irclog2html for #bzflag on 20030209

`00:18.31`	`Jormungandr`	`wow... secretplace has become a jungle.`
`00:37.31`	`*** join/#bzflag suavegirl (~somewhere@0x50c4919b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk)`
`00:37.41`	`[dmp]`	`oops`
`00:52.57`	`Jormungandr`	`people are finding ways around badwordlist. prolly using control characters in the words.`
`01:03.04`	`*** join/#bzflag faz (~faz@M288P018.dipool.highway.telekom.at)`
`01:09.31`	`doughecka`	`hmm?`
`01:14.30`	`Jormungandr`	`people can type the words in the badwordlist, but they have to be using some trick to do it.`
`01:26.44`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`01:26.48`	`doughecka`	`bug?`
`01:26.49`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`02:03.59`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:04.21`	`Jormungandr`	`maybe server should ignore non-text ascii characters entirely.`
`02:04.28`	`doughecka`	`wow, this is like chatting with mars, with the time lag... :)`
`02:04.30`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:04.41`	`Jormungandr`	`huge outage at work :(`
`02:04.45`	`Jormungandr`	`so I am in and out.`
`02:04.49`	`doughecka`	`heh`
`02:04.55`	`Jormungandr`	`not funny smack`
`02:05.30`	`Jormungandr`	`lost second server in 2 days.. and it has 300+ customer websites on it.`
`02:05.35`	`doughecka`	`wow`
`02:05.36`	`doughecka`	`why?`
`02:05.38`	`doughecka`	`hacker?`
`02:05.41`	`Jormungandr`	`we aren't sure.`
`02:05.46`	`Jormungandr`	`it looks like it.`
`02:05.46`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`02:05.51`	`Jormungandr`	`both boxes died the same way.`
`02:05.58`	`doughecka`	`but the bzfs server is safe?`
`02:06.04`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:06.06`	`doughecka`	`whew`
`02:06.11`	`Jormungandr`	`not associated with work`
`02:06.16`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`02:06.38`	`Jormungandr`	`we had about 22 people playing spirals earlier :)`
`02:06.42`	`doughecka`	`wow`
`02:06.49`	`Jormungandr`	`secretplace has become fairly popular.`
`02:06.58`	`doughecka`	`this has the badword filter?`
`02:07.02`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:07.06`	`doughecka`	`lemme try it`
`02:07.12`	`Jormungandr`	`okie`
`02:10.20`	`doughecka`	`works for me`
`02:10.27`	`doughecka`	`oddddd`
`02:10.48`	`doughecka`	`what are they doing to avoid the filter?`
`02:10.56`	`doughecka`	`maybe its an old version or something?`
`02:12.29`	`trepan`	`doughecka: add a \001 every second character or something?`
`02:12.37`	`doughecka`	`\001?`
`02:12.45`	`doughecka`	`whats that do?`
`02:12.54`	`trepan`	`make the word filter fail?`
`02:12.57`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`02:13.05`	`doughecka`	`dunno, I would have to take a peek at the logs`
`02:13.59`	`trepan`	`...in a hex editor, some chars don't print (like \007, the bell)`
`02:14.05`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`02:14.08`	`doughecka`	`maybe`
`02:14.11`	`doughecka`	`I should try`
`02:14.27`	`trepan`	`i could whip up a client to test against ya... 20 seconds`
`02:14.36`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:14.38`	`doughecka`	`in bzflag?`
`02:14.40`	`trepan`	`yup`
`02:14.45`	`doughecka`	`20 seconds?`
`02:14.51`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:14.51`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`02:14.53`	`trepan`	`well, more like 4 mins`
`02:15.00`	`doughecka`	`oh, ok... ;)`
`02:15.02`	`trepan`	`caught in my own lie :o)`
`02:15.07`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:16.31`	`Jormungandr`	`dunno what they are doing for sure, but whatever it is, it works.`
`02:16.39`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:17.54`	`*** join/#bzflag faz (~faz@M288P030.dipool.highway.telekom.at)`
`02:22.01`	`trepan`	`4 minutes are up... i'm done`
`02:22.09`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:22.25`	`trepan`	`never looked at the message sending code before..`
`02:22.32`	`doughecka`	`heh, who has?`
`02:22.35`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:22.53`	`doughecka`	`since 1993?`
`02:22.55`	`doughecka`	`heh`
`02:23.03`	`trepan`	`well, i'm prepared to swear if you've got a rant room`
`02:23.06`	`Jormungandr`	`at least I can use netstat to check the number of people on the server.`
`02:23.08`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:23.29`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:23.33`	`doughecka`	`haha`
`02:23.52`	`Jormungandr`	`I really want some form of monitor bot.`
`02:23.59`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:24.14`	`Jormungandr`	`something like stats.bzflag.org, but that also can see conversations, etc.`
`02:24.41`	`trepan`	`it would be easy to open another port, and just send that info out from bzfs`
`02:24.49`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:25.11`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:25.19`	`Jormungandr`	`then I could use it to kick people, etc.`
`02:25.21`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:25.23`	`Jormungandr`	`and bans`
`02:25.23`	`doughecka`	`woo`
`02:25.30`	`doughecka`	`and muting`
`02:25.30`	`Jormungandr`	`had a wierd thing happen earlier.`
`02:25.33`	`trepan`	`kind of like a remote console?`
`02:25.37`	`Jormungandr`	`chestal said it was big bug`
`02:25.38`	`Jormungandr`	`yeah`
`02:25.46`	`Jormungandr`	`where slots dissapear from server`
`02:25.49`	`doughecka`	`eh?`
`02:25.50`	`Jormungandr`	`so no one can get on.`
`02:25.50`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`02:25.55`	`Jormungandr`	`I killed and restarted.`
`02:26.23`	`trepan`	`i'm gonna take a stab at re-writing bzfs i think, add portals if people want`
`02:26.35`	`doughecka`	`YES YES!!!`
`02:26.36`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`02:26.52`	`Jormungandr`	`we talked about being able to go from 1 bzflag server to another through teleports.`
`02:27.07`	`trepan`	`ya, i read about it on one of the forums`
`02:27.08`	`doughecka`	`YES YES!!!!`
`02:27.09`	`Jormungandr`	`servers would ahve a trust relationship, and pass the score info on to new server.`
`02:27.29`	`trepan`	`that was one of my quesions, do you keep score, stay on the same team?`
`02:27.37`	`doughecka`	`trepan: sure`
