| 00:00.06 | Mayhem | csolutions.net |
| 00:00.18 | learnerAtWork | who is that mayhem? |
| 00:00.26 | Mayhem | learnerAtWork: I was seeing packets from there too |
| 00:00.37 | fiberchunks | on brlcad right now |
| 00:01.03 | fiberchunks | I am, I mean |
| 00:01.09 | learnerAtWork | are you "king"? |
| 00:01.14 | fiberchunks | no |
| 00:01.27 | fiberchunks | and yes, I am running a patched client |
| 00:02.02 | learnerAtWork | would someone else connect too.. (cap?) |
| 00:02.08 | Mayhem | learnerAtWork: i will, one sec |
| 00:03.27 | Mayhem | learnerAtWork: what have you done to your server? |
| 00:03.49 | scanline | ~whereis navi.picogui.org |
| 00:03.50 | Noodlebot | 12.252.175.3 is probably located in parsippany, new jersey, us at 40.86 latitude, -74.41, longitude |
| 00:04.01 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:05.06 | learnerAtWork | mayhem: it's koth-patched stock 1.9 (built from cvs earlier today) |
| 00:06.15 | fiberchunks | yah, no king declaration |
| 00:06.16 | Mayhem | we aren't getting the nr problem |
| 00:06.24 | fiberchunks | true too |
| 00:06.44 | learnerAtWork | odd |
| 00:06.57 | learnerAtWork | when the server restarted, I got another connection from csolutions.net |
| 00:07.05 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 00:07.23 | learnerAtWork | someone must be watching the list server |
| 00:07.33 | fiberchunks | for 1.9? |
| 00:07.35 | Mayhem | aha, I see I'm using a slightly old cvs snap |
| 00:07.49 | learnerAtWork | where is the list server held? |
| 00:07.50 | Mayhem | learnerAtWork: you sure that isn't the list server? |
| 00:07.59 | learnerAtWork | no, mayhem I'm not sure |
| 00:07.59 | fiberchunks | dunno, good point |
| 00:10.30 | captain_proton | eep |
| 00:11.17 | scanline | squeeble! |
| 00:11.28 | Mayhem | captain_proton: ? |
| 00:11.58 | breadhat | by a large penguin |
| 00:11.59 | fiberchunks | invisible enemies? |
| 00:12.19 | captain_proton | invisible enemies |
| 00:13.37 | captain_proton | someone care to join me at brlcad? |
| 00:13.56 | Mayhem | indeed... |
| 00:14.43 | fiberchunks | sure |
| 00:15.14 | captain_proton | bzflag.net:5155 |
| 00:16.07 | fiberchunks | that was neat -- who is maxwell, and where is this silver hammer ;) ? |
| 00:16.15 | Mayhem | captain_proton: there was initially a problem with PlayerUpdate not being sent because of a bad case statement. did you fix that earlier? |
| 00:18.01 | Mayhem | ok, so you obviously haven't... |
| 00:18.26 | fiberchunks | weird that we didn't see this on learners server though |
| 00:18.39 | Mayhem | dunno why learners is doing that now |
| 00:19.18 | fiberchunks | said it was just plain 1.9 with koth too |
| 00:19.31 | captain_proton | Mayhem: where is this case statement? |
| 00:19.33 | Mayhem | hmm, how can I explain tis... can't do a diff :( |
| 00:20.00 | fiberchunks | line number of file? |
| 00:20.03 | Mayhem | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.09 | Mayhem | about 6336 |
| 00:20.21 | Mayhem | sry 6366 |
| 00:20.36 | captain_proton | bzfs.cxx? |
| 00:20.41 | Mayhem | yes |
| 00:21.08 | Mayhem | MsgPlayerUpdate is supposed to fall through and be sent further down, but MsgNewKing is now in the way |
| 00:21.25 | captain_proton | ah i see |
| 00:21.28 | Mayhem | so MsgNewKing is sent constantly, instead of PlayerUpdate |
| 00:21.46 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 00:21.56 | Mayhem | Looked quite interesting on a packet capture :) |
| 00:22.01 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 00:22.25 | Mayhem | I found that about 2 hours ago, but its only part of the problem |
| 00:22.40 | captain_proton | lets try with that |
| 00:23.00 | captain_proton | join mine again? |
| 00:25.44 | Mayhem | I have a theory on the second problem too... |
| 00:25.45 | fiberchunks | debug spew enabled? |
| 00:25.52 | captain_proton | recompiling |
| 00:25.54 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 00:27.01 | captain_proton | try joining |
| 00:27.30 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 00:27.43 | Mayhem | yuk |
| 00:27.55 | *** join/#bzflag gnudukez (~glibersat@ALille-209-1-1-233.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 00:28.09 | fiberchunks | sumthins broke |
| 00:29.09 | Mayhem | captain_proton: I think kingIndex is never changing from 0 |
| 00:29.34 | fiberchunks | I can't connect |
| 00:29.46 | Mayhem | when a player joins they are informed that the king is 0, but annointKing is never called |
| 00:31.46 | captain_proton | i wonder if this can be fixed by initializing kingIndex to 1 |
| 00:31.53 | captain_proton | since the first player is always 1 :) |
| 00:33.06 | Mayhem | or checking if it is 0 when there is at least one player, and then calling annoitKing, which will do the rest |
| 00:33.24 | Mayhem | the player must be alive though, as I discovered |
| 00:34.05 | captain_proton | join |
| 00:38.05 | fiberchunks | q: the koth patch gets applied to bzfs.cxx too yes? or is it just client goodies? |
| 00:38.16 | Mayhem | fiberchunks: it is both |
| 00:38.26 | Mayhem | it touches lots of files :( |
| 00:38.42 | fiberchunks | mayhem -- hrm, that's odd -- my bzfs didn't have the lines you were mentioning to cap |
| 00:39.01 | Mayhem | probaly different positions, was moving stuff around |
| 00:39.02 | captain_proton | try connecting |
| 00:39.09 | fiberchunks | never mind |
| 00:42.28 | fiberchunks | hrm, well, rogues have always looked greyish to me -- totally grey, that is -- now it's a black tank with grey turret |
| 00:42.36 | fiberchunks | pretty snazzy really |
| 00:42.55 | Mayhem | must be your lighting settings... |
| 00:43.02 | fiberchunks | they've never changed ;) |
| 00:43.45 | fiberchunks | lemme go see with g0 |
| 00:44.19 | captain_proton | join? |
| 00:47.13 | fiberchunks | hrm -- was I nr that whole time? |
| 00:48.05 | Mayhem | fiberchunks: no, you came and went |
| 00:48.29 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 00:49.39 | captain_proton | someone join |
| 00:52.21 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-107-181.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 00:53.01 | Mayhem | captain_proton: I'm not seeing a NewKing packet on join anymore |
| 00:53.10 | Mayhem | hi JB |
| 00:53.27 | JBDiGriz | hi all, what's happening with 1.9? |
| 00:53.42 | Mayhem | We are debugging the KOTH patch currently |
| 00:54.05 | fiberchunks | yessir |
| 00:54.10 | fiberchunks | hrm, laggy |
| 00:54.32 | fiberchunks | doug is currently harassing ppl in gentoo ;) |
| 00:54.38 | JBDiGriz | Any changes to the patch so far? |
| 00:55.21 | Mayhem | captain_proton: what is a CK packet? |
| 00:56.04 | Mayhem | JBDiGriz: I think we have nearly made it work as intended :) |
| 00:56.34 | Mayhem | instead of being full of evilness |
| 00:57.18 | JBDiGriz | I was just adding the current patch to the cvs download, so I wanted to make sure there wasn't anything missing. |
| 01:00.30 | captain_proton | ck? dunno |
| 01:02.55 | captain_proton | try joining now? |
| 01:04.33 | captain_proton | wtf |
| 01:04.35 | Mayhem | I'm getting a CK instead of a NK as part of the join |
| 01:05.02 | Mayhem | just before the server welcome message |
| 01:05.31 | fiberchunks | question, how are you seeing the packet data? |
| 01:05.55 | Mayhem | ethereal |
| 01:06.01 | fiberchunks | thanks |
| 01:06.08 | Mayhem | damn good program :) |
| 01:06.14 | fiberchunks | yes it is ;) |
| 01:06.39 | fiberchunks | emerging now |
| 01:07.44 | captain_proton | ck... |
| 01:07.59 | Mayhem | I don't know what changes you've made, so I can't look at it myself |
| 01:08.16 | Mayhem | captain_proton: are you seeing any NK packets? |
| 01:08.21 | captain_proton | aha, change the message number to be 636b |
| 01:08.32 | captain_proton | err |
| 01:08.34 | captain_proton | 6e6b |
| 01:09.30 | Mayhem | const uint16_t MsgNewKing = 0x6e6b; // 'nk' |
| 01:09.37 | Mayhem | in Protocol.h |
| 01:09.58 | Mayhem | you want me to change mine and recompile? |
| 01:10.17 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:10.28 | Mayhem | change it *to* CK? |
| 01:10.34 | captain_proton | no |
| 01:10.37 | fiberchunks | which, in Protocol.h? |
| 01:10.47 | Mayhem | ^^^^ is what is in my Protocol.h |
| 01:10.48 | captain_proton | yours didn't? |
| 01:10.59 | captain_proton | bizzare, bizzare |
| 01:11.01 | Mayhem | There was a failed hunk on patching that file |
| 01:11.07 | Mayhem | I had to do this manually |
| 01:11.13 | fiberchunks | yes, same here |
| 01:11.15 | Mayhem | ...explains it |
| 01:11.38 | captain_proton | connect |
| 01:14.03 | *** join/#bzflag Speedy2 (johnny@max-fw-152.dallas.net) |
| 01:14.08 | captain_proton | aha |
| 01:14.17 | captain_proton | so it assigned king=0 because we were both dead |
| 01:15.26 | Mayhem | great... |
| 01:15.40 | Mayhem | methinks if you are dead doesn't matter that much... |
| 01:15.55 | Mayhem | the king is dead, long live the king |
| 01:16.40 | captain_proton | join? :) |
| 01:17.09 | fiberchunks | c0ompiling |
| 01:19.24 | captain_proton | rejoin :) |
| 01:25.28 | fiberchunks | very nice work |
| 01:25.40 | Mayhem | gradually ironing out the bugs... |
| 01:26.23 | fiberchunks | yuppers -- I like that game style -- nice |
| 01:26.36 | fiberchunks | why in the hell is it taking so long for a message to appear in this channel? |
| 01:26.55 | fiberchunks | it's like my first line gets buffered, and then a new line flushes the buffer |
| 01:27.49 | Mayhem | hmm, might be server lag |
| 01:28.14 | fiberchunks | only in this channel, though (#bzflag) |
| 01:28.14 | fiberchunks | d |
| 01:31.09 | Mayhem | Ok, way past bedtime for me. Best of luck with the patch peoples :) |
| 01:31.52 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 01:38.24 | *** join/#bzflag patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-64-173-106-188.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 01:38.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 01:38.39 | patlabor221 | ooooo I found something that windows does NOT like |
| 01:38.41 | patlabor221 | not at all |
| 01:39.20 | captain_proton | whats that |
| 01:39.38 | patlabor221 | take a laptop that is in hybernation |
| 01:39.44 | patlabor221 | running XP |
| 01:39.53 | patlabor221 | replace the drive with one that has linux on it |
| 01:39.55 | patlabor221 | and wake it up |
| 01:40.02 | captain_proton | eek |
| 01:40.21 | patlabor221 | yeah it wasn't happy |
| 01:40.24 | patlabor221 | there was blue |
| 01:40.29 | patlabor221 | lots of blue |
| 01:40.59 | patlabor221 | I think I heard it crying softly too |
| 01:41.28 | captain_proton | heh |
| 01:49.53 | fiberchunks | asldkj |
| 01:50.20 | fiberchunks | whoops |
| 01:50.24 | fiberchunks | d |
| 01:50.26 | fiberchunks | jeez |
| 01:50.37 | *** part/#bzflag fiberchunks (~frobozzpf@237.14.252.64.snet.net) |
| 01:50.41 | *** join/#bzflag fiberchunks (~frobozzpf@237.14.252.64.snet.net) |
| 01:50.43 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 01:50.48 | fiberchunks | well, that's better |
| 01:55.27 | patlabor221 | what is libPam? |
| 01:55.43 | fiberchunks | authentication module |
| 01:55.49 | patlabor221 | what's it do? |
| 01:55.50 | fiberchunks | erps, library |
| 01:56.08 | patlabor221 | so I need it? |
| 01:56.15 | fiberchunks | login: jeffm password: foobar <<< checks all this out and sets auths |
| 01:56.18 | fiberchunks | yes |
| 01:56.21 | fiberchunks | you need it |
| 01:56.28 | patlabor221 | opps |
| 01:56.36 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:57.40 | patlabor221 | I'm gonna say big opps |
| 01:57.51 | fiberchunks | can't login? |
| 01:58.08 | patlabor221 | no I'm loged in |
| 01:58.18 | patlabor221 | can't apt get anything else |
| 01:58.20 | patlabor221 | it's borked |
| 01:58.56 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:59.18 | bzgirl | didt you have libpam already? |
| 01:59.24 | patlabor221 | I did |
| 01:59.27 | patlabor221 | sorta |
| 01:59.28 | patlabor221 | kinda |
| 01:59.35 | bzgirl | upgrading to sid again> |
| 01:59.38 | patlabor221 | it would allways geek on configuring it |
| 01:59.44 | bzgirl | ahh |
| 01:59.51 | patlabor221 | so I thought I would remove it and put it back |
| 01:59.53 | patlabor221 | it won't go back |
| 02:01.26 | patlabor221 | I figured it was a stupid thing to do when it said "type, Yes, do as I say!" |
| 02:04.17 | patlabor221 | wow, I got it back :) |
| 02:05.13 | fiberchunks | good man ;) |
| 02:06.50 | patlabor221 | what do you think the package is for X? |
| 02:07.25 | fiberchunks | xfree, perhaps |
| 02:07.49 | fiberchunks | or just plain X, or XFree86, something like that |
| 02:08.13 | bzgirl | xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:08.50 | patlabor221 | apt-cache search for x is NOT a good thing |
| 02:08.53 | fiberchunks | there it is |
| 02:09.06 | bzgirl | apt-cache search x | less |
| 02:09.11 | fiberchunks | bzgirl to the rescue ;) |
| 02:09.18 | patlabor221 | I did that |
| 02:09.21 | patlabor221 | didn't see it |
| 02:09.22 | bzgirl | but x is a common letter :) |
| 02:09.28 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:09.32 | bzgirl | apt-cache search xserver | less |
| 02:10.06 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: you run fluxbox right? |
| 02:10.11 | patlabor221 | she is sooooo smart |
| 02:10.13 | fiberchunks | yes ma'am |
| 02:10.19 | bzgirl | do you have KDE libries installed? |
| 02:10.29 | fiberchunks | hrm -- I think so, why |
| 02:10.41 | bzgirl | how do you get the kde panel in flux? |
| 02:10.58 | bzgirl | the gnome works fine: exec gnome-panel & |
| 02:11.21 | bzgirl | but pat prefers the big panel of justice |
| 02:11.22 | fiberchunks | oh, well now there you stumped me -- cause I don't use anything kde -- it's 'just in case' I need to compile a qt / kde app I _just can't_ live without ;) |
| 02:12.56 | fiberchunks | bah! |
| 02:13.30 | patlabor221 | gnome has allways been buggy |
| 02:13.41 | patlabor221 | for me at least |
| 02:13.53 | patlabor221 | tho linux hates me so I just go with what I can get running |
| 02:14.31 | bzgirl | :) |
| 02:15.15 | fiberchunks | patlabor221> you may (although I dunno if deb has this), wanna try xfce4 - it's lightweight, yet snazzy, and easy to configure |
| 02:15.23 | fiberchunks | no pretty icons on the desktop though :\ |
| 02:15.44 | patlabor221 | I am going to try the flux |
| 02:15.53 | fiberchunks | oooooo, good man! ;) |
| 02:16.30 | fiberchunks | fbdesk has support for iconage on the desktop for flux, tho I have not tried it yet |
| 02:17.26 | patlabor221 | well I still have to install it |
| 02:18.05 | fiberchunks | once you get used to it, I do believe you'll hate the unecessary crap that most DMs have |
| 02:18.14 | fiberchunks | and flux is _uber_ configurable |
| 02:18.17 | patlabor221 | you don't know me very well do you :) |
| 02:18.17 | fiberchunks | and very fast |
| 02:18.26 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hehe |
| 02:18.30 | patlabor221 | ooo superblocks, those just sound very very cool |
| 02:18.31 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 02:18.47 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: he loves unecessary clutter |
| 02:19.04 | patlabor221 | have you SEEEN my desktop? |
| 02:19.04 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> :) |
| 02:19.12 | patlabor221 | 11.5 gigs |
| 02:19.17 | fiberchunks | don't let him fool you, he cleaned it recently |
| 02:19.29 | patlabor221 | that's post cleaning |
| 02:19.30 | fiberchunks | and he has 2 monitors just to have the clutter spread out :) |
| 02:19.40 | fiberchunks | so it 'looks' neat |
| 02:19.52 | patlabor221 | I can hook up 3 |
| 02:20.39 | fiberchunks | lol -- the deception of clutter-spread |
| 02:21.04 | patlabor221 | least I have a desk that holds 3 monttors :) |
| 02:22.35 | fiberchunks | true, true -- I still haven't laminated my custom desk jobbie that I built -- it's just bare chipboard ;) |
| 02:22.47 | bzgirl | patlabor221: if you do :kicker & you will get your panel |
| 02:25.04 | patlabor221 | ewww ugly fonts |
| 02:25.07 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 02:25.12 | patlabor221 | yay X works tho |
| 02:25.21 | fiberchunks | read the FDU howto |
| 02:25.21 | patlabor221 | do I dare do the sid update |
| 02:25.34 | fiberchunks | aka 'font deuglification howto' |
| 02:25.41 | bzgirl | try building bz first! |
| 02:25.49 | bzgirl | before you upgrade |
| 02:25.50 | patlabor221 | good call good call |
| 02:26.11 | bzgirl | you might need some Gl libs |
| 02:26.21 | bzgirl | i cant remeber now what i installed |
| 02:26.42 | fiberchunks | gl-devel perhaps? |
| 02:26.50 | fiberchunks | need the headers, iirc |
| 02:27.01 | patlabor221 | I think I got those from the nvidias |
| 02:27.07 | fiberchunks | you did |
| 02:27.26 | fiberchunks | you installed the nvidia drivers from their site then? |
| 02:27.43 | patlabor221 | from some bouncy debs |
| 02:27.55 | fiberchunks | hrm, what nvidia version? |
| 02:28.02 | fiberchunks | and both the kernel / glx ? |
| 02:28.18 | fiberchunks | ah, nm, you can cross that bridge when you get to it |
| 02:29.04 | bzgirl | burn that bridge you mean :) |
| 02:29.11 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 02:29.44 | fiberchunks | old nastiness to do to n00bs: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda |
| 02:30.10 | fiberchunks | I hate it when people bring that up in help channels, or even better: cd /; rm -rf * |
| 02:31.29 | bzgirl | usually theres someone sensible around to tell them not to |
| 02:31.37 | bzgirl | but thats just plain mean |
| 02:31.48 | patlabor221 | wheeee internal compiler error |
| 02:32.21 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you're not having a good time with linux are you? |
| 02:32.27 | patlabor221 | it hates me |
