik me? |
| 02:51.51 | bandito | ok good |
| 02:51.53 | patlabor221 | no but i will in a second |
| 02:52.09 | brlcad | bandito: turn the volume down for a while (i.e. keep quiet) |
| 02:53.51 | bandito | hmmm forgets which way does my radio volume go |
| 02:54.12 | patlabor221 | your not doing well |
| 02:54.19 | brlcad | at all |
| 02:56.03 | bandito | patla are u in a bad mood? |
| 02:56.08 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 02:56.13 | bandito | ok |
| 02:56.16 | bandito | just check |
| 02:56.34 | bandito | ok patla q for u |
| 02:56.38 | bryjen | wow. a liitle scriptery with bzadmin reveals a handful of bzfs on windoze, some mac & bsd, and some knut with solaris... |
| 02:57.01 | brlcad | bryjen: heh, neat |
| 02:57.19 | bandito | what is the minimum checks i need to have to have the server able to run |
| 02:57.36 | patlabor221 | nothing |
| 02:57.48 | bandito | zip wiw |
| 02:59.21 | patlabor221 | solaris |
| 02:59.23 | patlabor221 | is that tim |
| 02:59.25 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 03:00.23 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 03:00.44 | JBdiGriz | patlabor221: solaris is definitely not bsd :) |
| 03:00.51 | patlabor221 | I know |
| 03:00.59 | patlabor221 | but is the solaris guy tim? |
| 03:01.06 | patlabor221 | it was not related to the bsd question |
| 03:01.11 | JBdiGriz | I thought tim was all linux |
| 03:01.20 | bryjen | I closed the window. shoulda sent it to a file. |
| 03:01.29 | trepan | what would a good default directory be for storing capture files in windows? |
| 03:01.57 | JBdiGriz | trepan: /dev/null |
| 03:02.03 | trepan | heh |
| 03:02.05 | patlabor221 | the same place the configs are stored |
| 03:02.08 | patlabor221 | and the prefs |
| 03:02.12 | patlabor221 | just make a folder |
| 03:02.14 | trepan | bzfs, not bzflag |
| 03:02.18 | patlabor221 | my bzflag movies |
| 03:02.29 | patlabor221 | the user may not have write access to anywhere else |
| 03:02.36 | trepan | right now, it's "./bzreplay" |
| 03:02.49 | trepan | good enough? |
| 03:04.07 | bandito | how do u do the *bandito thinks he like hot choclotae type of thing |
| 03:04.09 | patlabor221 | its not windows standard |
| 03:04.14 | patlabor221 | and / don't work :) |
| 03:04.21 | patlabor221 | you read up on iRc |
| 03:04.36 | trepan | heh, you know it changes it ;) |
| 03:04.52 | bandito | are u all on linux? |
| 03:05.03 | bandito | are any of u running windows |
| 03:05.09 | patlabor221 | the user may not have write access to it |
| 03:05.16 | patlabor221 | best is to do what bzflag does |
| 03:05.19 | amathis101 | *cough* pat *cough* |
| 03:05.22 | patlabor221 | and call the system dir |
| 03:05.43 | trepan | patlabor221: k, i'll use the stuff that's in playing.cxx |
| 03:06.19 | patlabor221 | yeah that should be goo |
| 03:06.21 | patlabor221 | d |
| 03:06.27 | patlabor221 | then just make a replay dir |
| 03:06.32 | trepan | i'll also throw in a command line option to specify |
| 03:06.59 | patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 03:06.59 | trepan | it already tries to make the dir if it ain't there |
| 03:07.05 | brlcad | bzfs probably deserves it's own config file at some point |
| 03:07.12 | patlabor221 | well it didn't on windows till today ;) |
| 03:07.56 | brlcad | trepan: C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32 is a good location |
| 03:07.58 | trepan | ya, think it did, DTRemenak had it working yesterday, prolly diff compiler |
| 03:08.09 | patlabor221 | hard coded/ no |
| 03:08.19 | trepan | brlcad: there goes the whole reason for forcing them into 1 dir |
| 03:08.27 | patlabor221 | the functions you called didn't exist in vc |
| 03:08.48 | patlabor221 | install linux then |
| 03:08.50 | trepan | he was prolly using cygwin then, and it was only _stat vs. stat, wasn't it? |
| 03:09.16 | Cortana | New news from bzgirl: new computer || the parents || celeron |
| 03:09.16 | amathis101 | I do run linux. |
| 03:09.33 | amathis101 | Do ya'll see this as bold? |
| 03:09.37 | bandito | yah |
| 03:09.38 | trepan | yes, stop it |
| 03:09.45 | trepan | please |
| 03:10.37 | bandito | can yah? |
| 03:10.40 | patlabor221 | at once not with out vmware |
| 03:10.40 | amathis101 | bandito, yes, as long as wiundows is installed first, you can use lilo to dual boot |
| 03:10.51 | patlabor221 | yeah dual boot will let you sawp |
| 03:11.00 | bandito | cool |
| 03:11.06 | amathis101 | I did it, until I saw windows as pointless |
| 03:11.09 | bandito | it sounds confusing |
| 03:11.28 | bandito | is linux hard to run? |
| 03:11.36 | brlcad | there was that project that for a while would let you hot-swap various OSs like ctrl-alt-f8, etc |
| 03:11.38 | patlabor221 | it's difrent |
| 03:11.51 | patlabor221 | it helps to know how computers work |
| 03:12.00 | bandito | i dont though |
| 03:12.07 | bandito | do servers run on it easier |
| 03:12.09 | brlcad | i wonder what happened to that project |
| 03:12.24 | amathis101 | bandito, you might like reading up on linux, tis interesting (see: http://www.google.com) |
| 03:16.13 | bandito | its soo quiet |
| 03:16.52 | patlabor221 | you think this is a pleasure chat room? |
| 03:17.03 | bandito | yah |
| 03:17.28 | bandito | oh cool soo you can run linux ON WINDOWS |
| 03:17.33 | bandito | cool |
| 03:18.22 | bryjen | system32 ? |
| 03:33.09 | bandito | WAKE UP |
| 03:33.15 | bandito | its soo quiet |
| 03:33.23 | bandito | UP UP EVERYONE |
| 03:33.27 | bryjen | the solaris bzfs is boo2.smolkowski.com:5154 |
| 03:33.43 | patlabor221 | bandito you have been warned |
| 03:34.23 | bandito | oh no i got the shoe :( |
| 03:36.11 | bandito | IM BACK |
| 03:36.16 | *** kick/#bzflag [bandito!~morrison@brlcad.active.supporter.pdpc] by brlcad (that means be quiet .. not comment on how you need to be quiet) |
| 03:37.26 | brlcad | who's next? |
| 03:38.29 | brlcad | sheesh.. try to return from several days of absence to a nice dev discussion.. |
| 03:38.45 | bryjen | has anything good ever come from cgi:irc ? |
| 03:38.58 | brlcad | I use it sometimes :P :) |
| 03:39.11 | brlcad | so no =) |
| 03:39.18 | bryjen | hehe |
| 03:40.48 | brlcad | triclops: it's resets the clients book-keeping on the number of players, no? |
| 03:41.06 | brlcad | bzfs does a better job, but the client is often uncertain for some reason |
| 03:41.32 | triclops | well updateNumPlayers stores that book-keeping in a local variable, which kinda makes it irrelevant |
| 03:41.34 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-227-157.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 03:42.02 | brlcad | hrm.. i think that used to be static |
| 03:42.09 | brlcad | which shows just how rotten it is :) |
| 03:42.49 | brlcad | code rot -- should be able to rip it out; i don't see anything that uses it |
| 03:42.55 | brlcad | DTRemenak: thank you! |
| 03:43.06 | DTRemenak | huh? |
| 03:43.22 | triclops | code rot, yay.... |
| 03:44.22 | trepan | brlcad: wasn't worth the keystrokes? ;) |
| 03:44.32 | brlcad | DTRemenak: windows build |
| 03:44.44 | DTRemenak | oh, no problem :) |
| 03:45.48 | *** join/#bzflag bandito (~cdceed94@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 03:46.28 | *** join/#bzflag menotume (~menotume@pcp08396790pcs.cnclrk01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 03:48.08 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: do de do, keep compiling on windows |
| 03:48.36 | brlcad | ~spell berkeley |
| 03:48.40 | ibot | possible spellings for berkeley: Berkeley Berkley Berkly Barkley Berkeley's |
| 03:49.12 | brlcad | good grief, they're all valid |
| 03:49.18 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 03:49.52 | menotume | Barkley ? |
| 03:50.47 | bryjen | Well, its a big lake, for one: http://www.lakebarkley.org/ |
| 03:51.02 | bandito | heh weird |
| 03:51.07 | menotume | hehe |
| 03:51.22 | bandito | where is it located? |
| 03:51.45 | menotume | why, Kentucky, of course |
| 03:51.53 | bandito | hmmm |
| 03:52.04 | bryjen | possible some in tennessee too |
| 03:52.23 | bandito | ibot is scary |
| 03:52.26 | ibot | no idea, bandito |
| 03:52.55 | bandito | oops |
| 03:53.51 | menotume | ibot lart bandito |
| 03:54.47 | bandito | ow |
| 03:56.45 | bandito | lets check |
| 03:56.51 | bandito | ibot: texas |
| 03:56.54 | ibot | i guess texas is a fine place for y'all to have a big ol' time |
| 03:57.07 | brlcad | bandito: message ibot in private, not here |
| 03:57.15 | bryjen | Cortana: weather houston, texas |
| 03:57.26 | bandito | :) ok |
| 03:57.43 | bandito | she doesn;t know i dont think |
| 03:57.53 | bryjen | wrong format |
| 03:58.20 | patlabor221 | oh i was hoping for a in person report |
| 03:59.46 | bandito | u need to put a location code |
| 03:59.55 | menotume | hmmm, 93% humidity - i thought it was supossed to be dry therer |
| 04:00.15 | menotume | ~weather houston, tx |
| 04:00.26 | bryjen | getting down toward the gulf i'd guess |
| 04:00.51 | bandito | like this |
| 04:00.54 | menotume | hmm, it worked talk directly to Cortana |
| 04:00.58 | bandito | 70000-79999 |
| 04:01.16 | menotume | <Cortana> The current temperature in Houston, TX is 74°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Wind: SE at 8 mph (13 km/h). |
| 04:01.17 | bandito | ibot: weather 70000-79999 |
| 04:01.32 | bandito | ok fine be that way |
| 04:01.39 | patlabor221 | don't mess with the bot |
