| 00:00.22 | HughOrca | Ask him, you will be surprised by the answer you get. |
| 00:00.32 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 00:00.55 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (bzadmin.cxx): added version.h for the version funcs |
| 00:00.56 | fiberchunks | he's talking to himself (much like his father), but luckily, is not yet answering himself |
| 00:02.02 | larsl | Is playing.cxx rebuilt everytime I type 'make' now? |
| 00:02.23 | Katana | yes |
| 00:02.43 | Katana | it makes calls to the build version |
| 00:03.08 | larsl | Wouldn't it be enough to link them again? |
| 00:03.28 | larsl | And just compile the file with the version functions? |
| 00:03.48 | Katana | yes, but there is no such file |
| 00:04.04 | Katana | that would be a version.c file |
| 00:04.46 | larsl | 1 minute for an empty build. |
| 00:05.02 | Katana | I just made the header thing do what it's "supposed" to do for better or worse (update the build version every build properly) |
| 00:05.28 | Katana | the funcs should be separated and just relinked |
| 00:05.41 | Katana | instead of being inlined funcs |
| 00:05.44 | Katana | from a header |
| 00:07.35 | larsl | Didn't it work on Mac earlier? |
| 00:08.49 | TimRikerHome | larsl: should work now. |
| 00:09.09 | larsl | It's compiling. |
| 00:09.13 | TimRikerHome | I'm building one at the moment. |
| 00:09.39 | Tupone | for that kinda thing: can we do just a extern and generate something like builddate.cxx only just before linking, if linking is necessary |
| 00:10.13 | Tupone | if nothing change we save building time and more, we know nothing has changed |
| 00:10.21 | TimRikerHome | patches welcome |
| 00:10.34 | Tupone | contribution welcome? |
| 00:10.40 | TimRikerHome | that too |
| 00:12.27 | larsl | Weird. When it has compiled everything, it goes back and compiles some files again. |
| 00:12.41 | larsl | Looks like those that depend on version.h. |
| 00:13.20 | Katana | version.h is touched after a build |
| 00:13.53 | larsl | Ah, so it's probably when it does 'make install'. |
| 00:15.48 | larsl | TimRikerHome: Very nice! rpm -tb gave me a working RPM with all the binaries and data. |
| 00:16.17 | larsl | It looks like the release wasn't defined though, the RPM is called bzflag-1.9.3.20030919-ELEASE.i586.rpm |
| 00:16.26 | larsl | Hm. |
| 00:16.26 | TimRikerHome | larsl: gee thanx. ;-) working out the double include warnings now. |
| 00:16.36 | larsl | That's ELEASE |
| 00:16.44 | TimRikerHome | heh. %RELEASE |
| 00:16.45 | larsl | That's <percent>RELEASE |
| 00:17.02 | TimRikerHome | that one should be fixed in cvs now. |
| 00:19.52 | larsl | The RPM thinks that it depends on my nVidia drivers though. I'll have to do something about that. |
| 00:20.10 | larsl | I could build them on the computer without nVidia drivers. |
| 00:20.40 | TimRikerHome | hmm. %RELEASE is back... |
| 00:20.56 | TimRikerHome | Katana: and replaces with what? |
| 00:21.17 | TimRikerHome | Katana: the idea was to _do_ a touch. that forces the date to get updated. |
| 00:21.22 | TimRikerHome | ~fishslap Katana |
| 00:21.24 | | ACTION slaps Katana up side the head with a wet fish. |
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| 00:22.38 | Ruudi | hi |
| 00:22.44 | larsl | Hello. |
| 00:22.51 | Katana | Tim, but you don't want it to rebuild just for the hell of it every time you do a make |
| 00:23.12 | larsl | ~country .ee |
| 00:23.12 | | extra, extra, read all about it, country .ee is estonia |
| 00:23.28 | Katana | this is a close second best until there is a version.c file that can be linked |
| 00:23.33 | larsl | .EE? That doesn't really make sense. |
| 00:23.41 | TimRikerHome | Katana: in fact you do. well, what you really want is to make those if you make anything else, but by the time you know that it's too late. |
| 00:23.41 | Ruudi | hmm why not? |
| 00:23.54 | TimRikerHome | Katana: so you _do_ want to make those every time. |
| 00:23.56 | larsl | Ruudi: Why two E? |
| 00:23.57 | Katana | the dates will be the actual compilation date of the file that reports a version |
| 00:24.11 | Ruudi | one E would be weird that' |
| 00:24.13 | Ruudi | s |
| 00:24.14 | Ruudi | why :) |
| 00:24.14 | bryjen | how's it spelled in its native language? and what .e_ were available |
| 00:24.18 | larsl | =) |
| 00:24.23 | Ruudi | eesti |
| 00:24.27 | larsl | Ah, OK. |
| 00:24.49 | bryjen | ~country .se |
| 00:24.50 | | well, country .se is sweden |
| 00:24.57 | larsl | ~country .ll |
| 00:25.08 | Katana | well, I can leave it, but it is certainly annoying to have it rebuild every time when nothing has really changed |
| 00:25.31 | Ruudi | well ee or et who cares |
| 00:25.57 | Katana | ld: Undefined symbols: |
| 00:25.57 | Katana | Player::setDeadReckoning() |
| 00:26.04 | Katana | for bzadmin |
| 00:26.13 | larsl | Again? |
| 00:26.20 | larsl | Did someone make that not inline? |
| 00:26.24 | Katana | it's never gone away for me |
| 00:26.36 | Ruudi | ok i'm off to bed good night |
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| 00:27.08 | larsl | Odd, it's supposed to be an inline function defined in a header included by ServerLink.cxx (which is a part of bzadmin). |
| 00:27.35 | MrApathyCream | larsl think chestal reverted |
| 00:27.54 | larsl | But I reverted it back again. =) |
| 00:28.04 | MrApathyCream | ah dunno |
| 00:28.15 | larsl | And it builds for me, so it can't be that. |
| 00:33.18 | Katana | eep.. just lost power |
| 00:33.25 | Katana | GO UPS! |
| 00:37.00 | Katana | hrm.. maybe I have a stale .o laying around messing it up for bzadmin -- lemme clean up |
| 00:37.39 | Katana | nope |
| 00:38.04 | larsl | Which GCC? |
| 00:38.23 | Katana | gcc (GCC) 3.1 20020420 |
| 00:38.45 | larsl | 3.2.2 here. |
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| 00:54.25 | TimRikerHome | builds here ok |
| 01:04.43 | TimRikerHome | rpm -tb seem to be correct now. spec file is touched by configure. we should distritute the "make dist" tarball which works. a cvs tar etc might not properly build and include the bzflag.spec |
| 01:05.00 | TimRikerHome | there is no more need to distribute a .src.rpm |
| 01:06.04 | TimRikerHome | off to put the kids to bed... |
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| 01:21.22 | Katana | okay, i wipsed everything away, checked out, and built |
| 01:21.35 | learner | now I get |
| 01:21.41 | learner | make: *** No rule to make target `ServerLink.cxx', needed by `ServerLink.o'. Stop. |
| 01:26.25 | bryjen | in bzadmin ? |
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| 02:01.40 | SGI | hi |
| 02:03.48 | bryjen | ~seen Bagheera |
| 02:03.48 | | bagheera <~Bagheera@pool-162-84-20-170.sal.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 5h 20m 46s ago, saying: 'give it time'. |
| 02:04.26 | MrApathyCream | learner is -filterChat and -filterSimple mutually exclusive? |
| 02:05.31 | learner | no they are not |
| 02:05.41 | learner | that error was in bzadmin |
| 02:06.26 | learner | filterSimple basically says that when you do filtering, do it in a simple filterword==word match style |
| 02:06.42 | learner | filterchat explicitly turns on chat filtering in the server |
| 02:07.21 | learner | filterSimple is basically for backwards compatibility -- it's the original filtering when you enable that |
| 02:07.37 | MrApathyCream | learner so you can have both on? |
| 02:08.03 | learner | yes, though you probably don't want filterSimple unless there's some specific need for it |
| 02:08.09 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 02:08.10 | MrApathyCream | thanks |
| 02:08.13 | learner | like a cpu/memory issue |
| 02:09.14 | learner | and even if there are cpu/memory issues, it's better to trim down the filter itself than to fall back to simple filtering |
| 02:10.03 | bryjen | ibot: botsnack |
| 02:10.03 | | bryjen: thanks |
| 02:11.20 | MrApathyCream | learner: so are the 5 -vote options set now? no more changes to them? |
| 02:11.53 | learner | 5? |
| 02:12.18 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.18 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.18 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.18 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.18 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.19 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.26 | learner | ah, thx |
| 02:12.51 | MrApathyCream | are they all staying, is any changing, any others? |
| 02:12.52 | learner | yes they are final |
| 02:12.59 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 02:18.43 | learner | there goes the power again |
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| 02:34.40 | bryjen | ibot: bryjen |
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| 02:37.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_pistachi] by ChanServ |
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| 02:41.55 | TimRiker | -badword probably ought to be -filter |
| 02:43.47 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/misc (bzfs_conf.html): default port is now 5154 |
| 02:43.53 | TimRiker | well, final is never true... but probably until a karma system. ;-) |
| 02:44.01 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/misc (bzfs_conf.html): New Flags! |
| 02:44.10 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/misc (bzfs_conf.html): add filtering stuff |
| 02:44.18 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (bzflag.spec.in): %RELEASE, duplicate includes |
| 02:44.22 | ElectricElf | Oh, oh, new flags! :) |
| 02:45.31 | ElectricElf | TimRiker: Have you gotten a port from IANA? |
| 02:47.15 | learner | yes he did |
| 02:47.21 | bryjen | ElectricElf: i believe 5154 is registered |
| 02:47.30 | ElectricElf | Ah, spiffy. |
| 02:50.55 | TimRiker | yes, 5154 is registered. |
| 02:52.21 | TimRiker | http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers |
| 02:55.35 | learner | hrm.. lemme look at it in mac ie |
| 03:00.16 | SGI | ~dict queque |
| 03:00.42 | bryjen | ~dict queue |
| 03:00.53 | SGI | thanks |
| 03:01.34 | SGI | bryjen thank you |
| 03:01.43 | bryjen | you're welcome |
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| 03:22.58 | TimRiker | http://www.eff.org/share/petition/ <- idle reading |
| 03:26.00 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (2 files): try to be less-hackish with ServerLink.cxx |
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| 03:38.48 | Spiff | ~nslookup 68.111.116.228 |
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| 03:45.29 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 03:45.58 | Chikorita | hmmpf |
| 03:46.35 | fiberchunks | good read tim :) |
| 03:47.35 | Spiff | ~seen sussudio |
| 03:47.35 | | sussudio <Suss@81.68.133.229> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 24d 6h 13m 12s ago, saying: 'talking about jerks......'. |
| 03:47.47 | Spiff | ~seen KnightMare |
| 03:47.47 | | knightmare <1000@ip68-107-165-224.lu.dl.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 242d 22h 28m 16s ago, saying: 'ok, thanks for the help... gotta go :)'. |
| 03:48.05 | Spiff | Aha. Gotcha. |
| 03:48.32 | Spiff | Well.... that's another person to add to my list of rude people. :-) |
| 04:02.06 | learner | that fixed my bzadmin woes |
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| 04:22.18 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (CmdLineOptions.cxx): sort anyone? really need a table for all this |
| 04:23.26 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (2 files): rpm |
| 04:24.00 | TimRiker | learner: the Makefile.am ServerLink.cxx fix? |
| 04:27.34 | Spiff | Spiffy's gonna go to bed. C-yaz. |
| 04:38.05 | learner | TimRiker: yes |
| 04:41.22 | TimRiker | sweet. |
| 04:41.59 | TimRiker | danger is if you edit the one in bzadmin/ then the next time the one in bzflag is updated, your's will get overwritten. |
| 04:42.35 | TimRiker | we really need to fix up the source so that hackery is not needed. |
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| 05:20.09 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (2 files): bzflag.lsm.in |
| 05:20.27 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (bzflag.lsm.in): lsm |
| 05:20.57 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): BZVERSION dies |
| 05:22.13 | learner | might even start playing with the options on if the bug is really gone |
| 05:22.29 | JBDiGriz | I might as well have them on during the testing phase |
| 05:23.21 | learner | Hmm.. |
| 05:23.37 | learner | Flash Flood Warnings now hitting all the tv channels |
| 05:23.48 | JBDiGriz | Stay dry |
| 05:24.14 | JBDiGriz | I'm heading out, 'nite |
| 05:28.23 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): speeling |
| 05:29.45 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (.cvsignore): lsm |
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| 06:02.52 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): laser info, version.c |
| 06:04.52 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (6 files in 4 dirs): controversial GM shorting to 0.95 |
| 06:05.02 | captain_proton | scandalous! |
| 06:05.25 | TimRiker | ;-) |
| 06:05.52 | TimRiker | it's now in bzdb so it's even tunable. ;-) |
| 06:07.49 | TimRiker | any way to see a variable? |
| 06:08.03 | TimRiker | /set <var> does not do it. |
| 06:08.19 | captain_proton | hmm, didn't MAC add a command for that? /print or somesuch |
| 06:11.16 | TimRiker | /set <var> should do it... |
| 06:16.21 | captain_proton | wouldn't be hard to do |
| 06:29.00 | TimRiker | captain_proton: can you always read an entry? ie: /set <foo> would not need a permissions check? |
| 06:29.13 | TimRiker | server password does not go in there does it? etc. |
| 06:32.17 | captain_proton | TimRiker: yes, there's no perm to disallow read |
| 06:32.31 | TimRiker | k |
| 06:32.33 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): /set <var> displays |
| 06:32.53 | captain_proton | i can concieve of a situation where that may not be the case, but we can cross that bridge if we come to it |
| 06:33.00 | TimRiker | agreed |
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| 06:36.42 | captain_proton | yay, navi is starting to look like a media fileserver again |
| 06:37.54 | Chikorita | :) |
| 06:37.59 | Chikorita | hi cap |
| 06:38.03 | captain_proton | 'allo |
| 06:38.27 | Chikorita | talkin 2 urself again? |
| 06:38.31 | Chikorita | like mee |
| 06:38.33 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 06:38.35 | captain_proton | sure |
| 06:38.59 | Chikorita | i cant wait 2 c da new version wen it comes out |
| 06:40.23 | Chikorita | wil it require every1 to d/l it? |
| 06:40.43 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 06:40.47 | Chikorita | i mean , wil da new flags b present on da current servers up? |
| 06:40.55 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 06:41.37 | Chikorita | so 1.7e cannot play wif sum1 wif 1.9? |
| 06:41.43 | captain_proton | no |
| 06:42.02 | Chikorita | or they can , buh 1.9 can only use da new flags , an such |
| 06:42.12 | captain_proton | no, 1.7 won't even connect to a 1.9 server |
| 06:42.14 | captain_proton | and vice versa |
| 06:42.17 | Chikorita | o i c |
| 06:42.40 | Chikorita | so it'll b a new listserver for 1.9 only users |
| 06:42.45 | Chikorita | i c |
| 06:42.59 | Chikorita | njus like it iz now iguess :P |
| 06:43.15 | TimRiker | xmission:5154 password is p - test away. |
| 06:43.19 | Chikorita | only 3 1.9 servers now |
| 06:43.22 | Chikorita | o i c |
| 06:43.30 | Chikorita | k |
| 06:43.32 | Chikorita | nbrb |
| 06:43.55 | TimRiker | Chikorita: I don't suppose we could talk you into speaking normally? |
| 06:44.03 | TimRiker | heh. too late. |