| 02:32.32 | captain_proton | patlabor221: try turning off the optimization flags to the compiler |
| 02:32.41 | fiberchunks | bzgirl: yeah, I know -- but I've personally seen like 3 ppl go - wtf? after asking seriously how to fix something on their partitions... |
| 02:32.42 | patlabor221 | how? |
| 02:33.19 | captain_proton | um... |
| 02:33.26 | captain_proton | edit configure.in and get rid of all the -O2s |
| 02:34.29 | patlabor221 | then rerun configure? |
| 02:34.45 | captain_proton | then rerun autogen |
| 02:34.47 | captain_proton | then rerun configure |
| 02:35.53 | patlabor221 | what aobut /O2? |
| 02:36.02 | captain_proton | thats for windows i think |
| 02:36.13 | patlabor221 | or O3 |
| 02:36.29 | captain_proton | just get rid of -Ox |
| 02:36.33 | patlabor221 | k |
| 02:37.30 | patlabor221 | YES, autogen restarted the machine!!!! |
| 02:37.47 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 02:38.10 | fiberchunks | man, linux _really_ doesn't like you |
| 02:38.23 | patlabor221 | I never did anything to it |
| 02:38.39 | fiberchunks | you piss off torvalds or something? |
| 02:38.55 | captain_proton | you think linux hates him, just hand him HP-UX |
| 02:39.01 | patlabor221 | maybe I am the anti-linus |
| 02:39.12 | patlabor221 | cap I've used that |
| 02:39.12 | fiberchunks | heee |
| 02:39.14 | patlabor221 | in school |
| 02:39.21 | captain_proton | patlabor221: its dirty |
| 02:39.26 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:39.31 | patlabor221 | it is |
| 02:39.52 | patlabor221 | that was back in the day of asembly on a VAX |
| 02:41.08 | scanline | patlabor221: yikes.. you sure you don't have a loose DIMM or something? |
| 02:41.50 | fiberchunks | is this the box with the potentially sketchy hardware in it? |
| 02:42.00 | patlabor221 | I've replaced it ALL |
| 02:42.12 | patlabor221 | I can't even get BZ to build on asgard |
| 02:42.12 | scanline | did you remember the excorsism? |
| 02:42.21 | patlabor221 | I used 2 chickens |
| 02:42.26 | scanline | hmm, that should be enough... |
| 02:42.57 | scanline | maybe it's the type of excorsism that needs holy water rather than chickens? |
| 02:43.17 | patlabor221 | but holy water burns |
| 02:43.22 | scanline | true |
| 02:43.32 | scanline | get some of the new non-flammable holy water |
| 02:43.34 | scanline | :p |
| 02:43.49 | patlabor221 | and I'm not allowed in the churches anymore, ever since "the incendent" |
| 02:45.08 | patlabor221 | no more -O anything and still internal compiler error |
| 02:45.18 | patlabor221 | in net |
| 02:46.21 | captain_proton | eew |
| 02:48.35 | patlabor221 | it's not liking min<size_t>{const size_t ..... in stl_algobase.h |
| 02:49.18 | captain_proton | thats bad |
| 02:49.38 | *** join/#bzflag michaelh (Mouse@172-118.dynamic.visi.com) |
| 02:49.47 | patlabor221 | g++ version 2.95.4 |
| 02:49.59 | captain_proton | you should upgrade to 3.x |
| 02:50.12 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 02:50.19 | patlabor221 | I will atempt to aptifcy |
| 02:50.43 | michaelh | ? |
| 02:51.26 | patlabor221 | hmm it says I have it, but it's not using it |
| 02:51.29 | patlabor221 | odd |
| 02:58.54 | patlabor221 | how does it know what compiler to use? |
| 02:59.09 | captain_proton | probably your path |
| 02:59.11 | captain_proton | or it named 3 'gcc3' or something |
| 02:59.44 | patlabor221 | well as soon it's it's done updating I'll check it out |
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| 03:04.04 | patlabor221 | with 2 machines installing stuff at the same time, and all this text scrolling, I feel soo... soo matrixy |
| 03:04.12 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 03:05.37 | patlabor221 | I hope if found the nick on the laptop |
| 03:05.47 | patlabor221 | it made a beep and the light came on |
| 03:07.01 | patlabor221 | yay not ugly fonts |
| 03:12.18 | patlabor221 | ok cap where would I look for that path thingy? |
| 03:14.22 | patlabor221 | ahhhh ha |
| 03:14.46 | patlabor221 | how do I change a symlink? |
| 03:15.38 | captain_proton | rm the old, create the new |
| 03:16.08 | patlabor221 | how do I make a new one again? |
| 03:16.16 | patlabor221 | symlink name thing? |
| 03:16.27 | captain_proton | ln -s <file> <symlink> |
| 03:17.59 | patlabor221 | gack, there is a gcc-3.0 but not a g++3.0 |
| 03:18.08 | patlabor221 | ther is a g++-2.95 |
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| 03:30.42 | patlabor221 | ok how do I make fluxbox look like OSX :) |
| 03:31.03 | fiberchunks | gcc-config, iirc |
| 03:31.04 | fiberchunks | gnite |
| 03:31.19 | captain_proton | patlabor221: haha |
| 03:32.06 | patlabor221 | there has to be a way to skin the thing |
| 03:32.54 | captain_proton | fluxbox doesn't do pixmap themes |
| 03:33.14 | patlabor221 | then how do I thow a desktop image back there? |
| 03:33.30 | patlabor221 | I got my "big panel of justice" as the nice lady called it |
| 03:33.51 | patlabor221 | actualy this theme isn't bad,I just need to tweak colors |
| 03:33.57 | patlabor221 | the right click thing is kinda coo |
| 03:34.19 | patlabor221 | ahhh I see styles |
| 03:36.56 | scanline | fluxbox doesn't have anything built-in for setting the background, you'll want to use a program like Esetroot |
| 03:37.08 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 03:37.13 | patlabor221 | that is what I was starting to see |
| 03:37.30 | patlabor221 | tho somehow I got it to use TWM and it's all ugly and I can't change it |
| 03:37.59 | patlabor221 | ahh got it back |
| 03:38.12 | patlabor221 | see I can be made to learn :) |
| 03:38.23 | captain_proton | twm is good |
| 03:38.32 | patlabor221 | this one was UGLY |
| 03:38.38 | patlabor221 | sawfish not so bad |
| 03:39.13 | patlabor221 | now there has to be a way to get it to start kicker everytime |
| 03:39.14 | captain_proton | twm is damn fugly |
| 03:39.15 | captain_proton | but good |
| 03:39.46 | patlabor221 | I grew up with a Macintosh, I am used to prety not GOOD |
| 03:40.28 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:41.08 | scanline | someone should bug kieth packard for that patch to make twm translucent :) |
| 03:41.34 | captain_proton | scanline: except that patch's code is so gross |
| 03:41.43 | scanline | oh, I'm sure it is |
| 03:41.49 | scanline | but then you'd get to see less of twm! |
| 03:41.51 | patlabor221 | there is a thing called Xsetroot, could that be the screen thingy to gimme a background? |
| 03:42.02 | scanline | yes and no.. |
| 03:42.21 | scanline | xsetroot will set your background, but it has a rather limited set of file formats it supports |
| 03:42.26 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 03:42.48 | scanline | Esetroot or imagemagick are better at that job |
| 03:46.50 | patlabor221 | hmm I have it open in imagemagick, how do I set it? |
| 03:47.26 | scanline | no need to actually open it in imagemagick.. |
| 03:47.31 | scanline | try "display -window root blahblah.jpeg" |
| 03:48.32 | patlabor221 | thanks |
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| 03:57.17 | patlabor221 | hmmm there must be something else that is using gcc 2.95, I did gcc g++ and gcov |
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| 04:06.48 | PatlaborFlux | phear my fluxbox kde hybrid monster!!!! |
| 04:08.04 | patlabor221 | what else could still be using gcc 2.95? |
| 04:08.10 | patlabor221 | I know I am soo close |
| 04:08.16 | patlabor221 | soo very very close |
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| 04:11.38 | NonDeer | eek michaelh is a ghost |
| 04:12.03 | michaelh2 | how is that possible? |
| 04:13.07 | patlabor221 | so ghost it |
| 04:13.17 | michaelh2 | how? |
| 04:13.26 | patlabor221 | I think it's /oOooooOOOOOoOOO |
| 04:13.31 | patlabor221 | did you register it? |
| 04:13.36 | michaelh2 | nope |
| 04:13.46 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 04:13.48 | patlabor221 | oh then it goes like this |
| 04:13.57 | *** kick/#bzflag [michaelh!~jeffm@adsl-64-173-106-188.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by patlabor221 (fabam!) |
| 04:14.02 | michaelh2 | ah so! |
| 04:14.15 | captain_proton | still won't let michaelh2 change his nick until the ghost pings out |
| 04:14.32 | michaelh2 | Something was going full tilt with my modem too, until I rebooted |
| 04:14.41 | patlabor221 | shhhhhhhh your not suposed to tell im |
| 04:14.43 | michaelh2 | everytime I connect with modem, it was going and going...... |
| 04:15.32 | michaelh2 | running an FTP server, webserver, SQL server -- I thought perhaps it was one of those :) |
| 04:15.39 | fiberchunks | fabam ? :) |
| 04:15.54 | captain_proton | woooooobup |
| 04:16.12 | fiberchunks | evening again, yall |
| 04:16.23 | fiberchunks | get the koth stuff operating at full capacity cap? |
| 04:16.33 | captain_proton | no |
| 04:16.40 | captain_proton | but a good friend finally replied to my email |
| 04:16.52 | captain_proton | and i get to see him in a week (haven't seen him for over a year) |
| 04:17.01 | fiberchunks | congratulations then :) |
| 04:17.11 | michaelh2 | but you aren't seeing your bad friend still? |
| 04:17.40 | fiberchunks | ooo, chinese checkers |
| 04:17.52 | captain_proton | not chinese checkers |
| 04:17.53 | captain_proton | go ;) |
| 04:17.56 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 04:18.04 | captain_proton | we're just pawns in his diabolical game of checkers! |
| 04:18.09 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 04:18.51 | patlabor221 | fiber and cap must listen to this http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/eddie%20izzard/Eddie%20Izzard%20-%20Dressed%20to%20Kill%2011%20-%20Encore.mp3 |
| 04:19.25 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: do you login with gdm into flux? or use startx from console? |
| 04:20.13 | fiberchunks | startx |
| 04:20.18 | fiberchunks | no init 5 here, thanks :) |
| 04:20.41 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> why you ask? |
| 04:23.19 | patlabor221 | blurry bob |
| 04:24.10 | captain_proton | haha |
| 04:24.27 | fiberchunks | hehe |
| 04:25.25 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: need to know the name of the file to stick commands you want x to run |
| 04:25.37 | fiberchunks | .xinitrc, iirc |
| 04:25.40 | bzgirl | like aterm -e irssi |
| 04:25.55 | fiberchunks | oh, for fluxbox you mean? |
| 04:25.56 | bzgirl | no, gdm dosnet read .xinitrc |
| 04:26.00 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 04:26.10 | fiberchunks | hrm -- |
| 04:26.21 | bzgirl | its Xsession or xsession or something like that |
| 04:26.33 | fiberchunks | well, last I remember (though I don't use it), fluxbox has it's own, albeit minimal, session management stuff |
| 04:26.41 | fiberchunks | and that would be Xsession |
| 04:27.46 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> though, on my gentoo system, it seems that /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc is parsed if nothing else exists |
| 04:28.39 | fiberchunks | startup=$HOME/.xsession << from /etc/X11/xdm/ |
| 04:28.53 | fiberchunks | whoops, /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession |
| 04:29.16 | fiberchunks | je suis le president du Burundi! |
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| 04:34.39 | patlabor221 | you say 'erbs we say herbs... cus it's got a fen H in it! |
| 04:34.44 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 04:35.02 | fiberchunks | it's not a good dream ... but it's as far as we've got so far |
| 04:35.29 | fiberchunks | he is a funny dude |
| 04:35.41 | patlabor221 | yes he is |
| 04:38.02 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: ok thnks |
| 04:38.09 | captain_proton | eep |
| 04:38.34 | patlabor221 | wow |
| 04:38.41 | patlabor221 | she just said one sentance to me |
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| 04:38.53 | captain_proton | wb bzgirl |
| 04:39.15 | bzgirl | thanks..i got cut off :( |
| 04:39.31 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:39.39 | captain_proton | i just realized that this song has some strange lyrics |
| 04:39.51 | captain_proton | "its a crazy world, and you're a messed up bitch"....but it sounds so happy |
| 04:40.55 | bzgirl | what band is that? |
| 04:41.03 | captain_proton | my favorite |
| 04:41.19 | learner | britney spears??! |
| 04:41.27 | captain_proton | no |
| 04:41.34 | captain_proton | the band is called "my favorite" |
| 04:45.43 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 04:46.14 | fiberchunks | so, I'm going to N. Carolina on thursday, anyone in that neck of the woods? If so, what's the weather down there? |
| 04:49.30 | patlabor221 | I have allways wonderd, If I ever meet anyone you all in real life, would I be able to use your real names :) |
| 04:49.56 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 04:50.06 | fiberchunks | that'd be funny -- heya jeff^H^H^H^H I mean patlabor |
| 04:50.25 | patlabor221 | I would shout , you cap, way before , hey davy |
| 04:50.41 | fiberchunks | heh, nicknames for nicknames |
| 04:50.53 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:50.57 | patlabor221 | your just fiber |
| 04:51.10 | patlabor221 | I would not even know how to pronounce nidhoggr |
| 04:51.19 | captain_proton | fiber, cap, pat, mac.... :) |
| 04:51.29 | patlabor221 | and Tim |
| 04:51.40 | fiberchunks | lol -- the only one without a nick ;) |
| 04:52.22 | patlabor221 | well and doug |
| 04:52.33 | fiberchunks | breadhat? |
| 04:52.37 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:52.47 | fiberchunks | he was in gentoo tonite as bzdoug |
| 04:52.54 | patlabor221 | yeah he double logs |
| 04:53.00 | patlabor221 | he's in noodlebot too |
| 04:53.17 | captain_proton | doug is just "baka" |
| 04:53.22 | patlabor221 | there are multple davids aren't there? |
| 04:53.44 | fiberchunks | who is DB7654321? is that mac? |
| 04:53.52 | captain_proton | me, mac = david |
| 04:53.56 | captain_proton | david_v, but i dunno who that is |
| 04:54.04 | patlabor221 | what is chestals real name? |
| 04:54.08 | fiberchunks | no no, MAC |
| 04:54.10 | captain_proton | frank |
| 04:54.11 | fiberchunks | not mac |
| 04:54.16 | fiberchunks | frank thilo, iirc |
| 04:55.12 | patlabor221 | I could not call spif his real name, it's too long |
| 04:55.14 | patlabor221 | and spiff works |
| 04:55.16 | patlabor221 | nor derv |
| 04:55.34 | patlabor221 | I don't know Chiks name |
| 04:56.20 | patlabor221 | or a goodly number of those bzbb people realy |
| 04:56.27 | fiberchunks | mmm hmm |
| 04:56.30 | fiberchunks | me either |
| 04:57.17 | fiberchunks | cap +/or pat: does Tim maintain the wiki? there are oodles of python errors there, when you try to do certain things |
| 04:57.48 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: sourceforge has a very old python |
| 04:57.53 | captain_proton | on the web servers anyway |
| 04:57.59 | fiberchunks | oh, is that hosted on sf? |
| 04:58.17 | captain_proton | yah |
| 04:58.26 | fiberchunks | ah, didn't realize that |
| 04:58.47 | fiberchunks | yes, they're using like 1.5 or some ridiculous thing |
| 04:58.58 | captain_proton | we put in a support request ages ago, they basically said "whenever we get around to it" |
| 04:59.54 | fiberchunks | ah, how nice |
| 05:00.13 | fiberchunks | is that like anon cvs sucking, and they'll respond: 'whenever we get around to it?' |
| 05:00.20 | captain_proton | kinda |
| 05:00.27 | captain_proton | except this is lower priority than anoncvs |
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| 05:00.36 | fiberchunks | oh, absolutely :) |
| 05:00.55 | fiberchunks | patlabor221> here you go: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mameox/ |
| 05:01.10 | patlabor221 | ooo mame |
| 05:01.13 | Chikorita | :) |
| 05:01.14 | patlabor221 | hello chik |
| 05:01.15 | patlabor221 | how are you? |
| 05:01.17 | Chikorita | hi |
| 05:01.21 | Chikorita | im good |
| 05:01.25 | Chikorita | and u? |
| 05:01.48 | bzgirl | hey Chikorita |
| 05:01.57 | patlabor221 | I'm ok |
| 05:02.00 | Chikorita | hey bzgirl :) |
| 05:02.03 | fiberchunks | on xbox |
| 05:02.03 | Chikorita | kewl |
| 05:02.07 | patlabor221 | just had dinner.. fullmmmmmm :) |
| 05:02.16 | Chikorita | heehe mee 2 |
| 05:02.26 | Chikorita | i eat late at nite |
| 05:02.36 | patlabor221 | seems I do too |
| 05:02.47 | Chikorita | i sleep ums better wif a full tunny |
| 05:02.47 | patlabor221 | tho not as late as you tho |
| 05:02.51 | Chikorita | tummy* |
| 05:02.55 | patlabor221 | food coma |
| 05:02.59 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 05:03.01 | Chikorita | ya |
| 05:03.08 | Chikorita | u kno wuts funny tho |
| 05:03.22 | patlabor221 | cats with hats? |
| 05:03.22 | Chikorita | eating pizza b4 bedtime really does give u nitemares :P |
| 05:03.29 | Chikorita | LoL that too |
| 05:03.36 | Chikorita | at least to mee |
| 05:04.01 | Chikorita | i had such a skeery nitmeare one time ... |
| 05:04.44 | Chikorita | anywayzz |
| 05:04.53 | patlabor221 | were you standing on sort of a little pyramid and people were thowing little pickles at you? |
| 05:04.57 | Chikorita | so wuts goin on here ? :) |
| 05:05.05 | Chikorita | lol pat |
| 05:05.06 | fiberchunks | why am I the only one who has that dream ;) |
| 05:05.14 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 05:05.29 | Chikorita | i skeered of da debil :( |
| 05:05.43 | fiberchunks | duck! duck again! |
| 05:05.50 | Chikorita | anyone eva see dat movie .."Mothman profecies?" |
| 05:05.54 | captain_proton | where?? |
| 05:05.54 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 05:05.55 | fiberchunks | yes |
| 05:05.58 | patlabor221 | that was great |
| 05:06.03 | fiberchunks | twas |
| 05:06.07 | Chikorita | dat was sooo skeery iwish i didnt watch it :( |