| 04:01.41 | patlabor221 | really |
| 04:01.50 | bandito | is cortana better |
| 04:01.51 | bryjen | she like the state abbreviated |
| 04:02.07 | patlabor221 | they are difrent bots |
| 04:02.42 | triclops | bandit: /msg ibot or cortana if you want to mess around, don't do it in a public channel |
| 04:02.56 | patlabor221 | for the 30th time |
| 04:04.55 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CaptureReplay.cxx: quell a mingw warning |
| 04:05.11 | bandito | :( she doesn't do canada |
| 04:05.47 | patlabor221 | it does you just have to get it right |
| 04:05.50 | brlcad | she does if you do it right |
| 04:06.00 | bryjen | provinces instead of states |
| 04:06.05 | bandito | hmmmm |
| 04:06.44 | bandito | how should i put it? |
| 04:06.52 | bryjen | all the win bzfs-es i found were VC71. i wonder how many doze-people build the client. |
| 04:07.02 | patlabor221 | read the help bandito |
| 04:07.19 | patlabor221 | bryjen, probably only 2-3 |
| 04:07.28 | patlabor221 | if it's .net it's probably my build |
| 04:07.52 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak_ (~DTRemenak@host-227-157.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 04:08.20 | bryjen | altho only supporting the latest one compiler wouldn't be very nice since they have to _pay_ for upgrades ;) |
| 04:08.51 | patlabor221 | it supports multiple compilers |
| 04:09.02 | patlabor221 | and they do offer the vc7.1 compiler for free now |
| 04:09.04 | patlabor221 | just not the ide |
| 04:09.59 | bryjen | yeah, i was just pondering on the plethora of possibilities |
| 04:10.07 | bryjen | p-p-p-p |
| 04:10.14 | patlabor221 | tho i have to do the .net ones static link |
| 04:10.23 | patlabor221 | i can do vc6 dynamic |
| 04:11.08 | trepan | anyone mind if I rip getCacheDirectoryName() out of playing.cxx, and put it in common/ |
| 04:11.26 | trepan | problem is, i don't know which #includes to use for win/ma |
| 04:11.30 | trepan | c |
| 04:12.06 | patlabor221 | i don't care |
| 04:12.21 | patlabor221 | pull it and i'll make sure it has the right one tomorow |
| 04:12.24 | trepan | good enough, i'll head over the msdn to try to get 'em right |
| 04:12.28 | patlabor221 | cus i'll have to add your new files |
| 04:12.28 | brlcad | trepan: try src/game if it actually returns a bzflag dir |
| 04:13.04 | bryjen | what was the problem with "My Documents" being a network location? unc names? |
| 04:13.16 | trepan | brlcad: will do |
| 04:13.19 | brlcad | common is supposed to be app-agnostic, game is bz-specific |
| 04:13.34 | bandito | so are u guys pondering a new version |
| 04:13.58 | bandito | and figuring out what u have to do?? |
| 04:14.12 | trepan | apgnostic, that's coinable |
| 04:14.58 | bryjen | sounds abit gnasty tho |
| 04:15.36 | brlcad | bandito: that is generally the on-going topic |
| 04:15.43 | bandito | cool |
| 04:15.51 | bandito | can i help at all? |
| 04:15.59 | brlcad | can you code? |
| 04:16.10 | bandito | umm how do u do that? |
| 04:16.17 | bandito | i can copy files |
| 04:16.23 | brlcad | then the answer is no ;) |
| 04:16.40 | brlcad | if you can write, you could write up some tutorials or strategy guides |
| 04:16.47 | bandito | i could provide feedback from a windows point of view |
| 04:17.07 | bandito | bet yah dont get alot of that |
| 04:17.15 | brlcad | nah, we get plenty of "feedback" -- perhaps an install guide would be use |
| 04:17.24 | bandito | hmmmm |
| 04:17.28 | bandito | i could do that |
| 04:17.53 | brlcad | you're just not allowed to write it in MS Word. |
| 04:18.04 | bandito | why not |
| 04:18.12 | menotume | :-D |
| 04:18.25 | brlcad | use something/anything else |
| 04:18.32 | bandito | u dontlike microsoft |
| 04:18.34 | bryjen | edlin! |
| 04:18.48 | bandito | how about note pad |
| 04:18.51 | menotume | HTML - post it in the web |
| 04:18.52 | bandito | !!! |
| 04:19.01 | bandito | ok i could do that |
| 04:19.03 | brlcad | notepad is fine -- just keep it simple |
| 04:19.14 | bandito | what about HTML |
| 04:19.34 | patlabor221 | they need a guide to 'double click' |
| 04:19.35 | brlcad | meh -- if it's simple, sure |
| 04:19.43 | patlabor221 | i made that installer tardpoof |
| 04:19.46 | brlcad | (simple format -- not content) |
| 04:20.06 | bryjen | don't forget to click next |
| 04:20.27 | brlcad | could include details on how to modify the config file, where files are stored, run a server, etc |
| 04:20.59 | bandito | EVERYTHING BUT RUNNIN A SERVER lol |
| 04:21.01 | menotume | yes, useful |
| 04:21.21 | patlabor221 | the servers work for others |
| 04:21.30 | bandito | yah not for me |
| 04:21.38 | menotume | you can find bits and pieces on the web, like the wiki at bzflag.org |
| 04:21.40 | bandito | i could tell em to do it my way |
| 04:22.25 | menotume | It would be nice to have a good compilation of the info that's already out there |
| 04:22.45 | brlcad | i started gathering stuff into docs/ |
| 04:23.00 | bryjen | isn't that what the wiki is for? |
| 04:23.09 | menotume | well, yes :) |
| 04:23.54 | brlcad | yes and no -- wiki is great for collaborative editing, but is not good for revision control, authoritative access, nice look, interface |
| 04:24.00 | menotume | just trying to give him something to do - to keep him busy:) |
| 04:25.15 | brlcad | it should be possible to wrap documentation content into a system that allows for editing (something like phpwiki modified for docbook backend) |
| 04:25.41 | menotume | oooo, yes, nice |
| 04:25.52 | brlcad | then the entire website could be community driven, and controlled by dev access similar to patches |
| 04:26.11 | bryjen | the wiki stuffs in the cvs tho, right? |
| 04:26.17 | brlcad | have a nightly cron job post the cvs docs to the main site |
| 04:26.36 | brlcad | wiki stuff could be commited to cvs |
| 04:27.24 | brlcad | wiki would/could probably be a checkout that gets edited in place -- then any authorized could commit the changes to cvs either via web interface or directly |
| 04:28.55 | menotume | It's getting late here ... g'nite all |
| 04:29.05 | brlcad | once that were done, we'd have a relatively automatic user manual, website, strategy guides, and a move towards single-location option and flag management |
| 04:29.19 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (7 files in 4 dirs): moved getCacheDirectoryName() from playing.cxx into game/ |
| 04:29.21 | trepan | wish i had a windows box just for compiling |
| 04:29.27 | patlabor221 | it's ok we can fix |
| 04:29.45 | brlcad | trepan: you can have access to a mac os x box, if it'll help |
| 04:30.00 | trepan | compiler farm on SF? |
| 04:30.05 | *** part/#bzflag menotume (~menotume@pcp08396790pcs.cnclrk01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 04:30.07 | brlcad | no, but that would work too :) |
| 04:30.42 | brlcad | hrm.. menotume's in PA .. late for him means it should be late for me .. eek |
| 04:30.43 | trepan | it's slow as hell, and probably doesn't have the neccesary libs for BZ |
| 04:31.20 | brlcad | if it's a mac os x box, it'll have the necessary libs |
| 04:31.57 | brlcad | we don't use any that apple doesn't provide standard |
| 04:33.07 | *** join/#bzflag mebigfatguy (MAC@balt-209-150-116-75.dynamic-dial.qis.net) |
| 04:33.10 | brlcad | trepan: what is slow to you? :) |
| 04:33.11 | trepan | well then, if they'd just put a VNC connection to a windows box at the SF compiler farm too, i'd be set :) |
| 04:33.20 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/win32/VC6/game.dsp: new files |
| 04:33.28 | DTRemenak | compiles fine |
| 04:33.47 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 04:33.54 | trepan | there's still mingw and mac to blow up yet... |
| 04:34.03 | brlcad | hi mebigfatguy! |
| 04:34.07 | DTRemenak | mingw is chewing on it |
| 04:34.15 | trepan | ...and the hundred or so other unixes |
| 04:34.34 | mebigfatguy | howdy burly |
| 04:36.11 | brlcad | mebigfatguy: you see the beautiful light show last night? |
| 04:36.29 | mebigfatguy | heh, ours came much later than yours i think |
| 04:36.36 | mebigfatguy | we didn't get hit till 3am or so |
| 04:36.46 | brlcad | heh, oh :) |
| 04:36.58 | mebigfatguy | wifeepoo says i slept thru it |
| 04:37.01 | mebigfatguy | :) |
| 04:37.05 | brlcad | aww :) |
| 04:37.26 | brlcad | was around midnight here when it started -- lots of pretty |
| 04:39.53 | lurgyman | yay up |
| 04:41.16 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/game.vcproj: follow along with the masses |
| 04:52.51 | *** join/#bzflag bandito (~cdceed94@procyon.noodleroni.com) |
| 04:53.09 | DTRemenak | trepan: fwiw, mingw is also fine |
| 04:53.18 | bandito | ibot: seen Grumbler |
| 04:53.20 | ibot | grumbler <~Grumbler@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 9h 13m 9s ago, saying: 'now there would be a feature............a way for an admin to upload a new map'. |
| 04:53.27 | bandito | sman |
| 04:54.44 | trepan | DTRemenak: don't know what fwiw is, but i like it anyways |
| 04:54.55 | DTRemenak | sorry, "for what it's worth" |
| 04:55.16 | trepan | heh, makes more sense then what I thought "from what I'm witnessing" |
| 04:56.09 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 04:56.35 | bryjen | wow. that bzflag is in this document http://www.nipc.gov/cybernotes/2003/cyberissue2003-11.pdf |
| 04:58.33 | *** join/#bzflag |tim| (quagmire@cpe-66-75-198-229.bak.rr.com) |
