| 00:00:03 | patlabor221 | cap: no its are realy good recording all 22 min of it |
| 00:00:04 | bryjen | DMCA |
| 00:00:10 | Risolino | i'd like to turn when my ship flies.. |
| 00:00:12 | bryjen | alphabet soup |
| 00:00:17 | captain_proton | Risolino: hmm, lots |
| 00:00:17 | Risolino | *my car |
| 00:00:31 | captain_proton | Risolino: there -may- be a flag to do that, but not likely |
| 00:00:53 | Risolino | is it difficult to implement? |
| 00:01:05 | Risolino | In file included from LinuxPlatformFactory.cxx:16: |
| 00:01:05 | Risolino | XWindow.h:38: libusb.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:01:13 | Risolino | damn... |
| 00:01:16 | captain_proton | sounds like libusb isn't installed quite right |
| 00:01:19 | Risolino | i've to compile it in /home |
| 00:01:35 | bryjen | didn't get devel package with headers perhaps? |
| 00:01:48 | Risolino | could be |
| 00:01:55 | Risolino | check |
| 00:01:57 | bryjen | or not including the dir they're in? |
| 00:02:02 | Risolino | i'll check |
| 00:02:44 | Risolino | include/usb.h |
| 00:02:57 | Risolino | the name is different |
| 00:03:03 | Risolino | it's not libusb |
| 00:03:12 | Risolino | mmm |
| 00:03:15 | bryjen | captain_proton: auto-confiscate sounds like something the RIAA or MPAA wants your computer to do to to certain files...... |
| 00:03:47 | captain_proton | bryjen: heh |
| 00:04:12 | Risolino | lib/libusb-0.1.so.5 |
| 00:04:12 | Risolino | lib/libusb-0.1.so |
| 00:04:18 | captain_proton | all my mp3's are legal and any movies i happen to have downloaded are on cd, not my disk ;) |
| 00:04:26 | Risolino | the include file is usb and not libusb |
| 00:04:31 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:05:16 | captain_proton | try symlinking the header |
| 00:05:27 | patlabor221 | cap: he was geting the error in XWindows.h that's not even a bz file |
| 00:06:00 | patlabor221 | perhaps he has the wrong headers |
| 00:06:15 | captain_proton | patlabor221: src/platform/XWindow.h |
| 00:06:28 | captain_proton | Risolino: ahh, hmm |
| 00:06:36 | captain_proton | #ifdef __FreeBSD__ |
| 00:06:36 | captain_proton | #include <libusb.h> |
| 00:06:36 | captain_proton | #else |
| 00:06:36 | captain_proton | #include <usb.h> |
| 00:06:36 | captain_proton | #endif |
| 00:06:38 | patlabor221 | I'll never understand why headers are put in dirs that say src |
| 00:07:04 | captain_proton | patlabor221: because its not a bz-wide header |
| 00:07:20 | captain_proton | patlabor221: src/platform is only used in bzflag, so why put the header in include? |
| 00:07:34 | patlabor221 | multiple inc dirs |
| 00:07:43 | patlabor221 | just confusing to me that's all |
| 00:07:45 | patlabor221 | I see why |
| 00:08:02 | captain_proton | omg |
| 00:08:06 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:08:10 | captain_proton | my friend who wrote this pong has been doing too much perl |
| 00:08:27 | captain_proton | #define die(str) (fprintf(stderr, "%s at line %d of %s\n", str, __LINE__,__FILE__), exit(1),0) |
| 00:08:33 | captain_proton | SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) >= 0 || die("Can't initialize sdl"); |
| 00:08:42 | patlabor221 | wow |
| 00:09:10 | captain_proton | kinda sickening |
| 00:09:15 | patlabor221 | that is some funk |
| 00:09:28 | Risolino | captain_proton: so...i've to change the sourcecode..right? |
| 00:09:33 | Risolino | that file |
| 00:09:36 | captain_proton | Risolino: yeah, probably best |
| 00:09:56 | captain_proton | Risolino: just change those 5 lines to #include <usb.h> |
| 00:10:02 | Risolino | is the library object the same? |
| 00:10:17 | captain_proton | should be |
| 00:10:44 | captain_proton | does fbsd have a version specific define? |
| 00:10:53 | Risolino | no... |
| 00:10:58 | captain_proton | bleh =| |
| 00:11:31 | Risolino | can you check the exact name of the libusb files? |
| 00:12:07 | Risolino | lib/libusb-0.1.so.5 |
| 00:12:07 | Risolino | lib/libusb-0.1.so |
| 00:12:07 | Risolino | lib/libusb.so |
| 00:12:08 | Risolino | lib/libusb.a |
| 00:12:11 | Risolino | are they? |
| 00:12:30 | captain_proton | /usr/lib/libusb-0.1.so.4 |
| 00:12:30 | captain_proton | /usr/lib/libusb-0.1.so.4.1.1 |
| 00:12:30 | captain_proton | /usr/lib/libusb.a |
| 00:12:30 | captain_proton | /usr/lib/libusb.la |
| 00:12:30 | captain_proton | /usr/lib/libusb.so |
| 00:12:46 | Risolino | mmm..mine is newer.. |
| 00:12:49 | captain_proton | should link with libusb.so |
| 00:13:45 | Risolino | <captain_proton> does fbsd have a version specific define? YES...sorry...i was confused |
| 00:14:05 | patlabor221 | well time to go home and watch office space |
| 00:14:08 | captain_proton | it does? |
| 00:14:13 | captain_proton | whats the symbol? |
| 00:14:42 | patlabor221 | see ya |
| 00:18:45 | Risolino | damn..i've to check the whole port.. |
| 00:18:54 | Risolino | __BSD__ is the symbol |
| 00:19:12 | captain_proton | i mean something specific to fbsd 4.6 |
| 00:19:26 | captain_proton | because older fbsd obviously used <libusb.h> |
| 00:19:58 | Risolino | is FREEBSD4 |
| 00:20:03 | Risolino | yes FREEBSD4 |
| 00:20:15 | captain_proton | no __ ? |
| 00:20:39 | Risolino | yes...with two _ |
| 00:20:49 | Risolino | __FREEBSD4__ |
| 00:21:29 | Risolino | i've to modify the distfile |
| 00:23:13 | captain_proton | goes to update cvs |
| 00:24:30 | Risolino | use the __BSD__ if you want to update |
| 00:25:52 | Risolino | older fbsd use older port |
| 00:27:05 | Risolino | older fbsd use older ports and therefore older sourcecode |
| 00:27:20 | captain_proton | what about update? |
| 00:31:24 | Risolino | captain_proton: you can't update just a port , you have to update all the port collections..it's not a good thing |
| 00:33:32 | Risolino | captain_proton: even in that case, the mantainer has the responsability to add a patch |
| 00:34:24 | Risolino | captain_proton: my opinion is not to change the source code at all.. |
| 00:35:34 | captain_proton | Risolino: might as well change it for future releases, no? |
| 00:38:06 | Risolino | sure |
| 00:38:19 | Risolino | i'll send a patch to the mainteiner |
| 00:38:34 | Risolino | he has to update the port in tree in freebsd-stable |
| 01:19:16 | blackhound | heya |
| 01:19:53 | Widget | hihihi, blackhound. |
| 01:19:57 | blackhound | hi Widget |
| 01:20:39 | Widget | captain_proton: Are you here? |
| 01:21:12 | blackhound | pokes captain_proton |
| 01:21:22 | Widget | CAPTAIN_PROTON!!!!!! |
| 01:22:22 | blackhound | guess not |
| 01:22:36 | blackhound | goes server hoping |
| 01:22:41 | blackhound | bye guys |
| 01:23:18 | captain_proton | i'm here |
| 01:23:42 | Widget | captain_proton: There's a team killer on ducati. |
| 01:23:50 | Widget | captain_proton: According to Schwartzhund. |
| 01:24:12 | captain_proton | which ducati? |
| 01:24:19 | Widget | 5156, I assume. |
| 01:24:22 | iLLf8d | which ducati? |
| 01:24:23 | Widget | He didn't say. |
| 01:24:25 | iLLf8d | I don't see anyone |
| 01:24:26 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 01:24:26 | Widget | ibot: ducati? |
| 01:24:26 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 01:24:39 | captain_proton | only 1 person on ducati 5155 |
| 01:24:45 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de 5155 |
| 01:24:46 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 01:24:50 | iLLf8d | probably cell killing himself heh |
| 01:24:51 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 01:24:52 | Widget | Hm... odd. |
| 01:25:08 | Widget | 2<blackhound2> can you kick people from ducati?, there is a very annoying teammate killer |
| 01:25:21 | Widget | Maybe everyone left because of this teamkiller or something. |
| 01:25:28 | iLLf8d | yeah probably |
| 01:26:26 | captain_proton | time to finish up cages |
| 01:32:30 | iLLf8d | lol http://bzflag.org/new/ no files found on server |
| 01:33:49 | captain_proton | what?? |
| 01:33:56 | Patlabor221 | works for me |
| 01:34:07 | captain_proton | works here too |
| 01:34:11 | Widget | It's a subversive plot. |
| 01:35:37 | Widget | The world is a better place since the birth of BZFlag. --T.C. |
| 01:35:45 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:36:03 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: one of the random comments from the 'reviews' page |
| 01:36:07 | Widget | Hm... I was expecting many quotes from D.T. or F.T. or T.R. |
| 01:36:40 | captain_proton | i think all of those comments are 1.7c-era |
| 01:37:10 | Patlabor221 | ohhhh |
| 01:37:24 | Patlabor221 | you should add silly ones |
| 01:37:31 | Patlabor221 | like "BZFlag saved my marrage" |
| 01:37:38 | captain_proton | hahahaha |
| 01:37:51 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: well...the website is in cvs ;) |
| 01:38:07 | Patlabor221 | yeah well I still need to get that check in stuff working |
| 01:38:32 | Patlabor221 | let me see if my keys have been propigated |
| 01:39:50 | Patlabor221 | wishes there was a CVS plugin for sourcesafe |
| 01:53:19 | Patlabor221 | arg why won't it work for me!!!! |
| 01:56:12 | blair | sup |
| 01:56:14 | Patlabor221 | let me try wincvs 120 |
| 01:56:23 | blair | yo prot, i'm sorry to botha ya |
| 01:56:30 | blair | wanna tell me how to make an iso again? |
| 02:00:30 | captain_proton | blair: mkisofs |
| 02:01:25 | blair | captain_proton: already burning ;) |
| 02:01:31 | blair | sorry for the call |
| 02:01:42 | blair | nuum can figure it out! |
| 02:02:21 | blair | hey prot, how old do you have to be to drink in the us? |
| 02:02:27 | blair | is it up to the state? |
| 02:03:18 | captain_proton | 21 |
| 02:03:30 | captain_proton | technically up to the state, but i think all 50 use 21 |
| 02:04:08 | blair | you mean you can go to the grocery store and see liquor, but not buy it? |
| 02:04:33 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 02:04:50 | blair | how old to vote? |
| 02:04:50 | captain_proton | though here in CO the grocery stores can only carry 3/2 beer |
| 02:04:53 | captain_proton | 18 |
| 02:05:03 | blair | hold old to join the army? |
| 02:05:13 | captain_proton | 18 i think |
| 02:05:22 | Patlabor221 | some use 18 |
| 02:05:28 | Patlabor221 | some use 20 |
| 02:05:46 | Patlabor221 | for the drinkin that is |
| 02:05:47 | blair | wtf is 3/2 beer? 1.5 times the beer? |
| 02:05:53 | Patlabor221 | 3/2 beer |
| 02:05:58 | Patlabor221 | good god |
| 02:06:05 | Patlabor221 | it's waterd down |
| 02:06:23 | captain_proton | 1.5% alcohol content i believe |
| 02:06:30 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:06:43 | blair | wtf! |
| 02:06:47 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:06:53 | Patlabor221 | wussy beer |
| 02:07:02 | blair | well i'm off to enjoy a nice cold rickards red |
| 02:07:06 | captain_proton | used to be you could drink 3/2 at 18 here in CO but no longer |
| 02:07:29 | Patlabor221 | I think when you turn 21 the state buys you a drink here |
| 02:07:55 | Patlabor221 | cap can you tell me if this is correct for CVS |
| 02:08:06 | Patlabor221 | cvs -d :ext:JeffM2501@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/BZFLAG checkout -P BZFLAG |
| 02:08:39 | Patlabor221 | it gives me back Cannot access /cvsroot/BZFLAG/CVSROOT |
| 02:08:59 | captain_proton | and whats -P? |
| 02:09:03 | Patlabor221 | no clue |
| 02:09:11 | captain_proton | cvs -d :ext:JeffM2501@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co bzflag |
| 02:09:25 | blair | captain proton, i summon you.... |
| 02:09:27 | blair | to the decks |
| 02:09:40 | captain_proton | blair: lemme finish up this thing real quick |
| 02:09:56 | blair | hows the new level? |
| 02:11:06 | captain_proton | comin' along |
| 02:11:18 | captain_proton | i wanna add proper flag zones so i'm updating the patch to e6 |
| 02:11:54 | blair | proper flag zons? |
| 02:12:17 | blair | don't tell me you can restrict flags to certain areas of the field! |
| 02:12:20 | Patlabor221 | wheeeee there it goes |
| 02:12:25 | captain_proton | you can make them spawn in specific areas |
| 02:12:29 | captain_proton | it doesn't restrict drops |
| 02:12:46 | captain_proton | the patch allows you to specify which flags spawn where |
| 02:12:51 | captain_proton | ie a GM room ;) |
| 02:13:27 | blair | thats what i was thinkin, but you guys gotta go multilevel w/ themes like gm/stealth, uperbullet/uperthruster |
| 02:14:22 | captain_proton | multilevel? |
| 02:14:43 | blair | like hit a transporter, and boom! your into a new level |
| 02:15:02 | blair | possibly on a new server, (cluster of servers?) |
| 02:15:20 | blair | like whole different dimensions |
| 02:15:25 | captain_proton | thats an idea for 1.8 |
| 02:15:32 | captain_proton | but the flag zones patch is for 1.7 |
| 02:15:32 | blair | hell, supply a flag transformation function through the teleport |
| 02:15:54 | blair | should i bother with any more hacky-hacky on this game? |
