| 00:13:44 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 00:13:47 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 00:13:55 | Doug_um_busy | what is the brtinnia? |
| 00:14:04 | Doug_um_busy | a encyclopedia? |
| 00:15:22 | Widget | No. |
| 00:15:29 | Widget | It's a Roman province. |
| 00:16:03 | Doug_um_busy | oh |
| 00:16:04 | Doug_um_busy | I see |
| 00:16:09 | Doug_um_busy | said the blind man |
| 00:16:15 | Doug_um_busy | (as he picked up the hammer and saw) |
| 00:16:29 | Doug_um_busy | :D |
| 00:18:23 | dinah | Widget: whats the matter you dont think i rule? |
| 00:18:32 | Doug_um_busy | heh |
| 00:18:54 | | dinah: excuse me? |
| 00:18:54 | dinah | ibot: do i rule |
| 00:19:00 | dinah | he means yes |
| 00:19:13 | Widget | You may rule, But Britannia rules _the waves_. |
| 00:19:14 | Doug_um_busy | hehe |
| 00:19:19 | Doug_um_busy | ah |
| 00:19:23 | dinah | longs for topic protection |
| 00:19:26 | Doug_um_busy | I see a diference |
| 00:21:38 | Doug_um_busy | bah |
| 00:21:54 | Doug_um_busy | how do I find the halfway point on a road trip? |
| 00:21:59 | Doug_um_busy | like I go halfway |
| 00:22:04 | Doug_um_busy | hes goes halfway |
| 00:22:19 | Doug_um_busy | we meet in middle |
| 00:22:21 | Doug_um_busy | hmmmm |
| 00:22:53 | dinah | goes to talk bzflag on #mapquest |
| 00:22:53 | Doug_um_busy | hacks up a program to do it |
| 00:23:09 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 00:23:12 | Doug_um_busy | nobody is there |
| 00:23:17 | Doug_um_busy | mapquest eh? |
| 00:23:20 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 00:23:24 | Doug_um_busy | I used mapblast |
| 00:23:45 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 00:23:48 | Doug_um_busy | that was strange |
| 00:23:53 | Doug_um_busy | kicked me too |
| 00:24:58 | dinah | has discoverd a way to capture/uncapture the mouse on-the-fly while observer |
| 00:25:04 | Doug_um_busy | oh? |
| 00:25:06 | Doug_um_busy | how? |
| 00:25:10 | Doug_um_busy | pray tell |
| 00:25:14 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 00:25:35 | Doug_um_busy | pray tell how to do it? |
| 00:30:56 | paul | Widget: britannia rules the waves? pah... remember we were talking about history yesterday? google for Edwin de Ruijter (or de Ruyter as english might spell it) |
| 00:31:03 | paul | dutchman |
| 00:31:14 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 00:31:57 | Doug_um_busy | moo |
| 00:32:14 | iLLf8d | anyone up for a bit of ctf? |
| 00:32:25 | dinah | ohhh i am |
| 00:32:29 | iLLf8d | cool |
| 00:32:30 | paul | nah, knackered, going to bed soon. |
| 00:32:30 | Doug_um_busy | ooh |
| 00:32:36 | iLLf8d | meetya there |
| 00:32:39 | Doug_um_busy | I want tooo |
| 00:33:04 | dinah | where? |
| 00:33:32 | dinah | iLLf8d: where? |
| 00:35:31 | dinah | iLLf8d: you must tell me a server and port, i cant read your mind |
| 00:35:38 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 00:35:55 | Doug_um_busy | MMMMmmmm |
| 00:36:00 | Doug_um_busy | I can read it.... |
| 00:36:02 | Doug_um_busy | MMMmmmm |
| 00:36:05 | Doug_um_busy | AHA! |
| 00:36:08 | Doug_um_busy | hes at |
| 00:36:10 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 00:36:15 | Doug_um_busy | a bzflag server! |
| 00:36:17 | Doug_um_busy | yea! |
| 00:37:06 | BZFrank | later |
| 00:37:13 | Doug_um_busy | cya |
| 00:37:15 | Doug_um_busy | l8r |
| 00:37:57 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 00:38:05 | Doug_um_busy | me thinks tank is on ducati |
| 00:38:06 | patlabor221 | wonders if it's still friday. |
| 00:38:20 | Doug_um_busy | TUESDAY AFTERNOOOON!! |
| 00:39:17 | patlabor221 | wonders why noone came and got him for work if that is true |
| 00:40:31 | patlabor221 | did BZfrank release his Project 2501? |
| 00:41:18 | dinah | did patlabor221 find his vidieo in card? |
| 00:41:25 | patlabor221 | no |
| 00:41:33 | dinah | :( |
| 00:41:37 | patlabor221 | I was abducted by 2 women |
| 00:41:59 | patlabor221 | and forced to drink various mixed drinks and watch "sex in the city" |
| 00:42:07 | patlabor221 | I just got up :( |
| 00:42:35 | patlabor221 | but I have my minions searching for one. |
| 00:42:49 | dinah | has been drinking irish coffee's all day, shes a bit tippsy to say the least |
| 00:43:33 | patlabor221 | has learned that voddka and red bull can be dangerous |
| 00:43:42 | dinah | is looking at doug http://www.heckaman.com/family/TadOct01.jpg |
| 00:44:07 | patlabor221 | has also learned that 3 people can flip a sofa bed just by siting in it. |
| 00:44:10 | dinah | what a little cutie ;) |
| 00:45:03 | dinah | i always though BZFlag was tim riker? |
| 00:45:11 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 00:45:13 | TimRiker | heh, yep. |
| 00:45:18 | Doug_um_busy | /nick BZFlag |
| 00:45:25 | Doug_um_busy | oh um |
| 00:45:28 | Doug_um_busy | 2 tim rikers? |
| 00:45:37 | patlabor221 | clones!!! |
| 00:45:40 | dinah | wow two at once! im in awe of you mighty powers tim |
| 00:45:46 | Doug_um_busy | cool |
| 00:46:14 | Doug_um_busy | ha |
| 00:46:21 | patlabor221 | unstable clones |
| 00:46:25 | Doug_um_busy | hehe |
| 00:46:27 | dinah | is baffled |
| 00:46:31 | Doug_um_busy | they killed each other |
| 00:46:40 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 00:46:45 | Doug_um_busy | bzflag rejoined |
| 00:47:33 | patlabor221 | does anyone know if Akira told Cap P more about his particle idea? |
| 00:47:33 | BZFlag | my connection died, so my old session was live. I reconnected with a new nick, killed the old one and changed my nick. fairly common stuff. |
| 00:47:47 | Doug_um_busy | heh |
| 00:48:08 | dinah | BZFlag: its all very exciting to me |
| 00:48:27 | BZFlag | dinah: whatever floats your boat. ;-) |
| 00:48:30 | Doug_um_busy | but how do ya kick you self? |
| 00:48:36 | Doug_um_busy | :? |
| 00:48:45 | BZFlag | Doug_um_busy: /msg nickserv help |
| 00:48:53 | Doug_um_busy | ah |
| 00:49:22 | BZFlag | nickserv manages all that stuff. I used "ghost" to kill my old dead self. |
| 00:49:34 | Doug_um_busy | cool |
| 00:49:36 | Doug_um_busy | ghost |
| 00:49:45 | Doug_um_busy | /ghost |
| 00:49:50 | dinah | so this tuxphone it needs a tele conection or a net connection? i could find out on your site |
| 00:50:06 | Doug_um_busy | both |
| 00:50:10 | Doug_um_busy | I think |
| 00:50:10 | BZFlag | dinah: tele for tele and net for net. |
| 00:50:15 | Doug_um_busy | hehe |
| 00:50:19 | Doug_um_busy | I want one |
| 00:50:22 | Doug_um_busy | ;) |
| 00:50:24 | Doug_um_busy | or 2 |
| 00:50:29 | BZFlag | a tele or a net? ;-) |
| 00:50:35 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 00:50:37 | Doug_um_busy | tuxphone |
| 00:50:39 | Doug_um_busy | ;) |
| 00:50:51 | BZFlag | tuxscreen? tuxphone is a binary. ;-) |
| 00:50:53 | dinah | if i want to talk and see i need both? |
| 00:50:55 | Doug_um_busy | bah |
| 00:50:56 | Doug_um_busy | ok |
| 00:51:03 | Doug_um_busy | um the little box |
| 00:51:06 | BZFlag | dinah: no "see". there is no camera. |
| 00:51:10 | Doug_um_busy | hehe |
| 00:51:14 | Doug_um_busy | its in develement |
| 00:51:52 | dinah | is either to sloshed or to dense to understand all this |
| 00:52:26 | BZFlag | join #TuxScreen for more folks that have tuxscreens. |
| 00:53:09 | Doug_um_busy | too dense |
| 00:53:20 | patlabor221 | I'm votin for sloshed |
| 00:53:37 | dinah | puts doug on 'ignore' |
| 00:55:35 | Doug_um_busy | ack |
| 00:58:27 | patlabor221 | will never figure out how to use irc:( |
| 01:17:16 | Doug_um_busy | um high tech? |
| 01:17:16 | Doug_um_busy | + options->append(BzfString("[-O---------]")); |
| 01:17:16 | Doug_um_busy | + options->append(BzfString("[--O--------]")); |
| 01:17:16 | Doug_um_busy | + options->append(BzfString("[---O-------]")); |
| 01:17:16 | Doug_um_busy | + options->append(BzfString("[----O------]")); |
| 01:17:22 | Doug_um_busy | sheesh |
| 01:17:25 | Doug_um_busy | I could do that |
| 01:20:33 | Patlabor221 | some times all you need is the simple stuff |
| 01:20:39 | Patlabor221 | as long as it works |
| 01:20:39 | Doug_um_busy | heh |
| 01:20:46 | Doug_um_busy | and looks preety |
| 01:20:51 | Doug_um_busy | pretty |
| 01:21:20 | Doug_um_busy | :? |
| 01:21:27 | Doug_um_busy | who are you cryms0n? |
| 01:21:36 | cryms0n | just visiting |
| 01:21:41 | Doug_um_busy | ah |
| 01:21:42 | Doug_um_busy | cool |
| 01:21:42 | cryms0n | download bzflag about a week ago |
| 01:21:44 | Doug_um_busy | :) |
| 01:21:51 | Doug_um_busy | what is your call sign? |
| 01:21:55 | Doug_um_busy | in bzflag? |
| 01:21:57 | cryms0n | same as my irc handle |
| 01:22:02 | Doug_um_busy | ah |
| 01:22:03 | BZFlag | cryms0n: and you're not still playing it? |
| 01:22:15 | BZFlag | grins |
| 01:22:20 | cryms0n | heh! |
| 01:22:21 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 01:22:38 | cryms0n | it's fun, my client gets very lagged around big buildings, though |
| 01:22:48 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:23:18 | cryms0n | i guess i don't have a fast enough setup? 400 mhz + 3dfx? |
| 01:23:30 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:23:35 | Doug_um_busy | should be.. |
| 01:23:42 | Doug_um_busy | what grafics card? |
| 01:23:52 | dinah | accept it doug |
| 01:24:00 | Doug_um_busy | ok |
| 01:24:10 | cryms0n | diamond monster ii |
| 01:24:18 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:24:23 | Doug_um_busy | never heard of it |
| 01:24:27 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:24:36 | cryms0n | it's an older card :) |
| 01:24:39 | Doug_um_busy | press t and tell me your frame rate next ime you are playing |
| 01:24:41 | Doug_um_busy | oh |
| 01:24:42 | Doug_um_busy | ok |
| 01:24:47 | Patlabor221 | that's a voodoo 2 isn't it |
| 01:24:50 | cryms0n | yes |
| 01:24:54 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:24:54 | dinah | thats cose he means diamond monster II ;) |
| 01:25:00 | Patlabor221 | ewwwww 3d only |
| 01:25:26 | cryms0n | i am understandably behind the times, linux doesn't get that many cutting edge 3d games |
| 01:25:59 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:26:01 | Doug_um_busy | true |
| 01:26:09 | Widget | cryms0n: Neverwinter nights. |
| 01:26:36 | Doug_um_busy | Widget: sheesh give up on that game.... |
| 01:26:40 | Doug_um_busy | ;) |
| 01:26:47 | Widget | Doug_um_busy: I never even mentioned if before! |
| 01:26:55 | Patlabor221 | thou shalt not speek ill of NWN |
| 01:26:59 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 01:27:01 | dinah | its got quake III, soldier of fourtune, all the heritics, doom's, kohan... |
| 01:27:05 | Doug_um_busy | is that game 3d? |
| 01:27:12 | Patlabor221 | it is an object of great power with my people |
| 01:27:15 | Doug_um_busy | quake 1 |
| 01:27:32 | Doug_um_busy | Patlabor221:then where do you live? the moon? |
| 01:27:48 | Widget | The MacOS port of NWN is coming out as early as next year. :'( |
| 01:28:15 | Doug_um_busy | cool |
| 01:28:18 | Patlabor221 | it may come out in fall |
| 01:28:18 | Doug_um_busy | OS X? |
| 01:28:26 | Patlabor221 | they say before xmass |
| 01:28:39 | Patlabor221 | they just released the linux dedicated server |
| 01:28:43 | dinah | NWN for linux out yet? |
| 01:28:49 | Doug_um_busy | cool |
| 01:28:55 | Doug_um_busy | I am off to find that game |
| 01:29:05 | Doug_um_busy | BZFLAG traitors!!!! |
| 01:29:24 | cryms0n | argh |
| 01:29:32 | Patlabor221 | the linux client for NWN will be done soon they say |
| 01:29:39 | dinah | free? |
| 01:29:40 | Widget | Yah. |
| 01:29:42 | Widget | No. |
| 01:29:42 | Patlabor221 | it's just gonna use the data from the windows CD |
| 01:29:43 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:29:46 | Widget | $55. |
| 01:29:47 | Doug_um_busy | CD? |
| 01:29:49 | Doug_um_busy | 55? |
| 01:29:50 | dinah | bah |
| 01:29:52 | Widget | USD. |
| 01:29:52 | Doug_um_busy | nope |
| 01:30:00 | Doug_um_busy | I am not getting it |
| 01:30:03 | Doug_um_busy | bzflag is free |
| 01:30:06 | Doug_um_busy | :P |
| 01:30:12 | dinah | bollocks on unfree games |
| 01:30:17 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 01:31:11 | cryms0n | that console at the bottom of the screen cuts off help |
| 01:31:26 | Doug_um_busy | hmmm |
| 01:32:13 | BZFlag | dinah: rochester? I grew up in brighton by mercy high. |
| 01:32:32 | Widget | dinah lives in London. |
| 01:32:43 | dinah | umm im in london that's percy's creative networking you see |
| 01:32:47 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 01:32:50 | Doug_um_busy | uim dinah |
| 01:32:51 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 01:32:58 | Doug_um_busy | how do I put a image in html? |
| 01:33:09 | BZFlag | dinah: ah. who's percy? |
| 01:33:26 | Doug_um_busy | the person who setup the network |
| 01:33:40 | dinah | percy is my flat mate (the british king of white head hacking) |
| 01:33:47 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:33:52 | Widget | Hostnames mean nothing. |
| 01:33:57 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 01:34:11 | Widget | uses X-Chat on a remote computer. |
| 01:34:20 | Widget | I'm not allowed to run it here. :( |
| 01:34:31 | jpablo | haha, using xchat on a remote computer r0cks. |
| 01:34:33 | Doug_um_busy | how do you run it on a remote computer? |
| 01:34:35 | jpablo | i remembered once. |
| 01:34:39 | Doug_um_busy | where? |
| 01:34:51 | Widget | Doug_um_busy: By connecting to the remote X server. |
| 01:34:57 | Widget | jpablo: w00t!!! |
| 01:35:07 | cryms0n_ | white head hacking? is that like popping zits? |
| 01:35:24 | jpablo | i runned it on my home, but the display was on a school across the city, and we was connected using a airport :-P |
| 01:35:38 | jpablo | just because in that school irc was banned :-P |
| 01:35:40 | dinah | just heard percy wake up growl and yell "its white hat" |
| 01:35:40 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 01:35:41 | Doug_um_busy | cool |
| 01:35:47 | Widget | jpablo: Ah, but in my case... |
| 01:35:55 | Widget | jpablo: The display is across the ocean. |
| 01:36:04 | Doug_um_busy | lol |
| 01:36:05 | Doug_um_busy | cool |
| 01:36:12 | jpablo | hehe, X rules. |
| 01:37:36 | Doug_um_busy | jmm |
| 01:37:45 | Doug_um_busy | where did you get the X account? |
| 01:37:57 | cryms0n_ | i have a sinking feeling my 3dfx is not being used. |
| 01:38:16 | Widget | Doug_um_busy: Friend's computer. |
| 01:38:29 | Widget | If only I had a good video card.... :( |
| 01:38:36 | Doug_um_busy | oh |
| 01:38:38 | Doug_um_busy | rats |
| 01:38:46 | Doug_um_busy | hmm |
| 01:38:49 | Doug_um_busy | for that matter |
| 01:38:55 | Doug_um_busy | tell me how to run it |
| 01:39:05 | Doug_um_busy | I can use noodlemans computer |
| 01:39:13 | Doug_um_busy | I got X here and everthing |
| 01:39:15 | Doug_um_busy | er |
| 01:39:25 | Doug_um_busy | exect noodle is banned |
| 01:40:35 | BZFlag | wonders why Doug_um_busy is so chatty if he's really busy |
| 01:40:44 | Doug_um_busy | um |
| 01:41:04 | BZFlag | eeek, now he's a bus |
| 01:41:41 | Doug_is_very_bus | oops |
| 01:41:41 | dinah | goes to look at doug once more -> http://www.heckaman.com/family/TadOct01.jpg (what a cuttie) =P |
| 01:42:03 | cryms0n_ | heeh! |
| 01:42:11 | Doug_very_busy | ignore dinah |
| 01:42:52 | Widget | What are NIS and shadow? |
| 01:42:56 | Widget | As dealing with user accounts? |
| 01:43:01 | dinah | try not to spill alcholic coffee on the keyboard |
| 01:43:06 | jpablo | nis is a demon to remote autentification. |
| 01:43:07 | BZFlag | Widget: hackers? heh. jk. |
| 01:43:20 | Widget | Haha. |
| 01:43:27 | Doug_very_busy | dinah: yuk |
| 01:43:32 | Widget | jpablo: ???? |
| 01:43:36 | BZFlag | Widget: /etc/passwd has all user accounts. it used to have the des scrambled password too. |
| 01:43:44 | dinah | ohhh ohh oh shadow is half a password file thingy |
| 01:44:03 | Widget | Hm..... can Shadow passwords be used with NIS? |
| 01:44:14 | jpablo | Widget: nis is used yo manage a lot of machines, you just setup a 'authentification server' so you add a account on that server and then you have acces to all the machines. |
| 01:44:19 | BZFlag | Widget: with /etc/shadow then /etc/passwd is world readable, but passwords are in /etc/shadow which is only root readable. |
| 01:44:20 | jpablo | but it's deprecated now. |
| 01:44:25 | jpablo | new implementations use ldap. |
| 01:44:32 | dinah | has been runnig john the ripper on her unshadowed passwd files for 3 day now... |
| 01:44:53 | BZFlag | nis uses an network connection to get user info. encrypted passwords are still worl readable. |
