| 00:07:11 | taD_gone | bah |
| 00:07:15 | | Get away from me you sick perv. |
| 00:07:15 | taD_gone | ibot monkey? |
| 00:07:41 | | ACTION passes out unconscious, needle in arm. |
| 00:07:41 | taD_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 00:07:52 | | ACTION looks for a new vein, and then shoots up |
| 00:07:52 | taD_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 00:07:58 | | taD_gone: sorry... |
| 00:07:58 | taD_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 00:08:04 | taD_gone | hehe |
| 00:08:07 | | thanks taD_gone :) |
| 00:08:07 | taD_gone | ibot botsnack |
| 00:08:10 | taD_gone | botsnack |
| 01:02:32 | firegod | any way to sort the server list by ping time? I have crap ping due to the fact i'm on dialup |
| 01:16:02 | jzaun | Any world creators in here? |
| 01:21:21 | MrApathyCream | wouldn't be that bold... buy yes |
| 01:22:37 | MrApathyCream | sss www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html for sample worlds |
| 01:29:22 | jzaun | MrApathyCream: checking them out.... I've been wondering if other world creators would be interested in a world packager... output would be similar to http://justin.jzaun.com/zion |
| 01:32:54 | MrApathyCream | nifty |
| 01:33:50 | MrApathyCream | what's the input? |
| 02:01:14 | jzaun | MrApathyCream: Sorry ran out for a min. Right now the input is all done by hand... thinking of wrighting an app to do it though... Its really the same file with the options changed and the uuencoded portion changed to the new map |
| 02:01:47 | jzaun | MrApathyCream: Not all that difficult to do, it has the benifit of allowing the author to set default server settings for his/her maps |
| 02:03:04 | M_A_C | yes... as long as the input is simple read - program, people will like it |
| 02:05:03 | jzaun | MrApathyCream: The only down side is that the scripts are *nux only, not sure though if there is a windows server though |
| 02:05:45 | jzaun | thought the pure world file can be gotten by ./<file name> extract |
| 02:07:03 | MrApathyCream | in case you don't know... 1.8 will change world format completely, and prolly add some of these kinds of things |
| 02:07:11 | MrApathyCream | nalthough hasn't been nailed down |
| 02:08:10 | jzaun | The script will work regardless the worldfile is just uuencoded within the script, but it would be pointless if it is duplicate information |
| 02:08:52 | jzaun | Is 1.8 in the workd, or just all talk right now? |
| 02:09:03 | jzaun | s/workd/works |
| 02:13:13 | MrApathyCream | all talk |
| 02:13:31 | jzaun | :-( |
| 02:13:42 | MrApathyCream | world file will be xml |
| 02:13:55 | jzaun | There are some nice things I would love to have that are planned for 1.8... mainly other world shape types |
| 02:14:10 | MrApathyCream | gotta go, bbl |
| 02:14:21 | jzaun | catcha later |
| 03:27:40 | ivan | anyone have a patch to highlight the guided missle flags? |
| 03:27:45 | ivan | just kidding ;) |
| 03:42:00 | jacques | ppl do |
| 03:42:11 | jacques | just nobody here will encourage cheating |
| 04:26:09 | MrApathyCream | if your admin, you can see what they all are |
| 04:34:36 | jacques | MrApathyCream: wow is that new? |
| 07:23:25 | goofey | is away: Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. |
| 13:43:16 | iLLf8d | normmmmmmmm |
| 13:43:20 | iLLf8d | I mean skipp |
| 13:43:22 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 13:46:34 | Skipp | he |
| 13:46:36 | Skipp | hhe |
| 13:46:38 | Skipp | heh |
| 13:46:45 | taD_gone | sheesh |
| 13:46:49 | Skipp | can't spell |
| 13:46:51 | taD_gone | nobody can speel today |
| 13:46:53 | taD_gone | :P |
| 13:47:04 | Skipp | i was sending quol a message |
| 13:47:22 | taD_gone | ah |
| 13:47:23 | taD_gone | I see |
| 13:47:28 | Skipp | any froot loops on |
