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00:00.03*** join/#bzflag SC (~SportChic@ca-redbch-cuda1-c10a-a-255.stmnca.adelphia.net)
00:07.48michaelhhhit's not worth killing yourself over it
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00:14.10fiberchunksallo
00:15.55michaelhhhi
00:16.28michaelhhhow re ou oday
00:16.44fiberchunksdandy thx
00:18.54*** join/#bzflag geofry (~geofry@pcp04415331pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net)
00:18.56fiberchunks~nslookup bzbb.bzflag.org
00:19.00geofryhello
00:19.23kennytwhy hello, geofry ;)
00:20.02fiberchunksoh, nidhoggr, you around?
00:20.25geofryin OS X, is there a way to make the window smaller... not full screen
00:20.39JBdiGrizNo, it's on the TODO list
00:20.44geofryok
00:21.17JBdiGrizAny assistance is welcome. Comments from the SDL folk indicate there's a severe performance hit when running in windowed mode.
00:21.22fiberchunksis there some sort of DNS conspiracy today?
00:21.39fiberchunksor, can anyone hit bzbb.bzflag.org?
00:22.23JBdiGrizfiberchunks: See topic :)
00:22.43fiberchunksyes, but bzbb is not the list server :)
00:22.50fiberchunksbut cool
00:23.05JBdiGrizI didn't think I had to walk you through that. :)
00:23.10fiberchunks:)
00:24.51lurgymanpfaw
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00:25.49fiberchunksdelete all that useless crap about builds / releases / etc would ya? ;)
00:26.10JBdiGrizRead the topic, I deleted a lot of it.
00:27.22JBdiGrizI probably should remove that useless reference to bzbb ;)
00:27.28fiberchunkslol
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00:31.57kennytgeofry: find... people...?
00:32.15michaelhhhso are there actual 1.11 servers ?
00:32.36linuxclublearner ones
00:33.05michaelhhhso what exactly happened to the dns stuff?
00:33.06fiberchunksoh it _is_ a tragedy that orkut doesn't let you modify the valentine's day messages ;)
00:34.39sussudioman, they should have thought of another name for 'orkut'.
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00:48.15TheCatah well
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00:48.19TheCattoo bad bzflag.org is down
00:51.54TheCatya really horrible
00:52.01TheCatlots of bad response to this
00:52.04TheCatso many servers down
00:52.06TheCatyep
00:52.17TheCateveryone seems so ticked and annoyed
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00:56.05fiberchunks~nslookup www.hsc.com
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00:57.39Rufuserg
00:57.42TheCatapparently I should use all proper puncuation
00:57.51Rufusreally?
00:57.53Rufuswhy....
00:58.11TheCat[19:54] <dpkg> sussudio wants you to know: The enter key or return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or  ellipsis '...' instead."
00:58.14Rufuspunctuation on irc....
00:58.27Rufusyeah the guys in debian can piss off
00:58.34Rufuswell some of them
00:58.37TheCatthey forgot the , after semi-colon ; )
00:58.39Rufusnot all of them are complete assholes
00:58.52TheCatwhats up?
00:59.03TheCatbzflag.org being down is bugging me - does it happen often?
00:59.12Rufusnot that i know of
00:59.28TheCatdidn't used to, but I was away for a couple of months
00:59.34TheCatjust came back 2 days ago and its down already hmm
00:59.35Rufushehehehe
00:59.39TheCatwas all ready to play the IST finals
00:59.45TheCator at least meet to talk about them
00:59.45RufusIST finals?
00:59.52TheCatyou know
00:59.58Rufusno acctually i don't
01:00.00TheCatInternational Series Tournament or something
01:00.04Rufusi might be interested
01:00.12Rufuson my own server
01:00.19Rufusi am not to shaby
01:00.21TheCathttp://ist.baat.dk/
01:00.23Rufusbut i get slaughtered
01:00.28Rufuson other servers
01:00.30TheCatits ducati style
01:00.34TheCatno jumping
01:00.35TheCat2 shot
01:00.37TheCatetc...
