| 00:00.07 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 00:00.08 | bzgirl | did that return an error? |
| 00:00.26 | Skipp | i mean /dev/sda/memstick |
| 00:00.29 | Skipp | no error |
| 00:00.34 | dougheckaa | hahaha |
| 00:00.34 | dougheckaa | er |
| 00:00.36 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 00:00.37 | Skipp | i just don't know how to get to it |
| 00:00.49 | Skipp | i can't find it in the file browser |
| 00:00.52 | Noodleman | you can't mount it under /dev |
| 00:00.57 | Noodleman | at least i didn't think so |
| 00:01.02 | dougheckaa | mount /dev/sda /mnt/memstick? |
| 00:01.06 | bzgirl | you need to make a mount point first |
| 00:01.10 | dougheckaa | mkdir memstick first |
| 00:01.13 | bzgirl | yup |
| 00:01.55 | Skipp | k |
| 00:02.07 | Skipp | i did that in the command line |
| 00:02.18 | Skipp | now wha? |
| 00:02.21 | Skipp | what |
| 00:02.35 | bzgirl | you made the directory? or mounted it? |
| 00:02.40 | bzgirl | or both |
| 00:02.43 | Skipp | mounted it |
| 00:02.56 | bzgirl | cd /mnt/memstick |
| 00:02.58 | dougheckaa | cd /mnt/memstick; ls |
| 00:03.02 | bzgirl | ls |
| 00:03.09 | Skipp | do i need to mkdir /dev/sda/mnt/memstick? |
| 00:03.17 | bzgirl | no |
| 00:03.27 | dougheckaa | ack |
| 00:03.27 | bzgirl | mkdir /mnt/memstick |
| 00:03.34 | dougheckaa | forget about /dev/sda |
| 00:03.38 | dougheckaa | exept to mount it |
| 00:03.49 | Skipp | ok |
| 00:04.14 | dougheckaa | mkdir /mnt/memstick |
| 00:04.28 | dougheckaa | mount /dev/sda /mnt/memstick |
| 00:04.44 | Skipp | did that, now cp the /mnt/memstick |
| 00:04.47 | dougheckaa | you should go ask in #redhat |
| 00:05.00 | bzgirl | cd /mnt/memstick |
| 00:05.05 | bzgirl | then: ls |
| 00:05.15 | dougheckaa | they know this stuff like.. well.... the back of their optical mouse |
| 00:05.21 | bzgirl | see if your files are there |
| 00:05.36 | bzgirl | yeah #redhat might be good :) |
| 00:05.45 | Skipp | type what now? |
| 00:05.57 | bzgirl | cd /mnt/memstick |
| 00:06.04 | Skipp | did that |
| 00:06.07 | bzgirl | ls |
| 00:06.46 | Skipp | now i type ls |
| 00:06.51 | bzgirl | yep |
| 00:06.54 | Skipp | and should something happen? |
| 00:07.02 | bzgirl | ls means list |
| 00:07.10 | bzgirl | should list the files |
| 00:07.15 | Skipp | nothing happened |
| 00:07.23 | bzgirl | or it will show . and .. |
| 00:07.45 | bzgirl | means its either empty or not mounted correctly |
| 00:08.04 | dougheckaa | touch /mnt/memstick |
| 00:08.06 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 00:08.35 | bzgirl | he couldnt cd into it if it didnt exist |
| 00:08.59 | bzgirl | bzfranks demo is awsome btw |
| 00:09.14 | Skipp | so would the sda number be wrong? |
| 00:09.15 | dougheckaa | hehe |
| 00:09.24 | bzgirl | it might be |
| 00:09.28 | patlabor221 | well it still needs some work, but he's geting there :) |
| 00:09.36 | Skipp | because in the hardware browser it said it was under /dev/sda |
| 00:09.40 | bzgirl | the standard first usb port is sda1 |
| 00:09.43 | Skipp | i am very slow at his stuff |
| 00:09.48 | bzgirl | generally speaking |
| 00:10.01 | Skipp | so just /sda isn't a port |
| 00:10.34 | bzgirl | im not sure, under suse and debian and mandrake, it was always sda1 |
| 00:10.39 | bzgirl | thats all i know |
| 00:10.41 | bzgirl | :) |
| 00:11.18 | bzgirl | so id do: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1/ /mnt/memstick |
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| 00:11.50 | bzgirl | but you need to un mount it first if you are to try again |
| 00:12.02 | bzgirl | umount /mnt/memstick |
| 00:14.03 | bzgirl | patlabor221: the tanks really do have that floating feeling though, very cool :) |
| 00:16.56 | Skipp | * gives up |
| 00:17.18 | dougheckaa | ask in #redhat? |
| 00:17.19 | Skipp | thanks for the help anyways |
| 00:17.21 | dougheckaa | they know better :) |
| 00:17.30 | Skipp | same channel? |
| 00:17.30 | dougheckaa | or heck, in #linux |
| 00:17.35 | dougheckaa | same server |
| 00:17.39 | Skipp | ok |
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| 00:25.43 | patlabor221 | bzgirl: that they do. I am making some new models for him tho |
| 00:26.15 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/p2501/1.png |
| 00:26.32 | patlabor221 | I shoudl add you to the beta forum as well :) |
| 00:26.42 | bzgirl | ohh they look good |
| 00:27.12 | dougheckaa | anyone want to multiplay with me in p2501? |
| 00:27.12 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 00:27.14 | patlabor221 | his current models are how shall I say "not very well built" |
| 00:27.20 | bzgirl | :) |
| 00:27.27 | patlabor221 | doug there is no server with the release. |
| 00:27.31 | dougheckaa | oh? |
| 00:27.40 | bzgirl | yeah there is..isnt there? |
| 00:27.58 | bzgirl | in the readme he gave me theres directions to start a server |
| 00:28.10 | dougheckaa | nope |
| 00:28.12 | dougheckaa | no server |
| 00:28.25 | patlabor221 | there is no server execuatble |
| 00:28.32 | bzgirl | ahh no server exe |
| 00:28.35 | patlabor221 | and I can't get teh thing to build so I can't make them |
| 00:30.20 | patlabor221 | collisions are still wierd |
| 00:30.43 | patlabor221 | too many things where you can "hump" the object and climb up it |
| 00:31.11 | bzgirl | i like the soccer balls |
| 00:31.22 | bzgirl | you can boot them for miles :) |
| 00:31.37 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 00:31.54 | dougheckaa | with the missles |
| 00:31.57 | dougheckaa | they go far |
| 00:32.11 | patlabor221 | yeah he needs some dampening |
| 00:32.23 | dougheckaa | nooo, its cool! |
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| 00:33.11 | patlabor221 | well it may be a neat effect, but I don't think it's what he had in mind for gameplay. |
| 00:33.17 | dougheckaa | dsl must have dropped... must have... gotta call them |
| 00:33.33 | patlabor221 | your ISP sure does suck doug. |
| 00:33.44 | dougheckaa | indeed :P |
| 00:41.05 | patlabor221 | bzg you now have access to the beta forum |
| 00:42.18 | bzgirl | yaay :) |
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| 01:32.27 | captain_proton | BZ-like tank shooty game thingy thing? |
| 01:32.36 | dougheckaa | yeppers |
| 01:32.43 | dougheckaa | all for a low price of... well, free! |
| 01:45.36 | Noodleman_ | dougheckaa would die to get his hands on what i'm working on >:-) |
| 01:45.46 | dougheckaa | oh? |
| 01:45.54 | Noodleman_ | universal proxy |
| 01:46.01 | Noodleman_ | it will proxy anything |
| 01:46.03 | dougheckaa | universal proxy? |
| 01:46.04 | dougheckaa | oooh |
| 01:46.05 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 01:46.14 | Noodleman_ | any protocol, any host |
| 01:46.23 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 01:46.26 | dougheckaa | winders? :P |
| 01:46.35 | Noodleman_ | i'm writing it in perl |
| 01:46.40 | rbergero | can we make it proxy to hosts on your internal network? >:) |
| 01:46.44 | Noodleman_ | it will prolly work on winderz |
| 01:47.14 | Noodleman_ | you configure which host and port it will proxy to |