| 13:47:36 | taD_gone | dunno |
| 13:47:39 | taD_gone | I am gone |
| 13:47:40 | taD_gone | :) |
| 13:47:48 | taD_gone | <<<< see? |
| 13:56:16 | Chestal | hi Skipp |
| 13:56:27 | Skipp | hey |
| 13:56:30 | Skipp | brb |
| 13:56:33 | Chestal | oru teams haven't had a match yet... |
| 13:56:33 | Skipp | talking to quol |
| 13:56:49 | Skipp | we are planing on playing froot loops on sunday |
| 13:57:09 | Chestal | ah, which time? |
| 13:57:25 | Skipp | 17:00 UTC - 20:00 utc |
| 13:57:58 | Skipp | chestal |
| 13:58:05 | Skipp | we could play you afterwords |
| 13:58:15 | Skipp | hey quol |
| 13:58:19 | Quol | hey Skipp |
| 13:58:28 | Skipp | it was hard trying to talk in three conversations |
| 13:58:33 | Quol | hello Chester .....ahh Chestal :) |
| 13:59:17 | Skipp | chestal? |
| 13:59:56 | Skipp | i will be on this on sunday from 17:00 UTC - 20:00 UTC |
| 14:00:24 | Skipp | quol? |
| 14:00:44 | Quol | ya - i'm here |
| 14:01:05 | Skipp | should i talk just to chestal |
| 14:01:11 | Skipp | since he isn't responding |
| 14:01:17 | Quol | that's probably good |
| 14:04:41 | Chestal | I will try to gather some Moles for Sunday, too |
| 14:04:44 | Chestal | could be hard though |
| 14:05:50 | Chestal | if I can get 3 Moles, we'll play against whoever is there :-) |
| 14:06:12 | Chestal | it's always good to gather 3 or 4 teams at a time, so each team can have several matches |
| 14:06:23 | Skipp | yeah |
| 14:06:44 | Skipp | the ults will be on from 18:00 utc to 20:00 utc |
| 14:06:53 | Chestal | fine |
| 14:07:22 | Quol | looking forward to sunday |
| 14:07:39 | Quol | should be really challenging :) |
| 14:07:44 | Skipp | yeah |
| 14:07:48 | Chestal | where do you want to play? ducati? |
| 14:07:55 | Skipp | don't care |
| 14:07:59 | Skipp | do u quol |
| 14:08:04 | Quol | not really |
| 14:08:10 | Quol | as long as lag is respectable |
| 14:08:33 | Chestal | hmm, you beat the Frogs 9 - 1 |
| 14:08:46 | Chestal | I remember that Skipp often lags |
| 14:08:58 | Skipp | will be on a better computer |
| 14:09:01 | Skipp | 56k |
| 14:09:08 | Skipp | with a pentium 4 |
| 14:09:10 | Quol | will you still be using a 56K connection skipp? |
| 14:09:31 | Skipp | right now where i am here i can only go 26K |
| 14:09:47 | Skipp | i can't get fast internet unless i pay a ton of monye |
| 14:09:51 | Skipp | money |
| 14:09:57 | Chestal | where are you? |
| 14:10:04 | Skipp | Colorado |
| 14:10:11 | Skipp | old phone lines |
| 14:10:18 | Skipp | out of reach of dsl |
| 14:10:30 | Quol | no cable internet either I gather? |
| 14:10:40 | Skipp | don't have cable |
| 14:10:49 | Skipp | i don't think so either |
| 14:10:57 | Skipp | only satillite |
| 14:11:06 | Skipp | and that is so expensive |
| 14:11:13 | Skipp | my parents won't pay for it |
| 14:11:24 | Skipp | $100 a month is too much for me |
| 14:11:33 | Skipp | i have to pay for gas now |
| 14:11:39 | Skipp | i need my money |
| 14:11:39 | Quol | and you usually have to use a modem anyways for satilite internet uploads... |
| 14:11:45 | Chestal | I guess satellite isn't good for bzflag anyway |
| 14:11:54 | Skipp | i am sort of stuck |
| 14:12:02 | Quol | I guess so... |
| 14:12:08 | Skipp | my dad can get cable but he has a stellite |
| 14:12:24 | Skipp | for tv |
| 14:12:47 | Quol | I can't wait until everyone has fiber going right up to your house, which you then can branch of using gigabit layer 2 switching to all your home PC's...... |
| 14:13:01 | Quol | my little dream :) |
| 14:13:08 | Skipp | is it true that e6 reduces lag |
| 14:13:23 | Skipp | i haven't noticed a difference |
| 14:13:41 | Quol | don't know |
| 14:13:50 | Chestal | Skipp: it depends on a number of factors |
| 14:13:56 | Skipp | maybe my dad |
