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| 01:51.52 | MrApathyCream | pass the eggnog |
| 01:53.38 | fhffhqvb | salmonella for everyone! |
| 02:06.32 | Noodleman | sounds good to *hic* me |
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| 03:25.46 | MrApathyCream | heya tupone |
| 03:25.57 | Tupone | hi |
| 03:26.00 | Tupone | Merry Xmas |
| 03:26.03 | MrApathyCream | likewise |
| 03:26.09 | MrApathyCream | you too Sasami |
| 03:26.10 | Tupone | my has got |
| 03:26.16 | Tupone | gone |
| 03:26.21 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:26.24 | MrApathyCream | mine almost |
| 03:26.43 | Tupone | no commit today? |
| 03:26.51 | Tupone | at least 1 |
| 03:27.04 | MrApathyCream | i added a todo :) |
| 03:27.16 | Tupone | and chestal remove a block |
| 03:27.31 | MrApathyCream | progress..! |
| 03:27.37 | Tupone | they are not true commit! just j/k ! |
| 03:27.45 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:27.57 | MrApathyCream | well, i guess we're all not sure what we're doing now |
| 03:28.06 | MrApathyCream | bugs/features/?? |
| 03:28.37 | Tupone | I see a lot of bug! but I don't know if people or server updated to then new one |
| 03:28.40 | MrApathyCream | specs ?? |
| 03:28.45 | MrApathyCream | j/k sasami, we don't do specs |
| 03:28.52 | MrApathyCream | ;) |
| 03:29.02 | Tupone | we added task! |
| 03:29.10 | MrApathyCream | i saw, rather impressive |
| 03:29.33 | Tupone | not really spec, just aim |
| 03:30.08 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:30.09 | Tupone | I think Sean as going to much further :) |
| 03:30.29 | MrApathyCream | Wow BZFlag is 3rd most active on sf |
| 03:30.37 | Tupone | sry for my english. It's late night |
| 03:31.07 | MrApathyCream | no problem, better than my italian :) |
| 03:31.32 | fhffhqvb | i conigli si rallegreranno sulle sue scarpe quando lei dorme |
| 03:31.43 | Tupone | I C your questioning about binding! You undersatnd why? |
| 03:32.00 | MrApathyCream | i see it's not easy to fix |
| 03:32.30 | Tupone | We can have max 2 bind for a command! But nobody limit it, just menus.cxx |
| 03:32.41 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 03:33.02 | Tupone | so if we have binding from default and then binding from files ... we can get more |
| 03:33.22 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 03:33.30 | MrApathyCream | Buon Natale |
| 03:33.31 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 03:33.42 | MrApathyCream | working on 'happy new year' |
| 03:33.46 | Sasami | mery xmas |
| 03:34.13 | Tupone | you got some time to learn that! |
| 03:34.16 | Sasami | did you all get what you wanted? |
| 03:34.17 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:34.26 | MrApathyCream | i'm still here,.... i'm happy |
| 03:34.39 | Sasami | allways a good thing |
| 03:36.24 | Tupone | now its time to sleep (or to wake up?) Just don't remember if I'm sleeping or awake |
| 03:36.35 | Tupone | either, I'll leave this |
| 03:36.45 | Tupone | bye |
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| 03:38.58 | Sasami | well I have a good evening, I'm gonna go die |
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| 04:52.20 | fhffhqvb | ~bzflist |
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| 05:49.26 | fhffhqvb | hmm. |
| 06:25.12 | Pimpinella | god morning |
| 06:25.17 | Pimpinella | good |
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| 06:46.30 | MrApathyCream | oh save in png is nice |
| 06:51.35 | fhffhqvb | doesn't an IP ending in .0 mean all of the network? |
| 06:52.51 | MrApathyCream | 255 is broadcast |
