| 00:02.46 | TimRiker | but how is the user to know that there is a policies.txt there to ask for in the first place? |
| 00:03.07 | captain_proton | TimRiker: in the servers i've seen that use it they announce that in the server message |
| 00:03.10 | doughecka | have it in the startup message |
| 00:03.30 | captain_proton | you like? |
| 00:03.32 | doughecka | btw are we gonna call this wasabi? :) |
| 00:03.36 | captain_proton | doughecka: no |
| 00:03.41 | doughecka | bah |
| 00:03.47 | TimRiker | sounds good to me (/help) |
| 00:03.56 | captain_proton | TimRiker: okees, i'll continue doing it then |
| 00:04.03 | TimRiker | what was the other that we discusses? |
| 00:04.09 | captain_proton | other... ? |
| 00:04.26 | doughecka | patlabors GM patch>? |
| 00:04.27 | TimRiker | the tag line for the release. |
| 00:04.32 | captain_proton | oh |
| 00:04.36 | captain_proton | scanline had a couple |
| 00:04.41 | captain_proton | along the same theme |
| 00:04.48 | TimRiker | it was one of his I think. |
| 00:04.54 | captain_proton | "steely eyed bananna" or "thinly sliced bananna of sweet retribution" |
| 00:05.22 | doughecka | that last is a mouth full :) |
| 00:06.13 | TimRiker | yeah: steely-eyed, banana-slinging sharpshooters |
| 00:06.31 | captain_proton | eh |
| 00:06.39 | captain_proton | i could do without quoting old donkey kong ads |
| 00:06.44 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:06.47 | TimRiker | ~google for steely-eyed, banana-slinging sharpshooters |
| 00:07.22 | doughecka | taken :) |
| 00:07.33 | captain_proton | err, not donkey kong |
| 00:07.43 | captain_proton | silly scorched earth knockoffs :) |
| 00:07.49 | doughecka | qbasic? |
| 00:07.52 | doughecka | that version? |
| 00:07.54 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:08.20 | TimRiker | brb |
| 00:08.53 | *** join/#bzflag BZFlag (~timr@proxyle01.ext.ti.com) |
| 00:09.06 | doughecka | ho ho, its "BzFlag!" |
| 00:09.15 | doughecka | ~seen bzflag |
| 00:09.15 | | bzflag is currently on #zaurus (22s) #elinux (22s) #utah (22s) #bzflag (22s) |
| 00:09.29 | doughecka | bah, how long since you connect as that? |
| 00:09.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 00:09.46 | TimRiker | a while |
| 00:10.43 | doughecka | woo, 183 megs of ram being used... a record for me :) |
| 00:10.57 | doughecka | as in minimum* not max :) |
| 00:12.35 | TimRiker | no cia patches for ibot? |
| 00:12.49 | captain_proton | TimRiker: naw |
| 00:13.00 | captain_proton | i suppose it would be possible, but its nice to have everyone using CIA |
| 00:13.04 | captain_proton | http://navi.picogui.org/cgi-bin/cia_stats.cgi |
| 00:13.38 | captain_proton | except raster just made it flood itself off :) |
| 00:13.59 | captain_proton | TimRiker: you seen #commits? (while CIA is online) |
| 00:16.52 | TimRiker | you'll hit the channel limit shortly. |
| 00:17.15 | TimRiker | blootbot has some flood protection already. |
| 00:17.22 | captain_proton | have a channel limit? |
| 00:17.32 | captain_proton | well scanline made it restrict itself to one line per second |
| 00:17.34 | TimRiker | freenode has a channel limit. 20 channels |
| 00:17.39 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 00:17.48 | TimRiker | ibot is on 19 most of the time. |
| 00:17.49 | | TimRiker: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 00:18.14 | captain_proton | well it looks like chipx86 is going to talk to lilo/mysticone about getting it exempted from the flood protection, so maybe they can get it exempted from that too |
| 00:18.31 | TimRiker | ibot might call me a moron if I send it a really long line of text to parse and he does not know what to do with it. |
| 00:18.31 | | TimRiker: You are moron #8 |
| 00:18.47 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 00:19.54 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-67-115-245-230.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 00:19.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 00:26.37 | TimRiker | captain_proton: you added the superbullet alt look. you like it or not? |
| 00:27.28 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i like it, could do with some more saturation on the graphics |
| 00:27.59 | Patlabor221 | as soon as I get photoshop and gimp installed, I'll have them fixed |
| 00:29.39 | TimRiker | any diff on non-textured machines? |
| 00:30.05 | Patlabor221 | I don' think so |
| 00:31.07 | captain_proton | shouldn't have |
| 00:31.21 | captain_proton | this just affects which texture is applied |
| 00:31.22 | captain_proton | i can test |
| 00:33.21 | TimRiker | looks like no effect. |
| 00:33.26 | TimRiker | what should still be blinking? |
| 00:34.04 | TimRiker | do SBs still have colors? |
| 00:34.11 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 00:34.46 | captain_proton | example /help server running on bzflag.net:5155 |
| 00:36.45 | TimRiker | ~nslookup bzflag.net |
| 00:38.18 | TimRiker | join with me, k? |
| 00:38.48 | captain_proton | ok |
| 00:48.54 | TimRiker | also udp does not work, just tcp. |
| 00:49.10 | captain_proton | odd |
| 00:49.26 | captain_proton | i wonder if it was because of your proxy that it was kicking off |
| 00:50.09 | TimRiker | perhaps. you get kicked at all? |
| 00:50.20 | captain_proton | nope |
| 00:50.24 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: poke |
| 00:51.07 | captain_proton | perhaps that wasn't the greatest idea... |
| 00:51.10 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 00:51.37 | fiberchunks | wow, you have the power to poke someone and kick em off irc ;) |
| 00:53.20 | TimRiker | fiberchunks: poke |
| 00:53.52 | fiberchunks | aw, am i that bad ? |
| 00:54.29 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-67-115-245-230.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 00:54.29 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 00:55.01 | sussudio | win32 cvs is helladamnslow |
| 00:55.21 | Patlabor221 | what client you using? |
| 00:55.26 | sussudio | cvs |
| 00:55.36 | Patlabor221 | ahhh never tried that on windows |
| 00:55.46 | sussudio | Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11.5 (client) |
| 00:56.16 | Patlabor221 | I allways use TortoiseCVS |
| 00:56.19 | Patlabor221 | or wincvs |
| 00:56.25 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: can you test something for me? |
| 00:56.31 | Patlabor221 | depends what it is |
| 00:56.32 | sussudio | *shrug*. this is the first thing that google returned. |
| 00:56.34 | captain_proton | join bzflag.net:5155 and do /help readme |
| 00:56.40 | captain_proton | see if it enkicks you off |
| 00:56.47 | Patlabor221 | if I can find BZ sure |
| 00:58.54 | fiberchunks | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.19 | Patlabor221 | worked fine |
| 00:59.19 | TimRiker | ~google for whatever sussudio is looking for |
| 00:59.31 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 00:59.54 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i'm guessing its just a problem with your proxy & getting too many messages in a very short period |
| 01:00.10 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i can hack up a line count restriction |
| 01:00.15 | Patlabor221 | http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ |
| 01:00.24 | Patlabor221 | imho the best cvs client for windows |
| 01:00.56 | TimRiker | captain_proton: no log messages? |
| 01:01.40 | captain_proton | TimRiker: hm? |
| 01:05.08 | TimRiker | from when I got disconnected. |
| 01:05.15 | TimRiker | try -d -d -d for example. |
| 01:05.27 | sussudio | pamela anderson tried that |
| 01:05.42 | captain_proton | TimRiker: ok, try now |
| 01:06.22 | TimRiker | word? |
| 01:06.32 | captain_proton | Player Tim [0] drop, unresponsive with 16466 bytes queued |
| 01:06.32 | captain_proton | Player Tim [0] on 7 removed: |
| 01:07.21 | TimRiker | ah.. so my proxy was too slow. |
| 01:07.28 | TimRiker | gotta run... on later. |
| 01:07.33 | captain_proton | k |
| 01:07.36 | captain_proton | wait, quickly |
| 01:07.39 | sussudio | tried udptunnel? |
| 01:07.46 | captain_proton | should i just put in a 30-line limit and call it good? |
| 01:07.58 | captain_proton | anybody who has more than 30 lines in their help files needs help :) |
| 01:08.19 | sussudio | mine would have just one line: press f12 for help |
| 01:08.25 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:08.43 | TimRiker | captain_proton: if you feel the urge... I'd restrict to like 4k or something. |
| 01:08.54 | captain_proton | 4k is a -lot- of text |
| 01:09.27 | doughecka | killed me too |
| 01:09.56 | TimRiker | how large is the readme? |
| 01:10.11 | captain_proton | -rw-r--r-- 1 jupiter users 8.1K Jun 1 14:49 README |
| 01:10.20 | TimRiker | ok, 1k perhaps? |
| 01:10.53 | TimRiker | how far down is "Compiling and Installation" the ==== after that is the last I see, |
| 01:10.59 | captain_proton | 1k is about a page |
| 01:11.07 | captain_proton | i'm gonna say 20 lines :) |
| 01:11.13 | TimRiker | fine with me. |
| 01:11.25 | captain_proton | since this is in-game |
| 01:11.55 | TimRiker | l8tr |
| 01:15.46 | *** join/#bzflag Apache (~apache@pcp01187301pcs.strl401.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:16.00 | *** join/#bzflag stibnite (is@aau.cx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 01:19.19 | doughecka | ? |
| 01:20.25 | fiberchunks | stibnite: do you own hashmark? |
| 01:22.22 | sussudio | is ruller on again? |
| 01:22.35 | sussudio | ~hashmark |
| 01:22.47 | sussudio | hmm |
| 01:22.48 | doughecka | yea :P |
| 01:22.51 | sussudio | ~literal hashmark |
| 01:22.52 | | hashmark is <reply> see bzfquery bzflag.hashmark.net:17200 |
| 01:23.16 | sussudio | ~hashmark s/17200/18200/ |
| 01:23.27 | sussudio | ~hashmark =~ s/17200/18200/ |
| 01:23.28 | | OK, sussudio |
| 01:23.32 | sussudio | ~hashmark |
| 01:23.33 | Noodlebot | see bzfquery bzflag.hashmark.net:17200 |
| 01:23.46 | doughecka | interesting |
| 01:23.49 | sussudio | ruller is a cheater |
| 01:23.52 | doughecka | sussudio has ibot experiencee |
| 01:32.30 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-67-115-245-230.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 01:32.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 01:32.44 | fiberchunks | wb Patlabor221 |
| 01:32.50 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 01:33.39 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: what was your idea? |
| 01:34.20 | Patlabor221 | ohh I'll tell you in a bit |
| 01:37.30 | Patlabor221 | how does one turn on dir browsing in apache? |
| 01:38.06 | sussudio | Patlabor221: don't put in an index.html? |
| 01:38.48 | fiberchunks | no, there's a parameter for it -- can't remember what it is though :\ |
| 01:38.52 | doughecka | it should be on by default |
| 01:39.05 | fiberchunks | no, it shouldn't, iirc |
| 01:39.18 | doughecka | huh, mine is |
| 01:39.24 | captain_proton | AllowIndex yes or something like that |
| 01:39.30 | Patlabor221 | I only want it for some folders |