| 05:02.55 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/AutoPilot.cxx: Otto works on his destuckiness (tm) algorithm |
| 05:05.35 | brlcad | trepan: almost |
| 05:05.41 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/GetCacheDir.h: interface uses std::string |
| 05:07.12 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: yay.. core services is no longer needed here |
| 05:07.39 | mebigfatguy | tackling the tough problems, eh, brlcad? |
| 05:08.06 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CaptureReplay.cxx: we need types and stat too for mkdir() |
| 05:08.15 | mebigfatguy | wondering onto the prots turf, no? |
| 05:08.32 | mebigfatguy | er wandering |
| 05:08.48 | lurgyman | no, wondering |
| 05:08.49 | lurgyman | :) |
| 05:09.25 | brlcad | prots? cappy? |
| 05:09.39 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/game/GetCacheDir.cxx: drag the dirty apple header from playing.cxx for carbonese |
| 05:09.54 | brlcad | yep.. tough problem there ;) |
| 05:10.01 | mebigfatguy | yes prots = proton |
| 05:10.44 | lurgyman | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.20 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 05:11.21 | lurgyman | chips |
| 05:12.39 | lurgyman | it's like teaching medicine to a baldwin |
| 05:13.00 | brlcad | MMm.. chips |
| 05:13.16 | brlcad | More like teaching a monkey to smoke |
| 05:13.25 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@c-24-1-104-25.client.comcast.net) |
| 05:14.04 | lurgyman | yay monkey |
| 05:14.09 | lurgyman | er |
| 05:14.09 | lurgyman | hi TimRiker |
| 05:14.22 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:14.54 | brlcad | howdy TimRiker and welcome back |
| 05:14.57 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 05:15.29 | brlcad | list server didn't crash once afaik .. momentous occasion, a first I think :) |
| 05:15.34 | TimRiker | Austin, TX. At least it has hills unlike Dallas. and more trees too. |
| 05:16.27 | TimRiker | brlcad, heh. I found and fixed the DNS bug. the secondarty servers were having issues writing to the same file for bzflag.org and .com |
| 05:16.43 | brlcad | Hrm.. hills in TX .. you sure they'd be considered hills in other states? :) |
| 05:16.47 | TimRiker | primary is fine with it, but backups are not. |
| 05:17.02 | brlcad | sweet |
| 05:17.10 | TimRiker | brlcad, well.. something other than flat fields. |
| 05:17.32 | TimRiker | I would not call them hills if I weren't living in Dallas. ;-) |
| 05:18.05 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~tuckerm@adsl-67-38-176-22.dsl.kntpin.ameritech.net) |
| 05:18.57 | mebigfatguy | lumps |
| 05:21.38 | brlcad | TimRiker: are you up for a 1.10.6 release soon? |
| 05:21.58 | brlcad | s/up for/agreeable to/ |
| 05:21.59 | SportChick | doing an updated 1.10? not waiting for 1.12? |
| 05:22.49 | brlcad | Well, we need to push out an update that fixes the build on OS X for an article |
| 05:23.23 | gonkulator | ooh, its mebigfatguy |
| 05:23.26 | brlcad | I posted a 1.10.5, but there needs to be a 1.10.6 or a re-release of 1.10.5 |
| 05:23.34 | mebigfatguy | its the lurker |
| 05:24.04 | purple_cow | if we push out releases, they should be proper :P |
| 05:24.11 | mebigfatguy | brlcad, aren't there network changes making a .6 improper? |
| 05:24.24 | brlcad | network changes? |
| 05:24.29 | purple_cow | mebigfatguy: not in the 1.10 branch |
| 05:24.33 | mebigfatguy | well the replay stuff for one |
| 05:24.36 | mebigfatguy | purple_cow: oh, ok |
| 05:24.44 | brlcad | purple_cow: I agree, but getting everyone to push out a .6 was harder than fixing the build for the article |
| 05:25.10 | purple_cow | brlcad: but there were problems with people trying to build your little "release" |
| 05:25.22 | brlcad | I needed a working build within a couple hours or the article would not have made it |
| 05:25.57 | brlcad | yeah, I heard -- i can rerelease now.. silly me to assume they'd keep their build functional ;) (just like the os x one during 1.10.4 release) |
| 05:26.32 | purple_cow | i don't think there's any reason to not test builds, tag & release |
| 05:26.53 | purple_cow | there's not really any feature enhancements, so it won't be a terribly important release |
| 05:27.00 | mebigfatguy | oooh the dreaded 't' word |
| 05:27.12 | brlcad | SSssshhh.. Chestal's sleeping |
| 05:27.24 | purple_cow | but that's what a "maintenance branch" is for :) |
| 05:27.35 | brlcad | I quite agree |
| 05:28.20 | brlcad | maybe this weekend or next 1.10.6 can go out |
| 05:31.12 | trepan | brlcad: any functional changes between 1.10.4 and 1.10.6 (besides the builds working?) |
| 05:31.26 | brlcad | The article still unfortunately refers to the specificly dated 1.10.5 file .. but if there's a 1.10.6, it shouldn't be too bad |
| 05:32.01 | purple_cow | can't they do a quick edit? :P |
| 05:32.14 | brlcad | I don't know.. I can ask |
| 05:32.21 | mebigfatguy | www.americaneedsdirt.com |
| 05:33.47 | brlcad | trepan: a little |
| 05:34.24 | mebigfatguy | i like the dirt game, myself |
| 05:34.24 | brlcad | there are hostmask bans, and windows support for filtering, and some minor bot behavior fixes |
| 05:34.49 | bryjen | i once saw a sign "Dirt for sale". In the middle of a bare field. Figgured it was a dirt farm. |
| 05:35.17 | mebigfatguy | i wonder at what point the dirt is no longer yours |
| 05:35.24 | mebigfatguy | and you have to stop selling it |
| 05:36.43 | mebigfatguy | you can eat anything you find |
| 05:36.52 | *** join/#bzflag brlcad (~morrison@pcp05887281pcs.aberdn01.md.comcast.net) |
| 05:39.24 | brlcad | MMmmm.. poppycock is great |
| 05:39.45 | bryjen | at the risk of going too far |
| 05:39.49 | bryjen | ~dict poppycock |
| 05:40.03 | brlcad | ~google poppycock |
| 05:40.12 | bryjen | and he has to go elsewhere for that? ;) |
| 05:40.23 | mebigfatguy | ibot, poppycock? |
| 05:40.24 | ibot | a popcorny-nutty candy not unlike crackerjack |
| 05:40.37 | mebigfatguy | ~botsnack |
| 05:40.37 | ibot | thanks, mebigfatguy |
| 05:40.48 | brlcad | like crackerjack?! it's WAY better than that ;) |
| 05:41.15 | mebigfatguy | what does ibot know about food |
| 05:41.15 | brlcad | I want to try the cashew ones .. only tried original and pecan |
| 05:41.28 | mebigfatguy | i got a box in the kitchen |
| 05:41.36 | mebigfatguy | but went for the pecan |
| 05:45.05 | mebigfatguy | so is replay working now? and how does one invoke it? |
| 05:45.16 | brlcad | let me know when you find out |
| 05:45.36 | mebigfatguy | its trepan's baby right? |
| 05:45.43 | brlcad | righto |
| 05:45.51 | trepan | huh? |
| 05:46.01 | brlcad | there he is |
| 05:46.11 | mebigfatguy | see question above |
| 05:46.13 | trepan | want me to touch up the bzfs man page or something? |
| 05:46.28 | brlcad | something :) |
| 05:46.31 | mebigfatguy | would be good |
| 05:47.02 | trepan | the online help isn't too bad... just try /capture or /replay with admin privs |
| 05:47.55 | *** part/#bzflag brlcad (~morrison@pcp05887281pcs.aberdn01.md.comcast.net) |
| 05:48.41 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 05:49.18 | trepan | mebigfatguy: replay has been working for a couple of days, but hasn't been tested on a windows box yet |
| 05:50.00 | bryjen | err, /capture sounds like something else |
| 05:50.45 | trepan | well, if they think that'll get them somewhere, let 'em try |
| 05:50.51 | bryjen | heh |
| 05:50.53 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.17 | mebigfatguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.20 | mebigfatguy | ? |
| 05:51.30 | trepan | followed by: You do not have permission to run the /capture command |
| 05:51.32 | bryjen | "No permission to capture on this server" |
| 05:51.57 | trepan | there are two types of captures |
| 05:52.00 | trepan | file and buffer |
| 05:52.10 | trepan | for buffered: /capture start |
| 05:52.20 | trepan | for straight to file: /capture file <filename> |
| 05:52.29 | mebigfatguy | i get 'no buffer to save' |
| 05:52.34 | TimRiker | I have nothing against a .6 release. I would like to see us move to a 1.12 release soon though. line in the next month. |
| 05:52.42 | trepan | you have to /capture start first |
| 05:52.46 | mebigfatguy | ah |
| 05:53.23 | trepan | the buffered version should be good for admin'ing, tell it to keep 8 Mbytes in the background, and just dump whenever someone is being an idiot |
| 05:54.42 | TimRiker | s/line/like/ |
| 05:54.50 | mebigfatguy | listfiles doesn't work on win32 yet :) |
| 05:55.05 | trepan | nope |
| 05:55.23 | trepan | but it's nice enough to tell ya ;) |
| 05:55.29 | mebigfatguy | how do you replay ? |
| 05:55.48 | TimRiker | brlcad left... ah well. we should be sure that the 1.11 stuff builds ok. ;-) |
| 05:55.50 | trepan | start up a server with the same map/config, but with the -replay command line switch |
| 05:55.50 | mebigfatguy | 'not in replay mode' |
| 05:55.59 | mebigfatguy | ah |
| 05:56.05 | mebigfatguy | so you can't replay a random map? |
| 05:56.29 | trepan | you will be able to, i'm just now adding the whole world database into the capture file |
| 05:56.36 | mebigfatguy | coo |
| 05:56.41 | TimRiker | well, time to sleep. hasta manana |
| 05:56.45 | mebigfatguy | where are the files saved? |
| 05:57.06 | trepan | right now, into .\bzreplay directory |
| 05:57.16 | trepan | that's getting fixed tonight too (for windows) |
| 05:57.28 | trepan | it will have make the directory for ya |
