| 00:05:19 | Widget | is away: Homework. |
| 00:16:19 | pnm | is away: sleep |
| 00:37:57 | Widget | hihihi |
| 00:38:04 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 00:38:05 | bzbot | Red: 4 players, score: 1 | Green: 4 players, score: -3 | |
| 00:41:04 | dinah | Widget: hihihi? |
| 00:42:05 | Widget | hihihi |
| 00:42:15 | Widget | dinah: I'm applying to the London School of Economics. |
| 00:42:28 | dinah | Widget: wonderfull |
| 00:43:07 | dinah | will i see you around? |
| 00:43:31 | Widget | dinah: If I get in, yes. It's my top choice, |
| 00:43:41 | Widget | is back (gone 00:38:22) |
| 00:44:05 | dinah | Widget: im sure they'll accept you |
| 00:45:00 | Widget | dinah: How do you know? ;) |
| 00:45:13 | dinah | Widget: you seam like a smart child |
| 00:45:16 | Widget | dinah: Have you been buying out the admissions department? |
| 00:50:21 | Guardian | What is the command to exit vi? |
| 00:50:54 | Widget | :q |
| 00:51:02 | Widget | :wq to save changes |
| 00:51:07 | Widget | And :q! to discard changes. |
| 00:51:15 | Widget | And :q if you haven't made any changed. |
| 00:51:20 | Guardian | ah |
| 00:51:22 | Guardian | Thanks |
| 01:02:01 | Condon | knock! knock! |
| 01:02:17 | Widget | Who's there? |
| 01:02:20 | dinah | hello condon |
| 01:02:25 | Condon | Hi |
| 01:02:45 | Condon | Hey, just wanted to say that on Ducati I have lag < 50ms |
| 01:03:03 | Condon | with meq I had 1500... |
| 01:03:29 | Condon | nevermind |
| 01:03:37 | Condon | CU tommorow |
| 01:04:09 | dinah | alright |
| 01:26:54 | Guardian | Okay, widget |
| 01:27:11 | Widget | Guardian: Hi. |
| 01:27:12 | tad | ?? |
| 01:27:15 | tad | hey |
| 01:27:33 | tad | I predict brazil will win world cup |
| 01:27:36 | tad | :P |
| 01:27:49 | tad | because a computer said so... |
| 01:30:41 | tad | :) |
| 01:31:19 | dinah | alo tad |
| 01:31:39 | tad | hello |
| 01:33:26 | tad | brb |
| 01:34:31 | MeanGene | Hey, what's going on with the bzflag server-list server? |
| 01:34:41 | dinah | i dont know, mine busted |
| 01:34:54 | MeanGene | Any good game going on right now? |
| 01:35:14 | dinah | http://bzflag.detranquis.com/wbzfquery.html |
| 01:35:18 | MeanGene | chardonnay is empty... |
| 01:35:26 | dinah | thats what you need to check |
| 01:35:42 | MeanGene | thanks for the url! |
| 01:35:55 | dinah | your welcome luv |
| 01:54:45 | tad | boo! |
| 01:54:53 | captain_proton | erk where is riker? |
| 01:54:53 | tad | the list server is not working? |
| 01:55:05 | | bzflag was last seen on #bzflag 4 hours, 33 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: heh. [Mon Jun 3 22:21:31 2002] |
| 01:55:05 | tad | ibot seen bzflag |
| 01:55:15 | | tad: i'm not following you... |
| 01:55:15 | tad | ibot your a great help |
| 01:55:21 | tad | brb |
| 01:55:22 | dinah | cap! i got the comands for roaming! :) |
| 02:00:40 | tad | ? |
| 02:00:44 | tad | roaming? |
| 02:00:57 | tad | thats the thing on ducati? |
| 02:00:58 | dinah | for observers |
| 02:01:01 | tad | yea |
| 02:01:05 | tad | and? |
| 02:01:07 | tad | what command? |
| 02:01:27 | tad | F8, F7.... |
| 02:01:34 | tad | ^??^ |
| 02:01:38 | dinah | flying, tilt, strafe, stuff likt that |
| 02:01:42 | tad | really? |
| 02:01:44 | tad | HOW> |
| 02:01:47 | tad | how? |
| 02:01:47 | captain_proton | tad: those, and the arrow key clusters |
| 02:01:55 | tad | yea |
| 02:02:09 | tad | I know those, but how do ya fly and tilk? |
| 02:02:30 | tad | tilt* |
| 02:02:43 | captain_proton | tad: arrow keys |
| 02:02:46 | captain_proton | shift+arrow keys |
| 02:02:48 | captain_proton | alt+arrow keys |
| 02:02:50 | tad | oh.... |
| 02:02:53 | tad | hmm |
| 02:02:57 | dinah | with ctrl to fly |
| 02:03:00 | tad | we really do need doc. |
| 02:03:03 | tad | s |
| 02:03:05 | captain_proton | ctrl doesn't do anything |
| 02:03:06 | tad | hehe |
| 02:03:10 | tad | ok |
| 02:03:16 | tad | let me go try it out |
| 02:03:31 | dinah | well maybe its alt, but one of them moves you up and down with the arrows |
| 02:03:40 | captain_proton | alt moves up and down |
| 02:03:46 | captain_proton | shift moves in the horizontal plane |
| 02:03:56 | captain_proton | straight arrow keys tilt/rotate |
| 02:04:20 | tad | now thats cool |
| 02:04:24 | tad | alt |
| 02:04:30 | tad | cool |
| 02:08:22 | captain_proton | dinah: you know about the tracking modes? |
| 02:08:37 | dinah | pardon? |
| 02:08:51 | captain_proton | you can track tanks or flags |
| 02:08:55 | dinah | how? |
| 02:09:06 | captain_proton | F8 cycles modes, F6 and F7 cycle the target, F9 and F10 zoom |
| 02:09:25 | tad | l8r guys |
| 02:09:29 | tad | and gals |
| 02:09:34 | tad | grins |
| 02:09:36 | dinah | bye, cool |
| 02:44:26 | Widget | captain_proton: How do you do roaming as an observer in e5? |
| 02:56:32 | captain_proton | Widget: read all the stuff above |
| 02:56:48 | Widget | Oh. |
| 02:57:18 | Widget | Does it only work on e5 servers? |
| 02:58:24 | captain_proton | recent e5 servers are the only ones that support observers |
| 02:59:09 | captain_proton | roaming is a client-side thing, not server-side |
| 02:59:22 | captain_proton | observers are both client-side and server-side |
| 02:59:31 | Widget | It doesn't work on ducati. |
| 02:59:46 | captain_proton | Widget: uhh |
| 03:00:04 | captain_proton | Widget: roaming -requires- a very recent e5 client |
| 03:00:10 | Widget | I have CVS. |
| 03:00:12 | captain_proton | Widget: it IS the observer mode |
| 03:00:14 | Widget | Updated 10 minutes ago. |
| 03:00:22 | captain_proton | there's no driving around at all |
| 03:00:28 | Widget | Hm. |
| 03:00:30 | Widget | Weird. |
| 03:07:26 | Guardian | Um, am I the only one that can't get a server list? |
| 03:07:28 | Widget | Wow.... very cool. |
| 03:07:32 | Widget | Very cool indeed. |
| 03:07:42 | Widget | Guardian: I can get it. |
| 03:07:56 | Guardian | hmmm, wonder what happened to my bzflag |
| 03:13:10 | Guardian | Widget, you were correct Apache is not installed, as soon as we get a snafu with samba worked out, we will get right on that |
| 03:14:59 | Widget | captain_proton: I know what you can add next to 1.8! |
| 03:15:08 | Widget | captain_proton: You can add emotes, that start with /me. |
| 03:15:12 | Widget | wishes for emotes! |
| 03:15:35 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:16:39 | captain_proton | i'm looking for something that will take longer than 5 minutes |
| 03:17:17 | Widget | After that, you can add support to connect to AIM, Jabber, MSN, ICQ and IRC. |
| 03:17:29 | Widget | And add all the features for those, like file transfer and image transfer. |
| 03:17:39 | Widget | And then add a web browser and an email client.... and a newsreader. |
| 03:17:45 | Widget | And you'll end up with..... Emacs. |
| 03:17:51 | captain_proton | i can't add a newsreader yet |
| 03:17:59 | captain_proton | because if that happens, development will be done |
| 03:18:05 | captain_proton | all programs expand until they can read news |
| 03:18:10 | captain_proton | once they do that, you're done |
| 03:18:26 | Widget | Nope. Emacs has continued far past that point. |
| 03:18:36 | Guardian | What about ramps? Could you add ramps? |
| 03:18:39 | Widget | Hm. |
| 03:18:46 | Widget | Hm. |
| 03:19:05 | Widget | Guardian: Won't ramps require momentum? |
| 03:19:31 | Widget | Guardian: If the tank has no mass (like it does now) then ramps won't affect anything. |
| 03:19:47 | Guardian | Well then, what about mass? |
| 03:20:04 | Guardian | Ramps will be usegul in maps with jumping off |
| 03:20:08 | Guardian | useful* |
| 03:20:24 | Guardian | I think that tanks should run into each other. |
| 03:20:29 | Guardian | not through each other |
| 03:20:40 | Widget | Guardian: That destroys a major part of my strategy. |
| 03:21:04 | Guardian | cries for Widgets strategy..... |
| 03:21:11 | Guardian | That isn't the point. |
| 03:21:32 | Widget | I firmly support the status quo. |
| 03:21:37 | Guardian | The question is, where is the game going, is it going towards realism? Playablity? Tricks? |
| 03:21:59 | Widget | Not towards realism, IMHO. |
| 03:22:04 | Widget | Towards gameplay. |
| 03:22:16 | Guardian | Alright, define gameplay. |
| 03:22:49 | Widget | It should be as fun as possible. |
| 03:22:58 | Widget | Most people I've talked to say they don't want any change.... it's fun as it is. |
| 03:23:08 | Widget | With no fundamental changed to the game's rules. |
| 03:23:45 | captain_proton | Widget: no change |
| 03:23:46 | captain_proton | bah |
| 03:23:57 | Widget | captain_proton: What do you mean, no change? |
| 03:24:03 | Guardian | But some people think it is most fun when they are cheating. |
| 03:24:14 | captain_proton | Widget: there have been inf+1 requests for complex terrain, and twice that many for new flags/game modes |