`02:27.39`	`trepan`	`it would be nice to combine bzfs and bzfls`
`02:27.49`	`doughecka`	`trepan: but have it a server option/client option`
`02:27.50`	`doughecka`	`'`
`02:27.59`	`Jormungandr`	`you could make it so that server assigns team, or you keep same team.`
`02:28.16`	`trepan`	`ick, assigned teams sounds marxist to me`
`02:28.24`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`02:28.27`	`Jormungandr`	`well, it might make it kinda crazy.`
`02:28.28`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:28.31`	`doughecka`	`what would YOU suggest?`
`02:28.33`	`trepan`	`what if the color green sends you into epileptic fits?`
`02:28.35`	`doughecka`	`random teams?`
`02:28.44`	`Jormungandr`	`I was red in the last map, really!`
`02:28.56`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:29.00`	`Jormungandr`	`then you should take your medicine and buck up.`
`02:29.00`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:29.11`	`trepan`	`buy a screen filter... :o)`
`02:29.17`	`Jormungandr`	`yup`
`02:29.17`	`doughecka`	`hmm, what would be neat is the ability to see the other servers view through the teleport`
`02:29.33`	`Jormungandr`	`hrm.`
`02:29.35`	`doughecka`	`or better, yet, have the teleport show the current specs on the server`
`02:29.37`	`Jormungandr`	`that'd be hard, but cool.`
`02:29.39`	`trepan`	`ya, i at least want to draw the map in it, and post the numbers of players above`
`02:29.40`	`doughecka`	`players on a team`
`02:29.45`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:29.54`	`trepan`	`and then, bzfs could be used as bzfls`
`02:30.04`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:30.10`	`doughecka`	`and there would be a MASTER server`
`02:30.40`	`trepan`	`Yup, where you couldn't shoot anyone, and the teleporters would slide-up out of the ground as they were registered`
`02:30.43`	`Jormungandr`	`I think there doesn't need to be "master" server.`
`02:30.49`	`doughecka`	`trepan: cool`
`02:30.52`	`Jormungandr`	`like IRC, they'd form trust relationships.`
`02:31.04`	`doughecka`	`Jormungandr: just a beowulf cluster of teleports? :P`
`02:31.08`	`Jormungandr`	`yeah!`
`02:31.12`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:31.14`	`trepan`	`Jormungandr: yup, you'd always want a first contact though, i think`
`02:31.19`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:31.27`	`Jormungandr`	`well, you'd not just want to trust any server.`
`02:31.28`	`doughecka`	`1) make teleports...`
`02:31.28`	`doughecka`	`2) ????`
`02:31.28`	`doughecka`	`3) PROFIT!!!!`
`02:31.37`	`Jormungandr`	`you'd want to predefine your teleports.`
`02:31.41`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`02:31.42`	`doughecka`	`maybe`
`02:31.50`	`doughecka`	`maybe just have a city of teleports`
`02:31.53`	`Jormungandr`	`keeps kiddies from hacking the teleports with fake servers.`
`02:32.07`	`trepan`	`definitely, maybe put it in the map definition?`
`02:32.08`	`doughecka`	`and you can drive up and down looking at each teleport`
`02:32.10`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:32.17`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`02:33.19`	`trepan`	`well, sounds like something worth doing then, I'll make a basic version and then we can sort out the details`
`02:33.20`	`doughecka`	`would this be protocol breaking?`
`02:33.31`	`trepan`	`yup, I think it would have to be`
`02:33.37`	`doughecka`	`trepan: wow, just like that? most people would hem and haw about it for months`
`02:33.43`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`02:33.47`	`trepan`	`i ain't that kinda dude.`
`02:34.04`	`trepan`	`hey, i'm still waiting to swear at'cha... :o)`
`02:34.41`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:35.20`	`trepan`	`only bad thing is that I hate C++, prefer straight C`
`02:35.32`	`trepan`	`but, one does what one has to`
`02:35.38`	`doughecka`	`I am busy helping a friend install programs on his windows box over a dialup using remote assistance`
`02:36.18`	`trepan`	`later then, got a project to play with`
`02:36.26`	`doughecka`	`ok doke`
`02:36.27`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`02:36.35`	`*** part/#bzflag trepan (trepan@CPE0040f42db082-CM00e06f15f704.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`02:37.10`	`doughecka`	`sheesh, /me would PAY this person to get dsl... :)`
`02:37.18`	`doughecka`	`or cable`
`02:37.37`	`doughecka`	`or SOMETHING that has bandwidth greater than 2 kbs a sec`
`02:39.25`	`*** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-64-167-76-123.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)`
`02:39.40`	`doughecka`	`'lo the magnifisent Patlabor221`
`02:39.48`	`Jormungandr`	`hi patlabor`
`02:39.56`	`Patlabor221`	`what up g`
`02:40.24`	`Jormungandr`	`dealing with HUGE work outage.`
`02:40.58`	`Jormungandr`	`shared webserver with 350+ customers totally fragged... prolly hacked. second one in the last week.`
`02:41.09`	`Patlabor221`	`no es queno`
`02:41.21`	`Jormungandr`	`nope no es bueno`
`02:41.21`	`doughecka`	`hmm, trepan is gonna make up a beta version of portals.`
`02:41.31`	`Patlabor221`	`portals?`
`02:41.48`	`Jormungandr`	`at least secreplace.us/tiphareth.net and dragon.org are working just fine. :)`
`02:41.52`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:42.02`	`Patlabor221`	`that's good`
`02:42.24`	`doughecka`	`whew`
`02:42.37`	`Patlabor221`	`whoot MP3 web serv is up :)`
`02:42.52`	`doughecka`	`its a heavy relief, at least the bzfs servers dint go down, who CARES about them silly web servers... ;)`
`02:43.10`	`Patlabor221`	`the paying customers care`
`02:43.15`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:43.23`	`doughecka`	`mp3 web server?`
`02:43.25`	`Jormungandr`	`my servers are on a different provider than my employer.`
`02:43.30`	`Jormungandr`	`says a lot about my employer`
`02:43.32`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:43.35`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:43.45`	`doughecka`	`get a job at your new provider`
`02:43.46`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`02:43.47`	`Patlabor221`	`ja, secret virtual directory to the shared mp3 server on works internal net.`
`02:43.56`	`doughecka`	`cool`
`02:44.07`	`Jormungandr`	`doug, I'll be the new product manager for colo, when we get more than a handful of customers.`