| 14:14:14 | Skipp | maybe my dad's fast computer will make up some lag with mine at home |
| 14:14:28 | Chestal | Skipp: it can help peopel with low bandwidth if: 1) they have high framerates 2) everybdy else on server is using e6 |
| 14:14:52 | Skipp | ah:-O |
| 14:15:40 | Quol | Chestal - is there just more location checks that are being made and then broadcast to all the clients, or is it a smarter algorythm?? |
| 14:19:40 | Skipp | talking with tankenstein quol |
| 14:23:36 | Skipp_ | crazy |
| 16:17:37 | Chestal | Studentenpack |
| 16:17:39 | Chestal | oops |
| 17:45:53 | iLL_GAMING | yo free |
| 17:46:03 | iLL_GAMING | shit he gone |
| 17:46:04 | iLL_GAMING | bitch |
| 17:46:34 | iLL_GAMING | anyone alive in channel if you see freelancer tellem tank wants to do a few league games sunday |
| 17:46:49 | iLL_GAMING | tell him to try to get a hold of any of our other teamates |
| 17:47:28 | iLL_GAMING | and if anyone sees demonmoose or uhm subliminal tellem league games sunday woot! |
| 17:47:31 | iLL_GAMING | =) |
| 17:47:34 | iLL_GAMING | night all |
| 18:15:14 | [TeA|TrEE] | lalala |
| 18:15:19 | [TeA|TrEE] | someowne there |
| 18:15:40 | patlabor221 | noone but us chickens |
| 18:15:47 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 18:15:58 | [TeA|TrEE] | patlabor have you got diablo2 ? |
| 18:16:07 | patlabor221 | somewhere |
| 18:16:22 | patlabor221 | buried in a self at home |
| 18:16:23 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 18:16:40 | [TeA|TrEE] | i dont know why its not working porpaly |
| 18:16:52 | patlabor221 | what does it do? |
| 18:16:58 | [TeA|TrEE] | sometimes my mouse is real diffivult to handle |
| 18:17:05 | [TeA|TrEE] | them it stops for 5 secs |
| 18:17:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | then sundently |
| 18:17:14 | patlabor221 | hmmmm I dono |
| 18:17:30 | [TeA|TrEE] | the game gos on for 15 sec with a damn fast speed that you canat contal anymore |
| 18:17:42 | [TeA|TrEE] | then its very very slow again |
| 18:17:47 | patlabor221 | sounds like something else is is sucking up CPU and it's trying to catch up |
| 18:17:49 | [TeA|TrEE] | and so on and so on |
| 18:17:57 | patlabor221 | got anything else runnning in the background? |
| 18:18:05 | [TeA|TrEE] | winamp |
| 18:18:16 | [TeA|TrEE] | trillian ( ICQ ...... ) |
| 18:18:20 | [TeA|TrEE] | mIRC |
| 18:18:21 | patlabor221 | you could try stoping those |
| 18:18:39 | patlabor221 | sounds like somethings goin exclusive and taking all the time |
| 18:18:40 | [TeA|TrEE] | ill try |
| 18:18:42 | [TeA|TrEE] | brb |
| 19:33:16 | cal_the_invader | Anybody know if there is a binary of the new BZFlag for OS X flying around/ |
| 19:38:33 | taD_gone | yea |
| 19:38:35 | taD_gone | um |
| 19:38:41 | taD_gone | goto bzflag.org |
| 19:38:54 | taD_gone | and click on wiki |
| 19:39:07 | taD_gone | and then click on Mac OS X |
| 19:39:14 | jrm | found it |
| 19:39:15 | taD_gone | but I dont know if its the lastest |
| 19:39:17 | jrm | thanks |
| 19:39:18 | taD_gone | latest |
| 19:39:19 | taD_gone | :) |
| 19:41:31 | Chestal | heh, any team up for the Moles right now? |
| 19:42:47 | jrm | mac os x wiki page has no info |
| 19:42:55 | jrm | oh well, I'll wait it out |
| 19:43:11 | eddienull | what are you waiting for? |
| 19:43:32 | jrm | Mac OS X version of the new release |
| 19:44:14 | eddienull | it's out :) www.hzsystems.com/kevin/bzflag/ |
| 19:44:25 | eddienull | released it yesterday |
| 19:44:47 | jrm | ok, thanks |
| 19:48:15 | jrm | whoa, this version looks a lot better |
| 19:49:48 | jrm | Takes a little getting used to |
| 19:51:29 | jrm | Anybody know if there is multiple monitor support? |
| 20:04:01 | BZFlag | eddienull: uploaded to SF? |
| 20:05:53 | BZFlag | jrm: if you have somthing like xinerama then yes. |