| 05:06.24 | bzgirl | The Ring was really good i thought |
| 05:06.30 | Chikorita | i only watch it cuz richard geere was in it |
| 05:06.32 | patlabor221 | yeah it was suspencefull |
| 05:06.32 | fiberchunks | haven't seen that yet |
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| 05:06.42 | Chikorita | o yea dat lil girl is hella freaky |
| 05:06.46 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 05:06.49 | patlabor221 | fiber did you watch iron monkey? |
| 05:06.51 | captain_proton | hieeee MrApathyCream |
| 05:06.55 | Chikorita | she come outta da TV! =-O |
| 05:06.57 | captain_proton | iron monkey...hahahahahahahahaha |
| 05:06.59 | bzgirl | Chikorita: yeah she was nuts |
| 05:07.00 | fiberchunks | gah! no, I haven't -- must scp now |
| 05:07.12 | fiberchunks | it'll have to wait til I get back from vacation |
| 05:07.16 | patlabor221 | bad, bad fiber |
| 05:07.20 | MrApathyCream | what no pouncing? |
| 05:07.22 | captain_proton | bzgirl: a friend of mine made me and two other crazy guys watch that...she was really sorry |
| 05:07.26 | captain_proton | OH MY GOD ITS FOX NEWS |
| 05:07.31 | captain_proton | *ahem* |
| 05:07.40 | Chikorita | "u will all sufferrrrrr" =-O |
| 05:08.16 | Chikorita | i cant watch da news anymore |
| 05:08.22 | bzgirl | :) |
| 05:08.26 | Chikorita | it jus makes mee angry |
| 05:08.28 | fiberchunks | personally, I enjoy the faces of death series for the comedy factor ;) |
| 05:08.37 | patlabor221 | cap I'm using g++ version 3.0.4 now |
| 05:08.39 | patlabor221 | is that good? |
| 05:08.50 | captain_proton | its better |
| 05:09.04 | fiberchunks | 3.2.2 is the best of the crop right now, imho |
| 05:09.07 | captain_proton | i like 3.2.2 |
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| 05:09.19 | patlabor221 | well don't know how I would get that |
| 05:09.22 | Chikorita | hi jb |
| 05:09.33 | JBDiGriz | hi all |
| 05:09.37 | fiberchunks | nor do i, with debian, anywho |
| 05:10.18 | fiberchunks | hello JB |
| 05:10.25 | Chikorita | heehe i watching "Stripes" now |
| 05:10.28 | patlabor221 | I think I would have to update to sid |
| 05:10.32 | Chikorita | dat movie iz so funny |
| 05:10.33 | fiberchunks | good flick, that |
| 05:10.34 | patlabor221 | heh that movie is good |
| 05:10.35 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 05:11.06 | Chikorita | actually i saw da HoW team motto in dat movie ..i spoitted it on da wall in one of da barrack scenes |
| 05:11.13 | Chikorita | spotted* |
| 05:11.26 | Chikorita | isnt dat a quinky-dink? |
| 05:11.27 | JBDiGriz | Are there changes to the koth patch? I didn't see anything in sf. |
| 05:11.36 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.37 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.37 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.37 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.37 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: i've been...busy |
| 05:11.37 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.39 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.44 | MrApathyCream | why two falses, and no uh-uh's? |
| 05:11.56 | patlabor221 | to make it REALY false |
| 05:12.12 | MrApathyCream | D.O.D. says you should do it three times |
| 05:12.17 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: no problem, thanks! |
| 05:12.24 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i think its supposed to be "False" |
| 05:12.28 | captain_proton | thats crs code, so i dunno |
| 05:12.35 | patlabor221 | we are using the rules of dod in berundi |
| 05:12.44 | Chikorita | two falses dunt make a truth :) |
| 05:12.47 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 05:12.53 | Chikorita | im silly :P |
| 05:13.12 | Chikorita | dunt mind mee ... |
| 05:13.43 | Chikorita | of the chat room , that iz.. |
| 05:14.16 | patlabor221 | we have corners |
| 05:14.18 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 05:14.21 | Chikorita | heehe sgt. hulka |
| 05:15.01 | captain_proton | this is a circular channel! |
| 05:15.11 | patlabor221 | spherical |
| 05:15.15 | captain_proton | ooo |
| 05:15.15 | Chikorita | i like bill murray , i bet hes alot of fun in real life |
| 05:15.57 | patlabor221 | ghost busters was the best one of his in that day |
| 05:16.12 | fiberchunks | caddyshack |
| 05:16.18 | patlabor221 | ooo point |
| 05:16.24 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 05:16.28 | patlabor221 | the C4 rabit |
| 05:16.47 | fiberchunks | that's a peach hon |
| 05:16.48 | patlabor221 | tho he didn't have that big of a part |
| 05:17.10 | fiberchunks | true |
| 05:17.32 | patlabor221 | ghostbusters had a number of good one liners |
| 05:17.37 | fiberchunks | hrm, /me must upgrade xchat |
| 05:17.43 | patlabor221 | "what did you DO ray!!" |
| 05:18.38 | patlabor221 | that's a lot |
| 05:18.45 | fiberchunks | it's a good movie |
| 05:18.46 | patlabor221 | did you watch the red vs blue stuff? |
| 05:18.49 | JBDiGriz | Mel Brooks, my favorite director! |
| 05:18.50 | patlabor221 | it is a good movie |
| 05:18.56 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: Unique constants for no |
| 05:19.04 | patlabor221 | "no no no, don't shoot him.. that'll just make him angry" |
| 05:19.21 | JBDiGriz | Have you seen his short "The Critic"? |
| 05:20.23 | fiberchunks | mongo like sheriff bart |
| 05:20.28 | MrApathyCream | Hmm, would be cool with statedatabase if you could program a sequence of complicatedly timed moves and assign them to a hot key |
| 05:20.43 | JBDiGriz | ahhh mongo straight |
| 05:20.45 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: thats not really a StateDatabase thing |
| 05:20.54 | captain_proton | there was the whole key manager thing |
| 05:20.55 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 05:21.10 | JBDiGriz | Mongo, Santa Maria! |
| 05:21.10 | fiberchunks | oooo boys, lookie what I got here... |
| 05:21.14 | captain_proton | in this case, we'd want to have a method of creating timed sequences and binding them to a command |
| 05:21.35 | JBDiGriz | For my next impression, Jesse Owens! |
| 05:21.52 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 05:22.14 | JBDiGriz | Baby, I am not from Havana! |
| 05:22.19 | fiberchunks | 'are we awake?' 'we're not sure, are we ... black?' 'yes, we are.' 'then we're awake, but veerrrrryyy puzzled' |
| 05:22.32 | JBDiGriz | What do you like to do? |
| 05:22.42 | fiberchunks | and of course -- 'scuse me while I whip this out' |
| 05:22.46 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 05:22.51 | JBDiGriz | Let's play chess. |
| 05:22.56 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:23.40 | JBDiGriz | Morning Maam, and isn't it a lovely morning? |
| 05:23.59 | fiberchunks | how bout some more beans Mr. Taggart!? I think you've had enough! |
| 05:24.05 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 05:24.19 | JBDiGriz | rotfl |
| 05:25.18 | JBDiGriz | Taggart, that's not my ducky! |
| 05:25.42 | fiberchunks | rvb is on it's way, Herr patlabor221 |
| 05:26.15 | fiberchunks | I didn't get a harrumph out of that guy! |
| 05:26.28 | JBDiGriz | Give the Governor a harrumph! |
| 05:26.39 | JBDiGriz | That's Hedley! |
| 05:26.45 | fiberchunks | 'think of your secretary....' |
| 05:26.53 | patlabor221 | well now to see about udain me some gcc |
| 05:27.38 | patlabor221 | I've got my bizare fluxbox/KDE hybrid goin tho :) |
| 05:28.08 | fiberchunks | heh -- that is an odd mix |
| 05:28.20 | patlabor221 | I need the kicker |
| 05:28.26 | patlabor221 | and konq |
| 05:28.34 | patlabor221 | they are my friends |
| 05:28.38 | fiberchunks | ewwww, you like konq? |
| 05:28.43 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:28.46 | patlabor221 | why not? |
| 05:28.58 | patlabor221 | tho I prefer the 3.1 version |
| 05:28.58 | JBDiGriz | I like konq, and it's descendant Safari |
| 05:28.59 | fiberchunks | for what, file management, or browsing |
| 05:29.06 | patlabor221 | both |
| 05:29.10 | patlabor221 | have galeon too |
| 05:29.26 | patlabor221 | this galeon is ugly tho |
| 05:29.35 | fiberchunks | that's the one for me, galeon -- tried epiphany (smaller faster cousin of moz and galeon), works nice |
| 05:29.49 | fiberchunks | gtk2 is necessary for all the AA and prettiness |
| 05:30.27 | fiberchunks | epiphany has a different way of handling bookmarks -- it's not a tree, kinda bizarre to get used to |
| 05:31.25 | fiberchunks | I use roxfiler or mc for filemanagement, but there is a file manager called gentoo (no relation) that is supposed to be nice as well |
| 05:31.55 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/IMAGES/snapshot1.png |
| 05:32.55 | fiberchunks | very nice |
| 05:33.42 | patlabor221 | now to just get BZ to compile |
| 05:34.00 | patlabor221 | every time I try to do a sid upgrade it tells me it can't update libpamG0 |
| 05:34.47 | fiberchunks | join #debian, and ask the kind folks in there what the required voodoo is |
| 05:34.54 | captain_proton | patlabor221: sick |
| 05:35.08 | patlabor221 | if I can get bz to compile on woody I have no need to update |
| 05:35.23 | patlabor221 | installing latest gcc now |
| 05:35.31 | fiberchunks | true enough |
| 05:35.40 | bzgirl | patlabor221: you removed libpamG0? |
| 05:35.42 | fiberchunks | which gcc, 3.2.2 ? |
| 05:35.49 | patlabor221 | no not this time |
| 05:35.59 | patlabor221 | the laptop wont' update |
| 05:36.23 | patlabor221 | cus it says libpam0G could not perform imediate configuration |
| 05:36.46 | fiberchunks | perhaps you need to be in single user mode for that to happen? |
| 05:37.02 | patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 05:37.14 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: i don't understand why... |
| 05:37.14 | patlabor221 | how does one go into that? |
| 05:37.27 | captain_proton | this isn't like windows, you can write to a file even if its open |
| 05:37.29 | fiberchunks | captain_proton> nor do I captain, but it doesn't make sense |
| 05:37.44 | fiberchunks | not being able to update a lib like that |
| 05:38.13 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 05:41.10 | MrApathyCream | patlabor, any ideas? |
| 05:41.12 | MrApathyCream | libcpmt.lib(xlock.obj) : error LNK2005: "public: __thiscall std::_Lockit::~_Lockit(void)" (??1_Lockit@std@@QAE@XZ) already defined in mediafile.lib(PNGImageFile.obj) |
| 05:41.12 | MrApathyCream | ..\src\bzflag\bzflag.exe : fatal error LNK1169: one or more multiply defined symbols found |
| 05:41.12 | MrApathyCream | Error executing link.exe. |
| 05:41.29 | captain_proton | std::_Lockit ?!? |
| 05:41.35 | captain_proton | ooh mediafile? :) |
| 05:41.46 | patlabor221 | ohh the png stuff |
| 05:41.55 | fiberchunks | patlabor221> perhaps this will help: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49062 |
| 05:41.59 | patlabor221 | you got libs duped |
| 05:42.51 | MrApathyCream | yag |
| 05:42.52 | MrApathyCream | yah |
| 05:43.31 | patlabor221 | why is it that derv and spif are in EVERY thred that needs a locking? |
| 05:43.51 | fiberchunks | why, what thread now? |
| 05:44.08 | patlabor221 | sign up now! |
| 05:44.13 | patlabor221 | I'm not gonna lock it |
| 05:44.31 | patlabor221 | I told them to just drop it and take there crap to PM |
| 05:44.37 | patlabor221 | spif is just whinny |
| 05:45.52 | patlabor221 | this is my test for them |
| 05:46.20 | captain_proton | what thread? |
| 05:46.29 | Chikorita | :P |
| 05:46.32 | patlabor221 | it's called "sign up now" |
| 05:46.34 | Chikorita | uh oh did he reply |
| 05:46.37 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:46.38 | Chikorita | dang |
| 05:46.41 | patlabor221 | just let it go tho |
| 05:46.43 | patlabor221 | please |
| 05:46.47 | patlabor221 | we all know he's a whiner |
| 05:46.48 | Chikorita | ok i wont say anything |
| 05:46.51 | patlabor221 | thanks |
| 05:46.51 | Chikorita | :x |
| 05:47.02 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 05:47.04 | fiberchunks | :\ |
| 05:47.06 | fiberchunks | urhg |
| 05:47.07 | Chikorita | grml |
| 05:47.10 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 05:47.17 | fiberchunks | ha ha. |
| 05:47.27 | patlabor221 | at some point they all have to learn to play nice with the other children |
| 05:47.35 | Chikorita | bbl |
| 05:47.57 | patlabor221 | fiber, notice how derv and spif are in EVERY thread we locked? |
| 05:48.49 | fiberchunks | yes, I do -- I also, regretfully, notice that chik and carnage are in them as well (the recent ones, anyway |
| 05:48.50 | fiberchunks | ) |
| 05:48.59 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:49.12 | patlabor221 | lets see if chik lets it go |
| 05:49.27 | patlabor221 | I told spif to drop it multiple times |
| 05:49.41 | patlabor221 | and he dosn't understand the term "munchkin" |
| 05:49.53 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:50.00 | fiberchunks | I followed your leader with a reply |
| 05:50.07 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 05:50.18 | MrApathyCream | hmm, one would think i would just ignore libcmt.lib |
| 05:50.23 | fiberchunks | instead of my usual, abrupt behavior -- I was going to add a 'grow up' comment, but nah |
| 05:50.30 | patlabor221 | mt? |
| 05:50.33 | patlabor221 | why are we mt? |
| 05:50.49 | patlabor221 | that just pisses the munchies off |
| 05:51.04 | patlabor221 | I don't think chik is a bad person, she just got pissed |
| 05:51.12 | patlabor221 | spiff won't let anything go |
| 05:51.25 | patlabor221 | and keeps trying to "make it better" |
| 05:51.29 | MrApathyCream | hmm, maybe that's the prob |
| 05:51.31 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:51.42 | patlabor221 | I told him give it a month |
| 05:51.52 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 05:51.58 | patlabor221 | you can't make someone think it's 'ok' |
| 05:51.58 | MrApathyCream | ah, i think it was that ogg stuff |
| 05:51.59 | MrApathyCream | checking |
| 05:52.14 | patlabor221 | your moving ogg over too? |
| 05:52.22 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 05:52.28 | MrApathyCream | but that was there originally |
| 05:52.39 | captain_proton | no ogg? :( |
| 05:52.42 | patlabor221 | now carnage seems kinda rude all the time |
| 05:52.45 | patlabor221 | don't know his deal |
| 05:52.46 | MrApathyCream | one step at a time cappy |
| 05:53.46 | patlabor221 | he reimnds me of sussudio |
| 05:53.56 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:54.20 | patlabor221 | ohh I know who he is now |
| 05:54.24 | patlabor221 | he's a cheater and an ass |
| 05:54.37 | fiberchunks | really? |
| 05:54.45 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: ok :) |
| 05:54.48 | fiberchunks | how do you know |
| 05:54.52 | patlabor221 | LTD |
| 05:54.58 | patlabor221 | LTDan |
| 05:55.00 | patlabor221 | etc... |
| 05:55.07 | fiberchunks | oh, no s*** -- interesting |
| 05:56.12 | fiberchunks | oooo, all 3 admins, on the same topic, at the same time *teary-eyed* ;) |
| 05:56.54 | MrApathyCream | sl--p |
| 05:56.59 | captain_proton | can't they behave? |
| 05:57.41 | fiberchunks | seems not |
| 05:57.50 | patlabor221 | can they ever |
| 05:57.54 | captain_proton | spiff seems to chronically take everything personally, and his constant whining due to that pisses everyone else off... |
| 05:58.00 | patlabor221 | he does |
| 05:58.12 | patlabor221 | if he repplys I will seriously kick his a$$ |
| 05:58.16 | fiberchunks | spiff has security issues, methinks (that, and he's young) |
| 05:58.27 | JBDiGriz | Spiff is young, if we can get enough people pointing out the error of his ways, he might be trainable. |
| 05:58.40 | captain_proton | he's not that young... |
| 05:58.43 | patlabor221 | ohh trust me I'm trying |
| 05:58.45 | patlabor221 | he's 17 |
| 05:59.03 | patlabor221 | cap that was last year man. |
| 05:59.09 | JBDiGriz | That looks pretty young to me. |
| 05:59.10 | fiberchunks | heh, you were not a typical 17 year old, methinks ;) |
| 05:59.14 | captain_proton | couple years ago |
| 05:59.18 | patlabor221 | ok 2 |
| 05:59.27 | patlabor221 | :p |
| 05:59.54 | JBDiGriz | I didn't start hacking Unix until I was 19, and that was v6. |
| 06:01.10 | patlabor221 | and they are programable :) |
| 06:01.18 | JBDiGriz | I was playing with legos up until a couple of years ago, but my son has decided he likes game boy better! |
| 06:01.43 | fiberchunks | have not ascended to the level of mindstorms yet ;) |
| 06:01.57 | patlabor221 | if/when I have kids it's going to be so hard for me to say no when they want a toy, cus I'll be "oooo that IS cool" |
| 06:02.05 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 06:02.21 | JBDiGriz | That's one of the best reasons to have kids, you get to play with the new toys! |
| 06:02.42 | fiberchunks | my kid wants toys that are too expensive :\ |
| 06:02.58 | patlabor221 | I want toys that are too expensive! |
| 06:03.01 | fiberchunks | so I'm getting him into computers -- he loves em (esp bzflag) |
| 06:03.18 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: How old is he? |
| 06:03.23 | fiberchunks | 5 |
| 06:03.43 | fiberchunks | he sees me on mine all the time, and asks if he can help me type ;) |
| 06:03.53 | JBDiGriz | We need a site for the under 13 players. My kids would love to have something like that. |
| 06:04.18 | fiberchunks | 'ok, now find the t', 'now the h', now the e -- you know what that spells? 'Yes! the' << good job kiddo |
| 06:04.31 | JBDiGriz | My son sees me playing, and sets up a server on another machine, so we can shoot each other. |
| 06:05.11 | patlabor221 | just so people know |
| 06:05.16 | patlabor221 | IP's match |
| 06:05.36 | patlabor221 | cus he is a huge cheater |
| 06:05.46 | fiberchunks | change it, or ban his sorry ass altogether -- I don't want cheaters on our board |
