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| 00:46.15 | doughecka | ~x it en ("Uscita dal client") |
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| 01:06.17 | doughecka | ~x en it hello Tupone, whats up |
| 01:06.35 | Tupone | What? |
| 01:06.51 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:07.08 | Tupone | I heve been looking at CVS fixes .... |
| 01:07.19 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:07.27 | doughecka | ~whois captain_proton |
| 01:07.29 | doughecka | bah |
| 01:07.45 | doughecka | captain_proton aint here, and TimRiker is out |
| 01:08.23 | Tupone | OK! They know better. I'll send a message to one of them |
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| 01:59.04 | doughecka | greetings |
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| 02:30.05 | doughecka | greetings |
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| 02:56.15 | CIA | commit by timriker: MsgClientVersion - ugh |
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| 02:59.45 | TimRiker | ugh... version change broke the build... |
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| 03:11.01 | Skipp | do u guys know where i could go to find the right bzflag video driver, izto said it was on the bzflag.org page, but he wasn't sure? |
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| 03:20.32 | TimRiker | video drivers would be at the site for whoever makes you card. look for ones that support opengl |
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| 03:41.08 | CIA | commit by timriker: fix broken version hacking |
| 03:41.26 | TimRiker | fixed. nite |
| 03:42.03 | CIA | commit by timriker: MsgClientVersion - ugh |
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| 03:58.31 | Skipp | i am having problems with bzflag |
| 03:59.01 | Skipp | every 10-20 min or so, my computer locks up and freezes, the only thing i can do is pull the power cord |
| 03:59.07 | Skipp | what could be wrong? |
| 03:59.40 | Skipp | i just played a flight simulator and had no problems with that, so i don't think it is my video card |
| 04:06.07 | Skipp | about when i had lighting turned on in bzflag was when the problem started, would that possibly be it? |
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| 05:03.53 | Noodleman | f00m |
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| 05:07.11 | HEINOLA | hello all |
| 05:07.11 | Noodleman | m00f |
| 05:07.16 | Noodleman | f00m |
| 05:07.22 | Noodleman | f0m0 |
| 05:07.28 | Noodleman | mf00 |
| 05:07.34 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 05:08.24 | HEINOLA | how offen does stats site update server info ? |
| 05:08.37 | Noodleman | http://stats.bzflag.org? |
| 05:08.44 | HEINOLA | yep |
| 05:08.46 | Noodleman | is updates every 3 minutes |
| 05:08.47 | HEINOLA | 5 min |
| 05:08.57 | Noodleman | i've got to fix that page :-) |
| 05:09.12 | Noodleman | i should know, i run it ;-) |
| 05:09.12 | HEINOLA | ok ty seeing if my dns is working lol |
| 05:09.18 | HEINOLA | lol |
| 05:09.42 | Noodleman | what was that? |
| 05:10.09 | HEINOLA | ttl 128 should work ? |
| 05:10.18 | Noodleman | that's plenty |
| 05:10.24 | HEINOLA | or should i go for the world lol |
| 05:10.28 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 05:10.34 | Noodleman | "He who throws rock at sumo wrestler must run fast" |
| 05:11.47 | HEINOLA | i was wondering if someone could test my dns for me :) |
| 05:12.12 | Noodleman | HEINOLA: don't stop at the world, go for the moon |
| 05:12.20 | Noodleman | shoot for the stars even :-) |
| 05:12.34 | HEINOLA | delta quadrant |
| 05:12.36 | HEINOLA | maby |
| 05:13.08 | HEINOLA | that is the borg dont mind |
| 05:13.11 | Noodleman | no, gamma quadrant, sector 12 is best |
| 05:13.29 | HEINOLA | risha yum yum |
| 05:13.44 | Noodleman | buzz lightyear keeps everything under control there |
| 05:13.49 | HEINOLA | lol |
| 05:14.14 | Noodleman | i am a mucho mega fan of pixar, fyi |
| 05:14.21 | Noodleman | they need to make more movies |
| 05:14.22 | HEINOLA | b5 |
| 05:14.34 | HEINOLA | here |
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| 05:15.02 | Noodleman | m00f |
| 05:15.33 | HEINOLA | stillnot on server list |
| 05:15.44 | HEINOLA | on sec |
| 05:15.44 | Noodleman | what is the server? |
| 05:16.00 | HEINOLA | hpc-bzflag.ods.org |
| 05:16.31 | Noodleman | is it on the list in bz itself? |
| 05:16.45 | HEINOLA | ill chack again quick |
| 05:17.11 | Noodleman | it doesn't appear so |
| 05:17.15 | HEINOLA | nope |
| 05:17.28 | Noodleman | i can resolve that hostname, either |
| 05:17.34 | Noodleman | can't, sorry |
| 05:17.39 | HEINOLA | :( |
| 05:23.21 | HEINOLA | try heinola.ods.org |
| 05:23.27 | HEINOLA | :) |
| 05:24.21 | HEINOLA | i seen a flicker of life |
| 05:27.28 | HEINOLA | cool im running dns prolems with other domain |
| 05:28.15 | Noodleman | HEINOLA: it shows up in the server list :-) |
| 05:28.18 | Noodleman | w00h00 |
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| 06:02.11 | captain_proton | teehee |
| 06:02.18 | captain_proton | crs' name was in the credits for finding nemo =) |
| 06:02.27 | Noodleman | whatcha teeheein' about? |
| 06:02.43 | Noodleman | chris shoeneman? (sp?) |
| 06:02.54 | captain_proton | yep |
| 06:03.04 | Noodleman | which section? |
| 06:03.10 | captain_proton | "studio tools" |
| 06:03.15 | captain_proton | since thats what he does |
| 06:03.26 | Noodleman | ah, i'll have to take extra notice next time i see it |
| 06:03.36 | captain_proton | kinda nifty to see it there |
| 06:03.48 | captain_proton | i still wish i had his job though :) |
| 06:03.52 | Noodleman | i plan on snagging a job as a sysadmin at pixar in a few years :-) |
| 06:04.31 | Noodleman | gotta go through college and rack up a bit of experience first |