| 20:06:07 | BZFlag | bzf does not open multiple glx contexts though. |
| 20:06:14 | BZFlag | could be added. |
| 20:06:25 | eddienull | tim, no, i forgot how. been to busy/lazy? to do it right now |
| 20:06:36 | BZFlag | I've played in -view three on a system with glx on 4 heads. |
| 20:07:05 | BZFlag | eddienull: mind if I copy it over then? were there any new patches this time or was it clean? |
| 20:07:27 | eddienull | perfectly clean :) |
| 20:08:00 | eddienull | does 1.8 still use that XMLTree file? |
| 20:08:44 | BZFlag | yes -( |
| 20:09:12 | eddienull | is that going to change? OS X just does not like that code at all |
| 20:12:58 | BZFlag | needs to be replaced, but nobody has started on it yet. |
| 20:13:39 | eddienull | what's the eta of 1.8? |
| 20:24:52 | BZFlag | eddienull: none yet. but I'm hoping for this year, earlier rather than later. |
| 20:25:20 | BZFlag | there is so much that needs to be done though in the network and otherwise. |
| 20:25:53 | Chestal | I think a realistic estimate would be early next year |
| 20:27:01 | BZFlag | I think a realistic estimate is 3 months after we estimate. |
| 20:27:50 | jpablo2 | tell that to the gnome people :-P |
| 20:28:19 | jpablo2 | gnome2 was supposed to be out almost a year ago :-P |
| 20:29:15 | Chestal | well, Linux 2.4 was one year late, too, wasn't it? and it still sucks... |
| 20:30:59 | Ginku | why does kernel 2.4 sucks ? |
| 20:31:25 | Ginku | ...and who is BZFlag... |
| 20:31:41 | jpablo2 | eeek. |
| 20:31:44 | jpablo2 | WTF. |
| 20:31:44 | Ginku | o.k it tim |
| 20:31:52 | jpablo2 | BUG! |
| 20:31:59 | Ginku | haeh ??? |
| 20:32:09 | jpablo2 | why there so many people on the GUGLMty team on the league page. |
| 20:32:21 | Ginku | why not |
| 20:32:29 | jpablo2 | it was a closed team. |
| 20:32:34 | Ginku | ah |
| 20:32:52 | Ginku | Chestal ? |
| 20:33:07 | jpablo2 | let's kick them. |
| 20:33:16 | Ginku | kick :_) |
| 20:33:45 | Chestal | jpablo; hmm, right now your team is not closed |
| 20:33:55 | Ginku | ah |
| 20:34:10 | jpablo2 | puff, i remeber i closed it. |
| 20:34:34 | Chestal | hmm, strange |
| 20:34:42 | Chestal | who are those peopel who joined your team? |
| 20:34:49 | jpablo2 | dunno. |
| 20:34:55 | Chestal | ick them, close it again and see if it happens again |
| 20:35:02 | Ginku | Chestal: taugt der 2.4er Kernel Deiner Meinung nach nichts ? |
| 20:35:17 | Chestal | Ginku: naja, es geht, vor allem die fruehen Versionen waren echt Muell |
| 20:35:27 | Chestal | GInku: ich verwende auch nen 2.4er-Kernel, aber Probleme hat der noch genug |
| 20:35:36 | Ginku | ....ich versteh ja nichts davon.................. |
| 20:35:54 | jpablo2 | well it's closed now. |
| 20:36:50 | Ginku | Hab uebrigens ein Debian Package gefunden (e6) |
| 20:36:54 | Chestal | yep, all teams with rankign are closed, except for ANnihilation and compsoc |
| 20:37:21 | Ginku | ...and frogs ? |
| 20:37:35 | jpablo2 | eek, brb. |
| 20:38:05 | Chestal | frogs are also closed |
| 20:38:17 | Ginku | WHAT ?? |
| 20:38:44 | Chestal | hmm, I am a little confused about the new bz team |
| 20:38:46 | | i think bzflag is TimRiker, CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 20:38:46 | BZFlag | ibot bzflag |
| 20:38:46 | Chestal | john=jh? |
| 20:38:57 | BZFlag | Ginku: ask ibot. |
| 20:39:12 | Ginku | Thx Tim ;_) |
| 20:39:52 | Ginku | Thank you for bzflag !! |
| 20:40:48 | Chestal | well, I'm off, cu |
| 20:40:52 | Ginku | Chestal: bye |
| 20:49:28 | jpablo2 | dum de dum. |
| 20:59:43 | jpablo2 | SATAN: what's up ? |
| 20:59:52 | SATAN | ?? |
| 21:00:25 | jpablo2 | que hay de nuevo ? |
| 21:00:40 | SATAN | ahhh, ahora tentiendo :-)) |
| 21:02:05 | jpablo2 | jeje. |
