| 00:00.22 | *** join/#bzflag paul ([m179acuzZ@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 00:00.23 | Patlabor221 | hmmm, I think I had a power issue, but now it says many permsions in /var are not right. |
| 00:00.43 | BZFrank | get a tea and fix it tomorrow |
| 00:01.37 | Patlabor221 | I'll just keep workin on the BZFS admin changes. |
| 00:01.42 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 00:02.29 | Patlabor221 | must thing about it tho, probably have to redo a chunck of it |
| 00:03.36 | Patlabor221 | wow it's 4:00 allready |
| 00:04.26 | BZFrank | 1:00 am here |
| 00:04.59 | Patlabor221 | well you are over there in that thar europe |
| 00:05.51 | BZFrank | yep, in that old europe ;) |
| 00:06.26 | paul | naughtily making trouble in NATO... |
| 00:06.56 | Jormungandr | someone needs to :) |
| 00:07.05 | BZFrank | at least we do not want to kill a few million people lightly |
| 00:08.38 | paul | there's a hostile dictator on the loose and he's got weapons of mass destruction, something has to be done. |
| 00:09.03 | Patlabor221 | and I think the only people to kill millions lightly was WW2 germany. |
| 00:09.18 | paul | oh, and there's saddam too... |
| 00:09.21 | BZFrank | there is much oil to be fetched and power to be secured something has to be done |
| 00:09.45 | BZFrank | I don'T liek saddam either but this campain is ridicilous |
| 00:10.02 | Jormungandr | lots of muscle flexing. |
| 00:10.09 | paul | BZFrank: come on, any action against iraq will be borne only out of the purest motives - world peace. |
| 00:10.17 | paul | "fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity" |
| 00:10.25 | paul | (dont remember who said that) |
| 00:10.29 | BZFrank | yeah right ;) |
| 00:11.09 | paul | BZFrank: but the americans have pledged that if they take action they will look after iraq for at least 2 years afterward. |
| 00:11.23 | Jormungandr | I'm a pacifist by oath, which is sometimes hard to keep. |
| 00:11.42 | paul | (iraq is going to trade an iraqi military dictator for a US military dictator^Wadministrator) |
| 00:11.46 | BZFrank | pat: sure, so what - my mothers family was bombed to pieces in Dresden 1945 and my father was kept for 10 years in siberias prison camps - we had enough war for at least 1000 years |
| 00:11.59 | paul | BZFrank: gulag? eek. |
| 00:12.01 | Patlabor221 | yes this is true, war does suck |
| 00:12.09 | paul | Patlabor221: war sucks big time. |
| 00:12.20 | paul | Patlabor221: my grandparents had an easy time of it. they were in NL. |
| 00:12.34 | Jormungandr | bzflag is good for my warmongering streak. :) |
| 00:12.41 | paul | Patlabor221: but still they spent many years eating potato skins and nettle soup. |
| 00:12.43 | Patlabor221 | I still dont' see why people have to get there panty's in a wad cus they thing they have some religious reason to go kill other people they dont like for no reason |
| 00:13.12 | paul | religion is evil. |
| 00:13.13 | BZFrank | I never fighered that out for myself too |
| 00:13.38 | Patlabor221 | I don't think religion is, just how people take it. |
| 00:13.50 | Jormungandr | radical fundamentalists |
| 00:13.52 | Patlabor221 | humans are driven to zealotry very easy |
| 00:13.52 | Jormungandr | badbadbad |
| 00:14.05 | BZFrank | maybe its a time factor, 400 years before protestants fought against catholics over all europe, now it is only in ireland |
| 00:14.16 | Patlabor221 | we are all teh freakin same we just live in difrent places. |
| 00:14.31 | Patlabor221 | cus we all can't fit in hawaii |
| 00:14.37 | BZFrank | true, true |
| 00:14.39 | BZFrank | :) |
| 00:14.45 | paul | religion is not a seperate entity, the ideals that crystalise from one person into a religion are invariably used to justify evil when the religion has had institutions formed around it. |
| 00:14.51 | BZFrank | well, martinique is not bad either |
| 00:15.22 | paul | BZFrank: you forget that many of the people who fought for irish independence were protestant. |
| 00:15.54 | BZFrank | yep |
| 00:16.12 | paul | irish independence was originally a protestant middle-class cause. (the catholic peasants were too occupied with the more mundane things like food) |
| 00:16.55 | paul | Patlabor221: be good if we /could/ all fit in hawaii though. :) (i could do with some nice weather :) ) |
| 00:17.48 | BZFrank | instinct, hard wired so to say |
| 00:17.52 | Jormungandr | fear is propagated through ignorance. |
| 00:18.10 | Patlabor221 | and why do the groups need something to hate? |
| 00:18.30 | Jormungandr | you hate what you fear, you fear what you don't understand |
| 00:18.30 | BZFrank | that joins together |
| 00:18.34 | paul | evolution even. back in the days resources were scarce - giving meant not having. |
| 00:18.55 | Patlabor221 | we all just need Yoda to tell us it's all coo. |
| 00:19.01 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 00:19.27 | Jormungandr | this is my realm of knowledge, which I try to avoid on IRC. :) |
| 00:19.31 | Patlabor221 | or aliens, that would work, then we could all hate them or something. |
| 00:19.42 | Jormungandr | religion and politics *duck* |
| 00:20.21 | Jormungandr | ~bzflist |
| 00:20.27 | BZFrank | yep, let them be bad green slimy woman raping and pizza eating bugs then the world would become one |
| 00:20.45 | Jormungandr | sometimes |
| 00:21.05 | Jormungandr | religion should be an expression of spirituality, not a foundation for it. |
| 00:21.28 | Jormungandr | we can thank rome for that. |
| 00:21.45 | Jormungandr | at least in the west. |
| 00:22.10 | Patlabor221 | ohh poor asgard, it's all screwed up now |
| 00:22.26 | Patlabor221 | methinks I jacked my permisions for /var and all sub dirs |
| 00:22.34 | Jormungandr | how'd you do that? |
| 00:22.46 | Patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 00:22.50 | Jormungandr | what OS? |
| 00:22.51 | Patlabor221 | it was off, I turned it on |
| 00:22.59 | Patlabor221 | no nothing starts |
| 00:23.00 | BZFrank | cd /; chmod -R +rwx * ;) |
| 00:23.01 | Patlabor221 | RH8 |
| 00:23.10 | Patlabor221 | what does that do? |
| 00:23.13 | Jormungandr | nothing starts? what are the errors? |
| 00:23.29 | paul | Patlabor221: dont do that :) |
| 00:23.39 | Patlabor221 | sshd tells me that permisions in a var dir are bad |
| 00:23.58 | Patlabor221 | gdm says /var/gdm should have 0750 but dosn't |
| 00:24.21 | paul | Patlabor221: get the filesystem package and upgrade it. |
| 00:24.23 | Patlabor221 | FTP is refusing connections |
| 00:24.25 | paul | should reset perms. |
| 00:24.29 | paul | (most perms) |
| 00:24.30 | Jormungandr | ack |
| 00:24.41 | Jormungandr | there is a linux rescue disk out there somewheere |
| 00:25.08 | Patlabor221 | I think the last thing I did was set /var/www/html to let everyone access it |
| 00:25.21 | Patlabor221 | no I don't have any type of boot disk |
| 00:25.30 | Patlabor221 | probably could make one tho |
| 00:25.31 | paul | Patlabor221: rpm -U --force ..../filesystem....rpm |
| 00:25.50 | Patlabor221 | sad thing is I don't know what filesystem I'm on :) |
| 00:25.58 | paul | no, the filesystem /rpm/ |
| 00:26.05 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:26.24 | paul | look on your RH CD for a filesystem-2.1.6-2.i386.rpm |
| 00:26.30 | paul | (your number may be different) |
| 00:26.39 | paul | thats an rpm package that lays out the basic filesystem. |
| 00:27.21 | Patlabor221 | ok, I can get that from the net I think |
| 00:27.41 | paul | yes |
| 00:28.09 | Patlabor221 | ugg GDM keeps trying to start tho |
| 00:31.36 | Patlabor221 | filesystem-2.1.6-5.noarch.rpm ? |
| 00:31.40 | Patlabor221 | that sound good? |
| 00:32.06 | Patlabor221 | it's the only file system one on disk 1 |
| 00:35.44 | Patlabor221 | no that didn't do it |
| 00:35.53 | Patlabor221 | sshd says it's has a bad owner |
| 00:35.58 | Patlabor221 | for /var something |
| 00:37.01 | paul | yes |
| 00:38.30 | Patlabor221 | did it |
| 00:38.33 | Patlabor221 | didn't change anything |
| 00:40.13 | Jormungandr | you borked it! |
| 00:40.38 | Patlabor221 | so it seems |
| 00:40.47 | Patlabor221 | I can log in to a console |
| 00:40.57 | Patlabor221 | what should the owner of /var be? |
| 00:41.13 | Patlabor221 | can I just chown it? |
| 00:41.25 | Jormungandr | root.root |
| 00:41.34 | Jormungandr | what is it now? |
| 00:41.40 | Patlabor221 | how do I tell? |
| 00:41.45 | paul | Patlabor221: hmm.... hang on, i'm writing a wee script to pull out all the perms of files. |
| 00:41.47 | Jormungandr | ls -ald /var |
| 00:42.26 | Patlabor221 | drwxr-xr-x 19 root root |
| 00:42.45 | Jormungandr | that's correct |
| 00:43.48 | Patlabor221 | it was complaining about /var/empty/sshd |
| 00:44.15 | Jormungandr | ls -ald /var/empty |
| 00:44.19 | Patlabor221 | it's set to drwxrwxrwx 2 root root |
| 00:44.30 | Patlabor221 | that's for the sshd dir |
| 00:44.37 | Jormungandr | d--x--x--x 2 root root 4096 Aug 13 2002 /var/empty/sshd/ |
| 00:44.41 | Jormungandr | that's what's wrong |
| 00:44.46 | Patlabor221 | how do I change it? |
| 00:45.03 | Jormungandr | chmod 111 /var/empty/sshd |
| 00:45.24 | Jormungandr | then ls it again to make sure |
| 00:45.35 | Patlabor221 | yes looks like yours now |
| 00:45.43 | Jormungandr | try now |
| 00:45.50 | Patlabor221 | also complains about /var/gdm |
| 00:45.52 | Patlabor221 | let me get that one |
| 00:46.10 | Patlabor221 | gmd is the same way as sshd was |
| 00:46.16 | Patlabor221 | shoudl it be 111? |
| 00:46.29 | Jormungandr | let me look |
| 00:46.41 | Jormungandr | drwxr-x--- 2 gdm gdm 4096 Jan 29 00:58 /var/gdm/ |
| 00:46.54 | Patlabor221 | what number is that? |
| 00:46.58 | Patlabor221 | 750? |
| 00:47.06 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 00:47.22 | Jormungandr | I htink |
| 00:47.25 | Jormungandr | try and see. |
| 00:47.28 | Patlabor221 | did |
| 00:47.37 | Patlabor221 | the gdm error says that what it should have been |
| 00:47.43 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh gdm is starting now |
| 00:47.47 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 00:47.53 | Patlabor221 | I'm betting other var folders are jacked tho |
| 00:48.28 | Patlabor221 | gonna see if I can get sshd to start |
| 00:49.40 | Patlabor221 | there we go ssh is working again. |
| 00:51.40 | Jormungandr | well, you can prolly log in here and compare iffen ya want. |
| 00:53.54 | BZFrank | why not backup anything valuable and reinstall? may be faster |
| 00:54.17 | Patlabor221 | seems to be working now |
| 00:54.22 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 00:54.46 | BZFrank | ok, may be not then... ;) cheers! |
| 00:54.57 | Patlabor221 | gonna reebot and check the boot list and make sure it all starts up ok |
| 00:55.09 | Jormungandr | I accidentally chowned dirs wrong once. |
| 00:55.12 | Jormungandr | was a nightmare |
| 00:55.17 | Jormungandr | ended up screwing up /var |
| 00:55.41 | Jormungandr | but I had so much stuff installed and configured, it'd take days to reconfigure, anyway, so I manually fixed. |
| 00:55.58 | Jormungandr | 2 weeks later, I had a hard drive crash, and had to reinstall anyway. |
| 00:56.27 | Patlabor221 | well I don't know what I'm doin, and I'm suprised it's working as well as it is, so I'm leavin it. |
| 00:56.44 | Jormungandr | if anything breaks, I can ls my system for ya. |
| 00:56.47 | BZFrank | one of my collegues (back in the days when I was a company drone) once erase the whole /private directory on a next. He said 'he has nothing private' on this machine. Only that NeXTSTEP stomed all /usr /bin and /sbin stuff there smylinked... |
| 00:56.54 | Patlabor221 | allready have to reinstall the windows server again, but that's cus I screwed up the last tim |
| 00:57.03 | Jormungandr | ack! |
| 00:57.17 | Jormungandr | bzfrank, I've seen things like that. |
| 00:59.57 | Patlabor221 | here frank are some immages of the GM missile |
| 00:59.58 | Patlabor221 | http://bzbb.homelinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=333 |
| 01:00.51 | BZFrank | loading... |