| 06:06.16 | fiberchunks | anyone who has a problem with a banned cheater on the board is more than welcome to leave, imho |
| 06:06.17 | patlabor221 | but he "appologiesed" |
| 06:06.21 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: i should of told you along time ago bout him |
| 06:06.23 | fiberchunks | don't give a damn |
| 06:06.28 | JBDiGriz | Are you absolutely certain about Carnage and LTD? I didn't think LTD had access to admin on any sites. |
| 06:06.39 | captain_proton | patlabor221: um...you realize that cell apologized... |
| 06:06.40 | patlabor221 | well I'll see what happens with this then ban him if need be |
| 06:06.46 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: but he sort of promised me to "straightnen" out and learn ctf |
| 06:06.50 | patlabor221 | why do you think it was in "" cap :) |
| 06:06.55 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 06:08.09 | *** join/#bzflag cniV (~kchan@c16991.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 06:09.57 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> has he been accurate with that intent? |
| 06:10.41 | patlabor221 | fiber that's the same guy who asked me to make a bunch of cheats for him |
| 06:10.48 | fiberchunks | no, nevermind -- I really have no tolerance for cheaters in bz, and I sure won't have any tolerance for them on the board if they start crap with other people on the board. |
| 06:11.02 | patlabor221 | he was the one I made the "special" cheat for :) |
| 06:11.18 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: he dosent cheat in ctf, not that i know of anyhw |
| 06:11.24 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 06:11.32 | JBDiGriz | He seems to be a little bit sweet on Chik right now, which also doesn't fit his prior personality. |
| 06:13.01 | captain_proton | 'lo cniV |
| 06:13.06 | captain_proton | finished karma yet? ;-) |
| 06:13.28 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: there was however an issue i thought fishy, he palyed on a team called blitz as LTD, that apparently played another team 2 times and won, on this other team there was a player named...you guessed it..carnage...no one witnessed these matches |
| 06:13.35 | patlabor221 | his IP logs match for like 10 IPs |
| 06:13.51 | patlabor221 | he's dual teaming too |
| 06:13.53 | patlabor221 | that's not right |
| 06:13.58 | fiberchunks | what, with his old LT.d sign? patlabor221 |
| 06:14.05 | patlabor221 | didn't he cheat in game |
| 06:14.07 | patlabor221 | LTD |
| 06:14.10 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 06:14.13 | fiberchunks | ban him |
| 06:14.15 | patlabor221 | hell just click on his IP thing |
| 06:14.17 | bzgirl | he was..the blitz team folded after that |
| 06:14.19 | JBDiGriz | he used to use several machines in a school lab. |
| 06:14.23 | patlabor221 | I will wait 1 day |
| 06:14.24 | patlabor221 | then I shall |
| 06:14.26 | fiberchunks | fine |
| 06:14.44 | fiberchunks | PM him, tell him to cut the shit, or ban him. that's my take on it |
| 06:14.58 | patlabor221 | yup |
| 06:15.55 | patlabor221 | any topic over 3 posts enventualy degrades into something elese |
| 06:15.56 | fiberchunks | pardon my french all you 'virgin eared' folk in here ;\ |
| 06:15.57 | patlabor221 | it's funny actualy |
| 06:17.07 | fiberchunks | how so |
| 06:17.30 | patlabor221 | they ether get silly, or rude |
| 06:17.40 | fiberchunks | ah, true |
| 06:17.50 | *** join/#bzflag learner (sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 06:18.08 | learner | hehe, what a night |
| 06:18.10 | patlabor221 | but it's not like I'm not gulty of that too |
| 06:18.22 | patlabor221 | I just try to keep it in the non high trafic forums |
| 06:18.45 | fiberchunks | oh, same here |
| 06:18.49 | fiberchunks | everyone is |
| 06:19.08 | fiberchunks | yay! koth! /me likes that style immensely |
| 06:19.09 | learner | cap, is the problem known now? |
| 06:19.18 | captain_proton | there were a few problems |
| 06:19.22 | captain_proton | still 1 problem left |
| 06:19.36 | learner | heh .. *1* he says.. |
| 06:20.43 | fiberchunks | no, it's true! seems just one thing left -- king leaves, no new king, but then magically it comes back a time later |
| 06:20.47 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 06:21.37 | patlabor221 | I still think it should be rabit hunt |
| 06:22.14 | fiberchunks | I agree -- there is no spoon |
| 06:25.12 | patlabor221 | yeah yeah, I need to do disshes again, don't rub it in. |
| 06:25.49 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 06:27.06 | fiberchunks | wabbit hunt |
| 06:27.58 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 06:28.06 | patlabor221 | if it auto hunted with the hunter patch |
| 06:29.39 | patlabor221 | ibot logs it all |
| 06:29.40 | | patlabor221: no idea |
| 06:29.44 | patlabor221 | it'll be the logs tomrow |
| 06:29.49 | patlabor221 | ~sup |
| 06:29.54 | | I'm coo, howzit? |
| 06:29.54 | fiberchunks | ooooo, good point, completely forgot about that |
| 06:30.07 | fiberchunks | ~hangin |
| 06:30.24 | patlabor221 | oooooo ibot slow |
| 06:30.41 | fiberchunks | this whole connection is bogged down -- prob repercussions from yesterday |
| 06:31.51 | patlabor221 | no I see your stuff |
| 06:32.08 | patlabor221 | ~who is your daddy? |
| 06:32.08 | | YOU are, Mr. Sexy Pants |
| 06:32.22 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: you can do /lastlog also |
| 06:32.24 | patlabor221 | just didn't know your thing |
| 06:32.38 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.02 | bzgirl | if you didnt enable logging its habdy |
| 06:33.08 | bzgirl | and handy |
| 06:33.11 | patlabor221 | ew ew ew ew, they just came up with something nasy in the Harry Potter book |
| 06:33.32 | fiberchunks | mmm, /lastlog, thx bzg :) |
| 06:37.51 | patlabor221 | huzaaah |
| 06:38.27 | fiberchunks | cosmic coincidence hah! |
| 06:39.19 | fiberchunks | ROFL |
| 06:39.34 | *** part/#bzflag bzgirl (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 06:40.16 | fiberchunks | 'what are they talkin about?' |
| 06:40.35 | patlabor221 | "god I hate you" |
| 06:40.46 | fiberchunks | ROFL -- that is some _funny_ stuff |
| 06:40.58 | patlabor221 | yes it is |
| 06:41.08 | patlabor221 | that's all in an Xbox game |
| 06:41.30 | fiberchunks | that's 4 dudes playing a game? for real? |
| 06:42.09 | patlabor221 | yeah that's in game |
| 06:42.10 | fiberchunks | is that the idea behind the speex thing for bzflag? |
| 06:42.15 | patlabor221 | they have 2 networked boxes |
| 06:42.26 | patlabor221 | they do the voices later |
| 06:42.30 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 06:42.32 | patlabor221 | one "Player" is the camera man |
| 06:42.43 | patlabor221 | his view is recorded |
| 06:42.59 | patlabor221 | the others are on the other xbox as the actors |
| 06:43.08 | fiberchunks | nice |
| 06:45.04 | captain_proton | ok, koth hacking time |
| 06:45.24 | patlabor221 | see this is why I keep telling cap he needs to wathc it, but he won't |
| 06:45.25 | fiberchunks | yay! |
| 06:46.46 | patlabor221 | ep 2 is rather good |
| 06:47.03 | fiberchunks | ep 2 and 3 are on their way |
| 06:47.20 | fiberchunks | cap, really, you've gotta check out the rvb stuff, it's hilarious |
| 06:47.35 | patlabor221 | do you like there comany logo? |
| 06:47.46 | patlabor221 | "roster teeth productions" |
| 06:48.06 | fiberchunks | yeah |
| 06:48.14 | fiberchunks | rooster |
| 06:48.19 | fiberchunks | ;) |
| 06:49.14 | patlabor221 | cockbite! |
| 06:57.09 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Patches 496659 (King of the Hill Game Style): |
| 06:57.37 | captain_proton | updated :) |
| 06:58.38 | fiberchunks | yay! what about that last bug? |
| 06:58.46 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 06:59.23 | fiberchunks | good enough -- when does babylonia generate snaps? |
| 07:01.22 | patlabor221 | when it gets the mail |
| 07:02.06 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 07:04.15 | patlabor221 | hey cap, you want a board with a PPC 16 megs of ram, some flash mem, usb, and ethernet? |
| 07:04.52 | patlabor221 | that's like 8 inches by 5 inches? |
| 07:05.53 | patlabor221 | nor do I, but scanline said it could boot leeeeenox so I dont' want to huck it |
| 07:06.08 | fiberchunks | mail it to me :) |
| 07:06.12 | scanline | well, in theory |
| 07:06.20 | scanline | I doubt anyone's tried porting linux to it |
| 07:06.29 | patlabor221 | actualy they got stuff booting on it |
| 07:06.32 | scanline | and you'd probably have to wire up a JTAG and port/write a bootloader first |
| 07:06.33 | patlabor221 | was reading |
| 07:06.39 | scanline | oh, that's neat |
| 07:06.47 | patlabor221 | one site had the pinouts for the pads |
| 07:06.55 | patlabor221 | the bootloader has been writen |
| 07:07.04 | patlabor221 | it's a SF project |
| 07:07.05 | fiberchunks | friend o mine in MA works on reclosers for major power companies using that general tech -- I've always pestered him to learn me on it |
| 07:08.04 | learner | ok, pat -- I'm with you. I'm calling it rabbit hunt |
| 07:09.07 | patlabor221 | yeay :) |
| 07:09.14 | patlabor221 | cus why is the king allways white? :) |
| 07:09.27 | learner | of course? |
| 07:09.27 | patlabor221 | sould call it "down with whitie" |
| 07:09.42 | patlabor221 | or "stick it to the man" |
| 07:09.54 | patlabor221 | then you could have the message "you are now the man" |
| 07:10.02 | learner | hey, if you make it so all the other tanks can jump, you could call it "white tank can't jump" |
| 07:10.10 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:10.29 | patlabor221 | you ever see chasing amy? |
| 07:11.14 | learner | I knew a girl named amy once and .. yes .. I did chase her for a while |
| 07:11.17 | learner | :) |
| 07:11.28 | learner | how'd you know? |
| 07:11.30 | learner | heheheh |
| 07:11.31 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 07:11.46 | patlabor221 | reember the "black rage... black rage" part? |
| 07:12.16 | learner | not really, sorry |
| 07:12.24 | patlabor221 | well it was funny |
| 07:13.12 | patlabor221 | you could be realy mean and give the rabbit V all the time :) |
| 07:13.31 | patlabor221 | but 1/2 his turning speed |
| 07:13.47 | learner | oh, a high-speed rabbit -- that would be a fun chase.. |
| 07:14.15 | learner | seriously |
| 07:14.48 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:14.55 | captain_proton | hrmph |
| 07:15.03 | captain_proton | so apparently the server already checks for if the king is leaving |
| 07:15.04 | patlabor221 | the 1/2 turning speed would help make it more fair |
| 07:15.43 | learner | ah, it'll be hard enough even if he has full speed with 7+ more shooting at him |
| 07:15.49 | learner | er "V" speed |
| 07:15.56 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:16.13 | patlabor221 | can the hunters shoot each other? |
| 07:18.08 | patlabor221 | hmmm well still can't build BZ but methinks X is all set |
| 07:18.18 | patlabor221 | just can't get kicker to autostart in flux |
| 07:18.22 | captain_proton | ah |
| 07:18.34 | captain_proton | can i get a couple koth testers? |
| 07:19.01 | fiberchunks | sure |
| 07:19.04 | patlabor221 | I don't have the last patch |
| 07:19.09 | patlabor221 | did the client change? |
| 07:19.18 | fiberchunks | what server |
| 07:19.20 | captain_proton | patlabor221: no |
| 07:19.24 | patlabor221 | i'm in |
| 07:19.28 | learner | I think I have a client somewhere |
| 07:19.32 | captain_proton | mine, should be in the list |
| 07:50.27 | captain_proton | patlabor221 / fiberchunks - you guys didn't have any problems? |
| 07:50.42 | learner | sounds good |
| 07:50.48 | fiberchunks | nope, none at all |
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| 07:51.15 | learner | were there commits since midday (er 12 hours ago)? |
| 07:51.24 | learner | related to this, that is |
| 07:51.55 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 07:52.08 | captain_proton | learner: no commits directly related, but an updated patch |
| 07:52.20 | captain_proton | here goes... |
| 07:52.25 | learner | ah... that's probably it then |
| 07:52.29 | patlabor221 | fiber, we have 96 accounts we can purge |
| 07:52.34 | patlabor221 | all the 0 post people |
| 07:52.59 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: king of the hill (aka THE MAN) |
| 07:53.11 | fiberchunks | wow, that many huh |
| 07:53.25 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:53.31 | captain_proton | woobup |
| 07:53.45 | learner | woot! |
| 07:53.56 | patlabor221 | let me post to say we will delete anyone who hasn't posted, and if they want to lurk they can at least post in the "hey there" thread |
| 07:53.59 | fiberchunks | hrm DELETE * from USERS where posts=0; |
| 07:54.05 | fiberchunks | heh, yeah, that works |
| 07:54.08 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:54.17 | fiberchunks | make a time limit on it for 1 month |
| 07:54.29 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:54.32 | fiberchunks | that should about relate to the 6 month period for this thing |
| 07:54.43 | learner | hehe, that included beos updates? or was that earlier? |
| 07:54.47 | patlabor221 | I'll write it up tomorow |
| 07:54.55 | patlabor221 | give em a week to read it and post |
| 07:55.08 | fiberchunks | k |
| 07:55.17 | patlabor221 | cus there may be people who just read |
| 07:55.20 | patlabor221 | and hey that's cool |
| 07:55.23 | captain_proton | learner: hm? that shouldn't have any beos updates... |
| 07:55.33 | fiberchunks | yeah, but you don't need to register to read anything on the site |
| 07:55.34 | patlabor221 | just post once and your good |
| 07:55.40 | fiberchunks | cept the private stuff |
| 07:55.41 | patlabor221 | ohh true |
| 07:55.43 | patlabor221 | true |
| 07:55.53 | patlabor221 | the away with them |
| 07:55.57 | patlabor221 | post or be delete |
| 07:56.03 | fiberchunks | but yeah, if they wanna keep an account to make em feel better, whatever ;) |
| 07:56.04 | patlabor221 | Cake OR DEATH!!!!!! |
| 07:56.11 | fiberchunks | hump or death! |
| 07:56.21 | patlabor221 | did you listen to cake or death? |
| 07:56.22 | fiberchunks | history of the world Part I |
| 07:56.26 | fiberchunks | no, not yet |
| 07:56.39 | patlabor221 | "thank you for flying church of england, cake or death?" |
| 07:56.52 | fiberchunks | lol -- izzard? |
| 07:57.18 | patlabor221 | he was saying chruch of england could never be harsh, they coudl never say " you will have tea and cake with the vicar or you will die" |
| 07:57.36 | patlabor221 | cus when it comes right down to it when the choice is "cake or death" the choice is easy |
| 07:57.43 | patlabor221 | "cake or death!?!?!?!" |
| 07:57.45 | patlabor221 | cake please |
| 07:57.58 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 07:58.05 | patlabor221 | yeah it's izzard |
| 07:58.28 | learner | I need more proton deck practice -- I think the first official rabbit chase should include a decks map.. |
| 07:58.38 | learner | ;) |
| 07:58.55 | captain_proton | =) |
| 07:59.10 | patlabor221 | ok time for napies |
| 07:59.11 | fiberchunks | brown-nose ;) |
| 07:59.13 | patlabor221 | see ya all later |
| 07:59.16 | fiberchunks | nite |
| 08:02.06 | learner | what's the flag to turn on debug1 in bzfs options? |
| 08:02.22 | captain_proton | -d |
| 08:02.39 | learner | just -d? what about debug2 then? |
| 08:02.47 | captain_proton | -d -d |
| 08:02.51 | learner | ah, thx |
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| 08:11.28 | CIA | commit by brlcad: Resource data added from patch 496659 (King of the Hill Game Style) |
| 08:12.19 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 08:12.21 | captain_proton | nice catch :) |
| 08:13.38 | learner | ;) |
| 08:13.55 | learner | just rebuilt and all appears to be working fine |
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| 08:29.14 | bomber | moin |
| 08:38.25 | learner | night, bomber |
| 08:41.52 | bomber | :o) |
| 08:41.52 | bomber | ibot moin |
| 08:41.53 | | methinks moin is North German for everything you would say for salutatory |
| 08:43.06 | bomber | someone expert in OpenGL->avi? |
| 08:43.21 | captain_proton | bomber: avi is evil |
| 08:43.41 | bomber | why? |
| 08:43.56 | captain_proton | just the format... |
| 08:44.05 | captain_proton | and most avi-type codecs are bad for real-time encoding |
| 08:44.46 | bomber | hmm |
| 08:45.06 | captain_proton | scanline wrote a nice little system that used nupplevideo to encode |
| 08:45.11 | captain_proton | poke him :) |
| 08:45.43 | scanline | hmmm |
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| 14:13.59 | sussudio | big monitors good :-B |
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| 14:37.15 | RinzeWind | Where can I find a list of all the super flags and their effects? |
| 14:37.50 | sussudio | Help? :-P |
| 14:38.37 | bzgirl | RinzeWind: http://www.shellshock.dutchrai.com/references-flag.htm |
| 14:39.16 | bzgirl | RinzeWind: also, when playing, press F and flag help will appear for each flag you pick up |
| 14:39.26 | RinzeWind | Thx |
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| 15:10.29 | creeperz | Yesterday went from a nice day to hell |
| 15:13.58 | sussudio | that's nice |
| 15:14.38 | creeperz | Yup |
| 15:14.46 | sussudio | i got a bigass monitor |
| 15:14.56 | creeperz | Tornado touched down not too far from my house |
| 15:15.00 | creeperz | brb |
| 15:16.03 | [dmp] | Luckily we dont have tornados at all. |
| 15:16.24 | creeperz | It was fun though :-) |
| 15:16.26 | sussudio | you have lots of strawberry and linseed fields though |
| 15:17.06 | [dmp] | But I like rain on a quiet summerday :) |
| 15:17.22 | sussudio | they were like 10 kroner a kilo :-| |