| 02:16:47 | captain_proton | yes |
| 02:17:32 | captain_proton | hint: clean code is accepted faster than your usual mess |
| 02:17:58 | Patlabor221 | I think I just sucessfully comited something |
| 02:19:07 | captain_proton | a crime? |
| 02:19:08 | blair | captain_proton: warnings bad? |
| 02:19:10 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 02:19:12 | Patlabor221 | code |
| 02:19:14 | blair | bwahahahaha |
| 02:19:17 | captain_proton | blair: yes, warnings bad |
| 02:19:23 | blair | i commit, on the average, 3 crimes an hour! |
| 02:19:26 | Patlabor221 | all 146 of em? |
| 02:19:44 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: linux build doesn't have any warnings ;) |
| 02:19:58 | Patlabor221 | windows has 146 |
| 02:20:04 | blair | captain_proton: i'll clean my code when i know it gets accepted |
| 02:20:05 | Patlabor221 | I shall cleans them |
| 02:20:09 | captain_proton | so i conclude that its all the windows developers' fault |
| 02:20:20 | blair | ug windows |
| 02:20:28 | blair | who still uses that junk? |
| 02:20:37 | Patlabor221 | actualy it's a stupid complier warning about the mangles name being over 256 characters |
| 02:20:56 | Patlabor221 | it's easy to get rid of |
| 02:21:14 | Patlabor221 | VC 7 dosn't have the same problem I think |
| 02:23:39 | Patlabor221 | hmmm winCVS dosn't seem to have a "comit all" |
| 02:24:36 | captain_proton | time to add flag entry zones :) |
| 02:25:23 | Patlabor221 | ok you should now be able to build windows without geting vorbis. it's got 1.0 in it, and it only added about 350k |
| 02:25:28 | Patlabor221 | uncompresed |
| 02:25:30 | captain_proton | nifty |
| 02:25:55 | Patlabor221 | and I fixed the windows dsp to not include vorbis_enc |
| 02:32:12 | captain_proton | gotta go |
| 02:32:31 | Widget | Bye. |
| 02:32:32 | Widget | captain_proton: . |
| 02:34:01 | Patlabor221 | see ya cap |
| 02:38:11 | Patlabor221 | there we go no more warnings |
| 02:44:07 | Risolino | is 1.8 the last version? or 1.7e6? |
| 03:06:50 | captain_proton | returns |
| 03:07:01 | captain_proton | Risolino: 1.8 is the development branch, latest stable release is 1.7e6 |
| 03:12:01 | captain_proton | where is MAC? |
| 03:19:11 | Risolino | angelina? |
| 03:19:29 | Risolino | are you italian? |
| 03:19:49 | angelina | no, canadian |
| 03:21:21 | angelina | hey bry, i couldnt rejoin that server after the map ended |
| 03:21:36 | bryjen | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 03:22:07 | bryjen | query doesn't work either |
| 03:22:25 | bryjen | fquerylong 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 03:22:32 | bryjen | bzfquerylong 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 03:22:45 | bryjen | ok |
| 03:23:00 | bryjen | wonder if i tied it up with the first one |
| 03:23:25 | | jzaun was last seen on #bzflag 7 hours, 5 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: ibot jzaun-rotate [Sat Aug 3 21:18:07 2002] |
| 03:23:25 | bryjen | ibot: seen jzaun ? |
| 03:23:30 | angelina | nah, its shows empty in my game |
| 03:23:47 | Risolino | captain_proton: how can i return on linux once i start the program? i never understood that |
| 03:23:59 | bryjen | when i try to connect, it just sits there. i wonder if the bzbot it stuck waiting on it now. |
| 03:24:14 | Risolino | how can i return on my desktop once i start the program? i never understood that |
| 03:24:43 | bryjen | if you start it in a window |
| 03:24:47 | angelina | bryjen: same here |
| 03:24:50 | bryjen | instead of fullscreen |
| 03:25:01 | Risolino | bryien: what's the paramater? |
| 03:25:10 | bryjen | bzflag -window -geometry 640x480 for example |
| 03:25:17 | Risolino | bryien: thx |
| 03:25:26 | captain_proton | or you can go to console |
| 03:25:52 | angelina | but if i start in a window, my mouse slides outta the window sometimes |
| 03:25:59 | bryjen | jzaun: looks like 5157 is stuck |
| 03:26:12 | Risolino | captain_proton: in what sense i can go to console? |
| 03:26:24 | Risolino | captain_proton: i always start it from the console.. |
| 03:26:43 | captain_proton | Risolino: not an xterm, console - text mode |
| 03:27:00 | angelina | ctrl alt f1? |
| 03:27:07 | captain_proton | angelina: yupyup |
| 03:27:08 | angelina | you mean..? |
| 03:27:19 | Risolino | oh..yes |
| 03:27:55 | angelina | captain_proton: can you run another xsession on the same puter? |
| 03:28:10 | angelina | and switch backa nd forth |
| 03:29:07 | captain_proton | yup |
| 03:29:15 | captain_proton | 'X :1' will start a second |
| 03:29:31 | captain_proton | can't use the startx script though |
| 03:29:58 | angelina | just type that? hmm lemme see.. |
| 03:30:31 | bryjen | that starts a second display server. won't be any windows on it tho |
| 03:30:53 | angelina | yes, just the mouse x |
| 03:31:09 | bryjen | export DISPLAY=:1 |
| 03:31:14 | bryjen | X :1 & xterm |
| 03:31:22 | captain_proton | points at bryjen |
| 03:32:40 | angelina | haha...awesome |
| 03:32:49 | angelina | it works..:) |
| 03:32:51 | bryjen | how well this work depends on the video card driver properly save/restoring state when you switch VC's |
| 03:33:14 | bryjen | I'm not sure you'll get 3D accel in both servers... |
| 03:33:27 | captain_proton | if you're using the nvidia drivers you will |
| 03:33:30 | angelina | its the nvidia driver |
| 03:33:32 | bryjen | ah |
| 03:33:39 | captain_proton | shrugs at dri |
| 03:34:15 | bryjen | maybe that's where I read that -- dri docs |
| 03:36:25 | Widget | hihihi |
| 03:36:25 | angelina | if i switch though to tty7 then back to 3, the xserver on 3 is gone! |
| 03:37:33 | bryjen | and I can use startx ..... startx -- :1 args after the double dash are passed to the X server |
| 03:37:35 | Widget | angelina: Why should we get a team logo? |
| 03:38:21 | angelina | Widget: i dunno, i just thought it would spruce your team up a bit |
| 03:38:46 | captain_proton | bryjen: ahh interesting |
| 03:38:49 | Widget | Spruce up? |
| 03:39:02 | Widget | angelina: Our emphasis isn't on clever team names and logos. :-) |
| 03:39:03 | bryjen | but I get software rendering on the second display :( |
| 03:39:11 | captain_proton | bryjen: ooh, poor ati user |
| 03:39:22 | bryjen | uh, yeah, that's it, sure |
| 03:39:51 | bryjen | I shall not speak its true name |
| 03:40:16 | angelina | Widget: i know..your team is very buissness like in its approach..ressurection found that out :) |
| 03:42:11 | angelina | bryjen: startx --:1 gives me "server is active for dispaly 0" fatal error |
| 03:42:33 | Widget | Why do you want to run more than one X server? |
| 03:42:37 | bryjen | is there a space between -- and :1 in that ? |
| 03:42:49 | angelina | no.. |
| 03:43:10 | bryjen | needs to be |
| 03:43:21 | bryjen | startx <space> -- <space> :1 |
| 03:43:54 | bryjen | Widget: we were playing on a Gerbil designed map and now we're insane. |
| 03:44:10 | bryjen | :) |
| 03:44:13 | Widget | Yay! I can run another X server. |
| 03:44:25 | Widget | But kdm doesn't support multiple consoles, it seems. |
| 03:44:26 | angelina | see widget, aint it fun? |
| 03:44:30 | Widget | So it automaticaly logs me in as root. |
| 03:44:46 | bryjen | It's spreading! We've infected Widget !too |
| 03:44:47 | Widget | Wait. |
| 03:45:22 | bryjen | you're whoever you did startx as |
| 03:45:33 | Widget | When I do it as myself, it says... |
| 03:45:36 | bryjen | I think |
| 03:45:38 | Widget | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 03:45:59 | captain_proton | Widget: hahaha |
| 03:46:09 | Widget | captain_proton: Hvarfor? What did I do wrong? |
| 03:46:18 | bryjen | ummm, Not Authorized. Please remain where you are. The secret police are on their way |
| 03:46:30 | captain_proton | Widget: own the console? |
| 03:47:02 | Widget | Oh. |
| 03:47:08 | Widget | if I do it as myself in the console... |
| 03:47:15 | Widget | It starts, then shuts down. |
| 03:47:23 | Widget | checks the logs. |
| 03:48:31 | Widget | Hm.. it doesn't give any errors. |
| 03:48:33 | Widget | It just shut down. |
| 03:49:01 | Widget | Ends with "waiting for x server to shut down". |
| 03:49:13 | bryjen | It's late. Enough of this foolishness for today. Leave some for tomorrow. G'night all. |
| 03:49:27 | angelina | cya bryjen |
| 03:49:34 | Widget | Bye, bryjen. |
| 03:54:58 | Patlabor221 | there house is clean, women may now come over |
| 03:56:13 | angelina | i'll just grab a taxi then? |
| 03:56:36 | Patlabor221 | I can send the limo around if you like |
| 03:57:06 | Patlabor221 | i've got cake here :) |
| 03:57:32 | angelina | hhehe chocolate? |
| 03:57:44 | Patlabor221 | one of them, yes |
| 03:58:46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: get me icons! |
| 03:59:01 | Patlabor221 | port my texture manager for me! |
| 03:59:05 | captain_proton | Patlabor221 = slimeball |
| 03:59:08 | captain_proton | <-- real lubbin |
| 03:59:17 | Patlabor221 | I am working on them |
| 03:59:27 | Patlabor221 | I have 3 hours till my friends arive |
| 03:59:43 | Patlabor221 | I am making them rather simple |
| 03:59:49 | Widget | Patlabor221: Make my API! |
| 03:59:49 | Patlabor221 | without english words |
| 03:59:59 | Patlabor221 | you API is after the converter |
| 04:00:13 | Patlabor221 | and I'm doing the Icons now since I'm in an artisic mood |
| 04:00:42 | Widget | I want to play someone on ducati. |
| 04:00:46 | Widget | Who will play me on ducati? |
| 04:01:22 | Widget | Wow, there are so many volunteers, I'll have to choose 7 other people. |
| 04:02:03 | Patlabor221 | focuses the Chi and begins Icon work.............................. |
| 04:03:19 | Patlabor221 | oooooh a USB drawing tablet |
| 04:03:24 | Patlabor221 | didn't remember I had that |
| 04:06:35 | captain_proton | ooooh |
| 04:06:45 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:06:51 | captain_proton | the ultimate pong game has real potential |
| 04:07:44 | Patlabor221 | are you porting it or just cleaning it up? |
| 04:08:09 | Widget | Or neither? |
| 04:08:28 | Patlabor221 | or just playing it ? |
| 04:10:08 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I need a picture of the laser symbol |
| 04:10:23 | captain_proton | just playing it right now |
| 04:10:57 | captain_proton | if the architecture were cleaned up, graphics made pretty.... |
| 04:10:59 | captain_proton | it'd be a hit |
| 04:11:10 | captain_proton | i especially like the sinusoidal gravity ball powerup :) |
| 04:11:24 | Patlabor221 | those kind of games do well on places like gamespy arcade |
| 04:12:14 | captain_proton | this is full 3d too |
| 04:12:24 | captain_proton | if the ball hits the right powerdown, the field starts spinning around :) |
| 04:12:48 | Widget | captain_proton: Where did you get it? |
| 04:12:53 | captain_proton | Widget: friend wrote it |
| 04:13:05 | Widget | captain_proton: Is it online? |
| 04:13:10 | captain_proton | well... |
| 04:13:14 | captain_proton | its on a server somewhere =} |
| 04:13:16 | captain_proton | not online per se |
| 04:13:46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: link me to your text class? |
| 04:14:15 | captain_proton | i need to talk to him about rewriting it, but if he agrees (almost certain) |
| 04:14:17 | captain_proton | ... |
| 04:14:50 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 04:14:53 | Patlabor221 | ummmmm |
| 04:15:08 | Patlabor221 | wonders if it's allready in the bzedit stuff |
| 04:15:15 | captain_proton | no it isn't |
| 04:15:18 | Patlabor221 | it is |
| 04:15:25 | Patlabor221 | in the last source release |
| 04:15:25 | captain_proton | maybe yours ;) |
| 04:15:29 | Patlabor221 | but it's an older one |
| 04:15:31 | Patlabor221 | one sec |
| 04:15:56 | Patlabor221 | there she is |
| 04:16:12 | Patlabor221 | CUIFont |
| 04:16:32 | captain_proton | where's the source release? |
| 04:16:48 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit |
| 04:16:50 | Patlabor221 | I think |
| 04:17:24 | Patlabor221 | but that one does the texture upside down |
| 04:17:53 | captain_proton | what is it used for? |
| 04:17:58 | captain_proton | (in bzedit) |
| 04:18:01 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/model.zip |
| 04:18:02 | Patlabor221 | it's not |
| 04:18:08 | Patlabor221 | it was just part of the engine class |
| 04:18:16 | Patlabor221 | it's in the same file as my model classes |
| 04:18:16 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 04:18:24 | Patlabor221 | and that's all part of the same DLL |
| 04:18:33 | Patlabor221 | what used to be "pocket engine" |
| 04:18:52 | Patlabor221 | the model zip has the 2 files for the model classes |
| 04:19:03 | Patlabor221 | ohh and you'll need a sample font |
| 04:19:33 | captain_proton | wonders if he can use SDL_ttf to render to a surface then font it |