| 21:02:10 | SATAN | lo de la partida esta semana lo veo dificil, porque de miequipo la mayoria no pueden jugar |
| 21:02:20 | SATAN | habra que esperar a la semana que viene |
| 21:03:54 | jpablo2 | ok. |
| 21:04:04 | jpablo2 | pero entonces yo lo tendre dificil :-/. |
| 21:04:13 | jpablo2 | ya que me voy de vacaciones y tendria que jugar desde un modem. |
| 21:05:46 | jpablo2 | ademas de que perderiamos una de nuestras ventajas: como estamos en el mismo lugar nos podemos gritar entre todos que hacer. |
| 21:14:24 | jpablo2 | lalal. |
| 21:15:29 | Widget | hihihi |
| 21:15:40 | Widget | What do Mexican keyboards look lijke? |
| 21:15:55 | jpablo2 | humm, there's no suck a mexican keyboard. |
| 21:16:04 | jpablo2 | there's spanish keyboard and latinamerican keyboard. |
| 21:16:12 | jpablo2 | i have a la on. |
| 21:16:13 | Widget | Does it have the same layout as American keyboards? |
| 21:16:21 | jpablo2 | no. |
| 21:16:34 | jpablo2 | on the rigth of the L i have a Ñ. |
| 21:16:55 | jpablo2 | it's somewhat different. |
| 21:17:01 | jpablo2 | main keys remain the same. |
| 21:17:26 | Widget | Ah. |
| 21:17:36 | Widget | What is the symbol for peso? |
| 21:18:03 | jpablo2 | http://www.translation.net/keyshots.html#spanish |
| 21:18:13 | jpablo2 | the peso has no simbol :-P |
| 21:18:21 | jpablo2 | we generaly use $. |
| 21:18:21 | Widget | It's represented as P? |
| 21:18:23 | Widget | Oh. |
| 21:18:40 | Widget | To confuse foreign tourists? ;) |
| 21:18:44 | jpablo2 | that photo is a latinoamerican keyboard. |
| 21:18:48 | jpablo2 | Widget: ofcourse :-P |
| 21:18:57 | Widget | Is the Spanish keyboard also used in Mexico? |
| 21:19:30 | jpablo2 | that's not a spanish one, that's a latinoamerican one. |
| 21:19:33 | jpablo2 | the page is wrong :-P |
| 21:19:42 | jpablo2 | as a matter of fact that's the keyboard i'm using rigth now. |
| 21:19:58 | Widget | Oh. |
| 21:20:06 | Widget | But is the real Spanish keyboard used in Mexico? |
| 21:20:17 | jpablo2 | yeah. |
| 21:20:23 | jpablo2 | just like the us keyboard. |
| 21:20:42 | jpablo2 | every pc sellers does whatever he wants. |
| 21:20:50 | Widget | People use American keyboards in Mexico? |
| 21:20:55 | Widget | How do they type the accents? |
| 21:21:03 | Widget | Or Ñ? |
| 21:21:10 | jpablo2 | well they do use emacs accent mode :-P |
| 21:22:02 | jpablo2 | i think there's a way in X to type accents, i'm not really sure. |
| 21:22:20 | jpablo2 | someone people just configure it as a spanish keyboard, they know the layout. |
| 21:23:04 | Widget | Oh, yes. You can add it to your XF86Config, I think. |
| 21:25:18 | jpablo2 | lálálálálá. |
| 21:26:09 | jzaun | Anyone seen l8tr? |
| 21:26:16 | jpablo2 | nope. |
| 21:26:30 | jzaun | :-( |
| 22:00:44 | jpablo2 | damn i want a powerbook. |
| 22:00:57 | Widget | Why? |
| 22:01:17 | Widget | is stuck with an old iBook. |
| 22:01:22 | taD_gone | WOOHOO!!!! GET ONE!!!! |
| 22:01:33 | taD_gone | GET THE G4 powerbook |
| 22:01:34 | taD_gone | :P |
| 22:01:36 | taD_gone | ok |
| 22:01:41 | taD_gone | I am gone |
| 22:01:43 | Widget | That is expensive. |
| 22:01:44 | taD_gone | <<<<<<< see? |
| 22:01:47 | Widget | taD_gone: Nyah nyah. |
| 22:01:47 | patlabor221 | I got a powerbook 165 you can have :) |
| 22:01:52 | Widget | taD_gone: Windows user. |
| 22:01:53 | jpablo2 | Widget: cause it's cool ! |
| 22:01:58 | patlabor221 | 16 luchus shades of gray |
| 22:02:01 | Widget | jpablo2: Get an iBook! |
| 22:02:05 | taD_gone | wow |
| 22:02:09 | taD_gone | 16 greys |
| 22:02:10 | jpablo2 | nah it's not so powerfull. |
| 22:02:11 | taD_gone | ugh |
| 22:02:15 | Widget | jpablo2: So? |
| 22:02:20 | Widget | jpablo2: Well, the newer ones are. |
| 22:02:22 | Widget | I have an old one. |
| 22:02:26 | jpablo2 | i *NEED POWER* |