| 06:44.36 | TimRiker | join me on xmission:5154 ? |
| 06:44.42 | TimRiker | testing fw issues. |
| 06:44.50 | captain_proton | i'll have to update |
| 06:44.51 | captain_proton | hang on |
| 06:46.45 | TimRiker | ah. I think I hear a kid crying anyway. we'll do it later. |
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| 07:08.47 | Chikorita | i couldnt find it |
| 07:09.26 | Chikorita | i have 1.9 version08.18 |
| 07:10.46 | Chikorita | so do all da current server hosts hafta redo their maps in 1.9 to put in on da new 1.9 listserver? |
| 07:11.17 | Chikorita | since 1.9 has map changes 2 it |
| 07:11.28 | captain_proton | 1.9 will run 1.7 maps |
| 07:11.34 | Chikorita | o okies , kewl |
| 07:12.18 | Chikorita | wow a bigger ducati map , dat allows more playerz , would b so kewl :) |
| 07:12.36 | Chikorita | c how it works out :P |
| 07:12.41 | Chikorita | 5v5 |
| 07:12.46 | Chikorita | heehe |
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| 09:12.56 | strayer | hello |
| 09:18.20 | strayer | can anyone tell me why the bz-serverdescription of 1.9 changed to a different style than it was before? > BZFS107x to BZFS19xx ?!? |
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| 10:10.48 | bomber | moin |
| 10:12.10 | strayer | hi bomber :) |
| 10:22.09 | bomber | hey strayer |
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| 11:44.11 | rooter | i just tried out the Rabbit game for the 1st time |
| 11:44.14 | rooter | pretty cool! |
| 11:45.08 | larsl | It can probably be really fun when we get more players on the new servers. |
| 11:45.19 | rooter | yes |
| 11:45.49 | rooter | it was a little boring because the only person there seemed new |
| 11:46.04 | rooter | but with 5-6 people... it would be great |
| 11:46.41 | rooter | what are the new flags? I found burrow (didn't like) and thief |
| 11:47.59 | larsl | There was one "Useless" flag too, I don't know if that's still there. |
| 11:48.24 | rooter | i wasn't used to the jumping |
| 11:49.17 | rooter | i don't think any flag should make the tank invincible to all except one other specific flag |
| 11:49.33 | rooter | like burrow -> steamroller |
| 11:50.06 | larsl | Burrow doesn't make you invincible. |
| 11:50.24 | rooter | how can someone kill you... besides using steamroller? |
| 11:50.26 | larsl | Anyone can kill a burrow by driving on top of it, without steamroller. |
| 11:50.31 | rooter | aaaah |
| 11:50.37 | rooter | that makes more sense |
| 11:50.46 | rooter | cool... it's not so bad now |
| 11:51.11 | larsl | SW and GM probably work too. |
| 11:51.46 | rooter | i've never liked GM |
| 11:52.04 | larsl | Hehe, me neither. =) |
| 11:52.19 | larsl | It ruins my strategy in CTF games. |
| 11:52.23 | rooter | and i suck at using SW |
| 11:52.56 | rooter | maybe i should go to other servers besides ducati :) |
| 11:53.11 | rooter | i suck when there are super flags around |
| 11:53.15 | rooter | or jumping |
| 11:53.23 | rooter | or more than 2 bullets |
| 11:58.44 | rooter | are there other enhances to the client? |
| 11:59.30 | learner | you can also kill burrow by burrowing yourself and just shooting |
| 11:59.54 | rooter | what do you mean "burrowing yourself"? |
| 12:00.19 | learner | you grab a burrow flag |
| 12:00.32 | rooter | yeah |
| 12:00.34 | rooter | i did that and shot just fine |
| 12:00.46 | rooter | oh |
| 12:00.49 | rooter | sorry |
| 12:00.52 | rooter | i misunderstood you |
| 12:00.53 | rooter | got you |
| 12:01.01 | rooter | it's too early |
| 12:01.52 | rooter | lol... bz hell |
| 12:02.11 | larsl | The rendering gets odd when you do that though. |
| 12:02.12 | tea|tree_ | ehehe |
| 12:02.15 | tea|tree_ | hello guys |
| 12:02.19 | rooter | hello TeA |
| 12:02.32 | tea|tree_ | r000000000000t |
| 12:02.33 | tea|tree_ | :D |
| 12:02.37 | rooter | :) |
| 12:02.53 | rooter | i should start playing with the bz code |
| 12:03.11 | rooter | i've been meaning to ever since i've started playing this game |
| 12:03.36 | rooter | and i haven't because i've been too busy playing |
| 12:03.49 | larsl | rooter: One of my favorite features in next version is that a lot of the game parameters can be changed without touching the source code. |
| 12:03.54 | larsl | At runtime. |
| 12:04.09 | larsl | Gravity, shot speed, SW size etc. |
| 12:04.16 | rooter | cool... but i mean helping in devel |
| 12:07.58 | rooter | there are some things i would like to see in future releases |
| 12:09.07 | larsl | What would you like to see? |
| 12:09.29 | rooter | ramps... which would imply that tanks can be at an angle |
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| 12:10.13 | learner | blah |
| 12:10.19 | rooter | um... does it do any compression for network traffic? |
| 12:10.45 | larsl | I don't think so. |
| 12:11.04 | larsl | We have zlib in the source tree, I don't think it's used. |
| 12:11.50 | rooter | that would be nice... kind of like apache's mod_gzip |
| 12:12.02 | rooter | it would cut down on lag |
| 12:12.22 | rooter | but require a little bit more procesing by server & client |
| 12:12.30 | larsl | Would it really do that? |
| 12:12.40 | larsl | The packages that we are sending are pretty small already. |
| 12:12.40 | rooter | sure |
| 12:12.45 | rooter | true |
| 12:12.52 | larsl | packets. |
| 12:13.00 | rooter | but it would be something to test |
| 12:13.12 | larsl | Yes, definitely worth experimenting with. |
| 12:14.03 | larsl | It should at least be used for the world (and other data like models and textures, if we get that going). |
| 12:14.38 | rooter | yeah... in the future there will only be a larger amount to send |
| 12:16.02 | rooter | world models would be very nice |
| 12:16.34 | rooter | there is limited things one can do with blocks and pyramids |
| 12:18.38 | rooter | shooting through pyramids that aren't Z=0 is irritating when designing a map |
| 12:18.57 | larsl | Fixed in CVS. |
| 12:19.13 | rooter | :) i sound like i'm complaining... but really this is the only game i've played for a year |
| 12:19.21 | larsl | You can also drive on the bottom of upside-down pyramids now. |
| 12:19.35 | rooter | ooohhhh... cool beans |
| 12:19.37 | rooter | i like that |
| 12:20.48 | rooter | being able to target a player (highlight) would be cool |
| 12:21.03 | learner | there is also a thief flag |
| 12:21.14 | rooter | i saw that... what does it do exaclty? |
| 12:21.17 | rooter | exactly |
| 12:21.26 | larsl | Steals the flag that the victim is carrying. |
| 12:21.30 | learner | it steals someone elses flag |
| 12:21.35 | rooter | when you shoot them? |
| 12:22.08 | learner | you shoot out a bunch of "theif-lasers" that capture if you hit a target |
| 12:22.33 | larsl | That could be really interesting in CTF. |
| 12:22.45 | learner | there's also an auto-pilot mode, which is a basic bot player |
| 12:22.47 | rooter | ah... do the thief-lasers work like regular laser (without the kill)? |
| 12:22.56 | learner | not quite the same |
| 12:23.04 | rooter | bot scripting would be cool |
| 12:23.04 | learner | they are shorter and wider |
| 12:23.11 | learner | no scripting yet |
| 12:23.12 | larsl | One player is carrying his team flag at his base, enemy player shoots him with thief flag from his base. |
| 12:23.32 | rooter | dynamic maps would be cool |
| 12:23.38 | learner | rabbit-style gameplay is a new game mode |
| 12:23.44 | rooter | larsl: ooooh.... cool |
| 12:23.53 | rooter | learner: yeah... i just tried that this morning |
| 12:24.14 | larsl | And worlds can be arbitrarily large. |
| 12:24.20 | larsl | Or is there a limit? |
| 12:24.38 | learner | there is also *ahem* client and server side bad word filtering |
| 12:24.46 | rooter | :) |
| 12:25.02 | larsl | learner: Do the client filter use the same algorithm as the server filter? |
| 12:25.23 | rooter | it seems that there usually aren't enough players on a server to make the map bigger than it already is |
| 12:25.23 | learner | so you can keep a file of words that you don't want to see and you won't see them |
| 12:25.42 | rooter | but it would be nice to be able to make it smaller |
| 12:25.50 | learner | larsl, yes they can -- unless the server is told to use the original simple filtering |
| 12:26.04 | learner | but by default, they are the same filter |
| 12:26.24 | larsl | ~weather essb |
| 12:26.36 | learner | there is also *ahem* a new voting system |
| 12:26.40 | rooter | private servers (passwd protected) |
| 12:26.43 | rooter | i've heard about that |
| 12:26.46 | rooter | i like the idea |
| 12:26.54 | larsl | And *ahem* a new text client. =) |
| 12:26.55 | rooter | saves the admin the time |
| 12:26.59 | rooter | ? |
| 12:27.05 | learner | =) @ larsl |
| 12:27.06 | rooter | for observers? |
| 12:27.12 | larsl | rooter: Yes. |
| 12:27.18 | rooter | cool... i like that too |
| 12:27.33 | larsl | It doesn't work on Windows yet though. |
| 12:27.37 | larsl | Maybe not Mac either. |
| 12:27.39 | rooter | sometimes i'll be waiting for a teamie and want to work on something else |
| 12:27.45 | learner | it works on mac just fine |
| 12:27.46 | rooter | i use all three |
| 12:28.28 | learner | speaking of which, larsl -- tim made some changes to the ServerLink hack last night that got everything compiling cleanly again |
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| 12:28.37 | larsl | Oh, very nice. |
| 12:29.12 | rooter | hello Sniper50 |
| 12:29.19 | Sniper50 | hi |
| 12:29.29 | rooter | what method is used to compile on macs? |
| 12:29.53 | larsl | s/PBCurses/PDCurses/ |
| 12:30.35 | learner | The Macs can either compile using a Project Builder project (the "Apple" way) or by using the unix autotools-based makefile build system |
| 12:30.45 | rooter | nice |
| 12:30.49 | learner | Both work just fine |
| 12:31.13 | learner | Do you have one? |
| 12:31.22 | rooter | mac? yep |
| 12:31.35 | rooter | i got my first mac a couple months ago |
| 12:31.47 | learner | Ah, congratulations, I hope. |
| 12:32.12 | rooter | yes... i've enjoyed it |
| 12:32.21 | rooter | took a little getting used to |
| 12:32.31 | larsl | What is the difference between 'variable' and '_variable'? |
| 12:32.39 | larsl | Client and server variables? |
| 12:32.57 | rooter | it's weird being computer savvy and getting a laptop that you don't know how to use |
| 12:33.11 | learner | no difference really -- just how it was fed to the database |
| 12:33.46 | learner | rooter, ah, so you haven't had a unix box before? |
| 12:33.50 | rooter | playing bzflag on the powerbook is different though |
| 12:33.52 | rooter | oh yes |
| 12:34.08 | rooter | i've been using linux/solaris for years |
| 12:34.29 | rooter | but the aqua part i didn't know how to use |
| 12:34.53 | rooter | after finding the command line i could do most of what i wanted |
| 12:34.55 | learner | os x isn't so much different, other than the differences of bsd, once you crack open a terminal |
| 12:35.02 | rooter | :) |
| 12:35.40 | rooter | just setting up UI was different |
| 12:35.57 | learner | unfortunately, the os x port is still a bit lacking compared to the other ports |
| 12:36.07 | rooter | yes |
| 12:36.11 | learner | you still can't switch apps during gameplay, or go windowed |
| 12:36.37 | learner | but I think we may have fixed the bug that caused the system to lock up with the GUI options all turned on |
| 12:36.38 | rooter | the mouse handles differently... but that's probably the OS |
| 12:36.45 | rooter | :) haven |
| 12:36.50 | rooter | haven't had that problem |
| 12:37.27 | learner | it was a pretty nasty problem that took a long time to even figure out how to avoid the crash |
| 12:37.47 | rooter | what ended up being the problem? |
| 12:37.58 | learner | it was reported across many architectures, but was just really easy to provoke on os x for some reason |
| 12:38.33 | learner | bug in the text-processing system, we believe -- but it's still not known for sure |
| 12:38.39 | rooter | hmm |
| 12:38.52 | rooter | i really should start looking at the source |
| 12:39.00 | learner | the opengl text processing system, that is |
| 12:39.02 | larsl | I still can't run the --enable-debug version in windows mode. |
| 12:39.13 | larsl | window |
| 12:39.19 | rooter | i almost feel guilty for playing so much without contributing |
| 12:39.31 | learner | bah, play on :) |
| 12:39.34 | rooter | :) |
| 12:39.56 | learner | I almost feel guilty for coding so much without playing =) |
| 12:40.08 | larsl | I think I play more than I code. |
| 12:40.20 | rooter | i used to code in C/C++ all the time... now it's mostly java/PHP/Perl etc |
| 12:40.28 | learner | I don't anymore -- haven't for months now |
| 12:40.34 | rooter | but i can brush up on it |
| 12:40.41 | learner | not since the voting system and filtering |
| 12:41.06 | learner | there's a python project too, if that's your cup of tea |
| 12:41.25 | rooter | i've played a little bit with python... our search engine uses it |
| 12:41.47 | rooter | but i wouldn't consider myself good enough to develop in it |
| 12:42.20 | learner | just pointing it out in all fairness, not promoting it :) |
| 12:42.56 | rooter | is it written entirely in python? |
| 12:43.02 | learner | yup |
| 12:43.21 | rooter | wow |
| 12:43.54 | rooter | was it converted or rewritten? |
| 12:44.07 | learner | it even has some features that the current client doesn't have and vice-versa |
| 12:44.17 | learner | it was written from scratch |
| 12:44.20 | rooter | ah... it's just the client? |
| 12:44.28 | learner | almost completely by scanline |
| 12:46.12 | rooter | is Brightness going to be available on macs anytime soon? |
| 12:50.13 | larsl | What is the botmail command? |
| 12:50.15 | larsl | ~botmail |
| 12:51.17 | rooter | i did create a Java API to create maps |
| 12:53.06 | learner | the entire Mac implementation is going to be rewritten and actually completed at some point when I get the hankering :) |
| 12:53.18 | rooter | :) cool |
| 12:53.27 | rooter | if you need anybody to test let me know |
| 12:53.49 | learner | I have the code for windowing pretty much down, but there are so many details to think about and take care of that I haven't even started |
| 12:54.03 | learner | I wanted to get the things done that would benefit the community at large first |
| 12:54.59 | rooter | oohh... i've never heard of a non-selfish programmer ;) |
| 12:55.14 | learner | hehe |
| 12:55.48 | learner | I really want to work on bzbots, but that's even more work and benefits even less people |
| 12:56.46 | larsl | ~mailbot |
| 12:56.59 | rooter | :) i have those dilemmas at work |
| 12:57.17 | rooter | ~spell dilemma |
| 12:57.18 | | 'dilemma' may be spelled correctly |
| 12:57.25 | rooter | looks wrong |
| 12:59.11 | larsl | GCC3-RPM at http://www.d.kth.se/~d00-llu/bzflag/bzflag-1.9.3.20030919-0.i386.rpm if anyone feels like testing. |
| 13:00.08 | larsl | How is the weather? |
| 13:00.23 | rooter | great here |
| 13:00.23 | learner | it's a very windy day :) |
| 13:00.34 | learner | there's a bunch of flooding |
| 13:00.49 | learner | especially near/at work, but not in my neighborhood |
| 13:01.02 | rooter | oh... you live in South Carolina don't you? |
| 13:01.14 | learner | The power fluctuated on and off throughout the night, but I fortunately have power |
| 13:01.30 | learner | 70000 in the state are without power right now |
| 13:01.40 | learner | er, 700,000 |
| 13:01.56 | learner | No, I'm in maryland |
| 13:02.00 | rooter | oh |
| 13:02.08 | rooter | i met someone here from SC |
| 13:02.20 | rooter | i was in NC just a week and a half ago |
| 13:02.21 | learner | that's KR |
| 13:02.41 | rooter | we were getting 7-8 foot waves already |
| 13:03.01 | rooter | it was great if you surf |