| 04:19:43 | captain_proton | probably a bad idea |
| 04:20:56 | Patlabor221 | you'll also want to get http://www.artemisgames.com/arialblack36.jpg |
| 04:21:00 | Patlabor221 | sorry tga |
| 04:21:14 | Patlabor221 | it's got alpha |
| 04:23:26 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 04:23:32 | captain_proton | magnetic paddles is also fun |
| 04:24:12 | Patlabor221 | yeah I worked on a breakout clone that did stuff like that |
| 04:24:14 | Patlabor221 | it was neat |
| 04:24:24 | Patlabor221 | one of the powerups wer guns on the paddles |
| 04:24:38 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:24:44 | captain_proton | considers the possibilities for 3d breakout |
| 04:25:27 | Patlabor221 | http://www.longbowdigitalarts.com/dxball2.html |
| 04:25:31 | Patlabor221 | was the one I worked on |
| 04:25:44 | Patlabor221 | god it was ugly |
| 04:26:19 | captain_proton | omg i just had a killer idea |
| 04:26:21 | captain_proton | plugin powerups |
| 04:27:56 | Patlabor221 | that would be neat |
| 04:28:04 | Patlabor221 | that's what I was going to do |
| 04:28:30 | Patlabor221 | with the thing that has no name |
| 04:32:01 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 04:32:15 | captain_proton | there's nothing like the feeling of a tongue burned on really hot coffee |
| 04:32:24 | Patlabor221 | yeah there is |
| 04:32:32 | Patlabor221 | touhg burned on hot chocolate |
| 04:32:40 | Patlabor221 | and bakes potato |
| 04:33:02 | Patlabor221 | but then it's ok when the girl your out to dinner with offers to kiss and make it better |
| 04:33:15 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 04:34:08 | captain_proton | you crack me up |
| 04:34:32 | Patlabor221 | no realy it happend |
| 04:34:41 | Patlabor221 | that was a good day |
| 04:35:25 | Patlabor221 | but it htlos to take her out to dinner when she's haveing a bad day |
| 04:35:41 | captain_proton | htlos? |
| 04:35:42 | Patlabor221 | to a little seafood resturant right on the beach |
| 04:35:50 | Patlabor221 | also |
| 04:35:55 | Patlabor221 | also helps |
| 04:36:10 | Patlabor221 | wow that got messed up somewhere between my brain and fingers |
| 04:41:02 | Widget | Good morning, [TFF]CLQ. |
| 04:41:28 | [TFF]CLQ | Good morning |
| 04:41:41 | Patlabor221 | where is it morning? |
| 04:41:47 | Widget | Norway. |
| 04:41:51 | [TFF]CLQ | Norway |
| 04:41:59 | Widget | And the rest of Yurop |
| 04:42:01 | Patlabor221 | ahhh, in sterio |
| 04:42:04 | [TFF]CLQ | And Dennmark |
| 04:42:08 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 04:42:12 | Patlabor221 | happy tomrow then |
| 04:42:18 | Widget | Dannmark. |
| 04:42:22 | Patlabor221 | it's still today here |
| 04:42:40 | Widget | [TFF]CLQ: He means it's yesterday. |
| 04:43:00 | Patlabor221 | to you manybe |
| 04:43:06 | Patlabor221 | i've gone back in time |
| 04:43:16 | Widget | I get to tomorrow before even the Yuropeans. |
| 04:43:23 | [TFF]CLQ | Where are you? |
| 04:43:37 | [TFF]CLQ | Patlabor |
| 04:43:38 | Patlabor221 | yeah so tell me is tomorow gonna be better then today? |
| 04:43:43 | Patlabor221 | california |
| 04:43:50 | [TFF]CLQ | aaaa |
| 04:44:05 | [TFF]CLQ | A bit cloudy |
| 04:44:12 | Widget | Very cold. |
| 04:44:14 | captain_proton | would be impressed if tomorrow is better than today |
| 04:44:19 | Patlabor221 | it was cloudy and windy dotay |
| 04:44:26 | Patlabor221 | you did have a good day didn't you cap? |
| 04:44:26 | Widget | [TFF]CLQ: I'll play you at ducati. |
| 04:44:35 | [TFF]CLQ | Ok |
| 04:44:36 | captain_proton | :) |
| 04:44:49 | Patlabor221 | I need to have one of those good days sometime |
| 04:44:55 | Patlabor221 | sometime soon |
| 04:45:01 | [TFF]CLQ | going to play |
| 04:45:06 | [TFF]CLQ | bye |
| 04:45:38 | Widget | Coming? |
| 04:45:41 | Patlabor221 | wow the laser symbol is much difrent then I thought it would be |
| 04:45:46 | captain_proton | ---* |
| 04:45:58 | captain_proton | 32-bit laser ;) |
| 04:46:01 | Patlabor221 | well it's in a triangle |
| 04:46:08 | captain_proton | ohhh yeah |
| 04:46:12 | Patlabor221 | and it's more like *- |
| 04:46:16 | captain_proton | ^ |
| 04:46:19 | captain_proton | / \ |
| 04:46:29 | captain_proton | /*-\ |
| 04:46:31 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:46:33 | captain_proton | that didn't work =| |
| 04:46:33 | Patlabor221 | but there are a lot more spiky things in it then an asterix has |
| 04:48:12 | Patlabor221 | i's got 8 lines on it |
| 04:49:35 | Patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/lazer.jpg |
| 04:49:57 | captain_proton | at least make it red! |
| 04:50:17 | Patlabor221 | right now I'm doing them all white |
| 04:50:21 | Patlabor221 | then I'll color them |
| 04:50:25 | captain_proton | i see |
| 04:52:19 | jzaun | captain_proton: Who made Hall Of Mirros? |
| 04:52:22 | captain_proton | dinner for six on rotate! |
| 04:52:23 | captain_proton | jzaun: apathy |
| 04:52:26 | captain_proton | lets all go play! |
| 04:53:23 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 04:53:23 | Widget | ibot: ducati? |
| 04:53:37 | Widget | Why am I being rejected when I try to join ducati? Did it go down or something. |
| 04:53:43 | Widget | bzfquery cell.unm.edu 5155 |
| 05:09:10 | jpablo | dum de dum. |
| 05:12:36 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 05:13:02 | fontenot | fuxk blue |
| 05:13:26 | fontenot | twice when i had him he started lagging bad and went nr |
| 05:13:31 | fontenot | yet lagstats showed 116 |
| 05:14:04 | fontenot | every time i play that guy i see weird shit like that with him |
| 05:14:24 | captain_proton | yeah i notice |
| 05:14:29 | captain_proton | shoot at him and he goes nr |
| 05:14:35 | fontenot | yep |
| 05:14:38 | fontenot | convenient |
| 05:37:50 | Widget | blue? |
| 05:37:55 | Widget | blue is Zig, I think. |
| 05:37:56 | Widget | Where was he? |
| 05:38:44 | captain_proton | Widget: we were talking about 'his own ambition' |
| 05:38:54 | [TFF]CLQ | Bye |
| 05:39:03 | Widget | captain_proton: Huh? Whose own ambition? |
| 05:39:11 | [TFF]CLQ | Going for breakfeast |
| 05:39:19 | Widget | Bye, [TFF]CLQ. |
| 05:39:30 | [TFF]CLQ | Call me CLQ |
| 05:39:33 | [TFF]CLQ | bye |
| 05:40:21 | captain_proton | Widget: a player called 'his own ambition' |
| 05:40:28 | Widget | Oh... |
| 05:40:31 | captain_proton | who seems to go nr at the most convenient times |
| 05:40:42 | Widget | Ah. fontenot said something about blue. |
| 05:41:06 | Widget | Screen names like "his own ambition" don't work any more, since it says "killed by his own ambition's blast". |
| 05:41:16 | Widget | With e6+. |
| 06:39:02 | captain_proton | ugh....triangle strips...hurt.....brain |
| 06:42:28 | Widget | schläft auf ihrer Keyboard. |
| 06:42:51 | Widget | Ich muß schlafen, bis bald. |
| 06:42:58 | Widget | is away: None! |
| 07:22:42 | [TFF]CLQ | Hi all |
| 09:30:44 | [TFF]CLQ | Hi all |
| 10:59:32 | akira_ | moin |
| 12:39:37 | [TFF]CLQ | Somone to the Ducati server please? |
| 13:46:07 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:46:07 | Chestal | ibot: ducati? |
| 13:46:16 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:46:16 | Chestal | ibot: ducati? |
| 13:46:18 | bzbot | DeadMeat (G): -11 (73-84). newbie (R): 33 (100-67). tapo (R): -45 (111-156). @@ (P): 0 (0-0). ink (G): 20 (112-92). nobody (G): 5 (42-37). Jagdpanzer (R): 4 (42-38). Ruud Van Nistelrooy (G): 0 (2-2). Mike (R): -5 (4-9). |
| 14:52:18 | Ruudi | hi |
| 14:53:12 | Chestal | hi Ruudi |
| 14:53:46 | Ruudi | so tournament day? |
| 14:53:59 | Ruudi | we got beatn up yesterday as little kids :) |
| 14:54:11 | Chestal | but it wasn't official, good for you :-) |
| 14:54:20 | Ruudi | wasnt? |
| 14:54:23 | Ruudi | oh nice |
| 14:54:30 | Ruudi | i thought it was |
| 14:54:34 | Chestal | no, because tankman played for guglmty |
| 14:54:49 | Ruudi | a i see |
| 14:55:22 | Ruudi | i newer know who's in whitch team |
| 14:56:06 | Ruudi | i got better pc box today...loaded with TNT :) |
| 14:56:31 | Chestal | let's see which teams show up later |
| 14:56:41 | Ruudi | yeah |
| 14:57:07 | Ruudi | eats fish and drinks some light beer....goly it is! |
| 14:57:37 | Ruudi | godly.... |
| 14:57:48 | Chestal | I don't like fish, but beer is ok :-) |
| 14:57:53 | Ruudi | hehee :) |
| 14:57:56 | Chestal | I think I'll make myself another tea |
| 14:58:10 | Ruudi | i'm from island so fish comes and bites you if you don't |
| 14:58:48 | Chestal | hmm, I'm too lazy to do work |
| 14:58:59 | Ruudi | i thought about bz today...would be cool a voice chat in game...how fast connection it would be need? |
| 14:59:03 | Chestal | I think I'll read a little |
| 14:59:18 | Chestal | hmm, I don't know, depends onthe quality you want to have |
| 14:59:38 | Chestal | actually something like that already is in bz, but I think it only worked with SGIs in a LAN or something |
| 14:59:38 | Ruudi | 512 kilobits would be ok i guess...would be nice feature in team play |
| 14:59:48 | Ruudi | no time to type all the time but chat is nice |
| 14:59:58 | Ruudi | i see |
| 15:00:16 | Chestal | back to Igrok |
| 15:01:39 | Chestal | uuh, my chocolate melted :-( |
| 15:01:53 | Chestal | I'll try to reanimate it by putting it into the fridge |
| 15:03:02 | Ruudi | that reminds me i just broguht some choko too :) |
| 15:06:15 | Chestal | chocolate and beer, hmm :-) |
| 15:23:12 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 15:23:12 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 15:23:14 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 15:23:20 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 15:23:20 | jzaun | ibot jzaun |
| 15:41:40 | Widget | Hm. BZFlag freezes when I try to connect to ducati. |
| 15:43:02 | Widget | I was playing, and everything went "not responsive". |
| 15:43:14 | Widget | And now I can't connect back. |
| 15:43:45 | Ruudi | same here |
| 15:44:15 | Ruudi | Sniper got kicked from ducati too? |
| 15:44:33 | Widget | I think ducati is down. |
| 15:44:35 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:44:35 | Widget | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:44:40 | Sniper | yep |
| 15:45:00 | Sniper | Why did that happend?? |
| 15:45:27 | Ruudi | dunno ducati is bit dead i guess |
| 15:46:05 | Sniper | What about the other ducati server, ok there is no C T F but shall we try it? |
| 15:46:24 | Widget | How about.... |
| 15:46:27 | Widget | cell.unm.edu 5155 |
| 15:46:31 | Widget | CTF. |
| 15:46:41 | Ruudi | dunno i'll take a break and listen to some flaresound |
| 15:47:10 | Sniper | Widget you and me? |
| 15:47:31 | Widget | OK. |
| 15:47:35 | Widget | Det är ett äpple. |
| 15:47:38 | Sniper | cu there |
| 15:47:39 | Widget | Vem har en bok? |
| 15:47:45 | Widget | En kvinna är här. |
| 15:47:47 | Sniper | hehe DU |
| 15:47:59 | Sniper | Är hon snygg? |
| 15:51:07 | Widget | It didn't work. |
| 15:51:25 | Sniper | nope |
| 15:54:20 | Ruudi | is it true that us covernment wanna disable all internet radios? |
| 15:54:43 | Widget | I read about that somewhere. |
| 15:54:52 | Ruudi | i say it sux |
| 15:54:59 | Ruudi | not that i listen too mutch radio |
| 15:55:05 | Ruudi | but that us politcs sux |
| 15:55:12 | Widget | I don't listen to internet radio... where can you? |
| 15:55:15 | Ruudi | lets disable all music |
| 15:55:35 | Ruudi | where can i what? |
| 15:55:43 | Widget | Listen to internet radio? |
| 15:55:50 | Widget | Aha! If Chestal is gone, then ducati has gone down! |
| 15:55:56 | Ruudi | i listen it right now actualy |
| 15:56:03 | Ruudi | at home |
| 15:56:07 | Sniper | You are probobly right |
| 15:56:09 | Widget | Where? how? |
| 15:56:17 | Widget | Oh no! Chestal hat verlassen!!!! |
| 15:56:42 | Ruudi | http://flaresound.com/ that one i'm listen now |
| 15:56:46 | Widget | Was tun wir?!? Kein ducati!! |
| 15:56:46 | Ruudi | nice smooth jazzy beats |
| 15:56:51 | Sniper | hmm i hope ducati works again 2 hours |
| 15:57:32 | Widget | Ah, the US wants internet radios to pay royalties. |
| 15:57:56 | Ruudi | i see |
| 15:58:06 | Ruudi | that means no intenet radio :) |
| 15:59:14 | Ruudi | oh i want my studiosoft on linux :) i havn't used linux for a while and now when i do it it is all so smooth and nice |
| 15:59:22 | Ruudi | and looks good :) |
| 16:00:13 | Widget | Ruudi: Start your own internet radio station. :) |
| 16:00:23 | Ruudi | with my own music :P |
| 16:01:02 | Ruudi | http://erasmus.cs.ut.ee/~ruudi/ check skiphead for my latest stuff :) |
| 16:02:04 | Widget | Pagan! Ropendamine, vandumine ja luuletamine keelatud! |
| 16:02:58 | Ruudi | Hell! Nasty words, swearing, and poetry not allowed! - that's what it means |
| 16:03:49 | Widget | Ruudi: Tanel Po~ld? |
| 16:03:52 | Ruudi | Pagan is one of Devils name in old Estonian mytologi |
| 16:04:06 | Widget | Ruudi: Bass and vocal. |
| 16:04:08 | Ruudi | yea Tanel Põld |
