| 00:20.14 | *** join/#bzflag captain_proton (~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 00:20.14 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_proton] by calvino.freenode.net |
| 00:37.19 | *** part/#bzflag God-fearer (~vds@5.201.27.24.cfl.rr.com) |
| 00:50.24 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@CPE002078c68203-CM014370004644.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:00.04 | Jormungandr | madhouse day after major server crash at work :( |
| 01:00.40 | Jormungandr | doug, you around? |
| 01:00.50 | [dmp] | i hope i'll never experience that |
| 01:01.36 | Jormungandr | dmp... effected 350+ customers. the big problems today are mysql grant permissions. |
| 01:01.56 | [dmp] | are you working at some sort of hosting company? |
| 01:02.03 | Jormungandr | yeah |
| 01:02.27 | Jormungandr | also perl modules not installed, like SSLeay |
| 01:02.56 | Jormungandr | it's one of 6 major servers, each holding around 300ish people. |
| 01:03.22 | [dmp] | uuh.. Sounds like alot of complains & long hours :-\ |
| 01:03.47 | Jormungandr | fortunately, the place I work for despises overtime. |
| 01:03.53 | Jormungandr | cuz we have a big crew. |
| 01:03.58 | Jormungandr | and 4 desks. |
| 01:05.33 | [dmp] | ah. I've never tried that. (I was working as a developer, making whatever the customer needed changed in our billingsystem.. So only a few was really into the code.. So we had alot of overtime when something didnt work.. |
| 01:06.32 | Jormungandr | system administration is a fun job. |
| 01:06.41 | Jormungandr | the company I work for is a little slimey though. |
| 01:07.01 | Jormungandr | DOUG, WAKE UP! sorry about caps :) |
| 01:07.37 | doughecka | hmm? |
| 01:07.49 | Jormungandr | can you do me a favor? :) |
| 01:08.00 | doughecka | maybe |
| 01:08.01 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:08.03 | Jormungandr | I don't have bzflag client at work. |
| 01:08.16 | Jormungandr | I need to /countdown server, so I can change password. |
| 01:08.23 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:08.31 | Jormungandr | can you do that for me? |
| 01:08.39 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.41 | doughecka | no password? |
| 01:08.51 | Jormungandr | I have to give you password |
| 01:08.59 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:09.00 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:09.12 | Jormungandr | make sure it is counting. |
| 01:09.18 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:09.46 | Jormungandr | let people know that it will be back up after I change password. |
| 01:10.00 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:10.10 | doughecka | I did, but the server dint die... |
| 01:10.10 | Jormungandr | did it work? |
| 01:10.13 | doughecka | let me check again |
| 01:10.15 | Jormungandr | it counts down |
| 01:10.21 | Jormungandr | you should have a running counter |
| 01:10.23 | Jormungandr | for an hour |
| 01:10.54 | Jormungandr | you know how they count down in top of screen? it should be at about 58 minutes. |
| 01:11.10 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:11.13 | Jormungandr | it gives people a warning. |
| 01:11.14 | doughecka | but I dont see any time |
| 01:11.15 | doughecka | :( |
| 01:11.17 | Jormungandr | hrm. |
| 01:11.20 | Jormungandr | crapola |
| 01:11.32 | Jormungandr | hang on. |
| 01:11.32 | doughecka | I can do a /shutdown |
| 01:11.34 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:11.42 | doughecka | and give a warning.. :) |
| 01:12.01 | Jormungandr | about 12 people on? |
| 01:12.08 | doughecka | yea... |
| 01:12.28 | Jormungandr | countdown should work. :( |
| 01:12.32 | Jormungandr | okay... |
| 01:12.34 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:12.41 | Jormungandr | give me aminute to change pass in conf file. |
| 01:12.43 | doughecka | it resets flags though |
| 01:12.44 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:13.20 | Jormungandr | really? ack |
| 01:13.29 | doughecka | yup |
| 01:13.35 | Jormungandr | when you /countdown it reset flags? |
| 01:13.48 | Jormungandr | that's wacked |
| 01:13.53 | doughecka | heheh |
| 01:13.55 | Jormungandr | okay... give warning. |
| 01:13.59 | Jormungandr | and then do it. |
| 01:14.06 | Jormungandr | let me know when it's done and I'll restart |
| 01:14.12 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:15.18 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:15.20 | doughecka | its shutdown |
| 01:15.47 | Jormungandr | back up |
| 01:15.48 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 01:15.49 | Jormungandr | thanks |
| 01:15.54 | doughecka | np |
| 01:16.03 | Jormungandr | if you are interested in password to dragon.org and secretplace, let me know. |
| 01:16.12 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:16.19 | Jormungandr | I need SOMEONE I can trust there. |
| 01:16.22 | Jormungandr | :/ |
| 01:16.25 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:16.35 | doughecka | I can admin, I come on there sometimes |
| 01:16.42 | doughecka | since its MY map |
| 01:16.43 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:16.53 | Jormungandr | already 3 people on. |
| 01:16.59 | doughecka | wow |
| 01:19.02 | Jormungandr | I wish people were more into 2 shot servers. |
| 01:19.06 | Jormungandr | dragon.org rules now. :) |
| 01:19.12 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:19.13 | Jormungandr | some people don't like basement, though. |
| 01:19.24 | doughecka | I like 1 shot no jump servers |
| 01:19.28 | doughecka | monkeyboy had one |
| 01:19.34 | Jormungandr | I'll prolly do a rotating on secretplace |
| 01:19.41 | Jormungandr | just gotta get a list of maps up. |
| 01:19.45 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:20.23 | Jormungandr | I have to restart frequently on secretplace lately, because of some bugs. |
| 01:20.32 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:20.37 | Jormungandr | so a rotating server would help with that. |
| 01:20.47 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:22.12 | Jormungandr | I think I'll start a granny server with max 2 people per team, and no rogues. :) |
| 01:22.20 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:22.34 | Jormungandr | helpful for beginners, too. |
| 01:22.41 | Jormungandr | if they can get on it. |
| 01:23.02 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:23.02 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:23.46 | Jormungandr | I need to figure out how the bzflag ini file works under linux. |
| 01:24.26 | doughecka | ini? |
| 01:24.37 | Jormungandr | dunno what it's called for sure. |
| 01:24.46 | Jormungandr | lets you put email address in configuration, etc. |
| 01:24.53 | doughecka | ah |
| 01:27.34 | Jormungandr | up to 8 users. |
| 01:33.13 | Jormungandr | has there been any bzflag tournaments at all? |
| 01:58.46 | Jormungandr | Doug, have you addressed bug in spirals map when people get stuck in the teleporter? |
| 02:08.52 | *** join/#bzflag BaDiN (Paramount@adslsapo-b3-255-188.telepac.pt) |
| 02:08.56 | BaDiN | yallo |
| 02:09.02 | BaDiN | :) |
| 02:09.21 | BaDiN | okay |
| 02:09.21 | Jormungandr | hi. |
| 02:09.24 | BaDiN | I NEED A TEAM MATE |
| 02:09.51 | BaDiN | my team needs one (or two) more team mates |
| 02:10.43 | Jormungandr | sorry, I have a team :) |
| 02:10.48 | BaDiN | lol |
| 02:10.52 | Jormungandr | we just have to get organized. |
| 02:10.55 | BaDiN | i know |
| 02:11.00 | BaDiN | everybody has a team |
| 02:11.03 | BaDiN | lol |
| 02:11.13 | BaDiN | but... |
| 02:11.51 | BaDiN | i challenge one guy to play against me |
| 02:11.52 | BaDiN | 1on1 |
| 02:11.58 | BaDiN | if he wins me |
| 02:12.02 | BaDiN | he joins bips |
| 02:12.03 | BaDiN | :) |
| 02:12.07 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:12.46 | *** join/#bzflag faz (~faz@M290P014.dipool.highway.telekom.at) |
| 02:36.24 | Jormungandr | hrm. |
| 02:36.46 | Jormungandr | trying bzlist.php |
| 02:43.30 | Jormungandr | it doesn't like me. |
| 02:43.52 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-167-76-123.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 02:44.34 | Jormungandr | hi pat |
| 02:45.10 | Jormungandr | have you used bzlist.php and the bzfquery.pl stuff at all? |
| 02:47.21 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 02:47.28 | Patlabor221 | barely understand php |
| 02:47.31 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:47.32 | Jormungandr | same |
| 02:48.17 | [dmp] | any ducati admins here? |
| 02:48.31 | [dmp] | and tank when [nr] with our flag, making ctf abit unfair |
| 02:49.23 | Jormungandr | sorry dmp, only admin on secretplace and dragon.org |
| 02:49.31 | [dmp] | :-\ |
| 02:49.42 | Jormungandr | wish I could help |
| 02:49.50 | [dmp] | ctf with 2 two and one flag, isnt fair :) |
| 02:50.00 | Patlabor221 | realy need a server side bump to objserver |
| 02:50.03 | Patlabor221 | when they go NR |
| 02:50.08 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 02:50.17 | [dmp] | oh well, i guess its bedtime too |
| 02:50.18 | Jormungandr | need an NR timeout |
| 02:50.25 | Jormungandr | nite |
| 02:50.40 | [dmp] | dosnt death timeout at some point? |
| 02:50.42 | Patlabor221 | that too |
| 02:50.46 | [dmp] | death (the nr player) |
| 02:50.49 | Patlabor221 | but also bump them to obs |
| 02:52.11 | Jormungandr | I've seen NR players not time out for hours |
| 02:52.25 | [dmp] | oh :\ |
| 02:52.50 | [dmp] | well, people will/can use 59999 instead, so the problem isnt that big. Just abit annoying. |
| 02:52.53 | [dmp] | Anyway, goodnight all. |
| 02:56.53 | Jormungandr | well, that's annoying. bzfquery.pl works on one machine but not the other. |
| 02:57.31 | Patlabor221 | ports open? |
| 02:57.52 | Jormungandr | it runs on one, but not the other... I suspect a perl issue. |
| 02:58.21 | Jormungandr | I can query both servers from dragon.org, but it just hangs on secretplace.us/tiphareth.net |
| 02:58.51 | Jormungandr | so, I'll just install the interface on dragon.org and see if it goes. |