| 15:18.55 | [dmp] | I was out in the field.. got like 15 kr/hour (was a kid - needed the money and like the strawberries) .. We could eat as much as we liked.. I sure got sunburned :-| |
| 15:19.05 | [dmp] | and fed up of strawberries :) |
| 15:20.09 | sussudio | 2 words - jordbaer ja. 10 kroner. |
| 15:20.13 | sussudio | nowgimme. |
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| 15:42.18 | Nidhoggr | good morning, bz'ers |
| 15:45.57 | Nidhoggr | dmp, my parents used to take us kids (6 of us) to the local "pick your own" strawberry place and put us to work. I used to love it. :) |
| 15:45.58 | Patlabor221 | what up G |
| 15:46.07 | Nidhoggr | hi patlabor221 |
| 15:46.17 | Nidhoggr | just settling in at work for the day. |
| 15:46.20 | Nidhoggr | this is my friday |
| 15:46.40 | Nidhoggr | I need the time off... my eyes got a little stressed out this week. |
| 15:47.01 | Patlabor221 | I'm just trying to get thru this song with out being intupted |
| 15:47.06 | Patlabor221 | been in the noggin all morning |
| 15:47.11 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:47.15 | captain_proton | hey...its my friday too |
| 15:47.17 | fiberchunks | which song :) |
| 15:47.21 | Nidhoggr | hi capt |
| 15:47.26 | Nidhoggr | morning, fiber. |
| 15:47.34 | fiberchunks | morning Nidhoggr |
| 15:47.36 | fiberchunks | and capt |
| 15:47.47 | Patlabor221 | BrimfullOfAshaR |
| 15:48.12 | Nidhoggr | if it stinks, make sure to bring a ziplock |
| 15:48.13 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 15:48.30 | Patlabor221 | and tongs |
| 15:48.37 | Nidhoggr | good point |
| 15:48.45 | fiberchunks | heh, I wish I could just have the dude setup an FTP server, or somesuch, but it's gov't docs, so they must be non-e copy |
| 15:49.00 | Patlabor221 | "everybody needs a bousoum for a pillow" |
| 15:49.15 | Patlabor221 | this is such a good song :0 |
| 15:49.16 | Nidhoggr | busom |
| 15:49.17 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 15:49.22 | Patlabor221 | ) ! 0 |
| 15:49.33 | captain_proton | bosom |
| 15:49.37 | Nidhoggr | oops |
| 15:49.48 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 15:50.14 | Patlabor221 | the U is silent |
| 15:50.23 | Patlabor221 | sussudio you blame everyone |
| 15:51.12 | fiberchunks | oh, captain -- does the latest cvs snapshot have the king patch in it now? |
| 15:51.31 | Patlabor221 | are you gonna really call it that? |
| 15:51.33 | captain_proton | ought to :) |
| 15:51.40 | Patlabor221 | realy RabbitChase |
| 15:51.47 | fiberchunks | don't work on ms. bzgirls server |
| 15:51.49 | Patlabor221 | what if we add real KOTH later. |
| 15:52.08 | fiberchunks | both of us just recompiled |
| 15:52.11 | Patlabor221 | well it have to be -realkoth ? |
| 15:52.19 | fiberchunks | with the latest snap |
| 15:52.20 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: then we'll deal with it |
| 15:52.29 | captain_proton | explain "doesn't work" :P |
| 15:52.47 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm the fist needs a class on computers and society |
| 15:53.03 | fiberchunks | heh, I am so terse -- no newKing is anointed when 2 join, no newKing is crowned when one shoots the other, etc |
| 15:53.16 | fiberchunks | she did specify -king on the cli to bzfs |
| 15:54.24 | Nidhoggr | hrm.. once 1.9 gets all happy, it'd be cool to write a scheduling interface for different types of games. |
| 15:54.46 | Nidhoggr | have people log on to a web page with their /register'd callsign, and schedule a game type for a certain time. |
| 15:55.15 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: have her run -d -d -d |
| 15:55.40 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Patches 496659 (King of the Hill Game Style): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Accepted' |
| 15:55.43 | captain_proton | there's one bug i haven't tracked down, where occasionally it reassigns the king to player=0 before anyone joins |
| 15:55.47 | fiberchunks | there you go -- I don't know why I was playing middle man |
| 15:55.55 | fiberchunks | ah, perhaps that's it then |
| 15:56.04 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> up and running again? |
| 15:56.13 | captain_proton | -d -d -d will print a notice to that effect :) |
| 15:56.14 | bzgirl | not yet |
| 15:57.48 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: ok its running |
| 15:57.59 | fiberchunks | mkay, I'll join |
| 15:58.41 | fiberchunks | no joy |
| 15:58.57 | Patlabor221 | we were playing last night on caps server |
| 15:59.09 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm he is DMX |
| 15:59.15 | Patlabor221 | I'll bet a port changed |
| 15:59.20 | fiberchunks | and I am the spaghetti king! |
| 15:59.51 | bzgirl | sending king (= 0) information to new player |
| 16:00.13 | captain_proton | bzgirl: something above that? like assigning king |
| 16:00.43 | bzgirl | Player [1] accept() from 208.186.182.172:35287 on 6 |
| 16:00.43 | bzgirl | Player [1] on 6 removed: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 16:00.43 | bzgirl | annointing a new king (= 0) |
| 16:00.43 | bzgirl | Player [1] accept() from 192.168.1.1:44155 on 6 |
| 16:00.43 | bzgirl | sending king (= 0) information to new player |
| 16:00.44 | bzgirl | Player bzg [1] has joined from 192.168.1.1:44155 on 6 |
| 16:00.46 | bzgirl | Player bzg [1] UDP link requested, remote 192.168.1.1:17200 |
| 16:00.48 | bzgirl | Player bzg [1] UDP confirmed |
| 16:00.52 | bzgirl | SETNUM bzgirl.bzflag.org:8000 1 0 0 0 0 |
| 16:01.33 | bzgirl | captain_proton: i dont need any patches now? just the latast snap? |
| 16:01.52 | captain_proton | just the latest snap |
| 16:01.59 | captain_proton | <bzgirl> annointing a new king (= 0) <-- that's the problem |
| 16:02.26 | captain_proton | seems like it might be an issue with that spurious connect when listing the server as public |
| 16:03.31 | fiberchunks | alrighty boys and girl ;) I must get ready to boogie -- have a good day - I'll see you this eve. |
| 16:03.37 | bzgirl | cu |
| 16:03.41 | Patlabor221 | have fun |
| 16:03.42 | sussudio | anyone know what the RJ11 "access.bus" thing on the back of this monitor is supposed to be for? |
| 16:05.14 | Patlabor221 | often to set monitor params from a serial connection on the PC |
| 16:05.19 | Patlabor221 | usualy for color corection |
| 16:05.23 | Patlabor221 | my Nanos have tht |
| 16:05.49 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 16:06.05 | sussudio | i got a 21" nokia 445Xi (used, but looks as new) for 199 euro |
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| 16:12.18 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Feature Requests 758011 (improve jump flag): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Duplicate' |
| 16:12.29 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Feature Requests 757832 (improve jump flag): Status->'Closed' |
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| 16:14.25 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 16:14.33 | captain_proton | i should make a patch for xchat that uses gdl_dock |
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| 16:15.16 | Nidhoggr | I've noticed more players on secretplace since we started giving a few regulars OPS permissions. |
| 16:16.28 | captain_proton | not surprising |
| 16:16.36 | captain_proton | people like to play on well-admined servers |
| 16:16.46 | Patlabor221 | wow so I had a good idea for once? :) |
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| 16:17.22 | Nidhoggr | WE had a good idea. :) |
| 16:17.36 | Nidhoggr | you did a kick-ass implementation, though. |
| 16:17.48 | Patlabor221 | sure sure, you are all just figements of my imagination anyway :) |
| 16:17.50 | creeperz | Hallo |
| 16:17.58 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha |
| 16:18.03 | Patlabor221 | aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh figment!!!! |
| 16:18.44 | Nidhoggr | one thing I did notice is that if I whine enough about wanting a feature, someone eventually listens. :) |
| 16:19.09 | creeperz | My dad is getting me a Dell! :-( |
| 16:19.22 | Patlabor221 | what is wrong with that? |
| 16:19.54 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 16:19.58 | Patlabor221 | it's just a computer |
| 16:20.03 | Nidhoggr | which dell is it? |
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| 16:20.08 | creeperz | No idea |
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| 16:20.57 | creeperz | My dad saw an ad on TV though for a Dell for $500 with a CD-ROM - DVD-ROM combo drive and a CD-RW |
| 16:21.04 | Patlabor221 | it's just a computer you can put what ever you want on it. You can remove all the dell software if you want |
| 16:21.13 | Patlabor221 | ohh it'll be a little celly then |
| 16:21.22 | creeperz | ? |
| 16:21.27 | Patlabor221 | celleron |
| 16:21.33 | creeperz | Oh |
| 16:21.58 | Patlabor221 | hmm or maybe even a P4 2.2 |
| 16:22.03 | Patlabor221 | those are cheap |
| 16:22.19 | Patlabor221 | will be a lot faster then what you have now |
| 16:22.29 | creeperz | Yea |
| 16:22.31 | Nidhoggr | ah... the new dell P4 3.3mhz is supposed to be incredible. |
| 16:22.39 | creeperz | Really? |
| 16:23.18 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:23.25 | creeperz | Great. There might be ANOTHER tornado tonight :-) |
| 16:23.31 | sussudio | i bet it makes your linux console go like lightning'n'stuff. |
| 16:23.31 | Nidhoggr | eek |
| 16:23.44 | creeperz | Last night was cool |
| 16:23.48 | Nidhoggr | I don't miss being in tornado country. |
| 16:23.57 | creeperz | Where did you live?\ |
| 16:24.07 | Nidhoggr | wisconsin |
| 16:25.07 | creeperz | Oh :-) |
| 16:25.15 | Nidhoggr | brb |
| 16:26.21 | creeperz | "When you're livin' in a bubble and yu haven't got a clue. SPACEBALLS!" |
| 16:26.33 | creeperz | :-) |
| 16:27.53 | creeperz | ~balls |
| 16:27.53 | | When you're livin' in a bubble and yu haven't got a clue. SPACEBALLS! |
| 16:28.18 | creeperz | The sky has been gray all morning |
| 16:29.04 | learner | Seriously -- probably just timing |
| 16:30.55 | sussudio | yay. w2k sp4. |
| 16:34.13 | creeperz | Woah |
| 16:34.48 | creeperz | I just put in my black and my blue light in my socket. It's really odd |
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| 16:36.08 | Patlabor221 | awwww I upset Carnage, now I feel soo bad for myself |
| 16:36.24 | creeperz | Carnage? |
| 16:36.31 | Patlabor221 | a yup |
| 16:36.39 | creeperz | What is Carnage? |
| 16:36.47 | Patlabor221 | now what who |
| 16:37.19 | creeperz | Wha'? |
| 16:37.29 | sussudio | Carnagepig? |
| 16:37.31 | Patlabor221 | long story, don't wory about it |
| 16:37.49 | Patlabor221 | not every comment is directed at you creeper :) |
| 16:37.50 | creeperz | Aowww K |
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| 16:38.01 | creeperz | I know this ;-) |
| 16:38.05 | Nidhoggr | hrm... for some reason when I have speed cheaters, it doesn't kick them... it just logs them. |
| 16:38.10 | Patlabor221 | so you say |
| 16:38.21 | Patlabor221 | what is your speedtol set to? |
| 16:38.32 | creeperz | I just wanted to know what the hell you were talking about |
| 16:38.38 | Patlabor221 | a cheater |
| 16:38.50 | Patlabor221 | not cell |
| 16:38.52 | Nidhoggr | -speedtol 2 |
| 16:38.53 | Patlabor221 | read bzbb |
| 16:39.09 | Patlabor221 | well it won't kick them unless they are going 2x faster then norm |
| 16:39.09 | Nidhoggr | and I've had speeds of 99 not get kicked. |
| 16:39.13 | Patlabor221 | ooo |
| 16:39.14 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 16:39.17 | newbs | anyone know a server that dosent freak out and kick me for lag |
| 16:39.30 | creeperz | Heh! |
| 16:39.32 | Nidhoggr | why is your lag so bad? |
| 16:39.38 | Nidhoggr | you on dialup? |
| 16:39.40 | newbs | im on a 56k |
| 16:39.46 | bzgirl | newbs: where do you live? |
| 16:39.51 | newbs | il |
| 16:39.55 | creeperz | AOLer! :-) |
| 16:40.00 | newbs | nope |
| 16:40.01 | Patlabor221 | no, he's not |
| 16:40.04 | newbs | shawneelinker! |
| 16:40.15 | creeperz | MOMMY! |
| 16:40.43 | learner | hi, newbs -- again |
| 16:40.49 | newbs | hah! |
| 16:40.53 | newbs | hi |
| 16:41.34 | creeperz | 3 tornados in Sioux Falls |
| 16:41.47 | creeperz | And a HUGE one ripped through Manchester |
| 16:41.49 | Nidhoggr | hopefully tomorrow I can buy a dlink cable router and fix our multiple player problems. |
| 16:49.02 | prot-work | its amazing...i'm the first one here, at almost 11am |
| 17:00.13 | creeperz | Mountain time |
| 17:01.29 | Patlabor221 | zulu time! |
| 17:02.45 | creeperz | boulder, colorado |
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| 17:15.53 | creeperz | middletown, new jersey |
| 17:16.05 | creeperz | ? |
| 17:16.10 | creeperz | Hh |
| 17:17.03 | creeperz | LOL!! |
| 17:17.31 | creeperz | I just witnessed a squirell explode! |
| 17:18.06 | sussudio | you bastard |
| 17:18.39 | creeperz | It was walking on the powerline and touched the pole |
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| 17:19.07 | sussudio | sure it did |
| 17:19.32 | creeperz | Need to clean that up later |
| 17:19.59 | sussudio | clean it up the WV way? |
| 17:20.28 | lurgy-cires | prot-work: ridiculous easterners |
| 17:20.30 | creeperz | WV? |
| 17:20.33 | lurgy-cires | :) |
| 17:20.36 | sussudio | west virginia |
| 17:20.49 | sussudio | "we be having squirrel stew tanaight paw!" |
| 17:21.13 | creeperz | hehe |
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| 17:22.11 | yoyox | Hi-) |
| 17:22.16 | creeperz | Hello |
| 17:23.25 | yoyox | Sorry. :( |
| 17:23.36 | creeperz | Heh |
| 17:29.11 | sussudio | man, the w2k sp4 fix list is funny |
| 17:29.24 | sussudio | "16-Bit Programs May Not Update the Screen on Processors Faster Than 2.0 GHz" |
| 17:29.42 | Patlabor221 | I never installed sp4 on my 2k machiens, it was "funky" |
| 17:29.58 | sussudio | umm you never installed it cause it's not officially out yet |
| 17:30.06 | Patlabor221 | no we had it |
| 17:30.11 | Patlabor221 | MSDN |
| 17:30.14 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 17:30.15 | creeperz | UUGH! |
| 17:30.16 | sussudio | :-| |
| 17:30.37 | sussudio | "No Audio on a Web Camera When You Resume from Hibernation" < mkaaay.... |
| 17:31.12 | sussudio | "One-Hour Delay Occurs During Startup with a USB Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse" |
| 17:31.13 | sussudio | ... |
| 17:31.20 | Nidhoggr | sometimes I wanna put the word "cheater" in the badwords.txt |
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| 17:32.26 | creeperz | Sometimes I want to toss my computer out of my window and climb on my roof and see how far it can "fly"...but I don't :-) |
| 17:32.44 | Nidhoggr | :) |
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| 17:33.00 | creeperz | I threw potatoes at squirrels! |
| 17:33.20 | creeperz | Squirrels can fly |
| 17:33.24 | sussudio | pig |
| 17:33.50 | creeperz | "We're not gunna kill 'em. We're foing to just help them fly" |
| 17:33.58 | creeperz | going* |
| 17:35.35 | creeperz | ~balls |
| 17:35.36 | | When you're livin' in a bubble and yu haven't got a clue. SPACEBALLS! |
| 17:38.46 | sussudio | by all means. |
| 17:39.41 | creeperz | sussudio: Did you sick your bot on me? :-) |
| 17:43.36 | Patlabor221 | ohhh man, cap musta been in the code again, look at all the warnings |
| 17:44.12 | creeperz | I...can't...see! |
| 17:44.49 | prot-work | Patlabor221: har har har |
| 17:45.08 | Patlabor221 | dude, seriously |
| 17:45.15 | Patlabor221 | tho I bet it was MAC |
| 17:45.27 | Patlabor221 | it's on like 3000 warnings now |
| 17:45.48 | Patlabor221 | 7015 warnings |
| 17:46.07 | creeperz | :-) |
| 17:46.15 | Patlabor221 | it is the lame warning |
| 17:46.20 | Patlabor221 | bet a header was changed |
| 17:46.32 | prot-work | the lame warning? |
| 17:46.46 | Patlabor221 | the template over 256 |
| 17:46.52 | Patlabor221 | the lame windows warning |
| 17:47.01 | Patlabor221 | the one we #paragma out |
| 17:47.18 | prot-work | ah |
| 17:47.22 | Patlabor221 | I'm making a windows build of CVS for rabbitness |
| 17:47.26 | prot-work | silly windows builds :) |
| 17:47.38 | Patlabor221 | yeah I hate that warning too |
| 17:47.42 | creeperz | Yea. Dell infomercials |
| 17:47.50 | Patlabor221 | I have a component that will get rid of it |
| 17:47.56 | creeperz | A corny joke already! |
| 17:47.57 | Patlabor221 | just need to install it |
| 17:48.07 | creeperz | "Look ma'. No wires!" |
| 17:50.37 | creeperz | That chick is psychotic |
| 17:53.29 | lurgy-cires | there must be an epidemic of mental illness among the chickens |
| 17:53.44 | Patlabor221 | it's inbreeding I say |
| 17:54.55 | lurgy-cires | i guess it doesn't help that all the upper class royalty chickens will only breed with other royalty |
| 17:55.24 | creeperz | Haha |
| 17:55.27 | Patlabor221 | well there is what usualy 1 rooster for how many chickens, that can't be good for the gene pool |
| 17:55.42 | sussudio | NOW THEY'VE COME TO SNUFF THE ROOSTER |
| 17:55.45 | sussudio | BUT HE AINT GONNA DIEEEEEEEEE |
| 17:56.11 | prot-work | can someone connect to my server? |
| 17:56.36 | sussudio | yes, someone can |
| 17:57.02 | prot-work | hrm |
| 17:57.08 | prot-work | is that you sussudio? |
| 17:57.41 | sussudio | is it? |
| 17:57.49 | prot-work | er |
| 17:58.04 | bryjen | any bets on anon cvs working? |
| 17:58.13 | sussudio | now what |
| 17:58.15 | Patlabor221 | you mean like and be accurate? |
| 17:58.22 | Patlabor221 | or just work in general? |
| 17:58.34 | bryjen | complete a cvs update without dieing |
| 17:58.43 | prot-work | sussudio: if it is you, are you king? |
| 17:58.45 | prot-work | or just rogue |
| 17:59.03 | sussudio | rogue |
| 17:59.15 | prot-work | ok |
| 17:59.21 | Patlabor221 | august they say |
| 17:59.27 | sussudio | it said i was king on learner's server :-P |