| 16:04:18 | Ruudi | well that vocal is nasty :) |
| 16:04:24 | Ruudi | so drunk i hardly remember |
| 16:05:56 | Ruudi | i have live concert at the end od August (electronic experimental music mixed with live jazz...you all welcome :) |
| 16:06:27 | Widget | Hehe. |
| 16:06:32 | Widget | Wow. |
| 16:07:35 | Widget | Ruudi is a student at Tartu Ülikool. |
| 16:07:38 | Ruudi | nop |
| 16:07:46 | Ruudi | my friend works there :) |
| 16:07:52 | Widget | Oh. :) |
| 16:08:01 | Ruudi | and i got access |
| 16:08:56 | Ruudi | what do you do i mean what's your passion? |
| 16:10:20 | Widget | Um..... dunno? :) |
| 16:10:33 | Widget | BBL. |
| 16:10:41 | Ruudi | BBL? |
| 16:10:55 | Ruudi | some kind of politics...or terror group? |
| 16:11:07 | Widget | ??? |
| 16:11:09 | Widget | No way. |
| 16:11:11 | Ruudi | Widget the terrorist you know :) |
| 16:11:12 | Widget | Be back later. |
| 16:11:15 | Ruudi | ok |
| 16:12:52 | Widget | is away: Breakfast. Frühstück. Hommikueine. Frukost. |
| 16:13:17 | Cell | why is the first connection to a server blocking, thats annoying |
| 16:13:49 | Ruudi | hommikueine...is like the stuff you eat et the morning |
| 16:14:07 | Ruudi | hommik - morning |
| 16:32:46 | Chesta| | grmpfl |
| 16:32:54 | Chesta| | looks like ducati will be down for today |
| 16:33:12 | Widget | Nooooo! It can't be possible! |
| 16:33:19 | Chesta| | the file server crashed and doesn't boot |
| 16:33:31 | Chesta| | I cannot do anything |
| 16:33:44 | Chesta| | someone else should provide a server |
| 16:33:58 | Chesta| | last tiem proton started a server on jzaun, it was quite ok from Europe |
| 16:34:11 | Widget | Proton isn't here. |
| 16:34:20 | Chesta| | port 32000, I think it's still running |
| 16:35:02 | Chesta| | it is |
| 16:35:47 | Widget | Yah, it is. |
| 16:36:17 | Chesta| | hmm my irc is confused |
| 16:39:05 | Worf | Chestal, do you know why ducati is down? |
| 16:39:24 | Chestal | Worf: yes,file server crashed and doesn't boot |
| 16:39:27 | Chestal | won't come up today |
| 16:39:57 | Worf | ok |
| 16:40:19 | Worf | I guess there are no matches today |
| 16:40:34 | Chestal | soem matches are planned |
| 16:40:38 | Chestal | would have to use different serevr |
| 16:40:42 | Chestal | jzaun.com 32000 is up |
| 16:40:56 | Worf | I didn't know there were others |
| 16:41:02 | Ruudi | hi |
| 16:41:16 | Worf | hi Ruudi |
| 16:56:04 | bryjen | hi angelina , Worf |
| 16:56:29 | angelina | hey bry |
| 16:56:56 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 16:57:19 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:57:35 | | bzbot was last seen on #bzflag 1 hours, 34 minutes and 21 seconds ago, saying: Server is empty [Sun Aug 4 16:23:14 2002] |
| 16:57:35 | bryjen | ibot: seen bzbot ? |
| 16:58:02 | | Chestal was last seen on #bzflag 17 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: jzaun.com 32000 is up [Sun Aug 4 17:40:42 2002] |
| 16:58:02 | bryjen | ibot: seen Chestal ? |
| 16:58:41 | TFF-Valoche | better |
| 16:58:43 | TFF-Valoche | hi everyone |
| 16:59:12 | bryjen | ack. Hello froggy |
| 16:59:25 | TFF-Valoche | riiibiiiip! |
| 16:59:32 | Chestal | hi Valoche |
| 16:59:39 | TFF-Valoche | hi Chest |
| 16:59:47 | TFF-Valoche | sup? |
| 16:59:50 | bryjen | Chestal: no bzbot ? |
| 16:59:55 | Chestal | ducati down, won't come up today, you can use jzaun.com 32000 for matches |
| 17:00:01 | Chestal | bzbot down, too |
| 17:00:08 | bryjen | eep |
| 17:00:18 | TFF-Valoche | I'l check that |
| 17:00:41 | bryjen | something wrong ? |
| 17:01:30 | Chestal | file server crashed, won't boot anymore |
| 17:02:48 | bryjen | ouch |
| 17:12:28 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | Hi |
| 17:12:43 | Chestal | hi SGI |
| 17:12:44 | Ginku | hello |
| 17:13:02 | Chestal | a lot of new frogs :-) |
| 17:13:18 | Ginku | indeed :-) |
| 17:13:18 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | :) |
| 17:14:03 | Ginku | brb |
| 17:21:27 | Izto | Hi all |
| 17:21:33 | Chestal | hi izto |
| 17:21:54 | Izto | Anyone seen dinah, condon or mortimer? |
| 17:22:07 | Ginku | nope |
| 17:22:20 | Izto | I guess I have no team anymore.. |
| 17:22:54 | Chestal | check out #dinah |
| 17:22:55 | Ginku | Chestal: wie aendert man den gottverdammten Username im xchat ? |
| 17:23:11 | Chestal | Ginku: mässige er sich in seinem Ton! |
| 17:23:28 | Chestal | Ginku: geht "/nick GinkuBier" nicht? |
| 17:23:40 | Ginku | lol |
| 17:24:17 | [TFF]Ginku | hey stark |
| 17:24:48 | [TFF]Ginku | danke Chestal |
| 17:26:58 | [TFF]Ginku | SGI ? |
| 17:27:44 | [TFF]Ginku | #Valoche |
| 17:28:11 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | join /#Valoche |
| 17:28:16 | | Valoche was last seen on #bzflag 5 days, 21 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds ago, saying: I'm going to train^H^H^H play a little, bye [Mon Jul 29 20:46:55 2002] |
| 17:28:16 | [TFF]Ginku | ibot, seen Valoche |
| 17:28:28 | [TFF]Ginku | ahhhhh |
| 17:29:21 | [TFF]Ginku | Valoche will come at 19 UTC...and reiner.....and CQL, I hope :-) |
| 17:29:37 | [TFF]Ginku | then we need an opponent |
| 17:30:44 | [TFF]Ginku | ..and a referee of course |
| 17:31:39 | [TFF]Ginku | Chestal: could we use your ducati server port 59000 later ? |
| 17:33:26 | [TFF]Valoche | Hi dudes from TFF |
| 17:33:34 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | Hi |
| 17:33:38 | [TFF]Valoche | I have to go eat, I'll be back around 21:00 - 21:10 |
| 17:34:06 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | it's not good to have fight with full stomach indeed :) |
| 17:35:12 | [TFF]Ginku | hello Valoche :-) |
| 17:36:08 | Widget | Hey, there are three TFFs. |
| 17:36:15 | [TFF]Ginku | indeed !! |
| 17:36:23 | Widget | And there are three bzs!!!! |
| 17:36:24 | [TFF]Ginku | 3 bz ? |
| 17:36:27 | Widget | Yes! |
| 17:36:32 | [TFF]Ginku | yep |
| 17:36:51 | Widget | We can play, then? |
| 17:37:02 | [TFF]Ginku | a bit later |
| 17:37:28 | Widget | OK. |
| 17:37:33 | [TFF]Ginku | Valoche has gone for a few minutes |
| 17:37:43 | [TFF]Ginku | eat something |
| 17:38:38 | Widget | OK. |
| 17:38:46 | Widget | I have to leave for a few minutes as well. |
| 17:38:53 | [TFF]Ginku | k |
| 17:40:09 | [TFF]Ginku | And I have now to go into my cellar for getting a few cold beer :-) |
| 17:40:39 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | Hey Ginku is hot there like here eh ! |
| 17:40:51 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | ~ 38 C. today ...uff |
| 17:41:20 | [TFF]Ginku | wow that heavy !! |
| 17:41:47 | Izto | No one on ducati right now? |
| 17:42:11 | [TFF]Ginku | South Italy SGI ? |
| 17:42:20 | Chestal | SGI: uh? where are you at? |
| 17:44:40 | [TFF]Ginku | in south-western Germany we've pleasant 22 C |
| 17:44:50 | [TFF]Ginku | hello Reiner :-) |
| 17:44:54 | [TFF]reiner | hi TFF |
| 17:44:55 | [TFF]Ginku | 4 frogs |
| 17:45:03 | [TFF]CLQ | 5 |
| 17:45:11 | | Cell: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 17:45:11 | Cell | ibot weather EDDE |
| 17:45:11 | [TFF]reiner | now we can play |
| 17:45:40 | [TFF]reiner | nhello valoche |
| 17:45:44 | [TFF]Ginku | we should wait a few minutes for Valoche (eating) |
| 17:45:49 | [TFF]reiner | nhello ginku |
| 17:45:56 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | [TFF]Ginku: from center |
| 17:45:59 | [TFF]reiner | hello SGI_O2 |
| 17:46:03 | [TFF]Ginku | halloele, klasse Dich hier zu sehen |
| 17:46:16 | [TFF]reiner | nand last but not least :-) hello CLQ |
| 17:46:17 | Chestal | I hope lag will be acceptable on jzaun |
| 17:46:19 | [TFF]Ginku | ahh SGI |
| 17:46:24 | [TFF]CLQ | Where are we |
| 17:46:32 | [TFF]CLQ | going to play |
| 17:46:37 | [TFF]CLQ | Hi all |
| 17:46:39 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | hello reiner |
| 17:46:54 | [TFF]reiner | hallo ginku; ich tippe immer n vorher ein ; wie peinlich :-) |
| 17:46:56 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | hi CLQ |
| 17:47:10 | [TFF]CLQ | hi SGI_02 |
| 17:47:27 | Chestal | hi reiner |
| 17:47:29 | [TFF]Ginku | hi CLQ, we could play against team [bz] - very strong |
| 17:47:39 | [TFF]reiner | hi chestal |
| 17:47:41 | Chestal | bz is indeed a strong team |
| 17:47:47 | [TFF]CLQ | Where are we going to play? |
| 17:47:59 | [TFF]CLQ | Yes bz is strong |
| 17:48:01 | [TFF]Ginku | Chestal: could we use your ducati server port 59000 later ? |
| 17:48:36 | [TFF]Ginku | brb |
| 17:48:38 | [TFF]CLQ | Right Whiget? :-) |
| 17:48:45 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | i have meet in the afternoon Sniper50 of bz and he make me crazy :) |
| 17:48:55 | [TFF]Ginku | why ? |
| 17:49:03 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | if th eother team member play as well he ..mmm |
| 17:49:25 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | will be an hard match |
| 17:49:32 | [TFF]Ginku | yep |
| 17:49:53 | [TFF]Ginku | a few beer now.....going......into cellar............... |
| 17:50:00 | [TFF]CLQ | Hwo are we going to play? |
| 17:50:06 | [TFF]CLQ | WHO |
| 17:51:05 | Ruudi | hi all |
| 17:51:14 | [TFF]reiner | hi ruudi |
| 17:51:31 | bryjen | Hello all |
| 17:51:45 | Sniper | hi |
| 17:52:06 | Ruudi | so any team together? |
| 17:52:12 | bryjen | hmm, just 3 Res ? |
| 17:52:33 | [TFF]reiner | can't wait to play :-) |
| 17:52:40 | Sniper | Its gonna be on a laggy server! |
| 17:52:48 | Chestal | ginku: ducati won't be available today, sorry |
| 17:52:58 | Sniper | njzaun |
| 17:53:08 | Ruudi | 250ms not so bad lag |
| 17:53:13 | [TFF]Valoche | I'm back! |
| 17:53:23 | [TFF]reiner | hi valoche |
| 17:53:24 | Sniper | :) i was hoping for 40ms |
| 17:53:28 | [TFF]Valoche | hey reiner :) |
| 17:53:31 | Ruudi | maybe frogs are here? |
| 17:53:37 | [TFF]Valoche | yes we are |
| 17:53:45 | [TFF]Valoche | 5 os us :-)))) |
| 17:53:47 | [TFF]Valoche | of |
| 17:53:50 | [TFF]reiner | and many |
| 17:54:01 | Ruudi | hmm |
| 17:54:08 | Ruudi | lets play we got 3 |
| 17:54:10 | Ruudi | i guess |
| 17:54:14 | [TFF]CLQ | Whitch server are we playing on? |
| 17:54:15 | [TFF]Valoche | have we got a ref? |
| 17:54:20 | Sniper | jh should join soon also |
| 17:54:40 | Ruudi | i guess jh will have even more lag than we do |
| 17:54:52 | Ruudi | i remember he had problem with non europ servers |
| 17:55:05 | Sniper | jzaun.com its the only i know of |
| 17:55:14 | [TFF]Valoche | port 32000 |
| 17:55:24 | Sniper | nceel.unm its to laggy |
| 17:55:43 | Ruudi | .unm whats that? |
| 17:55:49 | bryjen | i'm trying to bring mine up, but ssh seems a little slow. that doesn't bode well for bzflag :( |
| 17:58:07 | Widget | hihihi |
| 17:58:16 | [TFF]Valoche | jzaun.com 32000 is down :-( |
| 17:58:21 | [TFF]reiner | hi |
| 17:58:27 | Widget | No, it's up. |
| 17:58:29 | Widget | I was just there. |
| 17:58:35 | [TFF]Valoche | oh my, is it yours? |
| 17:58:36 | strayer | hi all |
| 17:58:40 | Widget | No. |
| 17:58:44 | Chestal | jzaun.com is up |
| 17:58:45 | Widget | But Chestal's still there. |
| 17:58:47 | [TFF]Ginku | hi strayer |
| 17:58:59 | [TFF]Valoche | hum, brb |
| 17:59:31 | Widget | jh should be coming any time now. |
| 17:59:40 | Widget | If only Meneer Zig were to come. |
| 17:59:41 | Widget | :( |
| 17:59:55 | Sniper | I havnt seen zig lately |
| 17:59:59 | [TFF]CLQ | Are we playing bz? |
| 18:00:05 | Widget | He was going to come. but he couldnae.- |
| 18:00:08 | [TFF]reiner | i hope |
| 18:00:33 | Widget | Hi, Valoche. |
| 18:00:39 | [TFF] | god, it's going to be another night with buggy DSL :-( |
| 18:00:41 | Sniper | Lots of frogs here today! |
| 18:00:50 | [TFF]CLQ | is going to find a panic room |
| 18:00:52 | Ruudi[bz] | those frogs they are killers i know i have been there :) |
| 18:00:56 | [TFF]reiner | hehe |
| 18:01:17 | Widget | Beaucoup de grenouilles. |
| 18:01:20 | [TFF]CLQ | slams his head in the wall |
| 18:01:35 | Ruudi[bz] | and wall says autch |
| 18:01:45 | [TFF]Ginku | lol |
| 18:01:45 | [TFF]CLQ | is angry and ready to fight |
| 18:01:56 | Ruudi[bz] | you like mike dyson :P |
| 18:02:09 | [TFF] | BRB I'll connect to IRC on my laptop |
| 18:02:19 | [TFF]Ginku | Chestal: what about ducati server 59000 ? |
| 18:02:24 | [TFF]CLQ | dosent bite off ears |
| 18:02:26 | Ruudi[bz] | dead |
| 18:02:27 | bryjen | Chestal: how do you make the countdown wait ? |
| 18:02:28 | Sniper | Is it up?? |
| 18:02:36 | Widget | Sniper: Nae. |
| 18:03:01 | Ruudi[bz] | CLQ ok then we safe by ears today :) |
| 18:03:03 | [TFF]Ginku | oh, ducati is down...shit |
| 18:03:23 | Chestal | bryjen: wait durign the match? you don't |
| 18:03:32 | Widget | Bon, on va faire quoi? |
| 18:03:33 | [TFF]CLQ | Well at least we don't lose many points |
| 18:03:33 | Ruudi[bz] | lets try that jedywhatever server just to see does it lag well |
| 18:03:51 | [TFF]Valoche | frogs are green, obviously |
| 18:03:51 | bryjen | Chestal: no wait for someone to do /countdown to start it |