| 03:01.05 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 03:01.24 | Jormungandr | one is RH8, this one. and dragon.org is rh 7.3 |
| 03:02.02 | Jormungandr | perl 5.6.1 and perl 5.8.0 |
| 03:03.00 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 03:12.34 | *** join/#bzflag God-fearer (~vds@5.201.27.24.cfl.rr.com) |
| 03:15.25 | *** join/#bzflag eWorf^ (eWorf_@CPE0050fc21e3ab-CM0000397f1a5f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:15.59 | captain_proton | wow, so jzaun was really hacked again? |
| 03:16.08 | Patlabor221 | that's what he says |
| 03:17.43 | Jormungandr | well, got the stats stuff working on bzflag.dragon.org URL |
| 03:20.09 | Jormungandr | so, is hacked boxes par for the course with jzaun? |
| 03:22.52 | Jormungandr | well, at least I can check server stats with my sidekick, now. |
| 03:34.57 | Jormungandr | pat.. you see patch on patches that had /op /deop and /oplist? |
| 03:35.12 | Jormungandr | [ 485706 ] even more admin stuff |
| 03:35.17 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 03:35.32 | Jormungandr | says it's not done, and that he is still working on it. |
| 03:35.36 | Jormungandr | but it's on the list. |
| 03:35.37 | Patlabor221 | didn't allow registration did it? |
| 03:36.05 | Jormungandr | no |
| 03:37.12 | Jormungandr | brb |
| 03:52.21 | Patlabor221 | anything interesting? |
| 03:55.16 | Jormungandr | some basic things that I was looking for, but not quite where I want them. |
| 03:55.20 | Jormungandr | like bzfs logging |
| 03:55.31 | Jormungandr | I still might play with that. |
| 04:00.53 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 04:07.31 | Jormungandr | wow.. looks like we peaked at 1.4 mbps on secretplace |
| 04:07.37 | Jormungandr | earlier today. |
| 04:09.00 | Jormungandr | I had lost my mrtg stats login info, I was worried a bit that I might be going over :) |
| 04:09.46 | Jormungandr | I can average 2mbps without extra charges though, and get charged 50 bucks per avg mbps above my 2. |
| 04:09.59 | Jormungandr | which is excellent pricing. |
| 04:10.41 | Patlabor221 | on a shared machine |
| 04:10.44 | Jormungandr | not bad |
| 04:10.48 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 04:11.00 | Patlabor221 | and any aditional acount is 50 a year |
| 04:11.12 | Jormungandr | I get bulk pricing without having to do bulk. |
| 04:11.27 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 04:11.31 | Jormungandr | and my servers get 300GB/mo xfer |
| 04:11.45 | Jormungandr | which is 1mbps average |
| 04:11.55 | Patlabor221 | that is a rather large amount of data |
| 04:11.56 | Jormungandr | and it aggragates for each server I add. |
| 04:12.16 | Jormungandr | if I have a dns server that does almost no traffic, it adds to my overall amount. |
| 04:12.26 | Jormungandr | so my game server can crank :) |
| 04:12.53 | Patlabor221 | I just use no-ip.coms payed DSN server to host my domain name |
| 04:13.22 | Patlabor221 | 25 a year as many sub domains as I want |
| 04:13.58 | Jormungandr | I have 2 dns servers. one on each box. |
| 04:14.12 | Jormungandr | dns is super easy to do for me. |
| 04:14.24 | Jormungandr | and I am a control freak when it comes to stuff like dns |
| 04:14.25 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure it is, I have no clue how to set one up |
| 04:14.31 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 04:16.48 | Jormungandr | datacenter smells like there is electrical fire. |
| 04:17.03 | Jormungandr | prolly fried motherboard caps |
| 04:20.08 | Jormungandr | acrid enough to taste it |
| 04:25.29 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.172) |
| 04:29.09 | *** join/#bzflag luca_ (~nobody@adsl-153-69.38-151.net24.it) |
| 04:29.11 | luca_ | hello |
| 04:29.21 | luca_ | which is the last version? |
| 04:41.49 | Jormungandr | luca_, the latest version can be found from the download link on www.bzflag.org, or you can get instructions on downloading the CVS, if you want to compile it yourself. |
| 04:43.22 | Jormungandr | well, datacenter electrical burning smell is building-wide, so it's not fried caps. |
| 04:46.37 | luca_ | can i jump an rotate contemporeanly? |
| 04:47.02 | Jormungandr | no. |
| 04:47.08 | luca_ | damn |
| 04:47.14 | Jormungandr | you can start rotation, then jump |
| 04:47.20 | luca_ | ok |
| 04:47.25 | Jormungandr | and you will rotate, but you can't control rotation |
| 04:47.29 | luca_ | is it difficult to implement such a thing? |
| 04:47.30 | Jormungandr | while you are airborne |
| 04:47.51 | Jormungandr | there is a patch, but I haven't played with it. |
| 04:48.22 | luca_ | where is it? |
| 04:49.05 | Jormungandr | there is a "sourceforge" link on www.bzflag.org |
| 04:49.15 | Jormungandr | click that... then look for patch link |
| 04:49.19 | Jormungandr | patches |
| 04:50.07 | luca_ | there's not, i just download the source from the list, but no patches there are |
| 04:50.24 | luca_ | found |
| 04:50.26 | luca_ | :-) |
| 04:50.29 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 04:50.31 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 04:52.00 | luca_ | why? |
| 04:52.30 | Patlabor221 | to change the game, if a server wants to have some percanteage of in air mobility |
| 04:52.42 | Jormungandr | true |
| 04:52.53 | Patlabor221 | and so that others can have a "true" game |
| 04:53.05 | Patlabor221 | and so it dosn't become a cheat |
| 04:53.17 | Patlabor221 | when you do it, everyone has it |
| 04:53.53 | MrApathyCream | on or off is good enough for me |
| 04:54.01 | Jormungandr | hi M_A_C |
| 04:54.30 | Patlabor221 | it's common in other games to let you specifcy it |
| 04:56.13 | MrApathyCream | lo jo |
| 04:56.22 | Jormungandr | workmate is calling around trying to get more people involved in burning datacenter smell. |
| 05:00.14 | Jormungandr | I am surprised no one is having us evacuate. |
| 05:00.37 | Patlabor221 | are they actualy on fire? |
| 05:00.42 | Jormungandr | dunno |
| 05:00.45 | Jormungandr | I odn't think so |
| 05:00.54 | Jormungandr | just very STRONG electrical burning smell |
| 05:01.01 | Jormungandr | stinging eyes and throats. |
| 05:01.05 | Jormungandr | and you can taste it. |
| 05:01.07 | Patlabor221 | ik |
| 05:01.10 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 05:01.26 | Jormungandr | I think it's related to air handling system |
| 05:01.37 | Patlabor221 | your letting out the sacred smoke that makes computers work |
| 05:01.45 | Patlabor221 | they don't work when the smoke comes out. |
| 05:01.50 | Jormungandr | the magic capacitor smoke :) |
| 05:03.51 | Patlabor221 | ohh I've seen all kindsa stuff smoke |
| 05:04.28 | Jormungandr | we just got word to exit buiding for now until it can be checked out. |
| 05:04.29 | Jormungandr | afk |
| 05:04.36 | MrApathyCream | cool |
| 05:06.04 | Patlabor221 | we had one dumbass plug rs232 into his scsi port on his mac |
| 05:06.35 | Patlabor221 | then plug it into a 1.5 million dollar CNC machine |
| 05:12.42 | MrApathyCream | if you fubar, might as well do it up |
| 05:14.29 | Patlabor221 | they actua;ly called and asked if smoke was normal |
| 05:31.57 | *** part/#bzflag luca_ (~nobody@adsl-153-69.38-151.net24.it) |
| 05:40.55 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~3v1ln00dl@216.228.187.32) |
| 05:41.07 | Noodleman | ~seen jzaun |
| 05:41.08 | | jzaun <~jzaun@jzaun.static.telerama.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 6h 29m 47s ago, saying: 'ah well, at least I know I wasn't rooted, I'll work on the rest of it tomarrow'. |
| 06:29.02 | Jormungandr | once again I had to restart because of flags not wroking. |
| 06:55.52 | *** join/#bzflag scanline (~micah@aden2-42-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 07:26.36 | *** join/#bzflag bomber (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 07:26.41 | bomber | moin |
| 07:27.49 | jraitala | good morning |
| 07:32.36 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@64.50.107.228) |
| 07:32.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 07:33.36 | captain_proton | TimRiker: can g2 get out? /me wants to rip apart the protocol |
| 07:34.17 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: :0 |
| 07:36.41 | MrApathyCream | ~spell concious |
| 07:36.43 | | possible spellings for concious: conscious concise noxious concourse convoys cornices conciser conics consciouses consciously concurs concuss councilors Confucius capacious cornice's conceits councils contours conics's conies coccis coercions conchs condos cancerous coincides conceit's conceives council's conses copious tenacious convoy's Conni's Connors Congo's Mencius cocci's conch's condo's condors nuncios |
| 07:36.53 | MrApathyCream | i am still noxious |
| 07:38.44 | TimRiker | captain_proton: I'll be back home tomorrow. how's testing been? If everyone likes it, I'm for releasing g2 pronto. I've got a pending build fix for alpha I'll add in tomorrow. |
| 07:38.45 | MrApathyCream | wow, dialup is REALLY slow |
| 07:38.53 | TimRiker | as in the alpha cpu. ;-) |
| 07:39.25 | MrApathyCream | consulting trip, or pleasure? |
| 07:39.43 | TimRiker | ~fishslap MrApathyCream for being a smart mouth |
| 07:39.44 | | ACTION slaps MrApathyCream up side the head with a wet fish for being a smart mouth |
| 07:39.46 | MrApathyCream | or, maybe metrowerks? |
| 07:40.18 | TimRiker | weekend was interview in dallas. current is a death in the family. up in Ogden. |
| 07:40.36 | MrApathyCream | condolenses.. |
| 07:40.51 | TimRiker | wifes grandmother. she's not been doing well lately, not not entirely unexpected. never easy though. thanx. |
| 07:41.11 | TimRiker | metrowerks? who's that? ;-) |
| 07:41.28 | MrApathyCream | heh, there in austin, anyway, me thinks... ;( |
| 07:41.37 | TimRiker | yep. |
| 07:41.43 | TimRiker | TI actually. |
| 07:42.43 | TimRiker | well, must sleep. cya tomorrow. |
| 07:44.25 | MrApathyCream | so cappy, i hear it's been decided to nix xml for any formats...true? |