| 22:02:28 | patlabor221 | yeah man on a 10 inch screen, use it as a doorstop :) |
| 22:02:30 | Widget | A developmental version, that I got from Apple. |
| 22:02:39 | taD_gone | get the tibook |
| 22:02:41 | Widget | patlabor221: I use my old Mac Plus as my doorstop. |
| 22:02:42 | taD_gone | its good |
| 22:03:01 | patlabor221 | widgit: we have an SE-30 for big doors :) |
| 22:03:17 | Widget | patlabor221: Pah. Awae with yer newfangled computers. |
| 22:03:20 | jpablo2 | i know a friend with a tibook, but i didn't find a link to it on the apple site. |
| 22:03:26 | taD_gone | um |
| 22:03:28 | taD_gone | dunno |
| 22:03:29 | Widget | patlabor221: The computing world reached its pinnacle with the Mac Plus. |
| 22:03:56 | taD_gone | Widget: stop it with the microsoft stuff |
| 22:04:05 | patlabor221 | W: I love the fact that the pram batery is just a double a |
| 22:04:11 | Widget | taD_gone: What Microsoft stuff? |
| 22:04:20 | patlabor221 | he's talkin about macs man |
| 22:04:22 | Widget | patlabor221: Yes! You can zap the PRAM just by taking out the battery. |
| 22:04:30 | taD_gone | Widget: never mind..... |
| 22:04:33 | Widget | patlabor221: Stolen from Apple Computer. |
| 22:04:44 | Widget | taD_gone: May I remind you that *you're* the one using Windows. =P |
| 22:04:46 | taD_gone | I am gone with my PC playing FS98 |
| 22:04:52 | taD_gone | yea yea |
| 22:05:08 | taD_gone | I have a G4 933 MHz with 1 gig of ram behind me.... |
| 22:05:09 | patlabor221 | I wish I still had access to the G4 prootype sytem wiht DDR |
| 22:05:09 | taD_gone | :) |
| 22:05:11 | jpablo2 | can't find tibooks on applet page. |
| 22:05:16 | Widget | Haha. |
| 22:05:22 | taD_gone | woohoo |
| 22:05:30 | patlabor221 | but the police came and got it :( |
| 22:05:30 | Widget | has access to a PC at Apple that runs Mac OS X. |
| 22:05:51 | jpablo2 | PC = x86 ? |
| 22:05:54 | Widget | Ja. |
| 22:05:58 | taD_gone | yea |
| 22:05:59 | Widget | They have it running on a few machines at Apple. |
| 22:06:01 | taD_gone | darwin |
| 22:06:05 | taD_gone | right? |
| 22:06:06 | Widget | Not just Darwin. |
| 22:06:10 | taD_gone | oh? |
| 22:06:12 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 22:06:13 | Widget | Darwin x86 is released to the public. |
| 22:06:13 | taD_gone | oh well |
| 22:06:23 | taD_gone | I am logging this |
| 22:06:29 | taD_gone | so just keep talking |
| 22:06:29 | Widget | That's illegal. |
| 22:06:36 | patlabor221 | can't run ppc code can it? |
| 22:06:39 | Widget | Under the Bern conventions, you cannot log what I say without my consent. |
| 22:06:43 | Widget | patlabor221: It just requires a recompile. |
| 22:06:44 | jpablo2 | yeah, |
| 22:06:51 | jpablo2 | all what i type is copyrigthed. |
| 22:06:53 | Widget | All my words are copyright me. |
| 22:07:06 | Widget | taD_gone: Please delete all my lines from the log. |
| 22:07:35 | taD_gone | :P |
| 22:07:45 | jpablo2 | my words are under the TPL licence. |
| 22:07:53 | taD_gone | bah |
| 22:07:53 | jpablo2 | Taco Public Licence. |
| 22:07:57 | taD_gone | hehe |
| 22:08:11 | patlabor221 | mine use the Microsodt ula, if you violate it, they come and break your legs. |
| 22:08:13 | jpablo2 | you need to give me some TACOS NOW ! |
| 22:08:51 | patlabor221 | is there a plan at apple to release said x86 verson of osx? |
| 22:08:56 | Widget | Nope. |
| 22:09:02 | patlabor221 | party poopers |
| 22:09:08 | Widget | Haha. |
| 22:09:14 | patlabor221 | why make it then? |
| 22:09:22 | Widget | I'm not really sure. |
| 22:09:26 | Widget | I don't work on that. |
| 22:09:40 | Widget | I just have access to one of the computers that runs the x86 port. |
| 22:09:52 | jpablo2 | patlabor221: maybe cause it was easy afther the darwin port? |