| 13:03.05 | learner | downtown baltimore is pretty funny |
| 13:03.25 | learner | the bay has surged many many feet and most of downtown is flooded |
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| 13:11.29 | rooter | while playing with the bz protocol I created a little app to query servers... http://www.westga.edu/~madison/images/bz/whoIsPlayingBz.png |
| 13:12.15 | rooter | i'm going to take the refesh out... or make it longer... like in minuets |
| 13:15.10 | rooter | hmmm... that would be cool |
| 13:15.32 | larsl | Like five rows of colored dots, yellow, red, green, blue, purple. |
| 13:15.37 | larsl | Click on it to switch server. |
| 13:16.07 | rooter | i created this because i got tired of waiting for a slot to open up |
| 13:16.47 | rooter | i was going to have it auto start bzflag and log me in when a slot became free |
| 13:17.06 | larsl | Nice. |
| 13:17.25 | rooter | but... if anybody was waiting as an observer it would be a little rude |
| 13:17.46 | rooter | i guess if the refresh is every 60 sec or more then it wouldn't matter much |
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| 13:41.32 | larsl | Strange bot behaviour: http://www.d.kth.se/~d00-llu/bothuddle.png |
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| 14:25.12 | KTL | isAutoPilot |
| 14:25.15 | KTL | mmm |
| 14:25.27 | KTL | is there a key specified to control that boolean? |
| 14:26.14 | KTL | if so i can implement my robotcode there |
| 14:28.03 | bryjen | that's some new, smarter "Roger" robot code. key 9 i think |
| 14:28.39 | KTL | tnx:-) |
| 14:30.11 | KTL | yes it works |
| 14:30.35 | KTL | is there another bot in the official code??? |
| 14:33.15 | KTL | djeezes yes |
| 14:36.11 | KTL | it jumps, but uncontrolled |
| 14:36.19 | KTL | no pathfinding |
| 14:36.31 | KTL | but it shoots... interesting |
| 14:45.54 | KTL | djee i learn a lot, going to use a lot of that code |
| 14:54.00 | KTL | so it doesn't drive straight to the enemy, it drives a bit to the left and then a bit to the other side, and yes it can evade bullets that way |
| 14:55.33 | bryjen | Roger drives, picks up flags, and shoots. It does jump quite a bit. Not very "smart" about how or when to jump. |
| 14:57.02 | KTL | i'm gonna take over some of the "weaving" code i think |
| 14:57.33 | KTL | and not the jumping, i've better algorithms for that |
| 14:58.43 | bryjen | i wonder if the autopilot thing will stay in the official release. i'd though it was mainly a demonstration to convine TImRiker that the old bots needed to be replaced. |
| 14:59.33 | KTL | :-) must protect a copy of the code then |
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| 15:10.25 | asdf_home | morning |
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| 15:40.57 | Noodleman | some dog's poop around here is a perfect chalky white |
| 15:41.08 | Noodleman | he's got major liver problem's, man |
| 15:41.21 | Noodleman | \' |
| 15:41.29 | KTL | building = ShotStrategy::getFirstBuilding(tankRay, -0.5f, d); |
| 15:41.45 | KTL | aargh and i had to write my own "obstaclebetween" function |
| 15:41.47 | KTL | grmbl |
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| 16:04.02 | learner | wow, compared to yesterday, it's dead quiet in here |
| 16:04.43 | Patlabor221 | how is it out there |
| 16:04.43 | TyroneFHornigh | Glad to see you back. Your server wasn't responding this morning. |
| 16:04.54 | Patlabor221 | and it's not even 9:00 here, still gota wake up |
| 16:05.46 | TyroneFHornigh | Interesting, since it's 9:04 down here. |
| 16:07.12 | Patlabor221 | CPU says 9:01, work phone says 9:07 cell phone says 9:06 and I'm sure the time clock is difrent too |
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| 16:08.47 | TyroneFHornigh | My cell phone and cpu are all synced to within a second. NTP works. ;^) |
| 16:13.45 | Patlabor221 | I know it does, I keep telling them to set the PDC downstairs to a NTP server, but they won't ( or are too dumb to figure out how ) |
| 16:13.55 | Patlabor221 | and I can't change mine cus we are syned to that server |
| 16:15.49 | TyroneFHornigh | Once again, I'm glad I have my own servers available ;^) |
| 16:16.21 | Patlabor221 | well, slowly I am replicating all the services downstairs, up here. Under my desk. |
| 16:16.30 | Patlabor221 | just need mail and PDC |
| 16:16.39 | Nidhoggr | you can go stick tardis on the pdc :) |
| 16:16.59 | Patlabor221 | there are many things we could do, I just need them to DO something |
| 16:17.17 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:17.25 | Nidhoggr | typical IT ;) |
| 16:17.35 | Patlabor221 | ours isn't even a dept |
| 16:17.38 | Patlabor221 | its ONE GUY |
| 16:18.41 | Patlabor221 | leaner do you know if arlington was evacuated? |
| 16:25.53 | Nidhoggr | all of DC was pretty much shut down. |
| 16:25.58 | Nidhoggr | from what I hear. |
| 16:27.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah but I read a thing that said, "some suburbs of DC in virginia were evacuated" |
| 16:27.44 | TyroneFHornigh | DC is still shut down, but I didn't hear they evacuated anywhere except the beach communities. There are still a lot of people in that area without power. |
| 16:28.01 | Patlabor221 | well that splains why I can't call her |
| 16:28.27 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: what was the darkmoor address again? i need to feed navi |
| 16:28.35 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 16:28.37 | Patlabor221 | umm one sec |
| 16:28.54 | Patlabor221 | you can start with BFOJ |
| 16:28.58 | Nidhoggr | hrm.. I remember seeing a change a while back about -admsg being able to do multi lines now. how do you do it? |
| 16:29.09 | Patlabor221 | I'm redoing darkies DNS now |
| 16:29.19 | Nidhoggr | and how long can you make it? |
| 16:30.01 | TyroneFHornigh | My uncle in Williamsburg called us to let us know they're okay. They weren't evacuated, but their phone service is out. We're still wondering how they made the call. |
| 16:30.15 | bryjen | how manys _cows are required before we have a _herd ? |
| 16:30.32 | Patlabor221 | 9 |
| 16:30.37 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:33.26 | Nidhoggr | -admsg info anyone? :) |
| 16:33.40 | Nidhoggr | can I just put \n for newline? and how long can it be? |
| 16:34.01 | Chestal | newlines should work |
| 16:34.15 | Chestal | I don't think there is a limit that you would normally hit |
| 16:34.23 | Nidhoggr | very cool. |
| 16:34.30 | Nidhoggr | thanks. :) |
| 16:34.48 | Chestal | I wouldn't encourage you to put the bible in there, though ;-) |
| 16:36.10 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:36.50 | Nidhoggr | right now, I've got 3 lines, because I'm not sure how many characters I can get on a line. :) |
| 16:37.16 | Patlabor221 | cap http://darkmoor.bakadigital.com/darkmoor-noshare/index.txt |
| 16:38.21 | brown_cow | looks like the admsg and srvmsg can also come from a file... possibly tied it thru -helpmsg ? |
| 16:40.54 | Nidhoggr | I have them in the .conf file anyway. |
| 16:40.59 | Nidhoggr | so I'm not too worried about that. |
| 16:41.24 | Nidhoggr | the only thing I'm getting tired of dealing with in the .conf file is bans. |
| 16:42.16 | Nidhoggr | larsl, you around? |
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| 16:51.11 | learner | Patlabor221: I'm not sure about arlington -- haven't heard anything "bad" from down there other than many are without power |
| 16:51.39 | learner | there's lots of places flooded too, but no serious damage anywhere really, from what's being reported |
| 16:51.57 | Nidhoggr | it could have been a LOT worse, for sure. |
| 16:53.16 | learner | MD still has 700K without power, so I wouldn't be surprised if DC and VA also have the same |
| 16:54.08 | Patlabor221 | they say the storm is the size of colorado |
| 16:54.32 | Nidhoggr | it was pretty huge. |
| 16:54.42 | Patlabor221 | still is |
| 16:54.51 | Nidhoggr | not nearly as powerful, though. |
| 16:55.21 | Patlabor221 | yes, it's no longer a "huricane" |
| 16:55.28 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:56.47 | Nidhoggr | and the only severe weather alerts right now are flooding alerts. |
| 16:57.54 | Patlabor221 | still if that there east cost does anything to hurt her, I'm gonna go over there and kick it's ass |
| 16:58.05 | learner | yeaaay.. my first unsolicited e-mail received to my local mail server |
| 16:59.29 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 17:02.32 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha... fox news just showed that clip of the news reporter holding his pants up. |
| 17:11.12 | Nidhoggr | it never ceases to amaze me at the number of reporters who will put themselves in harm's way and stand out in the middle of deadly winds when the smart people have already evacuated. |
| 17:13.07 | Patlabor221 | you asume reporters are smart |
| 17:13.21 | david_v | did i hear a contradiction? |
| 17:13.29 | david_v | or, rather, two opposite words |
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| 17:13.31 | Nidhoggr | good point. |
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| 17:13.51 | Nidhoggr | "there's a hurricane going to hit the east coast, let's send the new guy!" |
| 17:13.58 | Patlabor221 | oxymoron is the term I think you are looking for |
| 17:16.33 | Patlabor221 | so did Tim get the RPM working? |
| 17:16.35 | learner | good battle asinur? |
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| 17:30.41 | Chestal | learner: did you read my comment on the ml regarding your strncmp change? |
| 17:31.04 | learner | No access to e-mail yet due to weather |
| 17:31.12 | learner | unless you mean the -c one |
| 17:31.23 | Chestal | ah, you changed the option parsing to use strncmp isntead of strcmp |
| 17:31.30 | learner | yea, that's all I did |
| 17:31.31 | Chestal | does not seem to make any sense to me? |
| 17:31.49 | learner | just simple bounds checking |
| 17:31.59 | Chestal | strcmp has no bounds problems |
| 17:32.03 | Chestal | and the semnatics are now messed up |
| 17:32.13 | learner | eh? |
| 17:32.24 | Chestal | strncmp(argv[i],"-c",2) == 0 for argv[i]="-crashme" |
| 17:33.07 | learner | there is no -crashme, iirc |
| 17:33.13 | Chestal | eh, yes, that's the point :-) |
| 17:33.32 | Chestal | this catches everythign that starts with "-c" |
| 17:34.16 | learner | hrm |
| 17:34.43 | brown_cow | sort the checks so longer options are tested for first |
| 17:34.53 | Chestal | and both strign literals and argv[i] are 0-terminated anyway |
| 17:34.55 | learner | there are bounds issues with strcmp if memory is corrupted |
| 17:35.04 | Chestal | ehm |
| 17:35.14 | Chestal | when memory is corrupted, we are hosed anyway? |
| 17:35.45 | learner | not necessarily, but we should halt asap, sure :) |
| 17:36.05 | Chestal | I'll revert them all to back to strcmp unless you do :-) |
| 17:36.18 | learner | user fed-input should always be bounds checked to limit surprises |
| 17:36.39 | Chestal | ehm |
| 17:36.43 | learner | how about strncmp(argv[i], "-c ", 3) |
| 17:36.44 | Chestal | we are only reading it |
| 17:36.49 | Chestal | I do not see the point |
| 17:37.53 | Nidhoggr | hrm... looks like I am the cook at today's work bbq |
| 17:38.01 | Chestal | if argv[] is corrupted, your OS/runtime lib is broken |
| 17:38.20 | learner | perhaps, or it could have been corrupted prior to being sent to parse() |
| 17:38.38 | learner | this should avoid a segfault |
| 17:38.49 | Chestal | betetr to segfault than to carry on when messed up IMHO |
| 17:38.55 | Chestal | but this is purely theoretical anyway |
| 17:39.02 | learner | should never segfault |
| 17:39.26 | Chestal | argv[] should not be corrupted in the first place |
| 17:39.45 | Chestal | that's a low level error that shows that something is wrong inthe code |
| 17:39.46 | Chestal | very wrong |
| 17:40.03 | learner | hence the slight robustness added |
| 17:40.13 | learner | hrm |
| 17:40.18 | Chestal | this kind of robustness gives us nothing |
| 17:40.45 | learner | I don't see it that way, obviously :) |
| 17:41.03 | Chestal | that's the kind of robustness that's very common in Java code for example: just catch the exceptions and ingore them and hope all goes well ;-) |
| 17:41.31 | learner | not quite (and ouch) :) |
| 17:41.39 | Chestal | if somethign has gone wrong and we cannot fix it, I want the application to stop as soon as possible |
| 17:42.09 | learner | preventing a crash is one thing, ignoring a potential crash is another |
| 17:42.12 | Chestal | but again, argv[] having been corrupted at that point in the program is very hard to achieve (when not done on purpose) |
| 17:42.40 | learner | I'd vie to prevent a crash, and check for corruption before ue |
| 17:42.57 | learner | it is very hard to corrupt at that point, I agree |
| 17:43.20 | learner | but were the code to ever change, and parse be moved elsewhere or preprocessed, that is not necessariliy the case |
| 17:43.28 | learner | brb |
| 17:47.20 | learner | another possiblity is to change it to strncmp(argv[i], "-c\0", 3) which should maintain prior behavior and maintain the bounds check (I's have to test it) |
| 17:47.43 | Chestal | it still feels wrong to me |
| 17:47.47 | Chestal | it just obfuscates the code |
| 17:48.01 | Chestal | what about when argv[i] (the pointer itself) has been corrupted? |
| 17:48.03 | Chestal | no way to check that |
| 17:48.30 | Chestal | argv[] reallycan be trusted |
| 17:49.09 | learner | quite true, which is why memory should be bounds checked and at least pointer validity checked when not time critical |
| 17:49.31 | Chestal | bzflag could use a lot less use of pointers |
| 17:49.57 | Chestal | Pat: but that isn't more crash secure a bit (not that I would care) |
| 17:50.36 | learner | yea, throwing into a std::string would not be a bad idea since it automatically does bounds checking all the time |
| 17:50.37 | Patlabor221 | if argv is coupt, then no, it's all gone to hell at that point |
| 17:50.39 | Chestal | hmm, I get a warning because I do not have a bad word file |
| 17:51.00 | learner | eep |
| 17:51.06 | learner | you do? |
| 17:51.08 | Chestal | on the client |
| 17:51.23 | TyroneFHornigh | Clearly we all need to maintain a number of bad words in a file so people scanning our machines can find something. ;^) |
| 17:51.40 | learner | hrm.. the word filter must be being verbose even though I told it to shut up |
| 17:52.39 | Chestal | Warning: '.../.bzf/badwords..txt': ... not found |
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| 17:52.53 | Chestal | Isadly cannot easily cut'n'paste it |
| 17:52.55 | learner | just fixed it, that was it |
| 17:53.44 | Chestal | hmm, I might want to put 'cheater' in that file :-) |
| 17:54.05 | learner | I think I have a fix for the strncmp thing too |
| 17:54.42 | Chestal | fix is easy, get rid of the 'n' and the third arg :-) |
| 17:55.23 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): shut up when you are told to, dang it |
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| 18:05.09 | Chestal | bzflag still hangs very often when connecting servers for me |
| 18:05.34 | Chestal | komposter is lying, shows with 5/6 in server lsit but complains that it is full when connecting |
| 18:07.15 | Chestal | hmm, make compiles a lot of files lately for me even when only one changed |
| 18:07.50 | Chestal | this time only WordFilter.cxx changed, but it recompiles dozens of files. Wonder whether that's the fault of the build system or some time synch issue local to me |
| 18:08.09 | Chestal | is this maybe related to the version thing? |
| 18:08.22 | learner | it's the version thing |
| 18:08.29 | Chestal | waah |
