| 00:00.51 | Mayhem | could perhaps remove some redundancy there... |
| 00:06.48 | Mayhem | In fact you could do away with the server->client MsgGrabFlag, and just send a MsgFlagUpdate |
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| 00:08.55 | michaelh | why does microsquash have to have each and every single file on their install cd's as an individual file instead of compressing them somehow? |
| 00:09.24 | patlabor221 | most new installers slap them in cabs |
| 00:09.30 | captain_proton | Mayhem: well, ideal would be to have the server track player movement and do away with the client->server MsgGrabFlag |
| 00:09.34 | michaelh | it's not freaking funny when you install from 4 or 5 cds... watching each and every dinky little file |
| 00:09.41 | patlabor221 | what are you installing? |
| 00:10.01 | michaelh | vs .net 2002 "academic" |
| 00:10.09 | patlabor221 | it's not in cabs? |
| 00:10.19 | patlabor221 | it'll pull them from the cabs one at a time |
| 00:10.26 | patlabor221 | they go in difrent places |
| 00:10.37 | patlabor221 | and it's so they could be updated indivudualy |
| 00:10.44 | Mayhem | captain_proton: server still needs to tell players that flags have been grabbed/dropped, just wondering why the generic FlagUpdate isn't used... |
| 00:10.57 | patlabor221 | .net should be using the MSI crap engine |
| 00:10.59 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: add commands stuff to build |
| 00:11.08 | Mayhem | guess it requires less effort to find what has changed... |
| 00:11.13 | michaelh | 0 cabs..... |
| 00:11.34 | michaelh | as far as I can see |
| 00:12.01 | patlabor221 | odd |
| 00:12.05 | michaelh | Microsoft has also apparently gotten sick of having actual buttons too |
| 00:12.07 | patlabor221 | .net is kinda sucky |
| 00:12.12 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-6-211.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 00:12.19 | michaelh | freaking web linky like stuff :) |
| 00:12.27 | patlabor221 | flat sytle |
| 00:12.36 | patlabor221 | if your in XP you can theme it |
| 00:12.56 | captain_proton | Mayhem: you mean just send a FlagUpdate with the id field filled in? |
| 00:13.17 | Mayhem | captain_proton: yes, because the the flag always knows who has it at that point |
| 00:13.23 | captain_proton | patlabor221: more files for you to add ;) |
| 00:13.29 | patlabor221 | k |
| 00:13.44 | patlabor221 | I fixed your problems in your db file |
| 00:13.47 | michaelh | So I go away for a while and then all of a sudden people start developing again :) |
| 00:14.01 | patlabor221 | you do know g2 was released right? |
| 00:14.01 | captain_proton | patlabor221: header? |
| 00:14.06 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:14.10 | patlabor221 | didn't include math.h |
| 00:14.12 | michaelh | I saw it on the web page.. |
| 00:14.24 | michaelh | so what's/is the new tag? |
| 00:14.24 | patlabor221 | proto's been busted |
| 00:14.29 | patlabor221 | HEAD |
| 00:14.31 | captain_proton | michaelh: we're in HEAD |
| 00:14.32 | michaelh | oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 00:14.38 | patlabor221 | the way it should be |
| 00:14.41 | michaelh | and v1_7 is still there? |
| 00:14.46 | Mayhem | captain_proton: the client would have to workout what had changed, in order to say 'x has grabbed' or 'x has dropped' |
| 00:14.46 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 00:14.59 | Mayhem | mmm, HEAD |
| 00:15.00 | michaelh | is g2 v1_7 or is it something else? |
| 00:15.18 | patlabor221 | g2 was the last of the v1_7 tag builds |
| 00:15.36 | michaelh | so no v1_7_g2 for example? |
| 00:15.46 | patlabor221 | cap that has to be a testement to the slothness, when people became so used to using a tag they think it normal |
| 00:16.01 | patlabor221 | I don't know if that build was marked |
| 00:16.10 | michaelh | I wanna my tag.................... |
| 00:16.16 | patlabor221 | no tag for you |
| 00:16.24 | patlabor221 | tags are just to go back |
| 00:16.31 | scanline | hmm... |
| 00:16.31 | michaelh | freaking 45 minutes to copy files off a cd... arg |
| 00:16.34 | patlabor221 | we need branches |
| 00:16.41 | scanline | any reason not to stick a svn server on babylonia and ditch CVS? :) |
| 00:16.44 | patlabor221 | deal with it michael, it's a one shot |
| 00:16.52 | patlabor221 | Tim |
| 00:16.55 | patlabor221 | and then Tim |
| 00:16.58 | scanline | ah |
| 00:16.58 | patlabor221 | ohhh and Tim |
| 00:17.14 | michaelh | Some people call me...................... Tim |
| 00:17.21 | patlabor221 | there is a shell svn client so I'm cool with it :) |
| 00:17.22 | michaelh | Boom Boom |
| 00:17.30 | patlabor221 | so great tim... |
| 00:17.45 | patlabor221 | g2 was taged with a non branch tag |
| 00:17.47 | scanline | hmm... |
| 00:17.48 | scanline | so... |
| 00:18.01 | scanline | how about someone suggest we move to bitkeeper, then when that makes Tim mad, someone else suggest svn? :) |
| 00:18.17 | patlabor221 | source safe!!!! |
| 00:18.21 | michaelh | My other cd-rom drive started to chew up the bottom of my cd's |
| 00:18.31 | patlabor221 | get a new one then |
| 00:18.39 | michaelh | I went to this guy at a local video store .. and he ground the cd down again :) |
| 00:18.52 | patlabor221 | boiling them works too |
| 00:18.57 | michaelh | ? |
| 00:18.57 | patlabor221 | cap what did ya add? |
| 00:19.05 | patlabor221 | boil the CD |
| 00:19.11 | patlabor221 | fills in little gaps |
| 00:19.15 | patlabor221 | works well |
| 00:19.16 | michaelh | on high? |
| 00:19.18 | michaelh | or |
| 00:19.24 | patlabor221 | just for like 45 sec |
| 00:19.31 | michaelh | poaching huh? |
| 00:19.35 | patlabor221 | kinda yeah |
| 00:19.45 | patlabor221 | clears out the dirt in the scrathces |
| 00:19.54 | patlabor221 | and causes the small ones to heal |
| 00:19.55 | michaelh | guy had this lathe like device |
| 00:20.06 | patlabor221 | yeah polisher |
| 00:20.15 | patlabor221 | good for larger scratches |
| 00:21.09 | michaelh | I see microsquash likes the 10,000,000 file format for their programs |
| 00:21.12 | patlabor221 | hmmm what does everyone think about puting an icon on the weapon flag you have, to show everyone what you have? |
| 00:21.32 | patlabor221 | if your just gonna bag on it, why are you even useing it man? |
| 00:21.55 | patlabor221 | get your gcc, and emacs, and grep and get on with it. |
| 00:22.10 | patlabor221 | cap what did you add, I didn't save my update log |
| 00:22.59 | patlabor221 | cappppppp |
| 00:23.02 | patlabor221 | calling cap |
| 00:23.04 | patlabor221 | helllo |
| 00:23.09 | patlabor221 | capity cap cap |
| 00:23.15 | michaelh | because my "internship" is going to all be .net ? :) |
| 00:23.27 | patlabor221 | then deal with it |
| 00:23.53 | michaelh | I just wonder how much faster it would install via a cab file instead of copying each and every file |
| 00:24.05 | patlabor221 | dono |
| 00:24.08 | patlabor221 | probably lots |
| 00:24.17 | michaelh | soooooooooo stupid.............. |
| 00:24.24 | patlabor221 | but we allrady know the .net people are dumb |
| 00:24.29 | michaelh | heh |
| 00:24.35 | michaelh | as they say "I just work here" |
| 00:24.41 | patlabor221 | capppp!!!!!!!! |
| 00:24.53 | patlabor221 | that's it I'm bustin linux |
| 00:25.00 | michaelh | woohhooo |
| 00:25.09 | michaelh | ah who needs it anyway |
| 00:25.15 | michaelh | :) |
| 00:25.24 | patlabor221 | yeah all I have to do to make it crash is type ./autogen.sh |
| 00:25.27 | patlabor221 | it's realy great |
| 00:25.43 | michaelh | It can't live in peace with my windows partitions .... |
| 00:25.55 | patlabor221 | get another drive |
| 00:26.02 | michaelh | what... a concept :) |
| 00:26.14 | patlabor221 | better then constantly bitching about it :) |
| 00:26.26 | michaelh | got to have something to whine about |
| 00:26.46 | patlabor221 | while that is a common human flaw, no... no you don't |
| 00:26.50 | michaelh | I read somewhere that linux and windows tend to handle the partition table differently |
| 00:26.55 | michaelh | isn't that cool... |
| 00:27.10 | patlabor221 | I've dualbooted with no problems many times |
| 00:27.25 | patlabor221 | using lilo, grub, and system commander |
| 00:27.27 | michaelh | I have a 80 gig hd.. how large was yours? |
| 00:27.31 | patlabor221 | now the 9x OSs have boot issues |
| 00:27.40 | patlabor221 | like a 60 or something |
| 00:27.52 | patlabor221 | 98 will jack mbrs |
| 00:28.00 | patlabor221 | you realy have to do them in the right order |
| 00:28.03 | DTRemenak | lol...just install it first |
| 00:28.16 | patlabor221 | 98 then 2k/XP, then linux |
| 00:28.26 | patlabor221 | that's the best way |
| 00:28.29 | michaelh | I know.. but if run windows fdisk or part magic afterwards -- bye bye linux partition |
| 00:28.31 | DTRemenak | yup, until you throw OS/2 and BeOS into it |
| 00:28.43 | patlabor221 | get your partitions right in the begining |
| 00:28.57 | patlabor221 | if you are gonna go with more then 2, use system commander |
| 00:28.59 | patlabor221 | allt he way |
| 00:29.06 | michaelh | win98 --> wipes it out completely win2000-> merely corrupts it so much it can't boot |
| 00:29.17 | patlabor221 | get your partions right first |
| 00:29.25 | DTRemenak | I find that it often works best to install one at a time, using each OS' own partition tool |
| 00:29.49 | patlabor221 | yeah don't try to mannage other OSs partitions with there tools |
| 00:29.52 | DTRemenak | Disk Druid tends to corrupt the table tho, so use SFDISK if you're installing redhat |
| 00:30.08 | patlabor221 | I usualy use the drive manufactures partitioner |
| 00:30.22 | patlabor221 | then just let the OS do it's format |
| 00:30.44 | patlabor221 | redhat wasn't designed to be one of 3 OSs |
| 00:30.52 | patlabor221 | it was desinged to install easy |
| 00:31.02 | DTRemenak | lol, true |
| 00:31.04 | michaelh | it's funny -- if I did the partition with PM and let linux format the partitions -- the install still failed with bad magic, etc.. kind of errors |
| 00:31.05 | patlabor221 | the once in, suck complete and total ass |
| 00:31.33 | patlabor221 | maybe your drive is farked |
| 00:31.39 | patlabor221 | I'd low leve it |
| 00:31.40 | michaelh | or the partition table perhaps |
| 00:31.49 | patlabor221 | something is |
| 00:31.57 | patlabor221 | low level then go from scratch |
| 00:32.01 | patlabor221 | anything else is a hack |
| 00:32.11 | michaelh | It's hard to figure out what exactly my bios settings should be |
| 00:32.11 | DTRemenak | I've had only bad luck with partition magic, actually |
| 00:32.24 | patlabor221 | I've never used PM |
| 00:32.28 | DTRemenak | but I can't say it's the program...doesn't seem to do anything consistently |
| 00:32.32 | michaelh | like auto... or the autodetect LBA settings |
| 00:32.53 | michaelh | or the manufactor says to put in 3 bogus #s |
| 00:32.55 | DTRemenak | Partition Commander works if I need to change my win partitions, other than that, I just use sfdisk |
| 00:32.57 | patlabor221 | the best drive util is usualy made by the drive mfg |
| 00:33.19 | michaelh | how is sfdisk diff from fdisk? |
| 00:33.39 | michaelh | is that Partition Commander's thing? |
| 00:33.40 | DTRemenak | sfdisk is the traditional commandline linux partitioning tool |
| 00:33.49 | michaelh | & not fdisk? |
| 00:33.53 | michaelh | or is it aliased? |
| 00:34.00 | DTRemenak | I'm not sure anymore |
| 00:34.12 | DTRemenak | but on most distros they do different things |
| 00:34.16 | Mayhem | sfdisk is more scriptable... |
| 00:34.25 | Mayhem | cfdisk uses curses... |
| 00:34.44 | michaelh | I used fdisk for linux stuff.. it didn't save me from the usual problems I've had |
| 00:34.58 | Mayhem | parted is the way of the future :) |
| 00:35.11 | michaelh | don't you have to defrag everything first? |
| 00:35.31 | Mayhem | parted can resize partitions, don't need to defrag. |
| 00:35.32 | DTRemenak | before what? |
| 00:36.16 | michaelh | i know some utils need that |
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| 00:36.33 | DTRemenak | only before resizing, usually, and modern tools get around it |
| 00:37.31 | michaelh | cool.. this cd was completely borked before and now it's just fine...... |
| 00:38.02 | michaelh | my other cd-rom drive was ripping cds up ... not cool |
| 00:39.18 | patlabor221 | there he is |
| 00:39.26 | patlabor221 | what files did you add? |
| 00:39.43 | captain_proton | you don't subscribe to -dev? :) |
| 00:39.50 | patlabor221 | digest |
| 00:40.05 | captain_proton | include/CommandManager.h, include/CommandsStandard.h, src/bzflag/CommandManager.cxx, src/bzflag/CommandsStandard.cxx |
| 00:40.10 | patlabor221 | and I closed the log window |
| 00:41.54 | patlabor221 | are these things called from anywhere yet? |
| 00:42.09 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 00:45.46 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: added some stuff from davie |
| 00:46.02 | captain_proton | patlabor221: with your world file stuff, it would be neat if it just passed the world file directly instead of this binary-coded world database |
| 00:46.14 | patlabor221 | that is what I am looking at |
| 00:46.42 | patlabor221 | tho the server should have a parsed version of it |
| 00:46.56 | patlabor221 | I may hybrid it |
| 00:47.09 | patlabor221 | send binary for what I know, and text for the rest |
| 00:47.20 | captain_proton | thats silly |
| 00:47.22 | patlabor221 | so like the server can know what objects are solid |
| 00:47.35 | captain_proton | if you just send text, a utility could be written that would dump the world file from a server |
| 00:47.37 | captain_proton | including comments |
| 00:47.44 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:47.55 | patlabor221 | just means we have to parse in 2 places |
| 00:47.58 | patlabor221 | but that's nor horible |
| 00:48.11 | patlabor221 | I'll make a parsinator class |
| 00:48.27 | patlabor221 | can call it torgdor |
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| 00:48.46 | patlabor221 | trogdor->parsinate(fileName) |
| 00:49.06 | captain_proton | :) |
| 00:49.10 | patlabor221 | and it can have an error |
| 00:49.13 | patlabor221 | eSworded |
| 00:49.25 | JBDiGriz | patlabor221: you've gone lower case! |
| 00:49.42 | patlabor221 | I try |
| 00:49.55 | patlabor221 | coudl have it play a sound as it downloads the map |
| 00:50.05 | patlabor221 | "and the dragon comes in the NIIIIIGGGGTTT!!!" |
| 00:50.08 | patlabor221 | thud |
| 00:50.22 | fiberchunks_ | lol |
| 00:51.06 | patlabor221 | why would they put something IN my food, that says "do no eat"? |
| 00:51.17 | patlabor221 | is this like a way to clear out the illterates? |
| 00:51.32 | fiberchunks_ | lemme guess -- beef jerky? |
| 00:51.36 | patlabor221 | who like salted animal flesh |
| 00:51.37 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:51.47 | patlabor221 | cus this could get rid of like most of the southeast |
| 00:51.55 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 00:52.14 | patlabor221 | and kentucky |
| 00:52.40 | patlabor221 | fiber I think you need to go add a comment to my pegan holiday post |
| 00:52.48 | fiberchunks_ | on bzbb |
| 00:52.50 | fiberchunks_ | ? |
| 00:52.54 | patlabor221 | jaa |
| 00:53.07 | patlabor221 | since there was one yesterday and all |
| 00:53.13 | patlabor221 | like a big one |
| 00:54.09 | scanline | patlabor221: you should fix the typo in the topic :) |
| 00:54.20 | patlabor221 | damnit |
| 00:55.49 | Mayhem | ok, enough documenting from me. Time for sleep. |
| 00:55.51 | fiberchunks_ | lol |
| 00:55.54 | patlabor221 | cap, did you see the SG1 season 3 ep where they went to hell? |
| 00:56.04 | captain_proton | patlabor221: i haven't seen any season 3 eps |
| 00:56.44 | patlabor221 | ahh there is one where o'neil goes "well I'm probaly goin to hell anyway, might as well check out the place", then later "to hell with us" |
| 00:56.56 | scanline | ooh, that reminds me |
| 00:56.57 | captain_proton | haha |
| 00:57.03 | scanline | I do believe my mom posesses a copy of season 3 on DVD now |
| 00:57.17 | patlabor221 | oooo that'll save me from ripin and sendin |
| 00:57.26 | patlabor221 | you guys have 1 and 2 righ? |
| 00:57.52 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 00:57.52 | fiberchunks_ | oooo noooo, weekly bible service in the 'pit of despair' |
| 00:57.56 | captain_proton | though scanline needs to rip em |
| 00:58.06 | captain_proton | fiberchunks_: yeah :P |
| 00:58.17 | patlabor221 | we need to have a virtual goat burning |
| 00:58.24 | captain_proton | hehehe |
| 00:58.29 | patlabor221 | ya know, that's gotta stink |
| 00:58.45 | patlabor221 | I am thinking about asing them to take it somewhere else |
| 00:59.05 | scanline | =) |
| 00:59.05 | fiberchunks_ | hell, I'd even make em their own, hidden forum if they'd like |
| 00:59.17 | patlabor221 | what "zellots" ? |
| 00:59.23 | fiberchunks_ | lol |
| 00:59.33 | patlabor221 | season 3 is rather good |
| 00:59.39 | patlabor221 | the asgard ROCK! |
| 00:59.52 | patlabor221 | I am on disk 4 now |
| 00:59.55 | scanline | yeah.. I've been rather out of it with SG-1 so I forgot what happens in season 3 :) |
| 01:00.02 | fiberchunks_ | hrm -- trying to think up something good for that post |
| 01:00.06 | captain_proton | scanline: rip rip rip |
| 01:00.07 | scanline | captain_proton: and you're in luck |
| 01:00.17 | scanline | captain_proton: I have no DVD drive on yoshi now, so I have to rip before watching |
| 01:00.24 | captain_proton | YAR! |
| 01:01.00 | patlabor221 | the one where Richard Dean Anderson can't speak is rather well accted on his part IMHO |
| 01:01.44 | scanline | ooh.. this season has the one where O'Neil gets his mind zapped by the asgard do-widget so he can only speak in the language of the ancients? |
| 01:02.01 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:02.09 | patlabor221 | and he just builds stuff |
| 01:02.22 | patlabor221 | he played that part rather well |
| 01:02.45 | patlabor221 | I didn't know they bring Daniel back in season 7 tho |
| 01:03.40 | scanline | I saw a new episode that wasabi recorded on Friday and was rather surprised about that |
| 01:03.48 | scanline | but pleased :) |
| 01:03.56 | patlabor221 | yeah his charcater is coo |
| 01:04.12 | scanline | yepp |
| 01:04.20 | patlabor221 | read some synposes and seems he comes back in one of the first eps in 7 |
| 01:04.33 | scanline | well, with the rerun density of SG-1 on cable, I'll eventually have all of them |
| 01:04.41 | patlabor221 | and how many farking stargates are on earth? |
| 01:04.56 | scanline | there are more than two? |
| 01:05.01 | patlabor221 | yeah 3 |
| 01:05.05 | scanline | wow |
| 01:05.12 | scanline | lucky earthicans |
| 01:05.21 | patlabor221 | ours, the antartic one, and the russians find one in the ocean in a sunk asgard ship |
| 01:05.34 | scanline | yay for the russians |
| 01:05.45 | patlabor221 | but then we jack it from them :) |
| 01:05.55 | patlabor221 | and at some point we get a starship |
| 01:06.09 | scanline | hmmm |
| 01:06.25 | scanline | the new episode was pretty neat |
| 01:06.31 | scanline | O'Neil got cloned again :) |
| 01:06.39 | patlabor221 | again? |
| 01:06.45 | patlabor221 | isn't that like 5 of tem now |
| 01:06.54 | scanline | but this one's a teenager |
| 01:06.58 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 01:07.09 | scanline | made by the asgard that's been behind alien abductions |
| 01:07.26 | patlabor221 | I like how in the alterniate universes the evil version of everyone allways has a goatee |
| 01:07.36 | scanline | it's like Red Dwarf :) |
| 01:07.45 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:07.57 | patlabor221 | and that star trek thing people keep talkin about |
| 01:08.03 | scanline | hmmdeedoo... |
| 01:08.06 | scanline | $ ssh -X wasabi dvdrip |
| 01:08.34 | patlabor221 | one of the ones on this season is sad |
| 01:09.22 | captain_proton | it was all started by the evil version of spock |
| 01:09.26 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:10.32 | patlabor221 | I think it's time to go read some more potter |
| 01:10.45 | captain_proton | i think its just become one of those science fiction laws |
| 01:10.56 | captain_proton | just like how every single series needs at least one episode entitled "the enemy within" |
| 01:11.00 | patlabor221 | didn't they have some poeple from there in DS9 too |
| 01:11.03 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 01:11.57 | patlabor221 | SG1 did it in there second ep |
| 01:12.41 | captain_proton | there's one in macgyver too |
| 01:14.30 | patlabor221 | now they showed one in a extra on the DVD where oneal and teal'c are stuck in a time loop, and they show then shooting golf balls into the gate |
