| 00:05.37 | Tupone | patlabor221: poke |
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| 00:05.58 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:06.00 | Tupone | we used to have 2 port 5154 and 5155 |
| 00:06.01 | patlabor221 | peek |
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| 00:06.05 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:06.18 | patlabor221 | now it's just 5154 by default |
| 00:06.48 | Tupone | port 5154 is also used for serverlist, TCP, from bzfls |
| 00:06.53 | patlabor221 | for it all |
| 00:07.01 | learner | chikorita, what are you doing sitting in the corner over there? :) |
| 00:07.01 | Tupone | but there is no problem for that cause is tcp |
| 00:07.17 | Tupone | broadcast request used the same port, |
| 00:07.20 | patlabor221 | it should work fine, it's been like this for aw hile |
| 00:07.22 | Tupone | and this is the problem |
| 00:07.38 | patlabor221 | server discovery should be UDP |
| 00:07.43 | patlabor221 | that's what Tim wants it to be |
| 00:08.03 | Tupone | problem is that OS refuse to connect to socket to the same port |
| 00:08.30 | patlabor221 | it's UPD it's connectionless |
| 00:09.04 | Tupone | and also if we use different port for the server port (e.g -p 5155) we need also to respond to query on 5154 |
| 00:09.28 | Tupone | so we need to use 1 socket in case of 5154, to socket for non standard port |
| 00:09.40 | patlabor221 | what do you sugest |
| 00:09.48 | patlabor221 | a seperatea lan discovery port? |
| 00:09.58 | Tupone | Yeah, like it was before |
| 00:10.26 | Tupone | Otherwise I think I'll take time to recode the whole |
| 00:10.43 | patlabor221 | if that's what it takes, then sure, you can try running it by Tim, or just doing it |
| 00:10.53 | patlabor221 | as it is lan, I don't think it needs to be THAT port bound. |
| 00:11.01 | Tupone | that port will be used only on local lan |
| 00:11.08 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:11.26 | patlabor221 | do what needs be, if anyone don't like it they can peep, just test the hell outa it. |
| 00:11.28 | patlabor221 | I gota go |
| 00:11.47 | Tupone | so, if I can change the BroadcastPort to, say 5155. |
| 00:24.49 | Bagheera | the bills they are paid.... :( |
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| 00:50.11 | JBDiGriz | I have a small request before you check the project file in again. Could you make the mediafile directory project relative rather than absolute pathname? Your home directory structure is interesting, but it doesn't match with mine. ;^) |
| 00:52.08 | StargateSG1 | yes.. I noticed that last night right when I commited, but it was too late to fix :) |
| 00:52.11 | StargateSG1 | sry :) |
| 00:52.39 | StargateSG1 | i still have no idea how/why it did that -- i didn't change anything in that directory, as far as I remember |
| 00:53.00 | JBDiGriz | it's not a problem. I'm fixing it right now, but I didn't want you to overlay my fixes. :^) |
| 00:53.07 | fiberchunks | it's all your fault, didn't you know this? ;) |
| 00:53.22 | JBDiGriz | high fiber .... |
| 00:53.33 | fiberchunks | no, little buzzed though, thanks :) |
| 00:53.46 | fiberchunks | and a high-d high-d ho to you to, jb |
| 00:54.22 | JBDiGriz | Let me tell you a story 'bout Minnie the Moocher |
| 00:54.27 | StargateSG1 | it's always my fault anyhow.. I accept that willingly :) |
| 00:54.55 | fiberchunks | you watch too much tv, stargate-boy, that's the problem |
| 00:54.57 | fiberchunks | ;) |
| 00:55.13 | JBDiGriz | I always accept blame, as long as it comes with a big check. ;^) |
| 00:56.21 | fiberchunks | heh, I would accept blame, if only it _did_ come with a big paycheck :) |
| 00:57.08 | fiberchunks | so how far are you all from an official 1.9 release? |
| 00:57.15 | JBDiGriz | paycheck implies employment. sometimes it's easier to blame the contractor :) |
| 00:57.21 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 00:57.38 | JBDiGriz | I would guess about 320 km. |
| 00:57.54 | fiberchunks | hrm, can you convert to AU please |
| 00:58.03 | fiberchunks | I only deal in extremely large values |
| 00:58.12 | JBDiGriz | ~convert 320 km to au |
| 00:58.20 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 00:58.34 | fiberchunks | or in this case, extremely small values ;) |
| 00:59.14 | JBDiGriz | I have some email here, which claims you can do something about that. |
| 00:59.43 | fiberchunks | I never recieve those lovely mails ;) |
| 00:59.50 | JBDiGriz | Lucky you. |
| 00:59.59 | fiberchunks | from peddles in vacuutronic devices for nether regions |
| 01:00.07 | fiberchunks | *peddlers |
| 01:01.03 | JBDiGriz | The latest one claims to use a patch. Supposedly, you can even go to their web site for before and after pictures. I had to retrain my junk mail filter to catch it. |
| 01:01.28 | fiberchunks | lol -- apparently your mailer knows better than you ;) |
| 01:02.54 | JBDiGriz | About 50% of all my email is auto filtered into the junk box. It misses a few that should go there as well. I think there's been 1 in the past week that shouldn't have been junked. |
| 01:04.58 | fiberchunks | 50%? man, I don't know if I'm lucky or what, but I've never gotten that volume of mail |
| 01:05.17 | StargateSG1 | so.. jb.. I should _not_ commit a fix, yes? |
| 01:05.52 | JBDiGriz | Please check out the project or merge before checking in. |
| 01:06.04 | fiberchunks | crap mail, that is |
| 01:06.36 | JBDiGriz | You turned off jumping on your server, I thought the tab key wasn't working for a second. |
| 01:07.09 | StargateSG1 | Pffsssshhh.. you fixed it :P |
| 01:08.57 | StargateSG1 | hrm.. What's the MQ flag? |
| 01:09.23 | fiberchunks | masquerade |
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| 01:10.29 | Michaelh | does anyone know of a program that can convert code, like c++, java etc.. to a neat colored html format? I've seen it before....... |
| 01:10.53 | bzgirl | Michaelh: theres vim2html |
| 01:11.28 | bzgirl | ~google for vim2html |
| 01:11.38 | StargateSG1 | and.. masquerade does what?? I don't think I've seen it on my field, yet it's listed |
| 01:12.41 | Michaelh | hmmm |
| 01:23.33 | JBDiGriz | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=472683&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 01:26.15 | JBDiGriz | 40% off kb toys or yahoo finance press releases. both auto junked, but I can forward them to you fiber. ;^) |
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| 01:36.11 | fiberchunks | StargateSG1: dunno -- ask herr chestal |
| 01:36.43 | JBDiGriz | check the url |
| 01:37.27 | fiberchunks | thanks for the offer, jb, but no thanks :) |
| 01:37.36 | fiberchunks | on the 40% off that is |
| 01:37.48 | fiberchunks | oh, didn't notice you had the tracker up there, my bad |
| 01:37.50 | StargateSG1 | eh, did I miss something? |
| 01:38.06 | fiberchunks | masquerade -- I'm a little slow tonite |
| 01:38.12 | StargateSG1 | ah, heh |
| 01:38.21 | JBDiGriz | always, but that's alright. I miss a bunch as well. |
| 01:38.30 | fiberchunks | phbbt ;) |
| 01:39.04 | StargateSG1 | i wonder why there are none on the map, and no error specifying |
| 01:39.13 | JBDiGriz | Kids kill brain cells. It doesn't matter if they're your own, just that you hang around them. |
| 01:39.19 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:39.40 | fiberchunks | I think his IQ is soon to pass mine, frankly (course, that's not hard to do) |
| 01:41.53 | Michaelh | has anyone thought of having a "test" release.. so that perhaps more people would play with the newer versions.....? |
| 01:42.04 | JBDiGriz | What os are you using? |
| 01:42.07 | fiberchunks | cvs? |
| 01:42.10 | Michaelh | people without compilers.. that is |
| 01:42.13 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:42.25 | Michaelh | people who live in fear of compilers... |
| 01:42.47 | fiberchunks | or, if you use 'that' os, their price |
| 01:43.00 | Michaelh | heh |
| 01:43.09 | Michaelh | who? Me ? |
| 01:43.11 | JBDiGriz | RTFT, or check out the topic for a pointer to "test" releases. ;^) |
| 01:43.37 | Michaelh | I'm not suggesting it for me personally |
| 01:43.37 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:43.54 | Michaelh | just that there's like this 1 year lag between releases |
| 01:43.59 | fiberchunks | topic? topic? we don't need no stinkin' topic! vaminos! |
| 01:44.01 | JBDiGriz | Actually, I was asking the girl who lives next door to you. She's pretty cute. ;^) |
| 01:44.15 | Michaelh | and if that was a bit sped up.. perhaps there'd be more players on the "test" servers |