| 18:08.30 | Chestal | that sucks |
| 18:08.36 | learner | yes it does |
| 18:08.54 | tea|tree_ | hey all |
| 18:09.04 | TyroneFHornigh | Change the versioning so it only affects one source file which will be recompiled and linked. |
| 18:09.10 | learner | the guys that actually make version calls now actually need to rebuild since the funcs are inlined |
| 18:09.33 | learner | they need to be moved into a version.c file that is only compiled at link time |
| 18:09.49 | Chestal | dowe still use _DATE_? |
| 18:09.50 | learner | and all of their callers just reference the symbol |
| 18:09.54 | learner | yes |
| 18:11.11 | Chestal | hmm, I don't liek the curent way |
| 18:11.17 | Chestal | evenif it would just affect one object file |
| 18:11.47 | TyroneFHornigh | I think everyone is willing to listen to suggestions. |
| 18:12.09 | Chestal | dump __DATE__ and use some scritp that checks if the date has changed |
| 18:12.23 | Chestal | in case, patch the respective version file or whatever |
| 18:12.34 | Chestal | that way atl east a recompile/link would only be necessary once per dayt |
| 18:12.38 | learner | I suggested to just disable the touch |
| 18:13.30 | learner | until the thing is moved like I mentioned, that is |
| 18:13.41 | Chestal | rightnow, I type make, mayeb get an error in bzfs; fix that; type make again and it will recompiel parts of the client |
| 18:13.52 | Chestal | that's just wrong |
| 18:14.11 | learner | wrong, but correct according to what we do |
| 18:14.23 | Tupone | Chestal: My suggestion is just changing how exe file are built, not just a link but also a generation of an obj with a public inside |
| 18:14.30 | learner | version.h has been touched, hence it is different and everyone that uses it updates |
| 18:14.32 | Chestal | than mayeb we shoudl rethink whetehr a make date is useful |
| 18:14.32 | learner | blah |
| 18:14.49 | Chestal | wouldn't the tiem at which configure has been run sufficient? |
| 18:15.11 | learner | that would be the same as just turning off the touch |
| 18:15.17 | KTL | speed = M_PI/2.0f - fabs(rotation); ? that's code from Roger, when he is flagharvesting. i don't really understand how speed and the difference in angle have to do with each other |
| 18:15.18 | TyroneFHornigh | During test phases a make date is useful. It lets us know when a bug occurred and whether it was fixed in a later build. |
| 18:15.44 | Chestal | hmm, not really |
| 18:15.56 | Chestal | I don't see why the pointof time when the executable was built is useful |
| 18:16.08 | Chestal | it does not directly map to a state of the sources |
| 18:16.27 | learner | Other projects I work with simply run a script that generates the version.c prior to link |
| 18:16.58 | learner | I find the date practically useful to know that one build is before or after another |
| 18:17.06 | TyroneFHornigh | I like the scripts which generate version.c, although I also want to make sure we can use it to generate the version resources for win and mac. |
| 18:17.17 | Chestal | learner: but that's only useful to comapre your own builds |
| 18:17.33 | Chestal | learner: or lets say to compare two builds from the same compilationsource |
| 18:17.38 | learner | the mac's not a problem, windows I do not know |
| 18:17.46 | TyroneFHornigh | If I never update from the cvs sources, that's true. |
| 18:19.11 | Chestal | maybe jsut run a script that commits a version.h once a day :-) |
| 18:19.11 | learner | Chestal: yes, you can't say for "sure" that a build date corresponds to any particular cvs state, but with the assumption everyone stays relatively up to date it will tell you if a build is too old |
| 18:19.44 | Chestal | learner: yes, but there msut be a betetr way. I declare that the curernt way officially sucks :-) |
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| 18:20.29 | learner | a version.c that is compiled at link time would solve both problems and even allow us to timestamp if we wanted |
| 18:20.38 | Chestal | did we discsus auto-generatin of a version.h on each commit? |
| 18:21.08 | learner | that's an interesting idea |
| 18:21.10 | Chestal | learner: hmm, how woudl that be any different except for not requiring recompiling several source files? |
| 18:21.38 | learner | that is the difference.. it wouldn't rebuild anything |
| 18:21.50 | Chestal | only problem I see with the auto-creation is that then I'd have to do a cvs up right after my commit in case it changed |
| 18:21.52 | learner | if something has to relink, though -- it gets an updated date |
| 18:22.02 | Chestal | linking takes forever here in debug mode |
| 18:22.30 | learner | that would also imply thousands and thousands of commits in cvs to a version.h file very quickly :) |
| 18:22.30 | Chestal | it feels wrong when everything bulds fine after a make, I do amke again and it starts buildign new executables |
| 18:22.53 | Chestal | well, the script coudl only up the date whenever the date acutally changed |
| 18:22.53 | TyroneFHornigh | The version is mostly for the testers on the distributed binaries. Maybe we could disable it except for the distributed builds. |
| 18:23.04 | Chestal | so the version date would always be that of the last commit |
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| 18:24.56 | learner | the only problem I see with that is that it is a different metric |
| 18:25.06 | learner | build date versus cvs date |
| 18:25.11 | Chestal | yes |
| 18:25.18 | Chestal | but IMHO a more useful metric |
| 18:25.24 | learner | I'd like both :) |
| 18:25.28 | Tupone | I don't think build date is useful, but If needed, it can be computed only during exe build, if they are to be rebuilt. No make dependency on that automatically generated obj file |
| 18:25.38 | Chestal | when someone deviated from the official sources, the date does not tell us anything anyway |
| 18:26.21 | Chestal | so, when I patch some files and recompile, the date no longer tells us anything either way |
| 18:26.24 | TyroneFHornigh | The build date is useful for the testers. The cvs date is useful for the developers. The developers should know what they are building from anyway. |
| 18:26.43 | Chestal | itmight tell this one programmer somethign, but then he can just keep different executables around if he cares |
| 18:26.57 | Chestal | why is the build date useful for testers? |
| 18:27.02 | learner | well, we can do the cvs date by embedding a cvs macros into a version file, but it's not clear to me how to force a commit when commiting something else |
| 18:27.21 | Chestal | it has to be done actively on the repository machine |
| 18:27.28 | Chestal | liek CIA is done |
| 18:27.52 | Chestal | just an idea, but it sounds liekit should be possible |
| 18:28.01 | learner | eck |
| 18:28.06 | Chestal | alternatively it coudl be done by an external script |
| 18:28.10 | TyroneFHornigh | The testers report a bug, they tell us they are using version xxxx-20030917-xxxx. I know if I fixed that in my tree, and can tell them to try xxxx-20030921-xxx which should be after I committed the fix. |
| 18:28.26 | Chestal | setup a cronjob which runs cvs up once a day, whenever soemthign changed, up the cvs date and commit it |
| 18:28.47 | Chestal | Tyrone: eh, but you're describing comit date? |
| 18:29.08 | Chestal | build dates cannot be compared in any meaningful way when different peopel did the compiles |
| 18:29.27 | TyroneFHornigh | I'm describing the date which is on distributed binaries. It means the builders have to make sure they are following procedures. |
| 18:29.50 | Tupone | version date could be just used on tar.gz made by make dist, and saved for testing purpose on the web. During that save, we could insert that date. With that we could recognize which tarball they have taken. Date should be put by who run that script |
| 18:29.53 | Chestal | if they have to put the date into the fielname they should use the version date |
| 18:29.55 | Chestal | not the current date |
| 18:30.02 | learner | but they can chestal, it's useful with the assumption that we all build from the latest sources |
| 18:30.28 | TyroneFHornigh | I think a cron job which updates the version might be a better way to go. |
| 18:30.28 | Chestal | yes, but in the best case it is still only as godo as the commit date |
| 18:30.33 | Chestal | and usually it's worse |
| 18:31.11 | Tupone | don't want to update my sources just because time is passing |
| 18:31.19 | Chestal | you dont have to |
| 18:31.37 | Chestal | the cron job would just update version.h of whatever when there have been commits |
| 18:32.04 | Tupone | but why CVS and not tarball generated by |
| 18:32.07 | Chestal | we don't want a version.h commit every day even when noone is coding |
| 18:32.18 | Chestal | hmm? |
| 18:32.25 | Chestal | CVS is our reference |
| 18:32.35 | Tupone | tarball source on a public site |
| 18:32.36 | Chestal | as I see it the code in CVS is the official code |
| 18:32.41 | Chestal | everythign else is a secondary source |
| 18:33.02 | Tupone | where tester are going to take source, or they get only binary |
| 18:33.28 | Chestal | that could work, so we would only have a build date in those official releases |
| 18:33.38 | Chestal | but that's also not as good as an autoamtic commit date IMHO |
| 18:33.42 | TyroneFHornigh | Some testers get source, some get binary. The current method is a problem if the tester gets source, and waits before compiling and testing. |
| 18:33.55 | Chestal | and it's a problem for me because it steals my time |
| 18:34.17 | TyroneFHornigh | We're still distributing source for the Linux testers. |
| 18:34.48 | TyroneFHornigh | Since when has anyone been concerned about developer's time ;^) |
| 18:34.51 | Chestal | some peopel might use anon CVS and get old versions |
| 18:34.58 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): learner tips his hat to the Chestal and burns strncmp as a sacrifical offering of peace |
| 18:34.58 | Chestal | build date wouldn't reflect that, commit date would |
| 18:35.28 | Chestal | I raelly see only advantages |
| 18:35.30 | Tupone | if they take from CVS we need to know date & time they get in case there is a serious bug |
| 18:35.39 | Chestal | the only down side is that I see no real cleansolution to do it |
| 18:35.40 | TyroneFHornigh | We need to set up auto-labeling of the tree during this testing process as well. |
| 18:36.19 | Chestal | learner: thank you :-) |
| 18:37.47 | learner | There's plenty of damage to be caused elsewhere still =) |
| 18:38.25 | TyroneFHornigh | I didn't see many testers out there last night. |
| 18:39.05 | Chestal | apropos testing, I thinkthe new flags need more testing |
| 18:39.25 | Chestal | also,someone complained that the rabbit assignment still seems to be buggy |
| 18:39.50 | learner | if (strncmp(player[i].callSign, "Chestal", 7) == 0) remove_player(i); /* tee hee */ |
| 18:40.11 | Chestal | ah, not strncmp again :-) |
| 18:40.17 | TyroneFHornigh | The rabbit assignment seemed to be pretty solid when learner, r2d2, and i were doing some testing. |
| 18:40.30 | Chestal | not sure, I played with a robot agaisnt someone else |
| 18:40.45 | Chestal | the other one was rabbit from my popint of view he said there was no rabbit |
| 18:40.55 | Chestal | so it might be related to robots or maybe he was confused |
| 18:41.07 | learner | there was one point when a shot after my death killed jb and I got a tk, though I was dead |
| 18:41.33 | Chestal | hmm, yes, that sounds ok to me? |
| 18:41.40 | TyroneFHornigh | That's the team id on the shot. There still seems to be an issue there. |
| 18:41.44 | Chestal | a kill is a kill, regardless whetehr you're dead or not? |
| 18:41.50 | learner | I had fired the shot as rabbit |
| 18:42.17 | learner | was killed, and then my shot killed him (hence the tk) |
| 18:42.19 | TyroneFHornigh | The rabbit should get a point for killing a fox, but a fox shouldn't get a point for killing another fox. |
| 18:42.41 | Chestal | so, msgbeginshot contains team id? |
| 18:42.49 | learner | yes, that would sound like a good metric -- how many rabbits have you trapped :) |
| 18:42.55 | Chestal | and whenever a tank gets hit, it checks that id? |
| 18:43.03 | TyroneFHornigh | pat added it, but there seems to be a problem. |
| 18:43.05 | Chestal | where's the logic for teamkills located? |
| 18:43.11 | Chestal | victim, shooter or server? |
| 18:43.47 | Tupone | shooter IC |
| 18:44.09 | Tupone | when getting a KillMsg |
| 18:44.45 | Chestal | hmm |
| 18:44.56 | Chestal | the server is killing the teamkiller (unless -tk is used) |
| 18:45.04 | learner | TyroneFHornigh: what was that word/phrase that wasn't getting filtered right last night? |
| 18:45.23 | Tupone | Pat said not all shot get team id (?) |
| 18:45.24 | learner | p-something |
| 18:46.11 | Chestal | the server check does not know about the shot at all |
| 18:46.15 | Chestal | it only sees MsgKill |
| 18:47.46 | learner | larsl_uppsala: ping |
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| 18:55.16 | Chestal | so far I only found the shot team used when printing a message when getting shot |
| 18:55.53 | Chikorita | :) |
| 18:58.16 | Chestal | I don't think it's ever used for scoring / penalty issues |
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| 19:01.04 | learner | howdy sgi ;) |
| 19:01.13 | SGI | Sir |
| 19:01.38 | SGI | question about help file |
| 19:02.12 | SGI | I have my helpmsg.txt file |
| 19:02.47 | SGI | how i can see that when im calling from bs |
| 19:03.02 | SGI | nwith the command /help abuot |
| 19:03.13 | SGI | about |
| 19:03.35 | SGI | gave me "command unkwown" |
| 19:05.30 | Chestal | did you do -helpmsg helpmsg.txt about ? |
| 19:05.48 | SGI | yes |
| 19:06.07 | SGI | in the conf file |
| 19:17.03 | brown_cow | start a server |
| 19:17.05 | brown_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.06 | brown_cow | then in bzflag |
| 19:17.08 | brown_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.09 | brown_cow | gives you what's in fileA.txt |
| 19:17.11 | brown_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.13 | brown_cow | gives you what's in fileB.txt |
| 19:19.07 | SGI | no more stupid ....... |
| 19:19.22 | SGI | the file is in config(folder) |
| 19:19.44 | SGI | and I wrote confi/helpmsg etc etc |
| 19:19.56 | SGI | Im so stupid |
| 19:20.05 | SGI | nthanks btw |
| 19:21.18 | brown_cow | nyou're nwelcome nSGI ;) |
| 19:21.29 | SGI | you too the "n" |
| 19:21.41 | SGI | heheh you too ...dammm "n" |
| 19:21.46 | learner | brownie, who washed off your paint? |
| 19:22.04 | brown_cow | ? |
| 19:22.13 | learner | oh! |
| 19:22.13 | learner | ha |
| 19:22.21 | brown_cow | Mmmmm brownies |
| 19:22.21 | learner | you are not who I assumed you were :) |
| 19:24.27 | plaid_cow | not one inquiry about how I was |
| 19:24.41 | learner | how was you? |
| 19:24.55 | plaid_cow | how now ___ ___ |
| 19:25.13 | learner | how now now how ? |
| 19:25.21 | plaid_cow | Now I'm a cow of a different color. |
| 19:25.46 | learner | Is that like birds of a feather? |
| 19:26.20 | plaid_cow | Not sure. But be thankful cows don't fly. |
| 19:27.08 | learner | Mmm.. fish |
| 19:27.16 | learner | ~whaleslap plaid_cow |
| 19:27.17 | | ibot slaps plaid_cow upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 19:27.40 | learner | ibot: eat fish |
| 19:27.41 | | ACTION eats fish and falls over dead |
| 19:27.58 | learner | ibot: botsnack |
| 19:27.58 | | learner: thanks |
| 19:28.12 | plaid_cow | hugh're dessssssPicable |
| 19:32.04 | plaid_cow | affectionate today. |
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| 19:33.55 | learner1 | eep |
| 19:34.28 | learner | better? |