01:00.38Rufusahhh
01:00.43TheCatso no ; )
01:00.46Rufusi think i'd be pretty good
01:00.58TheCatgo for it new one in 5 days or something
01:01.04Rufuscool
01:01.09Rufusi'll have to practice
01:01.14Rufusmy server is a 5 host
01:01.18Rufus5 shot even
01:01.25Rufus5 shot, no rebound with jumping
01:01.31TheCatwell gl with it
01:01.32Rufuslevel 3 good flags
01:01.38TheCatI think I'll give up on bzflag for tonight
01:01.40TheCatc'ya ppl
01:01.49Rufuswell you could direct connect with me if ya want
01:02.06TheCatnah its not that everythings down
01:02.11TheCatjust most servers
01:02.16Rufusahhhh
01:02.17TheCattheres even 1 ducati server type up
01:02.24TheCatno server list though
01:02.26TheCathard to find ppl
01:02.29TheCatits ok tomorrow
01:02.30Rufusyeah!
01:02.30TheCatc'ya
01:02.32Rufuslater
01:05.54*** part/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@sussudio.registered.freenode)
01:06.24Rufuswhat a big idiot
01:06.26Rufus...
01:08.03your_dogwho's an idiot?
01:08.35Rufussussudio
01:08.39Rufusi insulted him once
01:08.52Rufusabotu making himself feel better by pikcing on others.
01:09.06Rufushe tends to tyyhink himself as vastly suppirior to everybody else
01:09.35Rufusso I told him.. how does he expect anybody to come into #Debian and ask for help if all he does is insult them and make them feel stupid.
01:09.41Rufusthats NOT what freenode is for
01:09.52Rufushell i have helped ppl who don't know english!
01:09.54Rufusor tried
01:09.58Rufusrather...
01:10.37your_dogah
01:10.42Rufusyeah
01:11.09*** join/#bzflag michaelhhh (Mouse@172-20.dynamic.visi.com)
01:11.42Rufusit's kind of stupid to to join a help channel and try and help/get help with somebody acting like an elitist asshole
01:12.02Rufusi am no guru... i don't pretend to be, but if i know something that somebody else does not
01:12.36Rufusi don't say "you're an idiot! you do this <insert explaination here>
01:15.42fiberchunksRufus, you wouldn't happen to be the rufus that admins rufus.homeunix would ya?
01:15.52Rufusnope
01:16.00Rufusi am Cymraeg
01:16.01fiberchunksargh
01:16.09Nidhoggrwe asked him that this morning.
01:16.10Rufusi host Cymraegs_Server
01:16.24Rufusoh
01:16.34Rufusif any of you windows users wish to make a map for my server
01:16.37RufusGO nuts!
01:16.42Rufusmake a really wicked map
01:16.44Rufusand i'll host it
01:16.55fiberchunksah, hello there Nidhoggr, happy V-day
01:17.52fiberchunksI am officially engaged! ;)
01:18.44michaelhhhso who called who an idiot?
01:19.05Rufusme an idiot?
01:19.41Rufussussudio.
01:19.46Rufusif you're asking me.
01:19.52Nidhoggrfiberchunks, congratulations!!!!
01:19.54Rufushe dislikes me read up.
01:19.56Nidhoggrthat's awesome.
01:20.05fiberchunks:)
01:20.14fiberchunksdoing anything special with you sig. other?
01:20.14Nidhoggrwas she shocked?
01:20.17fiberchunksindeed
01:20.29fiberchunksand I was too when I saw the cost of the friggin' thing :\ ;)
01:20.36Nidhoggrwe are going to our favorite indian restaraunt.
01:20.49fiberchunksmmmmm, indian food
01:20.51Nidhoggrrings are expensive.
01:21.00fiberchunksindeed
01:21.25Nidhoggrthere were flowers and chocolate covered espresso beans at our house today.