| 01:45.13 | Michaelh | I know patl periodically puts stuff up |
| 01:45.41 | Bagheera | pat usually has a win compiled for various cvs versions....think he even built an autocompiler for it |
| 01:46.00 | Bagheera | it is in the topic as jb indicated |
| 01:46.40 | Michaelh | so it's in one of 4 potential links? |
| 01:46.42 | Michaelh | :) |
| 01:46.52 | Bagheera | russian roulette |
| 01:47.28 | Bagheera | hey all, have a good night...i have to water proof my basement.... |
| 01:47.35 | JBDiGriz | Developing for this game is russian roulette, never know when you're going to hang your system completely. |
| 01:47.38 | fiberchunks | have fun! ;) |
| 01:47.46 | JBDiGriz | g'nite bags, have a good time. |
| 01:48.04 | fiberchunks | StargateSG1: you preparing for the mighty wind that is headed your way? |
| 01:48.45 | JBDiGriz | Ms. Isabel is an overpowering guest. |
| 01:49.01 | fiberchunks | you on the left coast jb, or the right? |
| 01:49.21 | JBDiGriz | left coast, we just have more sunshine around here. |
| 01:49.48 | fiberchunks | looked like there was a little one off your way -- you all get hurricanes out there? |
| 01:50.41 | JBDiGriz | we had one heading up the sea of Cortez for a while at a whopping 4MPH. I'm not sure what happened to it. At that speed it might still be coming. |
| 01:51.23 | fiberchunks | ;p; |
| 01:51.26 | fiberchunks | lol rather |
| 01:53.25 | bzgirl | will >2&1 make cron stop sending me mail? |
| 01:53.32 | bzgirl | in my crontab |
| 01:54.00 | bzgirl | i have 10,650 emails from cron@asgard :( |
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| 02:08.04 | JBDiGriz | > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 02:08.17 | Quol | hey JB |
| 02:08.24 | JBDiGriz | hi q |
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| 02:08.44 | Quol | how's it going - what do you want to send to dev null |
| 02:08.45 | Quol | ? |
| 02:09.01 | JBDiGriz | bzg was asking about how to avoid mail from cron |
| 02:09.33 | Quol | ah |
| 02:09.55 | fiberchunks | isn't there a switch you can tack onto the end of a cron job to make it not send mail (i.e. something easier than > /dev/null blah blah? |
| 02:10.02 | fiberchunks | I thought there was ... |
| 02:10.56 | fiberchunks | that is cool |
| 02:11.35 | MrApathyCream | look at the videos? |
| 02:11.42 | JBDiGriz | cron just uses the shell to execute jobs. I haven't heard of a switch, but it's possible to make it smarter and put something else in the crontab. |
| 02:12.23 | fiberchunks | no, but that thing brings interesting possibilities to bz -- like grabbing an enemies tank and chucking it across a world ;) |
| 02:12.56 | JBDiGriz | for admins who want something more satisfying than /kick |
| 02:12.58 | bzgirl | or flipping the world over and storming off when you lose :) |
| 02:13.03 | fiberchunks | hehe |
| 02:13.08 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 02:13.12 | fiberchunks | 'imma take my world and go home!' |
| 02:13.27 | bzgirl | like fiberchunks does when he plays scrabble :) |
| 02:13.40 | fiberchunks | boo hoo, how'd you know |
| 02:13.45 | JBDiGriz | Have you been playing with fiber again? |
| 02:13.58 | fiberchunks | my clever ruse is unmasked -- curses! |
| 02:14.42 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: we must play yahoo pool one day |
| 02:14.55 | fiberchunks | we must play real pool one day :) |
| 02:15.00 | fiberchunks | I'll whoop on ya ;) |
| 02:15.14 | bzgirl | heh, dream on |
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| 02:16.17 | SGI | hello |
| 02:16.42 | JBDiGriz | Greetings and salutations. |
| 02:16.43 | bzgirl | hi |
| 02:16.45 | fiberchunks | welp, ladies / gents, I must be off, have to travel tomorrow -- namaste :) |
| 02:16.51 | Quol | is that heliodisplat stuss for real? |
| 02:16.52 | fiberchunks | and hi sgi |
| 02:16.53 | bzgirl | bye |
| 02:16.59 | JBDiGriz | have a safe trip. |
| 02:17.04 | SGI | have a nice trip |
| 02:17.12 | StargateSG1 | cheers! fiber |
| 02:17.15 | SGI | send me a postcard |
| 02:17.24 | fiberchunks | from work? I don't think you'd want one ;) |
| 02:17.37 | JBDiGriz | try the local beer, and let us know how it is. |
| 02:17.37 | StargateSG1 | how about a /godsmack command :) |
| 02:17.57 | StargateSG1 | yes.. bring back some to share :) |
| 02:18.02 | SGI | yes good idea a relation of a local beer |
| 02:18.35 | fiberchunks | but if you really want one : http://lmms.external.lmco.com/photos/military_space/milstar |
| 02:19.35 | SGI | is the EU vector |
| 02:20.02 | SGI | arianne |
| 02:20.10 | JBDiGriz | I tried the local bitter at the Tied House in Mountain View. Nice red color and a decent beer if you're in the bay area. |
| 02:20.30 | fiberchunks | sorry ../../milstar/milstar.html |
| 02:21.06 | SGI | southamerica |
| 02:26.34 | SGI | http://www.arianespace.com/site/launcher/launcher_sub_index.html |
| 02:57.55 | SGI | bye |
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| 03:20.38 | mondaypickle | anyone up for a scrim? 3v3 |
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| 03:21.10 | mondaypickle | omg kick that stone kid |
| 03:21.15 | gaymer_st0ne | mondaypickle: is lame |
| 03:21.26 | mondaypickle | gaymer_st0ne, is uber lame |
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| 07:00.21 | captain_proton | wasabi currently runs a sortof broken mythtv |
| 07:03.20 | captain_proton | we don't need capture anymore, so we'll probably be replacing that with a xine-lib+gstreamer+opengl+python system of our own soonish |
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| 09:08.58 | bomber | moin |
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| 11:06.32 | Chikorita | *yawn* |
| 11:07.14 | Chikorita | good mornin anybody |
| 11:07.18 | Chikorita | :) |
| 11:07.26 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 11:07.45 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 11:07.57 | Chikorita | ~weather khgr |
| 11:08.41 | Chikorita | cold an humid ...bleh |
| 11:08.43 | Chikorita | :P |
| 11:13.13 | larsl | ~stockholm |
| 12:24.13 | bomber | ~d |
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| 13:07.50 | gonkulator | ~denver |
| 13:08.57 | gonkulator | darn :) |
| 13:10.08 | dheckaman | ~literal stockholm |
| 13:10.09 | | stockholm is <reply> see weather essb |
| 13:10.34 | dheckaman | ~denver is <reply> see weather essb |
| 13:10.35 | | okay, dheckaman |
| 13:10.41 | dheckaman | ~denver |
| 13:10.54 | dheckaman | happy now? |
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| 15:34.12 | Nidhoggr | hrm. openssh exploit was finally leaked to the public. |
| 15:35.07 | Nidhoggr | well, the fact that it exists was leaked. |
| 15:35.14 | Nidhoggr | not the actual exploit. |
| 15:49.06 | bomber | ~d |
| 15:49.32 | patlabor221 | ahhh there, all the silly people should be taken care of this AM :) |
| 15:50.27 | patlabor221 | Nidhoggr did you see the message on the SF open discusion forum about secretplace ? |
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| 16:06.25 | patlabor221 | good day 'toshmasters |
| 16:07.06 | Nidhoggr | pat, no.. what was it regarding? |
| 16:07.30 | patlabor221 | <quote> |
| 16:07.30 | patlabor221 | Hello! I play on secretplace.us serwer and pseudo-admin WIZ kick me for ... /i dont know!!!!!!/ Why man like WIZ is admin????????? next i get prtscreen!!!! |
| 16:07.34 | patlabor221 | </quote> |
| 16:08.08 | patlabor221 | https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=2194406 |
| 16:08.12 | Nidhoggr | what an idiot. |
| 16:08.13 | patlabor221 | thats the link to it. |
| 16:13.52 | Nidhoggr | wiz is a darned good admin |
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| 16:21.04 | TyroneFHornigh | Perhaps we need something akin to a driver's license for operating a computer on the Internet. |
| 16:21.33 | TyroneFHornigh | You can get a learner's permit when you're 13, but you must operate under the supervision of an adult. |
| 16:23.12 | bomber | ~d |
| 16:23.26 | brlcad | So you think, I don't give permit's that easily :) |
| 16:23.50 | brlcad | Has nothing to do with age |
| 16:25.06 | patlabor221 | mental age |
| 16:27.22 | brlcad | Nid: I didn't know you were the secretplace admin, go fig |
| 16:28.34 | TyroneFHornigh | learner can be a little dense at times, but that will help keep him safe this weekend ;^) |
| 16:28.38 | Nidhoggr | why "go fig"? |
| 16:28.39 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:28.57 | brlcad | "go fig" why you hang out here a lot :) |
| 16:29.08 | Nidhoggr | www.dragon.org/mandrake/rack.jpg middle one is secretplace (logos.tiphareth.net) |