| 06:05.00 | Noodleman | i'd like to do a voice |
| 06:05.10 | Noodleman | i love doing characterizations |
| 06:06.48 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:06.55 | captain_proton | ellen degeneres' character was great :) |
| 06:07.01 | Noodleman | yes, indeed |
| 06:07.07 | Noodleman | i liked her best |
| 06:07.38 | captain_proton | eh, i'm a sysadmin now, its not all that great |
| 06:07.44 | Noodleman | my favorite supporting character was that french shrimp |
| 06:07.45 | captain_proton | better to be a hacker :) |
| 06:08.18 | Noodleman | i thrive on being frustrated, i think i'm cut out for sysadmining :-) |
| 06:25.50 | sussudio | spiffhuntin on ducati 5156, anyone? |
| 06:25.53 | sussudio | ~ducati6 |
| 06:35.06 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:35.07 | captain_proton | odd |
| 06:35.22 | captain_proton | 'make dist' produces a package that doesn't include the dsp/dsw's |
| 06:58.23 | captain_proton | humm, deleted by tim |
| 08:36.20 | captain_proton | ibot: message for TimRiker you're "automake cleanup" messed up 'make dist' - it now longer includes certain necessary things in the dist, working on fixing... |
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| 08:41.58 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.29 | Chestal | tag |
| 09:23.04 | sussudio | people really hate you when you have Geno |
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| 11:47.01 | sussudio | does anyone know why i'm seeing half tanks? |
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| 12:23.55 | bzgirl | is the new server options like register, groups etc, documented somewhere? i built the man pages in the current cvs, but dont see that stuff |
| 12:25.10 | Chestal | bzg: not yet in, haven't you read my mail? :-) |
| 12:26.00 | sussudio | already only has 1 l. |
| 12:26.18 | bzgirl | Chestal: ahh ok :) |
| 12:26.18 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.11 | sussudio | why does andy dick have a career? |
| 12:28.30 | bzgirl | whos he? |
| 12:28.38 | sussudio | an annoying bastard |
| 12:28.54 | sussudio | see also pauly shore, carrot top, etc |
| 12:29.02 | bzgirl | eww |
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| 13:11.41 | doughecka | greetings |
| 13:14.32 | bzgirl | hi doug |
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| 13:15.38 | doughecka | greetings |
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| 13:15.48 | Mayhem | hi all |
| 13:16.21 | [dmp] | Hi Mayhem |
| 13:17.14 | CIA | atupone changed Patches 750883 (Missing DirectX files): Category->'BZFlag' |
| 13:19.38 | Mayhem | Hmm, sometimes pressing . in game gives some garbage characters instead of the last player I talked to. Is this a known bug? |
| 13:27.36 | [dmp] | It think it happens, when you are chatting with somebody and then they leave (or rejoin) .. experienced it just today when playing before. |
| 13:27.59 | [dmp] | But I have no idea if its known or not. |
| 13:37.38 | Mayhem | I had it just before, can't seem to recreate it. Have heard someone mention it before, but its not in the bug tracker |
| 13:38.43 | Mayhem | seems when someone leaves the player object stays around for a little while, then it goes blank. |
| 13:38.54 | Mayhem | maybe its the rejoin that makes it corrupt... |
| 13:39.10 | Mayhem | anyone free to do some testing with me? |
| 13:42.49 | Tupone | captain_proton: Are you there? |
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| 14:04.03 | CIA | commit by chestal: out of sight - out of mind, or: forget about nemesis and recipient that are no more |
| 14:06.47 | [dmp] | :) |
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| 15:17.11 | larsl | Hm, is bzflag supposed to compile with -mcpu=i486 even when I give the option --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu to configure? |
| 15:18.58 | Tupone | larsl: Yes. I internally use a patch to compile with athlon or i686. |
| 15:19.53 | Tupone | larsl: I can release it. Just had to work a few |
| 15:20.01 | Tupone | larsl: to clean it |
| 15:21.35 | larsl | Shouldn't it optimize for the host_cpu? |
| 15:22.17 | Tupone | larsl: mcpu=i486 is put on configure.in. |
| 15:23.28 | Tupone | larsl: Problem is: when releasing code, should we want generate for the machine we build on or for all? |
| 15:23.55 | larsl | Just specify --host=i486-pc-linux-gnu when building packages. =) |
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| 15:25.31 | Tupone | larsl: if you accept this, I mean releasing binary with special configuration, it's even easier than the way I do on my own |
| 15:26.10 | larsl | Personally I think that binaries should be optimized for the system they're built on, unless another platform is explicitly specified. |
| 15:26.17 | larsl | But I'm not the maintainer. =) |
| 15:26.26 | Tupone | Neither I! |
| 15:26.46 | Tupone | We should ask Tim |
| 15:27.16 | Tupone | I have left the same option they were on the old Makefiles ... |
| 15:27.39 | Tupone | So You know where that i486 comes from |
| 15:28.09 | larsl | If I want to build my own bzflag optimized for athlon-xp, are there any other options that should be added (except changing -mcpu to athlon-xp)? |
| 15:29.08 | Tupone | You mean during compilation? I remember just that one. |
| 15:30.09 | larsl | The files in configs/ aren't used with the autotools build system, right? |
| 15:30.40 | Tupone | They are old files. I have to ask to remove them. Just as now they remove Makefile |
| 15:31.06 | Tupone | So don't bother with them. |
| 15:31.08 | larsl | Yes, I noticed. |
| 15:31.37 | larsl | I really like the new build system. Thanks you. =) |
| 15:31.46 | larsl | s/Thanks/Thank/ |
| 15:32.06 | Tupone | It's something that I learn at job. Then I try to apply here. |
| 15:32.40 | Tupone | Have you got a Joystick? |