01:21.36Nidhoggrcheaper than gold/diamonds. :)
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01:22.11fiberchunksheh
01:22.37fiberchunksI was thinking about sending a 'funny' valentines' day card to learner via orkut - but you can't customise the messages :\
01:22.38michaelhhhare there some perpetual unliked people that hang out in bzland?
01:23.09*** part/#bzflag b1nhb00ng (~bb@grdsl-92.dsl.utk.edu)
01:23.10fiberchunksthere used to be a fellow named spoogebob that irritated everyone equally -- he is no more thankfully
01:23.11Nidhoggrmichaelhhh, there are in almost every online community.
01:23.22Rufusyeap
01:23.28Nidhoggrspooge showed up again the other week.
01:23.34fiberchunksargh
01:23.36Rufushmmm
01:23.43Rufusi have no idea if i am liked or disliked
01:23.46RufusIt's freenode.
01:23.51michaelhhhI just mean they all of a sudden turn into sloth/troll things
01:24.00Nidhoggrit was really him, but a quick note to his provider and calling him by his real first named seemed to have done the trick.
01:24.01Rufuswho does?
01:24.08fiberchunks:)
01:24.22fiberchunksit's amazing how fast people stop harassing other players when you know their real names
01:24.29Nidhoggr:)
01:24.31fontenotargh I hated that spooge person
01:24.34Rufushehehheheh
01:24.37michaelhhhdoes spooge actually ever say anything?
01:24.41Rufusno idea who spooge is
01:24.44Nidhoggroh, yeah
01:24.50Rufusi know sussudio dislikes me
01:24.51fiberchunkshe did, but it was always foul, and always irritating
01:24.56Nidhoggrhe has a horrible potty mouth.
01:25.27fiberchunksimma rank this MiddleMan spammer character right up there with him soon, though
01:25.33fiberchunksruins the play on that rufus server
01:25.49michaelhhhspmammer ?
01:25.59fiberchunksalthough, I think learner is 'fixing' the auto-message issue
01:26.04Nidhoggrwe had a girl that came on with a porn site url in her email field. that was special.
01:26.16michaelhhhsure it was a girl?
01:26.18michaelhhh:)
01:26.22fiberchunksyeah, spamming the bz server that he/she/it is on with auto-messages, so you can't really see team or global messages
01:26.29Rufuslol
01:26.31Nidhoggrwell, I give people the benefit of the doubt.
01:26.45michaelhhhwhat the heck
01:26.51michaelhhhso join messages?
01:26.54NidhoggrI also kick people who question someone's gender openly on the server.
01:26.56Rufusouch!
01:27.00Rufusyou can script that?!
01:27.02fiberchunksno, auto-message (alt+Fwhatever)
01:27.04Rufusthe horror!
01:27.11fiberchunksno, it's in the GUI in 1.10.4 now
01:27.22Rufusahhh
01:27.24Rufusnasty.
01:27.31Rufusi wish somebody would update the editor
01:27.38Rufusi was pesting learner
01:27.41Rufushe told me to do it
01:27.43Rufuslol
01:27.50Rufusi pester alot of ppl
01:27.56fiberchunksI think grumbler is working on that -- Patlabor221 has tossed it to the public in search of greater things
01:27.59Nidhoggrpestering is an art.
01:28.10Rufusagreed
01:28.32Nidhoggrmy pestering has resulted in a number of good bz features. :)
01:28.41fiberchunksyou're a hassle ;)
01:28.41michaelhhhwe could rewrite it in C# and ASP.net :)
01:28.47fiberchunksaieee
01:28.48RufusLOL!
01:28.54Rufuspaste all the ppl who suck hardcore
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01:31.03fiberchunks~nslookup bzbb.bzflag.org
01:32.52michaelhhhhttp://www.pflag.org/
01:32.54michaelhhh:)
01:33.58Nidhoggrhrm... I found out my cell phone number plays mary had a little lamb... how do I know this?  someone just called it.
