irclog2html for #bzflag on 20021230

00:01.05Mayhemcaptain_proton: so bzfls is going to need a fair bit of work...
00:01.11captain_protonMayhem: yep
00:03.35jzaunGood evning all
00:03.50Mayhemcaptain_proton: seriously, a planning document would be worthwhile
00:04.01Mayhemevening jzaun
00:04.19jzaunSo whats up with everyone tonight?
00:06.32Mayhemall asleep/playing on ducati
00:07.43jzaunfun fun
00:07.49jzaunHello Chestal
00:07.58Chestalproton: but what does bzfls send to bzfs to confirm the auth?
00:08.00Chestalhi jzaun
00:09.44Chestalbzfls could send a cookie (random nbumber) to both bzfs and bzflag maybe?
00:10.31captain_protonbzfs could do it
00:10.52Chestalor bzfs sends random number to bzflag on join, bzflag sends that with auth req. to bzfls, bzfls sends it to bzfs along with auth confirm
00:10.53captain_protonbzfs makes the cookie, sends to client, client sends auth info w/ cookie to bzfls, bzfls sends cookie & yay/nay to client
00:10.56MayhemChestal: bzflag would want to auth with bzfls once, then it would be set for multiple game servers
00:11.23ChestalMayhem: I don't thinj this can be done without keys
00:11.48captain_protonwe could make bzflag store the password in its config files so you don't have to type it out
00:12.08Chestalyes, user shoudl only type the password when it's changed
00:12.16Chestalno need to enforce a high local security
00:12.41Mayhemso the three way auth has to be done each time you connect to a bzfs...
00:12.44Chestalproton: I guess it should read 'to bzfs', not 'to client' above?
00:13.01captain_protonChestal: right :P
00:13.36Chestalhmm, bzfls sends to bzfs
00:13.47Chestalthere is no perm connection between them, is there?
00:13.58Chestalnot yet, anyway
00:14.31captain_protonright now it connects every five minutes i think
00:14.40captain_protonwe might want to change it to a keepalive type thing
00:14.54Mayhemor when there is a player change etc.
00:15.23Chestalhmm, correct there is bzfs<->bzfls communicatin on each join already
00:15.39Mayhemand score change?
00:16.02Chestalbzfls doesn't know about scores
00:16.08Mayhemanyway, connection is already there.
00:16.55Mayhembut that is after a join, to update the list server.  Would need to get the auth in before that.
00:18.17Chestalhmm, if we use passwords, I don't see how other web sites could use bzfls (or a backend ldap server) for authentication
00:18.43Chestalthey would need to perform a 3 way handshake, too
00:18.59Mayhemperhaps bzfls should generate the cookie, that auths with the client.  bzfs just has to check with the list server.
00:20.17ChestalI really feel that if we can incorporate public key stuff easily, it would make things more manageable
00:22.26MayhemI like the public key idea, as long as its not over the top for what we are trying to do.
00:23.59Chestalwell,I really have to go, cu tomorrow
00:24.10Mayhemcya chestal
00:25.02Big_Barrelstrayer???
00:25.13ak|racu Chestal
00:25.27[TeA|TrEE]määp
00:25.50strayerBig_Barrel: yes?
00:26.00Big_Barrelcan you play?
00:27.41[TeA|TrEE]moep
00:27.43[TeA|TrEE]hehe
00:28.30strayerwhats with Ur 'moep'?
00:29.32[TeA|TrEE]hehe
00:35.16[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
00:57.51[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
00:59.04*** part/#bzflag Noodleman (~3v1ln00d1@bc176248.bendcable.com)
01:07.05[TeA|TrEE]oh man
01:07.08[TeA|TrEE]2:15 am here
01:10.42strayeryep :)
01:17.16[TeA|TrEE]ssrayer :((
01:17.16[TeA|TrEE]strayer :((
01:17.16[TeA|TrEE]da?
01:17.16[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
01:17.19strayerit will never answer U :)
01:17.19strayer[TeA|TrEE]?
01:17.19[TeA|TrEE]ja
01:17.20[TeA|TrEE]was?
01:17.20strayerich wünsche dir nen guten rutsch ins neue jahr...
01:17.20[TeA|TrEE]gehst du jetzt
01:17.43strayerjo...
01:17.43[TeA|TrEE]:(((((
01:17.43[TeA|TrEE]Nachti und guten rutsch
01:17.43strayerhatte ben ein match gegen ProXS...laaangweilig
01:18.25strayerdake...ebenso :)
01:18.25strayerdanke...hehe
01:19.12strayerbye...
01:33.17*** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@host-66-81-191-230.rev.o1.com)
01:33.17bzdoug'lo Patlabor221
01:33.17Patlabor221hello
01:33.18Patlabor221must be nive
01:33.18Patlabor221nice
01:33.18bzdougit came with the worse headphones on the planet
01:33.18bzdougits "over the ear" type, and I dunno how to wear it
01:33.18Patlabor221like over the back of the head?
01:33.18Patlabor221street style?
01:33.18Patlabor221those are great
01:33.18bzdoughmm, maybe
01:33.18bzdougbut the speakers then face up
01:33.18Patlabor221or are they ear bud type things
01:33.18bzdougyea
01:33.18Patlabor221are they contected to each other?
01:33.18bzdougbut the speakers face out, not in
01:33.18bzdougyes
01:33.18Patlabor221they should angle a bit up
01:33.19bzdoughmm
01:33.19Patlabor221since your ears are not flat on your head, but tilted down
01:33.19bzdougthey collapse too, so its like its flat
01:33.19Patlabor221the band goes around the back of your head
01:33.22bzdougbut the dont rotate or nothin
01:33.25Patlabor221over your ear
01:33.41bzdougI tried that, but then the speakers face up
01:34.24Patlabor221what brand is it?
01:34.32bzdougrio
01:34.44bzdougio 600 digital audio player
01:34.48bzdougrio*
01:34.54Patlabor221yeah by sonic blue
01:35.00bzdougyea
01:35.31bzdougick
01:35.33bzdougwhy?
01:35.45bzdougo1.net?
01:35.56Patlabor221is ether that or nothin fro another week
01:36.04bzdougick
01:36.11bzdougsue them
01:36.27Patlabor221sue who?