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| 19:35.14 | plaid_cow | slow moving ping pong |
| 19:35.26 | learner | I'm not getting anything.. |
| 19:35.28 | learner | this is wierd |
| 19:35.35 | learner | did you get the ping? |
| 19:35.47 | plaid_cow | huh? |
| 19:35.48 | learner | ah, now it's working to you |
| 19:36.11 | plaid_cow | hmm. doesn't look like i get notified of ping requests |
| 19:36.42 | learner | oh so I can ping away at you and you won't mind then |
| 19:37.06 | learner | :) |
| 19:37.23 | learner | Did you get any? |
| 19:37.36 | plaid_cow | nada |
| 19:37.47 | learner | harumph |
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| 19:40.09 | TyroneFHornigh | learner: The sequence making it through the filter was @$$ |
| 19:40.32 | TyroneFHornigh | and variations thereof. |
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| 19:54.31 | jolly | hey learner :) |
| 19:54.37 | jolly | *blush :) |
| 19:54.40 | learner | I'm in a good mood :) |
| 19:54.47 | jolly | looks like it ;) |
| 19:55.56 | TyroneFHornigh | He's in a jolly good mood ;^) |
| 19:56.00 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.145) |
| 19:56.03 | jolly | lol |
| 19:58.50 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (~eati@ip68-111-116-228.lu.dl.cox.net) |
| 19:59.11 | Spiff | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.18 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.21 | Spiff | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.26 | *** part/#bzflag Spiff (~eati@ip68-111-116-228.lu.dl.cox.net) |
| 19:59.35 | learner | heh |
| 19:59.47 | learner | He's one of those shy quiet types |
| 19:59.56 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (~eati@ip68-111-116-228.lu.dl.cox.net) |
| 19:59.58 | Spiff | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.00 | *** join/#bzflag jolly (~bzjolly81@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 20:01.07 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (~eati@ip68-111-116-228.lu.dl.cox.net) |
| 20:01.41 | Spiff | Anyone seen that gay guy Pat Labor? |
| 20:02.15 | learner | he went fishing for someone in arlington |
| 20:03.20 | Spiff | pretty exciting in here today |
| 20:03.30 | Spiff | whats the point of sitting here anyways? |
| 20:03.30 | plaid_cow | as always |
| 20:04.26 | *** join/#bzflag d (~bzjolly81@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 20:04.31 | Spiff | hiya d |
| 20:04.48 | d | you got in i see |
| 20:04.58 | Spiff | it wont let me ahve the name .. Spiff&Dervish=gay |
| 20:05.04 | Spiff | it only says spiff |
| 20:05.43 | plaid_cow | erg. did pat leave his op kfj with someone? |
| 20:06.20 | *** join/#bzflag d (~k@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 20:06.41 | plaid_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.36 | learner | ~seen BZSpiff |
| 20:08.37 | | bzspiff <BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 19d 20h 24m 44s ago, saying: 'Too much heaven perhaps? Nah. BZ could do with some more sweetness. :-)'. |
| 20:08.55 | learner | hrm.. imposter |
| 20:08.56 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@208.48.199.214) |
| 20:08.57 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 20:09.02 | plaid_cow | Jup |
| 20:09.55 | plaid_cow | the "gay" references were a clue |
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| 20:10.06 | Patlabor221 | you know I have lice right? |
| 20:10.12 | learner | eww |
| 20:10.16 | plaid_cow | Ewww2 |
| 20:10.24 | Patlabor221 | :P |
| 20:10.43 | Patlabor221 | see what you get for grabing strange heads. |
| 20:11.12 | learner | next time I'll wear protection |
| 20:11.23 | learner | er, never mind |
| 20:11.34 | david_v | Patlabor221: got your PM regarding giving my teammate access to the private forum. i forgot to check he was in the forums obviously. sorry :) will post a message later |
| 20:12.54 | Patlabor221 | heh, no prob |
| 20:13.09 | Patlabor221 | I looked and couldn't find any names that were similar ether |
| 20:13.52 | TyroneFHornigh | pat, i have a recipe for flied lice if you're interested. |
| 20:14.08 | Patlabor221 | ohh I boil them |
| 20:15.04 | TyroneFHornigh | ~whaleslap captain_proton |
| 20:15.07 | | ibot slaps captain_proton upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 20:15.07 | plaid_cow | flied lice suplies! |
| 20:15.41 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@bgp01138bgs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 20:16.07 | Patlabor221 | fillper, fliper, faster then lighhhhhttinnng |
| 20:16.37 | learner | "whaleslap.. for when you need a little extra umph in your life. now coming to a store near you." |
| 20:17.09 | TyroneFHornigh | Remember, only hugh can prevent florist friars. |
| 20:18.08 | plaid_cow | hugh, and only hugh |
| 20:18.45 | TyroneFHornigh | hugh's the leader of the band that's made for you and me. |
| 20:19.45 | learner | Only hugh... can make all this world seem briight.. oh only huuugh.... |
| 20:21.42 | plaid_cow | There's nothing like a good pun |
| 20:21.59 | TyroneFHornigh | and that was nothing like a good pun. :^) |
| 20:22.04 | Patlabor221 | I hear "meismyname" came by to see the channel while I was at lunch |
| 20:22.41 | plaid_cow | somefool@ip68-111-116-228.lu.dl.cox.net ? |
| 20:22.44 | TyroneFHornigh | Is that the cox.net guy? |
| 20:23.12 | Patlabor221 | the one who tried to do "spiff&derv" |
| 20:23.44 | TyroneFHornigh | yeah, that's the idiot. looked like spiff, but I immediately started questioning it. |
| 20:23.58 | d | yeah, he is cheating right this second |
| 20:24.07 | Patlabor221 | it's knightmare |
| 20:24.15 | learner | where at? |
| 20:24.21 | d | lanable |
| 20:25.10 | TyroneFHornigh | I saw him online the other night. He wasn't very good if he was cheating. |
| 20:25.31 | d | he has a score of like 5000 now ;) |
| 20:26.08 | plaid_cow | that's most cheaters one redeeming quality. its amusing to watch them cheat and still suck. :) |
| 20:26.43 | learner | yea, he's got a nasty cheat client on lanable right now |
| 20:26.48 | learner | spewing foulness |
| 20:26.52 | learner | who's the admin there? |
| 20:28.09 | d | dunno :( |
| 20:28.26 | Patlabor221 | it's probably his server |
| 20:28.33 | TyroneFHornigh | What's going to stop people from running several 1.10 clients and using the poll mechanism to kick other players. |
| 20:29.19 | Patlabor221 | and can obersvers vote? |
| 20:29.58 | TyroneFHornigh | It will probably be a problem on the ffa servers mostly. That's where I see most cheaters hang out. |
| 20:32.45 | learner | so did punk*ss to lanable |
| 20:32.58 | learner | observers can vote |
| 20:33.14 | Patlabor221 | oh that kinda sucks |
| 20:33.23 | learner | not really.. I'll explain |
| 20:33.36 | learner | only players that are around when a poll is created are allowed to vote |
| 20:33.37 | Patlabor221 | I could make -solo put all the bots into observer |
| 20:33.48 | Patlabor221 | and have them all vote the same as me |
| 20:33.54 | Patlabor221 | they would still be around |
| 20:34.34 | plaid_cow | Patlabor221: what's bzbb policy on creating a second account to try to conceal being a luser ? |
| 20:34.44 | learner | yes, but they can do that anyways prior to calling a vote |
| 20:34.47 | Patlabor221 | moistly getting your ass kicked |
| 20:35.03 | Patlabor221 | I sent him a message asking him what account he wishes to keep |
| 20:35.14 | Patlabor221 | if he does not respond, both accounts will be disabled |
| 20:35.15 | learner | the only way to prevent mult-client abuse is to limit votes by ip (perhaps two per ip) |
| 20:35.45 | learner | Didn't do it initially just because of 1) the effort and 2) the effort |
| 20:35.56 | Chestal | I wonder whetehr we should add a GUI to define quickMessages |
| 20:36.08 | Patlabor221 | well this is one of the core problems that voiting and karma could face |
| 20:36.11 | plaid_cow | which hoses NATters. but how many people play with >2 clients/connection |
| 20:36.18 | learner | the polling/voting system needs a gui.. |
| 20:36.30 | TyroneFHornigh | Hmmm, I should sign up with my ISP for the 5 static IP deal, 10 votes on any server should let me do what I want. ;^) |
| 20:36.31 | learner | I do forsee callsign funkyness for requesting a poll |
| 20:36.44 | learner | since you have to /poll ban [funky callsign] |
| 20:36.56 | learner | it could get rather hard/compilcated |
| 20:37.01 | Patlabor221 | tho if you make it so that you have to register to vote then it makes it a bit harder |
| 20:37.47 | plaid_cow | doesn't the server force callsigns to be alpha/digit chars? that should tone down the funk somewhat |
| 20:37.54 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): whitespac, constness |
| 20:37.56 | Patlabor221 | better yet would be to make a group for "trusted" poll initaters |
| 20:37.59 | *** join/#bzflag SGI_maimed (~SGI@bgp01138bgs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 20:38.08 | learner | yes it does, but it is still case sensitive and can contain whitespace |
| 20:38.16 | learner | i could make it case insensitive |
| 20:38.21 | plaid_cow | SGI_maimed: ouch! |
| 20:38.57 | learner | oh yea, pat.. it's limited in that respect in that the initiator has to be identified |
| 20:39.12 | SGI_maimed | ~dict constriction |
| 20:39.15 | learner | so at worst, a multiclient abuse should only happen once before an admin can ban the ip |
| 20:39.31 | learner | since they will have the dudes ip after that fact |
| 20:39.43 | plaid_cow | snake problems SGI_maimed ? |
| 20:39.54 | TyroneFHornigh | or dudette, let's not be sexist ;^) |
| 20:40.03 | plaid_cow | ~dict constrictor |
| 20:40.24 | SGI_maimed | ~dict maimed |
| 20:40.48 | SGI_maimed | ~dict hand |
| 20:42.02 | TyroneFHornigh | Look, up in the sky |
| 20:42.19 | Patlabor221 | no don't, or you'll get it in the eye |
| 20:42.29 | plaid_cow | hope its not a cow |
| 20:42.31 | TyroneFHornigh | It's a bird, It's a plane |
| 20:42.44 | TyroneFHornigh | Yeech, it was a bird. |
| 20:42.49 | plaid_cow | that'd be an eyefull |
| 20:43.38 | TyroneFHornigh | Little birdie in the sky, why'd you do that in my eye? I'm a good boy I don't cry. Gee I'm glad that cows don't fly. |
| 20:43.52 | plaid_cow | me too |
| 20:44.14 | plaid_cow | i don't like heights anyway ;) |
| 20:45.34 | SGI_superman | I'm glad that elephant dont fly |
| 20:45.49 | TyroneFHornigh | I've seen a housefly |
| 20:45.59 | plaid_cow | and a horsefly |
| 20:46.12 | TyroneFHornigh | I've seen a rubber band |
| 20:46.35 | plaid_cow | ... |
| 20:46.55 | TyroneFHornigh | I've seen a peanut stand |
| 20:47.07 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): my rabbit bullets can still be counted as teamkills |
| 20:47.39 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (4 files): bots don't go anymore into building. Aiming at target nearest inside point |
| 20:48.16 | Tupone | Chestal: your site off? |
| 20:48.46 | Chestal | yes, but will hopefully be up in a few minutes |
| 20:48.59 | Tupone | seen my CIA? |
| 20:49.00 | Chestal | hmm, should bzflag enforce that server name is always at the end of parameters? |
| 20:49.15 | Chestal | should 'bzflag -mute ducati -callsign Chestal" work? |
| 20:49.35 | Tupone | I don't think it work that way |
| 20:49.35 | plaid_cow | that's the way it is in the -help text |
| 20:49.48 | Chestal | ok |
| 20:49.50 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 20:50.14 | plaid_cow | bzflag [-a] [-b] [-c d] server |
| 20:50.31 | creeperz | Anyone know how to get the Recycle Bin back on the desktop in XP? |
| 20:50.55 | learner | ~whaleslap creeperz |
| 20:50.56 | | ibot slaps creeperz upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 20:51.07 | creeperz | LOL! |
| 20:51.30 | creeperz | ... |
| 20:51.31 | plaid_cow | hey learner, i think he likes it! |
| 20:51.38 | TimRiker | creeperz: tried tweakui? don't know if there's an XP version but I know it does that on other win* installs. |
| 20:51.38 | creeperz | I think I just felt myself get dumber |
| 20:51.53 | creeperz | I don't need that |
| 20:52.03 | SGI_superman | restor |
| 20:52.06 | learner | I feel like that every time I use Windows, it goes with the territory |
| 20:52.16 | SGI_superman | open the recycle bin and restore |
| 20:52.33 | plaid_cow | there's options somewheres about what to show on the desktop "My Computer" "Network Places" "Recycle Bin" |
| 20:53.19 | SGI_superman | j/k |
| 20:53.29 | SGI_superman | how you delete it |
| 20:53.38 | creeperz | Right clicked it |
| 20:53.41 | learner | he drug it to the recycle bin |
| 20:53.50 | creeperz | And hit Delete |
| 20:53.57 | creeperz | I dunno |
| 20:54.13 | SGI_superman | right click???? |
| 20:54.17 | creeperz | Sometimes I can try to recycle bin and it'll try to delete C:/windows |
| 20:54.28 | Patlabor221 | go to the display controll panel |
| 20:54.43 | creeperz | Yea? |
| 20:54.50 | Patlabor221 | go to destop |
| 20:55.06 | creeperz | Yea |
| 20:55.08 | Patlabor221 | go to customise desktop |
| 20:55.22 | creeperz | Yup |
| 20:55.26 | Patlabor221 | turn on what ever you want |
| 20:55.42 | creeperz | It doesn't have REcycle Bin there |
| 20:55.52 | Patlabor221 | cus you can't remove the recyle bin |
| 20:56.08 | creeperz | Could it be something I did in the registry? |
| 20:56.10 | Patlabor221 | you probably had a shortcut to it |
| 20:56.16 | Patlabor221 | did you edit the registry? |
| 20:56.19 | plaid_cow | There's no delete option on the right click menu for the recycle bin. ghawd would that be dumb. |
| 20:56.21 | creeperz | A tiddle-bit |
| 20:56.28 | Patlabor221 | what did you do? |
| 20:56.37 | creeperz | Made it so I could Rename it |
| 20:56.47 | Patlabor221 | yeah, you get to reinstall XP |
| 20:56.52 | SGI_superman | there is no delete option for a lot icon in the desktop |
| 20:56.52 | Patlabor221 | cus you just SCREWED yourself |
| 20:57.02 | creeperz | Ouch |
| 20:57.10 | Patlabor221 | why would you mess with your registry |
| 20:57.30 | creeperz | To rename the recycle bin |
| 20:57.36 | plaid_cow | before or after you ignored the big disclaimer about "editing the registry may dammage your installation" ? |
| 20:57.57 | Patlabor221 | I would learn how to use your computer before you start messing with it. |
| 20:58.08 | Patlabor221 | try undoing your registry hack |
| 20:58.09 | SGI_superman | reinstall all and you have the option fix/repair |
| 20:58.20 | Patlabor221 | if not call MS |
| 20:58.43 | Patlabor221 | or make a new user |
| 20:58.50 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): do not silently ignore unknown '-option's; instead print some useful error message |
| 20:58.50 | plaid_cow | does XP have a system restore/rollback feature? |
| 20:58.58 | Patlabor221 | for some stuff |
| 20:59.01 | Patlabor221 | not the registry tho |
| 20:59.08 | Patlabor221 | it does for core DLLs |
| 20:59.17 | TyroneFHornigh | Did I wander into #dumbwindowsluserabuse again? I really wanted to talk about a tank game. Could someone direct me to the appropriate channel? |
| 20:59.18 | Patlabor221 | you can try to use "last known configuration" |
| 20:59.21 | SGI_superman | there is a feature to repair |
| 20:59.37 | Patlabor221 | yeah creeper this isn't the place or OS tech support. |
| 21:00.05 | learner | Tweak UI will restore it with the click of a couple buttons |
| 21:00.20 | Patlabor221 | as will microangaleo probably |
| 21:01.22 | TyroneFHornigh | or is this the #bofh channel? |
| 21:01.30 | plaid_cow | TyroneFHornigh: go out the door, make four left turns, somewhere around there |
| 21:02.03 | TyroneFHornigh | plaid_cow: Thanks, they're serving ice cream there ;^) |
| 21:02.05 | Patlabor221 | if you don't find it make 8 right :) |