| 01:44:59 | Widget | Hm... |
| 01:45:06 | Widget | So how is NIS related to Shadow Passwords? |
| 01:45:17 | BZFlag | Widget: incompatible. |
| 01:45:27 | dinah | fires up Bo2k |
| 01:45:34 | Widget | But are they for similar purposes? |
| 01:45:39 | Doug_very_busy | bo2k is not hacking |
| 01:45:41 | dinah | alright whos on windows |
| 01:45:43 | Doug_very_busy | me |
| 01:45:47 | Doug_very_busy | PICK ME!!! |
| 01:45:52 | Doug_very_busy | send it through email!!! |
| 01:45:56 | Widget | Hm..... so NIS, ldap and Shadow Passwords do the same thing, but they are incompatible? |
| 01:45:56 | Doug_very_busy | let me AV get it |
| 01:46:04 | BZFlag | Widget: nis is for sharing password on multiple systems. shadow is for protecting passwords on one system. |
| 01:46:28 | Widget | BZFlag: Ah. And ldap does the same thing as nis? |
| 01:46:45 | dinah | ./l0phtcrack -Doug |
| 01:46:51 | dinah | ;) |
| 01:46:54 | BZFlag | Widget: yes. ldap is like nis but more flexible. |
| 01:46:55 | Doug_very_busy | yea right |
| 01:46:58 | Doug_very_busy | try and get in |
| 01:47:01 | Widget | BZFlag: Oh, OK. Thanks. |
| 01:47:13 | Doug_very_busy | anyway I have bo2k on here anyway |
| 01:47:30 | dinah | i cant but if your on any sort of connection with an open port percy could |
| 01:47:51 | Doug_very_busy | yea right |
| 01:47:59 | dinah | he wont though lousy white head |
| 01:48:06 | Doug_very_busy | locks down the firewall |
| 01:49:44 | PercyM | dinah: go to bed |
| 01:49:51 | dinah | LOL |
| 01:49:51 | Doug_very_busy | lol |
| 01:49:56 | Doug_very_busy | go PercyM!!! |
| 01:49:59 | Doug_very_busy | GO GO GO!! |
| 01:50:43 | PercyM | dinah: its 3am im tired turn off the computer and gett some bloody sleep ya berk ;-P |
| 01:51:05 | Doug_very_busy | lol |
| 01:51:15 | dinah | goes into the hallway and yells at 'percy' |
| 01:51:31 | Doug_very_busy | lol |
| 01:51:35 | Doug_very_busy | oh man |
| 01:51:44 | Doug_very_busy | pysical conflict |
| 01:52:00 | PercyM | dinah: i will turn off the sodding lan! keep it down or go to bed |
| 01:52:06 | cryms0n_ | yes my fps goes to a lovely 5 on a big pyramid |
| 01:52:10 | Doug_very_busy | lol |
| 01:52:11 | Doug_very_busy | wow |
| 01:52:15 | cryms0n_ | i don't think my 3dfx is active |
| 01:52:17 | Widget | Hm.... one more quesiton. What is the difference between ldap and kerberos? Any relation? |
| 01:52:20 | Doug_very_busy | dinah: thats a threat |
| 01:52:24 | Doug_very_busy | hmm |
| 01:52:31 | Doug_very_busy | cryms0n_ get a driver? |
| 01:52:38 | dinah | turns of her speakers and tries to ack less drunk |
| 01:52:43 | cryms0n_ | yeah i'll have to puzzle it out |
| 01:52:51 | cryms0n_ | 3dfx is dead so drivers are hard to come by |
| 01:52:59 | dinah | PercyM: sorry luv |
| 01:53:03 | Doug_very_busy | hmm |
| 01:53:31 | PercyM | bah bullocks and dengle. |
| 01:53:39 | PercyM | strors off to bed |
| 01:54:35 | dinah | calls pecy's cell phone... |
| 01:54:59 | dinah | fock he turned it off :( |
| 02:04:07 | dinah | marvels at the silence |
| 02:05:48 | Widget | shatters it. |
| 02:06:50 | cryms0n_ | i will upgrade to x 4.2.0 |
| 02:06:55 | cryms0n_ | and all my problems will go away |
| 02:07:04 | cryms0n_ | magically, if you will. |
| 02:10:33 | dinah | 4.2 of what? |
| 02:10:40 | cryms0n_ | xfree86 |
| 02:11:48 | dinah | how do i check what version im using? |
| 02:15:35 | cryms0n_ | xdpyinfo |
| 02:15:52 | cryms0n_ | what is your vendor release number? |
| 02:16:14 | dinah | XFree86 version: 4.2.0 |
| 02:16:54 | dinah | hmm musta got that when i went to redhat 7.3 |
| 02:24:14 | dinah | hrmph, i can talk to myself then if your all gonna be clams |
| 02:24:59 | dinah | doe san open query to herself and listens to the echos |
| 02:26:29 | Patlabor221 | sorry, had to lie down or get sick :( |
| 02:27:21 | dinah | oh sure |
| 02:27:33 | dinah | i reeeeaaaly believe that |
| 02:28:00 | Patlabor221 | well that and I had to talk to one of the people about digitising those tapes |
| 02:29:03 | dinah | oh go right ahead then, dont let me bother you |
| 02:29:06 | Patlabor221 | has Cap been on today? I wonder how is 1.8 sound stuff is going |
| 02:29:19 | dinah | (pay no attention to the drunk brit) |
| 02:29:23 | Patlabor221 | i'm done wiht that, we are all set to give it a go tomrow |
| 02:29:29 | dinah | he was on earlier |
| 02:30:30 | Patlabor221 | I hope that he implements a map or server specified soundtrack, that would be neat |
| 02:30:46 | dinah | ohhhssss and ahhhhhsss |
| 02:31:14 | Patlabor221 | I realy gota find some good oog tools one of these days |
| 02:31:46 | dinah | i'd settle for a way to turn my mp3's to ogg thats all i need |
| 02:32:06 | Patlabor221 | wellyou can take a mp3 to a wave |
| 02:32:09 | Patlabor221 | then ogg the wave |
| 02:32:16 | dinah | whit what? |
| 02:32:18 | Patlabor221 | must look into sound forge |
| 02:32:26 | Patlabor221 | under linux I don't know |
| 02:32:33 | dinah | sigh |
| 02:32:34 | Patlabor221 | under the "w" word, I do know |
| 02:32:51 | Patlabor221 | well I know some command like things that'll do it |
| 02:33:04 | dinah | oh really? |
| 02:33:26 | Patlabor221 | yeah the standard mp3 encode/decoder should do it |
| 02:33:56 | dinah | i have no idea what that is |
| 02:34:24 | Patlabor221 | the origonal code that was made to compress MP3s was command line based, it just took a wave file and compressed it |
| 02:34:38 | Patlabor221 | it also had a option of decoding a file |
| 02:35:13 | dinah | so i type what on the comand line to ogg an mp3? |
| 02:35:22 | Patlabor221 | that I don't remember |
| 02:35:26 | Patlabor221 | I am looking it up now |
| 02:37:48 | Patlabor221 | crap too bad there isn't winamp for linux, it's realy easy to make waves out of it |
| 02:38:02 | dinah | well we have xmms instead |
| 02:38:11 | Patlabor221 | will it save to a wave? |
| 02:39:01 | dinah | i cant find a save button anywhere |
| 02:39:59 | Patlabor221 | is there an "output type" |
| 02:40:25 | Patlabor221 | under winamp you don't save the file as anything, you just tell the player to write to disk |
| 02:42:28 | dinah | hmmm |
| 02:43:51 | dinah | nope if there is i cat find it |
| 02:46:02 | Patlabor221 | damn why does noone make a simple converter for lin |
| 02:46:18 | dinah | beats me |
| 02:46:59 | Patlabor221 | I'll have to ask Cap what he used |
| 02:47:52 | Patlabor221 | there is stuff that will take CD to ogg |
| 02:48:13 | dinah | yeah think i have that with kde |
| 02:48:55 | Patlabor221 | there is stuff that will take MP3 to CD, |
| 02:48:59 | Patlabor221 | but that would be a pain |
| 02:49:07 | dinah | very |
| 02:49:23 | Patlabor221 | and Fraunhofer's is charging for there decoded, those bastards |
| 02:50:01 | dinah | bloody capatalists ;P |
| 02:50:48 | Patlabor221 | well if they were nice, noone would have ever made ogg |
| 02:54:43 | dinah | but i like ogg |
| 02:55:20 | Patlabor221 | well I'm sure there is a way, just gotta find it |
| 02:55:51 | dinah | there is always a way, barney's in the finding it |
| 02:56:22 | Patlabor221 | you could allways try the windows one under wine |
| 02:56:44 | dinah | nah |
| 03:00:23 | Widget | dinah: Gasp!!!! You use KDE!!?!?! |
| 03:00:27 | Widget | dinah: The spawn of the devil!!! |
| 03:00:41 | Widget | dinah: Ask captain_proton his opinion on KDE. :) |
| 03:00:49 | dinah | no i have ked acces through the gnome desktop |
| 03:01:03 | Patlabor221 | why is KDE "evil"? |
| 03:01:16 | dinah | its fake free |
| 03:01:33 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 03:02:20 | dinah | used to need to buy a lisence now its on gnu but its tainted |
| 03:02:47 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 03:32:48 | dinah | watches the sun rise |
| 03:41:14 | Widget | The sun rises at 5:00 AM!??!?!? |
| 03:41:40 | dinah | bearly |
| 03:41:45 | Widget | Bearly_ |
| 03:41:47 | Widget | ? |
| 03:41:59 | Widget | Oh, wait.... it's summer in the UK, right? |
| 03:42:04 | Widget | Loooooong days. |
| 03:42:07 | Widget | Lucky things. |
| 03:42:17 | Widget | brbs. |
| 03:47:16 | dinah | grabs another coffee with whiskey |
| 03:50:26 | dinah | goood morning |
| 03:50:45 | captain_proton | good evening |
| 03:50:51 | dinah | morning |
| 03:54:34 | dinah | <Widget> dinah: Ask captain_proton his opinion on KDE. :) |
| 03:55:10 | captain_proton | kde 3 should be kde 2.1 |
| 03:55:51 | captain_proton | thats about my only opinion, other than the fact that i don't like the feel of it |
| 03:56:03 | dinah | just got mplayer with gui to work |
| 03:56:33 | dinah | mmmmrrr arrrrrghl zombie dinah stagers to bed |
| 04:14:59 | ski | hi all |
| 04:35:36 | captain_proton | commits |
| 04:39:12 | captain_proton | damnit #bzflag! |
| 04:39:15 | captain_proton | wake up! |
| 04:43:05 | BZFlag | uh uh... is it morning already? |
| 04:43:50 | captain_proton | no |
| 04:44:56 | Widget | Yes, it morning. |
| 04:45:08 | Widget | 13* 8dinah watches the sun rise |
| 04:46:46 | captain_proton | now nuum has no right to complain |
| 04:48:09 | captain_proton | though he seems to have lots of problems with passing floats to glVertexi |
| 04:49:23 | ski | whoa, the room came alive |
| 04:49:38 | ski | its nite here |
| 04:50:26 | ski | cya |
| 04:52:39 | captain_proton | twiddles his thumbs, wondering what to hack on next |
| 04:55:37 | captain_proton | any requests? (other than keyboard support) |
| 05:15:36 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream! |
| 05:16:34 | MrApathyCream | hidy ho |
| 05:16:41 | captain_proton | sup |
| 05:17:45 | captain_proton | is at a loss for what to work on |
| 05:18:22 | MrApathyCream | hugs captain_proton |
| 05:18:31 | MrApathyCream | ogg changes 'fix' win32 installer |
| 05:18:48 | captain_proton | what?? |
| 05:19:03 | MrApathyCream | just shakin' up the bits, causes the compressor to work |
| 05:19:11 | MrApathyCream | one trivial problem tho..... |
| 05:19:11 | captain_proton | woohoo!! |
| 05:19:42 | MrApathyCream | i get no sound while playing |
| 05:19:45 | MrApathyCream | bbl |
| 05:20:10 | captain_proton | what a way to part |
| 05:20:12 | captain_proton | now i'm interested |
| 05:37:45 | captain_proton | ARGG i need something to do |
| 05:38:35 | captain_proton | consults TODO |
| 05:39:46 | captain_proton | hmm no help there |
| 05:52:56 | captain_proton | sighs |
| 05:56:23 | Widget | Èra un long camiṇl tot caladat de brasa roja. |
| 05:56:49 | Widget | "-Un amic de Dieu?? Mas, bogre de tinhós! qué venes quèrre aicí? |
| 06:00:30 | captain_proton | speak english, boy |
| 06:06:40 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i found something to do (YAY!) |
| 06:07:37 | MrApathyCream | fix sound? |
| 06:07:42 | captain_proton | sound works |
| 06:08:06 | MrApathyCream | did you check sound files into sf using binary format? |
| 06:08:45 | captain_proton | i believe so |
| 06:09:04 | captain_proton | lemme DCC you boom.ogg |
| 06:09:08 | captain_proton | to see if its bad |
| 06:11:17 | MrApathyCream | same size... perhaps i didn't install vorbis right.. |
| 06:11:33 | captain_proton | you specifically need libvorbisfile |
| 06:12:42 | MrApathyCream | hmm i linked to ogg_static.lib, vorbis_static.lib, vorbisenc_static.lib and vorbisfile_static.lib |
| 06:13:17 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:14:19 | MrApathyCream | hmm, OggAudioFile constructor never gets called,... seems odd |
| 06:15:55 | captain_proton | are you sure it never gets called? |
| 06:16:41 | captain_proton | it tests for .wav first - got rid of all the old ones? |
| 06:17:34 | MrApathyCream | it never gets called, and i have no wav files |
| 06:18:07 | captain_proton | bizzare |
| 06:18:18 | captain_proton | how are you testing for if it gets called? |
| 06:18:49 | MrApathyCream | breakpoints |
| 06:18:52 | MrApathyCream | ...think i found it |
| 06:18:55 | MrApathyCream | voidSoundManager::openSound(const char*) |
| 06:18:56 | MrApathyCream | { |
| 06:18:56 | MrApathyCream | if (usingAudio) |
| 06:18:56 | MrApathyCream | return;// already opened |
| 06:19:08 | MrApathyCream | usingAudio appears to not be initialized... value is 205 |
| 06:19:12 | MrApathyCream | so code isn't executed. |
| 06:19:29 | captain_proton | aha |
| 06:22:19 | iLLf8d | yo captain_futon |
| 06:22:29 | iLLf8d | we got a match coming up soon? |
| 06:22:43 | Widget | Yes, against bz. |
| 06:22:46 | Widget | Your first loss. |
| 06:22:56 | captain_proton | doubt we can get it all organized before i leave |
| 06:23:06 | iLLf8d | leave for where? |
| 06:23:11 | captain_proton | japan |
| 06:23:20 | iLLf8d | I didn't know till today that there was bzmail |
| 06:25:03 | iLLf8d | sheesh |
| 06:25:03 | iLLf8d | cap what about our other teamates? |
| 06:25:03 | iLLf8d | this tourneys not gonna go on forever i'd like to play a few more matches |
| 06:25:11 | MrApathyCream | with changes, OPENMEDIA returns null |
| 06:25:39 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: OPENMEDIA should return null on the test for .wav |
| 06:25:54 | iLLf8d | captain_proton: how long will you be gone for and whenya leaving? |
| 06:26:09 | MrApathyCream | returns null on the test for ogg |
| 06:26:12 | MrApathyCream | too |
| 06:26:33 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: leaving sunday morning, gone for 2 weeks |
| 06:26:45 | iLLf8d | ah nice |
| 06:26:48 | iLLf8d | what about tomorrow? |
| 06:26:50 | MrApathyCream | it gets the stream ok |
| 06:26:56 | iLLf8d | squeeze in a 30 min match? |
| 06:26:57 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: uhm - it shouldn't, so long as theres a .ogg file there |
| 06:27:02 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: probably could |
| 06:27:22 | iLLf8d | I just got my client recompiled with the darker settings |
| 06:27:26 | iLLf8d | I can see the radar now heh |
| 06:27:49 | iLLf8d | ok time to flag |
| 06:27:52 | iLLf8d | have fun in japan |
| 06:28:20 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: hopefully thief will be done by tonight =D |
| 06:29:33 | MrApathyCream | cool |
| 06:29:47 | MrApathyCream | OpenAudioFile constructor seems to do good things |
| 06:30:00 | MrApathyCream | ov_open_callbacks seems to fill out the file structure |
| 06:30:13 | MrApathyCream | ov_info seems to initialize the info var |
| 06:31:53 | MrApathyCream | open says false |
| 06:32:00 | MrApathyCream | er isOpen |
| 06:38:02 | MrApathyCream | feel free to change the thief 'gun' graphics |
| 06:46:59 | MrApathyCream | heads off to bed, dreaming of one day hearing fine ogg file sounds |
| 07:00:34 | Widget | Yah, iLL_BZFlag? |
| 07:09:10 | captain_proton | doobedoo |
| 07:09:35 | Widget | bodeboo. |
| 07:10:46 | captain_proton | is happy |
| 07:11:05 | Widget | Your sound system is working? |
| 07:11:27 | captain_proton | no |
| 07:11:32 | captain_proton | well, yes |
| 07:11:33 | captain_proton | but thats not it |
| 07:11:37 | captain_proton | i go to japan in 2 days |
| 07:12:00 | Widget | Lucky thing. |
| 07:12:03 | Widget | When? |
| 07:12:10 | captain_proton | uhm - in 2 days |
| 07:12:33 | Widget | Ooooooh. I thought you said for two days. |
| 07:12:43 | Widget | Do you speak Japanese? |
| 07:12:55 | captain_proton | a couple words |
| 07:13:32 | Widget | "Wakarimasen" |
| 07:13:57 | captain_proton | i mean quite literally a couple words |
| 07:14:19 | captain_proton | konichiwa, oyasumi, uhm |
| 07:14:25 | captain_proton | nuru-nuru ;-) |
| 07:15:10 | Widget | Hah. |
| 07:15:23 | Widget | Well, hopefully you will not find yourself in a difficult situation. |
| 07:15:37 | Widget | Like.... stuck in snowy mountains. |
| 07:15:40 | Widget | With food for two days. |
| 07:15:50 | Widget | Surrounded by Japanese people who speak no English. |
| 07:15:55 | captain_proton | yes, let us hope |
| 07:16:05 | Widget | BZFlag should support unicode. |
| 07:16:12 | captain_proton | HAHAHA |
| 07:16:20 | Widget | I want to be able to write pi in BZFlag chat. |
| 07:16:32 | Widget | Or at the very least, write Équipe Français! |
| 07:16:33 | captain_proton | rather, as tim is so fond of saying: |
| 07:16:36 | captain_proton | patches welcome ;-) |
| 07:16:38 | iLL_BZFlag | hey cap tell widge I own you in bz =) |
| 07:16:46 | captain_proton | iLL_BZFlag: no, you don't |
| 07:17:02 | iLL_BZFlag | he's dellusional |
| 07:17:03 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 07:17:22 | Widget | iLL_BZFlag may be good at other servers, but it takes more skill than that to become a true master of ducati!!!! |
| 07:17:47 | iLL_BZFlag | ducati doesn't make you a master |