01:34.07fiberchunksheh
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01:35.06Nidhoggrnothing like picking up the phone and hearing mary had a little lamb in phone tones.
01:38.03Rufushey
01:38.10Rufusmy friends is trying to download bzflag
01:38.14Rufussince the website is down
01:38.18Rufusehere can he go
01:38.21Rufussource forge?
01:38.28fiberchunksyes
01:38.34Rufuswhats the url?
01:38.37fiberchunksthat's where you should get it anyway
01:38.41fiberchunkssf.net/projects/bzflag
01:38.44Rufusbzflag.sourceforge.org?
01:38.47Rufusk
01:38.48Rufusthanks
01:38.51fiberchunksnp
01:39.24Rufushehehehehe
01:39.36RufusI started a channel for BzFlag on the network i am running
01:39.43Rufuswell running a leaf server for...
01:39.51michaelhhhwhat network is that
01:40.01Rufushmmm
01:40.07Rufusi dislike spamming
01:40.13Rufusi'll notice it to you if ya want it.
01:40.27michaelhhhthis is irc or ?
01:40.32Rufusyeah it's IRC
01:40.49michaelhhhnot a big deal
01:40.55Rufusk
01:41.09michaelhhhso if I put someone's email address out there, it's going to get harvested?
01:41.09Rufusit's a small network anyway
01:41.14michaelhhhasdasd@asdasd.com
01:41.18Rufuslol
01:41.21Rufusprobably not
01:41.25Rufusthier pretty stick
01:41.40Rufuswell WE are
01:41.40Rufusi pretty much just host for them
01:41.58Rufusi am skilled in the arts of Linux... but not so much in IRCd admin
01:42.10Rufusthe others are
01:42.57Rufushey michaelhhh you good at building maps?
01:43.15Rufusi am looking to get a pretty decent cunstom map
01:43.18Rufusbut i have no editor
01:44.25michaelhhhnot really, I'm a programmer really
01:44.34Rufuscool
01:44.39Rufusi am not good at programming
01:44.41michaelhhhI can hack away at the server, or client -- like most people here
01:44.50RufusI am alright at PERL-CGI
01:45.00Rufusbut other then that i am pretty inept
01:45.00michaelhhhkind of stink with graphics / opengl
01:45.10Rufuscool
01:45.19Rufusyou should update the editor for linux
01:45.28michaelhhhwhats with : d:\bzstuff\bzeditw32\bzedit32\objects.h(7) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'TextureMngr.h': No such file or directory
01:45.43Rufususe the stock display model in BzFlag insetad of depending on outside libaraies like "glarea"
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01:47.22captain_protonuh oh, is someone trying to build bzedit?
01:47.34Rufusi wonder if it's possable to make a plugin for bzflag for Blender
01:47.38Rufusthat would be cool
01:47.53Rufuscaptain_proton yeah i am still on aboutthe linux editor
01:48.03Rufuslol
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01:48.57Rufusoh how do i change the name of the bots in -solo
01:49.59captain_protonchange yer callsign
01:50.04creeperzhehe
01:50.08Rufusman
01:50.12Rufusthat bites.
01:50.15Rufusalrighty \
01:50.22Rufusi am off to play some BZ
01:50.23Rufusi'll see yas later
01:53.01kennytahhhh 0ms lag
01:55.34fiberchunksgotta go -- laterz
01:55.52ElectricElfAnybody have the IP address for ducati CTF or quol CTF?
01:56.27kennyt66.92.170.96 ;-)
01:57.22ElectricElfnCool.
01:57.24ElectricElfThanks :)
01:57.29ElectricElfkennyt: ducati or quol?
01:58.02ElectricElfHeh, neither :)
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02:00.24ElectricElfGrumbler: Weird, what'd you get removed for?
02:00.57creeperzpicture? :-)
02:01.03creeperzj/k
02:01.13Grumblersesssion lasted longer than 20 minutes....think i didnt log off.....
