| 00:00.15 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:00.44 | doughecka | hahahaa |
| 00:00.52 | doughecka | gets sucked right in |
| 00:00.59 | Patlabor221 | then explodes |
| 00:01.03 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:01.22 | doughecka | ROFL |
| 00:01.57 | doughecka | the crab is still alive when it gets sucked in... :) |
| 00:01.59 | Patlabor221 | cap have you seen crap vs. pipe? |
| 00:04.31 | doughecka | why are they cutting the pipe without letting the water go in first? |
| 00:05.59 | Patlabor221 | what you want them to drain the ocean? |
| 00:06.12 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:06.13 | Patlabor221 | proalby for a sensor |
| 00:06.19 | Patlabor221 | that will camp on |
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| 00:24.05 | Patlabor221 | doug it's not THAT funny |
| 00:24.10 | doughecka | cuz XP wont run on 49 megs of ram |
| 00:24.15 | doughecka | Patlabor221: it is... |
| 00:24.22 | Patlabor221 | do not infatuate on it |
| 00:24.34 | doughecka | hahahaa, its soo funny, hahahaa |
| 00:24.41 | Noodleman_ | what's this crab vs. pipe thing? |
| 00:24.47 | doughecka | Noodleman_: LOL |
| 00:24.54 | doughecka | http://www.artemisgames.com/CrabVsPipe.mpeg |
| 00:24.57 | Noodleman_ | i wasn't here |
| 00:25.02 | Patlabor221 | pipe allways wins |
| 00:25.11 | doughecka | indeed it does |
| 00:25.47 | doughecka | This is a video taken in 6000 feet of water. An undersea robot is sawing a 3mm wide slit (1/10th of an inch ... remember that width) in a pipeline. The pressure inside the pipeline is 0 psig, while the pressure outside is 2700 psi, or 1.3 tons per square inch. Then a crab comes along.... |
| 00:25.49 | Noodleman_ | what the crap was that? |
| 00:26.08 | Noodleman_ | lol! |
| 00:26.14 | Patlabor221 | pipe ALLLWAYS wins |
| 00:26.19 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:26.23 | doughecka | with a little help |
| 00:26.43 | Patlabor221 | no I can't think of a situation where pipe looses |
| 00:26.46 | doughecka | crab soup anyone? |
| 00:26.54 | Patlabor221 | no not soup |
| 00:27.01 | Patlabor221 | that means it has chunks |
| 00:27.06 | doughecka | oh |
| 00:27.08 | Patlabor221 | crap frape |
| 00:27.08 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:27.10 | doughecka | hahahaa |
| 00:27.59 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:28.10 | doughecka | I want to do that with a fish.. and a crab.. and a hamster.. |
| 00:28.15 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:28.21 | doughecka | fish should be fun |
| 00:28.42 | doughecka | live fish on one side... fish frape out the other |
| 00:28.55 | Patlabor221 | doug you are sick |
| 00:29.08 | Noodleman_ | lol |
| 00:29.14 | doughecka | thanks |
| 00:29.22 | Noodleman_ | it *is* funny |
| 00:29.33 | Patlabor221 | yes but not 50 times funny |
| 00:29.45 | Noodleman_ | no... |
| 00:29.51 | doughecka | I bet the guy controlling the thing just died from laughter |
| 00:29.56 | Patlabor221 | he's infatuating on it |
| 00:30.01 | Patlabor221 | he does that ith all new things |
| 00:30.21 | Patlabor221 | I'm suporsed he didn't see it earlyer |
| 00:30.32 | Patlabor221 | since it was on /. I think |
| 00:31.01 | Patlabor221 | freak |
| 00:32.25 | doughecka | freak |
| 00:32.35 | Patlabor221 | naw it's good anime |
| 00:32.46 | Patlabor221 | that I riped for someone who is no longer here |
| 00:32.56 | Patlabor221 | and I'm posting it for another frined |
| 00:33.48 | Noodleman_ | no anime is good anime ;-) |
| 00:33.56 | doughecka | Noodleman_: yup :) |
| 00:33.59 | Patlabor221 | what about one with a tank? |
| 00:34.05 | Patlabor221 | lots of tanks |
| 00:34.07 | Noodleman_ | depends :-) |
| 00:34.11 | Noodleman_ | does it fly? |
| 00:34.14 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 00:34.15 | Patlabor221 | YES! |
| 00:34.17 | Patlabor221 | it can jump |
| 00:34.21 | doughecka | does it have GMs? |
| 00:34.24 | doughecka | how about SWs? |
| 00:34.33 | Patlabor221 | kinda |
| 00:34.42 | Patlabor221 | rear mounted vulcan cannon |
| 00:34.44 | doughecka | bah, then its no good |
| 00:35.20 | Patlabor221 | you could totaly infatuate on macros plus if you saw it |
| 00:35.34 | doughecka | whats that? |
| 00:35.47 | Patlabor221 | an anime |
| 00:35.59 | Patlabor221 | a very well done anime |
| 00:36.03 | doughecka | uh huh |
| 00:36.59 | Patlabor221 | have you actualy seen any? |
| 00:37.39 | doughecka | nope |
| 00:37.40 | Patlabor221 | I will be ripping BigO soon |
| 00:37.48 | Patlabor221 | then why do you say it's crap? |
| 00:38.05 | doughecka | I dint |
| 00:38.42 | Patlabor221 | you concured with noodleman. therefore by proxy you were saying it's all crap |
| 00:38.55 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:39.19 | Patlabor221 | I do realy need to get my mac plus dvds pack |
| 00:40.09 | Patlabor221 | black magic is prety good |
| 00:40.12 | Patlabor221 | old but good |
| 00:40.20 | doughecka | huh |
| 00:40.27 | Patlabor221 | an anime |
| 00:40.29 | Patlabor221 | by shirow |
| 00:40.38 | Patlabor221 | guy who did ghost in the shell and appleseed |
| 00:41.49 | doughecka | *clap* *clap* |
| 00:43.30 | Noodleman_ | i don't know if it's all crap, i was just jerking you around |
| 00:43.39 | Noodleman_ | having some fun at your expense :-) |
| 00:44.35 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:45.20 | Patlabor221 | well I'm posting the good tank one :) |
| 00:45.20 | doughecka | whos EVERYONE? |
| 00:45.26 | Noodleman_ | ~fishslap Patlabor221 |
| 00:45.27 | | ACTION slaps Patlabor221 up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:45.29 | Patlabor221 | the universe |
| 00:45.31 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:45.32 | Patlabor221 | all banded |
| 00:45.58 | Patlabor221 | and I don't know why I find this so freaking funny |
| 00:45.59 | Patlabor221 | http://www.vgcats.com/vg_comics/index.php?date=2003-02-10 |
| 00:47.28 | doughecka | uh huh |
| 00:47.46 | Patlabor221 | bz needs a flamethrower |
| 00:47.50 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:47.52 | doughecka | like p2501 |
| 00:47.57 | doughecka | exept better |
| 00:47.58 | Patlabor221 | but cooler |
| 00:48.03 | Noodleman_ | i think 2501 does |
| 00:48.05 | doughecka | make the tanks flame up |
| 00:48.09 | doughecka | Noodleman: REPOST! |
| 00:48.12 | doughecka | Noodleman_: :P |
| 00:48.44 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 00:48.50 | doughecka | Patlabor221: hmm, maybe have the tanks flare up and stuff |
| 00:49.04 | Noodleman_ | in soviet russia, the flame throws YOU! |
| 00:49.10 | Patlabor221 | but do the tanks go "fire in the morning, fire in the eveing, fire at suppa time!" ? |
| 00:49.19 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:49.20 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 00:49.32 | doughecka | Noodleman_: bah! :P |
| 00:50.11 | Noodleman_ | i think i'm the only person in the world that thinks those /. trolls are amusing |
| 00:50.17 | doughecka | Noodleman: hehehe |
| 00:50.32 | doughecka | I mod all the 5 five posts funny |
| 00:50.43 | Noodleman_ | lol |
| 00:50.47 | doughecka | *first 5 post funny |
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| 01:24.16 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
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| 01:26.47 | Noodleman_ | weird |
| 01:26.56 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 01:27.19 | Noodleman | that was my irc session at work |
| 01:27.42 | doughecka | hah |
| 01:28.06 | Patlabor221 | wow filled that drive up with mp3s and movies |
| 01:28.16 | doughboy | hello |
| 01:28.23 | doughecka | haha |
| 01:28.28 | doughboy | nope that doesn't work |
| 01:28.32 | doughboy | hehe |
| 01:28.38 | doughboy | it does work :-) |
| 01:28.39 | doughecka | ! |
| 01:28.49 | Patlabor221 | ha I am faster then you |
| 01:29.00 | doughecka | ! mine showed up first |
| 01:29.03 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:29.05 | Noodleman | i actually saw doug's first |
| 01:29.44 | Patlabor221 | I saw mine first so that's all that matters :) |
| 01:29.58 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:30.20 | Patlabor221 | shut welcome back |
| 01:30.32 | Patlabor221 | how was your vacation. good I hope |
| 01:30.50 | doughecka | hmm? |
| 01:30.54 | doughecka | did shut just connect? |
| 01:30.55 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:31.29 | doughecka | ~whois bzgirl |
| 01:31.29 | | bzgirl is, like, the coolest around |
| 01:31.33 | doughecka | ~whois dinah |
| 01:31.33 | | well, dinah is sad read her book at http://www.artemisgames.com/dinah/ |
| 01:31.39 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:32.05 | Noodleman | ~whois Noodleman |
| 01:32.06 | | well, noodleman is something |
| 01:32.08 | Patlabor221 | sadly no longer |
| 01:32.12 | doughecka | ~whois Patlabor221 |
| 01:32.13 | | hmm... patlabor221 is http://www.artemisgames.com/webcam.html |
| 01:32.13 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:32.21 | doughecka | oh, webcam! |
| 01:32.30 | Patlabor221 | no webcam ether |
| 01:32.32 | doughecka | aww |
| 01:32.46 | Noodleman | well, i g2g |
| 01:32.48 | doughecka | cya |
| 01:32.51 | Noodleman | l8r d00dz! |
| 01:32.52 | Patlabor221 | have fun |
| 01:33.01 | doughecka | cyal8rg8r |
| 01:33.01 | doughecka | :P |
| 01:33.13 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:33.14 | Noodleman | keep suckin' the crabs! |
| 01:33.19 | doughecka | haha |
| 01:33.19 | Patlabor221 | ~ no dinah is flying away. |
| 01:33.20 | | okay, Patlabor221 |
| 01:33.31 | doughecka | the pipe allways wins |
| 01:33.35 | doughecka | ~seen dinah |
| 01:33.36 | | dinah <~fowndling@137.36.253.100> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 88d 6h 20m 54s ago, saying: 'not a thing'. |
