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00:17.14CIA03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (RobotPlayer.cxx): bot shoot taking into account target distance (but still still)
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00:22.03SGIhi
00:24.58MrApathyCreamlo
00:39.30MrApathyCreamcheck out xmission 1.9 :)
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01:34.04SGIelectric are you here
01:34.12ElectricElfSGI: Yep :)
01:34.43SGIcheck in xmission a guy called adult doesnt die PZ with SW
01:35.04ElectricElfSGI: I can't right now, unfortunately. My workstation is busy.
01:35.38ElectricElfI'll be able to in a minute or two.
01:37.00fiberchunksyes, adult manga is cheating
01:37.10fiberchunksshoots with PZ, and can't be killed with SW
01:37.43ElectricElfLoggin in.
01:38.22fiberchunksman, this is tiring...I haven't played in 3 months or so -- and today, played 3 times, and all three times, a cheater on the server I was on -- pathetic really
01:38.28fiberchunksand highly irritating
01:42.10ElectricElfYeah, thanks for pinging guys.
01:42.18SpiffPfff.  That sux0rz, fiber. :-(
01:42.33fiberchunkshence why I don't play much anymore spiff
01:42.51ElectricElffiberchunks: You've exceedingly bad luck :)
01:42.53fiberchunksall the servers I used to admin FFA-wise are now gone :\
01:42.58fiberchunksheh
01:43.02SpiffI wish more people would play on Quol's servers... the people who admin there are all good.
01:43.10SpiffAnd we're usually around too.
01:43.26fiberchunksI wouldn't know about him, since I was purple, and therefore not aiming at him :)
01:46.56MrApathyCreamxmission is full
01:52.51Nidhoggrw00
01:53.00Nidhoggrcool flag statistics
01:53.07Nidhoggrhttp://secretplace.us
01:53.10Nidhoggroop
01:53.11Nidhoggrwrong
01:53.15Nidhoggrbzflag.secretplace.us
01:56.22MrApathyCreamnifty
01:56.52SGItim can have more cops in that server
01:57.37MrApathyCreaminteresting that no flag has a higher kill/min than GM
01:57.48SpiffHehehe Apathy. :-)
01:57.54SpiffI think L could.. on some maps.
01:58.13MrApathyCreamyet, you get shot the least when holding GM
01:58.37ElectricElfSGI: Yeah, give it time.
01:58.41SGII can believe it
01:59.02SGII runned A "test" server yesterday night
01:59.24SGIand in the conf file I setup a map world
01:59.32SGIand now doesnt work
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01:59.37*** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *!*@68.111.116.228 *cell*!*@* *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net] by brunner.freenode.net
01:59.37*** mode/#bzflag [+bb *gorb*!*@* *sussudio*!*@*] by brunner.freenode.net
02:00.24SGII deleted that line from the conf file and wrote in the bat file and now is working
02:01.24SGItoday I hate my pc
02:02.04SGIElectricElf I have a new cheat client
02:02.09SGImagnet
02:02.20SGIonly for bad flags
02:02.29ElectricElfSGI: I'm tempted to ask Tim for some form of admin cheat-mode.
02:02.46ElectricElfxmission is a really busy server, and it's real hard to confirm whether somebody is cheating or not when everybody else keeps killing you.
02:02.50SGIif you check the log you'll see all bad flags are mine
02:03.21SGIyou need spend time and check the people if are really cheater
02:03.23ElectricElfSGI: I wondered what you meant about that.
02:03.33SGIand I learned alesson from last banned
02:03.46ElectricElfSGI: Yes. That's the problem. It can take upwards of 15 minutes just to get _close_ to a cheater on xmission.
02:03.55SGIwhich one
02:04.02ElectricElfSGI: Which one what?
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02:04.27Nidhoggrwhat is going on with freenode?
02:04.42SGIwhat you mean You asked me "what you mean with that"
02:05.02ElectricElfSGI: Ah, in xmission, you said "all the bad flags are mine".
02:05.07Nidhoggrno dns, etc., for irc.freenode.net, and my connection just died.
02:05.18SGIyes tonight I was lucky
02:05.20ElectricElfSGI: I had no idea what you were talking about. I still don't, not really, but now I at least know it has something to do with a client cheat :)
02:05.33SGII told you new cheat client "magnet"
02:05.51ElectricElfSGI: Yes. "only for bad flags" doesn't mean much :)
02:05.57SGIit was a joke
02:06.39SGIpeople have a cheat client for good flags
02:06.41Nidhoggrdid anyone take a look at the cool time based flag stats for secretplace?
