| 00:12.57 | ak|ra | hehe |
| 00:25.53 | captain_proton | ARGH! |
| 00:28.05 | ak|ra | :) |
| 00:29.51 | scanline | fec? |
| 00:30.17 | captain_proton | i've been on the phone all day trying to track down a -license- for cc |
| 00:32.19 | scanline | hahaha |
| 00:32.24 | scanline | wacky |
| 00:33.04 | captain_proton | right now its running on an evaluation license, but its not actually running because i lack this random program |
| 00:33.12 | scanline | ha |
| 00:33.24 | scanline | time to install gentoo on it :) |
| 00:33.35 | captain_proton | gentoo won't run mediabase |
| 00:34.01 | ak|ra | captain_proton: :) |
| 00:34.06 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:35.30 | scanline | captain_proton: I got them vertex normals working |
| 00:35.57 | scanline | and now I think I'm about to procrastinate some homework a bit more by rewriting Surface completely |
| 00:36.49 | captain_proton | scanline: purdy |
| 00:37.02 | captain_proton | scanline: the texture is repeating too much - scale it up a bit |
| 00:37.13 | scanline | well, the texture needs replacement |
| 00:37.19 | scanline | bye |
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| 02:40.21 | MrApathyCream | Houston: I have a problem. |
| 02:40.40 | MrApathyCream | Hmmm, for some reason my bullets are hugh coming out of my tank |
| 02:41.02 | MrApathyCream | i did lower my refresh rate down to 72 |
| 02:41.10 | MrApathyCream | I did reconnect as another color |
| 02:42.21 | bzdoug | noooo |
| 02:42.21 | bzdoug | its: This is houston, we have a problem |
| 02:42.58 | bzdoug | you simply toast |
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| 02:53.06 | bzdoug | 'lo |
| 02:54.40 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 02:59.41 | MrApathyCream | jzaun: the sb bullets are nice, altho i suppose they weaken the sb as a weapon |
| 03:00.02 | MrApathyCream | (players get a warning, that they are unsafe as OO or PZ |
| 03:00.17 | MrApathyCream | so not sure |
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| 06:12.43 | MrApathyCream | doobeedoo |
| 06:27.31 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: not just Tiny? bullets look huge when you are. |
| 06:28.04 | MrApathyCream | went away now... was really odd |
| 06:28.11 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: I plan to start migrating 1.8 network changes over to 1.7 in january. Too mush going on during the holidays to spend real time on it. |
| 06:28.27 | MrApathyCream | right out of my muzzle they were quarter screen size |
| 06:28.40 | BZFlag | that's about right for tiny |
| 06:29.04 | MrApathyCream | wasn't tiny... but never noticed the tiny effect |
| 06:30.01 | MrApathyCream | ru doing the whole new v1_9 branch thing, or just staying with 1.7 |
| 06:32.23 | BZFlag | I'd like to copy everything back to HEAD and then move to 1.9 or something. |
| 06:32.44 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: you'd prefer we all just mothball it till jan, i take it then? |
| 06:33.36 | BZFlag | well, I'd like to get mac and irix out, etc. |
| 06:33.57 | MrApathyCream | does eddienull know he's needed? |
| 06:34.15 | BZFlag | I think so, but a ping in that direction would be nice. |
| 06:34.21 | BZFlag | ~seen eddienull |
| 06:34.26 | | i haven't seen 'eddienull', BZFlag |
| 06:34.46 | MrApathyCream | he does respond to mac bugs, but i haven't seen him here for a while |
| 06:34.53 | BZFlag | crs was online for the interview, but never joined here. =( must be busy lately. |
| 06:35.02 | MrApathyCream | yes i saw |
| 06:35.22 | MrApathyCream | wow! you never did, that's amazing |
| 06:35.26 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:35.31 | MrApathyCream | i would have thought you were buds |
| 06:37.02 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag; I take it that Mac is only MaxOSX now? as opposed to the old os? |
| 06:37.23 | BZFlag | yeah, I assumed as much for many other projects. I'm finding it's the norm these days. Many development teams have never met face to face. |
| 06:37.35 | BZFlag | you could be a 10yr old girl for all I know. ;-) |
| 06:37.43 | MrApathyCream | tehe |
| 06:38.00 | MrApathyCream | how did you become maintainer, then? |
| 06:38.01 | BZFlag | Mac 8,9 might still work, but nobody has tried. |
| 06:38.30 | BZFlag | just kept feeding patches to crs till he got sick of it and asked me to take over. |
| 06:38.35 | MrApathyCream | heh |
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| 06:39.30 | BZFlag | my goal is now is not to get in the way. If I ever feel like I'm hindering instead of helping it will be time to hand it off to someone else. |
| 06:39.43 | BZFlag | s/is now/now/ |
| 06:40.08 | MrApathyCream | well, that's clearly not happening |
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| 06:40.30 | MrApathyCream | the dev pool is too small as it is |
| 06:40.41 | vogon | we're capable enough of hindering our own progress. |
| 06:40.45 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 06:40.48 | BZFlag | hehe |
| 06:41.12 | vogon | the only MUD approved by The Computer. |
| 06:41.17 | BZFlag | I got an SGI Indy and a Mac 7500 here now, I'd like to get to the point where I can compile/test those as well. |
| 06:41.28 | BZFlag | MUD? |
| 06:41.34 | BZFlag | ~mud |
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| 06:41.56 | BZFlag | ibot MUD is MultiUser Dungeon |
| 06:41.58 | | BZFlag: okay |
| 06:42.25 | vogon | MrApathyCream: hah. is that actually you? |
| 06:42.30 | MrApathyCream | in da flesh |
| 06:43.28 | MrApathyCream | taken at our 50th wedding anniversary (MrsApathyCream cut/off to the right) |
| 06:43.32 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: I just can't picture you that way. |
| 06:43.42 | MrApathyCream | sorry |
| 06:43.55 | MrApathyCream | you can picture me as a 10yr old girl, if you like |
| 06:44.16 | BZFlag | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/Bill-Tim.jpg <- that one's more believable. |