| 07:17:51 | iLL_BZFlag | puleaz |
| 07:17:56 | Widget | wants to be able to type Chinese in BZFlag. |
| 07:17:57 | iLL_BZFlag | that just means you can play one field |
| 07:18:08 | Widget | So? |
| 07:18:13 | iLL_BZFlag | dunno who ever thought ducati made you a master =P |
| 07:18:19 | Widget | That field is a wonderful field. |
| 07:18:20 | captain_proton | iLL_BZFlag: chestal |
| 07:18:23 | Widget | It's.... an art form. |
| 07:18:29 | iLL_BZFlag | yeah that is so much kaka |
| 07:18:31 | captain_proton | Widget: there are several wonderful fields |
| 07:18:33 | iLL_BZFlag | caca I mean |
| 07:18:41 | Widget | Just watching the masters... it brings tears to one's eyes. |
| 07:18:58 | iLL_BZFlag | that just means they're not good enough to go anywhere else hide on ducati (/me baits everyone in channel) |
| 07:19:00 | Widget | BZFlag is a game. ducati is an art form. |
| 07:19:08 | iLL_BZFlag | stop this no jumping 2 shot ctf only trend |
| 07:19:18 | captain_proton | thinks Widget hasn't seen the beauty of a true decks master |
| 07:19:20 | iLL_BZFlag | that shoudl be PART of the lineup |
| 07:19:23 | iLL_BZFlag | not the whole thing |
| 07:19:30 | Widget | iLL_BZFlag: That's it! meq and bz! Tomorrow! 1800 UTC!!! |
| 07:19:35 | iLL_BZFlag | why bother adding jumping ability or maps if you dont' wanna use it |
| 07:19:40 | captain_proton | on the decks ;) |
| 07:19:47 | Widget | captain_proton: I've seen you play. |
| 07:19:59 | captain_proton | Widget: i owned you even on ducati |
| 07:20:04 | captain_proton | and ducati is not my strength |
| 07:20:17 | iLL_BZFlag | ducatis not yoru strength |
| 07:20:18 | Widget | captain_proton: You didn't own me... you won by a point in our last match! |
| 07:20:22 | iLL_BZFlag | decks probably is once you've played a bit |
| 07:20:29 | Widget | captain_proton: And when I was metres from capturing your flag, you left! |
| 07:20:31 | iLL_BZFlag | he's got a deadly jumpspin when he's in the zone |
| 07:20:43 | iLL_BZFlag | but alot of the time he's outta the zone |
| 07:20:56 | iLL_BZFlag | yeah thats a cap move too |
| 07:20:57 | Widget | ducati has the same sort of elegant grace as football. For this reason perhaps, Americans don't like it so much. |
| 07:21:00 | captain_proton | iLL_BZFlag: recently yes, because i don't play that often anymore =( |
| 07:21:02 | iLL_BZFlag | play till the tide changes heh |
| 07:21:03 | iLL_BZFlag | =P |
| 07:21:22 | Widget | resolves to play a lot more these next few weeks. |
| 07:21:24 | captain_proton | in the fall, once bhaskara goes back up... |
| 07:21:39 | Widget | Yes, for some reason I lag slighly less on bhaskara than on ducati. |
| 07:21:52 | iLL_BZFlag | duc has been ok lately |
| 07:21:58 | iLL_BZFlag | some days its horrible for me |
| 07:22:00 | iLL_BZFlag | dunno why |
| 07:22:02 | Widget | On ducati, I hover near 300 ms, though recently I've been close to 200 ms. |
| 07:22:05 | Widget | Yah, me too. |
| 07:22:18 | Widget | ducati has been a lot better these days. |
| 07:22:22 | iLL_BZFlag | unexplicably horribe |
| 07:22:32 | iLL_BZFlag | ie 400ms lag kick, I don't get kicked |
| 07:22:41 | iLL_BZFlag | but i'm leading tanks by more then 3 tanklengths |
| 07:22:44 | Widget | You're speshul. |
| 07:22:46 | iLL_BZFlag | thats just not right |
| 07:23:03 | iLL_BZFlag | at 400ms the most lag should be .8 sec |
| 07:23:19 | Widget | Well, no one said lagstats was accurate. |
| 07:23:24 | iLL_BZFlag | ehh |
| 07:23:38 | Widget | They're like A levels. |
| 07:23:46 | Widget | They tell you something, but not everything. |
| 07:23:47 | iLL_BZFlag | I dunno I'm gonna take a break after the tourney |
| 07:23:51 | iLL_BZFlag | i'm getting tired of the cheating |
| 07:24:01 | iLL_BZFlag | gonna move on to tribes2 conquest and ut |
| 07:24:10 | Widget | A-levels are sort of like SATs or APs in the US. |
| 07:24:14 | iLL_BZFlag | tho i've been completey gettng creamed there heh |
| 07:24:17 | Widget | iLL_BZFlag: How dare you!!! |
| 07:24:24 | Widget | iLL_BZFlag: So when is meq going to play next? |
| 07:24:31 | iLL_BZFlag | hopefully tomorrow |
| 07:24:35 | Widget | iLL_BZFlag: Not playing to preserve your unblemished record, eh? |
| 07:24:38 | iLL_BZFlag | if cap will showup |
| 07:24:39 | Widget | iLL_BZFlag: Against whom? |
| 07:24:39 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 07:24:44 | iLL_BZFlag | the loops I think |
| 07:24:45 | Widget | cap is usually here. |
| 07:24:49 | Widget | OK. |
| 07:24:51 | iLL_BZFlag | freelancer said they were interested |
| 07:24:57 | Widget | Shall I calculate your lowered score now? |
| 07:25:01 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 07:25:06 | Widget | Or do you want to do it? |
| 07:25:18 | iLL_BZFlag | it aint over till its over |
| 07:25:31 | Widget | Said the Americans before USA v. GER. |
| 07:25:43 | iLL_BZFlag | oh dude you got soccer on the brain |
| 07:25:49 | Widget | It's not soccer!! |
| 07:25:50 | Widget | Gah. |
| 07:25:52 | Widget | It's football. |
| 07:26:02 | iLL_BZFlag | americans could care less if we even field a team |
| 07:26:11 | iLL_BZFlag | why you won't understand that... |
| 07:26:32 | Widget | Americans use bad measurements, and they drive on the wrong side of the street, and they speak bad English and they use incorrect words. |
| 07:26:36 | iLL_BZFlag | even if we had a team that could will 1000 outta 1000 games I still wouldn't watch |
| 07:26:42 | Widget | One day this will betray them. |
| 07:27:04 | Widget | Yes, Americans only like sports that only they play. |
| 07:27:07 | Widget | Like baseball. |
| 07:27:07 | iLL_BZFlag | foreigners gotta get a grip and realize that we could care less about them heh |
| 07:27:09 | Widget | Or basketball. |
| 07:28:16 | Widget | In Germany, when the newscasters sometimes talk about Amerikanische Züstande (America-like situations). |
| 07:28:44 | Widget | When dealing with crime, or unemployment and stuff. :) |
| 07:29:13 | iLL_BZFlag | you know how many times germany makes it into the news |
| 07:29:14 | iLL_BZFlag | never |
| 07:29:15 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 07:29:34 | Widget | Well, that's a good thing. |
| 07:29:51 | iLL_BZFlag | I think the world thinks americans snub them |
| 07:29:51 | Widget | Considering No news is good news. |
| 07:30:02 | Widget | No.... most people laugh at Americans. |
| 07:30:05 | Widget | Like the election. |
| 07:30:07 | iLL_BZFlag | we don't were just too busy in our own lives to think about foreigners |
| 07:30:09 | Widget | And the Clinton thing. |
| 07:30:20 | Widget | No one thinks Americans are snubbing the world. |
| 07:30:30 | iLL_BZFlag | oh please |
| 07:30:43 | iLL_BZFlag | hey I never had anything against foreign people |
| 07:30:50 | Widget | Maybe it seems like this to you, as an American.... |
| 07:31:03 | iLL_BZFlag | I come online and all these ignorant people around the world start to attack me and the country I live in |
| 07:31:09 | iLL_BZFlag | if thats not ignorant I dunno what is |
| 07:31:19 | Widget | But... most people don't really care about the US. |
| 07:31:31 | Widget | Well... once I went on a chat room. |
| 07:31:31 | iLL_BZFlag | you know how many times i've attacked other peoples countries or foreign people 0 |
| 07:31:31 | captain_proton | Widget: its like generalizing new zealanders in with aussies |
| 07:31:44 | Widget | An AOL chat room (which means American). |
| 07:31:57 | iLL_BZFlag | widget for people who don't care about the US thats all foreigners talk about |
| 07:32:08 | Widget | And as soon as someone found out I was a Kiwi, the room filled with comments like "haha we could invade new zealand with a rifle" |
| 07:32:40 | iLL_BZFlag | and talking about preconceived notions sheesh |
| 07:32:44 | captain_proton | as i so eloquently got to put it before: |
| 07:32:51 | Widget | iLL_BZFlag: I think your experience with foreigners has been rather limited. |
| 07:32:57 | captain_proton | generalizations are wrong, no matter what. there is always a contradiction. |
| 07:33:01 | iLL_BZFlag | I try not to have an opinion of a culture till I experience it firsthand |
| 07:33:10 | Widget | captain_proton: Heh. |
| 07:33:22 | iLL_BZFlag | unlike the genuises who are experts on a country they haven't even taken a holiday in |
| 07:33:31 | iLL_BZFlag | not at all |
| 07:33:31 | Widget | I've been to the US before. |
| 07:33:32 | captain_proton | Widget: if you think about it, it works |
| 07:33:35 | iLL_BZFlag | my building is like the UN |
| 07:33:38 | Widget | It's a nice place. |
| 07:33:48 | iLL_BZFlag | I'm the minority here and on my street |
| 07:34:11 | iLL_BZFlag | ehh the US is nice and sucky and clean and dirty and etc... |
| 07:34:23 | iLL_BZFlag | probably like every other place in the world |
| 07:34:49 | Widget | But for instance, on the news, they talk a lot more about affaird in the UK than in the US. |
| 07:34:52 | iLL_BZFlag | i'll put it this way widge |
| 07:35:03 | iLL_BZFlag | how many times have I mentioned the word soccer to you ever? |
| 07:35:15 | iLL_BZFlag | however when I came online |
| 07:35:19 | Widget | There may be some mention of something that happened to the Americans in Afghanistan or something. |
| 07:35:23 | iLL_BZFlag | and didn't even know the championship was going on |
| 07:35:41 | iLL_BZFlag | you start to attack me about the US team which I didn't even know was playing |
| 07:35:53 | iLL_BZFlag | and for some reason for someone who could care less about the US |
| 07:35:58 | iLL_BZFlag | you keep mentioning it |
| 07:35:58 | Widget | In the US, the World Cup actually was seen by record numbers of people. |
| 07:36:08 | iLL_BZFlag | yeah foreigners |
| 07:36:10 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 07:36:20 | iLL_BZFlag | my whole building was probably watching |
| 07:36:45 | iLL_BZFlag | I wasn't even aware of a world cup (I knew it happened but never cared enough to follow it) till I moved in here |
| 07:36:51 | iLL_BZFlag | and could hear all the foreigners chearing |
| 07:36:56 | iLL_BZFlag | cheering even heh |
| 07:37:01 | Widget | I wasn't attacking Americans, I was making fun of the US team. |
| 07:37:08 | iLL_BZFlag | dude my point being is... |
| 07:37:22 | iLL_BZFlag | you decide you had to make fun of something american just outta the blue |
| 07:37:40 | iLL_BZFlag | I don't think i've even asked you what country you were from before had I? |
| 07:37:49 | iLL_BZFlag | well maybe I don't recall |
| 07:37:52 | Widget | Hey, if I found Valoche, I would jeer at him for the French defeat in Round A. |
| 07:37:55 | captain_proton | has had the opinion for a long time that foreigners are whiny bitches, no matter what country you live in |
| 07:38:13 | iLL_BZFlag | why do you care that he's french and you're not or that his team did well etc... |
| 07:38:18 | iLL_BZFlag | I think what it is is that |
| 07:38:36 | iLL_BZFlag | here football is played in the states and all the animosity is here in the states |
| 07:38:51 | iLL_BZFlag | if the world fielded football teams we'd probably be all into that |
| 07:38:56 | Widget | Hm? I can't really understand... |
| 07:39:06 | iLL_BZFlag | I think its just a different mindset |
| 07:39:08 | Widget | What about football? |
| 07:39:13 | iLL_BZFlag | about everything |
| 07:39:23 | iLL_BZFlag | you're in germany right? |
| 07:39:28 | Widget | Nope. |
| 07:39:32 | iLL_BZFlag | where are you? |
| 07:39:34 | Widget | New Zealand. |
| 07:39:41 | iLL_BZFlag | oh I should've known heh |
| 07:39:55 | iLL_BZFlag | I've got a number of friends from your neck of the woods |
| 07:40:02 | Widget | Haha. |
| 07:40:09 | Widget | Where in NZ? |
| 07:40:21 | iLL_BZFlag | no NZ I meant neck figuratively |
| 07:40:31 | iLL_BZFlag | mostly australians |
| 07:40:39 | iLL_BZFlag | I meant your part of the globe |
| 07:40:39 | Widget | Oh. |
| 07:40:48 | Widget | Australia's 1500 km away. |
| 07:40:54 | iLL_BZFlag | thats close |
| 07:40:59 | Widget | captain_proton: I think I remember your saying something about this a few minutes ago.... ,) |
| 07:41:08 | iLL_BZFlag | you could concievably go on holiday there |
| 07:41:15 | iLL_BZFlag | w/out spending tons of money |
| 07:41:27 | iLL_BZFlag | you know what it would cost for me to make a flight to NZ |
| 07:41:30 | Widget | Don't need a visa either. |
| 07:41:36 | iLL_BZFlag | i'm guessing at least 1800$USD |
| 07:41:52 | iLL_BZFlag | so you know how many trips I plan to make to NZ? |
| 07:42:02 | captain_proton | 7? |
| 07:42:10 | iLL_BZFlag | theres alot of other places I can visit for < 1800 |
| 07:42:13 | Widget | 7.2? |
| 07:42:18 | iLL_BZFlag | thats my point |
| 07:42:35 | iLL_BZFlag | my point is if you're european you're all up in everyone elses country |
| 07:42:35 | Widget | -2.33333333333333333333? |
| 07:42:57 | iLL_BZFlag | i'm sure you'll visit an number of other countries in your area |
| 07:43:09 | Widget | "all up in everyone elses country"? |
| 07:43:15 | Widget | I have trouble understanding your English. |
| 07:43:18 | iLL_BZFlag | just to leave the continent cost about 1000+ |
| 07:43:28 | iLL_BZFlag | meaning visiting |
| 07:43:29 | Widget | What continent? |
| 07:43:31 | iLL_BZFlag | frequenting |
| 07:43:31 | Widget | Europe? |
| 07:43:34 | iLL_BZFlag | experiencing |
| 07:43:36 | iLL_BZFlag | etc... |
| 07:43:46 | iLL_BZFlag | no US |
| 07:44:03 | Widget | Even driving to Columbia? |
| 07:44:27 | iLL_BZFlag | I've been to canada and mexico |
| 07:44:31 | captain_proton | Widget: gotta pay off the mexican police (whoop, there i go) |
| 07:44:43 | iLL_BZFlag | other then that i'm not a world hopper like cap |
| 07:44:49 | iLL_BZFlag | how much is your flight to japan cap? |
| 07:45:09 | iLL_BZFlag | and how many hours? |
| 07:45:11 | iLL_BZFlag | 17+ |
| 07:45:12 | Widget | captain_proton: http://www.zompist.com/phrases.html You might find that useful. |
| 07:45:43 | captain_proton | iLL_BZFlag: well, free |
| 07:45:50 | iLL_BZFlag | how did you manage that? |
| 07:46:03 | Widget | From here to anywhere is 12plus hours. |
| 07:46:08 | captain_proton | iLL_BZFlag: 2.5 hrs to SF, 12 hours to tokyo, 30 mins to chitose |
| 07:46:21 | captain_proton | iLL_BZFlag: frequent flier miles (dad flies a LOT on business) |
| 07:46:26 | iLL_BZFlag | nice |
| 07:46:32 | iLL_BZFlag | whoya visiting? |
| 07:47:21 | captain_proton | noone |
| 07:47:32 | iLL_BZFlag | you going with someone? |
| 07:47:33 | Widget | Business, or sightseeing? |
| 07:47:39 | iLL_BZFlag | nice just going on a vacation |
| 07:47:40 | captain_proton | tagging along with my dad |
| 07:47:46 | iLL_BZFlag | oh even nicer |
| 07:47:50 | iLL_BZFlag | he picks up the tab =) |
| 07:47:55 | captain_proton | gonna go cause a ruckus at the ITU, then a week later do the same at the IETF |
| 07:48:57 | Widget | Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit... |
| 07:49:14 | Widget | Für das deutsche Vaterland.... |
| 07:49:43 | Widget | Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt... |
| 07:50:09 | Widget | Such a beautiful anthem. |
| 07:50:52 | Widget | captain_proton: Is your dad going on business? |
| 07:51:29 | captain_proton | Widget: yes - ITU & IETF |
| 07:51:39 | Widget | captain_proton: I don't know what those are. |
| 07:51:56 | captain_proton | ITU = international telecommunications union (physical networking) |
| 07:52:01 | captain_proton | IETF = internet engineering task force |
| 07:52:02 | Widget | Oh, |
| 07:52:31 | iLL_BZFlag | =) |
| 07:52:47 | iLL_BZFlag | they very international |
| 07:53:03 | Widget | Je suis peut-être saoule, mais demain matin je serai décuitée, et to seras toujours aussi hideux. |
| 07:53:29 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Je suis peut-être saoule, mais demain matin je serai décuitée, et to seras toujours aussi hideux. |
| 07:53:30 | | Widget: I am can |
| 07:53:42 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Je suis peut-être saoule, mais demain matin je serai décuitée, et to seras toujours aussi hideux. |
| 07:53:43 | | Widget: I am can |
| 07:53:48 | Widget | Hm/// |
| 07:53:52 | captain_proton | the special characters confuse him |
| 07:54:05 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Je suis peut-etre saoule, mais demain matin je serai decuitéee, et to seras toujours aussi hideux. |
| 07:54:06 | | Widget: I am perhaps drunk, but tomorrow morning I will be decuit |
| 07:54:10 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Je suis peut-etre saoule, mais demain matin je serai decuitee, et to seras toujours aussi hideux. |