| 07:45.44 | captain_proton | who decided that? |
| 07:49.45 | scanline | I can't believe I'm getting interested in analog electronics again |
| 07:54.33 | captain_proton | scanline: its weird |
| 07:54.46 | scanline | Give me op-amps, or give me death! |
| 07:57.44 | Jormungandr | is there a way to cause a person to die as admin (stuck and no self destruct) without killing them? |
| 07:57.53 | captain_proton | Jormungandr: no |
| 07:57.59 | captain_proton | just tell them to do a self-destruct |
| 07:58.04 | Jormungandr | they can't |
| 07:58.24 | Jormungandr | they are stuck in teleport, and their delete key isn't working. |
| 07:59.43 | captain_proton | what version are they on? |
| 08:04.14 | Jormungandr | dunno they quit |
| 08:05.35 | Jormungandr | need an admin smite command. :) |
| 08:05.48 | captain_proton | 'night all |
| 08:05.54 | Jormungandr | nite |
| 08:08.02 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: just another tease to get them to upgrade |
| 08:18.01 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 10:38.42 | *** join/#bzflag Chestal (thilo@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 10:38.42 | *** join/#bzflag scanline (~micah@aden2-42-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 10:38.42 | *** join/#bzflag hardwire (~hardwire@12-252-5-124.client.attbi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 10:38.43 | *** join/#bzflag jacques_gone (~fontenot@westcoast.activebuddy.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 10:38.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by calvino.freenode.net |
| 11:00.05 | *** join/#bzflag rob (rob@TK146136.telekabel.at) |
| 11:16.41 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-112-24.hispeed.ch) |
| 13:42.09 | *** join/#bzflag Secret_Hamster (~piffle@pc2-mfld3-5-cust201.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 14:25.27 | *** join/#bzflag secret_ferret (~piffle@pc2-mfld3-5-cust201.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 14:57.13 | *** join/#bzflag ISFry (~Fry@65.168.86.30) |
| 15:39.07 | *** join/#bzflag snyke (~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de) |
| 15:45.15 | *** join/#bzflag trepan (trepan@CPE0040f42db082-CM00e06f15f704.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 16:03.06 | *** join/#bzflag _paulj (~paulj@itg-gw.cr008.cwt.esat.net) |
| 16:21.06 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E950F8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:21.19 | [TeA|TrEE] | hola |
| 16:21.22 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducati6 |
| 16:21.27 | Noodleman | lo TeA |
| 16:29.17 | jraitala | hello |
| 16:38.49 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~Cell@p50803264.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:38.53 | Cell | la |
| 16:43.07 | Cell | i feel really graet today |
| 16:55.13 | *** join/#bzflag suavegirl (~somewhere@0x50c4919b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) |
| 16:59.00 | *** part/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@aden2-123-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 17:01.59 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E97B12.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:02.05 | lady_oscar | http://www.ladyoscar.com/index.php |
| 17:31.25 | *** join/#bzflag bomber (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 17:31.42 | [dmp] | hi bomber |
| 17:31.54 | bomber | hi |
| 17:33.16 | [dmp] | ah delivery guy is here.. Gotta eat. |
| 17:33.38 | away | damn |
| 17:34.24 | bomber | haha |
| 17:56.03 | Jormungandr | well, it looks like a different map gave dragon.org a shot in the arm. |
| 17:57.46 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:57.49 | doughecka | in a good or bad way? |
| 17:57.53 | Jormungandr | good. |
| 17:58.01 | Jormungandr | I am doing ctf helix |
| 17:58.13 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:01.43 | prot-vidwall | stupid slow operating systems |
| 18:01.58 | doughecka | use NT |
| 18:02.01 | doughecka | its faster |
| 18:02.07 | prot-vidwall | i can't use NT |
| 18:02.13 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:02.16 | prot-vidwall | the display drivers for this are 2k-enterprise only |
| 18:02.17 | Jormungandr | um |
| 18:02.20 | Jormungandr | 2k IS NT |
| 18:02.23 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:02.26 | doughecka | NT 4 |
| 18:02.27 | prot-vidwall | Jormungandr: i think he means NT4 |
| 18:02.30 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 18:02.38 | doughecka | XP? |
| 18:02.46 | prot-vidwall | besides, the NT4 kernel isn't stable enough |
| 18:02.50 | Jormungandr | NT4 is okay if you are using apps that are okay with it. |
| 18:04.18 | *** join/#bzflag ISFry (~Fry@65.168.86.30) |
| 18:04.36 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:04.52 | doughecka | why are you installing 2000 anyway? |
| 18:05.21 | prot-vidwall | because this machine had a security compromise before we took over network support |
| 18:05.25 | prot-vidwall | so i have to reinstall |
| 18:05.29 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:09.09 | prot-vidwall | haha |
| 18:09.15 | doughecka | aha! |
| 18:09.25 | prot-vidwall | this machine has 2 30gb disks on a raid controller but they're not set up as raid |
| 18:09.36 | doughecka | hah |
| 18:29.08 | *** join/#bzflag ISFry (~Fry@65.168.86.30) |
| 18:41.45 | *** join/#bzflag lady_oscar (~Cell@p50803264.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:00.58 | doughecka | Nasrudin called at a large house to collect for charity. The servant said "My master is out." Nasrudin replied, "Tell your master that next time he goes out, he should not leave his face at the window. Someone might steal it." |
| 19:01.25 | jraitala | perhaps I should give up my excuse (lack of time) and join some team |
| 19:01.32 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:09.19 | lady_oscar | I have a q: How many boxes are ideal for a bzflag map? |
| 19:09.37 | doughecka | 50000 |
| 19:09.41 | doughecka | roughly |
| 19:09.43 | doughecka | ;) |
| 19:09.48 | lady_oscar | really that much? |
| 19:09.50 | doughecka | no |
| 19:09.56 | lady_oscar | then |
| 19:09.56 | doughecka | about 500 is the max |
| 19:10.02 | lady_oscar | oh |
| 19:10.09 | doughecka | 1000 is REALLY the max |
| 19:10.13 | doughecka | 500 shouldnt be a problem |
| 19:10.18 | lady_oscar | i need 50 for a palm tree |
| 19:10.21 | doughecka | cool |
| 19:10.37 | lady_oscar | no its not i have 10 palm trees |
| 19:10.51 | doughecka | ~50*10 |
| 19:10.52 | | 500 |
| 19:10.54 | doughecka | I see |
| 19:11.06 | doughecka | what else in the map? |
| 19:11.18 | lady_oscar | tunnels + gates |
| 19:11.22 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:11.41 | doughecka | then about 600 boxes total? |
| 19:11.59 | lady_oscar | yes approximiatly |
| 19:12.07 | doughecka | thats ok |
| 19:12.12 | lady_oscar | juhu |
| 19:12.15 | lady_oscar | :) |
| 19:12.19 | doughecka | I made a map with 5000 squares in it |
| 19:12.25 | lady_oscar | and? |
| 19:12.26 | doughecka | its sorta laggy |
| 19:12.31 | doughecka | 1 FPS |
| 19:12.32 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:12.37 | lady_oscar | oh bad |
| 19:12.50 | doughecka | hehe |
| 19:12.55 | lady_oscar | ho did you do that, manually? |
| 19:13.02 | doughecka | no |
| 19:13.03 | doughecka | a program |
| 19:13.09 | lady_oscar | bzedit |
| 19:13.19 | doughecka | no, PNG2BZW |
| 19:13.26 | doughecka | converts images to maps |
| 19:13.27 | lady_oscar | whats that? |
| 19:13.33 | doughecka | very slow program |
| 19:13.38 | doughecka | doesnt work very wel |
| 19:13.38 | lady_oscar | oh how does that work? |
| 19:13.59 | doughecka | you feed it a greyscale image, and it makes a map out of it |
| 19:14.19 | doughecka | black = ground, white = x (x=max hight |
| 19:14.23 | doughecka | ) |
| 19:14.53 | lady_oscar | but then you dont have boxes flying? |
| 19:15.04 | doughecka | no... |
| 19:15.26 | lady_oscar | its a highfield? |
| 19:15.38 | doughecka | ack, brb |
| 19:15.49 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E97B12.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:15.56 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducati6 |
| 19:16.01 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducati5 |
| 19:16.11 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 19:43.20 | Jormungandr | doug, you around? |
| 19:43.32 | Jormungandr | I think I might have figured out bug with spiral and that teleport |
| 19:46.17 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:46.23 | doughecka | I fixed it |
| 19:46.35 | doughecka | but maybe jzaun dint update the website |
| 19:46.36 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:46.44 | doughecka | is the bug with the super high teleport? |
| 19:46.46 | Jormungandr | the frame is a distance away from the teleport itself. |
| 19:46.47 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 19:46.56 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:47.04 | doughecka | I fixed that, :) just never updated |
| 19:47.15 | Jormungandr | observer mode is fun. |
| 19:47.17 | doughecka | I am gonna update the whole map anyway |
| 19:47.20 | doughecka | heh |
| 19:47.26 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 19:47.43 | Jormungandr | you have URL where I can get updated map? |
| 19:47.45 | doughecka | make it support 1800 units big |
| 19:47.56 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hmm, dunno if I have it :) |
| 19:48.05 | doughecka | I should installl bzedit again anyway |
| 19:48.10 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 19:48.10 | doughecka | let me tweak it |
| 19:48.13 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 19:49.07 | Jormungandr | I still have the broken one :) |
| 19:49.16 | doughecka | heh |
| 19:49.39 | doughecka | bah, could you give it to me? |
| 19:49.43 | doughecka | I dont have it |
| 19:49.43 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:50.28 | doughecka | ~bzedit |