| 01:00.58 | BZFrank | takes ages... ;) |
| 01:01.14 | Patlabor221 | it's wierd for a web server asgard is slower then ragnarok, by a lot. |
| 01:01.25 | BZFrank | lol! |
| 01:01.34 | Patlabor221 | tho asgard is only a 450, where ragnarok is a 600 |
| 01:02.04 | Patlabor221 | and I have a model pack that will replace that with a fish. |
| 01:02.12 | BZFrank | nice one! |
| 01:02.20 | Patlabor221 | hence fish missile |
| 01:02.45 | BZFrank | pirania, bites the tanks a*** :) |
| 01:02.45 | Patlabor221 | if the model has anims it would play it. Had running storm trooper missiles at one point. |
| 01:03.43 | Patlabor221 | oooo could turn it into a giant 3d packmao doing the chomping thing |
| 01:03.49 | paul | quick reboot |
| 01:04.04 | Patlabor221 | it looks realy cool as the missile tracks in 3d |
| 01:04.11 | Patlabor221 | when you get a lock on. |
| 01:04.15 | paul | Patlabor221: i'm running a script that will hopefully produce: filename mode user group |
| 01:04.18 | paul | of my system, |
| 01:04.28 | paul | which might be of use to you. |
| 01:04.29 | Patlabor221 | ahhh collio, |
| 01:04.33 | Patlabor221 | it may |
| 01:04.35 | paul | will take a while though. |
| 01:04.47 | Patlabor221 | well no rush it's working now it seems |
| 01:04.54 | Patlabor221 | at least ssh and web |
| 01:04.56 | paul | k |
| 01:04.57 | Patlabor221 | and gdm |
| 01:05.09 | Patlabor221 | tho looks like FTP is not running. |
| 01:07.56 | Patlabor221 | awww mach dosn't have the missile patch as a built binary |
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| 01:11.13 | Patlabor221 | well time to go to YetAnotherOffice. |
| 01:11.17 | Patlabor221 | in the rain |
| 01:11.41 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 01:11.44 | BZFrank | cu |
| 01:18.30 | BZFrank | later |
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| 01:23.52 | Noodleman | noodleroni.com is up again |
| 01:23.54 | Noodleman | w00t |
| 01:24.12 | Noodleman | ok, i'm going home |
| 01:24.12 | Jormungandr | yay! |
| 01:24.14 | Noodleman | bbl |
| 01:24.15 | Jormungandr | later |
| 01:24.17 | Noodleman | yeah! |
| 01:32.26 | Jormungandr | ~secretplace |
| 01:32.42 | Jormungandr | ~bzflist |
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| 01:51.16 | Jormungandr | I will be so happy to be off of this shift. |
| 01:54.44 | Jormungandr | I even get off a little earlier tonight, because I'm close to going over 40 hours. |
| 01:55.47 | Jormungandr | I remember the days of salary and REAL money for my skills. :) |
| 01:56.15 | Jormungandr | I need to get me resume out again, probably. |
| 01:56.28 | Jormungandr | I was hoping to ride it out until this colo business took root. |
| 01:57.11 | Jormungandr | ~secretplace |
| 01:57.27 | Jormungandr | heh everyone is blue |
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| 01:57.29 | doughecka | greetings |
| 01:57.34 | Jormungandr | hi doug |
| 01:58.40 | Jormungandr | ~bzflist |
| 02:00.47 | Patlabor221 | everyone outa the pool |
| 02:03.25 | Jormungandr | no one was in the pool anyway :) |
| 02:13.13 | Jormungandr | I wish I knew how people were bypassing bad word list. |
| 02:13.43 | doughecka | heh |
| 02:13.45 | Jormungandr | well, that would explain this one. |
| 02:13.51 | doughecka | maybe its an old version |
| 02:13.54 | Jormungandr | I had old path before I did sandbox setups. |
| 02:15.16 | Jormungandr | there.. restarted. |
| 02:16.19 | Jormungandr | ~dragon |
| 02:24.57 | Patlabor221 | what you don't like arsebandit? |
| 02:25.17 | Jormungandr | huh? |
| 02:25.31 | Patlabor221 | everytime I hear about bad world filters |
| 02:25.43 | Patlabor221 | I think about a mailserver we had |
| 02:25.46 | Jormungandr | I didn't put arsebandit in my filter :) |
| 02:25.56 | Patlabor221 | it came with a list that had the "Worst" words |
| 02:25.57 | Jormungandr | although I should ;) |
| 02:26.07 | Patlabor221 | and #1 was arsebandit |
| 02:26.10 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 02:26.25 | Patlabor221 | and it's not that it was in alphabetical order ether |
| 02:28.07 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:28.12 | Jormungandr | I need to make some worlds. |
| 02:28.16 | Jormungandr | maps |
| 02:28.34 | Patlabor221 | well you coudl try caps editor |
| 02:28.42 | Patlabor221 | mine won't work on linux |
| 02:28.50 | Jormungandr | what sort of editor is it? |
| 02:28.57 | Jormungandr | the linux one? |
| 02:28.58 | Patlabor221 | full graphical one |
| 02:29.04 | Patlabor221 | they are both very simiar |
| 02:29.05 | Jormungandr | is linux? |
| 02:29.11 | Patlabor221 | me and cap worked together on them |
| 02:29.15 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 02:29.28 | Patlabor221 | shows the map in all it's glory |
| 02:29.29 | Jormungandr | the default bzedit is sorry right now. |
| 02:29.33 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:29.42 | Patlabor221 | ohh well that is the linux one |
| 02:29.47 | Jormungandr | it has some promise, but it is very buggy. |
| 02:29.52 | Patlabor221 | tho I think cvs dosn't have the current code |
| 02:29.58 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 02:30.02 | Patlabor221 | I put a link to his current stuff on my site |
| 02:30.08 | Jormungandr | I'll have to play again. |
| 02:30.10 | Patlabor221 | ~bzeditW32 |
| 02:30.11 | | bzeditw32 is probably http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit |
| 02:30.24 | Jormungandr | yeah... I got one about a month ago from there. |
| 02:30.34 | Jormungandr | anything new in the last month? |
| 02:30.34 | Patlabor221 | !no bzeditw32 is http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/ |
| 02:30.40 | Patlabor221 | ~no bzeditw32 is http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/ |
| 02:30.40 | | okay, Patlabor221 |
| 02:30.42 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 02:30.51 | Patlabor221 | I don't think he's worked on his |
| 02:31.03 | Jormungandr | what platform is yours for? |
| 02:31.04 | Patlabor221 | I like to think that mine is usefull and dosn't have THAT many bugs in it |
| 02:31.06 | Patlabor221 | win |
| 02:31.10 | Patlabor221 | and sadly win only |
| 02:31.18 | Patlabor221 | ~bzeditW32 |
| 02:31.19 | | [bzeditw32] http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/ |
| 02:31.22 | Jormungandr | I have xp/linux dual boot |
| 02:31.26 | Patlabor221 | ~thank you |
| 02:31.26 | | Patlabor221: sure thing |
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| 02:31.37 | Patlabor221 | it'll run fine on XP |
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| 02:32.14 | Jormungandr | cool. what is URL. |
| 02:32.16 | Jormungandr | ? |
| 02:32.20 | Jormungandr | for your's |
| 02:32.41 | Jormungandr | is that the artemis games one? |
| 02:32.46 | Patlabor221 | ~bzeditw32 |
| 02:32.47 | | bzeditw32 is, like, http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/ |
| 02:32.47 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 02:32.55 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:32.56 | Patlabor221 | that's me |
| 02:33.01 | Jormungandr | so your's is the default windows one? |
| 02:33.12 | Jormungandr | that's the one I thought I had :) |
| 02:33.16 | Patlabor221 | I don't know about "default" |
| 02:33.25 | Patlabor221 | it's the only one I know of. |
| 02:33.31 | Jormungandr | are bases still wacky? |
| 02:33.39 | Patlabor221 | yes, I need to fix that |
| 02:33.42 | Jormungandr | 0-3 instead of 1-4, etc. |
| 02:34.00 | Patlabor221 | they should be 1-4 |
| 02:34.06 | Patlabor221 | but I know there are some issues with them |
| 02:34.10 | Patlabor221 | I'll look tomrow |
| 02:34.13 | Jormungandr | yeah, they are 0-3 in the code |
| 02:34.22 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 02:34.25 | Patlabor221 | there was a problem with list deletion |
| 02:34.36 | Patlabor221 | and I did some changes to bases recently |
| 02:34.39 | Patlabor221 | what version do you have? |
| 02:34.46 | Jormungandr | not sure. it's at home. :) |
| 02:35.07 | Patlabor221 | I put a link to the latest on bzbb in one of the bzedit posts |
| 02:35.11 | Patlabor221 | that's the latest |
| 02:35.16 | Patlabor221 | I don't think it's on the site |
| 02:35.17 | Jormungandr | okie |
| 02:35.50 | Patlabor221 | the lin one should be simiar to mine in look and feel |
| 02:35.59 | Patlabor221 | you may want to try that too |
| 02:36.07 | Patlabor221 | if you can get it to build |
| 02:36.21 | Jormungandr | yeah... I think last time I looked for it, the site was offline, or I couldn't get a URL. |
| 02:37.44 | Jormungandr | you have URL for linux one? |
| 02:38.38 | Patlabor221 | looking |
| 02:38.42 | Jormungandr | k |
| 02:38.48 | Patlabor221 | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ |
| 02:38.59 | Patlabor221 | last win one is http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/edit/BZE_1.5.9f7_Installer.exe |
| 02:39.44 | Jormungandr | cool. |
| 02:44.14 | Patlabor221 | why do people like secretplace over dragon? |
| 02:49.04 | Jormungandr | more shots |
| 02:49.10 | Jormungandr | 10 vs 2 |
| 02:49.11 | Patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 02:49.15 | Jormungandr | I prefer dragon, personally. |
| 02:49.36 | Jormungandr | I am getting GtkGLArea missing error. |
| 02:50.02 | Patlabor221 | do you have that for gtk? |
| 02:50.36 | Jormungandr | i do now ;) |
| 02:50.47 | Jormungandr | found the package. |
| 02:50.52 | Patlabor221 | cool |
| 02:51.22 | Patlabor221 | that's one thing I think linux needs to work out better, being able to distro a bin. but you can't do that realy now since you don't know what libs the users have. |
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| 02:51.39 | Noodleman | d00dz! |
| 02:51.45 | Jormungandr | hi noodleman |
| 02:51.47 | Patlabor221 | NoodlZ! |
| 02:51.50 | Noodleman | hey |
| 02:51.52 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:51.53 | Jormungandr | unless you compile it static, pat. |
| 02:52.09 | Patlabor221 | yeah, then it's extra large |
| 02:52.27 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 02:52.53 | Patlabor221 | I see that it seems to be weak in the dynamic library loading, I know it's there, I just don't think it's as used as it could be |
| 02:53.23 | Jormungandr | too much diversifying in the linux distros, and non-backwards compatible libs. |
| 02:53.47 | Patlabor221 | yes, they shoudl make an API and stick with it :) |
| 02:53.50 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:54.00 | Patlabor221 | or make libs that can service multiple versions of the API |
| 02:54.02 | Patlabor221 | like GL doe |
| 02:54.04 | Patlabor221 | does |
| 02:54.25 | Patlabor221 | I can put as many versions of APIs in a single DLL if I want. |
| 02:55.43 | Jormungandr | my gtkgl is too old |
| 03:02.35 | paul | night Patlabor221 et al |
| 03:02.47 | Patlabor221 | see ya paul, thaks for you help earlyer |
| 03:04.21 | Patlabor221 | I did like the description of linux, if it was a car, you would have 3 stering wheels, 5 gaspeadals and they woudl all work difrently, but you could turn on the headlighs from the car sterio |
| 03:04.32 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 03:04.40 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thats a description of X, not linux |
| 03:04.47 | Patlabor221 | yes that's it |
| 03:05.10 | Patlabor221 | there was this great article that compared the 4 major OS s at the time to car dealers |
| 03:05.42 | Patlabor221 | MS made a single station wagon. it was ugly but it worked. Everyone liked it cus it had a service dept |
| 03:06.07 | Patlabor221 | and it was better then the compnays previouls offering of a motor to fit bikes |
| 03:06.15 | Patlabor221 | apple make futuristing concept cards |
| 03:06.18 | Patlabor221 | cars |
| 03:06.29 | Patlabor221 | but they had one start button and one lite that said "bad" |
| 03:06.36 | Patlabor221 | and cost more then the station wagon. |
| 03:07.00 | Patlabor221 | linux was a group of hippies living in tanks, making full blown sherman tanks. |