| 01:47.47 | rbergero | ah |
| 01:49.23 | Noodleman_ | it only does TCP, adding UDP support has the potential to make all hell break loose |
| 01:50.00 | rbergero | yeah, it would. do it! |
| 01:50.10 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 01:50.56 | Noodleman_ | right now, i'm trying to work out a reliable way to figure out when the client or the server drops their end of the connection |
| 01:51.02 | Noodleman_ | having a little trouble |
| 01:51.06 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 01:51.55 | Noodleman_ | does windows have fork() ? |
| 01:52.06 | dougheckaa | havnt the faintest idea |
| 01:52.14 | dougheckaa | it has spork and foon |
| 01:52.21 | Noodleman_ | haha |
| 01:52.24 | rbergero | nope, only knife() |
| 01:52.51 | rbergero | a call to knife makes the computer kill the user :P |
| 01:52.57 | Noodleman_ | patlabor221: does windows have fork() ? |
| 01:53.09 | captain_proton | Noodleman_: i think in a perl context it does |
| 01:53.16 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 01:53.19 | Noodleman_ | ah, i see |
| 01:53.22 | dougheckaa | sporks and kill too |
| 01:53.23 | Noodleman_ | captain_proton: thx |
| 01:53.27 | dougheckaa | can even |
| 01:53.36 | captain_proton | in reality its calling CreateNewProcessWithOpenFileAndFourMegabyteBufferWithMostOfTheArgumentsAsNull |
| 01:53.46 | Noodleman_ | haha |
| 01:54.28 | Noodleman_ | shows us how much we should love libc :-) |
| 01:55.29 | captain_proton | unix libc is ok |
| 01:57.11 | patlabor221 | good then you can port pico |
| 01:57.23 | Noodleman_ | hehe, pico bites |
| 01:57.49 | captain_proton | patlabor221: :) |
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| 02:00.01 | captain_proton | info? |
| 02:00.14 | patlabor221 | how to do some stuff |
| 02:00.21 | patlabor221 | like texturing |
| 02:00.31 | patlabor221 | Splating. |
| 02:00.35 | patlabor221 | splating is cool |
| 02:00.42 | rbergero | *SPLAT* |
| 02:01.04 | michaelh2 | * |
| 02:02.09 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 02:02.22 | captain_proton | this is the episode with the computer war where the casualties are executed |
| 02:02.38 | michaelh2 | be careful or you'll get #'ed |
| 02:02.53 | rbergero | %! |
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| 02:04.48 | Noodleman_ | hey bob |
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| 02:05.45 | patlabor221 | wtf was that? |
| 02:06.02 | Noodleman_ | doug logging in through my proxy :-) |
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| 02:06.21 | patlabor221 | why does he need a poxy? |
| 02:06.27 | Jormungandr | http://www.sacredcup.org/frcameron/gallery/bg051503/Pages/109.html |
| 02:06.28 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:06.49 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 02:06.49 | rbergero | epoxy the proxy! |
| 02:06.50 | Noodleman_ | he doesn't, i just asked him to test it |
| 02:06.54 | Jormungandr | maybe he wants to be stealthy or something. :) |
| 02:06.59 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 02:07.07 | Noodleman_ | irc.noodleroni.com |
| 02:07.08 | patlabor221 | didn't you tell me proxys were EVIL? |
| 02:07.19 | Noodleman_ | *open* proxies |
| 02:07.48 | Jormungandr | hard to get a hummingbird to be still long enough to take it's pic. |
| 02:07.53 | Noodleman_ | oooh, a flicker, one of my faves :-) |
| 02:07.59 | patlabor221 | I can imagine |
| 02:08.34 | Jormungandr | went to botanical garden and took about 180 pics today. |
| 02:08.36 | Jormungandr | got some good ones. |
| 02:08.47 | Noodleman_ | those are good ones |
| 02:09.10 | Jormungandr | thanks, noodle. |
| 02:09.14 | Jormungandr | I had a lot of fun. |
| 02:09.22 | Jormungandr | what did you take pics of, doug? |
| 02:10.08 | captain_proton | you don't want to know |
| 02:10.11 | Jormungandr | tons of lizards at the garden today. |
| 02:10.18 | Jormungandr | got a lot of lizard pics. |
| 02:10.32 | michaelh2 | is single user mode SU or what? |
| 02:10.45 | rbergero | telinit s |
| 02:10.46 | michaelh2 | or how does one start up in it...... |
| 02:10.53 | Jormungandr | yes.. when you are single user, you are root. |
| 02:11.13 | michaelh2 | so I log in as root then I am in single user mode? |
| 02:11.20 | rbergero | no. |
| 02:11.20 | Jormungandr | no... |
| 02:11.25 | michaelh2 | doh |
| 02:11.32 | michaelh2 | tellllll meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 02:11.35 | Jormungandr | when you are in single user mode, you are root, normally. |
| 02:11.39 | rbergero | but, if, as root, you do 'telinit s' you will BE in single user mode. |
| 02:11.42 | Jormungandr | what OS and what boot loader? |
| 02:11.49 | michaelh2 | Suse 6.3 |
| 02:11.54 | michaelh2 | lilo |
| 02:12.33 | Jormungandr | use "linux single" at the lilo prompt |
| 02:12.38 | Jormungandr | minus the quotes. |
| 02:12.44 | michaelh2 | ah so |
| 02:12.55 | Noodleman_ | kewl, the ultimate test |
| 02:12.57 | michaelh2 | probably appropriate for most of us |
| 02:12.59 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 02:13.02 | Noodleman_ | my proxy proxies ssh :-) |
| 02:13.44 | michaelh2 | my computer was hacked on by disk druid (rh 9) |
| 02:13.49 | michaelh2 | as you all know |
| 02:14.05 | michaelh2 | either that -- or something funky happened of which I know nothing |
| 02:14.52 | michaelh2 | oh well |
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| 02:24.37 | michaelh2 | well .. single user mode is non too thrilling :) |
| 02:25.02 | rbergero | nope. |
| 02:30.56 | captain_proton | RELEASE THE ETERNAL FIRES OF BURNINATION |
| 02:31.53 | michaelh2 | it's getting about time for my reformatathon |
| 02:32.53 | michaelh2 | from their website you'd almost think that no one uses wd hard drives with linux |
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| 03:23.38 | Jormungandr | getting 20 second exposures of eclipse. :) |
| 03:23.56 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 03:23.59 | dougheckaa | I saw it |
| 03:24.02 | dougheckaa | really cool |
| 03:24.06 | Jormungandr | they look really great. |
| 03:24.34 | Jormungandr | cool |
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| 03:24.43 | dougheckaa | XP is so cool |
| 03:24.46 | dougheckaa | for that stuff |
| 03:27.09 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 03:27.25 | dougheckaa | woo, and webcam works |
| 03:27.29 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 03:27.34 | dougheckaa | mission accomplish, lets move |
| 03:27.35 | dougheckaa | :) |
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| 03:55.02 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 03:55.15 | Patlabor221 | wb cap |
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| 04:13.47 | Jormungandr | http://www.dragon.org/mandrake/eclipse.jpg not too bad. |
| 04:15.05 | Jormungandr | next time, I'll have to yell at the moon to tell it to hold still :) |
| 04:15.41 | Patlabor221 | nice shot of the flying saucer there too |
| 04:15.48 | Patlabor221 | tell them to stay still, |