01:36.49Patlabor221I'm changing providers
01:36.51bzdougum, whoever is messin with your internet
01:36.52bzdougooh
01:37.07Patlabor221old company is gone
01:37.13bzdougah
01:37.59Patlabor221hmm the rio 600 isn't made any more
01:38.14bzdougyup
01:38.27bzdougmy uncle got it
01:38.56Patlabor221well just get new phones
01:39.12bzdougyea
01:39.39bzdougbut I like the calapselness
01:40.27Patlabor221I'm sure there are colapsable ones that work
01:40.40Patlabor221orjust figure out how to wear them
01:40.41bzdoughmm
01:41.05bzdougother people say the headphones are just golden
01:41.11bzdougand the sound it good
01:41.18bzdougits just so funny shaped
01:42.32[TeA|TrEE]night all
01:42.34[TeA|TrEE]3 am here
01:42.44bzdoughah
01:42.50[TeA|TrEE]2:59 am
01:42.51bzdougmost people stay till 9
01:42.54[TeA|TrEE]2:50
01:42.58[TeA|TrEE]:PP
01:42.59[TeA|TrEE]bye
01:43.02bzdougcya
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01:43.15bzdougweee, 368KB left
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02:50.05captain_protonyawn
02:51.41*** join/#bzflag michaelhagain (~d162b376@chat.ircnet.org)
02:52.07michaelhagainsomeone remind me again how to undo a patch
02:52.16michaelhagainpatch -p0
02:52.35vogonpatch -p0 -R.
02:53.01michaelhagainand then the filename?
02:53.20sussudio:-|
02:53.41michaelhagainwhat is up with the -p0 and -p1 thingee ?
02:54.02vogonit specifies how many levels of directory name should be stripped off to find the files to patch.
02:54.02michaelhagainor is that just a mystery
02:54.39michaelhagainso curious why different when undoing vs doing
02:55.21michaelhagainif anyone knows
02:56.28vogonbecause patches are only one-way.
02:56.53vogonif patch finds something that looks like patched source, it'll prompt, asking if you wanted to specify -R, but it won't do it for you.
02:57.07Big_Barrelsomeone want to fill in for ProXS?
02:57.19Big_Barrela 3v3 match?
02:57.23Big_Barrelunofficial
02:57.40sussudiowhy
02:57.55Big_Barrelfor fun
02:57.58Big_Barrelwhy else
02:58.07sussudio*shrug*
02:58.15Big_Barrelthey need a 3rd player
02:58.45sussudiothere's nobody on ducati
03:00.04michaelhagainah ha patch -p1 -R < patchname here works
03:00.54michaelhagainthe power of patching is mine... muahaha
03:01.38michaelhagainlink! link!
03:03.21michaelhagainat least with VC++ you get that satisfying ding when it compiles...
03:04.20michaelhagainof course you have to pay for the ding
03:10.15vogonwho was that guy, and how did he pass the entrance test for Linux?
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03:10.46captain_protonvogon: he didn't
03:10.50captain_protonvogon: unixutils for windows
03:10.58vogonhahaha.
03:11.01vogonoh, lord.
03:11.56sussudioi see noodleroni is in retardo-mode again
03:12.36captain_protonits scary how many people try to argue that retardo-mode requires skill
03:13.15vogonit takes skill to be retarded.  I mean, look at how many highly-paid stand-up comedians there are!
03:13.17sussudioskills like jumping?
03:13.33vogonsussudio: and doing that hitting-yourself-in-the-chest thing with your hand.
03:13.43captain_proton*thump*
03:13.55sussudiovogon: i think most of them do the thumping in a lower region
03:22.31captain_protonbah
03:22.36captain_protonNO I DO NOT WANT NEMESIS
03:22.38captain_protonTHANK YOU VERY MUCH
03:22.57sussudioaww
03:26.25vogonyou know what's l33t about GNUtella?
03:26.49sussudioendless sync packets?
03:26.58vogonthe nodes that have all of the Negativland, Frank Zappa, and Lovin' Spoonful MP3s are always the one connected via TCP/IP over avian carriers.
03:27.05vogonones, rather.
03:28.25vogoneither that, or they've got free reign of an OC-48.
03:28.48vogonbut they're also serving, like, 50,000 Britney Spears songs, and there's a limit of 5 connections.
03:31.30captain_protonomg
03:31.32captain_protoncube -2- ??
03:31.53captain_protondidn't they realize that cube was the most godawful movie ever?
03:35.18captain_protonhaha
03:36.07captain_protoneeek
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04:05.07captain_protonsup Patlabor221
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04:08.25Patlabor221hey
04:08.39scanlinehi
04:08.58sussudiotsk.... kernel panic has resorted to cheating......
04:12.33captain_protonsussudio: ?
04:12.39captain_protonPatlabor221: again?
04:12.57captain_protonscanline: i have been so unbelievably useless these last couple days its scary
04:13.04Patlabor221again
04:13.16Patlabor221I am on the dialup right now
04:14.10sussudiocaptain_proton: i had him at point blank at 2 different occasions..... took 4 shots at him, he didnt die.
04:14.28sussudiothere's no such thing as coincidence.
04:14.38scanlinecaptain_proton: well, I'll be leaving for colorado tomorrow morning
04:14.50scanlinecaptain_proton: Jai's lan party day after tomorrow if you can come :)
05:29.19*** join/#bzflag BZFlag (timr@216.190.31.164.yoda.infowest.net)
05:29.34jzaunHi BZFlag! How was your x-mas?
05:29.49*** mode/#bzflag [+o BZFlag] by ChanServ
05:29.51BZFlagsup?
05:29.59BZFlaghave not dug through all the bz mail. anything critical?
05:30.03BZFlag~bzflist
05:30.10jzaunnot much with me
05:30.23BZFlaglooks like ibot and the list server are both ok. ;-)
05:30.27sussudionumber of cheaters seems to have increased exponentially over this week
05:30.34jzaunabout the most intereting thing is having updated the patch to include a transparent HUD :-)
05:31.04jzaunsussudio: that it does seem. I wonder if someone just put up a cheat client for dload
05:31.18sussudiojzaun: they probably just hex-edited the servor client
05:31.31BZFlagjzaun: sweet. I'll check it out when I get back in town. on 56k at present.
05:31.44jzaunsussudio: that seams like alot of work for as many as I've seen
05:31.47BZFlagany interesting cheats?
05:32.01jzaunBZFlag: heh, i'm on 56K all the time :-(
05:32.02sussudioyesterday's cheatbot on ducati.....