| 01:39.38 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: think it's <BrowseDirs> |
| 01:39.40 | bzgirl | i think it might be on by default, indexes directive |
| 01:39.47 | fiberchunks | or something like what captain_proton said |
| 01:40.09 | Patlabor221 | well I'll do this the old fasioned way then |
| 01:40.10 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/btbolt.png |
| 01:40.19 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/Gtbolt.png |
| 01:40.22 | fiberchunks | nice |
| 01:40.35 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/gtbolt.png realy |
| 01:40.35 | fiberchunks | gt wasn't found |
| 01:40.42 | Patlabor221 | I did cap by accedent |
| 01:40.58 | Patlabor221 | there is p b r g and y |
| 01:41.01 | fiberchunks | like bt better |
| 01:41.07 | Patlabor221 | they are team colors |
| 01:41.08 | Patlabor221 | they all go in |
| 01:41.24 | Patlabor221 | cap is that more like what you want? |
| 01:41.27 | fiberchunks | why does the middle of the green one look so muted? |
| 01:41.32 | Patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 01:41.36 | Patlabor221 | I'm looking into that now |
| 01:42.06 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah its a definite improvement - will have to see in-game though |
| 01:42.11 | Patlabor221 | it's like it was blended to gray not white |
| 01:42.22 | Patlabor221 | let me fix green then rgbem |
| 01:43.22 | fiberchunks | hardwire: http://www.geekculture.org/joyoftech/joyarchives/483.html |
| 01:43.34 | fiberchunks | i meant har: http://www.geekculture.org/joyoftech/joyarchives/483.html |
| 01:46.25 | captain_proton | "Flags are for wusses? Anyone who says that has never learned how to use a superflag... and the same goes for jumping." |
| 01:46.27 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 01:46.42 | doughecka | fiberchunks_: hehe |
| 01:47.46 | Patlabor221 | god I hate gim |
| 01:47.50 | Patlabor221 | gimp even |
| 01:47.57 | Patlabor221 | "lets crash on overwriting a file" |
| 01:48.04 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:48.09 | fiberchunks | :( |
| 01:48.20 | *** join/#bzflag CIA (~CIA@12-252-175-3.client.attbi.com) |
| 01:48.48 | doughecka | wow, my ISP just put up a spam/virus filter |
| 01:48.51 | fiberchunks | shhhhhh. they're here |
| 01:49.02 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: help commands |
| 01:49.25 | sussudio | committed by authorities: doughecka |
| 01:50.01 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: damnit, changelog |
| 01:50.18 | doughecka | CIA cussed! |
| 01:50.55 | Patlabor221 | cap |
| 01:50.55 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/boltArt.zip |
| 01:51.02 | Patlabor221 | see if that suits your fancy |
| 02:00.02 | *** join/#bzflag ski (ski@pool-151-201-36-205.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:00.07 | ski | hello |
| 02:00.31 | ski | hmm, everyone must be bzing |
| 02:00.42 | ski | ill go check |
| 02:00.43 | Apache | hey ski |
| 02:00.46 | ski | hello |
| 02:01.12 | sussudio | lo pigski |
| 02:04.09 | bzgirl | ski? |
| 02:04.24 | *** join/#bzflag Ramstein (Ramstein@0-1pool183-7.nas20.tempe1.az.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 02:04.38 | Ramstein | any avengers here |
| 02:04.44 | *** join/#bzflag jslagle (raistlin@208.20.58.194) |
| 02:04.45 | bzgirl | there are some tanks looking for you in rose's 59999 |
| 02:05.43 | ski | hello |
| 02:05.48 | Ramstein | hey ski |
| 02:06.03 | ski | rose 59999 |
| 02:06.08 | Ramstein | USD is waitin for u guys on rosemyers 59999 |
| 02:06.20 | ski | ok |
| 02:06.22 | *** part/#bzflag jslagle (raistlin@208.20.58.194) |
| 02:06.24 | ski | cya there |
| 02:06.27 | Ramstein | n see u there |
| 02:06.48 | captain_proton | i think aside from Patlabor221/michaelh20's admin stuff, thats all thats going into g2 :) |
| 02:07.53 | bzgirl | is the admin stuff going into cvs? or wait till a release? |
| 02:08.18 | captain_proton | should go into cvs as soon as its ready |
| 02:08.38 | doughecka | hey, I was gonna poke him first |
| 02:12.34 | Patlabor221 | I AM!!! |
| 02:12.46 | *** kick/#bzflag [doughecka!~jeffm@adsl-67-115-245-230.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by Patlabor221 (poke) |
| 02:12.47 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (WOZNIAK@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 02:12.53 | fiberchunks | return of iron fist! |
| 02:13.14 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 02:13.14 | doughecka | BBJ, fiberchunks :P |
| 02:13.18 | Patlabor221 | I Just got a cvs client installed |
| 02:13.20 | captain_proton | was that just a generic frustration kick? :) |
| 02:13.36 | Patlabor221 | no it was a pokeback |
| 02:13.48 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 02:13.50 | Patlabor221 | now I have a song suck in me head and I don't have a mp3 of it |
| 02:14.01 | sussudio | Patlabor221: it's a small world? |
| 02:14.11 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 02:14.14 | Patlabor221 | o fortuna |
| 02:14.20 | fiberchunks | BBJ? wtf does that mean? |
| 02:14.44 | Patlabor221 | BBJ? |
| 02:14.56 | Patlabor221 | the big boot of justice!!!! |
| 02:15.01 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 02:15.11 | Patlabor221 | "My feet hurt, WITH DESTINY!!!" |
| 02:16.20 | Patlabor221 | http://sluggy.com/d/010204.html |
| 02:17.05 | Patlabor221 | fighting game engrish is the best kind of engrish |
| 02:17.10 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 02:17.28 | sussudio | doughecka: wench |
| 02:17.54 | doughecka | ? |
| 02:18.07 | sussudio | doughecka: www.little-gamers.com |
| 02:18.17 | Patlabor221 | send in the ninjas!!! |
| 02:18.20 | fiberchunks | the fifth panel graphics look like stylized japanese letters that spell out phuck |
| 02:18.41 | Patlabor221 | I think it's suposed to be thuck |
| 02:18.58 | fiberchunks | heh -- dirty minds think dirty things ;) |
| 02:19.09 | Patlabor221 | I have a shirt somewhere with that comic on it :) |
| 02:20.14 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: my your superbullet looks pale, is it ill? |
| 02:20.21 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 02:20.35 | Patlabor221 | your chi is weak |
| 02:20.41 | Patlabor221 | were those better? |
| 02:20.45 | captain_proton | much |
| 02:20.47 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 02:21.54 | Patlabor221 | cap you don't have a recording of "o fortuna" do you? |
| 02:22.28 | Patlabor221 | ~bzlist |
| 02:22.33 | captain_proton | you mean from carmina burana |
| 02:22.37 | captain_proton | by carl orff? :) |
| 02:22.44 | Patlabor221 | carl orff |
| 02:23.22 | Patlabor221 | see this is why cap is "the man" :) |
| 02:23.34 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:23.57 | sussudio | ~tube doughecka |
| 02:24.20 | sussudio | snort. |
| 02:24.48 | doughecka | The Tube is Civilization! |
| 02:30.55 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: my your superbullet looks pale, is it ill? |
| 02:32.34 | Patlabor221 | thanks for the song cap, I would realy like to see this performed live :) |
| 02:44.17 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: updating the scripts that inform the CIA |
| 02:44.25 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:49.09 | CIA | commit by {green}davidtrowbridge: silly documentation change in 12bzflag DEVINFO |
| 02:49.55 | doughecka | ooh color |
| 02:50.22 | CIA | commit by {green}davidtrowbridge: yeehaw in 12CVSROOT ciabot |
| 02:59.13 | CIA | commit by 03davidtrowbridge: colors are neat, but really irritating in 12CVSROOT ciabot |
| 02:59.52 | doughecka | 12no, 01really15? |
| 03:01.55 | fiberchunks | oi font colorage |
| 03:02.37 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: its gone now |
| 03:02.47 | captain_proton | just a test as scanline added some color codes to the mix |
| 03:02.52 | fiberchunks | oh :) |
| 03:05.24 | Patlabor221 | ohh my, anime songs do NOT sound good in english |
| 03:05.33 | captain_proton | haha |
| 03:05.50 | Patlabor221 | I guess this may sound OK if you have never heard the jap version |
| 03:07.04 | Patlabor221 | well at least DCC works now |
| 03:08.37 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: you have gpm running on your gentoo box? |
| 03:08.40 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@c-67-163-110-34.client.comcast.net) |
| 03:08.55 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: yeah |
| 03:08.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 03:09.30 | fiberchunks | i have problems getting it together -- starts and all, but then the mouse bugs out and musses with X and the console -- any ideas? |
| 03:09.48 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: check which mouse protocol its set to use? |
| 03:10.21 | fiberchunks | did that, tried both in /etc/conf.d/gpm - no joy |
| 03:12.49 | *** join/#bzflag jslagle (raistlin@208.20.58.194) |
| 03:12.53 | jslagle | Hrm. |
| 03:13.09 | jslagle | I keep getting disconnected because I'm not using udp |
| 03:13.34 | captain_proton | why aren't you using udp? |
| 03:14.09 | jslagle | Thats a goos question! |
| 03:14.15 | captain_proton | what version? |
| 03:14.23 | captain_proton | really old ones had it turned off by default (pah) |
| 03:14.40 | jslagle | I am now! |
| 03:14.46 | jslagle | 1.7g0 |
| 03:14.55 | captain_proton | hm, strange, but ok |
| 03:15.00 | jslagle | Probably an old config file. |
| 03:15.04 | captain_proton | likely |
| 03:15.06 | jslagle | I'm not very good at steering. |
| 03:15.13 | captain_proton | it takes some practice |
| 03:21.35 | jslagle | Hrm. |
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| 03:22.27 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 03:23.12 | TimRiker | to color or not to color, that is the question. |
| 03:23.27 | captain_proton | and the answer is "no" |
| 03:23.29 | captain_proton | =) |
| 03:24.30 | jslagle | I suppose I would get better if I had a mouse rather then a touchpad on this laptop. |
| 03:25.30 | TimRiker | that's a 'goos' idea |
| 03:25.39 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-67-115-245-230.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 03:25.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 03:26.01 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: you havin conn issues tonight? |
| 03:26.16 | Patlabor221 | no, testing difs between xchat and mirc |
| 03:26.22 | Patlabor221 | having dcc issues |
| 03:26.30 | Patlabor221 | one file went to cap, but another won't |
| 03:26.35 | Patlabor221 | beezar |
| 03:26.49 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 03:27.46 | Patlabor221 | yaya /grouplist works :) |
| 03:28.37 | Patlabor221 | now to fix /ghost |
| 03:30.37 | jslagle | I only get 7 fps on this laptop too which I'm sure doesn't help. |
| 03:30.54 | Patlabor221 | what video chipset? |
| 03:31.14 | captain_proton | craptacular ATI mobile somethingorother :) |
| 03:31.26 | Patlabor221 | more then likely |
| 03:31.35 | Patlabor221 | 7 is a good frame rate for that |