| 04:17.27 | Jormungandr | that's movement of the stars... the long exposure shows the star paths. |
| 04:18.04 | Jormungandr | it's kinda cool. |
| 04:18.57 | Patlabor221 | sure that's just what the gov'mnt wants us to think |
| 04:19.02 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 04:19.04 | Patlabor221 | I know all about the aliens out there |
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| 04:38.18 | Noodlema | m00 |
| 04:38.38 | Noodlema | anything_proxy.pl ruulz! |
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| 06:07.01 | f00f00 | hey |
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| 06:43.21 | MrApathyCream | w00t |
| 06:45.21 | MrApathyCream | I wonder what would happen if someone started checking in slammin' changes to the code |
| 06:45.25 | MrApathyCream | think anyone would notice? |
| 06:45.42 | captain_proton | probably not |
| 06:45.52 | captain_proton | whoa... |
| 06:45.53 | MrApathyCream | *sniff* |
| 06:45.57 | captain_proton | we're down to 17 open trouble tickets |
| 06:46.03 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: but i'd lub you for it |
| 06:46.15 | captain_proton | here's an idear |
| 06:46.19 | captain_proton | we could *ressurect* 1.81 |
| 06:46.20 | captain_proton | !! |
| 06:46.26 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:46.39 | captain_proton | just LOOK at all those new features! |
| 06:46.53 | MrApathyCream | NON EXPLODING TANKS...COOL!! |
| 06:48.32 | MrApathyCream | hmm, maybe i'll add random 3d rotational view matrix multiplications during explode time. |
| 06:48.38 | MrApathyCream | or maybe i'll just sob |
| 06:49.14 | captain_proton | i'll sob with you if you want |
| 06:49.49 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:50.41 | captain_proton | actually |
| 06:50.44 | captain_proton | you'll have to wait |
| 06:50.51 | captain_proton | because now its time for a visit to... |
| 06:50.55 | captain_proton | THE WET ROOM |
| 06:51.02 | Secret_Hamster | hum I've just had an excellent idea for an new powerup (well not really a powerup) |
| 06:51.15 | MrApathyCream | shower? |
| 06:51.23 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: indeedy |
| 06:51.26 | Secret_Hamster | what about a bullet that when it hits the target, you swap positions |
| 06:51.40 | Secret_Hamster | that wold be cool |
| 06:51.43 | MrApathyCream | including buildings? |
| 06:51.52 | Secret_Hamster | maybe |
| 06:52.12 | Secret_Hamster | up to you, that may get a problem with people being trapped |
| 06:52.24 | Secret_Hamster | or you could just steal their flag |
| 06:53.10 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 06:53.11 | captain_proton | NOOF |
| 06:53.37 | Secret_Hamster | actually if you swapped with a building, it could be like doing a mass kill on who it landed |
| 06:53.44 | captain_proton | we really need to get theif into the real codebase |
| 06:54.04 | Secret_Hamster | darn. don't you just hate none original thought |
| 06:54.11 | captain_proton | as well as TR & US |
| 06:54.16 | captain_proton | and VM! |
| 06:54.23 | MrApathyCream | FS |
| 06:54.24 | captain_proton | so many good flag ideas there... |
| 06:54.27 | captain_proton | FS FS FS |
| 06:54.33 | Secret_Hamster | I like the idea of that wiki thing, however I could never get the hang of it |
| 06:54.43 | Secret_Hamster | need more help on the tags |
| 06:55.02 | MrApathyCream | i think the flag page is just html |
| 06:55.24 | Secret_Hamster | is this on the ideas page |
| 06:55.35 | Secret_Hamster | or under the ideas area? |
| 06:55.35 | captain_proton | Secret_Hamster: no |
| 06:55.36 | captain_proton | FlagList |
| 06:55.59 | MrApathyCream | http://bzflag.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/FlagList |
| 06:56.40 | captain_proton | ok shower time now |
| 06:57.34 | MrApathyCream | heh some new rikable ones |
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| 07:00.19 | Secret_Hamster | thx looking |
| 07:00.28 | Secret_Hamster | must go myself. work time :( |
| 07:04.14 | Secret_Hamster | are all the new flags in cvs? |
| 07:04.41 | MrApathyCream | no the ones in blue are done on 1.8 branch,, to be back ported |
| 07:05.41 | MrApathyCream | bedtime |
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| 10:22.47 | larsl_school | Who was it that was working on refactoring bzfs.cxx? |
| 10:24.04 | larsl_school | ~bzfs |
| 10:24.04 | | bzfs is probably the BZFlag Server. |
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| 10:50.06 | [dmp] | anyone alive? |
| 10:50.32 | Chestal | me barely |
| 10:50.59 | ak|ra | me not |
| 10:51.02 | ak|ra | hi chestal |
| 10:51.07 | [dmp] | have the time for sending a mail to my email? i wonder if it works, still dont getting any spam |
| 10:52.58 | Chestal | which address? |
| 10:53.04 | [dmp] | dennis@moellegaard.dk |
| 10:54.55 | Chestal | mail sent |
| 10:55.57 | [dmp] | thanks |
| 11:06.08 | [dmp] | Chestal: In 30-60 mins, i begin moving the new league code to sf. Nobody complained so i guess it works |
| 11:06.52 | Chestal | ah, good |
| 11:07.10 | Chestal | I think you know what you're doing :-) |
| 11:08.59 | [dmp] | I hope so :) |
| 11:09.45 | [dmp] | anyway, i need to have a shower first |
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| 12:08.46 | [dmp] | I called the support and asked them about my email.. we talked back and forth, and he ended by asking me about my mail setup and if i could mail him some info about it :-) |
| 12:08.50 | [dmp] | i better charge them :) |
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| 13:16.23 | KR | hi! [dmp] or ches - you here? |
| 13:16.27 | Chestal | KR: yep |
| 13:16.40 | [dmp] | KR: :) |
| 13:16.49 | KR | hmmm - just logged onto League site - have 775 new mails - bug? |
| 13:16.54 | KR | :) |
| 13:16.56 | [dmp] | wow. |
| 13:17.01 | [dmp] | dammit. |
| 13:17.01 | KR | LOL |
| 13:17.04 | Chestal | uh? |
| 13:17.13 | KR | but they look - sop far - like legit mails |
| 13:17.22 | KR | let me look some more |
| 13:17.32 | Chestal | maybe you're jsut very popular ;-) |
| 13:17.37 | KR | but if you havent heard anything else.... - maybe its just me |
| 13:17.43 | KR | LOL ches |
| 13:18.03 | KR | :) will be back inna minute or two |
| 13:18.33 | KR | oh yeah - also got a msg that USD was dismissed, and didnt see it on team page |
| 13:19.08 | KR | oh - it is on inactive ;list - sorry |
| 13:19.08 | [dmp] | i know whats wrong, i need to rollback the database. |
| 13:19.22 | KR | back to ;ooking at emails |
| 13:20.14 | [dmp] | you will experience some problems now :) |
| 13:20.24 | KR | hmm - i got banned from Blitz... :( |
| 13:20.24 | KR | lol |
| 13:22.14 | KR | yep it all just went away - the whole site |
| 13:22.38 | [dmp] | i know :) |
| 13:22.42 | KR | darn I was being banned from so many teams and had so many peeps joining mine... :) |
| 13:22.49 | [dmp] | hehehe |
| 13:24.22 | KR | even had mails from before I joined league |
| 13:25.02 | KR | perhaps dmp caused a rip in the interdimensional fabric with bad coding |
| 13:25.19 | KR | and I got a glimpse of a parallel universe/dimension |