| 01:33.40 | doughecka | wow |
| 01:33.43 | doughecka | 88 days |
| 01:33.52 | Patlabor221 | ummm... do you know where she is |
| 01:33.57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:34.05 | doughecka | UK isnt it? |
| 01:34.11 | Patlabor221 | doug she died. |
| 01:34.14 | doughecka | oh? |
| 01:34.18 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:34.24 | doughecka | I never heard that. |
| 01:34.37 | Patlabor221 | she didn't want percy to tell many people |
| 01:34.43 | doughecka | ah |
| 01:35.28 | doughecka | a 42 meg driver zip... |
| 01:35.36 | Patlabor221 | for what? |
| 01:35.41 | Patlabor221 | a sound card I'll bet |
| 01:35.46 | doughecka | ummm, yea.. |
| 01:35.49 | doughecka | and grafic card |
| 01:35.52 | doughecka | or* |
| 01:36.06 | Patlabor221 | graphic drivers would not be that large |
| 01:36.12 | Patlabor221 | has to be sound |
| 01:36.20 | Patlabor221 | has the midi sample sets in it |
| 01:36.25 | doughecka | ah |
| 01:36.25 | Patlabor221 | must be liveware |
| 01:36.38 | doughecka | no, sis onboard ugh ugh junk |
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| 01:37.27 | doughecka | which 2000 pro doesnt seem to have any drivers for.. |
| 01:37.38 | doughecka | for anything... no grafic, sound, or ethernet |
| 01:38.15 | Patlabor221 | no 2k did not know about the chipsets |
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| 01:38.25 | Patlabor221 | get it form SIS |
| 01:38.32 | doughecka | I tried.. |
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| 01:38.50 | doughecka | but so far I cant seem to find anything that matches what I think this mobo has |
| 01:39.00 | doughecka | the mobo doesnt have a part number on it |
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| 01:39.31 | Patlabor221 | then you lack the skill to properly install it |
| 01:39.35 | doughecka | hahahah |
| 01:39.53 | doughecka | Patlabor221: oh I found the motherboard... all 50 revisions of it |
| 01:40.34 | doughecka | and the problem is, many people have taken the board and sold it |
| 01:40.42 | Patlabor221 | Zankoku na Tenshi no Teize |
| 01:41.07 | doughecka | ? |
| 01:41.13 | doughecka | whats that? greek? |
| 01:41.13 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.19 | Patlabor221 | eeye |
| 01:41.29 | doughecka | ~rot13 Zankoku na Tenshi no Teize |
| 01:41.29 | | Mnaxbxh an Grafuv ab Grvmr |
| 01:41.35 | doughecka | hmm, that dint help |
| 01:41.41 | Patlabor221 | no it wouldn't |
| 01:41.49 | doughecka | jap? |
| 01:41.57 | Patlabor221 | I bot can not solve all things |
| 01:42.34 | doughecka | ~whats the answer? |
| 01:42.45 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:42.48 | doughecka | ~answer |
| 01:42.48 | | answer is, like, 42 |
| 01:42.54 | doughecka | ah |
| 01:43.33 | doughecka | DOH! |
| 01:43.44 | doughecka | I put all these nice drivers on this cd.. |
| 01:43.50 | doughecka | but no way to unzip them |
| 01:44.18 | Patlabor221 | joo need winzip |
| 01:44.31 | doughecka | yea, forgot to copy it to the cd |
| 01:45.35 | doughecka | bah, 1.80 megs |
| 01:46.00 | doughecka | but then I wouldnt be able to unzip it.. |
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| 01:51.14 | Patlabor221 | uip |
| 01:51.19 | Patlabor221 | sukio |
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| 01:57.30 | bzdoug | greetings |
| 01:58.55 | Patlabor221 | MegaMan is a supper fighting robot..... |
| 02:01.07 | bzdoug | I am allways short of stuff... today its mice... I need a mouse.. but there is none... :) |
| 02:01.38 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.05 | bzdoug | if you have to fight your supper... it should be cooked more |
| 02:02.16 | Patlabor221 | mega man |
| 02:02.46 | Patlabor221 | did you know I am a pioneer |
| 02:02.54 | Patlabor221 | I'm out on a scret mission |
| 02:02.56 | bzdoug | nope |
| 02:03.01 | bzdoug | oh really? |
| 02:03.04 | Patlabor221 | I travel the galaxy and far beyond |
| 02:03.10 | bzdoug | it aint scret anymore |
| 02:03.17 | Patlabor221 | can you see that I am a pioneer |
| 02:03.27 | bzdoug | nope |
| 02:03.28 | Patlabor221 | unlocking the greatest mysteries |
| 02:03.44 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 02:03.53 | Patlabor221 | my key is a fearless heart so pure and strong |
| 02:04.01 | Patlabor221 | people laugh when you are a pioneer |
| 02:04.08 | Patlabor221 | not walking the straigt an narrow |
| 02:04.27 | bzdoug | do you know how to view the galaxy for 30 alterian dollers a day? |
| 02:04.45 | Patlabor221 | they tell you the way things are, they swear you'r wrong |
| 02:04.55 | Patlabor221 | you can't be a hero hiding underneath your beed |
| 02:05.24 | Patlabor221 | you got to live the life you create in side your head, |
| 02:05.39 | Patlabor221 | so I opend the window and caught the wind one night |
| 02:05.59 | Patlabor221 | now I sail with the birds in ther flight. |
| 02:06.48 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/darkmoor/Anime/Tenchi/(Tenchi-Muyo!)%20I'm%20A%20Pioneer.mp3 |
| 02:09.10 | bzdoug | Cruel Angel's Thesis |
| 02:10.47 | Patlabor221 | very good |
| 02:10.52 | Patlabor221 | for the first one |
| 02:11.16 | Patlabor221 | did you search for that? |
| 02:11.17 | bzdoug | google is my friend |
| 02:11.23 | bzdoug | :) |
| 02:11.38 | bzdoug | like the 5th answer had it right there in google |
| 02:14.07 | bzdoug | bah, no network yet... |
| 02:18.28 | bzdoug | BOOYEA! we got SOUND! |
| 02:20.03 | Patlabor221 | Big O, it's showtime! |
| 02:20.14 | bzdoug | lol |
| 02:20.38 | bzdoug | huh, what do ya know.... drivers right on pcchips.com... |
| 02:20.50 | bzdoug | did a search and I looked at pcchips.com.tw |
| 02:20.54 | bzdoug | stupid folks |
| 02:22.51 | Patlabor221 | sis used to be pcchips I think |
| 02:23.08 | bzdoug | oh really? thats interesting... |
| 02:23.28 | bzdoug | but this mobo is also sold by about 6 other manufactures... |
| 02:23.36 | Patlabor221 | OEM |
| 02:23.46 | Patlabor221 | one of them is the person who makes it |
| 02:23.51 | Patlabor221 | and others package and sell it |
| 02:23.53 | Patlabor221 | it's common |
| 02:24.05 | bzdoug | ah |
| 02:24.10 | bzdoug | same part number eh? :) |
| 02:24.11 | Patlabor221 | like lots of comanys use VIA chipsets |
| 02:24.14 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 02:24.20 | Patlabor221 | it's a refrence board most likely |
| 02:24.20 | bzdoug | cool |
| 02:24.47 | bzdoug | I cant seem to find MY motherboard.. but the chips shouldnt change that much between revisions... |
| 02:25.05 | Patlabor221 | you never know |
| 02:25.12 | bzdoug | and my motherboard doesnt have a single marking on it about who made it, or what its part number is |
| 02:25.24 | Patlabor221 | assboard |
| 02:25.31 | bzdoug | heh |
| 02:25.31 | Patlabor221 | where did you get it>? |
| 02:26.05 | bzdoug | friend gave it to me uz he said his dad said it was the motherboard that was fried... so he switched out the mobo and gave me this one |
| 02:26.23 | Patlabor221 | ahh fried assboard |
| 02:26.26 | Patlabor221 | how fun |
| 02:26.35 | Patlabor221 | ohh you will.... you will.... |
| 02:26.47 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 02:26.47 | Patlabor221 | bayy |
| 02:26.55 | bzdoug | WOOF! |
| 02:27.02 | bzdoug | ! |
| 02:27.10 | bzdoug | the network driver is 10 megs |
| 02:27.12 | Patlabor221 | @ |
| 02:27.19 | Patlabor221 | assssssss borad |
| 02:27.23 | bzdoug | :) |
| 02:29.16 | Patlabor221 | d00d zip drive |
| 02:29.22 | bzdoug | bah |
| 02:29.32 | bzdoug | I seen my share of zips die |
| 02:29.38 | Patlabor221 | so |
| 02:29.45 | bzdoug | and there slow |
| 02:29.55 | Patlabor221 | still would be better then wasting an assload of cds for this |
| 02:30.00 | Patlabor221 | take it out when you are done |
| 02:30.03 | bzdoug | CD-RW!!!! |
| 02:30.05 | bzdoug | :P |
| 02:30.18 | Patlabor221 | I'll bet a zip is still faster then a burn |
| 02:30.22 | bzdoug | yea... |
| 02:30.32 | Patlabor221 | so SHADDDAP |
| 02:30.32 | bzdoug | but I dont need zips that oftan... |
| 02:30.37 | bzdoug | I have a network |
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| 02:30.47 | Patlabor221 | unitll you don't have net drivers |
| 02:30.58 | Patlabor221 | yay bicat closed |
| 02:31.45 | bzdoug | HAH! |
| 02:31.57 | bzdoug | the win 2000 drivers are 132 KB... |
| 02:32.10 | bzdoug | but nooo, they include drivers for ever OS on the planet... |
| 02:32.50 | victorvdl | For what hardware? |
| 02:33.02 | bzdoug | onboard ethernet card |
| 02:33.07 | bzdoug | ugh ugh ugh |
| 02:33.11 | bzdoug | times 50 |
| 02:33.32 | bzdoug | and no mouse either... |
| 02:36.40 | bzdoug | woo |
| 02:36.52 | bzdoug | it can change ethernet card drivers without rebooting |
| 02:43.52 | bzdoug | sorta |
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| 02:53.20 | bzdoug | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 02:53.30 | Patlabor221 | wussssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! |
| 02:53.50 | lurgyman | 47 large inflatable chickens |
| 02:53.56 | lurgyman | ps afx |
| 02:53.59 | Patlabor221 | schweeeet! |
| 02:54.03 | bzdoug | lurgyman: cool |
| 02:54.45 | bzdoug | ~convert 420 km to miles |
| 02:55.03 | lurgyman | what a ridiculous distance |
| 02:55.14 | bzdoug | lurgyman: whys that? |
| 02:55.35 | Patlabor221 | cus it's 58 furlongs |
| 02:55.38 | lurgyman | well... 260.976... just a ridiculous distance... |
| 02:56.00 | Patlabor221 | If I was NASA I wold just round to 261 |
| 02:56.05 | bzdoug | uh huh, well thats how the Honda Civic GX can go on a tank |
| 02:56.16 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 02:56.16 | Patlabor221 | not with your fat ass in it |