05:32.13sussudioall it did was get the flag, put it on the home plate
05:32.15sussudioover and over again
05:32.22BZFlaga bot? cool. now that's some code we could use. ;-)
05:32.31sussudioand the instant teleport bot.
05:32.42sussudioteleports to wherever someone spawns, shoots.
05:32.44BZFlagfind out who did it and remind them of the GPL. ;-)
05:32.45jzaunsussudio: whats that oe?
05:32.59sussudiooe?
05:33.15sussudiothe ducati bot gave 1.7e2 as a client version
05:33.17BZFlagteleporting bots suck. we need to add some movement checks in the server.
05:34.11BZFlagnon-tank origin shots could be checked for and prevented too.
05:34.27jzaunI nice check would be that the same person can't pickup the same flag more than say 3 times in a row too...
05:34.29sussudioi logged on with a version i rigged with a return goodHit so i couldnt be killed
05:34.43sussudioi actually saw the teleport-bot appear and disappear in a flash, shooting at me
05:35.30jzaunBZFlag: where ya at on vacation?
05:35.42BZFlagjzaun: shot looks nice! ;-)
05:35.47BZFlagSt george UT.
05:36.06jzaunBZFlag: thanks.. still need to update the graphics for transparent backgrounds
05:36.22BZFlagjzaun: why the flag limit?
05:36.27jzaunhopefully the patch will be read to commit shortly
05:36.43BZFlagat some point we'll change the flags so that the server does not send the flag type till you pick it up.
05:36.49jzaunBZFlag: I've seen people get GM over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
05:37.08jzaunits rather anoying
05:37.30sussudiojzaun: that's either the pick-a-flag perfectcell client or the one that paints GM flags in a different color on the map
05:37.36BZFlagyeah, I've hacked a devel client to color GM and L flags. easy patch.
05:38.00BZFlagif the server does not send the correct flag type till a pickup it should protect from that.
05:38.32sussudionot if you override it by making the server think you have identify
05:38.51jzauneh, should remove identify :-)
05:39.08BZFlagserver will check that you are near a flag you pickup and insure you don't have more than one.
05:39.43BZFlagserver would send flags that you are "near", or perhaps the client would request them and the server check to be sure you are "near"/
05:40.47jzaunBZFlag: enjoying your vaca?
05:41.12BZFlagwell, better get off the phone. cya. it's ok. made a music cd. I'll put em up for sale on the web site. ;-)
05:41.23jzaunCool
05:41.26jzaunhace fun :-)
05:42.14BZFlagcya
05:42.21jzauncya
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05:43.17jzaunGood early morning, MAC
05:44.07MrApathyCreamheya
05:58.37MrApathyCreammechaelh20 certainly is an eager beaver
06:01.54vogonoh, geez.
06:01.57vogonthinko ahoy.
06:04.44jzaunvogon: a) that would hurt b) you must be very flexible
06:06.06vogonthat name's not highfalutin enough.
06:06.17vogonit needs to be "vertical refresh modality hertz."
06:06.28vogonor something even less information-dense.
06:06.31captain_protonvrmHz
06:06.46vogonprecisely.
06:07.37vogonwhee.
06:07.43vogonone horrible bug down, many more to go.
06:18.41vogonwhoo. users are persistent again.
06:18.55vogon(finally.)
06:33.50sussudioto hunt the wabbit, you have to think like the wabbit.
07:22.34tvonany turkey admins around?  numbers boy is back
07:22.49sussudioyeah he was on another server earlier
07:22.54sussudiojust ban japan, get it over with.
07:22.59tvonhah
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12:22.32Terminatorhey is any admin here for ducati?
12:22.37Terminatorany bzcops?
12:22.50Terminatorwe got a team killer in ducati ctf
12:23.30Terminatoroh well
12:23.36Terminatorbye all
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12:30.11sussudio~lart toiletboy
12:40.12Secret_Hamsterhuh
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13:00.47sussudio:-P
13:01.29sussudioclueless people, lesson #1:
13:01.31sussudio"Fucker (Rogue): joining as a tank"
13:01.44sussudiochange your callsign "Fcker"
13:02.01Secret_HamsterPS sussudio got my server going
13:02.05sussudio*kick*
13:02.35Secret_Hamsterfound out what was wrong
13:02.43sussudio"Iamthegame: fuck your mother"
13:02.46sussudio*ban*
13:02.49sussudiohmmk
13:03.14Secret_Hamsterudp connections start at the same number as the tcp
13:03.23sussudiohmm so
13:04.40Secret_Hamsterso you need connections -p and -pr on tcp and at least -p on udp
13:04.55Secret_Hamsteri should write a howto on this
13:05.30sussudiohmm k
13:06.11Secret_Hamsterhum lunchtime here bbl
13:36.32[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
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14:00.28[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
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14:52.12[TeA|TrEE]helo
14:52.28Mayhemhi
14:53.45[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
14:59.52bzgirl~sud
14:59.57Shut Up, Doug.
15:02.51[TeA|TrEE]lol
15:03.04[TeA|TrEE]~sud
15:03.05Shut Up, Doug.
15:03.08[TeA|TrEE]aah
15:03.09[TeA|TrEE]:)
16:09.07Secret_Hamstersurely easier just to say "Shut Up, Doug." ?
16:09.17[TeA|TrEE]hehe
16:09.17Secret_HamsterOr is there a significance
16:09.21[TeA|TrEE]ddunno
16:09.26[TeA|TrEE]hows your server going
16:09.49Secret_HamsterWorks fine now.  playing round with a script to start it up and stuff
16:11.33[TeA|TrEE]hehe
16:12.14Secret_HamsterWere you there when we discovered what it was
16:12.41[TeA|TrEE]with chestal and u i was on the ctf server from u
16:13.09Secret_Hamsterso many people tried to help I forget who was who in the end
16:13.28Secret_HamsterI remember Chestal being there.  fiberchunks was helping at one point
16:14.05Secret_Hamsteranyway it goes great guns.  just need to find out how much bandwisth it consumes and resources it takes
16:14.32Secret_HamsterPlus need to tune the options and the map a little
16:14.56Secret_HamsterThink I'm gonna take out the obese flag
16:15.09[TeA|TrEE]i like helping testing the server and playingf a bit hehehehehe
16:15.26bzgirlyes...NO OBESE flags please
16:15.31Secret_Hamsterlol everyone loves being a games playtester
16:15.46Secret_Hamsterwell it kinda can screw you on my map
16:16.06Secret_Hamsterif the antidote flag is not in your section you can't join in properly
16:16.08[TeA|TrEE]and i love maps were alot of secrets and adventure is in it
16:16.24[TeA|TrEE]iif you know wwhat i mean
16:16.34Secret_Hamsterahh, my map is simple.  Hopefully promoting teamplay
16:16.52Mayhemits very tactical.  how many shots have you got it set on
16:17.36Secret_Hamsterahh well i think too many > 10
16:17.49Secret_Hamsteri'm gonna bring it down, but not sure to what
16:18.02Secret_HamsterI was thinking arourn 3-5
16:18.12bzgirlnot 2?