| 21:02.22 | Chestal | something very, very bad has happened |
| 21:02.33 | Patlabor221 | with? |
| 21:02.47 | Chestal | with my beer - nothing left |
| 21:02.58 | Patlabor221 | ooo that is bad |
| 21:03.10 | learner | Mmm.. icecream .. mmm .. beer |
| 21:03.28 | Patlabor221 | you do have EBDS there right? |
| 21:03.35 | plaid_cow | Hmm, icecream + root beer |
| 21:03.38 | SGI_superman | next time buy a cage |
| 21:04.03 | Chestal | ~dict ebds |
| 21:04.10 | Chestal | ~ebds |
| 21:04.20 | Patlabor221 | Emergency Beer Delivery System\ |
| 21:04.21 | learner | here you go, XP-boy: http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBM/tip6100/rh6177.htm |
| 21:04.23 | Chestal | Equipment Bio-Decontamination Service? |
| 21:04.34 | creeperz | The recycle bin is still there... |
| 21:04.36 | Chestal | hmm, not that I know of |
| 21:04.42 | creeperz | It's just...kinda...hidden somehow |
| 21:04.42 | SGI_superman | no the first one isthe correct |
| 21:04.45 | Chestal | a coupel of brewerys are around the corner though |
| 21:05.02 | learner | creeperz -- follow the white rabbit: go to that link |
| 21:05.09 | SGI_superman | plaid |
| 21:05.16 | creeperz | Ah |
| 21:05.32 | plaid_cow | a hundred meters of copper pipe then? |
| 21:05.46 | SGI_superman | a glass |
| 21:05.46 | Patlabor221 | rememeber it's talk like a pirate day, matie |
| 21:05.53 | Patlabor221 | arrrr |
| 21:06.07 | plaid_cow | lan lubbers! |
| 21:06.42 | learner | arrrr, walk the plank laddie! |
| 21:06.44 | creeperz | I don't know how to do this! |
| 21:06.56 | learner | it gives you step by step instructions.. |
| 21:07.01 | Patlabor221 | READ |
| 21:07.02 | learner | just do them one at a time |
| 21:07.10 | creeperz | I don't understand them |
| 21:07.28 | creeperz | "1. Copy/Paste the following to a RecycleBin.reg file:" What .reg file? |
| 21:07.42 | Patlabor221 | that text they show you there, use your common sense man |
| 21:07.51 | plaid_cow | any of you swabs good at knife throwin? |
| 21:07.56 | creeperz | What? |
| 21:07.59 | Patlabor221 | arrr |
| 21:08.11 | Patlabor221 | if you can't follow a simple list. |
| 21:08.21 | Patlabor221 | means it's time to walk the plank |
| 21:08.45 | plaid_cow | and send ye ta Davy Jones' locker! |
| 21:10.03 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:10.56 | TyroneFHornigh | Why do you guys encourage him? |
| 21:11.08 | Patlabor221 | I do fear for the young |
| 21:11.49 | Patlabor221 | mostly cus it seems mean to just turn him away, but really he should learn to go to the right place |
| 21:12.46 | TyroneFHornigh | It would be mean if you just turned him away the first couple of times he did it. At this point he needs firm guidance. |
| 21:12.49 | Patlabor221 | or at least ask somone in a query |
| 21:13.06 | Patlabor221 | or a swift kick in the ass |
| 21:13.21 | TyroneFHornigh | That's about as firm as guidance can get. |
| 21:13.27 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 21:13.35 | creeperz | Yippee |
| 21:14.25 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (Spiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 21:14.42 | TyroneFHornigh | Now, that's spiff's IP address. |
| 21:14.51 | Patlabor221 | that it is |
| 21:14.54 | plaid_cow | hola, spaceman |
| 21:15.03 | Patlabor221 | can't belive he tried an @ |
| 21:15.16 | plaid_cow | @? |
| 21:15.24 | Patlabor221 | sorry and & in a nick |
| 21:15.49 | plaid_cow | is & a special char? |
| 21:16.07 | Patlabor221 | there are many things that can't be use in a nick |
| 21:16.09 | Patlabor221 | like spaces |
| 21:16.13 | Patlabor221 | and those marks |
| 21:16.24 | Patlabor221 | so /nick just stops it right there |
| 21:16.37 | Patlabor221 | like you can't use . in one ether |
| 21:17.24 | Patlabor221 | I don't know the entire list, but I think I saw & used in the proto for something |
| 21:17.35 | Spiff | Huh Tyrone? :-) |
| 21:17.49 | Spiff | Methinks you all lost me. LoL |
| 21:17.59 | Patlabor221 | probably |
| 21:18.02 | Patlabor221 | wasn't about you tho |
| 21:18.09 | plaid_cow | Spiff: there's was a false Spiff earlier |
| 21:18.15 | learner | You had a fan in here ealier Spiff |
| 21:18.17 | TyroneFHornigh | We had a spiff impostor earlier. |
| 21:18.19 | Spiff | Huh??? |
| 21:18.22 | Patlabor221 | meismyname was trying to be coy |
| 21:18.28 | Spiff | Why would anyone impersonate *me*? |
| 21:18.29 | Spiff | LoL |
| 21:18.30 | learner | He loved you and Dervish rather affectionately |
| 21:18.35 | Spiff | Ehhhhhh. |
| 21:18.42 | SGI_superman | its working now |
| 21:18.50 | Spiff | Same guy that came on as "Dervish is Spiff's butt buddy" last night. |
| 21:18.51 | Patlabor221 | cus he wanted to make his nick be spiff@derv=something not right |
| 21:19.00 | SGI_superman | have you back your icon |
| 21:19.00 | TyroneFHornigh | The obvious clue was his ip address |
| 21:19.17 | Spiff | Yeah. I have a static... so you'll always know if it's me or not. :-) |
| 21:19.35 | Patlabor221 | you would think when you have a static IP, it's not good to go off and be an ass |
| 21:19.42 | Patlabor221 | so does he |
| 21:19.52 | Spiff | LoL |
| 21:19.53 | plaid_cow | Ve have vays of knowing who zhou are |
| 21:19.55 | SGI_superman | dont play anymore with the registry |
| 21:20.01 | creeperz | Yea! |
| 21:20.04 | creeperz | I gotta go |
| 21:20.07 | Spiff | Is it 68.111.116.228 by any chance? |
| 21:20.07 | creeperz | Thanks guys |
| 21:20.08 | SGI_superman | bye |
| 21:20.33 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's knightmare totaly |
| 21:20.48 | Patlabor221 | or as I'm sure he'll say "his little brother" |
| 21:20.50 | learner | spiff, do you know who the admin of lanable is? |
| 21:20.53 | plaid_cow | Patlabor221: like, totally? |
| 21:20.55 | Spiff | Yep.. well... that's the same ISP anyway. I couldn't find a recent IP on him. |
| 21:20.59 | Spiff | Nope, learner. |
| 21:21.07 | Spiff | LoL Patlabor |
| 21:21.27 | Spiff | ~seen KnightMare |
| 21:21.27 | | knightmare <1000@ip68-107-165-224.lu.dl.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 243d 16h 1m 56s ago, saying: 'ok, thanks for the help... gotta go :)'. |
| 21:21.45 | Spiff | That's the last IP I have on him. Verrrrrry old. :-) |
| 21:21.52 | plaid_cow | two hundred forty three |
| 21:22.01 | SGI_superman | 243 |
| 21:22.38 | Spiff | So... if you're plaid_cow... and proton is purple_cow.... is there a plaid_purple_cow? :-) |
| 21:22.53 | plaid_purple_cow | Aha! |
| 21:22.54 | Patlabor221 | no, purple plad would just be silly |
| 21:22.56 | Patlabor221 | see |
| 21:23.00 | Patlabor221 | silly |
| 21:23.04 | Patlabor221 | arrr |
| 21:23.11 | TyroneFHornigh | There's a guernsey around somewhere, unless pat ate him. |
| 21:23.14 | plaid_cow | ewwww. a purple plaid |
| 21:23.25 | learner | Time for Spiff.. TO WALK THE PLANK!! arrrr |
| 21:23.26 | Patlabor221 | a what? |
| 21:23.27 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:23.32 | Patlabor221 | matey |
| 21:23.33 | plaid_purple_cow | How about... |
| 21:23.34 | plaid_cow | I was brown_cow earlier. Noboday asked how I was. |
| 21:23.41 | Patlabor221 | timbers=shiverd. |
| 21:23.44 | Mrs | Bah. |
| 21:23.45 | SGI_superman | ehi I lost my icon...someone have an icon for my pc |
| 21:23.47 | Patlabor221 | can't do a . |
| 21:23.49 | TyroneFHornigh | They didnt' make you walk the plank either. |
| 21:23.55 | plaid_cow | Mrs Spiff ??? |
| 21:23.57 | MrsOlearysCow | There. :_) |
| 21:24.02 | plaid_cow | Fire! |
| 21:24.07 | Patlabor221 | alien! |
| 21:24.09 | MrsOlearysCow | Hehehehe plaid |
| 21:24.36 | plaid_cow | ooops, he's supposed to be walking the plank, not in front of the firing squad |
| 21:24.41 | Patlabor221 | ~baneveryone |
| 21:24.56 | Patlabor221 | we have canons |
| 21:25.00 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:25.21 | bryjen | Mmmm, time for Mrs Oleary's beef BBQ ? |
| 21:25.23 | TyroneFHornigh | Shooting a cow with a cannon makes a big mess, and very small hamburgers |
| 21:25.25 | Patlabor221 | tho I modified mine to be electormagneticly boosted. |
| 21:26.30 | Spiff | Hmmm. The cow seems to have flown the coop. Pfff. ;-) |
| 21:26.42 | Patlabor221 | avast! |
| 21:26.46 | TyroneFHornigh | Yech, we're back to flying cow again. |
| 21:27.18 | SGI_superman | no please stop to talk about cow |
| 21:27.18 | learner | broadside a grue.. sheesh.. that's just _crazy_ man.. pfff |
| 21:27.28 | Spiff | What's the port for this server/ |
| 21:27.30 | Spiff | ?^ |
| 21:27.44 | Patlabor221 | I've got scurvy what do you expect |
| 21:27.44 | learner | arr |
| 21:27.48 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:27.50 | learner | and lice |
| 21:27.51 | learner | arr |
| 21:27.54 | TyroneFHornigh | ess |
| 21:28.05 | Patlabor221 | IRC servers are 6667 matie |
| 21:28.05 | bryjen | Arr-Ewwwww |
| 21:28.07 | Spiff | And would someone like to tell me what a "grue" is? |
| 21:28.14 | bryjen | ~dict grue |
| 21:28.14 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:28.25 | bryjen | Arr not |
| 21:28.32 | Patlabor221 | argv |
| 21:28.36 | learner | argc |
| 21:28.39 | Spiff | ~spell grue |
| 21:28.40 | | 'grue' may be spelled correctly |
| 21:28.44 | Spiff | Pffff. |
| 21:28.48 | bryjen | hmm |
| 21:28.56 | Patlabor221 | use google arr |
| 21:29.05 | *** join/#bzflag Tainted_Love (Mandi29@cookeville-24-159-21-77.midtn.chartertn.net) |
| 21:29.05 | Spiff | ~botslap |
| 21:29.06 | | ACTION cowers away from spiff |
| 21:29.06 | learner | ~google arr |
| 21:29.09 | SGI_superman | ~dict gruel |
| 21:29.11 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 21:29.22 | Spiff | Hey guys. Meet Mandi. ;-) |
| 21:29.30 | *** part/#bzflag drinian (~drinian@pcp153139pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 21:29.45 | Tainted_Love | Oh man...I stick out like a nice sore thumb in here.. |
| 21:30.00 | plaid_parrot | heh. how would one whistle in IRC ? |
| 21:30.27 | purple_cow | just like that |
| 21:30.28 | Spiff | Hehe. You need a name from an obscure comic book or something in order to fit in. 0:-) |
| 21:30.30 | plaid_parrot | well, yeah |
| 21:30.39 | Patlabor221 | awk pieces of 8! |
| 21:30.47 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:30.50 | plaid_parrot | grep 'em too! |
| 21:31.02 | TyroneFHornigh | what he sed. |
| 21:31.10 | Tainted_Love | Hmm.. |
| 21:31.12 | learner | true |
| 21:31.21 | Patlabor221 | rememember, pillage THEN burn |
| 21:31.57 | TyroneFHornigh | oh, that's rustle the cattle and ... |
| 21:31.58 | plaid_parrot | _take_ the women and _steal_ the horses |
| 21:32.21 | Spiff | Hmm. How about burn the women, steal the horses? Errr. No. |
| 21:32.25 | learner | Leave the gun, take the cannoli |
| 21:32.42 | Patlabor221 | are you a dislexic pirate? |
| 21:32.55 | SGI_superman | flying cow ..purple cow whistles...uhmmmmmm |
| 21:33.02 | TyroneFHornigh | I pledge allegiance to Hedy Lamarr... |
| 21:33.13 | plaid_parrot | Hedley! |
| 21:33.16 | SGI_superman | LSD around here or toooo beer |
| 21:33.30 | Spiff | You do LSD, SGI? ;) |
| 21:33.32 | Spiff | Tsk, tsk. |
| 21:33.40 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:33.41 | plaid_parrot | no pink elephants yet |
| 21:33.41 | SGI_superman | :o) |
| 21:33.53 | TyroneFHornigh | There's a bozo on this bus. |
| 21:34.05 | Spiff | Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds... |
| 21:34.43 | Patlabor221 | Jupiter? |
| 21:34.58 | Patlabor221 | umm I mean Jupiter, arrr? |
| 21:35.45 | SGI_superman | shine on you crazy diamond |
| 21:35.55 | plaid_parrot | captain's the right title, but proton's not a very fearsome pirate name. |
| 21:36.12 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:36.21 | Cap | Bah. |
| 21:36.23 | Cap | That didn't work. |
| 21:36.29 | purple_cow | more such gab and ye be walkin' the plank, ye scurvy knave |
| 21:36.33 | *** kick/#bzflag [Cap_N_Smith!~JeffM@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (There can be ONLY 1) |
| 21:36.39 | Patlabor221 | :P |
| 21:36.41 | learner | LoL!!!! |
| 21:36.44 | Patlabor221 | and ARR |
| 21:36.45 | plaid_parrot | awk! |
| 21:36.46 | learner | ARR |
| 21:36.52 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (Spiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 21:36.55 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:36.57 | learner | He WALKED THE PLANK! |
| 21:36.57 | Spiff | You butthead. :P |
| 21:37.10 | plaid_parrot | Mootiny Mr. Spifftian |
| 21:37.12 | Spiff | I forgot that 's areen't allowed. |
| 21:37.13 | Patlabor221 | ARR |
| 21:37.13 | Tainted_Love | lmfao |
| 21:37.32 | Spiff | Soo... it came out as Cap... not Cap'n. :-) |
| 21:37.53 | SGI_superman | ans now Spiff will be kicked another time again |
| 21:38.28 | Tainted_Love | wussy. |
| 21:38.39 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:38.56 | Tainted_Love | arr? |
| 21:39.03 | SGI_superman | smell coming out from the feet |
| 21:39.04 | Patlabor221 | arr! |
| 21:39.08 | plaid_parrot | Brave words for somebody whose ass just fell off onto the floor. Awk! |
| 21:39.17 | learner | it's talk like a pirate day! arr |
| 21:39.25 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:39.39 | Spiff | Okay.. so.... when did this channel stop being about BZ? :-) |
| 21:39.48 | learner | ~whaleslap Spiff |
| 21:39.53 | | ibot slaps Spiff upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 21:39.53 | HughOrca | Friday afternoon silliness |
| 21:39.53 | Tainted_Love | lmao |
| 21:39.54 | plaid_parrot | ~seen BZFlag |
| 21:39.55 | | bzflag <~timr@proxyle02.ext.ti.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 148d 22h 19m 1s ago, saying: 'Bonez39: you mean MTU?'. |
| 21:40.03 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:40.23 | Spiff | ~slap learner |
| 21:40.30 | Spiff | Wha? No small slap. |
| 21:40.37 | plaid_parrot | ~crush Spiff |
| 21:40.38 | | ACTION crushes Spiff with a full height scsi disk |
| 21:40.46 | learner | oh, no spiff.. you've moved up in slapability .. arr |
| 21:40.53 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:40.55 | learner | ~lart Spiff |
| 21:40.56 | learner | Arr |
| 21:41.14 | SGI_superman | poor Spiff |
| 21:41.18 | plaid_parrot | Awk, SCSI pirates! |
| 21:41.19 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:41.55 | Spiff | Nuh uh. |
| 21:42.03 | SGI_superman | ~dict arr |
| 21:42.06 | Spiff | I'm the only *real* spaceman here. So hah! :-P |
| 21:42.16 | Patlabor221 | ARE YOU ASKING FOR A Challenge!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:42.24 | plaid_parrot | Augh-oh |
| 21:42.31 | HughOrca | Someone is looking for another slapping :^) |
| 21:42.51 | SGI_superman | no today thanks |
| 21:42.51 | Spiff | Yes, yes sir I am. |
| 21:42.53 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 21:43.06 | Spiff | 1936 |
| 21:43.15 | SGI_superman | 19 |
| 21:43.20 | learner | ibot: force spiff to walk the plank |
| 21:43.21 | | ibot shoves spiff overboard |
| 21:43.27 | *** kick/#bzflag [Spiff!~JeffM@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (DOUBLE DUKKESSSSS!) |
| 21:43.36 | learner | lol |
| 21:43.40 | learner | arr |
| 21:43.43 | Patlabor221 | I never was one to beat around the bush |
| 21:43.43 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:43.47 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (Spiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 21:43.51 | Spiff | I hate you. :P |
| 21:43.57 | Patlabor221 | arrrr |
| 21:44.00 | david_v | is it just me, or has the discussion gone... shall we say, overboard ;) |
| 21:44.04 | SGI_superman | ~dict hate |
| 21:44.09 | Patlabor221 | AR!!!!! |
| 21:44.11 | plaid_parrot | And yet you come back for more? Masichist |
| 21:44.15 | Patlabor221 | we had a discussion? |
| 21:44.24 | learner | shot who? |