| 19:50.29 | | from memory, bzedit is http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/tarballs/bzedit-2.1.tar.gz on linux http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit for windows |
| 19:50.30 | [TeA|TrEE] | :------) |
| 19:53.15 | doughecka | Jormungandr: you there? |
| 19:53.31 | Jormungandr | yes |
| 19:53.58 | doughecka | did you send me the file? |
| 19:53.58 | Jormungandr | I was watching the match on dragon.org |
| 19:54.01 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:54.13 | Jormungandr | oh... didn't see you wanted it. |
| 19:54.18 | Jormungandr | hang on... |
| 19:54.19 | doughecka | heh |
| 19:54.20 | Jormungandr | you can do dcc? |
| 19:54.32 | doughecka | maybe |
| 19:54.44 | doughecka | try it |
| 19:54.44 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:54.53 | doughecka | I have a firewall, and it sometimes works |
| 19:55.11 | doughecka | bah |
| 19:55.13 | doughecka | nope |
| 19:55.14 | Jormungandr | nope. :) |
| 19:55.15 | Jormungandr | hang on. |
| 19:55.17 | doughecka | I guess not |
| 19:55.18 | doughecka | email? |
| 19:57.43 | Jormungandr | working on it. :) |
| 19:57.55 | doughecka | ;) |
| 19:58.21 | Jormungandr | sent |
| 19:58.26 | doughecka | I am gonna make the update 1800 units wide, so if you change or make a server with a bigger world size, it can use it |
| 19:58.40 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 19:59.01 | doughecka | I got email |
| 19:59.06 | Jormungandr | hray |
| 19:59.24 | Jormungandr | I sent from secretplace.us addy, since I don't use it hardly at all. :) |
| 19:59.40 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:00.20 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:00.23 | doughecka | its really broken |
| 20:00.28 | Jormungandr | my mail program checks it all the time. |
| 20:00.39 | doughecka | there we go |
| 20:00.39 | Jormungandr | but I just created the account and the domain is really new. |
| 20:00.52 | doughecka | heh |
| 20:02.22 | Jormungandr | the domain is for my mom, but I like the domain name, too. |
| 20:02.36 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:02.59 | Jormungandr | giving pop logins to all my family, etc., so they have a stable email address. |
| 20:03.31 | doughecka | hmm, sorta like my domain, exept its not colo, but I have full control over the domain(s) |
| 20:04.36 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 20:04.49 | Jormungandr | I have a handful of domains. |
| 20:04.57 | doughecka | heh |
| 20:05.00 | Jormungandr | dragon.org is the oldest, and it's the one I use the most. |
| 20:05.11 | Jormungandr | tiphareth.net is my business domain. |
| 20:05.12 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:05.31 | doughecka | my dad uses his account to host other peoples domains |
| 20:05.37 | doughecka | and he makes the webpage |
| 20:05.39 | doughecka | and hosts it |
| 20:05.40 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:05.42 | doughecka | and he gets paid |
| 20:05.43 | Jormungandr | sacredcup.org is the domain for my Order. |
| 20:05.44 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 20:05.50 | doughecka | Order? |
| 20:05.52 | Jormungandr | I host some domains for cash. |
| 20:05.58 | Jormungandr | www.sacredcup.org |
| 20:06.14 | Jormungandr | doug musta been asleep that day. |
| 20:06.16 | doughecka | interesting |
| 20:06.19 | doughecka | heh |
| 20:06.40 | Jormungandr | which is why I am not-so-tolerant of bad language. |
| 20:06.45 | Jormungandr | on servers. |
| 20:06.49 | doughecka | heheeh |
| 20:07.38 | Jormungandr | one of the reasons I like the net, and IRC/games... it's the ONE place that people don't call me "venerable father" |
| 20:07.40 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 20:07.47 | doughecka | hehehe |
| 20:08.04 | Jormungandr | who invented that honorary anyway? |
| 20:09.23 | Jormungandr | a lifetime pledged monk is called "venerable", and if you are also a priest, it's "venerable father" and if you are abbot it's "most venerable father" |
| 20:09.32 | doughecka | lol |
| 20:09.35 | Jormungandr | just a little wierd. |
| 20:15.08 | *** join/#bzflag Ruudi (Sach@80-235-69-85-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 20:15.16 | Ruudi | yo |
| 20:21.59 | doughecka | YO! |
| 20:22.14 | *** join/#bzflag arathorn (vsaks@d-zg2-065.globalnet.hr) |
| 20:22.19 | doughecka | YO! |
| 20:22.25 | arathorn | hi all |
| 20:25.19 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com) |
| 20:25.26 | calico | chestal u here |
| 20:25.27 | doughecka | YO! |
| 20:25.42 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hmm, any thing you want added to this map? |
| 20:25.43 | calico | i have a quick question for ya |
| 20:25.45 | Ruudi | what music you listen...all of you? |
| 20:25.53 | doughecka | Ruudi: classical |
| 20:25.57 | calico | led zeppelin |
| 20:26.03 | calico | pink floyd |
| 20:26.09 | calico | grateful dead |
| 20:26.11 | Ruudi | '70 :) |
| 20:26.13 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 20:26.27 | calico | allman brothers band |
| 20:26.55 | calico | yanni |
| 20:26.57 | calico | :) |
| 20:27.02 | Ruudi | doughecka: you like new age composers like reich and pärt and so? |
| 20:27.11 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:27.14 | Ruudi | who's yanni? |
| 20:27.17 | doughecka | I dont know, never listen to them |
| 20:27.22 | doughecka | never HEARD of them.. :) |
| 20:27.25 | Ruudi | hehe |
| 20:27.35 | Ruudi | you know bach more then i guess :) |
| 20:27.53 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:27.53 | doughecka | yea... |
| 20:28.00 | doughecka | and I like movie themes too |
| 20:28.06 | doughecka | some of them are good |
| 20:28.06 | Ruudi | isham? |
| 20:28.21 | doughecka | nope, never heard of him.. |
| 20:28.21 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:28.39 | Ruudi | mark isham does most of hollywood film music i guess :) |
| 20:28.40 | calico | is ducati down? |
| 20:28.50 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:28.51 | lady_oscar | htry to make a new easy to use map definition, where you can reuse parts like gates or pillars or whatever you create, even from others |
| 20:28.55 | lady_oscar | htry to make a new easy to use map definition, where you can reuse parts like gates or pillars or whatever you create, even from others |
| 20:28.59 | doughecka | then I must of heard it |
| 20:29.04 | doughecka | lady_oscar: heh |
| 20:29.13 | calico | ~ducatictf |
| 20:29.42 | lady_oscar | for example the definiton for a level with lots of gates and pyramids could be: |
| 20:29.44 | lady_oscar | map ::= gate*:gates@bigbox box:bigbox@ground pyramid*:pyramids@ground |
| 20:29.44 | lady_oscar | gate ::= gatepillar:gatepillar1@ground box:box4 gatepillar:gatepiller2@ground |
| 20:29.44 | lady_oscar | gatepillar ::= box:box1@ground box:box2@box1 box:box3@box2 pyramid:pyramid1@box3 |
| 20:30.03 | doughecka | as long as it supports that, I would like it |
| 20:30.03 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:30.16 | lady_oscar | oh its textual |
| 20:30.45 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:30.58 | lady_oscar | the key idea is to separate the description of the geometry from positions and other data |
| 20:31.14 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:31.14 | lady_oscar | as that should be applied later |
| 20:32.07 | lady_oscar | and you can say where you wiss to place your entities like boxex and pyramids, by specifieng a locale coordinate sysstem |
| 20:32.19 | doughecka | hjmm |
| 20:32.26 | lady_oscar | if you want to place a box at ground |
| 20:32.49 | lady_oscar | you type: box:abox@ground |
| 20:32.49 | doughecka | yea... |
| 20:32.58 | doughecka | sounds good, for text people |
| 20:33.01 | lady_oscar | abox is the name of the box instance |
| 20:33.08 | doughecka | bbox |
| 20:33.10 | doughecka | cbox |
| 20:33.10 | doughecka | etx |
| 20:33.12 | doughecka | etc |
| 20:33.13 | lady_oscar | yes |
| 20:33.39 | lady_oscar | if you want to put another box on the top of aboy you write box:bboy@abox |
| 20:33.49 | lady_oscar | aboy/abox |
| 20:33.52 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:34.15 | lady_oscar | you can alos make clones |
| 20:34.39 | lady_oscar | as many as you want of each base entity like a box or a compound entity |
| 20:34.42 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:34.50 | doughecka | and grouping too |
| 20:35.05 | lady_oscar | yes, it is a grouping |
| 20:36.37 | lady_oscar | pillar ::= box:b1@ground pyramid:p1@b1 would create a compound pillar entitY that consist of tha base entity box b1 and a pyramyd on its top called p1 |
| 20:37.17 | lady_oscar | you could use pillar now like a basic entity |
| 20:37.27 | lady_oscar | cause its defined |
| 20:38.10 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:38.31 | lady_oscar | its a good idea and i have to create a parser |
| 20:38.41 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:39.33 | lady_oscar | and try to create a tutorial too |
| 20:39.43 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:39.51 | doughecka | better get it coded into bzflag first |
| 20:40.13 | lady_oscar | not necessary the output of the parser is a bzflag map file |
| 20:40.21 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:41.33 | lady_oscar | i hope you all can run java jar files |
| 20:41.55 | doughecka | ICK! |
| 20:41.55 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:41.57 | doughecka | we can |
| 20:42.03 | doughecka | but still ICK! ;) |
| 20:44.58 | doughecka | BAH! |
| 20:45.04 | doughecka | I lost the WHOLE MAP! |
| 20:45.10 | doughecka | GONE! |
| 20:45.12 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 20:45.18 | doughecka | bloody bugs |
| 20:45.20 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E97B12.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:45.30 | [TeA|TrEE] | hu |
| 20:45.32 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 20:45.42 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 20:46.05 | doughecka | bah, worked on it for an hour |