| 03:24:17 | Guardian | I think it is most fun when it is most realistic |
| 03:24:22 | Widget | Guardian: But not most. Cater to hte majority. |
| 03:24:27 | Widget | captain_proton: Precisely. I hate new terrain. |
| 03:24:32 | Guardian | Of course not |
| 03:24:34 | Widget | captain_proton: It will wreck my strategy. |
| 03:24:38 | Widget | captain_proton: And now convince Guardian. |
| 03:24:43 | Guardian | You will learn new strategy |
| 03:24:48 | Widget | Nah. |
| 03:24:51 | captain_proton | Widget: i'm one of the proponents of completely custom worlds |
| 03:24:52 | Widget | I don't want to. |
| 03:25:16 | captain_proton | including complex objects |
| 03:25:23 | Guardian | Then you can stick with version 1.7 |
| 03:25:41 | Guardian | But I want complex worlds, too. |
| 03:25:45 | Widget | I like 1.8, so long as it has no change to the gameplay. |
| 03:25:58 | Widget | Only stuff like roaming, true observers, team support and the cool translucent radar. |
| 03:26:03 | Widget | I like that,. |
| 03:26:26 | Guardian | What about trees? |
| 03:26:49 | Widget | I'm fine with those, since I don't play on jumping servers anyway. |
| 03:26:57 | Guardian | What about changing the colors a bit? |
| 03:27:17 | Widget | Making them brighter would help. |
| 03:27:20 | captain_proton | Widget: you can feel free to create worlds for 1.8 that look like 1.7 |
| 03:27:32 | Widget | captain_proton: I will, too! |
| 03:27:42 | Guardian | I think the adjustible daylight is a good start |
| 03:27:44 | captain_proton | but i have a strong feeling you'll be the only player ;) |
| 03:27:53 | Widget | captain_proton: We'll see. :) |
| 03:27:54 | Guardian | What about weather? |
| 03:28:14 | captain_proton | Guardian: i'm passively working on adding rain |
| 03:28:20 | Guardian | Nifty |
| 03:28:40 | Widget | Will rain affect the gameplay? |
| 03:28:43 | Widget | Or is it purely visual? |
| 03:28:46 | Guardian | What if the ground friction could change, so you can have sandtraps and ice slicks |
| 03:28:54 | Guardian | It could be either |
| 03:29:16 | captain_proton | Widget: initially it'd be visual, but i suppose it could be made physical too |
| 03:29:35 | captain_proton | Guardian: being considered - it depends how powerful the new physics stuff ends up |
| 03:29:44 | Widget | plays at low quality graphics, no blending, no smoothing. It makes my computer run too slow. |
| 03:29:46 | Widget | Accursed iBook. |
| 03:30:12 | Guardian | You know what game you would love Widget? |
| 03:30:15 | Guardian | Stellar 7 |
| 03:30:58 | Widget | Guardian: Was ist? |
| 03:31:05 | Widget | Is there an OS X version? |
| 03:32:08 | Guardian | http://screenmania.retrogames.com/c64/03/c64_0072.html |
| 03:32:27 | captain_proton | Widget: i think what you need to realize is that bzflag has been much the same for 5 years |
| 03:32:33 | Widget | captain_proton: Wonderful. |
| 03:32:43 | captain_proton | and many people are tired of the same old stuff, and those who aren't are new to the game (as you are) |
| 03:33:22 | Widget | Wing likes the game as it is, and he's been playing for almost two years now. |
| 03:33:57 | captain_proton | then he's a very unusual case |
| 03:34:40 | captain_proton | ducati-style servers will still be around, i'm sure |
| 03:34:49 | captain_proton | but chances are they'll look a hell of a lot nicer |
| 03:35:04 | Widget | Wonderful. |
| 03:35:11 | Widget | I have no objection to aesthetic improvements. |
| 03:35:17 | Guardian | The thing about BZFlag is that it is really just 2d. |
| 03:35:19 | Widget | I just hate jumping and I like CTF. |
| 03:35:26 | captain_proton | however, i'm not sure about tank driving through each other |
| 03:36:01 | Guardian | There are multiple planes of combat, but they are still 2d |
| 03:36:51 | Guardian | I would like to have a third person view of the tank as well... |
| 03:37:15 | Widget | Guardian: Then you could see behind you. |
| 03:37:23 | Widget | Guardian: That eliminates a big part of the game. |
| 03:37:27 | captain_proton | Guardian: the new physics stuff allows for completely realistic interaction, but i'm not sure of if it will be used |
| 03:37:40 | Guardian | You wouldn't be able to see behind |
| 03:38:03 | Guardian | it would simply be an "over-the-shoulder" view |
| 03:38:31 | captain_proton | Guardian: that can be done in 1.7 with 'make FOLLOWTANK=1' - i think you'll find its a lot harder to use than you might imagine |
| 03:38:46 | Guardian | No I know it would be hard to aim |
| 03:39:12 | Guardian | But sometimes I just feel the urge to switch views and I can't |
| 03:42:12 | nuum | wheres tim at? |
| 03:42:36 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 03:42:52 | captain_proton | i need to bug him about adding "// vim: tabspace=4 shiftwidth=8" at the head of every source file |
| 03:44:29 | nuum | bah, emacs owns |
| 03:44:47 | nuum | proton: do you think that red/green/blue/purple/rogue will stick for 1.8? |
| 03:45:16 | captain_proton | nuum: i'd be willing to bet that the capability for more teams will be added |
| 03:45:31 | nuum | proton: when is this gonna happen? |
| 03:45:37 | captain_proton | nuum: when someone does it? |
| 03:45:51 | nuum | proton: does the same go for 1.8? |
| 03:46:05 | nuum | hows the job hunt? |
| 03:46:16 | captain_proton | nuum: timmy wants to get 1.8 out by august - probably not going to happen with the current work |
| 03:46:23 | captain_proton | no progress at all |
| 03:47:11 | nuum | yeah, well i think that you guys put out 1.8 now and then let the community kick your asses into gear |
| 03:47:51 | nuum | cuz i feel as though it isn't no progress, its just stall stall stall |
| 03:48:20 | nuum | proton: you done any work with pthread? |
| 03:48:42 | nuum | werd, i'm working on the spideyqueens now... |
| 03:49:40 | nuum | saw rcam playin flag the other day |
| 03:49:57 | nuum | haven't had the pleasure of beating your ass lately ;) |
| 03:50:11 | captain_proton | no pthread stuff |
| 03:50:43 | nuum | any threading at all? |
| 03:50:59 | captain_proton | i've done multiprocess programs |
| 03:51:02 | nuum | i'm miffed cuz i can't use it in my queens (for xss) |
| 03:51:04 | captain_proton | coordinated through semaphores |
| 03:51:17 | captain_proton | what is 'queens' ?? |
| 03:51:22 | nuum | my hack to xscreensaver |
| 03:51:27 | captain_proton | describe it |
| 03:51:32 | nuum | are you familiar with the n-queens problem? |
| 03:51:46 | captain_proton | i think so |
| 03:52:30 | nuum | place n queens on an nxn chessboard with condition that no queen attacks a sister |
| 03:52:38 | captain_proton | ahh yes |
| 03:53:40 | nuum | this is the current "vxl" queens |
| 03:54:30 | nuum | i've also got spiderqueens on the way |
| 03:55:51 | captain_proton | ahh, nice |
| 03:55:56 | captain_proton | spiderqueens? |
| 03:56:26 | nuum | spider man, spider man, does whatever a spider can |
| 03:56:40 | nuum | nuthin like the movie, but she does have 8 legs! |
| 03:57:40 | nuum | i still don't see why you don't use emacs, what with the elisp and all |
| 03:59:57 | nuum | know much about opengl proton? |
| 04:03:32 | nuum | know anything about women's bodies? i mean, the _ideal_ woman (question begging)? proportions? |
| 04:06:59 | nuum | captain_proton: report! |
| 04:07:56 | captain_proton | nuum: emacs is a nice operating system, but it lacks a decent text editor |
| 04:08:35 | nuum | um, bwahahaha, but you are rong sir! |
| 04:08:51 | captain_proton | yeah, i'm rong all the time |
| 04:09:09 | nuum | so is this aphex twin fellow |
| 04:09:14 | captain_proton | ? |
| 04:09:20 | captain_proton | he a vim user? |
| 04:09:21 | captain_proton | =) |
| 04:09:27 | nuum | well fuck, do you know how to use opengl, or don't ya? |
| 04:09:32 | captain_proton | yeah, i do |
| 04:10:18 | nuum | so how do i do a fade? |
| 04:10:25 | nuum | i'm lighting the scene |
| 04:10:37 | nuum | should i decrease light values, or alpha blend everything else out? |
| 04:10:47 | captain_proton | up to you |
| 04:10:54 | nuum | efficiency wise? |
| 04:11:00 | captain_proton | lighting is probably more efficient |
| 04:11:04 | nuum | really? |
| 04:11:05 | captain_proton | and more widely supported on older systems |
| 04:11:13 | captain_proton | (since you're lighting anyway) |
| 04:11:14 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org5156 |
| 04:11:16 | nuum | are you just talking out your ass? |
| 04:11:16 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 04:11:17 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 04:11:25 | nuum | ok, lighting it is |
| 04:11:36 | nuum | now to make the queens move... |
| 04:11:39 | captain_proton | nuum: well - base efficiency is hardware dependent |
| 04:12:01 | nuum | lighting would be truer to life tho |