02:07.10Nidhoggrwe've been collecting data for about 24 hours now
02:07.17SGISGI is so stupid he have a cheat client for bad flags :o)
02:08.30ElectricElfSGI: Ah. :)
02:08.30SGIbtw why doesnt load the maps from the conf file but if the map is in the bat file the server work
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02:17.22Nidhoggrhrm. tell ppl about new stats, and then the page breaks. :)
02:17.40Patlabor221?
02:19.07NidhoggrI'll show you when it's fixed again. :)
02:20.56Nidhoggrwe've been collecting data on the servers for about 24 hours, and we got some time-based flag statistics.  right now the web interface is being worked on though.
02:21.32Patlabor221ah
02:21.44Nidhoggrnew logging is awesome
02:22.03Patlabor221damn, ether someone is talking about me like mad, or I'm still sick, cus I'm sneezing up a storm
02:22.05NidhoggrI now have a perl script to parse logs for things that I watch for.
02:22.15Nidhoggrallergies, pat?
02:22.36Patlabor221nope
03:09.06MrApathyCreamNidhoggr: stats are nifty
03:09.42MrApathyCreamPatlabor221, enjoying the constantly dirty buildDate.cxx?
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03:56.57MrApathyCream-dmwaters- {global notice} Hi all, Our dns appears to be down, we are working on getting it fixed, but it might be a bit. I appologize for the trouble.
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04:15.00triclopsyay i can find internet servers via a proxy now
04:15.06triclopsfor bzflag
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04:29.42MrApathyCreamanother dead night
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04:43.55SpiffA hard day's night? :-)
04:43.56SpiffHehehe.
04:44.34triclopsi can find games from behind my http proxy now :)
04:45.48triclopseek its not working
04:45.56triclopsit was a moment ago
04:50.48triclopsstupid me, HTTP_PROXY needs to be set
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11:57.35Chestalhi Quol
11:57.51Quolhello Chestal - how R ya?
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12:43.51larslDoesn't CIA report patches anymore?
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13:28.55triclopseek, change resolution twice and bzflag appears to stop drawing the ground
13:30.14triclopslooks kinda trippy
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15:53.49triclopsls
15:53.54triclopswoops :)
15:54.40[dmp]hehe
15:56.35triclopshow do you convert the .raw screenshots to something useful?
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16:02.53mmu_manconvert ?
16:03.42triclopsi figured it out. rawtoppm 'converts' a raw image file into a ppm
16:04.07mmu_manyeah, convert should do it too :p
16:05.38triclopsoh yeah :) i can now let people visualise the funky rendering bug
16:10.22mmu_manif I only had funky rendering bugs, would be nice :p
16:10.34mmu_manI wish I could connect without crashing first =)
16:15.37triclopshehe. check out http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cbro903/bzflag/bzf_reschange_bug.jpg or .png
16:16.37larsl_schoolIck.
16:17.15triclopsthats after changing the resolution twice under X with a nvidia tnt2
16:19.10mmu_manso ?
16:19.44mmu_mandon't change rez; fixed :D
16:20.12mmu_manwould it be a problem in nvidia's driver ?
16:20.58larsl_schoolI think that I've changed window size several times on my computer (Linux, X, nVidia GF2MX). Was this the window size or screen resolution?
16:21.07triclopshehe. it might, but i've never seen it before in any GL stuff.
16:21.18triclopsit was a res change in fullscreen
16:21.47larsl_schoolI'll have to try that when I get home.
16:22.01triclopsoh and changing res in a window creates all sorts of issues too :)
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16:23.13mmu_manbtw, anyone has an strace of bzflag after connecting to a server ?
16:23.22mmu_manI can't do that on beos, wonder why
16:23.33mmu_manbut an strace from linux could maybe help me spot the bug
16:23.49larsl_schoolI'll see if I can start it over X.
16:23.55larsl_schoolOver X over SSH.
16:23.59mmu_maneh
16:26.12larsl_schoolWow, it starts.
16:26.22larsl_schoolBut using a remote software renderer isn't fast. =)
16:27.53mmu_manTupone ?
16:27.58mmu_manI'm firewalled
16:28.02mmu_manwhat's this ?