| 06:53.21 | fhffhqvb | :-| |
| 06:53.28 | proton_lord | 0 is also broadcast |
| 06:53.45 | fhffhqvb | my IP is 81.68.131.0 right now |
| 06:53.55 | proton_lord | well, technically its broadcast |
| 06:54.00 | proton_lord | according to old bsd rules |
| 06:59.20 | shkoo | it depends on your netmask. |
| 06:59.30 | proton_lord | well, true |
| 06:59.42 | proton_lord | the bottom and top of a subnet are usually reserved for broadcast |
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| 07:00.29 | fhffhqvb | if you were a pair of DIMMS, where would you be? |
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| 07:07.41 | |tim| | Every time when I install Halo, it installs but then goes to a black screen. So I reboot and open halo and it says I'm missing .DLL file |
| 07:08.21 | fhffhqvb | did you buy it or warezed it? |
| 07:08.32 | |tim| | bought |
| 07:08.38 | fhffhqvb | call support then. |
| 07:08.44 | |tim| | ok |
| 07:09.01 | |tim| | this has happened with other games like Ghost Recon |
| 07:11.00 | fhffhqvb | hm you call a city "Bam" and then they're surprised when an earthquake hits it... |
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| 10:30.51 | Manu_1 | ~seen learner |
| 10:30.54 | | learner is currently on #project24 #bzflag. Has said a total of 74 messages. Is idling for 1d 15h 40m 39s |
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| 14:17.32 | david_v | hey rufi :) |
| 14:17.42 | RuFiToS | hi dave :) |
| 14:17.50 | RuFiToS | whats up? |
| 14:17.54 | david_v | ah... not much heh |
| 14:18.13 | david_v | i'm doing well anyhow |
| 14:18.21 | RuFiToS | I have really fun last night thx |
| 14:18.25 | david_v | :) |
| 14:19.27 | RuFiToS | I seen the new screenshots |
| 14:19.35 | RuFiToS | cool stuff :) |
| 14:19.42 | david_v | hehe :) |
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| 16:03.19 | Chestal | sombody figured out #7 from http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/invisible_159.shtml ? |
| 16:08.58 | Chestal | ok, got it |
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| 16:47.00 | proton_lord | mornin' Patlabor221 |
| 16:47.42 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:47.48 | Patlabor221 | how was your holiday? |
| 16:47.56 | proton_lord | quite nice |
| 16:48.00 | proton_lord | yours? |
| 16:48.08 | Patlabor221 | good |
| 16:48.10 | Patlabor221 | I got tired |
| 16:48.14 | Patlabor221 | tires, opp |
| 16:48.22 | Patlabor221 | tho I got tired too :) |
| 16:50.13 | proton_lord | :) |
| 16:50.54 | Patlabor221 | and now a week at work with noone else here, so that can't be bad |
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| 17:01.26 | Patlabor221 | who the hell is that jweks guy and why is he such a pric? |
| 17:01.50 | proton_lord | hm? |
| 17:02.47 | Patlabor221 | bzbb anouncements |
| 17:04.06 | proton_lord | link? |
| 17:04.27 | Patlabor221 | stand thy by |
| 17:04.35 | Patlabor221 | http://bzbb.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?t=1283 |
| 17:07.35 | proton_lord | wow |
| 17:08.06 | Patlabor221 | one more and he's outie |
| 17:16.14 | proton_lord | i kinda want to see what he has to say for himself :) |
| 17:16.34 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:17.12 | Patlabor221 | ohh Igot a dead can dance CD for xmass too :) |
| 17:17.53 | proton_lord | which one? |
| 17:18.04 | Patlabor221 | Aion |
| 17:18.12 | proton_lord | :) |
| 17:18.19 | Patlabor221 | it is rather good |
| 17:19.00 | Patlabor221 | I must go home in a bit to get the Jan Hammer CD I got, but forgot to bring in to rip |