| 07:54:10 | | Widget: I am perhaps drunk, but tomorrow morning I will be decuitee, and to will be always also hideous. |
| 07:54:36 | Widget | Correct translation: I may be drunk, but tomorrow morning I shall be sober, and you will still be ugly. |
| 07:54:45 | Widget | Fichez-moi la paix avec votre "cochon impérialiste", mon petit bonhomme. |
| 07:54:56 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Fichez-moi la paix avec votre "cochon imperialiste", mon petit bonhomme. |
| 07:54:57 | | Widget: Card-index to me peace with your "pig imperialist", my small catch. |
| 07:55:04 | Widget | Haha! |
| 07:55:08 | Widget | Horrible translations. |
| 07:55:11 | Widget | Simply horrible. |
| 07:55:22 | Widget | Well... it is slang. |
| 07:55:51 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Mais ce n'est pas tout! J'ai encore deux autres albums de photos! |
| 07:55:52 | | Widget: But it is not all! I have two more other albums of photographs! |
| 07:56:59 | Widget | ibot: x de en Ich liebe dich. Willst du mich heiraten? |
| 07:56:59 | | Widget: I love you. Do you want to marry me? |
| 07:57:20 | captain_proton | german is easier to computer translate into english |
| 07:57:30 | Widget | Don't be so sure. |
| 07:57:37 | Widget | I have seen my share of horrible translations. |
| 07:57:47 | Widget | ibot: x de en Euer Land hat so reizenden Schmutz. |
| 07:57:48 | | Widget: Your country has so attractive dirt. |
| 07:58:56 | Widget | ibot: x de en Mein Gott, stinkt das hier. Geht's hier zum Roten Platz? Wo sind hier die Dissidenten? Ist das Notre Dame oder der Louvre? Zu Hause nennen wir sowas ein Dorf. |
| 07:58:57 | | Widget: My God, stinks that here. Geht's here to Red Square? Where here is the Dissidenten? Is the Notre lady or the Louvre? At home we call sowas a village. |
| 07:59:27 | Widget | ibot: x de en Ja, mein Herr, ihr habt wirklich eine Müllhalde aus diesem Land gemacht. |
| 07:59:27 | | Widget: Yes, my Mr., you have really an M |
| 07:59:38 | Widget | ibot: x de en Ja, mein Herr, ihr habt wirklich eine mess aus diesem Land gemacht. |
| 07:59:39 | | Widget: Yes, my gentleman, for it really a measuring from this country made. |
| 08:00:02 | Widget | ibot: x de en Folgen sie dem Wagen. |
| 08:00:03 | | Widget: Follow they the car. |
| 08:00:23 | Widget | ibot: x es en Siga a ese carro. |
| 08:00:24 | | Widget: Follow that car. |
| 08:00:31 | Widget | That's better. |
| 08:00:31 | BZFlag | Widget: msg the bot already? |
| 08:00:55 | BZFlag | . o O ( sheesh ) |
| 08:00:57 | Widget | People are still here? |
| 08:01:05 | BZFlag | people live here. |
| 08:02:01 | Widget | Usually there is no one here around 1100 UTC. |
| 08:02:43 | Widget | will disturb the peace then. |
| 08:03:28 | BZFlag | Widget: you can open a dialod directly with ibot you know. |
| 08:03:48 | Widget | That takes all the fun out of it. |
| 08:04:04 | captain_proton | dances the near-complete implementation of thief |
| 08:06:29 | iLL_BZFlag | whats thief? |
| 08:07:00 | iLL_BZFlag | that another one of those flags you claim we don't need |
| 08:07:09 | iLL_BZFlag | or is that one we do cause you like it? |
| 08:07:11 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 08:07:16 | captain_proton | HAAH |
| 08:07:36 | captain_proton | i'm up for certain new flags |
| 08:07:42 | iLL_BZFlag | yeah i've noticed |
| 08:07:43 | captain_proton | specifically, ones that are fun |
| 08:07:53 | Widget | Like none? |
| 08:08:00 | iLL_BZFlag | we need a large one too |
| 08:08:08 | captain_proton | large one? |
| 08:08:13 | iLL_BZFlag | one thats really powerful but huge like the flags on bikes |
| 08:08:18 | iLL_BZFlag | so you can see them all over the field |
| 08:08:19 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 08:08:37 | iLL_BZFlag | yeah a flag thats like 50 units tall |
| 08:08:40 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 08:09:53 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 08:10:04 | captain_proton | sees a potential problem with apathy's implementation of thief |
| 08:12:01 | captain_proton | if you manage to zap 2 flagged tanks with your beam, they will both send you their flag |
| 08:12:26 | BZFlag | heh. |
| 08:12:53 | BZFlag | then one should get "dropped" where you are. |
| 08:13:28 | BZFlag | ie: each receive should cause you to drop your flag and get the one presented. |
| 08:13:41 | captain_proton | it may do that already, lemme check |
| 08:14:50 | captain_proton | nope |
| 08:14:53 | captain_proton | haHA! |
| 08:15:07 | captain_proton | you just have to line up players correctly, and slowly you'll eliminate all the flags! |
| 08:17:47 | captain_proton | oh wait |
| 08:17:52 | captain_proton | in bzfs: zapFlag(player[toIndex].flag); |
| 08:23:09 | captain_proton | BZFlag: is PlayerId different in bzfs than bzflag? |
| 08:24:48 | BZFlag | in 1.8? they should be the same. |
| 08:25:02 | captain_proton | bzfs.cxx:2916: request for member `unpack' in `from', which is of non-aggregate type `unsigned char' |
| 08:25:08 | captain_proton | PlayerId from, to; |
| 08:25:42 | captain_proton | buf = from.unpack(buf); |
| 08:27:31 | captain_proton | hang on |
| 08:27:39 | captain_proton | looks like this has been serously changed from 1.7 ;) |
| 08:30:16 | BZFlag | yep. playerid is a u8 in 1.8 |
| 08:30:29 | captain_proton | playerid indexes player[] directly? |
| 08:30:34 | BZFlag | yes |
| 08:30:38 | captain_proton | how convenient |
| 08:30:42 | BZFlag | heh |
| 08:31:39 | captain_proton | flag index is still ushort? |
| 08:31:41 | BZFlag | we don't need no stinkin' lookups |
| 08:32:01 | BZFlag | for the moment, yes. |
| 08:35:18 | captain_proton | looks like i'll finish with this tonight |
| 08:36:30 | captain_proton | wow...i'm actually somewhat ambivalent about going to japan |
| 08:36:41 | captain_proton | because i'm on a roll |
| 09:33:11 | iLL_BZFlag | night all |
| 12:38:54 | Doug_busy_saturd | Chestal? |
| 12:38:56 | Doug_busy_saturd | you here? |
| 12:39:08 | | Chestal was last seen on #bzflag 16 hours, 26 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: I have 3.1 at home, maybe I can take a look at it during the weekend [Fri Jul 5 21:12:46 2002] |
| 12:39:08 | Doug_busy_saturd | ibot seen Chestal |
| 12:39:31 | Doug_busy_saturd | guess not |
| 13:20:23 | Doug_gone | heh |
| 13:20:44 | Doug_gone | a 30 shot server... |
| 13:24:28 | Doug_gone | um |
| 13:24:31 | Doug_gone | anyone here? |
| 13:25:19 | dinah | shhh i have a headache |
| 13:25:35 | Doug_gone | ah |
| 13:26:54 | dinah | has this neat program that will stream video over a network |
| 13:27:04 | Doug_gone | really? |
| 13:27:09 | Doug_gone | what kind of video? |
| 13:27:12 | dinah | yup |
| 13:27:19 | Doug_gone | bah @ IE |
| 13:27:31 | dinah | avi mpg mpeg vob the whole shebang luv |
| 13:27:39 | Doug_gone | cool |
| 13:27:43 | Doug_gone | what is it called? |
| 13:27:58 | dinah | videoLAN |
| 13:28:04 | Doug_gone | ah |
| 13:29:04 | Doug_gone | is downloading chestals new bot code |
| 13:29:50 | dinah | is uninstalling xine |
| 13:29:58 | Doug_gone | lol |
| 13:30:07 | Doug_gone | ibot google for videolan |
| 13:30:08 | | Doug_gone: Google can't find videolan |
| 13:30:20 | Doug_gone | heh |
| 13:30:29 | Doug_gone | oh! |
| 13:30:37 | Doug_gone | I seen this videolan before |
| 13:30:58 | Doug_gone | was trying to stream a dvd across a network |
| 13:31:05 | dinah | www.videolan.org |
| 13:31:11 | Doug_gone | from a OS X system to a awindows system |
| 13:31:12 | Doug_gone | :) |
| 13:31:39 | dinah | i can do that, mmmm i luv samba |
| 13:31:46 | Doug_gone | lol |
| 13:31:52 | Doug_gone | you can? |
| 13:31:58 | Doug_gone | from a OS X system? |
| 13:32:00 | Doug_gone | hmmm |
| 13:32:04 | Doug_gone | where is the server? |
| 13:32:18 | dinah | pardon? |
| 13:32:29 | Doug_gone | where is the videolan server for OS X |
| 13:33:13 | dinah | on whatever machine you put it silly |
| 13:33:21 | Doug_gone | um |
| 13:33:27 | Doug_gone | but is there a binary? |
| 13:33:37 | Doug_gone | thats what I was trying to say |
| 13:33:40 | Doug_gone | ;) |
| 13:33:53 | dinah | ohhh you want to dl for mac right |
| 13:34:03 | Doug_gone | yes yes!! |
| 13:34:06 | Doug_gone | ;) |
| 13:34:20 | dinah | http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download.html scroll down to macOS X |
| 13:34:29 | Doug_gone | oh cool |
| 13:34:32 | Doug_gone | hmm |
| 13:34:37 | Doug_gone | wierd |
| 13:34:53 | Doug_gone | that single page was down for me |
| 13:34:56 | Doug_gone | but now it works |
| 13:34:58 | Doug_gone | wierd |
| 13:35:34 | dinah | changes her computers name to 'mother' like the computer from alien |
| 13:36:15 | Doug_gone | heh |
| 13:36:18 | Doug_gone | whatever |
| 13:36:32 | Doug_gone | :D |
| 13:36:36 | Doug_gone | /join #videolan |
| 13:36:50 | Doug_gone | hehe |
| 13:40:42 | | Doug_gone? |
| 13:40:42 | Doug_gone | ibot? |
| 13:43:42 | Doug_gone | heh |
| 13:43:48 | Doug_gone | um |
| 13:45:38 | dinah | begins streaming movies |
| 13:45:51 | Doug_gone | lol |
| 13:46:26 | Doug_gone | installs videolan |
| 13:47:56 | Doug_gone | hmm |
| 13:48:03 | Doug_gone | can you try connecting to me? |
| 13:48:07 | Doug_gone | 208.147.39.133 |
| 13:48:13 | Doug_gone | videolan |
| 13:48:24 | Doug_gone | it will be very lagggy |
| 13:49:02 | Doug_gone | er |
| 13:49:04 | Doug_gone | never mind |
| 13:49:06 | dinah | hmmm |
| 13:49:08 | Doug_gone | wint work |
| 13:49:12 | Doug_gone | wont* |
| 13:49:16 | Doug_gone | NAT in the way |
| 13:49:19 | Doug_gone | firewall... |
| 13:49:20 | Doug_gone | etc |
| 13:49:37 | dinah | Doug_gone: you rott |
| 13:49:48 | Doug_gone | whY? |
| 13:50:15 | Doug_gone | never mind |
| 13:50:19 | Doug_gone | I dont want to hear it |
| 13:51:13 | dinah | fires up mplayer |
| 13:51:19 | Doug_gone | lol |
| 13:51:35 | dinah | puts doug on ignore |
| 13:51:42 | Doug_eating | why? |
| 13:52:16 | Chestal | re |
| 13:52:22 | Doug_eating | hey |
| 13:53:35 | Doug_eating | chestal... |
| 13:54:03 | Doug_eating | how do I put your bot code into bzflag? |
| 13:54:16 | Chestal | uh, where did you get it? |
| 13:54:22 | Chestal | it's rather a mess |
| 13:54:23 | Doug_eating | um |
| 13:54:32 | Doug_eating | unix-ag.org |
| 13:54:34 | Doug_eating | I think |
| 13:54:37 | Chestal | basically you just replace the files |
| 13:54:42 | Doug_eating | oh |
| 13:54:43 | Doug_eating | ok |
| 13:54:49 | Chestal | 1.7 only, and it was made for an older version |
| 13:54:55 | Doug_eating | oh? |
| 13:55:01 | Chestal | doesn't it contain a very brief readme? |
| 13:55:01 | Doug_eating | so it wont work with e6? |
| 13:55:07 | Doug_eating | dunno |
| 13:55:09 | Chestal | it might work |
| 13:55:13 | Chestal | not sure |
| 13:55:14 | Doug_eating | I just downloaded it |
| 13:55:17 | Doug_eating | ok |
| 13:55:24 | Doug_eating | os off yo compile it in there |
| 13:55:24 | Chestal | it's just a hack |
| 13:55:30 | Doug_eating | lol |
| 13:55:32 | Doug_eating | ;) |
| 13:56:00 | Chestal | the bots will just sit there |
| 13:56:10 | Doug_eating | oh? |
| 13:56:16 | Chestal | they only mode to eavde shots |
| 13:56:24 | Doug_eating | oh |
| 13:56:26 | Chestal | but at least on a non-jumping setup, they're still _very_ tough |
| 13:56:26 | Doug_eating | :( |
| 13:56:31 | Doug_eating | ;)( |
| 13:56:32 | Chestal | they will shoot at you |
| 13:56:37 | Doug_eating | like on ducati? |
| 13:56:39 | Chestal | but they're kind of boring |
| 13:56:45 | Chestal | I tested them on ducati, yes |
| 13:56:47 | Doug_eating | better than what I have |
| 13:56:50 | Doug_eating | ;) |
| 13:57:06 | Chestal | for each bot, you will have to run a seperate client |
| 13:57:13 | Chestal | it's different from the integrated bots |
| 13:57:16 | Doug_eating | oh |
| 13:57:17 | Doug_eating | ok |
| 13:57:20 | Doug_eating | hmm |
| 13:57:26 | Doug_eating | cya, I am off to compile |
| 13:57:33 | Chestal | you can try, maybe the readme contains some instructions |
| 13:57:35 | Chestal | ok |
| 13:57:40 | Doug_eating | ok |
| 13:57:42 | Doug_eating | cya |
| 14:02:25 | dinah | goes for a tankride on ducati reg |
| 14:05:01 | dinah | why does it say [Team] (UNKNOWN) when ever i join a server, i wonder |
| 14:05:22 | Chestal | that's a feature ;-) |
| 14:05:41 | Chestal | actually, it is a bug that we just accept |
| 14:14:08 | Doug_eating | lol |
| 14:25:06 | dinah_ | harmpf |
| 14:25:46 | Chestal | gnfmprlfnrts? |
| 14:26:13 | dinah_ | giggles at that silly chestal chap |
| 14:29:04 | dinah | cranks up VNV Nation on the stereo :) |
| 15:38:46 | teA_ | hello |
| 15:38:54 | teA_ | any matches today ? |
| 15:39:11 | Chestal | not that I know of |
| 15:41:09 | dinah | finds a box and strikes a match |
| 16:19:18 | Chestal | grmpf |
| 16:20:03 | Chestal | I hate it when I get no support from my teammates, I guess most of the time it's just that they don't understand the current game situation well enough |
| 16:28:52 | akira_ | moinsen |
| 16:38:03 | teA_ | chestal ? |
| 16:38:08 | teA_ | hi akira_ ! |
| 16:38:19 | teA_ | hi dinah |
| 16:38:25 | akira_ | hello teA_ |
| 16:38:46 | teA_ | akira_ look at the new [ult] logo that i created :) |
| 16:39:36 | akira_ | does the logo makes you stronger as a team? are you ready for the moles? |
| 16:40:03 | teA_ | lol |
| 16:40:09 | teA_ | im ready |
| 16:40:11 | teA_ | :) |
| 16:40:15 | teA_ | ask skipp |
| 16:40:19 | teA_ | hese the leader |
| 16:47:42 | dinah | wonders why http://icculus.org/~vogon/bz-sdl.html is in the topic |
| 16:48:18 | Doug_busy | good question |
| 16:48:33 | dinah | this is #bzflag not #zork |
| 16:48:40 | Doug_busy | try this |
| 16:48:41 | Doug_busy | http://icculus.org/~vogon/bobotheclown.html |
| 16:48:50 | Doug_busy | ;) |
| 16:49:01 | Doug_busy | bah |
| 16:49:12 | Doug_busy | videolan does not have OS X server |
| 16:49:20 | Doug_busy | so no streaming dvds.... |
| 16:49:21 | Doug_busy | :( |
| 16:49:23 | Doug_busy | yet |
| 16:49:40 | dinah | its their 404 message i take it |
| 16:49:47 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 16:49:48 | Doug_busy | yup |
| 16:51:43 | dinah | oops forgot to check my weapons |
| 16:51:49 | dinah | checks them |
| 16:51:56 | dinah | yup they work ;) |
| 16:52:47 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 16:54:03 | dinah | is sick of blokes who throttle uploads on gnutella |
| 16:56:19 | akira_ | moin |
| 16:56:25 | akira_ | or better back |
| 16:57:15 | dinah | |
| 16:57:40 | dinah | learned to beep |
| 16:58:14 | akira_ | ahja? |
| 17:04:28 | Patlabor221 | is away: I'm busy |
| 17:08:35 | Doug_busy | hey |
| 17:08:46 | Doug_busy | anyone test my server? |
| 17:09:47 | Doug_busy | anyone can test my server? |
| 17:09:53 | Doug_busy | dinah? |
| 17:10:04 | dinah | finds no doug server |
| 17:10:08 | Doug_busy | oh |
| 17:10:16 | Doug_busy | ip is 208.147.39.133 |
| 17:10:18 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 17:10:23 | Doug_busy | its a 30 shot server |
| 17:10:33 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 17:11:03 | Doug_busy | hey |
| 17:11:07 | Doug_busy | did you try it? |
| 17:11:12 | Doug_busy | shoot 30 shots |
| 17:13:42 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 17:14:07 | dinah | add doug to her ignore |
| 17:14:42 | Patlabor221 | is back (gone 00:10:14) |
| 17:19:45 | Doug_busy | Patlabor221: you here? |
| 17:20:29 | Patlabor221 | ya |
| 17:20:38 | Doug_busy | starts sorting his 200+ cdrom collection of micosoft develement software and system software |
| 17:20:39 | Doug_busy | um |
| 17:20:45 | Doug_busy | could you test my server? |
| 17:20:53 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:20:57 | Doug_busy | 208.147.39.133 |
| 17:20:58 | Patlabor221 | one quik sec |
| 17:21:15 | Doug_busy | ok |
| 17:21:19 | Doug_busy | meet ya there |
| 17:21:29 | ritchie_ | ill give it a go in a sec |
| 17:21:31 | ritchie_ | if ya like |
| 17:21:50 | Patlabor221 | wishes you could pase servers into bz |
| 17:21:59 | ritchie_ | well |
| 17:22:01 | ritchie_ | for windows |
| 17:22:04 | ritchie_ | i made a bz starter |
| 17:22:07 | ritchie_ | which does that |
| 17:22:10 | ritchie_ | otherwise |
| 17:22:16 | ritchie_ | which os u on? |
| 17:22:16 | Doug_busy | ok |
| 17:22:20 | Doug_busy | windowz |
| 17:22:24 | ritchie_ | patlabor? |
| 17:22:40 | ritchie_ | you can start bzflag from the command line |
| 17:22:41 | ritchie_ | with |
| 17:22:55 | ritchie_ | bzflag -port 5155 -team green 208.147.39.133 |
| 17:22:55 | ritchie_ | [18:24] <Patlabor221> one quik sec |
| 17:23:02 | ritchie_ | whoops |
| 17:23:04 | ritchie_ | cancel that |
