| 00:37.44 | tea|tree_ | HuHu |
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| 01:09.55 | *** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 01:10.12 | BZSpiff | What is +i anyway? LoL |
| 01:14.36 | [dmp] | afaik: +i = invisible. So we cannot see which channels you join. |
| 01:15.02 | BZSpiff | Ahhhh. Cool. |
| 01:16.00 | [dmp] | hmm |
| 01:16.10 | [dmp] | not sure.. actually |
| 01:16.32 | [dmp] | but i outta go to bed. 3+am. times runs faster at night for some reason. |
| 01:19.42 | BZSpiff | Geeeeeeeez. It's onlay 8:18 PM here. :-) |
| 01:19.58 | BZSpiff | Have a good morning [dmp]. Hehehe. |
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| 01:22.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
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| 01:40.42 | captain_proton | doobeedoo |
| 01:46.21 | patlabor221 | whoot, Texture Manager just may now read PNG files :) |
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| 01:48.35 | SGI | v |
| 01:49.09 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:49.11 | captain_proton | hiya scanline |
| 01:49.12 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-184.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 01:49.20 | scanline | hi |
| 01:49.42 | patlabor221 | in ye olde' python? |
| 01:49.43 | scanline | http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2003018295808.gif |
| 01:49.53 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yeup |
| 01:50.11 | patlabor221 | cool |
| 01:51.08 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/ch/ |
| 01:51.24 | scanline | :) |
| 01:51.30 | scanline | there's one on navi that could be combined with |
| 01:51.49 | captain_proton | i wish we still had dan's collection |
| 01:52.00 | captain_proton | he grabbed them all before they instituted their subscription thingy |
| 01:53.09 | captain_proton | i've been pondering getting a free trial thingy, leeching them all and then cancelling it |
| 01:54.40 | captain_proton | scanline: you should try pyg...its quite cute |
| 01:55.12 | scanline | hmm.. meneeds the vte module |
| 01:55.23 | captain_proton | USE=python emerge vte |
| 01:56.01 | scanline | python seems to be a handy thing to just stick in my USE variable permanently :) |
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| 01:57.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 01:59.29 | scanline | haha |
| 01:59.34 | scanline | it's vim, in a pyg! |
| 01:59.54 | captain_proton | it'll respect EDITOR too |
| 02:00.19 | scanline | hehe... doesn't clear $DISPLAY yet |
| 02:01.04 | scanline | export EDITOR='emacs -nw' doesn't seem to work |
| 02:01.07 | scanline | it never loads |
| 02:02.04 | captain_proton | ah |
| 02:02.06 | captain_proton | doesn't do arguments |
| 02:03.24 | captain_proton | patches welcome ;) |
| 02:03.39 | scanline | already started |
| 02:04.19 | captain_proton | =) |
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| 02:13.10 | SGI | qqq |
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| 02:31.10 | scanline | captain_proton: was Carnage /msg'ing you too? right after he joined he asked me for his voice, not realizing that I don't have one of them shiny @ thingies |
| 02:31.21 | captain_proton | scanline: yeah |
| 02:31.56 | captain_proton | oof |
| 02:31.58 | scanline | I was just figuring that he left me alone and went to bother someone that did have ops |
| 02:31.59 | captain_proton | its all humid :P |
| 02:34.13 | *** join/#bzflag robert_burns (~robert_bu@user-33qt5iq.dialup.mindspring.com) |
| 02:34.18 | robert_burns | hi guys |
| 02:34.29 | robert_burns | my nick is ravenouswolf |
| 02:34.57 | robert_burns | on happypenguin, we have a 13-year-old TK/bitch that needs to be permanently banned |
| 02:35.08 | robert_burns | any admins here? |
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| 02:35.41 | robert_burns | hiya SGI, just noticed you :-) |
| 02:35.51 | robert_burns | nx86 are you an admin? |
| 02:36.24 | ChipX86 | captain_proton: hey, you're the guy from that tank game! |
| 02:36.35 | captain_proton | ChipX86: nah, i don't play so much anymore |
| 02:36.53 | robert_burns | is ANYONE here? |
| 02:37.00 | robert_burns | this is fairly urgent |
| 02:37.07 | robert_burns | she's wrecking the entire game |
| 02:37.56 | robert_burns | HELLO! |
| 02:38.23 | robert_burns | brb |
| 02:41.51 | robert_burns | dammit, is anyone here! |
| 02:43.11 | robert_burns | this is really frustrating |
| 02:43.19 | robert_burns | this is actually pathetic |
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| 03:12.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 03:19.30 | robert_burns | hey pat |
| 03:19.38 | robert_burns | are you there? |
| 03:19.46 | patlabor221 | I am |
| 03:19.52 | robert_burns | great |
| 03:19.55 | robert_burns | are you an admin? |
| 03:20.07 | patlabor221 | on? |
| 03:20.13 | robert_burns | happypenguin |
| 03:20.17 | patlabor221 | no |
| 03:20.21 | robert_burns | drat |
| 03:20.22 | robert_burns | wellll |
| 03:20.32 | patlabor221 | who runs happypenguin? |
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| 03:20.36 | robert_burns | you need to watch out for a player with the nickname: |
| 03:20.40 | robert_burns | fuckya |
| 03:20.46 | robert_burns | need i say any more? |
| 03:20.59 | patlabor221 | who runs that server? |
| 03:21.06 | robert_burns | "she" claimed she was a 13 year old |
| 03:21.11 | robert_burns | TK bigtime |
| 03:21.20 | robert_burns | and uhhhh, brining the conversation down a lot |
| 03:21.30 | patlabor221 | who runs that server? |
| 03:21.35 | robert_burns | i do not know who runs the server |
| 03:21.43 | robert_burns | it is one of the most popular ones |
| 03:21.59 | robert_burns | i think it's bzflag.happypenguin.org |
| 03:22.05 | patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.07 | robert_burns | lemme check real quick... |
| 03:22.29 | robert_burns | it's happypenguin.bzflag.org |
| 03:22.53 | robert_burns | yeah, it was pretty bad |
| 03:22.59 | robert_burns | i play quite a bit... |
| 03:23.04 | robert_burns | could i be an admin? |
| 03:23.14 | captain_proton | we can't answer that |
| 03:23.17 | patlabor221 | ask the server owner |
| 03:23.21 | robert_burns | ok |
| 03:23.27 | robert_burns | how hard is it to be an admin? |
| 03:23.28 | patlabor221 | each server is it's owners deal |
| 03:23.33 | robert_burns | right |
| 03:23.37 | robert_burns | i understand |
| 03:23.39 | patlabor221 | ask th owner |
| 03:23.43 | robert_burns | i will |
| 03:23.46 | robert_burns | grrrrr |
| 03:23.51 | robert_burns | really ticked me off |
| 03:24.14 | patlabor221 | I would sugest not going there then |
| 03:24.28 | robert_burns | i think it was really a 20 year old male with too much time on his hands |
| 03:24.38 | patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 03:24.39 | robert_burns | yeah, it's my fave map though :-/ |
| 03:25.02 | patlabor221 | then contact the server admin, check the admin messages on the server |
| 03:25.06 | patlabor221 | we can't help |
| 03:25.10 | robert_burns | he played like a girl though lol |
| 03:25.12 | robert_burns | got it |
| 03:25.16 | robert_burns | thanks anyways |
| 03:25.40 | robert_burns | lol |
| 03:26.00 | robert_burns | i do too, but it's the truth! |
| 03:26.54 | robert_burns | i'm looking for a place to report it right now |
| 03:27.19 | patlabor221 | do a /report when you are loged in |
| 03:27.25 | robert_burns | ahhhhhh |
| 03:27.33 | robert_burns | i will do that |
| 03:27.37 | robert_burns | thank you |
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| 03:38.58 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@balt-209-163-100-139.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 03:41.00 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:41.13 | MrApathyCream | girlfriend again? |
| 03:41.23 | captain_proton | new one |
| 03:41.27 | captain_proton | pyg |
| 03:41.51 | MrApathyCream | anyone know of a free mib browser for win32 that's any good? |
| 03:41.59 | patlabor221 | cap what did we tell you about writing girls in python! |