| 03:31.51 | TimRiker | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] works ok for me... |
| 03:32.04 | Patlabor221 | that's not the crapy one |
| 03:32.10 | captain_proton | TimRiker: except for that whole not implementing glColorMask correctly ;-) |
| 03:32.16 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:32.21 | Patlabor221 | ati drivers suck |
| 03:32.41 | Patlabor221 | the M2 and M4 are horible ( and they made a cubic buttload of them) |
| 03:32.53 | TimRiker | ATI Technologies Inc Mobility M3 AGP 2x used to work ok for me on my dell 5000e too. |
| 03:33.17 | TimRiker | I ran both at lower res though, 640x480 with textures no lighting or shadows. |
| 03:33.29 | captain_proton | TimRiker: if you want to do really sexy stereo you'll have to come visit me ;) |
| 03:33.52 | TimRiker | ~convert cubic buttload to pounds |
| 03:34.10 | TimRiker | <ibot> Unknown unit `cubic' |
| 03:36.05 | jslagle | It's a P5 233 w/ a ATI chipset |
| 03:36.16 | jslagle | So 7 is good |
| 03:36.21 | fiberchunks | ~dict craptacular |
| 03:36.27 | jslagle | I'll try it at home on my 233 tonight and hopefully not crash X. |
| 03:36.34 | jslagle | I think my 3d stuff is horribly our of date. |
| 03:36.35 | sussudio | with the colors bzflag looks like tradewars or something... |
| 03:36.54 | jslagle | I have a Tradewars Game Server at home :P |
| 03:38.39 | Patlabor221 | and now /ghost works, tho it has one bug |
| 03:39.26 | Patlabor221 | actualy it dosn't :) |
| 03:39.48 | captain_proton | haha |
| 03:39.56 | captain_proton | i'd forgotten how entertaining harry mudd is |
| 03:40.09 | Patlabor221 | harton fentcort mudd |
| 03:42.58 | captain_proton | harcort fenton :) |
| 03:43.00 | Patlabor221 | ~bzfquery myhouse.bakadigital.com |
| 03:43.04 | Patlabor221 | ahh I was close |
| 03:43.37 | Patlabor221 | ok I need some people to get in there and register some nicks and stuff |
| 03:44.54 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 03:45.04 | captain_proton | i didn't know billy shatner was capable of making a sound like that |
| 03:46.21 | captain_proton | where do you need people |
| 03:46.24 | captain_proton | that server? |
| 03:46.38 | Patlabor221 | myhouse.bakadigital.com |
| 03:52.49 | Patlabor221 | relog |
| 03:54.14 | Patlabor221 | yay group add works now :) |
| 03:55.17 | captain_proton | can't connect |
| 03:55.56 | Patlabor221 | I know, 1 sec |
| 03:55.59 | Patlabor221 | fixing a bug |
| 03:56.19 | Patlabor221 | there, it shoudl now tell you your name is registerd, and you should identify |
| 03:57.00 | jslagle | Oh there a windows client |
| 03:57.12 | jslagle | I'll try that while I get DRI working under linux |
| 04:01.41 | Patlabor221 | ooooo there is a bug :) |
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| 04:02.43 | Patlabor221 | that was some nastyness |
| 04:02.49 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:03.02 | Patlabor221 | would crash if you did /ghost " |
| 04:03.20 | captain_proton | good bug |
| 04:03.38 | Patlabor221 | gonna add a perm dump |
| 04:10.49 | michaelh2 | interesting application -- a help system :) |
| 04:11.35 | captain_proton | :) |
| 04:11.52 | Patlabor221 | well how else wold they know what was there :) |
| 04:14.10 | michaelh2 | any change tim is going to show up and start going ballistic ? :) |
| 04:14.16 | michaelh2 | chance |
| 04:14.21 | Patlabor221 | he's here now |
| 04:15.12 | michaelh2 | ah so |
| 04:26.00 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm seems messages dont' wordwrap |
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| 04:28.33 | michaelh2 | that would need to be added.... |
| 04:29.21 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: 'configure.ac fixes for OSX' in bzflag configure.ac |
| 04:29.59 | michaelh2 | they get lopped off at MessageLen characters -- not very elegant I suppose |
| 04:30.24 | Patlabor221 | there we go, /grouplist /groupPerms /showGroup all work now |
| 04:31.19 | Patlabor221 | and /setpass works as well :) |
| 04:31.28 | michaelh2 | so how does one *initially* get access? :) |
| 04:31.47 | Patlabor221 | you /register |
| 04:31.56 | Patlabor221 | then an opp can /setgroup on you |
| 04:32.04 | Patlabor221 | and you get your group permisions |
| 04:32.19 | michaelh2 | I assume documentation will be forthcoming ? :)P |
| 04:32.41 | Patlabor221 | the server admin sets what perms everyone gets ( the default group), and what regisered people get ( the registerd group) |
| 04:32.46 | Patlabor221 | yeah I need to doc it all up |
| 04:33.07 | captain_proton | omg |
| 04:33.12 | captain_proton | Patlabor221 speeled default correctly |
| 04:33.19 | michaelh2 | coooooool |
| 04:33.25 | Patlabor221 | basicly there are allways 2 groups, ADMIN and DEFAULT :) |
| 04:33.34 | Patlabor221 | see I can be taught |
| 04:34.14 | Patlabor221 | I need to add a kick after x min of no reg as an option tho |
| 04:34.15 | michaelh2 | that's what happens when you type with a huge metal finger |
| 04:34.35 | Patlabor221 | well actualy I don't have to add that |
| 04:43.06 | Patlabor221 | is the pyramid texture suposed to "be" anything? or just a burry blob thing? |
| 04:43.14 | captain_proton | blurry blob thing |
| 04:43.25 | Patlabor221 | how bout stucko? |
| 04:43.44 | Patlabor221 | steel? |
| 04:43.53 | captain_proton | eh |
| 04:43.59 | Patlabor221 | jello? |
| 04:44.02 | captain_proton | YES |
| 04:44.07 | Patlabor221 | no problem |
| 04:45.03 | michaelh2 | paisly? |
| 04:45.08 | Patlabor221 | JELLO |
| 04:45.12 | Patlabor221 | the fist has spoken |
| 04:45.27 | captain_proton | hah |
| 04:45.44 | Patlabor221 | hey Jello is hard to draw |
| 04:46.22 | michaelh2 | you'd have to make it jiggle too |
| 04:46.41 | michaelh2 | and make tanks bounce off harder |
| 04:47.09 | michaelh2 | ----> the imfamous JELLO PATCH |
| 04:47.28 | Patlabor221 | I think I'm gonna go for stucko |
| 04:51.27 | Patlabor221 | icky who did the maping on the pyramid, it's fugly |
| 04:52.10 | michaelh2 | isn't it hardcoded? :) |
| 04:52.25 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:52.33 | Patlabor221 | still dosn't change it's fuglyness |
| 04:52.53 | Patlabor221 | I am pondering chaning the hardcoded UV maps of the tank for this release |
| 04:53.38 | michaelh2 | let them go freeeeeeeeeee...... :) |
| 04:54.11 | michaelh2 | UV? |
| 04:54.15 | Patlabor221 | no not yet, just making them not suck |
| 04:54.20 | Patlabor221 | the texture coordianted |
| 04:54.29 | Patlabor221 | gann texture coordinates |
| 04:54.41 | Patlabor221 | wow I seem to have lost the ability to type |
| 04:55.16 | michaelh2 | we could make impressionistic tanks.... random pieces moving about randomly... |
| 04:56.09 | Patlabor221 | you can do that when it's replaced witha model :) |
| 04:56.15 | sussudio | if this == 'SpaceMan Spiff' (instant_spawnkill) |
| 04:56.50 | michaelh2 | ? |
| 04:57.17 | sussudio | if spiff logs on, blow him up on spawn |
| 04:57.48 | sussudio | (hardcoded into bzflag) |
| 04:58.17 | michaelh2 | this is your suggestion? |
| 04:58.34 | sussudio | sure |
| 04:58.52 | michaelh2 | of course he never goes by SpaceMan but by Spaceman |
| 04:58.58 | sussudio | or, randomly timed messages from players saying "i'm hunting you" |
| 04:59.21 | scanline | howabout a case insensitive search for 'spaceman' anywhere in the nick :P |
| 04:59.21 | michaelh2 | how about random shots that no one else can see? :) |
| 04:59.28 | scanline | and/or 'spiff |
| 04:59.29 | jslagle | What is the PROPER way for 3dfx to work under X now? |
| 04:59.30 | scanline | ' |
| 04:59.33 | sussudio | michaelh2: IB? |
| 04:59.46 | Patlabor221 | a 3dfx? I wold say "like crap" |
| 04:59.56 | sussudio | hmm 3 month old bread |
| 05:00.07 | sussudio | its gone all gooey |
| 05:00.20 | michaelh2 | am I wrong or is bzflag like basically only working on Nvidia stuff? |
| 05:00.21 | jslagle | Hehehehehe |
| 05:00.30 | jslagle | I have a voodoo3! |
| 05:00.39 | sussudio | i have a radeon |
| 05:00.47 | Patlabor221 | oooo then I will upgrade that to "like shit" |
| 05:01.04 | michaelh2 | my friends voodoo3 was crapping out with bzflag... never got anywhere |
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| 05:01.12 | jslagle | Yeah |
| 05:01.15 | jslagle | I'm working on that now. |
| 05:01.26 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 05:02.18 | captain_proton | TimRiker: anything else besides the admin patches? |
| 05:02.33 | captain_proton | maybe...RCAM's patch? =) |
| 05:03.11 | michaelh2 | rcam? |
| 05:03.15 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: which new textures? |
| 05:03.20 | TimRiker | michaelh2: old joke. |
| 05:03.45 | captain_proton | arg |
| 05:03.46 | captain_proton | sf.net down |
| 05:03.47 | Patlabor221 | I am working on some higher res textures |
| 05:03.52 | michaelh2 | how about we get rid of the lines on the ground? |
| 05:03.57 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 05:04.07 | Patlabor221 | like a ground texture that LOOKS like grass :) |
| 05:04.30 | TimRiker | michaelh2: when textures are on, I'm probably ok with the, when they are off, you need the lines. |
| 05:04.55 | michaelh2 | I am only half serious of course.... |
| 05:05.01 | jslagle | Man. |
| 05:05.26 | captain_proton | michaelh2: bzflag works fine on my "irix testbed" |
| 05:05.36 | fiberchunks | TimRiker: just found out about rcam goodness this evening :0 |
| 05:05.36 | michaelh2 | narly |
| 05:05.54 | michaelh2 | you mean with the 10 patches you applied? :) |
| 05:05.56 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/pics/vizlab/hardware-tiny.jpg <-- irix testbed =D |
| 05:06.36 | michaelh2 | where exactly did irix come from vs. like sun..... |
| 05:06.44 | captain_proton | michaelh2: irix is made by SGI |
| 05:06.52 | jslagle | Yes. |
| 05:07.01 | jslagle | I have an O2 and an Indy :P |
| 05:07.01 | Patlabor221 | it's phat |
| 05:07.18 | Patlabor221 | here is a shot of some of the new ones |
| 05:07.19 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/newTex.png |
| 05:07.25 | michaelh2 | I remember those sus :) |
| 05:07.47 | fiberchunks | nice Patlabor221 |
| 05:08.02 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 05:08.11 | michaelh2 | ninjasocks? |
| 05:08.13 | Patlabor221 | working on the clouds now |
| 05:08.20 | Patlabor221 | NinjaSocks!!! |
| 05:08.22 | fiberchunks | tabi!! |
| 05:08.47 | captain_proton | ninjas are soooo cool they can kick your ass in their socks |
| 05:09.10 | michaelh2 | hmmm after clouds then we need the quake like wind sound :) |
| 05:09.14 | fiberchunks | no kfj though |
| 05:09.14 | Patlabor221 | damn stright |
| 05:09.28 | Patlabor221 | kfj DOUBLES your true ultimate power |
| 05:12.25 | jslagle | Grr |
| 05:12.30 | jslagle | Getting voodoo3 working on X sux |
| 05:12.45 | michaelh2 | time to upgrade to nvidia :) |
| 05:12.57 | captain_proton | or use the O2 :) |
| 05:13.06 | jslagle | Why? For the 1 time a year I play a 3d accel'd game? :D |
| 05:13.18 | jslagle | Yeah I could use the O2 but I need gcc for it |