16:18.19Mayhemthe lower you set it the more challenging it is
16:18.22Secret_HamsterPlus adding more cover in
16:18.40Secret_Hamsterwell the challenging bit is getting across a bridge
16:18.40Mayhem2 might be good for us ducati players :)
16:18.50bzgirli know :)
16:18.58[TeA|TrEE]hehe :)
16:19.00Secret_HamsterI want to see nice suicidal charges across it
16:19.11[TeA|TrEE]secret put 4 on to that map
16:19.15[TeA|TrEE]ore 3
16:19.16MayhemI was thinking the teleporter shield makes it pretty tough
16:19.22[TeA|TrEE]and 3 sec reload time
16:19.29Secret_Hamsterso the other side has to have enough rounds to make it deadly
16:19.37Secret_HamsterYou guys seen the map?
16:19.45Mayhemlets do some testing :)
16:19.47bzgirlwhere is it?
16:20.02Secret_Hamster81.96.173.201:17200
16:20.18[TeA|TrEE]i cant
16:20.20Secret_Hamsterred or green I'm red atm
16:20.21[TeA|TrEE]no time sorry
16:20.27[TeA|TrEE]in 5 min maybe
16:32.00Mayhemhehe, that was fun
16:32.06[TeA|TrEE]lol
16:32.19bzgirlits a fun map
16:32.20Secret_Hamsterokay so we think, take out the obese flag and set to two shot
16:32.25Secret_Hamstershots
16:32.27Mayhemyep
16:32.31bzgirlyeah
16:32.39Mayhemdo you really want superflags at all?
16:32.51Secret_Hamsterthe only thing I worry about two shots is.  Is it gonna make the bridge deadly enough
16:32.52bzgirlbe very good 10 vs 10
16:33.11Secret_Hamsteryou reckon 10 aside
16:33.14Secret_Hamsterheez
16:33.16Mayhemyeah, you need a couple of people to defend the bridge
16:33.49bzgirlyou'll need a few to defend the bridge and some more on the other entrance
16:33.52Mayhemalthough I made it across with just Secret_Hamster defending, with 10 shots
16:34.01bzgirl:)
16:34.06Secret_Hamsterthat's what I planned then the rest on attack
16:34.26bzgirlyes, so atleast 6 palyers per side maybe?
16:34.34Secret_Hamsterhum unless I put teleporters on the river bank doors
16:34.38Mayhemits just like counterstrike :)
16:34.39Secret_Hamsterthen I can stop the jumping
16:34.41[TeA|TrEE]lol
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16:35.18Secret_Hamsterhow do you set reload time?
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16:35.24bzgirlit looks like it will be a low scoring map anyway, long flag battles
16:35.28Mayhemthe jumping could be way too lethal with a few defenders... a slope would be good :)
16:35.48bzgirlnot sure if reload time can be set
16:35.54bzgirldont think so
16:36.06Mayhemif you actually reached the enemy base you could jump into the river and run for home that way
16:36.22bzgirlthats a big "if" :)
16:36.34Secret_Hamsteryea want to put abit more cover in
16:36.42Secret_Hamsternot sure where or what though
16:36.49Mayhemmaybe some cover *on* the bridge?
16:36.57Secret_HamsterAs I said it's all about game play
16:37.04Mayhemadvanced firing positions
16:37.08[TeA|TrEE]lets have a nother game in 10 min oire so
16:37.13[TeA|TrEE]2 vs 2
16:37.21Mayhemk
16:37.22bzgirlits pretty good though as is I think
16:37.52Secret_HamsterMayhem: yea I was think like a little bunker or dead motocycle or something
16:37.52bzgirlburned out tank
16:37.55Mayhemyeah, we just need to get more players on to try it out
16:37.59Mayhembzgirl: :)
16:38.05Secret_HamsterI pruposefully kept it simple.  i have a crap graphics card.  On some maps I drop below 20fps
16:38.10[TeA|TrEE]yeah
16:38.18[TeA|TrEE]lets try first 2 vs 2
16:38.47[TeA|TrEE]ok guys
16:38.51[TeA|TrEE]lets have a short round
16:38.57[TeA|TrEE]bzgirl ?
16:39.00[TeA|TrEE]Mayhem ?
16:39.01Secret_Hamsterokay let me kill it and restart it
16:39.02Mayhemok, coming
16:39.06[TeA|TrEE]Hamster?
16:39.07bzgirlok
16:39.12[TeA|TrEE]ok
16:39.29[TeA|TrEE]81.96.173.201:17200
16:39.59bzgirlits not up
16:40.03Secret_Hamsterhold on knacked my script
16:40.19Secret_Hamsterwhats the flag for the obese flag?
16:40.26Mayhemi cant connect :)
16:40.27[TeA|TrEE]huch?
16:40.35MayhemOB?