| 04:12:01 | captain_proton | nuum: but if you're already enabling GL_LIGHTING, adding blending will only lengthen your pipeline |
| 04:12:35 | nuum | proton: this thing doesn't even touch my video card, but chugs the r128 mobility to death |
| 04:12:58 | nuum | proton: but how else am i supposed to have see through queenies? |
| 04:13:19 | captain_proton | nuum: if you've got lights in your scene already, changing the values will not add any rendering time per frame |
| 04:13:25 | captain_proton | see-through queenies |
| 04:13:25 | captain_proton | ? |
| 04:13:30 | captain_proton | why would you want that? |
| 04:13:34 | nuum | proton: can the material allow me to pass through light behind them? |
| 04:13:48 | captain_proton | no |
| 04:13:57 | nuum | proton: ok, so its just up to me computing new values for a vector every iteration... |
| 04:14:11 | nuum | proton: how about reflection? how to do this? |
| 04:14:20 | captain_proton | stencil buffer |
| 04:14:24 | captain_proton | hang on, i know a decent tutorial |
| 04:14:26 | nuum | oh yeah... |
| 04:14:37 | nuum | that was dog slow on my machine though |
| 04:14:49 | captain_proton | stencil buffers are card-dependent |
| 04:14:57 | captain_proton | older cards will have slow or nonexistant support |
| 04:16:02 | captain_proton | http://nehe.gamedev.net/tutorials/lesson.asp?l=26 |
| 04:16:04 | nuum | nvidia geforce2? |
| 04:16:10 | captain_proton | geforce2 should work fine |
| 04:16:13 | nuum | proton: yeah, i hacked some code from there |
| 04:16:24 | nuum | crappy microsoft using bs |
| 04:16:44 | captain_proton | a few of the examples have been ported to SDL, but the coding style is just as bad |
| 04:17:08 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:17:16 | captain_proton | you've heard gorecki's 3rd symphony, no? |
| 04:17:22 | nuum | i have, yes |
| 04:18:11 | nuum | now my cylinders face the wrong way... |
| 04:19:08 | nuum | and my nvidia screws up sometimes by putting a vertex out into the middle of afghanistan |
| 04:19:21 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:19:24 | captain_proton | thats your code, not your card |
| 04:19:53 | nuum | um, i'm using gluCylinder |
| 04:20:00 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:20:13 | nuum | its done that with some doods rotate_line too, |
| 04:20:17 | captain_proton | YUO ARE TEH SUCK!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111 |
| 04:20:20 | nuum | spent forever trying to debug it |
| 04:20:28 | nuum | yuo are the suck!!!!!!1111? |
| 04:20:38 | captain_proton | JeffK |
| 04:20:39 | nuum | all your base |
| 04:21:08 | captain_proton | http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/ |
| 04:21:11 | captain_proton | BZFlag: !! |
| 04:21:16 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i have a proposition for you |
| 04:21:34 | captain_proton | i say we add |
| 04:21:42 | captain_proton | / vim: tabstop=4 shiftwidth=8 |
| 04:21:51 | captain_proton | to the head of every source file <grins> |
| 04:22:35 | BZFlag | shiftwidth=8 ? shouldn't that be 2? |
| 04:22:46 | captain_proton | no, 8 |
| 04:22:50 | captain_proton | 8 = tab |
| 04:22:58 | captain_proton | which makes it unset my normal .vimrc setting |
| 04:22:58 | nuum | BZFlag: are you going to have red/green/blue/purple/rogue in 1.8? |
| 04:23:19 | captain_proton | of, suprise! 2 |
| 04:24:10 | captain_proton | also, i implore that you remove the yow module from ibot pronto =} |
| 04:24:48 | | YOW!! The land of the rising SONY!! |
| 04:24:48 | BZFlag | ibot: yow |
| 04:25:09 | nuum | BZFlag: are you going to have red/green/blue/purple/rogue in 1.8? |
| 04:25:12 | BZFlag | tad bugging ibot again? |
| 04:25:16 | captain_proton | *nod* |
| 04:25:21 | BZFlag | nuum: yes. |
| 04:25:35 | BZFlag | nuum: and likely an "observers" team. |
| 04:25:49 | captain_proton | only 4(6) ? |
| 04:26:02 | BZFlag | 4(6)? |
| 04:26:23 | captain_proton | 4 real teams, 6 total |
| 04:26:51 | BZFlag | ah. don't know yet. 8 team maps should be easy and even. but colors would be hard. |
| 04:26:55 | captain_proton | i'd like to at least see the option for more, for use in a monster game |
| 04:26:55 | nuum | BZFlag: then why not adapt the teams into rat/z00/meq/vxl/rog? |
| 04:27:03 | BZFlag | textures can work, but not everyone has them. |
| 04:27:26 | nuum | yeah, but no one plays tourney style regularly |
| 04:27:39 | captain_proton | no? |
| 04:27:45 | BZFlag | nuum: teams will be able to be elitist and rebranded as a league, but that's not a normal team setup. |
| 04:27:46 | captain_proton | we had about 8 league games last sunday |
| 04:28:03 | captain_proton | whoop @ elitest |
| 04:28:12 | BZFlag | the base game will just have colors. |
| 04:28:26 | BZFlag | I'm planning something like this: |
| 04:28:48 | nuum | BZFlag: colors are boring, no theme... |
| 04:28:59 | nuum | BZFlag: they are still colors, too... |
| 04:29:07 | BZFlag | two players join a team and choose a captian. then the captian can change the name of the team and require that new players need his approval to join it. |
| 04:30:04 | BZFlag | will likely need a majority vote way to distroy the team etc. and require that not all teams can be taken over etc. |
| 04:30:15 | BZFlag | er destroy. sorry. |
| 04:30:27 | captain_proton | BZFlag: perhaps it'd be nice to integrate with the existing league system |
| 04:30:47 | nuum | i still think just getting in and joining any team is the way to go... |
| 04:31:02 | nuum | league is fun, but not exactly spontaneous |
| 04:31:17 | captain_proton | nuum: i don't want meq being spontaneous |
| 04:32:39 | BZFlag | with a full karma system the team could equal a league and any league members would be able to join without approval. |
| 04:33:37 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ruling on the // vim: 1st line? |
| 04:33:39 | nuum | proton: meq is beyond meq, meq is blue, think of it as a lasting tribute |
| 04:34:07 | captain_proton | nuum: i'm elitest - i don't want the riffraff using it =} |
| 04:34:35 | nuum | colors might include orange, cyan, different green, gray |
| 04:34:46 | nuum | proton: riffraff! |
| 04:34:59 | nuum | proton: apparently i'm riff raff, so watch out. |
| 04:35:09 | BZFlag | captain_proton: I suppose it's possible. might as well do it when I change the copyright everywhere. |
| 04:35:27 | captain_proton | BZFlag: change copyright? |
| 04:35:39 | captain_proton | copyright 1992-2002 Tim Riker, RCAM |
| 04:36:05 | nuum | bwahahahaha |
| 04:36:16 | BZFlag | rcam. heh. |
| 04:36:36 | nuum | proton: yeah, ok, meq we could cut, maybe change to qem |
| 04:36:41 | nuum | that sounds cool |
| 04:36:45 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i'm thinking of doing it now so i don't muck up anything more |
| 04:37:19 | nuum | but jeezus, i don't see why you guys don't adopt my patch, the game looks so hopelessly simple |
| 04:37:23 | BZFlag | let me play for a bit, k? |
| 04:37:35 | BZFlag | and what about vi: vs vim: |
| 04:38:05 | captain_proton | BZFlag: does classic vi support tabstop, shiftwidth, and formatting instructions? |
| 04:39:16 | Widget | Use ex! ex is the One True Editor! |
| 04:39:17 | nuum | plays with emacs |
| 04:39:24 | nuum | codes with emacs |
| 04:39:37 | BZFlag | I think vim will do ex: as well. ;-) |
| 04:39:43 | Widget | So, can you play BZFlag with Emacs yet? |
| 04:39:46 | nuum | die vi |
| 04:40:01 | captain_proton | Widget: you BASTARD |
| 04:40:08 | captain_proton | Widget: now nuum is gonna go write BZFlag.el |
| 04:40:13 | nuum | Widget: yo momma |
| 04:40:39 | nuum | bwahahahaha, bzflag.el, with all my lisp functions and all |
| 04:40:41 | Widget | Are there Lisp bindings for OpenGL? |
| 04:40:57 | Widget | 123681013 |
| 04:41:04 | Widget | 123681013Hm. |
| 04:41:11 | Widget | Weird. |
| 04:41:13 | BZFlag | 1.8 should be tabstop=4 shiftwidth=4 no? |
| 04:41:16 | Widget | Beeps are annoying. |
| 04:41:18 | Widget | Aren't they? |
| 04:41:25 | Widget | Gah. |
| 04:41:26 | captain_proton | BZFlag: no, because the shiftwidth is a tab |
| 04:41:38 | Widget | Eight spaces = one tab |
| 04:41:40 | captain_proton | BZFlag: shiftwidth=4 would insert lots of spaces |
| 04:41:53 | captain_proton | vim knows that 8 = tab |
| 04:42:04 | Widget | captain_proton: Just use astyle or something. |
| 04:42:25 | captain_proton | BZFlag: therefore what the shiftwidth=8 actually does is -unset- any shiftwidth thats already set |
| 04:42:51 | nuum | well my patch is gone, and so i expect thats the last development for flag, later |
| 04:44:13 | BZFlag | captain_proton: hmm... shiftwidth=4 tabstop=4 seems to do just the right thing for me here. |
| 04:45:09 | captain_proton | hmm i guess it works as well |
| 04:48:09 | captain_proton | for file in `ls *.h --color=never`; do |