| 05:58.07 | mebigfatguy | on the bzfs machine i assume? |
| 05:58.14 | trepan | yup, it's all server side |
| 05:58.38 | trepan | only a very small change to the client side (MsgReplayReset) |
| 05:59.22 | trepan | any luck loading a file? |
| 06:03.28 | mebigfatguy | hold on |
| 06:03.47 | trepan | ? |
| 06:06.36 | mebigfatguy | yay, seems to work |
| 06:06.50 | mebigfatguy | altho i used a random map, so tankers are driving thru buildings as expected |
| 06:07.40 | trepan | very cool, win works |
| 06:07.40 | mebigfatguy | prolly need to add qualifyDir(ReplayDir) call |
| 06:07.40 | mebigfatguy | or something, to put files in the appropriate place on windoz |
| 06:07.46 | mebigfatguy | under MyBzflag Files |
| 06:08.05 | trepan | that's why I just move the stuff into GetCacheDir.cxx |
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| 06:08.11 | trepan | from playing.cxx |
| 06:08.15 | mebigfatguy | ah |
| 06:08.20 | mebigfatguy | pretty nifty |
| 06:08.38 | mebigfatguy | are player messages recorded? |
| 06:09.01 | trepan | yup, added that today, as well as IP notification messages |
| 06:09.06 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 06:09.16 | trepan | but they're tagged as hidden, and not replayed |
| 06:09.28 | mebigfatguy | only public messages i assume |
| 06:09.37 | mebigfatguy | as team/private messages have no receiver |
| 06:09.54 | trepan | ya, only public messages are replayed |
| 06:09.59 | mebigfatguy | coo |
| 06:10.26 | mebigfatguy | pretty nifty |
| 06:10.26 | trepan | i'm gonna write a little tool to help search through the capture files for admins |
| 06:10.26 | trepan | search for IPs, user messages, etc... |
| 06:10.58 | mebigfatguy | file is binary? |
| 06:11.14 | trepan | yup, but network byte order, so should work anywhere |
| 06:11.50 | trepan | if I can emulate gettimeofday() for windows, it'll also have the correct dates on each packet |
| 06:12.08 | trepan | right now, windows is saving with offset timestamps |
| 06:12.38 | trepan | ... and will roll over every 50 days or so |
| 06:13.25 | mebigfatguy | GetLocalTime? |
| 06:14.10 | trepan | hmmm, has milliseconds, that might be the ticket, thx |
| 06:14.51 | mebigfatguy | that includes timezone offset |
| 06:15.00 | mebigfatguy | GetSystemTime does not |
| 06:16.10 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 06:18.07 | mebigfatguy | add a 'To' |
| 06:18.09 | mebigfatguy | :) |
| 06:19.31 | trepan | one sec, it looks like it only updated periodically with the 'SystemClock', with 55ms type resolution |
| 06:19.40 | mebigfatguy | could be |
| 06:20.28 | trepan | ick, maybe I can add some state around timeGetTime() and make that work |
| 06:20.47 | mebigfatguy | there are hi freq timers |
| 06:20.58 | mebigfatguy | you could add to some base start time |
| 06:21.18 | trepan | it's the roll-overs that i'll have to watch out for |
| 06:21.38 | trepan | GetSystemTimeAsFileTime() looks like the call I'd use if SystemTime worked out |
| 06:22.43 | trepan | oh, my bad, you already said it, there is a SystemTimeToFileTime(), heh |
| 06:22.52 | mebigfatguy | yup |
| 06:22.54 | mebigfatguy | and vice-versa :) |
| 06:23.28 | trepan | why couldn't that just have implement a tried and true gettimeofday() :( |
| 06:24.50 | trepan | s/that/they s/implement/implemented |
| 06:24.53 | trepan | time for a break |
| 06:26.24 | mebigfatguy | QueryPerformanceCounter |
| 06:27.04 | trepan | they use timeGetTime() as a backup in TimeKeeper, and it isn't based on the Epoch |
| 06:29.44 | trepan | 2:30am jog, ain't nothing finer |
| 06:34.06 | mebigfatguy | ug |
| 06:36.34 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: add -replay bzfs -help, and order options alfabetaly |
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| 07:23.17 | bomber | moin |
| 07:56.15 | Pimpinella | moin bomber |
| 07:56.38 | Pimpinella | oops, schon wieder weg? |
| 07:57.52 | trepan | moin yall |
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| 08:23.33 | TheDSamurai | hey pps |
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| 08:24.01 | TheDSamurai | hey dude |
| 08:24.57 | TheDarkSamurai | ~seen rusfus |
| 08:24.57 | ibot | TheDarkSamurai: i haven't seen 'rusfus' |
| 08:25.06 | Pimpinella | hey tds |
| 08:25.22 | Pimpinella | who is rusfus? |
| 08:26.50 | TheDarkSamurai | ~rufus |
| 08:26.55 | TheDarkSamurai | ~seen rufus] |
| 08:26.56 | ibot | TheDarkSamurai: i haven't seen 'rufus]' |
| 08:27.03 | TheDarkSamurai | ~seen rufus |
| 08:27.04 | ibot | rufus <~cymraeg@dhcp-0-50-da-80-ef-b2.cpe.cabletv.on.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 65d 1h 1m 6s ago, saying: ' '. |
| 08:27.22 | TheDarkSamurai | ~seen rufus |
| 08:27.23 | ibot | rufus <~cymraeg@dhcp-0-50-da-80-ef-b2.cpe.cabletv.on.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 65d 1h 1m 25s ago, saying: ' '. |
| 08:27.32 | TheDarkSamurai | sry just wessing |
| 08:28.28 | TheDarkSamurai | messing* |
| 08:28.33 | TheDarkSamurai | hey pimp |
| 08:28.46 | Pimpinella | :) |
| 08:29.10 | TheDarkSamurai | sry typing fast in an prcatice bis com exam |
| 08:31.59 | TheDarkSamurai | so wot you up to then pimp? |
| 08:32.36 | Pimpinella | nothing, just messing around with trepans new capture/replay feature |
| 08:32.55 | TheDarkSamurai | heh wots that? never heard of it |
| 08:33.29 | Pimpinella | u can capture bzflag gameplay and replay it later |
| 08:33.39 | Pimpinella | and watch it as an observer |
| 08:33.53 | trepan | Pimpinella, working well for ya? |
| 08:34.16 | trepan | or, well enough... :) |
| 08:34.26 | Pimpinella | just begun, whats the /capture <file> for? |
| 08:34.36 | trepan | there are two types of captures |
| 08:34.42 | trepan | 1. capture straight to a file |
| 08:34.55 | trepan | 2. use the memory buffer, and only capture what's in the memory |
| 08:35.09 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.27 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.35 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.40 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 08:35.42 | trepan | ...phew, lotta typing |
| 08:35.46 | Pimpinella | :) |
| 08:35.53 | trepan | brlcad was right, i've gotta put that into a document |
| 08:36.04 | TheDarkSamurai | so exacly how (if i was at home) would i access it? |
| 08:36.22 | trepan | you start a bzfs server with '-replay' |
| 08:36.28 | trepan | and then log into it as admin |
| 08:36.34 | trepan | and then: |
| 08:36.41 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.44 | Pimpinella | get the real latest HEAD stuff first ;) |
| 08:36.46 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.50 | Pimpinella | sry trepan.. |
| 08:37.04 | trepan | np ;) i think you answred the right question |
| 08:37.10 | trepan | i went off on a tangent |
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| 08:37.36 | bomber | re |
| 08:37.42 | trepan | er |
| 08:37.59 | Pimpinella | heh |
| 08:38.46 | TheDarkSamurai | lol |
| 08:38.49 | Pimpinella | TheDarkSamurai: nedd to checkout cvs and build ur copy |
| 08:39.08 | TDS_B | huh pimp? |
| 08:39.23 | Pimpinella | to get that capture/replay stuff |
| 08:40.28 | TDS_B | oh well forget all that until tomorrow. i am out all nite with me gf |
| 08:41.57 | TDS_B | hehehe |
| 08:42.06 | Pimpinella | greetings to ur gf |
| 08:42.27 | Pimpinella | have a nice time |
| 08:42.37 | TDS_B | i am sure i will |
| 08:43.52 | TDS_B | simple night out for me and then back for a film |
| 08:43.53 | Pimpinella | lucky dog isnt here, gf might have been to hot for him... |
| 08:44.03 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 08:45.05 | TDS_B | lol |
| 08:45.28 | TDS_B | crap teachers coming round |
| 08:45.35 | TDS_B | or not |
| 08:47.08 | Pimpinella | anyone can tell me about a good filesharingsystem with linux client? |
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| 08:47.43 | Pimpinella | anyone can tell me about a good filesharingsystem with linux client? |
| 08:47.57 | Pimpinella | oops |
| 08:49.07 | trepan | i've used gtk-gnutella on occasion, bittorrent, and xmule |
| 08:49.22 | Pimpinella | tnx trepan |
| 08:49.25 | trepan | for e-docs, naturally |
| 08:49.32 | TheDarkSamurai | sry bout that teacher came round to quickly |
| 08:49.53 | purple_cow | shouldn't you be paying attention in class? |
| 08:50.26 | trepan | purple_cow: did you? |
| 08:51.05 | purple_cow | some of 'em ;) |
| 08:51.06 | Pimpinella | my daughter just pulled out the whole tape out of her favourite music casette, think i need to find it on the internet... |
| 08:51.18 | trepan | if the teacher was hot, i was attentive |
| 08:52.06 | purple_cow | Pimpinella: if the tape isn't mashed up, it may be possible to wind it back onto the spools |
| 08:52.21 | Pimpinella | totally masbed up :( |
| 08:52.39 | purple_cow | heh, i didn't have any hot teachers this semester |
| 08:52.46 | purple_cow | a couple of ones who actually knew what they were talking about |
| 08:52.48 | purple_cow | which was nice |
| 08:53.14 | trepan | purple_cow: univ.? |
| 08:53.26 | purple_cow | yup |
| 08:54.08 | trepan | i always hated getting teachers who were incredibly smart, but who couldn't teach |
| 08:54.32 | trepan | that, and the ones who made us shill out $200 for a copy of their book for a one term course |
| 08:54.40 | TheDarkSamurai | i gtg to maths in a sec so ill be back on tomorrow. too much work to go on tonight |