16:40.41[TeA|TrEE]put 1 stealth flag in
16:40.44[TeA|TrEE]hehe
16:40.44Secret_Hamsteryea reseting it
16:41.12Mayhemsay when
16:41.13[TeA|TrEE]no gms in ctf
16:41.15[TeA|TrEE]that sucks
16:41.55bzgirlO is obesity
16:42.00Secret_Hamsterdonut I put a zero instead of a capital "o".  okay tis running
16:42.01[TeA|TrEE]iiih ugly
16:42.11[TeA|TrEE]ok c ya there
16:42.14[TeA|TrEE]im red
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17:05.57Mayhemhmm, back to the drawing board I think :)
17:06.17Secret_HamsterI was wondering take out the stairs
17:06.30Secret_Hamsterput in a teleporter instead
17:06.34Mayhemthey are a bit hard to get up
17:06.41Mayhemyou need a quicker way back to the banks
17:06.47Secret_Hamsterputs you at the far end of the river bank
17:07.00Secret_Hamsteror alternatively make the steps longer
17:07.13Mayhemthe battle over the bridge didn't really happen, more dogfighting in the river
17:07.37Secret_Hamsteryea getting up the stairs hampered it
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17:07.58Secret_Hamsterif you use a teleport it'd be dead easy
17:08.09[TeA|TrEE]hhe
17:08.11[TeA|TrEE]hehe
17:08.11bamfhola
17:08.14[TeA|TrEE]bamf hello
17:08.15[TeA|TrEE]:)
17:08.18bamfhi tea
17:08.22Secret_Hamsterdo we need more cover in the riverbed area
17:08.24Mayhemhi bamf
17:08.27[TeA|TrEE]but thos things where u can shoot throw are super
17:08.30[TeA|TrEE]realy good thought
17:08.36bamfhi mayhem
17:08.36Secret_HamsterI also think a one more round would help
17:08.39[TeA|TrEE]like a little base
17:08.56[TeA|TrEE]you could do quite a realistic army base
17:08.58Secret_Hamsteryea, pure bit of inspiration that ws
17:09.48Secret_Hamstersimply a telport with the far side linked.  the near side you can shoot stright through
17:10.23Secret_HamsterI'm gonna put the map on my website so others can download it.  Or is there a more public place?
17:10.32Rembohi bamf
17:10.44Rembon i just send an e-mail about the challenge, and the policy
17:10.54RemboHmmm no "n" :)
17:11.02bamfn?
17:11.04bzgirlhi Rembo
17:11.09Rembosend to all "n"
17:11.21bamfi see
17:11.30Secret_Hamsterthe other thing I wann do is stop the jumping
17:11.59Mayhemyeah, no jumping is better
17:12.00bzgirlSecret_Hamster: the map is great i think
17:12.16Secret_Hamsterthanks first attempt at ANY map
17:12.17Mayhemdunno if you can have an elevated map without jumping though
17:12.26bamfyes you can
17:12.27Mayhemsorry, elevated *base*
17:12.40Secret_Hamsterthat's why I was thinking the teleporters
17:12.42bamfyou just can't have flags on buildings without jumping
17:12.54Mayhemok, teleporters should be fine
17:13.05bamfi had a map with no jumping, strictly teleporters to various levels
17:13.16Secret_Hamsterbamf is that a rule in the server, or a simply design rule
17:13.32Secret_Hamsterbamf, got a copy of it somewhere so I can look
17:13.47bamfinherent in the code, bzfs will fail if you try to disable jumping and have flags on buildings set
17:13.56Secret_Hamstershit
17:14.02bamfmaybe it was changed in 17g0, not sure
17:14.23Secret_Hamsterneed the flags on buidlings because of the bases
17:14.30Secret_Hamsterit's a ctf map
17:14.36bamfi have a ctf map like that
17:14.53Mayhemthe code tries to prevent you doing something silly
17:14.59bamfno jumping, flags are in buildings at bottom, but you need to get to the top via teleporters to get the flags
17:14.59Secret_Hamsterwell I suppose I could have a go and see what happends
17:15.52bamfthe other way around it is to put your bases high enough, so the player can't jump up there, has to use teleport
17:16.05bamfif you'd like, I can send you my map and show you how I did it
17:16.13Secret_Hamsteryea just gonna se if you can use -fb without -j
17:16.25bamfas of 17e6, you couldn't do that
17:16.35bamfmaybe it's changed with 17g0
17:17.06Secret_Hamsteryea if you set -fb it drops the bases down to Z = 0
17:17.23bamfstinks
17:17.30bamfadd it to the wish list
17:17.31[TeA|TrEE]lol
17:17.42Mayhemwould be easy enough to change... could do it myself
17:17.50[TeA|TrEE]i think you shoudl put up a vote to some server
17:17.55[TeA|TrEE]wer u can vote which map
17:18.05bamfgo to stats.bzflag.org and download my ctf elevation map
17:18.13Secret_Hamsteri know noodleroni has a thumbs up/down thing
17:18.14Mayhembut its supposed to stop unplayable layouts
17:18.27Secret_Hamstersurely your gonna figure that
17:18.36[TeA|TrEE]can u make a world and do a server with windows ?
17:18.42bamfyes
17:18.57[TeA|TrEE]cool
17:19.03[TeA|TrEE]i dont understand bzedit
17:19.08bamfi don't use it
17:19.13bamfi use a text editor
17:19.17bamfquicker for me
17:19.19Secret_HamsterI use bzedit, quite nice actually
17:19.21Patlabor221what's not to understand :)
17:20.02bamfi use it to get a few different objects and then just copy/paste/alter in a text editor
17:20.03[TeA|TrEE]i dont no how do build walls
17:20.05[TeA|TrEE]....
17:20.09[TeA|TrEE]i dunno ;)
17:20.19Patlabor221boxes you mean?
17:20.28Patlabor221you using windows or linux?
17:20.57[TeA|TrEE]#!name FakeWall
17:20.58[TeA|TrEE]box
17:20.58[TeA|TrEE]position 0 0 0.01
17:20.58[TeA|TrEE]rotation 0
17:20.58[TeA|TrEE]size 30 30 9.99
17:20.58[TeA|TrEE]end
17:21.02[TeA|TrEE]i love those
17:21.10Patlabor221ohhh the bug walls
17:21.12[TeA|TrEE]i use windows
17:21.20[TeA|TrEE]Hamster ?
17:21.36Patlabor221just enter that data into the box fields
17:21.47Secret_Hamsteryea
17:22.05[TeA|TrEE]there u go
17:22.05Secret_Hamsterahh right the fake wall
17:22.09[TeA|TrEE]yes
17:22.10[TeA|TrEE]:)
17:22.20bamfafk
17:22.37Secret_Hamsteryou cn't fire through it though yea
17:22.42Secret_Hamsteror can you
17:24.15Secret_Hamsterbum, need to rething the map
17:24.42Secret_Hamstersee you later tea-time here
17:25.20[TeA|TrEE]nope
17:27.19Secret_Hamsteractaully I've had another idea.  Extensive use of teleporters, and build platfroms up to the bridge.  no jumping
17:27.36Secret_Hamsterwell, i'm off to cook tea
17:27.42[TeA|TrEE]bye then
17:27.44[TeA|TrEE]:)
17:27.53[TeA|TrEE]i dunno with no jumoing yet
17:28.00[TeA|TrEE]i would think about it on that lvl
17:28.30Hamster_AFKyea, need to fine tune this.  need more shots, abit more cover and restirct a few more flags
17:28.38Hamster_AFKsee you
17:29.41[TeA|TrEE]4 shots i think
17:29.44[TeA|TrEE]would be ok
17:29.44[TeA|TrEE]:)
17:41.28ak|rahuhu
17:41.50[TeA|TrEE]huhu
17:42.36ak|racry
17:42.38ak|racry2
17:42.38ak|racry3
17:44.12[TeA|TrEE]?