| 04:48:22 | captain_proton | (echo "// vim: tabstop=2 shiftwidth=2";cat -) < $file > "$file".new |
| 04:48:29 | captain_proton | mv "$file".new $file |
| 04:48:29 | captain_proton | done |
| 04:48:38 | captain_proton | err |
| 04:48:39 | captain_proton | 4 |
| 04:48:45 | captain_proton | BZFlag: just tell me when =) |
| 04:48:54 | BZFlag | captain_proton: why do you need the --color=never? |
| 04:49:05 | BZFlag | don't you use --color=auto by default? |
| 04:49:12 | captain_proton | no, i use --color=always |
| 04:49:16 | captain_proton | because it works in |more |
| 04:49:24 | BZFlag | so does --color=auto |
| 04:49:31 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 04:49:36 | captain_proton | well, it didn't when i set that alias =) |
| 04:49:40 | BZFlag | automagically. |
| 04:50:26 | captain_proton | hrm no it doesn't |
| 04:50:42 | captain_proton | mebbe debian is different |
| 04:51:12 | BZFlag | --color=tty or --color=auto should auto detect that stdout is not a tty and be mono. |
| 04:51:19 | BZFlag | I use it on all my debian systems. |
| 04:51:28 | captain_proton | ahh what i mean is that with always, you see colors in |more |
| 04:51:37 | captain_proton | which i like |
| 04:52:05 | BZFlag | ah. well use --color=always for more then. ;-) |
| 04:52:39 | captain_proton | back to the matter at hand - shall i go for it? |
| 04:53:12 | BZFlag | never uses more anymore. ;-) /he always uses less, which is like more but better, more or less. |
| 04:53:32 | captain_proton | /he |
| 04:53:34 | captain_proton | there's a new one |
| 04:53:40 | BZFlag | so you could say less is less than more. ;-) |
| 04:53:52 | BZFlag | er I guess less is more than less. |
| 04:53:57 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:53:59 | captain_proton | less is more than more |
| 04:54:17 | captain_proton | often just linear paging is good enough |
| 04:54:21 | captain_proton | plus i get colors with more, |
| 04:54:24 | captain_proton | none with less |
| 04:54:24 | BZFlag | ah, that sounds about righ. and inversely: more is less than less |
| 04:56:03 | BZFlag | I wish vim would read a ./.vimrc instead. but it does not does it? |
| 04:56:30 | captain_proton | thank goodness for that disconnect |
| 04:56:53 | captain_proton | so... |
| 04:56:58 | captain_proton | can i do it? |
| 04:57:48 | captain_proton | puts on a puppy-dog face |
| 04:58:43 | captain_proton | watches BZFlag hesitate |
| 05:01:17 | BZFlag | looks like tabstop and shiftwidth are in normal vi as well. so vi: is possible. |
| 05:01:27 | BZFlag | ah, that sounds about righ. and inversely: more is less than less |
| 05:01:32 | BZFlag | I wish vim would read a ./.vimrc instead. but it does not does it? |
| 05:01:48 | BZFlag | restates what captain_proton might have missed. |
| 05:02:19 | captain_proton | haha |
| 05:02:21 | captain_proton | i saw it |
| 05:02:50 | captain_proton | no, vim does not read ./vimrc |
| 05:05:35 | BZFlag | or ./.vimrc |
| 05:05:42 | captain_proton | thats what i meant |
| 05:06:41 | captain_proton | http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1023141382aQT8zHyDcL_1_12_l.jpg <-- seen this? |
| 05:07:42 | iLLf8d | captain_proton: what about it? |
| 05:07:45 | iLLf8d | the cylinders? |
| 05:07:54 | captain_proton | to the left of the cylinders |
| 05:08:08 | BZFlag | heh, the tube? ;-) |
| 05:08:14 | captain_proton | yupyup |
| 05:08:43 | BZFlag | a bit of gimp magic? |
| 05:09:01 | captain_proton | nope |
| 05:09:05 | captain_proton | its a new motherboard |
| 05:09:10 | captain_proton | with tube audio amplification |
| 05:10:38 | captain_proton | but don't let me distract you from your decision about the // vi: header |
| 05:10:55 | captain_proton | =} |
| 05:15:40 | BZFlag | I'm now tending towards ex: |
| 05:15:48 | captain_proton | ex: ? |
| 05:16:39 | BZFlag | looks like tabstop and shiftwidth have been around since ex days. |
| 05:16:54 | captain_proton | ex...ed? |
| 05:17:45 | BZFlag | hmm don't think ed and ex are related. ex was a command line editor on k&r unix way back when. vim works as ex if you like. |
| 05:18:09 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:26:11 | BZFlag | for a in `find . -name \*\.[ch]\*` ; do echo '/* ex: tabstop=4 shiftwidth=4 */' $a ; done |
| 05:26:16 | BZFlag | should do it, no? |
| 05:26:19 | captain_proton | .cxx |
| 05:26:25 | BZFlag | for a in `find . -name \*\.[ch]\*` ; do echo '/* ex: tabstop=4 shiftwidth=4 */' >> $a ; done |
| 05:26:27 | BZFlag | er. |
| 05:26:43 | BZFlag | hence the .[ch]* |
| 05:27:06 | captain_proton | {cxx|h} ?? |
| 05:27:47 | captain_proton | i think it'd be cleaner just to go through and do while loops in each dir |
| 05:27:47 | BZFlag | well, there are a few .c files too. |
| 05:27:54 | captain_proton | err |
| 05:27:55 | captain_proton | for |
| 05:28:18 | BZFlag | that's also why I did C comments instead of c++ comments. |
| 05:28:40 | captain_proton | i still think it'd be better at the beginning |
| 05:30:25 | captain_proton | but i suppose it doesn't matter |
| 05:34:08 | BZFlag | I figure folks never need to see it, so the end makes more sense. |
| 05:34:12 | BZFlag | agreed? |
| 05:34:35 | captain_proton | supposes |
| 05:36:11 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:36:29 | captain_proton | i'm thinking maybe a read-mostly option for BZDB entries might be a good idea |
| 05:36:38 | captain_proton | server can set but they can't be changed through the console |
| 05:37:05 | captain_proton | hrm nevermind |
| 05:44:23 | BZFlag | hmm.. vi does not like the */ =( |
| 05:44:38 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 05:44:51 | captain_proton | where are the .c files? zlib? |
| 05:46:14 | BZFlag | yep. |
| 05:46:25 | captain_proton | i don't think we need the vim stuff in that |
| 05:46:37 | captain_proton | we're probably not going to change it |
| 05:48:39 | BZFlag | sounds good. |
| 05:56:51 | BZFlag | ok, headed into cvs.... |
| 05:57:14 | captain_proton | whoop whoop |
| 06:00:12 | captain_proton | 26 emails... |
| 06:02:21 | captain_proton | is off for 15 mins |
| 06:05:35 | BZFlag | hacks 1.7 as well. with sw=2 ts=8 |
| 06:05:47 | BZFlag | and touches copyright while he's at it. |
| 06:07:23 | MrApathyCream | wowsers |
| 06:25:12 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:26:53 | captain_proton | BZFlag: whats the #define you did to make it dump the world? |
| 06:28:21 | BZFlag | DEBUG_DUMPWORLD |
| 06:31:28 | BZFlag | blast.... ;-) |
| 06:31:34 | captain_proton | ? |
| 06:32:58 | Guardian | My server is popular, YAY! |
| 06:33:24 | Guardian | Anyway, good night |
| 06:36:19 | BZFlag | captain_proton: check your mail now. ;-) |
| 06:39:55 | captain_proton | what was the 'blast' about? |
| 06:41:16 | BZFlag | a mail blast for the last commit. |
| 06:41:32 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 06:42:14 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:42:41 | captain_proton | how goes work on the new protocol? |
| 06:43:12 | BZFlag | sow lately. my new CTO job is taking it's toll. |
| 06:43:17 | BZFlag | er slow... |
| 06:43:30 | captain_proton | you got promoted? |
| 06:44:59 | BZFlag | yep |
| 06:45:09 | captain_proton | when did that happen? |
| 06:46:30 | MrApathyCream | double wowsers |
| 06:46:44 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream checked his inbox |
| 06:47:01 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 06:48:12 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, some late checkin causes CLIENTQUERY response to self not to be tagged |
| 06:48:14 | MrApathyCream | get |
| 06:48:34 | MrApathyCream | Version 1.7e5 UDP |
| 06:48:35 | MrApathyCream | not |
| 06:48:42 | MrApathyCream | MrApathyCream: Version 1.7e5 UDP |
| 06:48:57 | MrApathyCream | --smally-- |
| 06:48:58 | captain_proton | u16 FIXME <- ? |
| 06:49:29 | BZFlag | well I took over as CTO about a month ago, but I'm still handling all my engineering work too. |
| 06:49:35 | BZFlag | double the work lately. |
| 06:49:41 | captain_proton | eww |
| 06:49:42 | BZFlag | should even out in a month or so. |
| 06:49:44 | MrApathyCream | half the fun |
| 06:49:48 | BZFlag | heh |
| 06:50:47 | captain_proton | ponders what to hack at next |
| 06:51:02 | MrApathyCream | md5 *nix directories :p |
| 06:51:11 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 06:51:19 | BZFlag | captain_proton: just does not have a tag number yet. |
| 06:51:44 | MrApathyCream | CTO@? |
| 06:51:48 | BZFlag | heh |
| 06:52:40 | BZFlag | http://www.lineo.com/aboutlineo/executives/ <- mo picture up yet though. ;-) |
| 06:53:31 | captain_proton | how old is that CEO? |
| 06:53:42 | MrApathyCream | a cto that knows how to program... that'll never work |
| 06:54:42 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: heh. perhaps I can start a trend? |