| 02:56.28 | bzdoug | natural gas |
| 02:56.33 | bzdoug | ie farts |
| 02:57.07 | bzdoug | lol |
| 02:57.27 | bzdoug | electrorheological fluid |
| 02:57.31 | bzdoug | ever hear of that? |
| 02:57.52 | bzdoug | Cadillac XLR: The most novel feature is a ride-damping device based on an electrorheological fluid |
| 02:59.53 | Patlabor221 | I am soooo high I can hear everrrrr. I am soo high I can hear everrrrr, I am soo high I can hear heaven........ |
| 03:00.09 | bzdoug | lay off the glue |
| 03:00.21 | Patlabor221 | glue is for sticking things together man |
| 03:00.46 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 03:00.55 | Patlabor221 | you realy need to listen to more music |
| 03:02.48 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/darkmoor/SoundTracks/Spiderman/Spiderman%20-%2002%20-%20Chad%20Kroeger,%20Joesy%20Scott%20-%20Hero%20.mp3 |
| 03:05.32 | bzdoug | askslashdot |
| 03:05.32 | bzdoug | Feb 22 |
| 03:05.32 | bzdoug | (11 recent) |
| 03:05.33 | bzdoug | :) |
| 03:05.38 | bzdoug | its not 22 yet |
| 03:05.41 | bzdoug | at least for us |
| 03:06.51 | Patlabor221 | just get the song |
| 03:06.59 | Patlabor221 | you may actualy likeit |
| 03:07.05 | Patlabor221 | nice acustics |
| 03:07.14 | Patlabor221 | and it's even in english |
| 03:07.19 | bzdoug | lol |
| 03:13.22 | TimRiker | woohoo, got to 98 players today. |
| 03:13.33 | Patlabor221 | that's a goodly number |
| 03:14.22 | TimRiker | it's a record for the 3 days I've been tracking it on http://list.bzflag.org/ ;-) |
| 03:15.18 | Patlabor221 | blue line is players? |
| 03:22.23 | TimRiker | blue is servers. Click the graph to get details (like it says on the top of the page) |
| 03:39.19 | Patlabor221 | I still find it amazing that 152 people have registerd for bzbb |
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| 05:52.02 | Jormungandr | hrm. does newest cvs unfix the pyramid fixes? |
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| 05:53.33 | Jormungandr | hi MAC |
| 05:55.47 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 05:56.49 | Jormungandr | do you know if the newest cvs "unfixes" the pyramid fixes? |
| 05:59.27 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 05:59.34 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 05:59.53 | Jormungandr | I had a very frustrating few minutes with WaterDecks |
| 06:57.47 | MrApathyCream | slow month |
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| 07:21.01 | scanlemon | <-- proton |
| 07:38.02 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen_captain_proton? |
| 07:38.03 | | I believe he mentioned going out to buy a valentine's gift for his sweetums. |
| 08:14.20 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen anyone? |
| 08:14.20 | | MrApathyCream: i haven't seen 'anyone' |
| 08:14.25 | MrApathyCream | me neither |
| 08:23.49 | MrApathyCream | ibot, is anyone doing any bz dev anymore? |
| 08:23.49 | | wish i knew, MrApathyCream |
| 08:23.53 | MrApathyCream | me too |
| 08:26.38 | MrApathyCream | ibot, are we ever releasing g2? |
| 08:26.39 | | MrApathyCream: bugger all, i dunno |
| 08:26.45 | MrApathyCream | i dunno either... *sigh* |
| 08:27.13 | scanlemon | MrApathyCream: you sound sad |
| 08:28.32 | MrApathyCream | ibot, i should just go to bed? |
| 08:28.33 | | yup looks like no more interest exists around here |
| 08:28.37 | MrApathyCream | ok, later |
| 08:28.45 | scanlemon | 'night sweety |
| 08:29.02 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 08:29.10 | MrApathyCream | building a friendship with ibot |
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| 08:56.39 | bzdoug | greetings |
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| 09:03.42 | clq | ibot clq |
| 09:03.43 | | you are probably has a nice face |
| 09:05.01 | clq | ibot clq |
| 09:05.02 | | i guess clq is has a nice face |
| 09:05.12 | clq | ibot clq is back after a long pause |
| 09:05.14 | | ...but clq is already something else... |
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| 09:23.02 | ak|ra | hi |
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| 09:25.46 | clq | I have a problem with bz: |
| 09:26.24 | clq | I have windows xp and when i try to start bz my comp locks up |
| 09:26.31 | clq | Anyone know why? |
| 09:30.22 | ak|ra | use linux |
| 09:30.56 | clq | i havent got linux |
| 09:31.16 | ak|ra | its free, you can download it |
| 09:31.17 | ak|ra | :) |
| 09:31.56 | clq | is there any way to make it work in win? |
| 09:36.38 | clq | any suggestions? |
| 09:40.37 | ak|ra | not for me |
| 09:40.43 | ak|ra | i dont use any kind of win32 |
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| 09:44.43 | clq | I have a problem with bz: |
| 09:44.49 | clq | I have windows xp and when i try to start bz my comp locks up |
| 09:45.15 | ak|ra | captain hates windows too |
| 09:45.16 | ak|ra | :) |
| 09:45.23 | clq | ok then |
| 09:45.27 | clq | well well |
| 09:46.24 | captain_proton | i was actually in windows a good deal today |
| 09:46.28 | captain_proton | playing starship titanic =) |
| 09:46.44 | ak|ra | :))) |
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| 12:39.14 | calico | morning all |
| 12:39.40 | Chestal | hi calico |
| 12:44.32 | [dmp] | hi |
| 12:59.08 | [TeA|TrEE] | hello cal over here ;o) |
| 12:59.19 | [TeA|TrEE] | hello to all anyhow ;o) forgot |
| 14:21.08 | [TeA|TrEE] | cheater on hash |
| 14:21.18 | [TeA|TrEE] | 3047152 his nick |
| 14:21.50 | [TeA|TrEE] | hese got sorta tiny , super bullet , highspeed , repaidfire ... cant kill him in one tank |
| 14:22.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducati5 |
| 14:22.15 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducati6 |
| 14:24.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | on hashmark |
| 14:24.58 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzfquerylog bzflag.hashmark.org:5156 |
| 14:24.58 | | [TeA|TrEE]: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 14:25.08 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzfquerylong bzflag.hashmark.org:5156 |
| 14:25.11 | | [TeA|TrEE]: I give up, what is it? |
| 14:25.23 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzfquery bzflag.hashmark.org:5156 |
| 14:25.30 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmm |
| 14:25.40 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzfquery bzflag.hashmark.org:5156 |
| 14:47.47 | jraitala | hello |
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| 14:52.56 | doughecka | greetings |
| 14:53.10 | doughecka | whaaaat? |
| 14:53.26 | doughecka | I dint even say anything! |
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| 15:03.48 | doughecka | "truss the pid," sed the grep. |
| 15:03.51 | ak|ra_ | re |
| 15:03.56 | doughecka | 'lo ak|ra_ |
| 15:04.51 | doughecka | ~convert librarys of congress to megs |
| 15:05.02 | doughecka | huh |
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| 15:49.03 | doughecka | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 15:49.38 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 15:52.00 | doughecka | Coatesville, PA ? |
| 15:52.03 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:52.22 | MrApathyCream | isp |
| 15:52.31 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:16.54 | [TeA|TrEE] | somewone there? |
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| 16:27.21 | doughecka | greetings |
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| 18:01.43 | Cell | juhu |
| 18:03.46 | Cell | i want to improve my grid in my 3d editor, it already automatically changes the grid resolution according to the camera position and orientation, now i want to enhance this to support a grid that is displayed on selected poly in the polys local frame |
| 18:04.36 | Patlabor221 | use butter |
| 18:06.13 | Cell | the most dificult part is to handle the grid assmblance when the viewing frustum lookink at vector is near parrallel to the grid plane |
| 18:06.37 | Patlabor221 | or you could do the butter thing |
| 18:07.07 | Cell | Patlabor221:your grid is rather static, do you snap to grid, i look |
| 18:07.17 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 18:07.24 | Patlabor221 | it's just a refrence |
| 18:08.06 | Patlabor221 | that way I don't need butter |
| 18:08.15 | Patlabor221 | too much saturated fat. |
| 18:09.27 | Cell | you know i want to achieve the following: if i create a box on the basse grid and rotate it, then i want to create a box on top of the first box, so i want to select the first box and have agrid displayed on its top |
| 18:09.41 | Patlabor221 | ahhh,.... |
| 18:09.44 | Patlabor221 | margirine |
| 18:09.58 | Patlabor221 | then just code it up |
| 18:10.25 | Cell | yes its easy expect for the ugly sitiution i described above |
| 18:10.50 | Patlabor221 | then solve the problem |
| 18:10.59 | Cell | i try |
| 18:11.04 | Patlabor221 | it's called design |
| 18:11.06 | Patlabor221 | try some |
| 18:12.45 | Cell | shall i try it on your mfc code? |
| 18:13.08 | Patlabor221 | what ever floats your boat man |
| 18:13.14 | Cell | k |
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| 18:14.41 | Cell | document view architecture, does the view have to draw the content of the scene(doc) or is it better to let another entity draw the scene using the views parameters? |
| 18:14.56 | Patlabor221 | depends on your design |
| 18:15.00 | Patlabor221 | it's all arbitrary |
| 18:15.07 | strayer | hiho :) |
| 18:15.23 | Cell | i descovered that second is better |
| 18:15.25 | Cell | for me |
| 18:15.39 | Patlabor221 | ok, whatever |
| 18:17.32 | trepan | hey Patlabor221, i might want to take you up on doing the MFC conversion, can I take a look at the code? |
| 18:18.05 | Patlabor221 | sure a version is posted on the edit site |