| 08:54.43 | TheDarkSamurai | so cya guys |
| 08:55.03 | trepan | ciao TDS |
| 08:56.21 | bomber | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.43 | trepan | whatcha teach? |
| 08:57.39 | purple_cow | i've had a lot that were probably very good at their research but were crappy teachers |
| 08:57.44 | purple_cow | got lucky this semester |
| 08:58.03 | bomber | and my students are too lazy ....lol |
| 08:58.33 | trepan | i was usually too hung-over, i worked plenty hard at drinkin |
| 08:58.49 | bomber | :o) |
| 08:59.30 | trepan | i remember one midterm, the entire class (pretty much), was in the local bar until 4am the night before |
| 08:59.44 | purple_cow | eek |
| 08:59.45 | trepan | class average was below 50, so it got marked on a curve |
| 08:59.52 | trepan | gotta like the curve sometimes |
| 09:00.04 | purple_cow | worst i've seen was a few folks in the lab with a handle of vodka working on their stuff |
| 09:00.39 | trepan | hehe, or out back with a joint just before lab |
| 09:00.59 | bomber | last semester were students better...they cooked cake for us... |
| 09:01.16 | trepan | and then they expound on the inner beauty of electricity |
| 09:01.32 | bomber | lol |
| 09:01.34 | trepan | chocolate? that's worth at least 5% |
| 09:02.14 | trepan | had a friend who's dad was an english prof, and i watched him mark papers once |
| 09:02.29 | trepan | he had a short-skirt pile, and an 'other' pile |
| 09:02.33 | bomber | you know....i have 1 student ...he run scared from current and electricity |
| 09:02.50 | bomber | voltage about 2V |
| 09:02.56 | bomber | lol |
| 09:03.54 | trepan | it didddn'tt hhaaave any illl efffects |
| 09:03.55 | Pimpinella | i sometimed get hit with 5kV |
| 09:04.02 | bomber | sure? |
| 09:04.25 | Pimpinella | sure, electric fence |
| 09:04.35 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 09:04.44 | trepan | they got current limiting built in, i think/hope |
| 09:05.15 | purple_cow | worst i've ever done was about 600 off a multiplier :) |
| 09:06.49 | purple_cow | current was pretty low by that point, but it certainly woke me up |
| 09:06.52 | bomber | one of friends has computer and wrong joined ground wire....he has 220V on box....he told me, he worked more efficiently when he touched the box for a while...lol |
| 09:07.20 | purple_cow | and on that note, it's late and time for bed |
| 09:07.21 | purple_cow | 'night folks |
| 09:07.25 | Pimpinella | 5kV, but only 0,000...A |
| 09:07.29 | trepan | cya purple_cow |
| 09:07.29 | bomber | night |
| 09:07.49 | trepan | s/for/before |
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| 09:42.05 | thrag | does anyone have a banned word list - a URL for obtaining one, please? i had a whole bunch of people leave a game because two people decided to get stupid. |
| 09:47.00 | Pimpinella | hm iirc such a multi-lingual list should come w/ the sources? |
| 09:48.11 | Pimpinella | let me c |
| 09:48.59 | Pimpinella | thrag: found it, could ddc |
| 09:50.51 | gonkulator | Pimpinella: long time no see |
| 09:51.37 | Pimpinella | hm, i hav been here |
| 09:51.45 | Pimpinella | almost always... |
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| 10:46.30 | thrag | ah ha! thank you. |
| 10:49.39 | thrag | uhm.... where abouts is it? find . -name "ban*" shows nothing obvious |
| 10:50.36 | thrag | hey cool, a file popup from irc! |
| 10:51.01 | thrag | click... click... uhmm.... |
| 10:51.17 | Pimpinella | hm? |
| 10:51.19 | thrag | click some more... |
| 10:51.34 | thrag | i'm clicking on accept, it not going through... |
| 10:52.12 | thrag | forced to close the popup: xchat doesn't appear to like files, try again? |
| 10:52.23 | Pimpinella | k |
| 10:52.31 | thrag | wheee |
| 10:53.35 | Pimpinella | u should hav it now |
| 10:53.48 | thrag | stupid user-interface, you have to click on the filename in the dialog box, it's not highlighted by default :) |
| 10:54.37 | Pimpinella | iirc u have to save the file at a location of your choice noe |
| 10:54.51 | Pimpinella | s/noe/now |
| 10:55.00 | thrag | nah, this is a _dumb_ irc x-windows client :) |
| 10:55.13 | Pimpinella | i like it... |
| 10:55.24 | thrag | how to learn how to swear in a dozen languages... |
| 10:57.02 | Pimpinella | but u got it now? |
| 10:59.51 | thrag | yep. |
| 11:00.33 | Pimpinella | killall bzfs |
| 11:00.41 | Pimpinella | grr |
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| 11:47.04 | Cortana | New news from matches: May 11 11:39 => The Dark Side:11, Donjon's Ugly Beasts (DUB):1 |
| 11:59.54 | Pimpinella | heh, what happend to us? |
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| 12:18.25 | bomber | re |
| 12:19.22 | Pimpinella | Bock |
| 12:30.12 | brlcad | The community that is known as IRC is the current topic of the latest slashdot poll |
| 12:34.22 | Pimpinella | Is IRC anything like AIM? |
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| 14:58.37 | Grumbler | ~gmm |
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| 15:01.32 | SportChick | ~secretplace |
| 15:04.12 | Grumbler | morin SportChick |
| 15:04.19 | SportChick | morning grumbler |
| 15:05.53 | Grumbler | ~bzflist |
| 15:07.47 | Grumbler | SportChick: how is the hunt for a car going? |
| 15:09.40 | SportChick | oh, we bought one! :) |
| 15:11.03 | Grumbler | ...and....it .....is a ......./???? |
| 15:12.13 | SportChick | http://www.kirkanddonna.com/kirk/liberty/ |
| 15:14.22 | Grumbler | pretty swank, what kind of gas mileage does it get |
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| 15:16.30 | SportChick | well, so far, it's around 16 or so |
| 15:16.34 | brlcad_ | eek |
| 15:16.39 | SportChick | but we haven't gone on any long trips |
| 15:16.51 | SportChick | we have the full on big engine... V6, selectable 4WD |
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| 15:22.16 | Grumbler | 16 isnt actually that bad for a jeep product, especially with the V6................jeep concentrates on torque. |
| 15:22.33 | Grumbler | I would think you could get 18-20 on the highway |
| 15:23.48 | SportChick | yeah, I think on the highway, we get between 19-25. |
| 15:24.10 | fiberchunks | nice little ride :) |
| 15:24.20 | SportChick | we did a couple of quick runs down the highway over the weekend and it was pretty good. |
| 15:24.23 | SportChick | Thanks, chunky |
| 15:24.26 | SportChick | I LOVE it |
| 15:24.44 | SportChick | it met all of our "qualifications" for making the car buyable |
| 15:24.52 | SportChick | AND we got a decent price on it |
| 15:27.46 | SportChick | check out THIS liberty: http://www.kjjeep.com/ Be sure to read the caption |
| 15:36.57 | Grumbler | ok, i see a lot of pics of jeeps getting into impressive situatuions, but i never see them get out :) |
| 15:37.15 | DeathBarrel-Work | yay! i love quarterly bonuses :) |
| 15:37.46 | SportChick | heh...I meant the one on the front page... |
| 15:37.54 | SportChick | with the jeep that is completely crunched |
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| 16:04.59 | fiberchunks | I know i've asked before, but I seem to have misplaced my links collection :\ So far i've got: computerjobs.com, dice.com, hotjobs.com, monster.com, ajcjobs.com -- any others that you all are familiar with? |
| 16:08.50 | Nidhoggr | might try www.jobing.com |
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| 16:10.56 | fiberchunks | thanks |
| 16:11.52 | fiberchunks | mmm, doesn't cover atlanta |
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| 16:25.27 | orange | fiberchunks, you live in atl? |
| 16:25.52 | fiberchunks | no, i want to move to atlanta |
| 16:25.57 | orange | ah, cool :-) |
| 16:26.00 | fiberchunks | or thereabouts |
| 16:26.03 | orange | I live "in" atlanta |
| 16:26.11 | fiberchunks | downtown? |
| 16:26.21 | orange | heh, no, 40 miles from the center of town |
| 16:26.27 | fiberchunks | what county |
| 16:26.34 | orange | forsyth... near Lake Lanier |
| 16:26.46 | fiberchunks | ooo, that's one of the areas I'm looking at |
| 16:26.56 | fiberchunks | mostly between 85 and 75 above 285 |
| 16:27.02 | orange | it's nice out here... fast growing though |
| 16:27.27 | fiberchunks | you have kids? I'm wondering what the good school systems are |
| 16:27.29 | orange | well, unless you have big bucks you'll be out towards my area... anything closer goes up in price drastically |
| 16:27.36 | fiberchunks | i know cobb county's good, etc |
| 16:28.00 | orange | I have two kids, 6 and 4, but they're in a private not-for-profit school (at which my wife teaches, and I'm on the board :-) |
| 16:28.07 | fiberchunks | was also looking at cherokee county and smyrna area |
| 16:28.11 | fiberchunks | lucky dog |
| 16:28.28 | orange | there are some good schools in cobb... but you can't touch the homes for a reasonable price |
| 16:28.33 | orange | (in the good school districts) |
| 16:28.33 | fiberchunks | indeed |
| 16:28.42 | orange | how old are your kids? |
| 16:28.48 | fiberchunks | 6 |
| 16:29.11 | orange | too old to start Montessori school with us :-) |
| 16:29.16 | fiberchunks | i have been told that the barrow/gwinnett regions are not that spectacular for schooling -- you think that's true? |
| 16:29.52 | fiberchunks | oh, and dekalb |
| 16:30.16 | orange | gwinnett is improving |
| 16:30.21 | orange | pretty fast, I think |
| 16:30.39 | orange | but school is what you make of it, in large part |