02:01.41Grumblerreal edge stuff there
02:02.57ElectricElfUhh
02:02.59ElectricElfGrumbler: Your account was *removed* because of this? Can't log back in? :)
02:03.33Grumblererrr....hold on....looks like a firefox problem....i was able to log in via IE
02:03.55Grumbler.....but i am sure i was able to log in with firefox before.....hmmmmm
02:04.16GrumblerElectricElf, looks like firefox was sending me a bogus error
02:04.21ElectricElfGrumbler: K.
02:05.16creeperzhehe
02:19.10JBdiGrizTupone: another quick question if you have the time
02:19.22Tuponeshoot
02:20.00JBdiGrizIs there a way to distinguish between mouse buttons, and the first three joystick buttons? I tried a quick fix, but I didn't succeed.
02:21.10JBdiGrizIt looked like the mouse buttons were being artificially mapped to the same event.
02:21.33TuponeI think it should be! I think problem can be mapping 3 button to the same command :) so I can shoot with Enter, left mouse button and joystick main fire
02:22.06JBdiGrizSupposedly, that can be done with bzdb, but not with the current command interface. I was going to try playing with that as well.
02:22.07TuponeIt should be possible to distinguish (I meant)
02:22.45Tuponewhy you started from button_27 ?
02:22.49JBdiGrizAny hints. (for those interested, Tupone gives excellent hints about the code)
02:23.14Tupone:red)
02:23.16JBdiGrizIt happened to be the enumeration constant. There was no reason for any particular name.
02:23.53Tuponeso it is still known as F1?
02:24.41JBdiGrizNo, it comes up as button_27 in my interface, but the second button comes up as F12. I still don't fully understand the mapping from the device.
02:25.08JBdiGrizActually, the first button comes up as middle mouse button.
02:25.30TuponeFirst button == fire button ?
02:26.07JBdiGrizI prefer it to be button 8 on my device which is located in the trigger area. Button 1 is on top.
02:27.22JBdiGrizThe problem is that if I'm playing with the mouse, then I would rather left button be fire.
02:27.35JBdiGrizThat's why I wanted to split the names.
02:28.16TuponeIn fact, in my mapping the first 3 button (after swapping one) are mapped with the mouse button
02:28.37Tuponethe other 9 are from F1 to F9
02:28.54Tuponeand they are easily viewable in the code
02:29.25JBdiGrizI'm getting the first left mouse, f12, middle mouse, right mouse, and then the joystick buttons that I added
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02:30.22TuponeOhh, I C, code is changed
02:30.24JBdiGrizI tried playing with the mappings, but I didn't want to commit any changes like that until I understood the devices a little better.
02:31.51TuponeBetter to map any button key straight to a new event, and solve that 3 key mapping to command
02:32.16Tuponethus removing any swapping I did
02:32.44JBdiGrizThat's what I thought, but you understand it better than I, so I wanted to verify.
02:34.03JBdiGrizWe should probably also pick better names for the joystick buttons. :)
02:35.42TuponeI'm still trying to fix that SDL for windows.
02:35.55Tuponevideo I means!
02:36.10TuponeAny chance to try video on Mac now?
02:36.41TuponeI made some fix on SDLDisplay
02:36.55JBdiGrizSure, the last time I tried, I was able to get something, but it didn't look very good. Have you checked in your fixes?
02:37.07Tuponeyeah, they are in
02:38.21JBdiGrizAny changes to the PlatformFactory, or should the previous one work?
02:39.13TuponeI didn't change the interface
02:39.21Tuponebut you should remove the native one
02:39.30Tuponeand put in the SDL
02:40.18Tuponeshould be the same that you took from me, some days ago
02:40.48JBdiGrizAs I recall, there was also the issue of including the SDL files in the compile.
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02:41.33Tuponewhat have you made for the audio?
02:41.43Tuponeor you are not using it
02:42.59JBdiGrizI haven't changed anything for audio in those files.
02:43.22Tuponeso you have not SDL audio ?