| 18:18.18 | Patlabor221 | I can send you a more recent code set when I get to work |
| 18:18.35 | Patlabor221 | I have too much to do to properly take care of the editopr now |
| 18:18.51 | trepan | ok, deal. mostly finished my little thing, so I'll need something else to do |
| 18:18.53 | Cell | one big design issue is the manipulation of a doc, is it better to use a doc manipulator object that exposes manipulation interfaces or let data of the doc be directly accessible, and how to inform the view that the doc has changed, i using messages for that, the prob is little frequently doc changes force many messages and therefore many view updates |
| 18:19.05 | Patlabor221 | cell, go away |
| 18:19.13 | Patlabor221 | ~bzedit |
| 18:19.14 | | well, bzedit is http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/tarballs/bzedit-2.1.tar.gz on linux http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit for windows |
| 18:19.21 | trepan | thanx |
| 18:19.27 | Patlabor221 | trepan you want the second link |
| 18:19.48 | Patlabor221 | realy only the interface is MFC |
| 18:20.03 | trepan | good ;O) |
| 18:20.04 | Patlabor221 | the map storeage and drawing is all in it's own class |
| 18:20.12 | Patlabor221 | and it's portable |
| 18:20.17 | Patlabor221 | same class cap used |
| 18:20.37 | trepan | on a side note, do you know if someone wrote a text-to-map converter? |
| 18:20.46 | Patlabor221 | maps are text |
| 18:20.58 | Patlabor221 | duko has his calcluator thing |
| 18:21.08 | Patlabor221 | but it's in VB and noone has ever seen it |
| 18:21.19 | Patlabor221 | and there are things that take images and convert them |
| 18:21.29 | Patlabor221 | ohh like letters outa boxes |
| 18:21.33 | Patlabor221 | someone has a script somehwere |
| 18:21.36 | trepan | ah, maybe that's what i'm talking about, image converter |
| 18:21.47 | trepan | ya, like letters outta boxes |
| 18:21.48 | Patlabor221 | there are scripts |
| 18:21.52 | Patlabor221 | I don't know where tho |
| 18:22.01 | trepan | i've already got arcs outta boxes, so now i'll throw in letters |
| 18:23.10 | trepan | i like mine ;) (it's decent, IMHO) |
| 18:23.22 | Patlabor221 | it's a start |
| 18:23.34 | Cell | whats wrong with the map format? |
| 18:23.34 | Patlabor221 | my format has your stuff in it, and more |
| 18:23.40 | Patlabor221 | it's to fixxed |
| 18:23.57 | trepan | more? what else do you have? |
| 18:24.01 | Patlabor221 | but I am also looking at something more then just a "plane with some stuff on it" type map |
| 18:24.10 | Patlabor221 | more data items per object |
| 18:24.19 | Patlabor221 | things like spawns |
| 18:24.19 | trepan | spawns? |
| 18:24.20 | Patlabor221 | all sorts of stuff |
| 18:24.31 | Patlabor221 | yes where you say "people spawn here" |
| 18:24.33 | Patlabor221 | in the map |
| 18:24.37 | Cell | ah |
| 18:24.39 | Patlabor221 | or like objects that spawn |
| 18:24.47 | Cell | my idea |
| 18:24.48 | Patlabor221 | also full world controll |
| 18:24.55 | Patlabor221 | cell, that is not a new idea |
| 18:25.00 | Cell | k |
| 18:25.05 | Patlabor221 | they kinda you know did it in quake. |
| 18:25.24 | trepan | same format, couple of new keywords... |
| 18:25.33 | Patlabor221 | little cleaner format |
| 18:26.11 | Cell | it would be also nice to have a big gate that has a display that shows the actuall news, or stocks from yahoo finance, so text to texture would be ab isuue considering this |
| 18:26.29 | Patlabor221 | cell seriously go away |
| 18:26.31 | trepan | well thx Pat, i'll see how hard it is to #idef the MFC stuff out |
| 18:26.40 | Patlabor221 | ohh don't #defin it |
| 18:26.44 | Patlabor221 | you can't |
| 18:26.46 | Patlabor221 | rip it |
| 18:26.48 | Patlabor221 | completely |
| 18:26.52 | Cell | Patlabor221: this is a serious proposal |
| 18:27.06 | Patlabor221 | cell, that is just silly |
| 18:27.11 | Cell | why? |
| 18:27.13 | trepan | replace with what? |
| 18:27.18 | Patlabor221 | shows you have no clue of prioritys |
| 18:27.28 | Patlabor221 | MFC implies a framework |
| 18:27.29 | Cell | ridiculous, your opinion |
| 18:27.32 | Patlabor221 | I don't even have a main |
| 18:27.42 | Patlabor221 | cell go away, noone has respect for you anymore |
| 18:27.51 | trepan | ah, ouch... not fond of the windows world... |
| 18:27.53 | Cell | oh thats all you can say |
| 18:27.56 | Cell | to me |
| 18:28.13 | Patlabor221 | cell, that's all I care to spend the time to say |
| 18:28.20 | Patlabor221 | trepan, it's just mfc |
| 18:28.29 | Patlabor221 | it would be better to do it in regular windows |
| 18:28.33 | Patlabor221 | then you could #def it out |
| 18:28.51 | trepan | not gonna happen... i'm on a linux box for the most part |
| 18:29.05 | Patlabor221 | I used MFC not for portability but for rapid protyping |
| 18:29.23 | Patlabor221 | then pull what you need, and put the interface into a decent wraper |
| 18:29.32 | Patlabor221 | then it can be reiplemented on windows |
| 18:29.44 | trepan | i'll take a whack at it, no promises |
| 18:29.46 | Patlabor221 | basicly don't try to keep the mfc, there is no reason |
| 18:29.49 | trepan | ciao |
| 18:29.55 | Patlabor221 | have fun |
| 18:30.25 | Cell | Patlabor221: whats the Pocket engine? |
| 18:30.26 | Patlabor221 | I'll post up the current code too when I get to that office that has it. |
| 18:30.35 | Patlabor221 | a gl setup dll |
| 18:30.50 | Cell | ah |
| 18:31.01 | Patlabor221 | lets you add a gl window to any windows window in about 4 lines of code |
| 18:31.16 | Patlabor221 | LGE is the same thing but uses SDL |
| 18:31.20 | Patlabor221 | for portability |
| 18:31.30 | Cell | building |
| 18:31.55 | Cell | 0 errors 18 warnings |
| 18:32.09 | Patlabor221 | can you see how I am containing my joy? |
| 18:32.57 | Cell | containing joy? what does that mean? |
| 18:33.34 | Cell | textureManager.dll could not be found |
| 18:33.41 | Patlabor221 | then I would get that |
| 18:33.51 | Cell | its extra |
| 18:34.52 | Patlabor221 | should be inthere |
| 18:36.35 | Cell | what about the classes worl model how are they related? |
| 18:36.52 | Patlabor221 | the world is the world |
| 18:36.56 | Patlabor221 | it has ojbects |
| 18:37.00 | Patlabor221 | objects draw models |
| 18:37.05 | Patlabor221 | simple as PIE! |
| 18:37.23 | Cell | whats the diff between models and objects? |
| 18:37.42 | Patlabor221 | models draw |
| 18:37.51 | Patlabor221 | objects don't |
| 18:38.07 | Patlabor221 | objcets can be made of multiple models |
| 18:38.13 | Patlabor221 | like the box |
| 18:38.15 | Patlabor221 | and the base |
| 18:38.20 | Patlabor221 | and the teleporter |
| 18:38.25 | Patlabor221 | they all have 2 models |
| 18:38.31 | Cell | why? |
| 18:38.34 | Patlabor221 | the box and the base can use the same model |
| 18:38.38 | Patlabor221 | the box has sides |
| 18:38.40 | Patlabor221 | and a top |
| 18:38.44 | Patlabor221 | the base also has sides |
| 18:38.46 | Patlabor221 | but a difrent top |
| 18:38.56 | Cell | so different mat ids |
| 18:39.14 | Patlabor221 | they could also have difrent behavor |
| 18:39.24 | Patlabor221 | and textures and colors |
| 18:39.50 | Cell | ok, thanks |
| 18:39.52 | Patlabor221 | the models are sorted by texture |
| 18:40.56 | Cell | i use BaseObject in my 3d editor too as base calss for the geometry objects |
| 18:41.21 | Cell | what a coincident |
| 18:41.34 | Cell | 3d studio max sdk does too :) |
| 18:42.25 | Cell | how do you build up a hierarchie? |
| 18:42.31 | Cell | tree? |
| 18:44.00 | Cell | firs look at the CBaseObject virtuals, thats interesting |
| 18:49.14 | Cell | why dint you made the Box ident not CBox? |
| 18:55.33 | Patlabor221 | I have a base class too |
| 18:55.37 | Cell | ah you put all the geometry data in the models display list, and that for each model, little bit waste of data, better to use one model instance be referenced by all boxes |
| 18:55.40 | Patlabor221 | cap don't like C |
| 18:55.51 | Patlabor221 | so did box not cBox |
| 18:56.21 | Patlabor221 | cell, since bz boxes are parametric youcan't use one list |
| 18:56.32 | Patlabor221 | so each size needs it's own list |
| 18:56.41 | Patlabor221 | since it's not a simple scale |
| 18:57.04 | Patlabor221 | simple scale would strech the texture, bz does not strech the texture, it repeats it. |
| 18:57.04 | Cell | u mean the texture scale, because the other one is simple |
| 18:57.09 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 18:57.14 | Patlabor221 | so it would not look like in game |
| 18:57.23 | Cell | ah, k |
| 18:57.31 | Patlabor221 | shows how little you know of the game |
| 18:58.27 | Cell | oh, it gets more an more, just takes its time |
| 18:59.40 | Cell | ok, now i get some ideas how the editor draws its stuff, i look at the user input next |
| 19:03.13 | Patlabor221 | again joy containment is almost failing |
| 19:03.46 | Cell | yes the grid should not write into the z-buffer, when drawn last |
| 19:06.09 | Patlabor221 | well I must be making a run to the border |
| 19:06.11 | Cell | i change the grid drawing with my editors grid drawing, looks better and has vie dependent resolution |
| 19:06.45 | Cell | just have to get the camera or view data |
| 19:07.27 | Patlabor221 | but then the grid units don't mean anything |
| 19:07.37 | Patlabor221 | mine show fineine increments |
| 19:07.44 | Patlabor221 | well you have fun |
| 19:07.58 | Patlabor221 | don't hurt your brain too much |
| 19:08.36 | Cell | oh the grid resoluion can be set |
| 19:08.58 | Cell | as in 3d studio |
| 19:09.24 | Patlabor221 | what ever you say. |
| 19:09.44 | Patlabor221 | I have to go buy CDs, and ponder the eternal hybrid engine. |
| 19:10.22 | Cell | you can download a version with new grid from my page in one hour |
| 19:10.40 | Patlabor221 | why would I want to? |