| 01:14.38 | patlabor221 | but I can't find what season it's in |
| 01:15.09 | captain_proton | thats...um...4? |
| 01:15.10 | captain_proton | hang on, one sec |
| 01:15.38 | captain_proton | /navi/public/media/video/series/Stargate_SG1/406_window_of_opportunity.avi |
| 01:15.45 | scanline | :) |
| 01:15.47 | captain_proton | =) |
| 01:15.51 | scanline | what a cool episode |
| 01:16.03 | scanline | makes you reconsider the role of fruit loops in your live |
| 01:16.05 | patlabor221 | how do I get that? |
| 01:16.06 | scanline | s/live/life/ |
| 01:16.38 | scanline | patlabor221: I could DCC it to you, or I could give you a URL that's good until midnight MST |
| 01:17.03 | patlabor221 | your call, or you could ssh it to the bfoj |
| 01:17.26 | scanline | the URL is easiest, as this machine doesn't have an externally routable IP |
| 01:17.31 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:17.36 | patlabor221 | hit me |
| 01:18.26 | scanline | and there ya go |
| 01:19.09 | patlabor221 | I am 85% tempted to just send cap the anime dvds I can't rip right for him to rip proper |
| 01:19.14 | patlabor221 | nuku nuku and all |
| 01:19.26 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 01:32.08 | fiberchunks_ | lol! |
| 01:34.41 | scanline | and then of course something about feeling the lovin' vibes from Jesus |
| 01:36.22 | fiberchunks_ | heeee, I've wanted to do that for a long time -- but I must resist the urge to spark flame war ;) |
| 01:36.40 | scanline | yeah.. I'd do it, but that would mean actually logging in or something |
| 01:36.57 | fiberchunks_ | haven't seen you do that for quite some time now |
| 01:37.39 | scanline | :) |
| 01:38.01 | scanline | well, I'm not a bzflag player, and jetstream is dead.. so no real reason to use the forums other than to laugh at the links that captain_proton and patlabor221 post here |
| 01:38.09 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 01:38.37 | fiberchunks_ | you could always work on bzflag / jetstream integration (/me loves that console you had going in JS) |
| 01:39.05 | scanline | I could... but whenever I get the urge to do more 3D game hacking I'll just finish that jetstream-crystalspace integration |
| 01:39.19 | fiberchunks_ | ah |
| 01:39.39 | scanline | I already ported the movie recorder to crystalspace, and I've talked about porting the Surface engine thingy |
| 01:39.51 | scanline | Dentoid from the CS project has been pretty interested in that, and might beat me to the porting |
| 02:12.30 | patlabor221 | scanline you must watch, http://bakadigital.com/darkmoor-noshare/movie/BloodGulch |
| 02:12.33 | patlabor221 | if cap will not |
| 02:12.45 | patlabor221 | fiber must do so as well |
| 02:14.05 | scanline | now which of these are you making me watch? |
| 02:14.33 | fiberchunks_ | all of them, probably ;) |
| 02:14.43 | patlabor221 | start with ep 1 |
| 02:14.52 | patlabor221 | you will want to see the others after that |
| 02:15.08 | patlabor221 | fiber, you need to watch those too |
| 02:15.27 | patlabor221 | they are all divx so it shold play on leenox |
| 02:15.30 | fiberchunks_ | course, it's all of 50 ft away ... |
| 02:15.44 | scanline | okeydokey |
| 02:15.48 | patlabor221 | down the stiars to the basement? :) |
| 02:16.03 | fiberchunks_ | waiting for evolution to finish compiling, then I'm homeward bound -- nah, I live in my own place |
| 02:16.11 | patlabor221 | I know you do |
| 02:16.11 | fiberchunks_ | akin to your house and work, but closer |
| 02:16.24 | fiberchunks_ | heh, scanline jibe... |
| 02:16.25 | patlabor221 | 650 feet it seems |
| 02:16.44 | scanline | jibeywhaa? |
| 02:17.02 | fiberchunks_ | you live in your parents basement, yes? |
| 02:17.08 | scanline | for now |
| 02:17.12 | patlabor221 | he's a student |
| 02:17.16 | scanline | come mid-august-ish I won't |
| 02:17.26 | patlabor221 | you can cap geting dormage next term? |
| 02:17.26 | fiberchunks_ | good for him -- I wish I still lived rent / bills / etc shite free |
| 02:17.46 | scanline | patlabor221: we've both already done the dorm thing for 2 years... we're living in an apartment together this fall |
| 02:17.52 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 02:18.06 | patlabor221 | it's better, less bandwith, but better. |
| 02:18.12 | scanline | yep |
| 02:18.19 | scanline | I'll always miss dorm bandwidth |
| 02:18.25 | scanline | but nothing else :) |
| 02:18.51 | fiberchunks_ | aw, come on, the racous hall parties are always good for study time |
| 02:19.04 | scanline | hall? party? what? |
| 02:19.11 | scanline | we lived in the mostly-engineering dorm... |
| 02:19.17 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 02:19.20 | patlabor221 | geekdoorm |
| 02:19.28 | scanline | yup |
| 02:19.36 | scanline | though most of them weren't geeks... |
| 02:19.42 | scanline | just folks that played Halo most of the time |
| 02:20.01 | patlabor221 | it is a game of great justice |
| 02:20.01 | scanline | and when they got drunk, they did so elsewhere usually |
| 02:20.51 | fiberchunks_ | that's what I miss -- tossing works bombs out dorm windows... pickle eating contests -- the important stuff in school ;) |
| 02:21.07 | patlabor221 | pickle eating contests? |
| 02:21.16 | scanline | well, we did have some good window tossin |
| 02:21.33 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/images/events/eggdrop_2003/ |
| 02:21.41 | fiberchunks_ | yeah -- big ole vat of dills -- see who could eat / drink the most without hurling -- whoooooooo, what fun :\ |
| 02:22.02 | patlabor221 | given the state of current console game systems, I would never do anything if I was in college in this day in age |
| 02:22.32 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 02:22.48 | patlabor221 | is that poo in ducttape? |
| 02:23.36 | scanline | nop |
| 02:23.38 | scanline | brownies |
| 02:23.48 | patlabor221 | ahhh, that was the other guess |
| 02:24.28 | scanline | collected about 72 brownies from the dorm cafeteria over a long period, stored them in the freezer, them mashed them all together |
| 02:24.43 | patlabor221 | dosn't look like it quite did the splat that it shoudlhave |
| 02:24.52 | fiberchunks_ | did someone actually toss a kelvinator out the window? |
| 02:25.11 | scanline | patlabor221: nope.. they ignored that "do not drop cardboard" note |
| 02:25.19 | scanline | so it got a little parachute :( |
| 02:27.21 | patlabor221 | 5 story dorm? |
| 02:28.22 | scanline | no, that's the engineering center |
| 02:28.38 | scanline | our dorm was three stories |
| 02:28.38 | patlabor221 | ahhh sounds like a proper place for droping |
| 02:31.48 | patlabor221 | since there are soo many parks here |
| 02:33.01 | jzaun | Question for the "people in charge": Now that we are breaking the protocol (not that his has anything to do with protocol, just seems like a good time to do it) are pryamids going to be made non-drive-threw? |
| 02:33.17 | patlabor221 | did that today |
| 02:33.25 | jzaun | :-) |
| 02:33.53 | jzaun | can you commit a fix to xfree so that IGP ATI Radeon cards get 3D Accel too? |
| 02:34.10 | patlabor221 | sure, it'll be about 650 megs tho |
| 02:34.16 | patlabor221 | setup.exe |
| 02:34.38 | jzaun | thats not the fix was hopeing for |
| 02:35.16 | patlabor221 | well it works |
| 02:35.41 | patlabor221 | can ya yoink out the ATI crap and replace it? |
| 02:35.45 | jzaun | might fix the 3D issue, but breaks a shitload of other stuff in the preocess |
| 02:35.59 | patlabor221 | pffffft, that other stuff was crap |
| 02:36.02 | patlabor221 | what GIMP? |
| 02:36.36 | jzaun | unfortunatly this laptop's video is not replaceable from what I can tell, though I haven't fisically opened up the laptop, yet. |
| 02:36.41 | patlabor221 | what model is your little beasty? |
| 02:36.56 | fiberchunks_ | yoink? |
| 02:37.04 | patlabor221 | yoink!!!! |
| 02:37.09 | jzaun | Presario 2135US |
| 02:37.10 | fiberchunks_ | :) |
| 02:37.10 | patlabor221 | it's the action word. |
| 02:37.26 | learner | Question about the linksys router issue we talked about last night.. |
| 02:37.58 | learner | do you have problems using the router alltogether with bz, or just with multiple players? |
| 02:38.15 | patlabor221 | nidhoger has it with multiple players |
| 02:38.25 | learner | but fine when solo? |
| 02:38.36 | patlabor221 | that's what he says |
| 02:38.41 | learner | mkay, thx |
| 02:38.52 | patlabor221 | other routers work fine tho |
| 02:39.25 | bzgirl | learner: my linksys the same, only one client can play, any other joins and the first client fgoes nr |
| 02:39.44 | learner | it's on the bottom of my list of things I care about, but wanted to make sure it was a repeat case |
| 02:39.54 | fiberchunks_ | learner: I would amend that, however... I notice that my solo performance is not as good as when I'm direct connected (mind you, last time I _really_ checked was 1-2 years ago) |
| 02:39.55 | learner | ah, bzg, thank you |
| 02:40.09 | patlabor221 | jzaun, just so you know, everone offers that laptop for a grand. |
| 02:40.23 | patlabor221 | looks like it's all hardwired |
| 02:40.26 | patlabor221 | no swapy |
| 02:41.21 | learner | so, fiber.... You're saying I'll be a kick *ass player if I yoink the plug? :) |
| 02:42.00 | fiberchunks_ | I'm saying you'll be more kickass if you shitcan the linksys, yes :) |
| 02:42.04 | learner | heh |
| 02:42.17 | patlabor221 | I notice no dif. |
| 02:42.19 | fiberchunks_ | which reminds me, my gigafast is on the way |
| 02:42.22 | patlabor221 | I get shot both ways |
| 02:42.35 | learner | it's a shame regardless.. I get great wireless range with it |
| 02:42.55 | learner | hehe, pat -- you just get shot |
| 02:43.09 | learner | :) |
| 02:43.10 | patlabor221 | there wap may be fine, but there nat sucks |
| 02:43.16 | fiberchunks_ | yah, it's too bad they don't build a great product, and just make it look pretty |
| 02:43.47 | patlabor221 | but then there profit margins would be smaller |
| 02:43.56 | patlabor221 | and they coudln't roll around in MONEY!!! |
| 02:44.01 | fiberchunks_ | lol |
| 02:44.32 | fiberchunks_ | I wouldn't have minded the crap web-server, if I were given a serial port and ftp / tftp access, but nooooooooo |
| 02:44.44 | learner | odd.. it has worked fine with all of the oddity browsers I've thrown at it |
| 02:45.00 | patlabor221 | I have never seen a consumer one with tty or anything likethat |
| 02:45.05 | learner | tftp is how firmware is updated |
| 02:45.05 | fiberchunks_ | lucky ... I have odd little submit button problems |
| 02:45.06 | patlabor221 | what would ftp get you? |
| 02:45.24 | fiberchunks_ | learner: yah, via windows -- you ever update your firmware with a linux tftp proggie? |
| 02:45.26 | learner | dunno about ftp |
| 02:45.41 | patlabor221 | our enterprise nat routers have tty |
| 02:45.44 | patlabor221 | and slip |
| 02:45.52 | fiberchunks_ | patlabor221 at the very least a cli interface to the thing -- so if the browser didn't work, I could change settings that way |
| 02:46.00 | patlabor221 | that would be tty |
| 02:46.03 | patlabor221 | not ftp |
| 02:46.07 | patlabor221 | ftp would send files |
| 02:46.12 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: lynx |
| 02:46.15 | fiberchunks_ | surely... |
| 02:46.18 | breadhat | http://navi.picogui.org/images/events/eggdrop_2003/ |
| 02:46.27 | learner | ah, my firmware had already fixed that, fiber -- I can directly talk via tftp, or use an http upload.. |
| 02:46.27 | breadhat | drats, darn epic cant copy and paste |
| 02:46.27 | fiberchunks_ | bzgirl: hrm, never tried lynx -- will do that tonight |
| 02:46.41 | fiberchunks_ | ah |
| 02:46.43 | learner | lynx is great |
| 02:46.54 | patlabor221 | the gigafast has such a simple web inteface it's kinda funny |
| 02:46.55 | learner | well.. "great" |
| 02:47.09 | patlabor221 | but it works and it works well |
| 02:47.09 | fiberchunks_ | ah, well you have the wireless router, which is prob. a better product than my crappy befsr41 v1 |
| 02:47.20 | bzgirl | i actually like my linksys router, it not confusing to set up |
| 02:47.23 | learner | heh, perhaps |
| 02:47.40 | patlabor221 | it does get hot when 55 people peg out a T1 thru it, |
| 02:47.44 | fiberchunks_ | as long as it works, and does its job, I don't care how it looks, or how awkward the interface is -- but dammit, it must work :) |
| 02:47.56 | learner | my wireless antennas would poke me if I tried that stunt.. :) |
| 02:48.08 | patlabor221 | you got the nat/wap combo didn't you? |
| 02:48.30 | bzgirl | learner: how fast is the wireless? like can you play bz on it? |
| 02:48.36 | learner | definately |
| 02:48.58 | patlabor221 | I think worst case at max range they drop down to like 1 meg a sec |
| 02:49.00 | fiberchunks_ | 802.11b right? |
| 02:49.17 | learner | yes, 11b |
| 02:49.22 | breadhat | hah, my wireless drops out if I sit inbetween the card and the ap :) |
| 02:49.36 | learner | the latency is quite acceptable -- nice and fast even across the street |
| 02:49.51 | fiberchunks_ | mmmm... wonder how strong 11a is -- that's 54mbit, iirc << linux support wise, anyway |
| 02:50.07 | learner | er, 11g, I believe is that spec |
| 02:50.18 | learner | could be mistaken |
| 02:50.36 | fiberchunks_ | no, you're right -- I can never remember the letters |
| 02:50.46 | breadhat | 11g is same as 11b, just faster (ie same freq) |
| 02:50.54 | breadhat | 11a is 5 ghz I think |
| 02:51.10 | learner | no, you're right ... 54/mbit |
| 02:51.19 | patlabor221 | jzuan, hmm that looks to be a big store retail only model, how interesting |
| 02:51.27 | fiberchunks_ | yes, I'm talking about the higher frequency spec -- 54mbit / sec, @ 5GHz |
| 02:51.44 | fiberchunks_ | well, 5GHz+/- whatever the spectrum is |
| 02:52.04 | breadhat | ehf :P |
| 02:52.22 | learner | 802.11g is same as 11a, if I'm reading this article correctly |
| 02:52.28 | learner | so we both had it |
| 02:52.40 | breadhat | 11g can work with 11a |
| 02:52.43 | breadhat | just slower |
| 02:53.07 | learner | ah, no -- that WOULD be 11b.. 11a is a different spectrum |
| 02:53.37 | breadhat | er |
| 02:53.38 | breadhat | yea |
| 02:53.47 | breadhat | I meant b :) |
| 02:53.56 | learner | :) we know you did |
| 02:54.07 | fiberchunks_ | breadhat: get it together man, EHF is 30 - 300 GHz, not 5 -- I think that's UHF |
| 02:56.31 | fiberchunks_ | SHF |
| 02:56.51 | fiberchunks_ | 3-30G |
| 02:56.57 | breadhat | yea :P I was jokin |
| 02:57.12 | fiberchunks_ | :\ |
| 02:57.48 | fiberchunks_ | Enter the FIST! |
| 02:58.28 | learner | if I update src/bzfsto the latest, build it, and run it -- are g2 clients going to be able to connect? or has it finally been broken? |
| 02:58.40 | captain_proton | learner: its been broken |
| 02:58.45 | learner | drat |
| 02:58.52 | captain_proton | they're still "capable" |
| 02:59.03 | captain_proton | except they'll get -really- confused with the reconnect bit |
| 02:59.06 | learner | and that means... |
| 02:59.21 | captain_proton | they can connect() to the port |
| 02:59.27 | learner | yes |
| 03:00.20 | captain_proton | but then they'll expect a reconnect port |
| 03:00.22 | captain_proton | which won't be given |
| 03:00.49 | learner | is there a code-switch to reprovide that like before? |
| 03:01.00 | captain_proton | huh? what do you have in mind? |
| 03:01.19 | learner | I have some server mods, and I've already updated.. I need to test them... |
| 03:01.33 | captain_proton | best way is to rope a few people into joining a game |
| 03:01.47 | learner | I have an older copy of bzfs laying around that I can patch, but that's not optimal of course |
| 03:01.59 | learner | ah, hence my problem, cap |
| 03:02.12 | captain_proton | we're not making this stuff conditional because the protocol breaking gives us an opportunity to remove a lot of the cruft thats accumulated over the years |
| 03:02.20 | learner | roping them into a busted server (from their g2 perspective) is the problem |
| 03:02.38 | captain_proton | i mean rope a few people here who are capable of building/using 1.9 |
| 03:02.47 | learner | ah.. hmmmmmmmm |
| 03:02.55 | fiberchunks_ | heading home -- later on |
| 03:03.37 | patlabor221 | cap are there suposed to be makefiles for data and l10n ? |
| 03:03.37 | captain_proton | i was thinking it might be nice to have weekly or biweekly bug sessions where we provide builds to the windows kids |
| 03:04.12 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you mean Makefile.am? |
| 03:04.35 | patlabor221 | since I can't get the autogen to run I did the autoconf and automake manualy |
| 03:04.45 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 03:04.55 | patlabor221 | then I do a make all and it geeks saying no make file in data and stuff |
| 03:05.00 | patlabor221 | no targets for it |
| 03:05.13 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 03:06.02 | captain_proton | it should have created makefiles |
| 03:06.11 | patlabor221 | it didn't |
| 03:07.02 | captain_proton | you ran configure? |
| 03:07.06 | patlabor221 | can I make some? or copy them from syeah |
| 03:07.21 | patlabor221 | hmmm says I have busy files now |
| 03:07.25 | patlabor221 | gonna wipe and redo |
| 03:07.37 | captain_proton | make sure you run all the commands that autogen.sh does |
| 03:07.38 | learner | which gets auto generated in src/bzfs: Makefile.am or Makefile.in? |
| 03:07.45 | learner | or both? |
| 03:07.51 | captain_proton | learner: Makefile.in is auto-generated |
| 03:07.55 | captain_proton | Makefile.am is the input |
| 03:09.45 | patlabor221 | what is /bin/sed ? |
| 03:09.53 | learner | it's a stream editor |
| 03:10.01 | patlabor221 | why is it busy? |
| 03:10.14 | learner | it must be editing stream |
| 03:10.14 | patlabor221 | and why does autoheader need it? |
| 03:10.34 | learner | many/most shell scripts use it for string parsing |
| 03:10.51 | patlabor221 | well it's geeked, can I kill it? |
| 03:10.58 | learner | shouldn't hurt |
| 03:11.01 | patlabor221 | how? |
| 03:11.06 | patlabor221 | kill sed? |
| 03:11.10 | learner | killall -9 sed? |
| 03:11.15 | learner | linux? |
| 03:12.11 | patlabor221 | yes linux, what else could have that? :) |
| 03:12.19 | bzgirl | i was told off once for using killall -9 :) |
| 03:12.38 | patlabor221 | wow it is like big time borken now |
| 03:12.39 | learner | os2, beos, irix, *bsd, aux, ... |
| 03:12.52 | learner | heheh |
| 03:12.57 | patlabor221 | one line, kill system, that's great |
| 03:13.12 | breadhat | killall -i sed :P its safer :) |
| 03:13.14 | patlabor221 | talk about power in an OS. I mean on windows I have to click on all kinds of stuf stuff |
| 03:13.16 | learner | ah -- if THAT's what you want to do... I have better one-liners.. |
| 03:13.38 | breadhat | whats the classic one? |
| 03:13.45 | patlabor221 | wtf, someeone just vetoed my shutdown |
| 03:13.52 | breadhat | lol |
| 03:13.54 | learner | I'm not going to say it here.. :) |
| 03:14.00 | captain_proton | wow breadhat is giving people linux advice |
| 03:14.31 | patlabor221 | well that borked the drive |
| 03:14.35 | breadhat | better than killall -9 sed :P |
| 03:14.41 | captain_proton | no it isn't |
| 03:14.42 | learner | bah! |
| 03:14.50 | captain_proton | thats like rm -i |
| 03:14.52 | captain_proton | freakin' annoying |
| 03:15.02 | learner | quite |
| 03:15.05 | captain_proton | i wouldn't be running the damn rm command if i didn't want to delete the file |
| 03:15.16 | patlabor221 | well one dead linux machine |
| 03:15.41 | learner | what's top say, pay? |
| 03:15.46 | learner | er, pat. |
| 03:15.47 | patlabor221 | LI |
| 03:15.51 | bzgirl | ugh |
| 03:15.54 | patlabor221 | blinky |
| 03:16.03 | learner | lilo ? |
| 03:16.14 | patlabor221 | no just LI aperantly |
| 03:16.15 | bzgirl | have you rebooted since this mornig? |
| 03:16.20 | patlabor221 | seems I can't have the lo |
| 03:16.22 | bzgirl | when yuo fixed X? |
| 03:16.24 | patlabor221 | yeah a acouple times |
| 03:16.47 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@AC8E97F6.ipt.aol.com) |
| 03:16.55 | Chikorita | help mee :( |
| 03:17.01 | patlabor221 | linux realy wants me to hate liunx |
| 03:17.04 | learner | lilo (my preference, mind you) is a piece of .... |
| 03:17.05 | Chikorita | theres a big cheater on rosemeyers |
| 03:17.08 | breadhat | The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map installer |
| 03:17.17 | Chikorita | his callsign is "ace" |
| 03:17.24 | patlabor221 | who runs that server? |
| 03:17.29 | Chikorita | he is ruining the game for everyone :( |
| 03:17.36 | patlabor221 | doug, that's just a nice way of saying "it's borked" |
| 03:17.41 | patlabor221 | call him acehole |
| 03:17.42 | breadhat | :) |