| 18:00.06 | Patlabor221 | cap, I wonder if you can have the snaper commit the same changes to an asgard anon cvs mirror |
| 18:00.28 | sussudio | windows 2000 command prompt full screen kinda hurts your eyes on a 21" monitor |
| 18:00.53 | prot-work | Patlabor221: possible but messy |
| 18:01.09 | prot-work | ok, someone connect again |
| 18:01.25 | Patlabor221 | what if we didn't care about history or comments? |
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| 18:03.12 | prot-work | Patlabor221: still messy in how it would have to be done |
| 18:03.17 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 18:03.32 | prot-work | i think for now the snaps provide a working solution |
| 18:03.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 18:04.07 | Patlabor221 | but they aren't "Slick" |
| 18:04.23 | prot-work | ok, i think i found the error |
| 18:04.25 | prot-work | someone join :) |
| 18:04.35 | prot-work | war! |
| 18:04.43 | prot-work | it works |
| 18:08.12 | sussudio | ~slick |
| 18:08.17 | | Shut up, Doug. |
| 18:08.35 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: assign kingship to the first player to join, remove debuggative cruft |
| 18:08.55 | Noodleman | sussudio: why the consuming antipathy for doug? |
| 18:12.17 | prot-work | i think koth is rock-solid now |
| 18:12.26 | prot-work | that was the last issue that i knew of |
| 18:13.29 | bzgirl | prot-work: i just played sussusio, was leading 4-1 (as usual)..... |
| 18:13.48 | bzgirl | he then killed me....so its 4-2 |
| 18:13.55 | bzgirl | but he got king |
| 18:14.08 | bzgirl | is that the formula being weird maybe? |
| 18:14.38 | bzgirl | (wins - losses) * wins/10 |
| 18:16.06 | prot-work | bzgirl: if you die, you don't get assigned kingship |
| 18:16.24 | Patlabor221 | untill the next kill? |
| 18:16.27 | prot-work | i mean...if you're the king, and you die, it will assign it to the highest alive player |
| 18:16.39 | Patlabor221 | what bout when you respawn? |
| 18:16.49 | prot-work | then you have to kill the new king |
| 18:17.00 | Patlabor221 | or someone does |
| 18:17.06 | sussudio | is there a point to being king? |
| 18:17.14 | Patlabor221 | you are white |
| 18:17.21 | Patlabor221 | this is why I think king needs V |
| 18:17.25 | sussudio | yes, i don't like the sun :-| |
| 18:17.26 | Patlabor221 | as a reward |
| 18:18.04 | sussudio | Pepsi X tastes like rootbeer |
| 18:18.10 | prot-work | what needs to happen is that in king games all the non-king players should be teamed |
| 18:18.17 | prot-work | so killing someone other than the king is a team kill |
| 18:18.34 | Patlabor221 | or just disable non king kills |
| 18:18.40 | Patlabor221 | thats what they do in CTC |
| 18:19.32 | Patlabor221 | cus as it is now, I could "cheat" by just letting somone else kill me a lot |
| 18:19.37 | Patlabor221 | to inflate there score |
| 18:19.52 | Patlabor221 | and they could upsurp with out fireing a shot at the king |
| 18:20.16 | Patlabor221 | or is it usurp? |
| 18:20.32 | stibnite | upsurpers! |
| 18:20.34 | stibnite | oh my |
| 18:21.08 | stibnite | yar, usurp |
| 18:21.16 | stibnite | what am i doing speaking |
| 18:21.26 | Noodleman | http://homestarrunner.com/pop_tire.html |
| 18:21.34 | prot-work | Patlabor221: well, the king has to die for someone else to be annointed |
| 18:21.37 | Patlabor221 | my best is 106 |
| 18:21.45 | prot-work | and if you're intentionally sucking, thats your problem |
| 18:21.56 | Patlabor221 | ok so I get to like 15 kills over the king, somone else kills him and boom, I'm king |
| 18:22.06 | prot-work | yeah |
| 18:22.40 | Patlabor221 | if it's suposed to be a "chase" type game I would make hunters not be able to shoot eatch other, or as you say peanalise them |
| 18:23.15 | prot-work | i think the team thing needs to happen |
| 18:23.28 | prot-work | and then if we add team-invuln, that option can just carry over |
| 18:23.33 | Patlabor221 | a king with geno would suck |
| 18:23.37 | Patlabor221 | big time |
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| 18:25.16 | prot-work | hehe |
| 18:26.13 | Patlabor221 | I still think there should be some imediate reward for being king, since there are cases where you will not have the high score |
| 18:26.30 | Patlabor221 | in fact it's common that the #2 person will allmost allways be king |
| 18:26.42 | prot-work | you get those shiny white bullets... |
| 18:26.44 | prot-work | =) |
| 18:26.53 | Patlabor221 | whop de farkin doo :) |
| 18:27.17 | bryjen | or nice white boxes if youre missing the rgb's |
| 18:27.40 | prot-work | Patlabor221: you have to admit, white SB & L are purdy |
| 18:27.55 | Patlabor221 | yeah but game wise they offer me nothing |
| 18:28.06 | prot-work | indeed |
| 18:28.07 | Patlabor221 | you never read the books on game desing and psycology did you :) |
| 18:28.14 | Patlabor221 | Sex, lies , and videogames. |
| 18:28.43 | prot-work | we at least need the team thing |
| 18:28.47 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 18:28.56 | Patlabor221 | ooooo make the king have fatboy :) |
| 18:29.00 | prot-work | give all the peons a common enemy rather than having it be FFA with a white tank |
| 18:29.03 | Patlabor221 | higher the lead the fatter it gets |
| 18:29.10 | Patlabor221 | yeah that will help |
| 18:29.16 | Patlabor221 | still thing V would work |
| 18:29.26 | bryjen | are all the others tanks green with envy? |
| 18:29.53 | Patlabor221 | no they are black, they are trying to get whitie |
| 18:30.42 | bryjen | lets not start _that_ again |
| 18:30.47 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 18:31.02 | Patlabor221 | fatboy FFA would be funny |
| 18:31.10 | Patlabor221 | and kinda easy to implement I think |
| 18:31.12 | prot-work | Patlabor221: that sounds more like the handicapped style |
| 18:31.35 | Patlabor221 | what noteamkill? |
| 18:31.48 | Patlabor221 | most games have firendlyfire settings |
| 18:31.51 | prot-work | no the fattiness |
| 18:31.55 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 18:31.59 | Patlabor221 | it's a difrent hting |
| 18:32.00 | bryjen | meebee shooting a teammate should terminate the shot, so its still annoying and to be avoided, but not kill your teammate for you bad aim |
| 18:32.22 | Patlabor221 | yeah it would stop the shot |
| 18:32.32 | Patlabor221 | fatboy is fun in UT |
| 18:32.37 | Patlabor221 | I was allways HUGE!!! :) |
| 18:32.43 | Patlabor221 | with a snipe :) |
| 18:33.03 | Patlabor221 | named StayPuft! |
| 18:34.17 | Patlabor221 | cap did you add the hunter patch to cvs? |
| 18:34.29 | prot-work | Patlabor221: a while ago, yes |
| 18:34.38 | Patlabor221 | auto hunt the king |
| 18:34.45 | Patlabor221 | when there is a change of power |
| 18:35.06 | Patlabor221 | puts the emphais on getin him |
| 18:35.19 | prot-work | hm |
| 18:35.26 | prot-work | some people won |
| 18:35.28 | prot-work | t like the noises |
| 18:35.38 | prot-work | but the flasy radar might work |
| 18:35.39 | Patlabor221 | so they can pull the wave |
| 18:35.48 | Patlabor221 | I would like the sound |
| 18:36.08 | Patlabor221 | unless the sound is lame |
| 18:36.20 | prot-work | sound is kinda lame :) |
| 18:36.21 | Patlabor221 | I wanted a "bing" or something when there was a change of power |
| 18:36.26 | bryjen | its good unless its bad |
| 18:36.27 | Patlabor221 | well then lets fix the sound |
| 18:36.50 | prot-work | i like the selection sound, but the jaws-type "approach" thing is a bit irritating |
| 18:37.00 | Patlabor221 | yeah it is |
| 18:37.10 | Patlabor221 | I will see if I can find a more subtle thing |
| 18:37.22 | Patlabor221 | like a light "whoot whoot" in the bacground |
| 18:38.51 | Patlabor221 | cap your last commit was server only right? |
| 18:40.30 | prot-work | right |
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| 18:57.40 | learnerAtWork | hola |
| 19:00.02 | creeperz | Hallo |
| 19:00.05 | creeperz | ~balls |
| 19:00.06 | | When you're livin' in a bubble and yu haven't got a clue. SPACEBALLS! |
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| 19:01.32 | BZSpiff | Hey all. :) |
| 19:01.46 | creeperz | Hey |
| 19:02.14 | BZSpiff | I just tried out the latest win binary (bzg posted on the message board)..... and now.... when I am "The King of the Hill"...... my bullets come out as big white squares. |
| 19:02.59 | learnerAtWork | that's because bzg missed the resources.. :) |
| 19:03.00 | BZSpiff | Sort of like when you get a bad game console emulator, and there are squares around the models (or sprites).... but it's just a flat white cube... no texture at all. |
| 19:03.16 | BZSpiff | Ahhhhh |
| 19:03.29 | BZSpiff | Ic Ic. |
| 19:03.46 | sussudio | ~castrate creeperz |
| 19:03.48 | | creeperz: say AAAAAAAAAAAARRGGH! |
| 19:04.02 | creeperz | Eww |
| 19:04.05 | creeperz | :-) |
| 19:04.11 | sussudio | no more ~balls :-| |
| 19:04.18 | creeperz | Hah |
| 19:04.23 | learnerAtWork | spiff, go to http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=496659&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 19:04.25 | creeperz | ibot, forget balls |
| 19:04.25 | | creeperz: i forgot balls |
| 19:04.27 | BZSpiff | Don't you have to have them to begin with? ;) |
| 19:04.28 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 19:04.38 | learnerAtWork | and download the three rgb files near the bottom |
| 19:04.51 | learnerAtWork | put them in your data/resources directory |
| 19:05.16 | creeperz | I'm not allowed to post news on SBO |
| 19:05.56 | creeperz | :-( |
| 19:06.14 | creeperz | "Repeat offenders are not allowed to post news!" |
| 19:06.35 | creeperz | I feel so lost! |
| 19:07.36 | sussudio | ~forget castrate |
| 19:07.36 | | i didn't have anything called 'castrate', sussudio |
| 19:07.49 | learnerAtWork | lol, nice try sussudio |
| 19:07.52 | sussudio | ~forget CMD: castrate (.*?) |
| 19:07.52 | | sussudio: i didn't have anything called 'cmd: castrate (.*?)' |
| 19:07.55 | sussudio | hah. |
| 19:08.00 | BZSpiff | Works fine now learner. :) |
| 19:08.10 | BZSpiff | But I still get an error when I close the client. |
| 19:08.11 | creeperz | ~forget castrate $1 |
| 19:08.11 | | i didn't have anything called 'castrate $1', creeperz |
| 19:08.19 | sussudio | ~literal castrate |
| 19:08.24 | creeperz | Ohh You very sneaky American! |
| 19:08.28 | BZSpiff | Has anyone figured out why that happens yet? |
| 19:08.38 | learnerAtWork | spiff, would you post a message to the board with those instructions? |
| 19:08.47 | BZSpiff | Sure thing. |
| 19:08.53 | learnerAtWork | thx |
| 19:09.47 | BZSpiff | Yw. |
| 19:09.53 | creeperz | ~forget castrate $2 |
| 19:09.53 | | i didn't have anything called 'castrate $2', creeperz |
| 19:12.41 | creeperz | ibot: You're an idiot! |
| 19:12.42 | | I know I am, but what am I! |
| 19:12.48 | creeperz | :-) |
| 19:13.06 | creeperz | Is OSX Unix? |
| 19:13.15 | learnerAtWork | yes (sorta) |
| 19:13.52 | learnerAtWork | it's not an SCO officially branded "UNIX" |
| 19:14.04 | learnerAtWork | it's BSD, basically |
| 19:14.06 | creeperz | Hmm |
| 19:14.12 | creeperz | Ok |
| 19:15.00 | BZSpiff | Well... I just got out of the lake.... shower time. C-ya all in a bit. |
| 19:15.12 | learnerAtWork | bitch |
| 19:15.15 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 19:15.26 | BZSpiff | Green is not your color. ;) |
| 19:15.35 | BZSpiff | Or is it? 0:) |
| 19:15.56 | BZSpiff | Anywayz... be back in a bit. |
| 19:17.47 | creeperz | ibot: You're still an idiot |
| 19:17.52 | | :-) |
| 19:18.08 | learnerAtWork | leave ibot alone, please |
| 19:18.39 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 19:20.11 | creeperz | Heh |
| 19:20.21 | creeperz | 1812? |
| 19:21.37 | learnerAtWork | 1492? |
| 19:22.53 | creeperz | Heh |
| 19:24.45 | creeperz | Or does anyone know of one? |
| 19:25.29 | creeperz | So when I get my new computer the 20th of August, I will be making ALOT of 3D models |
| 19:26.15 | creeperz | Then when I learn C++, I'm going to make a game where you race other punk kids on lawn mowers |
| 19:26.26 | creeperz | :-) |
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| 19:32.41 | BZSpiff | I'm back. :) |
| 19:33.43 | learnerAtWork | you're still dirty, boy -- go back an' scrub dem ears! |
| 19:34.11 | creeperz | :-) |
| 19:34.23 | BZSpiff | Hey... I use Curve soap.... I smell fine.... trust me. LoL |
| 19:35.04 | learnerAtWork | That's not soap I smell.. |
| 19:35.16 | creeperz | Sorry. I let one go |
| 19:35.20 | BZSpiff | Must be your own breath blowing back in your face then. :P |
| 19:35.26 | learnerAtWork | heh, creeperz |
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| 19:42.49 | creeperz | Has anyone seen my left pinky? It seems to be missing |
| 19:44.47 | creeperz | Cool |
| 19:44.50 | creeperz | http://www.fookes.com/notetab/index.php |
| 19:47.16 | creeperz | Ahh |
| 19:47.19 | creeperz | I'm hurt |
| 19:48.43 | creeperz | UUGH@ |
| 19:48.54 | creeperz | Me need Windows! |
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| 19:49.48 | creeperz | Server drop |
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| 19:55.16 | creeperz | Who invented Ethernet? |
| 19:55.39 | creeperz | Anyone? |
| 19:55.58 | creeperz | Anyone? |
| 19:56.06 | Patlabor221 | Sir Austin Ether in the UK |
| 19:56.21 | creeperz | You're lyin' |
| 19:56.26 | creeperz | :-) |
| 19:56.26 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 19:56.33 | Patlabor221 | ask in #computers |
| 19:57.01 | creeperz | Noone there |
| 19:57.23 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Hold off on the gcc 3.3 update for a bit |
| 19:57.40 | Patlabor221 | I'd search the topic list for an apropriate chanel then |
| 19:58.18 | creeperz | Bob Metcalfe |
| 19:59.00 | Patlabor221 | I'm very happy forhim |
| 19:59.13 | creeperz | Me too |
| 19:59.45 | prot-work | creeperz: google is your friend :P |
| 19:59.51 | creeperz | Heh |
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| 20:04.21 | Patlabor221 | cap did you you add the new rgbs as text perhaps? |
| 20:04.26 | Patlabor221 | as they are "jacked" |
| 20:07.06 | Patlabor221 | yup ya did |
| 20:10.13 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: removed white images, they are text |
| 20:11.29 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Added white images as binary |
| 20:12.44 | learnerAtWork | jb, i heard -- pb doesn't work with 3.3 |
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| 20:20.08 | prot-work | Patlabor221: learner added them ;) |
| 20:20.30 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 20:20.35 | learnerAtWork | what'd I do? |
| 20:21.13 | learnerAtWork | I added the files that were in the patch.. |
| 20:21.15 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: added the data files as text |
| 20:21.23 | prot-work | you need to do cvs add -kb to tell CVS that they're binary files |
| 20:21.30 | learnerAtWork | ah.. cvs |
| 20:21.32 | learnerAtWork | yes. |
| 20:21.34 | prot-work | cvs sucks :) |
| 20:21.47 | Patlabor221 | text bad |
| 20:21.57 | learnerAtWork | i usually don't care if it makes N copies |
| 20:22.26 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: It has some problems with finding include files. |
| 20:22.30 | learnerAtWork | for my own projects, that is |
| 20:23.12 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: among other issues |
| 20:23.24 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: have you used it yet? |
| 20:23.39 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: has the compile time increased? |
| 20:23.45 | learnerAtWork | er, decreased.. |
| 20:23.47 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: who cares about copies? the issue is that binary files get munged by cvs if they're not specified as binary |
| 20:23.51 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: I just tried it on the ibook |
| 20:24.17 | Patlabor221 | all the 10's in the image were turned into 13s and 10s on my machine |
| 20:24.20 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: the problems with pb make it untestable for compile time issues |
| 20:24.24 | Patlabor221 | the image got FUNKY |
| 20:24.45 | learnerAtWork | ah -- newline differences, etc. gotcha pat, cap. |
| 20:24.49 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:25.02 | Patlabor221 | most clients do the newline stuff when they get the file |
| 20:25.38 | Patlabor221 | now I know cap did this one :) |
| 20:25.38 | Patlabor221 | i redefine |
| 20:25.41 | learnerAtWork | right.. our projects/setup don't have that problem so I'm not used to worrying abou tit.. :) |
| 20:25.46 | Patlabor221 | ooooo |
| 20:26.19 | learnerAtWork | So who's doing the patch to rename everything to "Rabbit Chase"? |
| 20:26.43 | learnerAtWork | ~dict rabbit |
| 20:26.43 | Patlabor221 | or it would be ribbit chaseee |
| 20:27.00 | bryjen | rabid cheese |
| 20:27.07 | prot-work | Patlabor221: no reason to do that unless we have a different koth style :P |
| 20:27.11 | Patlabor221 | oooo that's worse :) |
| 20:28.09 | bryjen | how would you make a hill ? |
| 20:28.20 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 20:28.20 | Patlabor221 | mapfield |
| 20:28.28 | learnerAtWork | girls map has a pretty cool hill up right now |
| 20:28.33 | Patlabor221 | or add a base :) |
| 20:28.35 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: 'i' defined in scope as 2 difrent things, changed one to playerid |
| 20:29.00 | bryjen | ah, fixed boxes in the world ? |
| 20:29.05 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:29.09 | Patlabor221 | like say a single base |
| 20:29.16 | Patlabor221 | you stay on that and get points |
| 20:29.20 | prot-work | Patlabor221: don't blame me for VC++'s broken for scoping ;) |
| 20:29.42 | Patlabor221 | well this was also bad variable names :) |
| 20:29.44 | Patlabor221 | one was int |