| 15:33.15 | larsl | No. |
| 15:34.26 | Tupone | I really not able to play without it. If you get one, I have put patch for it. On my own I changed fot this new build system |
| 15:35.44 | Tupone | I wanted to say that the old patch are to be reintegrated in this system |
| 15:36.33 | Tupone | What kind of irc client yu have? |
| 15:37.00 | larsl | XChat 2.0.0 |
| 15:37.23 | Tupone | And how you write things like *larsl nods ??? |
| 15:38.01 | larsl | If you start a line with /me it will be replaced with your nickname and written like an "action". |
| 15:38.24 | larsl | I don't think it has anything to do with the client. |
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| 16:04.44 | Secret_Hamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.59 | Secret_Hamster | makes modelling them so much easier |
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| 16:48.39 | bzgirl | what does one big long beeeeeeep mean when windows 98 loads? im trying to put a new video card in my roomates computer and now it beeps when it sees the win98 splashscreen |
| 16:48.57 | patlabor221 | that's odd |
| 16:49.05 | patlabor221 | probably a problem loading the drivers |
| 16:49.34 | patlabor221 | put in the old card, go to the device mananger, and remove the old driver ( just delete it from the list ) |
| 16:49.38 | patlabor221 | then shut down |
| 16:49.43 | patlabor221 | replace cards and launch |
| 16:49.47 | patlabor221 | that shold force it to rescan |
| 16:49.52 | bzgirl | patlabor221: its a new appollo 64mb nv4 card, and i removed the old card from the DM first |
| 16:50.10 | bzgirl | patlabor221: i will try that aain i guess |
| 16:50.20 | david_v | ugh, i don't know if that matters but i had problems with an apollo card once upon a time |
| 16:50.22 | patlabor221 | well also check the bios and make sure plug and play is turned on |
| 16:50.30 | david_v | only worked partially then the 3D gave me a blank screen |
| 16:50.58 | bzgirl | i think bios sees it, it shows the little nvidia blurb while in post |
| 16:51.23 | patlabor221 | well it allways will do that |
| 16:51.32 | bzgirl | oh |
| 16:51.34 | patlabor221 | but if PNP isn't on in the bios the OS won't auto see it |
| 16:52.06 | bzgirl | the old card was pci ATI 8mb, this is AGP, maybe pnp is the problem |
| 16:53.19 | patlabor221 | also if the bios has a setting for "primary display" make sure it's set to AGP |
| 16:53.32 | bzgirl | oh ok... |
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| 17:06.22 | JBDiGriz | I just checked out the latest CVS, and had problems building the MacOS X version. Are we in a transition state? |
| 17:06.45 | patlabor221 | we switched to autoconf/automake |
| 17:07.01 | larsl | patlabor221: Should the configs/* files be removed too? |
| 17:07.22 | JBDiGriz | I built with autoconf/automake last week, but today it's complaining about socklen_t |
| 17:07.25 | patlabor221 | I thought Tim was working on that |
| 17:07.48 | patlabor221 | ahhh yeah cap had to change that for solaris |
| 17:07.57 | patlabor221 | #def it for mac as an int |
| 17:08.04 | patlabor221 | tht's what I had to do for windows |
| 17:08.16 | JBDiGriz | I'll go through it for MacOS, it's defined in /usr/include/sys/socket.h |
| 17:09.40 | JBDiGriz | Actually, it's defined as _BSD_SOCKLEN_T which doesn't seem to be defined. I'll investigate further. Thanks! |
| 17:09.49 | patlabor221 | it's an int |
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| 17:14.38 | doughecka | greetings |
| 17:15.02 | JBDiGriz | It turns out that bzfrelay.c doesn't include config.h. That's where socklen_t is defined to be an int. |
| 17:15.26 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 17:15.58 | bzgirl | patlabor221: did you post some docs on these new server features? register, groups etc? |
| 17:16.56 | patlabor221 | I should shouldnt I |
| 17:17.16 | patlabor221 | I wrote up some but I would like someome to proofread it and make it make sense |
| 17:17.21 | bzgirl | well, its just i dont know how to set my server up to use them :) |
| 17:17.33 | bzgirl | i can read them if you like |
| 17:17.53 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/BZAdminCommands.txt |
| 17:17.59 | bzgirl | if they make sense to me, then they will make sense to anyone :) |
| 17:19.23 | Tupone | JBDiGriz: I put the include "config.h" on common.h. Does bzfrelay include common.h? |
| 17:22.12 | Tupone | JBDiGriz: No it doesn't! Have to fix! |
| 17:24.01 | larsl | Should it? |
| 17:24.11 | larsl | Does it really need all the other stuff in common.h? |
| 17:24.18 | patlabor221 | bzgirl there is actualy 1 more command that needs to go in there /reload |
| 17:24.35 | Tupone | I just include config.h |
| 17:24.37 | patlabor221 | it forces the server to reload all it's databases, if they have been changed outside of the app. |
| 17:24.40 | larsl | Ah. =) |
| 17:25.50 | bzgirl | patlabor221: yeah i heard Ches meantion that one |
| 17:26.01 | Tupone | I need to include config.h as a first include in all files. I supposed common.h was include as first by all so I put config.h in |
| 17:26.55 | larsl | Should ALL files include config.h? Won't that cause unneccesary recompilation of source files that doesn't depend on preprocessor symbols in config.h? |
| 17:26.59 | bzgirl | patlabor221: we are fixing the video card problem by formating win98 and installing win2000 :) |
| 17:27.11 | patlabor221 | yay a real OS |
| 17:27.57 | Tupone | Thats is what autoconf is asking. Anyway, if change some macro that is global, don't you think you have to recompile all? |
| 17:28.19 | larsl | Only the parts that use that macro. =) |
| 17:29.40 | Tupone | But in this model all macro are defined in a place, so who know what to compile. Better be sure! But macro change slowly. |