| 22:10:11 | patlabor221 | yeah but if they arn't gonan use it, it was just wase of money to even do it |
| 22:10:11 | jpablo2 | Widget: stole it ! |
| 22:10:27 | jpablo2 | well sometimes people do things for fun you know |
| 22:10:31 | patlabor221 | that is true |
| 22:10:44 | Widget | Usually Linux hackers. |
| 22:10:47 | patlabor221 | loke the time I made out CAD/CAM software read marathon levels |
| 22:11:08 | patlabor221 | loke = like, out = our |
| 22:11:17 | Widget | You fools! You should use the Dvorak kayboard layout! |
| 22:11:42 | jpablo2 | dvorak sucks :-P |
| 22:11:47 | jpablo2 | i tried it sometime. |
| 22:11:49 | Widget | Dvorak is wonderful. |
| 22:11:52 | taD_gone | hmm? |
| 22:11:56 | Widget | It may not be wonderful if you type Spanish, though. |
| 22:12:17 | jpablo2 | it's had to me to switch layout afther ten years of qwerty. |
| 22:13:04 | Widget | Well, for me it was easy to switch. |
| 22:14:48 | Widget | jpablo2: You like OS X? Wonderful! |
| 22:15:02 | jpablo2 | I DON'T LIKE OS X ! |
| 22:15:05 | jpablo2 | when i say that ? |
| 22:15:18 | Widget | Oh, you're going to run Linux on your Powerbook? |
| 22:15:22 | Widget | That takes all the fun out of it. |
| 22:15:23 | jpablo2 | ofcourse. |
| 22:15:47 | Widget | You won't be able to run a lot of software. (at least, without recompiling) |
| 22:16:11 | Widget | All the progress in the Linux world takes place on x86. |
| 22:16:25 | jpablo2 | i will run debian. |
| 22:16:29 | Widget | So? |
| 22:16:32 | jpablo2 | it works pretty well. |
| 22:16:51 | jpablo2 | i know a friend who have a tibook, it run wonderful. |
| 22:16:59 | jpablo2 | faster than in a x86. |
| 22:17:08 | Widget | You'll have to compile all your programs, or wait until a PPC version comes out. |
| 22:17:23 | jpablo2 | nah, i won't compile anything i will use debian :-P |
| 22:17:35 | Widget | Then you'll have to wait for PPC versions of all the programs. |
| 22:17:50 | jpablo2 | most programs work everywhere. |
| 22:18:00 | Widget | No, they don't. |
| 22:18:06 | Widget | An x86 binary doesn't work on PPC. |
| 22:18:12 | jpablo2 | i know. |
| 22:18:20 | jpablo2 | but most code compile on x86. |
| 22:18:32 | jpablo2 | and debian have already everything compiled. |
| 22:18:47 | Widget | But Debian releases binaries on x86 before they do for PPC. |
| 22:18:58 | jpablo2 | no, it's a automatic thing. |
| 22:19:02 | Widget | Just check a Debian PPC server as opposed to an x86 server. |
| 22:19:05 | jpablo2 | debian mantainer generalty upload the sourcel |
| 22:19:12 | jpablo2 | and they have compile farms. |
| 22:19:30 | Widget | In any case, OS X is better than Linux anyway. =P |
| 22:19:37 | jpablo2 | generalty it gets compiled for x86 fasther cause there's more server. |
| 22:19:50 | jpablo2 | but pcc is just one day or so behind. |
| 22:20:28 | Widget | Foolish Linux user. =P |
| 22:20:54 | jpablo2 | Widget: i know a compule of people who run linux as his main OS in pcc machines. |
| 22:21:02 | jpablo2 | imac & tibook. |
| 22:21:10 | Widget | jpablo2: OK. But Linux is still icky. |
| 22:21:15 | jpablo2 | i feel in love with the tibook. |
| 22:21:20 | jpablo2 | so i want a powerbook :-D |
| 22:21:30 | Widget | And you're going to ruin it with Linux. |
| 22:21:36 | Widget | Linux is nothing compared to OS X. |
| 22:21:42 | jpablo2 | HAHAHA. |
| 22:22:10 | Widget | You must admit it! |
| 22:22:45 | Widget | Trying desperately to think of a retort, are you? |
| 22:22:58 | Widget | It's hopeless! Face it! Linux is bad! |
| 22:23:01 | jpablo2 | nah, mac os x sucks. |
| 22:23:10 | jpablo2 | it's a good thing to see a copule of minutes. |
| 22:23:10 | Widget | Oh? Why? |
| 22:23:14 | jpablo2 | but that's it. |
| 22:23:19 | Widget | Why does it suck? |
| 22:24:04 | jpablo2 | cause you can't do anything with it. |