02:43.37your_doghey meno
02:43.47menotumei
02:43.49menotumehi
02:43.52Tuponeuhm, better not to try then, and fix this button
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02:44.29JBdiGrizlearner may have changed it. I would have to investigate it further.
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02:51.16slothwhat happened to the list server
02:51.26captain_protontopic :P
02:51.32slothoh
02:51.36sloth:(
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02:52.30slothis there a non graphical standalone server?
02:53.07michaelhhhbzfs
02:53.20slothoh
02:53.28michaelhhhit's run by the client
02:53.40michaelhhhnot built in or anything
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03:03.52Grumblersloth what site are you looking for....i might be able to remember the setting
03:11.33slothwhats the option for bzfs to enable flags? :( why did thet disable flags by default
03:11.35slothflags owned
03:11.42slothand jumping
03:12.09your_dog~nslookup quol.bzflag.org
03:12.13creeperz+f good
03:12.22Grumblersloth you running on windows?
03:12.44slothno, the bzfs server
03:12.51slothi know how to enable them in the gui
03:13.09Grumblergonna say if so, there is a configuration builder distributed with bzflag in the doc section....not sure if it is on other distros
03:14.32creeperz~seen patlabor221
03:14.38patlabor221 is currently on #project24 (9h 55m 38s) #bzflag (9h 55m 38s).  Has said a total of 1 messages.  Is idling for 3h 45m 52s
03:18.01Rufushey
03:18.06Rufushow do i Hunt?
03:18.12Rufusthere is a Hunt option
03:18.14Rufusright
03:19.34creeperzU key
03:19.37RufusU
03:19.38Rufusthanks
03:19.46creeperzthen right click til its on the name you want
03:19.52creeperzthan fire key
03:19.57creeperzthen*
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03:28.56Jaguar503nwhy is bzflag down?
03:31.13Jaguar503nanyone?
03:32.39creeperzread the topic
03:32.45Jaguar503ntopic?
03:33.02Jaguar503nah
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03:44.30b1nhb00ng/kick your_dog
04:03.04your_dogcome 2 bzleague bin, i want 2 kick you ;)
04:03.33b1nhb00ngyou wish
04:03.59Grumblerhe has bin there bonged that
04:04.10b1nhb00ngyup
04:07.02your_dogso what are you doing on irc?
04:07.09your_doggo away, no one wants you here ;)
04:07.27b1nhb00nghic
04:07.50your_doghic? did you just call me a hic?
04:08.20your_doghuh!?!? answer me!
04:08.32your_dogor are you afraid 2 fight a hic? :)
04:09.17your_dogi'm the only one on our team channel :(
04:09.42b1nhb00nglol, cuz no one wants to be close to you
04:09.45b1nhb00ngstinky
04:09.57your_dogwell, i do need 2 bath :D
04:10.10b1nhb00ngdidn't need to share that though
04:10.28your_dogneed 2 brush my teeth too...pheeeeeww!
04:10.37your_dog:D
04:10.42your_dogsorry, tooth
04:11.04your_dogb1nhb00ng: is your nick registered?
04:11.09b1nhb00ngyuppy
04:11.52your_dogfreenode is adding a new mode for channel ops :)
04:11.54your_dogcoooool :)
04:12.04cupid+R
04:12.11your_dogyup :)
04:12.16your_dogare you going 2 use it?
04:12.37cupidnot sure
04:12.45cupidup to tim, really
04:12.57your_dogahhh, yes
04:13.20cupidit's not clear how it will exactly help us from what we have
04:13.38your_dogyeah
04:14.14cupidwith, perhaps, the exception of having to ban most of germany, of course ;)
04:14.18cupiddid lilo post something about +R somewhere?
04:14.36your_dogyeah
04:14.43your_dog-dmwaters- {global notice} Hi all! Please take a moment to see 'http://www.freenode.net/news.shtml' We will be doing an upgrade of the ircd software in about 3 hours. I will do wallops  as we do the upgrades, '/mode your_nick +w' to see them. Thank you for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!