| 16:29.15 | Nidhoggr | actually, it's the top one. |
| 16:29.18 | Nidhoggr | middle one is dragon.org |
| 16:30.05 | brlcad | that forwards to a nice mysql error'd page ;) |
| 16:30.28 | Nidhoggr | mysql? grrrr. |
| 16:30.34 | patlabor221 | http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/thedesk/floor.png |
| 16:30.42 | patlabor221 | that's asgard |
| 16:30.43 | TyroneFHornigh | hmm? I looked at the picture |
| 16:30.50 | Nidhoggr | I got it fine. |
| 16:31.26 | brlcad | http://dragon.org -> http://sunwise.tiphareth.net/ -> mysql error |
| 16:31.35 | brlcad | Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /home/httpd/sunwise/class/database/mysql/db.php on line 115 |
| 16:31.50 | TyroneFHornigh | racks always look better than desksides. One of these days, I'll update my machines to a rack in the garage. |
| 16:32.26 | TyroneFHornigh | ragnaock? Is that supposed to be ragnarok? |
| 16:33.28 | brlcad | ~dict ragnarok |
| 16:33.42 | brlcad | myth? pfft. |
| 16:33.42 | TyroneFHornigh | Norse mythology |
| 16:34.19 | Nidhoggr | the server probably died.. but you need to type the whole URL, because the front page is a redir. :) |
| 16:34.36 | patlabor221 | yeah I mispelled it |
| 16:34.40 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 16:34.42 | patlabor221 | noone uses that machine anyway :) |
| 16:35.16 | Nidhoggr | I had to do a bunch of upgrades from rhn today, and mysql was one of them. |
| 16:35.20 | Nidhoggr | so it died. :) |
| 16:35.27 | TyroneFHornigh | I'm not sure I would name a machine after the battleground where everything dies, but maybe I'm too superstitious |
| 16:36.00 | brlcad | dragon.org is a nice name -> why forward to tipharablahblah? |
| 16:36.13 | Nidhoggr | it's a long story. |
| 16:36.18 | Nidhoggr | dragon.org is my personal domain |
| 16:36.29 | Nidhoggr | I used to have my portal site on www.dragon.org |
| 16:37.13 | brlcad | Dude replied to your reply |
| 16:37.17 | TyroneFHornigh | It's not uncommon. My personal domain and company domain share the same machine. |
| 16:37.24 | brlcad | Arras |
| 16:37.26 | Nidhoggr | since it was spiritually oriented site, when I started to get dozens and dozens of people signing in with nicknames like "fuzzydragon" "wizarddragon" and every permutation, it got annoying. |
| 16:38.06 | Nidhoggr | so I moved the portal site to something less D&D sounding to keep the riffraff from taking it over. |
| 16:38.07 | brlcad | so you moved it because users registered with funky names?? |
| 16:38.22 | Nidhoggr | it went a little deeper than that. |
| 16:38.31 | brlcad | i hope so :) |
| 16:38.34 | Nidhoggr | every 12 year old pagan wannabe on the planet started signing up. |
| 16:38.39 | Nidhoggr | not what I was looking for. |
| 16:39.07 | TyroneFHornigh | The Internet permits would have helped as well. ;^P |
| 16:39.13 | patlabor221 | are you insenuating that D&D players are "rif-raf" ? :) |
| 16:39.21 | Nidhoggr | I'm going to revamp the front page soon, anyway. |
| 16:39.28 | Nidhoggr | I've gamed for years. |
| 16:39.40 | Nidhoggr | which means I've got to know the community. |
| 16:39.46 | Nidhoggr | so I speak from experience. ;) |
| 16:39.52 | patlabor221 | yeah some of them are complete freaks |
| 16:39.55 | brlcad | You needed a big picture of a a bearded dragon or a box of dragon naturally speaking for sale.. |
| 16:40.13 | brlcad | That would'a shot down the dnd tone :) |
| 16:40.27 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:40.42 | Nidhoggr | actually, I have a lot of history with dragon mythology, etc. |
| 16:40.48 | Nidhoggr | which is why I registered the domain... |
| 16:40.54 | Nidhoggr | and my last name means "Man Dragon" |
| 16:41.33 | patlabor221 | ahh then you have a +1 level adjustment |
| 16:41.40 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:43.32 | brlcad | BZCode question: are we assuming that all compilers will support the inline directive? |
| 16:45.39 | Nidhoggr | he was swearing in english AND polish |
| 16:46.14 | brlcad | [insert favorite polish joke here] |
| 16:46.40 | TyroneFHornigh | I think pat has to answer that question, since we are currently using gcc for all other platforms. |
| 16:46.53 | patlabor221 | I have what? |
| 16:47.03 | patlabor221 | on VC supports inline |
| 16:47.12 | patlabor221 | oh ! on :) |
| 16:47.28 | Nidhoggr | he was calling people "faggot" in polish. |
| 16:47.28 | patlabor221 | sorry I was updating the loot list |
| 16:47.54 | brlcad | i know that vc, gcc, and others support it -- I know others do not (albeit older and obscure) -- is the assumption that it's supported acceptable? |
| 16:48.17 | patlabor221 | if they don't they can #define it in there configs |
| 16:49.03 | brlcad | that's why I ask -- that can cause a multiple symbol problem for the new date routing in the version header |
| 16:49.09 | TyroneFHornigh | I haven't heard of anyone using anything else. It seems like a config issue. |
| 16:49.15 | brlcad | s/ing/ine/ |
| 16:49.35 | TyroneFHornigh | brlcad uses vi ;^) |
| 16:50.04 | patlabor221 | it does seem like a common thing to support, I'd put it in, and post a message on the dev list saying that if your compiler don't support it, speak now and go fix it for there plat. |
| 16:50.25 | brlcad | I believe that's close to the same syntax in sed, perl, and emacs too :) |
| 16:51.04 | TyroneFHornigh | I don't think I've seen any syntax like that in emacs, but sed, perl, vi, and others all derive from ed. |
| 16:52.47 | brlcad | yea, M-x replace-regexp is much more common -- but I think there's a way to feed it the expression in a var (could be mistaken) |
| 16:53.13 | TyroneFHornigh | Of course there's the original get/real expression/print, often abbreviated to g/re/p. You might recognize it from some other obscure application. |
| 16:54.24 | brlcad | har har ;) |
| 16:54.34 | patlabor221 | never heard of it |
| 16:54.38 | brlcad | real?? regular |
| 16:55.00 | brlcad | or was it really real? |
| 16:55.04 | TyroneFHornigh | You're right, regular, not real |
| 16:55.14 | brlcad | ah |
| 16:55.18 | brlcad | close enough |
| 16:55.49 | TyroneFHornigh | Senior moments ;^) |
| 16:57.36 | brlcad | meeting time! |
| 17:21.25 | Nidhoggr | anyone know on RHN how to clear a package that is already installed that keeps erroring because it's already installed? |
| 17:22.32 | Bagheera | uninstall the package...then reinstall |
| 17:22.41 | Nidhoggr | not so easy. |
| 17:22.45 | Nidhoggr | the package is up2date |
| 17:23.06 | Bagheera | oh...yeah....i just did that update........ |
| 17:23.30 | Bagheera | i went to the website......they have the switches there.........let me see if i can did them out |
| 17:23.34 | Nidhoggr | I couldn't do the update, because up2date was out of date, then I installed new up2date, and now that package stays and errors. |
| 17:23.54 | Bagheera | yep thats what i hit to....hold on |
| 17:24.33 | Nidhoggr | I'm hoping redhat is quick on releasing the openssh patch. |
| 17:25.09 | Bagheera | have you tried this rpm -Fvh |
| 17:25.19 | Bagheera | https://rhn.redhat.com/help/latest-up2date.pxt |
| 17:25.36 | Nidhoggr | I don't think you are grasping my issue. |
| 17:25.43 | Nidhoggr | the newest is installed and working. |
| 17:25.49 | Nidhoggr | but |
| 17:26.14 | Bagheera | but...its not getting recognized....???.....hmmmm |
| 17:26.21 | Nidhoggr | when I went to rhn and applied all the errata to dragon.org, one package errored out, because I just installed it. |
| 17:26.43 | Nidhoggr | so it's erroring because it's already installed, which should make it just dissapear. |
| 17:26.54 | Nidhoggr | disappear even |
| 17:27.04 | Bagheera | i issue i had was that up2date had the same version number.....but the certificates differ between the two |
| 17:27.17 | Nidhoggr | yeah... I got past that. |
| 17:27.21 | Bagheera | ok |
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| 17:27.51 | Nidhoggr | now it's just that dragon.org is reporting being out of date and needing the up2date installed, when it's already done and working fine. |
| 17:28.30 | Bagheera | is it just up2date or up2date and up2date-gnome |
| 17:28.39 | Nidhoggr | just up2date |
| 17:29.13 | Bagheera | 7.3 or 8.0 |
| 17:29.19 | Nidhoggr | 7.3 |
| 17:30.12 | Bagheera | and you used up2date to download the up2date rpm, or you downloaded that separately...??? |
| 17:30.30 | Nidhoggr | downloaded it with ftp from their help page link. |
| 17:30.56 | Nidhoggr | hrm.. can you make rhn rescan your machine for package versions? |