| 20:56.00 | doughecka | Jormungandr: you there? |
| 20:56.05 | doughecka | Jormungandr: I finished the map |
| 20:57.06 | Cell | doughecka: could you give me the map i can render it with max |
| 20:57.15 | doughecka | http://heck.no-ip.com/spiralsdone.map |
| 20:57.23 | Cell | kewl |
| 20:57.24 | doughecka | how do you render it? |
| 20:57.25 | Jormungandr | fanks |
| 20:57.34 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:57.37 | doughecka | its a great map |
| 20:57.40 | doughecka | updated and fixed |
| 20:58.09 | doughecka | Jormungandr: you gonna update it now? |
| 20:58.38 | Cell | i have a scpript that loads it into max, i rendered water decks as an example: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/wdecks.jpg |
| 20:59.23 | doughecka | kewl |
| 21:00.39 | captain_proton | what in the world is worldfield.avi supposed to be? |
| 21:00.59 | Ruudi | dam mozilla got mem usage problems still :( |
| 21:01.42 | Cell | captain_proton: its a test i made to export geometry to my app from 3d max via scripting |
| 21:02.01 | doughecka | Ruudi: heh |
| 21:02.11 | Cell | try to use more general geometry than boxes and pyramids |
| 21:02.33 | captain_proton | Ruudi: yeah - phoenix is a bit nicer when it comes to that |
| 21:02.45 | Ruudi | phoenix? |
| 21:02.57 | Ruudi | i think i have heard :) |
| 21:03.02 | Cell | city of arizona |
| 21:03.06 | Ruudi | mozilla got nice mail client |
| 21:03.28 | Ruudi | arizona sounds nice :) |
| 21:04.38 | captain_proton | Ruudi: phoenix is a gecko-based browser that uses XUL for its UI but they're trying to keep it fast and small |
| 21:04.56 | Ruudi | aha something like galeon in linux? |
| 21:05.07 | captain_proton | sorta kinda |
| 21:05.10 | doughecka | dragon/gecko/internet exploder bah, whats next? |
| 21:05.13 | Ruudi | galeon is nice |
| 21:05.22 | captain_proton | its still XUL & cross platform, whereas galeon is just gecko with GTK packaging |
| 21:05.54 | Ruudi | yes galeon is gtk...anyway mozilla most of times runs ok and 1.2.1 is kind of fast too |
| 21:07.04 | Ruudi | but seems like i need to type that mail again :( |
| 21:13.09 | Jormungandr | phoenix is where I live. |
| 21:13.28 | doughecka | arizona? |
| 21:13.29 | doughecka | ;) |
| 21:13.39 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 21:13.43 | doughecka | you updated the map on the server? |
| 21:13.50 | Jormungandr | just now putting it in place. |
| 21:13.57 | doughecka | ok |
| 21:14.02 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:14.15 | doughecka | you should make your server support 1800 unit maps |
| 21:14.15 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:14.22 | doughecka | or make another server for it |
| 21:14.51 | Jormungandr | something to consider. |
| 21:16.41 | Jormungandr | too many ppl on to switch maps right now. |
| 21:16.49 | Jormungandr | will do it later. |
| 21:17.11 | Jormungandr | I have to go to work :/ |
| 21:18.06 | doughecka | ok |
| 21:18.13 | doughecka | hmm, the map is there? |
| 21:18.23 | doughecka | ok doke |
| 21:46.00 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 21:46.30 | doughecka | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 21:46.35 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 21:48.42 | doughecka | fixed up spirals |
| 21:49.13 | doughecka | when I have objects outside the 400 unit line, will they break anything? or just show up outside the walls? |
| 21:49.25 | captain_proton | just show up outside |
| 21:49.28 | Cell | doughecka: your map has only boxes right? |
| 21:49.31 | doughecka | ok |
| 21:49.35 | doughecka | Cell: and pyramids |
| 21:49.39 | doughecka | and teleports |
| 21:49.43 | doughecka | and links |
| 21:49.44 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:49.52 | doughecka | no bases though |
| 21:50.12 | Cell | where in : http://heck.no-ip.com/spiralsdone.map ? |
| 21:50.15 | doughecka | Cell: try this new version |
| 21:50.19 | Cell | ok |
| 21:50.43 | Patlabor221 | why do you want to put stuff outside the world? |
| 21:50.46 | doughecka | spiralsdone2.map |
| 21:50.49 | Patlabor221 | just to slow down machines? |
| 21:51.07 | doughecka | Patlabor221: to a) make it neat looking and 2) support larger world sizes when they come |
| 21:51.36 | Patlabor221 | your gonna have to tweak the map when largert worlds are there anyway |
| 21:51.43 | Patlabor221 | why not save it till then |
| 21:51.49 | doughecka | 220 objects total |
| 21:51.54 | doughecka | hmm, dunno |
| 21:52.05 | doughecka | but I wanted the effect anyway |
| 21:52.28 | Patlabor221 | I would make your steps wider |
| 21:52.31 | Patlabor221 | easyer to sit on |
| 21:52.40 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:52.56 | Patlabor221 | and realy the spirals outside don't add anything, just make them pillars for now |
| 21:52.57 | doughecka | yea, but I wanted it for looks only really... |
| 21:53.22 | doughecka | I am gonna talk Jormungandr into making a 1800 unit world server |
| 21:53.24 | Patlabor221 | gonna slow down on old machines |
| 21:53.31 | doughecka | just for a few days to test run it |
| 21:53.37 | Patlabor221 | you have to bust proto for that don't you? |
| 21:53.45 | doughecka | no |
| 21:53.52 | doughecka | just change the server code |
| 21:54.02 | doughecka | the clients accept the world size as it is |
| 21:54.06 | doughecka | so no client changes |
| 21:54.08 | Patlabor221 | I should just make it a server side option then |
| 21:54.22 | doughecka | I did it before |
| 21:54.25 | Patlabor221 | but no flags or spawns happen outside of the 400x400 range |
| 21:54.35 | doughecka | yea |
| 21:54.37 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: there's stuff in the world file parser for it, but its not hooked up |
| 21:54.51 | Patlabor221 | yes I see that |
| 21:55.06 | Patlabor221 | it changes the size of the wall objects and they are sent |
| 21:55.39 | Patlabor221 | cap how is the stream of jet coming? |
| 21:56.17 | doughecka | not flat? |
| 21:56.21 | Patlabor221 | not flat |
| 21:56.33 | Patlabor221 | shinny happy surfaces holding hands. |
| 21:56.35 | doughecka | so that would be a fat plane |
| 21:56.49 | Patlabor221 | not flat = curved |
| 21:56.55 | doughecka | ah |
| 21:57.10 | doughecka | todays lesson in Patlabor221's grammer and english |
| 21:57.30 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ok i guess, no real progress recently |
| 21:57.50 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 21:57.59 | doughecka | I can tell |
| 21:58.16 | Patlabor221 | I can teach graphics |
| 21:58.21 | doughecka | heh |
| 21:58.26 | Patlabor221 | and how to use our software |
| 21:58.36 | Patlabor221 | or how to write a post processor |
| 21:58.55 | doughecka | can I get randomly generated buildings AND load a world at the same time? |
| 21:59.02 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 21:59.03 | doughecka | in bzfs? |
| 21:59.04 | doughecka | bah |
| 21:59.20 | Patlabor221 | why would you want to? |
| 21:59.38 | doughecka | make a decks type map with a changing landscape |
| 21:59.45 | doughecka | allways random decks |
| 21:59.53 | Patlabor221 | patch it up |
| 22:00.01 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:00.55 | Patlabor221 | of what type? |
| 22:00.58 | doughecka | win2k3 hardware? |
| 22:01.06 | doughecka | hmm, win2k |
| 22:01.17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: its got 16 graphics heads ;) |
| 22:01.32 | Patlabor221 | heads? vis stuff? |
| 22:01.34 | doughecka | SWEET! |
| 22:01.41 | captain_proton | 2d mostly |
| 22:01.53 | Cell | is there a fast way to remove the comments from bzedit? |
| 22:01.55 | doughecka | a mac? |
| 22:02.00 | Cell | map files? |
| 22:02.04 | doughecka | Cell: grep |
| 22:02.09 | Cell | on win? |
| 22:02.13 | Patlabor221 | bzedit only adds coments for names and group |
| 22:02.16 | doughecka | Cell: sure |
| 22:02.20 | Patlabor221 | and only on save |
| 22:02.28 | doughecka | Cell: ask someone how to remove everyline with # with grep |
| 22:02.41 | Cell | i dont have grep on win 2000 |
| 22:02.49 | Cell | i beleive |
| 22:02.56 | captain_proton | Cell: install it - via cygwin or such |
| 22:02.58 | doughecka | download it |
| 22:03.04 | doughecka | unix utils |
| 22:03.04 | captain_proton | grep -v \# file |
| 22:03.08 | doughecka | I am SURE its in there |
| 22:03.21 | Cell | captain_proton: ok i try it on Solaris |
| 22:03.55 | captain_proton | technically this box is expandable to 52 graphics chips, but the display only has 16 |
| 22:03.56 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 22:04.07 | doughecka | wow |
| 22:04.10 | doughecka | but no 3d? |
| 22:04.18 | doughecka | whats the use then? autocad or something? |
| 22:04.28 | captain_proton | well i could use a 3d thing as a video source |
| 22:04.36 | doughecka | ah |
| 22:04.40 | captain_proton | the point is displaying very LARGE videos |
| 22:05.00 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:05.09 | Cell | grep is cool |
| 22:05.10 | doughecka | as in wide? or can it be stacked too? |
| 22:05.35 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor2211 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 22:05.40 | captain_proton | this display is 4x4 |
| 22:05.43 | doughecka | Cell: word can do the same with the correct scripts |
| 22:05.45 | *** join/#bzflag scanlime (~micah@ec237-53-dhcp.Colorado.EDU) |
| 22:05.48 | doughecka | calico: sweet |
| 22:05.49 | Patlabor2211 | just make your parder take comments CELL |
| 22:05.49 | doughecka | er |
| 22:05.52 | captain_proton | hi scanlime |
| 22:05.53 | Patlabor2211 | parser |
| 22:06.01 | doughecka | captain_proton: sweet |
| 22:06.08 | scanlime | hi captain_proton |
| 22:06.37 | captain_proton | scanlime: any point to hacking something up for tomorrow? |
| 22:06.37 | scanlime | This class was so full today, I got scared.. usually it's only this full when there's a quiz |