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| 17:20.10 | Michaelh | so proton is no longer a captain? |
| 17:20.26 | proton_lord | only momentarily |
| 17:22.10 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 17:22.32 | Patlabor221 | first I must start redoing client server comunication based on that chat I had with you can scanline |
| 17:23.43 | Michaelh | this is for bz? |
| 17:23.59 | Michaelh | or your thingee |
| 17:24.04 | Patlabor221 | not BZ |
| 17:25.50 | fiberchunks | he is a nuisance, and apparently can't see either ;) |
| 17:26.06 | fiberchunks | morning |
| 17:26.54 | Patlabor221 | it may have not updated to the server he was looking at when he looked |
| 17:27.58 | fiberchunks | wouldn't it still be listed under the 'source' link from the summary page? |
| 17:28.17 | Patlabor221 | I thik SF has multiple web servers |
| 17:28.25 | Patlabor221 | so he may have goten a difren summary page |
| 17:28.54 | Patlabor221 | also for some reason somone made allt he source in a release with the date not a 1.10.2 |
| 17:29.15 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 17:29.48 | Patlabor221 | or he's just an asshole |
| 17:30.10 | Michaelh | who be dis |
| 17:30.17 | fiberchunks | I'll go with door #3 Pat |
| 17:30.30 | Patlabor221 | that he is the son of Truman Kapotie? |
| 17:30.45 | Patlabor221 | I figured that was the rare choice, but ok, |
| 17:31.01 | Michaelh | who be dis -- curious minds want to know |
| 17:31.13 | Patlabor221 | jweeks |
| 17:31.18 | fiberchunks | someone on bzbb |
| 17:31.23 | Patlabor221 | rather rudly |
| 17:31.29 | fiberchunks | indeed |
| 17:33.57 | Michaelh | so which forum? |
| 17:34.45 | fiberchunks | announcements -- the 1.10.2 release thread |
| 17:35.49 | fiberchunks | http://bzbb.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?t=1283 |
| 17:35.51 | fiberchunks | that one |
| 17:38.30 | Michaelh | yowza |
| 17:38.44 | Michaelh | obviously talking about the stuff that I was talking about |
| 17:38.50 | Michaelh | but that's been fixed |
| 17:39.24 | Michaelh | except I forgot to mentional that you all suck |
| 17:39.31 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 17:42.27 | Patlabor221 | and you have CVS |
| 17:45.00 | fiberchunks | slot 1 |
| 17:45.01 | fiberchunks | ? |
| 17:45.06 | fiberchunks | or socket |
| 17:45.11 | Patlabor221 | slot |
| 17:45.28 | fiberchunks | I think I've a 650 buried somewhere in my basement |
| 17:45.31 | Michaelh | Isn't structured programming refering to something like C ? |
| 17:45.34 | Patlabor221 | I have a dual CPU mobo that works, and a 600 and a 667 |
| 17:45.45 | fiberchunks | so I'm no help to you :) |
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| 17:46.16 | Patlabor221 | Michaelh, it can, but you can do structured programing in any language, it's moslty just a way to layout your app |
| 17:47.01 | Michaelh | so it just a term that people just mangle to suit their own definition of it I suppose |
| 17:47.36 | Michaelh | Perhaps he was upset because GMShell and RegularShot are descendants of SingleShot |
| 17:47.41 | Michaelh | aren't |
| 17:47.50 | Michaelh | or something like that |
| 17:47.54 | Patlabor221 | I think there is a definitions of it |
| 17:48.18 | Michaelh | or perhaps he lost it when he saying playing.cxx |
| 17:48.22 | Michaelh | :) |
| 17:48.47 | Patlabor221 | well you can't use any idiom when describing bzflag |
| 17:48.57 | Patlabor221 | cept maybe refactoring |
| 17:49.06 | Chestal | grmpf |
| 17:49.07 | Patlabor221 | as there is no overriding plan. |
| 17:49.15 | Chestal | I'm gonna plah bzflag on LANonly I think |
| 17:49.16 | Patlabor221 | FFA :) |