| 06:55:08 | BZFlag | captain_proton: he's about my age I think. I'm close to 40 though you'd never guess it. |
| 06:55:21 | captain_proton | he looks about 22 in that photo |
| 06:55:37 | BZFlag | heh, and in person as well. ;-) |
| 06:55:51 | MrApathyCream | it'll never catch on... |
| 06:56:11 | BZFlag | http://rikers.org/timriker.jpg or http://rikers.org/timr-christ.jpg ? |
| 06:56:56 | captain_proton | that 2nd one is you as well? |
| 06:57:20 | BZFlag | heh, yep. I was in a pageant and played the part of christ. |
| 06:57:29 | BZFlag | not my real hair or beard. |
| 06:57:31 | captain_proton | i say go with that one |
| 06:58:13 | BZFlag | http://henry.rikers.org/19990709tk.jpg |
| 06:58:35 | BZFlag | http://henry.rikers.org/19990709th.jpg |
| 06:58:49 | BZFlag | with my wife or with my oldest, henry. |
| 06:59:14 | BZFlag | http://henry.rikers.org/19990713apostles.jpg and the 12 |
| 06:59:44 | captain_proton | you don't strike me as a religious man |
| 07:00:54 | BZFlag | hmm. I do church every sunday etc. but not too much overflow tween church and hacking. |
| 07:01:22 | BZFlag | though I was hacking up scriptures for my Zaurus lastnight: http://rikers.org/lds/ |
| 07:03:50 | MrApathyCream | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/MAC.png |
| 07:04:38 | captain_proton | your web server isn't configured with a PNG mime type |
| 07:04:44 | MrApathyCream | frig |
| 07:04:48 | MrApathyCream | hold on |
| 07:06:42 | MrApathyCream | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/MAC.jpg |
| 07:07:15 | captain_proton | that really you? |
| 07:07:24 | MrApathyCream | you doubt? |
| 07:07:33 | captain_proton | that i do |
| 07:07:39 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:08:06 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/old/me/me.jpg |
| 07:10:11 | MrApathyCream | want to see BZFlag dressed up as B. Gates |
| 07:15:19 | MrApathyCream | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/Bill-Tim.jpg |
| 07:16:44 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:16:59 | MrApathyCream | his range is great from christ to the anti-christ |
| 07:20:23 | MrApathyCream | hopefully you got this from somewhere: http://rikers.org/lds/ <<-- as opposed to typing |
| 07:20:28 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 07:24:47 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: yeah, I'm just working on cooking the size down. it came with all kinds of extra html cruft. |
| 07:25:53 | MrApathyCream | ahh |
| 08:21:47 | iLLf8d | hey all |
| 08:21:49 | iLLf8d | I had a good idea for dealing with cheats |
| 08:21:51 | iLLf8d | after you kick them... |
| 08:21:53 | iLLf8d | have a 10 min timeout on joining the server |
| 08:21:56 | iLLf8d | or until a command is given to accept new players |
| 08:22:12 | iLLf8d | if he has to wait 5-10 min chances are he'll lose interest |
| 08:47:51 | pnm | how about the option to ban hostmasks as well as kicking (like IRC)? |
| 10:02:38 | Chestal | re |
| 10:21:55 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 10:22:28 | iLLf8d | anyone here have any videos they need me to keep an offsite backup copy? |
| 10:25:16 | Chestal | we can ban ips with e5 |
| 10:25:25 | Chestal | there's /ban, /unban and /banlist |
| 10:25:28 | Chestal | also -ban option |
| 10:25:38 | Chestal | but it's not always useful |
| 10:26:19 | iLLf8d | you don't like the timedban idea? |
| 10:26:39 | iLLf8d | ie kick/ban and disallow new connections for say a set timeout |
| 10:26:46 | iLLf8d | for everyone |
| 10:26:55 | Chestal | for everyone? |
| 10:27:05 | iLLf8d | its easy enough to make it an optional parm |
| 10:27:07 | iLLf8d | and undoable |
| 10:27:13 | iLLf8d | yeah... |
| 10:27:16 | Chestal | hmm |
| 10:27:24 | iLLf8d | for example ctf.... |
| 10:27:40 | iLLf8d | say a 5 min will be enough time for cell or whoever to get bored and look for other targets |
| 10:27:41 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 10:27:55 | iLLf8d | you could even make it as small as 3 min |
| 10:28:02 | iLLf8d | if you're trying to reconnect 3 min is a long time |
| 10:28:23 | Chestal | hmm, we would have to think about that |
| 10:29:44 | pnm | are there lots of cases of cheaters reconnecting from a different ip then? |
| 10:30:20 | pnm | seems a shame to stop _everyone_ connecting |
| 10:30:36 | Chestal | perfect cell is one prominent case |
| 10:46:47 | iLLf8d | Chestal: if its an option its optional for the admin |
| 10:46:56 | iLLf8d | obvious but I wanna make a point |
| 10:47:03 | iLLf8d | also.... my point being... |
| 10:47:14 | iLLf8d | if some overt cheater is on genoing everyone |
| 10:47:18 | iLLf8d | people leave anyway |
| 10:47:25 | iLLf8d | so it'll have a server clearing effect |
| 10:47:36 | iLLf8d | you can either keep them out and let people there play in piece |
| 10:47:49 | iLLf8d | or leave it open and let people get pissed and leave angry |
| 10:47:55 | iLLf8d | I vote the for the first |
| 10:51:16 | iLLf8d | s/piece/peace heh |
| 13:51:05 | marx | hi |
| 13:51:27 | pnm | hiya |
| 13:51:55 | pnm | istr some kind of documentation system on www.bzflag.org which explained the function of each file in the source. Can't seem to find it now though. Anyone happen to know the url, or has it disappeared? |
| 13:52:10 | ritchie_ | y? |
| 13:52:34 | pnm | interested in how it works |
| 13:52:42 | pnm | need to know where to look for various things |
| 13:52:52 | pnm | including altering server to be queried for game time |
| 13:52:59 | ritchie_ | ah right |
| 13:53:07 | ritchie_ | im doing some server editing atm |
| 13:53:09 | ritchie_ | its all in |
| 13:53:10 | ritchie_ | bzfs.cxx |
| 13:53:15 | pnm | obviouslement |
| 13:53:35 | pnm | wouldn't mind browsing the documentation system though |
| 13:53:37 | ritchie_ | chestal: the bug has disappeared mysteriously - ill send u |
| 13:53:41 | ritchie_ | the diff |
| 13:53:41 | pnm | got to it from the wiki before |
| 13:53:44 | ritchie_ | at some stage |
| 13:57:07 | pnm | ah |
| 13:57:09 | pnm | excellent |
| 13:57:10 | pnm | http://www.bzflag.org/doxydocs/ |
| 18:40:18 | ritchie__ | hi |
| 18:55:15 | dinah | dinah wonders if anyone is really here |
| 18:55:53 | dinah | thinks perhaps not |
| 19:00:10 | ^john | hello dinah |
| 19:01:02 | dinah | captain! i wrote a doc for the new observer controls! i love it! :-) |
| 19:02:07 | captain_proton | dinah: where? |
| 19:02:31 | dinah | um on my desktop |
| 19:02:42 | captain_proton | i see |
| 19:03:05 | dinah | its so nice my first computer type thing |
| 19:06:07 | dinah | cheater on ducati! |
| 19:06:19 | dinah | super perfect cell was there! |
| 19:06:33 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 19:06:36 | captain_proton | still there? |
| 19:06:48 | dinah | no kill evryone and left |
| 19:07:17 | dinah | said: "shit", and "u saw it" |
| 19:07:24 | captain_proton | he actually spoke? |
| 19:07:25 | captain_proton | wow |
| 19:09:25 | dinah | hes back! |
| 19:10:27 | freelancer | hi guys perfeckt cell is at ducati ctf with geno can someone help |
| 19:10:42 | dinah | he ws just kicked |
| 19:11:00 | freelancer | he was just there |
| 19:11:16 | freelancer | he came back |
| 19:11:26 | dinah | hes gone now luv |
| 19:11:34 | freelancer | ty dinah |
| 19:11:37 | captain_proton | who kicked him? |
| 19:11:46 | dinah | some observer i think |
| 19:11:57 | captain_proton | i joined but i didn't see him |
| 19:12:25 | dinah | he got kicked by some 1 the first time, came back got kicked again |
| 19:12:36 | dinah | he spoke then too |
| 19:13:20 | dinah | @ a purple one, warned him he would kick him again |
| 19:13:28 | dinah | then cell said "k" |
| 19:13:37 | dinah | "keep cool fuck head" |
| 19:19:39 | Ginku | nice wording dinah |
| 19:21:27 | dinah | thanks Ginku |
| 19:22:14 | dinah | hear about the real horrorshow doc i wrote? |
| 19:22:55 | dinah | thinks shes being ignored :-( |
| 19:26:25 | Ginku | never dinah, which doc you mean ? |
| 19:26:46 | dinah | hmm i should probably post it some place... |
| 19:27:12 | dinah | Ginku: any idea where i could? |
| 19:27:48 | Ginku | send me a mail to michael.gehm@gmx.de :-) |
| 19:27:57 | dinah | ok |
| 19:28:29 | Ginku | I hope I don't get red ears ;-) |
| 19:28:39 | dinah | why would you? |
| 19:28:54 | Ginku | don't know ? |
| 19:29:15 | Ginku | have you send the mail ? |
| 19:29:22 | dinah | in a sec k? |
| 19:29:45 | Ginku | sure |
| 19:30:54 | Ginku | hello jh: are you over there ? |
| 19:31:06 | Ginku | Chestal ? |
| 19:31:40 | Ginku | brb |
| 19:31:44 | dinah | Ginku i sent it! |
| 19:34:10 | ^john | yes |
| 19:34:33 | ^john | what ginku? |
| 19:34:36 | Ginku | hi jh, I'll check it dinah |
| 19:34:59 | dinah | Ginku: i hope you like it, my first tech writing you know |