| 03:07.20 | Patlabor221 | but they didn't have a service deptartment and noone wanted hippies to fix there tanks over the net. |
| 03:07.42 | Patlabor221 | and BeOS was making full blown batmobiles |
| 03:08.09 | Patlabor221 | need to find that somewhere |
| 03:11.08 | Patlabor221 | cap can you view Mpeg4's? |
| 03:12.50 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: should be able to |
| 03:14.05 | Patlabor221 | ok then I shall send you the animatrix thing as a mpeg4 tomrow |
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| 03:17.40 | Patlabor221 | que passa Mac |
| 03:18.19 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 03:18.49 | MrApathyCream | how goes missiles |
| 03:19.17 | Patlabor221 | the patch has been tehre for days now |
| 03:24.59 | Patlabor221 | you coudl make a windows bin |
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| 04:07.54 | Jormungandr | grrr. |
| 04:08.14 | Jormungandr | power outage at colo, with 2 battery backups. |
| 04:08.22 | Jormungandr | AND 2 generators |
| 04:08.27 | Jormungandr | I don't get it. |
| 04:08.35 | Jormungandr | dragon.org is STILL down. |
| 04:08.47 | Jormungandr | I have to drive over and figure out why when I get off. |
| 04:09.00 | Noodleman | http://www.penguinstalon.com/stats.bzflag.org/ |
| 04:09.13 | Noodleman | the filler page that will be on s.b.o |
| 04:09.25 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 04:10.01 | Noodleman | what is dragon.org? |
| 04:10.08 | Jormungandr | my personal site. |
| 04:10.10 | Noodleman | ah id didn't work :-) |
| 04:10.17 | Jormungandr | fortunatly none of my customers are on it. |
| 04:10.23 | Noodleman | i though it would make ibot chime in |
| 04:10.26 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 04:10.28 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 04:10.38 | Jormungandr | it does have secondary dns on it, though. |
| 04:10.45 | Noodleman | smoeone shut ibot up :-) |
| 04:11.58 | Jormungandr | apache looking for a passphrase. I need to fix that. |
| 04:12.04 | Jormungandr | so it should be back up soon. |
| 04:13.31 | Jormungandr | good thing all the customers are on this box. |
| 04:18.45 | Jormungandr | bzfs server is up. dragon.org is back up, gotta restart the server. |
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| 05:20.53 | Jormungandr | noodle.. I think you have a cheater on yer server. :) |
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| 05:41.53 | trepan | anyone alive? |
| 05:44.16 | Patlabor221 | maybe |
| 05:44.31 | trepan | hehe |
| 05:44.55 | trepan | just finished a prog. for doing "grouped" maps, was wondering where to put it |
| 05:45.08 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 05:45.16 | Patlabor221 | what do you mean? |
| 05:45.35 | Jormungandr | rotating maps? |
| 05:45.44 | Jormungandr | or portaling between maps? |
| 05:45.44 | trepan | it's a little C parser, you can make groups of objects and then copy them around, rotate, size, etc... |
| 05:45.50 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 05:46.02 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 05:46.15 | Patlabor221 | could put it in CVS |
| 05:46.21 | Patlabor221 | coudl make a site |
| 05:46.30 | Patlabor221 | realy up to you |
| 05:46.38 | trepan | how about dropping it in as a patch? |
| 05:46.39 | Patlabor221 | not realy a patch |
| 05:46.47 | trepan | ... a patch for the misc/ dir |
| 05:46.56 | Patlabor221 | does it apply to BZFS, BZFlag, or BZEDit? |
| 05:47.06 | Patlabor221 | realy it's what ever you want |
| 05:47.13 | Patlabor221 | what Oss does it work on? |
| 05:47.36 | trepan | ANSI C, should work everywhere, I'll check Windows tomrrow |
| 05:47.46 | Patlabor221 | does it draw? |
| 05:48.02 | Patlabor221 | you said it was a C parser? |
| 05:48.04 | trepan | draw? don't think so, just makes map making a whole lot easier |
| 05:48.10 | trepan | no gfx |
| 05:48.30 | Patlabor221 | you sould put it in the BZedits |
| 05:49.02 | trepan | in CVS? no access |
| 05:49.13 | Patlabor221 | no I mean in the apps |
| 05:49.18 | Patlabor221 | there is a lin BZE |
| 05:49.21 | Patlabor221 | and win BZE |
| 05:49.51 | trepan | wasn't too impressed with the Lin BZE, Win isn't bad |
| 05:50.28 | captain_proton | thanks! |
| 05:50.46 | Patlabor221 | well cap you haven't worked on it in a while |
| 05:50.47 | Jormungandr | I'm trying to install the linux one :) |
| 05:50.54 | Jormungandr | have to install gtk+ 2 |
| 05:50.58 | Jormungandr | working n that now. |
| 05:51.00 | Jormungandr | on |
| 05:51.10 | trepan | a common source base would be a boon |
| 05:51.16 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: true enough |
| 05:51.30 | Patlabor221 | yes but then it would be least common diniminator interface :) |
| 05:51.36 | Patlabor221 | and win is MFC |
| 05:51.40 | Patlabor221 | tho we shared code a lot |
| 05:51.46 | captain_proton | yick |
| 05:51.57 | Patlabor221 | so some is very similar if not the same |
| 05:51.59 | trepan | hmmm, i still like to write 'em by hand |
| 05:52.20 | trepan | a little trig practice is good now and then |
| 05:52.26 | Patlabor221 | you must be linux person deep down to the heart then? :) |
| 05:53.00 | trepan | who, me? |
| 05:53.21 | Patlabor221 | yes, linux peoplke seem to hate leting the computer help them do stuff |
| 05:53.29 | Patlabor221 | the comptuer is just there to do stuff to. |
| 05:53.44 | Patlabor221 | bet cap would loive a punched card machine. |
| 05:53.45 | trepan | hey, a wrote this parser to help myself, i'm just a control/precision freak |
| 05:54.10 | trepan | s/a/I |
| 05:54.12 | Patlabor221 | you can still have exact controll in the editor |
| 05:54.20 | Patlabor221 | all I did was expose the field |
| 05:54.25 | Patlabor221 | and show you waht each change does |
| 05:54.42 | Patlabor221 | and I'm just kidding cap :) |
| 05:56.30 | Patlabor221 | still parsing is not as helpfull as well designed tools :) |
| 05:56.55 | trepan | did I mention that I'm a latex fan, and that you've just offended me? :) |
| 05:57.12 | Patlabor221 | latex... hmmm fetic |
| 05:57.57 | Patlabor221 | just seems that most lin people I talk to love printf instead of a well designed debuger |
| 05:58.45 | Patlabor221 | tho printf does work on EVERY OS |
| 05:58.52 | trepan | I used GDB today, I swear... printf's are good though |
| 05:59.11 | Patlabor221 | printfs are just one way, tehre are others |
| 05:59.32 | trepan | putchar? |
| 05:59.44 | Patlabor221 | breakpoint and var stacs |
| 05:59.56 | Patlabor221 | I hit F9 then F5 and bam I'm there |
| 06:00.00 | Patlabor221 | no log scrolling |
| 06:00.15 | trepan | backtracing is nice too |
| 06:00.29 | Patlabor221 | call stack, and set next statement :) |
| 06:00.59 | Patlabor221 | tho if I realy need a printf I can do a trace too |
| 06:01.27 | trepan | kay, think i'll just drop mt prog. into SF as patch, no other access... |
| 06:01.44 | trepan | ciao |
| 06:01.50 | Patlabor221 | you can ask Tim for dev access |
| 06:01.59 | Patlabor221 | CVS would give you history |
| 06:02.11 | trepan | I'll see if anyone finds my coding useful first... |
| 06:02.36 | trepan | gotta sleep, shuttin' down zzz |
| 06:02.39 | Patlabor221 | I realy shold hook up plugins so stuff like that could put put in the editor |
| 06:02.40 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 06:08.20 | Jormungandr | it's not finding gtkglarea |
| 06:08.21 | Jormungandr | poop |
| 06:08.33 | Jormungandr | I might have to install it from source. |
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| 06:13.30 | Cell | morning :) |
| 06:13.37 | Patlabor221 | see perferd dev platform man :) |
| 06:16.56 | Patlabor221 | evening :) |
| 06:18.45 | Cell | 6 hours sleep |
| 06:20.01 | Cell | Can i select text in ghost view? |
| 06:22.55 | Patlabor221 | I would guess not since it's called "VIEW" |
| 06:23.01 | Patlabor221 | what would you do with the selection? |
| 06:23.16 | Patlabor221 | but you could try it |
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| 07:01.01 | Jormungandr | linux bzedit is not a party to compile :( |
| 07:04.22 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 07:04.42 | Cell | oh im lookin forward to friday, then i will write and export script for bzflag worlds out of 3d studio :) |
| 07:04.58 | MrApathyCream | why friday? |
| 07:06.05 | Cell | cause i have lot of other work till friday |
| 07:06.29 | MrApathyCream | bah get your priorities straight |
| 07:06.39 | Cell | lol |
| 07:09.24 | Cell | gat to go to school , bye |
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| 13:29.37 | Noodleman | hey, anybody awake this early? |
| 13:29.43 | Noodleman | notearly in europe :-) |
| 13:31.56 | Chestal | hi noodle |
| 13:32.10 | Noodleman | hey |
| 13:32.26 | Noodleman | what's up over there in deutschland? |
| 13:32.29 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 13:33.01 | Chestal | ah, sun is shining, tea in my cup and I'm hungry |
| 13:33.10 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 13:33.31 | Noodleman | soulds just like me, except for the sun and the tea :-) |
| 13:33.36 | Noodleman | sounds* |
| 13:34.17 | Chestal | where are you? near Denver? |
| 13:34.29 | Noodleman | i'm in oregon |
| 13:34.41 | Noodleman | it's about 5:45 where i'm at |
| 13:35.08 | Chestal | ehm, 14:34 here, so I guess 5:34 for you? |
| 13:35.42 | Noodleman | yup |
| 13:35.53 | Noodleman | somthing like that :-) |
| 13:36.06 | Noodleman | who knos, my clock might be fast |
| 13:36.50 | Chestal | had to look at a map to see where Oregon is located |
| 13:37.02 | Noodleman | ah, sorry, west coast :-) |
| 13:38.04 | Chestal | what for are you up so early? |
| 13:38.19 | Noodleman | your guess is as good as mine, d00d :-P |
| 13:39.31 | Noodleman | http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030213.gif |
| 13:39.34 | Noodleman | lol |
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| 13:50.51 | doughecka | greetings |
| 13:55.09 | Noodleman | hey doug |
| 13:55.14 | Noodleman | suprised? |
| 13:55.15 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 14:00.38 | Noodleman | playing bzflag in a window is hard :-) |
| 14:01.49 | Noodleman | doughecka is dead |
| 14:02.04 | Noodleman | i can hear pat and cap saying "w00w00w00!!" |
| 14:02.09 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 14:36.51 | jraitala | ~ducati6 |
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| 14:43.25 | Noodleman | ~fishslap everybody |
| 14:43.26 | | ACTION slaps everybody up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 14:48.52 | Noodleman | ~lart doughecka |
| 14:50.23 | doughecka | ow |
| 14:50.43 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:10.07 | jraitala | hey |
| 15:10.45 | Noodleman | lo jraitala |
| 15:11.00 | doughecka | Thou bootless reeling-ripe malcontent! |
| 15:12.44 | doughecka | The most infectious pestilence upon thee! |
| 15:13.47 | Noodleman | ~lart doughecka |
| 15:13.54 | Noodleman | lol |
| 15:13.54 | doughecka | You are as a candle, the better burnt out. |
| 15:14.08 | doughecka | Thou wert best set thy lower part where thy nose stands. |
| 15:14.13 | doughecka | Taken from: All's Well That Ends Well |
| 15:14.23 | Noodleman | does anyone know any swear words in latin? |
| 15:14.27 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 15:14.31 | doughecka | hmm, nope |
| 15:14.44 | Noodleman | i don't think there is any :-P |
| 15:14.58 | jraitala | my studying holiday (what kind of holiday is a studying holiday?) began today and that should give me more time to play bzflag |
| 15:14.59 | doughecka | hah, latins must be clean then |
| 15:15.22 | Noodleman | cool :-) |
| 15:15.38 | doughecka | jraitala: strong the force is in you, bzflag must use it in. |
| 15:15.53 | Noodleman | doughecka: i'm sure the romans must have had some cuss words in there arsenal |
| 15:16.13 | Noodleman | they had everything else of vice :-) |
| 15:16.21 | doughecka | Noodleman: hmm, yup |
| 15:16.29 | doughecka | ROMAN DOGS! |