| 17:49.17 | Michaelh | Well it works that's the most interesting part |
| 17:49.19 | Chestal | eberyone except me is lagging |
| 17:49.46 | Michaelh | Doesn't that seem suspicious |
| 17:49.57 | Chestal | the spawnign in 1.10 really sucks btw. |
| 17:50.09 | Chestal | this is the singlebiggest show-stopper by far |
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| 17:50.37 | Michaelh | because the server doesn't know where the shots are |
| 17:50.45 | Chestal | and Idon't see that we have a working plan to improve it |
| 17:50.48 | Michaelh | Why not have designated spawning spots? |
| 17:50.59 | Chestal | even if it would it woudltake toomuchtime to choose a goodspawnpoint |
| 17:51.09 | Patlabor221 | server side shot state isn't on the list till 2.0 |
| 17:51.23 | Chestal | clients sometimes needed a lot of tries to find a good spawn point |
| 17:51.26 | fiberchunks | designated spawn points will lead to people sitting there aimed at the spawn points, I would think |
| 17:51.34 | Michaelh | Don't 99% of these games do that though? |
| 17:51.37 | Patlabor221 | its called camping |
| 17:51.38 | Chestal | maybe we must do fade-in after all? |
| 17:51.43 | Patlabor221 | and yes many do it |
| 17:51.57 | Michaelh | create an invulnerability for a few seconds |
| 17:51.58 | Patlabor221 | Tim was against that IIRC |
| 17:52.16 | Chestal | bzfs already knows approx. tankpositions, yes? |
| 17:52.17 | Patlabor221 | just get the shots server side |
| 17:52.21 | Chestal | we could use that info right now |
| 17:52.42 | Chestal | server must choose spawnpos in <5ms though |
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| 17:52.52 | Patlabor221 | yes you could, and have the server dot he same DR that clients do |
| 17:52.57 | Chestal | or asynch |
| 17:52.58 | Michaelh | Put big driving pyramids around new players for a second or two :) |
| 17:53.05 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 17:53.11 | Patlabor221 | or have the server precompute a bunch of spawns |
| 17:53.14 | Patlabor221 | wellt hat won't work |
| 17:53.15 | Patlabor221 | nm |
| 17:53.17 | Chestal | Pat: even withotu DR it shoudl work ok for tanks |
| 17:53.40 | Patlabor221 | but why not DR, then you can do exactly what it used to do |
| 17:54.06 | Chestal | because it would mean a greater effort |
| 17:54.12 | Chestal | the state is half-assed inthere only |
| 17:54.19 | Michaelh | dr ? |
| 17:54.28 | Patlabor221 | yes for better quality, would that not be worht it |
| 17:54.37 | Chestal | not sure |
| 17:54.37 | Michaelh | was isst |
| 17:54.40 | Chestal | there's still the shots |
| 17:54.47 | Patlabor221 | there is no reason the state in the server can't be the same as it is in the client |
| 17:54.54 | Chestal | of course it can |
| 17:54.55 | Patlabor221 | you know the server has all the same messages |
| 17:54.59 | Chestal | but would increase the server load a lot |
| 17:55.00 | Patlabor221 | so just make it so |
| 17:55.08 | Chestal | the questionis how much |
| 17:55.10 | Patlabor221 | you have the code, just move it over |
| 17:55.14 | Michaelh | what is dr ? |
| 17:55.18 | Chestal | the code isn't isolated |
| 17:55.19 | Patlabor221 | dead reconing |
| 17:55.23 | Patlabor221 | then isolate it |
| 17:55.37 | Patlabor221 | noone said it was gonna be easy, mac just slaped it in, with out planing |
| 17:55.39 | Chestal | well, it must be done so for the game lib |
| 17:55.50 | Patlabor221 | exactly it has to be done anyway |
| 17:55.53 | Chestal | but probably noone really understands hwo the current classes worktogether |