| 16:31.17 | fiberchunks | well, the reason I ask, is that snellville/loganville/conyers has some phenomenal homes for relatively cheap dollars |
| 16:31.17 | orange | good parent involvement and communication with teachers and administration is more than half the battle |
| 16:31.22 | fiberchunks | and I used to live in Winder |
| 16:31.32 | orange | where are you moving from? |
| 16:31.40 | fiberchunks | hehe, connecticut |
| 16:31.51 | orange | brr |
| 16:32.10 | fiberchunks | I love the cold, but I can't frickin afford anything here :\ |
| 16:32.27 | fiberchunks | your mugginess I must relearn to deal with :) |
| 16:32.57 | orange | I don't really know the east side that well... I lived in lawrenceville briefly |
| 16:33.07 | orange | heh, the humidity is a beast, for sure |
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| 16:33.23 | fiberchunks | one of my buddies lives in cumming |
| 16:33.36 | orange | oh yeah? That's where I live ... who is it? |
| 16:33.48 | orange | (I don't like to say that city name out loud in public irc channels :-) |
| 16:33.48 | fiberchunks | guy named matt meyer |
| 16:33.52 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 16:34.55 | orange | it's named after the cumming family, many of whom still live here |
| 16:35.06 | orange | but don't worry, everybody does anyway (add the 's') |
| 16:35.10 | orange | (unless they live here) |
| 16:35.11 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 16:35.35 | stibnite | there is a mineral named cummingtonite |
| 16:36.16 | fiberchunks | it's mostly now a question of logistics and resume rebuilding -- tossing it around and so on. Cumming seems like it's a bit far removed from atlanta perimeter, which is where I imagine most of my opportunities would come from |
| 16:36.26 | orange | tech job? |
| 16:36.33 | fiberchunks | hopefully :) |
| 16:36.38 | orange | (lucky guess :-) |
| 16:36.59 | orange | the north side is generally more techy anyway, and there's lots outside the perimeter |
| 16:37.15 | fiberchunks | ah, well that makes me happy :) |
| 16:37.15 | stibnite | hah |
| 16:37.16 | orange | what's your specialty? |
| 16:37.24 | fiberchunks | satellite communications |
| 16:37.29 | fiberchunks | military |
| 16:37.53 | orange | hmmm... have you looked at GTRI (georgia tech research institute)? |
| 16:38.01 | fiberchunks | QA/QC/Documentation, specifications, etc -- no coding regretfully (which is another reason for GA -- so I can go back and get my BSCS |
| 16:38.04 | orange | lots of military applications there, and plenty of satcom |
| 16:38.24 | fiberchunks | no i haven't -- but thanks very much for that bit of info ! :D |
| 16:38.31 | orange | it's government work, which means pay is not too high, but fairly stable |
| 16:39.05 | orange | and I think there are more military applications out in the cobb area near dobbins air force base in marietta |
| 16:39.14 | orange | so you may be better off out there |
| 16:39.53 | fiberchunks | yeah, that's one of the areas I was looking at for that precise reason. I don't want to stay in my current job (career change), but I figure I gotta get stable 'fore I can do anything else |
| 16:40.44 | orange | cool... well, I'm gonna grab a bite of lunch... give me a ping here if you're ever headed to atlanta, though you won't need a guide, sounds like :-) |
| 16:41.06 | fiberchunks | thanks -- can always catch a beer in buckhead when I'm in the neighborhood :) |
| 16:41.14 | orange | always :-) |
| 16:46.44 | fiberchunks | orange, thanks soooooooo much for the gtri link -- they have several opportunities I might be able to fill -- awesome stuff |
| 16:57.31 | DeathBarrel-Work | ~seen puffinator |
| 16:57.33 | ibot | puffinator <~jim@cpe-024-165-180-011.midsouth.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 10d 20h 41m 31s ago, saying: 'hi bluedragon'. |
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| 17:26.58 | Pimpinella | DeathBarrel-Work: u will find puffi as Jabberwocky on #bzleague |
| 17:28.05 | DeathBarrel-Work | ah! |
| 17:28.08 | DeathBarrel-Work | lol |
| 17:28.16 | DeathBarrel-Work | man i have been looking for him for days!! |
| 17:28.16 | DeathBarrel-Work | lol |
| 17:28.20 | DeathBarrel-Work | thx pimpi |
| 17:28.24 | Pimpinella | np |
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| 17:30.53 | orange | fiberchunks: glad to help... hope it works out! |
| 17:33.20 | Grumbler | ~gmm |
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| 17:37.42 | Tupone | hi Chikorita |
| 17:38.52 | Chikorita | hallo tupone |
| 17:39.14 | Chikorita | how r u? |
| 17:39.27 | Tupone | good |
| 17:39.36 | Tupone | u? |
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| 17:40.11 | Chikorita | good |
| 17:40.16 | strayer | hiho |
| 17:40.23 | Chikorita | hallo strayer |
| 17:40.35 | Chikorita | funny new toon u have on ur site =) |
| 17:40.35 | strayer | hi chicka |
| 17:41.29 | strayer | well..david_v was begging me to make a new one :) |
| 17:41.45 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 17:42.08 | Chikorita | who iz "my_cat" suppose to b ? jus wondering |
| 17:42.12 | strayer | but the following one he don't really like: http://test.strayer.de/pics/home-5.jpg |
| 17:42.20 | Chikorita | iz dat w339? |
| 17:42.23 | strayer | my_cat = your_dog |
| 17:42.28 | Chikorita | ooH LoL |
| 17:43.13 | strayer | I have a nice idea in mind for BeZee..but this is to much work...so I will (maybe) never realize it :) |
| 17:43.31 | Chikorita | heehe >:) |
| 17:44.09 | Chikorita | have u seen my toons b4? |
| 17:45.43 | Grumbler | afternoon Chikorita |
| 17:46.07 | Chikorita | hiya Grumbla |
| 17:46.15 | strayer | nope...can I see them anywhere? |
| 17:46.21 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 17:46.28 | Chikorita | http://bzbb.bzflag.org/download.php?id=249 |
| 17:46.42 | Chikorita | *snicka* |
| 17:47.06 | strayer | "Sorry but you are not authorized to view or download this Attachment" > i hate these links |
| 17:47.15 | Chikorita | aw |
| 17:47.35 | Chikorita | imma make a new toon ..one about Carny heehe |
| 17:47.41 | Chikorita | >:) |
| 17:47.50 | Grumbler | ouch Chikorita, that toon was from back in the day.............i have a NEW T-shirt now. |
| 17:47.56 | Chikorita | lol |
| 17:48.15 | Chikorita | iz it a carny h8r T-shirt? |
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| 17:48.25 | Chikorita | im sellin those >:) |
| 17:48.47 | Grumbler | i hate no one........(i just ban'em and keep the feelings out of it) |
| 17:49.01 | Chikorita | heh |
| 17:49.01 | strayer | I sae your comic...nice style :) |
| 17:49.06 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 17:49.11 | Chikorita | danke |
| 17:49.22 | strayer | bitteschön :) |
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| 17:50.00 | Chikorita | hi menoooo |
| 17:50.45 | Chikorita | brb too many PMs to juggle =P |
| 17:52.48 | strayer | treasured ckika..lol |
| 17:53.27 | menotume | sooooo populuh :) |
| 17:54.23 | strayer | jupp |
| 17:58.13 | Grumbler | evrybdy lvs dat spansh flavah |
| 17:59.08 | Grumbler | no, no, no, i can actually speak chikorita...........no...............must be all the lead in my house :) |
| 17:59.37 | menotume | lol Grumbler (and hi btw) |
| 17:59.45 | Grumbler | hey meno |
| 18:05.31 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldInfo.cxx: Fixing flag inside building |
| 18:08.55 | Chikorita_bizzy | bbl peeps |
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| 18:09.52 | trepan_away | any Mac devs sitting idle? got an easy question for yaz |
| 18:10.28 | trepan | hehe |
| 18:10.51 | trepan | where is the config file found on a Mac? |
| 18:11.02 | brlcad | same as linux |
| 18:11.45 | trepan | that was easy |
| 18:11.48 | brlcad | It's arguable as to where it "should" be, but presently it's the same |
| 18:11.51 | trepan | thx |
| 18:12.16 | trepan | i was just going through and getting anything under .bzf to use getConfigDirectoryName() |
| 18:12.45 | brlcad | if libcommon were fixed to generalize the dir finding, or if libgame had some facility, then it should probably be in ~/Library/Preferences/org.bzflag.BZFlag |
| 18:13.35 | trepan | that what i'm doing for libGame, you could customize to your liking |
| 18:13.46 | brlcad | meh, ~/.bzf/config works ;) |
| 18:13.59 | trepan | getConfigDirName(), getCacheDirName(), and getCaptureDirName() |
| 18:14.24 | trepan | i mistakenly called it getCacheDir.cxx yesterday... my bad |
| 18:15.13 | trepan | one sec, the it was bzflag19.bzc on a Mac? |
| 18:15.28 | trepan | #elif defined(macintosh) |
| 18:15.31 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.01 | trepan | or am i poking around in old code? |
| 18:17.48 | brlcad | old code |
| 18:18.12 | brlcad | the "macintosh" define is old crap that could probably be ripped out at this point |
| 18:18.21 | brlcad | that was pre mac os x stuff |
| 18:18.49 | brlcad | i think people have kept blindly modifying/updating the old sections just for posterity |
| 18:19.05 | brlcad | in case some poor sap really does want to run on system 7 |
| 18:19.21 | brlcad | go ahead and nix it ;) |
| 18:19.26 | trepan | so look for the __APPLE__ macro? |
| 18:20.17 | trepan | i'm getting tired of this OS crap, think i'll just add '-capturedir', and leave it at that :) |
| 18:20.36 | brlcad | that actually makes more sense to me :) |