| 17:31.01 | Bagheera | ok.......my knowledge is shot |
| 17:31.28 | Bagheera | i installed on 8.0 and 7.3, downloaded via http, from the site above, used those commands and had no issues |
| 17:31.52 | Bagheera | you will have to go to a higher power |
| 17:32.33 | Bagheera | sry |
| 17:32.40 | Nidhoggr | :) thanks for trying. |
| 17:33.26 | Bagheera | its rare i even have an inkling whats going on..........i enjoy the chance....hahaha |
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| 17:38.57 | Bagheera | i assume you have up2date-nox -p just to see if redhat is the one screwed up....??? |
| 17:41.55 | Nidhoggr | actually, I'm using rhn_check |
| 17:42.16 | tea|tree_ | uh |
| 17:42.17 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 17:42.18 | Nidhoggr | and it's sending "package installed successsfully" to the server. |
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| 18:03.53 | Nidhoggr | I sent an email to redhat support. hopefully they'll be able to figure it out. |
| 18:06.24 | Bagheera | i still find it odd that you cant "force" the installation....and have it update properly.......must be on their end........but I have not found this problem before. |
| 18:06.44 | Bagheera | stick a post/comment out there with an answer if you dont mind.......i am now curious |
| 18:10.03 | patlabor221 | hmm dosn't look like your "arras" fellow is responding :) |
| 18:10.32 | Nidhoggr | it's on their end, because my machine only reports that it installed fine. |
| 18:10.45 | Nidhoggr | if he responds, I'll post logs. :) |
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| 18:11.32 | patlabor221 | ohh I'm betting his mental responce is "F__K" |
| 18:12.26 | Nidhoggr | something that annoyed me last night was a player who swears and shows as ******* starts complaining that he might have just typed the *******, and how'd we know he actually swore. |
| 18:12.39 | Nidhoggr | so I looked at the logs. |
| 18:12.49 | bryjen | "Y_U" or "_FF |
| 18:13.02 | Nidhoggr | 3 admins on at the same time, jumping down his throat for swearing. :) |
| 18:13.11 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 18:13.23 | patlabor221 | humans are stupid |
| 18:13.37 | Nidhoggr | sometimes regular players jump on the bandwagon, because they know our rules. |
| 18:14.22 | patlabor221 | just don't let derv on, or he will go all holy avenger on the offender |
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| 18:15.18 | Nidhoggr | will the multilingual filter work for 1.7 servers? |
| 18:15.26 | brlcad | yes and no |
| 18:15.44 | brlcad | you'll have to strip out all of the comment lines |
| 18:15.59 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 18:16.17 | brlcad | and you won't get any of the automatic suffixing |
| 18:16.19 | Nidhoggr | grep -v ^# filename > badword.list :) |
| 18:16.21 | patlabor221 | you haven't hooked up client side filtering have you? |
| 18:17.21 | brlcad | but it's still a about 1500 words for "free" |
| 18:17.28 | brlcad | patlabor221: jeesh.. not yet ;) |
| 18:17.34 | Nidhoggr | that helps, anyway. |
| 18:17.55 | patlabor221 | I dind't think so, I'm just adding it to the todo that's all, just didn't want to add it if you had done it. |
| 18:18.20 | patlabor221 | Didn't we find that shortening laser was really hard? |
| 18:19.11 | bryjen | woah |
| 18:21.21 | bryjen | eep |
| 18:21.33 | patlabor221 | I just updated the todo with what we had talked about for the filter brlcad so we don't forget :) |
| 18:23.22 | Nidhoggr | say NO to CRACK! |
| 18:24.29 | patlabor221 | well it depends some cracks are nice to look at |
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| 18:25.17 | brlcad | the 1.7 filter is easily bypassible just by adding an extra letter or two |
| 18:25.44 | patlabor221 | pig latin cursing! :) |
| 18:25.53 | patlabor221 | uckfay! |
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| 18:26.48 | brlcad | oooh.. that's a good one to add pat :) |
| 18:27.04 | brlcad | but it's more humorous than offensive :) |
| 18:27.24 | brlcad | itshay! |
| 18:27.58 | patlabor221 | ~dict hits |
| 18:28.40 | Chikorita | r wee playin word scramble? |
| 18:28.41 | patlabor221 | so I can call people eamkillingtay ucktardsfays ? |
| 18:28.49 | Chikorita | lol |
| 18:29.18 | Chikorita | heh bags |
| 18:29.26 | patlabor221 | please have them file a complaint |
| 18:29.37 | patlabor221 | and a word list |
| 18:29.43 | brlcad | that play bzflag? wow, cool :) |
| 18:29.51 | patlabor221 | and a translation file :) |
| 18:29.58 | brlcad | and can type? :) |
| 18:30.02 | Bagheera | the keyboards get a little muddy..... |
| 18:30.06 | patlabor221 | they use the mouse |
| 18:30.39 | brlcad | that explains a lot about sussudio's commentary.. |
| 18:31.10 | Chikorita | sussudio was on ducati earlier , being his usual self again :/ |
| 18:32.07 | Chikorita | unda da name "The Greatest Booger of all BZ" |
| 18:32.58 | brlcad | I don't know if he can claim "greatest" of anything, but it is funny |
| 18:33.28 | Chikorita | i dunt get him , he reports cheaterz , yet he likes 2 harrass peeple in PM |
| 18:33.39 | patlabor221 | aww brlcad, I didn't log on at all last night, just to give you a chance to catch up in lines, and look now your almost 1000 lines behind me. |
| 18:33.57 | brlcad | ha ha |
| 18:34.05 | Chikorita | i tink he iz a great booger ...i agree wif him on dat |
| 18:34.12 | Chikorita | at least he knows himself |
| 18:34.15 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 18:34.49 | brlcad | I've been letting my lead slip, we can't both look like we talk too much in here :) |
| 18:35.15 | patlabor221 | this is true |
| 18:35.31 | patlabor221 | unless we stage a coup then we can |
| 18:35.36 | Chikorita | lol u guyz r 2 funny |
| 18:35.44 | Chikorita | competing in irc stats |
| 18:35.46 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 18:36.09 | patlabor221 | gotta have something :) |
| 18:36.11 | Chikorita | imma log on in da wee hours of da nite so i can stay numba 1 in da category :) |
| 18:36.22 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 18:36.27 | brlcad | yep, chika - you have that time frame locked down tight :) |
| 18:36.32 | patlabor221 | yeah you totaly ownzor 2AM :) |
| 18:36.44 | Chikorita | i should try 2 smilies more 2 :) |
| 18:36.50 | Chikorita | lol pat :) |
| 18:36.52 | patlabor221 | cus we are all ASLEEP! |
| 18:37.02 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 18:37.10 | Bagheera | irc stats......oy........ |
| 18:37.12 | patlabor221 | tho last night I was reading about how the moon is hollow at that time. |
| 18:37.23 | brlcad | I'm still king of getting kick ;) |
| 18:37.25 | Chikorita | sumtime i jus log in 2 c who iz on cuz i cant sleep :( |
| 18:37.31 | *** kick/#bzflag [brlcad!~jeffm@208.48.199.214] by patlabor221 (patlabor221) |
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| 18:37.39 | Chikorita | nooo |
| 18:37.40 | brlcad | hehe |
| 18:37.41 | patlabor221 | :P |
| 18:37.43 | Chikorita | wb L |
| 18:37.50 | Bagheera | glass of wine after dinner.....solves that |
| 18:37.52 | TyroneFHornigh | I've given up on the stats. There's no way I can keep up with you http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ |
| 18:37.55 | patlabor221 | bit slow on the rejoin? difrent client? |
| 18:38.08 | patlabor221 | http://learner.youaremyfriend.com |
| 18:38.09 | Chikorita | nhmm wine ..maybee |
| 18:38.13 | Chikorita | lol pat |
| 18:38.14 | patlabor221 | http://learner.youaremyfriend.com http://learner.youaremyfriend.com |
| 18:38.19 | brlcad | different client |
| 18:38.26 | brlcad | this was doesn't have/allow auto-rejoin |
| 18:38.26 | Chikorita | i luv those graphics |
| 18:38.35 | TyroneFHornigh | learner, you really need to use a different cologne, you http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ |
| 18:38.38 | patlabor221 | wow she set it to store 256 URLS |
| 18:38.40 | patlabor221 | that's a lot |
| 18:38.49 | Chikorita | brb |
| 18:38.55 | Bagheera | back to the bastard ale again.... |
| 18:38.56 | TyroneFHornigh | I think it's at 300 right now. |
| 18:38.57 | patlabor221 | don't bag on him, http://learner.youaremyfriend.com |
| 18:39.11 | TyroneFHornigh | Hey don't be an http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ |
| 18:39.30 | patlabor221 | I just love looking at http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/irc.html |
| 18:39.44 | patlabor221 | ohh it's a new invisibles week isn't it? |
| 18:39.47 | TyroneFHornigh | At least she's not an http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ |
| 18:40.10 | TyroneFHornigh | I managed to get 4 out of 14 when I glanced at the invisibles |
| 18:40.45 | patlabor221 | 14 this week, wow |
| 18:41.52 | Chikorita | yup |
| 18:41.57 | Chikorita | i got 6 of dem |
| 18:42.04 | Bagheera | gosh, i didnt know i used "there" a lot |
| 18:42.23 | brlcad | I feel so used |
| 18:42.32 | Bagheera | ahhh....its just the word |
| 18:42.58 | patlabor221 | I've got 4 as well |
| 18:43.06 | patlabor221 | 6 12 13 14 |
| 18:43.18 | TyroneFHornigh | You get it twice since it's a nick as well as a site. |
| 18:44.39 | Bagheera | wake me when we get to invisibles....... |
| 18:45.03 | TyroneFHornigh | 6 7 12 14 |
| 18:45.23 | TyroneFHornigh | 2 looks very familiar |
| 18:45.48 | Chikorita | i got numba 7 , 10, 12 , 13 |
| 18:45.58 | Chikorita | an 14 |
| 18:45.59 | Chikorita | :) |
| 18:46.12 | Chikorita | wanna kno? |
| 18:47.00 | Chikorita | o an numba 8 |
| 18:47.01 | TyroneFHornigh | Pat will get 7 fairly quickly. He just needs an obnoxious hint. |
| 18:47.15 | Nidhoggr | grrr. having same problem with a RH 8 system. |
| 18:49.08 | patlabor221 | hint me |
| 18:49.34 | TyroneFHornigh | I just got #4 as well. |
| 18:49.46 | TyroneFHornigh | pat, that was a hint. ;^) |
| 18:49.57 | Nidhoggr | ~invisibles |
| 18:49.58 | | invisibles is, like, at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
| 18:51.05 | Chikorita | yea 2 look kinda familiar.. |
| 18:51.28 | Chikorita | o i kno numba 2! |
| 18:51.33 | Chikorita | heh |
| 18:51.34 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 18:51.50 | TyroneFHornigh | Do you have a hint for 2? |
| 18:52.09 | Chikorita | mm ya |
| 18:52.58 | Chikorita | actually i tink da title iz sumting close 2 ur team name |
| 18:53.42 | Bagheera | https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2003-267.html |
| 18:54.53 | Chikorita | hey |
| 18:55.11 | Chikorita | Dyada wiped sumtin on mee.. |
| 18:55.20 | Chikorita | hmmpf |
| 18:56.09 | TyroneFHornigh | It looks like he's trying to help you out. ;^) |
| 18:57.24 | brlcad | only got 7 11 12 14 |
| 18:57.24 | Chikorita | aww Dyada iz nice now :) |
| 18:58.45 | Chikorita | hey letz share |
| 18:58.48 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 18:59.01 | Chikorita | or trade numbas |
| 18:59.34 | TyroneFHornigh | larsl: what's a hint for 11? |
| 18:59.36 | Chikorita | i'll give u numba 10 if u give mee 11 |
| 19:00.04 | TyroneFHornigh | stinkin' client doesn't know how to complete, learner, not larsl ;^) |
| 19:00.14 | brlcad | Hehe, sure chika.. here's a hint |
| 19:00.18 | Chikorita | k |
| 19:00.37 | Chikorita | i'll hint u 2 |
| 19:00.40 | Chikorita | :) |
| 19:01.21 | TyroneFHornigh | Careful of chika's hints. it helps if you're sure of the answer before giving the hint. ;^) |
| 19:02.29 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 19:02.47 | Bagheera | Ferris.... |
| 19:02.50 | brlcad | Neer bow bouw chikichika |
| 19:02.59 | Chikorita | ooH i kno! |
| 19:03.13 | Chikorita | Mr. Mom? |
| 19:03.20 | Chikorita | lol |
| 19:03.21 | brlcad | nope :) |
| 19:03.31 | Chikorita | aw |
| 19:03.40 | Chikorita | Ferris Buelers day off? |
| 19:03.50 | Bagheera | 11 isnt mr mom.....gosh.... |
| 19:03.55 | brlcad | the main actor, as funny as he was, is sadly no longer living |
| 19:04.10 | Chikorita | no wee r workin on numba 10 Bags |
| 19:04.16 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 19:04.18 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 19:04.23 | Chikorita | *thinking* |
| 19:04.30 | Bagheera | all the same to me today |
| 19:04.32 | brlcad | my hints are for 11, btw :) |
| 19:04.47 | Chikorita | o i mean 11 |
| 19:04.49 | Chikorita | :P |
| 19:04.50 | Chikorita | ya |
| 19:05.06 | Chikorita | i have no idea |
| 19:05.08 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 19:05.20 | Chikorita | ok wel heres mah hint.. |
| 19:05.25 | Chikorita | ready? |
| 19:05.34 | brlcad | Chanice had nicknames for her um.. the left was micky and the right was minnie :) |
| 19:06.06 | brlcad | Tia was hot |
| 19:06.07 | Bagheera | animal house again...... |
| 19:06.19 | Bagheera | i am completely lost |
| 19:06.19 | Chikorita | stil clueless |
| 19:06.23 | Chikorita | mee2 lol |
| 19:06.35 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 19:06.36 | brlcad | well, she might not have been "hot" to you chika :) |
| 19:06.49 | Chikorita | o greg iz on |
| 19:06.53 | Bagheera | stripes |
| 19:06.58 | brlcad | niet |
| 19:07.07 | Chikorita | a line from da movie numba 10: "what do u mean funny? im funny?! u mean like haha funny or clown funny?! i make u laugh?!" |
| 19:07.17 | brlcad | big funny actor is main character of 11 |
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| 19:07.44 | Chikorita | hi carny |
| 19:07.48 | Bagheera | is that the one with the uncle.....uncle buck |
| 19:07.49 | Carnage | hI :) |
| 19:08.04 | Bagheera | man, i am just not there |
| 19:08.08 | *** join/#bzflag jolly (~bzjolly81@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 19:08.15 | Chikorita | hi Jolly :) |
| 19:08.16 | brlcad | Ah, i got 10, thx :) |
| 19:08.17 | Carnage | HEY jOLLY :) |
| 19:08.29 | brlcad | jolly has a fan club :) |
| 19:08.30 | Chikorita | brlcad: learner :) |
| 19:08.31 | jolly | hello :) |
| 19:08.49 | jolly | :) |
| 19:08.56 | brlcad | Bags: :) |
| 19:09.05 | Chikorita | dang jus tell us 11 LoL |
| 19:09.15 | brlcad | wow, 8 smilies in a row when jolly entered :) |
| 19:09.22 | Chikorita | lol |
| 19:09.24 | jolly | heh |
| 19:09.25 | Carnage | weres chestal when u need em :( |
| 19:09.35 | jolly | wow, this place is finally awake! |
| 19:09.40 | jolly | its nice for a change, heh |
| 19:09.49 | Chikorita | im tryin 4 da most happyness title in irc stats :) |
| 19:09.58 | Carnage | greg is on chiki |
| 19:10.06 | Chikorita | o ii kno thnx |
| 19:10.11 | Chikorita | brb |
| 19:10.24 | Bagheera | :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) beat that eh....... |
| 19:10.41 | Chikorita | lol |
| 19:11.22 | Bagheera | ok......back to number 11......WHAT IS IT |
| 19:11.44 | brlcad | hehe, you already got it silly |
| 19:12.00 | Bagheera | really.......ok...... |
| 19:12.07 | Bagheera | i guess |
| 19:12.11 | Bagheera | i need a beer |
| 19:12.26 | brlcad | 15:07 < Bagheera> is that the one with .... |
| 19:12.36 | brlcad | :) |
| 19:12.44 | brlcad | I'll join you |
| 19:12.51 | TyroneFHornigh | Try a http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ ;^) |
| 19:14.10 | brlcad | I wish I could try an http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ were is not for this conservative state's laws |
| 19:14.10 | jolly | heh |
| 19:15.18 | brlcad | I don't understand why they won't deliver to my doorstep :( |
| 19:15.54 | Bagheera | they will deliver ginger beer to your doorstep |
| 19:16.02 | brlcad | bah! |
| 19:16.06 | Bagheera | gives you about as good a headache |
| 19:16.20 | brlcad | all the pain, none of the fun, eh? |
| 19:16.33 | bryjen | who is ginger, and why is she on brlcad's doorstep? |
| 19:16.39 | Bagheera | well, the Blenheim stuff will tickle your nostrils |
| 19:16.51 | brlcad | ~dict dorr |
| 19:16.58 | brlcad | whew! |
| 19:17.43 | Bagheera | ~blenheim |
| 19:17.47 | TyroneFHornigh | brlcad wears some cologne, and seems to find a number of people hanging around him. ;^) |
| 19:18.01 | Bagheera | ~dict blenheim |
| 19:18.22 | TyroneFHornigh | I've made my own ginger beer. It's pretty easy, and the kids can drink it. |
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| 19:19.01 | brlcad | Tyrone: hehe |
| 19:19.25 | Bagheera | ~dict War of the Spanish Succession |
| 19:19.41 | TyroneFHornigh | I've also made my own bitter. It isn't as easy, and the kids get annoyed with me because they can't drink it :^) |
| 19:20.13 | bryjen | "installed ... on the throne" ... hmmm |
| 19:20.27 | Bagheera | must be a european thing |
| 19:20.42 | TyroneFHornigh | We don't get a lot of kings on this side of the pond. |
| 19:21.26 | Bagheera | way down south...... |
| 19:21.44 | TyroneFHornigh | Time to check stats to make sure that http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ is on top again. :^) |
| 19:22.42 | brlcad | Oh whadayaknow .. http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ is on the top :) |
| 19:23.05 | TyroneFHornigh | And deservedly so. :^) |
| 19:23.51 | TyroneFHornigh | Did anyone get #2 on the invisibles? |
| 19:24.45 | bryjen | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/index.html not url encoded, but bastardly none the less |