| 05:13.32 | jslagle | which is hard to find because the irix freeware assumes you're running 6.5.18 |
| 05:13.35 | jslagle | I only have 6.5.7 |
| 05:13.45 | captain_proton | oh, which version was it |
| 05:13.49 | jslagle | The kernel headers changed |
| 05:13.54 | captain_proton | the previous fw_gcc release |
| 05:13.56 | jslagle | So gcc is busted |
| 05:14.14 | captain_proton | yeah i talked with the freeware guys about it and they said to just use the older package |
| 05:14.22 | jslagle | I can't find it :P |
| 05:14.25 | jslagle | It's not on the page |
| 05:14.27 | michaelh2 | My university experience with irix was that it was like a funky sun machine that didn't quite work right |
| 05:15.07 | michaelh2 | of course the irix machines were in the EE lab and I was Csci :) |
| 05:15.11 | captain_proton | its pretty much like any other unix |
| 05:15.18 | jslagle | Except it's different :P |
| 05:15.24 | captain_proton | just have to get used to it |
| 05:15.27 | TimRiker | you could install linux on it. ;-) |
| 05:15.38 | captain_proton | TimRiker: EEK |
| 05:15.40 | jslagle | No you couldn't |
| 05:15.48 | jslagle | Unless you didn't want to use the video hardware :P |
| 05:15.49 | TimRiker | why not? |
| 05:15.54 | michaelh2 | windows mantra --> format, reinstall |
| 05:16.06 | jslagle | TMK, the secrets of the video hardware are lost. |
| 05:16.11 | sussudio | TimRiker: are you the only admin on xmission? |
| 05:18.04 | TimRiker | hmm. So my old Indy being able to handle Linux is not the norm for sgi boxes. huh. |
| 05:18.18 | jslagle | TimRiker: Does it work with more then a serial console? |
| 05:18.36 | TimRiker | sussudio: captain_proton had them, don't know if he remembers the pw. Chestal did too at one point. |
| 05:18.48 | TimRiker | jslagle: yep. got X running and everything. |
| 05:18.58 | jslagle | You have a camera for it? |
| 05:19.02 | jslagle | The Indycam? |
| 05:19.05 | TimRiker | nope. wish I did. |
| 05:19.17 | jslagle | It won't work under anything but irix even if you did |
| 05:19.24 | sussudio | TimRiker: spoogebob has been paying xmission visits in the last week. |
| 05:21.10 | jslagle | I have an indycam for my indy |
| 05:21.16 | jslagle | and my O2 has the full video capture board :D |
| 05:22.51 | captain_proton | TimRiker: plus why would you want to give up SGI's X server? :) |
| 05:22.56 | TimRiker | cool. dat drive too? I understand the sgi version can do direct audio transfers, yes? |
| 05:23.23 | jslagle | No DAT |
| 05:23.31 | jslagle | It has SVideo input :D |
| 05:23.32 | TimRiker | captain_proton: mine is actually dual boot. just that I have some dog old version of irix on there and can't get a development system working. |
| 05:23.37 | jslagle | I will inquire into DAT for it |
| 05:23.56 | jslagle | I can get 6.5.18, I just have to wait for my friend to send it to me |
| 05:24.02 | jslagle | He sent me the O2 |
| 05:24.16 | TimRiker | well if he has "extra" copies around.... ;-) |
| 05:24.23 | captain_proton | i've yet to try 6.5.18 |
| 05:24.34 | captain_proton | got a server running 6.5.7 and the onyx has 6.5.14 |
| 05:25.08 | Patlabor221 | heh I leave the test server up, and now I look and there is a game going on, on it :) |
| 05:25.09 | TimRiker | captain_proton: you have a devel env on 6.5.7 ? |
| 05:25.26 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i don't really have a "devel env" anywhere because no licenses for MIPSpro to be found |
| 05:25.31 | captain_proton | but i've got gcc3 up on the onyx |
| 05:25.33 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 05:25.44 | jslagle | I can probably get MIPSpro too but I was told it sucks. |
| 05:25.51 | jslagle | Is that the C environment for irix? |
| 05:25.58 | captain_proton | C & C++ compilers |
| 05:26.06 | jslagle | Yeah |
| 05:26.09 | jslagle | I was told gcc is better |
| 05:26.19 | captain_proton | gcc3 is better |
| 05:26.22 | TimRiker | better is relative |
| 05:26.22 | captain_proton | gcc2.95 is not |
| 05:26.33 | captain_proton | but yeah, would be nice to have MIPSpro just to get it working |
| 05:26.43 | jslagle | My friend works for Cray and they were pitching all their old SGI stuff from the split |
| 05:26.52 | jslagle | So he sent me an O2 :D |
| 05:26.58 | captain_proton | its really creepy to have a compiler that works with flexlm :) |
| 05:27.04 | TimRiker | sweet. pitch some this way. ;-) |
| 05:27.21 | jslagle | Ok. |
| 05:27.30 | jslagle | Why is this not using hardware acceleration. |
| 05:27.39 | captain_proton | TimRiker: hehe |
| 05:27.48 | captain_proton | TimRiker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=543917&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 05:27.52 | captain_proton | there ya go, found it for you |
| 05:28.22 | captain_proton | did you know that by drawing lines differently it responds faster? :) |
| 05:28.36 | TimRiker | "It now reacts much faster..." |
| 05:28.49 | captain_proton | nevermind that its all nuum's code anyways |
| 05:28.53 | Patlabor221 | "as well as clean code" |
| 05:28.54 | TimRiker | it must. cause that's what it says |
| 05:28.57 | captain_proton | (custom tweaked by our friend ryan) |
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| 05:29.59 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 05:30.06 | michaelh2 | your server is getting goofy |
| 05:30.21 | Noodleman | what's up with it? |
| 05:30.33 | michaelh2 | pats server -- people are invisible :) |
| 05:30.33 | captain_proton | haha, you can tell it was nuum :) |
| 05:30.39 | captain_proton | // i wish complex numbers were here |
| 05:30.48 | Patlabor221 | they are? |
| 05:30.59 | michaelh2 | last time I tried |
| 05:32.10 | Patlabor221 | well not any more |
| 05:32.16 | Patlabor221 | I killed it |
| 05:32.20 | captain_proton | TimRiker: what do you say to creating a new tracker for "tweaks & enhancements" to hold patches that won't make it into the main tree? |
| 05:32.28 | captain_proton | it' |
| 05:32.38 | captain_proton | d be nice to have the patches tracker for serious in-development patches |
| 05:35.02 | TimRiker | captain_proton: hmm... that's a thought. |
| 05:35.31 | captain_proton | for instance, right now, its hard to weed out the useful stuff from the dross |
| 05:35.54 | captain_proton | i fixed that situation a bit by closing a bunch of patches as 'rejected', but it would be nice to have them open for people to look at |
| 05:36.15 | captain_proton | like scanline's oh-so-useful flight-sim patch |
| 05:36.23 | michaelh2 | should have a "zombie" status :) |
| 05:36.47 | michaelh2 | neither dead nor alive |
| 05:37.20 | michaelh2 | does sf.net allow you to have more than one patch tracker? |
| 05:37.44 | captain_proton | the trackers aren't really tied to any specific purpose |
| 05:38.09 | captain_proton | so the world file tracker is exactly the same as the patches tracker except for the name :) |
| 05:38.20 | TimRiker | I run xmission with 3 observer slots. list server does not loose it much and I never seem to get CLOSE_WAITs anymore. anyone else? |
| 05:38.21 | michaelh2 | so I've noticed |
| 05:39.39 | TimRiker | how about a "Fixes" tracker? |
| 05:40.00 | captain_proton | TimRiker: that doesn't really imply the scope i'm talking about |
| 05:40.21 | michaelh2 | how about "Flea-Patch Market" |
| 05:40.23 | TimRiker | "Upcoming Release" tracker? |
| 05:40.36 | captain_proton | the patches would have things pretty well guaranteed to get in or not yet decided, when things are rejected from the main tree they get moved into the enhancements tracker |
| 05:40.42 | Patlabor221 | the wall that the "stuff" is thrown against to see if it sticks |
| 05:41.08 | TimRiker | I'd prefer to opt-in rather than opt-out |
| 05:41.17 | captain_proton | ok |
| 05:41.28 | captain_proton | upcoming release sounds to me as good a name as any |
| 05:42.19 | TimRiker | or perhaps "Rejected Patches" and then we can have "Rejected Feature Requests" too. ;-) |
| 05:42.22 | Noodleman | is wasabi the codename for g2? |
| 05:42.27 | captain_proton | Noodleman: no |
| 05:42.48 | scanline | Vegetable Centrifuge of Sweet Crunchy Justice |
| 05:42.52 | michaelh2 | "Sucky patches section" |
| 05:42.53 | fiberchunks | lol! |
| 05:42.54 | Noodleman | 'cowpig' sounds like a good codename if you are looking for one :-) |
| 05:43.13 | captain_proton | i like michaelh2's name :) |
| 05:43.21 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:43.26 | scanline | I bet that's where my flight sim is going! |
| 05:43.36 | captain_proton | scanline: straight away ;) |
| 05:43.41 | scanline | yay! |
| 05:43.43 | michaelh2 | or perhaps "the black void of cyberspace" |
| 05:43.59 | scanline | The Black Null Void of Infinite Impenetrable Cyberspatial Doom |
| 05:44.10 | michaelh2 | or /dev/null/patches |
| 05:44.21 | scanline | hmm.. /mnt/null? :) |
| 05:44.26 | Noodleman | bzflag 1.7g2 "sweet marauding pigeons" |
| 05:44.32 | Patlabor221 | Undercover wombat |
| 05:44.37 | scanline | "Gopher of Destiny" |
| 05:44.42 | Patlabor221 | riflesaber |
| 05:44.55 | fiberchunks | Undercover womabat and the KFJ ninja socks of doom |
| 05:44.59 | Noodleman | oooh, "riflesaber weilding pigeons" |
| 05:45.07 | TimRiker | kfj? |
| 05:45.14 | Patlabor221 | Kung Foo Jacket |
| 05:45.22 | Noodleman | "kentucky fried jerboa" |
| 05:45.23 | fiberchunks | bah -- make everyone else work for it |
| 05:45.27 | michaelh2 | Kung Foo Pigeons |
| 05:45.34 | Noodleman | michaelh2: i like it :-) |
| 05:46.23 | captain_proton | wow |
| 05:46.29 | captain_proton | there are like 3 unique star wars plots |
| 05:46.31 | TimRiker | wow? |
| 05:46.37 | captain_proton | err |
| 05:46.38 | fiberchunks | heh, Kung Foo << like that better than the original :) |
| 05:46.39 | captain_proton | star trek plots |
| 05:47.12 | captain_proton | (a) find old society with some weird brain thing, spock says leave them alone, mccoy says "but they're not living, they're existing!", they argue, kirk goes with mccoy |
| 05:47.22 | captain_proton | (b) trapped by some aliens, have to escape prison |
| 05:47.36 | Patlabor221 | Ensigns Soonbedead, Gonnabiteit, and Smith ? |
| 05:48.02 | michaelh2 | it's fatal to be an extra |
| 05:48.14 | jslagle | Hrm. |
| 05:48.17 | jslagle | MUST MAKE GLX WORK :P |
| 05:48.24 | captain_proton | (c) get "captured" by robots/computers, confuse the robots/computers, end up with lots of mechanical-sounding voices saying DOES NOT COMPUTE |
| 05:48.26 | michaelh2 | modify that tricorder! |
| 05:48.34 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 05:48.39 | michaelh2 | then smoke billows out |
| 05:48.44 | captain_proton | exactly |
| 05:49.09 | michaelh2 | then they race away before the planet explodes |
| 05:50.13 | michaelh2 | worst ST movie was the whale one...... |
| 05:50.47 | captain_proton | hmm... |
| 05:51.15 | michaelh2 | just gotta figure out the blinking lights.. then everythings ok |
| 05:51.16 | captain_proton | erg |
| 05:51.18 | TimRiker | er that's doomsday machine. sorry |