| 22:06.44 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:07.04 | scanlime | captain_proton: dunno... I guess neither of us have been terribly motivated toward jetstream the last few weeks? |
| 22:07.14 | scanlime | captain_proton: I could scare them with my pseudo-pong ;) |
| 22:07.25 | Cell | grep did not work |
| 22:07.53 | scanlime | captain_proton: the sensors were working a whole lot better before I mounted it all in the box. Could be conductive ink on the box, or just the extra wire length |
| 22:08.10 | Cell | how can i show a fiel in consoleß |
| 22:08.12 | doughecka | scanlime: whats this? |
| 22:08.13 | captain_proton | scanlime: probably better to wait until you have the real sensors done |
| 22:08.13 | Cell | ? |
| 22:08.16 | Jormungandr | I need a vacation |
| 22:08.19 | scanlime | captain_proton: yeah |
| 22:08.21 | Jormungandr | a REAL vacation |
| 22:08.23 | scanlime | captain_proton: I miss my oscope :( |
| 22:08.31 | doughecka | Jormungandr: did you update the map yet? I have a newer one |
| 22:08.39 | doughecka | Jormungandr: gets rid of SW campers |
| 22:08.40 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:08.56 | doughecka | heck.no-ip.com spiralsdone3.map I think |
| 22:09.11 | Jormungandr | how does it get rid of sw campers? |
| 22:09.17 | doughecka | more teleports |
| 22:09.19 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:09.25 | doughecka | cant camp 4 teleports at once |
| 22:09.43 | Jormungandr | I am at work so won't be able to restart from here without help, and there were a bunch of people on the server. |
| 22:09.50 | doughecka | yea |
| 22:09.54 | Patlabor221 | cell why do you need to get rid of comments? |
| 22:10.04 | captain_proton | hm, the guitar solo at the beginning of this song is so much cooler than the actual song |
| 22:10.10 | doughecka | Jormungandr: http://heck.no-ip.com/spiralsdone3.map |
| 22:10.14 | Jormungandr | 17 people on right now. |
| 22:10.19 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hmm, yea... |
| 22:10.19 | Jormungandr | okie... |
| 22:10.26 | Cell | Patlabor221: my max script loader cannot deal with comments |
| 22:10.37 | captain_proton | http://bzflag.net:3000/music/Les_Negresses_Vertes/rapablas_les_roubliblis_la.mp3 |
| 22:10.38 | doughecka | Jormungandr: but let me test my map before you reboot the server... |
| 22:10.38 | Cell | it crashes on them |
| 22:10.39 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:10.45 | Patlabor221 | cell, why don't you make it just skip them, most maps have comments. |
| 22:10.59 | Patlabor221 | that would be easyer then removing them. |
| 22:11.00 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 22:11.13 | doughecka | l.a.z.y. |
| 22:11.13 | Jormungandr | helix is a really popular CTF map. |
| 22:11.14 | doughecka | ;) |
| 22:11.17 | Cell | Patlabor221: its diff to deal with max script input output |
| 22:11.18 | doughecka | Jormungandr: indeed |
| 22:11.31 | Jormungandr | dragon.org has been going all day |
| 22:11.47 | doughecka | Jormungandr: heh |
| 22:11.51 | Patlabor221 | cell, just takes a bit of work, I can't beilve it's that hard to skip comments, OBJ files have comments. |
| 22:12.33 | Cell | yes but max script has only one function for reading data called readvalue |
| 22:12.38 | captain_proton | hm, been a while since i listened to this mortal coil |
| 22:12.38 | doughecka | Jormungandr: server is full now... :) |
| 22:12.43 | Patlabor221 | cell, so fix it. |
| 22:12.51 | Jormungandr | wow |
| 22:13.20 | Jormungandr | I finally announced servers on the forums. |
| 22:13.44 | Cell | how do i exit vi editor? |
| 22:13.56 | scanlime | CTRL-ALT-DELETE |
| 22:14.00 | Cell | thanks |
| 22:14.23 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hmm? |
| 22:14.40 | Cell | scanlime: you sure? |
| 22:14.45 | scanlime | Cell: yes |
| 22:14.47 | doughecka | scanlime: thats for windows... linux its that button on the front of the PC... |
| 22:14.58 | captain_proton | scanlime: hehehehe |
| 22:15.07 | captain_proton | Cell: :q |
| 22:15.10 | Jormungandr | there is a servre forum on the forums |
| 22:15.12 | scanlime | doughecka: no, that's the button that exits Flash. For vi it's always ctrl-alt-delete |
| 22:15.12 | Jormungandr | server |
| 22:15.16 | Cell | ah yes tha was it, thanks |
| 22:15.21 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hmm, a bug in my map |
| 22:15.22 | Jormungandr | and they sticky the server announces |
| 22:15.24 | doughecka | scanlime: oooooh |
| 22:15.26 | Jormungandr | ahheh |
| 22:15.31 | Jormungandr | what is the bug? |
| 22:15.50 | Jormungandr | doug... do a CTF version of your map :) |
| 22:15.57 | doughecka | Jormungandr: the end of the platform is too short, fall off when going through the teleport |
| 22:16.01 | doughecka | Jormungandr: thats next |
| 22:16.03 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 22:16.05 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 22:16.20 | doughecka | Jormungandr: when you get a 1800 unit world server |
| 22:16.24 | doughecka | Jormungandr: :) |
| 22:16.33 | Jormungandr | how do you do bzserver list? |
| 22:16.36 | Jormungandr | with ibot |
| 22:16.40 | doughecka | ~bzflist |
| 22:16.48 | Jormungandr | wow |
| 22:16.49 | doughecka | woo, 19 players |
| 22:17.03 | Jormungandr | I've got 2 servers in the top 3 :) |
| 22:17.17 | doughecka | ~secretplace is <reply> see bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5155 |
| 22:17.17 | | okay, doughecka |
| 22:17.21 | doughecka | ~secretplace |
| 22:17.30 | Jormungandr | wow |
| 22:17.46 | Jormungandr | should put dragon in there, too |
| 22:17.49 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 22:18.02 | Cell | puh everything on Solaris is so crazy strain |
| 22:18.08 | doughecka | ~dragon is <reply> see bzfquery dragon.org:5155 |
| 22:18.09 | | ...but dragon is already something else... |
| 22:18.12 | doughecka | bah |
| 22:18.18 | doughecka | silly people and there dragons |
| 22:18.19 | Jormungandr | you can do dragon.org |
| 22:18.25 | Chestal | ~dragon |
| 22:18.26 | | bzfquery dragon.org:5155 |
| 22:18.26 | doughecka | ~dragon.org is <reply> see bzfquery dragon.org:5155 |
| 22:18.27 | | okay, doughecka |
| 22:18.30 | doughecka | oh |
| 22:18.34 | Jormungandr | my real last name means "man dragon" |
| 22:18.35 | Chestal | ehm |
| 22:18.36 | doughecka | ~forget dragon |
| 22:18.36 | | i forgot dragon, doughecka |
| 22:18.37 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 22:18.40 | doughecka | ~dragon is <reply> see bzfquery dragon.org:5155 |
| 22:18.41 | | doughecka: okay |
| 22:18.48 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:18.55 | doughecka | ~dragon |
| 22:19.10 | doughecka | TAAADAAAH! |
| 22:19.14 | Jormungandr | thanks |
| 22:19.31 | Jormungandr | I thought that if I put up helix, it'd perk up dragon.org |
| 22:19.51 | Jormungandr | is helix2 available and is that flag bug fixed? |
| 22:20.05 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:20.06 | doughecka | dunno |
| 22:20.33 | Jormungandr | helix is a fun map... very easy to capture flags if you can jump :) |
| 22:20.53 | doughecka | hehe |
| 22:21.55 | Jormungandr | need a command like m and n that sends to nobody, but takes admin /commands |
| 22:22.09 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:22.13 | doughecka | yea, that would be nice |
| 22:22.27 | doughecka | did you fix that countdown thing? |
| 22:22.30 | Jormungandr | I happened to forget / when doing password to team. |
| 22:22.36 | Jormungandr | dunno what was wrong with it. |
| 22:22.49 | Jormungandr | have to play with it when server is empty |
| 22:23.05 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:23.08 | doughecka | hah |
| 22:23.17 | doughecka | good luck when its "empty" |
| 22:23.18 | Jormungandr | hey, it might happen |
| 22:23.39 | doughecka | 4:00 in the morning and people are playing on it |
| 22:23.40 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 22:23.43 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:23.44 | Jormungandr | yeah |
| 22:24.10 | Jormungandr | it's a popular international server cuz the europeans can get on and it's fast enough. |
| 22:24.19 | doughecka | ah |
| 22:24.37 | Jormungandr | some us servers on cable modems are a little laggy for already lagged europeans. |
| 22:24.50 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:24.56 | doughecka | cable modems only have 12 kbs up |
| 22:24.59 | Jormungandr | I found a map that I really like |
| 22:25.05 | doughecka | hmm? |
| 22:25.08 | doughecka | what map |
| 22:25.09 | Jormungandr | dunno if it's public though |
| 22:25.21 | doughecka | dont matter |
| 22:25.23 | Jormungandr | it has a series of tubes and one drops you into this round thing. |
| 22:25.32 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:25.36 | doughecka | never seen that one |
| 22:25.39 | Jormungandr | has teleport wall between sides |
| 22:26.04 | Jormungandr | and in center of round thing is a 4 sided teleport that is one way to all sorts of other teleports |
| 22:26.30 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:26.33 | doughecka | ooh |
| 22:26.36 | doughecka | I think I know it |
| 22:26.39 | doughecka | thats pretty fun |
| 22:26.42 | Jormungandr | it is |
| 22:26.42 | doughecka | was on jzaun for awhile |
| 22:26.53 | Jormungandr | it was up last night from somewhere. |
| 22:27.02 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:28.41 | doughecka | http://heck.no-ip.com/spirals.JPG |
| 22:28.44 | doughecka | the NEW map |
| 22:29.41 | doughecka | http://heck.no-ip.com/spiralsdone4.map |
| 22:29.44 | doughecka | Jormungandr: its done |
| 22:29.49 | doughecka | Jormungandr: thats the last one |
| 22:30.05 | Jormungandr | okie. :) |
| 22:30.30 | Jormungandr | wow.. you went wacky |
| 22:30.31 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 22:30.39 | Jormungandr | how do you adjust server to do large maps? |
| 22:31.23 | doughecka | code |
| 22:31.25 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:31.27 | doughecka | a small edit |