| 03:17.46 | Chikorita | he was messin up my connection too |
| 03:17.49 | bzgirl | Chikorita: i'll go see |
| 03:17.50 | Chikorita | lol pat |
| 03:18.00 | patlabor221 | messing with your connection ? |
| 03:18.10 | Chikorita | people know him ,,,apparently hes a notorious cheater |
| 03:18.27 | patlabor221 | maybe his name is Lary |
| 03:18.33 | patlabor221 | ask him if his name is Lary |
| 03:18.37 | Chikorita | ok |
| 03:18.40 | Chikorita | brb |
| 03:18.47 | Chikorita | sorry to bother everyone.. |
| 03:19.08 | patlabor221 | do I realy want to install this again? |
| 03:19.35 | patlabor221 | I have this nice windows XP disk here |
| 03:22.36 | patlabor221 | *sigh* why did I have to make that "sure I will make everything work on linux too" promice |
| 03:24.54 | learner | because you're a decent human being, with a big heart, and bigger brain.. that's why |
| 03:25.17 | captain_proton | patlabor221: what did you say you'll make work on linux? |
| 03:25.30 | patlabor221 | at the time it was "everythihng" |
| 03:25.34 | patlabor221 | but it's a long story |
| 03:25.37 | learner | heheh |
| 03:25.39 | learner | sucker |
| 03:25.50 | learner | oops.. did I say that?? |
| 03:25.55 | captain_proton | hah, i'm glad i didn't say i'd do that for windows ;) |
| 03:26.05 | learner | hehehe, really. |
| 03:26.23 | captain_proton | patlabor221: is this for bz? because there are plenty of linux people who will fix it up |
| 03:27.08 | patlabor221 | it mostly is, but i realy would like to be able to test my own stuff, seems the resposible thign to do |
| 03:27.24 | patlabor221 | and I would like to run a semi perma test server here |
| 03:27.38 | patlabor221 | so all of that means I should try |
| 03:27.50 | patlabor221 | plus an OS will NOT beat me |
| 03:29.03 | bzgirl | patlabor221: did you try to build anything on woody, before you upgraded? |
| 03:29.14 | patlabor221 | this time I think I may stay at woody, but I REALY like kde3.1 |
| 03:29.19 | patlabor221 | no, I will try it this time tho |
| 03:29.53 | patlabor221 | joy debbootstrap exited with an error ( return value 139 ) |
| 03:30.06 | patlabor221 | maybe it just REALY dosn't like AMD processors |
| 03:35.37 | breadhat | should record it, and do something with it.. :) |
| 03:36.06 | patlabor221 | well I can't see the lamp so I am fireing into the dark |
| 03:36.23 | breadhat | ah, even better :) |
| 03:36.40 | patlabor221 | I need to fix the semi, this one shot stuff isn't cuting it |
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| 03:48.38 | learner | ok.. I'm building now |
| 03:48.45 | learner | I'll need some testers soon enough |
| 03:49.53 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-224-147.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 03:57.00 | learner | should the koth patch use getPlayerByIndex or lookupPlayer in src/bzflag/player.cxx |
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| 03:58.35 | Chikorita | :\ |
| 04:00.11 | Chikorita | anyone here? |
| 04:00.49 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 04:00.56 | patlabor221 | just my cat |
| 04:00.57 | Chikorita | o ok |
| 04:01.10 | Chikorita | is kitty typing? |
| 04:01.21 | patlabor221 | no, she's trying get the grapes |
| 04:01.34 | Chikorita | ooh |
| 04:01.57 | Chikorita | i had a cat once too....he liked to eat corn |
| 04:02.02 | Chikorita | :) |
| 04:02.09 | Chikorita | and his fav was turkey |
| 04:02.09 | patlabor221 | I don't know why she wants the grapes, she dosn't like them |
| 04:02.18 | patlabor221 | like corn off the cob? |
| 04:02.25 | Chikorita | buh he didntlike fish...which i thought all cats liked |
| 04:02.32 | Chikorita | no , like from da can |
| 04:03.01 | patlabor221 | well little Miss. Fuzzbutt here will eat damn near anything |
| 04:03.04 | Chikorita | so it jus goes to show u that cats are like people too , they are all different personalities |
| 04:03.04 | patlabor221 | cept grapes |
| 04:03.11 | Chikorita | nlol pat |
| 04:03.18 | Chikorita | miss fuzzbutt is her name? |
| 04:03.31 | patlabor221 | no |
| 04:03.37 | patlabor221 | well only when she's bad |
| 04:03.48 | Chikorita | what is it then ? just wondering :P |
| 04:03.51 | patlabor221 | Mya |
| 04:03.52 | Chikorita | lol o i c |
| 04:03.59 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 04:04.21 | patlabor221 | the other cat's name is suposed to be Sebastian, but everyone calls him cubs |
| 04:04.21 | Chikorita | my cat i named him "general" ...cuz dat was da name of John Waynes kitty cat :) |
| 04:04.29 | patlabor221 | sorry chubs |
| 04:04.39 | Chikorita | everyone calls my cat "meow moew" |
| 04:04.43 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 04:04.53 | patlabor221 | some times I call him fat bastard |
| 04:04.54 | Chikorita | they never call him by his formal name i gave to him :P |
| 04:04.57 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:05.02 | Chikorita | is he fat ? |
| 04:05.15 | patlabor221 | is full name is Sebastian "grave violator" |
| 04:05.21 | Chikorita | my cat is so cool , he is the king of his neighborhood :) |
| 04:05.26 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:05.37 | Chikorita | all da other cats skeered of him |
| 04:05.43 | Chikorita | i buy him da good food |
| 04:05.45 | Chikorita | :) |
| 04:05.51 | patlabor221 | dono, they can't go outside |
| 04:05.55 | patlabor221 | no way back in |
| 04:05.56 | Chikorita | oH |
| 04:06.02 | patlabor221 | apartment |
| 04:06.05 | Chikorita | i have a kitty door |
| 04:06.07 | Chikorita | o i c |
| 04:06.12 | patlabor221 | 2nd story |
| 04:06.18 | Chikorita | ooh |
| 04:06.40 | Chikorita | my kitty goes out at nite an comes back to sleep in da day |
| 04:06.52 | Chikorita | i luv my kiity |
| 04:06.55 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 04:06.56 | Chikorita | hello kitty |
| 04:06.58 | Chikorita | :) |
| 04:07.10 | Chikorita | sumtimes kitty jumps on my puter ... |
| 04:07.17 | Chikorita | he just wants attention |
| 04:07.35 | Chikorita | anywayz i came here to ask sumtin... |
| 04:07.49 | Chikorita | it about that cheater "ace" |
| 04:07.50 | patlabor221 | the answer is 42 |
| 04:07.55 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:08.01 | Chikorita | no i have a serious question |
| 04:08.27 | patlabor221 | was his name lary? |
| 04:08.36 | Chikorita | after bzg banned him (which i think bzg did a great job as an admin) he went to another server |
| 04:08.44 | patlabor221 | as he can do |
| 04:08.53 | Chikorita | i asked him if his name was lary but he didnt answer mee , he went quiet |
| 04:09.03 | patlabor221 | yup, it's spoogebob |
| 04:09.11 | patlabor221 | we know where he lives :) |
| 04:09.24 | Chikorita | anyways ...i followed him to seminole server... |
| 04:09.43 | Chikorita | and he was there cheating too , and chatting wif dis other player named killer mouse |
| 04:09.53 | Chikorita | he was telling him how to cheat |
| 04:10.03 | patlabor221 | as most cheaters do |
| 04:10.06 | Chikorita | he told him to go to this site...that has cheat codes |
| 04:10.12 | patlabor221 | what site? |
| 04:10.20 | bzgirl | spooge hasnt ever cheated AFIK |
| 04:10.24 | Chikorita | http://dfhc2.port5.com |
| 04:10.38 | patlabor221 | nidhoger has said he cheated. |
| 04:10.38 | Chikorita | i dunt think it was spooge |
| 04:10.47 | Chikorita | im not sure |
| 04:11.16 | Chikorita | he wasnt rude like spooge, buh he did brag alot about his cheating , and also lied about it feigning innocence |
| 04:11.31 | patlabor221 | well he can't disto bin onlys |
| 04:11.36 | captain_proton | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 04:11.42 | captain_proton | GPL VIOLATION!!! |
| 04:11.45 | Chikorita | he was telling killer mouse to go there an check out the cheat bz link |
| 04:11.47 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:11.50 | patlabor221 | he's got 2 bin onlys |
| 04:12.00 | patlabor221 | and a MSVC debug violation |
| 04:12.09 | Chikorita | huh? |
| 04:12.16 | captain_proton | shall i break out the fist? |
| 04:12.20 | patlabor221 | like he can't even figure out how to build release |
| 04:12.23 | Chikorita | whats GPL violation? |
| 04:12.26 | patlabor221 | I think the fist is required |
| 04:12.31 | Chikorita | lol pat |
| 04:12.35 | Chikorita | hi learner |
| 04:12.42 | learner | hi, chika |
| 04:12.44 | Chikorita | learner r u still on ducati? |
| 04:12.47 | patlabor221 | chik you can't distribute the game with out the source |
| 04:12.55 | Chikorita | oh |
| 04:12.57 | captain_proton | Chikorita: 'GPL' is the license that bzflag uses |
| 04:13.01 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-67-120-233-53.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 04:13.08 | Chikorita | i dont understand , but i take ur word 4 it ;) |
| 04:13.09 | patlabor221 | yeah it's win bin only |
| 04:13.12 | Chikorita | hi jb |
| 04:13.29 | captain_proton | should i also suggest that he's violating microsofts EULA by distributing the debug dlls? :) |
| 04:13.31 | Chikorita | jb , i was jus talkin bout that cheater "ace" who was on tonite |
| 04:13.43 | patlabor221 | basicly the game is what is called open source, and that means that you have to give people the code (text files ) that are used to make the game |
| 04:13.57 | Chikorita | yea the cheater mentioned sumthing about dlls... |
| 04:13.59 | patlabor221 | you can modify it but you have to give out the changes too |
| 04:14.03 | learner | no, chika, I'm not on ducati right now |
| 04:14.03 | JBDiGriz | hi, DTRemenak and I were just on the new 1.9 server, seems like there are some serious problems |
| 04:14.07 | patlabor221 | yeah he built debug, lame |
| 04:14.35 | Chikorita | he said "download bzflag kickass and then the dlls" |
| 04:14.43 | Chikorita | thats wut he told killer mouse to do |
| 04:15.10 | Chikorita | then he said "put bzflag kickass into the bzflag directory" |
| 04:15.30 | patlabor221 | he's also got an old version of BZedit up there |
| 04:16.46 | Chikorita | i think he was also messin wif my connection too ...after i warned him i was gonna report him.. |
| 04:16.52 | Chikorita | i dunno how he did that.. |
| 04:17.21 | Chikorita | i think he was trying to hack into my puter.. |
| 04:17.30 | Chikorita | cuz my puter was acting weird after that |
| 04:17.38 | learner | probably just sending you a lot of traffic to deal with |
| 04:17.39 | captain_proton | patlabor221: can you figure out what version of bzflag that is? |
| 04:17.46 | Chikorita | so i disconnected on purpose b4 he could harm mee puter |
| 04:17.57 | patlabor221 | your on AOL? |
| 04:18.01 | captain_proton | if its g0/g1, i'll say its a GPL violation, if g2, LGPL :) |
| 04:18.02 | patlabor221 | he can't get to ya |
| 04:18.08 | JBDiGriz | it's unlikely that he was messing with your machine. |
| 04:18.09 | Chikorita | nyea dats prolly wut he was doin learner , ur right |
| 04:18.11 | patlabor221 | one sec, let me tell ya |
| 04:18.25 | Chikorita | yea im on AOL |
| 04:18.37 | patlabor221 | G0 |
| 04:18.37 | Chikorita | alot of people say AOL is the easiest to hack into |
| 04:18.42 | patlabor221 | it's not |
| 04:18.45 | patlabor221 | your kinda nated |
| 04:18.56 | patlabor221 | the easyest is direct connections |
| 04:19.01 | Chikorita | there is a site called www.lenshell.com ,,,i think |
| 04:19.08 | Chikorita | it has AOL password hacks |
| 04:19.11 | Chikorita | :x |
| 04:19.16 | JBDiGriz | patlabor221: direct connections to windows machines |
| 04:19.25 | patlabor221 | yeah that's for your account on AOL not your computer |
| 04:19.29 | patlabor221 | 98 machiens yeah |
| 04:19.34 | Chikorita | i was hacked b4 ...so i have a special blocker now |
| 04:20.02 | patlabor221 | actulay the easyest thing for a windows machine is web page stuff |
| 04:20.12 | patlabor221 | since they don't run many services to listen |
| 04:20.35 | JBDiGriz | Unix-like and more recent windows tend to be installed with a bit more security |
| 04:20.43 | captain_proton | anybody want to be BCCed on this? :) |
| 04:20.57 | learner | that website is apparently in the UK |
| 04:21.45 | patlabor221 | it's free hosting |
| 04:21.48 | JBDiGriz | learner: Check out http://www.visualware.com/visualroute/index.html to determine where IP addresses are located. |
| 04:22.31 | bzgirl | so you you can determine the hosting company at best? |
| 04:22.34 | captain_proton | patlabor221: what license is BZEdit? |
| 04:22.36 | captain_proton | w32? |
| 04:22.50 | learner | at best, without a lot more digging |
| 04:22.57 | captain_proton | found that version number yet? |
| 04:22.59 | patlabor221 | it is not open source |
| 04:23.03 | patlabor221 | ohh I told you G0 |
| 04:23.08 | captain_proton | ah |
| 04:23.34 | patlabor221 | I don't mind people linking, but I would prefer them to link to the page, not host the file |
| 04:23.43 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@ACAD9BD4.ipt.aol.com) |
| 04:23.46 | patlabor221 | he's got a realy old one there |
| 04:24.24 | JBDiGriz | dfhc2.port5.com listed as Clements and Shine Investments in the UK. |
| 04:24.27 | learner | bzg, do you remember his ip? |
| 04:24.34 | Chikorita | someone is messin wif mee :( |
| 04:24.38 | patlabor221 | it's a free hosting place |
| 04:24.39 | bzgirl | learner: yeah |
| 04:24.45 | patlabor221 | so they could be everywher |
| 04:24.57 | patlabor221 | no chik you just droped that's all, it happens sometimes |
| 04:25.06 | patlabor221 | AOL is not the most stable of ISPs |
| 04:25.09 | Chikorita | o ok ...i hope so |
| 04:25.10 | bzgirl | learner: i have shell access to rosemeyres, can read the log |
| 04:25.43 | patlabor221 | LOL he's got a live webcam |
| 04:25.50 | learner | bzgirl: I can see if the IP leads anywhere interesting if anyone's interested |
| 04:26.11 | learner | pat, really? hehe, missed that |
| 04:26.12 | Chikorita | kewl |
| 04:26.18 | patlabor221 | he's off line tho |
| 04:26.29 | patlabor221 | who wants his yahoo mesenger ID |
| 04:26.37 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:27.36 | patlabor221 | david_1987_13 |
| 04:27.43 | patlabor221 | gawd not another 13 year old |
| 04:27.45 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 04:27.58 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 04:28.16 | patlabor221 | it's in the soruce isn't it? |
| 04:28.17 | Chikorita | yay captain ;) |
| 04:28.34 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yeah but its all url encoded |
| 04:29.05 | patlabor221 | not hard |
| 04:29.06 | scanline | haha... |
| 04:29.13 | patlabor221 | dumbass |
| 04:29.20 | captain_proton | patlabor221: no, just tedious :) |
| 04:29.35 | patlabor221 | bust out a script |
| 04:29.39 | DTRemenak | lmao (!!!warning ppl dont like hacked clients so check to see if peopol allow them!!!) |
| 04:29.43 | scanline | what's all this then? |
| 04:29.50 | patlabor221 | http://dfhc2.port5.com/ |
| 04:29.50 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:30.21 | patlabor221 | I need to find a way to search bzbb users by name |
| 04:30.32 | captain_proton | scanline: yet another person distributing cheat clients in violation of the GPL :) |
| 04:30.33 | patlabor221 | sorry by mail |
| 04:30.55 | scanline | captain_proton: ah.. and it's some script kiddie that thinks he can hide a URL using javascript? |
| 04:30.57 | Chikorita | isnt there a server that allows cheaters to play an use hacked clients? |
| 04:31.05 | patlabor221 | knightmare |
| 04:31.15 | Chikorita | cheaters should just make a server that lets dem do that |
| 04:31.17 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 04:31.32 | patlabor221 | they should change there version number so they only work with there own kind |
| 04:31.37 | Chikorita | yea |
| 04:31.40 | scanline | Chikorita: I sort of had something like that when I was writing that silly flight sim patch :) |
| 04:31.58 | scanline | I ran a server on navi with a message like "cheaters welcome" |
| 04:32.08 | Chikorita | o okies ,,,kewl |
| 04:32.15 | JBDiGriz | knightmare showed up in the yard tonight, at least he seemed to be using a legit client |
| 04:32.34 | scanline | Chikorita: problem is, cheaters only get a kick out of it if they're the only one cheating |
| 04:32.43 | Chikorita | thats true |
| 04:32.49 | patlabor221 | since they must suck at the game anyway |
| 04:32.56 | scanline | Chikorita: one person joins with the ability to nuke all other players, and all of a sudden everyone gets pissed |
| 04:33.00 | Chikorita | lol pat |
| 04:33.02 | captain_proton | //CHANGE THE NUMBERS BELOW TO REFLECT YOUR USERNAME/PASSWORD |
| 04:33.04 | patlabor221 | hell I suck bad at it, and I coudl make some REALY good cheats |
| 04:33.06 | captain_proton | har! |
| 04:33.32 | JBDiGriz | ace certainly sucked at it, everyone could shoot him, and he shot himself out of bounds |
| 04:33.53 | JBDiGriz | i've never seen a bullet bounce off the outside of the walls before! |
| 04:33.57 | patlabor221 | if he goes more then 5 units out he shoudl be auto kicked if they are running g2 |
| 04:34.04 | Chikorita | lol jb yup |
| 04:34.14 | JBDiGriz | rosemeyers is a bit behind the times |
| 04:34.21 | patlabor221 | who runs it? |
| 04:34.21 | Chikorita | i shot him a few times ...even with his cheating he still sucked LoL |
| 04:34.57 | bzgirl | patlabor221: the guy is Jason, i talked (nagged) with him last week to upgrade |
| 04:35.55 | Chikorita | i like rosemeyers tho ,, the only other ducati-like server in the USA |
| 04:36.13 | Chikorita | xcept for bzgirls server ...thats a good server too :) |
| 04:36.20 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 04:36.22 | patlabor221 | it's not in the US :) |
| 04:36.24 | bzgirl | patlabor221: he is wanting to do the registration thing also, but runs four servers,so wont upgrade till he can manage the DB stuff eaisly |
| 04:36.33 | Chikorita | hers in canada i kno |
| 04:36.39 | patlabor221 | that ain't gonna happen in G2 |
| 04:36.41 | JBDiGriz | i like rosemeyers and bzgirl, less lag in North America |
| 04:36.47 | Chikorita | yup |
| 04:36.49 | patlabor221 | he can upgrade and not do the registration |
| 04:36.55 | patlabor221 | still do the /password stuff |
| 04:36.59 | patlabor221 | it dosn't remove it |
| 04:37.06 | bzgirl | patlabor221: he will gett nagged again tommorow :) |
| 04:37.20 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:37.42 | scanline | patlabor221: hmm.. someone needs to post a poll asking people to read their tone meter or something |
| 04:37.44 | captain_proton | sent! :) |
| 04:37.56 | JBDiGriz | when are we going to get a 1.9 testing server with the decks map? |
| 04:38.03 | scanline | uh oh |
| 04:38.07 | captain_proton | so they've got a bzflag build up there too |
| 04:38.20 | patlabor221 | cap, admin option on dervs sundays school? I don't want it in chat, I can ask him to move it to an ez board, or make him a private forum |
| 04:38.42 | patlabor221 | opinion not option |
| 04:38.42 | scanline | how about move it to the BZFlag Scientologists' Forum |
| 04:38.47 | patlabor221 | something |
| 04:39.01 | JBDiGriz | Why not ask derv and folks to take it to yahoo or another service that is set up for their purposes? |
| 04:39.04 | patlabor221 | I don't mind him using the board, I just don't think it goes int chat |
| 04:39.13 | captain_proton | patlabor221: suggest that you'll make him a private forum if he wants, but you'd prefer he take it elsewhere |
| 04:39.16 | patlabor221 | not everyone folows his views |
| 04:39.22 | JBDiGriz | And then avoid any messages about solstice! :) |
| 04:39.39 | patlabor221 | The night time is the right time!!!! |
| 04:39.57 | DTRemenak | I was thinking about adding a post to the thread suggesting that the forum described "general chit-chat" was not an appropriate place for a weekly event |
| 04:40.31 | DTRemenak | Couldn't figure out how to word it tho |
| 04:41.09 | scanline | captain_proton: interesting bit about the debug DLLs |
| 04:41.14 | captain_proton | scanline: =) |
| 04:41.18 | captain_proton | figured i'd help him out :) |
| 04:41.27 | captain_proton | make it sound like i didn't think he was the shit of the earth |
| 04:41.31 | captain_proton | *ahem* |
| 04:41.36 | scanline | what, instead of calling piracy@microsoft.com on him? :) |
| 04:42.31 | patlabor221 | yeah you are not suposed to distro those |
| 04:42.48 | learner | it would be easier to take his site down (but I would never condone that) |
| 04:42.56 | patlabor221 | dtr, I just sent him a PM saying that |
| 04:43.19 | learner | apparently one was an AOL user and the other a Bell South ADSL subscriber |
| 04:43.22 | patlabor221 | I'll put him in his own forum if he wants |
| 04:43.26 | DTRemenak | patlabor: cool...I hope he doesn't get ticked at you |