| 19:10.52 | Cell | to see if you like it? |
| 19:11.02 | Patlabor221 | I don't do much at all with the editor |
| 19:11.17 | Patlabor221 | but we shall see if you are done at 12:11 |
| 19:11.25 | Cell | k :9 |
| 19:21.43 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@rikers.org) |
| 19:21.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 19:21.57 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 19:27.21 | doughecka | 'lo TimRiker |
| 19:27.57 | Cell | how do i specify that a projects dll the main project is dependent on is outputted into same debug dir in vc7.0 |
| 19:28.11 | Cell | ? |
| 19:28.41 | *** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (~4021f117@203.194.240.139) |
| 19:28.45 | TimRiker | Cell: no idea. |
| 19:28.53 | [STC]_creeperz | Hi, Tim |
| 19:29.20 | TimRiker | [STC]_creeperz: hey. |
| 19:29.33 | [STC]_creeperz | He knows my name! |
| 19:30.28 | [STC]_creeperz | What's up? |
| 19:31.30 | [STC]_creeperz | Haha, "Can I write a check?" "Yo" "Yao" "Yo" "Yao!" "....Yo!" "Can I write a check?" "YO!" |
| 19:32.13 | [STC]_creeperz | Who wants to see a funny site? |
| 19:32.40 | [STC]_creeperz | ....I'm posting it anyway! |
| 19:33.05 | [STC]_creeperz | http://www.octanecreative.com/Parodyville/driveby/index.html |
| 19:33.29 | [STC]_creeperz | Those pics will keep yu' busy for a while! ;) |
| 19:33.41 | [STC]_creeperz | ...They're funny. |
| 19:33.52 | Chestal | ever heard of deja vu? |
| 19:34.06 | [STC]_creeperz | ...Didn't you say that earlier?! |
| 19:34.25 | [STC]_creeperz | MY GOD!! I'm confused!! |
| 19:34.31 | [STC]_creeperz | ...or am I? |
| 19:34.36 | Chestal | no, I think I said it earlier |
| 19:34.39 | [STC]_creeperz | ~kill creeperz |
| 19:34.41 | | ACTION slits creeperz's throat |
| 19:34.52 | [STC]_creeperz | ~suicide |
| 19:35.05 | [STC]_creeperz | That needs to be a command |
| 19:35.37 | Chestal | Tim: when a layer accidentally brings own team flag to enemy base, team dies and gets a score decrease, but the team owning the base doesn't get a +1 score. This might cause problems when you think of matches |
| 19:36.09 | [STC]_creeperz | It makes up a funny expression add-on like "* ibot walks over and shoots [uname] in between the eyes." |
| 19:36.47 | [STC]_creeperz | ....Or the ibot shoves heeps of pills down your throat! |
| 19:37.20 | TimRiker | Chestal: it's intentional. the other team did not do anything to earn a point. |
| 19:37.47 | [STC]_creeperz | Tim: How about a flag that, when you fire a bullet, there is a small radius shockwave around the shell |
| 19:37.48 | Chestal | TimRiker: yes, but it can easily be abused. When my team flag is near enemy base, I'll just commit suicide by bringing it to them. So the other team won't score |
| 19:37.54 | Chestal | (when it's a lost case anyway) |
| 19:39.01 | [STC]_creeperz | What were you eating under there??! |
| 19:39.57 | [STC]_creeperz | I bet you I can make you say blue! |
| 19:40.30 | [STC]_creeperz | I mean black |
| 19:40.47 | [STC]_creeperz | What are the colors of the American flag? |
| 19:41.44 | [STC]_creeperz | "Red, white, and blue?" |
| 19:41.57 | [STC]_creeperz | HAHA!! I made you saw blue! |
| 19:42.13 | [STC]_creeperz | "You said black!" |
| 19:42.29 | [STC]_creeperz | HAHA!! I made you say black! |
| 19:43.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Anyone here? |
| 19:43.17 | [STC]_creeperz | ~seen TimRiker |
| 19:43.17 | | timriker is currently on #elinux (21m 34s) #utah (21m 34s) #bzflag (21m 34s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 5m 57s |
| 19:43.47 | TimRiker | Chestal: team scores take both teams points into account do they not? |
| 19:44.35 | [STC]_creeperz | Where is the Chris guy who made BZFlag? |
| 19:44.58 | TimRiker | he's here as crs once in a while. not lately though. |
| 19:45.01 | TimRiker | ~seen crs |
| 19:45.03 | | i haven't seen 'crs', TimRiker |
| 19:45.07 | TimRiker | ~seen crs23 |
| 19:45.08 | | i haven't seen 'crs23', TimRiker |
| 19:45.18 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh, is that who that is? |
| 19:45.25 | TimRiker | yep |
| 19:45.27 | [STC]_creeperz | How old are yu Tim? |
| 19:45.34 | Jormungandr | how much is bzflag like the old xtank? |
| 19:45.43 | TimRiker | turning 40 this year |
| 19:46.01 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: hmm. never played xtank. |
| 19:46.01 | [STC]_creeperz | Really?! Dang, man! You don't look that old! |
| 19:46.06 | TimRiker | heh |
| 19:46.10 | [STC]_creeperz | What is xtank? |
| 19:46.11 | Jormungandr | I turned 41 in November. |
| 19:46.22 | [STC]_creeperz | My dad is 62 |
| 19:47.07 | [STC]_creeperz | I'm 13 |
| 19:47.09 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 19:47.11 | Jormungandr | that's the wierd thing about this project. |
| 19:47.22 | Jormungandr | it attracts such a broad range |
| 19:47.31 | [STC]_creeperz | ...o thats cool |
| 19:47.49 | Jormungandr | I think MAC has us all outdone re: age. |
| 19:47.50 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 19:48.02 | [STC]_creeperz | heh |
| 19:48.15 | [STC]_creeperz | How old is MAC? |
| 19:48.17 | Jormungandr | it's nice to not always be the oldest one when it comes to internet stuff. |
| 19:48.19 | doughecka | 90 |
| 19:48.21 | doughecka | :P |
| 19:48.21 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 19:48.25 | doughecka | errrr |
| 19:48.28 | doughecka | 30 |
| 19:48.28 | Jormungandr | he says he is in his 60s |
| 19:48.36 | doughecka | I meant lol |
| 19:48.56 | [STC]_creeperz | I thought he was home-schooled still |
| 19:49.13 | Jormungandr | that'd be doug ;) |
| 19:49.18 | [STC]_creeperz | Who wants to be my trainer?? |
| 19:49.25 | hardwire | me |
| 19:49.35 | Jormungandr | heh. I am not the best player to be training people. |
| 19:49.41 | Jormungandr | although, I'm getting better. |
| 19:49.41 | doughecka | MAC was homeschooled |
| 19:49.42 | [STC]_creeperz | I used to be awesome...in the beginning, now I suck |
| 19:49.56 | doughecka | and noodleman is also homeschooled too |
| 19:49.57 | Jormungandr | I am constantly improving. |
| 19:50.02 | [STC]_creeperz | In the Genises I think we all rocked, ay? |
| 19:50.08 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 19:50.11 | Jormungandr | genesis |
| 19:50.21 | [STC]_creeperz | DO I REALLY CARE?!!!!! |
| 19:50.24 | Jormungandr | ;) |
| 19:50.29 | [STC]_creeperz | ;-) |
| 19:50.35 | [STC]_creeperz | " |
| 19:50.39 | [STC]_creeperz | oopz |
| 19:51.04 | Jormungandr | the ISP I worked for for a long time, that got sucked into the globalcrossing mayhem, has a bunch of users gathering this afternoon to talk about old times. |
| 19:51.04 | [STC]_creeperz | :*^} |
| 19:51.25 | doughecka | hehe |
| 19:51.32 | [STC]_creeperz | Lol, can I get free internet here?! lol |
| 19:51.51 | Jormungandr | we were a pretty tight knit group of users. |
| 19:51.55 | Jormungandr | and employees |
| 19:52.19 | [STC]_creeperz | I hate my ISP, I want to kinda go back to AOL... fewer disconnects on BZFlag |
| 19:52.32 | Jormungandr | ACK! AOL?! eeeew. |
| 19:52.33 | Jormungandr | ;) |
| 19:52.38 | *** kick/#BZFlag [shut!timr@rikers.org] by TimRiker (TimRiker) |
| 19:52.47 | Jormungandr | thanks tim |
| 19:52.55 | [STC]_creeperz | CRAP!! This is like, my 2nd year on BZFlag! |
| 19:53.01 | doughecka | yay |
| 19:53.05 | [STC]_creeperz | Who's bot is shut? |
| 19:53.14 | doughecka | scanline |
| 19:53.26 | [STC]_creeperz | ...I miss NoodleBot |
| 19:53.31 | Jormungandr | this year will be my 10th year of having dragon.org on the internet. |
| 19:53.37 | doughecka | no you dont |
| 19:53.40 | doughecka | Jormungandr: wow |
| 19:53.41 | Jormungandr | we are gunna have a huge birthday party for it in Phoenix. |
| 19:54.04 | [STC]_creeperz | Really? |
| 19:54.09 | Jormungandr | yup |
| 19:54.43 | Jormungandr | Record created on 05-Oct-1993. |
| 19:54.45 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 19:54.55 | Jormungandr | we have to wait until october, though. :) |
| 19:55.02 | [STC]_creeperz | What is dragon.org? |
| 19:55.02 | doughecka | hah |
| 19:55.37 | Jormungandr | it's my personal domain. been hosting mailing lists and websites on it for a while. |
| 19:55.41 | Jormungandr | tim, no, actually. |
| 19:55.41 | [STC]_creeperz | Huh? |
| 19:56.37 | Jormungandr | I had a very powerful mystical experience in 1980, which connected me with Kundalini and other draconic imagery |
| 19:56.39 | [STC]_creeperz | Today's big story would probally be the fact that I got 45 pins over my average today! ;-) |
| 19:56.52 | Jormungandr | oh, cool. congrats. :) |
| 19:57.25 | [STC]_creeperz | There should be a small smoke trail from the tank jumpping. |
| 19:57.31 | [STC]_creeperz | jumping* |
| 19:57.57 | [STC]_creeperz | And a better sound than *BOING* It should be more of a *TSSSSSSST* |
| 19:58.00 | Jormungandr | in fact, I did my discertation on correlation between feminism in history as it correlates to dragon mythology. |
| 19:58.14 | [STC]_creeperz | really? |
| 19:58.18 | Jormungandr | yup |
| 19:58.20 | [STC]_creeperz | I don't get it :) |
| 19:58.23 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 19:58.41 | [STC]_creeperz | ...Really. |
| 19:58.50 | hardwire | STC? |
| 19:58.58 | Jormungandr | I was inspired by the story of Tiamat and Marduk. |
| 19:59.04 | [STC]_creeperz | Spine Tinglaz Clan |
| 19:59.15 | hardwire | yeh? |
| 19:59.35 | TimRiker | wild. Jormungandr... hmm. Cameron is male or female? |
| 19:59.35 | doughecka | 'lo hardwire |
| 19:59.36 | hardwire | I will have you know my spine is firmly placed.. I cannot be part of your clan. |
| 19:59.39 | hardwire | hi doughecka |
| 19:59.44 | doughecka | get your license yet? :) |
| 19:59.44 | Jormungandr | Tim, male. |