| 13:25.32 | KR | in which I have been playing BZ for years and years |
| 13:25.42 | KR | and am , in fact, a Mole there... |
| 13:25.48 | KR | :) |
| 13:27.01 | [dmp] | :) |
| 13:27.03 | [dmp] | syyyh |
| 13:27.04 | [dmp] | :) |
| 13:27.09 | KR | :) |
| 13:42.51 | [dmp] | almost ready now :) |
| 13:43.28 | jraitala | hello |
| 13:44.15 | [dmp] | KR: what was the username+ |
| 13:45.19 | [dmp] | ah |
| 13:45.19 | [dmp] | KRzBZ :) |
| 14:21.15 | KR | sorry - had to go frag for a bit |
| 14:22.30 | KR | dmp looks all fixed |
| 14:22.47 | KR | hi jraitala |
| 14:24.43 | [dmp] | KR: Bad habbit :9 |
| 14:25.34 | KR | nlol |
| 14:25.38 | KR | "n" |
| 14:25.40 | KR | :) |
| 14:25.44 | Chestal | kr: you could try and remvoe the scurvy dogz now |
| 14:25.55 | KR | ok willdo |
| 14:27.17 | KR | done |
| 14:27.25 | KR | <sniff> |
| 14:27.28 | KR | <tear> |
| 14:27.30 | KR | :) |
| 14:28.10 | KR | dmp - question 4 u about the ladder site when u can... |
| 14:28.46 | KR | does the score reflect the number of kills, or the number of capture made by the individual |
| 14:29.10 | KR | must be the latter, because I cap a lot, but often have a - score killwise |
| 14:29.19 | KR | just wanted to make sure I understood |
| 14:30.13 | [dmp] | KR: The CTF ladders dont consider kills at all. |
| 14:30.48 | [dmp] | KR: It only check for captures, when if a team captures the flag, all teammembers is rewarded. (and the opponent is punished.) |
| 14:30.49 | KR | so when it says score in the algorithm, that refers to number of team captures... |
| 14:31.14 | [dmp] | yes |
| 14:31.15 | KR | gotcha |
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| 14:31.38 | [dmp] | if you can suggestions on how i can rewrite the text, please let me know :) |
| 14:31.51 | KR | i wonderd how a p[layer of my not to proficient skills could remain as high as I have for so long... |
| 14:31.52 | [dmp] | Im better at danish, you know :) Engrish is my beast. |
| 14:32.39 | KR | be glad to do that will send you a msg |
| 14:32.40 | [dmp] | You join the right team, i guess :) |
| 14:33.12 | KR | I just like killing all the whole other team at once :) |
| 14:33.23 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 14:33.30 | [dmp] | only one way to do that :) |
| 14:33.43 | KR | cap 'em, baby |
| 14:33.58 | [dmp] | or people get too many messages :) |
| 14:34.05 | KR | nbye dmp - me too |
| 14:34.11 | KR | "n" sheesh |
| 14:34.33 | KR | c y'all later |
| 14:34.40 | KR | have good day |
| 14:34.44 | KR | bye |
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| 14:44.29 | Chestal | hi bzg |
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| 15:01.32 | larsl | X actually seems to run faster after I rebuilt it. =) |
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| 17:18.37 | rooter | [dmp]: you on? |
| 17:18.54 | rooter | rembo wants a match |
| 17:19.01 | rooter | i'll be on ducati |
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| 17:28.55 | Noodleman_ | m00 to all, and too all a good night! |
| 17:29.20 | dougheckaa | its 1:29 |
| 17:29.31 | Noodleman_ | :-P |
| 18:11.07 | [dmp] | rooter: Hmm, Im here now :) Guess Im too late |
| 18:21.35 | Noodleman_ | perl, the swiss-army chainsaw! |
| 18:21.47 | dougheckaa | .. |
| 18:21.48 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 18:22.42 | Noodleman_ | that's what's so neat about perl, that you can do anything |
| 18:22.48 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 18:23.35 | dougheckaa | Classical (Misc.) - Ravel- Bolero (From 10) [5:13] |
| 18:23.52 | Noodleman_ | where are you looking? |
| 18:24.02 | dougheckaa | live365 |
| 18:24.04 | dougheckaa | .com |
| 18:24.05 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 18:25.28 | dougheckaa | ( ( Fine Classics ) ) |
| 18:26.22 | dougheckaa | gah, dont stall on me now! |
| 18:48.17 | rooter | [dmp]: you back? |
| 18:48.29 | rooter | :) tag... you're it |
| 18:48.52 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 18:48.56 | [dmp] | 59999 now :) |
| 18:49.02 | rooter | ok |
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| 18:55.18 | Chestal | hi cheater ;-) |
| 18:55.51 | prot-work | ugh |
| 18:55.58 | prot-work | bolero is NOT a "fine classic" |
| 18:56.09 | prot-work | it was an experiment in orchestration, not a serious piece of music |
| 18:56.17 | dougheckaa | lol |
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| 19:26.35 | [dmp] | hi |
| 19:26.43 | [dmp] | david :) |
| 19:26.55 | rooter | hello |
| 19:26.59 | rooter | good game |
| 19:27.12 | rooter | 5156 is empty |
| 19:27.20 | rooter | calico should be around soon |
| 19:27.48 | david_v | hey dmp :) |
| 19:27.51 | [dmp] | we gained 19 points |
| 19:27.55 | rooter | cool beans |
| 19:29.32 | rooter | all of the teams above TDS are the active teams |
| 19:30.13 | rooter | we are back above 1200 :) |
| 19:30.23 | rooter | ~ducati6 |
| 19:30.25 | [dmp] | yeah :) |
| 19:30.39 | rooter | i see your new code is in place |
| 19:30.49 | [dmp] | yep.. almost without problems :) |
| 19:37.16 | [dmp] | not long before HoW will reach their 100th match. |
| 19:39.39 | Noodleman_ | dougheckaa: wanna get a hold of my anything proxy? |
| 19:41.00 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 19:41.10 | dougheckaa | works on winders? |
| 19:46.56 | Noodleman_ | you'll have to test it out :-) |
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| 19:47.53 | dougheckaa | sure |
| 19:49.55 | dougheckaa | brb |
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| 19:55.51 | dougheckaa | Noodleman: you there? |
| 19:55.53 | dougheckaa | hah |
| 19:55.55 | dougheckaa | for what domain? |
| 19:56.00 | patlabor221 | artemisgames |
| 19:56.06 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 20:19.34 | Noodleman | dougheckaa: now i'm here :-) |
| 20:22.55 | Noodleman | dougheckaa: sent it to tad@heckaman.com |
| 20:23.24 | dougheckaa | k |
| 20:23.45 | [dmp] | ~ducati6 |
| 20:28.38 | dougheckaa | no email yet |
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| 20:47.04 | [dmp] | hi tea |
| 20:47.07 | [TeA|TrEE] | ho :D |
| 20:47.15 | [TeA|TrEE] | geeesh im tired |
| 20:47.39 | [dmp] | :) |
| 20:47.44 | [dmp] | why not sleep then? |
| 20:47.56 | [TeA|TrEE] | dunno |
| 20:48.10 | [dmp] | ah |
| 20:48.12 | [dmp] | :) |
| 20:48.57 | [TeA|TrEE] | afk |
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| 21:20.06 | prot-work | TimRiker: hired kergoth? :) |
| 21:22.11 | dougheckaa | he didnt, but he had a.. hand in it :) |
| 21:22.24 | dougheckaa | big news in #zaurus :P |
| 21:23.39 | Noodleman | http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/h/352 |
| 21:23.47 | dougheckaa | no email yet |
| 21:23.48 | dougheckaa | :( |
| 21:24.01 | Noodleman | i sent it to tad@heckaman.com |
| 21:24.05 | dougheckaa | yup |
| 21:24.05 | Noodleman | is that correct? |
| 21:24.08 | dougheckaa | thats correct |
| 21:24.27 | prot-work | TimRiker: i know that next summer you'll want an intern ;-) |
| 21:24.45 | Noodleman | dougheckaa: ftp://ftp.noodleroni.com/pub/otherstuff/anything_proxy.pl |