`02:44.29`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`02:44.30`	`Jormungandr`	`I wanted to be the first customer, though.`
`02:44.33`	`Jormungandr`	`it was worth it, too.`
`02:44.33`	`doughecka`	`hehe`
`02:44.41`	`doughecka`	`I imagine`
`02:44.41`	`Jormungandr`	`site is fast.`
`02:45.02`	`Jormungandr`	`and costs me about the same as 1 server on other provider for 2 servers AND a 1ru switch.`
`02:45.11`	`Jormungandr`	`oooh, do tell, pat.`
`02:45.15`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor221: ooh, scary, why not share`
`02:45.28`	`Patlabor221`	`they may be to large to implement in bzfalg tho`
`02:45.53`	`Patlabor221`	`autorefs... enfoceded timed games. anouncers. all sorts of stuff`
`02:45.56`	`Patlabor221`	`must sort it out`
`02:46.02`	`doughecka`	`woo`
`02:46.29`	`Patlabor221`	`active music soundtracks`
`02:46.44`	`doughecka`	`hmm?`
`02:46.51`	`doughecka`	`active?`
`02:46.59`	`Patlabor221`	`real spawn points, ( weps come up from underground sores)`
`02:47.10`	`Patlabor221`	`changes with the state of the game`
`02:47.21`	`Patlabor221`	`faster music when you are on a flag run, ect...`
`02:47.56`	`doughecka`	`oooooh`
`02:48.08`	`Jormungandr`	`tranquility has it's own soundtrack, but I don't know how much it is sensitive to game play.`
`02:48.57`	`Patlabor221`	`the music was just a side idea`
`02:49.36`	`Jormungandr`	`I couldn't believe how many people were on secretplace.us today.`
`02:49.40`	`Patlabor221`	`the idea is to make the server more a part of the game then just something that slings messages around.`
`02:49.45`	`Jormungandr`	`it was chaos.`
`02:50.05`	`Jormungandr`	`pat, the beauty about the server doing that is that it doesn't load a machine up.`
`02:50.14`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`02:50.27`	`Patlabor221`	`and it can be changed without updating the clients`
`02:50.29`	`Jormungandr`	`so changes would have to keep that in mind.`
`02:50.32`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:51.30`	`doughecka`	`haha`
`02:51.32`	`doughecka`	`and portals`
`02:51.41`	`Patlabor221`	`but one that can be human controlled, or work with a human ref`
`02:51.49`	`doughecka`	`hmm, yea`
`02:51.52`	`Patlabor221`	`portals as in to other servers?`
`02:52.02`	`Patlabor221`	`I think that needs a LOT more thought`
`02:52.11`	`Patlabor221`	`I realy don't see what it would add.`
`02:52.17`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:52.23`	`doughecka`	`tropan is gonna work on it`
`02:52.35`	`Patlabor221`	`I could see an ingame version of the list serv`
`02:52.45`	`Patlabor221`	`there are other things I think that need more worrk`
`02:52.47`	`doughecka`	`yea..`
`02:52.48`	`Jormungandr`	`a robotic ref would rule... something to monitor speach and callsigns, etc.`
`02:52.55`	`Patlabor221`	`all of it,`
`02:52.59`	`Patlabor221`	`call out scores`
`02:53.03`	`Patlabor221`	`all kinds of stuff`
`02:53.05`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:53.08`	`doughecka`	`Jormungandr: yea, and if one person abuses it, it gets kicked`
`02:53.25`	`doughecka`	`banning is for people only`
`02:53.26`	`Patlabor221`	`it would start and stop timed games`
`02:53.29`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:53.34`	`Patlabor221`	`force adds to be observer only`
`02:53.37`	`Jormungandr`	`well, depends...`
`02:53.38`	`Patlabor221`	`handle subs`
`02:53.53`	`Patlabor221`	`I think everyone should force respawn on gamestart`
`02:53.57`	`Patlabor221`	`at random heighs`
`02:54.02`	`doughecka`	`?`
`02:54.04`	`doughecka`	`why`
`02:54.05`	`Jormungandr`	`if a person comes on from same IP a bunch of times in a row and is kicked for something significant, a ban should be placed.`
`02:54.05`	`doughecka`	`?`
`02:54.12`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:54.21`	`Patlabor221`	`so you can't take a "prime" position before gametime`
`02:54.32`	`Patlabor221`	`puts everyone on equal footing`
`02:54.43`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`02:54.45`	`doughecka`	`sweeyt`
`02:54.55`	`Patlabor221`	`it should work like subspace, they realy thought out there leauge and team stuff`
`02:55.09`	`doughecka`	`yes`
`02:55.09`	`Patlabor221`	`baflags stuff was never realy planed`
`02:55.12`	`Patlabor221`	`it just happend`
`02:55.35`	`doughecka`	`I like alot of things, like the power energy settings`
`02:55.44`	`doughecka`	`bzflag would be great with that`
`02:55.47`	`Patlabor221`	`just FFA stuff?`
`02:55.53`	`Patlabor221`	`or are you in a leauge`
`02:55.58`	`doughecka`	`FFA`
`02:56.04`	`doughecka`	`I play soccer and stuff too`
`02:56.06`	`doughecka`	`soccer is fun`
`02:56.09`	`Patlabor221`	`you should play the team stuff`
`02:56.14`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:56.17`	`Patlabor221`	`domination is coo`
`02:56.20`	`doughecka`	`capture the flags, I play that too`
`02:56.57`	`Patlabor221`	`addign stuff like shields and energy would change the basic gameplay of bzflag and make many of the current weps pointless.`
`02:57.05`	`doughecka`	`indeed`
`02:57.06`	`Patlabor221`	`I would not change that, and still call it bzflag`
`02:57.10`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`02:57.14`	`Patlabor221`	`that's a difrent game`
`02:57.19`	`doughecka`	`but still, a 3d subspace?`
`02:57.21`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`02:57.36`	`doughecka`	`I cant spell it`
`02:57.53`	`Patlabor221`	`it would not be like subspace because it would not be a simple overhead view`
`02:58.03`	`doughecka`	`yea...`
`02:58.04`	`Patlabor221`	`subspace would not work from any other view`
`02:58.09`	`doughecka`	`Continuum`
`02:58.09`	`doughecka`	`heh`
`02:58.17`	`Patlabor221`	`it's too fast for first person`
`02:58.26`	`Jormungandr`	`whew.. customers aren't too hostile so far.`
`02:58.35`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor221: yea`
`02:59.05`	`Patlabor221`	`a 3d subspace in the same view would be cool, but just in the looks departement`
`02:59.08`	`Jormungandr`	`sad thing is, the server we lost last week, all the customers were moved to this server, and are down again in the same week.`
`02:59.20`	`Patlabor221`	`bz has 1/2 an aditional dimension`
`02:59.20`	`doughecka`	`Jormungandr: ouch`
`02:59.38`	`Patlabor221`	`how are they haxoring you?`