| 15:16.46 | Noodleman | barbarian infidel!! |
| 15:16.51 | doughecka | Thou romans art the rudeliest welcome to this world. |
| 15:17.18 | Noodleman | here's some dark ages insults: |
| 15:17.21 | doughecka | [Thou] sanguine coward, [thou] bed-presser, [thou] horseback-breaker, [thou] huge hill of flesh! |
| 15:17.26 | Noodleman | heretic! |
| 15:17.30 | Noodleman | infidel! |
| 15:17.31 | jraitala | perhaps I could even join a team. Playing on a public server without arranged team tactics surely misses some of bzflag's point |
| 15:17.36 | Noodleman | blasphemer! |
| 15:17.39 | doughecka | jraitala: heh |
| 15:17.41 | doughecka | Noodleman: lol |
| 15:18.17 | Noodleman | brb, gotta get some pie for breakfast hehe |
| 15:18.25 | doughecka | Mmmm |
| 15:18.29 | doughecka | pie |
| 15:18.36 | doughecka | I DONT WANT TO BE A PIE! |
| 15:19.06 | doughecka | Out of my sight! Thou dost infect my eyes. |
| 15:20.02 | Noodleman | lol |
| 15:24.05 | doughecka | my licence says I can, but only nasa is believed to have done it |
| 15:24.07 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:24.35 | Noodleman | do you have a radio license? |
| 15:24.39 | doughecka | cuz mostly its impossible to transmitt at 300 ghz cuz the air absorbs it all |
| 15:24.46 | doughecka | Noodleman: no... but I will! |
| 15:24.49 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:24.56 | Noodleman | ah, cool :-) |
| 15:25.06 | doughecka | friday is the exam |
| 15:25.10 | Noodleman | cool |
| 15:25.10 | doughecka | 35 questions |
| 15:25.17 | doughecka | 26 have to be right :P |
| 15:25.23 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:26.00 | Noodleman | i don't know that much about radio |
| 15:26.06 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:26.16 | doughecka | its a really nice one ;) |
| 15:26.22 | Noodleman | i do know what CB and FRS are :-) |
| 15:26.23 | doughecka | even has a modem inside it |
| 15:26.27 | Noodleman | cool |
| 15:26.47 | doughecka | Noodleman: hmm now i could really use FRS radios... ;) |
| 15:26.54 | Noodleman | and i know some CB slanguage ;-) |
| 15:27.05 | doughecka | 10-4 old buddy |
| 15:27.14 | Noodleman | are you hinting at something?? |
| 15:27.21 | Noodleman | 10-4 |
| 15:27.35 | doughecka | :P |
| 15:27.38 | doughecka | 73 |
| 15:27.38 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:27.48 | Noodleman | don't know what that is |
| 15:27.57 | doughecka | ham radio talk |
| 15:28.01 | Noodleman | ah |
| 15:28.10 | Noodleman | lol |
| 15:28.21 | Noodleman | you probably just swore |
| 15:28.23 | doughecka | aha |
| 15:28.26 | doughecka | 73 "Best Regards" (Source: "Morse Code: The Essential Language", 2nd Ed., ARRL Publishing) |
| 15:28.34 | Noodleman | ah |
| 15:28.37 | doughecka | dont say 88! |
| 15:28.47 | Noodleman | what's that mean? |
| 15:29.02 | doughecka | hugs and kisses :P |
| 15:29.14 | Noodleman | where are you finding these? |
| 15:29.21 | doughecka | http://www.qrz.com/i/hamspeak.html |
| 15:29.31 | doughecka | Ø |
| 15:30.55 | doughecka | got a YL? |
| 15:31.19 | Noodleman | no :-) |
| 15:31.29 | doughecka | not even a XYL? |
| 15:31.34 | Noodleman | no |
| 15:31.39 | doughecka | :P |
| 15:31.45 | doughecka | Yagi? |
| 15:32.22 | doughecka | Wouff Hong An instrument of sadistic torture for hams who do not follow generally accepted rules of courtesy on the air. It looks something akin to a Saguaro cactus with one arm missing (courtesy of AA7VP) Note: [the truth] The Wouff Hong sprang from the imagination of ARRL cofounder Hiram Percy Maxim, W1AW, as a means to combat poor operating. |
| 15:32.43 | Noodleman | lol |
| 15:34.00 | Noodleman | doug is an IQØ |
| 15:34.15 | doughecka | uh huh |
| 15:34.20 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:34.48 | doughecka | brb, have to go get the mail (a 5 min job) |
| 15:34.51 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:34.55 | Noodleman | ok |
| 15:35.02 | Noodleman | long driveway? |
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| 15:36.46 | Noodleman | take off your shoes and stick around a while, pat :-) |
| 15:36.53 | Noodleman | ;-) |
| 15:42.03 | Noodleman | doughecka: Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax |
| 15:45.15 | doughecka | yup |
| 15:45.23 | doughecka | lol |
| 15:45.33 | doughecka | Thou artless bat-fowling flap-dragon! |
| 15:45.42 | Noodleman | Thou art unfit for any place but hell. |
| 15:45.45 | doughecka | [Thou] appeareth nothing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours. |
| 15:46.10 | Noodleman | Thine horrid image doth unfix my hair |
| 15:46.19 | doughecka | Thou art so leaky that we must leave thee to thy sinking. |
| 15:46.43 | Noodleman | I never knew so young a body with so old a head. |
| 15:46.51 | doughecka | Thy head stands so tickle on thy shoulders, that a milkmaid, if she be in love, may sigh it off. |
| 15:47.07 | doughecka | hmm, now its looping |
| 15:47.18 | Noodleman | i'm gonna email this guy and get his list of insults :-) |
| 15:47.26 | doughecka | lol |
| 15:47.42 | doughecka | Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them. |
| 15:47.59 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:48.16 | doughecka | Fossil flowers come from the Petrified Florist. |
| 15:49.05 | doughecka | LOL |
| 15:49.07 | doughecka | Frisbeetarianism, n.: The belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. |
| 15:52.30 | rooter | hello all |
| 15:52.42 | doughecka | HI! |
| 15:53.46 | rooter | who admins the shellshock.dutchrai site? |
| 15:53.53 | Noodleman | dutchrai |
| 15:53.57 | doughecka | dutchrai |
| 15:53.58 | rooter | makes sence |
| 15:54.01 | Noodleman | dtuchrai@yahoo.com |
| 15:54.03 | rooter | sense |
| 15:54.06 | rooter | thanks |
| 15:54.11 | Noodleman | dutchrai@yahoo.com |
| 15:54.20 | doughecka | nobody can speeel thies days |
| 15:54.26 | rooter | wat? |
| 15:54.27 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:55.16 | Noodleman | der blieshtift ist blau und weiss! |
| 15:55.26 | doughecka | ~x de en |
| 15:55.29 | doughecka | ~x de en der blieshtift ist blau und weiss! |
| 15:55.31 | Noodleman | hehe, the only sentence in german i know :-P |
| 15:55.36 | doughecka | lol |
| 15:55.49 | doughecka | ~x de en der blie shtift ist blau und weiss! |
| 15:55.49 | Noodleman | the pencil is blue and white |
| 15:55.54 | doughecka | huh |
| 15:55.58 | doughecka | not very good |
| 15:56.01 | doughecka | :P |
| 15:56.15 | Noodleman | ~x en de the pencil is blue and white |
| 15:56.28 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:57.11 | Noodleman | i don't have that funny B charachter on my keyboard |
| 15:57.20 | Noodleman | but 'ss' is close enough |
| 15:57.23 | doughecka | thou makest my nose curdle |
| 15:57.32 | doughecka | :P |
| 15:57.52 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:57.59 | doughecka | ÆôöÅæùûòƒ |
| 15:57.59 | rooter | we had a student come in that changed her password while at home in china... |
| 15:58.06 | doughecka | rooter: hahhaha |
| 15:58.14 | doughecka | rooter: and she couldnt type it in? lol |
| 15:58.22 | rooter | when she got back she couldn't put her password in because the keys didn't match |
| 15:58.25 | rooter | n:) |
| 15:58.31 | doughecka | lol |
| 15:59.07 | Noodleman | lol |
| 15:59.14 | rooter | is she would have known the ascii equiv! |
| 15:59.33 | doughecka | lol |
| 15:59.56 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E94AB6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:00.08 | Noodleman | [TeA|TrEE] !! |
| 16:00.10 | [TeA|TrEE] | hello |
| 16:00.11 | rooter | hey TeA |
| 16:00.13 | doughecka | !! |
| 16:00.20 | [TeA|TrEE] | aaaaaah |
| 16:00.21 | [TeA|TrEE] | help |
| 16:00.27 | Noodleman | i stole doug's line ;-) |
| 16:00.35 | [TeA|TrEE] | :-) |
| 16:00.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | How are u guys |
| 16:00.44 | rooter | nifty |
| 16:00.47 | Noodleman | ~lart doughecka |
| 16:00.55 | doughecka | hm, that wouldnt be so bad |
| 16:00.58 | Noodleman | AAAUUUUUGH\GGGHH! |
| 16:01.04 | Noodleman | that IS bad! |
| 16:01.05 | doughecka | I run windows CE 2.1 |
| 16:01.11 | rooter | scary |
| 16:01.15 | doughecka | currently, I want a ipaq |
| 16:01.30 | doughecka | zaurus's are too unsupported and junk like that |
| 16:01.32 | doughecka | :P |
| 16:01.37 | rooter | i have an ipaq! |
| 16:01.44 | [TeA|TrEE] | what the bzBB addy? |
| 16:01.53 | doughecka | ~bzbb |
| 16:01.57 | [TeA|TrEE] | aaah |
| 16:01.57 | rooter | lol |
| 16:02.00 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:02.02 | doughecka | dunno |
| 16:02.02 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot ! |
| 16:02.03 | | [TeA|TrEE]: bugger all, i dunno |
| 16:02.03 | rooter | lol |
| 16:02.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzbb |
| 16:02.13 | | [TeA|TrEE]: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 16:02.16 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 16:02.19 | doughecka | ~lart the whole world is insane |
| 16:02.31 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~lart bla |
| 16:02.36 | Noodleman | bzbb is http://bzbb.homelinux.org/, ibot |
| 16:02.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | aaah |
| 16:02.53 | doughecka | ~fishslap Noodleman for making a scene |
| 16:02.54 | | ACTION slaps Noodleman up side the head with a wet fish for making a scene |
| 16:03.53 | Noodleman | ibot bzbb |
| 16:03.54 | | no idea, Noodleman |
| 16:04.09 | Noodleman | ibot bzbb is http://bzbb.homelinux.org/ |
| 16:04.10 | | Noodleman: okay |
| 16:04.11 | doughecka | ~bzbb is <reply> http://bzbb.homelinux.org/ |
| 16:04.12 | | ...but bzbb is already something else... |
| 16:04.17 | rooter | ha ha |
| 16:04.19 | Noodleman | bzbb? |
| 16:04.25 | doughecka | ~bzbbb is <reply> see Noodleman |
| 16:04.26 | | okay, doughecka |
| 16:04.28 | Noodleman | forget bzbb, ibot |
| 16:04.29 | doughecka | ~bzbbb |
| 16:04.30 | | somebody said noodleman was something |
| 16:04.57 | Noodleman | ~forget bzbbb |
| 16:04.57 | | i forgot bzbbb, Noodleman |
| 16:05.16 | Noodleman | ~bzbb is <reply> /kick doughecka |
| 16:05.16 | | ...but bzbb is already something else... |
| 16:05.23 | Noodleman | ~bzbbb is <reply> /kick doughecka |
| 16:05.23 | | okay, Noodleman |
| 16:05.28 | Noodleman | ~bzbbb |
| 16:05.29 | | /kick doughecka |
| 16:05.33 | doughecka | hah |
| 16:05.35 | Noodleman | bah |
| 16:05.37 | doughecka | hmm, that would be bad |
| 16:05.39 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 16:06.09 | doughecka | ~bzbbbb is <reply> /msg nickserv ghost Noodleman Noodleronis |
| 16:06.10 | | okay, doughecka |
| 16:06.15 | doughecka | ~bzbbbb |
| 16:06.16 | | /msg nickserv ghost Noodleman Noodleronis |
| 16:06.19 | doughecka | bah |
| 16:06.40 | Noodleman | let me figure this out... |
| 16:08.50 | doughecka | ah, he quit |
| 16:09.33 | Noodleman_ | hey |
| 16:09.42 | doughecka | ho |
| 16:10.04 | Noodleman_ | nope, that's not gunna work |
| 16:10.12 | doughecka | lol |
| 16:10.24 | Noodleman | tcpdump :-) |
| 16:10.36 | doughecka | heh |
| 16:10.36 | Noodleman | great tool |
| 16:11.05 | Noodleman | brb |
| 16:11.13 | *** join/#bzflag _paulj ([o2c6CKAFs@s0.alphyra.bbnplanet.net) |
| 16:12.22 | doughecka | _paulj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! short time no see.... :P |
| 16:12.58 | paul | doughecka: hi ya doug. how are things? |
| 16:13.03 | paul | doughecka: been behaving yourself? |
| 16:13.08 | doughecka | fine |
| 16:13.19 | doughecka | fineƒ |
| 16:13.22 | doughecka | no.. |
| 16:13.24 | paul | :) |
| 16:13.30 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.33 | Noodleman | brb |
| 16:21.42 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~chatzilla@216.228.187.207) |
| 16:29.41 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman_ (~noodle@deneb.penguinstalon.com) |
| 16:29.59 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~Cell@pD9E50C49.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:30.00 | Noodleman_ | this is a test |
| 16:30.04 | Cell | lo |