| 19:35:27 | ^john | ginku im having few beers |
| 19:36:30 | Ginku | GREAT !! What kind ? |
| 19:36:46 | Ginku | dinah: thank you, I've got it |
| 19:37:30 | Ginku | dinah:....but don't understand it :-( |
| 19:37:41 | dinah | what :-( |
| 19:37:53 | ^john | just 60% shit |
| 19:37:55 | ^john | lol |
| 19:38:03 | dinah | do you have 1.7e5? |
| 19:38:08 | captain_proton | Ginku: forward it to me? |
| 19:38:18 | Ginku | dinah: the whole thing, but it looks fine |
| 19:38:36 | ^john | heheeh |
| 19:38:37 | ^john | <dinah> you enjoy boring me? |
| 19:38:37 | ^john | <^john> no |
| 19:38:37 | ^john | <dinah> so entertain me, tell me a story or some such thing |
| 19:38:37 | ^john | <^john> im too tired |
| 19:38:37 | ^john | <^john> for that |
| 19:38:39 | ^john | * dinah couldn't care less |
| 19:38:41 | ^john | <^john> go away from me u beast |
| 19:38:43 | ^john | <^john> lol |
| 19:38:44 | Ginku | jh: what do you mean with 60% ? |
| 19:38:45 | ^john | <dinah> wake up someone wants you in the main window.. |
| 19:39:01 | dinah | oh i so want you to like it |
| 19:39:25 | dinah | ^john: wtf?!? |
| 19:39:29 | ^john | haahaha |
| 19:39:36 | ^john | sorry mistake |
| 19:39:54 | dinah | is soooo confused |
| 19:40:30 | Ginku | too |
| 19:41:13 | Ginku | jh: what kind of beer ? |
| 19:41:29 | ^john | no beer |
| 19:41:37 | ^john | 60%¨ |
| 19:41:51 | Ginku | I' ve here a few Bavarian "Pils" |
| 19:42:02 | dinah | 120 proof right? |
| 19:42:10 | Ginku | percentage of alcohol ? |
| 19:42:15 | ^john | lol |
| 19:42:28 | Ginku | what 120% ?? |
| 19:42:33 | dinah | must be everclear or some such thing |
| 19:42:55 | captain_proton | everclear is 190 proof |
| 19:43:17 | dinah | captain_proton: i said or some such thing silly |
| 19:44:11 | Ginku | is everclear a schnaps ? |
| 19:44:20 | dinah | grain alchol |
| 19:45:06 | dinah | i think |
| 19:45:50 | Ginku | I like Ouzo, you know Ouzo ? |
| 19:46:24 | dinah | no |
| 19:46:38 | dinah | scratches her head |
| 19:47:41 | Ginku | it's a Greece high percentage (so correct ?) drink |
| 19:47:54 | dinah | yes |
| 19:49:02 | Ginku | an anise drink |
| 19:49:42 | dinah | like pernod or absinthe? |
| 19:52:19 | Ginku | dinah: I'll check you work tomorrow more exact, but I think, you should show it Chestal thilo@unix-ag.org |
| 19:52:39 | dinah | could you send it for me. im nervous |
| 19:52:51 | Ginku | of course !! |
| 19:53:06 | dinah | i hope everyone likes it |
| 19:53:25 | captain_proton | Ginku: forward to me too? jupiter at babylonia.flatirons.org |
| 19:53:31 | Ginku | yep, tastes a bit like pernod but you have Ouzo to drink ice cold |
| 19:53:41 | captain_proton | heya tim |
| 19:54:05 | dinah | everyone please tell me if they like it when they see it, alright? :-/ |
| 19:54:11 | Ginku | sure captain |
| 19:58:34 | Ginku | captain_proton: a moment (was in the cellar for beer) |
| 20:04:54 | dinah | uh oh i just found a bug |
| 20:05:32 | captain_proton | ? |
| 20:06:08 | dinah | in roaming the radar and over head view are reversed |
| 20:06:38 | dinah | that is the little v thats my view faces the wrong way |
| 20:06:47 | captain_proton | are you sure? |
| 20:07:01 | dinah | only after i followd people for a bit |
| 20:07:21 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:08:14 | dinah | yes im very sure |
| 20:08:22 | Ginku | captain_proton: is your email address correct (jupiter@babylonia.flatirons.org) ? or shoud it be babylonia-flatirons.org ? |
| 20:09:53 | Ginku | Captain ? |
| 20:09:55 | dinah | oh maybe i jsut fliped over! :-) |
| 20:10:42 | Ginku | hm..no Captain |
| 20:10:52 | dinah | so talk to me ;P |
| 20:11:37 | Ginku | hello dinah , whi is Percy ? |
| 20:11:41 | Ginku | nwho |
| 20:11:46 | Ginku | verdammt |
| 20:12:00 | Ginku | dman I mean |
| 20:12:02 | dinah | well Ginku, he is my flat mate |
| 20:12:05 | Ginku | scheisse |
| 20:12:21 | captain_proton | Ginku: yes, . |
| 20:12:23 | Ginku | what the hell is a flat mate ? |
| 20:12:45 | Ginku | boyfriend ? |
| 20:12:55 | captain_proton | Ginku: flat = apartment |
| 20:12:56 | dinah | room mate? you call them |
| 20:14:30 | Ginku | ok I see, my dictionary knew it :-) |
| 20:14:44 | Ginku | my English is so bad :-( |
| 20:15:00 | dinah | so is my not english |
| 20:15:01 | Ginku | C A P T A I N ! ! |
| 20:15:08 | captain_proton | G I N K U |
| 20:15:30 | Ginku | captain : is your emaol address correct ? |
| 20:15:34 | captain_proton | yes |
| 20:15:40 | captain_proton | babylonia.flatirons |
| 20:16:10 | Ginku | hm ........ |
| 20:16:16 | dinah | shall i try? |
| 20:18:50 | dinah | captain_proton: i sent it it worked |
| 20:19:02 | captain_proton | what format is this in? |
| 20:19:06 | dinah | txt |
| 20:19:09 | Ginku | yep do it - I get error message |
| 20:19:36 | Ginku | wrong domain name verdammte Hacke...skfhdPIEHRcVRGQW |
| 20:19:39 | dinah | i wrote it on "gedit" |
| 20:19:41 | captain_proton | you missed two of them |
| 20:19:44 | captain_proton | shift+up and shift+down |
| 20:19:48 | dinah | which? |
| 20:20:15 | dinah | oh could you add them in please? |
| 20:23:05 | Ginku | ok, mail to Chestal is out, captains e-mail address won't be accept ??? |
| 20:23:32 | Ginku | I'll try it with sendmail |
| 20:23:44 | captain_proton | Ginku: dinah sent it to me |
| 20:23:53 | dinah | i did! :) |
| 20:25:19 | Ginku | now you have twice (sendmail worked - starnge) |
| 20:29:22 | Ginku | dinah ? |
| 20:30:16 | Ginku | jh ? |
| 20:30:21 | dinah | yes? |
| 20:30:45 | Ginku | ah what are you doing professional ? |
| 20:30:59 | dinah | im a graphic designer |
| 20:31:11 | Ginku | hey great ! |
| 20:31:52 | dinah | why is that great? |
| 20:32:01 | Ginku | do you work with gimp ? |
| 20:32:19 | dinah | goodness no, its to simple |
| 20:32:26 | Ginku | it's a kind og art ..or ? |
| 20:32:31 | Ginku | of |
| 20:32:55 | Ginku | lol to simple,.. |
| 20:33:20 | dinah | its not near advanced enough |
| 20:33:57 | Ginku | how old, I know, I shouldn't ask that :-) |
| 20:34:13 | dinah | my age? its 22 luv |
| 20:34:32 | dinah | 23 on the 19th |
| 20:34:48 | Ginku | June ? |
| 20:34:55 | dinah | yes of course |
| 20:35:49 | Ginku | good date for birthday , sunny, warm (in Germany ;-) |
| 20:35:59 | dinah | and you are how old? |
| 20:36:16 | Ginku | a little bit older :-) |
| 20:36:21 | Ginku | 41 |
| 20:36:32 | dinah | ohhh just a little |
| 20:37:07 | ritchie_ | hmmm |
| 20:37:18 | dinah | alo ritchie |
| 20:37:23 | Ginku | I think I am the grandpa of bzflag (ok shadow is 41 too) |
| 20:38:05 | dinah | there's probably some other old starry vecks out there ;) |
| 20:40:32 | dinah | thats odd he just poped in to say "hmmm" i guess |
| 20:40:54 | Ginku | what...old starry vecks............typing dictionary.............................. |
| 20:41:12 | dinah | ooops. just slang |
| 20:41:46 | ritchie__ | hihihihi |
| 20:43:54 | dinah | oh i found a bug this time! |
| 20:44:19 | dinah | really i did! |
| 20:44:41 | ritchie__ | hi hi |
| 20:44:49 | dinah | thinks she's talking to herself here... |
| 20:45:25 | dinah | Ginku? |
| 20:45:32 | Ginku | no "veck" in dictionary and no understanding of "starry" in that sense |
| 20:45:53 | dinah | i said its only slang, im sorry i wont use anymore |
| 20:46:40 | dinah | but i did find a but in the new observer stuff |
| 20:46:40 | Ginku | translate it please in understandable English ! |
| 20:47:15 | dinah | veck = man starry = funny |
| 20:48:12 | Ginku | ok |
| 20:48:25 | dinah | understand Ginku? |
| 20:48:46 | Ginku | an old funny man is ok :-) |
| 20:48:52 | dinah | now about the bug i found... |
| 20:49:24 | ritchie__ | .... |
| 20:49:38 | Ginku | I don't understand that stuff - i am a banker ! |
| 20:50:09 | dinah | when you follow someone, say a green player, and then they sing out and come in red, their tank still shows up as green |
| 20:50:18 | dinah | n*sign |
| 20:50:35 | Ginku | sigh ? |
| 20:51:02 | dinah | if they log in and out to change teams... |
| 20:51:08 | ritchie__ | ah |
| 20:51:08 | ritchie__ | yes |
| 20:51:13 | ritchie__ | ive told chestal abt that |
| 20:51:19 | ritchie__ | basically when anyone logs out |
| 20:51:22 | dinah | oh right |
| 20:51:27 | ritchie__ | you have to get it to follow someone else imho |
| 20:51:32 | ritchie__ | and then you wont have a prb |
| 20:51:51 | dinah | cant it do it auto like? |
| 20:51:58 | Ginku | sorry dinah I've to go to bed. I've got a tough cold :-(...cu |
| 20:52:10 | ritchie__ | dinah - yes |
| 20:52:13 | dinah | alright bye Ginku |
| 20:52:14 | ritchie__ | i mean ive told him |
| 20:52:21 | ritchie__ | that the prog |
| 20:52:21 | Ginku | bye rtchie |
| 20:52:22 | ritchie__ | requires |
| 20:52:25 | ritchie__ | bye ginki |
| 20:52:28 | ritchie__ | bye ginku * |
| 20:52:48 | ritchie__ | the client messes up anyway when someone whom you were following leaves |