| 06:44.36 | MrApathyCream | long lost brother, no? |
| 06:45.08 | BZFlag | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.jpg <- who did that? |
| 06:45.27 | MrApathyCream | noodleman |
| 06:46.09 | BZFlag | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/mystery.jpg <- and who's this funny looking guy? |
| 06:46.21 | vogon | meh. |
| 06:46.21 | vogon | needs a gerbil on the cover. |
| 06:46.30 | MrApathyCream | that would be prot |
| 06:46.41 | BZFlag | prot? |
| 06:46.46 | MrApathyCream | the capn |
| 06:46.50 | BZFlag | ah |
| 06:56.59 | hardwire | isn't prot the name Kevin Spacey had in K-Pax? |
| 06:57.20 | MrApathyCream | something like that |
| 06:58.00 | patlabor221 | suposed to be any G3 or better |
| 06:58.23 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, MrsApathyCream has a G3-less iMac |
| 06:58.39 | MrApathyCream | just as well, she'd slap me around if i infiltrator her machine |
| 06:58.44 | patlabor221 | how can that be, I thought all Imacs were G3's |
| 06:58.51 | patlabor221 | what's in it? a 604? |
| 06:58.59 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, dunno, lemme see |
| 06:59.07 | MrApathyCream | was the first iMac i think |
| 06:59.16 | patlabor221 | shoudl be a 400 G3 then I think |
| 06:59.34 | MrApathyCream | MrsApathyCream is quite the cutting edge type gal |
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| 07:01.25 | MrApathyCream | 233 G3 |
| 07:01.48 | patlabor221 | there you go |
| 07:01.57 | patlabor221 | just get OOOOOODDDLES of ram |
| 07:02.04 | MrApathyCream | osx compatible, then? |
| 07:02.12 | BZFlag | should be |
| 07:02.12 | patlabor221 | I think so |
| 07:02.56 | MrApathyCream | oooof the mrs, has 96M of ram |
| 07:03.24 | MrApathyCream | Hey sweetums, i gonna spoil ya by buying 512m and a 50g hd, just cause i love ya |
| 07:03.39 | MrApathyCream | never mind what i put in this folder, k? |
| 07:04.18 | MrApathyCream | ---i don't think so--- |
| 07:04.35 | MrApathyCream | Earlier i was fussin, cause the bullets were big. |
| 07:05.11 | MrApathyCream | I get it back to normal, she walks by and goes, ah-ha! crisis averted, your bullets are normal, we can go out now!!! ****rats**** |
| 07:09.17 | MrApathyCream | patlabor221: when's bzedit gonna ship? |
| 07:10.39 | patlabor221 | I've only had one real bug reported |
| 07:10.42 | patlabor221 | so soon |
| 07:11.01 | patlabor221 | proalby fix it tomrow and make a 1.6 release |
| 07:12.47 | MrApathyCream | wassa link? |
| 07:13.30 | patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/ |
| 07:17.07 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/greenskin.png |
| 07:17.12 | patlabor221 | how'm I' doin? |
| 07:18.09 | MrApathyCream | where's the tool tip help? :) |
| 07:18.20 | patlabor221 | non existant |
| 07:18.30 | patlabor221 | no status bar propts ether |
| 07:18.37 | MrApathyCream | no selection handles :) |
| 07:18.52 | patlabor221 | no, right now draging is a farce |
| 07:19.25 | MrApathyCream | how does one delete objects? |
| 07:19.34 | patlabor221 | the remove object button |
| 07:19.43 | MrApathyCream | no right click in element list |
| 07:20.03 | MrApathyCream | which one is that? |
| 07:20.19 | MrApathyCream | ah, i see in the element inspector |
| 07:20.56 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:21.00 | patlabor221 | says remove |
| 07:21.15 | patlabor221 | I am not happy with the add/remove/edit interface |
| 07:21.23 | patlabor221 | but this works |
| 07:21.27 | MrApathyCream | need context menu in element list |
| 07:21.36 | patlabor221 | and on objects |
| 07:22.38 | MrApathyCream | right click view change, while unobvious, is nie |
| 07:22.41 | MrApathyCream | er, nice |
| 07:22.52 | MrApathyCream | what's the bullseye do? |
| 07:23.04 | patlabor221 | centers on selected thingy |
| 07:23.19 | MrApathyCream | hmmm |
| 07:23.50 | MrApathyCream | ah ctrl right click, nice |
| 07:24.31 | MrApathyCream | what's the small blue grid signify? |
| 07:25.34 | patlabor221 | what version do you have? |
| 07:25.43 | MrApathyCream | emm latest i thought? |
| 07:25.46 | MrApathyCream | lessee |
| 07:25.55 | MrApathyCream | .75A |
| 07:26.01 | patlabor221 | ohhhhhhh god no |
| 07:26.13 | patlabor221 | 1.59f6 |
| 07:26.27 | patlabor221 | ftp://ftp.gibbscam.com/pub/outgoing/vizkit/BZE_1.5.9f6_Installer.exe |
| 07:26.28 | MrApathyCream | that's what i clicked, hold on, lemme do it again |
| 07:26.33 | patlabor221 | blue grid is gone |
| 07:26.58 | patlabor221 | I redid the grid and the axis markers |
| 07:27.03 | patlabor221 | no more blue grid |
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| 07:28.35 | MrApathyCream | your web site has link |
| 07:28.36 | MrApathyCream | BZE_1.5.9f6_Installer.exe |
| 07:28.47 | MrApathyCream | goes to -> ftp://ftp.gibbscam.com/pub/outgoing/vizkit/BZE_1.5.9f6_Installer.exe |
| 07:28.56 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:28.58 | MrApathyCream | hmm same |
| 07:29.16 | patlabor221 | need to move that to bakadigital |
| 07:29.24 | patlabor221 | can't host .exe's on artemisgames |
| 07:29.29 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, maybe i had an old one in my download dir and got confused |
| 07:29.32 | patlabor221 | tries to run em :) |
| 07:29.45 | MrApathyCream | ah ok |
| 07:30.15 | BZFlag | why not just host them on the SF site? |
| 07:30.22 | MrApathyCream | apply button, just say no |
| 07:30.36 | patlabor221 | I couldn't think of anything else |
| 07:30.44 | MrApathyCream | live updates from text fields |
| 07:30.54 | patlabor221 | I will have that when I have undo |
| 07:31.03 | patlabor221 | now that's the only way to cancel an edit |
| 07:32.43 | MrApathyCream | did a dup and |
| 07:32.54 | MrApathyCream | then selected the last item, and clicked delete |
| 07:33.00 | MrApathyCream | deleted the wrong one |
| 07:33.08 | patlabor221 | hmmmm |
| 07:33.09 | MrApathyCream | er clicked remove |
| 07:33.23 | MrApathyCream | off by 1 |
| 07:33.32 | patlabor221 | damnit |