| 19:59.51 | hardwire | doughecka: nope... packin bits ATM |
| 19:59.55 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:59.58 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, stc? |
| 20:00.13 | hardwire | ibot STC is Silly Trauma Child |
| 20:00.14 | [STC]_creeperz | UUGH!!!! |
| 20:00.19 | Jormungandr | tim, I did my work at a high point in the feminist movement. |
| 20:00.25 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: the experience was I good one I guess, if it got you into more study. cool. |
| 20:00.28 | hardwire | I think I broke ibot a while back |
| 20:00.30 | Jormungandr | and since my phd is in theology. |
| 20:00.32 | hardwire | like a few minutes ago |
| 20:00.37 | Jormungandr | it fit rather well at the time. |
| 20:00.43 | TimRiker | ibot: help |
| 20:00.44 | hardwire | I forgot a ) in a calculation |
| 20:00.49 | doughecka | hardwire: http://shark.dls.net/~jmeehan/balloon/ |
| 20:01.11 | hardwire | TimRiker: I did a 2048 + ((31931 *24) |
| 20:01.15 | hardwire | and it stopped responding |
| 20:01.21 | doughecka | lol |
| 20:01.25 | doughecka | ~2048 + ((31931 *24) |
| 20:03.26 | *** join/#bzflag ibot (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 20:03.26 | *** topic/#bzflag is Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.bzflag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag "PREZDAY" for $5 off on >$40 orders |
| 20:03.26 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 20:03.35 | hardwire | thta and I hate reaching for [ just to tab complet your name :) |
| 20:03.45 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 20:04.00 | hardwire | TimRiker: well.. duuuh |
| 20:04.01 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, stc? |
| 20:04.02 | | somebody said stc was spine tinglaz clan, name property of [STC] creeperz |
| 20:04.09 | TimRiker | ~2048 + ((31931 *24) |
| 20:04.19 | [STC]_creeperz | ~iplist |
| 20:04.22 | [STC]_creeperz | lol |
| 20:04.48 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lart himself |
| 20:04.57 | [STC]_creeperz | lol |
| 20:04.57 | hardwire | he lives! |
| 20:05.04 | hardwire | ~5 + 2 |
| 20:05.11 | hardwire | sorta |
| 20:05.19 | [STC]_creeperz | ~5+2 |
| 20:05.31 | [STC]_creeperz | ~add 5, 2 |
| 20:05.40 | [STC]_creeperz | ~subtract 5, 2 |
| 20:05.42 | Chestal | something similar applies to individual scores in theory (and might be a problem when you think of 1-1 matches), but that cannot be changed in a meaningful way (because you have noone to assign the win to) |
| 20:05.56 | [STC]_creeperz | ~bzflist |
| 20:06.19 | [STC]_creeperz | Whats playing on NoodleDom? |
| 20:06.33 | Chestal | I guess as long as no teams with an ill attitude play, it's not a problem, and a referee coudl always decide what the real score is |
| 20:07.15 | [STC]_creeperz | Tim: Can you make a non-cvs client that provides snow and set weather as server option? |
| 20:07.41 | [STC]_creeperz | by in-game command / weather [type] |
| 20:08.06 | [STC]_creeperz | That would be cool |
| 20:08.45 | BZFlag | [STC]_creeperz: not at present. patches welcome. won't happen in 1.8 cause it's dead. need to do it in 1.7 at some point. not a priority though, net improvements and cheat protection are. |
| 20:08.59 | BZFlag | ibot: 1+1 |
| 20:09.00 | | it has been said that 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 20:09.04 | BZFlag | ibot: 1+4 |
| 20:09.05 | | 5 |
| 20:09.05 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
| 20:09.11 | BZFlag | ~timriker |
| 20:09.12 | | well, bzflag is mailto:Tim@Rikers.org or the former CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) and maintainer of the 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming |
| 20:09.22 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot: 5+95 |
| 20:09.22 | | 100 |
| 20:09.24 | TimRiker | ~timriker |
| 20:09.25 | | i heard bzflag is mailto:Tim@Rikers.org or the former CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) and maintainer of the 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming |
| 20:09.32 | hardwire | thats one long description of bzflag |
| 20:09.48 | [STC]_creeperz | mac, osx :) |
| 20:09.49 | Chestal | uh, politics on bzflag centrum |
| 20:09.54 | Jormungandr | tim, how do you set a channel key in blootbot.chan ? |
| 20:10.13 | Chestal | american media is left wing, uhm, that one strikes me, but I guess it's better not to add more bait to that thread |
| 20:10.29 | [STC]_creeperz | bzbb.homelinux.net? |
| 20:10.48 | [STC]_creeperz | homelinu¤.net? |
| 20:10.57 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: "ibot: +chan #newchannel" then "ibot: chanset #newchan +autojoin" etc. |
| 20:11.32 | [STC]_creeperz | ƒ |
| 20:11.33 | Jormungandr | the channel is already set for autojoin |
| 20:11.37 | hardwire | wtf? |
| 20:11.42 | [STC]_creeperz | Huh? |
| 20:11.44 | Jormungandr | it's just that the channel is +k |
| 20:11.47 | hardwire | I apparently don't have that char in this font |
| 20:11.56 | [STC]_creeperz | hat you mean? |
| 20:12.11 | [STC]_creeperz | What* |
| 20:12.17 | hardwire | http://crud.bogomip.com/nochar.png |
| 20:12.18 | [STC]_creeperz | alt+159 |
| 20:12.48 | [STC]_creeperz | ...cooooool |
| 20:12.55 | hardwire | ? |
| 20:12.58 | Jormungandr | well, we gotta head out for the GT. back later. |
| 20:13.00 | Jormungandr | & |
| 20:13.25 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
| 20:13.46 | [STC]_creeperz | £100! |
| 20:14.22 | [STC]_creeperz | Å ...That looks weird! |
| 20:14.41 | hardwire | looks fine here :) |
| 20:14.57 | [STC]_creeperz | haha |
| 20:16.06 | [STC]_creeperz | ¤~¥Ü!!ƒƒj+ƒÑx6x¼à_+_æ4_Ä8è¶<2(FPZ |
| 20:16.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Cool |
| 20:16.20 | hardwire | quit that |
| 20:16.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Alt+13 =Enter |
| 20:16.38 | hardwire | anybody have any experience with the bsddb file format |
| 20:16.41 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
| 20:16.46 | hardwire | <- linux |
| 20:17.00 | hardwire | gcharmap |
| 20:17.01 | [STC]_creeperz | <- Windows ME |
| 20:17.01 | hardwire | heheh |
| 20:17.11 | hardwire | charmap for you |
| 20:17.16 | [STC]_creeperz | I know |
| 20:17.27 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-172-197-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 20:17.38 | [STC]_creeperz | ~kill Patlabor221 |
| 20:17.40 | | ACTION slits Patlabor221's throat |
| 20:17.52 | Patlabor221 | well that's not very nice |
| 20:18.24 | Patlabor221 | having fun with that then are you? |
| 20:18.32 | [STC]_creeperz | Are we! |
| 20:18.45 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, stc? |
| 20:18.46 | | from memory, stc is spine tinglaz clan, name property of [STC] creeperz |
| 20:18.56 | Patlabor221 | munckins on parade |
| 20:19.11 | Cell | whatzs the MFC aquivalent for an ArrayList? |
| 20:19.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Where is everyone from? |
| 20:19.21 | Patlabor221 | vector |
| 20:19.30 | [STC]_creeperz | ~vector |
| 20:19.31 | Cell | aH |
| 20:19.33 | [STC]_creeperz | lol |
| 20:19.36 | Patlabor221 | places other then where you are |
| 20:19.45 | [STC]_creeperz | Cali.? |
| 20:20.58 | Cell | float min_x = float.PositiveInfinity how do i do that in C++ |
| 20:21.08 | Cell | again? |
| 20:22.16 | Patlabor221 | yes californial |
| 20:22.40 | Patlabor221 | max_float or something like that |
| 20:22.49 | [STC]_creeperz | ...The hot sun make you loose brain cells? |
| 20:22.49 | Patlabor221 | it's the normal C way |
| 20:22.54 | Patlabor221 | it's not that hot |
| 20:23.00 | Patlabor221 | bout 80ish today |
| 20:23.09 | Patlabor221 | little breze |
| 20:23.21 | TimRiker | ibot: ~suicide is <reply> see kill ~user |
| 20:23.21 | | okay, TimRiker |
| 20:23.27 | TimRiker | ~suicide |
| 20:23.27 | [STC]_creeperz | its not the heat, its the humidity that gets you |
| 20:23.35 | [STC]_creeperz | ~suicide |
| 20:23.41 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 20:23.45 | Patlabor221 | southern CA is a semi-arid desert |
| 20:23.52 | Patlabor221 | the humidity is rather low |
| 20:23.53 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot: Kill yourself |
| 20:23.54 | | ACTION slits yourself's throat |
| 20:24.03 | [STC]_creeperz | LOL!!!! |
| 20:24.35 | TimRiker | ibot: ~suicide is <reply> see kill me |
| 20:24.36 | | ...but ~suicide is already something else... |
| 20:24.45 | TimRiker | ibot: suicide is <reply> see kill me |
| 20:24.46 | | okay, TimRiker |
| 20:24.52 | [STC]_creeperz | ~suicide |
| 20:24.58 | TimRiker | ibot: forget ~suicide |
| 20:24.58 | | i forgot ~suicide, TimRiker |
| 20:25.08 | [STC]_creeperz | ~suicide |
| 20:25.13 | Patlabor221 | time to clean the house |
| 20:25.35 | *** part/#bzflag trepan (trepan@CPE0040f42db082-CM00e06f15f704.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 20:26.02 | [STC]_creeperz | Tim: why won't ibot kill myself? |
| 20:26.56 | TimRiker | bugs perhaps. |
| 20:26.59 | TimRiker | ~kill me |
| 20:27.00 | | ACTION slits timriker's throat |
| 20:27.07 | [STC]_creeperz | ...That works |
| 20:27.18 | [STC]_creeperz | ~kill me |
| 20:27.20 | | ACTION slits [stc]_creeperz's throat |
| 20:27.43 | [STC]_creeperz | How about a command that kills ibot? Repiditally? |
| 20:27.56 | TimRiker | ~kill ibot |
| 20:27.57 | | ACTION slits ibot's throat |
| 20:27.57 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lart himself |
| 20:28.09 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh, ok lol |
| 20:28.13 | Patlabor221 | it could be a she |
| 20:28.17 | [STC]_creeperz | ~kill his |
| 20:28.18 | | ACTION slits his's throat |
| 20:28.24 | [STC]_creeperz | Haha |
| 20:28.44 | TimRiker | ok, enough. /msg the bot for more playing if you like. |
| 20:28.56 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