| 04:43.49 | captain_proton | well - if he doesn't respond, i'll call both the FSF -AND- microsoft |
| 04:43.52 | captain_proton | >:) |
| 04:43.53 | patlabor221 | I hope so too, I don't want to be mean, and it's cool if he wants to use the board to get people together, it just dosn't go in chat |
| 04:44.00 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 04:44.33 | captain_proton | see how he responds with two well-funded legal teams facing him =) |
| 04:44.40 | patlabor221 | and stonehenge is not neothithic |
| 04:44.55 | DTRemenak | lol...like putting one guy in front of a fleet of semis and a marching horde of ogres |
| 04:45.17 | JBDiGriz | patlabor221: neothithic, are you typing with a lisp? |
| 04:45.22 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:45.28 | patlabor221 | was eating grapes |
| 04:45.38 | patlabor221 | skin of one was stuck to the roof of my mouth |
| 04:45.54 | JBDiGriz | have your significant other feed them to you while typing ;) |
| 04:46.06 | DTRemenak | your voice recognition is pretty good if it can pick up a lisp |
| 04:47.19 | *** part/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-224-147.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 04:47.48 | scanline | look harder! |
| 04:48.00 | JBDiGriz | I just hadn't heard about the neothithic period, and it sounded unusual enough to warrant a comment. Now I've learned something new today! :) |
| 04:48.10 | patlabor221 | dude I've got a scaning election microsope!!! |
| 04:48.13 | captain_proton | you're not acting hard enough! |
| 04:48.27 | patlabor221 | it was made by druids |
| 04:49.53 | JBDiGriz | So were the druids more bronze age? |
| 04:49.57 | patlabor221 | the one where he does Sean Conery as Noah is geat |
| 04:50.00 | captain_proton | it gives me such a warm fuzzy feeling whenever there's a GPL violation |
| 04:50.01 | patlabor221 | something like that |
| 04:50.33 | learner | interesting.. shellshock mentions their site on June 4th (near the bottom) |
| 04:51.08 | captain_proton | interesting |
| 04:51.14 | captain_proton | they do link to shellshock |
| 04:51.25 | captain_proton | so maybe they approached dutchrai about some cross-linking thingy |
| 04:51.33 | learner | perhaps |
| 04:51.45 | patlabor221 | "and they have this thing in the world of aviation called 'birdstrike'. now thats a total misnomer, cus it's not bird strike is it, its more like 'engine stuck, birs soup'" |
| 04:51.46 | learner | seems like dutchrai "knows" dave |
| 04:52.19 | learner | (dave and jo being the two guys apparently maintaining the site) |
| 04:52.49 | captain_proton | well, whatever it is |
| 04:52.57 | captain_proton | they're violating both GPL & MS-VC++ EULA |
| 04:53.00 | captain_proton | =) |
| 04:53.17 | Chikorita | neolithic |
| 04:53.30 | Chikorita | neo=new , lithic =stone |
| 04:53.40 | captain_proton | learner: i have a special place in my heart for GPL violators |
| 04:53.45 | captain_proton | because the GPL is -so- hard to violate |
| 04:53.46 | Chikorita | thats from indiana jones and da temple of doom :) |
| 04:54.00 | JBDiGriz | Chikorita: http://www.hengistbury.head.btinternet.co.uk/history.htm#neothithic |
| 04:54.13 | Chikorita | ooh ok |
| 04:54.16 | Chikorita | umm |
| 04:54.18 | Chikorita | ya |
| 04:54.23 | learner | heh |
| 04:54.28 | scanline | captain_proton: I have about 70MB of Spirited Away, out of 1.2GB |
| 04:54.32 | JBDiGriz | I didn't know either until patlabor221 mentioned it. |
| 04:54.37 | captain_proton | scanline: ew |
| 04:54.45 | patlabor221 | neolithic is realy old |
| 04:54.58 | patlabor221 | well derv mentioined it, bout the enge |
| 04:54.59 | JBDiGriz | Not a bad movie, but I didn't think it deserved the oscar. |
| 04:54.59 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 04:55.00 | patlabor221 | henge |
| 04:55.07 | scanline | captain_proton: it's spending most of its time waiting for someone with a copy to connect.. so if someone with awesome upstream connected it could go pretty fast :) |
| 04:55.28 | patlabor221 | spiritid away was great, if you don't watch the disney tripe version |
| 04:55.37 | captain_proton | mebbe i should just borrow the dvd from a guy at work |
| 04:55.47 | patlabor221 | it's good |
| 04:55.52 | JBDiGriz | what other version was there? I just rented it last night. |
| 04:56.02 | patlabor221 | well that would be the ORIGONAL one |
| 04:56.09 | patlabor221 | disney just redid the voices |
| 04:56.10 | Chikorita | how did u find all that about that person learner? |
| 04:56.26 | patlabor221 | cap, now this is funny and you can just listen |
| 04:56.27 | patlabor221 | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/Eddie%20Izzard%20-%20Glorious%20-%2004%20-%20The%20Tyranny%20Of%20Ducks.mp3 |
| 04:56.52 | JBDiGriz | The translation seemed really poor, but the animation was pretty typical, highly westernized appearances. |
| 04:57.16 | patlabor221 | get the import |
| 04:57.26 | patlabor221 | there translation sucked |
| 04:57.53 | JBDiGriz | I pretty much got that after watching the trailers. |
| 04:58.07 | patlabor221 | tho I should note that link is not for anyone who can't hear the word "f**k" |
| 04:58.16 | scanline | well, if captain_proton gets the DVD we can rip us a subbed version rather than settle for whatever it is eDonkey is bringing in :) |
| 04:58.23 | learner | we leave traces about ourselves everywhere, chika |
| 04:58.33 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 04:58.35 | JBDiGriz | I better turn down the sound on my machine, thanks for the warning! |
| 04:58.39 | patlabor221 | tracking people isn't that hard |
| 04:58.41 | learner | that was without really trying |
| 04:59.10 | learner | especially with the bell south person, I could probably get pretty close after a couple phone calls |
| 04:59.30 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:59.33 | learner | the aol person is a bit tougher just because they could be anywhere |
| 04:59.37 | Chikorita | call mee ;) |
| 04:59.38 | JBDiGriz | Tracking people is fairly easy, depending on where you start. It would be tough to do without admin privileges on the servers |
| 04:59.42 | learner | :) |
| 04:59.58 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:00.05 | learner | definately |
| 05:00.32 | learner | easy enough to lure someone in -- especially with a website and all.. |
| 05:00.55 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 05:01.07 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 05:01.10 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 05:01.15 | patlabor221 | ohh everyone knows where I am |
| 05:01.26 | learner | alaska, right? |
| 05:01.31 | learner | hehe |
| 05:01.34 | patlabor221 | umm no |
| 05:01.37 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 05:01.51 | patlabor221 | JBD knows where, problably even kows the freeways |
| 05:01.53 | captain_proton | yay for drkev |
| 05:02.12 | patlabor221 | cap listen to that mp3 |
| 05:02.20 | captain_proton | but but but |
| 05:02.23 | captain_proton | i'm listening to drkev |
| 05:02.25 | patlabor221 | LISTEN! |
| 05:02.31 | Chikorita | he said a bad word |
| 05:02.38 | patlabor221 | many people do |
| 05:02.49 | patlabor221 | and you were warned |
| 05:02.50 | Chikorita | heehe he talkin bout ducks |
| 05:02.57 | patlabor221 | tyrany of ducks |
| 05:03.17 | Chikorita | "aflac" |
| 05:03.19 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 05:03.22 | learner | LOL |
| 05:03.24 | captain_proton | only a few more songs in this dir to listen to |
| 05:03.28 | captain_proton | then i'll listen to yours |
| 05:03.30 | Chikorita | i luv dat lil ducky ...he iz so cute |
| 05:03.37 | patlabor221 | put it in your playlist so you don't forget |
| 05:03.37 | JBDiGriz | I heard Checy was going with a tranny of ducks |
| 05:03.50 | JBDiGriz | Chevy |
| 05:03.57 | patlabor221 | then getone |
| 05:04.13 | JBDiGriz | Get an iPod :) |
| 05:04.21 | captain_proton | scanline: you workin' tomorrow? |
| 05:04.32 | scanline | yep |
| 05:07.00 | learner | ok, once again I shall try to build.. |
| 05:07.10 | captain_proton | learner: whatcha building? |
| 05:07.48 | learner | new filter patch |
| 05:07.53 | captain_proton | ah |
| 05:08.00 | patlabor221 | don't forget to listen |
| 05:08.51 | learner | also includes the koth patch, cap |
| 05:09.15 | JBDiGriz | I really want to try a koth game on the decks map. |
| 05:09.42 | learner | that would be neat |
| 05:10.08 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@ACAE88E6.ipt.aol.com) |
| 05:10.48 | JBDiGriz | hi chik, your connection seems to drop and then you come back with a different ip address. |
| 05:11.09 | patlabor221 | AOL dialup does that :) |
| 05:11.15 | Chikorita | i dunno wuts going on... |
| 05:11.25 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 05:11.37 | Chikorita | itz not usually dis bad |
| 05:11.54 | Chikorita | i think sumthing weird iz going on |
| 05:11.55 | patlabor221 | oooooo lizard |
| 05:12.03 | Chikorita | o umm ty? |
| 05:12.13 | scanline | no, it's not for eating |
| 05:12.17 | patlabor221 | what windows do you run? |
| 05:12.22 | JBDiGriz | is that better than a fried newt? |
| 05:12.25 | Chikorita | ok thats nice to know |
| 05:12.36 | Chikorita | eww |
| 05:12.40 | scanline | JBDiGriz: depends on how long you cook it |
| 05:12.43 | Chikorita | im running win98se |
| 05:12.47 | captain_proton | scanline: =} |
| 05:12.54 | JBDiGriz | scanline: more spirited away references |
| 05:13.03 | patlabor221 | oooo, 98 se is funky |
| 05:13.10 | patlabor221 | funktakularly funky |
| 05:13.18 | patlabor221 | of funkidide |
| 05:13.25 | Chikorita | itz ok |
| 05:13.26 | patlabor221 | cap, listen :) |
| 05:13.31 | JBDiGriz | switch to Unix and run wine |
| 05:13.31 | captain_proton | learner: koth patch updated |
| 05:13.38 | captain_proton | patlabor221: still waiting for drkev to finish ;) |
| 05:13.39 | patlabor221 | you say it's ok only cus you have not used better |
| 05:13.47 | patlabor221 | I will not falter |
| 05:14.00 | Chikorita | some people say itz da best windows , besides windows 2000 |
| 05:14.13 | learner | cap, since when? just now? |
| 05:14.22 | captain_proton | learner: yep |
| 05:14.24 | patlabor221 | 98 is better then ME |
| 05:14.30 | Chikorita | yes |
| 05:14.31 | patlabor221 | 2k and XP are WAYYYY better |
| 05:14.33 | patlabor221 | wayyy |
| 05:14.35 | JBDiGriz | Chikorita: it's the best fried newt besides a rubber lizard |
| 05:14.37 | Chikorita | wayyy |
| 05:14.41 | patlabor221 | wayyyy |
| 05:14.44 | learner | what is supposed to be the purpose of patchPlayerId() in bzfs.cxx |
| 05:14.45 | Chikorita | loll |
| 05:14.46 | scanline | If you don't need USB, 95 is better than 98 |
| 05:14.57 | patlabor221 | XP |
| 05:15.03 | patlabor221 | if you gots ram |
| 05:15.08 | captain_proton | learner: it was for playerid patching :), which is no longer necessary |
| 05:15.12 | scanline | 98 is just 95 + USB + internet explorer cruft |
| 05:15.21 | scanline | and I think multihead support |
| 05:15.33 | patlabor221 | yeah and some net stuff |
| 05:15.38 | Chikorita | who DoEsNt need USB |
| 05:15.38 | patlabor221 | and all the patches |
| 05:15.44 | captain_proton | scanline: 98se is a lot more stable than 95 |
| 05:15.48 | patlabor221 | people who don't have any SUB devices |
| 05:15.49 | Chikorita | u need USB 4 almost everything dese dayz |
| 05:15.52 | captain_proton | 98 plain is crap |
| 05:15.56 | patlabor221 | XP |
| 05:16.02 | patlabor221 | XP is the best of all evils |
| 05:16.15 | JBDiGriz | and licensing on XP is so easy to deal with! |
| 05:16.27 | patlabor221 | sure, just use corp :) |
| 05:16.33 | scanline | USB is for sissies, real men use I2C |
| 05:16.44 | JBDiGriz | just give microsoft your credit card, and they'll handle everything from then on. |
| 05:16.45 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 05:16.47 | Chikorita | lol ok wutever |
| 05:16.52 | patlabor221 | good think chik is a girl then |
| 05:17.00 | JBDiGriz | real men use fibrechannel |
| 05:17.08 | Chikorita | imma girl buh i no sissie >:( |
| 05:17.17 | Chikorita | hmmpf |
| 05:17.23 | scanline | Chikorita: then you're in luck... you need RS-485! |
| 05:17.23 | patlabor221 | you use usb, your "agile" |
| 05:17.26 | captain_proton | fc is just a fancy scsi |
| 05:17.41 | Chikorita | ok im getting losted again |
| 05:18.00 | JBDiGriz | not at all, maybe a fancy token ring, but even that is oversimplification. |
| 05:18.05 | scanline | this one even has cool little wheels on the bottom at right angles, for no particular reason |
| 05:18.23 | patlabor221 | what optical did you have? |
| 05:18.34 | Chikorita | i dunno wut this ie3337 wutever hole iz on my puter.. |
| 05:18.45 | captain_proton | 1394? :) |
| 05:18.53 | patlabor221 | firewire |
| 05:18.53 | captain_proton | the wire of fire! |
| 05:18.54 | JBDiGriz | oooh, firewire |
| 05:19.00 | Chikorita | i dunt use half da thingies dat my puter has |
| 05:19.10 | patlabor221 | how fast is your computer? |
| 05:19.11 | JBDiGriz | or in the words of Steve Jobs fahrwahr |
| 05:19.27 | Chikorita | i jus bought a USB gravis gamepad ,,,i cant wait to use it on BZ |
| 05:19.34 | patlabor221 | not yet |
| 05:19.34 | scanline | JBDiGriz: it's the transport for jagwire |
| 05:19.39 | patlabor221 | but soon probably |
| 05:19.44 | Chikorita | itz plenty fast |
| 05:19.48 | JBDiGriz | scanline: exactly, jagwahr |
| 05:20.00 | Chikorita | buh never fast enuff ;0 |
| 05:20.01 | patlabor221 | then why do you criple it with win98? :) |
| 05:20.11 | Chikorita | i like win98 , im used to it |
| 05:20.12 | JBDiGriz | I just wonder what he's going to do with Panther tomorrow |
| 05:20.12 | scanline | JBDiGriz: sounds like it should be a villain on MacGyver |
| 05:20.12 | patlabor221 | 2k and XP run way faster |
| 05:20.24 | Chikorita | XP is pretty ... |
| 05:20.28 | scanline | JBDiGriz: that's tomorrow? |
| 05:20.31 | scanline | damn, I have to work... |
| 05:20.38 | patlabor221 | that is just a theme, you can change them |
| 05:20.39 | JBDiGriz | scanline: You're showing your age, these guys think of him in SG-1 |
| 05:20.41 | Chikorita | i still like win98 ...call mee sentimental LoL |
| 05:20.53 | patlabor221 | you can make XP look just like 98 |
| 05:20.57 | scanline | I usually attend the keynotes at the local Apple store and piss people off :) |
| 05:20.58 | Chikorita | u can? |
| 05:20.59 | patlabor221 | just go clasic |
| 05:21.01 | scanline | JBDiGriz: hehe, showing my age |
| 05:21.02 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 05:21.02 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 05:21.07 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 05:21.11 | patlabor221 | my XP looks just like a mac :) |
| 05:21.29 | learner | but he is macguyver.. :| |
| 05:21.48 | scanline | learner: well, I knew him in SG1 first.. but quickly picked up a love for MacGyver :) |
| 05:21.48 | learner | :) |
| 05:22.04 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/images/deskyclean.jpg |
| 05:22.28 | scanline | captain_proton: I think I had seen some before I knew you, but you definitely were the one that got me hooked :P |
| 05:22.39 | captain_proton | har |
| 05:22.51 | scanline | hmm.. |
| 05:22.58 | scanline | patlabor221: for some reason I expected to find a photo of your desk |
| 05:22.59 | patlabor221 | Anguns MacGyver was my freakin hero |
| 05:23.02 | JBDiGriz | scanline: Keynote is at 10am tomorrow, but no mention of a webcast yet |
| 05:23.11 | learner | heh, we all hit baka at the same time? ;) |
| 05:23.17 | patlabor221 | no no , desk not clean, desk NASTY |
| 05:23.35 | Chikorita | lol |
| 05:23.41 | scanline | my desk is currently a repostiory for a couple monitors, coffee machine, and a Pile Of Crap (tm) |
| 05:23.48 | Chikorita | i wanna see a pic of his kitty |
| 05:23.50 | Chikorita | cat |
| 05:23.55 | Chikorita | :P |
| 05:24.07 | patlabor221 | I have the family size "keg o crap" (tm) |
| 05:24.09 | Chikorita | anyone wanna c a jpeg of my cat? |
| 05:24.13 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 05:24.20 | Chikorita | okies |
| 05:24.23 | patlabor221 | cap, listen |
| 05:24.25 | JBDiGriz | Chikorita: of course! |
| 05:24.26 | captain_proton | coffee machine! |
| 05:24.28 | Chikorita | i post it sumwhere ...sumtime |
| 05:24.42 | patlabor221 | you can post files on BZBB |
| 05:24.57 | captain_proton | patlabor221: 1 more song first |
| 05:24.57 | learner | That would be cool, chika.. :) |
| 05:25.24 | Chikorita | :) |
| 05:25.39 | patlabor221 | whine bottles make the good plink too |
| 05:25.43 | learner | my buddy has this hilarious video of cats doing crazy things... |
| 05:25.51 | learner | I'll have to post it somewhere.. :) |
| 05:26.01 | scanline | the nokia commercial is my favorite cat video |
| 05:26.01 | patlabor221 | I've seen that |
| 05:26.03 | patlabor221 | ifs funny |
| 05:26.10 | JBDiGriz | a friend emailed a video of a cat that hooked a claw in a fan. |
| 05:26.12 | patlabor221 | when the cat atackss the baby |
| 05:26.21 | Chikorita | ouch |
| 05:26.23 | patlabor221 | the fan was the nokia comercial |
| 05:26.25 | patlabor221 | was faked |
| 05:26.35 | scanline | I'd hope so :) |
| 05:26.48 | JBDiGriz | i was wondering about the history of that one. |
| 05:27.42 | JBDiGriz | then again, my cats have done odd things over the years |
| 05:28.02 | patlabor221 | yeah it was for the phone with a cam in it. |
| 05:30.38 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: update changelog |
| 05:30.43 | patlabor221 | listen |
| 05:31.05 | JBDiGriz | I don't hear anything..... |
| 05:31.12 | patlabor221 | look up |
| 05:31.14 | patlabor221 | click |
| 05:31.16 | patlabor221 | listen |
| 05:31.36 | captain_proton | patlabor221: i'm listening |
| 05:31.42 | patlabor221 | yay |
| 05:32.49 | Chikorita | sleeptime soon |
| 05:32.59 | Chikorita | getting sleepy.. |
| 05:33.01 | patlabor221 | now if I could just get him to watch the RvBs |
| 05:33.02 | Chikorita | -.- |
| 05:33.21 | JBDiGriz | You and learner really should be on the west coast with the hours you keep. |
| 05:33.23 | Chikorita | k nite all |
| 05:33.33 | Chikorita | lol jb |
| 05:33.35 | patlabor221 | get to stay up late, and sleep in :) |
| 05:33.37 | patlabor221 | it's great |
| 05:33.40 | JBDiGriz | g'nite Chika |
| 05:33.46 | patlabor221 | night |
| 05:33.52 | patlabor221 | she's over there on the other side? |
| 05:33.53 | Chikorita | ya learner is a nite person like mee ;0 |
| 05:34.06 | patlabor221 | I like the night live. I like to boogie. |
| 05:34.11 | JBDiGriz | She's in Virginia or so |
| 05:34.13 | Chikorita | lol |
| 05:34.22 | Chikorita | no i in maryland |
| 05:34.22 | patlabor221 | chick, where are you? |
| 05:34.25 | Chikorita | same as learner |
| 05:34.25 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 05:34.36 | patlabor221 | wayyyyyyyyyy over there from us |
| 05:34.38 | Chikorita | buh learner is on da bad side ;0 |
| 05:34.43 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 05:34.46 | JBDiGriz | learner is in Annapolis, are you in Balmer |
| 05:34.47 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 05:35.00 | Chikorita | Balmer? |
| 05:35.05 | captain_proton | time for stereophonic spanish fly |
| 05:35.06 | JBDiGriz | Baltimore! |
| 05:35.07 | Chikorita | u mean Bmore? |
| 05:35.11 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 05:35.13 | Chikorita | no |
| 05:35.17 | learner | hehe, I'm not in annapolis.. :) |
| 05:35.20 | JBDiGriz | don't be less! :) |
| 05:35.20 | Chikorita | i in da western part |
| 05:35.27 | learner | I'm much closer to balmer |
| 05:35.49 | patlabor221 | jzaun is the westymost of us |
| 05:35.54 | JBDiGriz | Too bad, I like Annapolis |
| 05:36.10 | learner | hehe, good crabs near the water.. |
| 05:36.15 | Chikorita | have u ever been to the anne arundal mall learner? |
| 05:36.16 | JBDiGriz | patlabor221 is farther west than I, although I'm closer to the coast. |
| 05:36.22 | learner | of course, chika |
| 05:36.28 | Chikorita | i luv crabcakes yum |
| 05:36.33 | learner | I watch movies at muvico from time to time there |
| 05:36.35 | Chikorita | that iz a kewl mall |
| 05:36.45 | Chikorita | yay dat theatre rox |
| 05:36.51 | patlabor221 | cap is never gonna watch the RvBs |
| 05:37.04 | patlabor221 | I'll burn them and put them on DVD damnit |
| 05:37.24 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: yet more changelog additions |
| 05:37.37 | learner | ok, I have the server up and running finally.. |
| 05:37.56 | Chikorita | okies i really going now ...nite all |
| 05:37.56 | Chikorita | o wait.. |
| 05:37.56 | Chikorita | learner u gonna match wif avengers tommorrow nite? |
| 05:38.00 | Chikorita | lottsa matches scheduled for tommorow |
| 05:38.07 | learner | tomorrow? |