| 07:33.41 | MrApathyCream | and can't delete the last one, when all the dups are gone |
| 07:33.59 | patlabor221 | should have the same problems with even non dupes |
| 07:34.00 | MrApathyCream | if you select it in the scene you can |
| 07:34.12 | patlabor221 | it's all the same mechanism |
| 07:34.40 | MrApathyCream | don't like 'translate with rotation' |
| 07:34.58 | MrApathyCream | should have option to transform around a point |
| 07:35.10 | MrApathyCream | does same thing but is easier to understand effects |
| 07:35.13 | patlabor221 | should have lots of things :) |
| 07:35.16 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:35.37 | MrApathyCream | i didn't want you to feel unloved as you only had one report |
| 07:35.52 | patlabor221 | well I think I only have one user :) |
| 07:38.11 | MrApathyCream | ok, here's the remove bug |
| 07:38.14 | MrApathyCream | do a transform |
| 07:38.21 | MrApathyCream | delete the first DUPLICATE |
| 07:38.30 | MrApathyCream | then try to delete the last duplicate |
| 07:38.38 | MrApathyCream | (all selecting in the elements list) |
| 07:41.08 | MrApathyCream | how does one create groups? |
| 07:41.18 | patlabor221 | one does not at this time |
| 07:41.23 | patlabor221 | hence there grayness |
| 07:41.27 | MrApathyCream | ah, now that would be really good |
| 07:41.32 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:41.37 | patlabor221 | it's high on my lst |
| 07:41.41 | MrApathyCream | i tried to get groups into bzfs but BZFlag slapped me around |
| 07:41.50 | MrApathyCream | <just kiddin> |
| 07:42.03 | patlabor221 | I have to redo the internals to allow for multiple slections and such, then I can do them |
| 07:42.46 | MrApathyCream | very nice tho |
| 07:43.05 | patlabor221 | thanks |
| 07:43.51 | patlabor221 | dosn't have a completely cusomizable interface like cap's but I wanted features before prettyness |
| 07:43.56 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:44.16 | MrApathyCream | one thing i never really got was the decision to go with location x y z |
| 07:44.19 | MrApathyCream | size x y z |
| 07:44.25 | MrApathyCream | as opposed to coordinates |
| 07:44.34 | MrApathyCream | makes it kinda hard to do transformations |
| 07:44.37 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 07:44.43 | MrApathyCream | (esp. group trannys) |
| 07:45.00 | patlabor221 | I have the fact that they are even inconsistent in there useage in difrent objects |
| 07:45.01 | MrApathyCream | I had to fight through that with the bzwtransform tool |
| 07:45.09 | patlabor221 | boxes are 2* X wide |
| 07:45.13 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:45.15 | patlabor221 | but 1 * Z high |
| 07:45.18 | MrApathyCream | i never can focus on that |
| 07:45.26 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:45.27 | patlabor221 | and TP's are 1 border hihger |
| 07:45.33 | patlabor221 | and 2 borders wider |
| 07:45.42 | patlabor221 | that pissed me off, trying to figure that out. |
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| 08:17.40 | BZFlag | huh? location x y z size x y z are coordinates, no? what are you asking/saying? |
| 08:17.55 | BZFlag | oh, MAC left. |
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| 08:19.03 | lurgyman | greetings, bipeds! |
| 08:43.32 | BZFlag | lurgyman: sgi luck? |
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| 08:48.53 | patlabor221 | anyone care to comment on this texture/model job? |
| 08:49.18 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/mk3tex.png |
| 08:55.02 | lurgyman | BZFlag: not sure... captain_proton and scanline are off watching SG1 |
| 08:55.40 | lurgyman | patlabor221: better than anything i could do |
| 08:55.43 | lurgyman | night all |
| 08:57.01 | scanline | patlabor221: looks a little flat. model it with beziers |
| 08:57.16 | patlabor221 | it's suposed to be |
| 08:57.29 | patlabor221 | but if I blugerize it, it looks neat :) |
| 09:00.32 | patlabor221 | Hyy I'm up to 250 tri's |
| 09:00.47 | patlabor221 | the origonal was 14 |
| 09:01.33 | patlabor221 | wow, that's impresive |
| 09:01.39 | patlabor221 | came out to 256 tris |
| 09:01.43 | patlabor221 | and I didn't even try |
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| 09:29.21 | ak|ra | moin |
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| 09:44.19 | scanline | captain_proton: they should have used a superconductor in Back to the Future |
| 09:44.58 | vogon | dude, don't diss the flux capacitory. |
| 09:45.01 | vogon | capacitor, even. |
| 09:45.08 | vogon | damn mental autocomplete. |
| 09:45.38 | scanline | but the Stargate is made of a superconducting alloy that helps it absorb any kind of energy- electrical, static, or mechanical! |
| 09:46.42 | captain_proton | scanline: heeeey |
| 09:46.48 | captain_proton | in 2 hours we could go to safeway! |
| 09:46.55 | scanline | hehe |
| 09:47.32 | scanline | motherboard sort of hardware? |
| 09:47.51 | captain_proton | yeah, and laptop-parts sort of hardware |
| 09:48.05 | scanline | nifty sort of hardware |
| 09:48.17 | captain_proton | scanline: harumph, i'm dissapointed. no new jetstream code in the last 2 hours? |
| 09:48.37 | scanline | haha |
| 09:48.45 | scanline | I should think about maybe trying to do this project thingy... maybe |
| 09:48.57 | scanline | or I could have an episode of "fun with icosahedrons" |
| 09:49.56 | captain_proton | i think "fun with continuous-LOD" is a better episode |
| 09:50.31 | captain_proton | although nothing beats "the enemy within" |
| 09:50.34 | scanline | well, they both go hand in hand |
| 09:50.55 | captain_proton | how does diamond have anything to do with icosahedrons? |
| 09:51.30 | scanline | well, I'm going to redo the Surface class so it takes a SurfacePrimitive that defines both a way to refine the mesh when subdividing and a way to generate the initial list of triangles |
| 09:51.53 | scanline | for a planar quad this would be two right triangles, for a sphere it would be an octahedron or icosahedron |