17:44.19[TeA|TrEE]oooh
17:44.27[TeA|TrEE]ehering?
17:45.11ak|ranein, ich trage einfach so einen ring am daumen, vollsilber, angeschwaerzt, duester, 2 ebenen, sehr klobig und gross
17:45.25ak|raund der ist mir heute beim schneeballen mit weggeflogen
17:46.14[TeA|TrEE]sauber
17:47.49ak|rascheisse
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18:23.51moepmoepmoep
18:24.03moepmoephehe
18:31.35[TeA|TrEE]hehe
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19:20.43Celllo
19:21.13Cellwow, my map looks great in cipher engine
19:21.53Cellreally cool to use
19:22.32Celland the support staff told me how i can make a C# wrapper for the engine
19:24.13Cellbecause they dont thing c# is bad for games
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19:27.54Cellsomeone can tell me the url of a working irc proxy
19:46.36patlabor221cipher?
19:47.42Cell<PROTECTED>
19:48.20Cellthey have all you can dream of, the cool max exportesr are great
19:49.34[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
19:50.17Secret_Hamster[TeA|TrEE]: you still here
19:50.27Secret_Hamsterbeen thinking about the map
19:50.49patlabor221it's comercal
19:50.51[TeA|TrEE]yes
19:50.55[TeA|TrEE]im here
19:51.01[TeA|TrEE]whats up Hamster ?
19:51.03Cellpatlabor221: yes but evaluation is free
19:51.11Secret_Hamsterinstaed of the internal steps gonna create a part of the wall that's "fallen down"
19:51.22Secret_Hamstermake it easier to get up
19:51.24Celland i am evaluating
19:51.31Secret_Hamstermay even add two
19:51.54[TeA|TrEE]aaah
19:51.57[TeA|TrEE]thats better
19:52.10Secret_Hamsteralso had the idea to add a small island and a ship, to create more cover in the river section
19:52.27[TeA|TrEE]good idea
19:54.17[TeA|TrEE]hmm?
19:55.01Secret_Hamsterwish you could rotate the blocks on the vertical rather than just the horizontal
19:57.07[TeA|TrEE]jep
19:57.14[TeA|TrEE]which os are u on scret hamster
19:58.21Secret_Hamsterwell Linux mostly.  My client is w98 atm.  hoping to go Linux at the weekend
20:01.10[TeA|TrEE]:)
20:01.19[TeA|TrEE]shall we test the new map?
20:01.51Secret_Hamsternot don't it yet.  Only just finished tea.  Plus I've had three glasses of wine
20:02.01Secret_Hamsterneed 4 before I can start coding
20:02.05Secret_Hamster;)
20:02.07[TeA|TrEE]lol
20:02.15Secret_Hamstergive me 20mins
20:02.23[TeA|TrEE]sure
20:04.50[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
20:07.05[TeA|TrEE]~blabla
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20:09.05[TeA|TrEE]moep
20:09.08Fantahi
20:09.13[TeA|TrEE]Tach Herr Zee
20:09.31Fantaund, wie is ?
20:10.27Fantaich geh wiede nach ducati
20:10.53[TeA|TrEE]ach
20:10.57[TeA|TrEE]frechheit
20:11.00[TeA|TrEE]soll ich auch
20:11.01[TeA|TrEE];)
20:17.48Secret_Hamster[TeA|TrEE]: well just amended on half of the wall
20:18.26[TeA|TrEE]?
20:18.32[TeA|TrEE]shall we start ?
20:18.37[TeA|TrEE]call me tea
20:18.38[TeA|TrEE]:)
20:19.26Secret_Hamsterjust as easy to call you [TeA|TrEE] i have autocomplete
20:19.58[TeA|TrEE]shall i go on server?
20:20.05Secret_Hamsterlet me just edit the file bzedit screes up on the bases
20:20.29[TeA|TrEE]tel me when
20:21.17Secret_Hamsterbastard it's earsed them
20:21.28[TeA|TrEE]?
20:22.18[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
20:23.54Secret_Hamsterokay ready
20:23.58[TeA|TrEE]ok
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20:28.26Secret-Squirrel[TeA|TrEE]: you still there my bzclient is dying on me
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20:28.34MardyCiao
20:28.39[TeA|TrEE]there?
20:28.40Mardyibot ducatictf
20:29.04[TeA|TrEE]well when i join i have to kill bz throw strg + alt + del
20:29.07[TeA|TrEE]have probs
20:29.07Secret-Squirrelevery time I try to connect my bzclinet dies
20:29.22Secret-Squirrelhum something is very wrong
20:29.38Secret-Squirrellet me restart the server
20:30.47[TeA|TrEE]me too
20:31.06Secret-Squirrelnope it's buggered
20:31.14Secret-Squirrellet me look at the file
20:31.17Secret-Wheeezlehehehe
20:31.18Secret-Squirrellol
20:33.49Secret-Squirrelnope i see nothing wrong?
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20:35.17Ruudihi
20:35.31Secret-Wheeezlehohoho
20:35.52Secret-Wheeezleteatree
20:35.52Secret-Wheeezlehere
20:35.53Ruuditeabush
20:36.48Secret-Wheeezleyeah
20:36.49Secret-Squirrelshit I see nothing wring
20:40.03Secret-Squirrelwell my PC is screwed need to reboot
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20:42.06Secret-Wheeezleha
20:42.09Secret-Wheeezlestrayer
20:42.11Secret-Wheeezlehuhu
20:42.15Secret-WheeezleTeA here
20:42.35homehehe...hi tea
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20:43.38Secret-Wheeezlehehehe
20:44.13Secret_Hamsterfuck fuck fucktitty fuck fuck
20:44.31homebehave
20:44.57Secret_Hamsterit's all going wrong
20:45.21homewhat....why?