| 18:04:05 | Sniper | Not after being splashed |
| 18:04:09 | Widget | Wir müssen spielen auf jzaun? |
| 18:04:13 | [TFF]CLQ | And if we win we win a lot of points |
| 18:04:19 | Chestal | I can start the countdown if you like |
| 18:04:26 | [TFF]Valoche | oh yeah, we need those desperately |
| 18:04:29 | Widget | Hm... should we wait a few minutes... |
| 18:04:32 | Widget | Speak of the devil! |
| 18:04:34 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | we have the server ? |
| 18:04:37 | john` | hi |
| 18:04:39 | [TFF]Valoche | here is jh |
| 18:04:43 | Ruudi[bz] | nice |
| 18:04:43 | Widget | I was just about to ask to wait for a minute for jh. |
| 18:04:46 | Chestal | jzaun.com 32000 |
| 18:04:47 | [TFF]Valoche | SGI:we do |
| 18:04:59 | john` | sniper? |
| 18:05:00 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | jzaun.com 32000 ? |
| 18:05:00 | bryjen | Chestal: I started a server, and the countdown started as soon as I joined to check it |
| 18:05:05 | Sniper | nis here |
| 18:05:29 | [TFF]CLQ | When do we start |
| 18:05:39 | [TFF]Valoche | join now as green |
| 18:05:48 | Chestal | bryjen: hmm, you need e6 server for /countdown feature I guess |
| 18:05:58 | [TFF]Ginku | server ip and port, SGI |
| 18:06:08 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | ok tx |
| 18:06:15 | [TFF]CLQ | ok |
| 18:06:33 | bryjen | Chestal: I think I'm using e7 from CVS. I'll check |
| 18:06:37 | [TFF]reiner | ginku: ich krieg hier nichts mehr mit |
| 18:06:50 | bryjen | Chestal: yes, it says e7 |
| 18:06:56 | Chestal | hmm |
| 18:07:00 | Ruudi[bz] | ok map changed? |
| 18:07:14 | [TFF]reiner | jzaun.com Port 32000 and green TTF ? |
| 18:07:14 | Sniper | yes |
| 18:07:17 | bryjen | I've still got e6 . I'll try that |
| 18:07:21 | Chestal | bryjen: there was a change about the countdown stuff in CVS some days ago, haven't checked it |
| 18:07:25 | [TFF]Ginku | reiner, die pruefen, welchen server wir benuetzen konne |
| 18:07:35 | [TFF]reiner | :-) |
| 18:08:04 | [TFF]reiner | ja ich bin am mitschreiben, falls der nicht auf der liste ist |
| 18:08:19 | [TFF]Ginku | wenn du deinen bzflag client startest, kannst Du sercer Name und port Nummer auch manuell eingeben |
| 18:08:29 | Chestal | ist nicht in Liste denk ich |
| 18:09:08 | [TFF]Valoche | Ginky and Reiner, I propose we start the match, then we switch teammates every 5 minutes |
| 18:09:16 | jpablo | morning. |
| 18:09:18 | bryjen | Chestal: e6 works as expected. Countdown not started on join. |
| 18:09:20 | [TFF]Ginku | es gibt waehrend eines Spieles immer ein gruenes und ein rotes Tam |
| 18:09:28 | [TFF]Ginku | Team verdammt nochmal |
| 18:09:46 | [TFF]Ginku | ok Valoche |
| 18:09:54 | [TFF]reiner | und wir sind gruen |
| 18:09:59 | [TFF]reiner | oder? |
| 18:10:16 | [TFF]Ginku | haste schon mal rote Froesche gesehen :-) |
| 18:10:34 | [TFF]reiner | hihi |
| 18:10:43 | [TFF]Ginku | das wird aber jedesmal individuell ausgemacht, wie eben auch der Server der benuetzt wird |
| 18:10:45 | [TFF]reiner | nach einem unfall |
| 18:10:57 | [TFF]Ginku | rotfl |
| 18:11:09 | [TFF]Valoche | Ginku and Reiner please join as observers |
| 18:11:15 | Chestal | reiner: 3 pro Team, d.h. du musst als @reiner joinen, als observer erstmal |
| 18:11:16 | [TFF]Ginku | ok |
| 18:13:18 | [TFF]Valoche | Ginku join now |
| 18:14:20 | bryjen | angelina & Worf : are we going to play TFF today ? |
| 18:15:36 | angelina | bryjen: i was hoping wing or paul might play, but i will if you want |
| 18:15:52 | [TFF]Valoche | SGI? |
| 18:15:56 | Chestal | hi captain. ducati is down, we want to use jzaun for a match |
| 18:16:10 | Chestal | captain_proton: more observer slots would be good, we have several subs here |
| 18:16:23 | captain_proton | i can arrange this |
| 18:16:24 | Worf | I'm in |
| 18:16:32 | captain_proton | how many slots? |
| 18:16:33 | [TFF]Valoche | yes please |
| 18:16:49 | strayer | Chestal: isses nicht moeglich die anzahl der observer zu erhoehen?...4 ist doof |
| 18:16:49 | Chestal | proton: hmm, I'd say at least 6 |
| 18:16:58 | Chestal | strayer: bin ja gerade dabei |
| 18:17:00 | Worf | When & where, Bryjen |
| 18:17:04 | Chestal | proton: mayeb even 8 |
| 18:17:17 | Chestal | I think we have 4 observers from the playign teams |
| 18:17:23 | Chestal | plus ref+further observers |
| 18:18:03 | Widget | OK. |
| 18:18:14 | strayer | Chestal: sag mitr bitte bescheid, wenn ichs nochmal probieren kann... |
| 18:18:16 | captain_proton | ok, should have 8 obs on jzaun:32000 |
| 18:18:21 | bryjen | Worf: they're trying to get a match with bz now , so in at least 1/2 hour, maybe a bit longer |
| 18:18:22 | Chestal | thanks |
| 18:18:32 | Worf | ok |
| 18:20:21 | | Wing was last seen on #bzflag 3 days, 13 hours, 16 minutes and 24 seconds ago, saying: bye [Thu Aug 1 06:03:57 2002] |
| 18:20:21 | bryjen | ibot: seen Wing ? |
| 18:20:30 | | paul was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 17 hours, 44 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: night. [Sat Aug 3 01:36:18 2002] |
| 18:20:30 | bryjen | ibot: seen paul ? |
| 18:20:37 | | paulj was last seen on #bzflag 2 days, 4 hours, 22 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: :) [Fri Aug 2 14:58:06 2002] |
| 18:20:37 | bryjen | ibot: seen paulj ? |
| 18:20:39 | | Patlabor221 was last seen on #bzflag 13 hours, 30 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: then I'll color them [Sun Aug 4 05:50:21 2002] |
| 18:20:39 | captain_proton | ibot seen Patlabor221 |
| 18:26:00 | Chestal | looks like bz is winning |
| 18:26:44 | [TFF]Valoche | shut up, it's not finished ;-)))))) |
| 18:26:55 | [TFF]Valoche | they are pretty damned good at team play |
| 18:27:11 | [TFF]Valoche | thanks for the advices |
| 18:32:10 | strayer | hm... |
| 18:37:41 | Chestal | Valoches: they are the 3rd ranked team, and I thinbk they deserve it |
| 18:37:51 | Chestal | Valoche: your team needs more practice on CTF tactics |
| 18:38:30 | doughecka | oink |
| 18:38:43 | doughecka | greetings and salutations all! |
| 18:38:55 | captain_proton | waits for the epic meq vs z00 game |
| 18:39:46 | | 71.23 |
| 18:39:46 | doughecka | ibot 36.10 + 35.13 |
| 18:40:48 | | jpablo: excuse me? |
| 18:40:48 | jpablo | ibot: 3 / 0 |
| 18:40:59 | jpablo | dum de dum. |
| 18:41:08 | | doughecka: i'm not following you... |
| 18:41:08 | doughecka | ibot 3 / 0 |
| 18:41:11 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:41:16 | | 1.5 |
| 18:41:16 | doughecka | ibot 3 / 2 |
| 18:41:18 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:41:22 | doughecka | it cant do 0 |
| 18:42:07 | captain_proton | haha @ the word of the day |
| 18:42:23 | doughecka | hrm |
| 18:43:06 | captain_proton | puts on Aho Kalevi's insect symphony |
| 18:51:32 | Widget | captain_proton: Is your team here? |
| 18:51:36 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | ahiahiahi |
| 18:51:43 | [TFF]CLQ | Im hear |
| 18:51:44 | [TFF]Valoche | oh my oh my oh my oh my |
| 18:51:48 | [TFF]CLQ | here |
| 18:51:55 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | licking my ...how can i say |
| 18:52:04 | [TFF]CLQ | bangs my head even harder |
| 18:52:07 | Ruudi[bz] | so who's next? |
| 18:52:21 | Worf | bryjen? |
| 18:52:28 | bryjen | Worf: yes? |
| 18:52:32 | Widget | I have to leave for a few hours now. |
| 18:52:39 | Worf | do we have a game? |
| 18:52:43 | [TFF]reiner | so the frogs have had a dry day :-( |
| 18:52:45 | [TFF]CLQ | cries |
| 18:52:54 | strayer | CLQ....query |
| 18:52:56 | [TFF]Ginku | strong team bz and heavy lag for me |
| 18:53:00 | bryjen | Valoche: Resurrection next ? |
| 18:53:01 | Widget | Sniper, jh and Ruudi can play. |
| 18:53:08 | Widget | If there's any more games to be had. |
| 18:53:08 | captain_proton | Widget: hmm, iLLf8d might be here, free is not |
| 18:53:10 | [TFF]Valoche | muh? |
| 18:53:12 | Sniper | cu widget sleep ? |
| 18:53:17 | Worf | Ya Frogs, how about it? |
| 18:53:22 | Chestal | ginku: yes, your lag was strange, it was down to about 250ms near the end of the game, though |
| 18:53:26 | Widget | Sniper: No, I have to go get passport photos. |
| 18:53:38 | [TFF]Valoche | well, you are last, we are second to last, so that's be a balanced match |
| 18:53:38 | Widget | Sniper: If there's any other matches, you Ruudi and jh can play, OK? |
| 18:53:42 | Chestal | frogs vs. Resurrection might be interesting |
| 18:53:46 | Sniper | ok |
| 18:53:49 | Chestal | the two lowest rated teams :-) |
| 18:53:57 | captain_proton | haha |
| 18:53:59 | bryjen | Chestal: :P |
| 18:54:00 | [TFF]Ginku | :-) |
| 18:54:05 | Sniper | i could be a good game! |
| 18:54:08 | Sniper | it |
| 18:54:11 | captain_proton | Chestal: you = meanie |
| 18:54:14 | Widget | See you later. |
| 18:54:17 | Chestal | I just mean itshould be more even |
| 18:54:20 | [TFF]Ginku | lets fight frogs ! |
| 18:54:23 | [TFF]Valoche | Chestal: you = mole = vermin ;) |
| 18:54:24 | Sniper | so was i |
| 18:54:25 | Widget | Chestal: Sure. |
| 18:54:27 | bryjen | angelina: still here ? |
| 18:54:28 | [TFF]Valoche | okay let's fight!!!!! |
| 18:54:36 | Worf | We red ? |
| 18:54:37 | [TFF]Valoche | but just wait 2:44 |
| 18:54:41 | [TFF]Valoche | I'm downloading a big file |
| 18:54:41 | [TFF]Ginku | same server same colour ? |
| 18:54:43 | Widget | has a new player icon after being defeated by tankmann. |
| 18:54:47 | [TFF]Valoche | 2:30 now |
| 18:54:51 | Worf | ok lets go |
| 18:54:52 | [TFF]Ginku | k |
| 18:54:59 | [TFF]SGI_O2 | same server ? |
| 18:55:15 | Chestal | Widget: hmm, Tim+Struppi? |
| 18:55:22 | [TFF]Valoche | I'm downloading at 64KB/s, can't do better, please wait 110 more seconds |
| 18:55:23 | [TFF]reiner | das war eine riesige packung heute |
| 18:55:29 | Widget | Chestal: Yes. |
| 18:55:43 | [TFF]reiner | lief halt nich |
| 18:55:44 | [TFF]Valoche | same server, but NOT same map, PLEASE |
| 18:55:54 | [TFF]Valoche | that would give us an unfair advantage ;) |
| 18:55:56 | Chestal | yes, this was a hard map |
| 18:55:57 | Widget | Tim und Struppi, Tintin et Milou, Tintin and Snowy. |
| 18:55:59 | Chestal | made for a high score |
| 18:56:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | ya bad map it was |
| 18:56:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | :) |
| 18:56:16 | [TFF]CLQ | bye |
| 18:56:20 | Widget | Evil, evil map. |
| 18:56:21 | Widget | Bye. |
| 18:56:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | et home i got evil mousepad |
| 18:56:47 | [TFF]Valoche | 10 seconds left |
| 18:56:58 | bryjen | hmmm |
| 18:56:58 | [TFF]Valoche | ok I'm ready |
| 18:57:05 | bryjen | Hello, angelina ?? |
| 18:57:13 | angelina | bryjen: yeah still here, sorry..didnt see your mssg |
| 18:57:33 | bryjen | angelina: Ok . Us vs TFF jzaun.com 32000 |
| 18:57:42 | angelina | now? |
| 18:57:53 | [TFF]Valoche | this time I'd like to play the whole match |
| 18:57:53 | bryjen | if you're ready |
| 18:58:06 | angelina | k, 1min |
| 18:58:09 | [TFF]Valoche | messa already on server |
| 18:59:11 | [TFF]Valoche | nresurrection we're waiting for you |
| 18:59:23 | Chestal | hi Fant |
| 18:59:44 | bryjen | ack. killed the wrong window |
| 18:59:56 | bryjen | angelina: can you play now ? |
| 19:00:10 | angelina | i am in there now :) |
| 19:00:15 | [TFF]Valoche | nshe's already connected |
| 19:00:16 | FantaZee | hi all |
| 19:00:17 | bryjen | ok. in a sec |
| 19:00:18 | [TFF]Valoche | nya okay |
| 19:00:25 | FantaZee | hi ches |
| 19:00:29 | strayer | hi fanta |
| 19:00:44 | FantaZee | ajax oder 339 gesehn ? |
| 19:00:58 | Chestal | FantaZee: heute nicht,nein, ducati ist auch down |
| 19:01:10 | Chestal | matches on jzaun.com 32000 today |
| 19:01:21 | FantaZee | oh schade. was ist los mit duc ? |
| 19:02:11 | Chestal | fileserver gecrasht und bootet nicht mehr |
| 19:11:13 | FantaZee | bin wieder weg. cu |
| 19:21:51 | Sniper | lalala |
| 19:22:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | should get home |
| 19:22:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | but too lazy |
| 19:22:57 | Sniper | i need to do stuff at home |
| 19:23:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | to get high :? |
| 19:23:15 | Sniper | i dont think there is gonna be more opponents |
| 19:23:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | or stuff like what :? |
| 19:23:23 | Sniper | no :) |
| 19:23:37 | Sniper | Kiss my girl |
| 19:23:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah i think there is no ...jh is too wrecked anyway |
| 19:23:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah that kind of stuff |
| 19:23:58 | Sniper | whats bz channel |
| 19:23:59 | [BZ]Ruudi | takes high too |
| 19:24:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | bz dunno our channel i guess |
| 19:24:09 | Sniper | he does |