| 09:52.27 | scanline | The current Surface doesn't provide any way to generate this seed mesh, so there would be nothing for Diamond to start with |
| 09:54.35 | captain_proton | i see, i see |
| 09:54.39 | scanline | an octahedron would be nice since it's the simplest surface made of equalateral triangles that has every vertex on the surface of a sphere, but I've seen some pictures of spheres generated from icosahedrons and they have just the right properties to use for terrain |
| 09:54.55 | captain_proton | ohhhh scanline |
| 09:54.58 | captain_proton | hold on to your pants |
| 09:55.03 | captain_proton | Qt 3.1.1 released! |
| 09:55.15 | scanline | oh boy! |
| 09:55.19 | captain_proton | bwahahahahahaha |
| 09:55.21 | vogon | whoa. |
| 09:55.25 | captain_proton | take a look at this java 1.5 code: |
| 09:55.29 | captain_proton | LinkedList<String> stringList = new LinkedList<String>(); |
| 09:55.38 | scanline | java? |
| 09:55.47 | captain_proton | yeeeehaw |
| 09:55.57 | scanline | oh, you should be proud of me.. I used my first recursive STL template today |
| 09:56.05 | captain_proton | they're calling them "generics" instead of "templates" |
| 09:56.16 | scanline | good for them |
| 09:56.27 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.38 | ak|ra | :) |
| 09:56.57 | vogon | man, that code is so totally fun to work with. |
| 09:57.20 | captain_proton | scanline: class ls : public deque<string>, public deque<ls> |
| 09:57.22 | scanline | I did that just because I didn't want to change my little test rig that indexed p like a 2D array.. it was originally a 2D array but I wanted to make it dynamic |
| 09:57.58 | scanline | hehe |
| 09:58.59 | vogon | captain_proton: is there any "right" time to use RTTI? |
| 09:59.09 | captain_proton | vogon: uhh |
| 09:59.12 | scanline | Every time is the right time for RTTI! |
| 09:59.12 | captain_proton | not to my knowledge |
| 09:59.26 | vogon | heh. |
| 09:59.26 | vogon | good. |
| 09:59.28 | vogon | then I'll continue to use my current scheme. |
| 09:59.38 | captain_proton | i used it once when i made a "type-safe" variant class |
| 09:59.49 | vogon | scanline: I have faith in it. |
| 09:59.52 | vogon | scanline: kinda. |
| 10:00.01 | scanline | vogon: good, so I will kinda not grumble at you |
| 10:00.03 | vogon | it'd make my job easier. |
| 10:00.12 | captain_proton | nice save vogon |
| 10:00.12 | vogon | but I hear everyone bitching about it. |
| 10:00.31 | vogon | captain_proton: thankye. |
| 10:01.05 | vogon | the hierarchy I'm currently working on is part of a MUD engine. |
| 10:01.18 | scanline | you mean.. you're not working on jetstream?! |
| 10:01.33 | vogon | scanline: after my modem dropped twice during the svn checkout, no. |
| 10:01.41 | scanline | all the cool kids work on jetstream |
| 10:01.47 | vogon | yeah, but I'm not cool. |
| 10:01.52 | scanline | oh, ok then... |
| 10:02.11 | vogon | and also, I don't feel like setting up pgserver. |
| 10:02.50 | vogon | you damn hippies and your anti-establishment graphics infrastructures. |
| 10:03.18 | scanline | what do you mean by 'setting up'? |
| 10:03.18 | vogon | in my day, we had to walk 10 miles in the blinding snow. |
| 10:03.21 | vogon | both ways. |
| 10:03.23 | scanline | all you have to do is compile it |
| 10:03.29 | vogon | scanline: yeah, but I'm lazy. |
| 10:03.38 | vogon | just to get a Drawable handle. |
| 10:03.40 | vogon | and we liked it. |
| 10:03.45 | scanline | jetstream comes with a file that does the compile-time config, and it doesn't need runtime config |
| 10:03.54 | scanline | heh.. don't get me started on X :P |
| 10:04.26 | vogon | yeah, I've heard your views on /. |
| 10:04.47 | scanline | well, I hate people that hate X for the wrong reasons more than I hate the design of X |
| 10:04.54 | vogon | yeah. |
| 10:05.15 | vogon | do you hate people who say that Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, too? |
| 10:05.20 | scanline | hehe |
| 10:05.21 | scanline | probably |
| 10:05.24 | vogon | rock. |
| 10:05.31 | scanline | I'm mostly apathetic toward Mac stuff... |
| 10:05.44 | scanline | I have an ibook, but I stay away from OS X usually because it's slow as hell |
| 10:13.07 | scanline | vogon: http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/pretty.png |
| 10:13.11 | scanline | you know you want to work on it |
| 10:13.19 | scanline | join the dark side! |
| 10:13.21 | vogon | scanline: give me a tarball of jetstream. |
| 10:13.25 | vogon | scanline: then I will work on it. |
| 10:13.45 | vogon | subversion breaks when your Interweb connection goes down in the middle of a checkout. |
| 10:13.46 | scanline | a tarball won't help much, since by the time you do anything to it, it will be out of date |
| 10:14.14 | scanline | well, I could do a fresh anonymous checkout and I think you could update it from there |
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| 10:15.30 | prodan | hello |
| 10:15.36 | ak|ra | moin prodan |
| 10:15.41 | prodan | ducati anyone? |
| 10:15.49 | ak|ra | not me |
| 10:15.52 | ak|ra | not now |
| 10:16.00 | prodan | sniff |
| 10:16.08 | prodan | entzug |
| 10:16.22 | scanline | wow, I didn't realize the repository was so big... almost 20MB after bz2'ing |
| 10:17.12 | scanline | vogon: ok, it's uploaded |
| 10:17.16 | scanline | http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/jetstream-snapshot-20021212.tar.bz2 |
| 10:18.09 | vogon | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.34 | scanline | funfun |
| 10:18.50 | scanline | after you have that it shouldn't take much bandwidth to keep it updated |
| 10:19.12 | vogon | cool. |
| 10:21.19 | vogon | and until then, time to rip out this half-assed solution, and replace it with dynamic_casts. |
| 10:21.22 | scanline | you'll need a couple libraries for it... most notably Boost.Python and libpgserver |
| 10:21.39 | vogon | scanline: got boost.python already. |