20:45.31bzgirlanyone know what opens winzip files in linux? i tried gunzip and gzip -d
20:45.42captain_protonbzgirl: 'zip' and 'unzip'
20:46.17Secret_Hamstermy wonderful map is dying and taking the clients with it
20:46.31bzgirlcaptain_proton: i'll have to apt get them, dont have either
20:46.52Secret_Hamsterthere is a gnome utility too. can't remeber it's name
20:47.00vogonfile-roller.
20:47.23vogonbzgirl: apt-get install zip unzip.
20:47.27Secret_Hamsterziptool I believe it's called
20:47.41Secret_Hamsterokay lets try again
20:47.53home:)
20:47.57homegood luck
20:48.26Secret_Wheeezle?
20:48.52bzgirlvogon: didnt know you can install more than one at a time, isnt Debian wonderful? :)
20:48.56Secret_Hamsternope dead
20:49.02Secret_Hamsterargggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggh
20:49.34vogonbzgirl: yep.
20:49.37Secret_Wheeezlemoep
20:49.38Secret_Hamsterit's all your fault Secret_Wheeezle
20:49.43Secret_Wheeezlehey
20:49.49Secret_Wheeezlelol
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20:49.53Secret_Wheeezlewhy is it my fault now
20:49.57Secret_Wheeezlehello mandy
20:50.02Secret_WheeezleTeATrEE here
20:50.03mandyhello :)
20:50.08mandylong time
20:50.22Ruudihi
20:50.31Secret_Hamsteryou complained. everyone else said it was good.  now I've changed it and it's gone pear-shaped
20:50.33mandyhello ruudi
20:50.54Secret_Wheeezlewhaaaaat ?
20:51.03Secret_Wheeezlei didnt complane
20:51.05Secret_Hamsteroh piss forgot to back it up too
20:51.06Secret_Wheeezlelol
20:51.20Secret_Wheeezlenow it all my fault lol
20:51.25Secret_Wheeezlemoep moep
20:51.30Secret_Wheeezlefrechheit
20:51.34homehaha
20:52.07Secret_Wheeezle:PPP
20:52.17homeSecret_Wheeezle: why Ur 'interesting' nick?
20:52.17Secret_Wheeezleschau lieber das du mal nen match gegen uns gewinnst
20:52.25home:p
20:52.27Secret_Wheeezle:P
20:52.34homegestern  haben wir eins gewonnen :ppp
20:52.37Secret_Wheeezleich ärger grad secret hamster
20:52.44Secret_WheeezleUNOFFICal :PPP
20:52.45homeviel spass dabei
20:52.50Secret_Wheeezleauserdem war ich ned dabei hehe
20:52.52Secret_Hamsterexcellent your saved.  i did back it up
20:52.53homena und?!?...bäh
20:53.08Secret_Wheeezlehehe hamster
20:53.23mandylalala
20:53.37vogonblargh.
20:53.55vogonyou know what sucks about realloc()?  the fact that it gives you no indication of its failure.
20:53.57Secret_Hamsterblar blargh be-blargg
20:54.13Secret_Wheeezlemandy hehe
20:54.17Secret_Wheeezleyou oberver ;)
20:54.21Secret_Wheeezleobserver
20:54.25mandy=\
20:54.29mandylol
20:55.14homedu?
20:55.20mandylol
20:56.38mandylol you ok
20:56.41Secret_Hamsterokay panic over A bridge to far is back
20:56.57Secret_Hamsterthe file must be corrupt
20:57.11Secret_Hamsters/be/have been
20:57.30Secret_Hamsterokay backup and try again
20:57.36Secret_Wheeezle;))
20:57.58mandylol
20:57.58homehaha...
20:58.24mandyi'm not cuddling wit that nasty thing
20:58.28mandywith*
20:58.34Secret_Wheeezlegrr
20:58.38mandy:)
20:58.47Secret_Wheeezlewheeezle ;)
20:59.02Secret_Wheeezle;)))))
20:59.07mandylol
20:59.14Secret_Hamsteranyway server back on line
20:59.27Secret_Hamsterediting version 1.1 map
20:59.38mandy=\
21:00.09mandyuh no
21:00.14Secret_Hamstersomeone say bitme
21:00.17Secret_Hamstersomeone say biteme
21:00.34Secret_Wheeezle;)
21:00.35Secret_Wheeezlelol
21:01.35mandylol
21:05.41Secret_Wheeezlehamster ?
21:05.50Secret_Hamsterhum
21:05.51mandybleh?
21:05.57homebye all....
21:06.01Secret_Wheeezlehey u little fluff ball
21:06.07Secret_Hamsterserver dea again
21:06.11Secret_Wheeezle:(((
21:06.14Secret_Hamsters/dea/dead
21:06.16mandybye strayer
21:06.19Secret_Hamsteror you bored
21:06.49home:)
21:06.50Secret_Wheeezle~ducatictf
21:09.23mandybleh bleh bleh
21:09.37Secret_Wheeezlemoep
21:09.47mandy:)
21:10.10mandymy tree :)
21:10.17[TeA|TrEE]hehe
21:10.22[TeA|TrEE]i have new logo
21:10.32[TeA|TrEE]http://www.bzflag.org/league
21:10.34[TeA|TrEE]quite funny
21:10.37Secret_Hamsterbum bzedit has gone screwy on me
21:11.03mandyhmm
21:11.04[TeA|TrEE]haha
21:11.11captain_protonSecret_Hamster: what os/version?
21:11.21[TeA|TrEE]win 98
21:11.23[TeA|TrEE]he has
21:11.57Secret_Hamsteri want my Linux install back :(
21:12.08[TeA|TrEE]you cant talk
21:12.19[TeA|TrEE]your head is gon
21:12.20[TeA|TrEE]e
21:12.22[TeA|TrEE]hehehe
21:12.40Secret_Hamsterwhat team
21:12.43mandydon't cry
21:13.00[TeA|TrEE]?
21:13.03[TeA|TrEE]me ?
21:13.14mandyare you the one crying?