| 17:56.00 | Patlabor221 | then somone should |
| 17:56.10 | Chestal | still, there's the question of server load |
| 17:56.27 | Patlabor221 | it won't be more then what a client does now |
| 17:56.38 | Chestal | well, yes |
| 17:56.45 | Chestal | butyou expect the client to eat CPU |
| 17:56.46 | Patlabor221 | and with no drawing it should be very low CPU |
| 17:56.49 | Chestal | the serevr should be close to 0 |
| 17:57.06 | Patlabor221 | then just make it a dumb releay and don't do any of this server side stuff |
| 17:57.07 | Chestal | would be nice to try and profile a client without gfx on a full server withlots of shots |
| 17:57.26 | Patlabor221 | ask the people who do the AI thing |
| 17:57.31 | Patlabor221 | they have a headleess one |
| 17:57.43 | Chestal | that's a good aprox. I guess |
| 17:57.53 | Chestal | client probably still does some 3D stuff, just not the drawing |
| 17:58.14 | Patlabor221 | you want to make it not do the vis calc |
| 17:58.32 | Chestal | the gfx and game state code isn't really all that seperate now |
| 17:58.39 | Chestal | so you cannot only measure one and not the other |
| 17:58.57 | Chestal | the client would do more than it must, sothe measurements would be an upper limit I guess |
| 17:59.03 | Patlabor221 | but it maters not for all the future things you need it |
| 18:00.41 | Chestal | well, when the side effects of the plans are so that it is not viable, then the plans must change |
| 18:00.49 | Chestal | I am just being cautious |
| 18:01.09 | Michaelh | simple enough idea to test isn't it ? |
| 18:01.19 | Chestal | which idea? |
| 18:01.31 | Michaelh | thowing shots etc into the server |
| 18:01.37 | Chestal | that's not sosimple |
| 18:01.43 | Chestal | not if you want to do it the right way |
| 18:02.08 | Michaelh | But i mean someone could test it and try it out without making the defacto standard |
| 18:03.01 | Michaelh | or perhaps revert the spawning back? |
| 18:03.35 | Chestal | in the short run us having moved the spawning code only has disadvantages |
| 18:03.48 | Chestal | the short term argument is anti-cheating |
| 18:03.57 | Chestal | but that's a very weak one actually |
| 18:04.11 | Michaelh | so the debate is whether to make the server authoritative with shots or just hold state from messages sent? |
| 18:04.39 | Chestal | well, there's severalaspects to this |
| 18:05.00 | Chestal | if server has full state it can do better spawns (slight worse then clients maybe) |
| 18:05.20 | Chestal | we can then also use it to make it authorative, which would change gameplay tosome extent |
| 18:05.41 | Chestal | and then there's the fact that it puts much more stress onto the server, the load has increased withthe latest revisons already |
| 18:05.42 | Michaelh | probably greatly really for dial up people |
| 18:05.46 | Chestal | so there are somepros and cons |
| 18:06.58 | Michaelh | not that dialup should ever the be the lowest common denomenator |
| 18:09.17 | Chestal | the question is how much it affects the majority which are in the 80-200ms latency range |
| 18:12.44 | Chestal | grmpf, I hate galeon's DNS-Caching |
| 18:36.50 | Michaelh | how would you parse a string like : argx='blahblah blah' argy='fasd asd laskdasd' if the arguments could contain =s and 's as well? |
| 18:37.38 | Chestal | how can the arguments contain a '? |
| 18:38.05 | Michaelh | If it was someone's callsign? |
| 18:38.12 | Chestal | then the syntax is broken |
| 18:38.20 | Chestal | theer's no way to differentiate it then |
| 18:38.30 | Michaelh | So you would have to escape it somehow right? |
| 18:38.37 | Chestal | yes, for example |