| 21:44.24 | Patlabor221 | I thought that left when creeper came in |
| 21:44.25 | SGI_superman | maso |
| 21:44.28 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:44.29 | david_v | Patlabor221: that might be part of my question :) |
| 21:44.33 | Spiff | Actually.. I returned because.. at one time... there was some sort of convo going on here. |
| 21:44.40 | Spiff | It seems to have long since been lost though. |
| 21:44.48 | Tainted_Love | Is it my fault? |
| 21:44.53 | Tainted_Love | I could leave, if you like. |
| 21:44.56 | learner | Arr .. where is that land lubber lanable |
| 21:44.58 | Spiff | Nah. :-) |
| 21:45.06 | Spiff | Well... you can leave them for all I care. Just don't leave me. ;-) |
| 21:45.19 | plaid_parrot | We burried it with arr treasure |
| 21:45.19 | learner | Wow |
| 21:45.24 | learner | that was pretty cheasy spiff :) |
| 21:45.28 | HughOrca | This is standard fare around here. We have been working on the release, and now it's time to release some silliness. |
| 21:45.29 | Tainted_Love | lol |
| 21:45.42 | Tainted_Love | I'm beginning to like you more and more learner ;) |
| 21:46.01 | Spiff | Be warned learner- she has a thing for morons. :P |
| 21:46.03 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:46.07 | Tainted_Love | Oh ouch! |
| 21:46.10 | HughOrca | Everyone likes learner. |
| 21:46.19 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 21:46.22 | purple_cow | learner is loveable |
| 21:46.22 | plaid_parrot | Dead spaceman tell no tales! Awk! |
| 21:46.23 | learner | Not a nice way to talk to the lady there Spiffy :/ |
| 21:46.24 | Patlabor221 | we do? |
| 21:46.29 | Patlabor221 | cus I personaly hate him |
| 21:46.33 | learner | grep |
| 21:46.43 | Patlabor221 | perv |
| 21:46.48 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~orchid@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:46.49 | learner | No you don't pay, you know you lub me .. arr |
| 21:46.56 | Spiff | Hiya bzgirl. :-) |
| 21:46.57 | learner | ARR! pat |
| 21:46.57 | Patlabor221 | shhhhh, she's here/ |
| 21:47.03 | Patlabor221 | umm arr |
| 21:47.04 | Nidhoggr | work bbq was HUGE. :/ now I need a nap. |
| 21:47.06 | Tainted_Love | lol |
| 21:47.08 | HughOrca | We can bring up pat's favorite URL again. |
| 21:47.09 | david_v | hi bzgirl |
| 21:47.10 | learner | lol |
| 21:47.19 | purple_cow | learner: speaking of lub, you gonna send out those siggraph stuffs? :) |
| 21:47.25 | bzgirl | hello |
| 21:47.27 | Patlabor221 | what http://learner.youaremyfriend.com |
| 21:47.29 | Spiff | Okay.. on three.. all of ya bow to bzg.. 0:-) |
| 21:47.36 | plaid_parrot | Ahoy |
| 21:47.42 | Patlabor221 | g'day lass |
| 21:47.46 | Patlabor221 | and arr |
| 21:47.54 | bzgirl | oh, pirate day? |
| 21:48.01 | bzgirl | i saw that on cnn |
| 21:48.03 | purple_cow | pirate day! |
| 21:48.10 | learner | Arr.. bzg .. ahoy matey |
| 21:48.10 | Patlabor221 | ARRR! |
| 21:48.12 | TyroneFHornigh | pirates didn't have nice words for women |
| 21:48.17 | david_v | hehe |
| 21:48.25 | plaid_parrot | TyroneFHornigh: exactly |
| 21:48.45 | Spiff | LoL |
| 21:48.49 | Patlabor221 | hence why I used lass |
| 21:48.53 | Patlabor221 | and not the "W" word |
| 21:48.56 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:49.03 | plaid_parrot | ah. good call Patlabarrrrr |
| 21:49.15 | TyroneFHornigh | They felt they were rather unlucky, and only useful for a small number of tasks. |
| 21:49.20 | Patlabor221 | you don't like women? |
| 21:49.33 | Patlabor221 | arrr! |
| 21:49.39 | Spiff | I like women. I don't like the other (piratish) names for 'em. |
| 21:49.44 | bzgirl | TyroneFHornigh: thats how I feel about men |
| 21:50.02 | learner | HAR har har arr |
| 21:50.02 | plaid_parrot | that's it |
| 21:50.09 | Patlabor221 | you said ether off |
| 21:50.12 | Patlabor221 | one is women |
| 21:50.14 | Patlabor221 | the other is bad |
| 21:50.17 | plaid_parrot | A spirited wench she is |
| 21:50.22 | Patlabor221 | arr |
| 21:50.26 | Spiff | Ack! You said the W word. :| |
| 21:50.32 | Tainted_Love | wench? |
| 21:50.35 | Patlabor221 | you'll live |
| 21:50.38 | Patlabor221 | ARR! |
| 21:50.55 | Tainted_Love | that isn't insulting to me..personally I could think of way worse a man *or pirate* could call me. |
| 21:50.58 | DreadPirateRober | damn |
| 21:50.59 | Spiff | bzgirls' gonna make you walk the plank |
| 21:51.00 | bzgirl | have you guys been pretending to be pirates all day? |
| 21:51.06 | plaid_parrot | You rob pirates? |
| 21:51.11 | DreadPirateRober | no, just about 20 min |
| 21:51.15 | DreadPirateRober | YES I DO |
| 21:51.22 | DreadPirateRober | that makes me the pirate of the pirates! |
| 21:51.28 | DreadPirateRober | and arr |
| 21:51.30 | Spiff | Ya couldn't fit it all, eh Patlabor? ;-) |
| 21:51.35 | DreadPirateRober | no :( |
| 21:51.35 | purple_cow | a meta-pirate, if you will |
| 21:51.38 | DreadPirateRober | arr :( |
| 21:52.02 | plaid_parrot | I'd rather not meeta-pirate |
| 21:52.16 | DreadPirateRober | better then a meaty-pirate |
| 21:53.03 | DreadPirateRober | arr |
| 21:53.08 | DreadPirateRober | don't you dare crap |
| 21:53.13 | Spiff | How fitting. Too stupid to speak for itself.. so it immitates others. That's learner alright! |
| 21:53.14 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 21:53.15 | Polly | polly want a cracker! |
| 21:53.16 | Polly | arr |
| 21:53.26 | plaid_parrot | Hey now! There only be room for 1 bird on this here pirate channel! |
| 21:53.28 | DreadPirateRober | ARRR! |
| 21:53.29 | Tainted_Love | polly be a cracker.. |
| 21:53.34 | plaid_parrot | ~lart Polly |
| 21:53.36 | DreadPirateRober | least we have some imagination :) |
| 21:54.04 | DreadPirateRober | Arrrr harharhar |
| 21:54.05 | david_v | i must say my picture of you guys have sharpened during the latest hour ;) |
| 21:54.06 | Spiff | I don't wanna be a pirate. I was an Untouchable Scurvy Dog for a while.. and it sucked. :-) |
| 21:54.24 | Spiff | Hehehe david. That'll teach ya to visit #bzflag. ;-) |
| 21:54.26 | DreadPirateRober | and that was a pirates fault? |
| 21:54.27 | TyroneFHornigh | Them's fighting words, but luckily I wasn't a USD |
| 21:54.30 | plaid_parrot | Fire! |
| 21:54.36 | david_v | Spiff: or not to :D |
| 21:54.44 | Spiff | Precisely, david. |
| 21:54.58 | DreadPirateRober | it's a team for a game, man, come on, it had nothing to do with pirates, separate fantasy from reality :) |
| 21:54.58 | plaid_parrot | Thankx TyroneFHornigh |
| 21:55.01 | Spiff | I think I'm learning not to visit it on "pirate day"... I'm being discriminated against. ;-) |
| 21:55.02 | DreadPirateRober | arrr |
| 21:55.04 | david_v | little too violent :) |
| 21:55.14 | Polly | arr arr ouch |
| 21:55.17 | david_v | is this room rated? ;) |
| 21:55.23 | DreadPirateRober | only because you resist |
| 21:55.28 | plaid_parrot | david_v: 220 volts |
| 21:55.33 | BlueBeard | There. :P |
| 21:55.35 | DreadPirateRober | join our rag-tag band |
| 21:55.35 | TyroneFHornigh | Resistance is futile |
| 21:55.38 | Tainted_Love | Oh I knew that was comming |
| 21:55.48 | BlueBeard | Now that is scary. |
| 21:55.56 | BlueBeard | She knows me well enough to predict me now. ;-) |
| 21:55.56 | plaid_parrot | R=E/I |
| 21:56.08 | DreadPirateRober | that's generaly a good thing there BlueBeard |
| 21:56.09 | PegLeg | YARRRRRRRR! |
| 21:56.10 | Tainted_Love | Maybe you're just predictable. |
| 21:56.19 | david_v | mind you, i'm studying computer science ATM, i could write a lot of weird formulas already :) |
| 21:56.24 | BlueBeard | Maybe you're in love. :-P |
| 21:56.26 | DreadPirateRober | you know contrary to popular belive, girls are NOT icky |
| 21:56.31 | Tainted_Love | Maybe. |
| 21:56.35 | DreadPirateRober | I can configrm this :) |
| 21:56.44 | DreadPirateRober | um arr |
| 21:56.44 | Tainted_Love | I can as well. |
| 21:56.45 | BlueBeard | Who was stupid enough to make *that* belief popualr? ;-) |
| 21:56.47 | Tainted_Love | I'm very far from icky. |
| 21:56.52 | TyroneFHornigh | I have never held popular beliefs. |
| 21:56.54 | DreadPirateRober | they smell nice :) |
| 21:56.59 | Tainted_Love | lol |
| 21:57.07 | BlueBeard | Hmm. |
| 21:57.08 | Tainted_Love | Most of them do..yeah |
| 21:57.09 | DreadPirateRober | arrr |
| 21:57.11 | plaid_parrot | unlike pirates |
| 21:57.16 | plaid_parrot | arr |
| 21:57.20 | BlueBeard | But Mandi looks nice too. 0:-) |
| 21:57.24 | DreadPirateRober | space pirate, we have showers |
| 21:57.27 | Tainted_Love | Oh hush with you |
| 21:57.29 | Tainted_Love | I do not. |
| 21:57.36 | BlueBeard | She lies too. ;-) |
| 21:57.39 | DreadPirateRober | arr |
| 21:57.44 | Tainted_Love | Nahh..you do. |
| 21:57.49 | TyroneFHornigh | so post a picture there BlueBeard |
| 21:57.54 | BlueBeard | Nope. |
| 21:57.59 | BlueBeard | Not for you creeeeeeeeps. :-P |
| 21:58.00 | BlueBeard | LoL |
| 21:58.08 | BlueBeard | Patlabor's seen her tho. :-D |
| 21:58.16 | DreadPirateRober | cus I am COOOOO |
| 21:58.17 | Tainted_Love | Who's seen me? |
| 21:58.21 | DreadPirateRober | arr! |
| 21:58.24 | Tainted_Love | And you aren't blind?!? |
| 21:58.30 | BlueBeard | DreadPirateRoberts..... aka my good buddy Jeff. ;-) |
| 21:58.36 | DreadPirateRober | no no |
| 21:58.42 | DreadPirateRober | who? |
| 21:58.46 | DreadPirateRober | umm arr |
| 21:58.52 | Tainted_Love | Ohhh |
| 21:59.21 | plaid_parrot | pay no attention to the man behind the fake eye-patch! |
| 21:59.23 | TyroneFHornigh | The triangle is revealed, and the curtain falls on Act I |
| 21:59.58 | plaid_parrot | PegLeg: watch out for those knot-holes in the deck! |
| 22:00.02 | DreadPirateRober | I need one of those today |
| 22:00.04 | plaid_parrot | arr |
| 22:00.22 | PegLeg | :) |
| 22:00.39 | SGI_superman | arr |
| 22:00.51 | BlueBeard | Hmm. |
| 22:00.55 | DreadPirateRober | dude that's nasty |
| 22:00.56 | plaid_parrot | now that takes skill |
| 22:01.10 | plaid_parrot | Ewww, DreadPirateRober |
| 22:01.19 | plaid_parrot | and would probly hurt |
| 22:01.24 | DreadPirateRober | what, it hasn't been cleaned since the boradsideing |
| 22:01.31 | BlueBeard | Some people have filthy minds. DreadPirateRober has a filthy mind. |
| 22:01.47 | *** join/#bzflag quol-mobile (~upirc@205-200-236-238.mts.net) |
| 22:01.51 | DreadPirateRober | what, I just think that you should clean your plank after each battle |
| 22:01.53 | BlueBeard | Hiyaz Quol. :-D |
| 22:02.04 | Polly | Arrr.. it's a quol-matey |
| 22:02.07 | quol-mobile | heya |
| 22:02.16 | BlueBeard | Grab a pirate name, bro. ;-) |
| 22:02.16 | plaid_parrot | DreadPirateRober: good hygiene and all |
| 22:02.26 | quol-mobile | taolking on my phone on the train |
| 22:02.52 | BlueBeard | You guys need to read a joke.. lemme find it. |
| 22:03.21 | Polly | Arr.. irc on a train .. tis good laddy |
| 22:03.34 | TyroneFHornigh | 3 pirates were talking on a train, the first pirate says to the second pirate, i need to buy a matey. |
| 22:03.34 | PegLeg | two lawyers walk into a bar. |
| 22:03.37 | PegLeg | the third one ducks. |
| 22:03.44 | plaid_parrot | quequeg |
| 22:03.56 | q-oneleg | 'tis indeed polly |
| 22:04.05 | q-oneleg | you want a cracker |
| 22:04.38 | plaid_parrot | ibot: botsnack |
| 22:04.38 | | plaid_parrot: thanks |
| 22:05.09 | PegLeg | :) |
| 22:05.12 | purple_cow | if you were a duck, i would say you were on quack |
| 22:05.16 | *** kick/#bzflag [Polly!~JeffM@208.48.199.214] by DreadPirateRober (shuddap polly, your allready overweight) |
| 22:05.16 | *** join/#bzflag Polly (sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 22:05.17 | purple_cow | arr! |
| 22:05.19 | Polly | arr |
| 22:05.27 | DreadPirateRober | arr! |
| 22:05.35 | PegLeg | evast, mayteeez! |
| 22:06.19 | plaid_parrot | you just can't spell that sound :( |
| 22:07.07 | TyroneFHornigh | yes |
| 22:07.15 | david_v | is everybody mutating into parrots here? |
| 22:07.19 | BlueBeard | http://www.jarchives.com/pirate.htm |
| 22:07.19 | Zephyr | And I'm the reason he's insane |
| 22:07.25 | Zephyr | That comforts me for some reason |
| 22:07.37 | TyroneFHornigh | They're coming to take him away haha |
| 22:07.50 | SGI_aka_Ste | tgif |
| 22:07.51 | Zephyr | Hoo hoo hee hee haa ha ho hum |
| 22:08.23 | *** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@home-dhcp6-8.colorado.edu) |
| 22:08.52 | *** join/#bzflag quol-mobile (~upirc@205-200-236-238.mts.net) |
| 22:09.09 | TyroneFHornigh | learner is just trying to increase his lead in the number of nicks on the irc stats. He's an http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ |
| 22:09.15 | BlueBeard | And tha Q man returns. :-) |
| 22:09.20 | SGI_aka_Ste | hello quol |
| 22:09.46 | q-oneleg | hello |
| 22:09.51 | BlueBeard | Arrr! |
| 22:09.53 | plaid_parrot | what was the Q name in moby dick ? |
| 22:10.02 | TyroneFHornigh | Queequeg |
| 22:10.06 | Zephyr | arr |
| 22:10.06 | q-oneleg | got kicked because phone wrang |
| 22:10.22 | NinjaSox | ARRR! |
| 22:10.26 | BlueBeard | Not to be a fool or anything.... |
| 22:10.27 | TyroneFHornigh | Another student of history ;^) |
| 22:10.32 | BlueBeard | But who is AnneBonny? :-) |
| 22:10.42 | NinjaPirate | RUN IM THRU!!!!!! |
| 22:10.50 | SGI_aka_Ste | bonny and clyde |
| 22:10.54 | Zephyr | Arr.. an irish lass nonetheless |
| 22:11.09 | NinjaPirate | everyone LOVES capy morgan |
| 22:11.16 | NinjaPirate | specialy with coke |
| 22:11.27 | CaptMorgan | :) |
| 22:11.28 | TyroneFHornigh | ~botsmack |
| 22:11.28 | | sure, wanna snort some with me? |
| 22:11.35 | BlueBeard | Oh... I thought it was a pirate name. Hmm.... I unno. |
| 22:11.42 | plaid_parrot | wrong kinda coke there TFH |
| 22:11.45 | NinjaPirate | or in those little candies |
| 22:11.50 | NinjaPirate | make me some little candies |
| 22:11.52 | NinjaPirate | please |
| 22:12.00 | NinjaPirate | I'll give you a $1 |
| 22:12.06 | TyroneFHornigh | You have your pleasures. Let others have theirs. ;^) |
| 22:12.20 | Zephyr | Drain, drain the bowl, each fearless soul! |
| 22:12.31 | TyroneFHornigh | Poof, NinjaPirate is now some little candies |
| 22:12.54 | SGI-onehand | is true |
| 22:12.56 | NinjaPirate | sw33333333333333337 |
| 22:12.56 | plaid_parrot | SGI: Hook? |
| 22:13.00 | NinjaPirate | with a capital 3 |
| 22:13.05 | SGI-onehand | no bad |
| 22:13.06 | TyroneFHornigh | Please don't tell us what the other hand is doing :/ |
| 22:13.16 | Zephyr | arr |
| 22:13.20 | Zephyr | harrr arr |
| 22:13.25 | TyroneFHornigh | eww |
| 22:13.52 | plaid_parrot | TyroneFHornigh is a filthy minded sea-dog too! arr |
| 22:14.15 | TyroneFHornigh | No TyroneFHornigh is a dirty old man in the park. |
| 22:14.19 | plaid_parrot | Hey! |
| 22:14.46 | Spiff | By the way..... |
| 22:14.58 | Spiff | What happened to my impersonator? Did he leave? Or get booted? |
| 22:15.11 | plaid_parrot | he got bored quick. |
| 22:15.19 | Spiff | Aww. How sad. :-) |
| 22:15.37 | Spiff | Would the real slim Spiffy please stand up? ;-) |
| 22:16.00 | bryjen | ~crush Spiff |
| 22:16.05 | SGI-onehand | and walk outside |
| 22:16.18 | Spiff | ~whaleslap bryjen |
| 22:16.19 | | ibot slaps bryjen upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 22:16.20 | quol-onthetrain | so- the pirate theme ends? |
| 22:16.34 | bryjen | oh, wait. I'd already smushed you down to slimmness |
| 22:16.51 | Spiff | ibot didn't do it tho. |
| 22:16.51 | | i haven't a clue, Spiff |
| 22:16.55 | Spiff | She did *my* bidding. ;-) |
| 22:17.00 | quol-onthetrain | what inspired the pirates? |
| 22:17.07 | SGI-onehand | gold |
| 22:17.09 | bryjen | Spiff: she did earlier. didn't need to again. |
| 22:17.16 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot gets mad at bry |