| 18:20.49 | brlcad | I don't want/think captures should go in the config file dir |
| 18:21.10 | brlcad | same logic as screenshotting.. current dir |
| 18:21.13 | trepan | patlabor221 says windows should have it |
| 18:21.32 | trepan | screenshotting does current dir in windows? |
| 18:21.37 | brlcad | good question |
| 18:21.47 | trepan | good point on your part |
| 18:23.12 | brlcad | windows may be special, since they don't exactly have a concept of a current dir from the gui |
| 18:23.40 | PrezKennedy | its "very" special... |
| 18:23.44 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.44 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.02 | brlcad | heh, i wonder where that is :) |
| 18:24.04 | trepan | from clientCommands, no surrounding #ifdefs :) |
| 18:24.05 | brlcad | probably c:\ |
| 18:24.25 | brlcad | that should work for now |
| 18:24.26 | trepan | i've got precedence, take me to court |
| 18:25.02 | brlcad | when/if the dir hunting and describing ever gets properly refactored, it can get royally cleaned up |
| 18:25.46 | trepan | but not today, not by me :) thx again |
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| 18:41.57 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v1_10branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldInfo.cxx: Fixing flags inside building BUGS |
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| 19:25.17 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (10 files in 5 dirs): |
| 19:25.17 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: Switch everything over to use GetCacheDir.h for directory names. |
| 19:25.17 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: GetCacheDir.* should probably be changed to DirNames.* . |
| 19:34.42 | trepan | ack, Lag flag and capture are incompatible |
| 19:36.05 | trepan | well, not entirely, but if you're observing from a lagged player, it won't be representative |
| 19:37.55 | brlcad | if they are drawn differently, it should be okay -- just so people know |
| 19:41.08 | trepan | they aren't, lag flag just adds a lag to packets sent from the server |
| 19:41.54 | trepan | prolly no big deal, observing in a game won't show the effect either |
| 19:54.09 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Permissions.cxx: Only player with setPerms can add/remove to their groups |
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| 19:56.35 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v1_10branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: Only player with setPerms can add/remove to their groups |
| 20:03.20 | amathis101 | TimRiker, is it true that 1.11 will be ready when karma is coded? |
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| 20:07.43 | Tupone | hi DTRemenak |
| 20:10.53 | DTRemenak|QX | hi Tupone |
| 20:11.18 | Tupone | can you please check my changes :( |
| 20:12.06 | DTRemenak|QX | I am checking on mingw, need to wait to get home for vc |
| 20:12.26 | DTRemenak|QX | mingw just finished, clean |
| 20:12.39 | amathis101 | DTRemenak|QX , is it true that 1.11 will be ready when karma is coded? |
| 20:12.50 | trepan | TimRiker: have any problems with adding ReplayGameStyle as 0x0400? |
| 20:13.08 | DTRemenak|QX | amathis101, ask TimRiker |
| 20:13.10 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/data/l10n/bzflag_lt.po: from Rokas Masiulis <roma1390@uosis.mif.vu.lt> |
| 20:13.12 | Tupone | amathis101: you mean 1.12? |
| 20:13.21 | amathis101 | err yes. |
| 20:13.24 | trepan | TimRiker: (so those servers can be dispayed differently by the list server) |
| 20:15.24 | Patlabor221 | 1.11 is the dev versioning amathis101 all releases are to have even numbers |
| 20:17.28 | amathis101 | Patlabor221, so the only thing missin is? |
| 20:17.36 | Patlabor221 | dono ask tim |
| 20:17.40 | Patlabor221 | he's the bos |
| 20:17.47 | TimRiker | trepan_away: hmm. not sure that warrants a bit. Let's see if it gets used much first. |
| 20:18.09 | TimRiker | amathis101: still needs more testing, but it always needs testing. ;-) |
| 20:18.12 | Patlabor221 | I don't recall seeing a list of what was suposed to be in it, so can't say what is left |
| 20:18.15 | amathis101 | hmm... back to homework |
| 20:18.28 | amathis101 | TimRiker, excellent.. I cannot wat for the new release. |
| 20:18.31 | TimRiker | I'd like to see the karma system finished, we are very close, but then I've been saying that for ages. |
| 20:18.57 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: does it feel like a release to you? |
| 20:19.11 | Patlabor221 | dono, what's it suposed to have? |
| 20:19.19 | Patlabor221 | seems rather lite |
| 20:19.21 | Patlabor221 | feature wise |
| 20:19.35 | TimRiker | seems if we are changing the net compatibility (again) that adding karma is a good reason to force another change to all the users. |
| 20:19.47 | Patlabor221 | dono, haven't seen anyting on karma |
| 20:19.52 | Patlabor221 | it's a mystery to most of us |
| 20:20.12 | TimRiker | karma needs: |
| 20:20.24 | TimRiker | a) to generate tokens for the client |
| 20:20.40 | TimRiker | b) to have the servers authenticate those tokens on addPlayer. |
| 20:20.55 | TimRiker | the database is already there and the email registration is working. |
| 20:21.33 | amathis101 | TimRiker, is this going to make a simple game of bz, complicated? |
| 20:21.42 | Patlabor221 | the comment meant it seems to mostly be your deal, dosn't seem like many here are involved in it, or know the ideas you have in your head. |
| 20:21.47 | TimRiker | just need the token generation and verification added to bzfls.php and the client and server to use them. |
| 20:22.02 | Patlabor221 | we just know you said no new flags till karma was done, cus all other non karma work was not important |
| 20:22.20 | TimRiker | amathis101: no. you will still be able to join without registration. but some servers may require registration. |
| 20:22.27 | amathis101 | ahh.. |
| 20:22.47 | Tupone | TimRiker : where to register? |
| 20:23.00 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 20:23.02 | Patlabor221 | you said that |
| 20:23.09 | amathis101 | *front |
| 20:23.20 | TimRiker | we have enough flags. I don't hear any users saying "Gee, I'd love to play BZFlag, except there are not enough flags" |
| 20:23.36 | Patlabor221 | that is on opinion sure |
| 20:23.47 | Patlabor221 | but I concur with it |
| 20:23.48 | TimRiker | it is getting to the point where there are too many flags, as opposed to to few. |
| 20:23.54 | Tupone | email registration is working. where? |
| 20:24.04 | Patlabor221 | well I think difrent people want a difrent game then you envision |
| 20:24.10 | Patlabor221 | yet some want what you envision |
| 20:24.22 | Patlabor221 | there will allways be a rift of some sort, nature of humans :) |
| 20:24.28 | TimRiker | Tupone: you need to use the debug interface to the list server at present. it will would be built in to bzflag in the release. |
| 20:24.31 | amathis101 | TimRiker, I don't hear ppl asking for a karma system (that is my ears) and in my opinion, I think that Bz would be more popular if it incorperated some kool maps, other than block systems... |
| 20:24.45 | TimRiker | debug interface: http://db.bzflag.org/bzfls.php |
| 20:24.46 | Patlabor221 | I think for the most part the rest of us don't know what your doing on karma |
| 20:24.48 | amathis101 | blocks are quite boring |
| 20:24.52 | Patlabor221 | that they are |
| 20:25.20 | TimRiker | amathis101: true, but I expect you do hear people complaining about cheaters, right? |
| 20:25.33 | Patlabor221 | karma will not remove chating |
| 20:25.46 | Patlabor221 | who gives out posive karma? |
| 20:25.51 | Patlabor221 | anyone? |
| 20:25.56 | Patlabor221 | or trusted users? |
| 20:26.03 | amathis101 | TimRiker, yes, but how exactly is the karma system going to work? is it going to assign tokens to an ip? becuase a nick is disposable |
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| 20:26.20 | Patlabor221 | and you can't do by IP due to people on NAT |
| 20:26.20 | amathis101 | and who exactly _is_ trusted? |
| 20:26.28 | amathis101 | and LAN |
| 20:26.33 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: at this point we'll just have registration. then groups / clans / etc can be administered by whoever creates them. |
| 20:26.54 | Patlabor221 | so the karma system is just really a registration system right now? |
| 20:27.02 | Patlabor221 | a login server |
| 20:27.25 | Patlabor221 | for later karmic hooks :) |
| 20:27.31 | amathis101 | TimRiker, all the feuding in the league could easily cause ppl to give bad karma and abuse their power, and people ho run their own servers, should they be trusted? |
| 20:27.34 | TimRiker | that's the first step. then we will add the actual karma system. every can rank anyone else from like a +5 to -5 scale. |
| 20:28.02 | Patlabor221 | do those affect a persons ranking directly? |
| 20:28.10 | brlcad | TimRiker: is this regarding a 1.12 release or a 1.10.6 I'm all for the latter, I think we're several weeks away from prior |
| 20:28.17 | Patlabor221 | brlcad, 1.12 |
| 20:28.19 | TimRiker | and your rank influences the weight of the karma you give. your combined incoming karma plus things like total playing time, etc reaults in your rank. |
| 20:28.41 | Patlabor221 | so if I make a botfarm that just gives me positive karma what happens? |