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| 03:43.25 | ivan_ | has anyone write bzflag bots? |
| 03:43.55 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 03:43.59 | patlabor221 | basic robots are built into the code |
| 03:44.59 | ivan_ | oh. that's too bad |
| 03:45.04 | ivan_ | there should be an interface |
| 03:45.13 | patlabor221 | yes there should be |
| 03:45.18 | ivan_ | and a yes/no bot option for servers |
| 03:45.35 | MrApathyCream | go ahead, we're interested to see how your's works |
| 03:45.52 | patlabor221 | patch it on up :) |
| 03:46.02 | robert_burns | lol |
| 03:46.26 | ivan_ | i don't do C++ |
| 03:46.30 | robert_burns | i do |
| 03:46.35 | ivan_ | it's against my religion |
| 03:46.41 | robert_burns | i have been thinking about it |
| 03:46.46 | robert_burns | then damn you to hell lol |
| 03:47.03 | robert_burns | boo, hiss |
| 03:47.07 | patlabor221 | what DO you do? |
| 03:47.20 | robert_burns | damned anti-C++ Nazi |
| 03:47.24 | robert_burns | lmao |
| 03:47.26 | robert_burns | j/k |
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| 03:47.41 | robert_burns | yes ivan |
| 03:47.45 | patlabor221 | if you want server side bots, you need to have the server track a full game state. |
| 03:47.48 | robert_burns | what DO you do? |
| 03:47.53 | robert_burns | C? |
| 03:47.55 | robert_burns | Perl? |
| 03:48.05 | ivan_ | i do python! |
| 03:48.11 | robert_burns | BOO HISS!!!! |
| 03:48.15 | captain_proton | speak of the devil |
| 03:48.18 | robert_burns | PERL FOREVER! |
| 03:48.25 | robert_burns | DAMN THE PYTHONS! |
| 03:48.25 | ivan_ | NOOO PERL SUX U STUPID |
| 03:48.25 | captain_proton | you could write bots with...pybzflag |
| 03:48.28 | patlabor221 | then hook up a python bot in pybzflag |
| 03:48.31 | ivan_ | oh ok |
| 03:48.35 | robert_burns | lmao |
| 03:48.37 | captain_proton | robert_burns, ivan_: quit the flaming |
| 03:48.37 | robert_burns | j/k |
| 03:48.43 | robert_burns | just kidding |
| 03:48.50 | robert_burns | i am laughing my ass off |
| 03:48.55 | robert_burns | j/k |
| 03:49.07 | captain_proton | robert_burns: so you're allowed to act stupid so long as you're only joking? |
| 03:49.18 | robert_burns | <mea culpa> |
| 03:49.23 | robert_burns | sorry |
| 03:49.31 | patlabor221 | maybe the riddilin wore off |
| 03:49.35 | captain_proton | patlabor221: could be |
| 03:49.38 | robert_burns | i thought that he knew it was funny |
| 03:49.57 | robert_burns | sigh |
| 03:50.08 | robert_burns | some people have no sense of humor :-/ |
| 03:50.27 | MrApathyCream | can you act stupid if you really are? |
| 03:50.36 | patlabor221 | no |
| 03:50.41 | robert_burns | heheh |
| 03:50.44 | robert_burns | very funny |
| 03:50.48 | MrApathyCream | arg... ok... i'm off then, sorry |
| 03:51.09 | ivan_ | pybzflag does look neat |
| 03:52.00 | robert_burns | i havent looked at it yet |
| 03:52.09 | robert_burns | it does look interesting |
| 03:52.16 | robert_burns | i mean "sound" interesting |
| 03:52.29 | robert_burns | lol |
| 03:52.35 | captain_proton | learner: nice nap? |
| 03:52.39 | learner | not yet |
| 03:52.49 | captain_proton | you know what this means? |
| 03:52.51 | learner | I was giving myself a haircut and cutting the yard |
| 03:52.57 | robert_burns | ivan_: what exactly does pybzflag do? |
| 03:53.05 | captain_proton | deepcore.uoregon.edu, right now! |
| 03:53.05 | robert_burns | where do you live? |
| 03:53.07 | patlabor221 | at the same time? |
| 03:53.11 | learner | lol |
| 03:53.19 | patlabor221 | with the same implement? |
| 03:53.35 | captain_proton | learner: you know ya want to |
| 03:53.50 | learner | cap: you know I want to |
| 03:54.34 | ivan_ | xpilot is boring |
| 03:54.42 | captain_proton | blah |
| 03:54.49 | learner | shush |
| 03:55.07 | robert_burns | well, some of you guys seem to be rather anti-social, so i will see you later (or not) |
| 03:55.22 | learner | not really robert :) |
| 03:55.36 | robert_burns | i refer to MyApathyCream |
| 03:55.43 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:55.49 | captain_proton | mac? unsocial? |
| 03:55.51 | robert_burns | and captain_proton |
| 03:55.54 | learner | oh.. that's why we keep him chained up here |
| 03:56.18 | captain_proton | mmhmm |
| 03:57.07 | robert_burns | apparently, they have a problem with ivan and myself kidding each other over some of the older software rivalries that are C vs. C++ and Perl vs. Python |
| 03:57.09 | captain_proton | for EXTRA SPEED! |
| 03:57.30 | captain_proton | robert_burns: i've seen so many arguments like that that i don't tolerate them at all |
| 03:57.47 | robert_burns | that was hardly and argument |
| 03:57.54 | robert_burns | *an argument |
| 03:58.24 | robert_burns | in truth, every language has its advantages |
| 03:58.28 | captain_proton | robert_burns: not yet, anyways |
| 03:58.41 | patlabor221 | well except for the moo language |
| 03:58.43 | robert_burns | i dont plan on getting into an argument |
| 03:58.45 | robert_burns | lol |
| 03:58.47 | patlabor221 | that has no advatages |
| 03:58.52 | patlabor221 | or VB |
| 03:58.54 | robert_burns | never heard of it lol |
| 03:58.55 | captain_proton | robert_burns: but i don't know that - you're new here |
| 03:58.57 | robert_burns | YES!!!!! |
| 03:59.08 | captain_proton | patlabor221: VB is a decent RAD prototyping tool |
| 03:59.09 | robert_burns | VB sux :-) |
| 03:59.15 | robert_burns | oh boy |
| 03:59.18 | robert_burns | here we go |
| 03:59.30 | patlabor221 | don't make me MFC it |
| 03:59.53 | learner | grrr |
| 03:59.59 | robert_burns | heheh |
| 04:00.05 | patlabor221 | rather violent there mr burns |
| 04:00.10 | robert_burns | lol |
| 04:00.27 | robert_burns | uh oh |
| 04:00.46 | robert_burns | the Terminator says that he is gonna terminate Gray Davis |
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| 04:00.51 | robert_burns | now THAT is violent lol |
| 04:01.09 | patlabor221 | yeah but he's not doing it HERE :) |
| 04:01.19 | robert_burns | lol |
| 04:02.55 | robert_burns | geez, getting late |
| 04:03.17 | robert_burns | i feel the hacker hormones starting to fire up :-) |
| 04:04.16 | patlabor221 | what kind of engine are you making? |
| 04:04.25 | robert_burns | 3D RTS engine |
| 04:04.36 | robert_burns | just starting it |
| 04:04.50 | robert_burns | i have a pretty good idea of how i am going to design it |
| 04:05.07 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): minor Protocol.h tweaks |
| 04:05.31 | robert_burns | do you like RTS? |
| 04:05.50 | patlabor221 | RTS emngies are usualy rather simple |
| 04:05.55 | robert_burns | yes |
| 04:05.57 | JoeCelko | hey the jerk just uppercased all the Msg constants in protocol.h what is he doing? |
| 04:06.04 | patlabor221 | usualy drid based |
| 04:06.17 | robert_burns | what's drid? |
| 04:06.23 | patlabor221 | grid |
| 04:06.24 | patlabor221 | sorry |
| 04:06.28 | robert_burns | yes |
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| 04:06.39 | robert_burns | but..... |
| 04:07.03 | robert_burns | my engine's terrain will hopefully be based on Bezier surfaces |
| 04:07.13 | learner | lotsa unknownski's tonight looking at the user list.. |
| 04:07.32 | robert_burns | and of course it will be 3D |
| 04:07.34 | captain_proton | terrain based on beziers? thats a little strange |
| 04:07.38 | robert_burns | yes |
| 04:07.40 | captain_proton | seems like perlin noise is a better choice |
| 04:07.40 | robert_burns | but... |
| 04:07.50 | captain_proton | so it'll be terrainy instead of smooth |
| 04:08.05 | captain_proton | humming a rap song? |
| 04:08.08 | robert_burns | it will be nice to have rolling hills |
| 04:08.11 | learner | =) |
| 04:08.11 | robert_burns | lol |
| 04:08.27 | robert_burns | that way, i can have rolling hills |
| 04:08.28 | captain_proton | perlin noise can be smooth, just use one octave at a low amplitude |
| 04:08.44 | robert_burns | i dont know about that algorithm |
| 04:08.52 | patlabor221 | read :) |
| 04:08.56 | robert_burns | i am relatively new to 3D |