| 05:38.10 | learner | I can |
| 05:38.12 | Chikorita | ya |
| 05:38.14 | learner | where? |
| 05:38.16 | Chikorita | kewlness :) |
| 05:38.18 | learner | when? |
| 05:38.22 | Chikorita | prolly on roses... |
| 05:38.26 | Chikorita | 10pm |
| 05:38.28 | Chikorita | EST |
| 05:38.33 | learner | okay -- heh |
| 05:38.34 | Chikorita | ski is playing |
| 05:38.37 | learner | good time |
| 05:38.41 | Chikorita | yup |
| 05:38.45 | Chikorita | i play betta at nite |
| 05:38.49 | Chikorita | heh |
| 05:38.58 | learner | Me too. I am not a morning person at all |
| 05:38.59 | Chikorita | k byez |
| 05:39.00 | bzgirl | cu Chikorita |
| 05:39.05 | Chikorita | bye bzg |
| 05:39.10 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 05:39.12 | captain_proton | what a great band |
| 05:39.37 | learner | ok, if all of you 1.9 wielding peoples would give me a hand for a sec... |
| 05:39.48 | learner | there's a public server on brlcad.org |
| 05:39.55 | learner | I need swear filter testers |
| 05:40.08 | captain_proton | eep |
| 05:40.10 | learner | i see bzg's ahead of me |
| 05:40.11 | bzgirl | learner: sh|t |
| 05:40.18 | bzgirl | :) |
| 05:40.31 | JBDiGriz | Does that mean you want me to use words, i ordinarily don't? |
| 05:40.33 | bzgirl | im breaking your filter |
| 05:40.34 | learner | I'll be incommunicado once I fire up the client |
| 05:40.38 | learner | yes, jb.. :) |
| 05:40.49 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl is better at it than i! :) |
| 05:41.41 | learner | wierd.. it should have caught that.. |
| 05:41.51 | learner | lemme see |
| 05:42.03 | patlabor221 | will it catch cockbite? |
| 05:42.06 | learner | I noticed I could log in with "f*ck" .. too |
| 05:42.14 | learner | yet not "f*cker" ..heheh |
| 05:43.40 | bzgirl | learner: it crashes my client now logging in |
| 05:43.50 | learner | hmmm |
| 05:44.05 | patlabor221 | to funky town? |
| 05:44.13 | captain_proton | yep |
| 05:44.26 | patlabor221 | kick it G |
| 05:44.27 | learner | cockbite should change to "****bite" |
| 05:44.33 | JBDiGriz | my client keeps crashing, although i can type a couple of words before it does |
| 05:44.54 | learner | odd.. |
| 05:45.22 | learner | jb, can you get me a trace? |
| 05:45.55 | JBDiGriz | I'll have to recompile with debug on |
| 05:46.08 | learner | the server is not letting more than one person in -- that appears to be why it crashes |
| 05:46.18 | JBDiGriz | It's definitely enthusiastic, it won't let me ride a jackass to the cockfights. |
| 05:46.25 | learner | I entered, you died |
| 05:46.48 | learner | odd thing is the server doesn't die |
| 05:46.55 | patlabor221 | LOL the "Middle Asian Network of Global Activities" |
| 05:47.46 | learner | did it just kick you there jb, or did you quit |
| 05:47.55 | JBDiGriz | Also avoid eating shitaake mushrooms on 1.9 |
| 05:48.05 | learner | hehehe |
| 05:48.28 | patlabor221 | to not taunt 1.9, it may as well just kick your ass. |
| 05:48.38 | JBDiGriz | i tried to quit, and it died anyway |
| 05:48.41 | learner | ok -- good enough for a pre-alpha test |
| 05:48.45 | learner | thx everyone |
| 05:48.56 | bzgirl | JBDiGriz: yeah, crashe on exit |
| 05:49.23 | learner | damn, not it won't let me kill the server.. grr |
| 05:49.40 | learner | there -- she's down |
| 05:50.28 | JBDiGriz | I'll have to learn more Yiddish and Arabic expressions. it didn't seem to be catching those! :) |
| 05:50.37 | patlabor221 | I get all kinds of crashes in release builds of 1.9 |
| 05:51.19 | learner | sigh -- I think I'm going to repatch 1.8g2 just to make sure there aren't communication issues |
| 05:56.31 | patlabor221 | can somone who is NOT and admin go and see if they can see dervs religous forum on the main page? |
| 05:57.11 | learner | i don't see it .. which section |
| 05:57.27 | patlabor221 | etc |
| 05:57.35 | captain_proton | you'd know if you could see it :) |
| 05:57.48 | learner | negative.. no can see |
| 05:57.57 | patlabor221 | yay |
| 05:58.13 | learner | if fact, there is no etc.. |
| 05:58.17 | learner | j/k :) |
| 05:58.26 | patlabor221 | cap if he ever asks ya just add who ever he wants to the topic |
| 06:00.58 | captain_proton | yup yup |
| 06:01.19 | captain_proton | all the privledges with none of the responsibility! :) |
| 06:01.51 | patlabor221 | yeah well some of them know you are |
| 06:02.10 | captain_proton | eek! |
| 06:02.10 | patlabor221 | there spif and derv are the moderators for it, that should let them play god |
| 06:02.19 | patlabor221 | or at least lead there sheep |
| 06:02.22 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:02.36 | patlabor221 | all 5 of them |
| 06:03.37 | learner | well, well.. I see why the callsign filtering wasn't working -- that can happen if I always return false.. heh |
| 06:04.23 | captain_proton | =) |
| 06:05.56 | patlabor221 | why does everyone love polls? |
| 06:06.10 | learner | ~dict polls |
| 06:06.20 | learner | dunno |
| 06:06.20 | patlabor221 | and is it just me, are they not the lamest things in the board |
| 06:06.23 | scanline | wahoo... now my collection of background images is organized, so in case I decide to ever change my background I'll have lots to choose from |
| 06:06.39 | captain_proton | scanline: or you could just use propaganda ;) |
| 06:06.55 | patlabor221 | do you have one that is Christina Ricchi in a thong? |
| 06:06.57 | scanline | eh, did the propaganda thing a long time ago.. it got old |
| 06:07.01 | learner | ok, I'm off to sleep -- cya |
| 06:07.05 | patlabor221 | see ya |
| 06:07.21 | scanline | patlabor221: http://navi.picogui.org/images/backgrounds/ |
| 06:07.40 | scanline | it's a pretty small collection, mostly because I almost never change my background :) |
| 06:08.11 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/images/backgrounds/misc/kirby_walking.png <-- patlabor221's new background |
| 06:08.27 | patlabor221 | kirby rocks |
| 06:08.49 | patlabor221 | suck up your enemys the spit them out |
| 06:08.49 | scanline | and... an animation! |
| 06:09.06 | captain_proton | hah |
| 06:09.11 | patlabor221 | I wonder who they are gonna get to play Rei |
| 06:09.16 | captain_proton | i like how shellshock is holding a poll on what we should be doing next |
| 06:09.33 | patlabor221 | is one of them, add some freakin content. |
| 06:09.52 | patlabor221 | ohh us, not them |
| 06:10.02 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 06:10.05 | captain_proton | like "add flags" |
| 06:10.08 | patlabor221 | yeah did you also like the one about "new vehicles in BZflags future" |
| 06:10.39 | patlabor221 | hmm will they give live action rei blue hair? |
| 06:11.30 | captain_proton | they'd better |
| 06:11.45 | patlabor221 | and the evas better not suck |
| 06:12.07 | patlabor221 | but it is wetta, I mean they realy do know what they are doing |
| 06:12.20 | patlabor221 | they made freakin hobits |
| 06:13.37 | patlabor221 | the acress for Misato better be damn hot |
| 06:16.26 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:16.42 | patlabor221 | navi will keep sending me this data even tho it's past midnight there and the url changed won't it? |
| 06:17.08 | captain_proton | yep |
| 06:17.23 | patlabor221 | only geting 7.8 k |
| 06:17.24 | patlabor221 | :( |
| 06:20.13 | scanline | my net connection has been really clogged lately... |
| 06:21.07 | scanline | captain_proton: we should look into cable rates for small businesses... could be a cheaper and easier way to get more upstream |
| 06:21.38 | patlabor221 | for DSL they charge more for biz class |
| 06:21.40 | patlabor221 | least here |
| 06:21.50 | scanline | well, this would be vs getting multiple cable modems |
| 06:21.55 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 06:22.22 | scanline | we're planning on sharing one internet connection between three apartments worth of users plus navi |
| 06:22.25 | patlabor221 | how much upstream do calbes get you ot there |
| 06:22.35 | scanline | I think this one is about 128kbps |
| 06:22.39 | patlabor221 | eww |
| 06:22.46 | scanline | yup |
| 06:22.54 | patlabor221 | I payed an extra 10 a month and got my DSL uped to 256 up |
| 06:22.59 | patlabor221 | but I often get more |
| 06:23.01 | patlabor221 | lot more |
| 06:23.37 | patlabor221 | speakeasy has some high speed upstream deals too |
| 06:24.09 | scanline | before Telocity went under, we were getting 800kbps down and up for $50/month |
| 06:24.18 | patlabor221 | nice |
| 06:24.30 | patlabor221 | I just had them for 1.5 down 128up |
| 06:24.54 | scanline | well, I guess they didn't really go under.. they got bought by DirecTV |
| 06:25.05 | patlabor221 | they went under after that |
| 06:25.06 | scanline | but the service is nowhere near as good |
| 06:25.11 | scanline | oh |
| 06:25.19 | scanline | well, this was before the DirecTV thing |
| 06:25.21 | patlabor221 | still have the modem here :) |
| 06:25.28 | scanline | ooh.. you should open that sucker up |
| 06:25.29 | patlabor221 | I had it with the DTV thing |
| 06:25.36 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 06:25.36 | scanline | the telocity modems had a pretty decent PowerPC |
| 06:25.40 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 06:25.54 | patlabor221 | what would I do with it? |
| 06:25.56 | scanline | IIRC a 75MHz PowerPC with 16MB ram |
| 06:26.00 | scanline | run linux on it! |
| 06:26.15 | patlabor221 | and hook up a drive how? |
| 06:26.22 | patlabor221 | or do anything with it, how? |
| 06:26.24 | scanline | drive? |
| 06:26.25 | scanline | what do you need a drive for? |
| 06:26.29 | patlabor221 | data |
| 06:26.40 | scanline | that's what flash memory is for |
| 06:27.00 | scanline | contrary to the PC-makers' propaganda, it is possible to use a computer without a hard disk |
| 06:27.09 | patlabor221 | I know |
| 06:27.16 | patlabor221 | just what would I do with it |
| 06:27.34 | scanline | would make a decent NAT gateway box |
| 06:27.49 | patlabor221 | I have a decent nat gateway |
| 06:28.01 | scanline | PowerPC development platform |
| 06:28.02 | patlabor221 | it only has 1 ethernet port |
| 06:28.18 | patlabor221 | now a bzfs server that would be coo |
| 06:28.23 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:28.43 | scanline | hey.... |
| 06:28.47 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 06:28.55 | scanline | that would actually be practical for the little Starcraft at Starbucks things we do sometimes |
| 06:28.56 | patlabor221 | ther have to be a shitton of these modems out there |
| 06:29.00 | patlabor221 | they didn't ask for them back |
| 06:29.18 | scanline | because we'd want all the laptops running something starcraft capable rather than something that makes a worthwhile server |
| 06:30.06 | patlabor221 | hmm it's got a motorolla XPC850SRZT50BT on it. |
| 06:30.31 | scanline | yyep, that's a PowerPC |
| 06:30.45 | patlabor221 | and some alcatel chip |
| 06:31.11 | patlabor221 | and a BIG ass cap |
| 06:31.38 | patlabor221 | how would you flash it? |
| 06:31.48 | scanline | depends.. hopefully it has a JTAG port |
| 06:31.58 | scanline | if not, you'd have to do something more creative |
| 06:32.03 | patlabor221 | what does that look like? |
| 06:32.09 | patlabor221 | ohh here's the dsl you need |
| 06:32.09 | scanline | probably find a security hole in the current software and use it to reflash |
| 06:32.23 | scanline | JTAG would be hard to identify.. |
| 06:32.24 | patlabor221 | 3 megs down 768 up |
| 06:32.43 | scanline | usually it's just a couple PCB pads that would only be soldered to a connector during development |
| 06:32.49 | scanline | oooh... |
| 06:32.52 | scanline | how much? :) |
| 06:33.11 | patlabor221 | there is a set of pads that look kinda like where a ribon connector would go |
| 06:33.17 | patlabor221 | that one is 199 a month |
| 06:33.21 | scanline | yikes |
| 06:33.24 | scanline | how many pads? |
| 06:33.29 | patlabor221 | if you go down to 1.5 down, it's 90 a month |
| 06:33.30 | scanline | JTAG is something like 6... don't remember exactly |
| 06:33.44 | patlabor221 | 1.5 down 384 up is 80 |
| 06:33.55 | scanline | 90 a month could be doable if we split this across everyone in the three apartments |
| 06:34.11 | scanline | you are looking in boulder, right? :) |
| 06:34.11 | patlabor221 | jp2 has 10 jp3 has 20 |
| 06:34.19 | patlabor221 | no I'm looking here |
| 06:34.25 | patlabor221 | but they have the same pricing |
| 06:34.30 | patlabor221 | http://www.speakeasy.net/dsl/dsl.mpl |
| 06:34.41 | scanline | most reliable way to see if it has JTAG would be to get a CPU pinout and trace the jtag pins, if it has them |
| 06:34.43 | patlabor221 | pop in your phone and stuff |
| 06:34.53 | patlabor221 | heh you want this thing? |
| 06:35.03 | patlabor221 | I would not know what to do with it. |
| 06:35.15 | scanline | it's tempting, but I already have way too much embedded hardware around here |
| 06:36.29 | patlabor221 | hmmm I think it is running linux allready |
| 06:37.14 | patlabor221 | http://dslproject.speedconnect.us/main.html |
| 06:37.24 | scanline | patlabor221: doubt it |
| 06:37.39 | scanline | patlabor221: I tried to figure out the OS, looked like something custom |
| 06:37.45 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 06:44.44 | captain_proton | time for squirrel nut zippers! |
| 06:44.59 | patlabor221 | what are those little PCs that are all on one board called? |
| 06:45.06 | patlabor221 | like with pentiums? |
| 06:45.08 | captain_proton | single board computers? |
| 06:45.14 | patlabor221 | yeah thats it |
| 06:47.46 | patlabor221 | hmmm or I could gut up this laptop and mount it in a tiny case |
| 06:48.41 | patlabor221 | well time for sleep, see ya all later |
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| 10:57.33 | sussudio | *$()#@$@# |
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| 12:59.40 | mmu_man | 7. BZFlag |
| 12:59.44 | mmu_man | nice ranking |
| 13:15.12 | [dmp] | ITS ALIVE :)))) |
| 13:18.41 | Chestal | bzflag or your computer? |
| 13:21.42 | [dmp] | my server |
| 13:21.50 | [dmp] | new processor did the trick. |
| 13:22.04 | [dmp] | I now wonder, if the old mobo was ok, after all |
| 13:26.59 | Chestal | probably |
| 13:27.05 | Chestal | same kind of CPU as before? |
| 13:30.54 | [dmp] | two pins on my 512mb ram module is "brown" as if its burned. Im not sure if its a good idea to use this |
| 13:31.02 | [dmp] | I the h.... happend :-| |
| 13:32.09 | [dmp] | before: duron 1.3, now XP 2000 |
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| 13:39.42 | learnerAtWork | better |
| 14:04.38 | [dmp] | des |
| 14:04.39 | [dmp] | ls |
| 14:08.51 | [dmp] | oops |
| 14:09.07 | [dmp] | i cant handle two keyboards :) |
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| 14:09.25 | Prophet | does anyone know what to do with cheaters? |
| 14:09.32 | Prophet | got a cheater at xmission |
| 14:09.50 | breadhat | shoot them |
| 14:09.56 | Prophet | ;-) |
| 14:10.05 | breadhat | with a firing squad |
| 14:10.13 | Prophet | can i contact an admin or something? |
| 14:10.22 | breadhat | dmp: you could try using it, if linunx freaks out, then dont use it :) |
| 14:10.36 | breadhat | hm, xmission... theres alot of admins for that one |
| 14:10.42 | breadhat | I dunno who they are :) |
| 14:10.49 | Prophet | dmp? |
| 14:11.06 | breadhat | [dmp] |
| 14:11.09 | Prophet | do not understand |
| 14:11.40 | [dmp] | Im not an admin on xmission, no |
| 14:11.43 | breadhat | hes a another person in here |
| 14:11.52 | breadhat | and I was asnwering a question :) |
| 14:12.32 | Prophet | sorry not used to IRC |
| 14:12.57 | Prophet | but basically u cant help me? |
| 14:13.02 | breadhat | I cant |
| 14:13.17 | Prophet | ok, go shoot him then ;-) |
| 14:13.20 | Prophet | bye |
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| 14:16.10 | breadhat | bzgirl has changed her username :) |
| 14:16.45 | bzgirl | breadhat: in xchat yes |
| 14:17.02 | sussudio | there's a thin line between lag and cheat |
| 14:17.45 | bzgirl | breadhat: do you still find the need to /whois me? :) |
| 14:18.06 | bzgirl | breadhat: or does it automaticly show? |
| 14:18.14 | breadhat | *** bzgirl (~chatelain@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) has joined |
| 14:18.14 | breadhat | +channel #bzflag |
| 14:18.22 | bzgirl | ahh |
| 14:20.52 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 14:21.05 | captain_proton | comment about a firing squad reminds me of a goon show |
| 14:21.37 | breadhat | goon show? |
| 14:21.54 | captain_proton | *gasp* |
| 14:22.26 | captain_proton | "goon show" |
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| 15:02.14 | breadhat | heya bryjen |
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| 15:29.12 | prot-work | yay i'm here |
| 15:32.26 | sussudio | no youre not |
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| 15:39.19 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.57 | Patlabor221 | sup |
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| 15:44.14 | ak|ra | nuthi |
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| 15:50.30 | bryjen | ~dict subversive |
| 15:51.49 | bryjen | heh. I liked gdict's answer better. Subversive: Tending to subvert; having a tendency to overthrow and ruin. |
| 15:51.52 | Patlabor221 | is it time to overthow "theman" ? |
| 15:53.02 | JBDiGriz | You are "theman". |
| 15:53.06 | Patlabor221 | I am? |
| 15:53.08 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 15:53.10 | bryjen | Just ruin't n spoil't |
| 15:53.10 | Patlabor221 | damn |
| 15:53.43 | Patlabor221 | can I make spiff the man for a day? |
| 15:54.05 | JBDiGriz | Only on his 21st birthday. |
| 15:54.11 | bryjen | or doug? |
| 15:54.16 | Patlabor221 | damn thats in like 30 years |
| 15:54.28 | sussudio | not in pigyears |
| 15:54.39 | Patlabor221 | oh then 7 |
| 15:56.07 | bryjen | what's with the hyperlink question marks on the Work In Progress pages? |
| 15:56.21 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't know them as real words |
| 15:56.22 | sussudio | intermip uses rtl8139's in all their servers |
| 15:56.23 | sussudio | ... |
| 15:56.30 | Patlabor221 | so it think they have pages that say what they are |
| 15:56.31 | JBDiGriz | wiki makes new pages for anything with uppercase in the middle |
| 15:56.51 | Patlabor221 | can we turn that off? |
| 15:56.55 | JBDiGriz | if you click on the question marks, you can create a new page |
| 15:57.01 | bryjen | Ah. |
| 15:57.33 | bryjen | So who want to do the JeffM2501 page ;) |
| 15:57.59 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 15:58.12 | Patlabor221 | better make it REALY cool |
| 15:59.29 | JBDiGriz | It looks like there are some with that feature turned off, but I haven't found the command. |
| 16:00.37 | Patlabor221 | does it have help? |
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| 16:05.57 | JBDiGriz | I was just browsing through the faq, if you add `` before the second uppercase, it won't make a new page. I tried it on a couple of the links. |
| 16:10.40 | JBDiGriz | I still don't know why OpenGL doesn't have a page. It might be an admin command to deletepage, but the other non-pages are gone. |
| 16:11.26 | Patlabor221 | maybe it has a list of known words or something |
| 16:19.27 | Patlabor221 | realy bugs me what he did to chik the other day. |
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| 16:23.33 | JBDiGriz | Who did what to chik? |
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| 16:28.51 | Patlabor221 | susudio |
| 16:30.17 | JBDiGriz | What did he do? |
| 16:30.34 | bzgirl | he told her to do /server help |
| 16:30.47 | Patlabor221 | knowing she didn't know anything about IRC |
| 16:30.49 | bzgirl | much like the old f12 "gag" |
| 16:30.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:31.07 | bzgirl | newbie abuse |
| 16:31.21 | Patlabor221 | or "hit alt+F4 to get a warez site" to get rid of all the MIRCers |
| 16:31.38 | Nidhoggr | that's like people used to say type "/sign" to sign up for the channel ops list. |
| 16:31.55 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:32.07 | JBDiGriz | I'm not the IRC expert either, always used the old Unix write command, but I ignored sussudio a while back. |
| 16:32.16 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:32.21 | Patlabor221 | many people have |
| 16:32.29 | prot-work | write2 is better :) |
| 16:32.29 | Patlabor221 | he was baned here for a long while as well |
| 16:32.38 | prot-work | even if it is scary as hell |
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| 16:32.50 | Nidhoggr | ytalk :) |
| 16:33.15 | JBDiGriz | I never saw write2, and it's not in my current man pages -o- |
| 16:33.37 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: not surprising :) |