| 05:51.25 | captain_proton | don't wanna have to expand to 4 categories just for that one |
| 05:51.56 | TimRiker | captain_proton: I think it's a "c" with a loose definition of "capture" |
| 05:52.07 | captain_proton | TimRiker: yeah, probably |
| 05:52.29 | captain_proton | i guess there's also the one with captain pike, but that can be considered as an extension of the cage, which fits into "b" |
| 05:53.13 | sussudio | d) holodeck crap episode |
| 05:53.21 | captain_proton | sussudio: we're talking TOS here |
| 05:53.31 | michaelh2 | ooooooh nooooooo we're stuck in the holodeck |
| 05:53.35 | captain_proton | TNG needs a whole new set of categories |
| 05:53.47 | sussudio | e) crew does violates several temporal things, screws up future, etc |
| 05:53.48 | michaelh2 | ooohhhhhh noooooo createure runs amok in holodeck |
| 05:54.03 | scanline | f) "oh no the holodeck is real now!" episode |
| 05:54.24 | captain_proton | g) wesley coming-of-age episode |
| 05:54.37 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 05:54.38 | sussudio | i like the "11 ways to kill wesley" thing |
| 05:54.41 | michaelh2 | I like how you just have to "emit some particles" to travel back in time |
| 05:54.54 | sussudio | the one with the 'tribble stuffing' et al |
| 05:55.44 | captain_proton | i'm so ambivalent about 1st season |
| 05:55.52 | captain_proton | because on the one hand it has tasha |
| 05:56.01 | captain_proton | and on the other it has the highest number of (g)s |
| 05:57.44 | michaelh2 | tasha looks like some butchy tennis player :) |
| 05:58.01 | jslagle | Yeah |
| 05:58.05 | jslagle | She does. |
| 05:58.24 | michaelh2 | I'll take that one telepath person anyday.... :) |
| 05:58.36 | jslagle | troi? |
| 05:58.41 | michaelh2 | yeppers |
| 05:58.54 | michaelh2 | just need a gag or something :) |
| 05:59.24 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:00.47 | michaelh2 | so do you all not mind only getting a few hours sleep ? :) |
| 06:01.07 | Patlabor221 | cap, admin changes are in the asgard CVS version of BZ for your testing |
| 06:01.35 | captain_proton | michaelh2: i catch up on the weekends :) |
| 06:01.54 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: is it "done" ? |
| 06:02.12 | michaelh2 | asgard? |
| 06:02.22 | TimRiker | which st has the green head that turns out to be a kid? |
| 06:02.40 | Patlabor221 | it has everything but the kick after x time with no identify |
| 06:02.45 | captain_proton | TimRiker: probably TOS, i haven't yet worked through all of them recently |
| 06:02.51 | sussudio | TimRiker: the tholian web? |
| 06:04.09 | Patlabor221 | it has /register /identify /setpass /setgroup /removegroup /grouplist /groupperms /showgroup and /ghost, and all the pemision splits |
| 06:04.10 | sussudio | TimRiker: "the corbomite maneuver" |
| 06:04.59 | Patlabor221 | so it has all the basic features needed to be used |
| 06:05.11 | captain_proton | TimRiker: do you mean the blue floaty blob? |
| 06:05.13 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: what does ghost do? |
| 06:05.31 | Patlabor221 | if someone is on using your registed nick you can kick them |
| 06:05.39 | fiberchunks | oh, ic |
| 06:05.49 | Patlabor221 | just like ghost here |
| 06:05.57 | captain_proton | or you can kill off a "ghost" left behind if you get disconnected |
| 06:06.03 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 06:06.08 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 06:06.12 | fiberchunks | nice feature |
| 06:06.16 | Patlabor221 | tho since you can't change nicks in game it gets odd |
| 06:06.36 | fiberchunks | sounds like the beginning of karma :) |
| 06:06.44 | Patlabor221 | the server can also speficy 3 database files |
| 06:06.57 | Patlabor221 | password db, user db, and group db |
| 06:07.20 | fiberchunks | flat-file, or real db? |
| 06:07.30 | Patlabor221 | just flat text file for now |
| 06:07.58 | Patlabor221 | would like to make it be able to commect to mysql or something as an option |
| 06:08.10 | Patlabor221 | but that can come later |
| 06:08.11 | fiberchunks | do you hash the passwds on entry / registration? |
| 06:08.18 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 06:08.20 | scanline | libdb is easy and effective |
| 06:08.22 | Patlabor221 | it's a server only change |
| 06:08.33 | Patlabor221 | this would work with e2 |
| 06:09.24 | Patlabor221 | I"m sure there are some good DBlibs that can be used |
| 06:10.09 | Patlabor221 | this implementation is based on nickserv and chanserv here. where it's all handled by text |
| 06:10.22 | fiberchunks | hey all you code wizards -- I'm having trouble with an emerge, and was wondering if you could look at the error? |
| 06:10.52 | michaelh2 | abra cadabra |
| 06:11.25 | Patlabor221 | Darkness beyond cryimson blood that flows.... |
| 06:11.48 | michaelh2 | it would probably take too long to drive over there |
| 06:11.58 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 06:12.19 | fiberchunks | nm, there are a whole bunch of errors (trying to emerge celestia and check it out) |
| 06:12.53 | michaelh2 | I'm off to bed...... |
| 06:12.59 | fiberchunks | from glext.h function foo 'redclared as different kind of symbol' |
| 06:14.16 | TimRiker | hmm... it's the skinny old green face that is shown during the credits. |
| 06:14.18 | fiberchunks | and this: /usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl.h:2417: previous declaration of `void |
| 06:14.18 | fiberchunks | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.19 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 06:14.54 | captain_proton | TimRiker: how does one get a diff between the current revision and when the sources were first imported? |
| 06:15.29 | TimRiker | huh |
| 06:15.42 | TimRiker | you mean 1.7c or so? |
| 06:15.56 | captain_proton | i mean in Patlabor221's separate cvs server |
| 06:16.08 | TimRiker | ah, |
| 06:16.16 | sussudio | <sussudio> TimRiker: "the corbomite maneuver" |
| 06:16.27 | TimRiker | find the date of the first commit and diff my date? -D |
| 06:16.32 | Patlabor221 | cap that won't work |
| 06:16.45 | Patlabor221 | I checked it in after I made part of the changes |
| 06:16.46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: why not |
| 06:16.54 | Patlabor221 | so the first verison isn't clean |
| 06:16.54 | captain_proton | well blah |
| 06:16.59 | sussudio | the kid is clint howard, ron howard's bro |
| 06:17.03 | Patlabor221 | it's one file, just diffit |
| 06:17.12 | captain_proton | just bzfs? |
| 06:17.16 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 06:17.35 | Patlabor221 | there are changes in scenerenderer, but they are for another thing |
| 06:18.44 | captain_proton | ok, this is mergable |
| 06:18.56 | TimRiker | sussudio: ah! yep. that's the one. I have not seen that episode in a long time. |
| 06:19.02 | Patlabor221 | yeah it was from a realy new cvs when I did it |
| 06:19.05 | Patlabor221 | shoudl nto be that bad |
| 06:19.27 | Patlabor221 | fiber, sounds like you have the arb stuff defined in multiple headers |
| 06:19.46 | Patlabor221 | ir you have a mix of gl 1.3 and 1.4 |
| 06:20.02 | fiberchunks | well, i don't -- celestia does :) -- i'm getting a newer version right now -- see if that fixes it |
| 06:20.16 | Noodleman | squishy ninja pigeon cheeks of doom |
| 06:20.19 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you forget |
| 06:20.27 | captain_proton | i attacked CVS this weekend :) |
| 06:20.42 | Patlabor221 | yes, but but the only thing shoudl be those things |
| 06:20.51 | Patlabor221 | so that's your own fault :) |
| 06:21.19 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:21.40 | Patlabor221 | Source of all power, crimson fire buring bright! Gather together in my hand and become an inferno... BURST FLARE |
| 06:21.49 | Patlabor221 | there fiber that shoudl fix it |
| 06:21.52 | Patlabor221 | or set it on fire. |
| 06:22.07 | Patlabor221 | I knew you would |
| 06:22.22 | captain_proton | gotta keep those coding styles consistent within the source |
| 06:22.34 | Patlabor221 | then it shall never change |
| 06:23.15 | TimRiker | is there no $TOP or similar in automake? |
| 06:24.25 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: nobody except you wants hungarian notation in the source |
| 06:24.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah I know |
| 06:24.43 | Patlabor221 | just habit |
| 06:24.48 | TimRiker | a bad one |
| 06:24.57 | Patlabor221 | it's not full hungarian |
| 06:24.59 | Patlabor221 | that's nasty |
| 06:25.03 | captain_proton | right |
| 06:25.06 | captain_proton | just enough to be irritating |
| 06:25.08 | Patlabor221 | and I don't see how an extra character is bad |
| 06:25.27 | Patlabor221 | or does it fill your 80 character terminals? :) |
| 06:25.51 | captain_proton | hah |
| 06:27.00 | TimRiker | n it's fine |
| 06:27.08 | Patlabor221 | I can just name everything x,x1,x2 if you want :) |
| 06:27.10 | TimRiker | n one you train yourself |
| 06:27.15 | TimRiker | n to ignore it |
| 06:27.25 | TimRiker | n but then why put it there in the first place? |
| 06:27.31 | TimRiker | n it's just annoying. |
| 06:27.38 | Patlabor221 | it's our standards at work |
| 06:28.05 | TimRiker | you should ignore them at work. it's the only way they'll change, right? |
| 06:28.06 | Patlabor221 | for all the workd I've ever done we've allways put i,f,p,o, andC |
| 06:28.24 | Patlabor221 | I think they make it easyer to see what the variable is. |
| 06:28.55 | Patlabor221 | when you have a lot of data of difrent types that refer to the same thing |
| 06:29.17 | Patlabor221 | I thought all linux people used magents on flopys to edit :) |
| 06:30.12 | Patlabor221 | I just perfer it, but if you don't want it, you don't get it. your right. |
| 06:31.07 | Patlabor221 | tho I realy don't like the if(){ thing |
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| 06:33.19 | Patlabor221 | damn the gimp installer lied to me. |
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| 06:49.06 | captain_proton | / groups |
| 06:49.06 | captain_proton | / none -- no rights, just play |
| 06:49.06 | captain_proton | / superAdmin -- all permisions |
| 06:49.06 | captain_proton | / normalPlayer -- ghost, idle, lag, listPerms, flagHistory ( this is the normal default ) |
| 06:49.06 | captain_proton | / refAdmin -- player + showOthers, flagUp, flagShow, lagWarn, Countdown, endGame, playerList, info |
| 06:49.07 | captain_proton | / copAdmin -- ref + Kick, ban, banlist, unban, removePerms, setPerms |
| 06:49.09 | captain_proton | / trustedAdmin -- copAdmin + setAll |
| 06:49.11 | captain_proton | ^^ are those hardcoded in? |
| 06:49.43 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 06:49.46 | Patlabor221 | just comments |
| 06:50.10 | Patlabor221 | I was going to make them in the enumeration, but then went for the named group thing |
| 06:51.13 | captain_proton | what is the function of tmStringMap |
| 06:51.18 | captain_proton | oh wait typedef :) |
| 06:51.25 | captain_proton | nevermind, being stupid |