| 04:08.56 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (AccessControlList.h): remove vc warnings |
| 04:08.58 | robert_burns | i will |
| 04:09.39 | robert_burns | do you think that a 3D RTS can "work"? |
| 04:10.03 | patlabor221 | there are some that do |
| 04:10.16 | robert_burns | do you think it is a good idea? |
| 04:10.20 | robert_burns | you seem experienced |
| 04:10.28 | patlabor221 | I would talk to the freecraft people |
| 04:10.43 | patlabor221 | just hearing "3d RTS" is not enough to comment |
| 04:10.58 | robert_burns | i mean an RTS like AoE II with full 3D graphics |
| 04:11.03 | patlabor221 | if it plays like total anilation then I will say it's good :) |
| 04:11.11 | patlabor221 | like warcraft3? |
| 04:11.14 | robert_burns | where you can rotate the camera, zoom |
| 04:11.22 | robert_burns | it wont be isometric |
| 04:11.29 | robert_burns | i havent played warcraft III |
| 04:11.35 | robert_burns | so i dont know |
| 04:11.36 | patlabor221 | it's warcarft in 3d |
| 04:11.44 | robert_burns | true 3D? |
| 04:11.44 | patlabor221 | you should look at what's out there |
| 04:11.53 | patlabor221 | yeah, but they lock the camera |
| 04:11.53 | robert_burns | is the engine fully exploited? |
| 04:11.57 | robert_burns | seee.... |
| 04:12.05 | patlabor221 | that's just an engine thing |
| 04:12.06 | robert_burns | that ruins the point of a 3D engine |
| 04:12.09 | patlabor221 | a tinny bit |
| 04:12.18 | patlabor221 | it's got 3d geo |
| 04:12.24 | patlabor221 | they just wanted teh 2d feel |
| 04:12.31 | robert_burns | well i DONT |
| 04:12.36 | robert_burns | i want full 3D |
| 04:12.43 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 04:12.46 | patlabor221 | so make yours difrent |
| 04:12.50 | robert_burns | right |
| 04:13.05 | robert_burns | i dont think that there are even commercial equivalents out there yet |
| 04:13.16 | robert_burns | except maybe Praetorian |
| 04:13.22 | patlabor221 | there are some |
| 04:13.29 | patlabor221 | go research |
| 04:13.34 | robert_burns | ok |
| 04:13.41 | robert_burns | none are opensource tho i bet :-) |
| 04:13.50 | ivan_ | the engine in warcraft 3 isn't really locked |
| 04:13.53 | ivan_ | you can use the mousewheel |
| 04:13.59 | patlabor221 | yeah you can move it some |
| 04:14.00 | ivan_ | but warcraft 3 sucks anyway, so it doesn't matter |
| 04:14.03 | robert_burns | yeah, but you cant rotate it |
| 04:14.11 | ivan_ | it's just a lame game for kiddies that got tired of starcraft |
| 04:14.13 | patlabor221 | really go talk to the freecaft people |
| 04:14.21 | robert_burns | hmmmmm |
| 04:14.23 | robert_burns | i might |
| 04:14.27 | patlabor221 | I'm sure they would be interestid in a new project |
| 04:14.32 | patlabor221 | since there's was killed |
| 04:14.33 | robert_burns | ahhhhh |
| 04:14.35 | ivan_ | they've already forked it to several |
| 04:14.38 | robert_burns | oh it was? |
| 04:14.40 | ivan_ | see happypenguin for clones |
| 04:14.42 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:14.43 | robert_burns | is that right? |
| 04:14.47 | ivan_ | YES THATS RIGHT |
| 04:14.51 | robert_burns | this is nooz to robert_burns |
| 04:14.54 | patlabor221 | vivendi killed em |
| 04:15.00 | robert_burns | is that right? |
| 04:15.01 | robert_burns | damn |
| 04:15.02 | patlabor221 | that was ages ago |
| 04:15.04 | robert_burns | too freakin bad |
| 04:15.06 | robert_burns | why? |
| 04:15.07 | patlabor221 | do you read the news? |
| 04:15.14 | patlabor221 | they read there format |
| 04:15.27 | patlabor221 | there format is copyrighted |
| 04:15.29 | robert_burns | ohhhhhh |
| 04:15.31 | robert_burns | ooooooh |
| 04:15.39 | robert_burns | that was a Mistake(tm) |
| 04:15.50 | patlabor221 | they wanted it to be compatable |
| 04:15.55 | robert_burns | oh ok |
| 04:15.57 | robert_burns | too bad |
| 04:16.01 | robert_burns | very shortsighted |
| 04:16.11 | patlabor221 | no, they wern't making a new game |
| 04:16.11 | robert_burns | mine would be totally original |
| 04:16.15 | robert_burns | ok |
| 04:16.26 | robert_burns | well i will email them |
| 04:16.51 | patlabor221 | there are also some rts engines for stuff like clanlib |
| 04:17.11 | robert_burns | i want to clone AoE II + full 3D + elements of Strongold + several of my own innovations |
| 04:17.25 | patlabor221 | so bust it out |
| 04:17.28 | robert_burns | AoE II was awesome, but parts of it bugged me |
| 04:17.29 | patlabor221 | the engine will be simple |
| 04:17.30 | robert_burns | i will |
| 04:17.32 | robert_burns | i know |
| 04:17.37 | robert_burns | that is why i am excited about it |
| 04:17.43 | robert_burns | i know it won't be too hard |
| 04:17.44 | JoeCelko | Who's working on the BZDB stuff, it seems to have died off... |
| 04:18.07 | robert_burns | lol |
| 04:18.17 | robert_burns | i sure appreciate you anti-socialites help ;-) |
| 04:18.29 | ivan_ | i tried the AoE II demo, it was pretty bad |
| 04:18.33 | ivan_ | especially the dithering |
| 04:18.35 | robert_burns | wellll |
| 04:18.36 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: whatcha need? |
| 04:18.37 | JoeCelko | I saw somewhere bzbb? that all the vars will be held on the server, and sent to the client, true? |
| 04:18.38 | ivan_ | wtf is up with that |
| 04:18.39 | patlabor221 | you forget the first rule of #bzflag |
| 04:18.41 | robert_burns | the graphics are really old |
| 04:18.50 | ivan_ | no, it's 2000-2001 |
| 04:18.57 | robert_burns | i realize that |
| 04:19.00 | ivan_ | they shouldn't be *that* bad |
| 04:19.03 | robert_burns | but the gameplay is awesome |
| 04:19.04 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: yeah, eventually |
| 04:19.09 | robert_burns | it's the gameplay |
| 04:19.13 | robert_burns | it's all the gameplay |
| 04:19.20 | JoeCelko | ah, ok, you doing that work captain_proton? |
| 04:19.28 | patlabor221 | TA had THE Gameplay :) |
| 04:19.30 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: sometimes |
| 04:19.34 | JoeCelko | :) |
| 04:19.40 | robert_burns | SW:GB keeps the engine and adds better graphics |
| 04:19.41 | ivan_ | it's hard to play if your eyes are burning out from the black and green moire pattern on your screen |
| 04:20.03 | robert_burns | it never bothered me, but i see how it could bother some people |
| 04:20.04 | captain_proton | SuperWeapon:GeorgeBush? |
| 04:20.09 | robert_burns | lmao |
| 04:20.14 | robert_burns | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 04:20.34 | patlabor221 | the starwars RTS Sucked |
| 04:20.38 | ivan_ | i want a nuclear explosion flag |
| 04:20.40 | patlabor221 | sucked HARD core |
| 04:20.45 | JoeCelko | How is the server op going to set these variables? |
| 04:20.47 | ivan_ | like the shockwave but bigger and it kills you afterward |
| 04:20.49 | robert_burns | no it doesnt |
| 04:20.52 | patlabor221 | play P2501 |
| 04:20.53 | robert_burns | i liked it |
| 04:21.00 | robert_burns | it wasnt original |
| 04:21.06 | patlabor221 | it was horible |
| 04:21.21 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: i was thinking its probably easiest to just use a server config that looks similar to the 1.9 client config (with the set commands) |
| 04:21.26 | patlabor221 | but still we digress. |
| 04:21.26 | robert_burns | but then again i am a SW freak, I loved AoE II, and I was able to get more milage out of AoE gameplay |
| 04:21.32 | patlabor221 | I call rule #1 in effect now. |
| 04:21.41 | robert_burns | what is rule #1 |
| 04:21.47 | robert_burns | in my book.... |
| 04:21.55 | robert_burns | Rule #1 is never to read Rule #1 |
| 04:21.55 | JoeCelko | makes sense... as long as they're not on the cmd line :) |
| 04:21.58 | patlabor221 | "no we will not help you make your crappy game" |
| 04:22.05 | robert_burns | lmao |
| 04:22.15 | captain_proton | rule #2 is "let sleeping scanlines lie" |
| 04:22.35 | robert_burns | hahaha |
| 04:22.41 | robert_burns | now what really is Rule #1 |
| 04:22.43 | JoeCelko | captain_proton, are all vars sent (even if just defaulted) or only the overridden ones |