| 17:30.52 | JBDiGriz | I was away for a sec, looks like you discovered it, Thanks! |
| 17:31.37 | Tupone | I will fix! But I do not have a Mac. Have you found some other new building problem? |
| 17:32.09 | larsl | Are there any small hacks that need to be done before the release? |
| 17:32.24 | larsl | Or are we just testing everything now? |
| 17:33.01 | Tupone | I don't know! Who are you asking to? |
| 17:33.05 | larsl | Everyonw. |
| 17:33.07 | larsl | e |
| 17:35.50 | JBDiGriz | It looks like it always configures for debug on a mac. I'm looking for it, and I'll send changes. |
| 17:37.38 | Tupone | What do you mean? -g in the compilation? or setting of DEBUG macro? |
| 17:43.09 | patlabor221 | larsl it's testing mode, mostly making sure the build system works |
| 17:43.17 | patlabor221 | ( witch it dosn't imho) |
| 17:43.39 | patlabor221 | well the VC build system works :) |
| 17:43.53 | larsl | Works fine here. =) |
| 17:44.11 | patlabor221 | yeah it does in some cases, but I cant build in RH9 anymore |
| 17:44.16 | patlabor221 | crashes the compiler |
| 17:44.19 | larsl | Except that it won't optimize for anything else than i486, but it's always been like that. |
| 17:49.00 | bzgirl | i just downloaded the latest cvs version, but get make: *** No rule to make target `linux'. Stop. when building |
| 17:49.23 | Tupone | You know you have to sh autogen.sh? |
| 17:49.27 | patlabor221 | I don't think you run make anymore |
| 17:49.42 | bzgirl | oh its changed? ok |
| 17:49.48 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:49.51 | Tupone | You can make but after configuring the directory |
| 17:49.52 | patlabor221 | it's ALLL difrent now |
| 17:50.06 | larsl | Yes, the old Makefiles are removed from CVS. |
| 17:50.14 | bzgirl | cool, the README still says to make :) |
| 17:50.29 | patlabor221 | the bins are in a difrent place too |
| 17:50.41 | patlabor221 | they are in the /src/ subdirs |
| 17:50.58 | Chestal | is configs/ used for anything or can we remove it? |
| 17:51.04 | Tupone | bzgirl: Are you using RedHat? |
| 17:51.14 | bzgirl | Tupone: debian Sid |
| 17:51.15 | patlabor221 | wasn't tim trying to remove those yesterday? |
| 17:51.30 | Chestal | don't know |
| 17:51.48 | Chestal | server should strip trailing blanks from callsigns IMHO |
| 17:51.52 | Tupone | after extracting from CVS run the sh autogen.sh. It does all. |
| 17:52.52 | bzgirl | Tupone: working now |
| 17:53.08 | Chestal | any objections to the blank issue? |
| 17:53.23 | patlabor221 | ohh it would help horibly |
| 17:53.46 | Tupone | This is not written! If you make install you get installed binary in one place: /usr/local/bin |
| 17:54.04 | patlabor221 | only thing is would the client get confused if the callsign on client and server are difrent? |
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| 17:54.27 | JBDiGriz | -g is set in the compilation. |
| 17:54.30 | Tupone | Only the data directory is wrong so you should pass to bz |
| 17:54.31 | Chestal | this situation already occurs when someone is using special chars in callsign |
| 17:54.44 | Chestal | the only one who gets confused is the player itself I think :-) |
| 17:54.53 | patlabor221 | fair enouf |
| 17:55.20 | CIA | commit by chestal: strip trailing blanks from callsigns in server |
| 17:56.13 | larsl | What about leading blanks? |
| 17:56.14 | Tupone | Remove -g from the system require some hacking. I prefer to leave it as is. Normally it just add debug info. Just strip executable if you don't like |
| 17:56.20 | larsl | Or are they alreade removed? |
| 17:56.48 | Chestal | hmm, good questions, those are still possible I guess |
| 17:56.53 | Chestal | have never seen that |
| 17:57.26 | patlabor221 | I would strip all spaces :) |
| 17:59.46 | bzgirl | the leading space allows for the seemingly blank callsign dosent it? |
| 18:01.59 | scanline | until bzflag has unicode support methinks it would just make sense to strip everything except alphanumerics and maybe a couple punctuation characters |
| 18:02.33 | scanline | hm... if you were only allowed alphanumerics, might encourage some people to have sensible names :) |
| 18:02.46 | patlabor221 | what does it do if the name is all spaces |
| 18:02.58 | patlabor221 | it should reanme there name to assclown |
| 18:03.07 | bzgirl | lol |
| 18:03.14 | scanline | hehe |
| 18:03.32 | patlabor221 | but then there woudl be games with teams of assclown435, assclown56673 |
| 18:04.05 | patlabor221 | I think it's time to go out into the big room filled with clouds |
| 18:04.09 | larsl | Alphanumerics and spaces only would be nice. |
| 18:04.26 | larsl | Internal spaces. |
| 18:04.39 | patlabor221 | I would re quire at least 3 allpha numerics |
| 18:05.10 | scanline | you should just use ibot's nickometer |
| 18:05.11 | larsl | Which ones? ;) |
| 18:05.22 | scanline | ibot: nickometer =[-!-]= |
| 18:05.22 | | '=[-!-]=' is 99.9685% lame, scanline |
| 18:05.27 | scanline | ibot: nickometer bob |
| 18:05.27 | | 'bob' is 0.000% lame, scanline |
| 18:05.46 | patlabor221 | ~nickometer scanline |
| 18:05.46 | | 'scanline' is 0.000% lame, patlabor221 |
| 18:05.55 | scanline | ibot: nickometer patlabor221 |
| 18:05.55 | | 'patlabor221' is 34.000% lame, scanline |
| 18:06.02 | patlabor221 | I bet I have some lameness |
| 18:06.04 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 18:06.18 | Mr | damn |
| 18:06.20 | Mr | no . |
| 18:06.20 | scanline | ibot: nickometer " " |
| 18:06.20 | | '"' is 14.000% lame, scanline |
| 18:06.29 | scanline | ha |
| 18:06.43 | MrAnderson | ~nickometer MrAnderson |
| 18:06.43 | | 'MrAnderson' is 0.000% lame, mranderson |
| 18:06.49 | MrAnderson | heh |
| 18:07.01 | NinjaSocks | tho this one is better |
| 18:07.35 | [dmp] | ibot: nickometer assclown |
| 18:07.35 | | 'assclown' is 0.000% lame, [dmp] |