`02:59.42`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor221: heh, but I meant things like energy levels, and stuff`
`02:59.43`	`Jormungandr`	`dunno yet.`
`02:59.52`	`doughecka`	`not THAT close to each other...`
`03:00.03`	`Jormungandr`	`we though first one was hardware failure or corrupt kernel stuff.`
`03:00.18`	`Jormungandr`	`now we know otherwise, and someone will have to do postmortem on drives.`
`03:00.21`	`Patlabor221`	`then the same thing happend on the other machien?`
`03:00.25`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`03:00.27`	`doughecka`	`heh`
`03:00.30`	`Patlabor221`	`sux`
`03:00.44`	`doughecka`	`immensly`
`03:00.50`	`Jormungandr`	`wierd stuff with '/dev/null' permissions and ls segfaulting.`
`03:01.00`	`doughecka`	`would I like it?`
`03:01.08`	`Patlabor221`	`don't roll your eyes at BIG O`
`03:01.15`	`Patlabor221`	`he would stomp you`
`03:01.18`	`Patlabor221`	`maybe`
`03:01.19`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`03:01.24`	`Patlabor221`	`mostly instrumentals`
`03:01.31`	`Jormungandr`	`only doug'd be stomped by a drawing.`
`03:01.44`	`doughecka`	`heh`
`03:02.03`	`doughecka`	`then I wouldnt like it, unless it has real intruments in it.. :)`
`03:02.13`	`Patlabor221`	`it's just as real as this place is`
`03:02.24`	`Patlabor221`	`it does`
`03:02.25`	`doughecka`	`anything with a cord attached isnt real`
`03:02.39`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`03:02.41`	`Patlabor221`	`the text window dosn't have a cord`
`03:02.47`	`Patlabor221`	`say it`
`03:02.49`	`Jormungandr`	`nope`
`03:02.54`	`Jormungandr`	`it's NAUGHTY`
`03:02.55`	`doughecka`	`anything musical with a cord attached isnt real`
`03:03.01`	`Jormungandr`	`and NOT musical.`
`03:03.04`	`Patlabor221`	`doug does not do well with abastract comments`
`03:03.13`	`doughecka`	`abastract`
`03:03.24`	`doughecka`	`ababababastract`
`03:03.25`	`Jormungandr`	`abba-stract`
`03:03.26`	`Patlabor221`	`ragnarok.bakadigital/darkmoor/anime/bigo/`
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`03:04.06`	`Jormungandr`	`hi MAC`
`03:04.11`	`doughecka`	`'lo MrApathyCream`
`03:04.24`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor221: cannot find server`
`03:04.32`	`doughecka`	`ehm`
`03:04.35`	`Patlabor221`	`http://ragnarok.bakadigital.com/darkmoor/Anime/BigO/`
`03:04.45`	`doughecka`	`29 tracks... wow`
`03:05.12`	`Patlabor221`	`well track 2 is wierd`
`03:05.24`	`Patlabor221`	`japanese queen rip off band`
`03:05.31`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`03:05.31`	`Patlabor221`	`it's REALY funny`
`03:05.40`	`doughecka`	`I am sure it is....`
`03:05.51`	`Patlabor221`	`but it all comes down to track 14`
`03:06.06`	`Patlabor221`	`perhaps you have suckage`
`03:06.20`	`Patlabor221`	`or I may be outa connections`
`03:06.24`	`doughecka`	`maybe its your leeenox box`
`03:06.25`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`03:06.26`	`Patlabor221`	`server only allows 10`
`03:06.27`	`doughecka`	`true`
`03:06.32`	`Patlabor221`	`it's not on leenox`
`03:06.36`	`Patlabor221`	`ragnarok is windows`
`03:06.41`	`doughecka`	`maybe its microooosoft`
`03:06.51`	`Patlabor221`	`it's the version of IIS that limits it to 10`
`03:06.57`	`Patlabor221`	`I have to upgarde to 2k server`
`03:06.58`	`doughecka`	`ick`
`03:07.02`	`doughecka`	`thats annoying`
`03:07.18`	`Patlabor221`	`IIS for 2k is only designed for local web dev testing`
`03:07.23`	`Patlabor221`	`so it's user limited`
`03:07.26`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`03:07.34`	`doughecka`	`sux`
`03:07.51`	`Patlabor221`	`just what it's designed for`
`03:08.00`	`Patlabor221`	`It's not like I don't have 2k server`
`03:08.13`	`doughecka`	`2k server wont allow dev stuff?`
`03:08.29`	`Patlabor221`	`sure it will, it's just overkill for a desktop OS`
`03:08.38`	`Patlabor221`	`it's optimsied for background stuff`
`03:08.55`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`03:09.25`	`Patlabor221`	`I just have to wait till Jeremy gets back in, he's the only one that knows how to set up MySQL on the thing`
`03:09.32`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't remmber the database passwords`
`03:09.36`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`03:09.39`	`doughecka`	`I know`
`03:09.46`	`doughecka`	`its on the bottom of the keyboard`
`03:09.49`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`03:09.52`	`doughecka`	`darn`
`03:09.53`	`Patlabor221`	`it's my keyboard`
`03:10.00`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`03:10.05`	`doughecka`	`check his keyboard?`
`03:10.06`	`Patlabor221`	`the servers are all on a KVM to my second monitor`
`03:10.19`	`Patlabor221`	`he did it at my desk`
`03:10.24`	`Patlabor221`	`he'll return and I'll update it`
`03:10.27`	`doughecka`	`does KVMs make the image blurry?`
`03:10.42`	`Patlabor221`	`not at 1280`
`03:10.47`	`doughecka`	`k`
`03:10.53`	`Patlabor221`	`it's on the second input on my second monitor`
`03:11.04`	`doughecka`	`hmm?`
`03:11.10`	`Patlabor221`	`first input is for the 1600 connection to my main PC`
`03:11.14`	`doughecka`	`cool`
`03:11.20`	`doughecka`	`like my dads monitor`
`03:11.28`	`Patlabor221`	`now this is a $300 server KVM with 8 ports`
`03:11.37`	`Patlabor221`	`big long thing`
`03:11.40`	`doughecka`	`its got coax and VGA`
`03:11.42`	`doughecka`	`hehe`
`03:11.53`	`Patlabor221`	`coax and din15 baka`
`03:11.58`	`Patlabor221`	`they both run VGA`
`03:11.59`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`03:12.04`	`doughecka`	`forgot the name`
`03:12.06`	`doughecka`	`nitpicker`
`03:12.18`	`Patlabor221`	`VGA is a standard, that like noone evn uses anymore`
`03:12.33`	`doughecka`	`SVGA?`
`03:12.37`	`doughecka`	`XGA?`
`03:12.42`	`Patlabor221`	`current one dosn't realy have a name`
`03:12.46`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`03:12.48`	`Patlabor221`	`no need since it just works`
`03:12.55`	`doughecka`	`hahaha`
`03:13.15`	`MrApathyCream`	`hi Jormungandr`
`03:13.19`	`Patlabor221`	`well it's not like the standards for that are changing as much as they did back in the day`
`03:13.25`	`MrApathyCream`	`lo doughecka`
`03:13.32`	`doughecka`	`'lo MrApathyCream`
`03:13.45`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor221: back when you used 8 inch floppys?`