| 04:22.48 | patlabor221 | #3) No DBZ names. |
| 04:22.52 | captain_proton | robert_burns: its exactly what patlabor221 said it was |
| 04:22.58 | robert_burns | lol |
| 04:23.00 | robert_burns | ok |
| 04:23.01 | robert_burns | got it |
| 04:23.07 | robert_burns | IOW, STFU robert_burns |
| 04:23.08 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: all |
| 04:23.18 | robert_burns | i got the message lol |
| 04:23.28 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: what if a variable changed between versions? the client and server would have different "defaults" |
| 04:23.33 | patlabor221 | at least till you get some decaf |
| 04:24.27 | captain_proton | hmmm...coffee... |
| 04:24.27 | JoeCelko | captain_proton: true. are variables hot configurable by server op? meaning bzfs notices the file changes rescans for diffs and rebroadcasts settings? |
| 04:24.48 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: well - there will be a callback in bzfs' local BZDB to resend any variables when they change |
| 04:24.55 | captain_proton | so theoretically it could rescan |
| 04:25.01 | captain_proton | or you could just add a server command to do it |
| 04:25.03 | JoeCelko | nice |
| 04:25.41 | robert_burns | damn, i really appreciate what you guys said abotu freecraft |
| 04:25.51 | JoeCelko | captain_proton, so that is what you're doing next? i could test if you like. |
| 04:26.13 | robert_burns | i will be extra-careful not to clone AoE II too exactly |
| 04:26.18 | learner | his name is robert paulson .. |
| 04:26.23 | learner | no wait -- it's robert burns |
| 04:26.52 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: its not exactly something that requires extensive testing |
| 04:26.52 | robert_burns | wtf is robert paulson? |
| 04:26.57 | robert_burns | ok that was real smart |
| 04:27.09 | robert_burns | i bet i really set myself up for a bigtime flame |
| 04:27.30 | JoeCelko | ah ok.. i thought it was hard since it has been a while in the making |
| 04:27.35 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: nah |
| 04:27.40 | captain_proton | its just sort of tedious at this point |
| 04:27.46 | captain_proton | so i'm entertaining myself elsewhere :) |
| 04:28.37 | JoeCelko | You should set up the paradigm for sending vars and also that thing about removing eval calls, what ever that is, and then other might help out |
| 04:28.51 | captain_proton | JoeCelko: well - just about all of this was done in 1.8 |
| 04:29.14 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream helped a little so far |
| 04:30.10 | learner | is scanline still poking the perlin noise or are you, cap? |
| 04:30.19 | robert_burns | damn those bastards at blizzard |
| 04:30.29 | robert_burns | i will never buy one of their games again |
| 04:30.34 | learner | or both of you |
| 04:30.36 | captain_proton | learner: i think he's satisfied for now |
| 04:30.57 | JoeCelko | captain_proton, MrApathyCream seems like a loose cannon to me... :) |
| 04:31.04 | robert_burns | lol |
| 04:32.37 | patlabor221 | all the founders quit blizzard anyway |
| 04:33.00 | robert_burns | oh ok |
| 04:33.12 | robert_burns | geez |
| 04:33.14 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@balt-209-163-100-139.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 04:33.20 | robert_burns | i need to tread carefully |
| 04:33.24 | learner | EEK! only 4gb left on one of my raid array partitions |
| 04:33.25 | MrApathyCream | hyde hoo |
| 04:33.30 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:33.33 | captain_proton | raid array... |
| 04:33.35 | robert_burns | there's the loose cannon hisself |
| 04:33.40 | MrApathyCream | hmmm? |
| 04:33.53 | robert_burns | lmao |
| 04:34.10 | robert_burns | lol |
| 04:34.24 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 04:34.28 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:34.28 | robert_burns | lmao |
| 04:34.29 | MrApathyCream | joe? |
| 04:34.35 | learner | mac? |
| 04:34.36 | robert_burns | sorry, i am enjoying the moment |
| 04:34.39 | JBDiGriz | a close IP connection |
| 04:35.24 | MrApathyCream | wow we DO the same ip, that's really odd |
| 04:35.24 | learner | :) jb is rather observant! |
| 04:35.35 | MrApathyCream | where are you at? |
| 04:36.07 | captain_proton | MAC? innocent? never |
| 04:36.09 | JoeCelko | I'm sitting in your chair, you idiot |
| 04:36.14 | robert_burns | lmao |
| 04:36.25 | JBDiGriz | Hold on, I don't want to hear any more! |
| 04:36.33 | JoeCelko | that was quite observant JBDiGriz |
| 04:36.56 | captain_proton | noooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 04:37.01 | captain_proton | cgshaders.org is down -again- :( |
| 04:37.24 | JoeCelko | well i guess i'll be back when that slackard MAC is gone |
| 04:37.25 | JoeCelko | l8r |
| 04:37.38 | robert_burns | lmao |
| 04:38.00 | robert_burns | i have no idea WTF is going on |
| 04:38.02 | patlabor221 | robbie, you laugh your ass off a bit much |
| 04:38.06 | learner | mac is bipolar too?!?! so many of them around here... *sigh* |
| 04:38.20 | patlabor221 | carnie is quad polar |
| 04:38.33 | JBDiGriz | Who ordered the big mac with a cuppa joe? |
| 04:38.39 | learner | pat: it must be a big one the way he's going at it |
| 04:38.40 | robert_burns | patlabor221: hahah |
| 04:39.09 | patlabor221 | I think he's just missing his next dose |
| 04:39.16 | captain_proton | hmm, quadpolar? |
| 04:39.28 | robert_burns | that's an interesting one indeed |
| 04:39.35 | JBDiGriz | That way he can play all four colors in CTF. |
| 04:39.36 | patlabor221 | he has been known to be at least 4 names |
| 04:39.40 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: ohh |
| 04:39.43 | patlabor221 | ohh he's played himself |
| 04:39.47 | robert_burns | lol |
| 04:39.55 | robert_burns | i have two nicks |
| 04:39.57 | JBDiGriz | Hang on, let's not get personal again! |
| 04:40.02 | robert_burns | but only use one |
| 04:40.27 | learner | I'm going to love seeing how dmp's new duration ladder settles out -- I'm betting ol' carny's in the top 5 |
| 04:40.51 | JBDiGriz | Only if it sorts by IP address and combines nicks. |
| 04:41.07 | robert_burns | carny is good |
| 04:41.15 | robert_burns | i am getting good too |
| 04:41.23 | patlabor221 | no he's a lier and a cheat |
| 04:41.23 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: that screws up NATers |
| 04:41.31 | robert_burns | oh oh |
| 04:41.38 | JBDiGriz | If you have to call yourself good, then you're not getting good. |
| 04:41.43 | captain_proton | patlabor221: but he says he's not LTD |
| 04:41.51 | JBDiGriz | When others call you good, then you're getting good. |
| 04:41.52 | learner | I'd give you some advice, but the last player i did that to is now whipping my butt |
| 04:42.01 | robert_burns | wellll |
| 04:42.24 | learner | JB: :) hehe |
| 04:42.29 | captain_proton | ooh neat |
| 04:42.37 | captain_proton | my controller card shipped |
| 04:42.40 | robert_burns | i can tell you that my most recent kill ratio on one of the jumping maps was 2.5:1 |
| 04:42.49 | learner | cap: but you don't know my address |
| 04:42.54 | robert_burns | and i am about 1:1 on the ducati maps |
| 04:42.57 | captain_proton | learner: its shipping to me |
| 04:43.03 | learner | :( |
| 04:43.13 | captain_proton | its probably below your standards anyway - IDE |
| 04:43.19 | learner | but then you're shipping it to me... riiight? |
| 04:43.21 | captain_proton | oh wait! |
| 04:43.26 | captain_proton | macs use IDE now! |
| 04:43.35 | learner | "now" hehe |
| 04:43.44 | robert_burns | any mac users here? |
| 04:43.46 | captain_proton | learner: but then how am i going to hook up the pile of disks that come on monday? |
| 04:43.57 | robert_burns | i am on Linux right now, but i have an iMac/G4 too |
| 04:44.07 | learner | duct tape, cap.. duct tape |
| 04:44.13 | patlabor221 | I got it |
| 04:44.16 | JBDiGriz | JBOD |
| 04:44.26 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: eh - we're going RAID5 |
| 04:44.32 | learner | Jumbo boulder of death? |
| 04:44.32 | captain_proton | no reason to risk the data |