16:28.02Tuponestrace scripted
16:28.19mmu_manmailto:revol@free.fr ?
16:32.36Tuponemmu_man: got?
16:37.17mmu_mannot yet
16:37.26mmu_manbut my webmail lags
16:43.01Tuponemmu_man: can you enable dcc?
16:44.00mmu_manwhat ports are needed ?
16:45.09Tupone1025 ?
16:45.21mmu_manlet's try that
16:45.40Chestaldcc usually uses dynamic ports
16:46.10mmu_manyeah, well let's try anyway
16:46.22Chestalsender listens
16:46.40mmu_manhmm, yeah btw
16:46.44mmu_man"Connecting to sender"
16:46.49mmu_manmust be you who are fwed :p
16:47.11mmu_mantcp     patrick.lan:40867       ppp-217-133-163-1:33301 OPENED                Vision:DCC Receive
16:47.18mmu_manoh, got it
16:47.20mmu_manthx
16:48.01mmu_manwill look at it later
16:48.25mmu_manshould help me to follow the control flow
16:48.52TuponeIt's a lot of data. I don't know where tou start from that
16:49.08mmu_manprolly the connect() :)
16:49.16mmu_manas it connects here
16:49.36mmu_manthe worst is I can't even get a stack crawl
16:49.48mmu_manas the thread gets killed before I even have the opportunity
16:50.28Tuponethreads?
16:50.48mmu_manthe main thread
16:50.54mmu_manBeOS uses threads everywhere :p
16:51.08mmu_maneven for debugging
16:51.24mmu_manwhen you debug a prog, it spawns itself a debugging thread to talk to the debugger =)
16:53.36mmu_mancheat ? oh my !
16:53.47triclopsits a proof of concept :)
16:54.46triclopsyou can spawn directly on top of someone with a burrow flag.
17:12.59SpiffLoL tri
17:13.02SpiffInteresting. ;-)
17:13.41triclopsgidday spiff
17:13.52SpiffHiyaz. :-)
17:15.06triclopsdiscovered that one when i entered a game -solo 32, and wondered why i kept dying when no one was near me and i had the burrow flag :)
17:17.01Quolany ducati admins here?
17:17.07[dmp]yep
17:17.22Quolthere is a TK (twinklecheeks)
17:17.23david_vi am here too as a backup... if needed :)
17:17.30david_vbut [dmp] do you mind?
17:19.56triclopshmm, sun rises in a few hours. i'm going to bed.
17:34.52[dmp]david_v: no, i didnt mind :)
17:41.12david_vhehe
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18:13.31SpiffMmm.. lunch. :-D
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18:43.56SpiffHey Noodleman. :-)
18:44.05SpiffGuard your shins! ;-)  LoL!  J/k. :-)
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18:57.28Noodlemanf00m
18:59.55SpiffWhat's f00m? ;-)
19:01.41Noodlemanm00f backwards :-)
19:03.02SpiffScary.  So you're a backwards cow. ;)
19:03.14captain_protonnot a backwards cow
19:03.33captain_protondogcow
19:03.34Noodlemanjust backwards, right?
19:03.40Noodlemanhehe
19:04.34SpiffHehehe.  Well f00m to you too then. :-)
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19:11.39larsl~bzfquery glasstowers.homelinux.net
19:15.26larslfailed: http://BZFlag.SourceForge.net/list-server.txt
19:15.37larslIs something wrong with the list server list?
19:15.57Patlabor221works for me
19:16.01larslI see it in the browser.
19:16.01Patlabor221bzflist://12.237.229.200:5156/
19:16.32larsl-publiclist that address works.
19:16.38larslThanks.
19:17.15larslOdd that the http address doesn't work (it's the default address in the 1.7g2 server).
19:18.49Patlabor221tim did some changin to it
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19:38.07drinian~d
19:39.57drinian~hashmark
19:41.20drinian~xmission
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20:00.21drinianDoes anybody know why bzflag.com is not resolving on dns?
20:00.42larslDid it use to?
20:00.51drinianyes
20:01.12larslWhat is there?
20:01.21Patlabor221.com?
20:01.27Patlabor221tim does now own .com
20:01.27captain_protonlarsl: i think its just an alias to .org
20:01.32drinianyes
20:01.32Patlabor221only .org
20:01.38drinian.com used to work
20:01.46Patlabor221.org is the ofical
20:01.48captain_protonPatlabor221: i thought he bought .com
20:01.54Patlabor221ahh that's right
20:02.11Patlabor221Tim moved all his stuff, maybe he didn't fix up .com
20:02.12drinianup to this weekend it worked.