| 20:29.48 | Patlabor221 | one was a playerID |
| 20:29.51 | learnerAtWork | or someone could just get sloped terrain to work |
| 20:29.54 | bryjen | if its just a area on the ground its not a hill. |
| 20:30.20 | Patlabor221 | the ramp thing isn't just a "Geting it to work" think |
| 20:30.28 | Patlabor221 | it's biger then that |
| 20:30.53 | learnerAtWork | hehe.. details .. details.. |
| 20:31.02 | Patlabor221 | it's all in the details |
| 20:31.12 | bryjen | meebee for custom maps, the king would have to stay above a given altitude |
| 20:31.44 | Patlabor221 | you could but the "hill" box up in the air. |
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| 20:33.37 | bryjen | be nice to be able to move around on a custom hill constructed of many boxes instead of just a flat base |
| 20:34.00 | Patlabor221 | you could use multiple bases |
| 20:34.14 | prot-work | you could use a "king team" base as the hill :) |
| 20:34.19 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 20:34.28 | bryjen | heh, i see a new property for box objects : isHill |
| 20:34.38 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 20:35.17 | Patlabor221 | since the map will now be sent text and skip any known fields, it's easy to add new stuff like that. |
| 20:35.54 | learnerAtWork | looks like dogs is sick |
| 20:35.59 | learnerAtWork | ~rose |
| 20:36.59 | bryjen | so what happens if I add a new object that your client doesnt understand ? can you still join ? |
| 20:38.25 | Patlabor221 | well the map reader will just skip it |
| 20:38.38 | prot-work | it'd be nice to have some sort of negotiation logic where the client can notify the server if it doesn't understand something in the world, and the server can say if the client should be allowed to continue ;) |
| 20:38.44 | Patlabor221 | it's up to the server/client in the patch to negociate the thing |
| 20:38.50 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:39.00 | Patlabor221 | HOTH does something now dosn't it |
| 20:39.14 | Patlabor221 | to know if you are "Koth enabled", right? |
| 20:39.43 | larsl_56k | Yes, the client crashes if it isn't. =) |
| 20:39.49 | learnerAtWork | yea.. if you're not the client crashes.. |
| 20:39.51 | learnerAtWork | heh |
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| 20:40.20 | bryjen | so if i added, for example, a sphere object to my programs and map, would you just not see it? |
| 20:40.25 | *** join/#bzflag gallo (netbit@c-241571d5.05-19-65736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:41.01 | Patlabor221 | no it does a thing, "you are not able to cary flags on this server" then you don't join |
| 20:41.18 | Patlabor221 | well right now it would not load the map |
| 20:41.25 | Patlabor221 | when I am done it will skip it |
| 20:41.35 | Patlabor221 | and throw a warning |
| 20:41.47 | Patlabor221 | same goes for malformed objects |
| 20:42.03 | gallo | game at my ip |
| 20:42.34 | Patlabor221 | after 1.9 and some of the cleanup stuff I plan on adding an arbitrary model object |
| 20:42.51 | Patlabor221 | so then you could have your sphere |
| 20:43.08 | bryjen | just skipping it and going on isnt good. it should fail gracefully. |
| 20:43.08 | larsl_56k | Animated textures would be cool too. =) |
| 20:43.18 | Patlabor221 | yeah but they take a lot of mem |
| 20:43.24 | Patlabor221 | since there is no GL format for them |
| 20:43.31 | larsl_56k | I see. |
| 20:43.37 | Patlabor221 | I can do animated models, like the chicken |
| 20:43.53 | Patlabor221 | for anim textures, you have to expand each frame into a real texture |
| 20:44.42 | larsl_56k | So for 10 frames (that only were subtly different) I'd need 10 times as much memory. |
| 20:44.44 | creeperz | Nope |
| 20:44.48 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:44.49 | creeperz | Still gone :-( |
| 20:45.09 | Patlabor221 | or modify the texutre at run time |
| 20:45.12 | Patlabor221 | and that takes CPU |
| 20:45.23 | Patlabor221 | so it's ether ram or cpu you lose |
| 20:45.31 | bryjen | play mpeg video on the side of a box ? |
| 20:45.32 | larsl_56k | Are there any hardware support for blending a texture into another? |
| 20:45.39 | larsl_56k | Is. |
| 20:45.48 | Patlabor221 | sure, multi texture and stuff |
| 20:45.53 | Patlabor221 | and the shaders |
| 20:45.56 | gallo | game at 213.113.21.36:5515 |
| 20:46.20 | bryjen | now there's an avenue for abuse |
| 20:46.36 | larsl_56k | Video would be cool. =) |
| 20:47.04 | Patlabor221 | there is hardware support on some cards for hardware video decompression into a texture |
| 20:47.13 | Patlabor221 | just not in GL |
| 20:47.28 | larsl_56k | It could show movies of recent BZFlag games on that server. =) |
| 20:47.51 | bryjen | and still leave bandwidth to play? |
| 20:48.03 | larsl_56k | You want to _play_ too? |
| 20:48.05 | Patlabor221 | depends how you did it |
| 20:48.28 | larsl_56k | It could be a loop that was downloaded when you joined. |
| 20:49.27 | Patlabor221 | it would kill any software renderer |
| 20:49.45 | Patlabor221 | and trash the texture mem of any hardware |
| 20:49.53 | Patlabor221 | or make you hit system ram for that one |
| 20:50.01 | Patlabor221 | or you could hack up some agp thing |
| 20:50.44 | bryjen | heh. I'da figured Patlabor221 would be all over getting anime clips into BZ |
| 20:51.15 | Patlabor221 | I'm not a big fan of anoying looping video :) |
| 20:51.54 | Patlabor221 | and there are other ways |
| 20:52.06 | Patlabor221 | I'd rather have better model and texture support |
| 20:52.15 | BZSpiff | Someone want to come to rose and kick some annoying spammer by the callsign "fdsa"????? He keeps flooding the channel with the same messages over and over... and being rude. |
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| 20:52.26 | Patlabor221 | the curent flat dir one shot load texture dir ain't gonna cut it for longer |
| 20:52.34 | prot-work | Patlabor221: i really think you need to have a way for the server to tell the client if certain map parameters are critical or not |
| 20:52.55 | Patlabor221 | yeah cap that would be a good thing |
| 20:53.10 | Patlabor221 | do world object negotiation like is done for flags |
| 20:53.22 | Patlabor221 | that's how screamers was going to do it |
| 20:53.23 | bryjen | that's what i was getting at a while ago |
| 20:53.32 | Patlabor221 | ask the client wat objects are registerd |
| 20:53.42 | Patlabor221 | and make sure it's got all the ones it has |
| 20:53.48 | prot-work | it doesn't need to be quite as anal as flag nego - some world items could potentially be ignorable |
| 20:53.58 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:54.37 | larsl_56k | How anal is the flag negotiations? Which flags is the client allowed to ignore? |
| 20:55.17 | prot-work | larsl_56k: none of them |
| 20:55.30 | prot-work | if the server is using a flag that the client doesn't know about, the client isn't allowed in |
| 20:55.38 | larsl_56k | That's good. |
| 20:56.04 | bryjen | prot-work: none of them the server knows about, or none of them that are allowed in this instance? |
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| 20:57.39 | Patlabor221 | the client has to ack that it knows about every flag the server uses |
| 20:57.44 | Patlabor221 | the client can know about more |
| 20:57.52 | creeperz | Umm, yes. We're non-profit. |
| 20:57.59 | Patlabor221 | but if the client can't deal with a flag, then it can't play |
| 20:58.01 | prot-work | the server can know about more too so longg as they aren't used in the current game |
| 20:58.03 | creeperz | But we bill your insurance and they bill you |
| 20:58.36 | bryjen | if I've disabled the new super-shock-whatsits flag, it shouldnt matter if the client doesn't know about it |
| 20:58.50 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:58.54 | prot-work | bryjen: thus why we're saying *used in the current game* |
| 21:00.07 | bryjen | prot-work: I hadn't processed your longer reply to lars before asking. sorry 'bout that |
| 21:00.26 | Patlabor221 | we need to overclock our heads :) |
| 21:00.51 | BZSpiff | Just an idea.... I think someone should start a new team.... maybe an all girls team.... "Heaven on Heels"... LoL. |
| 21:00.57 | BZSpiff | That'd tick Barrel off. ;) |
| 21:01.07 | bryjen | Patlabor221: I'm not putting a heat sink on my head. |
| 21:01.24 | Patlabor221 | get a peltzer coil then |
| 21:01.27 | prot-work | BZSpiff: umm...can you grow some tact? :P |
| 21:01.40 | creeperz | :-0 |
| 21:01.40 | creeperz | bzspiff; More then you realize ;-) |
| 21:01.54 | sussudio | prot-work: remember the "if you use my clan sign i will kick you"? |
| 21:01.56 | bryjen | Patlabor221: Or one of those hats with the little propellor for a fan. |
| 21:02.04 | creeperz | August 20 is when I am getting my new PC |
| 21:02.05 | Patlabor221 | YES! |
| 21:02.33 | Patlabor221 | do an in OS overclock, so you just need the cooler when you need to think hard :) |
| 21:02.33 | BZSpiff | Tact? I'm confused proton. :) |
| 21:02.48 | larsl_56k | That would look interesting - a hat with a running CPU cooler on it. |
| 21:03.13 | creeperz | Someone needs to make a patch where a 75x175 logo appears on the side of your tank |
| 21:04.07 | prot-work | BZSpiff: it just seems to me that you're uncomfortable with the idea of women playing bzflag, so you dote on them a lot :P |
| 21:04.08 | creeperz | And maybe if teammates are not visible out the window, it should show names above their tanks as to where they are |
| 21:04.10 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:04.34 | BZSpiff | Huh? *confused* Not at all. bzg still kicks my butt all the time. :) |
| 21:05.11 | gallo | game at 213.113.21.36:5515 |
| 21:05.18 | BZSpiff | And maybe it's just me......... but wouldn't guys on heels be gross? And heels rhymed with wheels.... :) |
| 21:05.21 | prot-work | BZSpiff: thats not what i said |
| 21:05.25 | learnerAtWork | ~nslookup 213.113.21.36 |
| 21:06.08 | JBDiGriz | Ouch, quit poking me! |
| 21:06.14 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 21:06.20 | bryjen | ~dict dote |
| 21:06.56 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: I just read through the 3.3 update notes.. what was the problem you said you saw? |
| 21:07.46 | JBDiGriz | PB didn't include the correct c++ files. It looked like it was reverting to 2.95, possibly since it was looking for 3.1 |
| 21:08.12 | creeperz | ~dict MOMMY! |
| 21:08.23 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:09.08 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: did you do the manual update to set CC CPLUSPLUS and GCC_VERSION? |
| 21:09.16 | learnerAtWork | within pb |
| 21:10.17 | BZSpiff | ~dict antidisestablishmentarianism |
| 21:10.25 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 21:10.32 | Patlabor221 | leve the bot alone please |
| 21:10.42 | creeperz | ~spell supercalifragilisticexpialidocious |
| 21:10.44 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' |
| 21:10.48 | BZSpiff | I was just wonderin' if it'd find that word.... but I guess it doesn't. :S |
| 21:10.56 | Patlabor221 | then /msg it |
| 21:10.58 | creeperz | ~dict supercalifragilisticexpialidocious |
| 21:11.12 | BZSpiff | You can PM the ibot? |
| 21:11.16 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 21:11.21 | creeperz | Yup |
| 21:11.24 | Patlabor221 | can can msg any user |
| 21:11.24 | BZSpiff | Hmm..... okies. |
| 21:11.25 | learnerAtWork | you spelled it wrong :) |
| 21:11.33 | BZSpiff | <<<<<<<<< IRC newbie. |
| 21:12.22 | creeperz | <<<<<<<<< Newbie. |
| 21:12.42 | BZSpiff | I did? Not according to dictionary.com. ;) |
| 21:12.46 | Patlabor221 | creeper you have been told to msg the bot many times |
| 21:12.47 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Nope, I'll try adding those as well. |
| 21:12.48 | Noodleman | gggyou guys are just a bunch of n00bs |
| 21:12.52 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 21:12.57 | learnerAtWork | not you, spiff |
| 21:13.07 | creeperz | I'm sorry |
| 21:13.11 | Chestal | balu: öhm, jiggle oder so? der esel hat nen link im webinterface |
| 21:13.13 | Chestal | oops |
| 21:13.16 | BZSpiff | Ahh... okies. :) |
| 21:13.17 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: apparenty they are requireed -- Expert View under Settings |
| 21:13.25 | BZSpiff | Yo Noodle! It's been a while. :) |
| 21:13.37 | Noodleman | and while your at it, PM Noodlebot :-) |
| 21:13.40 | Noodleman | hey |
| 21:13.41 | creeperz | BZSpiff: Go to #Noodlebot |
| 21:13.44 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:13.44 | Noodleman | sup? |
| 21:14.00 | BZSpiff | What is that creeperz? |
| 21:14.05 | BZSpiff | N2m. 'Sup with you? |
| 21:14.14 | Noodleman | the Noodlebot channel |
| 21:14.38 | BZSpiff | Oh. What's that do? :) |
| 21:14.50 | Noodleman | lots of stuff |
| 21:15.10 | Noodleman | it does stuff that ibot doesn't do, at least :-) |
| 21:15.23 | BZSpiff | Poor ibot. ;) |
| 21:15.27 | creeperz | ibot: You're an idiot |
| 21:15.28 | | creeperz: i haven't a clue |
| 21:15.34 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 21:17.13 | creeperz | ibot: You're still an idiot |
| 21:17.17 | | :-) |
| 21:17.33 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: It looks like it's worth waiting for a real update, or learning how to auto-add XML to PB files. |
| 21:17.35 | creeperz | Someone deleted the first part |
| 21:17.42 | creeperz | Paaaaaatttt |
| 21:17.44 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:17.45 | Patlabor221 | creeper what did I say about the bot |
| 21:17.51 | creeperz | Umm |
| 21:18.04 | creeperz | He's dum...no |
| 21:18.18 | learnerAtWork | perhaps |
| 21:18.18 | creeperz | Oh! |
| 21:18.25 | creeperz | He's useless! |
| 21:18.31 | creeperz | Hmm |
| 21:18.37 | *** kick/#bzflag [creeperz!~jeffm@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (grow up) |
| 21:18.38 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 21:18.46 | creeperz | Hmm |
| 21:18.54 | creeperz | Server musta dropped |
| 21:18.56 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:20.04 | creeperz | LOL! |
| 21:20.14 | BZSpiff | Oh geeez..... that face makes noises in Trillian. |
| 21:20.16 | BZSpiff | Nasty. |
| 21:20.22 | creeperz | I love the idea of "Under $3000" when it's $2999 |
| 21:20.41 | BZSpiff | You mean $2,999.99. ;) |
| 21:21.04 | BZSpiff | Or..... |
| 21:21.27 | BZSpiff | <small text> three easy payments of... <large text> $59.95! |
| 21:21.37 | Chestal | hurrah, I finally found and downloaded 'Night of the Demon' |
| 21:21.37 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:22.25 | BZSpiff | What is that Chestal? |
| 21:22.40 | *** part/#bzflag gallo (netbit@c-241571d5.05-19-65736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 21:23.05 | learnerAtWork | Chestal: that doesn't sound legal.. :) |
| 21:23.08 | Chestal | BZSpiff: a classic horror movie. I saw it once when I was young, and some years ago I remembered it and tried to find it anywhere, even wrote to the TV station that sent it here |
| 21:23.29 | BZSpiff | Ohhh... cool. :) |
| 21:23.32 | Chestal | learner: not quite, but it woudl be almost impossible for me to get it in a legal way, I have tried |
| 21:23.37 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 21:23.50 | learnerAtWork | just yanking chains |
| 21:24.23 | creeperz | Sorry. Someone stole my last chain |
| 21:24.47 | creeperz | You can't yank it! I won't let you! |
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| 21:27.55 | creeperz | :-( |
| 21:29.18 | JBDiGriz | cap'n seems to be into self-abuse today. |
| 21:30.39 | BZSpiff | CapN? Where? |
| 21:30.57 | BZSpiff | Oh... nevermind.... that cap. Doh! :) |
| 21:31.05 | larsl_56k | Does anyone know if there is a C++ keyword that will tell the default operator=() of a class not to copy a certain member variable? |
| 21:31.37 | learnerAtWork | don't you have to override the default copy constructor? |
| 21:32.06 | larsl_56k | Probably, but I'd rather not. =P |
| 21:32.08 | learnerAtWork | or just override that operator |
| 21:34.36 | learnerAtWork | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:34.48 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 21:34.55 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 21:34.59 | BZSpiff | Okies. |
| 21:36.35 | learnerAtWork | thx.. now it's working |
| 21:37.08 | learnerAtWork | was trying to get this irc client to been when people pm me.. now it works.. :) |
| 21:37.23 | learnerAtWork | heh, cap.. having troubles? |
| 21:38.16 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: I was just wondering what the client was "beening" you with? |
| 21:38.37 | learnerAtWork | ah, heh -- oops |
| 21:38.40 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 21:38.43 | learnerAtWork | beep |
| 21:39.28 | JBDiGriz | I used to change the .project file so that it would list in finger as Projectile:, cheap thrills! |
| 21:40.04 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 21:40.17 | creeperz | Me too :-) |
| 21:40.38 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: How was the Hulk? Is it worthwhile? |
| 21:40.50 | learnerAtWork | oh, that's a hard question |
| 21:40.53 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: not mr bean, but its got atkinson :) |
| 21:41.01 | learnerAtWork | it was great and aweful at the same time |
| 21:41.06 | prot-work | heee |
| 21:41.17 | Chestal | I'm looking forward to the Hulk |
| 21:41.19 | learnerAtWork | the action scenes are impressive and pretty awesome |
| 21:41.48 | learnerAtWork | the movie has about 3-4 scenes that are rather long and pointless, though -- and they *really* make the movie feel too long |
| 21:42.01 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: i'll need to see it for a couple reasons |