| 04:44.49 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (2 files): pruning |
| 04:44.50 | robert_burns | well, i better hit the hay |
| 04:45.01 | patlabor221 | yay |
| 04:45.05 | robert_burns | i really appreciate the info on freecraft and rts engines |
| 04:45.08 | patlabor221 | how much did you get |
| 04:45.13 | captain_proton | 7*120 |
| 04:45.18 | patlabor221 | it's all public knownlege there robbie |
| 04:45.26 | robert_burns | heh |
| 04:45.32 | learner | 7? |
| 04:45.39 | captain_proton | learner: yep |
| 04:45.41 | patlabor221 | not bad |
| 04:45.42 | robert_burns | and would you stop calling me robbie, pattie? |
| 04:45.42 | captain_proton | to add to our existing 5 |
| 04:45.48 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 04:45.58 | robert_burns | have it your way pattie |
| 04:45.59 | patlabor221 | not till you make some poetry |
| 04:46.05 | captain_proton | in two 6-wide arrays, giving us one 1.2T volume >:) |
| 04:46.07 | robert_burns | oh shit |
| 04:46.11 | robert_burns | not poetry |
| 04:46.29 | robert_burns | you have my permission to call me robbie, pattie |
| 04:46.49 | patlabor221 | ohh I'm soo glad I needed your permission |
| 04:47.13 | robert_burns | yes, you did |
| 04:47.18 | patlabor221 | whoot alien baby ep |
| 04:47.21 | robert_burns | otherwise, i would have.... |
| 04:47.22 | MrApathyCream | wow antidote flags are completely client side.. [learn somfin new....] |
| 04:47.23 | patlabor221 | no, no I didn't |
| 04:47.23 | robert_burns | uhhhh |
| 04:47.31 | JBDiGriz | In this corner, we have patlabor221 weighing in with Linux and a crusher machine |
| 04:47.40 | robert_burns | i dont know what i would have done, but you'd have been sorry! |
| 04:47.50 | patlabor221 | I would have? |
| 04:48.03 | patlabor221 | jbd, I'm on the living room comp now, it's not that bad ass |
| 04:48.07 | robert_burns | you bet your pretty shiny ass you would have |
| 04:48.13 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:48.16 | captain_proton | patlabor221 has a shiny ass? |
| 04:48.21 | patlabor221 | I would sugest you shut up now |
| 04:48.21 | JBDiGriz | And in this corner, we have the newcomer, robert_burns weighing in with another linux machine. |
| 04:48.35 | learner | so many ass references -- it's getting a little skanky in here |
| 04:48.38 | patlabor221 | ohh and this is XP |
| 04:48.48 | JBDiGriz | Gentlemen, I want a clean fight, no kicking, no banning, and no harsh language |
| 04:49.02 | JBDiGriz | You will score points for the amusing comments made |
| 04:49.04 | captain_proton | biting, eye gouges and licking are all allowed |
| 04:49.16 | captain_proton | ...uncrackable? |
| 04:49.17 | JBDiGriz | Our referee in the ring is captain_proton |
| 04:49.21 | captain_proton | its not hooked up to the interweb? |
| 04:49.22 | patlabor221 | cap, this isn't one of your dates |
| 04:49.22 | MrApathyCream | but no licking of shinny asses, please |
| 04:49.26 | JBDiGriz | Ringside will be learner |
| 04:49.27 | captain_proton | patlabor221: damn! |
| 04:49.43 | JBDiGriz | now shake hands and come out wise cracking! |
| 04:49.54 | JBDiGriz | DING! |
| 04:50.10 | patlabor221 | for what? |
| 04:50.26 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: am i allowed to make fun of them as they fight? |
| 04:50.39 | JBDiGriz | of course, it may inspire them! |
| 04:50.48 | patlabor221 | they have hotdogs? |
| 04:50.54 | patlabor221 | ohhh I want one. |
| 04:51.17 | captain_proton | hmm...hotdogs |
| 04:51.21 | captain_proton | yay for extruded meat |
| 04:51.26 | patlabor221 | sigh... ok, I don't really want to do this. |
| 04:51.56 | learner | hehe -- point pat ! :) |
| 04:51.59 | robert_burns | nwhy not |
| 04:52.27 | JBDiGriz | score another for pat! |
| 04:52.31 | patlabor221 | cus they smell |
| 04:52.33 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:52.40 | captain_proton | learner needs more exposure to nick danger! |
| 04:52.47 | JBDiGriz | regnad kcin |
| 04:52.48 | learner | cap: that was great! |
| 04:53.00 | patlabor221 | I didn't get a chance to listen to thim |
| 04:53.14 | *** mode/#bzflag [+q ~robert_bu*!*@*] by patlabor221 |
| 04:53.15 | JBDiGriz | I wonder where Ruth is? |
| 04:53.18 | patlabor221 | how's that? |
| 04:53.22 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: =) |
| 04:53.33 | learner | hehe, another point for pat :) |
| 04:53.44 | JBDiGriz | That might be a tko for pat. |
| 04:53.50 | learner | LOL! |
| 04:53.51 | captain_proton | patlabor221: here's the one i gave learner last night: |
| 04:54.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+q robert_bu*!*@*] by patlabor221 |
| 04:54.13 | patlabor221 | ohh yeah :) |
| 04:54.14 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/nick_danger-the_missing_shoe.mp3 |
| 04:54.31 | patlabor221 | gahhhh no speakers here :) |
| 04:54.37 | captain_proton | learner: i |
| 04:54.41 | captain_proton | 'm uploading |
| 04:54.47 | captain_proton | it'll be about 15 minutes :( |
| 04:54.57 | learner | FASTER! |
| 04:55.00 | learner | *cough* |
| 04:55.17 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 04:55.20 | captain_proton | this is the one with nancy |
| 04:55.45 | captain_proton | melanie haber? |
| 04:55.49 | captain_proton | audrey farber? |
| 04:55.52 | captain_proton | susan underhill? |
| 04:56.54 | JBDiGriz | Would you like some tea? |
| 04:57.05 | learner | yes please |
| 04:58.10 | captain_proton | then it all came rushing back to me like a hot kiss at the end of a wet fist |
| 04:58.56 | JBDiGriz | It looks like a pickle! |
| 05:00.38 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: do you have 'dear friends' ? |
| 05:00.42 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: grr |
| 05:00.44 | JBDiGriz | My roommates in college liked Firesign theater, and so I listened to a lot. |
| 05:01.35 | JBDiGriz | I'd have to check, my FT collection isn't very complete. However, I know someone who would have it. |
| 05:01.53 | captain_proton | you -need- to listen |
| 05:01.56 | captain_proton | its...brilliant |
| 05:02.21 | *** part/#bzflag ChipX86|Coding (chipx86@chipx86.radio.freenode) |
| 05:03.25 | learner | uh oh.. 2.8gb and still shrinking.. :( |
| 05:05.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [-q robert_bu*!*@*] by patlabor221 |
| 05:06.12 | robert_burns | can i speak now? |
| 05:06.19 | robert_burns | great |
| 05:06.29 | robert_burns | you know pat, that was mean |
| 05:06.29 | captain_proton | learner: two minutes now |
| 05:06.37 | patlabor221 | you'll live |
| 05:07.14 | robert_burns | i'm certainly not dying |
| 05:07.46 | captain_proton | NO! Put down that pickle! |
| 05:08.05 | learner | mmmm.. pickle |
| 05:08.16 | robert_burns | this has been a thoroughly enjoyable *cough* conversation, but i have better things to do |
| 05:08.36 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/nick_danger-the_further_adventures_of_nick_danger_private_eye.mp3 |
| 05:08.39 | bryjen | not everyone's IRC client uses @ for ops |
| 05:08.49 | captain_proton | bryjen: yeah, but thats how the protocol uses it |
| 05:09.04 | patlabor221 | Xchat does IIRC |
| 05:09.30 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: The first one just ended! ;-) |
| 05:09.52 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: you obviously are familiar with this one |
| 05:10.14 | JBDiGriz | That's the one I remember from almost every night during college! |
| 05:10.34 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 05:10.36 | captain_proton | 'tis a classic |
| 05:10.57 | captain_proton | i had a head full of ideas and a mouth full of...cotton candy |
| 05:11.48 | JBDiGriz | Pyramid Patchouli, there was only one joker in LA sensitive to wear that scent. |
| 05:13.17 | JBDiGriz | Oh nicky, nicky, nicky, are you alright? |
| 05:13.24 | JBDiGriz | Then stop slapping me! |
| 05:13.55 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Joe Celko helps out cappy with BZDB Variables |
| 05:14.51 | captain_proton | learner: you there? |