| 22:24:14 | jpablo2 | cause i don't have the source to do anything. |
| 22:24:17 | Widget | What can you do with Linux that you can't with OS X? |
| 22:24:38 | jpablo2 | let me see... |
| 22:25:04 | jpablo2 | can i run windows game s? |
| 22:25:11 | Widget | Sure. |
| 22:25:15 | Widget | Virtual PC comes free. |
| 22:25:17 | jpablo2 | ok. |
| 22:25:25 | Widget | And a lot of games don't even need to be run under emulation. |
| 22:25:29 | jpablo2 | how many different desktops can i run ? |
| 22:25:30 | Widget | Most of the games I run have OS X versions. |
| 22:25:47 | jpablo2 | can i run it with out the graphical interfaze ? |
| 22:25:48 | Widget | Different desktops? Out of the box, none. 8 if you know what you're doing. :) |
| 22:25:52 | Widget | Yes, you can. |
| 22:25:57 | Widget | Just select Console mode. |
| 22:26:09 | jpablo2 | bah 8 ? |
| 22:26:17 | Widget | Well... I have 8. |
| 22:26:17 | jpablo2 | i can run a lot more on linux. |
| 22:26:24 | Widget | I don't need more than 8. |
| 22:26:27 | Widget | I don't even need 8. |
| 22:26:37 | jpablo2 | can i run remote apps ? |
| 22:26:47 | Widget | What do you mean by that? |
| 22:27:05 | jpablo2 | run a app on other machine and see the display of that app on my local desktop. |
| 22:27:58 | Widget | Sure. |
| 22:28:05 | Widget | If it's running X.... then it's easy. |
| 22:28:06 | jpablo2 | can i run macos in x86, pcc, spac, ia64, arm (my ipaq), etc ? |
| 22:28:13 | Widget | No. You can only run it on PPX. |
| 22:28:14 | Widget | PPC. |
| 22:28:25 | Widget | And I see no reason why you should want to run it on another architecture. |
| 22:28:30 | Widget | And... I have to go now. |
| 22:28:33 | Widget | Football!!! |
| 22:28:38 | jpablo2 | cause i want to run it on my ipaq. |
| 22:28:44 | jpablo2 | and use the same software. |
| 22:28:46 | jpablo2 | everywhere. |
| 22:29:41 | jpablo2 | nah mac os x is not foir |
| 22:29:44 | jpablo2 | nah mac os x is not for me. |
| 22:30:15 | jpablo2 | as i look it i don't see diference between mac os and windows. |
| 22:30:21 | Widget | Oh no? |
| 22:30:27 | Widget | Can you go open a terminal in Windows? |
| 22:30:54 | Widget | Can you compile Gaim on Windows? |
| 22:31:32 | jpablo2 | yeah i can open a msdos terminal :-P |
| 22:31:38 | Widget | MSDOS? |
| 22:31:40 | Widget | That's horrible. |
| 22:31:56 | Widget | I can use gas, zsh, bash, etc. on MacOS. |
| 22:32:01 | Widget | I can even compile KDE, if I wanted to. |
| 22:32:03 | Widget | I can run X. |
| 22:32:05 | jpablo2 | also you can in windows. |
| 22:32:18 | jpablo2 | but that doesn't make windows better. |
| 22:32:23 | Widget | With Cygwin, bah. You can't compile stuff like Gaim on it. |
| 22:32:50 | Widget | As I look at Linux, I see no difference between it and Windows. |
| 22:33:04 | jpablo2 | oh, cause you are blind ! |
| 22:33:43 | jpablo2 | first of all you have the code. |
| 22:33:58 | Widget | I have to code to Darwin./ |
| 22:34:07 | Widget | Not that I need it much. |
| 22:34:09 | jpablo2 | and the mac os code ? |
| 22:34:10 | Widget | GTG. |
| 22:34:12 | Widget | Continue this later. |
| 22:34:19 | Widget | I have the Mac OS code, even though most people don't. |
| 22:34:38 | jpablo2 | well, i don't have it. |
| 22:34:51 | jpablo2 | i do have the GNOME code, i do have the KDE code, i do have the X code. |
| 22:34:57 | Widget | Most people don't want it. |
| 22:35:05 | jpablo2 | I want it. |
| 22:37:31 | jpablo2 | well, the conclusion is: Mac OS X; where X=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 sucks :-P |
| 23:55:26 | jpablo2 | hey akira_ |
| 23:55:44 | akira_ | moinsen jpablo2 |
| 23:59:08 | jpablo2 | didn't you wanted spriggan ? |
| 23:59:40 | akira_ | what ? |
| 23:59:52 | jpablo2 | otomo's movie. |