| 16:30.17 | Noodleman_ | Woo! |
| 16:30.30 | Noodleman_ | I'm doing this from telnet |
| 16:30.34 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 16:30.42 | Cell | how? |
| 16:31.14 | Cell | you know the irc RFC |
| 16:31.15 | Cell | ? |
| 16:31.37 | Noodleman_ | I was messing with tcpdump |
| 16:31.43 | Noodleman_ | decoded it that way |
| 16:32.11 | Cell | i could send emails with telnet or get ma mails via pop3 |
| 16:32.16 | Noodleman_ | now i'm gunna write a bot :-P |
| 16:32.22 | Noodleman_ | yes, i can |
| 16:32.23 | Cell | cool |
| 16:32.28 | Noodleman_ | i know the RFC's for those |
| 16:33.09 | Noodleman | irc is easy |
| 16:33.22 | Cell | i try it |
| 16:33.42 | Noodleman | when you first log in, just do 'NICK your nick' |
| 16:33.49 | Noodleman | there's more |
| 16:33.57 | Cell | k |
| 16:34.24 | Noodleman | USER foo bar baz :fred |
| 16:34.37 | Noodleman | JOIN #bzflag |
| 16:34.42 | Noodleman | MODE #bzflag |
| 16:34.45 | Cell | connection timed out, have to be faster |
| 16:34.55 | Noodleman | PRIVMSG #bzflag :your message |
| 16:35.38 | Cell | what does USER foo bar baz :fred mena? |
| 16:35.48 | Noodleman | not much :-) |
| 16:36.40 | Noodleman | bbl, gotta take some garbage to the dump :-( |
| 16:36.43 | Noodleman | :-P |
| 16:37.15 | Cell | i get : :calvino.freenode.net 461 Cell222 USER :Not enough parameters |
| 16:38.59 | *** join/#bzflag Cell222 (~jkj@pD9E50C49.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:39.33 | Cell222 | Hello from telnet |
| 16:40.10 | Noodleman_ | likesie! |
| 16:40.16 | Noodleman_ | likewise |
| 16:40.19 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 16:41.24 | Cell222 | kewl |
| 16:42.29 | Cell | tryed to ggole via telnet? |
| 16:42.34 | Cell | google |
| 16:42.52 | Cell | should be a http GET |
| 16:43.07 | Cell | request |
| 16:43.41 | Cell | with the serach parameters following the url |
| 16:44.11 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~Patlabor2@208.48.199.214) |
| 16:44.38 | doughecka | 'lo Patlabor221!!!! |
| 16:44.49 | Cell222 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.19 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:46.21 | Patlabor221 | telnet? |
| 16:46.42 | Cell | yes Noodleman showed me how to log to irc via tlnet |
| 16:48.19 | Cell | i can also read my mail and send it using telnet |
| 16:48.26 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 16:48.54 | Cell | fun, too see how the different protocols communicate |
| 16:49.27 | Patlabor221 | doug did you not do it via telnet onece |
| 16:49.34 | Cell | and in a situation where there is only telnet available its worth to know |
| 16:50.19 | doughecka | lol |
| 16:50.25 | Patlabor221 | actualy I have 3 laptops now |
| 16:50.27 | doughecka | yea, I did |
| 16:50.43 | doughecka | I know how to do all that stuff to, but I enjoy guis better |
| 16:51.39 | Cell | how do would you delete every second of 10000 of messages in your mailbox |
| 16:51.41 | Cell | ? |
| 16:51.54 | Patlabor221 | would depend on your mail app |
| 16:52.02 | Patlabor221 | in telnet, write a script |
| 16:52.12 | Cell | i did with c# using Pop3 communication |
| 16:52.21 | Patlabor221 | that would be a script |
| 16:52.25 | Cell | yep |
| 16:57.15 | Cell | tommorrow i planned 3 things to do after school: first write an bzw export script, second write a bsp component, and third play Gothic :) |
| 16:57.42 | Cell | i got that game for 10$ |
| 16:58.15 | Patlabor221 | I think you'll only get #3 done. |
| 16:58.26 | Cell | lol, hope not |
| 16:59.08 | Patlabor221 | we all hope for things. but in reality it is up to us to get those things we hope for. and humans are enhaernatly weak, so you will only do #3 |
| 16:59.40 | Patlabor221 | ick that game is by infrogramers, it can't be good. |
| 16:59.56 | Cell | you played it? |
| 17:00.06 | Patlabor221 | looking at it now |
| 17:00.15 | Cell | oh i like it |
| 17:00.33 | Patlabor221 | looks horibly generic |
| 17:00.43 | doughecka | HI! |
| 17:01.04 | Cell | its very realistic, and i like that you can talk with ppl |
| 17:01.13 | doughecka | uh hu |
| 17:01.16 | doughecka | real AI? |
| 17:01.25 | Patlabor221 | looks to be a fallout clone |
| 17:01.26 | Cell | donno |
| 17:01.26 | Patlabor221 | and a bad one |
| 17:01.37 | Patlabor221 | you dhaven't played many RPGs have you |
| 17:01.44 | Patlabor221 | doug no it's just a RPG |
| 17:01.53 | Cell | i played ff series |
| 17:01.58 | Cell | and zelda |
| 17:02.07 | Patlabor221 | this is an american style RPG |
| 17:02.13 | Patlabor221 | those are Japanese RPGs |
| 17:02.15 | Patlabor221 | difrent |
| 17:02.30 | Cell | thats what i like, that it is different |
| 17:02.32 | Patlabor221 | average rating if 7.2 |
| 17:02.54 | Cell | out of 10, i quess, is pretty ok |
| 17:03.11 | Patlabor221 | it's actualy in the low end of games |
| 17:03.19 | Patlabor221 | no games make it to market that rate under 5 |
| 17:03.38 | Patlabor221 | average is in the 8.5 - 8.9 range these days |
| 17:04.17 | Cell | oh |
| 17:04.35 | Patlabor221 | stuff in the 7's means it runs, but is nothing new. dosn't break nay new ground. |
| 17:05.54 | Cell | ok, maybe its my luck that i dontknow the good stuff, so im quite contently with the game |
| 17:05.54 | Patlabor221 | gothic II is suposed to ship tomrow |
| 17:06.16 | Patlabor221 | well if you havent played many others like it, it may seem good. |
| 17:06.22 | Patlabor221 | nothing wrong with that. |
| 17:06.30 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E94AB6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:07.29 | *** join/#bzflag Blisty^gone (blisty@D5773424.kabel.telenet.be) |
| 17:07.43 | Blisty^gone | helloooooooooo |
| 17:07.50 | Blisty^gone | anyone knows how to find servers for this game? |
| 17:07.50 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 17:08.05 | Patlabor221 | if you say find server they should be listed for you. |
| 17:08.24 | Blisty^gone | well |
| 17:08.29 | Blisty^gone | it gives some sort of error :s |
| 17:08.36 | Patlabor221 | what is the error |
| 17:08.39 | Blisty^gone | because i want to play :( |
| 17:08.44 | Blisty^gone | hold on |
| 17:08.44 | Blisty^gone | lemme see |
| 17:08.54 | Patlabor221 | like could not connect to list server? |
| 17:09.49 | Blisty^gone | yup |
| 17:09.49 | Blisty^gone | :p |
| 17:10.16 | Patlabor221 | are you behind a firewall or any other type of network filter? |
| 17:10.25 | Blisty^gone | don't think so |
| 17:10.27 | Blisty^gone | it says |
| 17:10.29 | Patlabor221 | the list server is up I just connected to it. |
| 17:10.36 | Blisty^gone | can't connect blab lab ... list.txt |
| 17:10.40 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:10.53 | Patlabor221 | your machine tried to get to the list server address and it could not |
| 17:10.56 | Blisty^gone | turned of my firewall :s |
| 17:11.15 | Patlabor221 | ether something on the internet is preventing you from geting there, or something on your system |
| 17:11.25 | Patlabor221 | well something is blocking it. |
| 17:11.29 | Blisty^gone | :( |
| 17:11.32 | Blisty^gone | snif snif |
| 17:11.32 | Patlabor221 | try going to the URL manualy |
| 17:11.46 | Blisty^gone | what is the url :| |
| 17:11.48 | Patlabor221 | are you behind a NAT or DSL router or anything like that |
| 17:11.55 | Blisty^gone | don't think so |
| 17:11.56 | Patlabor221 | what ever it said in the error message. |
| 17:11.59 | Blisty^gone | hmm |
| 17:12.09 | Patlabor221 | are you on a dialup or boradband? |
| 17:12.18 | Blisty^gone | broadband |
| 17:12.42 | Patlabor221 | does your boradband provider allow UDP and/or filter any ports? |
| 17:12.47 | Blisty^gone | hmm |
| 17:12.54 | Blisty^gone | really don't know |
| 17:13.08 | Patlabor221 | let me find the list serv URL |
| 17:13.30 | Patlabor221 | http://BZFlag.SourceForge.net/list-server.txt |
| 17:13.33 | Patlabor221 | can you get to that? |
| 17:13.44 | Blisty^gone | lemme see |
| 17:13.52 | Blisty^gone | bzflist://204.228.134.186:5156/ |
| 17:13.57 | Blisty^gone | that's what i can see |
| 17:14.02 | Patlabor221 | can you ping 204.228.134.186 |
| 17:14.24 | Patlabor221 | and what version are you running? |
| 17:14.37 | Blisty^gone | i can ping it yes |
| 17:14.46 | Blisty^gone | 1.7 g0 |
| 17:15.00 | Patlabor221 | then it should work, or you are blocking port 5156 |
| 17:15.11 | Patlabor221 | that's all it can be |
| 17:15.46 | Blisty^gone | dunno |
| 17:15.48 | Blisty^gone | brb |
| 17:16.20 | Jormungandr | I sometimes time out to the list server. hasn't happened in a while though. |
| 17:16.35 | Jormungandr | and you can usually find the problem with traceroute. |
| 17:17.50 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~3dart |
| 17:17.56 | Patlabor221 | this is why I think there should be a cascading list of listservs |
| 17:18.21 | Jormungandr | or at least a backup list server, maybe |
| 17:18.46 | Jormungandr | I've all but given up on linux bzedit compile. |
| 17:19.13 | Jormungandr | I've installed everything it says it needs, and it still doesn't find it, even when I tell it where it is. |
| 17:19.45 | *** join/#bzflag ISFry (~Fry@65.168.86.30) |
| 17:19.54 | Patlabor221 | that is rather lame of it |
| 17:20.13 | Jormungandr | ITYM totally annoying ;) |
| 17:22.28 | Blisty^gone | (18:16:01) (Jormungandr) I sometimes time out to the list server. hasn't happened in a while though. // jup alwasys getting timed out :( |
| 17:24.36 | Blisty^gone | SNIF SNIF |
| 17:24.40 | Blisty^gone | i want to play the game :( |
| 17:25.23 | Patlabor221 | sounds like your net connection has issues |
| 17:26.05 | *** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@aden2-123-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 17:26.25 | Jormungandr | blisty... try this.... go to bzflag.dragon.org, click on the stats link, and find an active server. hand enter that address in your setup. |
| 17:26.37 | Jormungandr | see ifyou can join |
| 17:26.48 | Patlabor221 | that's another way |
| 17:26.48 | Blisty^gone | hmm |
| 17:26.51 | Blisty^gone | hold on :p |
| 17:26.53 | Patlabor221 | manual list serv :) |
| 17:26.58 | Jormungandr | that works :) |
| 17:27.11 | Jormungandr | at least he'll know if they are blocking bz ports. |
| 17:27.12 | Patlabor221 | there that shoudl fix the base problem in BZE |
| 17:27.25 | Jormungandr | cool. |
| 17:27.34 | Jormungandr | the windows one is just really unstable for me usually. |
| 17:27.42 | Jormungandr | I wish I could get linux one to work. |
| 17:27.45 | doughecka | Patlabor221: yay |
| 17:27.52 | doughecka | how about the delete thing? |
| 17:28.14 | Jormungandr | I hate CVS. |
| 17:28.14 | Blisty^gone | Jormungandr |
| 17:28.15 | Blisty^gone | http://bzflag.dragon.org/stats.php |
| 17:28.18 | Patlabor221 | doug that was never a feature |
| 17:28.22 | Jormungandr | yes, blisty |
| 17:28.23 | Blisty^gone | how do i know it's active? ;:p |
| 17:28.28 | Jormungandr | click on a server |
| 17:28.36 | Jormungandr | see if it has people on it. |
| 17:28.39 | Jormungandr | scroll down |
| 17:28.50 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 17:28.50 | doughecka | greetings |
| 17:29.00 | Jormungandr | let me see what's active... |
| 17:29.02 | doughecka | hmm? |
| 17:29.02 | Blisty^gone | aaaaaaaaah |
| 17:29.03 | Blisty^gone | kewl ;) |
| 17:29.19 | Jormungandr | try happypenquin |
| 17:29.28 | Jormungandr | penguin |
| 17:29.34 | Patlabor221 | doug hiting the delete key to remove an object was never a feature. |
| 17:29.39 | doughecka | oh |
| 17:29.46 | doughecka | how about the remove button? |
| 17:29.54 | Patlabor221 | it works |
| 17:29.54 | doughecka | does that work? |
| 17:29.56 | doughecka | oh |
| 17:29.57 | doughecka | ok |
| 17:30.11 | Patlabor221 | allways worked |
| 17:30.21 | *** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@aden2-123-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 17:30.37 | Blisty^gone | ok |
| 17:30.40 | Blisty^gone | i could connect |
| 17:30.42 | Blisty^gone | but then |
| 17:30.47 | Blisty^gone | server suddenly disc. |