| 18:07.50 | NinjaSocks | assclowns are a serious thing |
| 18:07.56 | [dmp] | seems so. |
| 18:08.14 | NinjaSocks | I'm guessing it's % of non letter characters |
| 18:08.29 | NinjaSocks | ~nickometer 1234567 |
| 18:08.29 | | '1234567' is 73.000% lame, ninjasocks |
| 18:08.30 | scanline | IIRC it's a good bit more complicated than that |
| 18:08.36 | NinjaSocks | ahh |
| 18:08.36 | [dmp] | ibot: nickometer [assclown] |
| 18:08.36 | | '[assclown]' is 0.000% lame, [dmp] |
| 18:08.44 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-163-125.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 18:08.45 | [dmp] | ibot: nickometer [dmp] |
| 18:08.45 | | '[dmp]' is 0.000% lame, [dmp] |
| 18:08.48 | [dmp] | phew |
| 18:08.52 | NinjaSocks | heh |
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| 18:11.38 | nikt | ~beer |
| 18:11.43 | | beer is, like, ummm, ummm good! |
| 18:11.43 | Noodlebot | beer is the mind killer |
| 18:11.57 | chris | 12acquired taste |
| 18:12.03 | NinjaSocks | beer is the little death that brings total oblivion. |
| 18:12.05 | nikt | ~more-beer |
| 18:12.12 | bzgirl | ~nickometer bzgirl |
| 18:12.12 | | 'bzgirl' is 0.000% lame, bzgirl |
| 18:12.21 | chris | 12hello Noodlebot |
| 18:12.46 | NinjaSocks | whats with the blue? |
| 18:12.56 | nikt | ~heineken |
| 18:13.04 | chris | 12hmm...it's set like that in Trillian |
| 18:13.16 | NinjaSocks | bule = funky |
| 18:13.26 | larsl | Ick. |
| 18:13.29 | chris | 12haha |
| 18:13.37 | NinjaSocks | make blue stop please |
| 18:13.56 | chris | 12why? it only sets my text apart from everyone else's |
| 18:14.01 | NinjaSocks | it's ugly |
| 18:14.15 | NinjaSocks | and it makes me thing it's a CIA commit |
| 18:14.16 | NinjaSocks | :) |
| 18:14.22 | scanline | haha |
| 18:14.24 | chris | 12haha |
| 18:14.40 | scanline | ~lart chris |
| 18:14.57 | chris | 12oops -- i'm just a hologram |
| 18:15.01 | NinjaSocks | wow, I wanted a cheap printer, I didn't know it was going to be 29.95$ |
| 18:15.03 | chris | 12sorry |
| 18:15.43 | chris | 12does anyone know where Noodlebot went? |
| 18:15.52 | NinjaSocks | to #noodlebot |
| 18:16.21 | chris | 12oh yes i suppose i could do that...i haven't used IRC since last year...:-\ |
| 18:16.32 | scanline | no wonder you have that annoying default color |
| 18:16.53 | chris | 12hehe |
| 18:17.02 | NinjaSocks | trillian's IRC is buggy, it will eventualy use 100% of your CPU |
| 18:17.14 | chris | 12oh? how's that? |
| 18:17.16 | scanline | would be better to just grab xchat for windows |
| 18:17.28 | chris | 12hmm ok i'll look for stuff on that |
| 18:17.31 | chris | 12thanks |
| 18:17.32 | NinjaSocks | x chat is coool cept for 1 thing, it dosn't like multiple monitors |
| 18:17.54 | scanline | NinjaSocks: I use xchat, and have two monitors.. no problems here |
| 18:18.04 | NinjaSocks | on windows? |
| 18:18.10 | scanline | occasionally |
| 18:18.22 | NinjaSocks | and is one of your monitors in negitive coords? |
| 18:18.34 | NinjaSocks | that's specificly what it dosn't seem to like |
| 18:18.45 | NinjaSocks | menus come up on the pirmary, not on the secondary |
| 18:18.46 | scanline | eh.. why would windows use negative coords for one screen? |
| 18:19.01 | scanline | oh yeah.. I did notice a little problem with the menus |
| 18:19.03 | NinjaSocks | primary monitor on the right, secondary on the left |
| 18:19.07 | scanline | but I don't need menus in xchat that often :) |
| 18:19.18 | NinjaSocks | primary allways have 0,0 |
| 18:19.37 | NinjaSocks | I'd fix it if I could get gtk to build |
| 18:20.52 | NinjaSocks | or I could turn MFC noodlebot into an IRC client :) |
| 18:21.53 | scanline | haha |
| 18:25.13 | NinjaSocks | serioulsly I should not be able to get a USB color printer for $30 in a retail store, that's just not right |
| 18:25.54 | scanline | it's all because the ink cartridges are so damn expensive |
| 18:26.09 | scanline | they give away printers almost free then gouge you on the ink |
| 18:27.45 | NinjaSocks | yeah ink at best buy costs more then the printer |
| 18:30.08 | NinjaSocks | but I rarely print at home, but when I do, it sucks having to use this crapy lazer |
| 18:30.28 | NinjaSocks | it dosn't work right, you have to hand pull the paper thru or it will jam :( |
| 18:33.31 | NinjaSocks | well time to see if the real world is still there. |
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| 18:43.11 | *** part/#bzflag chris (~cjd1701@1Cust41.tnt6.dfw9.da.uu.net) |
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| 19:15.00 | bzgirl | If a server still uses the /password option, who ever uses the /password command will temporarily get acce |
| 19:15.09 | bzgirl | ss to all functions just as normal |
| 19:15.30 | bzgirl | does this mean i can remove -passwd ? |
| 19:17.29 | Chestal | bzg: depends on what you want |
| 19:18.14 | Chestal | bzg: /password lets you becoem a superadmin, but you can define group(s) ina way that a player who /identifies has the exact same privileges |
| 19:18.25 | bzgirl | i see yes |
| 19:18.28 | Chestal | I will remove -passwd in the long run |
| 19:19.43 | bzgirl | also can all servers you run share the same userdb,passdb and groupdb files? |
| 19:48.31 | creeperz | 2What's wrong? :-) |
| 19:48.38 | creeperz | 2Ok? :-) |
| 19:55.39 | creeperz | Well, I better get to work if I want to go anywhere today :-/ |
| 19:55.39 | creeperz | Yesterday, my dad told me I could go over to my friends, now he says "There's still work that needs doing" |
| 19:56.19 | cree_work | :-/ |
| 19:56.33 | cree_work | :-( |
| 19:56.35 | cree_work | That's odd |
| 19:56.43 | cree_work | I cannot do any commands |
| 19:56.49 | hi | ...I typed that 3 minutes ago |
| 20:21.29 | bzgirl | hello captain_proton |
| 20:21.52 | captain_proton | hiya |