| 20:29.22 | [STC]_creeperz | Nahhhhh |
| 20:29.35 | Chestal | Tim: I am not getting CLOSE_WAITS right now, not for about 2 weeks |
| 20:30.32 | Cell | Patlabor221: getCurrentViewRotation does the pocket engine return euler angels or? |
| 20:30.44 | Patlabor221 | yes eulers |
| 20:30.48 | Patlabor221 | since that's what GL takes |
| 20:30.57 | Patlabor221 | just look at the code |
| 20:31.21 | Patlabor221 | it's after 12:11, I see no download. |
| 20:31.53 | [STC]_creeperz | Pat: Update anything lately? |
| 20:32.05 | Cell | ups, my father came from work and gave me a bunch of housework... |
| 20:32.11 | TimRiker | Chestal: I still get them on xmission, but not often. you feeling like release time? |
| 20:32.29 | TimRiker | it's definitely better than g0 in all respects. |
| 20:32.29 | [STC]_creeperz | Tim: wanna fight? |
| 20:32.35 | [STC]_creeperz | BZ style? |
| 20:32.36 | *** kick/#BZFlag [[STC]_creeperz!timr@rikers.org] by TimRiker (TimRiker) |
| 20:32.42 | Chestal | TimRiker: there's still my /countdown issue which I have not found a good solution for, nor the time to discuss it, remmeber it? :-) |
| 20:32.44 | TimRiker | oh, bz style. ;-) |
| 20:33.30 | *** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (~4021f117@203.194.240.139) |
| 20:33.37 | TimRiker | Chestal: I recall sorta. is it any worse than it was? |
| 20:33.39 | [STC]_creeperz | was that for? |
| 20:33.49 | [STC]_creeperz | What was that for?* |
| 20:34.00 | Chestal | TimRiker: well, no. It's simply that I feel the need to be able to do /countdwn on my match server without password |
| 20:34.05 | TimRiker | [STC]_creeperz: <[STC]_creeperz> Tim: wanna fight? ... oh, you meant BZ style. ;-) |
| 20:34.10 | Chestal | there's now the -timemanual option which fixed the autmatic countdown dtart for me |
| 20:34.51 | Chestal | so, there are some options now: make countdown available to everyone, make it available to everyone when -timemanual is used, make it avialable to everyone with an explicit option, or do something else |
| 20:35.10 | Patlabor221 | creeper update on what? |
| 20:35.16 | TimRiker | he left |
| 20:35.22 | Patlabor221 | ohh good |
| 20:35.28 | Chestal | I had him on ignore anyway |
| 20:35.43 | Patlabor221 | I was allmost there for him. |
| 20:35.51 | TimRiker | didn't mean to insult him, he just asked for a fight, and I thought a kick might suffice. ;-) |
| 20:36.10 | Patlabor221 | ohh he's an angry little kid |
| 20:36.10 | *** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (~4021f117@203.194.240.139) |
| 20:36.19 | Patlabor221 | creeper update on what? |
| 20:36.22 | Chestal | is he unique or someone else I know? |
| 20:36.29 | [STC]_creeperz | Any of your sites |
| 20:36.41 | Patlabor221 | bzbb was updated :) |
| 20:36.45 | [STC]_creeperz | Any BZF:0 updates? |
| 20:36.48 | Patlabor221 | so was FOBB |
| 20:36.54 | [STC]_creeperz | FOBB? |
| 20:36.57 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:36.59 | Patlabor221 | another board |
| 20:37.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Never heard of |
| 20:37.17 | Patlabor221 | as it should be |
| 20:37.33 | Patlabor221 | trepan is gonna give a wack at the bzedit code |
| 20:38.09 | Patlabor221 | and I've come up with an interesting hybrid visibility algorithm |
| 20:38.28 | Patlabor221 | and I forgot to do dishes, so it's rather nast in the kitchen at the moment |
| 20:40.51 | [STC]_creeperz | ...My laundry bin is taller than my computer desk... I need to get that done later! |
| 20:41.12 | [STC]_creeperz | In fact, it reaches about over my monitor |
| 20:41.26 | [STC]_creeperz | ....TAPE MEASURE!!! |
| 20:41.50 | [STC]_creeperz | 4" taller than my monitor |
| 20:42.51 | Patlabor221 | ok that's nasty man |
| 20:43.02 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you should do some laundry |
| 20:43.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Lol |
| 20:43.09 | doughecka | lol |
| 20:43.37 | [STC]_creeperz | Who wants to play me in BZFlag? |
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| 20:45.15 | [STC]_creeperz | ~suicide |
| 20:45.33 | [STC]_creeperz | ~kill me |
| 20:45.35 | | ACTION slits [stc]_creeperz's throat |
| 20:45.35 | PatlaCleaning | I'm sure doug will |
| 20:46.03 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot: ~suicide is cool |
| 20:46.04 | | okay, [STC]_creeperz |
| 20:46.07 | [STC]_creeperz | lol |
| 20:46.11 | [STC]_creeperz | ~suicide |
| 20:46.18 | [STC]_creeperz | HAHA!! |
| 20:46.28 | [STC]_creeperz | ...Its not cool... |
| 20:46.40 | [STC]_creeperz | http://www.1-teenage-suicide.com |
| 20:46.50 | PatlaCleaning | ok man calm down |
| 20:47.01 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm? |
| 20:47.54 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, patlabor? |
| 20:47.55 | | hmm... patlabor is can't spell, does smell. |
| 20:48.15 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, patlabor? |
| 20:48.16 | | somebody said patlabor was can't spell, does smell. |
| 20:48.34 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, creeperz? |
| 20:48.35 | | hmm... creeperz is a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank. |
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| 20:51.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh I wish I were an Oscar Meyer weiner! |
| 20:51.25 | [STC]_creeperz | ~spell weiner |
| 20:51.27 | | possible spellings for weiner: Weiner wiener winer Werner veiner weaner whiner weenier winger winier winner wine whinier whine |
| 20:52.02 | [STC]_creeperz | ~dict weiner |
| 20:52.18 | [STC]_creeperz | ~dict wiener |
| 20:52.37 | [STC]_creeperz | LMAO!!! |
| 20:52.53 | [STC]_creeperz | A guy named wiener? He got teased in school!! |
| 20:53.01 | PatlaCleaning | and you want to be a cop? |
| 20:53.11 | [STC]_creeperz | Yes |
| 20:53.14 | [STC]_creeperz | Why? |
| 20:53.37 | [STC]_creeperz | You certainly pose that question alot |
| 20:53.41 | PatlaCleaning | perhaps you should act a little more mature |
| 20:53.49 | [STC]_creeperz | Short term memory? |
| 20:53.51 | PatlaCleaning | well you don't seem to be that stable |
| 20:53.52 | Chestal | Tim: so, any opinion on the countdown stuff as explained above? |
| 20:54.07 | [STC]_creeperz | OWW!! I just fell out of my chair! |
| 20:54.15 | Chestal | I know that MAC really wants to release because development has stalled for some weeks |
| 20:54.21 | [STC]_creeperz | And now I have a headache |
| 20:54.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Note to self: NEVER lean back in rolling chair |
| 20:55.03 | TimRiker | Chestal: explicit option would be fine with me. it get's messy for more things though. I'd also be happy with public on -timemanual. |
| 20:55.16 | doughecka | Note to self: unstable people have unstable minds |
| 20:55.37 | [STC]_creeperz | Can someone email me some asperins? Maybe I can print some out... |
| 20:55.47 | Chestal | I think I'd rather go for the latter option then; not a very clean solution, but I feel that we might redo the admin commands anyway |
| 20:56.07 | TimRiker | agreed. |
| 20:56.09 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea, make them simpilar! |
| 20:56.13 | [STC]_creeperz | heh |
| 20:56.15 | TimRiker | you going to do it then? |
| 20:56.38 | [STC]_creeperz | ...ummm, ummm, GO CHESTAL!!! |
| 20:56.42 | Chestal | yes, probably later as I have to go now, let#s say in 2 hours |
| 20:57.01 | PatlaCleaning | creeper he has you on ignore |
| 20:57.21 | [STC]_creeperz | Tim? |
| 20:57.24 | Chestal | I still think that toggling flags in 3D is not good; should make a poll on this one, as I got the impression that others don't liek it either |
| 20:57.38 | Chestal | did we change the behaviour to make team flags visible on radar at all times? |
| 20:58.05 | [STC]_creeperz | Why can't you grab flags in the air? |
| 20:58.20 | PatlaCleaning | I don't like the hiding of anything in the 3d world |
| 20:58.33 | PatlaCleaning | creeper: cus that's the way it works |
| 20:58.38 | [STC]_creeperz | ...Even tanks *shivers* |
| 20:59.02 | [STC]_creeperz | Thats one of the ideas of the game? |
| 21:00.29 | TimRiker | Chestal: no, the "team always on" still needs to be done iirc |
| 21:00.58 | Chestal | Tim: ok, you can think about the toggle in 3D until I'm back, then I'll do the small changes and I feel ready for release |
| 21:01.07 | Chestal | maybe MAC will pop in too, cu in 2 hours |
| 21:01.20 | TimRiker | k. I'm off for a bit too. |
| 21:01.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok, Where yu goin'? |
| 21:02.17 | PatlaCleaning | see ya tim |
| 21:02.34 | [STC]_creeperz | I have |
| 21:04.09 | [STC]_creeperz | brb |
| 21:05.10 | [STC]_creeperz | back |
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| 21:27.10 | doughecka | 'lo Secret_Hamster |
| 21:28.11 | Secret_Hamster | lo |
| 21:28.30 | Patlabor221 | man it's funny when someone has an IM name that is 1 letter difrent from yours |
| 21:28.33 | doughecka | hows the hamster feed? |
| 21:28.39 | doughecka | mine? |
| 21:28.42 | Patlabor221 | and that letter is an I instead of an L |
| 21:28.45 | Patlabor221 | no mine |
| 21:28.49 | doughecka | ah |
| 21:28.49 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:29.10 | Patlabor221 | they put a capital I instead of my lowercase L |
| 21:29.17 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:29.58 | doughecka | is that a needsfoodbadly name? |
| 21:30.42 | Patlabor221 | the one and olny |
| 21:30.48 | doughecka | ah |
| 21:31.20 | Patlabor221 | and my IM name is on all the boards and stuff I admin so I get IMs from people all the time |
| 21:31.30 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:31.32 | Patlabor221 | with this person I was trying to figure out who it was |