| 17:31.03 | Patlabor221 | what was your lag to it? |
| 17:31.10 | Blisty^gone | dunno :p |
| 17:31.20 | doughecka | wow |
| 17:31.22 | doughecka | ~bzflist |
| 17:31.27 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you are just extra lagy today |
| 17:31.30 | Jormungandr | try connecting to dragon.org 5155... I'll watch the logs. |
| 17:31.33 | doughecka | the first server is bugged out |
| 17:31.36 | Noodleman_ | ~noodleroni |
| 17:32.17 | Noodleman_ | i'm gonna make an irc bot that spits out shakespearean insults :-) |
| 17:32.19 | Blisty^gone | kewl |
| 17:32.22 | Blisty^gone | it worked ^-^ |
| 17:32.24 | Blisty^gone | thx guys ;) |
| 17:32.27 | Jormungandr | what worked? |
| 17:32.39 | Blisty^gone | i could connect :p |
| 17:32.44 | Jormungandr | which server? |
| 17:32.54 | Blisty^gone | dunno :p |
| 17:32.57 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 17:32.57 | Blisty^gone | but now i'm gone |
| 17:32.59 | Blisty^gone | cu laters ;) |
| 17:33.01 | Jormungandr | later |
| 17:33.18 | Jormungandr | noodleman, do you have scripts to rotate server? |
| 17:33.25 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 17:33.36 | Noodleman | mine are in php |
| 17:33.45 | Noodleman | don't know about jzaun's |
| 17:33.51 | Jormungandr | I am prolly going to rotate on dragon.org |
| 17:33.52 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:34.06 | Jormungandr | but I use chroot, so it might or might not work from a php script. |
| 17:34.07 | Noodleman | cool |
| 17:34.10 | Noodleman | email me |
| 17:34.13 | Noodleman | tucker@noodleroni.com |
| 17:34.17 | Jormungandr | okie. |
| 17:34.25 | doughecka | noodlehead@noodleroni.com |
| 17:34.32 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 17:34.36 | Noodleman | that would bounce |
| 17:34.39 | doughecka | darn |
| 17:34.42 | doughecka | no catchall? |
| 17:34.54 | Noodleman | to you think i'm stupid??? :-) |
| 17:35.04 | doughecka | bah |
| 17:35.48 | Jormungandr | our company does a catch all and that happens to be our support email address. |
| 17:35.53 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:36.00 | Jormungandr | we delete hundreds of spams a day from support mail. |
| 17:36.12 | Patlabor221 | new bzedit posted for testing on bzbb |
| 17:36.16 | doughecka | helpmeIamanidiotpleasehelpme@dragon.org |
| 17:36.25 | Jormungandr | that'd bounce ;) |
| 17:36.33 | doughecka | darn |
| 17:36.43 | Jormungandr | dragon.org is my personal domain, not associated with work. |
| 17:36.51 | doughecka | oh yea |
| 17:37.10 | Patlabor221 | shutupdoug@bakadigital.com |
| 17:37.24 | Noodleman | that'd bouce? |
| 17:37.26 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 17:37.39 | doughecka | flibble@idiotdigital.com |
| 17:37.52 | Patlabor221 | did you register iditot digital? |
| 17:37.59 | doughecka | no |
| 17:38.07 | Patlabor221 | how boug digital idiot. |
| 17:38.21 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 17:38.27 | Patlabor221 | and again you don't have $8 |
| 17:38.58 | Patlabor221 | car or ham? |
| 17:39.14 | doughecka | the pig type |
| 17:39.28 | Jormungandr | ~lart noodleman's secretary.pl |
| 17:39.29 | Patlabor221 | ooo shutupdoug.com is avail |
| 17:39.34 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 17:39.37 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 17:39.47 | Noodleman | heck, i don't get spammed in my main inbox :-) |
| 17:39.52 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:39.55 | Jormungandr | I should whitelist |
| 17:39.58 | Patlabor221 | hell I could even make a shutupdoug non profic org |
| 17:40.09 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:40.13 | Noodleman | if you confirm your message, it will whitelist you |
| 17:40.17 | Patlabor221 | "brought to you by the commitie to have doug shut up" |
| 17:40.18 | doughecka | but you WANT to profit off of it, wont it? |
| 17:40.30 | Noodleman | i love writing scripts, can you tell :-) |
| 17:40.36 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 17:40.52 | doughecka | Noodleman: heh, did you look at them scripts on heck.no-ip.com |
| 17:40.54 | Jormungandr | write a pl script that connects as a client to bzfs that you can admin from ;) |
| 17:41.05 | Noodleman | i will |
| 17:41.09 | doughecka | Jormungandr: and hooks to IRC |
| 17:41.09 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:41.11 | Noodleman | i was planning on it |
| 17:41.11 | doughecka | or AIM |
| 17:41.22 | Jormungandr | I have an aim2irc script. |
| 17:41.26 | Noodleman | i could do one that hooks up to irc too |
| 17:41.28 | Jormungandr | it's a little buggy, but it works. |
| 17:41.33 | doughecka | hehee |
| 17:41.50 | Jormungandr | brb... making coffee. |
| 17:42.01 | doughecka | COOFEE! |
| 17:42.09 | Noodleman | c00fee? |
| 17:42.11 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 17:42.32 | doughecka | c00f33 |
| 17:43.09 | Noodleman_ | Jormungandr: i'll send you the scripts as soon as i get back from the dump in a few |
| 17:44.02 | doughecka | hehehe |
| 17:44.12 | Noodleman_telnet | hehehehehehehehehehehehe |
| 17:44.53 | doughecka | how do I connect? whats the first thing I type ing? |
| 17:45.12 | Noodleman | NICK bzdoug |
| 17:45.16 | doughecka | I did |
| 17:45.21 | Noodleman | USER foo bar baz :fred |
| 17:45.22 | doughecka | but it disconnects |
| 17:45.24 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:45.29 | Noodleman | JOIN #bzflag |
| 17:45.34 | Noodleman | MODE #bzflag |
| 17:45.39 | Noodleman | PRIVMSG #bzflag :message |
| 17:45.55 | Noodleman_telnet | i'll bbl |
| 17:46.01 | doughecka | k |
| 17:46.10 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 17:46.14 | Jormungandr | okie |
| 17:46.15 | Jormungandr | thanks |
| 17:46.30 | *** join/#bzflag bzdouggg (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 17:46.33 | doughecka | haha |
| 17:47.18 | Jormungandr | o/~ that's why all the folks on Rocky Top get their corn from a jar! o/~ |
| 17:47.38 | Jormungandr | some bluegrass is too fun for words. |
| 17:47.38 | Patlabor221 | you people are freaks |
| 17:47.48 | doughecka | look whos talkin |
| 17:47.55 | Jormungandr | pot, kettle, black |
| 17:47.57 | Patlabor221 | I'm not on tellnet |
| 17:47.57 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 17:48.19 | Patlabor221 | hell I'm even usin Xchat, the good one |
| 17:48.23 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 17:48.24 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:48.32 | bzdougg_telnet | lol |
| 17:48.44 | bzdougg_telnet | yay |
| 17:48.49 | Patlabor221 | see look at that ^^^^ freak. |
| 17:48.55 | doughecka | an incredibly hard way to chat |
| 17:49.45 | Patlabor221 | jrom you have a nasty name on dragon |
| 17:49.51 | Jormungandr | huh? |
| 17:49.52 | doughecka | ~dragon |
| 17:50.05 | Jormungandr | hrm. |
| 17:50.10 | doughecka | he should call it cow pie |
| 17:50.31 | bzdougg_telnet | me test |
| 17:50.34 | doughecka | hm |
| 17:50.54 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:51.18 | Patlabor221 | yes it's bery cool that you quit |
| 17:51.48 | doughecka | hmm, a palm pilot, a packet modem, and a radio, and you have a small device that can locate everybody with APRS on the planet |
| 17:52.01 | Patlabor221 | all 5 of them? |
| 17:52.12 | doughecka | all 10000 of them |
| 17:52.21 | Jormungandr | bug on server... you send message to someone, and if they leave, it goes public. |
| 17:52.31 | doughecka | hmm, interesting |
| 17:52.40 | Patlabor221 | must be default |
| 17:52.51 | Patlabor221 | and you know these 10000 people? |
| 17:53.00 | doughecka | http://aprs.net/ click map: world |
| 17:53.09 | Noodleman_telnet | /me is testing |
| 17:53.15 | Noodleman_telnet | hmm |
| 17:53.17 | doughecka | Noodleman_telnet: cool |
| 17:53.22 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.23 | Patlabor221 | I'm not a voyeur like you. |
| 17:53.34 | Noodleman | ahh, ACTION message |
| 17:54.01 | *** join/#bzflag BZDOUGGGG (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 17:54.06 | Noodleman_telnet | ACTION is testing again, with feeling |
| 17:54.11 | Noodleman | grrrrr |
| 17:54.21 | Patlabor221 | time to take the cat to ye old vet |
| 17:54.21 | BZDOUGGGG | ACTION boo |
| 17:54.43 | Noodleman_telnet | ok bbl |
| 17:54.48 | BZDOUGGGG | hmm |
| 17:57.07 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~Cell@pD9E50C49.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:57.55 | Jormungandr | ~bzflist |
| 17:59.08 | Jormungandr | I could see where a team with someone who is pz'd could kick butt if they worked together. |
| 18:05.54 | Jormungandr | it must be "needy kitty hour" |
| 18:06.00 | Jormungandr | they are taking turns. |
| 18:07.18 | doughecka | how? |
| 18:08.17 | Jormungandr | come to my computer chair and weave between feet until I pick them up. |
| 18:08.22 | Jormungandr | 2 of them are vocal about it. |
| 18:08.39 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:09.01 | Jormungandr | waiting for dumuzi to hunt down and kill a sock for me. |
| 18:09.07 | Jormungandr | that's how he gets his morning attention. |
| 18:09.15 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:09.26 | Jormungandr | finds random sock in the house and drags it around like it's a gazelle that he just killed |
| 18:09.33 | Jormungandr | he howls at the top of his lungs when he does it. |
| 18:09.45 | Jormungandr | then he brings it and drops it at my feet. |
| 18:09.54 | doughecka | haha |
| 18:10.00 | Jormungandr | glad they are not outdoor cats and that we don't have mice. |
| 18:10.14 | doughecka | ugh |
| 18:10.33 | Jormungandr | just gotta teach him to do that with the newspaper, then he'd be deserving of the affection ;) |
| 18:11.00 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:11.03 | Jormungandr | he deserves it anyway... he's sweet. |
| 18:11.31 | doughecka | ack |
| 18:11.47 | Jormungandr | http://www.sacredcup.org/frcameron/gallery/miscgal2/Pages/7.html |
| 18:11.55 | Jormungandr | that's dumuzi :) |
| 18:12.09 | Jormungandr | between hunts |
| 18:12.43 | doughecka | hehe |
| 18:12.46 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@mxfcl6x150.chesco.com) |
| 18:12.54 | Jormungandr | he's so cute. silly cats. |
| 18:12.57 | doughecka | MrApathyCream!@!!!! |
| 18:13.00 | Jormungandr | hi M_A_C |
| 18:13.44 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 18:14.07 | Jormungandr | this one is a little blurry.. but this is how he sleeps on my lap... |
| 18:14.10 | Jormungandr | http://www.sacredcup.org/frcameron/gallery/miscgal2/Pages/59.html |
| 18:14.21 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:14.34 | Jormungandr | he has to have one hand over his face |
| 18:14.48 | Jormungandr | because when we got him he was 4 days old, and had been abandoned. |
| 18:14.55 | Jormungandr | I fed him with a dropper, then a bottle. |
| 18:15.00 | doughecka | ool |
| 18:15.01 | doughecka | cool |
| 18:15.12 | Jormungandr | and had to hold his head still by putting my thumb on the bridge of his nose. |
| 18:15.16 | Jormungandr | he still loves that. |
| 18:15.24 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:15.32 | Jormungandr | I can cover his whole face and he just sleeps and purrs. |
| 18:15.52 | Jormungandr | he even hugs my arm to make sure I don't move my hand. |
| 18:15.58 | doughecka | hehe |
| 18:16.30 | Jormungandr | I keep forgetting what kind of craziness is in that gallery. |
| 18:17.01 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:17.42 | Jormungandr | I need to get my other official pics up.. .that one pic of me in vestments make me look silly. :) |
| 18:18.06 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:19.45 | doughecka | WOO! |
| 18:19.54 | Jormungandr | ? |
| 18:20.19 | doughecka | I felt like saying that |
| 18:20.26 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 18:24.07 | Jormungandr | there is an internet cafe that does bzflag in the cafe between customers that I see on dragon.org sometimes. all from same IP, not bots. |
| 18:24.17 | Jormungandr | kinda cool |