| 20:25.05 | *** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 coming RSN || for a giggle, check for crs' name in the credits for Finding Nemo |
| 20:25.46 | doughecka | howed he get in there? |
| 20:25.54 | captain_proton | um...he works for pixar? :) |
| 20:26.00 | doughecka | oh? coool |
| 20:26.24 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:28.03 | doughecka | whats his name? |
| 20:30.13 | doughecka | http://groundhog.pair.com/ |
| 20:30.16 | captain_proton | whats his name?? |
| 20:30.33 | doughecka | had to figure out how to type the thing |
| 20:30.38 | captain_proton | do you know -anything- about bzflag? |
| 20:32.15 | bzgirl | theres something im not sure is good about this /register and /identify command....... |
| 20:32.38 | bzgirl | if i run my server in debug mode, can i not see everyones callsign passwords? |
| 20:32.53 | doughecka | yep |
| 20:33.06 | bzgirl | a "rouge" server admin might be a problem in that instance |
| 20:33.20 | doughecka | hmm, thats true |
| 20:33.51 | bzgirl | set up a server on your home network, advertise it as "please test my new map.." etc etc |
| 20:34.02 | stibnite | I think i look pretty with lots of rouge on |
| 20:34.04 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:34.09 | stibnite | thanks doug |
| 20:34.16 | bzgirl | ~spell rogue |
| 20:34.17 | | 'rogue' may be spelled correctly |
| 20:34.18 | doughecka | stibnite: stop, your making me sick :P |
| 20:34.26 | stibnite | already done |
| 20:34.27 | doughecka | thanks? |
| 20:34.31 | bzgirl | ~spell rogue |
| 20:34.31 | | 'rogue' may be spelled correctly |
| 20:34.46 | doughecka | ~dict rogue |
| 20:35.09 | doughecka | huh, you learn new things everyday |
| 20:35.41 | captain_proton | bzgirl: i don't intend to register on servers that i don't know :P |
| 20:36.07 | bzgirl | neither do I :) |
| 20:36.37 | bzgirl | but perhaps a posting to that effect on bzbb might be a good idea |
| 20:37.54 | captain_proton | or at least something to the effect of "use a different password on trusted servers" |
| 20:38.06 | bzgirl | yeah |
| 20:40.37 | Chestal | bzg: and no, there is no easy sharing between servers. I use separate files on each of my server and synch them manually. /reload helps a little |
| 20:45.00 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:45.07 | captain_proton | rpm build is proceeding without failure so far :) |
| 20:45.31 | Chestal | suspicious |
| 20:45.38 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 20:45.53 | captain_proton | this is after 5 hours of hacking at it ;) |
| 20:48.28 | captain_proton | SceneRenderer.cxx:588: warning: value computed is not used |
| 20:48.29 | captain_proton | BLAH |
| 20:48.32 | captain_proton | what is causing that?!?! |
| 20:48.48 | Chestal | this is what TIm was getting? |
| 20:49.02 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 20:50.11 | captain_proton | i don't see how its not being used |
| 20:51.22 | Chestal | I wonder what it is referring to |
| 20:51.32 | Chestal | yu coudl try and break this line into two |
| 20:51.48 | Chestal | so it must decide whether it refers to the sum or the method call |
| 20:52.09 | captain_proton | ok |
| 20:52.39 | Chestal | if it would be in the vector implementation I assuem the compiler would spit out a line from the header file? |
| 20:55.29 | captain_proton | Chestal: its the method call |
| 20:58.00 | Chestal | hmm, you coudl try and replace this with OpenGLLight *l=lights[index];\n l->enableLight(); |
| 20:58.26 | Chestal | ah, just a moment |
| 20:58.34 | Chestal | now I reread the warning |
| 20:59.07 | Chestal | but still |
| 20:59.16 | Chestal | hmm, enableLight is static? |
| 20:59.51 | *** part/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 20:59.52 | Chestal | that migh tbe the reason |
| 21:00.03 | Chestal | we can replace it with OpenGLLight::enableLight(...) |
| 21:00.30 | Chestal | all of these |
| 21:01.14 | captain_proton | works :) |
| 21:02.01 | Chestal | that's a good question indeed |
| 21:02.15 | Chestal | curious that only the RH compiler emits a warning |
| 21:02.25 | Chestal | does it use other compiler options? |
| 21:02.28 | captain_proton | well technically i think its "supported" behavior |
| 21:02.29 | larsl | Isn't 2.96 known to be buggy? |
| 21:02.39 | captain_proton | larsl: very |
| 21:03.13 | Chestal | 2.96? Is this an old RH? |
| 21:03.18 | captain_proton | Chestal: 7.3 |
| 21:03.51 | Chestal | edbian unstable is now using gcc 3.3 per default |
| 21:03.55 | captain_proton | its the version we run in the labs |
| 21:04.00 | captain_proton | so its the version i have access to |
| 21:04.04 | captain_proton | (tim too) |
| 21:04.50 | captain_proton | we should probably make 2 rpms |
| 21:04.55 | captain_proton | one for 7.3 and below |
| 21:04.58 | captain_proton | the other for 8.0 and above |
| 21:05.03 | captain_proton | (abi) |
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| 21:07.19 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: don't call a static function on an instance (fixes 'computed value not used' |
| 21:07.21 | CIA | warning on super-broken gcc 2.96) |
| 21:09.29 | larsl | Can we change the -mcpu flag to use the autoconf variable $host_cpu instead of always using -mcpu=i486? |
| 21:09.50 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: make it so that cutting a distribution tarball includes -all- the source |
| 21:10.06 | larsl | We could still build for i486 if we used the configure flag --host=i486-pc-linux-gnu. |
| 21:10.06 | captain_proton | larsl: i don't see why not |
| 21:15.25 | captain_proton | larsl: hm, here's a question for ya |
| 21:15.49 | captain_proton | i want it so that it installs the README, etc into /usr/share/doc/{name}-{version}/ |
| 21:16.29 | larsl | OK... you might need to define a install-local or install-hook target. |