04:15.59your_dogi guess only the channel owners got one? i don't know
04:16.07creeperzwho was it that wanted to configure firefox to open a new tab when he opened a link in xchat?
04:16.44your_dogheh
04:16.45your_dognot me
04:17.11your_dog<PROTECTED>
04:17.29your_dogoops
04:17.44Jaguar503nwhy is bzflag down?
04:17.47Jaguar503nwhat is dns?
04:17.47cupidi didn't get home until just now
04:18.00your_dogahhhhhh
04:18.27creeperzhttp://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/tbe
04:19.02creeperzit takes some configurin' but it works cool :-)
04:22.21bryjen"bzflag" isn't down.  you just can't get the list of servers.  if you can remember the names and port numbers, you can still connect.
04:22.30captain_protonJaguar503n: it can't figure out which machine is associated with the name "bzflag.org"
04:22.45Rufus<PROTECTED>
04:22.46bryjenibot: DNS
04:22.53[dns] (Domain Name Service) This service maps TCP/IP numbers such as 123.12.4.245 to a more easily remembered name, such as www.ugeek.com. Thus, when you type www.ugeek.com into your browser, it goes out to the DNS server you specified when you installed dial-up networking (or TCP/IP services if you've got a nice connection) and asks for a matching TCP/IP address. If it finds a DNS entry for the name you typed in, you see our site. If not, it lets you know. Every domain name on the Web has a corresponding TCP/IP address that maps to the actual Web site. When you set up a site, you have your ISP add a DNS entry to their DNS servers. This entry gets replicated across the Internet in a matter of hours, and, once fully replicated, you can reach your Web site from any Internet connection in the world.
04:22.54Rufusit would be cool to fly about bombing
04:22.55Rufuslol!
04:23.02creeperzi think there was an OLD patch
04:23.12Rufus??
04:23.24JBdiGrizThere are clients that allow the tank to fly. They're called cheats. That's a different game.
04:23.47NidhoggrI remember when this happened last time Tim said he'd add my nameservers as a secondary, but never did.
04:24.33cupid~bzflist
04:24.39JBdiGrizPerhaps this will convince him
04:24.42creeperzi dont mind if there are cheat clients, just as long as they dont hit public servers where people are playing :-)
04:24.54JBdiGrizIt looks like the server might be back
04:24.58bryjenand we don't need redundant list server 'cuz we can just list the DNS system handle it.....
04:25.45JBdiGrizWe could, but we would need to set it up so there's redundant DNS information, like adding nid's servers as a secondary.
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04:26.17nmre *
04:26.20bryjeneh. not here.  doesn't ibot run on one of Tim's machines? it may still be able to resolve bzflag.org
04:26.22nmwhat is Bzflag ;)
04:26.43JBdiGriz~nslookup bzflag.org
04:26.52Nidhoggrlast time I could retreive the zone from the main server
04:29.37cupidyes, ibot has not ceased to function
04:31.08cupidtim's primary dns appears to be dead/gone, though secondary is responding (at least to ping)
04:31.13JBdiGrizcupid: The restart event doesn't appear to be mappable to a new button. I remember you were playing with that to make sure that 'i' always worked. Have you ever tried mapping it?
04:31.20b1nhb00ngnm??
04:32.43JBdiGrizThe primary, ns1.rikers.org, appears to be up and providing server, but it hasn't transferred the zones to the secondaries. I don't get any response from them.
04:33.00JBdiGrizThe primary isn't listed as one of the nameservers to be queried.
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04:33.06Nidhoggryeah, my nameserver has the current zone file now... and the main nameserver is also the db server, and is connecting to my bz server.
04:33.21cupidns1.rikers.org?  a whois on bzflag.org shows ns.mechworks.com and ns2.codepoet.org for me
04:33.32JBdiGrizThose are the secondaries.
04:34.09Nidhoggrthe primary is timriker.dyndns.org
04:34.22Nidhoggralso ns1.rikers.org
04:34.30JBdiGrizah, I hadn't actually looked for the alias.