21:13.17mandylol
21:13.36[TeA|TrEE]noooooo
21:13.37Secret_Hamsteri really am beginning to get tired of windows
21:13.43[TeA|TrEE]<Secret_Hamster> what team
21:13.47Secret_Hamstermy Linux machine was so stable
21:14.01Secret_Hamster[TeA|TrEE]: yea so i can see you logo
21:14.02Patlabor221so install it again
21:14.17Secret_Hamsteri have no spare drive capacity
21:14.26Patlabor221throw away the porn
21:14.35Secret_Hamsteri've only got a 2.1GB for my main machine
21:14.45[TeA|TrEE]The Lengandary ZeeBrothers
21:14.51[TeA|TrEE]Lengendary
21:15.00Secret_Hamsterand unfortuenly I need windows for a few things
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21:15.21captain_protonsup Patlabor221
21:15.29Patlabor221hey
21:15.30[TeA|TrEE]hello raika
21:15.32ak|rahi
21:15.38Patlabor221it's COLD here :(
21:15.45[TeA|TrEE]<PROTECTED>
21:16.11Secret_Hamsteroh very good logo seen mine
21:16.21[TeA|TrEE]no
21:16.25[TeA|TrEE]which team hehe
21:16.27[TeA|TrEE]no team
21:17.01Secret_Hamsteryea no team.  too useless to join a team
21:17.07captain_protonPatlabor221: you'll like this - the artist lady i recruited decided she wants to try modelling an anime look
21:17.21Patlabor221you still haven't shown me a pict
21:17.38[TeA|TrEE]lol
21:17.41[TeA|TrEE]coool logo
21:17.47Patlabor221she should look at some of TomWoofs stuff on TurboSquid, it's got a nice style
21:18.13captain_protoni'm waiting on a pic of the actual character, until now she was working on a practice character to try to get the eyes
21:18.16captain_protonright
21:18.30Patlabor221still I want to see :)
21:18.43captain_protonhttp://dementia.driftkids.com/album_view.php?id=36 <-- practice char
21:19.22[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
21:19.48Patlabor221nice, but a bit high on the old poly count.
21:19.58captain_protonits all NURBS
21:20.06captain_protonso we'll be able to apply our surface calculations to it
21:20.29Patlabor221well to hold that detail, you'll have a lot of tri's in the end
21:20.42captain_protontrue
21:21.09captain_protonbut its gonna be a while until this is anywhere near done, so graphics cards will have caught up ;)
21:21.35Patlabor221http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/154402/Action/FullPreview
21:21.40Secret_Hamsterhum fgured I may know what the bzedit problem is!  I'm running samba.  I've noticed problems with do line endings occasionally
21:21.52Secret_Hamsters/do/DOS
21:22.04[TeA|TrEE]what is that computer girl?
21:22.26Patlabor221it'sa model
21:22.36[TeA|TrEE]animated ?
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21:22.40Chestalnow my browser took so long to launch that I totally forgot why I started it in the first place
21:22.51Patlabor221I think they are all boned and read for anims
21:26.35[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
21:27.20captain_protonPatlabor221: i think we'll be ok in terms of tris - scanline created a...unique...priority function that looks really good
21:29.00Patlabor221ahhh
21:29.08captain_protonworks good? damn
21:29.12captain_protonworks really well
21:29.39captain_protonoh wait - looks good not works good
21:29.42captain_protonok, yeah, good
21:30.09Patlabor221one of these days you'll get your englich down
21:30.15captain_protonindeed
21:31.28captain_protonits really pretty impressive how many tris can be drawn at a high framerate
21:31.48Patlabor221if they are sent to the card right, a lot can be done
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21:36.23[TeA|TrEE]moep
21:36.31mandymy tree :)
21:36.54[TeA|TrEE]hehe
21:36.56captain_protoni wonder if its possible to charm the hardware fairies at nvidia into free cards :)
21:37.00[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
21:37.05Secret_HamsterI'm giving up tonight
21:37.06[TeA|TrEE]lol
21:37.11Secret_Hamsterdarn bzedit
21:37.15Secret_Hamsterworked fine before
21:37.29Secret_Hamsternow it just screws the file up or something
21:38.23Secret_Hamstergonna look at it tomorrow
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21:38.27Secret_Hamstersee you then
21:44.58[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
21:45.19mandyo0o 33
21:47.13mandybr
21:47.14mandybrb*
21:50.43mandyback
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21:51.52mandywelcome back pat
21:52.24patlabor221ty
21:52.49mandyyep
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22:09.44[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
22:09.59[TeA|TrEE]harr harr
22:10.05mandymy tree :)
22:10.11mandy33 :)
22:10.49[TeA|TrEE]hehe
22:10.52[TeA|TrEE]?
22:10.55[TeA|TrEE]33?
22:11.04mandyw339
22:11.09mandy33
22:11.10[TeA|TrEE]aaah
22:11.13[TeA|TrEE]339
22:11.13[TeA|TrEE];)
22:11.16[TeA|TrEE]moep
22:11.51mandy:)
22:12.37mandyyep
22:13.18mandylalala
22:13.43[TeA|TrEE]lalala
22:13.52mandy:)
22:17.18mandybleh :(
22:17.28[TeA|TrEE]moep :(
22:17.38mandy:(
22:18.04[TeA|TrEE]:s
22:18.25mandy...
22:19.04[TeA|TrEE]........
22:19.14mandyhmm
22:19.18[TeA|TrEE]intresting conservation
22:19.20[TeA|TrEE]lol
22:19.28mandyyep
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22:24.07[TeA|TrEE]hello
22:25.10mandybleh
22:25.15[TeA|TrEE]bloeh
22:25.21mandyhehe
22:26.09[TeA|TrEE]:)
22:26.26mandylol :)
22:27.05[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
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22:27.29[TeA|TrEE]reeee arika
22:28.46ak|rare
22:31.09mandylalala
22:31.24[TeA|TrEE]lalalalala
22:31.38mandylalalalallaalalala
22:31.41mandy:)
22:31.50[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
22:32.01[TeA|TrEE]moep
22:32.12victorvdlI think #bzflag need an improvement in the general intelligence level of its users... ;-)
22:32.22mandyhehehe
22:32.24mandylol
22:32.44vogonvictorvdl: "... needs an improvement ..."
22:32.56vogonvictorvdl: mind your conjugations.
22:33.33victorvdlvogon: Yea, ok... Still, I'm more coherent then the majority of people in here... :-D
22:34.03vogontrue enough.
22:36.54[TeA|TrEE]lol
22:48.57mandyla...la...la
22:49.03[TeA|TrEE]lalalalalal
22:49.07[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
22:49.09mandyhehe
22:49.25[TeA|TrEE]:(
22:49.33mandywhats wrong?
22:50.34[TeA|TrEE]nothing#
22:50.49mandywaiting for some1?
22:53.30[TeA|TrEE]nope
22:53.36mandyoh
22:53.41mandyhmm
22:53.51mandyyep
22:53.51[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
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