| 19:25.48 | bryjen | ~invisibles |
| 19:25.48 | | hmm... invisibles is at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
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| 19:44.26 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
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| 19:50.59 | Bagheera | does anybody list all these short cuts anywhere? |
| 19:52.51 | brlcad | ~quol |
| 19:53.13 | brlcad | Of course not, they're short cuts for those of us with an addiction :) |
| 19:53.23 | brlcad | Dont' get sucked in, man ;) |
| 19:53.29 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot has a database, which if you read through all the docs you might be able to get them. |
| 19:53.30 | | You are moron #1, TyroneFHornigh |
| 19:53.37 | brlcad | lol |
| 19:53.49 | TyroneFHornigh | yes, yes, I wrote a long line beginning with ibot. |
| 19:53.55 | Bagheera | ouch....touchy is ibot |
| 19:53.59 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot: shut up |
| 19:53.59 | | TyroneFHornigh: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 19:54.31 | TyroneFHornigh | If you're like that ibot, I'll make you quit again. |
| 19:54.41 | brlcad | I prefer to read it as a random unprovoked opinion of Tyrone :) |
| 19:55.07 | TyroneFHornigh | heh heh wanna walnetto? |
| 19:55.16 | brlcad | ibot: eat the Keyboard-Chair Interface |
| 19:55.17 | | ACTION eats the Keyboard-Chair Interface and falls over dead |
| 19:55.41 | Bagheera | :) I guess i figured there would be a ~shortcutlist or something.....oh well :) |
| 19:55.52 | TyroneFHornigh | she's just playing possum. a few more commands and she'll die ;^) |
| 19:55.58 | brlcad | ibot: help bagheera |
| 19:56.14 | Bagheera | help |
| 19:56.14 | brlcad | bah! private response |
| 19:56.28 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot: tell bagheera help |
| 19:56.43 | brlcad | ibot: sup G? |
| 19:56.44 | | nuthin, yous? |
| 19:57.00 | brlcad | thought we lost you there for a second |
| 19:57.34 | brlcad | ~lart Bagheera |
| 19:57.41 | brlcad | :) |
| 19:58.19 | brlcad | I think bzgirl needs to add ibot as a contributer to her stats page :) |
| 19:59.54 | Bagheera | ~karma for Bagheera |
| 19:59.54 | | for bagheera has neutral karma |
| 20:00.08 | Bagheera | ~karma Bagheera |
| 20:00.08 | | bagheera has neutral karma |
| 20:00.36 | TyroneFHornigh | ~nickometer Bagheera |
| 20:00.36 | | 'Bagheera' is 0.000% lame, tyronefhornigh |
| 20:01.00 | TyroneFHornigh | she likes you baggy ;^) |
| 20:01.30 | Bagheera | the website address in the help page is a little......um.......adult |
| 20:02.52 | Bagheera | ~uptime |
| 20:03.27 | purple_cow | fish OD? |
| 20:03.29 | Bagheera | ~karma patlabor221 |
| 20:03.29 | | patlabor221 has neutral karma |
| 20:03.37 | patlabor221 | FISH! |
| 20:03.43 | Bagheera | ibot says you will be fine |
| 20:03.43 | | Bagheera: bugger all, i dunno |
| 20:04.29 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot eat FISH |
| 20:04.30 | | ACTION eats FISH and falls over dead |
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| 20:05.09 | patlabor221 | so Nidhoggr you gonna post logs? |
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| 20:12.46 | patlabor221 | looks like it did |
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| 20:14.08 | purple_cow | dheckaman: thats nice |
| 20:15.10 | brlcad | Mmm. beef .. it's what's for dinner! |
| 20:15.22 | dheckaman | does it make purple meat? |
| 20:15.42 | brlcad | Only after a few beers |
| 20:15.50 | dheckaman | ah |
| 20:16.32 | brlcad | "No such nick.." wha? |
| 20:17.31 | patlabor221 | not here, to the SF thing |
| 20:17.35 | patlabor221 | tho it double posted |
| 20:17.56 | patlabor221 | SF = SLOW |
| 20:19.07 | patlabor221 | damn I should have used the word "drivel" |
| 20:19.13 | brlcad | ah, yeah, forgot that |
| 20:20.30 | TyroneFHornigh | There's a mailing list which will get quite a few unsubscribes today. |
| 20:20.57 | patlabor221 | hence the reasoning for my last comment |
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| 20:31.58 | sn0w_m0nkey | mornin |
| 20:35.01 | brlcad | mornin |
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| 20:38.48 | patlabor221 | SF geeked and double posted |
| 20:38.59 | patlabor221 | I got it twice too |
| 20:39.17 | patlabor221 | I went and removed the dupe from the archive |
| 20:40.48 | Carnage | grr |
| 20:40.54 | TyroneFHornigh | You get it twice because pat really likes you and considers you his friend ;^) |
| 20:41.24 | patlabor221 | ohh no that was before noon |
| 20:41.28 | patlabor221 | I hate that guy now :) |
| 20:41.42 | TyroneFHornigh | What an http://www.arrogantbastard.com/ ;^) |
| 20:41.43 | brlcad | yea, i hate him too |
| 20:41.44 | patlabor221 | Carnage: grr? |
| 20:42.13 | patlabor221 | brlcad: so how's the fam? |
| 20:42.15 | patlabor221 | :) |
| 20:42.25 | Carnage | i wanted a match and tlz, and bzr left :( |
| 20:42.43 | patlabor221 | ahhh, justified grr then |
| 20:42.43 | brlcad | damn those bzr's -- never around when you need them |
| 20:43.36 | Carnage | well u may be captain after the match i was serious about the bet |
| 20:44.34 | brlcad | I don't think that bet is acceptable |
| 20:44.47 | Carnage | it is chiki agreed to it |
| 20:44.58 | TyroneFHornigh | Quick Question: bz is still just a game, right? We haven't had anyone killed over it yet? |
| 20:45.19 | brlcad | what with "lol, sure" -- don't think so ;) |
| 20:46.01 | patlabor221 | I still say we should have a confernice in Vegas |
| 20:46.18 | brlcad | not "yet" :) |
| 20:46.39 | TyroneFHornigh | Let me know when, I'll drive out from socal and give anyone a ride who needs it. |
| 20:46.55 | brlcad | Tyrone, I could use a ride to vegas.. |
| 20:47.31 | brlcad | hehe |
| 20:47.33 | TyroneFHornigh | sure, I'll pick you up at Lindbergh field ;^) |
| 20:49.06 | brlcad | Carny, did you guys match? |
| 20:49.23 | brlcad | there was a point? |
| 20:49.43 | TyroneFHornigh | Straight through to the pointed forest.... |
| 20:49.59 | Carnage | not yet we just beat tlz in a fun 3 vs 3 |
| 20:50.15 | Carnage | i think it was riged |
| 20:50.21 | patlabor221 | it's only 4ish hours to vegas from here. |
| 20:51.10 | brlcad | it's only 34ish hours to vegas from here. |
| 20:51.34 | patlabor221 | well you should fly |
| 20:51.58 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 20:52.15 | patlabor221 | tho I don't think 20 people would make a good confrince |
| 20:52.26 | TyroneFHornigh | That's not the only exercise in futility right now. |
| 20:52.36 | patlabor221 | unless sussudio shows up and starts "making people bleed" |
| 20:52.38 | TyroneFHornigh | 20 people makes a good party. |
| 20:52.48 | patlabor221 | this is true |
| 20:52.54 | brlcad | yes, indeed |
| 20:53.15 | TyroneFHornigh | I think "learner's permits" should be issued before attending ;^) |
| 20:53.25 | dheckaman | learner needs a permit? |
| 20:53.31 | brlcad | hehe |
| 20:53.39 | TyroneFHornigh | He gets to issue them. |
| 20:53.43 | brlcad | yea, you can't go unless I permit it :) |
| 20:53.43 | dheckaman | ah |
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| 20:54.03 | brlcad | Sorry, carnage -- i'm still at work |
| 20:54.08 | Carnage | chiki match? |
| 20:54.10 | patlabor221 | we can get a spongebob pinata |
| 20:54.15 | brlcad | lol |
| 20:54.17 | dheckaman | LOL |
| 20:54.26 | Carnage | we need to settle the bet |
| 20:54.27 | patlabor221 | and fill it with ram |
| 20:54.36 | dheckaman | simm ram |
| 20:54.47 | TyroneFHornigh | I have a few old 1MB sticks to contribute |
| 20:55.53 | brlcad | We could get a little fleet of those remote controlled desktop tanks and set up a mock ducati :) |
| 20:56.02 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 20:56.07 | patlabor221 | that would be cool |
| 20:56.12 | TyroneFHornigh | That would be fun to do on a web site. |
| 20:56.17 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:56.19 | patlabor221 | with cams on them |
| 20:56.20 | brlcad | indeed |
| 20:56.33 | patlabor221 | only thing I cant figure out would be how to power them |
| 20:56.41 | patlabor221 | could do transmisive power |
| 20:57.10 | TyroneFHornigh | If we could put them on a sheet which provides power through the treads, we wouldn't have to worry about batteries. |
| 20:57.24 | dheckaman | hm |
| 20:57.35 | dheckaman | how about like trollys... |
| 20:57.40 | patlabor221 | how would you keep it from shorting? |
| 20:57.46 | patlabor221 | with wires? |
| 20:57.49 | patlabor221 | that would be no fun |
| 20:58.02 | Chikorita | havent u seen those micro mini rc cars? |