| 21:42.06 | prot-work | (a) it looks nifty |
| 21:42.07 | learnerAtWork | I love the cameo appearance by bixpy, though.. :) |
| 21:42.09 | prot-work | and (b) rowan atkinson |
| 21:42.13 | learnerAtWork | that was awesome |
| 21:42.33 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: I didn't think Bixby was still around |
| 21:42.58 | larsl_56k | Rowan Atkinson is great. |
| 21:43.35 | creeperz | Does anyone know a Hugh Jass |
| 21:43.38 | creeperz | ? |
| 21:45.03 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: I just checked IMDB, he died of prostate cancer in '93 |
| 21:45.08 | learnerAtWork | er, not bixby |
| 21:45.14 | learnerAtWork | ferrigno |
| 21:45.25 | learnerAtWork | that's who I meant |
| 21:45.37 | JBDiGriz | What did they have Lou doing, and have all of his muscles dropped? |
| 21:46.11 | learnerAtWork | Lou Ferrigno is a security guard for one of the labs and you see his face for all of 10-15 seconds. :) |
| 21:46.24 | learnerAtWork | He's still got the muscles.. :) |
| 21:46.39 | JBDiGriz | I was a big fan of Bill Bixby from "My Favorite Martian" days. I tended to follow his career. |
| 21:47.45 | creeperz | I want to see a camera man at a golf game get beamed in the crotch and fall over |
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| 21:48.56 | creeperz | Hmm |
| 21:49.05 | learnerAtWork | hulk has a big comic/cartoonish appearance in some really incredibly realistic animation shots |
| 21:49.08 | creeperz | Me client must be actin' up |
| 21:50.29 | prot-work | have you guys seen the dr who episode with atkinson? :) |
| 21:52.48 | learnerAtWork | nope |
| 21:53.11 | learnerAtWork | :( |
| 22:07.50 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-7-56.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 22:09.54 | *** part/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 22:10.35 | creeperz | NOOOOOOO!!!! |
| 22:11.17 | creeperz | Can someone please paste a link for the linux download of BZFlag? |
| 22:11.21 | creeperz | Low memory :-( |
| 22:14.32 | creeperz | Wow |
| 22:17.35 | snyke | wait |
| 22:18.29 | snyke | what do you need? |
| 22:18.30 | snyke | rpm? |
| 22:18.38 | creeperz | I don't know :-) |
| 22:18.43 | creeperz | I'm new to Linux |
| 22:19.24 | snyke | :) |
| 22:19.25 | snyke | hm |
| 22:19.33 | snyke | do you know how to install? |
| 22:19.38 | creeperz | Nope |
| 22:19.44 | creeperz | Are you Windows? |
| 22:20.10 | snyke | :) |
| 22:20.14 | snyke | yep but I know how to install |
| 22:20.22 | snyke | here: http://unc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bzflag/bzflag-1.7g2.tar.gz |
| 22:20.33 | snyke | compile-it-yourself solution |
| 22:20.52 | creeperz | I don't have a compiler...I don't think |
| 22:20.56 | creeperz | Sorry |
| 22:20.59 | creeperz | I have to go |
| 22:21.29 | snyke | bye |
| 22:28.43 | creeperz | Back |
| 22:28.46 | *** join/#bzflag breadhat (doug@tiphareth.net) |
| 22:29.31 | creeperz | Downloading now |
| 22:29.36 | creeperz | snyke? |
| 22:33.18 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: are you on the darin-developers mailing list? |
| 22:34.19 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~tucker@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 22:35.23 | creeperz | Hello |
| 22:39.27 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: No, what is it? |
| 22:40.50 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: oops, darwin-developer mailing list.. |
| 22:41.02 | learnerAtWork | it's for darwin developers |
| 22:41.15 | learnerAtWork | one of apple's mailing lists |
| 22:41.58 | learnerAtWork | I'm about to post a report there that I bet you would find interesting |
| 22:42.22 | JBDiGriz | I'm probably on Printing/Rendezvous/Java, I should probably get on Darwin |
| 22:43.04 | learnerAtWork | oof, java is oft-chatty |
| 22:43.14 | learnerAtWork | I'm about to get off it |
| 22:43.46 | JBDiGriz | Actually, I was on during the Beta, I think I unsubscribed after that. |
| 22:44.11 | learnerAtWork | hehe, good timing. :) |
| 22:44.45 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-118-173.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:45.05 | JBDiGriz | It became less useful at that point. I'm not working on Printing any more, but I'm hoping that client has more work soon, so I haven't unsubscribed yet! |
| 22:47.52 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-5-123.stny.rr.com) |
| 22:48.10 | learnerAtWork | So maybe you know why Minolta/QMS printers tcp/ip printers don't respond with a default queue? :) |
| 22:49.57 | JBDiGriz | I haven't tried the Minolta/QMS printers, sorry! |
| 22:51.02 | learnerAtWork | hehe.. no worries. It just took a week or two of troubleshooting to figure out why those bastards wouldn't print from os x.. :) |
| 22:51.56 | JBDiGriz | Maybe I should talk to them about some printer work? :) |
| 22:52.09 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 22:54.42 | larsl_56k | Is KOTH in CVS now? |
| 22:54.55 | bzgirl | larsl_56k: yep |
| 22:55.37 | larsl_56k | Ah, I found my problem. I was running with the 1.7 datafiles. |
| 22:55.49 | larsl_56k | The king's shots were white blocks. |
| 22:56.17 | learnerAtWork | you need resources |
| 22:56.37 | JBDiGriz | Updating the wipi |
| 22:57.39 | larsl_56k | I want my broadband, I don't like BZFragging over a modem. =P |
| 22:58.01 | bzgirl | you were a little laggy :=) |
| 22:58.54 | larsl_56k | It was fine in the beginning, but then it suddenly went up to 1 second. |
| 23:00.28 | larsl_56k | What is 'netcode' |
| 23:00.42 | larsl_56k | in "Necessary architecture changes? |
| 23:00.44 | larsl_56k | " |
| 23:02.51 | JBDiGriz | I believe that's the Network changes described in the following section. Several of the items need a bit more explanation. |
| 23:03.09 | larsl_56k | Ah, OK. |
| 23:03.41 | JBDiGriz | Everything was thrown in the wipi to see what would stick. That's the reason for the name :) |
| 23:03.49 | larsl_56k | It has nothing to do with the separation of network classes/client logic and client UI? |
| 23:04.42 | larsl_56k | To make it easier to add stuff like bzadmin and separate bot programs. |
| 23:05.19 | learnerAtWork | ~dict prod |
| 23:05.33 | learnerAtWork | I'd rather be poked, thank you.. :) |
| 23:05.40 | JBDiGriz | ~dict poke |
| 23:05.49 | learnerAtWork | hehhehe |
| 23:06.04 | creeperz | I wouldn't play with the bots :-) |
| 23:06.07 | JBDiGriz | I'm just a little more gentle! :P |
| 23:06.35 | JBDiGriz | And we won't go down the road of American slang! |
| 23:06.44 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 23:07.01 | creeperz | ~whereis bzflag.org |
| 23:07.03 | Noodlebot | 66.35.250.210 is probably located in santa clara, california, us at 37.39 latitude, -121.95, longitude |
| 23:07.21 | creeperz | Make a bot and go to #creeperz |
| 23:07.31 | creeperz | Play with them there |
| 23:07.43 | *** join/#bzflag ll_ (~larsl@md469117c.utfors.se) |
| 23:07.50 | creeperz | Hey |
| 23:07.54 | *** part/#bzflag ll_ (~larsl@md469117c.utfors.se) |
| 23:07.58 | creeperz | Bye |
| 23:08.28 | JBDiGriz | larsl_56k: When capn is back in the channel, we can get more explanation about the netcode, and then we should add it to the wipi. |
| 23:08.41 | larsl_56k | Well, I have to go to bed now. |
| 23:08.46 | larsl_56k | 1 AM here, class tomorrow. |
| 23:09.04 | JBDiGriz | I'll probably see him here later tonight, and try to add it. |
| 23:09.06 | larsl_56k | Not until 13, but still... |
| 23:10.44 | creeperz | Noo |
| 23:10.50 | creeperz | The sky is falling! |
| 23:12.59 | creeperz | Now is one of the times that I feel like taking my computer onto my roof and helping it fly |
| 23:17.06 | fiberchunks | har! |
| 23:18.31 | learnerAtWork | ~dict goad |
| 23:18.35 | fiberchunks | and then hides |
| 23:18.39 | fiberchunks | ~dict wheedle |
| 23:18.51 | fiberchunks | hehehe |
| 23:18.59 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 23:19.15 | fiberchunks | good afternoon / late night / early morning ... ad nauseam to you all |
| 23:19.32 | learnerAtWork | now the instruments are getting pointy.. :) |
| 23:20.05 | bzgirl | learnerAtWork: spiff and asdf made a new team |
| 23:20.14 | learnerAtWork | really?!?! |
| 23:20.19 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 23:20.21 | fiberchunks | I thought asdf was a 'trouble maker' too? |
| 23:20.24 | bzgirl | playing a match now against calico/elgen |
| 23:20.40 | learnerAtWork | man, I wish I could observe.. |
| 23:20.42 | bzgirl | asdf is "grumpy" sometimes |
| 23:20.46 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 23:20.48 | learnerAtWork | rather grumpy |
| 23:20.51 | JBDiGriz | How long will they be able to get along with each other? |
| 23:20.59 | learnerAtWork | yet often polite and nice, too |
| 23:21.01 | bzgirl | but hes acutally quite nice (to me anyhows) |
| 23:21.09 | learnerAtWork | just usually while he's not playing.. :) |
| 23:21.24 | JBDiGriz | asdf is an intense player, he takes the game seriously |
| 23:21.31 | learnerAtWork | quite |
| 23:21.39 | learnerAtWork | and spiff is very flag hungry |
| 23:21.49 | bzgirl | yeah, but he should lighten up on the newbie bashing though :( |
| 23:21.50 | learnerAtWork | they may make a good pair |
| 23:21.53 | bzgirl | i hate that |
| 23:22.11 | learnerAtWork | er, .. couple |
| 23:22.35 | JBDiGriz | It would be an excellent team, but fireworks off the field. |
| 23:23.44 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 23:23.45 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 23:23.53 | learnerAtWork | did bzadmin ever make it in to cvs anywhere? |
| 23:24.00 | fiberchunks | who bashes n00bs? |
| 23:24.26 | fiberchunks | lo! Patlabor221, how hangs the hammer? |
| 23:24.43 | Nidhoggr | I haven't seen it learner. |
| 23:25.22 | learnerAtWork | why hasn't it been added? |
| 23:25.30 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: i define bashing as " watch it idiot" to a teamate with a -70 score, obviously new, asdf does that sometimes, not s much lately but still every now and then |
| 23:25.46 | bzgirl | just irks me |
| 23:25.52 | fiberchunks | understandably |
| 23:26.07 | sussudio | bzgirl: asdf uses much nastier words :-P |
| 23:26.09 | JBDiGriz | He gets frustrated easily, and if spiff has a slightly off day, that team will be trouble! |
| 23:26.40 | fiberchunks | it is, as they say, just a game -- when we start playing for paypal, lemme know, and I'll get serious about it ;) |
| 23:26.42 | bzgirl | sussudio: yes, but i wont repeat them here, i'll get kicked :) |
| 23:27.11 | learnerAtWork | I find it more annoying when he's yelling at his whole team to play better with repeated messages over.. and over.. |
| 23:27.30 | learnerAtWork | tanky tanky ;) |
| 23:27.41 | sussudio | learnerAtWork: you mean GET THE F***** FLAG about 23 times in a row? |
| 23:27.50 | JBDiGriz | asdf set up his keyboard to send those messages with a single keystroke |
| 23:27.51 | learnerAtWork | that's the one :) |
| 23:27.59 | fiberchunks | ooooo, when are we having another round of 'decks whoopin'? |
| 23:28.02 | bzgirl | im thinking of posting a thread about BZ CTF Olympics--each country picks its best players and we have a little tourney |
| 23:28.24 | learnerAtWork | lol, girl |
| 23:28.25 | JBDiGriz | can we pick other countrys to represent? |
| 23:28.25 | fiberchunks | I thought learnerAtWork had a test in the AM ;) |
| 23:28.37 | sussudio | um belgium just has willinx |
| 23:28.39 | Nidhoggr | I wonder if I've banned asdf off of secretplace yet... |
| 23:28.44 | fiberchunks | ah, no, that was larsl...nm |
| 23:28.49 | sussudio | and there's me and rembo for NL..... |
| 23:28.52 | bzgirl | sussudio: who else is Dutch? |
| 23:28.58 | bzgirl | ahh yes! |
| 23:28.59 | learnerAtWork | we did, fiber -- good stuff (though cap whpped me on the decks (I tried jumping around)) |
| 23:29.00 | fiberchunks | dutchrai |
| 23:29.10 | sussudio | dutchrai is in singapore |
| 23:29.17 | fiberchunks | he's still dutch ;) |
| 23:29.56 | fiberchunks | it's hot here, blazing hot... urgh |
| 23:29.56 | bzgirl | Canada has me,Catzeract,Quol, and Zig |
| 23:30.02 | Noodleman | coach z's been drinking listerine |
| 23:30.04 | bzgirl | cant think of any more |
| 23:30.47 | learnerAtWork | quite hot here too |
| 23:31.18 | sussudio | mayhem and hampster are in the UK |
| 23:31.18 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (1000@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net) |
| 23:31.34 | learnerAtWork | is dk == dutchrai? |
| 23:31.41 | Patlabor221 | matrix math is melting brain |
| 23:31.50 | sussudio | i dont think i've ever seen dutchrai do ctf |
| 23:32.02 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 23:32.07 | learnerAtWork | nvr mind then |
| 23:32.32 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: How far are you from learnerAtWork? |
| 23:32.41 | bryjen | blah. silly ISP email support monkey trying to blame their flakey router on my home "network" of *2* PCs |
| 23:32.42 | fiberchunks | dunno, where's he live? |
| 23:32.45 | fiberchunks | I'm in CT |
| 23:33.05 | fiberchunks | bryjen> yes, they're idiots, I've the same prob with my isp |
| 23:33.07 | sussudio | my mom's 17" monitor now looks puny compared to my 21" nokia :-| |
| 23:33.09 | JBDiGriz | Not far, he's down in MD |
| 23:33.40 | *** part/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 23:33.47 | fiberchunks | east coast, reprezentin in da hizzouse! :\ |
| 23:33.56 | Nidhoggr | I'd use my 21 and my 17 on my mac, but the digital to regular vga adapter is terrible. |
| 23:34.28 | sussudio | is that like a dvi -> vga thing? |
| 23:35.57 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Did you respond to SGI about the Mac G2 build? |
| 23:36.40 | learnerAtWork | uh, no |
| 23:37.14 | JBDiGriz | I was talking about the player who uses the callsign SGI. He posted a question on centrum. |
| 23:37.26 | learnerAtWork | I realized that after the fact.. :) |
| 23:37.49 | learnerAtWork | haven't even read it yet |
| 23:41.43 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl: Who is the third member of Spiff and asdf's team, Xtreme? |
| 23:42.16 | bzgirl | JBDiGriz: im not sure, never seen him |
| 23:44.55 | learnerAtWork | maybe it's carnage. :) |
| 23:45.08 | fiberchunks | go hide ;) |
| 23:45.38 | sussudio | maybe it's chikorita. |
| 23:45.42 | sussudio | lolo.lolo.lol. |
| 23:45.55 | sussudio | :-| |
| 23:46.21 | sussudio | fiberchunks: throw up? |
| 23:46.40 | Patlabor221 | I don't think he needs to take that, they probably have plenty on the plane |
| 23:46.48 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 23:47.10 | creeperz | Don't take a psyichal dump on my memory! |
| 23:47.25 | creeperz | :-) |
| 23:47.52 | fiberchunks | I can't create plenty of my own, if necessary ;) |
| 23:48.00 | Patlabor221 | tthere is no BZBB user by that name. |
| 23:49.24 | fiberchunks | 'naw, watch this' << issues forth kfj enabled forum voodoo ;) |
| 23:49.32 | sussudio | ~dict multigraph |
| 23:49.44 | sussudio | ~dict microemission |
| 23:50.00 | Patlabor221 | you like that one fiber :) |
| 23:50.15 | fiberchunks | oh, Patlabor221, we should just kill straight off the ones with bouncing email addys |
| 23:50.26 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 23:50.31 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: responded |
| 23:50.32 | JBDiGriz | Definitely! |
| 23:50.34 | fiberchunks | unless they're known users, then give em a chance to put a valid one in there |
| 23:50.48 | Patlabor221 | that's why I made that post |
| 23:50.54 | fiberchunks | good dilio |
| 23:51.02 | fiberchunks | yeah, that was nice ;) |
| 23:51.06 | Patlabor221 | I'll do a mass mail next week and see what ones bounce |
| 23:51.16 | fiberchunks | goody, that should be neat |
| 23:51.36 | bzgirl | my freind lurks on bzbb, she hasnt posted at all, wll it be removed? |
| 23:51.37 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bryjen |
| 23:51.47 | bryjen | duh |
| 23:51.52 | bryjen | ~bryjen |
| 23:51.53 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> yah, all she has to do is post once, to let us know to keep it |
| 23:51.59 | bzgirl | and shes on vacation for 2 more weeks though |
| 23:52.05 | Patlabor221 | what is the name? |
| 23:52.06 | fiberchunks | well, what's her callsign |
| 23:52.10 | bzgirl | jollly |
| 23:52.16 | fiberchunks | ah, k |
| 23:52.25 | Patlabor221 | no problem then |
| 23:53.15 | learnerAtWork | she's having way too much fun.. :) |
| 23:53.17 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: You're nicer than I would have been. That was even documented in the README. |
| 23:53.29 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 23:54.22 | bzgirl | JBDiGriz: who reads README's ?? |
| 23:54.22 | JBDiGriz | Patlabor221: dissing Apple again?! We can't even get to Panther yet! |
| 23:54.41 | Patlabor221 | I'm just kiddin |
| 23:55.00 | Patlabor221 | I have a mac at my house that plays a pivotal role for all my systems |
| 23:55.24 | learnerAtWork | logger? |
| 23:55.48 | Patlabor221 | no, 7100, holds up one end of the monitor shelf |
| 23:55.51 | fiberchunks | dedicated pr0n machine |
| 23:55.55 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 23:55.56 | JBDiGriz | I'll try to get a prerelease of Panther next week, and let you know the results. |
| 23:55.57 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 23:56.08 | Patlabor221 | they took away my G4 :( |
| 23:56.30 | Patlabor221 | and heck I run XP with an aqua theme :) |
| 23:56.42 | JBDiGriz | ugh! |
| 23:56.48 | Patlabor221 | it's purdy |
| 23:56.52 | Patlabor221 | freaks people out tho |
| 23:56.58 | sussudio | peeeeg |
| 23:59.05 | JBDiGriz | Throw mine in as well! |
| 23:59.35 | learnerAtWork | and I'm hungry fiber, since you're up.. :) |