`03:13.58`	`doughecka`	`or was it 5 inch?`
`03:13.58`	`Patlabor221`	`in the EGA/CGA/VGA day`
`03:14.01`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`03:14.06`	`doughecka`	`"those" days`
`03:14.10`	`Patlabor221`	`they had 8's and 5.25s`
`03:14.15`	`doughecka`	`MrApathyCream remembers them... :P`
`03:14.23`	`Patlabor221`	`before the base OS was asumed to be graphical`
`03:14.25`	`Patlabor221`	`I remember them`
`03:14.32`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`03:14.39`	`Patlabor221`	`I am techincaly old`
`03:14.50`	`Patlabor221`	`yes but that was old when you had it`
`03:14.54`	`Patlabor221`	`I remeber it new`
`03:14.55`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`03:14.56`	`doughecka`	`it was`
`03:14.57`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`03:15.18`	`doughecka`	`it had 1 5 inch drive and a BASIC cartrige`
`03:15.24`	`doughecka`	`and 2 joy sticks I think`
`03:15.31`	`Patlabor221`	`wern't you special`
`03:15.34`	`doughecka`	`yup`
`03:15.56`	`doughecka`	`then I upgraded to a 233 mhz amd... big step... :P`
`03:16.56`	`doughecka`	`or is it VE?`
`03:17.24`	`Patlabor221`	`your studying for an exam you don't even know the name of, wow that's sad`
`03:17.34`	`doughecka`	`typo`
`03:17.52`	`Patlabor221`	`your statement has a ? in it, that implies that you don't know.\`
`03:18.03`	`doughecka`	`that was a typo too`
`03:18.10`	`Patlabor221`	`perhaps an english class would help you.`
`03:18.30`	`doughecka`	`spelling class more like`
`03:18.49`	`Patlabor221`	`no I think you need help with al your comunication skills`
`03:19.55`	`doughecka`	`hmm?`
`03:19.59`	`doughecka`	`what for?`
`03:20.05`	`Patlabor221`	`what is it needed for`
`03:20.15`	`doughecka`	`packet`
`03:20.17`	`doughecka`	`APRS`
`03:20.35`	`Patlabor221`	`and what are you gonna do with those, sit in your room more?`
`03:20.59`	`doughecka`	`no, APRS is gps and stuff so one can track ones location`
`03:21.07`	`Patlabor221`	`where do you go?`
`03:21.08`	`doughecka`	`so that means I would have to be moving for that`
`03:21.17`	`Patlabor221`	`and where are gonna take a HAM with you`
`03:21.21`	`doughecka`	`all over das place`
`03:21.23`	`Patlabor221`	`and why not just use GPS?`
`03:21.47`	`doughecka`	`it uses GPS to report its location to people around the world`
`03:22.26`	`Patlabor221`	`well have fun`
`03:22.42`	`doughecka`	`do you have a license?`
`03:23.26`	`Patlabor221`	`why do I need one?`
`03:23.44`	`Patlabor221`	`not having want, need, nor posesion of a HAM radio`
`03:23.50`	`doughecka`	`heh`
`03:24.10`	`Patlabor221`	`have the internet`
`03:24.15`	`Patlabor221`	`and a good sense of direction`
`03:24.21`	`doughecka`	`you can get internet over hapcket`
`03:24.23`	`doughecka`	`packet`
`03:24.26`	`Patlabor221`	`and if I need a GPS, I know where I can gank one`
`03:24.35`	`Patlabor221`	`I can get net over dsl`
`03:24.38`	`Patlabor221`	`and phone`
`03:24.44`	`Patlabor221`	`and cell phone`
`03:24.49`	`Patlabor221`	`and wireless`
`03:25.05`	`Patlabor221`	`what the hell would I want to sent it via HAM radeio for?`
`03:25.15`	`Patlabor221`	`are you in the middle of the atlantic?`
`03:25.20`	`doughecka`	`possibly`
`03:25.23`	`Patlabor221`	`with a ham radio`
`03:25.26`	`Patlabor221`	`and a computer`
`03:25.31`	`doughecka`	`boat`
`03:25.33`	`Patlabor221`	`and all the equipment`
`03:25.40`	`doughecka`	`big boat`
`03:25.55`	`Patlabor221`	`you know kentucky is not near an ocean.`
`03:26.16`	`Patlabor221`	`go learn to program, do something useful`
`03:26.34`	`Patlabor221`	`or is it to hard? too much typing`
`03:26.40`	`doughecka`	`I can type for hours`
`03:26.49`	`doughecka`	`anyway...`
`03:50.05`	`MrApathyCream`	`this just in, according to GPS doughecka is still in his room`
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`04:55.51`	`captain_proton`	`oh MAC!`
`04:55.52`	`captain_proton`	`come back!`
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`05:58.39`	`Jormungandr`	`that's twice that all the slots filled up and made secretplace.us unusable.`
`06:14.58`	`Jormungandr`	`is there any sort of fix?`
`06:15.23`	`Jormungandr`	`maybe I can do a countdown and have it restart every 2 hours or something. :(`
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`06:59.29`	`ppl`	`hi`
`11:53.35`	`Chestal`	`Jorm: I have this problem very rarely. Lately, I lost 2 of my 8+4 slots, happens every few weeks for me`
`11:53.51`	`Chestal`	`Jorm: however, after a /superkill, all slots seem to be dead and I have to restart`
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`12:36.05`	`Chestal`	`hi calico, cooper`
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`15:03.39`	`doughecka`	`greetings`
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`15:32.28`	`ak\|ra`	`hi`
`15:35.01`	`Chestal`	`tag akira`
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`16:37.07`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hola`
`16:37.21`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`cool`
`16:37.21`	`[dmp]`	`hi`
`16:37.25`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`my ban is away`
`16:38.07`	`[dmp]`	`Oh okey.`
`16:38.10`	`[dmp]`	`Happens all the time`
`16:38.12`	`[dmp]`	`:)`
`16:39.16`	`[dmp]`	`are tlz up for a match tonight?`
`16:41.00`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`,sure`
`16:41.05`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`if team mates around`
`16:41.07`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:O9`
`16:41.09`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:o)`
`16:41.12`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`schould be`
`16:41.16`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`-c`
`16:41.49`	`[dmp]`	`ok, i'll tell calico when he gets back`
`16:43.25`	`[dmp]`	`:)`
`16:43.34`	`[dmp]`	`We got beaten by a few the other day.`
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`17:08.31`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`3 moles`
`17:09.17`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`brb`
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`17:36.27`	`[dmp]`	`Hi Ginku`
`17:36.44`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`hi dmp :-)`
`17:37.35`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`hehe`
`17:38.02`	`[dmp]`	`tlz is sure close to be the number team`