| 17:23:08 | ritchie_ | bzflag -port 5155 -team green 208.147.39.133 |
| 17:23:11 | ritchie_ | for example |
| 17:23:17 | ritchie_ | would start bz and go to that server |
| 17:24:38 | Patlabor221 | that is cool |
| 17:24:49 | Patlabor221 | forgets how to type a message in bz |
| 17:24:53 | ritchie_ | pres |
| 17:24:53 | ritchie_ | s |
| 17:24:54 | ritchie_ | n |
| 17:30:40 | Doug_busy | oops |
| 17:30:46 | Doug_busy | the server was using all the CPU |
| 17:30:47 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 17:34:06 | Patlabor221 | not the best server code there then slick |
| 17:34:19 | Patlabor221 | it's an interesting change |
| 17:34:33 | Patlabor221 | but it would just make it a complete lamma frag fest |
| 17:35:05 | Patlabor221 | it needs some balancing |
| 17:35:20 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 17:36:01 | Patlabor221 | right now you efectivly have infinate fire |
| 17:36:16 | Patlabor221 | the releoad time is less then the time it takes to fire all 40 shots |
| 17:36:20 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 17:36:21 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 17:36:40 | Patlabor221 | and if they have full range and shot properties then it's nasty |
| 17:36:55 | Patlabor221 | if you look at the machine gun flag, it realy shortens the range |
| 17:37:04 | Patlabor221 | makes it a bit more fair |
| 17:37:19 | Patlabor221 | unlike the GM |
| 17:37:27 | Patlabor221 | that sucker needs a shot counter |
| 17:37:33 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 17:37:36 | Patlabor221 | 10 shots bam you lose the flag |
| 17:37:48 | Doug_busy | it need the code in the game itself to be changed |
| 17:37:53 | Doug_busy | :( |
| 17:37:55 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:38:07 | Patlabor221 | chage the client to get all these paramaters from the server |
| 17:38:20 | Patlabor221 | if the server does not provide them set them to the current defaults |
| 17:38:43 | Patlabor221 | then you can change server setings to your hearts content |
| 17:39:39 | Patlabor221 | me must go locate the lucky domino |
| 17:41:05 | Patlabor221 | off to work |
| 17:55:31 | Doug_busy | work eh? |
| 17:57:24 | patlabor221 | well I must have IRC at each job :) |
| 17:58:13 | patlabor221 | I"m just at this office for a bit to get some files |
| 17:58:21 | patlabor221 | it's the one with the T1 |
| 18:00:52 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 18:02:53 | dinah | goes for a tankride on server2.thinknerd |
| 18:03:01 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 18:03:49 | dinah | enters stealth mode |
| 18:04:43 | dinah | cheater on thinknered name yoyoman |
| 18:05:29 | dinah | fast shots and supper speed |
| 18:06:30 | captain_proton | supper speed? |
| 18:06:44 | dinah | really reallt fast |
| 18:06:47 | patlabor221 | wonder how hard it would be to make an automated server side "ref" |
| 18:06:58 | captain_proton | patlabor221: we want to =/ |
| 18:09:22 | patlabor221 | would be nice if all the tank paramaters were stored server side |
| 18:09:30 | patlabor221 | and sent to the clients at login |
| 18:09:43 | patlabor221 | then the ref would know what was "expected" |
| 18:09:52 | Doug_busy | yea!! |
| 18:10:05 | patlabor221 | and would allow map specific variations |
| 18:10:23 | Doug_busy | like my 30 shot server |
| 18:10:24 | Doug_busy | ;) |
| 18:10:28 | dinah | envisions a bzflag "big brother" |
| 18:10:31 | patlabor221 | let all the script kiddies blow each other up ona "fragfest" server |
| 18:10:43 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 18:10:46 | patlabor221 | well right now it takes people to be the "big brother" |
| 18:10:52 | patlabor221 | and it could allways be optional |
| 18:11:01 | patlabor221 | like for tourny games |
| 18:11:04 | captain_proton | hmm - i was gonna do that today actually |
| 18:11:10 | dinah | big brother is watching |
| 18:11:12 | Doug_busy | cool |
| 18:11:18 | patlabor221 | the server having all the stats? |
| 18:11:23 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 18:11:26 | patlabor221 | good |
| 18:11:27 | Widget | Why is it Big Brother and not Big Sister? |
| 18:11:32 | Widget | Oh, I know why!!!! |
| 18:11:34 | Doug_busy | bah |
| 18:11:49 | dinah | because orwell was sexist |
| 18:11:50 | patlabor221 | cus big sisters are allways hot |
| 18:11:51 | Widget | When they change B B in front of the TV in the three minutes of hate.... |
| 18:11:58 | Widget | s/change/chant |
| 18:12:04 | captain_proton | agrees with patlabor221 |
| 18:12:07 | Widget | Then it would be B S B S if it were Big Sister. |
| 18:12:13 | patlabor221 | for some reason they allways were |
| 18:12:19 | patlabor221 | I didn't ahve one |
| 18:12:36 | captain_proton | hee |
| 18:12:39 | patlabor221 | but other people big sisters sure were :) |
| 18:12:45 | captain_proton | i don't think your own big sister would be hot |
| 18:12:48 | captain_proton | just those of friends |
| 18:13:24 | dinah | considers eating dinner |
| 18:13:34 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 18:13:43 | patlabor221 | lunch time allready? |
| 18:13:59 | patlabor221 | well time to go to the other job's office |
| 18:14:00 | Widget | considers eating breakfast. |
| 18:14:09 | dinah | i eat dinner at 7pm |
| 18:14:10 | patlabor221 | good thing they are all on the same road |
| 18:14:21 | Widget | dinah: You're late. |
| 18:14:43 | Widget | just saw the funniest leave message on another IRC channel. |
| 18:14:50 | Doug_busy | hmm? |
| 18:14:52 | Doug_busy | what was it? |
| 18:14:53 | Widget | Well..... funny to me. |
| 18:15:08 | Widget | <10-11- Mardy has quit 14(Quit: Ormai e` tardi, smettila Mardy!14) |
| 18:15:18 | Widget | Means: |
| 18:15:37 | Widget | By now it is already late, go away, Mardy! |
| 18:15:38 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 18:16:34 | captain_proton | woohoo i think i may have fixed this |
| 18:16:40 | Doug_busy | good |
| 18:17:20 | patlabor221 | off to the BatTruck. |
| 18:17:24 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 18:18:11 | dinah | captain_proton: fixed what? |
| 19:21:01 | Widget | Accursed allergies. |
| 19:21:08 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 19:21:55 | Doug_busy | AHA!! |
| 19:21:59 | Doug_busy | Widget: http://applefritter.com/hacks/illuminatedmac/index2.html |
| 19:23:20 | Widget | I've seen mods like that. Mac mods usually suck. |
| 19:23:26 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 19:23:28 | Doug_busy | true |
| 19:23:35 | Doug_busy | but pretty cool |
| 19:23:38 | Doug_busy | looking |
| 19:24:03 | Widget | Yah. |
| 19:24:07 | Widget | But I don't have an iMac. |
| 19:24:12 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 19:24:16 | Doug_busy | look at this |
| 19:24:18 | Doug_busy | http://applefritter.com/hacks/blueiceg4/p4.html |
| 20:01:18 | Doug_busy | Widget: http://www.applefritter.com/ui/aux/index.html |
| 20:02:35 | Widget | Doug_busy: I shall never stoop to modding. |
| 20:02:44 | Doug_busy | no |
| 20:02:47 | Doug_busy | its not a mod |
| 20:02:56 | Doug_busy | its Apple's unix |
| 20:02:57 | Doug_busy | cool |
| 20:03:11 | Widget | Oh, that. That's ooooold. |
| 20:03:12 | jpablo | hey |
| 20:03:18 | Widget | hihihi, jpablo! |
| 20:03:27 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 20:03:29 | Doug_busy | cool though |
| 20:03:46 | Widget | ¡Look at all the cóól things I can do with a Spànish Kêÿboard! |
| 20:03:53 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:03:56 | Doug_busy | Ñ |
| 20:03:58 | Doug_busy | mee too |
| 20:04:00 | Widget | çÇ |
| 20:04:09 | Widget | ñÑ |
| 20:04:11 | Doug_busy | I have to type ALT-#### |
| 20:04:15 | Doug_busy | ¦ |
| 20:04:17 | Doug_busy | - |
| 20:04:17 | Widget | Haha. Windows luser. |
| 20:04:19 | Doug_busy | · |
| 20:04:20 | Widget | - |
| 20:04:21 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 20:04:23 | Widget | º |
| 20:04:24 | Widget | ª |
| 20:04:25 | Doug_busy | apples rule |
| 20:04:28 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 20:04:31 | Widget | £ |
| 20:04:39 | Doug_busy | just hit option-(letter) |
| 20:04:42 | Widget | Apples were horrible. They ran DOS. Macs are cool. |
| 20:04:42 | Doug_busy | Æ |
| 20:04:46 | Doug_busy | er |
| 20:04:50 | Doug_busy | macintoshes |
| 20:04:53 | Doug_busy | I meatn |
| 20:05:06 | Widget | How come I can't type the Euro symbol, eh!?!?! |
| 20:05:12 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 20:05:19 | Widget | Wait. |
| 20:05:20 | Widget | I can!!!! |
| 20:05:21 | Doug_busy | û |
| 20:05:23 | Widget | I can do it in Konqueror. |
| 20:05:24 | Doug_busy | Æ |
| 20:05:24 | Widget | But not here. |
| 20:05:27 | Doug_busy | H |
| 20:05:36 | Widget | So neat!!! |
| 20:05:38 | Widget | I can type Euros!!!! |
| 20:05:42 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:05:44 | dinah | had an old texas insteements computer that had solid state cartridges and casset tapes... |
| 20:06:05 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:06:12 | Doug_busy | .me had an old PC Jr. |
| 20:06:17 | Doug_busy | :D |
| 20:06:26 | Widget | jpablo: Is there any way to be able to type the Euro symbol in XChat? I can only do it in KDE programs (Like KWord, or in the address box for Konqueror) |
| 20:06:29 | Doug_busy | I learned programming on it |
| 20:06:30 | dinah | no moniter, had to hool it up to a telle |
| 20:06:39 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:06:41 | Doug_busy | thats old |
| 20:07:04 | Widget | dinah: Newfangled stuff. I used slide rules and abacii! |
| 20:07:12 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 20:07:20 | Doug_busy | then how do you use XCHAT? |
| 20:07:26 | Doug_busy | dictation? |
| 20:07:28 | jpablo | Widget: i think there's a way but i don't know how to do it. |
| 20:07:43 | jpablo | i think there's a howto somethere in debian.org |
| 20:07:46 | Widget | jpablo: A lot of people on Italian and German servers can do it.... |
| 20:07:51 | Widget | jpablo: But for me, it appears as a box. |
| 20:07:57 | dinah | Æ |
| 20:08:08 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 20:08:09 | jpablo | Widget: then your charset is fucked. |
| 20:08:10 | Doug_busy | ¦ |
| 20:08:12 | Doug_busy | § |
| 20:08:13 | Doug_busy | cool |
| 20:08:22 | dinah | ¦§ |
| 20:08:23 | Widget | jpablo: Why? It appears in KWord! |
| 20:08:25 | captain_proton | returns |
| 20:08:32 | Doug_busy | §¦d |
| 20:08:39 | jpablo | you need something like: lang_COUNTRY@euro or something like that. |
| 20:08:40 | dinah | ¤ |
| 20:08:40 | Widget | jpablo: But in X-Chat, the euro symbol appears as a box. |
| 20:08:51 | captain_proton | Widget: depends on your font |
| 20:09:03 | jpablo | the font you are using on gtk programs does not support the euro. |
| 20:09:11 | dinah | ¤= how many £ |
| 20:09:23 | dinah | ;) |
| 20:10:00 | Widget | captain_proton: Where can I find out? |
| 20:10:18 | Widget | jpablo: X-Chat uses a different font for the main window than the default GTK font, I think.... |
| 20:10:21 | dinah | wonders where patlabor221 has gotten to |
| 20:10:23 | Widget | jpablo: What fonts support euro? |
| 20:10:26 | Doug_busy | Widget: try sending the little block |
| 20:10:38 | Widget | Doug_busy: I can't. It won't paste. |
| 20:10:43 | Doug_busy | oh |
| 20:10:45 | captain_proton | Widget: in settings |
| 20:11:00 | Widget | captain_proton: The font for Channel Windows? |
| 20:11:05 | captain_proton | Widget: sure |
| 20:11:08 | Widget | captain_proton: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 |
| 20:11:28 | captain_proton | uhm - ok |
| 20:11:34 | captain_proton | i don't have all the font maps memorized |
| 20:11:42 | Widget | Can you see the Euro symbol? |
| 20:11:52 | captain_proton | where? |
| 20:12:07 | Widget | In X-Chat... has anyone ever typed a Euro symbol to you? |
| 20:12:12 | captain_proton | nope |
| 20:13:12 | dinah | ¤ <- euro symbol!!!!! |
| 20:13:16 | Widget | ¤ |
| 20:13:23 | Doug_busy | ah |
| 20:13:25 | Doug_busy | nope |
| 20:13:28 | Doug_busy | unless it me |
| 20:13:30 | Widget | That appears as a small circle with little things sticking out. |
| 20:13:31 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 20:13:34 | Widget | That is not the Euro symbol. |
| 20:13:38 | dinah | is so |
| 20:13:39 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:13:40 | Doug_busy | I get a = |
| 20:13:43 | captain_proton | nope |
| 20:13:47 | captain_proton | i see a capital pi |
| 20:13:56 | Widget | Haha. |
| 20:13:57 | dinah | it should be a c with two horizontal lines through it |
| 20:14:00 | Widget | We all get different things. |
| 20:14:06 | Widget | dinah: Well, none of us see it like that. |
| 20:14:23 | dinah | <Widget> ¤ you did one ;) |
| 20:14:23 | Widget | Let me ask someone on an Italian channel. |
| 20:14:40 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:14:55 | Doug_busy | bah |
| 20:15:14 | dinah | stop it doug more than one is rude |
| 20:15:24 | Doug_busy | all I did was one |
| 20:15:27 | Doug_busy | and a ping too |
| 20:15:34 | dinah | puts doug on ignore forever |
| 20:15:41 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 20:16:07 | Widget | Potrebbe qualcuno scrivere prego il carattere euro? |
| 20:16:14 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 20:16:26 | dinah | Widget: worng channel.... |
| 20:16:47 | Widget | dinah: They did it, and it looked like a little box! |
| 20:17:18 | dinah | ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ |
| 20:17:29 | dinah | hates the euro |
| 20:18:09 | Widget | £!!!! |
| 20:18:15 | Doug_busy | nope |
| 20:18:20 | dinah | pounds are awsome |
| 20:18:28 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:18:52 | captain_proton | imagines a day when people actually talk about bzflag on #bzflag |
| 20:18:57 | Widget | £ £ £ £ £ £ £ |
| 20:18:59 | Doug_busy | um |
| 20:19:07 | Widget | NZD |
| 20:19:09 | dinah | Widget: i can send and see the euro eith x-chat 1.8.9, perhaps other versions dont work |
| 20:19:23 | Doug_busy | when is 1.8 comeing out? (on topic) |
| 20:19:24 | jpablo | damn, i'm on #bzflag ? |
| 20:19:25 | Widget | dinah: What font are you using? |
| 20:19:43 | captain_proton | Doug_busy: real soon now |
| 20:19:45 | dinah | was told she can talk bout anything by BZFlag himself, so long as no gets mad |
| 20:20:01 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 20:20:14 | dinah | Widget: -*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-*-*-* |
| 20:20:16 | Widget | dinah: Settings --)) Channel Windows --)) Font |
| 20:20:17 | Widget | Hm. |
| 20:20:50 | Widget | dinah: Interesting. Now I see the Euro symbol properly, but I don't see the pound properly. |
| 20:20:51 | dinah | its the default it came with... |
| 20:20:53 | Widget | dinah: And the text is so big!!! |
| 20:21:27 | Widget | dinah: And now instead of a box, nothing happens when others type the Euro symbol on the Italian server! |
| 20:21:38 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:23:36 | Widget | dinah: Do you see this as a pound sign? £ |
| 20:23:42 | dinah | yes |
| 20:24:05 | dinah | Widget: what is the italian channel, i wonder what it looks like for me... |
| 20:24:16 | bugg | does anyone have any idea how well bzflag runs with software rendering? I'm currently looking at getting a laptop that has a savage4 chip, and I won't be able to take advantage of its hardware acceleration w/o windows |
| 20:24:30 | Widget | dinah: The server is sogno.net |
| 20:24:38 | Widget | dinah: Come to channel #amici |
| 20:24:47 | dinah | bugg: software get bad fps |
| 20:25:01 | bugg | dinah: Yeah, I'm aware it's going to suck, but will it be playable? |
| 20:25:23 | bugg | Could I get 30fps with a 2GHz Athlon w/software rendering and all effects/detail turned off/down? |
| 20:25:30 | Doug_busy | um |
| 20:25:33 | dinah | bugg; yes bout only 30 fps with lowquality and no texture |
| 20:25:48 | Doug_busy | 2 ghz? |
| 20:25:51 | Doug_busy | sheesh |
| 20:25:55 | dinah | Widget how to i join another server? im not skilled at this |
| 20:26:00 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 20:26:26 | bugg | good enough for me (this only has to last until DRI support comes along, and I will keep a windows partition- but where's the fun in having to leave your OS for bzflag?) |
| 20:26:26 | Widget | dinah: You will have to add it to your server list. |
| 20:26:37 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 20:26:43 | Doug_busy | its should be pretty good |