| 16:33.50 | [dmp]2 | can anyone access bzflag.baat.dk ? |
| 16:33.55 | prot-work | it was written by a friend of mine (he's currently trying to get it into gnu) |
| 16:34.24 | Patlabor221 | dmp I can' |
| 16:34.27 | Chestal | dmp: works for me |
| 16:34.27 | JBDiGriz | [dmp]2: Yes |
| 16:34.36 | [dmp]2 | cool :) |
| 16:36.47 | Patlabor221 | one of these fatboy slim remixes reminds me of starfox |
| 16:37.27 | JBDiGriz | Nidhoggr: How are the eyes? 8^) |
| 16:38.57 | [dmp]2 | Actually, spam is usefull. It seesm that the mailserver is working again.. "whee" |
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| 17:16.30 | learnerAtWork | dangit -- I should have gone over to apple's office today.. grr |
| 17:16.39 | learnerAtWork | didn't know the webcast wasn't going to be live |
| 17:16.49 | prot-work | keynote? |
| 17:16.54 | learnerAtWork | yes |
| 17:17.18 | Patlabor221 | is it time to anounce another machine that costs 500$ more then it should? |
| 17:17.24 | learnerAtWork | I could be watching it via satellite from the horses mouth |
| 17:18.21 | prot-work | hehe |
| 17:19.17 | learnerAtWork | pwd |
| 17:19.25 | prot-work | pwd! |
| 17:20.59 | bryjen | I saw at least three players whose email on the scoreboard was Administrator@foo.bar last yesterday |
| 17:21.13 | prot-work | har |
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| 17:22.02 | bryjen | No root@ that i recall |
| 17:24.04 | Patlabor221 | a number of OEMS ship there 2k systems with the autologin as admin |
| 17:24.08 | learnerAtWork | hehehehe.. oops.. I just realized where my pwd went! |
| 17:24.13 | prot-work | sheesh |
| 17:24.20 | prot-work | denver to tokyo $429 |
| 17:24.34 | Patlabor221 | what ya gonna do there? |
| 17:24.40 | prot-work | dunno :) |
| 17:24.50 | prot-work | tokyo is a damn cool place though |
| 17:24.54 | breadhat | thats it? |
| 17:24.59 | Patlabor221 | it is |
| 17:26.49 | Patlabor221 | ewwww, people have been puting crap in the music server |
| 17:26.58 | Patlabor221 | N'Sync - Bye Bye Bye.mp3 |
| 17:27.04 | learnerPO | heh |
| 17:27.20 | breadhat | isnt that more than crap? |
| 17:27.40 | Patlabor221 | ummm that would be nasty |
| 17:27.46 | Patlabor221 | and very very unsanitary |
| 17:27.57 | Patlabor221 | and other words ending in y |
| 17:28.18 | prot-work | Patlabor221: would keep random people outta the machine rooms :) |
| 17:28.26 | breadhat | extraordinaraly puky |
| 17:28.27 | learnerPO | and hilarious if it wasn't your server and you didn't like the person.. heheheh |
| 17:28.54 | prot-work | i -really- wouldn't wanna clean that sh*t up :P |
| 17:29.17 | learnerPO | oops, someone just dropped a turd on pat's box.. |
| 17:29.19 | breadhat | you shouldnt have said that :) |
| 17:29.27 | prot-work | hehe |
| 17:30.54 | learnerPO | droppings.. droppings.. |
| 17:32.36 | prot-work | upset? |
| 17:33.29 | learnerUpset | pissed, rather |
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| 17:33.47 | learnerUpset | 'bout the whole keynote mixup |
| 17:33.55 | prot-work | ah |
| 17:33.59 | prot-work | you'll live |
| 17:34.08 | prot-work | i want to attend a keynote with scanline |
| 17:34.12 | prot-work | and watch him clap at random times |
| 17:35.01 | bzgirl | what is a keynote? |
| 17:35.13 | learnerUpset | new toys |
| 17:35.22 | learnerUpset | ~dict keynote |
| 17:35.45 | bzgirl | ooh--fall collection |
| 17:35.56 | learnerUpset | it's steve jobs talking to all of the developers at wwdc |
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| 17:36.26 | bzgirl | that new Osx 10.3? |
| 17:36.28 | learnerUpset | it's not macworld (the _other_ big keynote) |
| 17:36.47 | learnerUpset | 10.3 will be previewed |
| 17:37.34 | learnerUpset | supposedly |
| 17:38.48 | learnerUpset | more interested in specific bug/deficiency fixes and hardware announcements |
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| 17:42.24 | learnerUpset | hehe, isn't one of the bzflag servers on hashmark.net? |
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| 18:10.09 | Patlabor221 | I am realy starting to dislike derv |
| 18:10.25 | prot-work | what'd he do now? |
| 18:11.05 | Patlabor221 | 1) states that all views that are not in line with his gods teachings are of evil |
| 18:11.18 | Patlabor221 | and " but I felt oncoming persecution by Patlabor" |
| 18:11.31 | learnerUpset | but they are evil... muahaha |
| 18:11.37 | learnerUpset | :P jk |
| 18:11.53 | Patlabor221 | seems I worship the devil for simply questioning what is put in front of me |
| 18:12.41 | prot-work | but of course |
| 18:13.04 | Patlabor221 | the real fun begins when you prove to them that there saitin is just an aspect of there god |
| 18:13.10 | Patlabor221 | that usualy gets them goin |
| 18:13.58 | Patlabor221 | is there a curses lib for windows? |
| 18:14.11 | prot-work | cygwin has one |
| 18:14.23 | Patlabor221 | is there a non cygwin one? |
| 18:14.36 | larsl_56k | There is one (don't remember the name). It might not be ncurses compatible, but it might be fixes. |
| 18:14.43 | larsl_56k | fixed. |
| 18:14.44 | learnerUpset | there is one.. |
| 18:15.03 | learnerUpset | it's not curses compatible, but you can make it compatible with a few simple wrapper routines |
| 18:15.15 | larsl_56k | Nice. |
| 18:15.34 | Patlabor221 | cus that would be cool |
| 18:15.59 | learnerUpset | I would've then I realized it was going to be for windows and that I had just hit my head really hard |
| 18:16.04 | learnerUpset | so I didn't |
| 18:16.06 | learnerUpset | :) |
| 18:16.14 | prot-work | Patlabor221: an MFC irc bot is almost as wrong as IRIX putting ping in /etc |
| 18:16.28 | Patlabor221 | well I am evil |
| 18:16.29 | larsl_56k | Binaries in /etc? |
| 18:16.57 | learnerUpset | yes irix is nasty sometimes with oddities like that |
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| 18:22.47 | larsl_56k | http://pdcurses.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:22.54 | larsl_56k | That's the Win32 curses. |
| 18:23.04 | sussudio | is there a foulcurses.sourceforge.net? |
| 18:23.35 | larsl_56k | PD = Public Domain. |
| 18:23.49 | sussudio | larsl_56k: it. was. a. joke. |
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| 18:42.56 | learnerUpset | ah, dual g5 2ghz -- rumors on the mark |
| 18:47.28 | Nidhoggr | hrm. how do you check out 1.7 from bzflag.org cvs? |
| 18:47.48 | learnerAtWork | cvs -d ... checkout -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 18:48.23 | larsl_56k | Is the current code in that branch == 1.7g2? |
| 18:49.15 | Nidhoggr | do I need the -z3? |
| 18:49.30 | learnerAtWork | no the current code is back on HEAD now |
| 18:49.36 | learnerAtWork | -z3 is "polite" |
| 18:49.42 | learnerAtWork | does stream compression |
| 18:50.17 | learnerAtWork | what do you mean by "current", larsl |
| 18:50.29 | larsl_56k | Yes, I meant the current code in the v1_7 branch. |
| 18:51.10 | learnerAtWork | 1.7g2, as released, is in v1_7 -- the absolute latest is sitting on HEAD |
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| 18:52.26 | [dmp] | hi Mayhem |
| 18:53.28 | Nidhoggr | I keep getting EOF from server. |
| 18:53.44 | Nidhoggr | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 18:53.49 | Nidhoggr | is that right? |
| 18:54.01 | Mayhem | hi all, and [dmp] :) |
| 18:54.13 | learnerAtWork | looks right at a glance, nid |
| 18:54.29 | Mayhem | Nidhoggr: are you wanting 1.7 or the current HEAD? |
| 18:54.38 | learnerAtWork | anonymous is rather bitchy, mind you.. might take several tries before it works |
| 18:54.39 | Nidhoggr | the current head is 1.9 |
| 18:54.47 | Nidhoggr | iirc |
| 18:54.57 | Nidhoggr | bbiab.. gotta work on some customer stuff. |
| 18:55.11 | prot-work | customers suck |
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| 18:55.29 | Mayhem | we would all be better off without customers. |
| 18:55.45 | Mayhem | cept for the whole 'money' thing... |
| 18:55.46 | learnerAtWork | just depends how and when and where they suck.. |
| 18:56.05 | [dmp] | "where they suck" .. hmmm :-) |
| 18:56.25 | learnerAtWork | hehehe.. potty brain |
| 18:56.27 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 18:57.05 | Mayhem | [dmp]: what was the cause of the non-booting? |
| 18:57.35 | [dmp] | dead cpu for sure. Properly also dead mobo and ram. |
| 18:57.50 | Tupone | so you changed all |
| 18:58.07 | [dmp] | and with my luck it was the 512mb block and not the 128mbn.. so im running with only 128mb now :( |
| 18:58.17 | [dmp] | except ram, yes |
| 18:58.32 | Tupone | lucky |
| 18:58.38 | Tupone | for the ram I mean |
| 18:58.43 | Mayhem | It killed one of your ram sticks? wow. |
| 18:58.53 | larsl_56k | [dmp]: If you're running Linux you can patch it to ignore the broken memory bits. |
| 18:58.57 | [dmp] | Yeah, it got burn-marks too :) |
| 18:59.04 | larsl_56k | Ah. |
| 18:59.28 | Mayhem | Ssssssmokin' |
| 18:59.31 | [dmp] | :) |
| 18:59.54 | Mayhem | Still seems to be ram problems, its ranking me as #1 on ducati ctf... |
| 19:00.00 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 19:00.38 | sussudio | you can buy dimm coolers :-| |
| 19:01.41 | [dmp] | anyway, i just saw that i get about 13 hits a day on the ladder. Im thinking if its worth keep it running. |
| 19:01.57 | [dmp] | mysql suffers from the lack of memory right now :( |
| 19:02.12 | Mayhem | 13 hits a day? is that all? |
| 19:02.13 | learnerAtWork | definately, dmp -- it's a good "general measure" of how well I'm improving.. :) |
| 19:02.21 | learnerAtWork | I love it |
| 19:02.21 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 19:02.49 | learnerAtWork | is it purely score based, or are you weighted against the players your playing against? |
| 19:03.04 | [dmp] | before with the additional memory it computer handles the extra load from the ladder fine.. But not now. |
| 19:03.58 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: http://bzflag.baat.dk/new/about.php read: "How does CTF ladder work?".. If that makes sense at all. |
| 19:04.24 | learnerAtWork | mkay, thx |
| 19:05.03 | prot-work | hah |
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| 19:07.50 | Nidhoggr | can anyone get into cvs.bzflag.org right now? |
| 19:08.07 | Nidhoggr | I think It might be working now. |
| 19:08.42 | learnerAtWork | [dmp]: is the "all relevant" ctf standings a simple divide by all played average? |
| 19:08.50 | prot-work | Nidhoggr: anoncvs is old :P |
| 19:09.04 | Nidhoggr | ? |
| 19:09.06 | learnerAtWork | cap, he's trying to get v1_7 |
| 19:09.13 | prot-work | ah |
| 19:09.25 | Nidhoggr | I need it to compile bzadmin on dragon.org |
| 19:09.37 | larsl_56k | Nidhoggr: Why not get the g2 package? |
| 19:09.53 | Nidhoggr | because I like to keep current with CVS generally. |
| 19:10.07 | Nidhoggr | it's just an old habit. |
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| 19:10.21 | larsl_56k | I think that g2 is the latest (and last) code on the v1_7 branch. |
| 19:10.25 | learnerAtWork | ah, nid, then you would want head not v1_7 |
| 19:10.27 | prot-work | well, current with cvs means not 1.7 |
| 19:10.35 | stibnite | phew |
| 19:10.53 | Nidhoggr | hrm |
| 19:10.54 | larsl_56k | I don't think bzadmin builds with current CVS right now. |
| 19:11.08 | larsl_56k | Patches welcome, though. =) |
| 19:11.08 | learnerAtWork | so go off and download nid.. :) |
| 19:11.12 | Nidhoggr | so if I co v1_7, I'm not getting 1.7? |
| 19:11.19 | learnerAtWork | no, you are |
| 19:11.29 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: the "CTF"-ladder covers all ctf-games found (no matter which server), and the same for FFA-ladder |
| 19:11.37 | learnerAtWork | but if that's what you want, then just download off of sf |
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| 19:12.03 | learnerAtWork | [dmp]: does that mean it is a plain average, then? |
| 19:12.24 | Nidhoggr | well, it's working now. part of it is that I have it scripted for CVS. I suppose I could use wget. :) |
| 19:15.01 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: Not exactly. "All ctf-servers" is handled like its a single server. Eg: So if you gain points from ducati, and another guy gains points on rosemeyers.. this is handled like you have been playing on the same server. |
| 19:15.36 | Nidhoggr | hrm.. I could potentially script a 1.9 cvs download and build, and run a test server on dragon.org.. can time the download and build for a few times a day... that way people have a test place for 1.9 on a fast, reliable connection. |
| 19:15.57 | Mayhem | I seem to do ok even though I very rarely play on anything other than ducati:5156 |
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| 19:17.00 | learnerAtWork | [dmp]: thx, that clarifies quite a bit.. |
| 19:17.45 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: If you think of a better expression, please tell me :) |
| 19:18.23 | learnerAtWork | no, dmp -- it makes sense, there are just a handful of ways the "all" one could be computed.. |
| 19:19.03 | learnerAtWork | good to know I don't need to play on rose to boost up it's score so my "all" score is higher.. :) |
| 19:19.24 | [dmp] | hehee |
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| 19:20.44 | Tupone | I'm trying ducati alone, with 1 robot, new version. Whenever I shoot, He disconnect me |
| 19:23.33 | prot-work | is this with current? |
| 19:23.43 | learnerAtWork | the server I had running last night would kick existing players off after the first message too |
| 19:24.17 | Tupone | mine is current, ducati don't know |
| 19:24.38 | prot-work | current with developer or anon cvs? |
| 19:24.49 | Tupone | with ssh |
| 19:24.50 | learnerAtWork | mine was current head, cap |
| 19:24.58 | prot-work | hm |
| 19:25.10 | prot-work | there were some momentary crashes due to MAC adding reason to MsgKilled |
| 19:25.16 | learnerAtWork | only allowed one player to be connected.. |
| 19:25.31 | learnerAtWork | players said their clients were crashing on them |
| 19:25.32 | prot-work | but those shouldn't be an issue if everything is current |
| 19:25.44 | prot-work | well we need to get backtraces if people are crashing |
| 19:25.53 | learnerAtWork | yes |
| 19:25.56 | prot-work | there are probably still a number of bugs with the playerid switch |
| 19:26.26 | learnerAtWork | it was mixed with koth, though -- too, so my situation was not a clean case in itself. |
| 19:27.30 | prot-work | koth shouldn't introduce any crashes |
| 19:27.31 | prot-work | was this with my update or yours? :) |
| 19:27.55 | learnerAtWork | I didn't think so either, cap -- just pointing it out |
| 19:28.09 | prot-work | at any rate, we can't do anything without backtraces |
| 19:28.49 | learnerAtWork | I'm going to try my server patch (non koth) on v1_7 just to make sure probably tonight |
| 19:29.40 | Mayhem | prot-work: perhaps a simple 'how to compile a debug version of bzflag' guide is needed? |
| 19:31.32 | larsl_56k | autogen.sh --enable-debug |
| 19:31.33 | larsl_56k | =) |
| 19:31.58 | Tupone | Message from the server gave Your end is not using udp, update your client |
| 19:31.59 | larsl_56k | Unless things have changed in 1.9. |
| 19:33.06 | sussudio | wiki wiki wild wild west |
| 19:34.30 | Chestal | hmm, my computer bootet itself during a fsck |
| 19:35.02 | Patlabor221 | mine would do that when I was building BZ |
| 19:35.53 | Tupone | Could be that ducati, the only public site, is old? Things works if I start bzfs locally! |
| 19:36.44 | Chestal | 1.9 ducati is running code that'sless than 20 hours old |
| 19:37.09 | prot-work | uh |
| 19:37.15 | prot-work | shouldn't it be ./configure --enable-debug ? |
| 19:38.03 | larsl_56k | You'd need to generate configure first. |
| 19:38.09 | larsl_56k | Unless it is in CVS now. |
| 19:38.21 | prot-work | well yeah you need to generate it |
| 19:38.48 | prot-work | does autogen.sh run configure with args if you give it args? |
| 19:38.50 | larsl_56k | And if you give arguments to autogen.sh, it will run configure for you with those arguments. |
| 19:38.56 | prot-work | ah :) |
| 19:38.58 | larsl_56k | In 1.7, at least. |
| 19:40.46 | prot-work | wow... |
| 19:40.49 | prot-work | webmonkey has died |
| 19:44.02 | sussudio | ~webmonkey |
| 19:44.38 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: Always mount a scratch monkey. |
| 19:44.42 | Patlabor221 | the AT webmonkey? |
| 19:44.53 | Mayhem | woot, more funky graphical corruption :) |
| 19:45.15 | Patlabor221 | what card you using mayhem? |
| 19:45.37 | Patlabor221 | I've been seing some, not like yours, but I think we are losing our lists |
| 19:45.54 | Patlabor221 | states arn't binding right |
| 19:46.30 | Mayhem | Patlabor221: voodoo3. But problems only happen in 1.9 |
| 19:46.38 | prot-work | webmonkey.com |
| 19:46.43 | prot-work | used to be -the- site for web stuff |
| 19:46.57 | prot-work | when hotwired was still...existing |
| 19:48.12 | learnerAtWork | what happened to the discussion on making the conky naming more consistent.. |
| 19:48.19 | learnerAtWork | where's 1.8... ?? |
| 19:48.40 | learnerAtWork | er, versioning not naming |
| 19:48.58 | Tupone | crash seems to happen only with robots |
| 19:49.06 | Patlabor221 | 1.8 was the fialed version |
| 19:49.06 | Mayhem | 1.8 was still-born |
| 19:49.22 | Mayhem | Tupone: can you join and shoot the red tank for me please |
| 19:50.02 | Mayhem | oops, when I'm a bit closer. trying to get a screenshot |
| 19:50.03 | Chestal | hmm, is there no ACPI support in standard 2.4 kernels? |
| 19:50.18 | prot-work | Chestal: they've got support, but it doesn't do anything useful |
| 19:50.29 | prot-work | you can cat a proc file and watch it spew data as you push the power button |
| 19:50.34 | Chestal | prot-work: all I want is that my computer manages to shutdown when I do a halt |
| 19:50.45 | Chestal | configuring my new kernel righ tnow |
| 19:50.46 | learnerAtWork | still born how? |
| 19:51.00 | Chestal | it says, I can use APM or ACPI, but ACPI doesn't show up in menuconfig at all |
| 19:51.01 | Mayhem | thanks :) |
| 19:51.07 | learnerAtWork | there was chatter about finally moving to x.x.x[.x] versioning.. |
| 19:51.08 | Mayhem | to Tupone |
| 19:51.09 | prot-work | Chestal: weird |
| 19:51.20 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: just x.x.x |
| 19:51.20 | Tupone | Mayhem: yes |
| 19:51.48 | Tupone | prot-work: I see problems only with robots |
| 19:52.06 | prot-work | Tupone: robots are probably broken right now :) |
| 19:52.06 | Mayhem | not surprised robots are broken... |
| 19:52.12 | Tupone | prot-work: could be that reconnection? |
| 19:52.20 | prot-work | Tupone: that, probably playerid issues too |
| 19:52.44 | Tupone | But why they work on my own bzfs? |
| 19:53.01 | learnerAtWork | ah, no build versioning.. I could care less really -- 1.blah.f43 is a bit confusing, though |
| 19:53.01 | Tupone | Yeah. I don't ask anymore |
| 19:53.18 | prot-work | build versioning doesn't really work with our style of development |
| 19:53.20 | Mayhem | http://homepages.zen.co.uk/zen13666/bz/1.9a0_explode.png |
| 19:53.32 | prot-work | since we don't have 'official' builds |
| 19:53.35 | learnerAtWork | cap, did you merge the koth patch? |
| 19:53.40 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: not yet |
| 19:54.07 | Patlabor221 | cap did you merge in KOTH? |
| 19:54.22 | bzgirl | prot-work: cap did you merge in KOTH? |
| 19:54.24 | bzgirl | :) |
| 19:55.06 | bzgirl | i can use the sf patch to patch the snapshot though right? |
| 19:55.19 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 19:55.21 | Patlabor221 | what was the patch made against? |
| 19:55.25 | prot-work | bzgirl: yeah |
| 19:55.30 | learnerAtWork | yes, that should work bzg |
| 19:55.35 | prot-work | Patlabor221: i've updated it to latest |
| 19:55.40 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 19:55.48 | Patlabor221 | how does it know where the hill is? |
| 19:55.52 | prot-work | hehe |
| 19:55.57 | Patlabor221 | a base? |
| 19:56.01 | Patlabor221 | highest block? |
| 19:56.01 | prot-work | i'd like to wait to merge koth, etc until playerid is a bit more solid |
| 19:56.11 | prot-work | Patlabor221: the "king" is determined by a score calc |
| 19:56.22 | bzgirl | but that will run a 1.9 server , possible to run koth on g2 server? |
| 19:56.27 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: First articles from the keynote don't have any surprises, G5, panther, Safari 1.0 and new iChat |
| 19:56.28 | Patlabor221 | ohh, so it's more like kill the wabbit |
| 19:56.28 | learnerAtWork | I'll believe it when I see a king driving "up" a sloped hill.. :) |
| 19:56.29 | Mayhem | Maybe 'tag' is a more appropriate name. |