| 22:31.30 | doughecka | let me check |
| 22:31.30 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 22:31.35 | doughecka | its in global.h |
| 22:31.39 | Jormungandr | can you find reference and email it to me? |
| 22:31.41 | doughecka | worldsize something |
| 22:31.44 | doughecka | yea |
| 22:31.44 | Jormungandr | then I'll do the change. |
| 22:31.47 | doughecka | same email? |
| 22:31.55 | Jormungandr | use mandrake@dragon.org |
| 22:31.59 | doughecka | k |
| 22:32.02 | Jormungandr | I get that whereever I am at. |
| 22:32.09 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:32.17 | *** part/#bzflag ISFry (~Fry@65.168.86.30) |
| 22:32.28 | doughecka | one bug though |
| 22:32.39 | doughecka | the textures get streched |
| 22:32.45 | doughecka | on the ground in bzflag |
| 22:32.50 | doughecka | but thats not really too bad |
| 22:33.11 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 22:33.32 | doughecka | aha |
| 22:33.35 | doughecka | here it is |
| 22:33.42 | doughecka | BZFLAG2\INCLUDE\global.h |
| 22:33.49 | doughecka | const float WorldSize = 800.0f; // meters |
| 22:34.00 | doughecka | change to 1800 |
| 22:34.01 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:34.10 | Jormungandr | email :) |
| 22:34.14 | Jormungandr | then I have it for later. |
| 22:34.15 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:34.21 | doughecka | worse than cap ;) |
| 22:34.27 | Jormungandr | at work with dog and pony show |
| 22:34.34 | Patlabor221 | jorm, don't do it man, I'm gonna make it a command line |
| 22:34.39 | doughecka | Patlabor221: when? |
| 22:34.40 | Jormungandr | ? |
| 22:34.45 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hehe |
| 22:34.46 | Patlabor221 | with the admin update |
| 22:34.49 | Jormungandr | command like and conf file :) |
| 22:34.56 | Jormungandr | how is it going, pat? |
| 22:35.18 | doughecka | Patlabor221: whens that coming? :) |
| 22:35.22 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah MAC made it so that the same code that reads the command lines, read the config file too. |
| 22:35.30 | doughecka | cool |
| 22:35.33 | Patlabor221 | so I add it once and it goes in both. |
| 22:35.36 | Patlabor221 | I'm workin on it. |
| 22:35.42 | Jormungandr | I can do it as a temp, pat, if I want to, then add your stuff later. |
| 22:35.46 | Jormungandr | if I wanna use this map. |
| 22:36.01 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~somewhere@0x50c4919b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) |
| 22:36.01 | doughecka | email sent |
| 22:36.07 | Patlabor221 | note tho that changing that will not make anything spawn outside the normal 400x400 range |
| 22:36.19 | Patlabor221 | it jsut makes the walls larger |
| 22:36.30 | Jormungandr | hrm |
| 22:36.37 | Patlabor221 | it's not a real solution |
| 22:36.41 | doughecka | but normal clients should work, but I wuld start a 3rd server first to make sure |
| 22:36.53 | Patlabor221 | yes it is compatable |
| 22:37.09 | Patlabor221 | doug,then you will pay for his extra bandwith? |
| 22:37.34 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:37.39 | doughecka | just temporary |
| 22:37.56 | doughecka | wont even make a splash in his 100mbs connection |
| 22:37.59 | Patlabor221 | ok, so you will temporaraly pay for his extra bandwith. |
| 22:38.03 | doughecka | a ripple maybe... |
| 22:38.08 | Patlabor221 | doug, he pays for those megs |
| 22:38.08 | Jormungandr | I'll play around with it before hand. just make one that is regular sized that is fixed. :) |
| 22:38.31 | doughecka | Jormungandr: the things outside the walls wont harm the normal servers |
| 22:38.39 | Jormungandr | I get a good deal on bandwidth. |
| 22:38.43 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 22:38.45 | doughecka | Jormungandr: just people cant get out there... so its there for looks for now |
| 22:38.48 | Patlabor221 | they will jsut slow down machines |
| 22:38.49 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 22:38.50 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:39.23 | Cell | doughecka: have rendered the map with 3d max: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/spdone.jpg |
| 22:39.35 | doughecka | wow, neato |
| 22:39.50 | Cell | using bzedit's textures |
| 22:40.11 | doughecka | hmm, thats not mine bzedits textures |
| 22:40.19 | doughecka | but I like the sand color |
| 22:40.31 | Cell | you use your own textures? |
| 22:40.32 | doughecka | maybe we could get maps with uploadable textures? |
| 22:40.42 | doughecka | Cell: no... the standard textures |
| 22:40.49 | Cell | can you give them to me? |
| 22:41.01 | doughecka | Cell: yah |
| 22:41.06 | Cell | kewl |
| 22:41.09 | Jormungandr | I should put up a donation page :) |
| 22:41.13 | doughecka | just download bzflag again... |
| 22:41.26 | doughecka | doughecka: and install and the textures are in there |
| 22:41.26 | Cell | why? |
| 22:41.30 | Jormungandr | ~secretplace |
| 22:41.40 | *** join/#bzflag paul ([Snm8WiMCa@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 22:41.48 | Cell | but the .rgb textures, i cannot read them all |
| 22:41.58 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:42.09 | doughecka | dunno... |
| 22:42.25 | Cell | does bzedit read them? |
| 22:42.40 | doughecka | I guess, let me check |
| 22:42.48 | Jormungandr | ~dragon |
| 22:42.56 | doughecka | no |
| 22:43.01 | Jormungandr | looks like people got tired of CTF |
| 22:43.12 | doughecka | it uses .tga, not RGB |
| 22:43.17 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hah |
| 22:43.27 | Cell | who wants to have his map prerendered in 3d :) ? |
| 22:43.38 | Cell | just give it to me |
| 22:43.49 | doughecka | Cell: lol, how fast does it take to convert and render it? |
| 22:44.02 | Cell | one grep then 30 sec |
| 22:44.07 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:44.14 | Cell | 35 sec |
| 22:44.22 | doughecka | http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/grep.html |
| 22:44.27 | doughecka | grep for windows |
| 22:45.05 | Cell | same as the unix ? |
| 22:45.06 | doughecka | jzaun should have the option to upload a image for maps |
| 22:45.09 | doughecka | yup |
| 22:45.17 | doughecka | just compiled for windows |
| 22:45.24 | Cell | ok, nice |
| 22:45.32 | Jormungandr | when is stats going to be back up? |
| 22:45.49 | doughecka | Jormungandr: when he finds his securety hole |
| 22:45.52 | doughecka | Jormungandr: heh |
| 22:46.01 | Jormungandr | sad to say, I don't think any upload option is a good idea for that server. |
| 22:46.09 | doughecka | Jormungandr: heh |
| 22:46.23 | doughecka | Jormungandr: hmmmmm, thats a good point, maybe thats how it got hecked |
| 22:46.25 | doughecka | hacked |
| 22:46.35 | Jormungandr | might be |
| 22:48.19 | doughecka | hmmm, I bet thats how... maybe he should have a email based system where the map gets emailed in with the settings all setup, and it would check to see if the map was OK, then pop it into the list |
| 22:48.46 | doughecka | LOL |
| 22:48.57 | doughecka | captain_proton has PDQ bach on his computer |
| 22:49.27 | doughecka | a_little_nightmare_music_opera_in_one_irrevocable_act |
| 22:49.42 | doughecka | grand_serenade_for_an_awful_lot_of_winds_and_percussion |
| 23:03.13 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (~d8b24432@203.194.240.139) |
| 23:03.20 | *** join/#bzflag ltdsbrother (~d80881bc@203.194.240.139) |
| 23:03.25 | doughecka | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 23:03.32 | doughecka | 'lo ltdsbrother |
| 23:03.36 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 23:04.02 | Chestal | hi MAC |
| 23:04.06 | Chestal | where's TIm hiding now? |
| 23:04.12 | Chestal | last ngiht I saw some talk of release |
| 23:04.17 | MrApathyCream | dunno |
| 23:04.22 | Chestal | have ben tryign to talk to him for 1.5 weeks now |
| 23:04.24 | doughecka | ~seen timriker |
| 23:04.26 | | timriker <timr@64.50.107.228> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 15h 21m 43s ago, saying: 'well, must sleep. cya tomorrow.'. |
| 23:04.30 | Chestal | about the open issues |
| 23:04.35 | MrApathyCream | he said he'll be here |
| 23:04.36 | Chestal | oh well, I'moff for today |
| 23:04.41 | MrApathyCream | l8r |
| 23:04.44 | doughecka | cya |
| 23:04.58 | ltdsbrother | bye |
| 23:05.04 | Chestal | if you meet him, say there are a couple points (including flag toggle in 3D, target box in roaming, countdown etc.) |
| 23:05.14 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:05.24 | MrApathyCream | you can send a memoserv message if you like |
| 23:05.26 | ltdsbrother | is there a bzcop here |
| 23:05.33 | doughecka | yah |
| 23:05.38 | ltdsbrother | who |
| 23:05.46 | doughecka | me |
| 23:05.50 | ltdsbrother | ok |
| 23:05.53 | Chestal | I hope not |
| 23:06.07 | doughecka | but I might not know the password for the server you want |
| 23:06.09 | MrApathyCream | strange but true |
| 23:06.12 | Chestal | memo's are a mess IMHO |
| 23:06.17 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:06.21 | Chestal | foregt that "'" |
| 23:06.35 | MrApathyCream | i foregt'ed it |
| 23:06.49 | doughecka | I foregt'ed it too |
| 23:07.04 | MrApathyCream | an interesting happenstance on xmission last nite |
| 23:07.13 | MrApathyCream | flag showed up on the hud, but definitely NOT on radar |
| 23:07.19 | doughecka | hah |
| 23:07.21 | Patlabor221 | is he gonna pull the pyrmaid thing? |
| 23:07.24 | Chestal | you probablyh pressed 'h' |
| 23:07.29 | Chestal | or was it only one flag? |
| 23:07.37 | MrApathyCream | Chestal, no, there were plenty of flags on radar |
| 23:07.44 | Chestal | then it's an acient bug which actually was fixed a logn time ago |
| 23:07.49 | Chestal | but maybe there's another trigger for that bug |
| 23:08.03 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: *shrug* |
| 23:08.18 | Chestal | yes, pyramids are anotehr important issue |
| 23:08.21 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: remember what the old one's case was? |
| 23:08.34 | doughecka | ~news |