| 20:26:47 | bugg | Doug_busy: Yeah, it's over a five-fold improvement for me |
| 20:26:52 | Widget | dinah: Open it from the X-Chat menu, and create a New Server. |
| 20:26:53 | dinah | bugg: in software i got 30-32 fps with blending and smothing and all, but no texture or quality |
| 20:26:54 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 20:26:59 | bugg | I'm here with a 400MHz Celeron and a rage128 with 8 megs of onboard |
| 20:27:23 | bugg | dinah: Processor? |
| 20:27:50 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 20:27:52 | bugg | Doug_busy: And that's my desktop, so I'll be going to a laptop, that well, will be smokin' |
| 20:27:59 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:28:01 | bugg | but hopefully not literally |
| 20:28:01 | Doug_busy | well |
| 20:28:09 | Doug_busy | it "should" be much faster |
| 20:28:17 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 20:28:24 | bugg | but I can use my hardware acceleration on the rage128 |
| 20:28:27 | dinah | argh |
| 20:28:27 | bugg | that's the catch |
| 20:28:31 | bugg | dinah: Processor? |
| 20:28:35 | Doug_busy | oh |
| 20:29:05 | dinah | AMD 2 gigaherz |
| 20:29:19 | bugg | ah, so we're talking very similar setups here |
| 20:29:36 | dinah | yes but i had only 256k of ram at the time ;) |
| 20:29:46 | captain_proton | 256k/? |
| 20:29:47 | bugg | k? |
| 20:29:53 | bugg | as everyone does a double-take |
| 20:30:09 | Doug_busy | LOL!! |
| 20:30:20 | Doug_busy | wow, where did ya get that computer? |
| 20:30:22 | bugg | I had 640k on my 8088, you know |
| 20:30:30 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:30:35 | dinah | has since aquired much more |
| 20:30:44 | Doug_busy | 640 k should be enuf for anyone |
| 20:31:13 | bugg | is happy to see familiar faces from ducati on an IRC server- talking without having to be worried about fragging, neat! :) |
| 20:31:34 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:31:42 | Doug_busy | I am breadhat/redhat |
| 20:31:53 | bugg | ahh |
| 20:32:00 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 20:32:04 | bugg | doesn't like people who put what they're running in their handle, and I think I've made that comment to you before |
| 20:32:05 | dinah | checks her system info, 1gb DDR Ram ;) |
| 20:32:11 | Doug_busy | wooho |
| 20:32:20 | captain_proton | bugg: he doesn't ;) |
| 20:32:20 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 20:32:26 | captain_proton | bugg: he runs windows |
| 20:32:39 | bugg | dinah: Which is a four-fold increase from where you were? a 4,000-fold increase? (checking the k/mb thing) |
| 20:32:51 | bugg | ok, now that's just plain weird |
| 20:33:17 | dinah | didnt know anthing bout pc's she was a mac girl... |
| 20:33:28 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 20:33:37 | Doug_busy | I give up on finding a/ux system |
| 20:33:40 | Doug_busy | :( |
| 20:33:42 | Doug_busy | I want it.. |
| 20:33:52 | Doug_busy | X-windows and the finder all in one |
| 20:33:56 | Doug_busy | on a mac |
| 20:33:59 | captain_proton | 'lo patlabor221 |
| 20:34:00 | Doug_busy | running unix |
| 20:34:01 | bugg | wasn't fully aware that dinah was a she |
| 20:34:06 | Doug_busy | she is |
| 20:34:12 | bugg | os/x you mean? |
| 20:34:23 | Doug_busy | nope |
| 20:34:28 | bugg | or are you really looking for A/UX? |
| 20:34:35 | Doug_busy | I am |
| 20:34:36 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 20:34:38 | bugg | interesting... why? |
| 20:34:39 | Doug_busy | for free... |
| 20:34:47 | Doug_busy | X-windows and the finder all in one |
| 20:34:48 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 20:34:51 | Doug_busy | thats cool |
| 20:35:07 | Doug_busy | and I have a emulator here that can run it all full speed |
| 20:35:08 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 20:35:23 | bugg | dinah: I had gotten the idea that you were a she at first (from your handle), then something somewhere made me think that you were a he |
| 20:35:36 | Doug_busy | she does that |
| 20:35:50 | dinah | bugg: what was that something? and where was it? |
| 20:36:04 | bugg | I don't remember |
| 20:36:13 | bugg | must have been something that someone said to you |
| 20:36:14 | bugg | on ductai |
| 20:36:29 | bugg | s/ductai/ducati/ |
| 20:36:35 | dinah | wonders what they might have said |
| 20:40:35 | captain_proton | wtfs |
| 20:40:54 | Doug_busy | tsk tsk |
| 20:41:09 | dinah | feels that whit doug on ignore she misses out on stuff. she likes it that way |
| 20:42:27 | Widget | Doug_busy: You really think so? |
| 20:42:33 | Widget | Doug_busy: That's really mean. |
| 20:42:36 | captain_proton | Doug_busy: you can complain about my wtfing iff you solve my problem |
| 20:42:39 | Widget | Doug_busy: If you're not careful, I'll tell dinah. |
| 20:42:48 | captain_proton | otherwise, put a sock in it |
| 20:43:14 | bugg | chuckles |
| 20:46:03 | captain_proton | oh wonderful |
| 20:46:07 | captain_proton | ogg doesn't actually work |
| 20:46:16 | patlabor221 | it dosn't? |
| 20:46:30 | captain_proton | it was just tricking me because it was falling back on my system-wide data dir |
| 20:46:32 | captain_proton | without complaining |
| 20:47:22 | bugg | what're you doing with ogg? |
| 20:48:20 | captain_proton | sound effects |
| 20:48:28 | bugg | why? |
| 20:48:44 | bugg | I assume you're talking about sound effects for bzflag, that is |
| 20:49:07 | bugg | actually, I don't know why I just asked why |
| 20:49:25 | bugg | I'm usually the type to ask "why not" instead of "why" |
| 20:49:26 | captain_proton | because wavs are big |
| 20:49:26 | patlabor221 | it's that dammed monkey curiosity |
| 20:49:28 | dinah | points to doug -> http://www.heckaman.com/family/TadOct01.jpg |
| 20:49:45 | Doug_busy | stop doing that or I will pull it |
| 20:50:04 | Widget_ | Hm... this is tad? |
| 20:50:22 | Widget_ | Very well, this image has just been saved and will be mirrored in about five places by tonight. |
| 20:50:31 | Doug_busy | ack |
| 20:50:35 | Doug_busy | I will sie |
| 20:50:37 | Doug_busy | sue |
| 20:50:41 | Widget | OK. |
| 20:50:42 | dinah | smiles at widget |
| 20:50:46 | Widget | Let's see if the Euro symbol works now. |
| 20:50:52 | bugg | ok, on e6 it appears that we have 1.6 megs of wavs - stereo, 16-bit, 22KHz |
| 20:50:53 | Widget | ? |
| 20:50:59 | Widget | Sigh.... |
| 20:51:07 | captain_proton | bugg: yes |
| 20:51:08 | bugg | must they be stereo? |
| 20:51:09 | Widget | It appears in my text box, but I see it as a questionmark |
| 20:51:10 | patlabor221 | ewww 22khz |
| 20:51:16 | patlabor221 | they don't |
| 20:51:18 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yes :( |
| 20:51:26 | bugg | 22khz is fine enough for explosions |
| 20:51:31 | dinah | widget that was a question mark... |
| 20:51:41 | captain_proton | bugg: well, at most that would reduce by half - ogg drops it down to 300k |
| 20:51:41 | patlabor221 | ogg will allow them to be higher quality and smaller |
| 20:51:52 | Widget | dinah: I know! It's just not fair! |
| 20:51:55 | patlabor221 | then there can be more of them |
| 20:51:57 | dinah | ¤ <- is a euro |
| 20:52:05 | iLLf8d | checked bzmail no matches today? |
| 20:52:18 | iLLf8d | captain_proton: you here from freelancer? |
| 20:52:27 | Widget | dinah: In ISO8859-15 encoding only. |
| 20:52:27 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: sorta |
| 20:52:32 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:52:38 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: said he'd be available after 20:00 |
| 20:52:39 | iLLf8d | so uhm? |
| 20:52:45 | iLLf8d | his time ? |
| 20:52:45 | captain_proton | which i believe is in 4 minutes |
| 20:52:50 | bugg | captain_proton: Right. And how big are the ogg decoding routines? |
| 20:52:57 | Widget | Does any distribution support Euros right out of the box? |
| 20:53:02 | captain_proton | bugg: ogg decoding is done in libvorbisfile |
| 20:53:04 | Widget | Without having to download new packages, etc.? |
| 20:53:16 | captain_proton | not in bzflag direct |
| 20:53:24 | bugg | which bzflag currently doesn't link against |
| 20:53:29 | captain_proton | yes it does ;) |
| 20:53:30 | iLLf8d | 8 his time is 5 my time so wouldn't that be in 3 hours? |
| 20:54:07 | captain_proton | 8 UTC |
| 20:54:15 | captain_proton | err |
| 20:54:16 | iLLf8d | widget are euros big in NZ? |
| 20:54:21 | captain_proton | which would have been 2 hours ago |
| 20:54:27 | bugg | so you're talking about adding a library dependency to reduce the installed size by 200-300k or so? |
| 20:54:47 | captain_proton | bugg: sound effects are just the beginning |
| 20:54:53 | Widget | iLLf8d: No, but I want to be able to see them anyways. |
| 20:54:54 | patlabor221 | should be more then that |
| 20:54:56 | dinah | dont most of us already have ogg support? |
| 20:54:56 | captain_proton | bugg: music will follow ;) |
| 20:55:00 | Widget | iLLf8d: And perhaps it will be bigger in the UK. |
| 20:55:09 | iLLf8d | just curious =) |
| 20:55:11 | patlabor221 | MP3 is 11 to 1 and I thought ogg was smaller then that |
| 20:55:20 | bugg | runs xmms in the background; bzflag's sound capabilities are wasted on him |
| 20:55:22 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yes, ogg is slightly better |
| 20:55:26 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:56:05 | captain_proton | bugg: some systems don't support multi-open dsp devices or user-space mixers, so... |
| 20:56:15 | bugg | captain_proton: Mine doesn't. |
| 20:56:23 | dinah | /join #vorbis for more usefull info... |
| 20:56:32 | captain_proton | bugg: exactly... |
| 20:56:43 | captain_proton | so, you specify the music you want, and it mixes inside bzflag |
| 20:56:47 | Doug_busy | cool |
| 20:56:53 | Doug_busy | I want classical |
| 20:56:55 | captain_proton | or let the server op specify the soundtrack for you ;) |
| 20:56:55 | bugg | captain_proton: The music I want.... encoded as ogg |
| 20:56:57 | Doug_busy | or holst |
| 20:56:58 | iLLf8d | well cap if free shows up and you're ready for a game just private message me a few dozen times I should hear the beeping |
| 20:57:09 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 20:57:13 | bugg | to be blunt, not bloody likely |
| 20:57:13 | bugg | heh |
| 20:57:34 | dinah | can we play music in bzflag now!!!???? |
| 20:57:35 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: coo |
| 20:57:39 | captain_proton | dinah: not quite yet |
| 20:57:47 | dinah | sigh |
| 20:57:54 | bugg | I personally have encoded over 1.1 gigs of mp3s (mostly beatles) and downloaded almost that amount as well... no way you're getting me to leave mp3 |
| 20:58:12 | iLLf8d | dinah just do what I do... play it on a local server and have it share the same speakers as the game =) |
| 20:58:18 | bugg | not until you're talking about a *considerable* improvement in size/quality |
| 20:58:23 | dinah | me has 4gigs, but loves ogg more |
| 20:58:30 | iLLf8d | my altecs letya have more then one source input at once |
| 20:59:16 | bugg | what advantages does ogg have over VBR mp3? (my mp3s are CBR, but that's besides the point right now) |
| 20:59:21 | dinah | Widget is using KDE!!!!! |
| 20:59:37 | jpablo | pffft. |
| 20:59:37 | captain_proton | bugg: slightly better sound quality, no patents |
| 20:59:42 | jpablo | [Qt]Widget. |
| 20:59:59 | Widget_ | Sigh... |
| 21:00:08 | bugg | captain_proton: I'm way too pragmatic to care about patents. |
| 21:00:16 | Widget_ | dinah: Type your euro symbol again. |
| 21:00:17 | bugg | Although I realize I am not the bzflag project. |
| 21:00:20 | captain_proton | bugg: as in, we can build ogg decoding into bzflag without jumping through hoops |
| 21:00:32 | dinah | Widget_: say please =P |
| 21:00:39 | Widget_ | dinah: OK. I said it. |
| 21:00:49 | dinah | ¤ <- euro |
| 21:00:50 | Widget_ | ¤ |
| 21:00:52 | Widget_ | Yay!!!!! |
| 21:00:54 | Widget_ | I can see it now!! |
| 21:01:03 | bryjen | anyone got admin on jzuan.com? |
| 21:01:10 | Widget_ | dinah: What do you type to get that? |
| 21:01:18 | freelancer | hi all |
| 21:01:47 | freelancer | hi cap |
| 21:01:54 | captain_proton | bryjen: i have server admin if thats what you're asking |
| 21:02:02 | dinah | Widget_: i open my ascci control pannel or i hit the ¤ button on my keyboard |
| 21:02:05 | bryjen | we have a cheater there |
| 21:02:26 | Widget_ | dinah: Your keyboard has a ¤ button? I have a UK keyboard, and it does not have that. |
| 21:02:27 | freelancer | hi cap get my message |
| 21:02:57 | dinah | Widget_: your bloody right i have a ¤ button |
| 21:03:03 | jpablo | Widget_: i think on the spanish keyboard you can get a euro typing algr+e |
| 21:03:04 | bugg | knows jzaun, but doubt he can get in touch with him fast enough |
| 21:03:06 | lament | hi |
| 21:03:12 | captain_proton | freelancer: yes |
| 21:03:15 | captain_proton | bryjen: hang on |
| 21:03:20 | captain_proton | bryjen: who is the cheater? |
| 21:03:35 | Widget_ | jpablo: I get a Euro symbol from AltGR+E in KDE, but not in XCHat. |
| 21:03:39 | bryjen | it was super perfect cell. i think he left. |
| 21:03:45 | captain_proton | oop, nevermind |
| 21:03:54 | captain_proton | jzaun has the server started without a password set =| |
| 21:04:14 | iLLf8d | are there any teams in channel atm? |
| 21:04:20 | iLLf8d | ATTENTION? are there any teams in channel atm? |
| 21:04:22 | dinah | wants to make sure no one ever gives her an admin pswrd, she'll kick any ol wanker for fun |
| 21:04:23 | bugg | is technically a developer of GGZ alongside jzaun |
| 21:04:31 | bugg | emphasis on technically |
| 21:04:32 | captain_proton | GGZ? |
| 21:04:35 | bugg | yeah |
| 21:04:41 | bugg | ggz.sourceforge |
| 21:04:49 | bugg | GNU gaming zone |
| 21:05:04 | dinah | is here and MortimeR and Condon are on the list, but maybe not around |
| 21:05:10 | bugg | actually, they may be the GGZ gaming zone now (thankfully) |
| 21:05:30 | MortimeR | uhh |
| 21:06:04 | Widget_ | Super perfect cell on ducati again. |
| 21:06:09 | Widget_ | He's still there. |
| 21:06:11 | captain_proton | ducati 5156? |
| 21:06:13 | Widget_ | Shooting everyone with genocide. |
| 21:06:15 | Widget_ | Yah. |
| 21:06:18 | Widget_ | 5156. |
| 21:06:20 | bugg | gah, I can't stand him |
| 21:06:30 | dinah | get his ip! |
| 21:07:11 | bugg | his IP seems to change within a class B or somesuch, or so I've heard |
| 21:07:39 | Doug_busy | whjate?? |
| 21:07:40 | freelancer | hey captain hear from the loops??? |
| 21:07:45 | captain_proton | freelancer: not really |
| 21:07:45 | dinah | will use his ip on some script kiddie haxor channel just to shake his shit up ;) |
| 21:08:05 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 21:08:11 | captain_proton | Widget_: wheres your team? |
| 21:08:17 | Doug_busy | where? |
| 21:08:27 | freelancer | captain tlz also wanted a match |
| 21:08:42 | captain_proton | freelancer: well, it needs to be today, whomever we play |
| 21:09:13 | dinah | anyone else notice that theres TLZ and a team calld the zee brothers |
| 21:09:21 | freelancer | ok i'm off to look for loops or tlz |
| 21:09:44 | freelancer | be back in a few |
| 21:18:08 | Widget_ | captain_proton: I'll play you myself! |
| 21:18:18 | Widget_ | captain_proton: How much of a handicap do you want? |
| 21:18:23 | captain_proton | Widget_: -10 |
| 21:18:44 | Doug_busy | is finding perfect cell |
| 21:19:42 | bugg | anyone else notice that bzflag can freeze (or certainly become nonresponsive for an unacceptable period of time) after doing Find Server? Perhaps it's blocking on the socket? |
| 21:20:10 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 21:20:20 | captain_proton | find server and initial connection to a server are both blocking |
| 21:21:23 | Doug_busy | um |
| 21:21:30 | Doug_busy | perfect cell is gone... |
| 21:21:35 | Doug_busy | poof |
| 21:21:41 | Doug_busy | hes not playing |
| 21:22:08 | dinah | is away: i have to go lay down |
| 21:22:25 | bugg | captain_proton: And that's seen as acceptable? |
| 21:24:31 | captain_proton | bugg: patches welcome ;) |
| 21:24:50 | bugg | captain_proton: You know, I might just take you up on that. |
| 21:25:39 | bugg | captain_proton: Give me an anoncvs CVSROOT and CVS module to checkout? (I'm too lazy to look this kind of stuff up) |
| 21:26:20 | patlabor221 | is there something like copy and paste under linux? |
| 21:26:24 | patlabor221 | between apps |
| 21:26:39 | captain_proton | select to copy, middle click to paste (don't deselect) |
| 21:27:00 | patlabor221 | I mean api wise |