| 21:24.46 | patlabor221 | duede cap it's texas. |
| 21:25.16 | dougheckaa | ITS IN PERL!?! |
| 21:25.29 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 21:25.30 | Noodleman | yup :-) |
| 21:25.45 | Noodleman | my fave swiss-army chainsaw, that is perl :-) |
| 21:25.55 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:30.31 | prot-work | patlabor221: true, but its embedded linux hacking |
| 21:39.15 | patlabor221 | TEXAS |
| 21:39.16 | patlabor221 | flat |
| 21:39.22 | patlabor221 | extra large |
| 21:39.23 | dougheckaa | dusty |
| 21:39.28 | patlabor221 | and not in charge |
| 21:39.38 | dougheckaa | near mexico |
| 21:39.50 | patlabor221 | hey I'm near mexico too |
| 21:39.59 | patlabor221 | I think I'm closer then dalas is |
| 21:40.09 | dougheckaa | texas has more near mexico than you can ever hope for |
| 21:40.22 | dougheckaa | not that ur hoping or anything |
| 21:40.46 | patlabor221 | we both border mexico |
| 21:41.02 | patlabor221 | so I don't see how they are more near it |
| 21:41.15 | dougheckaa | they have more near it |
| 21:41.21 | dougheckaa | like, stuff touching it |
| 21:41.33 | patlabor221 | I don't think surface area maters |
| 21:41.40 | patlabor221 | and mexico isn't bad |
| 21:41.44 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 21:41.51 | patlabor221 | it's where you get REALY drunk and buy cheap fireworks |
| 21:42.06 | dougheckaa | hey, tennisee has cheap fireworks too :) |
| 21:42.15 | patlabor221 | not like mexico cheap |
| 21:42.57 | patlabor221 | Tim is in Dalas right? |
| 21:43.05 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 21:43.18 | dougheckaa | austan I think |
| 21:43.24 | patlabor221 | austin |
| 21:43.38 | dougheckaa | yah |
| 21:44.22 | patlabor221 | well texas is rather large |
| 21:44.56 | dougheckaa | yikes, kergoth, cap, and TimRiker all in the same city |
| 21:45.10 | dougheckaa | nothing will ever get done! |
| 21:45.27 | patlabor221 | oooo I am about 75% closer to mexico then he is. |
| 21:45.39 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 21:46.03 | patlabor221 | I don't think I've been to his part of texas, just the top part |
| 21:46.54 | dougheckaa | its one of the few states where you can see the road go out to the horizon |
| 21:47.10 | patlabor221 | you can see that on the 5 |
| 21:47.20 | patlabor221 | I see that hapen when I drive up north. |
| 21:47.32 | dougheckaa | yea, theres a couple places |
| 21:47.36 | patlabor221 | how long does it take to drive across your state? |
| 21:47.44 | dougheckaa | umm |
| 21:47.45 | dougheckaa | dunno |
| 21:47.47 | dougheckaa | never have |
| 21:48.02 | dougheckaa | 1000 miles from melbourn florida |
| 21:48.03 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 21:48.03 | patlabor221 | takes about 5 hours to get to nevada here. |
| 21:48.21 | patlabor221 | I think I've been thur your city |
| 21:48.28 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 21:48.32 | patlabor221 | on my way to ft. cambel |
| 21:48.43 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:48.59 | patlabor221 | maybe, I don't remember tho |
| 21:49.06 | patlabor221 | would it be on the way? |
| 21:49.15 | dougheckaa | thats the only airport |
| 21:49.17 | patlabor221 | I know we went thur a large ish city |
| 21:49.21 | patlabor221 | ok then I guess I did |
| 21:49.23 | dougheckaa | other than florence and lexington |
| 21:49.25 | patlabor221 | cus I flew out. |
| 21:49.38 | patlabor221 | I went to a large full blown airport to leave |
| 21:49.59 | dougheckaa | it might have been lexington |
| 21:50.23 | patlabor221 | it was only like 45 min from ft cambel |
| 21:50.53 | dougheckaa | ah, then it was lexinton, louisville is farther. |
| 21:51.26 | patlabor221 | k |
| 21:51.31 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 21:51.44 | patlabor221 | I know we went thur nashville |
| 21:52.14 | patlabor221 | how would it difer? |
| 21:52.29 | larsl | We already have cops. |
| 21:52.33 | dougheckaa | well, robbers vs robbers |
| 21:52.36 | dougheckaa | one flag |
| 21:52.44 | patlabor221 | instead of shooting you say "bang your dead" and the other person goes "you missed" |
| 21:53.03 | patlabor221 | one flag with cops defending? |
| 21:53.08 | dougheckaa | one shot, if someone has the flag and get shot, the flag drops |
| 21:53.11 | larsl | CTF with a single flag? |
| 21:53.11 | dougheckaa | 2 teams |
| 21:53.15 | dougheckaa | larsl: yea |
| 21:53.20 | dougheckaa | and the base would move around |
| 21:53.24 | patlabor221 | that souns liek assult. |
| 21:53.25 | dougheckaa | :-/ |
| 21:53.31 | bzgirl | can someone ping me? 64.26.176.100 i need to know if it times out |
| 21:53.56 | dougheckaa | time out |
| 21:53.56 | patlabor221 | it does |
| 21:54.00 | larsl | bzgirl: Not getting any replies. |
| 21:54.00 | bzgirl | oh |
| 21:54.40 | bzgirl | how does a linksys router stop pings? can i disable that for a momnent? |
| 21:54.49 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 21:54.53 | dougheckaa | in the control panel somepalce |
| 21:54.57 | patlabor221 | well you can make a machine a DMZ |
| 21:55.02 | bzgirl | oh |
| 21:55.02 | dougheckaa | its like a ignore outside pings thing |
| 21:55.05 | bzgirl | good idea |
| 21:55.13 | dougheckaa | or that |
| 21:55.32 | patlabor221 | most routers don't have a setting for that, since it's used to ping flood |
| 21:55.32 | larsl | This kernel better be very very fast when it's done building. |
| 21:55.43 | dougheckaa | mine does |
| 21:55.58 | dougheckaa | larsl: lol |
| 21:55.59 | patlabor221 | yours is wierd |
| 21:56.17 | patlabor221 | none of my linksys, dlink, or gigafast ones will reply to a ping. |
| 21:56.20 | dougheckaa | heck, my router has a FTP server |
| 21:56.37 | patlabor221 | ouch security hole o'rama |
| 21:56.46 | dougheckaa | only on the inside |
| 21:56.56 | patlabor221 | or so you think :) |
| 21:57.04 | patlabor221 | my xbox now has a FTP server :) |
| 21:57.20 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:57.29 | dougheckaa | its got a password too! :P |
| 21:57.32 | larsl | patlabor221: Are you running Linux on it? |
| 21:57.38 | patlabor221 | not yet |
| 21:57.48 | dougheckaa | larsl: XP you insensitive clod |
| 21:57.50 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 21:57.54 | larsl | Ah. |
| 21:58.03 | patlabor221 | I need to free up a new drive for it. |
| 21:58.04 | larsl | Didn't know you could do that. |
| 21:58.11 | patlabor221 | you can't run XP on it |
| 21:58.17 | patlabor221 | needs kenel mods |
| 21:58.23 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 21:58.31 | patlabor221 | doug is just being stupid. |
| 21:58.48 | larsl | So there are FTP servers for the XBox? |
| 21:58.49 | dougheckaa | well, its run the 2000 kernle thingy |
| 21:59.06 | patlabor221 | it's runing a heavaly modified 2k kennel yes |
| 21:59.13 | patlabor221 | larsl yeah if you have it moded |
| 21:59.24 | dougheckaa | hahahhaa, they are selling a my router on asante.com for 39.99 |
| 21:59.30 | patlabor221 | it's 2k kernel supports the UMA |
| 21:59.42 | patlabor221 | normal NT server dosn't |