| 05:15.58 | patlabor221 | cap I don't have an account on bablyonia that I could ssh all those do I? |
| 05:16.13 | captain_proton | patlabor221: no... |
| 05:16.15 | captain_proton | you could wget |
| 05:16.54 | learner | cap, yes |
| 05:17.02 | captain_proton | listening? |
| 05:17.45 | learner | yes.. shush!!! |
| 05:17.47 | learner | :)))) |
| 05:18.03 | captain_proton | =) |
| 05:18.19 | captain_proton | just wait until i get dear friends uploaded\ |
| 05:18.30 | captain_proton | its like this, but with a religious theme and a LOT more compressed |
| 05:19.24 | bryjen | Joe http://www.celko.com/ ? |
| 05:20.48 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 05:21.12 | MrApathyCream | patlabor221 said one couldn't be stupid here just because they were naturally, so i left and came back as him |
| 05:21.41 | patlabor221 | if you are you have to use artifical intelegence |
| 05:21.46 | MrApathyCream | He writes the 'for smarties' books |
| 05:22.07 | bryjen | no, you can't (or rather don't have to) _act_ stupid if you actually _are_ stupid |
| 05:22.50 | captain_proton | side A of the first record is up - http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/dear_friends/01.mp3 |
| 05:22.53 | patlabor221 | Andre La'Month? |
| 05:23.26 | robert_burns | goodbye all |
| 05:23.34 | bryjen | hmm. if you are stupid, would you be able to properly act stupid, or would you get it wrong... |
| 05:26.00 | MrApathyCream | wasn't that homer's bosses name? |
| 05:26.18 | bryjen | monty - montgomery - burns |
| 05:26.34 | patlabor221 | robbie burns was a poet IIRC |
| 05:26.41 | learner | close enough |
| 05:27.08 | captain_proton | it was like a salt pancake laid upon the body politic of the great nation... |
| 05:27.23 | bryjen | WordNet (r) 1.7: Burns, Robert : celebrated Scottish poet (1759-1796) |
| 05:27.56 | patlabor221 | whoot my R was C |
| 05:28.08 | bryjen | and quite aheaed of his time to be using IRC ;) |
| 05:28.57 | learner | his name was robert paulson |
| 05:30.17 | learner | hehe.. "if the world were flat -- all the chinese would fall off" |
| 05:30.20 | MrApathyCream | monty was roberts son, i guess |
| 05:36.35 | learner | "Oh Nick.. you're such a tool! .. *sob* *sob*" |
| 05:37.00 | JBDiGriz | Have at you! |
| 05:37.13 | JBDiGriz | Gesundheit! |
| 05:37.31 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* |
| 05:39.27 | JBDiGriz | It brings back memories of being 19 again! |
| 05:53.09 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/dear_friends/ |
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| 06:08.06 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 06:08.08 | captain_proton | soggy cheerios |
| 06:28.13 | MrApathyCream | (with burrow) |
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| 06:40.47 | MrApathyCream | anyone for 1.9 xmission? |
| 06:43.37 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* |
| 06:43.48 | MrApathyCream | well, then, bed |
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| 10:56.15 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Viewport (Pygame.py): Oops, accidentally committed a debuggative cruft |
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| 11:50.06 | [dmp] | hi david_v |
| 11:51.05 | [dmp] | david_v: in swedish, do you got any mailhotel (like webhotels) which also (can) do spam-protection? |
| 11:51.08 | [dmp] | *sweden |
| 11:51.25 | david_v | i'd bother about irc servers with spam protection in the first case ;) |
| 11:52.01 | [dmp] | me not understand :-| |
| 11:52.07 | david_v | you spam so much :) |
| 11:52.39 | [dmp] | oh. |
| 11:52.43 | david_v | but no i don't know, i've mainly used (free) web hosting companies, and didn't use much mail features |
| 11:52.47 | [dmp] | Well, at least i sign gpg-sign my spam :-) |
| 11:52.53 | [dmp] | ^but after well |
| 11:53.04 | david_v | do i really care from who the spam is from? :) |
| 11:53.20 | david_v | *from whom |
| 11:53.45 | [dmp] | No. I was just wondering.. Denmark dont have alot of mailhotels who filters/tags spam. or otherwise helps you fight spam |
| 11:53.46 | david_v | hm maybe if you encrypt it... :) |
| 11:53.53 | david_v | encrypted spam would be nice |
| 11:54.43 | [dmp] | Want some on your hotmail or chello ? :-) |
| 11:54.44 | david_v | well i see, but i haven't been around much with webhosting, and nothing at all in the paid zones |
| 11:55.01 | david_v | just direct the mail to /dev/null :) |
| 11:55.10 | david_v | new standard for e-mail addresses you know ;) |
| 11:55.17 | [dmp] | okey, just give me login/pw :-) |
| 11:55.34 | david_v | oh no, the mail should be delivered locally :) |
| 11:56.17 | [dmp] | My mailserver is already based off a database, and im wondering if i should (when i finish..) some email-forwarding-service so people can hide their real email and spam-tagging.. |
| 11:56.43 | [dmp] | I know, thats why i need to transfert it to you. Then i'll do the devliery. Sign. And Encrypted. |
| 11:56.49 | [dmp] | And then i'll say "I didnt do it" .-) |
| 11:57.07 | david_v | hmm :) |
| 11:57.42 | david_v | how would you get in though? even if you had my login you couldn't :) |
| 11:57.53 | [dmp] | "I no nutting." |
| 11:57.58 | david_v | hehehe |
| 11:58.35 | [dmp] | Well, i'll force you to do it for me! ha! |
| 11:58.45 | david_v | ehmmmm :) |
| 11:59.27 | david_v | nonsense? that's nonsense :) we are more serious now than ever before :) |
| 12:00.16 | [dmp] | Oh well, yes. By swedish stardard i guess :) |
| 12:00.35 | [dmp] | (it just had to come..) |
| 12:01.20 | david_v | do you have a button on your keyboard that says "swedish" ? :) |
| 12:03.29 | [dmp] | No, but waitup, ill write a perlscript :-) |
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| 12:14.10 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (4 files in 3 dirs): More Viewport cleanup. Now the renderSequence add/remove cruft is replaced with event observation. This fixes a few things, breaks some others. |
| 12:25.18 | [dmp] | #bzflag It'ss Sat Aug 9 16:22:19 and david_v is swedish! |
| 12:25.35 | [dmp] | dammit, it didnt work properly :) |
| 12:26.47 | david_v | hmm ;) |
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| 12:40.31 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (Texture.py): Fix configureOpenGL viewport bug in Texture.renderDependency(). This seems to be the last of the problems caused by the most recent round of Viewport fixing |
| 12:40.48 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/doc (BUGS): Remove from BUGS |
| 12:45.28 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/doc (TODO): Remove completed/unnecessary items |
| 12:49.48 | gonkulator | the sun is up |
| 12:49.56 | gonkulator | which means I have to disconnect my dialup :( |
| 12:49.59 | gonkulator | later scanline |
| 12:50.12 | scanline | bye gonkulator |
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| 15:31.43 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable (ArraySurface.py): Removing ArraySurface temporarily to fix execute bit |
| 15:31.57 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable (ArraySurface.py): Re-adding |
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| 15:44.30 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable (3 files): |
| 15:44.31 | CIA | Rename the ArraySurface module to Array. This facilitates adding some more generic |
| 15:44.31 | CIA | array geometry code to it, plus ArraySurface.py seems to have an a+x bit stuck on it :P |
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| 16:36.18 | learner | ~d |
| 16:36.48 | learner | ~quol |
| 16:36.57 | learner | ~d |
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| 17:57.22 | bryjen | ~weather kowb |
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| 18:43.04 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Texture support for the VRML drawable, beginning support for texture coordinates |
| 18:44.02 | Patlabor221 | yay |
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| 18:47.05 | scanline | :) |
| 18:47.26 | scanline | Patlabor221: I found out that there was a new version of Blender released at the end of July, with support for texcoords in VRML files |