04:34.36cupidodd.. i'm not seeing that
04:34.43bryjen~nslookup ns1.rikers.org
04:34.47Nidhoggrcuz we have DNS foo
04:34.49Nidhoggr:)
04:35.04JBdiGrizIt's the difference in the whois database, and the admin setup of bzflag.org
04:35.05bryjen~nslookup timriker.dyndns.org
04:35.12Nidhoggrbut if you set your nameserver to ns1.tiphareth.net, you should get bzflag lookups.
04:36.28NidhoggrI set myself as a secondary a while ago, and it's kept working.
04:36.39bryjenthat's the same IP that ibot's from.
04:36.44Nidhoggryep
04:36.54cupidJBdiGriz: re remapping identify/restart .. my recollection is vague right this moment
04:37.03bryjenso he's running it on his box @ home ?
04:37.10Nidhoggryep
04:37.26Nidhoggrthe listserver, the dns, and the bot.
04:37.33your_dognhey capn
04:37.47CapNhi dog
04:37.49cupidi remember remapping it at one point pre 1.10 during early 1.9 when I made it display the first two bindings found, and it worked
04:37.58bryjenhow many eggs fit in one basket? ;)
04:38.01JBdiGrizthe proper response there is nhi
04:38.04cupidthen I remember testing the remapping in latter 1.9 builds and it was non-functional
04:38.15cupidhowdy capn :)
04:38.24CapNhi cupid
04:38.35JBdiGrizbryjen: how many of them break when the basket falls. ")
04:38.55CapNcoincidence, list , board and league site down?
04:38.59CapN:)
04:39.20JBdiGrizcupid: I'm trying to map the events for the gamepad, and seeing that it's still a problem.
04:39.25Nidhoggrto be fair, the issue seems to be with codepoet and mecworks communicating with the primary ns
04:39.31Nidhoggrnot actually the primary ns
04:39.39bryjenCapN: all end in .bzflag.org, and the DNS went wonky
04:39.53learnerJBdiGriz: i believe if you actually set it manually in the config file, it will work
04:39.53your_dogCapN: ducati==141.99.42.48
04:39.58learner~bzflist
04:40.22learner~nslookup ducati.bzflag.org
04:40.32JBdiGrizlearner: I tried that. I have to set the bindings in the config file so I don't lose 1.10 bindings when testing with 1.11
04:40.41Nidhoggrsince I am getting the zone file with no problem.
04:41.34learnercapn: basicaly you'll have trouble getting to anything named *.bzflag.org .. you can ~nslookup the name and go directly to the ip address, though just fine
04:42.29CapNyeah...i always use the zeebrothers site to see who's playing where anyways.
04:43.03bryjen~nslookup stats.bzflag.org
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04:54.09your_dogany1 want 2 join me on ducati?
04:54.18b1nhb00ngis the list working now
04:54.27your_dogno, but you can still get 2 ducati
04:54.34b1nhb00ngip/port?
04:54.48your_dogreplace 141.99.42.48:5156
04:55.09b1nhb00ngok, be right there
04:55.09your_dogheh, didn't mean 2 put the replace :)
04:55.27your_doguhoh, upgrades startin in 15 min :)
04:58.05creeperzi must be tired
04:58.13creeperzi forgot i had a Dew sitting next to me :-/
04:58.23learnerinteresting site: http://hkkk.fi/~laari/lodger/lodger.html
04:58.39creeperzcool :-)
04:59.07learneralthough probably not appropriate for everyone, the flash is rather artistic and polished
04:59.09creeperzlots of work :-)
04:59.38creeperzguestbook could use a little... tuning :-)
05:00.50creeperzcept for the end!
05:01.05learneri love death is rather creative
05:06.26creeperzwoah
05:06.47creeperzi never knew stik people could gross me out THIS bad :-)
05:07.27learnerstill a very impressive use of flash and creativity, imo -- regardless of the content
05:07.59captain_protonheh
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