| 22:01.35 | patlabor221 | they are going to actualy try to get xbox support in as an ofical platform in the kenel source. |
| 22:01.39 | dougheckaa | Noodleman: I saw that link a few days ago.. |
| 22:01.42 | dougheckaa | on slashdot |
| 22:01.52 | dougheckaa | patlabor221: so it would run XP/ |
| 22:01.58 | dougheckaa | or only the kernel? |
| 22:02.09 | patlabor221 | doug, the linux kernel |
| 22:02.24 | patlabor221 | there is no source for windows kernels avalable |
| 22:02.26 | larsl | Are XBoxes silent? |
| 22:02.27 | patlabor221 | use brain |
| 22:02.28 | dougheckaa | errr, I read xbox has XP |
| 22:02.35 | dougheckaa | as even |
| 22:02.37 | patlabor221 | no, they have at least 1 fan |
| 22:02.55 | patlabor221 | it's not a loud fan tho |
| 22:03.06 | patlabor221 | version 1.0 has 2 fans |
| 22:03.14 | patlabor221 | aka mine. |
| 22:03.19 | [TeA|TrEE] | which is a good webpage builder software |
| 22:03.27 | patlabor221 | dreamweaver |
| 22:03.31 | [TeA|TrEE] | got.. |
| 22:03.45 | larsl | I'm using a Shuttle XPC as a server/semi-portable computer right now... it can be pretty noisy. |
| 22:03.52 | dougheckaa | hmm, so I could get an xbox... put a 200 gig drive in it... and make it one of them standalone filesharing systems? |
| 22:04.04 | patlabor221 | it only takes up to a 120 |
| 22:04.07 | dougheckaa | oh |
| 22:04.09 | patlabor221 | it dosn't have mode 6 |
| 22:04.09 | dougheckaa | shucks |
| 22:04.18 | patlabor221 | but it will do UDAM 100 |
| 22:04.22 | patlabor221 | UDMA 100 |
| 22:04.23 | *** join/#bzflag paul ([ZDXn2glDe@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 22:04.26 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 22:04.58 | patlabor221 | doug yes you could, but it would be cheaper to get a cheap durron in a little case. |
| 22:05.07 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 22:05.21 | dougheckaa | can you still play games on it, after you rommed it? |
| 22:05.33 | patlabor221 | depends on the mod chip |
| 22:05.40 | patlabor221 | some support multi boot |
| 22:05.42 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 22:05.43 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 22:05.44 | patlabor221 | some you have to turn off |
| 22:05.58 | patlabor221 | some you have to reflash |
| 22:06.03 | dougheckaa | ick |
| 22:06.37 | patlabor221 | one cool feature is if you use a moded xbox rom, you can burn games to ISOs on the drive and play them right from the drive. |
| 22:06.50 | dougheckaa | oooh, thats cool |
| 22:06.56 | patlabor221 | no DVD or CD needed. |
| 22:07.11 | dougheckaa | how do you choose which game? |
| 22:07.12 | dougheckaa | a menu? |
| 22:07.19 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:07.24 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 22:07.26 | patlabor221 | modified dashboard script |
| 22:07.38 | dougheckaa | too bad I dont play xbox games |
| 22:07.49 | dougheckaa | I like multiplayer games, without paying |
| 22:09.29 | patlabor221 | heh, by 2005 I don't think there will be any comercial games that don't have you pay anywhere |
| 22:09.44 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 22:09.50 | patlabor221 | the X-box live stuff is a good idea in thery, they just screwed the implementation. |
| 22:09.54 | dougheckaa | I hate monthly charges |
| 22:10.05 | dougheckaa | I dont mind paying once |
| 22:10.08 | dougheckaa | but monthly? |
| 22:10.12 | patlabor221 | $4 a month for access to any of the live games |
| 22:10.20 | patlabor221 | actualy it's $50 a year |
| 22:10.27 | dougheckaa | ~50/12 |
| 22:10.28 | | 4.166666666667 |
| 22:10.28 | patlabor221 | the idea was they run servers for you |
| 22:10.30 | patlabor221 | all that |
| 22:10.33 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 22:10.59 | patlabor221 | with out a centeral system, each developer is going to have to do there own internet thing, |
| 22:11.07 | patlabor221 | and most of them are gonna charge there own fee |
| 22:11.09 | dougheckaa | well, once I get an actual income, I dont like monthly payments, even small ones |
| 22:11.24 | dougheckaa | s/once/till |
| 22:11.32 | dougheckaa | dumb english languege |
| 22:11.37 | dougheckaa | we should all switch to german |
| 22:11.46 | patlabor221 | the live idea was, let one place handle all the servers and the devs don't have to wory about it, and it's cheaper for the end users stoo |
| 22:11.56 | patlabor221 | but then they screwed it all up |
| 22:12.01 | dougheckaa | like how? |
| 22:12.05 | dougheckaa | thats a cool idea and stuff |
| 22:12.08 | patlabor221 | well like they don't run servers |
| 22:12.13 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 22:12.13 | patlabor221 | and it's unrelyable as hell |
| 22:12.28 | patlabor221 | it became just a neat loby server |
| 22:12.32 | dougheckaa | ah, so they charge people, then dont put servers :) |
| 22:12.36 | patlabor221 | maybe live 2.0 will be better |
| 22:12.46 | dougheckaa | will that be an upgrade |
| 22:12.47 | patlabor221 | well they handle match making, and the voice stuff |
| 22:12.53 | dougheckaa | that you have to pay more? |
| 22:12.58 | patlabor221 | it will be auto sent to everyone who is on live |
| 22:13.01 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 22:13.02 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 22:13.04 | patlabor221 | no, it's just a new version |
| 22:13.07 | patlabor221 | no new hardware |
| 22:13.12 | dougheckaa | k |
| 22:13.31 | dougheckaa | still, I would like to be able to run MY windows games on it |
| 22:13.34 | patlabor221 | the nice thing is that since its' all online, and on the drive, it's autopatching. |
| 22:13.38 | dougheckaa | if not, then its not worth my money |
| 22:13.43 | patlabor221 | the x-box is not a PC |
| 22:13.52 | patlabor221 | it just has PC parts |
| 22:13.53 | dougheckaa | it runs 2000 kernel |
| 22:14.01 | dougheckaa | cant be THAT diferent :) |
| 22:14.07 | patlabor221 | so, I could make the windows 200 kenel run on a mac if I wanted. |
| 22:14.27 | patlabor221 | it has a very difrent memory and system bus archetecure |
| 22:14.38 | patlabor221 | and it's missing a lot of the stuff common PC games use |
| 22:14.42 | dougheckaa | till they have subspace on xbox... :) |
| 22:14.43 | patlabor221 | like GDI |
| 22:14.47 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 22:15.05 | patlabor221 | it's acutaly a subset of the 2k kernel |
| 22:15.10 | patlabor221 | many api's are missing |
| 22:15.13 | patlabor221 | no openGL |
| 22:15.14 | dougheckaa | not de whole thing then |
| 22:15.24 | patlabor221 | even the direct X version isn't as complete as the PC one |
| 22:15.36 | patlabor221 | since it dosn't have to support stuff that the hardware dosn't support |
| 22:15.40 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 22:16.00 | patlabor221 | since every x-box has the exact same hardware they trimed the API way down |
| 22:16.01 | dougheckaa | cuz it doesnt have to support ??? devices |
| 22:16.07 | patlabor221 | exactly |
| 22:16.22 | dougheckaa | hmm, so how much are xbox's goin for? |