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| 18:49.37 | Patlabor221 | ahh cool |
| 18:49.57 | Patlabor221 | milkshape exports texture corrds in VRML |
| 18:50.10 | scanline | I should get a copy of that new tank from ya for 'testing' :) |
| 18:50.30 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 18:50.38 | scanline | neato |
| 18:50.45 | Patlabor221 | I can export as VRML so you can see how close it gets |
| 18:50.53 | Patlabor221 | your VRML1 right? |
| 18:50.56 | scanline | yes |
| 18:51.31 | scanline | will still be a bit before I have this loader fully working |
| 18:54.53 | Patlabor221 | well I'm uploading a package with it as an OBJ, VRML1, VRML97 and textures for all the tank colors, and the PSD layerd texture, so you can have it all when your ready. |
| 18:55.29 | scanline | cool |
| 18:57.05 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/NewBZTank.zip |
| 18:57.23 | scanline | thanks |
| 18:57.34 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 18:59.38 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (Texture.py): Better pickling methods for Texture. Now when you pickle a Drawable, its textures get included as dataFile names rather than raw image data |
| 19:00.08 | Patlabor221 | hmmm the VRML1 version opens in my VRML viewer, but the 97 versions does not |
| 19:01.01 | Patlabor221 | hmm it looks very similar to your current file, just dosn't do the Object callouts. |
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| 19:03.29 | scanline | well, it chokes on the windows-style pathnames in the textures when I load it |
| 19:03.31 | scanline | which is a good sign |
| 19:03.42 | Patlabor221 | ahh yeah it would |
| 19:04.01 | Patlabor221 | it's probably refing a BMP too |
| 19:04.04 | scanline | could have the code detect that and work around it, but cleaner just to chop off the leading .\ in the file |
| 19:04.38 | scanline | I should probably just chop out those Texture2 sections entirely, since that will depend on the tank color |
| 19:04.39 | Patlabor221 | well for tanks you don't want the file to spec the texture cus you want to have a dif texture per team |
| 19:04.43 | scanline | but it's fine for testing |
| 19:04.47 | Patlabor221 | heh |
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| 19:05.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+qq ~robert_bu*!*@* Carnage*!*@*] by orwell.freenode.net |
| 19:05.52 | Patlabor221 | WB |
| 19:06.14 | Chestal | why is Carnage +q? |
| 19:06.19 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b ~robert_bu*!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 19:06.24 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b Carnage*!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 19:06.41 | Patlabor221 | he was being stupid |
| 19:07.36 | Patlabor221 | what disturbs me more is his lies about not being LT.D |
| 19:08.00 | Patlabor221 | and the fact that it seems he callenged himself to a match, to posibly raise his ranking. |
| 19:09.10 | scanline | learner: yep? |
| 19:09.24 | learner | put some more goodies up |
| 19:10.03 | scanline | goodies? up? hmm? |
| 19:11.09 | david_v | Patlabor221: what's the proof? (curious) |
| 19:11.19 | david_v | didn't follow the discussion above |
| 19:11.28 | david_v | if there was any... hm |
| 19:15.55 | learner | siggraph |
| 19:16.05 | learner | enjoy |
| 19:16.07 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable (VRML.py): Clean up texture filenames by converting both types of slashes to the local OS's separator, and removing surrounding quotes |
| 19:16.36 | Patlabor221 | His Ip logs on the board show them all from the same ISP, even same subnode |
| 19:16.44 | Patlabor221 | and mail shows them all having the same name |
| 19:17.04 | Patlabor221 | lt.d and droid were registed witht he same mail addy on stats. |
| 19:17.13 | david_v | lt.d and droid yes |
| 19:17.36 | Chestal | since he became Carnage he mostly behaved and was actually being helpful |
| 19:17.39 | scanline | learner: wow :) |
| 19:17.44 | david_v | hmm |
| 19:17.46 | Patlabor221 | generaly yes |
| 19:17.57 | Patlabor221 | but it wories me that he has not just fessed up to it. |
| 19:18.07 | david_v | i haven't seen the other two nicks on Ducati though |
| 19:18.18 | learner | still have to find my 2001 discs |
| 19:18.22 | david_v | could prove the theory further |
| 19:18.25 | Patlabor221 | and it bothers me that as droid he challanged carnage |
| 19:18.40 | Patlabor221 | I don't think he plays as the other 2 any more. |
| 19:18.47 | david_v | hm |
| 19:19.15 | Patlabor221 | I've suspended his LT.D and Droid accounts but I haven't done anything to his Carnage acount cus it's all just suspision. |
| 19:19.19 | learner | yes, ever since the whole accusations started, ltd and droid have disappeared |
| 19:19.34 | Patlabor221 | well he slips up every so often |
| 19:19.56 | Patlabor221 | droid posted in his conspiritors thread |
| 19:20.09 | learner | i mean on the field |
| 19:20.14 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:20.20 | Patlabor221 | I don't think he would ever use those again |
| 19:21.03 | Patlabor221 | he's just on my watch list. |
| 19:22.44 | Patlabor221 | tho he is another person who I think needs to switch to decaf :) |
| 19:27.21 | scanline | Patlabor221: Y and Z axes appear to be flipped on the tank |
| 19:27.30 | Patlabor221 | posibly |
| 19:27.40 | Patlabor221 | lightwave uses a difrent CS |
| 19:28.06 | Patlabor221 | I think it's just a -90 X rot |
| 19:28.14 | scanline | hmm.. and this vrml file has normals in it. Right now it's ignoring that and generating its own, seems to still look pretty good |
| 19:28.40 | scanline | Patlabor221: right.. I was just figuring you might want to do that in the model so this works out of the box with bzflag too |
| 19:28.41 | Patlabor221 | well the normals are from a similar smothing algo, so I would think it would :) |
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| 19:28.50 | Patlabor221 | yeah I should |
| 19:29.00 | scanline | looks awfully nice even without texcoords |
| 19:29.00 | Patlabor221 | well I would have to hook up models in BZ :) |
| 19:29.15 | Patlabor221 | well it's got a tad more detail :) |
| 19:29.18 | scanline | Patlabor221: how hard could that be? :) |
| 19:29.38 | scanline | the bump on the top of the turret looks really nice with this smoothing algorithm |
| 19:29.59 | Patlabor221 | ehh, it's harder then it looks, mostly cus of the dumb ass way BZ loads stuff |
| 19:30.06 | asdf | nhey |
| 19:30.10 | Patlabor221 | had a pain of a time geting that GM missile in there. |
| 19:30.21 | asdf | how you guys doing? |
| 19:30.44 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable (VRML.py): Handle mesh name collisions gracefully. This fixes the bug in which models with multiple unnamed meshes would have all but one mesh removed |
| 19:30.47 | Patlabor221 | 7.65 thanks, and yourself? |
| 19:30.54 | scanline | yellow |
| 19:31.48 | Patlabor221 | ohh I wish I could get to yellow, you are so lucky |
| 19:31.52 | asdf | is chestal here? |
| 19:32.12 | david_v | hi asdf, i feel cowish today |
| 19:32.28 | Patlabor221 | I need 5 more :( |
| 19:32.47 | asdf | whys do you feel cowish today? |
| 19:32.50 | Patlabor221 | actualy I need lunch |
| 19:32.52 | scanline | oh no! you won't meet your quota for this cycle! |
| 19:32.56 | scanline | ooh.. lunch... |
| 19:33.00 | david_v | maybe you can eat me, Pat |
| 19:33.08 | david_v | i might be a cow. who knows |
| 19:33.23 | Patlabor221 | umm, no thanks |
| 19:33.28 | Patlabor221 | I don't know where you have been. |
| 19:33.28 | asdf | id david_v a bot? |
| 19:33.32 | david_v | hehe no |
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| 19:33.56 | david_v | bots may say stupid things, but they would say it in another way :) |
| 19:34.13 | asdf | lol |
| 19:34.26 | david_v | Patlabor221: i'm 100% Swedish. fresh meat |
| 19:34.37 | asdf | oooooooooooh kay |
| 19:34.59 | asdf | does that 100% swedish fresh meat have a little beer with it? |