| 19:24:21 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm he is your girl :?? |
| 19:24:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah you mean jh |
| 19:24:39 | Sniper | ? jh or who |
| 19:24:57 | Sniper | no my girl is a girl |
| 19:25:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | heh nevermind i was talkin mess |
| 19:26:18 | Sniper | Im gonna leave, no more matches for me today |
| 19:26:38 | Sniper | bye |
| 19:31:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 19:36:22 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: talked to my friend |
| 19:36:30 | captain_proton | noof is just the first thing that popped into his head |
| 19:36:32 | captain_proton | no reference |
| 19:37:11 | captain_proton | patlabor221: question of you |
| 19:37:27 | patlabor221 | yes sah!! |
| 19:37:46 | captain_proton | how does one use this font class to draw text at an x,y position on the screen (in terms of pixels) |
| 19:38:35 | MrApathyCream | errrrrggg |
| 19:38:56 | MrApathyCream | pokes captain neutron in the eye |
| 19:38:59 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: though i know how much you enjoyed having peanut butter on your forhead |
| 19:39:07 | MrApathyCream | was pleasant |
| 19:39:21 | [TFF]Valoche | oh my oh my oh my oh my god |
| 19:39:32 | captain_proton | [TFF]Valoche: ? |
| 19:39:36 | patlabor221 | ok Cap |
| 19:39:42 | [TFF]reiner | bye team; was fun; bye all |
| 19:39:49 | Widget | [TFF]Valoche: Le pauvre. :( |
| 19:39:51 | patlabor221 | you put the GL context in Ortho mode |
| 19:39:54 | [TFF]Ginku | gute Nacht Reiner |
| 19:40:04 | patlabor221 | then ....... I have to go look at the code :) |
| 19:40:08 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:40:38 | bryjen | I swear there was a fish that swam across my screen! |
| 19:40:39 | Worf | So, we won one. yip-e |
| 19:40:51 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: hmm, seems it isn't neutron anyways |
| 19:40:56 | captain_proton | lurgyman: (it's a toss-up between captain positrino and llama man) |
| 19:41:22 | angelina | Worf: it was fun huh! |
| 19:41:32 | [TFF]Ginku | nsame fish here !! |
| 19:41:37 | [TFF]Valoche | nice work resurrection, you are now second to last, and we are last ;) |
| 19:41:38 | Worf | ya |
| 19:41:48 | Worf | you'er good |
| 19:41:48 | [TFF]Ginku | waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 19:42:04 | Chestal | the frogs discovered a new colour :-) |
| 19:42:06 | strayer | but it was really close.....can change next time again |
| 19:42:20 | Chestal | I really thought the frogs would win, they were leading 3-1 |
| 19:42:28 | patlabor221 | ok cap: you ready |
| 19:42:34 | captain_proton | patlabor221: ya |
| 19:42:37 | Worf | Angelina, I thought you said you weren't good? |
| 19:42:38 | [TFF]Valoche | yes, but resurrection suddenly started to play well, so... |
| 19:42:47 | angelina | i am not really |
| 19:42:55 | Worf | Yes you are |
| 19:43:03 | angelina | i was just tired of losing :) |
| 19:43:13 | patlabor221 | cap: call SetCharSize() to set the pixel size of one character |
| 19:43:28 | patlabor221 | cap: then call SetFont with the texture object ID |
| 19:43:32 | [TFF]Valoche | angelina: we saw that ;) |
| 19:43:39 | Worf | Me too. Good to win one. They were tough |
| 19:43:45 | patlabor221 | cap: but you only need to do those once |
| 19:43:57 | patlabor221 | cap: then put GL in ortho screen space |
| 19:44:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | frogs lost? |
| 19:44:16 | [TFF]Ginku | blah blah blah |
| 19:44:18 | strayer | bye all... |
| 19:44:20 | [TFF]Valoche | Ginku: we now are the worst team ever, the only thing we can do now is improve: that's the good point ot tonight ;) |
| 19:44:26 | bryjen | it kinda looed like the gnome panel fishy, but it went left to right across the middle of the display |
| 19:44:27 | angelina | harhar valoche, hey what was that swearing you said? :) it was in french? |
| 19:44:30 | patlabor221 | then call DrawString with a vertex that is the lower left corner of the text |
| 19:44:31 | Worf | Next time we won't be so nice and start playing for real. ;-) |
| 19:44:34 | [TFF]Ginku | lol indeed |
| 19:44:48 | [TFF]Valoche | angelina: yes it was, and I'm not proud of it ;-))) |
| 19:44:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | :) |
| 19:44:52 | patlabor221 | cap: and that'll draw it |
| 19:44:53 | doughecka | oink |
| 19:44:53 | doughecka | greetings and salutations! |
| 19:44:59 | [TFF]Valoche | (of what I said, not of being french (; ) |
| 19:45:01 | captain_proton | considers adding a right-justify mode |
| 19:45:22 | patlabor221 | cap: there were number of enhancements that it can do |
| 19:45:50 | patlabor221 | cap: it was just a basic class that I use, but it's nice and fast |
| 19:46:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | ok i'll go home cu |
| 19:46:04 | Worf | I have to go. be back later. cya |
| 19:46:23 | patlabor221 | caP; next thing I need to do is make it work with my texture manager so I don't have to tell it the ID and the size |
| 19:46:56 | angelina | going too..cya |
| 19:46:57 | patlabor221 | cap: and making the image font's isn't that easy |
| 19:46:59 | [TFF]Ginku | nbey Ruudi |
| 19:47:58 | [TFF]Valoche | TFF: well that was fun anyway, see you round, I'll go back to training ;-) |
| 19:48:15 | [TFF]Ginku | ok Valoche have fun |
| 19:48:23 | [TFF]Ginku | night |
| 19:48:38 | Chestal | good night, I'll gohome, too |
| 19:48:48 | [TFF]Ginku | thx Chestal |
| 19:48:49 | Chestal | and I hope we can repair the file server :-| |
| 19:52:27 | Widget | bzfquery jzaun.com 32000 |
| 19:52:37 | Widget | Hm.... bzbot is down. |
| 19:52:55 | patlabor221 | didn't it get stuck last night? |
| 19:52:58 | bryjen | Widget: yup. Chestal runs it. |
| 19:53:04 | Widget | Oh, yes. |
| 19:53:19 | bryjen | may be related to ducati's problems |
| 19:53:22 | Widget | bryjen: Congrats, BTW. |
| 19:53:29 | bryjen | Widget: Thx |
| 19:54:20 | bryjen | I'm still trying to figure out where the fish came from. |
| 19:54:32 | captain_proton | fishies from the sea... |
| 19:54:52 | bryjen | Fishies on my X display killing my fraterate in the middle of a match :( |
| 19:54:53 | Widget | bryjen: I told you. It's Wanda the Gnome Fish. |
| 19:54:59 | Widget | bryjen: Use KDE and your problems will go away. |
| 19:55:05 | bryjen | It just pops up at random times ?? |
| 19:55:08 | captain_proton | or just remove wanda |
| 19:55:17 | Widget | bryjen: No, TFF hired it. |
| 19:55:22 | Widget | bryjen: To show up at a critical moment. |
| 19:55:38 | bryjen | captain_proton: rm -r wanda how ? |
| 19:55:51 | captain_proton | bryjen: right click on the applet, remove from panel |
| 19:56:03 | bryjen | its not on my panel |
| 19:56:07 | captain_proton | then its not wanda |
| 19:56:09 | captain_proton | slaps Widget |
| 19:56:53 | bryjen | captain_proton: i would slap you with my fish, but it seems to have disappeared now |
| 19:56:55 | sussudio | i have suspicions that some people might be using modified clients, is there any way to confirm this? |
| 19:57:05 | jpablo | dum de dum, wanda popups some rare times, even if you don't have it on your planel. |
| 19:57:15 | captain_proton | bryjen: could it have been xscreensaver? |
| 19:57:25 | bryjen | in the middle of bz is NOT a good time |
| 19:57:31 | jpablo | it's a easter egg. |
| 19:57:41 | captain_proton | sussudio: not really - but most hacks are about as subtle as a sledgehammer |
| 19:57:44 | jpablo | in the panel itself not in the applet code. |
| 19:57:44 | bryjen | xscreensaver is running..... hmmm.... |
| 19:57:55 | sussudio | captain_proton: how about aimbots? |
| 19:58:07 | bryjen | jpablo: any way to kill it? |
| 19:58:20 | jpablo | humm, you can install the ximian panel, they removed it. |
| 19:58:28 | bryjen | scramble them eggs :) |
| 19:59:10 | captain_proton | sussudio: doubt someone would go to the trouble to use a mim client for that... |
| 19:59:44 | captain_proton | aimbots don't have quite the effect in bz anyway because shots can be dodged |
| 20:00:09 | Widget | Was ist ein aimbot? |
| 20:00:25 | Chestal | the simplest and most hard to detect cheat is to change the shot collision code |
| 20:00:55 | bryjen | Widget: man-in-the-middle program the tweaks the network stream to aim your shots at an opponent |
| 20:01:52 | Widget | Why will player registration in 1.8 not use passwords (at least exclusively)? |
| 20:02:23 | patlabor221 | I think it should use passhiku |
| 20:02:29 | bryjen | crypto keys thingy right? think of the keys as REALLY long passwords |
| 20:02:32 | patlabor221 | makes it more interesting |
| 20:03:34 | captain_proton | keys also provide a method of 'signing' data so you can be sure that karma updates are coming from the right player |
| 20:04:14 | bryjen | and you don't have to transmit the "secret" across the 'net |
| 20:04:31 | Widget | What about playing from multiple computers? |
| 20:04:41 | captain_proton | Widget: you can duplicate your key on all your machiens |
| 20:04:59 | bryjen | export the key to a file/floppy disk ? |
| 20:05:03 | Widget | But you can no longer just find a computer somewhere and play it. |
| 20:05:11 | Widget | I don't have a floppy drive. |
| 20:05:20 | captain_proton | Widget: if you want to use a public terminal or such you'd have to sign in anonymously |
| 20:05:26 | bryjen | You could still play. just not as your secured id |
| 20:05:35 | Widget | Evil, evil. |
| 20:05:45 | bryjen | Widget: no removeable media drive in your computer ? |
| 20:05:51 | Widget | bryjen: No. |
| 20:05:58 | captain_proton | Widget: i find it more evil when new players accuse me of cheating because of impostors |
| 20:06:02 | paul | Widget: email? |
| 20:06:05 | bryjen | floppy, ZIP, CDR(w), DVDR(W) |
| 20:06:13 | Widget | paul: Ah, that would work. |
| 20:06:16 | Widget | bryjen: None. |
| 20:06:21 | Widget | But ya, email would work. |
| 20:06:26 | bryjen | Wow. Xterminal ? |
| 20:06:50 | Chestal | is away: fort |
| 20:06:57 | Chestal | urgs |
| 20:07:02 | paul | bryjen: if he was on an xterminal it wouldnt matter. :) (key would need to be on the server) |
| 20:07:03 | Chestal | did it send this as an action? |
| 20:07:43 | captain_proton | yes it did |
| 20:07:47 | bryjen | paul: uh, yeah, silly me. Just amazed at a machine w/o removable media. What happens when you need an alternate boot device? |
| 20:07:55 | Chestal | waah, have to find wehre I can disable this in xchat |
| 20:08:02 | Widget | 13* 11Chestal is away: fort |
| 20:08:06 | Widget | 2<11Chestal2> urgs |
| 20:08:09 | bryjen | or do you have a cd-ROM, Widget ? |
| 20:08:11 | Widget | 2<11Chestal2> did it send this as an action? |
| 20:08:17 | Widget | bryjen: Nope. |
| 20:08:24 | Chestal | I think I disabled it |
| 20:08:57 | Widget | bryjen: Or rather. |
| 20:09:01 | bryjen | Ok, do you have a hard disk ? :) |
| 20:09:02 | Widget | bryjen: Yes, I have a CD-Rom. |
| 20:09:09 | Widget | bryjen: But not a CD writer. |
| 20:09:17 | patlabor221 | boot to a ram disk man |
| 20:09:26 | Chestal | boot? what's that? |
| 20:09:27 | bryjen | Silly me again. No WRITEABLE removeable media. |
| 20:09:53 | patlabor221 | wel you just do it once |
| 20:10:04 | paul | bryjen: well, he mightnt have that kind of privilege to the machine. |
| 20:10:07 | bryjen | patlabor221: where do you read the image from? Neural interface? :) |
| 20:10:10 | captain_proton | Chestal: i think its a windows thing |
| 20:10:36 | bryjen | captain_proton: Yes, Windows users like to boot their PC's quite often :) |
| 20:10:40 | patlabor221 | retinal implants |
| 20:10:58 | paul | bryjen: eg, i maintain a bunch of machines where the users do not have rights to use the media, plus the machines have firmware/bios and/or boatloader passwords to prevent unauthorised single user boot ups. |
| 20:11:01 | patlabor221 | can not wait till the nonvolitile ram hits the market |
| 20:11:12 | bryjen | Chestal: what won't your server do ? Now we see the problem ;) |
| 20:11:34 | captain_proton | bryjen: i guess my friends and i -did- invent the sport of boot racing |
| 20:12:43 | bryjen | paul: yes, i'd love to have those at work. I was thinking of a home PC. ASSuMEd |
| 20:12:51 | doughecka | woo |
| 20:13:14 | doughecka | hihihi Widget |
| 20:13:15 | doughecka | greetings patlabor221 |
| 20:13:15 | doughecka | hey bryjen |
| 20:13:15 | doughecka | moin captain_proton |
| 20:13:22 | paul | patlabor221: nvram media already exists. |
| 20:13:34 | captain_proton | doughecka: i'm not german |
| 20:13:37 | paul | patlabor221: you can get PCI cards full of nvram |
| 20:14:03 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:14:04 | doughecka | howdy captain_proton |
| 20:14:15 | patlabor221 | but there is this new thin film stuff |
| 20:14:34 | bryjen | apologizes to Chestal for making jokes about broken servers |