| 22:16.35 | patlabor221 | and there is no need for an api to see how many chanels the sound card supports, since the developer shoudl allready know. |
| 22:16.43 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 22:16.43 | patlabor221 | the just came down to 179 |
| 22:16.53 | dougheckaa | hmm, for 179... |
| 22:16.56 | dougheckaa | I could get... |
| 22:17.20 | patlabor221 | preowns go for 150 now, but they will drop soon too |
| 22:17.23 | patlabor221 | proalby to 129 |
| 22:17.29 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 22:17.32 | dougheckaa | thats hard to beat |
| 22:17.34 | dougheckaa | in computers |
| 22:18.12 | patlabor221 | it'll run linux games, cus they put all the stuff in software as emulation, it's just not that fast. |
| 22:18.23 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 22:18.29 | dougheckaa | they cant address the video card? |
| 22:18.40 | patlabor221 | they can, just no hardware acceleation yet |
| 22:18.49 | patlabor221 | they are working on the drivers |
| 22:18.52 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 22:18.54 | larsl | What's the graphics card they use? |
| 22:18.55 | patlabor221 | it's a special GF3 |
| 22:19.03 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 22:19.14 | patlabor221 | with 64 megs of ram |
| 22:19.20 | patlabor221 | that also serves as system ram |
| 22:19.20 | larsl | Ordinary nVidia drivers wouldn't work? |
| 22:19.24 | patlabor221 | no |
| 22:19.37 | patlabor221 | it uses a difrent mem archeteture |
| 22:19.56 | patlabor221 | basicly it never copies a texture to the card |
| 22:20.04 | patlabor221 | since system ram is the same as vid ram |
| 22:20.08 | dougheckaa | cuz its allready there |
| 22:20.14 | dougheckaa | thats a cool idea |
| 22:20.18 | patlabor221 | so it's got all this stuff to do pointer swaping |
| 22:20.32 | patlabor221 | well the ram is also on chip ram, so it's hella fast |
| 22:20.37 | patlabor221 | and not upgradeable. |
| 22:20.44 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 22:21.09 | patlabor221 | the GPU and the CPU are right next to each other on the board too, to keep the distance down. |
| 22:21.17 | larsl | =) |
| 22:21.20 | patlabor221 | they actualy share the same heatsink |
| 22:21.21 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 22:22.04 | patlabor221 | and oddly it's the GPU that has the fan |
| 22:22.19 | dougheckaa | whats the cpu? |
| 22:22.58 | patlabor221 | modified 733 P3 |
| 22:23.08 | dougheckaa | interesting |
| 22:23.55 | patlabor221 | runs a bus speed a bit higher then 133 too :) |
| 22:24.12 | *** join/#bzflag jupiter (~jupiter@161.97.199.99) |
| 22:24.35 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 22:24.45 | *** join/#bzflag michaelh2 (Mouse@208.42.191.210) |
| 22:25.03 | michaelh2 | I installed Suse 8 flawlessly.... in sharp contrast to redhat :) |
| 22:25.57 | michaelh2 | I'm off to see the wizard...... |
| 22:29.52 | larsl | Time to test the new multimedia-patched, Athlon-optimized kernel. |
| 22:31.05 | larsl | I'll have to reboot first. =) |
| 22:31.10 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 22:31.25 | patlabor221 | I thought you never rebboted in leeenox |
| 22:31.37 | patlabor221 | even when the power goes out |
| 22:31.46 | larsl | I think it's possible to "hotswap" the kernel, but I don't want to try it. |
| 22:31.48 | patlabor221 | it runs on magic :) |
| 22:31.59 | larsl | It involves some kind of voodoo. |
| 22:32.25 | bzgirl | linux users reboot just cos "we can" |
| 22:32.45 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 22:34.15 | Noodleman | how the crap did i get banned from debian?? |
| 22:34.27 | dougheckaa | #debian? |
| 22:34.35 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 22:34.46 | dougheckaa | huh |
| 22:34.47 | dougheckaa | I aint |
| 22:35.08 | Noodleman | could you go in and ask? i've only been in there once, shouldn't be banned |
| 22:35.16 | dougheckaa | ok |
| 22:35.21 | Noodleman | ip is 66.62.140.4 |
| 22:35.39 | patlabor221 | wtf asgard only has 15 days of uptime, when did I restart it. |
| 22:35.44 | patlabor221 | ooooo yeah the haxors |
| 22:36.04 | Noodleman | grrrrr -> script kiddies |
| 22:36.38 | dougheckaa | helpfull people |
| 22:36.52 | dougheckaa | they said #freenode or wait for an @op to talk to me |
| 22:36.59 | dougheckaa | only the only op was debhelper |
| 22:37.00 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 22:37.02 | dougheckaa | a bot |
| 22:37.17 | Noodleman | #freenode can list the ban? |
| 22:37.22 | patlabor221 | whoot 565 megs of transfer this week on askgard |
| 22:37.23 | Noodleman | lift * |
| 22:37.24 | dougheckaa | dunno |
| 22:37.28 | dougheckaa | I guess |
| 22:37.34 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 22:38.12 | patlabor221 | noodle did I fix your bot ban here? |
| 22:38.26 | Noodleman | yup, thx :-) |
| 22:38.44 | patlabor221 | k |
| 22:38.49 | patlabor221 | didn't remember |
| 22:39.37 | *** join/#bzflag larsl (~larsl@c213-100-62-39.swipnet.se) |
| 22:39.48 | patlabor221 | man I forgot to check in the evil noodlebot last night |
| 22:40.01 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 22:40.07 | Noodleman | i msg'ed lilo, maybe he can help |
| 22:40.16 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 22:40.21 | patlabor221 | all I did was list the bugs in P2501 |
| 22:40.30 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 22:40.41 | patlabor221 | ok some of the bugs |
| 22:41.18 | patlabor221 | and found I have to redo the models |
| 22:41.45 | dougheckaa | can that proxy thing, can I do a whole range of ports? |
| 22:42.08 | Noodleman | it can do any port, any host, any tcp protocol |
| 22:42.21 | dougheckaa | but how about a range of ports? |
| 22:42.24 | patlabor221 | pffft no UDP |
| 22:42.41 | dougheckaa | like 5000-6000? |
| 22:42.41 | Noodleman | proxying udp would raise cain for sure |
| 22:42.58 | Noodleman | you'd have to run one instance for each port |
| 22:43.04 | dougheckaa | bah |
| 22:43.04 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 22:43.05 | dougheckaa | http://heck.no-ip.com:3000/ |
| 22:43.18 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 22:43.18 | patlabor221 | who says he has not allready risen? |
| 22:43.31 | Noodleman | haha |
| 22:43.39 | *** join/#bzflag bzfrank (~chatzilla@p509188D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:43.45 | bzfrank | hi |
| 22:43.47 | dougheckaa | hey hey hey bzfrank |
| 22:43.52 | bzfrank | hey doug |
| 22:43.53 | larsl | Zebedee does UDP. |
| 22:44.07 | larsl | It's not really a proxy though. |
| 22:44.15 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 22:44.16 | dougheckaa | windows? |
| 22:44.19 | patlabor221 | ohh no, it's the worst song in the entire universe |
| 22:44.25 | larsl | And it tunnels it over a TCP encryption. =) |
| 22:44.28 | dougheckaa | there, the proxy should work now |
| 22:44.28 | patlabor221 | that what dives men mad |
| 22:44.34 | bzfrank | doug: you tried yesterdays update yet? |
| 22:44.42 | dougheckaa | nope |