| 20:58.05 | dheckaman | a thing going up for positive, and a dragger on the bottom for ground :) |
| 20:58.06 | Chikorita | dey r so neet |
| 20:58.08 | brlcad | have you seen the desktop tanks, pat? |
| 20:58.21 | Chikorita | u recharge dem no batteries |
| 20:58.56 | patlabor221 | yes I have |
| 20:59.08 | TyroneFHornigh | I haven't seen them, how are they usually powered? |
| 20:59.13 | patlabor221 | bats |
| 20:59.25 | patlabor221 | small flying mice |
| 20:59.47 | TyroneFHornigh | I know how they make them jump ;^) |
| 20:59.59 | patlabor221 | strong bats |
| 21:00.22 | patlabor221 | could make them jump with a split tread design |
| 21:00.43 | TyroneFHornigh | a little electricity to the bat, and it will jump |
| 21:01.00 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:01.15 | brlcad | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5776/ |
| 21:01.17 | patlabor221 | laser is fun on them too |
| 21:01.59 | Chikorita | wow neet |
| 21:02.02 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 21:02.38 | Chikorita | i wonder how fast dey go |
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| 21:03.14 | Chikorita | an if dey come in green or red colors ;) |
| 21:03.29 | brlcad | and one could slap a video cam on them and feed it as input into bzflag :) |
| 21:03.32 | brlcad | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/59eb/ |
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| 21:04.04 | patlabor221 | http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?KNMDC104S |
| 21:04.08 | Chikorita | lol neet |
| 21:04.17 | Chikorita | wow spensive $$ |
| 21:04.32 | brlcad | it's an ittybitty camera :) |
| 21:04.55 | Chikorita | omg dat iz so cute |
| 21:04.57 | Chikorita | lol |
| 21:05.23 | brlcad | I need the dual display version of this, with a more comfortable chair: http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5b34/ |
| 21:06.12 | Chikorita | lol |
| 21:06.39 | Chikorita | "u better put a mini-fridge or microwave nearby because you dont want to get up" |
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| 21:10.45 | Chikorita | seein Bags now alwayz reminds mee 2 do identify register |
| 21:11.21 | Bagheera | oy.....my rep is going down quickly |
| 21:11.53 | Chikorita | lol no itz ok bags |
| 21:12.18 | Chikorita | u r stil nOObie 2nd class ;) |
| 21:12.44 | Chikorita | <<<nOObie 3rd class |
| 21:12.47 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 21:13.03 | creeperz | What's that make me? |
| 21:13.15 | Chikorita | swabbie |
| 21:13.20 | Chikorita | lol |
| 21:13.21 | Chikorita | j/k |
| 21:13.26 | creeperz | Eww |
| 21:13.28 | creeperz | :- |
| 21:13.30 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:14.25 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 21:14.52 | brlcad | hrm.. NickServ isn't responding |
| 21:14.55 | brlcad | are we split? |
| 21:15.22 | patlabor221 | we did split |
| 21:15.25 | patlabor221 | chanserv is down too |
| 21:15.39 | brlcad | grumble grumble okay |
| 21:15.49 | patlabor221 | what did you need it for? |
| 21:16.18 | TyroneFHornigh | He's been himself almost all day, he wants to register another nick ;^) |
| 21:16.58 | creeperz | I'd need this http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5d57/ to go with that chair |
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| 21:44.21 | patlabor221 | how do I run a script "thru my sql database" ? |
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| 21:48.03 | larsl | An SQL script? |
| 21:48.34 | TyroneFHornigh | It's like running a stake through it's heart. Just aim carefully and shove hard. |
| 21:48.50 | patlabor221 | yeah it's a .sql |
| 21:48.55 | patlabor221 | that suposed to fill out a dabase |
| 21:49.31 | larsl | You can probably just pipe it through the client program, or something. |
| 21:49.43 | Tupone | do you want to run during select (by trigger) or by hand |
| 21:50.03 | patlabor221 | I just want to execute it's commands in a specific database |
| 21:50.32 | Tupone | by hand is ... mysql database < script --- database is the name of yor database |
| 21:51.04 | patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 21:51.05 | patlabor221 | thanks |
| 21:51.11 | patlabor221 | I thought it was something like that |
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| 21:54.36 | bzgirl | dheckaman: you there? |
| 21:57.27 | Nidhoggr | ~invisibles |
| 21:57.28 | | rumour has it, invisibles is at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
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| 21:59.08 | Spiff | W00T Nidhoggr. Hehehe. |
| 21:59.39 | Nidhoggr | it's annoying watching the logs and having the same useless player quit and rejoin about 60 times in a few minutes. |
| 22:00.29 | Spiff | Pfffff. I'll bet. :( |
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| 22:00.51 | Spiff | Hey guys.... and idea why I get no respons from the NickServ? |
| 22:00.56 | Spiff | response^ |
| 22:00.59 | larsl | Spiff: It netsplat. |
| 22:01.10 | Nidhoggr | yeah.. it's not here right now. :) |
| 22:01.31 | Spiff | Thought so, Nidhoggr. I didn't get any message telling me to identify when I connected. |
| 22:01.44 | Spiff | Iteresting term larsl. ;-) |
| 22:02.04 | bryjen | ~dict splat |
| 22:02.05 | larsl | Spiff: It's not mine, I saw it in a topic on a channel here. |
| 22:02.11 | larsl | Past tense for netsplit. =) |
| 22:02.12 | Spiff | Forgive my slowness... it took me a few seconds to get the joke. :-) |
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| 22:03.21 | bryjen | ping pong anyone? |
| 22:03.21 | larsl | There they are. |
| 22:03.37 | Spiff | Well hello there. LoL |
| 22:04.28 | Spiff | Wow.. and it's laggy. |
| 22:04.32 | Spiff | Impressive. ;-) |
| 22:07.48 | bryjen | ~dict 3 splat |
| 22:15.36 | creeperz | Woohoo |
| 22:15.46 | creeperz | $4.00 in my account |
| 22:16.04 | creeperz | Well, if you round to the dime |
| 22:17.31 | Nidhoggr | heh.. swbell wrote back and said they would pursue Spoogebob for breach of thier TOS |
| 22:17.48 | larsl | =) |
| 22:18.00 | creeperz | I'm gunna go beg for food. See yu |
| 22:18.31 | patlabor221 | netsplut? |
| 22:19.57 | larsl | Nidhoggr: Did they sound like they meant it? |
| 22:20.16 | bryjen | who's a splut? |
| 22:21.13 | Nidhoggr | definitely. |
| 22:21.49 | Nidhoggr | he was on secretplace and I said "Larry, I'm tired of you abusing my servers. I'm going to report you to SW Bell abuse." |
| 22:21.55 | Nidhoggr | he left VERY fast. |
| 22:22.11 | larsl | Larry? |
| 22:22.31 | Nidhoggr | his real first name. |
| 22:22.35 | Nidhoggr | he goes by his middle name |
| 22:22.45 | larsl | Did you get that from his webpage? |
| 22:22.54 | Nidhoggr | his resume :) |
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| 22:24.27 | TimRiker | http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnu.org%2Fbrave-gnu-world%2Fissue-34.de.html&lp=de_en&tt=url |
| 22:24.32 | TimRiker | gotta love babelfish |
| 22:24.42 | creeperz | Hi Tim |
| 22:25.08 | patlabor221 | Landschaft? |
| 22:25.29 | larsl | "Chris beautifuul man" =) |
| 22:25.35 | larsl | s/uu/u/ |
| 22:25.48 | TimRiker | heh |
| 22:26.03 | patlabor221 | with the Macintosh haven |
| 22:26.37 | TimRiker | completely again wrote Chris it <- what ever say you Yoda. |
| 22:27.14 | patlabor221 | I sense much beer in you. |
| 22:28.51 | TimRiker | not here. ;-) |
| 22:29.14 | larsl | patlabor221: I copied version.h to include/ since autotools uses it too now. I didn't remove it from win32/ because I didn't know if that would cause any problems with win32 builds. |
| 22:31.15 | patlabor221 | would autotools not make a version.h for you guys? |
| 22:31.26 | patlabor221 | but I figureed you would do something with it |
| 22:31.35 | patlabor221 | hence the "TODO" in the cxx file :) |
| 22:32.18 | larsl | I suppose we could hack automake to generate a version.h, but since you already had written parsing code for __DATE__ I just copied it. |
| 22:33.15 | patlabor221 | well what about the OS and it filling all that in? |
| 22:33.47 | larsl | It does that in configure.in. Since it's already defined it will ignore the definitions in version.h. |
| 22:34.05 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 22:34.18 | patlabor221 | that's not how I envisioned it, but hey what ever works for you guys |
| 22:34.18 | larsl | (You used "#ifndef BUILD_OS \ #define BUILD_OS blah \ #endif |
| 22:35.02 | larsl | How did you envision it? |
| 22:35.21 | patlabor221 | autotools would make both the version.h and the config.h |