`17:38.09`	`[dmp]`	`you need 11+ points`
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`17:38.20`	`[dmp]`	`number 1 even`
`17:38.54`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`yep but not my merit ;-)`
`17:39.15`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`nr 1 yet ?`
`17:40.37`	`Chestal`	`but you'd have to beat either vbz or the Moles to get >11 points in a single match`
`17:40.40`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`11 points are missing to the leading moles...`
`17:40.59`	`Chestal`	`oru teams should have a match this evening if tlz is available`
`17:41.09`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`oohhhhhh`
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`17:41.53`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`Fanta , BeZee and Tea aren't online but I will ask them`
`17:42.04`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`if they show up :-)`
`17:42.08`	`doughecka`	`I get 100000000000 points`
`17:44.52`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`ah Lupi is online now`
`17:45.18`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`Tankmann too but not available`
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`17:56.50`	`Ruudi`	`hi`
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`17:58.42`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`~ducati6`
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`19:05.44`	`doughecka`	`'lo Patlabor221`
`19:09.52`	`Patlabor221`	`hello`
`19:12.33`	`Patlabor221`	`how goes it?`
`19:12.57`	`doughecka`	`full from lunch`
`19:12.58`	`Patlabor221`	`I see`
`19:16.12`	`doughecka`	`dark basic?`
`19:17.15`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`19:17.27`	`Patlabor221`	`a variation of basic for game dev`
`19:17.31`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`19:17.31`	`Patlabor221`	`you may like it`
`19:17.36`	`doughecka`	`hmm?`
`19:17.38`	`Patlabor221`	`but they charge too much`
`19:17.41`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`19:17.47`	`Patlabor221`	`barkbasic.com I think`
`19:17.52`	`Patlabor221`	`they have a 30 day trial`
`19:17.59`	`Patlabor221`	`sorry dark not bark`
`19:18.08`	`doughecka`	`cool`
`19:18.25`	`doughecka`	`impressive grafics for basic`
`19:18.36`	`doughecka`	`?`
`19:18.48`	`Patlabor221`	`it just calles GL`
`19:18.53`	`Patlabor221`	`or your sprites`
`19:19.02`	`doughecka`	`yea, but still... :)`
`19:19.03`	`Patlabor221`	`so it's not realy basic that does the grapics`
`19:19.18`	`Patlabor221`	`the lang dosn't determine what you can do, just how you do it`
`19:19.19`	`doughecka`	`$100!!!`
`19:19.24`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`19:19.25`	`doughecka`	`sheesh`
`19:19.37`	`doughecka`	`but then vc++ costs 500 bucks...`
`19:19.42`	`Patlabor221`	`you can draw a picture with basic, CC, java, or asembler`
`19:19.49`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`19:20.00`	`Patlabor221`	`there is a student version of VC for 70`
`19:20.02`	`doughecka`	`but basic is sorta basic to be drawing out a whole game in...`
`19:20.11`	`Patlabor221`	`you don't draw`
`19:20.17`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`19:20.19`	`Patlabor221`	`you just say "load this picture"`
`19:20.33`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`19:20.34`	`Patlabor221`	`then "blit the picture here"`
`19:20.44`	`Patlabor221`	`you don't draw each pixel in code`
`19:20.59`	`Patlabor221`	`so it's realy just a basic wraper around an API`
`19:21.08`	`doughecka`	`interesting`
`19:21.19`	`Patlabor221`	`everyone uses some from of API these days`
`19:21.22`	`Patlabor221`	`you need to`
`19:21.31`	`Patlabor221`	`no need to draw your own stuff`
`19:21.35`	`Patlabor221`	`unless your on a PS2`
`19:21.55`	`doughecka`	`heh`
`19:44.50`	`Patlabor221`	`who would have hosed it?`
`19:47.55`	`Jormungandr`	`its' up`
`19:48.02`	`Jormungandr`	`what causes flags to not be picked up?`
`19:48.07`	`Jormungandr`	`and would flag reset fix it?`
`19:48.11`	`*** join/#bzflag SATAN (~marcos@213.60.228.89)`
`19:48.50`	`Patlabor221`	`dono`
`19:49.14`	`Jormungandr`	`does /flagup populate with new flags?`
`19:49.24`	`Patlabor221`	`again dono :)`
`19:49.34`	`Patlabor221`	`that's what it looked like it did`
`19:49.45`	`Patlabor221`	`tells everyone to drop and repops flags`
`19:54.28`	`*** join/#bzflag Guest70286 (~Cell@p50803D77.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`19:54.30`	`Guest70286`	`lo`
`19:55.39`	`Patlabor221`	`doood, why?`
`19:57.46`	`Jormungandr`	`all the flags locked up on my server. noone could pick them up`
`19:57.54`	`Jormungandr`	`had to shutdown and restart.`
`19:58.00`	`Patlabor221`	`rather odd`
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`20:02.01`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~ducati6`
`20:02.14`	`[TLZ]Ginku`	`aber echt !`
`20:03.56`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~ducati6`
`20:09.48`	`doughecka`	`to make a spinning cube in dark basic:`
`20:10.27`	`Patlabor221`	`MakeSpinnyCube(1)?`
`20:10.46`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~ducati6`
`20:10.51`	`doughecka`	`MAKE OBJECT CUBE 1,100`
`20:10.51`	`doughecka`	`DC`
`20:10.51`	`doughecka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:10.51`	`doughecka`	`LOOP`
`20:11.26`	`doughecka`	`DC=DO dumb fonts`
`20:11.46`	`*** join/#bzflag tankmann (t@pD951D52E.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`20:11.53`	`Patlabor221`	`see it's just an API`
`20:12.02`	`doughecka`	`yup`
`20:12.08`	`doughecka`	`easy as pie`
`20:15.48`	`Patlabor221`	`have you ever tried to make a pie?`
`20:15.52`	`Patlabor221`	`it's kinda hard.`
`20:15.58`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`american pie`
`20:16.09`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`20:16.16`	`Patlabor221`	`yes but finding fresh americans is not easy.`
`20:16.17`	`doughecka`	`this is "kinda" hard too`
`20:23.38`	`doughecka`	`Jormungandr: teamkilling on your server, and there was a guy with a bad callsign`
`20:23.40`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`20:23.47`	`Jormungandr`	`doug... I am also on the server as Nidhoggr`
`20:24.38`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`20:24.43`	`doughecka`	`thats who you are`