| 18:24.20 | Jormungandr | ~dragon |
| 18:24.22 | doughecka | haha |
| 18:24.35 | Jormungandr | they all ran away. their fries must have arrived. |
| 18:24.49 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:25.03 | Noodleman_telnet | ACTION is testing again |
| 18:25.09 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 18:25.11 | Noodleman | grrrrr |
| 18:25.14 | doughecka | haha |
| 18:25.36 | Jormungandr | hrm. |
| 18:25.40 | Noodleman | do you know what the irc command is, jorm? |
| 18:25.47 | Jormungandr | which? |
| 18:25.56 | Jormungandr | should be ACTION |
| 18:25.58 | Noodleman | the /me command |
| 18:26.12 | Noodleman | :leguin.freenode.net 421 Noodleman_telnet ACTION :Unknown command |
| 18:26.17 | Jormungandr | hrm. |
| 18:26.27 | Jormungandr | let me look |
| 18:27.40 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 18:27.50 | Noodleman | *squish* |
| 18:28.07 | Noodleman | sheesh... |
| 18:28.09 | MrApathyCream | Mrs Apathy Cream wants to tell everyone that Mr. Apathy Cream will not be able to play with everyone for a few weeks |
| 18:28.26 | doughecka | MrApathyCream: awww, being grounded? |
| 18:28.30 | Jormungandr | what's that MAC? |
| 18:28.34 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:28.42 | doughecka | MrApathyCream got in trouble! |
| 18:30.47 | Noodleman | ~lart doughecka |
| 18:31.31 | Jormungandr | can't find ACTION in Net::IRC |
| 18:31.32 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:31.38 | doughecka | LOL |
| 18:31.56 | Noodleman | :doughecka!SteveJobs@216.135.68.133 PRIVMSG #bzflag :ACTION ducks |
| 18:32.04 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:32.05 | Noodleman | that's what doug just said |
| 18:32.09 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:32.15 | Jormungandr | try that |
| 18:32.17 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:32.38 | Noodleman | g2g |
| 18:32.38 | *** join/#bzflag BZDouggg (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 18:32.48 | BZDouggg | ACTION ducks |
| 18:32.51 | doughecka | huh |
| 18:32.57 | doughecka | I copy and pasted it in |
| 18:32.57 | doughecka | odd |
| 18:33.05 | Jormungandr | hrm. |
| 18:33.06 | Jormungandr | wierd. |
| 18:33.07 | scanline | Noodleman: there's a control character in there, I think it's 001 |
| 18:33.26 | BZDouggg | 001ACTION ducks |
| 18:33.31 | doughecka | how? |
| 18:33.32 | scanline | heh |
| 18:33.43 | scanline | being a control character, you can't type it |
| 18:33.45 | BZDouggg | 007ACTION BOOM! |
| 18:33.48 | doughecka | oh |
| 18:33.52 | doughecka | how do I type it then? |
| 18:33.56 | scanline | you don't |
| 18:33.59 | scanline | you use an IRC client |
| 18:34.02 | scanline | ~sud |
| 18:34.03 | | shut up doug |
| 18:34.04 | doughecka | bah |
| 18:34.10 | doughecka | TELNET FOREVER! |
| 18:34.35 | *** part/#bzflag BZDouggg (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 18:34.46 | *** join/#bzflag BZDouggg (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 18:34.55 | doughecka | darn |
| 18:35.04 | doughecka | how do I make it say something when I quit? |
| 18:35.43 | Jormungandr | PRIVMSG #channel :<CTRL-A>ACTION lalalalala<CTRL-A> |
| 18:35.49 | Jormungandr | or PRIVMSG #channel :<CTRL-A>ACTION<CTRL-A> lalalalala |
| 18:36.23 | *** join/#bzflag BZDOUGGG (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 18:36.27 | Jormungandr | forgot about the control a |
| 18:37.02 | BZDOUGGG | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.06 | doughecka | hah |
| 18:37.10 | Jormungandr | that didn't work very good :) |
| 18:37.19 | scanline | Jormungandr: bah, you're not supposed to tell doug how to do things |
| 18:37.26 | Jormungandr | sorry |
| 18:37.29 | Jormungandr | noodleman asked |
| 18:37.30 | Jormungandr | not doug |
| 18:37.37 | Jormungandr | doug is just being nosey ;0 |
| 18:37.47 | scanline | so /msg noodleman, or rot13 it so doug can't read |
| 18:37.53 | Jormungandr | hahahahaha |
| 18:37.58 | doughecka | ~rot13 doug cant read |
| 18:37.58 | | qbht pnag ernq |
| 18:38.29 | BZDOUGGG | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.54 | Noodleman | scanline: how does an irc client do it? |
| 18:41.37 | Noodleman_telnet | ACTION ducks |
| 18:41.43 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:41.53 | Noodleman_telnet | oops |
| 18:42.06 | BZDOUGGG | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.30 | Jormungandr | hm.. I want to make a mushroom risotto tomorrow night for dinner, but can't decide what kind of stock I want to use. |
| 18:43.42 | Noodleman | enron |
| 18:43.42 | doughecka | chicken |
| 18:43.57 | doughecka | darn, he ducked |
| 18:43.57 | Jormungandr | I have some porcini mushrooms, and some really good truffle paste. |
| 18:43.59 | Noodleman | ~sud |
| 18:43.59 | | shut up doug |
| 18:44.02 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 18:44.03 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 18:44.14 | doughecka | Jormungandr: beef? |
| 18:44.23 | doughecka | Jormungandr: or how about turkey stock? |
| 18:44.24 | Jormungandr | I guess it depends on the main course |
| 18:44.29 | Jormungandr | which I haven't decided yet |
| 18:44.33 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~Patlabor2@208.48.199.214) |
| 18:44.34 | doughecka | main course is ice cream |
| 18:44.37 | doughecka | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 18:44.40 | Jormungandr | turkey is decidedly NOT italian :) |
| 18:45.00 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hmm, how about noodle stock? |
| 18:45.06 | Jormungandr | you are a silly boy |
| 18:45.28 | Jormungandr | chicken or vegetable, probably. |
| 18:45.32 | doughecka | just boil a few Noodlemans, and you have some rather bland tasting stock |
| 18:45.35 | Jormungandr | I could make veggie stock. |
| 18:45.41 | doughecka | hmm.. |
| 18:45.44 | Noodleman | ~rsud |
| 18:45.44 | | fuhg hc qbht |
| 18:45.49 | Jormungandr | take a while, but it could be fun |
| 18:45.58 | Jormungandr | that's almost rude :) |
| 18:46.01 | doughecka | I own stock |
| 18:46.10 | Jormungandr | I owned stock. |
| 18:46.11 | Noodleman | yeah, livestock :-) |
| 18:46.12 | Jormungandr | never again. |
| 18:46.18 | Jormungandr | it was Global Crossing stock. |
| 18:46.23 | Noodleman | ouch |
| 18:46.24 | doughecka | ugh |
| 18:46.29 | Jormungandr | a lot |
| 18:46.33 | doughecka | at least it wasnt enron |
| 18:46.42 | Jormungandr | might as well have been. |
| 18:47.05 | Jormungandr | oh, well. it's only money. |
| 18:47.16 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:47.16 | Noodleman | money is a strange thing, it only exsits because people believe it does |
| 18:47.18 | doughecka | green stuff |
| 18:47.53 | doughecka | yay |
| 18:47.58 | doughecka | I got it to say something |
| 18:48.04 | Noodleman | huh? |
| 18:48.04 | Jormungandr | I am sorta thankful of the modern translations of the vow of detachment, and that it doesn't have to be accompanied by a vow of poverty. |
| 18:48.13 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 18:48.34 | Jormungandr | I lived under vow of poverty for about 5 years. very hard to do. |
| 18:48.41 | Noodleman | i'm sure |
| 18:48.50 | Jormungandr | the IRS part is nice. |
| 18:48.53 | Jormungandr | don't even have to file. |
| 18:48.54 | Noodleman | are you a monk? |
| 18:48.57 | Jormungandr | yes |
| 18:48.57 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:49.02 | Noodleman | ah, i see |
| 18:49.03 | Noodleman | cool |
| 18:49.15 | Jormungandr | in-the-world order. |
| 18:49.27 | Noodleman | that would be nice |
| 18:49.33 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 18:49.33 | Jormungandr | I'd love to be cloistered, but our economy won't allow it. |
| 18:49.37 | Noodleman | don't have to live in a monastery |
| 18:49.39 | Jormungandr | hi pat. |
| 18:50.12 | Jormungandr | what happened? |
| 18:50.15 | doughecka | cat |
| 18:50.19 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:50.23 | Patlabor221 | cat->Vet() |
| 18:50.27 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:50.32 | Jormungandr | my last cat incident is just now almost healed. |
| 18:50.36 | Patlabor221 | cat != happy |
| 18:50.43 | Noodleman | lol |
| 18:50.50 | Jormungandr | we have to have mobile vet come to the house. |
| 18:50.57 | doughecka | cat+VET != good time |
| 18:50.57 | Patlabor221 | even the techs could not hold her |
| 18:51.04 | Jormungandr | :( |
| 18:51.08 | Patlabor221 | so I had to |
| 18:51.11 | Jormungandr | ow |
| 18:51.12 | Patlabor221 | it's just blood |
| 18:51.13 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:51.27 | Jormungandr | at least she didn't scratch the bone. |
| 18:51.29 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:51.33 | Patlabor221 | I have had lots of practice |
| 18:51.41 | Noodleman | strcpy(myHappiness, catsHappiness); |
| 18:51.43 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:51.58 | Patlabor221 | it's not a direct copy |
| 18:52.12 | Patlabor221 | cus I can just lock her in the bathroom till she realsises she's being a bitch |
| 18:52.19 | Noodleman | lol |
| 18:52.35 | Patlabor221 | she gets fixed soon, so that will help |
| 18:52.43 | Jormungandr | that's for sure. |
| 18:52.56 | Jormungandr | dumuzi does something wrong, and knows it and runs for the bedroom. |
| 18:53.10 | Jormungandr | I go in and close the door, and he lays on the floor and cries, cuz he knows he was bad. |
| 18:53.14 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:53.25 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:53.28 | Noodleman | cats... |
| 18:53.37 | Jormungandr | he doesn't even get swatted very hard, but he gets a serious talking to. |
| 18:54.01 | Patlabor221 | water works better |
| 18:54.04 | Jormungandr | he gets bored and picks on our other 2 cats. |
| 18:54.04 | Noodleman | i had a big obnoxious cat that would do something bad, and let the other cat take the blame :-) |
| 18:54.04 | Jormungandr | yeah |
| 18:54.24 | Jormungandr | one of the other 2 can hold her own... the other is a big mush-head. |
| 18:55.33 | Jormungandr | dumuzi is dangerous to strangers, sometimes. |
| 18:55.39 | Jormungandr | he stalks the alarm guy |
| 18:56.04 | Jormungandr | I have to put him on the porch when people who are not friends are over. |
| 18:56.22 | Jormungandr | he attacked the vet assistant, and she had to have stiches. |
| 18:56.59 | Chestal | anyone here into SOAP/web service stuff? |
| 18:57.09 | Noodleman | me |
| 18:57.19 | Noodleman | sup? |
| 18:57.56 | Chestal | I'm jsut now trying to read good documents discussing it, to see what it is and whether it's actually useful |
| 18:58.02 | Chestal | sure looks overhyped |
| 18:58.27 | Noodleman | it's useful to a degree |
| 18:58.34 | Noodleman | mostly for database stuff |
| 18:58.37 | Chestal | problem is that my knowledge about roughly comparable technologies like CORBA is only mediocre |
| 18:59.07 | Patlabor221 | doug! |
| 18:59.19 | Chestal | seems like reinventing the wheel with mostly inferior technology to me, althoguh it might have some uses in very coarse grained integration |
| 19:00.08 | Noodleman | i would probably only use it if you wanted to let other people do lookups in you database |
| 19:00.20 | Chestal | to much hype and not enough peopel out there who actualyl know what they're talking about |
| 19:00.56 | Chestal | (which in turn makes it more difficult to see where the real advantages are because there are so many false arguments) |
| 19:01.01 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 19:01.42 | Chestal | reminds me of the Java hype |
| 19:02.00 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 19:02.20 | Chestal | Java has its uses, no doubt, but people backing it usually jsut talk nonsense |
| 19:02.31 | Noodleman | they both have about as much usefullness for what they are supposed to do |
| 19:02.47 | Chestal | whereas people who have experience with the 'old' technology seem to use much more profound arguments |