| 10:22.02 | scanline | ok. you'll need something more recent than the release of picogui, but there are tarball CVS snapshots |
| 10:22.19 | captain_proton | vogon: hey, can you spot me a license key for cc? |
| 10:22.32 | scanline | and the picogui repository isn't quite as big as jetstream |
| 10:22.39 | vogon | captain_proton: Candy Cruncher? |
| 10:22.45 | captain_proton | C Compiler |
| 10:22.54 | vogon | ah. |
| 10:23.21 | scanline | gamers? silly people... |
| 10:23.24 | vogon | scanline: dude, don't mock Candy Cruncher. |
| 10:23.31 | vogon | scanline: well, they're Linux gamers. |
| 10:23.39 | vogon | scanline: so they're silly, masochistic, and delusional. |
| 10:23.41 | captain_proton | scanline: gamers get such great looks on their faces when you outclass them though... |
| 10:23.47 | scanline | indeed |
| 10:24.04 | scanline | especially when real programmers demo to gamers-pseudo-programmer-wannabes |
| 10:24.19 | scanline | vogon: jetstream has been getting us some fun looks from the local game development club :) |
| 10:24.38 | vogon | scanline: hah. |
| 10:25.21 | scanline | captain_proton: I'm anxious to see what Til spun it into |
| 10:25.32 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 10:25.51 | captain_proton | vogon: non-elastic physics engine! |
| 10:26.14 | scanline | "Due to Mr. Hexar's high quality Bresenham line tutorial, Micah and David implemented a wireframe terrain engine" |
| 10:26.26 | captain_proton | hahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 10:26.48 | captain_proton | Mr. Hexar.... |
| 10:26.49 | captain_proton | hahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 10:26.54 | scanline | =) |
| 10:27.19 | vogon | captain_proton: maybe. |
| 10:27.36 | vogon | oh, well. |
| 10:27.46 | vogon | there's a first time you use anything. |
| 10:28.06 | ak|ra | :) |
| 10:30.01 | scanline | I'm still extremely disgusted by how huge jetstream's binary is already |
| 10:30.10 | scanline | about 5MB... for maybe 5000 lines of code |
| 10:30.27 | vogon | are you stripping symbols? |
| 10:30.30 | scanline | I blame templates |
| 10:30.36 | scanline | no, that's without stripping |
| 10:30.47 | ak|ra | scanline: use g++3.21 |
| 10:30.51 | ak|ra | scanline: use g++3.2.1 |
| 10:30.54 | scanline | ak|ra: I am |
| 10:30.58 | ak|ra | ah |
| 10:31.01 | ak|ra | still huge? |
| 10:31.04 | scanline | uh huh |
| 10:31.19 | vogon | scanline: strip it. |
| 10:31.42 | vogon | scanline: if you make use of any of the STL or any C++ features more complicated than operator overloading, your unstripped binaries will be huge. |
| 10:31.43 | scanline | vogon: I know stripping makes it smaller, but that's huge even for unstripped |
| 10:32.13 | scanline | ok.. it went from 7MB to 500k.. still huge |
| 10:32.20 | vogon | heh. |
| 10:32.20 | scanline | 500k for 5000 lines of code is astronomical |
| 10:32.29 | vogon | true. |
| 10:32.49 | scanline | I blame templates |
| 10:32.51 | scanline | :) |
| 10:33.04 | vogon | as do I. |
| 10:33.22 | ak|ra | its the templte thing :) |
| 10:34.40 | captain_proton | scanline: its just 100 bytes per line of code.... ;-) |
| 10:35.08 | scanline | what efficient compression, especially for blank lines! |
| 10:35.15 | captain_proton | hmm scanline |
| 10:35.21 | vogon | that's between, like, 20 and 100 instructions. |
| 10:35.29 | captain_proton | til's spin won't talk about terrain |
| 10:35.39 | captain_proton | since he hadn't seen that as of the time he talked with the author |
| 10:36.00 | vogon | hmm. |
| 10:36.00 | scanline | ah, true.. it might talk about a flat space ship on some flat grass |
| 10:36.12 | vogon | I need to be kept awake for up to 17 hours. |
| 10:36.21 | vogon | I have no caffeine. |
| 10:36.22 | captain_proton | but at least the pictures will be pretty |
| 10:36.43 | captain_proton | vogon: keep a sharp pencil by you at all times - whenever you feel yourself dozing off, stab yourself in the hand |
| 10:36.45 | scanline | should be really sweet once we can represent multiple types of terrain, and model a good sky |
| 10:36.56 | vogon | captain_proton: excellent idea. |
| 10:36.59 | scanline | I find a screwdriver works better for that |
| 10:37.17 | vogon | at least I'll soon have jetstream to kill time with. |
| 10:37.20 | scanline | the blood just makes a mess.. with a screwdriver you can take off quite a bit of skin without any blood |
| 10:37.28 | captain_proton | scanline: sharpening the pencil gives him something to concentrate on, which will take his mind off sleeping |
| 10:37.53 | scanline | http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2002/20021125l.gif |
| 10:38.30 | vogon | 28% [=========> ] 5,591,609 4.42K/s ETA 51:09 |
| 10:38.35 | vogon | whee! |
| 10:38.39 | scanline | hehe |
| 10:38.59 | captain_proton | hrmph |
| 10:39.05 | captain_proton | gotta get up in 6 hours |
| 10:39.12 | captain_proton | which means its time for sleepyness |
| 10:39.16 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 10:39.18 | scanline | good night |
| 10:39.20 | vogon | nn, prot. |
| 10:40.01 | vogon | grr. |
| 10:40.07 | vogon | damn you, xirssi. |
| 10:40.13 | vogon | no font selection. |
| 10:40.26 | vogon | IRC SHOULD NOT BE IN A PROPORTIONAL FONT, DAMN IT. |
| 10:41.42 | captain_proton | :( |
| 10:41.59 | vogon | captain_proton: it's only down for 350 kilobytes. |
| 10:42.00 | captain_proton | vogon: quick, link me to ODE |
| 10:42.06 | vogon | captain_proton: plus the time it takes me to get back on IRC. |
| 10:42.14 | scanline | can't it resume? |
| 10:42.15 | vogon | http://q12.org/ode |
| 10:42.24 | vogon | scanline: it can. |
| 10:42.38 | vogon | I only lost about 2 minutes of download time. |
| 10:42.45 | captain_proton | "ODE is a free, industrial quality library for simulating articulated rigid body dynamics" |
| 10:42.53 | captain_proton | that sounds like elastic physics, not non-elastic ;) |
| 10:42.57 | vogon | meh. |