| 20:14:39 | patlabor221 | looks to be fast engouh to replace regular ram |
| 20:14:58 | paul | patlabor221: ah.. enjoy the wait. :) |
| 20:15:08 | bryjen | If any I'm responsible for were busted. I wouldn't appreciate jokes about it. Sry. |
| 20:15:22 | doughecka | bryjen: what happened? |
| 20:15:34 | bryjen | doughecka: ducati is down |
| 20:15:37 | doughecka | oh? |
| 20:15:41 | doughecka | what for? |
| 20:15:49 | bryjen | doughecka: a while |
| 20:15:52 | captain_proton | haha |
| 20:16:28 | doughecka | what happened to ducati? |
| 20:18:11 | captain_proton | how expensive is it to repair a ducati when it crashes? =} |
| 20:18:53 | Widget | The motorcycle? |
| 20:19:00 | Widget | Oh. :) |
| 20:19:26 | captain_proton | grins |
| 20:19:31 | patlabor221 | has there been hardware failure? |
| 20:21:03 | paul | dont know about ducati's but a little slide down the road of an aprilia ended up costing over 3k. |
| 20:21:17 | bryjen | captain_proton: more importantly, how painful is it to then user |
| 20:21:33 | captain_proton | bryjen: ahh good point |
| 20:22:07 | paul | bryjen: depends on whether they are wearing good kit or not. you really want to be wanting leather when your ducati crashes. |
| 20:22:48 | paul | (Note to doug: its a skit between bikes and computers - no need to go buy leathers to protect yourself from computer crashes) |
| 20:23:00 | captain_proton | paul: we're not really asking, just making play-on-words |
| 20:23:04 | doughecka | I gathered that... |
| 20:23:07 | paul | :) |
| 20:23:26 | bryjen | saw a guy on a harley yesterday wearing a tattered t-shirt, cut-off jeans, and sandals. of course no helmet either. |
| 20:23:27 | paul | captain_proton: aye - i'm playing along. |
| 20:23:43 | captain_proton | aha |
| 20:23:48 | doughecka | bryjen: thats KY for ya... |
| 20:23:49 | patlabor221 | he's asking for the road rash |
| 20:24:08 | paul | bryjen: eek. i'm just amazed at some of those harley-type bike riders. |
| 20:24:29 | captain_proton | doesn't know what an aprilia is |
| 20:24:46 | doughecka | and I am back to reading my ebook |
| 20:24:56 | paul | bryjen: and when they /do/ wear leather, it's just a leather waistcoat or leather trousers that you could buy in a high-street shop. |
| 20:24:58 | bryjen | i get this image, of myself shredding mozarella cheese to make pizza.... |
| 20:26:04 | bryjen | mmmmmm, pizza.. |
| 20:26:17 | captain_proton | ponders leather trousers |
| 20:26:36 | paul | captain_proton: http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin/photos/galway.may.2001/paul.bike.jpeg |
| 20:26:39 | patlabor221 | ponders pizza |
| 20:26:54 | patlabor221 | cap, you go play with your leather hot pants on your own |
| 20:27:01 | patlabor221 | if your new girl is into that |
| 20:27:04 | captain_proton | patlabor221: i own no such pants |
| 20:27:07 | bryjen | silly patlabor221, pizza is for eating! |
| 20:27:12 | patlabor221 | but you ponder them |
| 20:27:24 | patlabor221 | mmmm pizza pants |
| 20:27:40 | patlabor221 | better then the jam trousers |
| 20:27:57 | bryjen | hard to call it pondering while i'm drooling |
| 20:28:05 | bryjen | :) |
| 20:28:07 | patlabor221 | your drooling over pants? |
| 20:28:19 | paul | eeeuuwwww |
| 20:28:20 | bryjen | no, pizza |
| 20:28:21 | paul | :) |
| 20:28:33 | bryjen | but it may drip on my pants :( |
| 20:28:47 | captain_proton | patlabor221: could you email me the image you use for the upper left HUD element in http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/Images/clouds2.jpg? |
| 20:28:49 | patlabor221 | dude, one word " bib " |
| 20:28:52 | captain_proton | or dcc |
| 20:28:53 | captain_proton | or whatnot? |
| 20:29:12 | patlabor221 | ohh the batery bullet thing? |
| 20:29:18 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 20:29:31 | patlabor221 | the texture isn't exactly that color |
| 20:29:36 | patlabor221 | but yeah |
| 20:29:44 | captain_proton | i just want the shape |
| 20:29:47 | patlabor221 | the entire UI is shaded in code |
| 20:29:59 | Widget | The Asian Plot to take over North America. |
| 20:30:03 | paul | patlabor221: can you make the bza/Images dir do indexing? |
| 20:30:07 | bryjen | Widget: ? |
| 20:30:22 | patlabor221 | yes I can |
| 20:30:39 | patlabor221 | well at least I can ask my friend who knows ASP to do if for me |
| 20:30:50 | patlabor221 | I'm not the best with the web things |
| 20:30:52 | paul | surely its just an IIS setting? |
| 20:31:08 | patlabor221 | see I don't know |
| 20:31:15 | paul | ah.. |
| 20:31:16 | patlabor221 | and I don't have access to the server setings |
| 20:31:25 | patlabor221 | I don't even know what it's running on |
| 20:31:35 | patlabor221 | I just give them $$$ every yeah |
| 20:31:38 | paul | IIS it seems, judging by the error message. |
| 20:31:44 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 20:31:54 | paul | (a guess - cant say for sure) |
| 20:32:22 | patlabor221 | nor can I |
| 20:32:38 | patlabor221 | they were just the cheapest one I could find that had decent speed |
| 20:32:38 | paul | it is: Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 |
| 20:32:56 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, i could host stuff for ya |
| 20:32:57 | patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 20:33:23 | patlabor221 | cap: thanks this is fine, it's got it's own email and everything |
| 20:33:27 | patlabor221 | shoping carts |
| 20:33:40 | patlabor221 | and I have about 6 aditioanl dommains atached to my account |
| 20:33:51 | patlabor221 | it's only $100 a year for the first |
| 20:33:55 | patlabor221 | then $50 a year for the others |
| 20:34:03 | patlabor221 | with 500 megs of space |
| 20:34:04 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:34:10 | paul | patlabor221: that includes everything? |
| 20:34:14 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:34:24 | patlabor221 | and they pay the domain fees |
| 20:34:36 | paul | so you pay $400? |
| 20:34:43 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/amo.tga |
| 20:34:44 | paul | per annum? |
| 20:35:04 | patlabor221 | I pay $100, the other domains are for friends so they give me $50 a year |
| 20:35:12 | paul | ah. |
| 20:35:15 | patlabor221 | but yeah total it's like $400 |
| 20:35:27 | patlabor221 | and we each have our own mail and 500 megs |
| 20:35:53 | patlabor221 | and suposedly "unlimited" transfers |
| 20:36:08 | paul | so they make about $70 on the first domain, and about $20 on the rest (per annum) |
| 20:36:20 | patlabor221 | I guess |
| 20:36:32 | patlabor221 | that dosn't seem like a lit |
| 20:36:32 | blackhound | hi guys |
| 20:36:40 | patlabor221 | perhaps other use more of there services |
| 20:36:52 | blackhound | what happened to everyone's favorite ctf server? |
| 20:36:55 | bryjen | then there's hardware and comms costs |
| 20:37:01 | patlabor221 | they will set you up with all kinds of comerice stuff if you want |
| 20:37:05 | paul | patlabor221: it isnt a lot. web hosting is /very/ competitive. |
| 20:37:13 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:37:34 | patlabor221 | I've been with these guys for about a year and a half and we are all happy with it |
| 20:38:01 | patlabor221 | only thing I wish they had was a list server |
| 20:38:17 | paul | though, they probably get bulk rates on domains. (ie a bit more profit). |
| 20:38:31 | patlabor221 | I think they are a resistrar |
| 20:38:54 | patlabor221 | they have good support to |
| 20:38:54 | paul | patlabor221: ah, then domains cost them only $5 or so. (or less even) |
| 20:39:01 | Widget | hihihi, blackhound. It's down. jzaun.com 32000 works. |
| 20:39:12 | patlabor221 | allway fast to get back to me when I have a question |
| 20:39:23 | patlabor221 | they even let me run executables for CGIs |
| 20:39:30 | blackhound | thanks |
| 20:40:00 | patlabor221 | cap: what are you gonna do with my hud thing? |
| 20:40:42 | captain_proton | patlabor221: gonna use the shape for the scorebox in pong |
| 20:40:51 | patlabor221 | ahhhhh |
| 20:40:58 | patlabor221 | it is a nice shape for stuff like that |
| 20:41:44 | captain_proton | yes |
| 20:41:50 | captain_proton | might throw powerup icons in there too |
| 20:46:49 | sussudio | bah some people are just morons |
| 20:53:53 | patlabor221 | there, now thre's a page with thumbnails and all that at http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/ |
| 20:56:04 | captain_proton | patlabor221: don't suppose you happen to have the code for a tstripped skybox and cube lying around? |
| 20:56:18 | patlabor221 | no, mine is not striped yet |
| 20:56:38 | captain_proton | because triangle strips make brain hurt |
| 20:56:39 | patlabor221 | but it should be the same as the strips I made for the walls in bzedit |
| 20:56:46 | captain_proton | ahh yes |
| 20:56:49 | captain_proton | just...um... |
| 20:56:52 | captain_proton | backwards |
| 20:57:00 | patlabor221 | no the same |
| 20:57:05 | patlabor221 | cus they all face in |
| 20:57:15 | captain_proton | ohh the -other- walls |
| 20:57:16 | patlabor221 | just cap it with a quad |
| 20:57:21 | patlabor221 | yeah the outer walls |
| 20:57:27 | captain_proton | ohh thats cheating though |
| 20:57:34 | captain_proton | there's no way to make a completely tstripped cube? |
| 20:57:38 | patlabor221 | it's 4 damn verts |
| 20:57:44 | patlabor221 | I'm sure there is |
| 20:57:49 | patlabor221 | but it's 4 damed verts |
| 20:57:54 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 20:58:02 | captain_proton | 8 actually |
| 20:58:04 | patlabor221 | and I don't want to figure it out now |
| 20:58:12 | captain_proton | needs an all-encompassing skybox |
| 20:58:13 | patlabor221 | you puting a bottom on it too? |
| 20:58:17 | patlabor221 | ohhh |
| 20:58:18 | patlabor221 | ok 8 |
| 20:58:53 | patlabor221 | now what would be funny would be if those 8 verts theew you over some limit on the GPU |
| 20:59:31 | patlabor221 | hmmmm |
| 20:59:46 | patlabor221 | you'd have to duplicate at least some verts to make a tristrip cube |
| 20:59:54 | patlabor221 | for the caps |
| 21:00:36 | patlabor221 | hmm I think it is posible |
| 21:01:15 | patlabor221 | goes and gets the Gibbs and Associates standard cubic refence device |
| 21:01:17 | captain_proton | what should i specify for near and far in ortho mode? =P |
| 21:01:28 | patlabor221 | a clenex box |
| 21:01:35 | patlabor221 | I do 0 to 10 |
| 21:01:49 | patlabor221 | but its realy up to you |
| 21:02:06 | patlabor221 | theres an example in my editor code |
| 21:02:08 | captain_proton | glMatrixMode(GL_PROJECTION); |
| 21:02:09 | captain_proton | glLoadIdentity(); |
| 21:02:09 | captain_proton | glOrtho(0, 1024, 0, 768, 0, 10); |
| 21:02:09 | captain_proton | glMatrixMode(GL_MODELVIEW); |
| 21:02:09 | captain_proton | glLoadIdentity(); |
| 21:02:14 | captain_proton | that would be correctz0r? |
| 21:02:46 | patlabor221 | let me see what LGE does |
| 21:03:23 | patlabor221 | glMatrixMode (GL_PROJECTION); |
| 21:03:23 | patlabor221 | glLoadIdentity (); |
| 21:03:23 | patlabor221 | glOrtho(0.0,(double)m_iViewportX, |
| 21:03:24 | patlabor221 | 0.0,(double)m_iViewportY, |
| 21:03:24 | patlabor221 | 0.0,100.0); |
| 21:03:24 | patlabor221 | glMatrixMode(GL_MODELVIEW); |
| 21:03:26 | patlabor221 | glPushMatrix(); |
| 21:03:28 | patlabor221 | glLoadIdentity(); |
| 21:03:30 | patlabor221 | glDisable(GL_LIGHTING); |
| 21:03:56 | patlabor221 | that's after I do all my "real" 3d stuff |
| 21:04:06 | captain_proton | yes of course |
| 21:04:12 | captain_proton | probably should disable depth testing too |
| 21:04:15 | patlabor221 | proalby don't need all those identitys tho |
| 21:04:27 | patlabor221 | if you are going to draw orderd yes |
| 21:05:04 | patlabor221 | I don't allways draw in z order so I don't do it in the engine class, it's up to the caller to do it |
| 21:05:47 | captain_proton | not drawing z ordered here |
| 21:06:02 | patlabor221 | then you will want to leave the depth test on |
| 21:06:16 | patlabor221 | unless you have semi transparent stuff |
| 21:07:30 | captain_proton | i do have semi transparent ;) |
| 21:08:22 | patlabor221 | overlaped? |
| 21:09:10 | captain_proton | its exactly what yours has |
| 21:09:21 | captain_proton | shows background stuff behind it |
| 21:09:40 | patlabor221 | I mean ortho stuff overlaped |
| 21:09:41 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 21:10:06 | captain_proton | shouldn't be |
| 21:10:19 | patlabor221 | cus for Items I draw that are made up of multiple planes, I draw in z order |
| 21:11:16 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 21:11:16 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 21:12:01 | patlabor221 | I think bzbot is stuck |
| 21:12:20 | patlabor221 | ohh no ,he's gone |