| 21:16.35 | larsl | I'm not sure which one. |
| 21:16.40 | larsl | Where is it installed now? |
| 21:17.10 | captain_proton | those files aren't installed |
| 21:17.14 | captain_proton | they're just specified as EXTRA_DIST |
| 21:17.52 | larsl | Ah. |
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| 21:30.20 | larsl | Are the data files installed in strange places for everyone else too? |
| 21:30.42 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 21:32.08 | larsl | For me it installs the .po files twice, in share/bzflag/ and share/bzflag/l10n, and the other datafiles are installed to share/bzflag/bzflag. |
| 21:32.28 | captain_proton | blah! |
| 21:32.45 | captain_proton | i made those changes after it would install the data files to $datadir instead of $datadir/bzflag |
| 21:32.53 | captain_proton | i don't want .rgbs in /usr/share :P |
| 21:33.40 | larsl | Does it install the data files correctly for you? |
| 21:33.47 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 21:34.04 | larsl | Hum. |
| 21:34.08 | captain_proton | perhaps an issue with $pkgdatadir instead of $datadir ? |
| 21:34.33 | larsl | $pkgdatadir should be $datadir/bzflag |
| 21:37.44 | larsl | It is for me, when I remove the local targets from data/Makefile.am and just defines all the data files as pkgdata_DATA it goes into share/bzflag. |
| 21:38.13 | captain_proton | i added the local targets because it was going into share |
| 21:38.42 | captain_proton | perhaps we should just use $datadir/bzflag instead of $pkgdatadir? |
| 21:39.06 | larsl | Perhaps. |
| 21:39.30 | larsl | Then we could change it to $datadir/bzflag-$VERSION if we needed to separate the data for different versions. |
| 21:48.48 | larsl | CIA doesn't seem to say much. |
| 21:49.19 | captain_proton | CIA only says things when someone commits |
| 21:49.44 | larsl | I did a couple of minutes ago. |
| 21:49.46 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 21:49.55 | captain_proton | did it say something about exim? |
| 21:49.59 | larsl | Yes. |
| 21:50.03 | captain_proton | aha |
| 21:50.07 | captain_proton | i changed the script |
| 21:50.09 | larsl | exim: neither action flags nor mail addresses given |
| 21:50.13 | captain_proton | and it takes one commit before it'll say something |
| 21:50.20 | captain_proton | does some extra setup |
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| 21:56.11 | captain_proton | hm |
| 21:56.18 | captain_proton | seems like the rpm build should do --mcpu=i386 |
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| 21:56.25 | captain_proton | since its building a .i386.rpm ;) |
| 21:56.55 | larsl | OK. |
| 21:57.09 | larsl | It was optimized for i486 earlier though. =) |
| 21:57.14 | Tupone | captain_proton: Have you got my mail? |
| 21:57.32 | captain_proton | yes, let me read it |
| 21:58.04 | captain_proton | hm, it was tim that was removing directories |
| 21:58.13 | captain_proton | i've readded the 'models' chain so it'll be included in dists |
| 21:58.56 | Tupone | Just to know that you are aware of that. |
| 21:59.07 | captain_proton | yeah, i'm aware |
| 21:59.18 | Tupone | Hi put few patch on bz. |
| 21:59.38 | Tupone | about config.h not read by bzfrelay |
| 21:59.48 | Noodleman | m00f |
| 22:00.12 | Tupone | Updated README.MINGW32 |
| 22:00.58 | Tupone | And a new option on configure to possibly disable client generation. But this last, as i wrote, should be fixed |
| 22:03.18 | larsl | Tupone: Aren't the lib files for DirectX needed too? |
| 22:03.59 | Tupone | I don't thinks so. At least for MinGW32 |
| 22:04.09 | captain_proton | they ought to be |
| 22:04.09 | captain_proton | :P |
| 22:04.18 | captain_proton | since we're making directx calls |
| 22:04.42 | Tupone | I'm ignorant on this. But why for DirectX and not for all the other subsystem, like opengl |
| 22:04.58 | larsl | MinGW has it's own GL stub libraries. |
| 22:05.02 | captain_proton | directx is used for a couple things |
| 22:05.05 | captain_proton | (a) sound |
| 22:05.09 | captain_proton | (b) changing resolutions |
| 22:05.16 | captain_proton | opengl doesn't provide those things |
| 22:06.01 | Tupone | I mean: why other subsystem use just .a file and DirectX have to use other things. |
| 22:06.16 | captain_proton | huh, that didn't parse |
| 22:06.20 | captain_proton | can you rephrase? |
| 22:06.47 | Tupone | I suppose someone at MinGW32 have done the correct work for all the library. You just have to use libxxx.a |
| 22:07.07 | larsl | Hm, if they had that library they probably would provide headers too. |
| 22:07.13 | Tupone | Probabily they dinamically load everything from inside the libxxx.a |
| 22:07.27 | captain_proton | .a is a static library, not dynamic |
| 22:07.55 | Tupone | I suppose inside the libxxxx.a there is the code to dynamically link the dll |
| 22:08.02 | larsl | captain_proton: MinGW uses static libraries instead of LIB files for most Windows DLLs. |
| 22:08.03 | captain_proton | possibly |
| 22:08.34 | Tupone | there is a libsound.a for the DirectX sound primitive |
| 22:08.47 | Tupone | But header are missing |
| 22:08.53 | larsl | I never got it to run on MinGW - I could build everything using headers and libs from Patlabor221, but it dies when I tried to run it. |
| 22:09.04 | larsl | Is libsound.a for DirectSound? |
| 22:09.47 | Tupone | I know that without linking the libsound.a it gives an undefined symbol about Direct blahblahblah |
| 22:10.46 | Tupone | Why not give a try. I send you the 3 infamous file on a separate patch. Just download everything from MinGW32 |
| 22:11.02 | larsl | I'm not on a Windows box now. |
| 22:11.14 | Tupone | I run the bzflag. |
| 22:12.14 | Tupone | Usually a run Linux, but I do those things to complete the generation. This building system is useful for shell environment not for Visual |