| 18:40.47 | Michaelh | How about using a format like this for commands sent to the server? |
| 18:41.14 | Michaelh | or perhaps for some of the commands |
| 18:41.46 | Chestal | not sure what the plans are for the / commands |
| 18:41.56 | Chestal | when you have to type them manually they should be easy to write |
| 18:44.11 | Chestal | furthermore I would liek to put more restrictions onto callsigns anyway |
| 18:44.45 | Michaelh | You mean like no backspaces? |
| 18:44.48 | Michaelh | :) |
| 18:45.18 | Michaelh | Even having spaces in things makes things difficult to parse |
| 18:45.37 | Michaelh | Can't imagine doing away with those though |
| 18:45.48 | Chestal | it depends whether we see a callsign as a unique identifier or just a name |
| 18:46.00 | Chestal | we now use it as the id for the permission system |
| 18:46.07 | Chestal | and I think it's good to not have spaces in ids |
| 18:46.30 | Chestal | mayeb it would be better to use an internal id at some point, i.e. for the central registry/karma |
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| 19:23.59 | Chestal | hmm, I get severalbugs with 1.10.2 and CTF |
| 19:24.11 | Chestal | not sure if they are all CTF related, probably not |
| 19:27.01 | larsl_56k | What bugs? |
| 19:28.02 | Chestal | lots of them |
| 19:28.10 | Chestal | first, tanks suddenly do not explode properly anymore |
| 19:28.12 | Chestal | only sometimes |
| 19:28.16 | david_v | Chestal: did bzfs on 59999 just shut down? |
| 19:28.18 | Chestal | usually, they don't go up in the air anymore |
| 19:28.25 | Chestal | I shut down all servers, sorry |
| 19:28.28 | Chestal | nasty bugs |
| 19:28.28 | david_v | er, why? |
| 19:28.32 | david_v | hmmm |
| 19:28.43 | Chestal | want tomake sure they are not interfering |
| 19:28.44 | david_v | what kind of bugs? |
| 19:28.53 | Chestal | starte da 1.10 CTF server and lots of prolems |
| 19:29.05 | Chestal | larsl: 2nd bug: after capture,tanks go nr |
| 19:29.17 | Chestal | 3rd bug: peopel have transparent shot syndrome, depth buffer bug? |
| 19:29.21 | david_v | but the 1.7 server? |
| 19:29.47 | Chestal | I stopped all servers but machien still says it has two ports open, hmm |
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| 19:30.30 | david_v | Chestal: i just don't see what's wrong with the 1.7 one |
| 19:30.31 | dabomb | uh oh. ducati is down |
| 19:30.43 | Chestal | not sure what's up |
| 19:30.47 | Chestal | david_v: nothing probably |
| 19:30.51 | dabomb | btw. ello everyone |
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| 19:30.54 | Chestal | david_v: but I wasn't sure if they affect 1.10 |
| 19:30.57 | Carnage | hi. |
| 19:31.00 | david_v | Chestal: ohhh |
| 19:31.02 | david_v | Chestal: k |
| 19:31.22 | david_v | will it be up soon, or should we try go elsewhere? |
| 19:31.26 | dabomb | Chestal: any experiments are going on? :) |
| 19:31.35 | david_v | hehe |
| 19:32.01 | Chestal | which one doyou need? |
| 19:32.07 | dabomb | 59999 |
| 19:32.12 | Chestal | ok, gues I can fire it up |
| 19:32.22 | david_v | thanks |
| 19:32.37 | dabomb | Chestal: btw, i was curious if you are going to set up 1.10 server with, errr, ducati rules. is ti going to happen? |
| 19:32.46 | david_v | yes, yes, yes. please :) |
| 19:32.50 | david_v | hehe it would be nice though |
| 19:32.57 | dabomb | yep |
| 19:33.05 | Chestal | should be running |
| 19:33.13 | Chestal | dabobm: I just tried, but there were too many bugs |
| 19:33.29 | david_v | heh. maybe in one month or so |
| 19:33.29 | dabomb | ah |
| 19:33.41 | david_v | alright we won't disturb you more i guess :) |