| 10:43.20 | scanline | they have some nice demo videos of legged critters hopping about |
| 10:43.27 | scanline | though you can see some collision detection errors |
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| 10:44.54 | captain_proton | ok, now i'm actually going to sleep |
| 10:44.59 | scanline | bye again |
| 10:45.01 | captain_proton | scanline: n64 ;) |
| 10:45.06 | scanline | mmm |
| 10:45.10 | vogon | later, prot. |
| 10:45.43 | vogon | used to, but no longer. |
| 11:08.21 | ak|ra | http://www.linuxpackages.net/ -> place 1 |
| 11:12.35 | vogon | 2 penguins? |
| 11:12.35 | vogon | wtf? |
| 11:16.34 | vogon | 76% [===========================> ] 14,816,982 4.25K/s ETA 17:52 |
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| 12:18.28 | ak|ra | moin bomber_ |
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| 12:42.06 | brotMachine | hi |
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| 13:02.19 | bzgirl | moin ak|ra |
| 13:02.25 | ak|ra | hello girl |
| 13:11.45 | ak|ra | bomber_: buch ist angekommen :) thanx a lot |
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| 15:08.37 | ak|ra | hello mac |
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| 15:45.25 | _Alton_ | hallo, i am wondering how the smtp service is finding the ip of the mail receiver? |
| 15:45.48 | _Alton_ | ipls help |
| 15:47.17 | vogon | each domain has something called an MX record. |
| 15:47.22 | _Alton_ | lets say my friend has the email address friend@yahoo.com, how do i know the smtp server i should deliver the mail |
| 15:47.35 | vogon | that specifies which servers are authorized to take mail for that domain. |
| 15:47.54 | _Alton_ | k |
| 15:48.34 | _Alton_ | how do i get the MX record? |
| 15:48.59 | vogon | _Alton_: are you on Linux or Windows? |
| 15:49.05 | _Alton_ | windows |
| 15:49.28 | vogon | don't know, in that case. |
| 15:49.37 | _Alton_ | and on linux? |
| 15:50.12 | vogon | bash-2.05a$ host -t MX yahoo.com |
| 15:50.12 | vogon | yahoo.com MX 5 mx4.mail.yahoo.com |
| 15:50.12 | vogon | yahoo.com MX 1 mx1.mail.yahoo.com |
| 15:50.12 | vogon | yahoo.com MX 1 mx2.mail.yahoo.com |
| 15:50.39 | _Alton_ | oh, thanks |
| 15:50.53 | vogon | no prob. |
| 15:52.27 | _Alton_ | the host command, what does it do to get that info? |
| 15:53.36 | vogon | it queries the domain's DNS servers. |
| 15:53.54 | _Alton_ | how does it know that servers ip? |
| 15:54.28 | vogon | by resolving it with that server's DNS server. |
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| 15:55.23 | _Alton_ | on what port? |
| 15:55.48 | _Alton_ | does the DNS server offer its service? |
| 15:56.49 | ak|ra | re |
| 15:56.52 | Chestal | 53 aka domain |
| 15:58.36 | _Alton_ | and what is the protokoll type? |
| 16:01.08 | Chestal | DNS on top of either udp or tcp |
| 16:04.16 | _Alton_ | Invalid query type: MX |
| 16:04.16 | _Alton_ | bash-sunhalle1:~ $ |
| 16:05.25 | _Alton_ | bash-sunhalle1:~ $ host -t MX yahoo.com |
| 16:05.58 | _Alton_ | vogon: seems not to work for me |
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| 16:07.34 | _Alton_ | Chestal: how can i do the MX lookup with nslookup command? |
| 16:08.00 | _Alton_ | i tried but dont get it right |
| 16:08.32 | rooter | i think i've found a 1.7g0 bug... |
| 16:08.42 | ak|ra | truly? |
| 16:09.13 | rooter | if i'm in a game and go to options->gui.. i get stuck... |
| 16:09.33 | rooter | it won't let me pres esc and get back into the game |
| 16:09.45 | rooter | i have to play with all the options in front of me:) |
| 16:09.46 | Chestal | alton: works for me |
| 16:10.08 | _Alton_ | ok it works now |
| 16:15.42 | ak|ra | bomber_: huhu? |
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| 16:16.16 | bzdoug | HO HO HO!!! TIS THE SEASON TO BE JOLLY |
| 16:17.00 | bzdoug | whats my host name? |
| 16:17.11 | bzdoug | it should say when I connected |
| 16:17.13 | ak|ra | 216.135.68.133 |
| 16:17.20 | bzdoug | it gave a ip? |
| 16:17.21 | bzdoug | darn |
| 16:17.42 | bzdoug | ~nslookup 216.135.68.133 |
| 16:17.48 | bzdoug | bah |
| 16:18.07 | bzdoug | oh well, I will take its word for it |
| 16:18.16 | vogon | bash-2.05a$ host 216.135.68.133 |
| 16:18.16 | vogon | 216.135.68.133 does not exist, try again |
| 16:18.21 | vogon | fake. |
| 16:18.42 | vogon | to quote UNIX, "you don't exist. go away." |
| 16:19.05 | SPU-KCAB | lol |
| 16:19.14 | SPU-KCAB | there we go, nobody knows who I am |
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| 16:43.51 | bomber_ | akira: haha |
| 16:44.15 | ak|ra | bomber_: das buch ist angekommen :)) |
| 16:44.22 | ak|ra | :o)) |
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| 16:47.47 | Terminator | hi all |
| 16:51.08 | ak|ra | ghi |
| 16:51.20 | Terminator | ghi? |
| 16:51.33 | Terminator | is anyone not busy? |
| 16:51.56 | Terminator | ak|ra? |
| 16:52.12 | Terminator | bzgirl? |
| 16:52.17 | Terminator | [TeA]-? |
| 16:52.22 | Terminator | [dmp]? |
| 16:52.32 | Terminator | and so on |
| 16:54.38 | ak|ra | i am on ducatoi 5155 |
| 16:54.47 | Terminator-[Away | oh c ya there |
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| 17:18.31 | Terminator | nhi pat |
| 17:18.48 | Terminator | bye pat |
| 17:18.48 | Terminator | nlol |
| 17:18.52 | Terminator | nc ya l8r |
| 17:19.04 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 17:19.05 | Terminator | hmm i was just playing bz |
| 17:19.14 | Terminator | maybe that explains the n's |
| 17:19.18 | Terminator | oh hi |
| 17:19.30 | Terminator | and bye |
| 17:19.34 | patlabor221 | bye |
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| 17:33.38 | bomber_ | akira:das ist gut |
| 17:33.46 | bomber_ | bye to all |
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| 17:57.50 | sussudio | g0 is really lagging under windows with cached maps |
| 18:00.32 | ak|ra | bye |
| 18:08.32 | jzaun | I just got the flashplayer 6 beta for linux... I love the Taken site... worth the install :-) |
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| 18:17.52 | Terminator | hi all |