`20:24.43`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`20:24.50`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor221: hmm`
`20:25.33`	`Patlabor221`	`cus in real team games it should not matter`
`20:25.52`	`Jormungandr`	`I can't use nidhoggr on here cuz someone registered out from under me.`
`20:25.58`	`Patlabor221`	`and if you realy want a FFA, then team is just a way to change your tank color.`
`20:27.14`	`Chestal`	`we need an option where the server assigns you to a team when you join`
`20:27.22`	`*** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com)`
`20:27.44`	`Chestal`	`hi calico`
`20:27.56`	`Chestal`	`care for a match? we need a victory :-)`
`20:28.08`	`Patlabor221`	`yes, force ballance or something like that`
`20:28.19`	`calico`	`hi`
`20:28.30`	`calico`	`let me find dmp`
`20:28.39`	`calico`	`and we will`
`20:28.40`	`Chestal`	`calico: check out the league site for the embarassing news`
`20:28.47`	`calico`	`uh oh`
`20:29.23`	`calico`	`oooo, how could you`
`20:29.33`	`calico`	`4-3 very close`
`20:30.00`	`calico`	`wow tlz is in 1st now`
`20:30.16`	`Chestal`	`yep`
`20:30.26`	`Chestal`	`my team needs more practice`
`20:30.27`	`*** join/#bzflag God-fearer (~vds@5.201.27.24.cfl.rr.com)`
`20:30.46`	`God-fearer`	`Connection failed: Error connecting to server. :(`
`20:30.55`	`God-fearer`	`~bzlist`
`20:30.59`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:o)`
`20:31.16`	`God-fearer`	`~bzflist`
`20:31.41`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`ibot bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156`
`20:31.41`	`God-fearer`	`Can anyone help figger out why?`
`20:31.46`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`were`
`20:31.57`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`god-fearer`
`20:31.58`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`?`
`20:31.59`	`God-fearer`	`xmission.bzflag.org:5155`
`20:32.05`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hmm`
`20:32.06`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`wait`
`20:32.42`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`i cant aswell`
`20:32.43`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`dunno why`
`20:32.47`	`God-fearer`	`:(`
`20:33.14`	`God-fearer`	`:oO Help! :)`
`20:34.07`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`oooh`
`20:34.08`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:)`
`20:37.11`	`God-fearer`	`Spmepne here has gotta know why ... grrr`
`20:37.18`	`Cell`	`doughecka: how was the tool for remote terminal login from ie called?`
`20:37.22`	`God-fearer`	`Someone here ... grrr grrr`
`20:37.29`	`Cell`	`forgot that`
`20:38.13`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hmm`
`20:44.27`	`Jormungandr`	`server password should be changeable by an admin during the game.`
`20:45.34`	`Patlabor221`	`with my change you don't need to do a /pass after you register your name. :)`
`20:45.59`	`Patlabor221`	`does remind me I need to add a /passchange <old pass> <newpass>`
`20:46.01`	`Jormungandr`	`which is good.`
`20:46.05`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`20:46.11`	`Patlabor221`	`and a /remove`
`20:46.15`	`Jormungandr`	`yeah`
`20:46.22`	`Jormungandr`	`how is it coming along?`
`20:46.45`	`*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@CPE002078c68203-CM014370004644.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`20:46.53`	`*** join/#bzflag paul ([g1v6oNQch@hibernia.jakma.org)`
`20:46.54`	`Patlabor221`	`I have a number of the commands implemented /register /identify /SetRIghts`
`20:47.03`	`Patlabor221`	`working out the kinks outa set rights`
`20:47.19`	`Jormungandr`	`cool`
`20:47.21`	`Patlabor221`	`and I realised I need to add a new right, setSetRights`
`20:47.36`	`Jormungandr`	`ah`
`20:47.36`	`Patlabor221`	`or a sub admin could make more sub admins`
`20:47.39`	`Patlabor221`	`and that's not right`
`20:47.40`	`Jormungandr`	`true`
`20:48.07`	`Patlabor221`	`it's set up so that you have to have the access right to be able to set the same right on somone else`
`20:48.21`	`Jormungandr`	`as it is, when someone kicks someone else, or does a /password, it should notify everyone else that is already /passworded`
`20:48.23`	`Patlabor221`	`so you could make a ref that could make other refs`
`20:48.25`	`Patlabor221`	`and that's it`
`20:48.29`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`20:48.51`	`Patlabor221`	`BZ currently supports multiple admins`
`20:49.34`	`Patlabor221`	`I also got it set up so if your rights change and you are online, you are notified who changed them`
`20:49.50`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`a new bzcop?`
`20:50.07`	`Patlabor221`	`?`
`20:50.20`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`n?`
`20:50.22`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`dunno`
`20:50.28`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`never mind , forget it`
`20:50.32`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:D`
`20:50.34`	`Patlabor221`	`doug added one`
`20:50.39`	`Patlabor221`	`for some reason`
`20:50.39`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`who?`
`20:51.13`	`Patlabor221`	`I think it's creeperZ`
`20:51.36`	`Patlabor221`	`noone knows for sure, doug just added him cus his name was "IHateCheaters"`
`20:51.42`	`Patlabor221`	`not very well thought out.`
`20:51.55`	`bzgirl`	`LT.D was the guy he added the other day`
`20:52.32`	`Patlabor221`	`I think he added another since then, but he dosn't know how to use the bzcop stuff.`
`20:52.32`	`bzgirl`	`i removed him as i'd seen/kicked him for cheating on ducati and turkey`
`20:52.52`	`Chestal`	`hi bzg`
`20:53.00`	`bzgirl`	`hello Chestal :-)`
`20:53.12`	`Patlabor221`	`well at least there is a good cop :)`
`20:53.36`	`bzgirl`	`i dont like the way its set up to be honest`
`20:53.53`	`bzgirl`	`i shouldnt be able to remove anyone, nort add anyone on my own`
`20:53.55`	`Patlabor221`	`it needs to be more then just a list of people, needs some order`
`20:53.57`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`20:54.18`	`Patlabor221`	`needs a captan, and some lutenants, and then normal cops, and then rookes`
`20:54.30`	`bzgirl`	`yeah`
`20:54.58`	`Patlabor221`	`with my server changes I hope to be able to help by giveing difrent users difrent permisions on a server`