| 20:52:50 | Ginku | bye jh ? |
| 20:52:55 | ritchie__ | cosyou dont have anyone to follow |
| 20:53:10 | dinah | i wrote a nice liddle help doc for the controls you know |
| 20:53:15 | ritchie__ | well done |
| 20:53:26 | dinah | n:-) |
| 20:53:31 | ritchie__ | well ive written the code for referees to pause and unpause matches.... |
| 20:53:49 | dinah | you can pause matches? |
| 20:53:50 | ritchie__ | and docced that up |
| 20:53:51 | static_InT__ | hi everyone! |
| 20:53:55 | ritchie__ | dinah : yes |
| 20:54:00 | ritchie__ | bit of a hack |
| 20:54:02 | ritchie__ | but it works |
| 20:54:20 | dinah | oh quite beyond me then, if its a hak thing |
| 20:54:23 | Ginku | hi static |
| 20:54:46 | dinah | hello luv ;) |
| 20:54:47 | static_InT__ | und Ginku, noch nicht im Bett;-)? |
| 20:54:50 | Ginku | goes to bed finally.......... |
| 20:55:10 | Ginku | lol wer spricht ? |
| 20:55:24 | static_InT__ | static;-) |
| 20:55:47 | static_InT__ | hi D! not an observer anymore? |
| 20:55:52 | dinah | nope |
| 20:56:04 | static_InT__ | not tired...? |
| 20:56:27 | Ginku | ...hm ein Schweizer... |
| 20:56:43 | Ginku | Blues Bros ? |
| 20:56:45 | static_InT__ | Ginku: wir sprachen mal kurz zusammen auf dem Feld;-) |
| 20:57:05 | Ginku | ah, sorry |
| 20:57:38 | Ginku | ich muss jetzt wirklich gehen, bin ziemlich erkaeltet..... |
| 20:57:38 | dinah | i do so hate it when i cant understand whats being said :-( |
| 20:57:47 | Ginku | hehehe |
| 20:57:52 | static_InT__ | du kommst von D, ginku? |
| 20:58:10 | Ginku | ja, Ludwigshafen am Rhein |
| 20:58:26 | static_InT__ | na ja, Geo ist nicht gerade meine Spezialität |
| 20:58:51 | static_InT__ | gute besserung und gute Nacht indiesem Fakll;-) |
| 20:59:19 | static_InT__ | D: German is eaysier to learn than latin...;-) |
| 20:59:27 | Ginku | Suedwestdeutschland - die Stadt ist eigentlich nur von der BASF her bekannt- in der Naehe von Heidelberg |
| 20:59:56 | static_InT__ | merci...! |
| 21:00:03 | Ginku | danke und gute Nacht |
| 21:00:23 | dinah | no its not, ex orulas... ...spirs oru |
| 21:00:43 | static_InT__ | u tried to learn it already...???????? |
| 21:01:02 | dinah | i know "ich roll nitch totten" and thats about it |
| 21:01:30 | dinah | oh and "boeses junges fleisch" |
| 21:02:51 | static_InT__ | sorry, that's not exactely right... *lol :-) Should be (i think) "ich lach mich tot";-) u understand? the second one is correct |
| 21:03:42 | dinah | hmmm the liner notes say "ich roll nicht toten" |
| 21:04:32 | static_InT__ | that doesn't make sense... u maybe know what it means in english? |
| 21:04:41 | dinah | ist huebsch |
| 21:05:01 | dinah | well the lyrics say it mean "i make you dead" |
| 21:05:34 | static_InT__ | ah ok;-) well it's then "ich toete dich" |
| 21:05:54 | dinah | oh, ever heard of a band called wumpscut? |
| 21:06:15 | static_InT__ | no, they came from GB? |
| 21:06:22 | dinah | germany actualy |
| 21:06:34 | static_InT__ | uups... |
| 21:07:43 | dinah | laughs at his ignorence |
| 21:07:43 | dinah | :-) |
| 21:08:00 | static_InT__ | well, u can't know anything....;-) |
| 21:08:09 | dinah | i suppose not |
| 21:08:48 | static_InT__ | u once said u're a artist... you draw pictures? |
| 21:09:18 | dinah | yes |
| 21:09:41 | static_InT__ | u made the logo of u're team? |
| 21:09:46 | dinah | yes |
| 21:09:58 | static_InT__ | wow! very nice! |
| 21:10:07 | dinah | not my best work... |
| 21:10:24 | static_InT__ | but it's really good |
| 21:10:36 | static_InT__ | i can't draw at all |
| 21:11:06 | dinah | thanks for the compliment, and sure you can |
| 21:12:05 | static_InT__ | no, definitely not;-) |
| 21:12:20 | dinah | everyone can a little |
| 21:13:32 | static_InT__ | well, i don't know... u would propabely think i'm a 5year old boy when u saw a drawing from me;-) |
| 21:13:51 | dinah | some 5 year olds draw ver well |
| 21:14:20 | static_InT__ | uuups.... well, then 3years old:-) |
| 21:14:27 | dinah | same there |
| 21:15:07 | static_InT__ | ok... but not me then... |
| 21:15:32 | dinah | oh dont be so negative |
| 21:16:13 | static_InT__ | no, it'r true. but it doesn't matter too much. i like to take photos. u do, too? |
| 21:16:51 | dinah | no im not a photographer |
| 21:56:34 | Guardian | Yo Widget |
| 21:57:38 | ritchie_ | Yo |
| 21:57:42 | ritchie_ | Guardian |
| 21:57:47 | ritchie_ | got your server fixed? |
| 22:03:34 | dinah | help!?!? |
| 22:03:38 | captain_proton | ? |
| 22:03:53 | dinah | i get no sound no mater what i do!?! |
| 22:04:12 | captain_proton | any error messages on the console? |
| 22:04:20 | dinah | none |
| 22:04:33 | captain_proton | i mean the terminal you run it in |
| 22:04:39 | dinah | none |
| 22:04:47 | captain_proton | checked your mixer settings? |
| 22:04:56 | dinah | ummm my what? |
| 22:05:06 | captain_proton | mixer settings |
| 22:05:10 | captain_proton | volumes for various things |
| 22:05:16 | dinah | how? |
| 22:05:16 | captain_proton | there should be a program to set them |
| 22:05:21 | captain_proton | try 'aumix' |
| 22:05:40 | dinah | im there its a bit confusing... |
| 22:05:59 | captain_proton | the first one or two lines should be volume |
| 22:06:06 | captain_proton | make sure they're set at about 75% |
| 22:06:34 | dinah | right first two at 75% |
| 22:06:44 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:06:49 | captain_proton | is another program using your sound card |
| 22:06:49 | captain_proton | ? |
| 22:07:22 | dinah | that did it!!! :-) your the best i luv you :-) |
| 22:07:30 | dinah | gives you a hug |
| 22:07:55 | ritchie_ | proton - you know who that valentine's will be from next year... |
| 22:08:17 | captain_proton | heh |
| 22:08:32 | dinah | right right right, valentiens all around! ;) |
| 22:09:25 | ritchie_ | blimey |
| 22:09:31 | ritchie_ | at least ill know not to get excited ;-) |
| 22:09:54 | dinah | you bette get excited! |
| 22:10:17 | ritchie_ | not if i get 1 million valentinES from you |
| 22:10:23 | ritchie_ | ;-) |
| 22:10:27 | ritchie_ | neway |
| 22:10:41 | ritchie_ | england = 11:13 == sleep == fuck, school tomorrow, exams over |
| 22:10:42 | ritchie_ | arse |
| 22:11:09 | dinah | im still awake wus |
| 22:13:12 | captain_proton | heh |
| 22:29:31 | captain_proton | 'lo apathy |
| 22:33:07 | MrApathyCream | LO |
| 22:33:29 | captain_proton | easy on the shift key there |
| 22:34:40 | MrApathyCream | HEh |
| 22:34:46 | dinah | captain_proton: tell him about my neat doc! ;) |
| 22:35:00 | MrApathyCream | sORRY |
| 22:35:04 | captain_proton | tell him yourself |
| 22:35:14 | captain_proton | can hear MrApathyCream's shift key - ouch ouch |
| 22:35:29 | captain_proton | have mercy! |
| 22:36:03 | MrApathyCream | WHEN YOU GET TO BE MY AGE, EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHOUT: -> http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/MAC.jpg |
| 22:36:10 | captain_proton | not that again |
| 22:36:28 | captain_proton | although that is a neato hat |
| 22:36:39 | MrApathyCream | thanks, have a red one just like it too |
| 22:37:09 | MrApathyCream | BTW, they are my BZ-glasses |
| 22:37:54 | captain_proton | i see |
| 22:37:59 | captain_proton | although apparently you don't ;) |
| 22:38:15 | MrApathyCream | thus my usual score |
| 22:38:26 | captain_proton | it all makes sense now |
| 22:38:47 | MrApathyCream | I'll be able to smear you at bzflag once i get my monitor back from the shop... till then you have the edge |
| 22:39:09 | captain_proton | hah! |
| 22:39:37 | MrApathyCream | dang, if only i had some neat doc to look at. |
| 22:39:52 | dinah | but you could have one! ;) |
| 22:41:53 | iLLf8d | Apathy how old are you? |
| 22:42:01 | iLLf8d | I can't picture you as more then 75 |
| 22:42:02 | iLLf8d | jk |
| 22:42:03 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:43:27 | MrApathyCream | heh, i'm not 75!, |
| 22:43:45 | MrApathyCream | sheesh, better pick a better picture, i guess |
| 22:43:52 | MrApathyCream | maybe from the front. |
| 22:44:24 | iLLf8d | guesses you're |
| 22:44:25 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 22:44:41 | MrApathyCream | perhaps i should get a hipper hat |
| 22:44:50 | iLLf8d | uhm... |
| 22:44:53 | iLLf8d | 42 |
| 22:44:55 | captain_proton | hats don't get any hipper |
| 22:45:00 | iLLf8d | you got a picture? |
| 22:45:06 | iLLf8d | with all your clothes on! |
| 22:45:13 | iLLf8d | should've said that part first |
| 22:45:17 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: oh you're no fun |
| 22:45:48 | MrApathyCream | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/MAC.jpg |
| 22:46:12 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:46:22 | iLLf8d | my gf said you're a little hottie |
| 22:46:24 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:46:44 | captain_proton | see? everyone lubs MrApathyCream |