| 18:18.08 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 18:18.31 | Terminator | hmm my bro hasn't compiled 1.8 yet |
| 18:18.38 | Terminator | but i have vorbs lib |
| 18:18.55 | Terminator | just waiting for him ti compile |
| 18:19.49 | Terminator | i gonna check ducati |
| 18:21.29 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/ |
| 18:23.37 | jzaun | patlabor221: They gonna be a new vehicle choice in BZF? |
| 18:24.09 | patlabor221 | perhaps that would be one use of it |
| 18:24.37 | patlabor221 | tho it's not designed to fire a single shot out the center |
| 18:26.09 | sussudio | can someone compile a win32 executable of g0 with the flagToggle patch? |
| 18:27.32 | sussudio | snort. |
| 18:27.52 | patlabor221 | and I can't find the ones that MAC allways says he uses |
| 18:28.09 | sussudio | :-| |
| 18:28.09 | patlabor221 | search on SF fro diff utils returns all kinds of crap |
| 18:28.33 | patlabor221 | can you send me the diffed files? |
| 18:28.52 | sussudio | they're on my linux partition |
| 18:30.10 | sussudio | i dont know which ones are patched...... 8 or 9 files |
| 18:30.24 | sussudio | and it only works with the unmodified g0 source, not cvs |
| 18:30.42 | patlabor221 | ick |
| 18:46.20 | Terminator | back |
| 18:59.23 | [TeA]- | 04,01=14,1L07,01=15,1o08,01=0,1O07,01=15,1p04,01=14,1S4= |
| 19:03.18 | BZFlag | [TeA]-: ugh, avoid the colors here, k? |
| 19:06.05 | Terminator | howd he get the colours? |
| 19:11.12 | BZFlag | Terminator: found em on the 2s3t3r4e5e6t7? |
| 19:11.31 | Terminator | don't torment me |
| 19:11.37 | BZFlag | ~fishslap me for violating my own rule |
| 19:11.40 | | ACTION slaps bzflag up side the head with a wet fish for violating my own rule |
| 19:11.49 | Terminator | lol |
| 19:12.06 | Terminator | brb |
| 19:12.06 | BZFlag | heh. %C1 etc sets colors in most IRC clients. |
| 19:12.16 | Terminator | ok |
| 19:12.39 | BZFlag | ~color |
| 19:12.51 | Terminator | ibot colour? |
| 19:12.53 | | Terminator: are you smoking crack? |
| 19:13.08 | Terminator | ibot color |
| 19:13.10 | | Terminator: I give up, what is it? |
| 19:15.50 | Terminator | i still haven't got to level 5 on http://www.miniclip.com/boomboom.htm |
| 19:18.46 | patlabor221 | you realy want to see animated boobs that bad? |
| 19:18.54 | Terminator | lol |
| 19:19.00 | Terminator | nah |
| 19:19.15 | patlabor221 | do a search on kaza for hentai that will get you boobs. |
| 19:19.18 | Terminator | today is the first time i played it since i last mentioned it |
| 19:31.39 | snyke | hmm |
| 19:31.52 | snyke | BZFlag: hmm, I think there is a kind of bug in BZFlag |
| 19:32.12 | Terminator | like what? |
| 19:32.24 | snyke | hm? |
| 19:32.45 | Terminator | in what version |
| 19:33.51 | snyke | ehhmm |
| 19:33.53 | snyke | second |
| 19:34.05 | Terminator | no i mean lik 1.7g0? |
| 19:34.13 | snyke | hm |
| 19:34.15 | Terminator | g2g |
| 19:34.17 | snyke | yes there is appears also |
| 19:34.35 | snyke | hm. I stop talking if nobody reads ;) |
| 19:34.52 | sussudio | why you talk like yoda, snyke |
| 19:35.29 | snyke | okay I write my problem and you do what you want with it |
| 19:35.35 | snyke | I have *hehe* windoze version of bzflag |
| 19:36.53 | snyke | and if I switch back to the desktop *while* playing, the screen refresh rate increases |
| 19:37.04 | snyke | can only be solved with killing bzflag |
| 19:37.40 | snyke | -> had to reset my system with tft because the tft just said "wrong frequency" and stopped displaying =) |
| 19:45.49 | SPU-KCAB | how do I see if a windows 2000 server has its file sharing service running? |
| 19:46.28 | sussudio | SPU-KCAB: why don't you wait while i get a large bat to tell you |
| 19:46.41 | SPU-KCAB | ? |
| 19:46.56 | sussudio | no hacker wannabe shit here, doug |
| 19:47.26 | SPU-KCAB | I want to know if my file sharing thing is working |
| 19:47.34 | sussudio | no, it's not |
| 19:47.43 | Terminator | hacker is actuall the proper term for a good programer |
| 19:47.53 | Terminator | cracker r the ones that do bad things |
| 19:47.55 | SPU-KCAB | ok, how do I fix it? |
| 19:48.15 | sussudio | that was bollocks |
| 19:49.08 | BZFlag | ~colortest |
| 19:49.10 | | colortest is probably 2c3o4l5o6r7t8e9s10t |
| 19:50.02 | sussudio | microsoft decided they don't have to prompt me anymore to install their xml shit |
| 19:51.46 | sussudio | A security vulnerability has been identified that could allow an attacker to compromise a Windows-based computer and gain complete control over it. The attacker would need the ability to log onto the computer to carry out an attack. You can help protect your computer from this specific vulnerability by installing this update from Microsoft |
| 19:52.04 | sussudio | :-P |
| 19:52.30 | sussudio | you still want to install your sharing services doug |
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| 19:53.28 | _Alton_ | hi patlabor |
| 19:55.19 | Terminator | %c1 hello |
| 19:55.22 | _Alton_ | the quake levels are drawn from back to front after sorting the bsp tree, but how does this fit together with materials assigned to faces? |
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| 21:04.31 | SPU-KCAB | ~country .to |
| 21:04.31 | | it has been said that country .to is tonga |
| 21:04.41 | SPU-KCAB | hm |
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| 21:22.50 | patlabor221 | why do they thing I know about quake levels? |
| 21:23.19 | patlabor221 | tho sadly I do know :) |
| 21:23.26 | SPU-KCAB | lol |
| 21:23.27 | sussudio | that'll teach you to reply to noobs. |
| 21:23.32 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:23.36 | patlabor221 | tech support geene |
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| 21:59.34 | [dmp] | ibot ducati |
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| 22:28.43 | sussudio | ok, i put the flagToggle patched files in http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/bzflag/patched/ the patch is in there too |