| 06:52.24 | Patlabor221 | to make it easyer to read :) |
| 06:52.56 | captain_proton | i'm pulling those out for now |
| 06:53.15 | Patlabor221 | of course youare |
| 06:53.19 | captain_proton | after this release we can take stock of all those types of typedefs we need |
| 06:53.26 | Patlabor221 | I am going to kill this ssh |
| 06:53.31 | captain_proton | and get some sort of consistent naming scheme set up |
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| 06:55.47 | captain_proton | hiya MrApathyCream |
| 06:56.46 | MrApathyCream | hey |
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| 08:16.40 | captain_proton | 'night folks |
| 08:17.21 | larsl | Morning. |
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| 15:39.15 | captain_proton | hi ho, hi ho, its off to work i go |
| 15:39.42 | Mayhem | with a shovel and a spade and a hand grenade |
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| 15:40.26 | doughecka | greetings |
| 15:40.58 | Mayhem | welcome |
| 15:43.11 | Nidhoggr | hrm. larsl, how do you do the controls for messaging people in the new client if you are using xterm? |
| 15:43.48 | larsl | I've never tried it in xterm... don't the arrow keys work? |
| 15:43.56 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 15:44.08 | larsl | That's odd, it works in gnome-terminal. |
| 15:44.31 | larsl | I'll get xterm and try it. |
| 15:44.44 | Nidhoggr | okie. |
| 15:45.59 | larsl | It works for me, using xterm 172. |
| 15:46.31 | Mayhem | what is your TERM variable set to? |
| 15:46.46 | larsl | xterm |
| 15:46.48 | Nidhoggr | TERM=xterm |
| 15:46.53 | larsl | Both in gnome-terminal and xterm. |
| 15:46.56 | Mayhem | *shrug* |
| 15:47.15 | Nidhoggr | it doesn't recognize function keys or arrow keys for some reason. |
| 15:47.45 | Nidhoggr | but arrow keys work for command history |
| 15:47.55 | Nidhoggr | in the shell |
| 15:48.31 | larsl | I might have done something wrong in the curses initialization. |
| 15:49.13 | Nidhoggr | is there a way to message someone directly without using the arrows? |
| 15:49.24 | larsl | No, not now. |
| 15:49.28 | Nidhoggr | okie |
| 15:49.58 | Nidhoggr | if you are interested in an account on my server to work out the bugs, you're more than welcome. |
| 15:50.02 | larsl | Does it print any control characters on the input line when you use the arrow keys? |
| 15:50.08 | Nidhoggr | nope. |
| 15:50.10 | Nidhoggr | nothing |
| 15:50.25 | larsl | So it simpli ignores them. Weird. |
| 15:50.30 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 15:51.51 | larsl | I really need to study now, I have an exam on thursday. If I can get an account on your server to test it later, that would probably make it a lot easier to find the problem. |
| 15:52.24 | Nidhoggr | cool. I'll create the account, and message you the details. I don't want to make you fail your exam :) |
| 15:53.10 | larsl | Great. =) |
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| 16:16.13 | Nidhoggr | hi prot |
| 16:23.41 | patlabor221 | nid, if you want to try out the admin stuff, I think cap was merging it into a normal version. |
| 16:23.56 | Nidhoggr | which admin stuff? |
| 16:24.16 | patlabor221 | the one where you don't need to use /password anymore |
| 16:24.20 | patlabor221 | where people register |
| 16:24.26 | Nidhoggr | hrm.. how much stuff is done on it? |
| 16:24.34 | patlabor221 | all the basic features |
| 16:25.25 | Nidhoggr | when it's merged and ready, let me know, and I'll start testing. :) |
| 16:25.26 | patlabor221 | lets see it has /register /identify /ghost /setgroup /removegroup /showgroup /grouplist /groupperms |
| 16:25.28 | Nidhoggr | what isn't done yet? |
| 16:25.54 | Nidhoggr | so just the registration/user editing stuff is done so far? |
| 16:26.17 | patlabor221 | there isn't a way to set explicid allow or deny permisions on a single person in game, it's all based on groups, and there isn't a seting to autokick if they haven't identified in X time |
| 16:26.28 | patlabor221 | well and the server keeps track of it all |
| 16:26.36 | patlabor221 | and all the permisions are split up |
| 16:26.47 | patlabor221 | so you can make a "cop" group and give them ban and kick |
| 16:26.51 | patlabor221 | but not the othe5s |
| 16:27.10 | Nidhoggr | cool. |
| 16:27.12 | patlabor221 | so the internals are all set for full user based access permisions. |
| 16:27.20 | Nidhoggr | excellent :) |
| 16:27.35 | Nidhoggr | how is the data stored? |
| 16:27.40 | patlabor221 | text files |
| 16:27.46 | patlabor221 | for now |
| 16:28.17 | patlabor221 | you give the server -passdb -userdb and -groupdb paramaters with the files |
| 16:28.26 | Nidhoggr | cool. |
| 16:30.40 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/groups.txt <- sample group file |
| 16:31.16 | Nidhoggr | looks pretty straight forward |
| 16:31.20 | patlabor221 | it is |
| 16:31.35 | patlabor221 | I'm going to make a list of all the commands and the perms |
| 16:32.22 | Nidhoggr | has anyone looked into using autoconf for the makefile, and ./configure options? |
| 16:32.39 | Nidhoggr | because these things could become choices in the ./configure |
| 16:38.20 | prot-work | which things could become choices? |
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| 16:38.34 | Nidhoggr | the whole registry thing |
| 16:38.36 | prot-work | Nidhoggr: and latest cvs has autoconf ;) |
| 16:38.42 | Nidhoggr | oh, excellent! |
| 16:38.51 | prot-work | why would that need to be a ./configure option? |
| 16:38.57 | prot-work | seems like command line options work well enough... |
| 16:39.03 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:40.50 | Nidhoggr | sourceforge is really going downhill with cvs lately. |
| 16:45.00 | JBDiGriz | Not rebellion, United Assistance! :) |
| 16:46.43 | prot-work | heh |
| 16:52.27 | patlabor221 | sio we arn't blowing up the deathstar? |
| 16:52.43 | prot-work | dunno yet ;) |
| 16:53.30 | JBDiGriz | Not until it starts taking out planets. |
| 16:54.00 | patlabor221 | why didn't they make the entire deathstar outa the same stuff the trash compactor was made outa? |
| 16:54.40 | JBDiGriz | Stop trying to make sense out of the movies! :) |
| 16:55.22 | JBDiGriz | You'll ruin all of my illusions. |
| 16:55.36 | Nidhoggr | we saw Nemo last night. it was really funny. |
| 16:55.55 | Nidhoggr | Ellen Degeneres' character steals the show. |
| 16:56.36 | Nidhoggr | that was after we had sushi at our favorite sushi restaraunt. mmmmmmmmmm. |
| 16:59.06 | prot-work | hm |
| 16:59.11 | prot-work | i may be doing the raw fish thing this weekend |
| 16:59.37 | Nidhoggr | it was all really fresh and yummy last night. |
| 17:00.00 | prot-work | yay for having a real reason to use `yes` |
| 17:01.52 | scanline | ha |
| 17:03.01 | prot-work | thats one use i suppose |
| 17:03.17 | prot-work | though netcatting to a chargen port is niftier :) |
| 17:03.20 | scanline | yes>/dev/ttyS0, then grab an oscilloscope |
| 17:03.41 | Nidhoggr | I use "yes" to send really big emails to people. :) j/k |
| 17:03.56 | scanline | prot-work: is yes the client or the server? |
| 17:04.28 | prot-work | um, none |
| 17:04.32 | prot-work | for testing serial ports |
| 17:04.33 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/BZAdminCommands.txt <- Some docs on it. |
| 17:04.40 | prot-work | you netcat as a client to a chargen port |
| 17:04.44 | prot-work | and redirect to ttyS0 :) |
| 17:05.12 | scanline | oh, ok |
| 17:05.13 | scanline | :) |
| 17:06.44 | prot-work | anybody care to tackle the goo logic for detecting compiler on solaris? |
| 17:08.37 | prot-work | thats right, not glue logic, goo logic :) |
| 17:09.37 | prot-work | hmm |
| 17:09.46 | prot-work | i never noticed that this digital camera had an optical viewfinder |
| 17:10.34 | Nidhoggr | that's all my digital camera has is the optical viewfinder. the lcd is only for image reviewing and setup options. |
| 17:11.39 | Nidhoggr | but the viewfinder has 7 autofocus points, so I don't mind. :) |
| 17:12.24 | prot-work | patlabor221: can you add that to the bzfs man page? |
| 17:13.29 | patlabor221 | as it sits? or would someone want to proofread it? |
| 17:13.35 | patlabor221 | it is ME your talking about here |
| 17:13.55 | prot-work | as it sits is ok, since you'll produce a patch which can then be proofread |
| 17:14.26 | prot-work | the different pieces will need to be put in the correct sections |
| 17:14.46 | patlabor221 | I've never been able to sucsesfully make a patch |
| 17:15.06 | prot-work | make the changes to a clean checkout of bzflag |
| 17:15.09 | prot-work | then run 'cvs diff -u' |
| 17:15.13 | prot-work | and you'll get a patch |
| 17:15.23 | patlabor221 | I don't use a command line cvs :) |
| 17:15.54 | prot-work | just use the command line cvs for the diff |
| 17:15.56 | patlabor221 | ehh I'll just have to put it on the leenox machine |
| 17:16.19 | prot-work | all cvs clients keep the same metadata on the filesystem |
| 17:16.21 | patlabor221 | have to wait till tongiht, no leenox machine here |
| 17:16.51 | patlabor221 | didn't you merge the code in last night? |
| 17:16.54 | patlabor221 | to something? |
| 17:17.09 | prot-work | i've been working on it |
| 17:17.12 | prot-work | its a lot of code :) |
| 17:17.17 | JBDiGriz | Has anyone come up with a cvs client which works as well as the command line? |
| 17:17.17 | patlabor221 | yeah it is |
| 17:17.25 | prot-work | and none of it is in the bzflag coding styles :) |
| 17:17.48 | patlabor221 | you sure you want me to make the patch then? |
| 17:17.59 | prot-work | you'll just be making a patch for the man page |
| 17:18.00 | prot-work | :P |
| 17:18.02 | patlabor221 | I use TortoiseCVS |
| 17:18.04 | patlabor221 | ahhhhhhh |
| 17:18.35 | Nidhoggr | dude.. that is the first time I've ever seen you spell that right. *snort* |
| 17:18.47 | patlabor221 | I copied it :) |
| 17:18.51 | scanline | JBDiGriz: the standard CVS client works pretty well on the command line... |
| 17:18.52 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha |
| 17:19.03 | prot-work | tourtice :) |
| 17:19.12 | patlabor221 | it does not look like it sounds |
| 17:19.19 | Nidhoggr | no, it doesn't |
| 17:19.42 | prot-work | parametric? you mean phonetic? |
| 17:19.51 | patlabor221 | same thing :) |
| 17:19.56 | JBDiGriz | I use the command line client as well. Other people want a GUI, and start complaining about it though. |
| 17:20.02 | patlabor221 | just a difrent way of looking at it. |
| 17:22.03 | Nidhoggr | I increased stealth and cloak on secretplace to make GM a little more of a challenge. :) |
| 17:22.19 | scanline | hmm.. it has been months since I've watched office space |
| 17:23.41 | patlabor221 | well cellyboy is back |
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| 17:25.08 | Nidhoggr | what's he doing now? |
| 17:25.12 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 17:25.20 | Nidhoggr | hi n00dle |
| 17:25.25 | patlabor221 | seems he finished re0installing windows |