| 22:35.33 | patlabor221 | cus we want to touch version.h on each build |
| 22:35.42 | larsl | It is touched on each build now. |
| 22:35.45 | larsl | Just not regenerated. |
| 22:35.47 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 22:36.03 | patlabor221 | well does it still use the current build date? |
| 22:36.16 | patlabor221 | on windows it's caches it :( |
| 22:36.26 | larsl | Yes, since it recompiles all files that includes version.h. |
| 22:36.34 | larsl | It caches __DATE__? |
| 22:36.38 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:36.44 | larsl | Or does it used precompiled headers? |
| 22:36.54 | patlabor221 | if it dosn't reabuild globals.cxx |
| 22:36.55 | patlabor221 | no |
| 22:37.02 | patlabor221 | it's just the normal cahcing hting |
| 22:37.39 | patlabor221 | it sounds like I should change windows to be more like your stuff and move the BuildOS to our config.h |
| 22:37.47 | patlabor221 | and then get rid of my version.h |
| 22:37.53 | patlabor221 | so then there is one single place to change the version |
| 22:37.57 | patlabor221 | and I like that very much |
| 22:38.13 | TyroneFHornigh | autotools doesn't rebuild config.h on each build, only when it needs to. |
| 22:38.21 | larsl | That sounds good. We could remove the version definitions from configure.in too. |
| 22:38.34 | patlabor221 | as long as it uses the current __date_ then your cool |
| 22:38.39 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:38.49 | TyroneFHornigh | That's pulled during the build, not during the config. |
| 22:38.51 | patlabor221 | and the OS from verison.h |
| 22:39.01 | patlabor221 | yes, I know, during the build |
| 22:39.14 | patlabor221 | my problem on windows is during the build, as I have no config :) |
| 22:39.41 | TyroneFHornigh | OS is assumed to be the same after config. We don't have any cross compiling yet. |
| 22:39.44 | patlabor221 | damn that SF |
| 22:39.48 | patlabor221 | I can't CO |
| 22:39.58 | patlabor221 | yeah so it should be fine |
| 22:40.13 | patlabor221 | I just need to find a way to make it rebuild the global.cxx each time |
| 22:40.39 | larsl | We still need to know the version in configure.in though, to generate source distributions with the right name. |
| 22:40.55 | patlabor221 | can you pull it from the version file? |
| 22:41.06 | larsl | We could parse it somehow, yeah. |
| 22:41.15 | patlabor221 | that would be the slickest |
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| 22:41.31 | patlabor221 | I've been looking into trying to get the windows installer to read from it |
| 22:41.53 | patlabor221 | cvs update: warning: unrecognized response `Remote process exit code unavailable |
| 22:41.53 | patlabor221 | ' from cvs server |
| 22:41.53 | patlabor221 | cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 22:41.53 | patlabor221 | Error, CVS operation failed |
| 22:42.07 | Spiff | Why's that, Patlabor? |
| 22:42.15 | patlabor221 | cus I can't CVS |
| 22:42.22 | Spiff | Ohh. That bites. |
| 22:45.15 | learner | Would you noisy people hush up so I can catch up on the log ?? Mkay? :) |
| 22:45.58 | learner | hey pat: what's windows return for __DATE__? |
| 22:46.17 | patlabor221 | Sep 16 2003 |
| 22:46.30 | learner | I was mistaken the other day -- os x was returning the same as everyone else when I used the c++ compiler |
| 22:46.43 | patlabor221 | brb |
| 22:47.09 | learner | I ran across a link that hinted to the fact that Mmm dd yyyy is actually specified for c++ |
| 22:48.01 | larsl | That's good. |
| 22:50.27 | TyroneFHornigh | 500 hits on my web site for the default ip address. What are people thinking? |
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| 22:51.12 | larsl | learner: How does the new configure.in/version.h stuff work on Mac? |
| 22:51.14 | learner | moin Chestal |
| 22:51.38 | learner | it should work just fine -- haven't tested it |
| 22:52.33 | bryjen | eeeek! lotsa errors referencing VotingArbiter |
| 22:52.40 | learner | er? |
| 22:53.03 | bryjen | trying to build a 1.9 CVS snapshot |
| 22:54.39 | bryjen | VotingArbiter.h: (various lines) : parse errors, syntax errors, redefinitions |
| 22:54.49 | learner | I'll check it out |
| 22:55.28 | bryjen | bzflag-2003-09-16-12.21.16.tar.gz from cap's snaphot thingy |
| 22:56.42 | larsl | What timezone is that? |
| 22:56.54 | bryjen | US mountain |
| 22:57.03 | bryjen | currently UTC - 6 i think |
| 22:57.14 | learner | heh.. "currently" :) |
| 22:57.36 | bryjen | daylight/summer time right now |
| 22:58.01 | learner | MDT :) |
| 22:58.29 | larsl | So that's just a couple of hours old... CVS is building for me right now. |
| 22:58.38 | learner | we need a ~convert 5 MDT to EST |
| 22:59.42 | larsl | Is it safe to assume that systems using autotools will have Perl installed? |
| 22:59.51 | learner | ghod no |
| 23:00.01 | larsl | Isn't automake a Perl script? |
| 23:00.18 | TyroneFHornigh | I think automake is a perl script and we need perl for autotools. |
| 23:00.24 | learner | ah, is this for pre gen or configure? |
| 23:00.43 | learner | I meant configure shouldn't require/assume it's presence |
| 23:00.44 | larsl | To get the version numbers from version.h into configure.in. |
| 23:00.59 | larsl | When running 'configure'. |
| 23:01.33 | TyroneFHornigh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.33 | TyroneFHornigh | #!/usr/bin/perl -w |
| 23:01.33 | TyroneFHornigh | # -*- perl -*- |
| 23:01.33 | TyroneFHornigh | # automake. Generated from automake.in by configure. |
| 23:01.34 | larsl | I suppose it could be done with shell scripting too. |
| 23:01.47 | learner | it's one thing to require it as a developer, it's another to require end users who download source distributions |
| 23:02.04 | larsl | That's true, users probably don't run automake. |
| 23:02.23 | TyroneFHornigh | How else would they generate the configure script? |
| 23:02.28 | learner | they shouldn't have to |
| 23:02.43 | learner | you're supposed to ship a configure script in a source distribution |
| 23:02.44 | larsl | It should already be in the dist. |
| 23:03.23 | larsl | Could sed be used for parsing? We already use that for the man pages. |
| 23:03.36 | learner | sure, sed and awk can do wonders |
| 23:17.38 | larsl | What's the character that's used in a sed regex to say that the previous pattern appears one or more times? I tried [ \t]+ for one or more whitespace characters, but it doesn't seem to like the '+'. |
| 23:19.25 | learner | escape it |
| 23:20.00 | larsl | \+ |
| 23:20.01 | larsl | ? |
| 23:20.53 | larsl | That worked. Thanks. |
| 23:21.27 | learner | It depends on how your "'quote'" your expression |
| 23:21.42 | larsl | I'm using ''. |
| 23:21.54 | learner | that's a good safe one |
| 23:22.35 | learner | which implies you have to escape + and parens, but not brackets or * |
| 23:22.38 | learner | iirc |
| 23:23.25 | larsl | Ah, () too? |
| 23:23.34 | larsl | That explains why it complained about not finding \1. |
| 23:23.41 | learner | if you want it to match and find \1 yes :) |
| 23:25.55 | bryjen | is it sed or bash your escaping for/from ? |
| 23:26.08 | TyroneFHornigh | Probably both, since it's part of a script. |
| 23:26.36 | bryjen | yeah. keeping the shell from eating your special chars is annoying sometimes |
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| 23:31.43 | TyroneFHornigh | Apple needs to integrate it's new compiler a bit better, but bzflag built under gcc 3.3 |
| 23:31.54 | learner | here's a quick quiz for the sed-savy.. |
| 23:32.08 | learner | what command does this correspond to: |
| 23:32.10 | learner | TEST="`echo $2 | sed 's/^.*\/\(.*\)$/\1/'`" |
| 23:32.21 | learner | TyroneFHornigh: cool |
| 23:32.26 | learner | any faster? |
| 23:32.43 | TyroneFHornigh | It's hard to say when running on the ibook. ;^) |
| 23:32.53 | learner | lol |
| 23:33.13 | TyroneFHornigh | That's the opposite of basename, but I forget the command |
| 23:33.58 | TyroneFHornigh | I have plenty of cookies, just let me paw through Safari, and I'll get you one. |
| 23:35.01 | learner | actually, it's the same as basename, but it was close enough to recognize that :) |
| 23:35.15 | learner | dirname is the other one |
| 23:49.06 | larsl | Added sed parsing in configure.in to get the version number, versions should now be defined only in version.h. |
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| 23:56.03 | TyroneFHornigh | learner: Any idea how to grab the version numbers and put them into the application's property list? |
| 23:58.24 | learner | hrm |