| 22:47:04 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 22:48:04 | MrApathyCream | iLLf8d: Here's Tim R, and his brother |
| 22:48:06 | MrApathyCream | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/Bill-Tim.jpg |
| 22:51:29 | MrApathyCream | doc? |
| 22:51:44 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:51:57 | iLLf8d | that really tim? |
| 22:52:03 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 22:52:16 | captain_proton | http://rikers.org/timr-christ.jpg <-- better photo of tim |
| 22:52:28 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 22:53:58 | iLLf8d | sheesh you'd think he could code faster then |
| 22:54:42 | MrApathyCream | he's so busy with other things, you see |
| 22:55:21 | MrApathyCream | my picture is real, tho |
| 22:59:05 | Chestal | 0 |
| 22:59:13 | MrApathyCream | hey chestal |
| 23:01:07 | MrApathyCream | except for the induvidual, who's this > http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/mystery.jpg |
| 23:01:59 | Chestal | oopsa :-) |
| 23:02:17 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:02:24 | captain_proton | good lookin' guy there |
| 23:02:54 | MrApathyCream | chick magnet |
| 23:02:58 | Chestal | oh my |
| 23:03:08 | Chestal | every tiem I update my debian, there are dozens of new packages |
| 23:03:21 | Chestal | but no ne transcode, grrr |
| 23:03:26 | Chestal | do I really have to compile it myself |
| 23:03:37 | captain_proton | yes |
| 23:04:23 | Chestal | maybe I shoudl check my sources.list |
| 23:04:30 | Chestal | there used to be regular updates |
| 23:04:39 | Chestal | but it's broken since 6 weeks or sao |
| 23:05:49 | captain_proton | broken? |
| 23:06:06 | Chestal | yes, I'm only usgn transcode to exchange audio of avis |
| 23:06:10 | Chestal | bypass for video |
| 23:06:22 | Chestal | the videos it writes now are broken |
| 23:06:28 | MrApathyCream | dang, i wish i could have this fun with windows |
| 23:07:20 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you know it |
| 23:08:42 | iLLf8d | lemme showya my pic |
| 23:08:50 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: to which: chick mag, or fun? |
| 23:08:58 | captain_proton | captain_proton: fun |
| 23:09:01 | captain_proton | err |
| 23:09:02 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: fun |
| 23:09:05 | iLLf8d | http://home.pacbell.net/l8tr/dragonballill.jpg |
| 23:09:09 | iLLf8d | thats me in the middle |
| 23:10:52 | MrApathyCream | heh, nice pants |
| 23:11:28 | iLLf8d | yeah I put on a little weight there was taking the summer off from working out and using my supersaian powers |
| 23:11:56 | iLLf8d | hey whats it take to get bzflag to build in freebsd? |
| 23:13:10 | iLLf8d | I assume that the code itself should work fine right?, just updating where all the libs live etc.. ? |
| 23:13:30 | captain_proton | -should- work |
| 23:13:53 | MrApathyCream | hmm, MrApathyCream donnes his sleuthing hat, iLLf8d = GoodMajinBoo? |
| 23:15:16 | iLLf8d | cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 23:15:17 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 23:15:30 | captain_proton | it doesn't like you |
| 23:15:48 | iLLf8d | heh sometimes |
| 23:16:00 | iLLf8d | it varies from year to year |
| 23:16:01 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 23:17:09 | iLLf8d | Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:2401/cvsroot/bzflag |
| 23:17:09 | iLLf8d | CVS password: |
| 23:17:09 | iLLf8d | cvs login: failed to open /home/neener/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory |
| 23:17:09 | iLLf8d | cvs [login aborted]: fatal error: exitin |
| 23:17:13 | iLLf8d | hmm anyone have any ideas here? |
| 23:17:27 | iLLf8d | ahh i'll just transfer it over from my other machine |
| 23:21:54 | captain_proton | sacrifice a goat |
| 23:22:14 | MrApathyCream | (ask tim for one) |
| 23:26:48 | pnm | eventide |
| 23:27:52 | MrApathyCream | Are we kicking this e5 out the door soon, anyone? |
| 23:28:10 | dinah | i like e5... |
| 23:28:34 | MrApathyCream | so are you fess up about the doc or what, dinah? |
| 23:29:03 | dinah | i wrote a doc of the commands for observers with that roaming thing... you know? |
| 23:29:13 | MrApathyCream | nifty |
| 23:29:23 | pnm | commands? |
| 23:29:25 | MrApathyCream | just found f9, f10 the other day |
| 23:29:29 | MrApathyCream | by accident |
| 23:29:40 | dinah | mwould you like it? :) |
| 23:29:43 | pnm | oh right, commands as in keys |
| 23:29:51 | iLLf8d | lo all what the command for generating a patch again? |
| 23:30:10 | iLLf8d | and its syntax |
| 23:30:11 | captain_proton | f11!!!! |
| 23:30:20 | MrApathyCream | diff -u -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 23:33:18 | iLLf8d | I think i'm gonna try to make a freebsd port of the latest |
| 23:33:31 | MrApathyCream | what's f11 do? |
| 23:34:21 | MrApathyCream | dinah: sure |
| 23:35:10 | iLLf8d | dinah: I wouldn't mind a copy either in case they're slow to postem |
| 23:44:02 | dinah | um ill need some email adresses |
| 23:44:13 | MrApathyCream | can't you dcc? |
| 23:44:24 | dinah | whats dcc? |
| 23:45:02 | MrApathyCream | right click my name, and choose Direct client to client-send file |
| 23:45:30 | dinah | i did it :) |
| 23:45:39 | MrApathyCream | got it |
| 23:45:51 | dinah | let me know if its any good will you? |
| 23:47:26 | MrApathyCream | good |
| 23:47:41 | dinah | you really think so :) |
| 23:47:55 | MrApathyCream | you can drive through builings. (need d :P) |
| 23:48:11 | MrApathyCream | you can go beyond the walls of the arrena. (one 'r' :P) |
| 23:48:38 | dinah | so i cant spell, i know that... :-( |
| 23:48:47 | MrApathyCream | , will not send a private message. you must use "n" or "m" then arrow keys to change person. |
| 23:48:50 | MrApathyCream | is this true? |
| 23:48:54 | dinah | yes |
| 23:49:00 | MrApathyCream | hmm, seems odd |
| 23:49:07 | Chestal | ehm |
| 23:49:11 | Chestal | , is nemesis |
| 23:49:14 | Chestal | . s priv msg |
| 23:49:36 | dinah | ooops hes right, sorry |
| 23:49:46 | Chestal | however, if you press n or m, then -> or <-, it switches to priv msg, but that's an artifact |
| 23:50:01 | Chestal | you're not encouraged to do this ._) |
| 23:50:07 | dinah | give me a break im new to computers |
| 23:50:36 | MrApathyCream | priv message works |
| 23:50:42 | MrApathyCream | nemesis doesn't |
| 23:50:49 | MrApathyCream | <which makes sense> |
| 23:51:02 | dinah | oh im such a failure... ;-( |
| 23:51:07 | MrApathyCream | heh... |
| 23:51:12 | MrApathyCream | It's very good |
| 23:51:20 | dinah | dinah is woe, woe is dinah |
| 23:51:43 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: CLIENTQUERY in e5 shows |
| 23:51:49 | MrApathyCream | Version 1.7e5 |
| 23:51:54 | MrApathyCream | for yourself as opposed to |
| 23:52:02 | MrApathyCream | MrApathyCream: Version 1.7e5 |
| 23:52:06 | MrApathyCream | kind of irritating |
| 23:52:26 | Chestal | well, the msg is sent to yourself |
| 23:52:30 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 23:52:52 | Chestal | and msgs sent to oneself in 1.7 are displayed without any name |
| 23:53:02 | MrApathyCream | what other messages do you send to yourself |
| 23:53:03 | Chestal | it's a bit strange |
| 23:53:12 | Chestal | in 1.8 we have special ids for server etc. |
| 23:53:15 | MrApathyCream | (other than direct messages-> which would be silly) |
| 23:53:20 | Chestal | all msgs that are sent by the server |
| 23:53:26 | Chestal | welcome mesasge, /lagstats etc. |
| 23:53:39 | Chestal | because there is no server id |
| 23:53:56 | Chestal | it's silly, but IMHO ok for 1.7 |
| 23:54:23 | Chestal | CLIENTQUERY is a big hack anyway |
| 23:54:36 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 23:54:58 | Chestal | if I have some time tomorrow, I will first start to loo at that evil CPU hogging bug |
| 23:55:14 | Chestal | then we'll still have to agree on a good radar compromise |
| 23:55:24 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 23:55:29 | Chestal | after that, e5 should be ready for prime time |
| 23:55:35 | MrApathyCream | cpu hogging? |
| 23:55:39 | Chestal | yes |
| 23:55:42 | Chestal | it's srange |
| 23:55:54 | Chestal | first time I noticed was yesterday |
| 23:55:59 | MrApathyCream | client? |
| 23:56:04 | Chestal | soemtimes it consumes 100% CPU |
| 23:56:06 | Chestal | bzfs |
| 23:56:09 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 23:56:24 | Chestal | I actualyl found a bug and fixed it, but this fixed only a related problem and seems to have itnroduced another bug |
| 23:56:32 | Chestal | well, I have to go to bed now, cu |
| 23:56:36 | MrApathyCream | cu |
| 23:56:47 | dinah | hes right! its using 100 |
| 23:57:02 | dinah | oh my my my! this is not good |