| 17:25.30 | scanline | We call this.. MR. Noodle! |
| 17:25.38 | scanline | haha |
| 17:25.45 | scanline | so that little perl script did the trick ;) |
| 17:25.51 | patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 17:25.54 | Noodleman | patlabor221, Nidhoggr: you talking about Cell? |
| 17:26.11 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:26.21 | Noodleman | muwahahahaha! |
| 17:26.25 | patlabor221 | you can say hi to him, he's on |
| 17:26.35 | Noodleman | what nick? |
| 17:26.47 | patlabor221 | cell |
| 17:27.46 | Noodleman | where can i get that admin proggie i've been hearing about? |
| 17:28.07 | patlabor221 | the text client? |
| 17:28.11 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 17:28.21 | patlabor221 | I think it's in cvs or in patches |
| 17:28.30 | JBDiGriz | Noodleman: How are the web site updates going? I'm still having problems with the online players page. |
| 17:29.00 | Noodleman | i'm having problems with the command line version of php |
| 17:29.16 | Noodleman | there's a php script that runs in cron |
| 17:29.21 | Noodleman | no workie |
| 17:29.23 | Nidhoggr | it's in patches. |
| 17:29.35 | Nidhoggr | it's handy. |
| 17:39.18 | Noodleman | patlabor221: what kinda textures do you need? i could try my hand |
| 17:39.55 | patlabor221 | ohh this guy has them allready and they are NICE, but basicly higher res ones for BZ. |
| 17:41.18 | Noodleman | i'm THIS close to rewriting s.b.o in perl || |
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| 18:11.05 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: 'solaris fixes (network headers are surprisingly strict)' in bzflag/src/net multicast.cxx udpnetwork.cxx |
| 18:11.06 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: 'solaris fixes (network headers are surprisingly strict)' in bzflag/src/bzflag ServerLink.cxx |
| 18:12.54 | *** join/#bzflag TD (~mike@bdsl.66.13.154.244.gte.net) |
| 18:13.16 | TD | hi... please don't put file names in the CIA message, otherwise you'll spam the channel for every directory touched |
| 18:13.43 | TD | ie: |
| 18:13.47 | TD | 13:11 < CIA> bzflag: commit by davidtrowbridge: 'solaris fixes (network headers are surprisingly strict)' in bzflag/src/net multicast.cxx udpnetwork.cxx |
| 18:13.50 | TD | 13:11 < CIA> bzflag: commit by davidtrowbridge: 'solaris fixes (network headers are surprisingly strict)' in bzflag/src/bzflag ServerLink.cxx |
| 18:13.56 | TD | ta |
| 18:14.02 | *** part/#bzflag TD (~mike@bdsl.66.13.154.244.gte.net) |
| 18:16.09 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: 'making TD happy...' in CVSROOT ciabot loginfo |
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| 18:20.35 | patlabor221 | td? |
| 18:20.39 | prot-work | can a lunix chicken check to see if it compiles cleanly? |
| 18:21.17 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.56 | Chestal | seems to work, did not do a full recompile, just cvs up; make |
| 18:22.15 | Chestal | what did you change? socklen_t stuff? |
| 18:23.43 | Chestal | it's been some time snce I looked into that. IIRC, socklen_t was introduced to Posix (?) several years ago, but on most systems the protoype for the functions depends on some preprocessor macros |
| 18:23.49 | Chestal | liek POSIX_SOURCE or whatever |
| 18:28.11 | prot-work | yeah, something like that |
| 18:28.17 | prot-work | solaris protos are very strict though |
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| 19:09.55 | doughecka | greetings |
| 19:21.01 | prot-work | TimRiker: poke |
| 19:27.03 | Nidhoggr | re larsl |
| 19:27.43 | larsl | It's amazing how stuff that probably is really interesting can be extraordinary boring when you have to learn it all in a couple of days. |
| 19:29.09 | larsl | prot-work: The net fix works fine on my system. |
| 19:34.02 | prot-work | arg |
| 19:39.24 | Nidhoggr | anyone see a bug where a client's tank goes higher and higher as they activate their shockwave? |
| 19:50.15 | JBDiGriz | Does kicking sourceforge help? |
| 19:51.13 | prot-work | not with what i'm trying to do |
| 19:51.52 | JBDiGriz | I'm trying to login and download the source. sourceforge [nr] |
| 19:53.31 | Nidhoggr | sourceforge was really icky for me this morning. took a long time. |
| 19:55.20 | prot-work | bleh |
| 19:55.21 | prot-work | its down now |
| 20:12.41 | hardwire | TimRiker: you still following up on kernel development on the mips qube equipment? |
| 20:15.12 | larsl | Nidhoggr: The arrow keys work for me when I run bzadmin on your server. |
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| 20:32.37 | Nidhoggr | I wonder why they don't work for me. :( |
| 20:33.14 | Nidhoggr | what are you running it on? xterm or gnome-terminal, etc? |
| 20:33.26 | larsl | gnome-terminal. |
| 20:33.30 | larsl | I'll try xterm. |
| 20:33.43 | Nidhoggr | I tried doing that. it's probably my machine at work or something. |
| 20:33.54 | Nidhoggr | I will try it from home, too. |
| 20:34.53 | Nidhoggr | it's probably a stupid xwindow variable or something. |
| 20:35.47 | larsl | Yes, it sounds as if our keyboards are configured differently. |
| 20:36.12 | Nidhoggr | maybe it's the default US keymap or something. |
| 20:36.16 | larsl | Does it work in a virtual terminal? |
| 20:36.45 | Nidhoggr | let me test... |
| 20:37.56 | Nidhoggr | nope. switch to text terminal with ctl-alt-f2 and log into remote server, and no arrow keys work. |
| 20:38.04 | Nidhoggr | but I can use command history. |
| 20:38.16 | Nidhoggr | so I know those work. |
| 20:38.34 | larsl | F5 and F6 didn't work either? |
| 20:38.43 | larsl | Doh, of course they don't if you can't select a target. |
| 20:38.48 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 20:39.36 | Nidhoggr | it's pretty strange. |
| 20:40.40 | larsl | You could try replacing KEY_RIGHT with whatever the ASCII value for tab is in CursesUI.cxx, then you should be able to change targets using tab. |
| 20:40.51 | Nidhoggr | true |
| 20:42.42 | Nidhoggr | when you do a control-V then up arrow, what is the sequence that you see? |
| 20:42.56 | Nidhoggr | at a bash prompt |
| 20:43.13 | larsl | ^[[A |
| 20:43.17 | Nidhoggr | same here |
| 20:43.26 | Nidhoggr | so we are mapping the same keys. |
| 20:43.38 | Nidhoggr | it's just not following when the program executes. |
| 20:44.47 | Nidhoggr | hrm.. maybe I can run strace on it while I try it. |
| 20:46.41 | Nidhoggr | okay.. it's working now. |
| 20:46.58 | Nidhoggr | it was running the wrong binary. *blush* |
| 20:47.17 | Nidhoggr | my path was set to . first. |
| 20:47.41 | JBDiGriz | How did you make your nick start blinking in red? |
| 20:48.05 | JBDiGriz | I'm kidding! :) |
| 20:53.32 | larsl | Hehe. =) |
| 21:01.27 | Nidhoggr | my background supports for my photo studio are supposed to arrive tomorrow. *cheer* |
| 21:01.46 | Nidhoggr | what's the catch? ;) |
| 21:02.46 | patlabor221 | nothing |
| 21:02.51 | patlabor221 | I went to the store and got them |
| 21:03.20 | patlabor221 | I belong to there "Frequent shoper card" thingy, and I turned in there rewards certificate things |
| 21:03.21 | Nidhoggr | wow. |
| 21:03.29 | patlabor221 | had 95$ in then |
| 21:03.31 | Nidhoggr | that's pretty darned cool. |
| 21:04.03 | patlabor221 | yup |
| 21:04.21 | patlabor221 | actualy 5 movies and a cd :) |
| 21:04.42 | fiberchunks | fargin turd mongers :\ |
| 21:06.32 | fiberchunks | good evening all :) |
| 21:06.52 | patlabor221 | problmes with the sanitaion dept |
| 21:07.40 | fiberchunks | yes, the human gene pool is getting mighty unhealthy these days -- needs to be 'skimmed' from time to time |
| 21:08.28 | fiberchunks | I have a deep hatred and mistrust for anyone who drives a semi now : |
| 21:08.37 | prot-work | everyone just ignore the test patch/bug that i created |
| 21:08.39 | patlabor221 | understandable |
| 21:09.12 | fiberchunks | how goes the release? |
| 21:11.55 | patlabor221 | anyone need the soundtrack to the certan animated movies surounding a certan movie that "knows kung fo" ? |
| 21:12.40 | fiberchunks | hehe |
| 21:12.48 | fiberchunks | 'show me' |
| 21:13.13 | patlabor221 | it came with the dvd |
| 21:13.22 | fiberchunks | really - cool |
| 21:13.41 | fiberchunks | 'do you think that's air you're breathing now?' .......... 'hm' |
| 21:13.43 | patlabor221 | one of the 5 movies for 10$ |
| 21:14.06 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 21:14.46 | fiberchunks | paging agent smith, paging agent smith -- agent smith to the construct please ... |
| 21:15.27 | fiberchunks | man, movies play on this box sooooo much better than they do on my standalone player :\ |
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| 21:18.07 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 21:18.36 | patlabor221 | http://bakadigital.com/darkmoor-noshare/soundtracks/animatrix/ |
| 21:18.47 | prot-work | ooo |
| 21:18.56 | patlabor221 | thought you would like that |
| 21:19.37 | fiberchunks | nice |
| 21:22.44 | fiberchunks | any new and exciting things in bzflag - 'the patch release' yet? |
| 21:22.52 | fiberchunks | rather, since last night |
| 21:23.15 | patlabor221 | I think it should be Kung Fuu rlease |
| 21:23.34 | fiberchunks | kung foo |
| 21:23.38 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 21:23.58 | fiberchunks | the 'you cannot handle my wu-tang clan style' release |
| 21:23.58 | prot-work | fiberchunks: not really |
| 21:24.02 | JBDiGriz | Hooray, sourceforge is finally back! |
| 21:24.14 | prot-work | unless you consider "builds properly on solaris" to be new and exciting |
| 21:24.21 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 21:24.29 | patlabor221 | I got the login stuff working |
| 21:24.41 | fiberchunks | cool, so the admin patch is fully in there? |
| 21:24.54 | patlabor221 | as much as I think I'm gonna do for this release |
| 21:24.59 | patlabor221 | I made a doc |
| 21:25.11 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/BZAdminCommands.txt |
| 21:25.28 | fiberchunks | readng |
| 21:25.57 | patlabor221 | WTF!!>!>! where did this come from "Power rangerd Orchestra - go go power rangers.mp3" |
| 21:25.58 | fiberchunks | line breaks ? |
| 21:26.11 | patlabor221 | I just dumped it from word |
| 21:27.19 | patlabor221 | wow the gutarist is having WAY too much fun on this |
| 21:27.52 | fiberchunks | do 'other special characters' get filtered and converted -- thought I saw a patch concerning that on sf? |
| 21:28.02 | patlabor221 | no |
| 21:28.11 | patlabor221 | it'll just fail on the register |
| 21:28.37 | patlabor221 | these are characters that are vaild for a nick, but not for registration |
| 21:28.44 | patlabor221 | : and " specificly |
| 21:28.53 | fiberchunks | ah -- hrm, what if you want to register, say "[~T~] Fiberchunks" |
| 21:29.13 | patlabor221 | realy as long as it dosn't have a " or a : your cool |
| 21:29.22 | fiberchunks | gotcha |
| 21:30.20 | fiberchunks | does it handle esc characters, or fail them (i hope) |
| 21:30.22 | patlabor221 | or a S |
| 21:30.25 | patlabor221 | there is a bug with S |