| 21:13:17 | jzaun | sucks... oh well |
| 21:16:20 | | doughecka was last seen on #bzflag 51 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: and I am back to reading my ebook [Sun Aug 4 21:24:46 2002] |
| 21:16:20 | Noodleman | ibot: seen doughecka |
| 21:16:28 | sussudio | bah people always chicken out when i have a GM |
| 21:19:31 | Noodleman | doesn't anyone have anything interesting to talk about? |
| 21:19:49 | sussudio | pants? |
| 21:20:00 | patlabor221 | pizza pants! |
| 21:20:27 | Noodleman | interesting... college hazing? |
| 21:20:36 | Noodleman | is that what pizza pants is? hehe |
| 21:20:51 | sussudio | samurai pizza pants |
| 21:21:33 | patlabor221 | awwwwwwww yeahhhhhh |
| 21:21:50 | patlabor221 | ninja pizza pants |
| 21:24:29 | Widget | Can someone else run bzbot, perhaps? |
| 21:25:34 | patlabor221 | maybe someone tried to |
| 21:25:41 | patlabor221 | but it was like in highlander |
| 21:25:45 | patlabor221 | and they had to fight |
| 21:25:58 | patlabor221 | and there was this huge bot sword fight |
| 21:26:03 | patlabor221 | and one won |
| 21:26:12 | patlabor221 | and shouted "there can be only one" |
| 21:26:14 | patlabor221 | and then left |
| 21:26:22 | patlabor221 | just a theroy |
| 22:09:28 | Eisbar | uh? |
| 22:33:53 | blackhound | lag |
| 22:48:33 | Worf | Hi all. |
| 22:49:05 | Worf | Paul, do we (Resurrection) have a match? |
| 22:49:49 | angelina | Worf: i dunno, brygen said he might have something arranged...but he's not here |
| 22:50:03 | Worf | ok, thanks |
| 22:50:13 | angelina | he'll be back he said |
| 22:50:27 | Worf | I C |
| 22:51:32 | Worf | II really need to find out more about this IRC. I just started using it. |
| 22:53:57 | angelina | www.irc.org |
| 23:00:11 | bryjen | hi all |
| 23:00:16 | Worf | Hi Bryjen |
| 23:00:28 | angelina | hi bryjen |
| 23:01:16 | bryjen | any other teams ? |
| 23:01:47 | Worf | Looking for a fight? ;-) |
| 23:02:01 | angelina | he always is... |
| 23:02:10 | bryjen | Ooops. I thought Avengers were on for tonight. |
| 23:02:18 | bryjen | Lemme double check |
| 23:03:04 | bryjen | Ratz |
| 23:03:13 | Worf | Whatsup |
| 23:03:34 | bryjen | I confused some postings |
| 23:04:08 | bryjen | Ski asked about 24UTC *Monday*, but he'd also posted under the Frogs challenge for today |
| 23:04:28 | captain_proton | patlabor221: alive? |
| 23:05:36 | bryjen | although, technically, 00:00 or 24:00 is the first minute of the new day......... |
| 23:05:59 | Worf | 24UTC, hmm, I promissed to take my daughter to the library tomorrow. |
| 23:06:06 | bryjen | and I don't think 24:00 is correct notation anyway |
| 23:06:16 | Worf | Guess I'll have to miss that match |
| 23:06:22 | Worf | oh |
| 23:06:32 | bryjen | no prob. splitting hairs |
| 23:06:37 | Worf | ya |
| 23:06:57 | | Wing was last seen on #bzflag 3 days, 18 hours, 3 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: bye [Thu Aug 1 06:03:57 2002] |
| 23:06:57 | bryjen | ibot: seen Wing ? |
| 23:07:05 | Worf | I'll be back by 7 |
| 23:07:17 | Worf | central |
| 23:07:53 | bryjen | Central (Daylight) = UTC - 5 : 00:00 UTC - 5 = 19:00 CDT = 7 PM |
| 23:08:18 | Worf | I thought it was -6 |
| 23:08:30 | bryjen | Standard (Non-Daylight) is -6 |
| 23:08:36 | Worf | oh ya |
| 23:08:49 | Worf | cool |
| 23:09:11 | doughecka | Greetings and Salutations people of the land of BZ! |
| 23:10:24 | patlabor221 | not so much a land as it is a rectiliniar plane |
| 23:10:38 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:10:55 | bryjen | please, no, i get quesy on planes. |
| 23:11:23 | doughecka | how about a flat plain? |
| 23:11:40 | captain_proton | patlabor221: ! |
| 23:11:51 | bryjen | hmmm, come to think of it, all the ones i've been in were kinda round.... |
| 23:12:01 | Worf | flat plains don't fly well |
| 23:12:01 | captain_proton | patlabor221: drawing these scoreboxes doesn't seem to be working =/ |
| 23:12:26 | doughecka | ya know, there IS a diference between planes, and plains.... |
| 23:12:44 | bryjen | i prefer hills too |
| 23:12:52 | doughecka | hm |
| 23:12:56 | bryjen | is too picky |
| 23:12:58 | doughecka | live with it |
| 23:13:03 | captain_proton | patlabor221: i'm gonna PM you with code and see if you notice anything: |
| 23:13:55 | Worf | Anyone here working on the BZ code |
| 23:14:07 | doughecka | nah |
| 23:14:11 | doughecka | its too boring |
| 23:14:23 | sussudio | today's code is "pasty white coder" |
| 23:14:31 | captain_proton | not at the moment |
| 23:14:33 | patlabor221 | cap: how are you drawing them |
| 23:14:44 | patlabor221 | there is a class in that code that'll do it |
| 23:15:01 | bryjen | angelina, Worf, paul : so does 7PM central (00:00 UTC) tomorrow work for Us vs Avengers rematch ? |
| 23:15:24 | Worf | I have an idea. Can the tanks in the radar show what direction they'er pointed? |
| 23:15:39 | captain_proton | they could |
| 23:15:39 | Worf | yes |
| 23:15:43 | angelina | bryjen: sure |
| 23:15:44 | captain_proton | i think they did at some point that that was rejected |
| 23:15:53 | doughecka | captain_proton: whY? |
| 23:15:54 | bryjen | Worf: I think that's been suggested in one of the forums |
| 23:16:19 | Worf | I would love it. I always watch the radar |
| 23:16:30 | Widget | I think that would change the nature of the game. |
| 23:16:45 | Widget | The radar should just show positions of tanks, but not their direction, IMHO. |
| 23:16:45 | Worf | you may be right about that |
| 23:16:57 | captain_proton | doughecka: it would kill some of the decks strategies |
| 23:16:59 | Widget | Sure, it would make it easier. But.. |
| 23:16:59 | bryjen | gives away a extra tiny bit of info. but an important bit. |
| 23:17:00 | captain_proton | for example |
| 23:17:08 | doughecka | captain_proton: ahh |
| 23:17:46 | Worf | for example, which way they are about to move |
| 23:17:47 | | paul was last seen on #bzflag 2 hours, 38 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: patlabor221: ah, then domains cost them only $5 or so. (or less even) [Sun Aug 4 21:38:54 2002] |
| 23:17:47 | bryjen | ibot: seen paul ? |
| 23:18:25 | Widget | ¤5 |
| 23:18:29 | captain_proton | gotta go |
| 23:18:31 | Widget | |
| 23:18:34 | Widget | Bye, captain_proton. |
| 23:18:37 | sussudio | i would like the radar to show the mental state of the players. green = just woke up, blue = played straight for 12 hours, green = played for 3 days, is going to throw up |
| 23:18:51 | bryjen | 2 greens ? |
| 23:18:57 | Widget | sussudio: You throw up after just three days? |
| 23:19:03 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:19:09 | sussudio | Widget: only if i had doritos |
| 23:19:11 | Worf | bryjen: I just talked to Paul before you logged in |
| 23:19:30 | jpablo | wow, now some team have paul ! :\ |
| 23:20:00 | bryjen | I think paul is closer to UTC. if so 00:00 may be a bit late for him. |
| 23:22:19 | Worf | bryjen: Sorry, I didn't talk to Paul. He didn't respond, Angelina did. My booboo |
| 23:22:35 | bryjen | NP |
| 23:22:55 | Widget | Paul is UTC+1. |
| 23:23:01 | Worf | Well, I must go. Cya tommorrow night |
| 23:23:11 | Worf | bye all |
| 23:25:21 | bryjen | Widget: ty |
| 23:29:38 | patlabor221 | I think 1.8 needs a disco mode |
| 23:29:52 | bryjen | disco ? |
| 23:30:05 | patlabor221 | yup, 70s disco |
| 23:30:20 | angelina | now your talkin' |
| 23:30:23 | patlabor221 | have a mirored ball come down and lights falsh |
| 23:30:28 | bryjen | as in light source model ? |
| 23:30:29 | patlabor221 | and have it play disco inferno |
| 23:30:36 | patlabor221 | at random |
| 23:30:52 | patlabor221 | and all the tanks should dance as they move |
| 23:31:06 | bryjen | now your inhaling too deep |
| 23:31:17 | angelina | :) |
| 23:31:31 | patlabor221 | hey veryone needs a little disco inferno every so often |
| 23:32:00 | bryjen | we could probly get gerbil to do a nightclub map tho |
| 23:32:20 | patlabor221 | it would have to have the ball |
| 23:32:29 | patlabor221 | and flashing lights on the floor |
| 23:32:39 | patlabor221 | and big hair |
| 23:32:42 | bryjen | dance floor, DJ booth, restrooms.... |
| 23:33:00 | patlabor221 | bar, cover guy at the door |
| 23:33:03 | patlabor221 | bouncers |
| 23:33:28 | patlabor221 | and have to add a "totatly wasted" flag |
| 23:33:36 | angelina | you must first kill bouncer bot tank to get in |
| 23:33:48 | patlabor221 | or sneak by |
| 23:33:58 | patlabor221 | "im with the band" |
| 23:34:05 | angelina | yeah |
| 23:34:05 | patlabor221 | that allways workd for me |
| 23:34:19 | patlabor221 | but I do have the roadie geene |
| 23:37:41 | patlabor221 | it would be nice if maps could include rules like that |
| 23:38:32 | patlabor221 | but that would require a plugin for game logic |
| 23:38:52 | bryjen | i've got my world files named something.bzw and command line options in somthing.bzs and a script that runs the server with them |
| 23:39:20 | bryjen | not anything as custom as your disco obviously |
| 23:40:21 | bryjen | plugins might need distributing to the clients... |
| 23:40:48 | patlabor221 | they would |
| 23:41:03 | patlabor221 | and geting something that would work on all OS's would be a task in itself |
| 23:41:22 | patlabor221 | have to be some kind of scripting language, or interpeted by bz |
| 23:41:49 | bryjen | a macro lang of sorts. you wouldn't want to send real code anyway. trust and security issues |
| 23:42:58 | patlabor221 | well I hope to have plugins in my little BZA thing |
| 23:43:09 | bryjen | BZ-A ? |
| 23:43:14 | patlabor221 | at least all the map ents will be them |
| 23:43:22 | patlabor221 | just a temp name for now |
| 23:43:29 | patlabor221 | I don't know what I'll call it |
| 23:43:44 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/ |
| 23:43:50 | bryjen | this the screenshots you've been showing off ? |
| 23:43:54 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:44:03 | bryjen | clicks there |
| 23:44:13 | patlabor221 | moslty I just use it to test things |
| 23:44:19 | paul | bryjen: 00:00 UTC manana - 's ok by me. |
| 23:44:35 | bryjen | paul: not too late ? |
| 23:44:45 | patlabor221 | it's been usefull tho some of the stuff is gonna help for the 1.8 file converter |
| 23:44:57 | angelina | patlabor221: wow, that looks so cool |
| 23:45:16 | bryjen | is that your prototype disco ball in the top left ? :) |
| 23:45:16 | patlabor221 | see everyone says that |
| 23:45:21 | bryjen | needs a polish |
| 23:45:22 | paul | bryjen: nah.. i stay up late most nights. |
| 23:45:30 | patlabor221 | but I think they look too bland |
| 23:45:32 | paul | passes bryjen the wax |
| 23:45:38 | bryjen | paul: Ok |
| 23:45:54 | patlabor221 | I don't think that's a disco ball, I think it's the sun |
| 23:45:58 | angelina | but i am eisly entertained patlabor221, so dont go by me |
| 23:46:16 | bryjen | uh, its gray/green ? |
| 23:46:18 | patlabor221 | well I hope to make it look a lot better |
| 23:46:23 | patlabor221 | ohh that thing |
| 23:46:35 | patlabor221 | that's a sphere with the green latern on it |
| 23:46:40 | bryjen | yes, your OTHER left. sheesh, i'm the one in KY |
| 23:46:42 | patlabor221 | just part of the map test |
| 23:46:53 | patlabor221 | it just sat there and spined |
| 23:46:59 | patlabor221 | or is it span? |
| 23:47:03 | patlabor221 | spuned? |
| 23:47:11 | bryjen | don't span very far tho |
| 23:48:08 | patlabor221 | I don't know if I'll keep the name |
| 23:48:15 | patlabor221 | don't want to make anyone mad |
| 23:48:25 | patlabor221 | but BZA is better then it's first name |
| 23:49:09 | bryjen | TankGame2k2 ? |
| 23:49:14 | patlabor221 | no not that one |
| 23:49:25 | patlabor221 | it's very first name |
| 23:49:28 | bryjen | is one the windowbar |
| 23:49:33 | bryjen | s/one/on |
| 23:49:36 | patlabor221 | was "sarlack horror beyond imaginaion" |
| 23:49:47 | patlabor221 | yeah that was it's first name change |
| 23:49:48 | bryjen | uh, ok |
| 23:49:53 | angelina | thats not that bad |
| 23:50:09 | patlabor221 | thenit became pocket tanks |
| 23:50:18 | angelina | i could be sarlack horror beyond imaginaiongirl |
| 23:50:22 | bryjen | ewww, and its a winblow windowbar too... |
| 23:50:40 | patlabor221 | it's now using SDL so the libs work in linux too |
| 23:51:05 | patlabor221 | if I kept the first name I'd be sued by Geroge Lucas |
| 23:51:22 | bryjen | angelina: i like bz-girl better. less to type :) |
| 23:51:23 | patlabor221 | I just need to get my texture manager ported to linux now |
| 23:51:58 | bryjen | besides. what's a sarlack ? |
| 23:52:11 | patlabor221 | in return of the jedi |
| 23:52:29 | bryjen | Ok |
| 23:52:30 | patlabor221 | that thing in a pit they were chuckin people into |
| 23:53:09 | bryjen | ahh |
| 23:59:54 | patlabor221 | I think I'm gonna have to find somone to help me with the linux libs tho, that's not my best area |