| 21:41.15 | [TeA|TrEE] | hello |
| 21:41.44 | [TeA|TrEE] | and good night all |
| 21:42.58 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E96676.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:50.12 | Cell | Patlabor221: you never set the Model matrix to anything other than E, right? |
| 21:51.11 | Patlabor221 | e? |
| 21:51.32 | Patlabor221 | I call gltranslate and glrotate, and that sets the modelview matrix |
| 21:51.37 | Patlabor221 | do that all over the place |
| 22:10.50 | Cell | ok |
| 22:10.56 | Cell | bad |
| 22:13.12 | Cell | a pitty , but you are not using vectors and points |
| 22:13.21 | Patlabor221 | for what? |
| 22:13.29 | Cell | for calculus |
| 22:13.54 | Patlabor221 | I have my 3r3dPoint type |
| 22:13.57 | Patlabor221 | it works |
| 22:14.01 | Cell | for example to calc the 8 frustum points |
| 22:14.09 | Cell | ah, k |
| 22:14.23 | Patlabor221 | I don't do any frustm culls |
| 22:14.32 | Cell | but i need that |
| 22:14.36 | Patlabor221 | and there is a frustum class |
| 22:14.38 | Patlabor221 | in LGE now |
| 22:14.47 | Patlabor221 | it does all the culling |
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| 22:15.01 | Patlabor221 | yanks the frustum right from the view matrix |
| 22:15.06 | Patlabor221 | no calulus needed |
| 22:15.38 | Cell | yes hats how i do it, but needs some calcs nevertheless to get the points |
| 22:16.31 | Patlabor221 | tr3dVertex has dot and cross prod |
| 22:16.44 | Patlabor221 | well there are functions that take them |
| 22:17.17 | Cell | can i use : float u[3]{1,0,0}; is that correct in C++ |
| 22:17.29 | Patlabor221 | that's strait C so sure |
| 22:17.34 | Cell | k |
| 22:20.33 | Cell | Field of view get from where? |
| 22:21.11 | Cell | ah pocket engine |
| 22:21.33 | Cell | is that in degs or rad? |
| 22:21.39 | Patlabor221 | deg |
| 22:21.43 | Cell | kewl |
| 22:21.52 | Patlabor221 | get it from the matrix |
| 22:22.01 | Cell | projection? |
| 22:22.40 | Cell | its not explicite in the matrix |
| 22:23.10 | captain_proton | umm |
| 22:23.14 | Patlabor221 | yes it is |
| 22:23.19 | captain_proton | shouldn't it be float u[3] = {1,0,0}; |
| 22:23.19 | captain_proton | ? |
| 22:23.28 | Patlabor221 | you have the side of the frustum |
| 22:23.44 | Patlabor221 | well if he wants it to compile yeah |
| 22:23.53 | Cell | ups its private |
| 22:24.17 | Patlabor221 | pocket engine is ohhhhlld |
| 22:24.35 | Cell | k make a get for it |
| 22:25.08 | Patlabor221 | now why arn't you working on your own "editor"? |
| 22:27.58 | Cell | cause i want to make a little contribution to bzflag community |
| 22:28.03 | Cell | lol |
| 22:28.10 | Cell | really |
| 22:28.31 | Cell | there is no other reson than fun |
| 22:28.41 | Patlabor221 | I'm not gonna post it |
| 22:29.41 | Cell | oh musnt |
| 22:30.02 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 22:30.11 | Cell | you must not post it |
| 22:30.25 | Patlabor221 | then how is it a contigution? |
| 22:30.30 | Patlabor221 | contribution? |
| 22:30.41 | Cell | oh, if i like it i post it myself |
| 22:31.05 | Patlabor221 | then you must post it with source |
| 22:31.11 | Cell | coz |
| 22:31.16 | Patlabor221 | you didn |
| 22:31.19 | Patlabor221 | 't for your cheat |
| 22:31.33 | Patlabor221 | and I don't think anyone would trust code your wrote anyway |
| 22:31.40 | Patlabor221 | with all your talk of torgans |
| 22:32.24 | Cell | oh, i hope some will |
| 22:33.33 | Patlabor221 | like all those people that you hope will buy your pig screwing game? |
| 22:33.59 | Cell | oh, come on Patlabor221 do you not want to stop making me bad |
| 22:34.21 | Cell | i dont make your ideas bad too |
| 22:34.27 | Patlabor221 | it makes my soul happy |
| 22:34.51 | Patlabor221 | no you just make everyone else anoyed and pissed at you |
| 22:35.06 | Patlabor221 | and you say it's what you have to do to make you happy |
| 22:35.10 | Patlabor221 | so why can't I do this? |
| 22:35.46 | Patlabor221 | hell this is better then what you do, since I only anoy you, not everyone else in the world |
| 22:36.04 | Cell | oh, you can, if you want |
| 22:36.27 | Patlabor221 | and I don't trust greefers |
| 22:36.45 | Cell | k |
| 22:37.20 | Patlabor221 | you have never proven yourslef to be nothing more then an asshole, and you were given many chances |
| 22:37.36 | Patlabor221 | but that's just my personal opinion |
| 22:37.54 | Patlabor221 | it's gotta say something when 90% of the channel has you on ignore |
| 22:38.34 | Cell | missing having kids Patlabor221? |
| 22:39.03 | Patlabor221 | no I have a large number of children to deal with |
| 22:39.13 | Patlabor221 | and a very cute neice |
| 22:39.38 | Cell | strange that you are talking to bzdoug liek if you have to care, just my opinion |
| 22:39.57 | Patlabor221 | doug has potental |
| 22:40.04 | Patlabor221 | he just gets very excited |
| 22:40.11 | Patlabor221 | he could be better then he is |
| 22:40.18 | Patlabor221 | I just hate to see people give up |
| 22:40.37 | Cell | oh, what do you mean he has potential? |
| 22:40.42 | Patlabor221 | and he's just allways taking the lazy way out |
| 22:40.46 | Cell | every kid has that |
| 22:41.10 | Patlabor221 | some are have more potental in certan areas then others |
| 22:41.31 | Patlabor221 | and doug is controlable |
| 22:41.46 | Patlabor221 | he just needs to learn |
| 22:42.06 | Cell | ah |
| 22:42.11 | Patlabor221 | for him, I think homeschooling is not giving him all the socal interaction skills he needs |
| 22:42.49 | Cell | homeschooling? |
| 22:42.52 | Patlabor221 | tho you just seem to be an assclown |
| 22:47.37 | doughecka | quack |
| 22:48.05 | doughecka | Patlabor221: does work #2 sell optical mice? |
| 22:50.01 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:50.16 | doughecka | for like 5 bucks? |
| 22:50.20 | Patlabor221 | I think we have some under 10 |
| 22:50.25 | doughecka | ah |
| 22:50.26 | doughecka | k |
| 22:50.47 | Patlabor221 | don't know exactly |
| 23:06.33 | Patlabor221 | want me to find out for you? |
| 23:06.43 | doughecka | nah |
| 23:08.39 | Patlabor221 | I do know we have some cheap ass ones |
| 23:08.50 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:10.01 | Patlabor221 | I'm going in there tomrow |
| 23:10.04 | Patlabor221 | I can check for you |
| 23:10.15 | Cell | whats the target dist of pocket engine camera, got some trouble to figure it out |
| 23:10.32 | Patlabor221 | you set it |
| 23:11.22 | Cell | m_fPullBack ? |
| 23:11.42 | Patlabor221 | what do you want? the clip plane? |
| 23:12.12 | Cell | no tha distance from the camera org to the point it is rotating about(target dist) |
| 23:12.34 | Patlabor221 | didn't know that was called a target dist |
| 23:12.39 | Cell | it is |
| 23:12.39 | Patlabor221 | it's the pullback |
| 23:12.43 | Cell | ok |
| 23:13.06 | Patlabor221 | well considering I made it up, I don't see how it can be called that |
| 23:13.45 | Cell | if you want to focus an object you set the point of rotation for the cam to be the objects center, so its the cams target |
| 23:14.02 | Cell | now you can rotate about it |
| 23:14.19 | Patlabor221 | you don't use much GL do you, since there isn't a "CAMERA" |
| 23:14.52 | Cell | yes but there a re the data that describes a cam, you use that too |
| 23:15.10 | Cell | you dont have to make a camera object explicitly |
| 23:15.13 | Patlabor221 | I fake it with my own transforms |
| 23:15.19 | Cell | right |
| 23:21.06 | Cell | ok i have the code for the grid converted to c++, lets see if it compiles |
| 23:22.34 | Cell | took awhile |
| 23:31.12 | Cell | can i do that: float O[3] = {mv[12],mv[13],mv[14]}; or is that possible only with literals |
| 23:31.26 | Patlabor221 | just literals |
| 23:31.32 | Cell | ah |
| 23:31.33 | Patlabor221 | it hapens at compile time |
| 23:41.04 | Cell | where the hell is the error, that c++ compiler is playing tricks on me |
| 23:43.15 | Cell | e:\BZEdit_WIN\BZEdit32_Zero\BZEdit32View.cpp(153): warning C4091: '' : ignored on left of 'float' when no variable is declared |
| 23:43.26 | Cell | what the hell does that mean |
| 23:48.12 | Patlabor221 | what is the line? |
| 23:48.35 | Patlabor221 | you have the word float with out a cast or a decrelation |
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| 23:50.10 | Cell | can i write flaot a = (float)1.0 |
| 23:50.27 | Cell | ; ? |
| 23:50.59 | Chestal | you can, but youd rather want to write float a = 1.0f; |
| 23:51.00 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 23:51.34 | Cell | i have to cast _FarClip |
| 23:52.05 | Patlabor221 | a cast would not give you that error |
| 23:52.06 | Cell | which i s preprocessor thingy |
| 23:52.12 | Cell | ok |
| 23:52.46 | Patlabor221 | what did ou put on linen 153? |
| 23:53.08 | Cell | float near; |
| 23:53.29 | Patlabor221 | is near defined as anything else? |
| 23:53.33 | Chestal | '_FarClip' looks evil, where does that come from? |
| 23:53.42 | Patlabor221 | old code I made |
| 23:53.46 | Cell | from pocket engine .h |
| 23:53.50 | Patlabor221 | he's not in bz |
| 23:54.37 | Patlabor221 | it's all difrent in LGE now |
| 23:54.48 | Cell | i made a float CPocketEngine::GetFar( void )(return (float) _FarClip;) |
| 23:55.39 | Cell | i try ot repalce _FarClip by 10000f |
| 23:56.02 | Patlabor221 | 10000.0f |
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| 23:58.11 | doughecka | I want this: http://www.hovercraft.com/info/18spw.html |
| 23:58.51 | stibnite | hashmark is running v1_7 cvs; no problems for almost 40 minutes, which is a record. :D |
| 23:58.57 | Patlabor221 | so get the plans |
| 23:59.10 | Patlabor221 | cvs is good :) |
| 23:59.21 | Cell | changed near to another ident and the error is gone :) |
| 23:59.26 | doughecka | Patlabor221: hah |