| 22:13.33 | Tupone | Sorry, the library is called libdsound.a |
| 22:13.53 | Tupone | You can see that on configure.in |
| 22:14.12 | Tupone | dsound is meant to be ... |
| 22:44.46 | captain_proton | anybody here on redhat <=7.3? |
| 22:45.30 | captain_proton | if so, can you test this: http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/package/ |
| 22:52.35 | fiberchunks | hrm, I seem to be segfaulting quite often with new client |
| 22:53.38 | captain_proton | can you get a traceback? |
| 22:59.17 | fiberchunks | have absolutely no idea how to do that cap :) |
| 22:59.26 | fiberchunks | but if you tell me how, next time, I'll catch it |
| 22:59.59 | fiberchunks | note: may be new client, may be new box -- but every other app is stable, so I doubt it's new box |
| 23:00.09 | bzgirl | is there a command in linux to sync sever files contents based on another file? make file1 file2 file3 all look like file4? |
| 23:00.43 | captain_proton | cp file4 file1 |
| 23:00.43 | captain_proton | etc |
| 23:00.44 | fiberchunks | cp file4 file1 file2 file3 ? |
| 23:00.47 | captain_proton | :) |
| 23:01.12 | fiberchunks | short route -- you beat me to it ;) |
| 23:01.27 | captain_proton | can't do multiple files in the same command |
| 23:01.40 | bzgirl | but all the files actually have the same name :) |
| 23:01.47 | bzgirl | but are in diff dir's |
| 23:01.57 | captain_proton | so give it the path |
| 23:02.03 | bzgirl | ok |
| 23:02.03 | larsl | for i in 1 2 3; do ln file$i file4; done |
| 23:02.13 | Chestal | proton: cat file4 | tee file1 file2 > file3 :-) |
| 23:02.19 | captain_proton | Chestal: hehe |
| 23:02.24 | fiberchunks | gah... |
| 23:02.27 | bzgirl | its to sync these userdb groupdb passdb files |
| 23:03.35 | Chestal | I wonder if it's feasible, to automatically do a reload before changes are written |
| 23:04.08 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: you wanna fill me in on backtracing? |
| 23:04.13 | captain_proton | wouldn't that wipe out local changes? |
| 23:04.19 | Chestal | that way we could share files, but would better use file locking then, hmm |
| 23:04.21 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: gdb the program, run it |
| 23:04.28 | fiberchunks | ah, can do that ;) |
| 23:04.31 | captain_proton | when it crashes, do 'bt' and copy that elsewhere |
| 23:04.42 | captain_proton | make sure your bzflag is compiled with debug |
| 23:04.47 | Chestal | proton: well, it would ahve to do the reload before the changes are made |
| 23:04.48 | fiberchunks | can do that too |
| 23:05.11 | captain_proton | it'd be neat to do some sort of timestamping so that changes can be merged |
| 23:05.48 | larsl | We could use some kind of file monitoring tool (fam or something else). |
| 23:06.10 | Nidhoggr | if you use autogen.sh, it doesn't put stuff in the bin dir if the compile fails on the client. |
| 23:06.23 | Chestal | there is no bin dir |
| 23:06.30 | Nidhoggr | ah, |
| 23:06.31 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 23:06.33 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:06.41 | Nidhoggr | autogen worked, though. |
| 23:06.44 | Nidhoggr | which is good. |
| 23:07.28 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: is make linux ; make debug the appropriate method for that? |
| 23:07.39 | Nidhoggr | I suppose I should start reporting my issues with mac bzflag. |
| 23:07.59 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: no |
| 23:08.03 | Chestal | well, good night. For the records: didn't have any problems with the new version so far |
| 23:08.06 | captain_proton | ./configure --enable-debug |
| 23:08.08 | captain_proton | 'night Chestal |
| 23:08.09 | fiberchunks | thx |
| 23:08.31 | captain_proton | wooboop |
| 23:08.36 | captain_proton | 6th most active on sf :) |
| 23:08.42 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:09.04 | Nidhoggr | secretplace has been really busy the last few weeks |
| 23:09.15 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 23:09.18 | Nidhoggr | steady inflow of new folks. |
| 23:10.05 | larsl | 6th most active? How did we get there? |
| 23:10.34 | bzgirl | cu Ches |
| 23:10.40 | captain_proton | larsl: all our cvs activity |
| 23:18.08 | fiberchunks | wow, has the compile time really increased ? |
| 23:18.51 | larsl | It shouldn't have. Same compiler, same files. |
| 23:21.19 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: fix rpm builds |
| 23:21.56 | larsl | Hm, it still hasn't said anything about my commit. |
| 23:22.23 | captain_proton | larsl: your commit earlier with the exim message? it won't |
| 23:22.27 | captain_proton | next time you commit it'll announce it |
| 23:23.09 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: use $datadir/bzflag instead of $pkgdatadir |
| 23:23.21 | larsl | Oh. |
| 23:23.33 | larsl | So it won't announce them in chronological order? |
| 23:23.40 | captain_proton | it will |
| 23:23.50 | captain_proton | just the one with the exim message it was doing some setup thats required now |
| 23:23.58 | captain_proton | i had to change it to do that to stop permission problems |
| 23:23.58 | larsl | Ah. |
| 23:24.19 | larsl | Only that one commit, or first commit for each user? |
| 23:24.27 | captain_proton | first commit for each user |
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| 23:53.52 | captain_proton | hiya MrAnderson |
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| 23:54.20 | patlabor221 | sup |
| 23:55.05 | fiberchunks | hrmph, couldn't get it to barf again :\ |
| 23:56.53 | fiberchunks | lo patlabor221 |
| 23:57.44 | patlabor221 | how goes it |
| 23:58.29 | fiberchunks | alrighty -- how bout you |
| 23:59.04 | patlabor221 | I'm sick |
| 23:59.29 | fiberchunks | ah, pisser -- drink lots of 'fluids' ;) |