| 19:35.22 | david_v | i retract my statement. 50% Swedish then :) |
| 19:36.44 | david_v | if you want the beer, go ask another Swede :) |
| 19:36.51 | Patlabor221 | I thought all swedish meat came in ball format |
| 19:37.04 | david_v | oh, the cows are not that fat |
| 19:37.38 | bryjen | mee-tah-balls |
| 19:37.58 | david_v | that dialect... hehe :) |
| 19:38.10 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/extra_media (2 files): Adding the blender and VRML files I have been using to test texcoord-related code |
| 19:50.06 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (10 files in 3 dirs): New tank, yay |
| 19:52.06 | Patlabor221 | so it read? |
| 19:53.16 | scanline | oh, yeah |
| 19:53.28 | scanline | haven't added texcoords quite yet... cleaning up some other things first |
| 19:54.00 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/data (tank.wrl): Manually stick in a MatrixTransform to swap Y and Z |
| 19:54.15 | scanline | Patlabor221: you should add yourself to pybzflag's AUTHORS file for the tank and the teleporter border texture :) |
| 19:57.28 | Patlabor221 | you shoudl use the GM missile :) |
| 19:57.45 | scanline | to cook dinner? |
| 19:58.50 | Patlabor221 | ummm no, to depict the GM moving in the secne |
| 19:59.05 | scanline | bah, pybzflag doesn't even do normal shots yet |
| 19:59.13 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 19:59.15 | Patlabor221 | but when it does :) |
| 19:59.20 | scanline | oh, definitely |
| 19:59.29 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:01.23 | captain_proton | its like diablo getting sidetracked into unicode |
| 20:01.23 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 20:01.29 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Hmm, tanks are easier to drive when they're not inside-out |
| 20:01.34 | scanline | something like that |
| 20:02.01 | scanline | I think I was starting to make the glInterleavedArray-support-stuff more general so it could be used for particles too, when I realized that VRML really should be using it too |
| 20:02.20 | scanline | and somewhere about that same time I was reading the blender changelog and saw that they fixed vrml texcoords |
| 20:02.55 | captain_proton | ah |
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| 20:09.20 | captain_proton | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/jupiter/projects/pybzflag/data/./red.bmp' |
| 20:09.21 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:10.33 | scanline | oh |
| 20:11.48 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/data (tank.wrl): Having a texture name in here is temporary anyway, since the texture depends on the team, but for now at least set it to something that exists |
| 20:15.48 | captain_proton | hmm...lunch |
| 20:15.57 | captain_proton | scanline: did you see? pyg can open files correctly now =) |
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| 20:16.38 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:17.06 | scanline | nice tabs |
| 20:18.30 | scanline | the siggraph gallery from 1999 sure had a different flavor to it |
| 20:19.15 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 20:19.39 | captain_proton | link? |
| 20:19.48 | scanline | it's on on learner's server |
| 20:20.31 | captain_proton | oh...wow |
| 20:21.17 | scanline | seems like most of the items in the '99 gallery are interactive do-widgets or images generated from artifical life simulations |
| 20:21.23 | scanline | the sort of stuff that was popular in 1999 :) |
| 20:22.22 | captain_proton | i remember all those artificial life doodads |
| 20:30.47 | learner | coffee! |
| 20:31.10 | captain_proton | hiya learner |
| 20:31.13 | tea|tree_ | tea! |
| 20:31.21 | scanline | hmm.. coffee... |
| 20:31.24 | tea|tree_ | ;) |
| 20:31.48 | learner | :) |
| 20:35.12 | captain_proton | learner: this directory you've put up is really nifty now |
| 20:36.05 | learner | i'm missing 2001 and 98 still |
| 20:36.20 | learner | not sure where I put those discs |
| 20:36.45 | captain_proton | haha |
| 20:36.53 | captain_proton | someone wrote a sketch on doing the infinite staircase in gl |
| 20:37.03 | captain_proton | and that was 2002? sheesh |
| 20:37.13 | captain_proton | its only been in xscreensaver for...3 years? more? |
| 20:37.20 | learner | :) |
| 20:37.33 | learner | sketches are generally old known stuff |
| 20:38.32 | learner | papers=new courses=popular sketches=cool |
| 20:39.40 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable (VRML.py): No reason not to make this work with convex polygons of any size |
| 20:41.26 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 20:41.31 | captain_proton | neat paper on physically based fire |
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| 20:41.58 | learner | scanline: http://brlcad.org/siggraph/S2002CP/papers/perlin.pdf |
| 20:44.58 | learner | did you guys see the paper on ductile fracture? that was one of the coolest last year |
| 20:46.18 | scanline | learner: looks like a pretty subtle change |
| 20:46.36 | captain_proton | learner: link? |
| 20:47.27 | learner | scanline: yes it is, but relatively simple improvement |
| 20:47.52 | captain_proton | oog |
| 20:47.54 | learner | http://brlcad.org/siggraph/S2002CP/papers/obrien.pdf is the fracture paper -- but you have to see their animation -- it rocks |
| 20:47.54 | captain_proton | galeon crashed |
| 20:48.03 | captain_proton | which section is it in? |
| 20:48.16 | learner | I'm not sure -- trying to find it |
| 20:48.33 | learner | i think it was on the dvd and not on the cd's.. |
| 20:55.21 | captain_proton | neat paper |
| 20:57.00 | learner | hmm.. the video isn't separated out on the 2002 dvd |
| 20:58.11 | learner | aha! |
| 20:58.50 | learner | http://brlcad.org/siggraph/S2002CP/supplemental_material/obrien/ductilefracture.mpg |
| 21:07.28 | scanline | hah, I love how they just stick the figure of gumby being dismembered at the end of the paper :) |
| 21:08.28 | captain_proton | eeek |
| 21:22.19 | captain_proton | these diskies need to arrive so i can relieve myself somewhat |
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| 21:26.11 | learner | relieve yourself? |
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| 21:26.18 | learner | oh.. harddrives, right? |
| 21:26.20 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 21:26.29 | captain_proton | i have a bunch of stuff i can temporarily store on one disk |
| 21:26.29 | learner | away |
| 21:26.48 | captain_proton | and actually... |
| 21:26.57 | captain_proton | i think there's a 10 giger in my machine that isn't powered |
| 21:28.09 | captain_proton | rebootski time |
| 21:35.40 | learner | scanline: if you notice a dead link in any of the stuff, lemme know |
| 21:35.49 | learner | I've found some html in there that's not right that I had to fix |
| 21:36.10 | scanline | ok |
| 21:44.44 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable/VRML (3 files): Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable/VRML added to the repository |
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| 21:48.04 | captain_proton | so my system didn't want to boot with the other disk plugged in |
| 21:48.14 | captain_proton | and i'm not motivated enough to pull them out and check jumpers |
| 22:33.33 | scanline | the sketch on interruptable rendering is interesting |
| 22:34.55 | scanline | not practical for general-purpose rendering on current hardware, but could be a good way to automatically pick a detail level for particle systems and simulations |
| 22:37.11 | captain_proton | link? |
| 22:37.49 | scanline | http://brlcad.org/siggraph/S2002CAA2/content/sketches_and_applications/205-woolley.pdf |
| 22:41.16 | captain_proton | interesting |
| 22:42.29 | scanline | I'd like to know more about their implementation and its limitations.. they don't even say whether it's on a software or hardware rendering system |
| 22:47.48 | captain_proton | probably ray-tracing |
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