| 19:56.48 | prot-work | bzgirl: one of those older patch versions will apply to g2, but everyone will need patched clients for it to work |
| 19:56.49 | learnerAtWork | jb, I've noticed (save the new dev tools!) |
| 19:57.00 | bzgirl | ahh ok |
| 19:57.13 | prot-work | it -is- a protocol breaking patch |
| 19:57.42 | learnerAtWork | kinda like "TAG -- YOU'RE *IT*" .. :) |
| 19:57.53 | Mayhem | learnerAtWork: exactly |
| 19:58.09 | Patlabor221 | I can add a "hill" tag to the map format while I am mucking with it if you want |
| 19:58.12 | Mayhem | expect you become 'it' by having more kills |
| 19:58.25 | prot-work | Patlabor221: the hill is metaphorical :) |
| 19:58.27 | Patlabor221 | it's the subspace rabit hunt |
| 19:58.45 | learnerAtWork | that's what I was thinking, pat |
| 19:58.46 | bzgirl | i was going to run ecks--koth |
| 19:58.47 | Patlabor221 | cap, have you never played a FPS true king of the hill? |
| 19:58.52 | Patlabor221 | it's fun |
| 19:58.52 | bzgirl | decks* |
| 19:59.06 | Patlabor221 | you mark one area as the "hill" |
| 19:59.16 | prot-work | bzgirl: how about we organize a game for 1.9 thats koth decks |
| 19:59.18 | Patlabor221 | and you get points as long as you are the only one in that area |
| 19:59.22 | prot-work | and Patlabor221 can provide a windows build to all the kids |
| 19:59.34 | bzgirl | prot-work: ok sure |
| 19:59.43 | Patlabor221 | I can when I am connvinced 1.9 dosn't suck |
| 19:59.56 | prot-work | 1.9 doesn't suck |
| 20:00.00 | Mayhem | Patlabor221: that is a good gamestyle. I think calling the tag game KOTH is misleading |
| 20:00.06 | Patlabor221 | on windows it crashes A LOT |
| 20:00.12 | prot-work | Patlabor221: so debug it :P |
| 20:00.29 | Patlabor221 | yes mayhem, I would call it rabit hunt, it's not tag nor koth |
| 20:00.46 | Patlabor221 | cap, something is uninialised, works fine in debug |
| 20:00.48 | Patlabor221 | been trying |
| 20:00.58 | JBDiGriz | How about "Kill the Leader"? |
| 20:01.09 | Patlabor221 | that is one type |
| 20:01.09 | learnerAtWork | I was thinking of a "timed" carrier koth were the longer you hold the flag is what makes you king.. |
| 20:01.13 | Mayhem | how about 'Tall Poppy Syndrome' |
| 20:01.25 | Patlabor221 | learner that is CTC |
| 20:01.29 | Patlabor221 | capture the chicken |
| 20:01.36 | learnerAtWork | lol, pat |
| 20:01.40 | Patlabor221 | well it is |
| 20:01.40 | prot-work | bzflag needs a chicken |
| 20:01.50 | Patlabor221 | and you know it |
| 20:01.52 | learnerAtWork | a real one that is hard as heck to shoot |
| 20:01.55 | Mayhem | every game needs a chicken, see what it did for Counterstrike |
| 20:02.25 | prot-work | Patlabor221: don't you have one of those memory-checker-thingummys? |
| 20:02.35 | Patlabor221 | yeah I need to install it |
| 20:02.42 | Patlabor221 | it makes it all go SLOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 20:03.10 | prot-work | win 4 |
| 20:03.12 | prot-work | er |
| 20:03.49 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/imgs/chicken.png |
| 20:04.24 | bzgirl | which file is it? the version 2 patch? https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=496659&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 20:04.54 | prot-work | bzgirl: which? latest? look at the dates |
| 20:05.29 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-202-1-3-160.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:06.12 | learnerAtWork | you probably want the "top-most" bzg |
| 20:06.25 | prot-work | iirc its marked 6-22-03 |
| 20:06.32 | bzgirl | ok |
| 20:06.35 | bzgirl | got it |
| 20:06.54 | prot-work | make sure you grab the 3 .rgb's too |
| 20:07.20 | bzgirl | oh yeah :) |
| 20:07.27 | bzgirl | was going to :) |
| 20:07.39 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-13-153.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 20:07.59 | learnerAtWork | white superbullets was a good idea.. :) |
| 20:08.19 | prot-work | they look scary :) |
| 20:11.58 | Chestal | prot: Command stuff is in the build, but not used yet, right? |
| 20:11.59 | *** join/#bzflag tvon[wk] (~tvon@208.45.121.118) |
| 20:12.01 | tvon[wk] | *ping* |
| 20:12.05 | prot-work | *pong* |
| 20:12.10 | prot-work | Chestal: right |
| 20:12.11 | Patlabor221 | *plunk* |
| 20:12.27 | tvon[wk] | *onomonopia* |
| 20:12.32 | tvon[wk] | onomonapia..?... |
| 20:12.38 | Patlabor221 | wtf is that? |
| 20:12.51 | prot-work | onomotopoeia? or something like that |
| 20:13.04 | Chestal | hmm, maybe server should send first lag ping real fast, even when player is stil in off |
| 20:13.07 | JBDiGriz | Something that sounds like what it is |
| 20:13.08 | tvon[wk] | wow, someone put a 't' in it |
| 20:13.15 | tvon[wk] | onomatopoeia |
| 20:13.23 | prot-work | heh, i was close |
| 20:13.44 | tvon[wk] | good cath on the 't' |
| 20:13.48 | tvon[wk] | So whats up with bz these days? |
| 20:13.51 | JBDiGriz | prot-work wins the bzflag spelling bee, now back to your desks. |
| 20:13.59 | Chestal | ~dict onomatopoeia |
| 20:14.16 | prot-work | like...plunk |
| 20:14.20 | tvon[wk] | or buzz |
| 20:14.23 | Chestal | pffrrrz |
| 20:14.28 | prot-work | heh |
| 20:14.30 | tvon[wk] | exactly |
| 20:14.31 | tvon[wk] | hah |
| 20:14.35 | tvon[wk] | or *bitch-slap* |
| 20:14.43 | Chestal | ~dict siderodromophobia |
| 20:14.59 | tvon[wk] | ...fear of not knowing the definition of a word? |
| 20:15.13 | Chestal | no, the simple fear of trains |
| 20:15.28 | prot-work | fear of trains.... |
| 20:15.38 | Chestal | I was once on one of the quiz channels quite often, those had lots of funny phobia questions |
| 20:15.44 | tvon[wk] | ...and back |
| 20:15.46 | Chestal | my favourite was 'fear of the chin' |
| 20:16.13 | tvon[wk] | my favorite word is defenestration |
| 20:16.14 | JBDiGriz | What's 'fear of the fist'? |
| 20:16.22 | Chestal | oh those encouragign warnngs whle compiling linux kernel |
| 20:16.38 | tvon[wk] | ~dict defenestration |
| 20:16.56 | bzgirl | prot-work: should kothdecks have flags? |
| 20:17.00 | tvon[wk] | never heard the first one |
| 20:17.02 | prot-work | bzgirl: naw |
| 20:17.17 | prot-work | bzgirl: i think the same config as that game earlier, but with -king |
| 20:17.25 | bzgirl | prot-work: your a purist |
| 20:17.48 | prot-work | it'd be neat to have only bad flags :) |
| 20:18.08 | prot-work | especially bounce :) |
| 20:18.12 | JBDiGriz | no, because noone would pick them up, a couple of st flags would be fun |
| 20:18.15 | prot-work | although 1.9 doesn't have bounce yet |
| 20:19.00 | tvon[wk] | bounce? |
| 20:19.37 | prot-work | tvon[wk]: was a bad flag that got implemented in 1.8 |
| 20:19.41 | prot-work | just kept bouncing :) |
| 20:19.46 | tvon[wk] | haha |
| 20:19.47 | tvon[wk] | nice |
| 20:19.56 | prot-work | was damned funny |
| 20:20.12 | prot-work | now if you could combine trigger happy with bounce...that would be a laughable game |
| 20:20.19 | tvon[wk] | hah |
| 20:20.51 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: you should change your nick to "Base Commander Ripper" |
| 20:21.04 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: heh |
| 20:21.06 | Chestal | at least some of the bad flags have their used, or could have in rare situations |
| 20:21.15 | Chestal | used -> uses |
| 20:21.28 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: someone knows old movies! |
| 20:21.32 | learnerAtWork | yea, like wideangle |
| 20:21.38 | Mayhem | maybe ctf with one team always right-turn only, the oter team left-turn only |
| 20:21.47 | Chestal | blindness ia also good, enhances my framerate |
| 20:21.47 | prot-work | i think WA is the only useful bad flag |
| 20:21.53 | prot-work | Chestal: hehe |
| 20:22.01 | bzgirl | a map with 400 obese flags would be fun fatty.bzw |
| 20:22.09 | Chestal | and obesity could be used in CTF to block a shot and protect the flag carrier :-) |
| 20:22.20 | Mayhem | build a wall of obese tanks.... |
| 20:22.25 | bzgirl | :) |
| 20:22.32 | learnerAtWork | hehe, that would be cool |
| 20:22.42 | tvon[wk] | hah, Ripper |
| 20:23.04 | tvon[wk] | Purity Of Essence |
| 20:23.08 | JBDiGriz | POE |
| 20:23.11 | tvon[wk] | haha |
| 20:23.24 | learnerAtWork | edgar allen? |
| 20:23.32 | JBDiGriz | Dr. Strangelove |
| 20:23.44 | sussudio | our precious bodily fluids |
| 20:24.04 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: i tend to know a lot of old-ish television and scifi type movies :) |
| 20:24.32 | JBDiGriz | Thanks, those were the movies and shows I watched while growing up! :P |
| 20:24.33 | learnerAtWork | lol, cap |
| 20:24.46 | prot-work | like...blakes7 =)\ |
| 20:25.56 | JBDiGriz | That one's not familiar |
| 20:26.04 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: probably for the best |
| 20:26.14 | tvon[wk] | heh |
| 20:26.23 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: When was it on? |
| 20:26.32 | sussudio | late 70s early 80s |
| 20:26.43 | prot-work | eh, i thought it was early 70s |
| 20:26.49 | sussudio | nope |
| 20:26.58 | sussudio | youre thinking space 1999 |
| 20:27.03 | prot-work | hehe |
| 20:27.04 | learnerAtWork | http://www.blakes-7.co.uk/whatisblakes7.shtml if it'll respond |
| 20:27.06 | prot-work | another quality show |
| 20:27.08 | Chestal | is it a good idea to dare and write a small file on my WIn2000 NTFS from Linux? |
| 20:27.14 | prot-work | Chestal: no |
| 20:27.21 | tvon[wk] | sissy |
| 20:27.30 | Chestal | prot-work: exactly how bad an idea is it? |
| 20:27.42 | Mayhem | write... NTFS... from Linux... say bye bye |
| 20:27.48 | learnerAtWork | go for it ches.. :) |
| 20:27.48 | tvon[wk] | heh |
| 20:27.49 | JBDiGriz | 1978-1981 is now oldish! :P |
| 20:27.51 | tvon[wk] | haha |
| 20:27.52 | learnerAtWork | take a chance.. :) |
| 20:27.57 | Chestal | the bad thing is when I don't, I have t oboot win2k, which takes forever |
| 20:28.02 | Mayhem | you have backups, right Ches? |
| 20:28.07 | Chestal | Mayhem: back-what? |
| 20:28.11 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 20:28.14 | Mayhem | :) |
| 20:28.29 | Chestal | heh, it#s only 512 bytes :-) |
| 20:28.43 | learnerAtWork | cap, have you seen this: http://www.blakes7.com/ |
| 20:28.55 | prot-work | space1999 has the virtue of being the only sci-fi show i've ever seen where sideburns and flared pants dominate |
| 20:29.03 | bzgirl | i dont need -pr in 1.9 right? |
| 20:29.08 | tvon[wk] | oh dear |
| 20:29.19 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: oh my.... |
| 20:29.48 | Chestal | hmm, actually remounting it rw doesn't work anyway :-| |
| 20:30.57 | learnerAtWork | I thought the ntfs stuff was finally stable in 2.4.x |
| 20:31.23 | learnerAtWork | shame |
| 20:31.31 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: that page makes me both happy and sad at the same time |
| 20:31.40 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 20:31.50 | Patlabor221 | bzgirl, no |
| 20:31.59 | learnerAtWork | sad because it can't be as good, happy because.. more! :) |
| 20:32.46 | prot-work | sad because its so rediculous |
| 20:32.50 | prot-work | and happy because...mroe! |
| 20:32.54 | Patlabor221 | cap, any word from the GPL violator? |
| 20:32.54 | bzgirl | ok deckskoth running |
| 20:33.06 | prot-work | Patlabor221: not yet |
| 20:33.12 | Patlabor221 | is it just a server change? or a client change too? |
| 20:33.26 | prot-work | Patlabor221: koth? both |
| 20:33.48 | Patlabor221 | then I'll build a weeeendows installer when I get home |
| 20:33.49 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: it better have the wibbly tellyport effect |
| 20:33.59 | learnerAtWork | hehehe, cap |
| 20:34.07 | bzgirl | the kings bullets are big white squares |
| 20:34.18 | prot-work | bzgirl: you didn't download the rgbs did you? :) |
| 20:34.19 | learnerAtWork | resources didn't load properly |
| 20:34.20 | Patlabor221 | somone is missing a texture |
| 20:34.41 | learnerAtWork | blame it on cap, for updating the patch.. :) |
| 20:34.48 | prot-work | hehe |
| 20:34.52 | bzgirl | prot-work: there were only 3 rgb files i downloaded them all and put them in data/ |
| 20:35.19 | prot-work | bzgirl: hm, is your pwd one layer above data |
| 20:35.30 | prot-work | as in runnin ./src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 20:35.47 | bzgirl | no |
| 20:35.55 | bzgirl | i need -directory then? |
| 20:36.01 | prot-work | yeah |
| 20:36.48 | bzgirl | ok good now |
| 20:37.33 | Patlabor221 | least your real work dosn't involve prefix math |
| 20:37.46 | learnerAtWork | ugh |
| 20:37.53 | learnerAtWork | postfix |
| 20:38.06 | Patlabor221 | implemented in pascal then auto converted to C |
| 20:38.32 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: whats wrong with prefix/postfix? |
| 20:38.42 | learnerAtWork | i love postfix |
| 20:38.47 | prot-work | Patlabor221: you could rip the expression stuff outta bzdb ;) |
| 20:38.49 | Mayhem | Methinks we need a 'send message to team' key |
| 20:38.51 | learnerAtWork | not prefix,though -- at least not for math |
| 20:38.53 | prot-work | i'll relicense it for you |
| 20:38.57 | learnerAtWork | I'm all over dc |
| 20:38.58 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 20:39.11 | Patlabor221 | cap, can't change the lan, 12 years of legacy code that uses the parser |
| 20:39.17 | Mayhem | the protocol can certainly handle it |
| 20:39.24 | prot-work | Patlabor221: ugh |
| 20:39.31 | Patlabor221 | tell me about it |
| 20:40.11 | Patlabor221 | ohh and everyone who uses this language isn't a programer. |
| 20:40.22 | Patlabor221 | has no clue about program design |
| 20:42.47 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: aha, apparently its a film :) |
| 20:43.07 | learnerAtWork | really? interesting.. |
| 20:43.28 | learnerAtWork | then at least you'll only be disappointed once.. :) |
| 20:44.33 | prot-work | hehe |
| 20:44.40 | prot-work | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/705922.stm |
| 20:44.51 | prot-work | its got avon, how can one be disappointed? ;) |
| 20:45.15 | prot-work | "charismatic anti-hero Avon" *cough cough* |
| 20:46.28 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 20:47.41 | learnerAtWork | "state-of-the-art" special effects is a mighty lofty claim.. |
| 20:47.52 | prot-work | hee |
| 20:50.49 | Chestal | waah, gecko crashes now all the time |
| 20:52.39 | JBDiGriz | We need to prune back the ideas in the wipi. What is the time frame for the next release? |
| 20:53.45 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: perhaps we should just change the "next release ideas" heading to "future ideas" |
| 20:53.58 | prot-work | and wait for people to commit to things |
| 20:54.15 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: I was going to start moving them to not feasible for the next release. |
| 20:54.37 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: i think not feasable should be for things rejected outright |
| 20:54.58 | prot-work | we might as well not include anything in the release that hasn't been committed to or deemed necessary |
| 20:55.38 | tvon[wk] | time to go home |
| 20:56.02 | tvon[wk] | prot-work: toss decks up in a few days |
| 20:56.03 | tvon[wk] | *g* |
| 20:56.03 | prot-work | perhaps change not feasable to 'rejected', create an 'ideas for next release' and rename the current ideas to 'future' |
| 20:56.16 | prot-work | tvon[wk]: looks like we'll be having a koth game on the decks soon |
| 20:56.26 | tvon[wk] | koth?: |
| 20:56.29 | tvon[wk] | OH |
| 20:56.32 | prot-work | king of the hill |
| 20:56.33 | tvon[wk] | havent tried that yet |
| 20:56.38 | prot-work | not surprising :) |
| 20:56.45 | JBDiGriz | I was just looking at the wipi, and trying to come up with that sort of scheme. I'll make those changes. |
| 20:56.49 | tvon[wk] | bleeding edge eh? |
| 20:57.07 | prot-work | well the old patch has been around for a long time |
| 20:57.14 | prot-work | but its actually going to be integrated shortly |
| 20:57.21 | tvon[wk] | nice |
| 20:57.45 | tvon[wk] | heh |
| 20:57.53 | tvon[wk] | prot-work: take it easy |
| 20:58.10 | prot-work | cya |
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| 20:58.40 | JBDiGriz | We don't need the ideas for next release. We can just move things into the next release for sure when people commit to something we want. |
| 20:58.50 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: :) |
| 20:59.05 | prot-work | wah, that was weird finding tvon on #plone |
| 20:59.11 | prot-work | haven't seen him in a -long- time |
| 20:59.45 | Nidhoggr | maybe I'll do a research project for swear words in multiple languages, and make an extended badwords list |
| 20:59.46 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:01.04 | Nidhoggr | customer wrote in because his email admin interface is in japanese for some wierd reason.. the funny thing is that there are no language options on the interface. |
| 21:01.52 | breadhat_ | hmm, G5 powermacs are out... :) |
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| 21:02.56 | Mayhem | NetworkProtocol wiki should now be up-to-date :) |
| 21:04.35 | MrApathyCream | howdy |
| 21:05.28 | Nidhoggr | hi MrAC |
| 21:05.50 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 21:06.52 | learnerAtWork | nid, ... I have a pretty big multilingual swear words list already |
| 21:07.04 | learnerAtWork | compiled it together for the new bad words filter I'm working on |
| 21:07.38 | learnerAtWork | had first pre-alpha test run last night |
| 21:08.28 | prot-work | Mayhem: yay |
| 21:11.12 | sussudio | learnerAtWork: does it contain either 'kloothommel' or 'reetkever'? |
| 21:11.17 | Nidhoggr | learner... I'd be interested |
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| 21:25.27 | learnerAtWork | Nidhoggr: I should be done with the new filter stuff soon enough -- I'll let you know when it's in cvs |
| 21:29.07 | Patlabor221 | are you puting this in 1_7? |
| 21:29.28 | Patlabor221 | cap, realy should I add a "hill" tag in the map? |
| 21:30.00 | Patlabor221 | or just a "special" tag that can be used however for any gametype? |
| 21:33.53 | MrApathyCream | new dev is in head, not v1_7 |
| 21:34.02 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:34.28 | learnerAtWork | who, pat? |
| 21:35.07 | learnerAtWork | I'm working off head, of course. |
| 21:35.50 | Patlabor221 | is nig gonna run a 1.9 server? |
| 21:36.25 | learnerAtWork | I tried last night (don't remember if you were there) -- and 1.9 gave all kinds of problems |
| 21:36.36 | breadhat_ | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2286651/detail.html |
| 21:37.07 | learnerAtWork | main one being it wouldn't allow more than one player to connect.. |
| 21:37.13 | Patlabor221 | 1.9 has problems for me too |
| 21:37.29 | Patlabor221 | something is funky with player IDs and UDP |
| 21:37.38 | Patlabor221 | I can only play when I am DMZ |
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| 21:40.50 | prot-work | Patlabor221: i'd say don't add anything to the map yet :) |
| 21:41.02 | prot-work | 'cept maybe drivethrough and shootthough |
| 21:41.13 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 21:42.26 | Patlabor221 | well sure |
| 21:42.34 | Mayhem | I can run two clients behind my nat to the public ducati server. |
| 21:42.39 | Patlabor221 | like the world object that screamers uses |
| 21:43.30 | learnerAtWork | friction, gravity, impulse -- all good things to go into a world object |
| 21:44.12 | Patlabor221 | I am talking about now on a per oject basis |
| 21:44.17 | Patlabor221 | I was going to add 3 things |
| 21:44.22 | Patlabor221 | the 2 flags |
| 21:44.31 | Patlabor221 | and one for an optional texture |
| 21:45.09 | Mayhem | You can always add more later, but taking things out is harder... |
| 21:46.03 | learnerAtWork | so do it right the first time! |
| 21:46.59 | Patlabor221 | well, I'm also changin how the map is sent, gonna send the rap map and let the client parse it |
| 21:47.07 | Patlabor221 | and it will ignore anything it dosn't know about. |
| 21:47.13 | Patlabor221 | then you can save the map that your playing |
| 21:47.36 | larsl_56k | It sends the map in text format? |
| 21:49.22 | Patlabor221 | it will yes |
| 21:49.26 | Patlabor221 | now it dosn't |
| 21:49.29 | Patlabor221 | it's all bin |
| 21:49.29 | breadhat_ | is map caching and checksum stuff still gonna work? |
| 21:49.34 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 21:49.35 | larsl_56k | That will be nice. |
| 21:49.40 | Patlabor221 | you can checksum anything |
| 21:49.48 | Patlabor221 | well I'll make sure it works |
| 21:49.55 | breadhat_ | cool |
| 21:50.21 | learnerAtWork | eww.. |
| 21:51.03 | Patlabor221 | the maps arn't that big so it won't be too bad |
| 21:51.53 | larsl_56k | You could always zip it before sending it. |