| 22:29.30 | captain_proton | hey...just noticed we're #4 in most active sf projects |
| 22:29.50 | vogon | we were beating SF itself for a while. |
| 22:29.58 | captain_proton | aha, no wonder. 1600 downloads on the 10th |
| 22:30.20 | patlabor221 | eeryone DLing the g0 version |
| 22:30.44 | captain_proton | sussudio: post on sf |
| 22:31.03 | patlabor221 | cap he just needs it built |
| 22:31.19 | sussudio | why? |
| 22:31.19 | captain_proton | oh |
| 22:31.23 | sussudio | it's on there already |
| 22:31.30 | captain_proton | sussudio: i don't see it |
| 22:31.39 | sussudio | yeah, you have to friggin search |
| 22:31.46 | sussudio | like half an hour. |
| 22:31.50 | captain_proton | ohh i'm blind |
| 22:31.54 | captain_proton | this?: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=651233&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 22:32.03 | sussudio | *shrug( |
| 22:32.17 | sussudio | it only patches against unmofied g0 |
| 22:32.20 | sussudio | not cvs |
| 22:33.20 | patlabor221 | building now |
| 22:33.37 | patlabor221 | cap did you see my latest atempt at a texture map? |
| 22:34.12 | captain_proton | patlabor221: nope |
| 22:34.15 | patlabor221 | sussudio you jsut need the BZFlag.exe right? |
| 22:34.28 | patlabor221 | cap: http://www.bakadigital.com/screamers/ |
| 22:34.56 | patlabor221 | gahh woudl help if I built release |
| 22:35.33 | captain_proton | patlabor221: looks ok |
| 22:36.12 | sussudio | yeah |
| 22:36.16 | patlabor221 | seems I am rememberin all that artsy fartsy stuff the taught me in college. |
| 22:36.48 | captain_proton | http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/perlin-noise-test5-highres.avi |
| 22:37.12 | patlabor221 | hsussudio http://wwwbakadigital.com/bz/go/bzflag1_7G0-FP.zip |
| 22:37.53 | sussudio | hm. |
| 22:38.20 | patlabor221 | cap:I get an error on that movie |
| 22:38.26 | captain_proton | patlabor221: got divx5? |
| 22:38.36 | patlabor221 | I should have it |
| 22:38.40 | SPU-KCAB | me too |
| 22:38.54 | sussudio | that link doesnt work |
| 22:39.27 | patlabor221 | gahh I can't type today |
| 22:39.27 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/bz/g0/bzflag1_7G0-FP.zip |
| 22:39.51 | sussudio | mkay |
| 22:40.11 | patlabor221 | forgot a . and made a 0 an o :( |
| 22:40.18 | SPU-KCAB | lol |
| 22:40.19 | patlabor221 | that's just the exe |
| 22:40.36 | sussudio | k i'm under debian now |
| 22:40.41 | patlabor221 | LOL |
| 22:40.48 | patlabor221 | well I tried |
| 22:40.51 | sussudio | under screen on another pc, actually |
| 22:41.59 | patlabor221 | ohh cap: I have some better skyboxes for you |
| 22:42.12 | captain_proton | http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/high_res-perlin-noise-test5.png |
| 22:42.13 | patlabor221 | don't have that crap jpeg articats |
| 22:42.19 | captain_proton | patlabor221: we're not going to need skyboxes ;) |
| 22:42.22 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 22:42.29 | patlabor221 | well I saw you used one in your demp |
| 22:42.33 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 22:42.45 | captain_proton | thats just because we don't have planet-sized worlds and atmospheres yet |
| 22:43.05 | SPU-KCAB | we dont? |
| 22:43.12 | captain_proton | no we don't |
| 22:43.13 | patlabor221 | roam implementaion thera? |
| 22:43.25 | captain_proton | no roam yet |
| 22:43.38 | captain_proton | we're actually going to use a derivative of roam - an algorithm called 'diamond' |
| 22:43.38 | SPU-KCAB | when will bzflag have voice chat support? |
| 22:43.42 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:43.50 | patlabor221 | when you hook it up :) |
| 22:43.53 | captain_proton | makes it very easy to do large triangle strips |
| 22:43.57 | SPU-KCAB | arg |
| 22:44.19 | patlabor221 | there are third party voice chats that should work now |
| 22:44.28 | SPU-KCAB | yea... |
| 22:44.35 | SPU-KCAB | but thats beside the point |
| 22:44.48 | patlabor221 | geting cross plat on a sound recorder woudl be "interesting" to say the least |
| 22:44.59 | patlabor221 | at least as long as open AL don't support it |
| 22:45.04 | SPU-KCAB | would be cool to blast music out of your tank and have everybody nearby to hear it |
| 22:45.18 | patlabor221 | I would find that horibly anoying |
| 22:45.25 | patlabor221 | and a mega bandwith hog |
| 22:45.54 | patlabor221 | that would make it unplayable to anyone on a dialup |
| 22:46.05 | SPU-KCAB | they can turn it off |
| 22:47.34 | patlabor221 | current CVS dosn't even support a streamable audio format |
| 22:48.03 | SPU-KCAB | hehe |
| 22:48.20 | SPU-KCAB | it will soon have ogg right? |
| 22:48.23 | captain_proton | SPU-KCAB: it all depends on finding someone willing to do it - and right now, we're all busy doing other things :) |
| 22:49.08 | SPU-KCAB | hmm, but 1.8 has it... couldnt you rip it out and cram it into 1.7? |
| 22:49.09 | SPU-KCAB | :P |
| 22:49.29 | patlabor221 | it could be done yes, |
| 22:49.46 | captain_proton | 1.8 is significantly different from 1.7 - it would be a lot of work |
| 22:49.52 | patlabor221 | but there are other things that would proalby be better done, then sillyness things, like all the cheating. |
| 22:49.58 | SPU-KCAB | hum |
| 22:50.07 | lurgyman-class | hmmm... http://128.138.2.123:3000/documents/pixmaps/nasa.jpg |
| 22:50.49 | SPU-KCAB | hmmmm |
| 22:51.03 | patlabor221 | ha |
| 22:51.35 | SPU-KCAB | in other news: teacher resigns and moves to cambodia |
| 22:51.38 | patlabor221 | nasa's secret plan to kill our nations female educators |
| 22:52.35 | lurgyman-class | nasa's press department... they know exactly what stories to release at exactly the right times |
| 22:53.07 | SPU-KCAB | yes! |
| 22:54.20 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 22:55.58 | lurgyman | hmm, and it's still up on news.google.com |
| 22:57.59 | sussudio | ~fart |
| 23:22.57 | lurgyman | I am still known as lurgyman |
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