| 23:08.35 | MrApathyCream | ibot, time? |
| 23:08.37 | | rumour has it, time is up! |
| 23:08.45 | MrApathyCream | ~time |
| 23:08.46 | | time is, like, relative |
| 23:08.51 | MrApathyCream | arg |
| 23:08.54 | Chestal | MAC: no, I only remember that it was extremly hard to debug, took me weeks of logging |
| 23:09.04 | MrApathyCream | oh goody |
| 23:09.10 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: can i interest you in a bit on the decks? |
| 23:09.22 | MrApathyCream | nah, i've got class in a few minutes |
| 23:09.26 | Chestal | MAC: should be in the bug database somewhere |
| 23:09.33 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: haha |
| 23:09.33 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: k |
| 23:09.42 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: ? |
| 23:09.49 | doughecka | CLASS?!?!!? |
| 23:09.49 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: class? |
| 23:10.11 | doughecka | MrApathyCream: hmm |
| 23:10.17 | *** join/#bzflag faz (~faz@M291P001.dipool.highway.telekom.at) |
| 23:10.28 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:11.00 | Jormungandr | ~secretplace |
| 23:11.30 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you're not serious? |
| 23:11.35 | Jormungandr | wow.. vicious is back on |
| 23:11.38 | Jormungandr | cool. |
| 23:11.50 | MrApathyCream | do you know me to kid? |
| 23:12.04 | Jormungandr | no |
| 23:12.05 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: uh, yeah |
| 23:12.54 | Jormungandr | vicious == shkoo, who wrote a lot of the tinyMUSE code. we used to work together. he works for company that I colo with. |
| 23:12.56 | doughecka | jzaun.com is BACK up |
| 23:13.24 | doughecka | captain_proton: is all your PDQ bach songs cut off? |
| 23:13.40 | captain_proton | doughecka: ? |
| 23:13.52 | doughecka | captain_proton: on your web page |
| 23:15.03 | doughecka | hmm, so people, LT.D wasnt the cheater, it was his brother... shall we make him a bzcop again? |
| 23:15.27 | ltdsbrother | please |
| 23:16.17 | doughecka | ehm, anyone else want to say yes, technically a bzcop needs 2 people to refer him in... :) |
| 23:16.35 | doughecka | if anyone doesnt have any objectins |
| 23:16.58 | Patlabor221 | doug what is the procedure for adding a cop? |
| 23:17.19 | doughecka | clicking add bzcop and enter the name in |
| 23:17.19 | Patlabor221 | you should not sidestep the rules |
| 23:17.26 | doughecka | I aint |
| 23:17.30 | Patlabor221 | you should ask other cops |
| 23:17.34 | Patlabor221 | and the TRAIN HIM. |
| 23:17.46 | doughecka | thats what I am doing |
| 23:17.52 | doughecka | asking other bzcops |
| 23:18.00 | Patlabor221 | are they here? |
| 23:18.13 | ltdsbrother | come on plaese guys |
| 23:18.19 | ltdsbrother | please* |
| 23:18.28 | *** join/#bzflag M_A_C (~d8b24432@203.194.240.139) |
| 23:18.32 | Patlabor221 | it's not up to us |
| 23:18.44 | Patlabor221 | it's up to the cops |
| 23:18.46 | doughecka | I suppose there isnt a bzcop here |
| 23:18.52 | doughecka | I am looking for a bzcop |
| 23:18.56 | Patlabor221 | they have there rule |
| 23:18.57 | captain_proton | M_A_C: decks? pweeze? |
| 23:19.07 | MrApathyCream | can't, class in 15 mins |
| 23:19.17 | doughecka | MrApathyCream: explain class |
| 23:19.20 | doughecka | you teaching? |
| 23:19.27 | MrApathyCream | see above |
| 23:19.53 | doughecka | hacking class? |
| 23:19.55 | doughecka | :P |
| 23:19.59 | MrApathyCream | i never joke |
| 23:20.06 | MrApathyCream | i'm a serious guy |
| 23:20.11 | MrApathyCream | sheesh, |
| 23:20.16 | doughecka | 73@c|^0R... |
| 23:20.17 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:20.19 | Jormungandr | ~bzflist |
| 23:20.39 | ltdsbrother | come on i begganing on my knees |
| 23:20.48 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: go here |
| 23:20.48 | captain_proton | begganing? |
| 23:20.50 | MrApathyCream | http://webadvisor.mc3.edu/servlet/com.datatel.server.servlets.webadvisor.WebAdvisor?MENU=ap&MNEMONIC=WSEI&APPLICATION=ST&USERID=guest&PASSWORD=*& |
| 23:20.52 | doughecka | ~spell begganing |
| 23:20.58 | | possible spellings for begganing: beggaring beginning beaning begging bargaining bemoaning beaconing beckoning baning beagling burgeoning regaining |
| 23:20.58 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you've found a friend! |
| 23:21.00 | MrApathyCream | enter spring 2003, CIS 221 |
| 23:21.10 | doughecka | MrApathyCream: interesting |
| 23:21.16 | MrApathyCream | i no lie |
| 23:21.22 | Patlabor221 | dude like I said, beging isn't anything that can help, you must take it up with the cops, I'd talk to Jzuan, but he is not here |
| 23:21.23 | MrApathyCream | me serious fella |
| 23:21.40 | MrApathyCream | also CIS 227 |
| 23:21.46 | captain_proton | wow |
| 23:21.55 | Patlabor221 | the cops are not an "ofical" orginisation, it's just something some users hacked together. |
| 23:22.00 | MrApathyCream | or maybe it's another dbrosius? |
| 23:22.03 | MrApathyCream | dunno |
| 23:22.38 | MrApathyCream | well, off to .... class, yes, that's it.... see ya later |
| 23:23.02 | *** join/#bzflag gonk{work} (~Pineapple@ivan.client.mscd.edu) |
| 23:24.39 | doughecka | captain_proton: ! you deleted the songs! bah |
| 23:26.49 | captain_proton | no i didnt' |
| 23:27.04 | doughecka | hmm? |
| 23:27.25 | doughecka | the server is gone |
| 23:27.27 | doughecka | odd |
| 23:27.43 | Patlabor221 | did you anger it? |
| 23:27.46 | doughecka | you removed the whole music folder |
| 23:28.07 | Patlabor221 | doug, do the cops have a message board somewhere? |
| 23:28.16 | doughecka | heh, not really |
| 23:28.30 | doughecka | they seem to be using the news server for a forum |
| 23:28.38 | Patlabor221 | then perhaps you should ask fiber to make a cops section on bzBB |
| 23:28.44 | Patlabor221 | a public one, and a private one. |
| 23:28.49 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:29.05 | Patlabor221 | so that everyone knows where to go for cop issues |
| 23:29.24 | ltdsbrother | put i was the one who cheated not LT.D |
| 23:29.25 | Patlabor221 | you guys realy need to be more orginised. |
| 23:29.27 | captain_proton | doughecka: i just switched it to a rotating symlink |
| 23:30.06 | doughecka | whats that mean? |
| 23:30.19 | captain_proton | it means you have to guess two bytes |
| 23:30.25 | doughecka | uh huh |
| 23:30.25 | Patlabor221 | symlink is like a shortcut |
| 23:30.28 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:30.35 | doughecka | but rotating? |
| 23:30.45 | Patlabor221 | it points to his current song. |
| 23:30.52 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:31.04 | doughecka | I was almost done downloading... :) |
| 23:32.46 | captain_proton | hm |
| 23:32.47 | captain_proton | too bad |
| 23:33.22 | doughecka | wow, you would be great for technical support |
| 23:33.30 | doughecka | thats what they say too |
| 23:33.40 | captain_proton | actually thats pretty much my job |
| 23:33.42 | captain_proton | but you don't pay me |
| 23:33.43 | Patlabor221 | what would he be trying to support? |
| 23:33.44 | captain_proton | so you don't get it |
| 23:33.52 | doughecka | heheh |
| 23:34.10 | Patlabor221 | <doug> " Hi I'm trying to leech crap off your machine, and it stoped" |
| 23:34.16 | Patlabor221 | <cap> "sooo?" |
| 23:35.09 | doughecka | huh |
| 23:37.46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yep |
| 23:39.59 | Patlabor221 | whoot, eq added pet bombs :) |
| 23:40.07 | captain_proton | pet bombs? |
| 23:40.13 | Patlabor221 | Frenzied Burnout: (1 skill level – cost 6 skill points) – This ability give the Magician the power to drive their pet to extreme aggressiveness, so much so that the pet will literally explode after a short time at such a frenzied pace. The explosion will cause damage to anyone near. The forceful expulsion of the elemental pet will disrupt magic in the area as well. The Refresh Timer for this ability is 72 minutes (one day of game time). |
| 23:40.24 | Patlabor221 | as a mage I get elemental "pets" |
| 23:40.27 | Patlabor221 | who fight for me |
| 23:40.42 | Patlabor221 | with this I can make them go frenzy then explode. |
| 23:41.38 | Patlabor221 | aka pet bomb |
| 23:41.45 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:41.54 | ltdsbrother | k |
| 23:42.04 | doughecka | k |
| 23:42.04 | doughecka | ? |
| 23:42.05 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:42.16 | doughecka | kkk *GASP* |
| 23:42.31 | Patlabor221 | represed hatred doug? |
| 23:42.34 | ltdsbrother | well thx for all/any help that you may provid for me |
| 23:42.37 | Patlabor221 | that was af un game |
| 23:42.50 | ltdsbrother | cya later |
| 23:42.55 | Patlabor221 | ltd, i would send mail to jzuan at stats |
| 23:43.02 | captain_proton | gimme some pisTACHio nuts! |
| 23:43.02 | *** join/#bzflag qaz (~d80881bc@203.194.240.139) |
| 23:43.16 | ltdsbrother | bye |
| 23:43.30 | ltdsbrother | i tell my brother |
| 23:43.40 | ltdsbrother | bye |
| 23:43.52 | Patlabor221 | bye |
| 23:47.03 | Jormungandr | hrm |
| 23:47.22 | Jormungandr | either my bandwidth graph is broken, or bzfs used a LOT less bandwidth today. |
| 23:47.28 | Jormungandr | with MORE people on it. |
| 23:47.36 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:47.52 | Jormungandr | yesterday I peaked at 1.4 mb. |
| 23:48.03 | Jormungandr | today I peaked at 800ish |
| 23:48.03 | doughecka | total? |
| 23:48.07 | Jormungandr | peak |
| 23:48.12 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:48.51 | Jormungandr | my 24 hr average is still only 383 in and 49 out |
| 23:48.54 | Jormungandr | mbps |
| 23:49.16 | Jormungandr | it's cool to see how bzflag uses bandwidth. |
| 23:49.44 | Jormungandr | actually.. I think my monitoring is broken. |
| 23:52.28 | Jormungandr | they're checking on it. |
| 23:52.45 | Jormungandr | at least they can't bill me for stuff they aren't tracking :) |
| 23:55.15 | [dmp] | ducati-admin needed |
| 23:55.23 | [dmp] | "killer" is tk'ing |
| 23:55.34 | [dmp] | on 5156 |