| 20:28.54 | TimRiker | brlcad: talking about 1.12 at the moment. |
| 20:29.22 | amathis101 | TimRiker, it would easily be misused.. |
| 20:29.24 | TimRiker | .6 just needs multi-platform building to see that it's working, then I'm fine releaseing it. |
| 20:29.34 | amathis101 | IMHO |
| 20:29.34 | TimRiker | amathis101: not easily. |
| 20:29.51 | Patlabor221 | what if I make a server that has a buttload of registered bots? |
| 20:29.56 | amathis101 | TimRiker, could you not do like Patlabor221 said and prog bots to increase your kara |
| 20:29.58 | Patlabor221 | that just bump karma |
| 20:30.06 | brlcad | TimRiker: sounds good |
| 20:30.13 | TimRiker | see the info on http://advogato.org/ about why it can be designed to make hacking it tough. |
| 20:30.34 | brlcad | I don't think 1.12 is far off at all either .. I'd rather like to see the menu system tie into the user registration |
| 20:30.42 | brlcad | maybe squeze in user profiles |
| 20:30.42 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: those bots don't get in the "strong web" so they can't karma each other up. |
| 20:30.59 | Patlabor221 | who is on the strong web? |
| 20:31.08 | Patlabor221 | "trusted" people? |
| 20:31.13 | TimRiker | also every user needs a unique email, so creating a ton of fake users is a touch more challenging. |
| 20:31.22 | Patlabor221 | naw it's easaly automatated |
| 20:31.30 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: starts off seeded by the admins. |
| 20:31.31 | Patlabor221 | people bot flood message boards like mad now |
| 20:31.53 | Patlabor221 | ok so you have a rulling trusted group |
| 20:31.58 | Patlabor221 | how do people get added to it? |
| 20:32.05 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: note that I didn't say it could not be done. |
| 20:32.14 | Patlabor221 | that does make it more dificult |
| 20:32.26 | Patlabor221 | but then in the begining it's the same as the problems now, not enough admins on |
| 20:32.37 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: the goal is to get rid of the seeding as soon as possible and let the community police itself. |
| 20:32.39 | Patlabor221 | for the genreal public kama bumping is pointless |
| 20:32.57 | TimRiker | I hardly ever play these days, so I expect to be ousted myself. ;-) |
| 20:33.21 | brlcad | heck no.. people pretend to be you whilst playing at least once a week :) |
| 20:33.37 | TimRiker | when there are servers that are set to only allow the top 50% karma'd folks, then users will care about karma. |
| 20:33.54 | brlcad | you didn't know you play from california, germany, and florida too, did you? :) |
| 20:34.02 | TimRiker | brlcad: that won't work with the karma system unless they hack my password. |
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| 20:34.48 | Patlabor221 | that was oddly timed :) |
| 20:34.51 | Patlabor221 | peer must be right on my tail :) |
| 20:35.28 | TimRiker | perhaps your karma is too low? |
| 20:35.38 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 20:35.47 | TimRiker | the first integration of the karma system will not really be karma at all. |
| 20:35.53 | Patlabor221 | that I see |
| 20:36.02 | TimRiker | it'll be central users and groups. |
| 20:36.03 | Patlabor221 | I do think user registarion is a good thing |
| 20:36.04 | Patlabor221 | totaly |
| 20:36.10 | brlcad | what I think will make or break karma is how much the user will have to be made to deal with it -- incentives to register are one thing, automatically inferring karma through metrics is another .. both fine -- but once I need to actively "rank" my friends just for the sake of ranking them it can easily get cumbersome |
| 20:36.17 | Patlabor221 | tho I say why not use an existing method :) |
| 20:36.23 | TimRiker | like? |
| 20:36.26 | Patlabor221 | jabber |
| 20:36.34 | purple_cow | jabber has karma? |
| 20:36.40 | Patlabor221 | warnings |
| 20:36.49 | brlcad | "Honor" |
| 20:36.52 | Patlabor221 | it's just a difrent view of karma |
| 20:36.56 | brlcad | much better word for karma ;) |
| 20:37.03 | Patlabor221 | and you could put karma on top of it |
| 20:37.10 | Patlabor221 | then you'd get inter server communication too |
| 20:37.20 | Patlabor221 | and every client and server is now an IM client |
| 20:37.23 | brlcad | America's Army uses Honor as their karma metric |
| 20:37.26 | Patlabor221 | make AIM bridges and your good |
| 20:37.42 | Patlabor221 | admin a server from a cell phone :) |
| 20:37.50 | Nidhoggr | been there |
| 20:37.51 | amathis101 | make an onboard irc client. |
| 20:37.51 | Nidhoggr | done that |
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| 20:37.52 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 20:38.00 | Patlabor221 | Nidhoggr, without any software :) |
| 20:38.09 | TimRiker | brlcad: nod. The only thoughts I have there, are for a web based system that easily allows you to see all the ranks you have given, all your incoming ranks, and easily adjust outgoing ranks. |
| 20:38.13 | Patlabor221 | jabber has an IRC transport too |
| 20:38.51 | Patlabor221 | it allso can run SSL |
| 20:39.18 | Patlabor221 | but then it's also a MASIVE change |
| 20:39.34 | Patlabor221 | I'd just like to see more effort put into make the server more authoritive |
| 20:39.46 | Patlabor221 | that would get rid of a lot of the vulgar cheats |
| 20:42.28 | trepan | TimRiker: ok, i'll leave gameStyle be for now |
| 20:45.06 | TimRiker | trepan: k. thanx for the effort. replay sounds very useful. |
| 20:49.29 | trepan | you'll be able to tell by maxPlayers=216 froma standard bzfs anyways |
| 20:49.42 | trepan | TimRiker: i'm hoping it'll be handy for admins |
| 20:50.59 | Cortana | New news from matches: May 11 20:50 => [TLZ] The Legendary ZeeBrothers:6, Fortix:1 |
| 20:51.58 | trepan | pat/tim: just added some dirname functions, getConfigDir(), getCaptureDir(), etc... |
| 20:52.17 | trepan | want me to implement a getScreenShotDir(), and where would it go? |
| 20:55.11 | trepan | right now, i've got captures defaulting to: ~/.bzf/captured & C:\...\My BZFlag Files\captured |
| 20:55.17 | trepan | same kinda thing for screenshots? |
| 20:56.03 | purple_cow | what is a capture? game recording? |
| 20:56.07 | trepan | yup |
| 20:56.24 | purple_cow | "recordings" might be a clearer name :) |
| 20:56.50 | trepan | you're gonna make me change all my names, aren't you? ;) |
| 20:57.04 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.26 | trepan | if yall like that better, i'll do it |
| 20:57.27 | purple_cow | that's what i'd recommend, up to you |
| 20:57.36 | trepan | one more vote, and it's done |
| 20:59.44 | Tupone | ciao orchid |
| 21:00.03 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 21:00.21 | TimRiker | just make em consistent, whichever feels better. record makes a bit more sense to me, but it's no biggie. |
| 21:00.39 | trepan | sounds like a yes for change, it will be so |
| 21:01.11 | meno_away | hi Orchid |
| 21:01.18 | orchid | hi guys |
| 21:01.48 | trepan | orchid: how's the weather, starting to get sticky yet? |
| 21:02.01 | DeathBarrel-Work | yo trepan |
| 21:02.30 | trepan | hi DB, as you can see, i haven't finished yet... ;) |
| 21:03.08 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Masquerading to observer? Better no! |
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| 21:03.51 | orchid | trepan: 24C here today, and I love it |
| 21:03.53 | meno_away | shhh, here he is |
| 21:05.13 | orchid | does anyone know of a windows equivelant of rsync? |
| 21:05.28 | purple_cow | doesn't rsync run on windows? |
| 21:05.32 | Patlabor221 | rsync |
| 21:05.37 | orchid | it does? |
| 21:05.39 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:05.44 | Patlabor221 | there are windows builds |
| 21:05.47 | orchid | hmm |
| 21:05.51 | orchid | samba.org? |
| 21:05.52 | Patlabor221 | used it long ago |
| 21:06.01 | Patlabor221 | it may also be in cygwin |
| 21:06.34 | Patlabor221 | meno_away, you know I can see all you type anyway, Cortana is my spy :) |
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| 21:18.46 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v1_10branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Not Masquerading Observer |
| 21:18.50 | brlcad | jolly! |
| 21:19.04 | jolly | hi learner :) |
| 21:19.08 | orchid | hey j |
| 21:19.13 | jolly | hey orchid :) |
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| 21:19.52 | orchid | hi sc |
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| 21:32.23 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (21 files in 5 dirs): |
| 21:32.23 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: Changed all 'capture' command references to 'record' |
| 21:32.23 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: Renamed GetCacheDir.* to DirectoryNames.* |
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| 21:39.14 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/data/l10n/Makefile.am: add lt and sort |
| 21:42.38 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: CaptureReplay.h -> RecordReplay.h |
| 21:43.49 | trepan | DTRemenak|QX|awa: got to it just before i did :) |
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| 21:44.22 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/game/DirectoryNames.cxx: missed the original "captured" to "recordings" rename |
| 21:46.54 | TimRiker | orchid: rsync and ssh are definitely in cygwin. |