| 21:52.03 | Mayhem | compressed text would be good methinks |
| 21:52.13 | Patlabor221 | maps are like 32 k |
| 21:52.15 | Patlabor221 | or less |
| 21:52.22 | Patlabor221 | you realy think it would be needed? |
| 21:52.39 | Mayhem | why do they take so long to load then... several seconds for me usually |
| 21:52.54 | Patlabor221 | well that's cus they are processed "WIERD" now |
| 21:53.02 | breadhat_ | if it was cached, then they would only have to do it once |
| 21:53.05 | Patlabor221 | I will be making them unwierd |
| 21:53.13 | larsl_56k | I think most of it is for creating the connection. |
| 21:53.18 | Mayhem | currently, it is noticeable when you access a 'non-cached' map |
| 21:53.39 | Patlabor221 | it still will be no mater what |
| 21:53.45 | Patlabor221 | but I will test it and see |
| 21:54.17 | Patlabor221 | wheee lokit all the errors in koth :) |
| 21:54.27 | Mayhem | I must say though, whe WorldHash thing is very good :) |
| 21:54.37 | Patlabor221 | worldhash? |
| 21:55.12 | Patlabor221 | ohh cap, I figured I'd get the worldsize thing working properly too, since I'm changing how the map is sent. |
| 21:55.36 | Mayhem | hmm, why is GetWorld data sent in 262 byte chunks? |
| 21:55.47 | Patlabor221 | I have no clue |
| 21:56.52 | Mayhem | 256 bytes of world data at a time... hmm |
| 21:57.03 | Patlabor221 | seems un nessisary |
| 21:57.11 | Patlabor221 | that may be why it's so slow |
| 21:57.42 | Mayhem | might be... |
| 21:58.05 | Patlabor221 | I'll be workin on it tongiht |
| 21:58.22 | Patlabor221 | making the parser into a class that anyone can use an all that |
| 21:59.04 | breadhat_ | so the worldsize thing will now allow a person to make a larger/smaller map? |
| 21:59.07 | Mayhem | a 1694 byte world file took 7 packets! |
| 21:59.19 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:59.24 | breadhat_ | cool |
| 21:59.28 | Patlabor221 | and have all the spawn stuff work |
| 21:59.34 | breadhat_ | ah |
| 21:59.54 | breadhat_ | so I could have a GM only flag area |
| 21:59.55 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 22:00.07 | Patlabor221 | where did we say anyting about that? |
| 22:00.17 | breadhat_ | and have all the spawn stuff work |
| 22:00.25 | Patlabor221 | I mean spawn in the extended area |
| 22:00.28 | Patlabor221 | unlike now |
| 22:00.31 | breadhat_ | ah |
| 22:00.41 | Patlabor221 | flagzones is a difrent thing |
| 22:00.43 | bryjen | spawn as in tanks coming back to life |
| 22:00.53 | Patlabor221 | tanks, flags, whatnot |
| 22:00.54 | larsl_56k | Flag zones? |
| 22:01.11 | Patlabor221 | flag zones allowdd a map to say where flags could spawn |
| 22:01.24 | breadhat_ | there was a patch that allowed flags to spawn in certain areas |
| 22:01.35 | larsl_56k | Ah. |
| 22:01.49 | larsl_56k | Interesting. |
| 22:02.05 | Patlabor221 | it was in 1.8 |
| 22:02.52 | larsl_56k | A lot of things were, it seems. =) |
| 22:04.39 | Patlabor221 | I build a windows KOTH |
| 22:04.45 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G3/bzflag17g3_KOTH.exe |
| 22:04.53 | Patlabor221 | untested |
| 22:04.57 | breadhat_ | KOTH? |
| 22:04.59 | sussudio | ~koth |
| 22:05.13 | Mayhem | Well there you go, the GetWorld packet size *is* restricted to 256 bytes at a time. |
| 22:05.23 | larsl_56k | ~koth is King of the Hill |
| 22:05.24 | | larsl_56k: okay |
| 22:05.51 | Mayhem | Patlabor221: are you gonna keep calling it KOTH? |
| 22:06.07 | sussudio | kotp? |
| 22:06.09 | Patlabor221 | untill I get another name they like |
| 22:06.10 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:06.13 | breadhat_ | ooh, cool |
| 22:06.17 | breadhat_ | I will fireup a server |
| 22:06.17 | Patlabor221 | I say rabitHunt |
| 22:06.31 | sussudio | huntin wabbits? |
| 22:06.35 | Mayhem | or fox hunt... maybe just 'Hunt' |
| 22:06.36 | Patlabor221 | yay doug is gonna donate 100% of his CPU to it |
| 22:06.40 | bryjen | wabbit season |
| 22:06.46 | sussudio | pig season |
| 22:06.52 | breadhat_ | 100%? |
| 22:06.52 | Mayhem | duck season |
| 22:06.54 | Patlabor221 | well then it should have the huner patch applied and auto hunt that person |
| 22:07.00 | Patlabor221 | that would be cool |
| 22:07.06 | Mayhem | Patlabor221: Yes! |
| 22:07.11 | breadhat_ | hmm, auto hunting bots... |
| 22:07.30 | Patlabor221 | this is why they pay me the big bucks |
| 22:07.39 | breadhat_ | they pay you? ;) |
| 22:08.11 | Patlabor221 | well sure |
| 22:08.59 | breadhat_ | what needs to be enabled for KOTH? |
| 22:09.10 | Patlabor221 | I live goat |
| 22:09.23 | bzgirl | 2 penguins |
| 22:09.24 | breadhat_ | you dont say... |
| 22:09.25 | bryjen | ^^ Are you now... |
| 22:09.34 | Patlabor221 | and Martha Stewert |
| 22:10.43 | breadhat_ | all rouge? |
| 22:11.30 | Patlabor221 | that game type shold disable geno, and team kills penaltys |
| 22:11.49 | larsl_56k | Or not allow teams. |
| 22:12.01 | Patlabor221 | well it woudl be cool to have a color choice |
| 22:12.11 | breadhat_ | k |
| 22:12.13 | Patlabor221 | since it is the only variation you can do now |
| 22:12.25 | bryjen | Koth sounds like one of those big-guys-with-huge-swords movies.... Kull, Conan... |
| 22:12.30 | bzgirl | learnerAtWork: poke |
| 22:12.39 | Patlabor221 | KOTH is the name of a rouge AI |
| 22:12.52 | Patlabor221 | HOTH, Tycho, Durandal, and Lela |
| 22:12.53 | breadhat_ | I thought it was HAL |
| 22:13.04 | Patlabor221 | pfffft hal was a calculator |
| 22:13.13 | larsl_56k | He was insane too. |
| 22:13.26 | breadhat_ | oh. |
| 22:13.28 | Patlabor221 | these were rampant, much worse :) |
| 22:13.54 | Patlabor221 | Cortana will go rampant at some point too |
| 22:14.03 | bryjen | ~dict rampant |
| 22:14.22 | larsl_56k | Ah, on the hind leg. |
| 22:14.38 | breadhat_ | does AI have a hindleg? |
| 22:15.07 | Patlabor221 | depends on its avatar |
| 22:15.12 | breadhat_ | hmm |
| 22:15.21 | breadhat_ | bad argument "-k" |
| 22:15.45 | breadhat_ | untested indeed :) |
| 22:15.53 | Patlabor221 | I'm at work |
| 22:15.55 | Patlabor221 | no runny at work |
| 22:15.59 | breadhat_ | ah |
| 22:16.02 | Patlabor221 | game at work bad |
| 22:16.26 | Patlabor221 | and I'm in the middle of a full bicat build |
| 22:16.28 | breadhat_ | but they allow you to code games |
| 22:16.44 | breadhat_ | cool work :) |
| 22:17.01 | breadhat_ | so what else would the -k be? |
| 22:17.20 | breadhat_ | aha, -king seems to work |
| 22:17.28 | breadhat_ | heck.no-ip.com to test |
| 22:17.51 | breadhat_ | yehaw, and it blows apart into little pieces |
| 22:18.55 | bryjen | bits even ;) |
| 22:19.17 | bzgirl | doug what port |
| 22:20.21 | breadhat_ | 5155 |
| 22:20.27 | breadhat_ | but it crashes |
| 22:20.33 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-118-173.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:20.52 | breadhat_ | the first time something trys to access it, even if its a lookup, it barfs |
| 22:21.22 | bzgirl | breadhat_: you went nr as soon as you joined mine |
| 22:21.36 | breadhat_ | yea, spiff was the same |
| 22:21.44 | breadhat_ | and I couldnt see ya |
| 22:22.12 | bryjen | different game style requires updated server & client, no? |
| 22:22.16 | breadhat_ | crashed |
| 22:22.16 | bzgirl | you couldnt see me, cos of the grey color of my nr tank matches the radar color |
| 22:22.18 | Mayhem | bzgirl: can you join yours as observer? mine crashed immediately when I tried |
| 22:22.28 | breadhat_ | ah, hah |
| 22:22.30 | bzgirl | ok.. |
| 22:22.42 | breadhat_ | server just barfed again |
| 22:22.51 | Mayhem | is prot-work still around? I want to send him a 1-line patch :) |
| 22:23.08 | Patlabor221 | I will debug it at home |
| 22:23.21 | bryjen | Patlabor221: need updated client for KOTH ? |
| 22:23.23 | Patlabor221 | in an hour and a half |
| 22:23.31 | Patlabor221 | that's what they tell me |
| 22:23.51 | bzgirl | Mayhem: i can join as observer |
| 22:24.01 | Mayhem | ok, don't worry bout it. |
| 22:24.40 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@balt-209-163-100-127.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 22:25.33 | *** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 22:25.39 | BZSpiff | Hey all. :-) |
| 22:26.05 | bzgirl | spiff, i couldnt see you when observing |
| 22:26.15 | BZSpiff | That is verrrrrrrry odd. |
| 22:26.30 | bzgirl | breadhat_: i could see bullets though, but no tank |
| 22:27.13 | BZSpiff | I could see the tanks.... but they kept jumping in really odd ways.. with no "nr bubble" around them. |
| 22:27.27 | breadhat_ | yea, and I could see spiff sorta appear on radar sometimes |
| 22:27.33 | breadhat_ | but it would turn NR |
| 22:27.57 | breadhat_ | bzflag hasnt been this messed up since 1.8 :P |
| 22:27.59 | BZSpiff | Nr was going off and on like ten times in less than a minute. |
| 22:28.15 | Patlabor221 | I go NR all the time in 1.9 |
| 22:28.44 | BZSpiff | What about on the 1.9 ducati server? |
| 22:28.48 | BZSpiff | Do we go NR there? |
| 22:28.54 | BZSpiff | <<< Hasn't tried |
| 22:29.00 | breadhat_ | I dont |
| 22:29.00 | Patlabor221 | then try |
| 22:29.02 | bzgirl | breadhat_: BZSpiff try chestals server |
| 22:29.07 | JBDiGriz | DTR and I were trying ducati 1.9 last night, we went nr |
| 22:29.07 | BZSpiff | Let's do that. |
| 22:29.41 | Nidhoggr | I can also put up a 1.9 server somewhere. secretplace or dragon.org |
| 22:29.43 | JBDiGriz | It was odd, I would see him as nr, and he would see me as nr, he saw an explosion when i shot myself. |
| 22:31.44 | Nidhoggr | someone using a speed hack on secretplace. :( I just banned them. |
| 22:32.06 | JBDiGriz | Nidhoggr: what was the callsign? |
| 22:32.21 | Nidhoggr | it was random jibberish |
| 22:32.27 | Nidhoggr | ,l;:.@;ki0fuyohgyhiukjujmn90eq5 |
| 22:32.31 | BZSpiff | Nobody is going NR on ducati..... |
| 22:32.35 | Patlabor221 | oooo what a good name "random jibberis" |
| 22:32.37 | BZSpiff | Seems that the KOTH thing is the problem. |
| 22:33.18 | Nidhoggr | don't forget the h at the end, pat. |
| 22:33.19 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 22:33.37 | Patlabor221 | well yea |
| 22:33.38 | JBDiGriz | someone told him to get the 'h' out of there! |
| 22:33.45 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha |
| 22:33.47 | Patlabor221 | I seem to be missing end chars today |
| 22:33.59 | JBDiGriz | Look in the mirror. |
| 22:34.03 | bryjen | pseudorandom jibberish is easier to generate ;) |
| 22:34.21 | Patlabor221 | perlin jibberish |
| 22:36.11 | JBDiGriz | We need Cap'n back to handle the spelling around here again! |
| 22:36.38 | Nidhoggr | I'm a good speller, but not much of a complainer about bad spelling. |
| 22:36.54 | Nidhoggr | it'd be all I'd do in here if I was. ;) |
| 22:37.22 | BZSpiff | Every time I close the client...... I get this message........ |
| 22:37.26 | BZSpiff | Bzflag has caused an error in BZFLAG.EXE. |
| 22:37.26 | BZSpiff | Bzflag will now close. |
| 22:37.41 | BZSpiff | If you continue to experience problems, |
| 22:37.41 | BZSpiff | try restarting your computer. |
| 22:37.52 | Nidhoggr | that sounds not-so-cool. |
| 22:37.55 | bzgirl | thats a helpfull error |
| 22:38.24 | breadhat_ | it tells you alot on what happened |
| 22:38.25 | breadhat_ | :) |
| 22:39.32 | bzgirl | if i rebui the server with debug enabled will it help any? |
| 22:39.53 | Mayhem | bzgirl: only if the server crashes... |
| 22:40.15 | Mayhem | bzgirl: did you give it any -d's on the command line? |
| 22:40.19 | bzgirl | Mayhem: but the same clients dont crash on Chestals server |
| 22:40.31 | bzgirl | Mayhem: oh i did, lemm look |
| 22:41.25 | bzgirl | Player c3po [3] on 7 removed: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 22:41.57 | Mayhem | sounds like something the client did. |
| 22:42.01 | bzgirl | thats about the only weird stuff i see |
| 22:42.26 | bzgirl | rest looks normal to me, same as any logs previously |
| 22:42.27 | Mayhem | you are all going nr, is that the problem? |
| 22:43.04 | Patlabor221 | something is up with UDP |
| 22:43.14 | Mayhem | yes, pings not working for one |
| 22:43.17 | Patlabor221 | the other day I was showind up as cap when I sent messages |
| 22:43.33 | Mayhem | it is getting confused... |
| 22:43.48 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: pings aren't UDP, they're ICMP |
| 22:43.49 | Patlabor221 | bzgirl the code you sent me was from that snapshot or from CVS? |
| 22:44.20 | bzgirl | Patlabor221: snapshot |
| 22:44.25 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 22:44.28 | Mayhem | JBDiGriz: not in bz they aren't... |
| 22:44.53 | Mayhem | actually, ignore me, the ping replies are TCP ifaict |
| 22:45.21 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: I'm still wandering the network protocol document for those |
| 22:45.30 | bzgirl | maybe its my router, i should really check if i enabled udp |
| 22:45.34 | Mayhem | JBDiGriz: its not in there, I should add them :) |
| 22:46.08 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: Definitely, I'm looking at enet and the network protocol |
| 22:46.55 | Mayhem | JBDiGriz: I've been bringing the Protocol wiki uptodate |
| 22:46.56 | bzgirl | Mayhem: can you rejoin, i ran the server without the -king |
| 22:47.05 | Mayhem | ok... |
| 22:47.30 | bzgirl | Mayhem: i want to see maybe if its the patch |
| 22:47.48 | bzgirl | thats weird |
| 22:47.48 | Mayhem | I don't have a patched client, and mine crashes on connect |
| 22:48.15 | bzgirl | even without the -king, it goes into koth mode |
| 22:48.26 | BZSpiff | I'll come if you need me bzg. :) |
| 22:48.31 | bzgirl | i joined and im yellow then suddenly turned white |
| 22:48.35 | BZSpiff | *wasn't really watching the convo* Hehe. |
| 22:48.41 | Patlabor221 | we need some way to do BZ regresion tests |
| 22:48.51 | bzgirl | spiff yeah join |
| 22:48.58 | BZSpiff | Okies. I'll be right there. :-) |
| 22:50.41 | BZSpiff | Server forced a disconnect....... and then errors connecting. |
| 22:51.21 | bzgirl | BZSpiff: i guess the patch is the problem |
| 22:51.59 | BZSpiff | Pry so. :( |
| 22:53.15 | Patlabor221 | one more hour and I will debug |
| 22:53.27 | Patlabor221 | probalby just something uninited |
| 22:54.35 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-22-12.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 22:56.38 | BZSpiff | Well...... Spiffy is off for a bit. :-) |
| 22:56.44 | BZSpiff | Nice seein' ya all. |
| 22:56.53 | BZSpiff | L8taz. :-) |
| 23:04.18 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper_ (~daenzer@dclient80-218-118-173.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:13.21 | CIA | commit by atupone: /usr/include already in system path -deleted- break RH7.3 cf.sourceforge.net |
| 23:15.41 | creeperz | What...the...hell? |
| 23:15.50 | creeperz | <apt> sussudio wants you to know: rumour has it, away is We don't care if you're 'afk', 'having a shower' or 'doing my wife'. If we really want to know, we'll /whois you. so please disable any public messages your client sends when you go /away or come back, or there are almost 600 people here. If everyone did something annoying, we'd never get any conversation in. |
| 23:16.32 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 23:16.41 | Patlabor221 | apt likes you |
| 23:16.49 | creeperz | What is apt? |
| 23:16.53 | Patlabor221 | apt is a bot |
| 23:16.54 | creeperz | I know it's a bot |
| 23:17.04 | creeperz | --- [apt] (apt@not.leet.org) : I'm a bot. bk@lasthop.ca |
| 23:17.04 | creeperz | --- [apt] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ |
| 23:17.04 | creeperz | --- apt :is an identified user |
| 23:17.04 | creeperz | --- [apt] idle 00:01:20, signon: Mon Jun 23 15:08:32 |
| 23:17.04 | creeperz | --- [apt] End of WHOIS list. |
| 23:17.16 | creeperz | sussudio's bot? |
| 23:17.23 | Patlabor221 | ok we know, you don't have to show us, that's his point |
| 23:17.25 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 23:17.47 | creeperz | :-) |
| 23:17.49 | creeperz | <apt> sussudio wants you to know: [flood] spewing loads of output into a channel; *very* rude in most channels and often grounds for banning. If you want to show a lot of output to someone, ask them to join you in #flood and paste the output there. |
| 23:18.17 | creeperz | That's probally the most annoying bot EVER |
| 23:18.32 | Patlabor221 | at least it's not in a channel |
| 23:18.39 | creeperz | Yea |
| 23:18.47 | Patlabor221 | unlike what you are doing |
| 23:18.58 | creeperz | What am I doing? |
| 23:19.06 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you should /msg susudio and ask |
| 23:19.12 | Patlabor221 | you are pasting spew |
| 23:19.27 | creeperz | Heh |
| 23:22.41 | Mayhem | Joy. |
| 23:23.13 | Nidhoggr | sounds like someone needs a spanking |
| 23:23.22 | Mayhem | what should I do with this one-line patch I've got sitting here? |
| 23:23.39 | Nidhoggr | good question |
| 23:23.39 | Mayhem | email it to cap so he can look at it? |
| 23:24.02 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: what does it do? |
| 23:24.21 | Mayhem | JBDiGriz: changes the size of the data chunks in MsgGetWorld packets |
| 23:24.38 | Mayhem | sends 1024 bytes at a time instead of 256 |
| 23:25.15 | JBDiGriz | Why not post it in the patches on sourceforge? It's easy enough to apply and it will be saved in a known area. |
| 23:25.26 | *** part/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.131.244) |
| 23:25.47 | Mayhem | Seems a bit pointless for such a little patch for the dev version... |
| 23:26.31 | JBDiGriz | Can you check it in? |
| 23:26.38 | Mayhem | no... |
| 23:26.43 | Mayhem | not a developer :) |
| 23:27.02 | Mayhem | you want it? |
| 23:27.06 | Patlabor221 | I'm gonna chage it all around anyway |
| 23:27.24 | JBDiGriz | It sounds like we should get you on the list. Do you want it Pat, otherwise I can handle it. |
| 23:27.43 | Patlabor221 | you just changed the constant right? |
| 23:27.56 | Nidhoggr | hrm.. bad word filter needs to match strings in words |
| 23:28.17 | Mayhem | At this point I'd prefer someone checks what I do :) |
| 23:28.23 | Mayhem | prepare for flood... |
| 23:28.28 | Patlabor221 | noooo |
| 23:28.29 | Patlabor221 | don't |
| 23:28.31 | JBDiGriz | Nidhoggr: it does, I have to ride my jack*** to the ****fights while eating ****aake mushrooms. |
| 23:28.32 | Patlabor221 | PM it |
| 23:28.35 | Mayhem | 2 lines.... |
| 23:28.40 | Patlabor221 | ohh pffft |
| 23:28.44 | Mayhem | - int size = 256, left = worldDatabaseSize - ptr; |
| 23:28.45 | Mayhem | + int size = MaxPacketLen - 6, left = worldDatabaseSize - ptr; |
| 23:28.46 | Patlabor221 | have at it |
| 23:28.59 | Nidhoggr | ah, cool. for a while it didn't. |
| 23:29.01 | Patlabor221 | oooo let me guess what you changed |
| 23:29.13 | Mayhem | gotta love diffs :) |
| 23:29.24 | Mayhem | sending you the whole thing in a PM... |
| 23:29.36 | Patlabor221 | if that's all you changed, don't worry bout it |
| 23:29.40 | Patlabor221 | I can make the same change |
| 23:29.47 | Mayhem | you can find it? |
| 23:29.52 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
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| 23:30.55 | Patlabor221 | well that was wierd |
| 23:31.12 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 23:31.34 | Patlabor221 | ooo nickserver went |
| 23:32.00 | Patlabor221 | well I'm changing how the server stores it's map, so I will be hiting all that |
| 23:33.00 | Mayhem | ok, I'll leave you people to it, I'm off ta bed. |
| 23:34.28 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 23:35.30 | Patlabor221 | did the net just totaly hickup? |
| 23:36.31 | Nidhoggr | hrm. why would cell be joining from a comcast ip? |
| 23:36.43 | Patlabor221 | proxy |
| 23:36.46 | Patlabor221 | and where? |
| 23:36.50 | Nidhoggr | secretplace |
| 23:36.52 | Patlabor221 | or a poser |
| 23:36.56 | Nidhoggr | ~secretplace |
| 23:37.01 | Nidhoggr | could be |
| 23:38.00 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 23:38.17 | Patlabor221 | some fun names you got there |
| 23:38.55 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 23:39.12 | JBDiGriz | Does cell actually play, or just annoy the IRC? |
| 23:39.19 | Patlabor221 | he cheats |
| 23:39.22 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 23:39.27 | Patlabor221 | when he gets annoyed that's about it |
| 23:39.42 | Patlabor221 | there are a lot of DBZ fans out there so it could NOT be him |
| 23:41.26 | Patlabor221 | I can't see what they like in that show ether |
| 23:41.48 | Nidhoggr | ugh.. that join/quit/join/quit thing is annoying... if you keep getting killed, it means you need more practice, not a zero score |
| 23:44.08 | Nidhoggr | hrm |
| 23:44.28 | stibnite | JBDiGriz: he is a protocol-independent annoyance |
| 23:44.30 | stibnite | ;P |