| 19:03.40 | Chestal | oh well, I'll read some more |
| 19:07.12 | Noodleman | does anyone know how to make stdout buffered in perl? |
| 19:08.18 | Jormungandr | nope. |
| 19:08.31 | Jormungandr | all my perl hacker friends are at work, and not on irc :) |
| 19:11.23 | Noodleman | i guess i meant to say unbuffered |
| 19:11.25 | Noodleman | i found it |
| 19:16.04 | Jormungandr | patlabor? your link for new bzedit is 404 |
| 19:20.39 | Patlabor221 | umm no it's not |
| 19:20.55 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 19:20.58 | Patlabor221 | I allways forget that I have that damned subfolder on that machine now. |
| 19:21.34 | Jormungandr | still getting 404 |
| 19:21.42 | Patlabor221 | gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 19:21.42 | Jormungandr | I hate IE |
| 19:22.13 | Patlabor221 | there we go |
| 19:22.20 | Patlabor221 | you can turn on explicid errors |
| 19:22.40 | Jormungandr | yeah |
| 19:23.08 | Jormungandr | what are you changing? |
| 19:23.24 | Jormungandr | cuz I'm still getting 404. |
| 19:23.46 | Patlabor221 | http://ragnarok.bakadigital.com/ragnarok/BZ/edit/BZE_1.5.9f8_Installer.exe |
| 19:23.52 | Patlabor221 | take out the c |
| 19:25.04 | Jormungandr | bakadigital? |
| 19:26.04 | Patlabor221 | in the ragnarck folder I had |
| 19:26.07 | Patlabor221 | that link there works |
| 19:26.10 | Jormungandr | got it. |
| 19:26.12 | Patlabor221 | I did it myself |
| 19:27.31 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 19:28.01 | Patlabor221 | it shoudl work better now, I had changed all the places where I set base ID but one |
| 19:28.03 | Patlabor221 | the interface part |
| 19:28.11 | Patlabor221 | but that's fixed now |
| 19:28.53 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 19:32.23 | Noodleman | test |
| 19:41.04 | Jormungandr | here's a start... http://www.dragon.org/mandrake/teampeepz.png |
| 19:43.05 | Noodleman | lol |
| 19:45.48 | Patlabor221 | I'd put one one large one in the middle |
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| 19:46.19 | Patlabor221 | and maybe some realy small ones on the rest of the tank |
| 19:46.35 | Jormungandr | I'm looking for a pic of them all lined up to put on the side. |
| 19:46.44 | Jormungandr | I might have to go buy some and take pics. |
| 19:46.53 | Patlabor221 | can you buy them now? |
| 19:46.58 | Jormungandr | dunno |
| 19:47.02 | Jormungandr | I found some links. |
| 19:47.08 | Patlabor221 | thought it was an easter thing |
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| 19:47.38 | Patlabor221 | like my fav sees candy |
| 19:47.46 | Jormungandr | yeah |
| 19:48.28 | Jormungandr | I can find pics, but they are all in the package. |
| 19:48.31 | Jormungandr | need a model of a peep |
| 19:48.47 | Patlabor221 | I Must reember to get an butt load of those candy's that I like this year |
| 19:48.49 | Patlabor221 | stock up |
| 19:48.59 | Patlabor221 | hmmm |
| 19:49.07 | Patlabor221 | it's kinda blob thing. |
| 19:50.10 | Jormungandr | http://damensha.tripod.com/DCC/peeps.htm |
| 19:50.20 | Jormungandr | that's funny. |
| 19:51.21 | Patlabor221 | why would someone make a tutorial on that? |
| 19:51.28 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 19:51.30 | Jormungandr | I wish I knew |
| 19:51.41 | Patlabor221 | that's just bizare |
| 19:52.11 | Patlabor221 | is green base # 2 or 3? |
| 19:52.47 | Jormungandr | not sure. |
| 19:53.05 | Jormungandr | I just change the 0 to 4, so I don't usually keep track :) |
| 19:53.18 | Patlabor221 | crap wonder who knows |
| 19:53.32 | Jormungandr | you can prolly make a map and test. |
| 19:53.36 | Jormungandr | with just bases. |
| 19:53.39 | Patlabor221 | I'll just look at code |
| 19:58.11 | Noodleman | green is 3 |
| 19:58.23 | Noodleman | i think :-) |
| 20:00.39 | Noodleman | i'll be at work soon |
| 20:00.46 | Patlabor221 | I think so too |
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| 20:04.35 | Patlabor221 | there all updated |
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| 20:10.39 | Jormungandr | image updated. :) http://www.dragon.org/mandrake/teampeepz.png |
| 20:10.42 | Jormungandr | this could be fun. |
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| 20:18.43 | Jormungandr | gotta make a good "z" to replace the "s" in the peeps logo. |
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| 20:31.20 | Chestal | hi tank |
| 20:31.25 | tankmann | hoi |
| 20:31.31 | Chestal | hi calico |
| 20:31.34 | calico | hi |
| 20:31.50 | calico | hmm two moles eh |
| 20:32.17 | Chestal | calico: did you play yesterday? |
| 20:32.28 | calico | yes, in both the matches |
| 20:32.36 | calico | unfortunately |
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| 20:32.49 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 20:33.11 | Chestal | I must go get something to eat, later |
| 20:33.50 | calico | bye |
| 20:43.27 | [TeA|TrEE] | teams |
| 20:43.28 | [TeA|TrEE] | around |
| 20:43.55 | [TeA|TrEE] | ? |
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| 21:10.22 | Noodleman | shakespeare |
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| 21:11.19 | Noodleman | shakespeare |
| 21:11.19 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, :Noodleman |
| 21:11.29 | Noodleman | hehe |
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| 21:12.00 | TimRiker | got to run, back later |
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| 21:12.06 | Noodleman | shakespeare |
| 21:12.06 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, Noodleman |
| 21:12.33 | Cell | god im doomed |
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| 21:14.08 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:14.13 | Noodleman | insult doughecka |
| 21:14.13 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, Noodleman |
| 21:14.22 | Noodleman | hehe, gotta fix it |
| 21:14.27 | doughecka | hmm |
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| 21:14.44 | Noodleman | insult doughecka |
| 21:14.45 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, doughecka |
| 21:14.48 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 21:14.56 | doughecka | ~insult Noodleman |
| 21:14.56 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, Noodleman |
| 21:15.01 | doughecka | woo |
| 21:15.13 | doughecka | aww |
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| 21:16.36 | doughecka | insult Noodlebot |
| 21:16.36 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, Noodlebot |
| 21:16.36 | Noodleman | ~insult bzdoug |
| 21:16.37 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, bzdoug |
| 21:16.44 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:17.02 | doughecka | http://www.locustworld.com/meshbox.html |
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| 21:17.50 | Noodleman | ~insult bzdoug |
| 21:17.50 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, bzdoug |
| 21:17.52 | doughecka | insult me |
| 21:17.52 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, me |
| 21:17.52 | Noodlebot | ~shut up |
| 21:17.53 | | you shut up, noodlebot |
| 21:17.58 | Noodlebot | ~shut up |
| 21:17.58 | | you shut up, noodlebot |
| 21:17.59 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:18.01 | Cell | stop that |
| 21:18.04 | Noodlebot | ~shut up |
| 21:18.04 | | you shut up, noodlebot |
| 21:19.08 | Noodleman | sorry |
| 21:20.06 | doughecka | bug? |
| 21:20.06 | doughecka | :P |
| 21:21.01 | Noodleman | yup |
| 21:21.14 | doughecka | bug? |
| 21:21.19 | doughecka | bug? |
| 21:21.29 | doughecka | hmm, a bug. |
| 21:25.31 | Patlabor221 | urp |
| 21:25.43 | doughecka | burp? |
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| 21:26.33 | doughecka | insult me |
| 21:26.34 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, me |
| 21:26.40 | doughecka | ~insult me |
| 21:26.41 | Noodlebot | Thou hast not so much brain as ear wax, me |
| 21:26.42 | Noodlebot | ~shut up |
| 21:26.43 | | you shut up, noodlebot |
| 21:26.50 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:26.52 | Noodleman | kewl :-) |
| 21:27.48 | doughecka | Airport codes: |
| 21:27.48 | doughecka | WIN: Winton Australia |
| 21:27.48 | doughecka | LNX: Smolensk Russia |
| 21:27.48 | doughecka | BSD: Baoshan China |
| 21:27.48 | doughecka | OSX: Kosciusko MS USA |
| 21:27.54 | Noodleman | lol |
| 21:57.26 | doughecka | yay |
| 21:57.35 | Patlabor221 | booo |
| 21:57.39 | doughecka | 4 doller surround sound head phones |
| 21:57.53 | doughecka | sound like 2 dollor ones though :( |
| 22:01.58 | Patlabor221 | did you just add 2 1$ speakers to it? |
| 22:02.23 | doughecka | 2 1 doller earbud pairs |
| 22:02.40 | Patlabor221 | where do the second set go? |
| 22:02.55 | doughecka | one on the front, one on the back |
| 22:03.02 | Patlabor221 | of your ear? |
| 22:03.08 | Patlabor221 | so behind your ear? |
| 22:03.12 | doughecka | 1 doller for some ear protection |
| 22:03.19 | Patlabor221 | seems rather lame |
| 22:03.24 | doughecka | I took the fome out and glued them in |
| 22:03.28 | doughecka | they are |
| 22:05.11 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I think I set my stnadards too high |
| 22:05.23 | Patlabor221 | seems stuff I thing is crap everyone else loves |
| 22:05.29 | doughecka | hmm? |
| 22:05.41 | Patlabor221 | jsut an observation |
| 22:05.47 | doughecka | ah |
| 22:11.15 | Cell | ok i have 37 power point slides fo tomorrow with no pictures, that should work for 1hour 15 min |
| 22:12.30 | [dmp] | wanna play 1on1 cell? |
| 22:13.12 | Cell | [dmp]:play what? |
| 22:13.48 | [dmp] | Take a wild guess |
| 22:13.51 | Patlabor221 | one on one |
| 22:14.04 | Cell | virtua tennis, :):):) |
| 22:14.15 | doughecka | play cell |
| 22:15.23 | Jormungandr | ~bzflist |
| 22:18.46 | Cell | now i gonna take a 5 hour sleep |
| 22:19.27 | Cell | and than i will try to understands whats on my power point slides |
| 22:21.35 | Cell | i hope nobody of my profs or tuts plays bzflag |
| 22:21.55 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:22.03 | Cell | otherwise this could get embarrassing |
| 22:24.53 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 22:25.23 | Cell | because they would thing im an idiot :0 |
| 22:25.33 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 22:25.37 | Patlabor221 | cus you cheat? |
| 22:25.57 | Cell | no, cause i said some awful things here earlier |
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| 22:42.00 | Cell | ~seen su* |
| 22:42.00 | | Cell: i haven't seen 'su*' |
| 22:47.32 | Patlabor221 | ibot does not do wildcard searches |
| 22:47.33 | | Patlabor221: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 22:47.44 | Patlabor221 | ibot stuff it. |
| 22:47.44 | | Patlabor221: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 22:49.34 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 22:49.35 | | KICK doughecka |
| 22:49.45 | fontenot | ? |
| 22:50.24 | Patlabor221 | ~stuff it. |
| 22:50.25 | | Yes my dark master. |
| 22:54.29 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 22:56.12 | DarkPatlabor | it's just easyer this way |
| 23:13.11 | Jormungandr | 2 cats hiding from the thunder. |
| 23:13.19 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 23:13.28 | DarkPatlabor | raining over there? |
| 23:13.34 | DarkPatlabor | must be what we had yesterday |
| 23:13.41 | Noodleman | my cats are braver than that :-) |
| 23:15.47 | Jormungandr | rain is not common in Phoenix |
| 23:15.59 | Jormungandr | we have flash flood warnings coming out across the state. |
| 23:16.01 | Noodleman | yeah, i'm sure :-) |
| 23:16.22 | Noodleman | it's raining here in oriegun too :-) |
| 23:16.24 | Jormungandr | I have 1 fearless cat, because she grew up with thunderstorms. |
| 23:16.46 | Noodleman | i get about 10 inches a year here |
| 23:16.53 | Noodleman | not much |
| 23:17.03 | Jormungandr | we get less than 5 usually. |
| 23:17.08 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 23:17.08 | Jormungandr | last few years a lot less. |
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