| 22:44.46 | dougheckaa | been reading |
| 22:44.57 | dougheckaa | studying rather |
| 22:44.59 | dougheckaa | let me fire it up |
| 22:45.06 | patlabor221 | frank it still crashes for me, even with the new code. only in full screen at exit. |
| 22:45.17 | *** join/#bzflag jupiter (~jupiter@161.97.199.99) |
| 22:45.21 | patlabor221 | and only here. |
| 22:45.28 | patlabor221 | not at home |
| 22:45.42 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 22:46.13 | prot-work | argh |
| 22:46.24 | prot-work | for some reason the win2k install is dropping to a blinking cursor |
| 22:46.31 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 22:46.38 | dougheckaa | even XP cant do that |
| 22:46.42 | bzfrank | pat, that is the last line in the stdout.txt or stderr.txt file when this happens? |
| 22:46.44 | dougheckaa | it just blue screens :) |
| 22:47.19 | bzfrank | pat: you tried yesterdays changes, I completely get rid of the OPENGLBLIT stuff |
| 22:47.42 | patlabor221 | Zerovector! |
| 22:47.43 | patlabor221 | key 'escape' pressed |
| 22:47.43 | patlabor221 | End main loop |
| 22:47.43 | patlabor221 | Got mean 52.06 FPS |
| 22:47.43 | patlabor221 | End network |
| 22:47.49 | bzfrank | the new console also looks more Quakish.... |
| 22:48.01 | patlabor221 | yeah this is the new stuff |
| 22:48.07 | dougheckaa | Noodleman_: hmm, you know of any better proxy servers? :P |
| 22:48.07 | patlabor221 | the last full build |
| 22:48.15 | patlabor221 | I put up a list of issues on the board |
| 22:48.28 | Noodleman | dougheckaa: i know of http proxies that cache |
| 22:48.45 | dougheckaa | hmm, like something that can proxy bzflag |
| 22:48.46 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 22:48.47 | Noodleman | but i don't know of any other small anything proxies |
| 22:49.06 | Noodleman | bzfrelay |
| 22:49.06 | dougheckaa | ssh doesnt work right |
| 22:49.13 | bzfrank | reading the board now |
| 22:49.22 | Noodleman | ssh works just fine for me, i tested it |
| 22:49.41 | Noodleman | what did it do for you? |
| 22:49.45 | dougheckaa | exept seting up the ports |
| 22:49.52 | dougheckaa | I can never figure out what ports I need |
| 22:49.59 | Noodleman | port 22 is ssh |
| 22:50.02 | dougheckaa | and it doesnt support 5000-6000 type stuff |
| 22:50.09 | Noodleman | you have to be root to listen on that tho |
| 22:50.13 | bzfrank | later |
| 22:50.15 | dougheckaa | no, the ssh port forwarding stuff |
| 22:50.27 | Noodleman | hmm, dunno |
| 22:51.04 | dougheckaa | hmm... a perl socks 5 server... |
| 22:51.12 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 22:51.17 | Noodleman | i could write that... |
| 22:51.22 | Noodleman | good idea :-) |
| 22:51.27 | dougheckaa | seeding seeds are fun |
| 22:51.30 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 22:51.50 | Noodleman | although, anything_proxy is also has an http connect proxy mode |
| 22:52.02 | dougheckaa | hm? |
| 22:52.18 | Noodleman | ./anything_proxy --http-connect |
| 22:52.30 | prot-work | aha, so i see all sorts of stuff on the flat panel that i didn't on the crt |
| 22:52.38 | dougheckaa | hows that work? |
| 22:52.39 | prot-work | so hopefully it'll work better |
| 22:52.48 | dougheckaa | I set up the browser to use it as a poroxy? |
| 22:52.53 | Noodleman | try it |
| 22:53.01 | dougheckaa | k |
| 22:53.04 | Noodleman | it should work, but i haven't really tested that |
| 22:53.46 | prot-work | yay for matrox |
| 22:55.15 | dougheckaa | hmm, you have that link again? |
| 22:55.19 | dougheckaa | I messed mine up |
| 22:55.19 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 22:55.36 | Noodleman | ftp://ftp.noodleroni.com/pub/otherstuff/anything_proxy.pl |
| 22:56.00 | dougheckaa | thx |
| 22:56.19 | dougheckaa | my $option = shift; # or "--http-connect" for a HTTP CONNECT proxy |
| 22:56.38 | dougheckaa | my $option = --http-connect;? |
| 22:56.56 | Noodleman | my $option = "--http-connect"; |
| 22:57.08 | dougheckaa | oh |
| 22:57.12 | dougheckaa | I put the "" around it |
| 22:57.13 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 22:57.58 | Noodleman | three books i'm going to get after work today: |
| 22:58.12 | Noodleman | linux server hacks, google hacks, and programming perl |
| 22:58.20 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 22:58.22 | Noodleman | i've been wanting those for a while |
| 22:58.39 | Noodleman | o'reilly makes the best books ever :-) |
| 22:58.53 | dougheckaa | While forking: Resource temporarily unavailable at C:\Documents and Settings\Do |
| 22:58.53 | dougheckaa | g\Desktop\downloaded\anything_proxy.pl line 89. |
| 22:58.53 | dougheckaa | -3116: Accepted connection from 192.168.123.3:3728 |
| 22:58.53 | dougheckaa | -3116: Bad query from client |
| 22:59.16 | dougheckaa | crashed it too |
| 22:59.27 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 23:00.04 | dougheckaa | buggy perl stuff |
| 23:00.16 | dougheckaa | gimme C++ binarys anytime |
| 23:00.16 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 23:00.37 | prot-work | dougheckaa: if you want a C++ version, write it yourself |
| 23:00.51 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 23:00.51 | dougheckaa | http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~hf2/anon/proxy/ |
| 23:00.57 | prot-work | i'm sick of your constant begging for people to give you crap |
| 23:01.24 | dougheckaa | that was a statement, not a begging. |
| 23:02.20 | dougheckaa | Noodleman: there is only... oh, about 2 billion http proxys in perl |
| 23:04.09 | dougheckaa | hey Noodleman: how about a small mod, it would be an option to pass all the requests to another proxy, where it would then go out. |
| 23:04.12 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 23:04.16 | dougheckaa | anonymouse proxy |
| 23:05.22 | patlabor221 | any mouse rocks!!! |
| 23:05.54 | dougheckaa | misspeelers anonymouse! |
| 23:10.25 | dougheckaa | woo, p2501 mines are cool |
| 23:10.42 | patlabor221 | they are rather large |
| 23:12.57 | patlabor221 | ugg maps are just input to a state machine |
| 23:14.31 | dougheckaa | with lots of things around it |
| 23:15.37 | patlabor221 | you would munchkin :) |
| 23:19.18 | dougheckaa | yah |
| 23:19.23 | dougheckaa | found a bug |
| 23:19.29 | dougheckaa | now my gamma is messed up too |
| 23:20.02 | dougheckaa | how do I fix my gamma? |
| 23:20.28 | larsl | On Windows you probably have to reboot. =) |
| 23:20.34 | dougheckaa | bah |
| 23:20.48 | patlabor221 | just have something else set a gama profile |
| 23:20.57 | patlabor221 | like the display controll panel |
| 23:21.08 | dougheckaa | its not enuf |
| 23:22.15 | patlabor221 | then your computer lacks wang |
| 23:35.06 | Noodleman | AAAAAAAGGGGGHHH!! |
| 23:35.10 | Noodleman | lusers! |
| 23:36.21 | patlabor221 | where? |
| 23:37.35 | Noodleman | on the phone |
| 23:38.19 | Noodleman | it took my almost 5 minutes to explain to someone how to unplug the phone cord from the back of their computer and plug it into a phone to see if they get a dial tone |
| 23:41.39 | patlabor221 | wow |