`20:55.00`	`bzgirl`	`i think its a generally good idea, but one bad choice and its ruined`
`20:55.03`	`Patlabor221`	`not just a password that does it all`
`20:55.28`	`bzgirl`	`yes Pat, been following that, thats a much better solution`
`20:55.59`	`Patlabor221`	`well it's not relay gonna be good unless I can get it to work with a shared database.`
`20:56.00`	`captain_proton`	`yaaawn`
`20:56.14`	`Patlabor221`	`welcome to the land of the living cappy`
`20:57.05`	`captain_proton`	`i had to wake up in the morning`
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`20:57.58`	`Patlabor221`	`good god why`
`20:59.12`	`captain_proton`	`rehearsal type thing for a concert type thing later today`
`20:59.53`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhhh`
`20:59.57`	`Patlabor221`	`what do you play cap?`
`21:00.03`	`Patlabor221`	`never asked that :)`
`21:00.10`	`captain_proton`	`cello`
`21:00.15`	`Patlabor221`	`very cool`
`21:05.34`	`Jormungandr`	`have you seen apple switch commerical with yoyo ma?`
`21:06.00`	`Jormungandr`	`he says "my name is yoyo ma, and I play the cello"`
`21:06.13`	`Jormungandr`	`I was thinking about how it was such a huge understatement.`
`21:06.25`	`Jormungandr`	`it actually made me laugh.`
`21:06.27`	`Patlabor221`	`LOL`
`21:06.48`	`Patlabor221`	`damn that new imac looks top heavy`
`21:07.00`	`Jormungandr`	`the 17" screen one?`
`21:07.03`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`21:07.07`	`Patlabor221`	`spensive too`
`21:07.08`	`Jormungandr`	`those bases are heavy, though.`
`21:07.17`	`Patlabor221`	`must be`
`21:07.23`	`Patlabor221`	`they realy need one under a grand`
`21:07.25`	`Jormungandr`	`I want the new 12" powerbook with a superdrive in it. :)`
`21:17.54`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`g00d n8`
`21:18.08`	`*** part/#bzflag [TeA\|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E96A45.dip.t-dialin.net)`
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`21:42.47`	`MrApathyCream`	`WOOWOO captain_proton checks something in!!!!`
`21:43.14`	`Jormungandr`	`heh`
`21:44.22`	`captain_proton`	`:)`
`21:44.54`	`Jormungandr`	`when secretplace.us slows down, I need to change admin password.`
`21:45.06`	`Patlabor221`	`what the hell whoudl he check in?`
`21:45.26`	`MrApathyCream`	`just some make file changes :)`
`21:45.29`	`MrApathyCream`	`(but it's a start)`
`21:45.32`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`21:45.57`	`Patlabor221`	`naw he's probably just checking in stuff he changed a while ago before the ditches the folder`
`21:46.28`	`Jormungandr`	`snort`
`21:46.34`	`captain_proton`	`Patlabor221: shhhhh`
`21:46.55`	`MrApathyCream`	`could be`
`21:47.59`	`scanline`	`hehe`
`21:49.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`i'm hoping to talk him into change the case of some of the .cxx file names and checking them in`
`21:49.16`	`MrApathyCream`	`(hopefully this will move him in the right direction)`
`21:49.36`	`Patlabor221`	`the case?`
`21:49.45`	`Patlabor221`	`I'd like to see cpp files`
`21:49.46`	`Patlabor221`	`:)`
`21:49.48`	`Jormungandr`	`make them all lowercase?`
`21:49.49`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`21:50.12`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhh`
`21:50.34`	`Chestal`	`.cc is the one and only extension`
`21:50.39`	`MrApathyCream`	`he is *nix, and as they don't have a cap key, yes lowercase`
`21:50.45`	`Patlabor221`	`cap/scan how is the stream of jet going?`
`21:51.06`	`Patlabor221`	`and replace all gl rendering calls with printf`
`21:51.13`	`Patlabor221`	`so it works in terminal`
`21:51.40`	`MrApathyCream`	`hehe`
`21:54.19`	`Jormungandr`	`pat, do you play much bzflag?`
`21:54.30`	`Patlabor221`	`some not much tho`
`21:54.35`	`Patlabor221`	`perfer working on it`
`21:54.38`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`21:55.07`	`Jormungandr`	`there are a few bzfs bugs that need to be dealt with. I am going to have to run a rotating server, I think.`
`21:55.19`	`Patlabor221`	`what are they?`
`21:55.22`	`Jormungandr`	`just because I have to keep killing and restarting after a day because of issues.`
`21:55.53`	`Jormungandr`	`1) server looses player slots and no one can get on. 2) gets to where no one can pick up a flag.`
`21:56.33`	`Patlabor221`	`player list should be a map based on nick`
`21:56.41`	`Patlabor221`	`or a nick hash or something`
`21:56.46`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`21:57.07`	`Patlabor221`	`by the godess.!!!`
`21:57.59`	`Patlabor221`	`wow,I may not have to work at Job #2 after this next week, amazing`
`21:58.59`	`Patlabor221`	`I'll actualy have evenings off. :)`
`22:03.11`	`Jormungandr`	`yay`
`22:03.27`	`Jormungandr`	`I need day shift hours again.`
`22:03.35`	`Jormungandr`	`night shift is killing me.`
`22:06.49`	`Patlabor221`	`I kinda wouldn't mind them if I dindn't live where I live now.`
`22:06.59`	`Patlabor221`	`night woudl mean less inturuporions`
`22:09.03`	`Jormungandr`	`where I work is serious bad part of town.`
`22:09.29`	`*** join/#bzflag MrCooper_ (~daenzer@dclient80-218-112-24.hispeed.ch)`
`22:09.37`	`Jormungandr`	`and the bathroom is only accessible by leaving the building, walking 1/2 way around it and going in another entrance.`
`22:09.41`	`Jormungandr`	`not cool.`
`22:09.49`	`Jormungandr`	`especially at night.`
`22:10.56`	`*** join/#bzflag freelancer (~luis@ool-18bcd01b.dyn.optonline.net)`
`22:11.19`	`freelancer`	`hi all`
`22:11.25`	`Jormungandr`	`hi freelancer`
`22:11.53`	`freelancer`	`captain proton`
`22:12.48`	`freelancer`	`captain proton around????`
`22:13.01`	`Jormungandr`	`he's been idle for a little while now`
`22:13.34`	`freelancer`	`i always miss him by a few minutes`
`22:14.02`	`freelancer`	`be back later,bye`
`22:14.07`	`Patlabor221`	`proabalby at his concert`
`22:14.17`	`freelancer`	`thanks`
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`22:22.59`	`Cell`	`lo`
`22:23.20`	`Patlabor221`	`middle`
`22:26.22`	`doughecka`	`high`
`22:29.24`	`Cell`	`does bzflag run faster on linux than windows?`
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`23:32.43`	`[dmp]`	`~ducati6`
`23:38.55`	`faz`	`is there a really good player who could joint a server for a while?`

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