| 21:30.32 | patlabor221 | but I think people can just work around it |
| 21:30.39 | fiberchunks | $ |
| 21:36.57 | fiberchunks | patlabor221: if i am in an 'admin' group, and i register / validate -- does my validation automatically do the /password blah command (it seems that way, but i am unsure) |
| 21:37.49 | fiberchunks | oh, never mind -- yeah it does |
| 21:57.33 | patlabor221 | heh, I took a "What OS are you" personality quiz and I turned up debian |
| 21:57.46 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 21:58.02 | patlabor221 | fiber, it will sett all your perms so you will be able to do everything |
| 21:58.12 | patlabor221 | realy there is no need for /password with this |
| 21:58.34 | patlabor221 | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/01/os_quiz.php |
| 21:59.04 | patlabor221 | or if you wanted you could make a subadmin group that has less permisions |
| 21:59.33 | patlabor221 | like all but shutdown the server, say |
| 22:00.10 | patlabor221 | the cool thing is you can't add people to a group you don't belong to yourself, so ther will be no "self promotion" |
| 22:00.42 | fiberchunks | nice |
| 22:01.48 | patlabor221 | unless you have the "Set everything" permision |
| 22:06.16 | scanline | hmm |
| 22:06.31 | patlabor221 | oooooooo |
| 22:06.38 | scanline | haha... "if you ended up with GNU/HURD it means you didn't answer all the questions." |
| 22:07.02 | patlabor221 | it's funny cus I was gonna try debian on the home machine |
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| 22:14.23 | CIA | Bug 748453: category->BZFlag group->ideas status->Pending resolution->None priority->2 |
| 22:19.45 | CIA | Bug 748453: category->BZEdit group->None status->Open priority->1 |
| 22:20.19 | Noodleman | someone is going to majorly get hurt |
| 22:20.39 | JBDiGriz | At least you weren't Windows ME! |
| 22:20.52 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 22:21.49 | patlabor221 | wow 95 |
| 22:22.03 | patlabor221 | I wonder what cap is |
| 22:22.07 | Noodleman | windows 95 is the best 9x windows out there :-) |
| 22:22.24 | Noodleman | as long as it has ie 5 on it |
| 22:22.46 | Noodleman | and as long as you don't need usb or dvd's |
| 22:22.52 | JBDiGriz | The software required Windows 95 or better ... |
| 22:22.52 | patlabor221 | and service pack 23 |
| 22:23.33 | prot-work | what i am? |
| 22:25.39 | patlabor221 | what OS |
| 22:25.40 | patlabor221 | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/01/os_quiz.php |
| 22:26.59 | fiberchunks | har! os2/warp |
| 22:28.43 | Noodleman | i redid it with the craziest answers and i came out as windows 1.0 :-) |
| 22:28.59 | JBDiGriz | We need an entry in the Centrum database for the results of the quiz. |
| 22:29.34 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.134.159) |
| 22:30.01 | prot-work | hahaha |
| 22:30.03 | fiberchunks | good idea |
| 22:30.10 | prot-work | "which episode of star wars is the best?" -> "spock's brain" |
| 22:30.47 | Noodleman | heh |
| 22:31.16 | prot-work | red hat lunix for me |
| 22:31.22 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 22:31.37 | fiberchunks | http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?t=687 |
| 22:32.47 | sussudio | :-B |
| 22:32.50 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: Do you want us all to reply? |
| 22:33.05 | fiberchunks | don't matter, do what you feel - just thought it'd be neat to see |
| 22:33.26 | JBDiGriz | It could rank as the most active thread for quite a while! |
| 22:34.15 | JBDiGriz | You didn't past the URL into the response! |
| 22:34.18 | sussudio | or if you don't want to bother.... http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/os/ |
| 22:35.50 | fiberchunks | yes i did |
| 22:36.48 | JBDiGriz | Sorry, I meant the OS2/warp result URL. I liked sussudio's pointer. |
| 22:37.13 | fiberchunks | just did that |
| 22:37.51 | JBDiGriz | Looks good! :) |
| 22:38.52 | sussudio | anyone got tips on loosening dot matrix printerheads that have been in the basement for the last 5 years or so? the needles seem to be kinda stuck |
| 22:39.09 | doughecka | the A+ hardware book says dont :P |
| 22:39.22 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 22:39.22 | | shut up doug |
| 22:39.56 | JBDiGriz | In this case, he might be right. On dot matrix printers, there used to be a lubricant in the ink. |
| 22:39.57 | sussudio | hmm dusty. |
| 22:40.20 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:41.40 | doughecka | it covered those too |
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| 22:42.26 | doughecka | .. |
| 22:42.39 | fiberchunks | the CIA is having issues |
| 22:42.46 | scanline | hmm... |
| 22:42.55 | doughecka | thats not news |
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| 22:42.58 | scanline | no, I restarted it on purpose to upgrade it |
| 22:42.58 | patlabor221 | it's the rebels sir... there here. |
| 22:43.09 | scanline | dunno why it restarted twice |
| 22:43.11 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 22:43.14 | patlabor221 | and they've got a flag. |
| 22:43.30 | prot-work | scanline: and -why- haven't you coded up a reset state that it can go into to reload all its classes? :) |
| 22:44.26 | scanline | it's not organized enough for that to work |
| 22:44.32 | prot-work | hehe |
| 22:46.35 | scanline | oh wait.. |
| 22:46.38 | scanline | that was dumb |
| 22:46.54 | scanline | I was trying to use the socket client to send a test message, but I used the bot itself instead |
| 22:47.08 | scanline | hm.. or something... |
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| 22:52.33 | CIA | This should only appear in #bzflag |
| 22:52.44 | CIA | Bug 748453: this is a test: category->BZFlag group->ideas status->Pending resolution->None priority->2 |
| 22:53.44 | CIA | Bug 748453: this is a test: category->BZFlag group->ideas status->Pending resolution->None priority->2 |
| 22:53.47 | prot-work | shabam |
| 22:55.19 | fiberchunks | ah, bzflag with music is nice :) |
| 22:55.50 | doughecka | bittorrent is cool |
| 22:55.57 | prot-work | time to go home |
| 22:57.29 | patlabor221 | whoot, got permision to use some kick ass textures in BZ &| screamers as long as the guys credits file goes with them :) |
| 22:58.29 | fiberchunks | patlabor221: where are they? |
| 22:59.55 | patlabor221 | let me get a link |
| 23:00.28 | patlabor221 | he made the textures I was using in the screamers demos |
| 23:00.58 | fiberchunks | well, that's mighty kind of him |
| 23:01.15 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:01.24 | fiberchunks | damn - i still can't believe my car is totalled :\ |
| 23:01.30 | doughecka | ouch, how? |
| 23:01.43 | fiberchunks | my girlfriend got run over by a semi this morning |
| 23:01.46 | patlabor221 | are the cops on the lookout for the guy? |
| 23:01.54 | patlabor221 | http://planetquake.com/hfx/textures.html |
| 23:01.55 | fiberchunks | yeah -- and the weigh stations, etc |
| 23:01.59 | doughecka | run.. over... |
| 23:02.05 | doughecka | ouch |
| 23:02.16 | patlabor221 | I hear a lot of stories about how they eventualy find these people |
| 23:02.18 | fiberchunks | wow -- those are real nice |
| 23:02.23 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:02.26 | fiberchunks | one can hope |
| 23:02.52 | fiberchunks | application of specific ones? I can easily see a teleporter texture there |
| 23:03.02 | doughecka | did the GF servive? |
| 23:03.10 | patlabor221 | there is a good one for the outside wall |
| 23:03.11 | fiberchunks | oh yeah -- she's fine |
| 23:03.17 | patlabor221 | the building roofs |
| 23:03.46 | fiberchunks | kinda gigeresque (/me loves gigers work) |
| 23:03.46 | patlabor221 | I think I can replace all the BZ textures with these |
| 23:03.52 | patlabor221 | some are |
| 23:04.04 | doughecka | those look familer |
| 23:04.06 | fiberchunks | middle one on the right, specifically |
| 23:04.14 | patlabor221 | of what page? |
| 23:04.19 | patlabor221 | there are 8 pages |
| 23:04.35 | doughecka | I converted them, so I had to download each one :P |
| 23:04.43 | patlabor221 | yeah |
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| 23:05.00 | patlabor221 | those are the same, he gave me real permision to use them :) |
| 23:05.06 | TheCataphract | hey all |
| 23:05.13 | doughecka | ooh |
| 23:05.26 | doughecka | thats one looong domain name there buddy |
| 23:05.28 | fiberchunks | like the ones with blood splattered about :) |
| 23:05.38 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:05.39 | patlabor221 | don't think they would fit BZ tho |
| 23:05.42 | patlabor221 | screamers sure |
| 23:05.52 | fiberchunks | depends if it's a 'kids' server or not :) |
| 23:06.13 | fiberchunks | make 'em walls textures from battles past ;) |
| 23:06.15 | doughecka | or better yet have the ability to swap textures |
| 23:06.15 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:06.19 | patlabor221 | screamers will not have so much of the "familay" feel |
| 23:06.32 | patlabor221 | doug, you mean decals? |
| 23:06.40 | doughecka | no |
| 23:06.42 | sussudio | pigcals |
| 23:06.58 | doughecka | like have an option where people can pick what texture package to load |
| 23:07.14 | patlabor221 | the map will specify the texture for each object |
| 23:07.27 | patlabor221 | the entire concept of "texture kits" is outdated |
| 23:07.50 | doughecka | er, in bzflag |
| 23:07.52 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:08.06 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:08.21 | patlabor221 | it's lame to have 6 textures |
| 23:08.26 | doughecka | this is in the protocol breaking version |
| 23:08.40 | fiberchunks | patlabor221: i know you were talking before (a while ago) bout the ability in screamers to do that -- is that some sort of plan for bz as well? |
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| 23:09.07 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:09.09 | TheCataphract | Hey is Bzgirl here? |
| 23:09.19 | fiberchunks | and if it is, is it server defined, or client defined? (i would imagine server defined, right?) |
| 23:09.25 | patlabor221 | the world class actualy started as a project for BZ |
| 23:09.26 | bzgirl | one sec...Cat |
| 23:09.31 | patlabor221 | map defined |
| 23:09.44 | TheCataphract | hey sure, Spiff is asking you about it already |
| 23:09.50 | fiberchunks | ah, so independent of the two |
| 23:10.03 | patlabor221 | the server specifes the map, map specs textures, if the client dosn't have/can't get the texture it uses a default. |
| 23:10.10 | fiberchunks | ic |
| 23:10.13 | fiberchunks | neat |
| 23:10.17 | patlabor221 | like real games |
| 23:10.56 | fiberchunks | if the client doesn't have that texture, but wants it, what happens then? can the client get that texture somewhere else? |
| 23:11.31 | fiberchunks | like a plugin or somesuch thang? |
| 23:13.15 | TheCataphract | c'ya all |
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| 23:58.31 | doughecka | speeding is bad :P |