| 22:17.16 | | TyroneFHornigh: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 22:17.30 | bryjen | she's fickle sometimes |
| 22:17.32 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot: eat me |
| 22:17.33 | | ACTION eats tyronefhornigh and falls over dead |
| 22:17.47 | bryjen | LOL |
| 22:17.47 | NinjaPirate | now now be nice to ibot, you know she's sentive |
| 22:18.01 | Zephyr | scented? |
| 22:18.02 | TyroneFHornigh | but not sentient |
| 22:18.04 | tea|tree_ | Ninja? |
| 22:18.08 | Spiff | Geez. Stop abusing her. ;-) |
| 22:18.14 | tea|tree_ | Pat? |
| 22:18.40 | TyroneFHornigh | We never do anything to ibot until she starts acting up. ;^) |
| 22:18.41 | quol-onthetrain | ssh works on my phone also - cool !!!!! |
| 22:18.53 | Spiff | Rock on, quol. ;-) |
| 22:18.57 | tea|tree_ | quuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuol |
| 22:18.57 | Spiff | So... where is the train going? |
| 22:19.06 | SGI-onehand | a big rock from the sky |
| 22:19.06 | quol-onthetrain | home |
| 22:19.15 | bryjen | Arrr, t'was a right fun melee of foolishness we had |
| 22:19.26 | Spiff | Arrr! That it was matie! |
| 22:19.38 | Spiff | Cool, Quol. :-) |
| 22:19.38 | Tainted_Love | Well, I'm outta here folks. I'll come back sometime maybe.. |
| 22:19.38 | quol-onthetrain | travel about 3 hours/day :( |
| 22:19.45 | Tainted_Love | Bbyes. |
| 22:19.50 | TyroneFHornigh | Adios |
| 22:19.50 | Spiff | C-ya on messenger Mandi. *mwah* |
| 22:19.51 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 22:19.56 | Spiff | 0:-) |
| 22:20.21 | Zephyr | are you old enough to be mwah-ing spiff? |
| 22:20.24 | quol-onthetrain | spiff - move yet? |
| 22:20.25 | bryjen | Now's just left to burrey the treasure and be disposin of the witnesses |
| 22:20.50 | Spiff | Sadly.... nope. Bah! And she comes back to IN next month.... and then I'm going to be moving.. :-( |
| 22:21.01 | Spiff | Only to Mandi, Zephyr. :-) |
| 22:21.39 | Spiff | to/with that is |
| 22:23.08 | quol-onthetrain | well , I have to go - time to drive |
| 22:23.16 | Spiff | C-ya Quol. :-) |
| 22:23.38 | *** part/#bzflag quol-onthetrain (~upirc@205-200-236-238.mts.net) |
| 22:24.22 | SGI-onehand | bye |
| 22:25.02 | SGI-onehand | im going me to |
| 22:25.08 | SGI-onehand | bye bey |
| 22:25.13 | SGI-onehand | arr |
| 22:25.19 | TyroneFHornigh | Adieu |
| 22:25.39 | Spiff | C-ya SGI. Arrrrrr! |
| 22:25.57 | Zephyr | arr.. bye matey arrr |
| 22:26.14 | Spiff | Zephyr- Walk the plank! |
| 22:26.15 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 22:26.41 | Zephyr | Arr lad.. don't make me hurt you. |
| 22:27.38 | Spiff | Lad? Arrrrrrrr! I'm BlueBeard.. you're just a scurvy cabin boy! ;-) |
| 22:27.41 | TyroneFHornigh | The earth says to the moon "don't make me hurt you." ignoring where the power actually comes from. ;^) |
| 22:27.49 | Patlabor221 | he is the force of the wind |
| 22:27.53 | Patlabor221 | do not mock him |
| 22:28.07 | Nidhoggr | hrm.. force of the wind... he should eat less beans. :) |
| 22:28.16 | Spiff | But a Zephyr is a calm wind. I'm not scared of those. ;-) |
| 22:28.46 | Zephyr | Calm and furious with great wrath shall be unleashed! |
| 22:31.49 | Nidhoggr | Calm and furious == SBD? |
| 22:32.05 | tea|tree_ | Spiff is a 1337 h4x0r |
| 22:32.46 | TyroneFHornigh | How many lines of code have you produced, Spiff? |
| 22:32.54 | Spiff | Pffff. I unno. :-) |
| 22:33.02 | Spiff | I didn't get far beyond streams and stuff. |
| 22:33.26 | Spiff | Then I got into 3D models and graphic stuff and all.. I'm still trying to decide which one interests me the most. |
| 22:33.35 | TyroneFHornigh | They don't make hackers like they used to. ;^) |
| 22:33.52 | Zephyr | if (strncmp(player[i].callSign, "Spiff", 5) == 0) abuse_and_randomly_kick(i); |
| 22:34.31 | TyroneFHornigh | I'm glad I'm not Spiffarooni, oh wise god of boundary checking. ;^) |
| 22:34.39 | Spiff | Pff. :-P |
| 22:34.45 | Spiff | Hmm Tyrone? |
| 22:35.04 | Patlabor221 | I'm the God of Biscuts! |
| 22:35.26 | TyroneFHornigh | Zephyr likes his strncmp. |
| 22:36.06 | Spiff | And yet you can't spell Biscuit. |
| 22:36.13 | TyroneFHornigh | How long is that biscuit? |
| 22:36.23 | Patlabor221 | shuddap@! |
| 22:36.34 | TyroneFHornigh | About 5 bytes. ;^) |
| 22:36.35 | Patlabor221 | it's round |
| 22:36.53 | Patlabor221 | with choko chrispies |
| 22:37.10 | Zephyr | sizeof(biscuit_t) |
| 22:37.36 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot: eat biscuit_t |
| 22:37.37 | | ACTION eats biscuit_t and falls over dead |
| 22:37.39 | Zephyr | == sizeof(yummy_t) |
| 22:38.26 | Spiff | ibot: bite Zephyr |
| 22:38.27 | | wish i knew, Spiff |
| 22:38.31 | Spiff | LoL |
| 22:38.46 | tea|tree_ | ibot you 1337 h4x0r |
| 22:38.47 | | tea|tree_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 22:38.53 | Spiff | I need to get a list of the things that ibot actually does. |
| 22:39.20 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot: tell Spiff help |
| 22:39.42 | TyroneFHornigh | saucy wench that ibot ;^) |
| 22:40.08 | Spiff | ~help |
| 22:40.09 | Spiff | ? |
| 22:40.32 | Spiff | Oh wow. That's a big list. :-) |
| 22:40.53 | TyroneFHornigh | Start reading, and let us know when you've finished. |
| 22:41.00 | Patlabor221 | do /server help |
| 22:41.26 | Spiff | Too busy talkin' to Mandi to *just* read that. ;-) |
| 22:41.29 | Spiff | But okay. |
| 22:42.23 | Spiff | ibot: kick learner |
| 22:42.24 | | Spiff: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 22:42.30 | TyroneFHornigh | You're a mean one PureLiquidEvil |
| 22:42.33 | Spiff | I don't get it. :| |
| 22:42.34 | Spiff | LoL |
| 22:42.52 | PureLiquidEvil | hey I say if ya got it, flaunt it! |
| 22:43.05 | TyroneFHornigh | What's your excuse? |
| 22:43.32 | PureLiquidEvil | I need one? |
| 22:43.41 | PureLiquidEvil | I prefer reasons :) |
| 22:43.57 | TyroneFHornigh | Flaunting without having ;^) |
| 22:44.05 | PureLiquidEvil | who says? |
| 22:44.09 | PureLiquidEvil | I keep it in a bottle |
| 22:44.13 | PureLiquidEvil | for special ocasions |
| 22:44.18 | TyroneFHornigh | on your desk? |
| 22:44.26 | PureLiquidEvil | UNDER the desk |
| 22:44.38 | TyroneFHornigh | You need to label it in the picture. |
| 22:45.18 | PureLiquidEvil | it's in the inky blackness under the desk |
| 22:45.22 | PureLiquidEvil | by all those cables |
| 22:45.32 | PureLiquidEvil | it' gets mad when you photo it |
| 22:45.56 | TyroneFHornigh | I've heard that story before, you're just trying to get some poor unsuspecting young thing to climb under the desk for you. ;^) |
| 22:46.17 | Spiff | Like a mouse? |
| 22:46.28 | TyroneFHornigh | I also fear for the young. |
| 22:46.40 | PureLiquidEvil | hell no, I would not send anyone down there, it's dangerous |
| 22:50.55 | Nidhoggr | it's a musical group |
| 22:51.08 | Nidhoggr | "loosely speaking" :) |
| 22:51.27 | Spiff | Hmm. Okies. |
| 22:53.40 | Spiff | The best place to buy CD's on the net is http://www.cdnow.com |
| 22:53.49 | PureLiquidEvil | I thought it was one guy |
| 22:53.50 | Spiff | ibot: Where is the best place to buy CD's on the net? |
| 22:53.51 | | Spiff: I think you lost me on that one |
| 22:53.52 | Spiff | LoL |
| 22:53.58 | Spiff | Darnit. ;-) |
| 22:54.05 | PureLiquidEvil | google |
| 22:54.12 | PureLiquidEvil | it's good for what ails ya |
| 22:54.37 | PureLiquidEvil | mmmmmm ULTRA |
| 22:54.58 | PureLiquidEvil | you would hate it spiff |
| 22:55.13 | Spiff | Why's that? |
| 22:55.20 | PureLiquidEvil | you just would |
| 22:55.25 | PureLiquidEvil | it's not your type |
| 22:55.31 | Spiff | Ok then. :-) |
| 22:55.38 | Spiff | I listen to just about everything.... unless it's like country. Ick. |
| 22:56.12 | Spiff | ~d |
| 22:56.15 | PureLiquidEvil | don't say I didn't warn ay |
| 22:56.16 | PureLiquidEvil | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/tunes/things_jeff_thinks_are_good/KMDFM%20-%20Ultra.mp3 |
| 22:57.32 | Spiff | Not all that bad. But somewhat depressing. |
| 22:57.41 | PureLiquidEvil | see |
| 22:57.57 | PureLiquidEvil | naw, it's the chun-lee butt kickin song |
| 22:58.05 | learner | That rocks. |
| 22:58.06 | Spiff | The guitarist isn't too shabby. He needs to be more original tho. :-) |
| 22:58.15 | learner | sounds like massive attack |
| 22:58.18 | PureLiquidEvil | I think it's a synth man |
| 22:58.27 | PureLiquidEvil | it's KMDFM |
| 22:58.36 | Spiff | Regardless... synth or guitar.. it still needs to be more original. :-) |
| 22:58.44 | Spiff | Just sounds like some of those old Van Halen taps. Yich. |
| 22:58.50 | Spiff | But not even that fancy. ;-) |
| 22:59.00 | PureLiquidEvil | how do you know it's not origonal |
| 22:59.07 | PureLiquidEvil | do you know when the song even came out? |
| 22:59.19 | Spiff | Noooooooooooooooooo. Not like that.. |
| 22:59.22 | learner | isn't it kmfdm?? |
| 22:59.26 | Spiff | I mean original.. like... creative. |
| 22:59.30 | PureLiquidEvil | it may be |
| 22:59.34 | PureLiquidEvil | I only go by the tag |
| 22:59.43 | Spiff | He just plays the same taps over and over again. :-) |
| 22:59.46 | PureLiquidEvil | it could have been the epidomy of creativeness |
| 22:59.50 | PureLiquidEvil | it may be older then you |
| 23:00.09 | PureLiquidEvil | as most OG industrial did |
| 23:00.58 | learner | yep.. kmfdm: http://www.djmaharaja.com/kmfdm/disc.html |
| 23:01.12 | PureLiquidEvil | ok |
| 23:01.18 | learner | nihil disc |
| 23:01.37 | learner | that's cool, don't think I've ever heard them |
| 23:02.00 | PureLiquidEvil | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/tunes/things_jeff_thinks_are_good/Kmfdm%20-%20Juke%20Joint%20Jezebel%20.mp3 |
| 23:02.10 | PureLiquidEvil | that's the only 2 I have ripped |
| 23:02.15 | PureLiquidEvil | I have 2 of there full Cds |
| 23:03.34 | larsl | PureLiquidEvil: Did you get my memo? |
| 23:03.43 | PureLiquidEvil | memo? |
| 23:03.45 | PureLiquidEvil | no |
| 23:04.13 | PureLiquidEvil | ahh it won't show them if I'm not me |
| 23:04.16 | PureLiquidEvil | and I'm not me now |
| 23:04.21 | PureLiquidEvil | do I need to be me? |
| 23:04.24 | larsl | I sent it this morning. |
| 23:04.30 | PureLiquidEvil | cus I think I'm kinda booring. |
| 23:04.42 | learner | Wow, seriously reminds me of gravity kills |
| 23:04.48 | PureLiquidEvil | trillian doesn't show me server messages it seems |
| 23:04.58 | PureLiquidEvil | I think there may be some of the same guys in it |
| 23:05.11 | learner | ah, sweet |
| 23:05.14 | learner | that would explain it |
| 23:05.22 | PureLiquidEvil | I think |
| 23:05.45 | larsl | I made a GCC3 RPM this morning, it's at http://www.d.kth.se/~d00-llu/bzflag*.rpm |
| 23:05.54 | PureLiquidEvil | ohh cool, thanks |
| 23:06.00 | larsl | I'll try to get the full address, but I can't log in to the server right now. |
| 23:06.01 | PureLiquidEvil | I'll post it up |
| 23:06.18 | PureLiquidEvil | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/tunes/things_jeff_thinks_are_good/Gravity%20Kills%20-%20Goodbye.mp3 |
| 23:06.27 | PureLiquidEvil | I'll check the memo when I get home |
| 23:06.31 | PureLiquidEvil | and get the URL from there |
| 23:06.35 | larsl | http://www.d.kth.se/~d00-llu/bzflag/bzflag-1.9.3.20030919-0.i386.rpm |
| 23:06.35 | PureLiquidEvil | no wories :) |
| 23:06.39 | Spiff | Brb |
| 23:06.52 | PureLiquidEvil | son of a..... |
| 23:07.01 | PureLiquidEvil | rpm is registerd to freakin real player |
| 23:09.11 | learner | heh |
| 23:09.24 | TyroneFHornigh | Doesn anyone want to see a funny driver's license picture? |
| 23:09.32 | larsl | Breakbeat metal? |
| 23:10.06 | PureLiquidEvil | whoot burly brawl time |
| 23:10.19 | TyroneFHornigh | Another Soul Calibre day? |
| 23:10.22 | learner | sure |
| 23:11.41 | larsl | Why is the .dmg file for OSX twice as big as the source packages and the Win32 installer? |
| 23:12.03 | PureLiquidEvil | WELCOME BACK TO THE STAGE OF HISTORY! |
| 23:12.13 | PureLiquidEvil | we unlocked Sung-Mina last night :) |
| 23:12.17 | PureLiquidEvil | arr |
| 23:12.37 | learner | because we know the mac users will have better connections than most anyways so why not flaunt it ;) |
| 23:14.01 | learner | plus we ship fully resolved frameworks |
| 23:14.11 | learner | not sure if the dmg might not be compressed |
| 23:14.12 | TyroneFHornigh | The full mac package is about 23 MB compiled. The compressed disk image is about 7MB. It contains everything, including full debug information. I'm not sure what's in the Win32 distribution, but it's hard to compare to the sources. |
| 23:14.38 | PureLiquidEvil | open up the nsis installer file and you can see what I include |
| 23:14.50 | PureLiquidEvil | it has a list of the files and dirs that it pulls from |
| 23:14.51 | *** join/#bzflag drinian (~drinian@pcp153139pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:15.25 | TyroneFHornigh | Does it include debug symbols? |
| 23:16.02 | PureLiquidEvil | no |
| 23:16.05 | PureLiquidEvil | release only build |
| 23:16.11 | PureLiquidEvil | our symbos are internal |
| 23:16.20 | PureLiquidEvil | and would not run on a release mode system |
| 23:16.28 | learner | eep |
| 23:16.49 | TyroneFHornigh | Maybe I'll try building a deployment build and we can compare sizes then. |
| 23:17.36 | PureLiquidEvil | debug is pointless ithout source, so make them build tehre own |
| 23:18.24 | TyroneFHornigh | Actually crash dumps with debug symbols are rather useful at times, especially during testing. YMMV. |
| 23:19.17 | learner | Yea, os x can dump a crash file that has a stack trace -- rather useful |
| 23:19.33 | PureLiquidEvil | ok |
| 23:20.07 | PureLiquidEvil | perhaps make debugers for testing and a deployment for the final release |
| 23:20.18 | PureLiquidEvil | cus your like 2x the windows download |
| 23:20.33 | TyroneFHornigh | Definitely deployment for final release. ;^) |
| 23:20.59 | learner | I'd be more comfortable doing that once the client is deemed stable (which as of last "stable" release it was not) |
| 23:21.40 | learner | but it seems the most serious bug that we've observed may actually be fixed now |
| 23:21.48 | PureLiquidEvil | ahhh |
| 23:21.52 | PureLiquidEvil | sweet |
| 23:22.08 | learner | hopefully sweet |
| 23:22.25 | PureLiquidEvil | well I usualy don't presweet |
| 23:23.04 | TyroneFHornigh | On the 1.7g2 release, we're larger than the win32 (although not double) and smaller than the sgi release. |
| 23:25.16 | TyroneFHornigh | learner and I spent a lot of time last night trying to get the mac client to hang. We didn't manage to succeed. |
| 23:25.26 | PureLiquidEvil | that is allways good |
| 23:25.47 | TyroneFHornigh | That's usually not good. |
| 23:31.57 | PureLiquidEvil | arr |
| 23:32.53 | learner | I think we scared david_v today |
| 23:32.55 | learner | arr |
| 23:33.44 | PureLiquidEvil | avast |
| 23:35.37 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-255-186.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 23:35.58 | larsl | Nice, bullets are bouncing against the ground. Was that fixed recently? |
| 23:36.23 | PureLiquidEvil | yeah |
| 23:37.59 | *** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@home-dhcp6-8.colorado.edu) |
| 23:41.30 | larsl | =) |
| 23:42.56 | learner | I used it to notify my players that the server is reseting |
| 23:44.03 | TyroneFHornigh | Does ibot know about the 1.9 bzflist? |
| 23:44.41 | TyroneFHornigh | ~literal bzflist |
| 23:47.26 | TyroneFHornigh | ~bzflist |
| 23:47.40 | TyroneFHornigh | ~bzflist9 |
| 23:48.01 | TyroneFHornigh | ~bzflist19 |
| 23:55.14 | TyroneFHornigh | Baby boy panda is getting big. It's easier to see him on the web cam. |
| 23:56.55 | larsl | Has the server reply to MsgQueryGame changed since 1.7g2? |
| 23:57.46 | larsl | Hm, seems like it has. |
| 23:59.21 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