| 19:33.46 | david_v | back to action |
| 19:33.54 | dabomb | yep. merry xmas and stuff |
| 19:34.17 | dabomb | hope to see ya soon testing new 1.10 rabbit hunt + ducati rulez :) |
| 19:40.25 | shkoo | hmm. i think running over a BU with G should kill all the victim's teammembers. |
| 19:40.33 | Chestal | sveralother gfx bugs |
| 19:43.50 | Chestal | hmm, bad choice to reuse that port, lots of scripts contactign my server although it should be in no server list |
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| 20:11.16 | Blender_owl | lol |
| 20:21.55 | CIA-5 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): more on no-jump explosion |
| 20:23.45 | CIA-5 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): CTF nr bug |
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| 20:26.53 | CIA-5 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): protocol doc lags behind |
| 20:33.13 | Noodleman | "No person shall discharge an explosive device within the city..." |
| 20:33.18 | Noodleman | what the hey? |
| 20:33.20 | Noodleman | :-) |
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| 20:40.47 | Noodleman | i wonder where i can get dry ice... |
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| 20:43.49 | Noodleman | w00 |
| 20:43.59 | tapo2 | hi. got problems entering this channjel with my registered "tapo" nick... |
| 20:59.36 | |tim| | isn't there a ghost command? |
| 21:00.55 | |tim| | tapo2, try "/nickserv ghost tapo <password>" |
| 21:06.28 | tapo2 | aehm, ghost? we'll try |
| 21:06.41 | Patlabor221 | did you register your old nic? |
| 21:06.58 | Chestal | the problemis a no loner matching +e rule |
| 21:08.33 | *** mode/#bzflag [+e tapo!*tapo@*.dip.t-dialin.net] by Chestal |
| 21:09.24 | tapo2 | not no longer -- only "not on chrismas" :) |
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| 22:19.02 | kroboto | n/join #mandrake |
| 22:19.08 | kroboto | oops |
| 22:19.54 | kroboto | i've been playing too much bzflag huh? (or not enough?) |
| 22:21.14 | tapo | the n problem :-)) I ah that, too. Some days ago. |
| 22:21.22 | tapo | ah=had |
| 22:21.30 | david_v | hehe |
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| 23:23.16 | david_v | Chestal: Fortix-BiPs 5-3 |
| 23:23.29 | Pimpinella | wow |
| 23:23.31 | david_v | was a great match too, btw :) |
| 23:23.37 | david_v | very tough. i pushed my teamies like slaves ;) |
| 23:23.58 | Pimpinella | fortix is growing better n better |
| 23:23.59 | david_v | not really. but. i pushed them nevertheless :) |
| 23:24.09 | david_v | heh thx |
| 23:24.30 | david_v | going to watch a rematch now. unfortunately i'm too tired myself to play in it |
| 23:24.39 | david_v | and one of my teamies says he's very drunk... so it might go worse ;) |
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| 23:25.11 | Pimpinella | league should turn to 1.10 soon |
| 23:26.07 | Pimpinella | where do they play? |
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| 23:28.42 | david_v | we're playing on 59999 on Ducati if anybody is interested |
| 23:29.20 | Tux889 | you mean port 59999 |
| 23:29.23 | Tux889 | ? |
| 23:33.22 | david_v | yep |
| 23:33.32 | david_v | sorry i am switching between BZ and IRC all the time |
| 23:39.06 | Tux889 | oh your playing 1.10 |
| 23:39.06 | Tux889 | i dont like the new vertion as much as 1.7g2 |
| 23:39.28 | Tux889 | now if 1.7g2 had vota based kicking it would be even beter |
| 23:46.09 | david_v | er no i'm not playing 1.10 it's 1.7 heh |
| 23:46.19 | david_v | for this match anyway |
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