| 21:27:05 | freelancer | hi captain,could not find tlz or loops |
| 21:27:14 | patlabor221 | I want to make it so you can pase a server into bz |
| 21:27:26 | patlabor221 | I know how to do it on windows |
| 21:27:46 | Doug_busy | oh |
| 21:27:51 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm eww |
| 21:27:58 | Doug_busy | ritchie_ had a program that could do it |
| 21:28:06 | patlabor221 | I think it would be a nice thing |
| 21:28:07 | captain_proton | there's a pseudo-standard for the clipboard |
| 21:28:08 | bugg | c'mon, give me a cvsroot |
| 21:28:09 | captain_proton | somewhere |
| 21:28:18 | Doug_busy | how do ya do it? |
| 21:28:22 | captain_proton | bugg: :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag |
| 21:28:26 | bugg | thanky |
| 21:28:29 | captain_proton | check out HEAD - thats the 1.8 code |
| 21:28:38 | freelancer | i have to do some work will be back at 22:00 to check if anyone is here cu later |
| 21:29:00 | Doug_busy | cya |
| 21:29:18 | bugg | sees some ogg vorbis files and mumbles a bit |
| 21:29:36 | captain_proton | i'll have that fixed up in a bit |
| 21:29:37 | Doug_busy | cool |
| 21:29:41 | Doug_busy | :) |
| 21:29:49 | bugg | does it build? |
| 21:29:51 | patlabor221 | is the plan to have the new sound stuff be format independet? |
| 21:29:54 | captain_proton | yes, it builds |
| 21:29:57 | bugg | good enough for me |
| 21:30:03 | captain_proton | patlabor221: explain |
| 21:30:21 | patlabor221 | it should be able to play sounds from ether wave or ogg |
| 21:30:30 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 21:30:32 | Doug_busy | too hard |
| 21:30:37 | patlabor221 | mixed and matched |
| 21:30:48 | Doug_busy | needs external decoder |
| 21:30:51 | Doug_busy | etc |
| 21:30:54 | Doug_busy | right? |
| 21:31:07 | patlabor221 | the lib should decode it |
| 21:31:17 | Doug_busy | has 40 megs left on his 40 gig drive |
| 21:31:23 | Doug_busy | ack |
| 21:31:26 | captain_proton | patlabor221: it can |
| 21:31:28 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 21:31:31 | captain_proton | patlabor221: first it looks for .wav, then .ogg |
| 21:31:33 | patlabor221 | you need to throw awway some poorn man |
| 21:31:36 | patlabor221 | ok good |
| 21:31:39 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 21:31:44 | Doug_busy | no pork |
| 21:31:46 | Doug_busy | er |
| 21:31:47 | Doug_busy | porn |
| 21:31:50 | patlabor221 | or back it up to a dvd |
| 21:31:54 | Doug_busy | dvd!!! |
| 21:31:56 | Doug_busy | ack |
| 21:32:06 | Doug_busy | no dvd drive |
| 21:32:08 | Doug_busy | :( |
| 21:32:08 | patlabor221 | 4.9 gigs per layer :) |
| 21:32:12 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 21:32:12 | patlabor221 | ohh I'm soory |
| 21:32:13 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 21:32:19 | Doug_busy | wiat!!! |
| 21:32:21 | Doug_busy | wait!! |
| 21:32:24 | Doug_busy | the G4 |
| 21:32:28 | Doug_busy | its has a super drive |
| 21:32:30 | captain_proton | argg patlabor221 buy me some toys |
| 21:32:35 | patlabor221 | buy? |
| 21:32:42 | Doug_busy | donate |
| 21:32:44 | patlabor221 | I don't understand the conecpt ? |
| 21:32:49 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 21:32:52 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 21:32:58 | Doug_busy | now to get dvd disks |
| 21:32:59 | patlabor221 | you want a dvd-ram? |
| 21:33:03 | Doug_busy | yea!! |
| 21:33:05 | bugg | remembers he doesn't know C++ |
| 21:33:08 | Doug_busy | pick me!!! |
| 21:33:08 | captain_proton | yes |
| 21:33:10 | bugg | but I'll fake it |
| 21:33:10 | patlabor221 | got a pile of em here |
| 21:33:11 | Doug_busy | me me!!! |
| 21:33:18 | Doug_busy | you do? |
| 21:33:20 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 21:33:23 | Doug_busy | oh well |
| 21:33:24 | patlabor221 | oh yeeah about 150 of em |
| 21:33:31 | Doug_busy | nobody can send me one |
| 21:33:32 | bugg | I don't know C++ but I can pretend (I know C and Java, C++ is somewhere in the middle) |
| 21:33:32 | Doug_busy | :( |
| 21:33:39 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 21:33:45 | Doug_busy | how much are ya selling them for? |
| 21:34:01 | patlabor221 | we put em on e-bay |
| 21:34:06 | Doug_busy | oh cool |
| 21:34:11 | Doug_busy | how muchg do they go for? |
| 21:34:20 | patlabor221 | around 50-60 us I think |
| 21:34:23 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 21:34:33 | Doug_busy | could you give a bzdiscount? |
| 21:34:36 | Doug_busy | ;) |
| 21:34:37 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 21:34:41 | Doug_busy | is off to ebay |
| 21:37:01 | bugg | captain_proton: Are you sure initial connection to server is blocking? |
| 21:37:23 | captain_proton | bugg: pretty sure |
| 21:37:43 | captain_proton | as in it stops rendering while its doing it |
| 21:38:27 | bugg | it seems to call createConnectingSocket for that, and isn't blocking... |
| 21:38:31 | dinah | returns from her cat nap |
| 21:38:34 | dinah | is back (gone 00:16:26) |
| 21:40:38 | captain_proton | ooh, now it just crashes |
| 21:40:57 | bugg | was that directed to me? |
| 21:41:02 | captain_proton | no |
| 21:43:45 | bugg | slaps cscope around a bit |
| 21:45:12 | bugg | throws cscope out the window |
| 21:45:16 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 21:45:32 | bugg | Ah, I really don't think cscope likes C++ |
| 21:45:39 | bugg | that appears to be the problem |
| 21:46:41 | bugg | this doesn't look like it should block either |
| 21:46:42 | bugg | cvs log time |
| 21:47:03 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 21:47:29 | bugg | what's this King of the Hill game style? |
| 21:49:06 | bugg | wait |
| 21:49:10 | bugg | gah |
| 21:49:33 | Widget_ | Is jh here? |
| 21:49:38 | Widget_ | captain_proton: We have two players present. |
| 21:50:05 | Widget_ | captain_proton: Can you play tomorrow? |
| 21:53:23 | bugg | wanders off |
| 21:53:46 | Doug_busy | slaps a bugg |
| 21:54:10 | Widget_ | Doug_busy: Bugg off. |
| 21:54:17 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 21:54:43 | Widget_ | Are you on a team? |
| 21:55:15 | captain_proton | Widget_: i leave tomorrow monring |
| 21:55:43 | Doug_busy | leave? |
| 21:55:58 | captain_proton | yes\ |
| 21:55:59 | Widget_ | For Japan. |
| 21:56:11 | Doug_busy | cool |
| 21:56:48 | dinah | captain_proton: buy a MD player while your there |
| 21:56:58 | captain_proton | dinah: minidisc sucks |
| 21:57:06 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 21:57:09 | captain_proton | but i may buy a cd player (they've got some really nice ones) |
| 21:57:12 | dinah | is going to pretend she dint hear that |
| 21:57:14 | iLLf8d | my client beeped I figured we had a game |
| 21:57:17 | iLLf8d | =( |
| 21:57:33 | Widget_ | captain_proton: Do you know how to order one in Japanese? |
| 21:57:40 | captain_proton | Widget_: nope |
| 21:57:57 | Widget_ | No, no! Not a toothbrush! A CD Player! A CD Player! Don't you speak English? |
| 21:58:20 | captain_proton | can point |
| 21:58:36 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:00:29 | dinah | strokes he netMD |
| 22:01:06 | dinah | dusts off her old sonyMD-r37 |
| 22:01:40 | Doug_busy | yuk |
| 22:01:40 | Widget | hihihi, freelancer. |
| 22:01:42 | Widget | OK. |
| 22:01:45 | Widget | Now we have the whole meq team. |
| 22:01:47 | freelancer | hi |
| 22:01:53 | patlabor221 | a mini disk player? |
| 22:01:54 | dinah | buts 5 plus hours of wumscut into her sony MXD-D40 |
| 22:02:08 | Widget | We have dinah and MortimeR from consumption.... and jh and I from bz.... |
| 22:02:11 | Widget | But no full teams. |
| 22:02:16 | Doug_busy | ugh |
| 22:02:21 | freelancer | all meq is here but noone wants to play |
| 22:02:30 | dinah | Condon: WAKE UP!! |
| 22:02:32 | Widget | What do you mean, no one wants to play? |
| 22:02:44 | Widget | There's not enough full teams here. |
| 22:02:47 | freelancer | play a match |
| 22:02:51 | Widget | yah. |
| 22:02:55 | Widget | Not enough full teams. |
| 22:02:57 | Widget | Er... |
| 22:03:00 | Widget | Not any full temas. |
| 22:03:01 | Widget | Teams. |
| 22:03:05 | freelancer | 'yes |
| 22:03:24 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 22:03:35 | freelancer | any loops here |
| 22:03:45 | Widget | No active loops. |
| 22:03:56 | Widget | Let's organise an ad hoc team to play meq. |
| 22:04:01 | Widget | It won't be official, of course. |
| 22:04:04 | Widget | But it will be fun. |
| 22:04:09 | iLLf8d | hey no hoc right now =) |
| 22:04:12 | iLLf8d | I gotta install debian |
| 22:04:19 | iLLf8d | amongst other things |
| 22:04:19 | freelancer | what do ya say captain proton |
| 22:04:20 | dinah | bollix to unofficial matches |
| 22:04:31 | Widget | So now even meq isn't complete? |
| 22:04:33 | Widget | iLLf8d: Do it later |
| 22:04:37 | iLLf8d | tho beep me as soon as theres a team here |
| 22:04:39 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 22:04:51 | Widget | OK. |
| 22:05:02 | Widget | Beep beep. Can anyone hear the beeps? |
| 22:05:03 | iLLf8d | hrms |
| 22:05:12 | iLLf8d | just privmessage me |
| 22:05:16 | freelancer | ok i'll be working outside ,i will check in from time to time |
| 22:05:17 | Widget | No! |
| 22:05:20 | Widget | Unofficial match! |
| 22:05:21 | Widget | Now! |
| 22:05:28 | iLLf8d | wonders if he'll be able to kill his debian install in the middle to play a match |
| 22:05:29 | captain_proton | freelancer: yeah, i can do that |
| 22:05:30 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 22:05:42 | captain_proton | is busy packing though, so can we wait 30 mins or so? |
| 22:05:47 | Widget | OK. |
| 22:05:48 | iLLf8d | lol |
| 22:05:51 | iLLf8d | see |
| 22:05:56 | freelancer | fine with me |
| 22:05:57 | iLLf8d | what'd I tellya widge |
| 22:06:02 | iLLf8d | packing heh |
| 22:06:06 | Widget | Don't rub it in, gah. |
| 22:06:09 | Widget | "I told you so" |
| 22:06:30 | Widget | wants an American keyboard. |
| 22:06:44 | Widget | With big shift and enter keys. |
| 22:06:52 | dinah | LOL |
| 22:06:55 | patlabor221 | arn't those cheap? |
| 22:06:55 | iLLf8d | the NZ kbds are different? |
| 22:07:03 | Doug_busy | where are you widget? |
| 22:07:09 | Widget | Doug_busy: NZ. |
| 22:07:09 | Doug_busy | in the world? |
| 22:07:11 | Doug_busy | oh |
| 22:07:12 | patlabor221 | I would die without my huge enter key |
| 22:07:13 | iLLf8d | widge is on mars |
| 22:07:13 | Widget | My keyboard is a UK keyboard. |
| 22:07:14 | Doug_busy | wow |
| 22:07:17 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:07:21 | dinah | strokes her UK board |
| 22:07:23 | Doug_busy | iLLf8d: so true |
| 22:07:26 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 22:07:28 | Widget | The left shift key is sort of small. |
| 22:07:31 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:07:33 | freelancer | must be in millimeters |
| 22:07:38 | Doug_busy | I want a german keyboard |
| 22:07:44 | iLLf8d | widge has key envy |
| 22:07:44 | Doug_busy | or a korean |
| 22:07:45 | Widget | And the enter key is large up and down, but now left to right. |
| 22:07:59 | patlabor221 | ewwww |
| 22:08:02 | Doug_busy | Widget: spare us will ya? my brain hurts |
| 22:08:11 | Widget | Next time I go to Taiwan, maybe I can get a Chinese keyboard. |
| 22:08:26 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:08:27 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:08:38 | iLLf8d | yeah have 6000 characters on it heh |
| 22:08:38 | Widget | Those are cool. |
| 22:08:41 | freelancer | i'll check irc in 30 min cu then,now back to work |
| 22:08:44 | iLLf8d | jk |
| 22:08:45 | Widget | They have a large section on the left for radicals. |
| 22:08:46 | Doug_busy | no |
| 22:08:54 | Doug_busy | 99000 |
| 22:08:56 | Doug_busy | ;) |
| 22:09:04 | Widget | And then you can select the corners on the right. |
| 22:09:09 | iLLf8d | that would be unwieldy especially on a laptop |
| 22:09:16 | iLLf8d | 6000 is all they ususally do |
| 22:09:22 | Widget | A good typist can get up to 150 - 200 characters per minute on those. |
| 22:09:22 | iLLf8d | sheesh typos |
| 22:09:25 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:09:28 | Doug_busy | ugh |
| 22:09:44 | Widget | iLLf8d: It's not bigger than a European/American keyboard. |
| 22:09:50 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 22:09:55 | iLLf8d | dude i'm joking =P |
| 22:10:06 | Doug_busy | korean is the perfect languege |
| 22:10:10 | iLLf8d | the footpedals are cool too |
| 22:10:25 | Widget | Doug_busy: It is not. |
| 22:10:30 | Widget | Doug_busy: Chinese is. |
| 22:10:34 | Doug_busy | no |
| 22:10:35 | Widget | Doug_busy: Hangul is pretty cool though. |
| 22:10:35 | Doug_busy | korean |
| 22:10:36 | iLLf8d | thats what bz needs awesome tank controls |
| 22:10:53 | Widget | Doug_busy: But the language is horrible compared to the simplicity of Chinese. |
| 22:11:12 | iLLf8d | joysticks for controlling tracks and some kinda footpedals one to jump the other to fire =) |
| 22:11:20 | iLLf8d | and a tanker helmet would help |
| 22:11:22 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 22:11:47 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 22:11:50 | iLLf8d | of course i'd have to simulate the tank sounds |
| 22:11:54 | iLLf8d | rmmmmmrmrmrmmmrmrmr |
| 22:11:57 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:12:08 | Doug_busy | Widget: koreans made the language to get ris of chinese |
| 22:12:14 | Doug_busy | ris/rid |
| 22:12:14 | iLLf8d | doesn't do diesel well |
| 22:12:18 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:12:28 | Doug_busy | burn vegifaul |
| 22:12:30 | Doug_busy | er |
| 22:12:50 | Widget | Doug_busy: Huh? Korean isn't related to Chinese. |
| 22:12:52 | Doug_busy | vegif ual |
| 22:12:56 | Widget | Doug_busy: It is to Japanese, though. |
| 22:13:44 | Doug_busy | Widget: ok, I heard from a guy whose wife is korean, that koreans made the languange to get rid of chinese |
| 22:13:56 | Doug_busy | cant spell |
| 22:14:14 | Doug_busy | Widget: and I am sticking with that story |
| 22:14:22 | Widget | Doug_busy: People don't make languages. |
| 22:14:29 | Doug_busy | bah |
| 22:14:31 | Doug_busy | they do to |
| 22:14:36 | Widget | Some do. |
| 22:14:38 | Doug_busy | like pig latin? |
| 22:14:44 | Widget | But Korean is a Ural-Altaic language. |
| 22:14:45 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 22:14:54 | Doug_busy | um |
| 22:14:55 | dinah | Widget: do so, some american indian created one |
| 22:15:00 | Doug_busy | whatever |
| 22:15:08 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 22:15:09 | Widget | Well.... this is true. Esperanto was also artificially created. |
| 22:15:13 | Widget | It's related not too differently from Japanese. |
| 22:15:14 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:15:35 | captain_proton | sighs plaintively |
| 22:15:40 | Widget | It's related to Mongolian as well, and perhaps distantly (this is a controversial point) to Finno-Ugric languages like Finnish or Hungarian. |
| 22:15:44 | Widget | Or Estonian and Karelian. |
| 22:15:45 | Widget | Etc. |
| 22:15:58 | Doug_busy | bah |
| 22:16:08 | Doug_busy | engilsh is not the best languange in the world |
| 22:16:13 | dinah | Widget; if i remember right it was because they dint have a written one, he made it in three years |
| 22:16:20 | Doug_busy | thats all I care about this subject |
| 22:16:27 | Doug_busy | yea |
| 22:16:32 | Widget | Oh, yes. |
| 22:16:36 | Doug_busy | his name eludes me for the moment |
| 22:16:38 | Widget | I know what your friend was talking about!!!!!! |
| 22:16:41 | Widget | King Sejong. |
| 22:16:46 | Doug_busy | NO!!!! |
| 22:16:48 | Widget | He created the Hangul _script_ for Korean. |
| 22:16:59 | Widget | Because before the Koreans used CHinese characters. |
| 22:17:00 | Doug_busy | sequoya |
| 22:17:03 | Widget | And illiteracy was high. |
| 22:17:07 | Doug_busy | his name is like that |
| 22:17:11 | Widget | Doug_busy: I'm talking about the Koreans. |
| 22:17:14 | Doug_busy | oh |
| 22:17:16 | Doug_busy | ok |
| 22:17:20 | Widget | Doug_busy: Sequoia was a native American. |
| 22:17:23 | Doug_busy | strange world we live in |
| 22:17:47 | Widget | In any case, Sejong invented the Hangul alphabet. |
| 22:17:49 | Widget | Which is really easy. |
| 22:17:57 | Widget | And now it's used almost everywhere in Korea. |
| 22:17:59 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:18:12 | dinah | thinks cockney slang counts as it's own language |