20:02.17Patlabor221use .org
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20:03.04Patlabor221I think it's now on a dynamic IP
20:03.08drinianthe bzflag client isn't showing a server list for me either.
20:03.21captain_protondrinian: tried `bzflag -list default` ?
20:03.50drinianI'll try it.
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20:04.36Patlabor221G2 shows serves for me
20:04.36driniannot getting anything
20:05.12Patlabor221perhaps your dns has yet to update, if he chainged the domain
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20:05.33drinianhmm...it started yesterday
20:05.35captain_protonPatlabor221: then it would just resolve wrong, it wouldn't fail to resolve
20:05.43Patlabor221true
20:05.43drinianThink it would take that long?
20:05.45Patlabor221odd then
20:06.00drinianibot shows people on there
20:06.02drinian: wish i knew
20:06.29drinianwhat's the url for the list?
20:07.11Patlabor221http://www.bzflag.org/list-server.txt
20:07.35Patlabor221and it's showing, bzflist://12.237.229.200:5156/
20:07.59drinianhmmm
20:08.17larsldrinian: I had some problems with that, when I told bzfs to look at the http address it wouldn't work, when I gave it the bzflist:// directly it did.
20:09.49drinianlarsl: how do you do that?
20:10.13larslFor the server, -publiclist bzflist://12.237.229.200:5156
20:10.22larslFor the client I think it's -list bzflist://12.237.229.200:5156
20:11.22drinianlarsl: that works.
20:12.02larslYou should only need to do that once for the client, it will get saved in your config file.
20:12.03drinianIs the default list set to .com rather than .org?
20:12.33larslThe default list is on bzflag.sourceforge.net.
20:13.04larslThat's what my server thinks anyway.
20:13.30drinianyes, I remember seeing that somewhere.
20:13.41drinianI can http browse to it fine.
20:13.46larslMe too.
20:14.09larslMaybe it's doing some HTTP voodoo that bzfs/bzflag doesn't support.
20:15.11drinianperhaps, becuase I several computers here with bzflag on them and they all stopped showing the server list
20:15.17drinianI have
20:15.31drinianover the weekend
20:21.34Patlabor221hmmmm, if on a server Cell = an admin, you gotta know something's up
20:23.40larslThe Cell?
20:24.33Patlabor221can not be sure, but it would seem like that
20:25.06Patlabor221the jayclespace servers have allways seemd a bit "iffy" to me
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21:28.37Spiff~seen Carnage
21:28.38carnage <strayer@dyn216-8-133-126.ADSL.mnsi.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 23h 3m 41s ago, saying: 'cya guys later'.
21:33.12Spiff~seen benson
21:33.13i haven't seen 'benson', Spiff
21:33.16Spiff~seen bens
21:33.16Spiff: i haven't seen 'bens'
21:34.20SpiffHmm.
22:00.23[dmp]saw him online yesterday for a short period.
22:00.49SpiffI see him on AIM once in a while.. but rarely on BZ.
22:01.45[dmp]normally i dont play after midnight, so there is alot of people i dont see :-)
22:03.23larslhttp://tinyurl.com/oz83
22:03.30larslLet me know what you think, and if you want a password.
22:03.38[dmp]just read it
22:04.12[dmp]i know a few players who have been missing a "password protected" server.. Which I guess this is at some level.
22:05.37larslIt's a bit more complicated to do it like this than to just have one global password for the server, but on the other hand you don't have to change the password if one of the players turns out to be an idiot.
22:09.18[dmp]But I think its a nice feature. If I had a server, i woudl properly use it :)
22:11.32[dmp]Would actually I like per-user-passwords better than a global password. A global password can get into the wrong hands and then you need to change it, and tell everyone that its changed. By doing it this way, I would guard my identify, as if anyone gets my password, they virtually would be 'me' (in some sense).
22:12.57[dmp]Night everybody.
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22:30.28asdf_homegood morning
22:30.28SGIhi
22:30.32SGIhi Legolas
22:30.51SGImorning
22:31.07SGI6.30 pm here
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23:57.52*** part/#bzflag Agent86 (Agent86@1Cust136.tnt5.dfw9.da.uu.net)

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