| 22:18:16 | Widget | It's the only thing used in N. Korea. In S. Korea, they sometimes use CHinese characters. |
| 22:18:29 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:18:29 | Widget | thinks American counts as its own language. |
| 22:18:34 | Doug_busy | and welsh |
| 22:18:42 | Widget | Yes, Welsh is its own language, idiot. |
| 22:18:49 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:18:51 | Widget | It's only distantly related to English in that it's Indo European. |
| 22:18:58 | Widget | It's as closely related to English as Hindi. |
| 22:19:02 | Doug_busy | is an idiot, acording to Widget |
| 22:19:14 | Doug_busy | hindi? |
| 22:19:17 | Widget | i.e., a totally different branch of the IE family. |
| 22:19:17 | Doug_busy | whocares |
| 22:19:26 | Doug_busy | bable fish rules |
| 22:19:36 | Widget | Babel Fish doesn't do Hindi. |
| 22:19:44 | Doug_busy | so? |
| 22:19:50 | Widget | And its Chinese translations suck. As do its French translations. |
| 22:19:51 | Doug_busy | who does hindi anyway? |
| 22:24:32 | dinah | notices an erie silence |
| 22:24:46 | Doug_busy | breaks the silence |
| 22:25:08 | dinah | thinks it a might odd no ones talking |
| 22:25:37 | Doug_busy | can talk the hind leg off a mule if the need arises |
| 22:30:23 | dinah | soooo quiet |
| 22:30:51 | Doug_busy | drip, drip, drip... |
| 22:31:19 | Widget | Ping.... |
| 22:31:37 | Doug_busy | Doing.... |
| 22:33:27 | captain_proton | arghl |
| 22:33:34 | Doug_busy | oops |
| 22:33:49 | Doug_busy | WOOSH!!! |
| 22:34:11 | dinah | captain_proton: why so glum |
| 22:34:41 | captain_proton | dinah: ogg doesn't -actually- work |
| 22:34:56 | dinah | it seems to work for mw |
| 22:35:00 | dinah | *me |
| 22:35:26 | captain_proton | dinah: its tricking you, like it tricked me |
| 22:35:32 | captain_proton | its falling back on the data files in /usr/share/bzflag |
| 22:35:49 | dinah | i have an ogg file im playing right now |
| 22:36:39 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 22:36:41 | Doug_busy | why? |
| 22:36:48 | Doug_busy | do you have it working in bzfag? |
| 22:36:53 | Doug_busy | er (hehe) |
| 22:36:55 | Doug_busy | bzflag |
| 22:39:52 | Doug_busy | doink |
| 22:40:03 | captain_proton | dinah: i mean ogg in bzflag |
| 22:40:22 | dinah | oh um, then i trust your judgement |
| 22:41:05 | captain_proton | BLARGH! |
| 22:41:11 | Doug_busy | wow |
| 22:41:16 | Doug_busy | neat word |
| 22:41:19 | captain_proton | gcc 3.1 could tell me where its throwing an uncought error, but gcc 3.1 can't compile bzflag |
| 22:41:20 | Widget | captain_proton: Does ogg in BZFlag really work? |
| 22:41:32 | Doug_busy | <writing ti down> |
| 22:41:32 | captain_proton | <captain_proton> dinah: ogg doesn't -actually- work |
| 22:41:34 | Widget | captain_proton: Catch 22. |
| 22:41:53 | dinah | ohhhh good book |
| 22:43:16 | Widget | dinah: It's an American book! |
| 22:43:28 | Doug_busy | gasps |
| 22:43:39 | dinah | anybook wiht a yosarian in it is fine by me |
| 22:43:42 | Widget | dinah: How dare you! You are a disgrace to the empire. You should be ashamed to call yourself a monarchist. |
| 22:44:03 | dinah | Widget: hold on tight, i like Kurt Vonnegut Jr. too |
| 22:44:22 | Widget | is deeply ashamed. |
| 22:44:35 | Widget | dinah: I think I might have to ignore you. |
| 22:44:37 | Widget | Maybe. |
| 22:44:56 | dinah | dont tellme you dont like slaughterhouse 5!!!!??? |
| 22:45:26 | Widget | has not read that. |
| 22:45:49 | dinah | has read every KV jr. book |
| 22:46:12 | dinah | its not so bad american schools banned them |
| 22:46:52 | Widget | OK. |
| 22:48:36 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i suck |
| 22:51:21 | Widget | OK. |
| 22:51:26 | Widget | So when is meq going to play? |
| 22:51:29 | Widget | captain_proton: Are you here? |
| 22:51:31 | dinah | freelancer: bit of the old in out eh? |
| 22:51:31 | Widget | freelancer: You here? |
| 22:51:34 | Widget | iLLf8d: You here? |
| 22:51:47 | freelancer | yes thats me like a duck |
| 22:52:26 | captain_proton | Widget: i am here |
| 22:52:32 | captain_proton | like a duck? |
| 22:52:32 | Widget | So. Two meqs here. |
| 22:52:43 | freelancer | 3 meqs |
| 22:53:06 | Widget | Where is iLLf8d, then? |
| 22:58:00 | iLLf8d | wassup? |
| 22:58:05 | freelancer | dam got my tank all ready for battle,just put chrome treads on it too |
| 22:58:18 | Widget | Femper si. |
| 22:58:18 | Widget | OK. |
| 22:58:21 | Widget | All meqs here. |
| 22:58:26 | iLLf8d | this a tourney match? |
| 22:58:28 | Widget | No. |
| 22:58:34 | Widget | I can't even find two other people to play now. |
| 22:58:35 | iLLf8d | then i'm not here =) |
| 22:58:36 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:58:37 | Widget | dinah: Are you here? |
| 22:58:40 | iLLf8d | sheesh |
| 22:58:45 | dinah | perhaps |
| 22:58:49 | iLLf8d | go get a team! |
| 22:59:05 | iLLf8d | win or lose I wanna play a tourney match! |
| 22:59:22 | iLLf8d | we've got a whole 1 game in |
| 22:59:23 | iLLf8d | that sucks |
| 22:59:26 | freelancer | yes me toooooo |
| 22:59:36 | iLLf8d | lets polish off like 2-3 matches today |
| 23:00:00 | freelancer | i'll be here all night if that is what it takes |
| 23:01:16 | Widget | Gah. It's nighttime in Europe. |
| 23:01:22 | Widget | The rest of my team are Europeans. |
| 23:01:25 | Widget | So we cannot play. |
| 23:01:52 | Widget | ooc Unless you wait until this evening., and some might sign in in the European morning. |
| 23:02:11 | freelancer | loops are us ,they are always around at this time |
| 23:02:25 | Widget | Why aren't they now? |
| 23:03:07 | freelancer | Don't know sent them Bzmail,got no reply |
| 23:03:42 | freelancer | brb |
| 23:04:29 | captain_proton | wails at BZFlag |
| 23:05:27 | Widget | OK. You can all three play me. |
| 23:05:39 | dinah | goes to cook some midnight bacon mmmm mmm good |
| 23:05:42 | freelancer | muwahahahaha |
| 23:06:15 | Widget | Noooooo. Ducati's empty. |
| 23:06:18 | Widget | Someone go there and play. |
| 23:09:02 | captain_proton | needs help |
| 23:10:00 | BZFlag | what already? |
| 23:10:32 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ogg doesn't actually work |
| 23:10:48 | captain_proton | and now that i did what should make it work, its throwing something somewhere that isn't caught |
| 23:11:43 | captain_proton | it tricked me |
| 23:13:34 | Widget | iLLf8d has succeeded in compiling BZFlag with gcc 3.1 with a few changes. |
| 23:13:36 | Widget | You can try that. |
| 23:13:46 | dinah_away | fills the flat with the smell of cooking bacon ;) |
| 23:14:00 | iLLf8d | supposedly theres a deb that works too |
| 23:14:02 | Widget | s/cooking/burning |
| 23:14:49 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: you have? |
| 23:14:52 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: 1.8? |
| 23:15:02 | iLLf8d | no haven't tried 1.8 yet |
| 23:15:05 | iLLf8d | it doesn't work asis |
| 23:15:06 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 23:15:09 | captain_proton | Widget: see |
| 23:15:09 | iLLf8d | but I'll check it out |
| 23:16:22 | Widget | Oh, you succeeded in compiling 1.7 only= |
| 23:16:23 | Widget | ? |
| 23:18:00 | iLLf8d | yeah it dumps 10 seconds into the build |
| 23:18:03 | iLLf8d | heh 1.8 that is |
| 23:18:52 | captain_proton | error? |
| 23:19:25 | iLLf8d | In file included from ../../include/ConfigFileManager.h:16, |
| 23:19:25 | iLLf8d | from ConfigFileManager.cxx:13: |
| 23:19:25 | iLLf8d | ../../include/XMLTree.h:27: looser throw specifier for `virtual XMLIOException::~XMLIOException()' |
| 23:19:25 | iLLf8d | /usr/include/g++-v31/stdexcept:118: overriding `virtual std::runtime_error::~runtime_error() throw ()' |
| 23:19:44 | iLLf8d | a bunch of warning before that tho |
| 23:21:02 | Chestal | the warnings relate to missing 'typename' I think |
| 23:21:28 | Chestal | uh, throw specs are evil |
| 23:22:15 | Widget | ??? |
| 23:22:46 | Chestal | they are just causing problems IMHO |
| 23:23:01 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: can you dcc me your stdexcept header? |
| 23:23:27 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 23:23:33 | iLLf8d | if I can figure out where it is |
| 23:23:34 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 23:23:46 | iLLf8d | /usr/include/g++-v31/stdexcept |
| 23:23:49 | iLLf8d | ok =) |
| 23:24:51 | iLLf8d | captain_proton: http://home.pacbell.net/l8tr/stdexcept |
| 23:24:56 | iLLf8d | my dcc is b0rked outgoing |
| 23:25:00 | iLLf8d | but I put it up there |
| 23:25:33 | dinah | growls at iLLf8d's use of an 0 in place of an o |
| 23:26:35 | freelancer | hi arathorn |
| 23:26:42 | arathorn | hi all |
| 23:26:53 | arathorn | heya freelancer |
| 23:27:23 | iLLf8d | heh dinah why do you care? |
| 23:27:28 | arathorn | freelancer:u dont play? |
| 23:27:28 | iLLf8d | cracks up |
| 23:27:31 | dinah | feels un luved as she dint get a personal hello but free did |
| 23:27:56 | freelancer | *while illf8d builds 1.7 freelancer builds a closet |
| 23:28:15 | iLLf8d | 1.8 =) |
| 23:30:42 | Chestal | well, I guess we need to add an empty destructor with throw() |
| 23:30:50 | captain_proton | Chestal: thats what i just did |
| 23:31:16 | captain_proton | waiting for the thumbs-up from iLLf8d |
| 23:31:24 | iLLf8d | wheres that other xml file go? |
| 23:31:26 | iLLf8d | the cxx? |
| 23:31:30 | iLLf8d | lemme grep my paths |
| 23:31:32 | Widget | public: |
| 23:31:32 | Widget | explicit overflow_error(const string& __arg); |
| 23:31:32 | Widget | }; |
| 23:31:33 | captain_proton | src/common |
| 23:31:38 | freelancer | heya arathorn ,i'm off to ducati if anyone wants me |
| 23:31:43 | Widget | Me too. |
| 23:32:56 | iLLf8d | uhm looks like it got past that part |
| 23:33:07 | captain_proton | woo |
| 23:33:09 | iLLf8d | crash and burn again heh |
| 23:33:15 | Chestal | oh |
| 23:33:19 | Chestal | my bad |
| 23:33:26 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: ? |
| 23:33:30 | Chestal | how can I revert a commit? |
| 23:33:37 | Chestal | I could just create a new version of course |
| 23:33:45 | Chestal | didn't intent to commit config-linux |
| 23:34:00 | iLLf8d | FileManager.cxx:129: invalid conversion from `int' to `std::_Ios_Openmode' |
| 23:34:01 | iLLf8d | FileManager.cxx:129: initializing argument 2 of `std::basic_ofstream<_CharT, _Traits>::bas ic_ofstream(const char*, std::_Ios_Openmode) [with _CharT = char, _Traits = std::char_traits <char>]' |
| 23:34:01 | iLLf8d | make[3]: *** [FileManager.o] Error 1 |
| 23:34:14 | iLLf8d | theres a bunch of int to std ones |
| 23:35:08 | captain_proton | Chestal: hmm - either ask tim or just cvs commit over it ;) |
| 23:35:24 | Chestal | btw., 3.1 says |
| 23:35:26 | Chestal | cc1plus: warning: changing search order for system directory "/usr/include" |
| 23:35:26 | Chestal | cc1plus: warning: as it has already been specified as a non-system directory |
| 23:35:28 | iLLf8d | this is where the warnings change |
| 23:35:30 | iLLf8d | ../../include/CallbackList.h:107: warning: `typename std::list<std::pair<F, void*>, std::all ocator<std::pair<F, void*> > >::iterator' is implicitly a typename |
| 23:35:30 | iLLf8d | ../../include/CallbackList.h:107: warning: implicit typename is deprecated, please see the d ocumentation for details |
| 23:35:30 | iLLf8d | FileManager.cxx: In member function `std::istream* FileManager::createDataInStream(const std ::string&, bool) const': |
| 23:35:30 | iLLf8d | FileManager.cxx:56: invalid conversion from `int' to `std::_Ios_Openmode' |
| 23:35:32 | iLLf8d | FileManager.cxx:56: initializing argument 2 of `std::basic_ifstream<_CharT, _Traits>::basi c_ifstream(const char*, std::_Ios_Openmode) [with _CharT = char, _Traits = std::char_traits< char>]' |
| 23:35:39 | Chestal | -i/usr/include shoud be removed I guess |
| 23:35:43 | iLLf8d | yeah I get those too |
| 23:36:08 | iLLf8d | those usually don't matter tho (or didin't cuase I get them in successful builds for 1.7 too) |
| 23:36:18 | iLLf8d | tho I dunno what i'm talking about here so take it for what you will |
| 23:36:44 | iLLf8d | the warning changing search order thingys |
| 23:37:01 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 23:37:07 | iLLf8d | lemme download and unpackage a deb |
| 23:37:12 | iLLf8d | or ask someone to do it for me |
| 23:37:20 | iLLf8d | actually that won't work |
| 23:37:26 | iLLf8d | they won't have a 1.8 |
| 23:37:57 | Chestal | well, 1.8 must be fixed to work with 3.1 anyway |
| 23:38:48 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: care sending me your fstream.h? |
| 23:38:57 | iLLf8d | sure |
| 23:39:05 | iLLf8d | that part of gcc too? |
| 23:39:31 | captain_proton | yep |
| 23:39:58 | iLLf8d | http://home.pacbell.net/l8tr/fstream.h |
| 23:40:37 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:40:39 | captain_proton | need 'fstream' |
| 23:42:05 | captain_proton | commits XMLTree |
| 23:42:18 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 23:43:48 | Widget | hihihi, freelancer. |
| 23:43:56 | freelancer | lol |
| 23:44:01 | Widget | What? |
| 23:44:12 | freelancer | was for fun |
| 23:44:46 | freelancer | hi sweetie |
| 23:45:04 | dinah | moi? |
| 23:45:10 | freelancer | yes |
| 23:45:17 | dinah | :) |
| 23:45:41 | Widget | si allontana da irc per andare a compiere un esorcismo, ma non preoccupatevi, torneṛ prima o poi ... |
| 23:45:50 | Doug_busy | I love jap transaltions: Welcome to our site. We renewal to new URL. Click on favorite item,then it will link to new URL. Otherwise after 30 seconds it jump to TOP page automatically. |
| 23:46:04 | Doug_busy | hehe |
| 23:46:10 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:46:17 | iLLf8d | hey at least they get that far |
| 23:46:21 | captain_proton | i can't see a way to make this work other than some really messy code |
| 23:46:26 | Widget | Sto guardando un film - se serve qualcosa, telefonatemi sul cellulare. |
| 23:46:26 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 23:46:36 | Doug_busy | Widget: translate? |
| 23:46:37 | iLLf8d | I dunno about you but I don't know a word of japanese |
| 23:46:49 | Doug_busy | iLLf8d: met too |
| 23:47:01 | Widget | Yah. I imagine English people's Japanese pages look even worse. |
| 23:47:04 | Doug_busy | ibot x sp en Sto guardando un film - se serve qualcosa, telefonatemi sul cellulare. |
| 23:47:05 | Chestal | proton: I do not quite understand the problem, looks a bit strange |
| 23:47:05 | | Doug_busy: Sto keeping a film - serve qualcosa, telefonatemi sul cellulare. |
| 23:47:07 | captain_proton | SGI iostreams use std::ios_base:openmode, older iostreams use int |
| 23:47:14 | Doug_busy | bah |
| 23:47:18 | Doug_busy | dumb ibot |
| 23:47:33 | Chestal | but std::ios::in should be of the correct type |
| 23:47:33 | iLLf8d | i'm usually quite impressed with the number of languages people know |
| 23:47:34 | Widget | ibot: x it en Sto guardando un film - se serve qualcosa, telefonatemi sul cellulare. |
| 23:47:35 | | Widget: I am watching a film - if it serves something, telefonatemi on the cellular one. |
| 23:47:41 | Doug_busy | ah |
| 23:47:41 | Chestal | oh |
| 23:47:43 | Doug_busy | its it |
| 23:47:46 | Doug_busy | not sp |
| 23:47:47 | Chestal | I see, the code is borken |
| 23:47:52 | Chestal | it's using 'int' explicitly |
| 23:47:58 | captain_proton | yep |
| 23:48:07 | captain_proton | which works for gcc 2 iostreams |
| 23:49:05 | captain_proton | i think the only way to solve this is some nasty ?:'s |
| 23:49:50 | Chestal | hmm, isn't there a standard name for the type of the flags? |
| 23:50:32 | captain_proton | in my headers its explicitly int |
| 23:50:54 | captain_proton | in iLLf8d's, its ios_base::openmode |
| 23:51:56 | Widget | is away: Lunch. |
| 23:52:04 | Chestal | you do not have ios_base::openmode? have you checked? |
| 23:52:11 | Doug_busy | lunch eh? |
| 23:52:13 | Doug_busy | sheesh |
| 23:52:18 | captain_proton | yep |
| 23:52:26 | captain_proton | no soup for me |
| 23:52:31 | Doug_busy | lol |
| 23:54:08 | Chestal | hmm |
| 23:54:18 | Chestal | I wonder if that means that g++-2.95 is broken |
| 23:54:52 | captain_proton | sorta |
| 23:55:03 | captain_proton | SGI redefined iostreams, and gcc 3.x adopted it |
| 23:55:15 | captain_proton | VC++ and gcc 2.x use the older standard |
| 23:55:24 | Doug_busy | ah |
| 23:56:07 | Chestal | well, we have a C++ standard, I wonder what it says about that |
| 23:56:31 | captain_proton | i think the latest C++ standard is the SGI stuff |
| 23:59:14 | Chestal | hmm, ios::openmode works, but I wonder if it should |
